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Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Michael Cohen Show on our continued

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this is going to be a lot more. Now, I

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want to talk about Trump, who is set to be

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sentenced tomorrow in the Manhattan District Attorney. They call it

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the hush money case. But let me be very clear

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about something. Since the conviction by the twelve independent jurors,

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Trump's legal team has been filing appeal after appeal after appeal,

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and they've already filed two appeals this week alone to

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stop the sentencing from happening. Now this morning, it's almost says,

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almost like breaking news for you. This morning, the New

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York Appeal at Court deny Trump's bid to halt the sentencing.

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So what do they do? They go to the Supreme Court.

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And now we're waiting for the Supreme Court of the

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United States to rule, and I'm kind of trying to

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figure out what is the motion the writ of Sir

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Shirari to the Supreme Court, even about you're talking about

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a state criminal matter. The Supreme Court is supposed to

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rule on constitutional issues. So is the argument being laid

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out that a former president or a president has immunity

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for anything and everything that they've done, whether they are

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or they're not president. I'm not one hundred percent sure,

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but I'll tell you what I am sure about. There

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has been a release of information that Trump and Justice Alito,

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Supreme Court Justice Alito, we're speaking before he filed his appeal,

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before he filed the writ of Sir Shirari to the

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Supreme Court. Trump is on the phone with Justice Alito.

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Now we already know that Alito has some issues along

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with Clarence Thomas, about some gifts and about some improper

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Do you not see at least an appearance of an

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impropriety that a defendant before who has a matter before

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the Supreme Court is actually on the phone with a

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Supreme a Supreme Court justice. I mean, that just doesn't

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smell wrong to you. And I don't care if they're

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talking about Mara Lago Berger's I don't care if they're

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talking about golf. It makes no difference. There's an appearance

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of an impropriety. How many of us would have an

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opportunity one to even get Justice Alito's phone number, least

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of all to get him to pick up the phone. Right,

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And I want to remind everybody of Judge Juan Mashan's

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ruling because it should be offensive to each and every

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one of us. Let me show you what I'm talking

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about here, Judge Juan Machon ruled post it. This is

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the people of the State of New York versus Donald Trump.

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It is the decision and the order of one m mahon,

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Justice of the Court. All right, And here's the part

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that I want to bring to your attention. While this

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court is a matter of law, must not make any

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determination on sentencing prior to giving the parties and defending

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an opportunity to be heard. It seems proper at this

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juncture to make known the Court's inclination to not impose

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any sentence of incarceration, a sentence authorized by the conviction,

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but one the people concede they no longer view as

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a practical recommendation as such, in balancing the aforementioned considerations

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in conjunction with the underlying concerns of the presidential immunity

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doctrine in a sentence of an unconditional discharge. Let me

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say that one more time, and it's why we have

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it highlighted in yellow. An unconditional discharge appears to be

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the most viable solution to ensure finality and allow defendant

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to pursue his appellate options. Further, to assuage the defendant's

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concerns regarding the mental and physical demands during this transition period,

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as well as the consideration set forth in the two

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thousand OLC Memorandum, this court will permit defendant to exercise

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his right to appear virtually for this proceeding if he

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so chooses. Now, I need to be very clear about something.

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In my entire legal career, not only I never really

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practice criminal law, but in my entire legal career, I

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have never even heard of an unconditional dismissal being given

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to a defendant after a trial. Never heard it? Now?

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Is there a reason I've never heard it?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Because how many of us are presidents of former presidents?

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And the answer is, well, in this case, it's just one. Now,

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this is this needs to be discussed for a quick second,

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and unconditional dismissal as stated by Judge Machan means no incarceration.

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It also means no probation. It means virtually nothing, no accountability.

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And I say this, and I say it's important because

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as someone who is subpoenaed to testify in that case

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and classify as the key witness in that case, had

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I known, had I known that Trump would never be

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held accountable, I never would have accepted the subpoena. I

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don't care if they if they served me with a

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subpoena or not. I never would have taken the stand,

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absolutely not for what reason, the mental, the physical, the emotional,

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the financial damage of taking the stand against my former boss,

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placing me right there for another forty eight hours on

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the stand to be shredded or lauded, depending upon which

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side of the aisle you were sitting on. I never

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would have taken the stand because it's just not worth it.

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If somebody is convicted of a crime and there's no accountability,

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why convictim of a crime in the first place. It's

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something that I say that a lot of people get

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angry about. Imagine if driving down Fifth Avenue in Manhattan,

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you go in one hundred miles an hour and the

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most that ends up happening is the officer that pulls

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you over tells you speed limits twenty five sir, please

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just do twenty five miles an hour. And so after

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he lets you go, no taket, no nothing, you speed

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the hell right off again, doing another one hundred miles

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an hour. No