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this is going to be a lot more. Now, I
want to talk about Trump, who is set to be
sentenced tomorrow in the Manhattan District Attorney. They call it
the hush money case. But let me be very clear
about something. Since the conviction by the twelve independent jurors,
Trump's legal team has been filing appeal after appeal after appeal,
and they've already filed two appeals this week alone to
stop the sentencing from happening. Now this morning, it's almost says,
almost like breaking news for you. This morning, the New
York Appeal at Court deny Trump's bid to halt the sentencing.
So what do they do? They go to the Supreme Court.
And now we're waiting for the Supreme Court of the
United States to rule, and I'm kind of trying to
figure out what is the motion the writ of Sir
Shirari to the Supreme Court, even about you're talking about
a state criminal matter. The Supreme Court is supposed to
rule on constitutional issues. So is the argument being laid
out that a former president or a president has immunity
for anything and everything that they've done, whether they are
or they're not president. I'm not one hundred percent sure,
but I'll tell you what I am sure about. There
has been a release of information that Trump and Justice Alito,
Supreme Court Justice Alito, we're speaking before he filed his appeal,
before he filed the writ of Sir Shirari to the
Supreme Court. Trump is on the phone with Justice Alito.
Now we already know that Alito has some issues along
with Clarence Thomas, about some gifts and about some improper
Do you not see at least an appearance of an
impropriety that a defendant before who has a matter before
the Supreme Court is actually on the phone with a
Supreme a Supreme Court justice. I mean, that just doesn't
smell wrong to you. And I don't care if they're
talking about Mara Lago Berger's I don't care if they're
talking about golf. It makes no difference. There's an appearance
of an impropriety. How many of us would have an
opportunity one to even get Justice Alito's phone number, least
of all to get him to pick up the phone. Right,
And I want to remind everybody of Judge Juan Mashan's
ruling because it should be offensive to each and every
one of us. Let me show you what I'm talking
about here, Judge Juan Machon ruled post it. This is
the people of the State of New York versus Donald Trump.
It is the decision and the order of one m mahon,
Justice of the Court. All right, And here's the part
that I want to bring to your attention. While this
court is a matter of law, must not make any
determination on sentencing prior to giving the parties and defending
an opportunity to be heard. It seems proper at this
juncture to make known the Court's inclination to not impose
any sentence of incarceration, a sentence authorized by the conviction,
but one the people concede they no longer view as
a practical recommendation as such, in balancing the aforementioned considerations
in conjunction with the underlying concerns of the presidential immunity
doctrine in a sentence of an unconditional discharge. Let me
say that one more time, and it's why we have
it highlighted in yellow. An unconditional discharge appears to be
the most viable solution to ensure finality and allow defendant
to pursue his appellate options. Further, to assuage the defendant's
concerns regarding the mental and physical demands during this transition period,
as well as the consideration set forth in the two
thousand OLC Memorandum, this court will permit defendant to exercise
his right to appear virtually for this proceeding if he
so chooses. Now, I need to be very clear about something.
In my entire legal career, not only I never really
practice criminal law, but in my entire legal career, I
have never even heard of an unconditional dismissal being given
to a defendant after a trial. Never heard it? Now?
Is there a reason I've never heard it?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Because how many of us are presidents of former presidents?
And the answer is, well, in this case, it's just one. Now,
this is this needs to be discussed for a quick second,
and unconditional dismissal as stated by Judge Machan means no incarceration.
It also means no probation. It means virtually nothing, no accountability.
And I say this, and I say it's important because
as someone who is subpoenaed to testify in that case
and classify as the key witness in that case, had
I known, had I known that Trump would never be
held accountable, I never would have accepted the subpoena. I
don't care if they if they served me with a
subpoena or not. I never would have taken the stand,
absolutely not for what reason, the mental, the physical, the emotional,
the financial damage of taking the stand against my former boss,
placing me right there for another forty eight hours on
the stand to be shredded or lauded, depending upon which
side of the aisle you were sitting on. I never
would have taken the stand because it's just not worth it.
If somebody is convicted of a crime and there's no accountability,
why convictim of a crime in the first place. It's
something that I say that a lot of people get
angry about. Imagine if driving down Fifth Avenue in Manhattan,
you go in one hundred miles an hour and the
most that ends up happening is the officer that pulls
you over tells you speed limits twenty five sir, please
just do twenty five miles an hour. And so after
he lets you go, no taket, no nothing, you speed
the hell right off again, doing another one hundred miles
an hour. No accountability, really, no accountability. As far as
I'm concerned, You're wasting your time. This is all mere theater.
This is a political spectacle. And I want to show
you now a clip of Caitlyn Collins discussing the conflict
of interest.
Speaker 3: Play the clip about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is almost unheard of wolf for an incoming president.
But what we are learning, and what CNN has just confirmed,
is that President electrom did speak with Supreme Court Justice
Samuel Alito in recent days, and we are getting a
statement from Justice Alito himself saying that it was at
the recommendation of a former law clerk of his who
wanted him to call the President elect on his behalf
and recommend him for a job in the Trump administration
in his government. Now, it is not unusual for Supreme
Court justices to call and make recommendations on behalf of
their former clerks. That's why half of them go and
clerk in the first place. So it can help them,
of course with job placement. But what makes all of
this so unusual, Wolf, is of course, that call came
one day before Trump's legal team filed that emergency appeal
to the US Supreme Court to try to delay his
sentencing that is scheduled in the New York Manhattan hush
money case this Friday. So far, his appeals there have
been unsuccessful. Wolf, And I should note that in a
statement from Aledo, he said that they did not discuss
that emergency application that Trump's attorneys filed today, and he said,
I was not even aware at the time that such
an application would be filed. I should note, Wolf, we
did have an idea, generally that Trump's team was going
to try to file something to the Supreme Court if
they did not succeed with New York courts. But Alito
is saying right now that that was not discussed, despite
the fact that they did have this unusual phone call
this Wolf this week.
Speaker 1: Wolf, all right, which goes right back to what I
was saying before. I don't know whether they did or
they didn't, and I find it bullshit. I mean I
call bullshit on the fact that he didn't know that
they were going to file a writ of sircirari. I
guarantee you his legal team told them what they intend
to do. Immediately go for an immediate decision by the
Appellate Court here in New York, and if that doesn't
go to their favor, immediately file a rid of sircirari.
So in that way they can then make a motion
within which to have the the sentencing portion again delayed,
and so on and so forth. All right, there's an
appearance of an impropriety, and that in and of itself
is enough. Now I want to show you, in finality,
a clip of wolf Blitzer speaking to Representative Tony Gonzalez
about that phone call. Play the clip.
Speaker 3: You think it's appropriate for Trump to be speaking with
someone who will actually be deciding a case against him.
Speaker 2: I do think it's appropriate.
Speaker 5: He is the incoming president, he's a former president, and
he's very soon he's going to be the current president.
So I think to me, it's a positive thing that
President Trump is meeting with the Senate, that he's meeting
with the House, that he's willing to have conversations with
the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: To me, that's what I look for in a president.
I want to have more of.
Speaker 5: That dialogue and the more openness and the more transparency
that we can have, I think the better it is
for all Americans. I think that's one of the issues
that a lot of people were frustrated with the Biden administration.
Speaker 2: Just transparency. Let's just talk about these things.
Speaker 5: So, I think it's very positive that President Trump and
his team are having conversations across the board throughout all
aspects of government.
Speaker 3: Well, do you think Justice Aledo needs to recuse himself
from this Trump case right now?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think so.
Speaker 5: I mean, who knows what the conversation they had, but
I doubt it was on something like that. There's so
many things, so many important issues that are that are
that need to be discussed, and I'm certain you know,
there's a lot of that.
Speaker 2: So I don't I wouldn't. I wouldn't necessarily say that.
Speaker 3: Republican Encoungress Men, Tony Gonzalez, thanks so much for taking
a few moments in joining us. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Boy. It's incredible, the ass kissing and the bullshitting by
both sides, right, I mean, the bottom line. Look, let
me be clear about this. The bottom line here, there
is an appearance of an impropriety and I think we
all will agree on that. All right, This Tony Gonzalez
just an asshole. Right, He's gonna say whatever. Oh, there's
absolutely no reason I want to see my president speaking
to the Supreme Court. I agree, except if you're president.
Our president has a case pending before the Supreme Court.
It's just fucking wrong. And the fact that Tony Gonzalez
doesn't see it and he's trying to play this politics
game where he's ass kissing the incoming president, it's pathetic,
it's pure. It's just pathetic. It's stupid, and it makes
him look like the asshole that he is. And as always,
thanks for listening. Hey everyone, First of all, thanks for
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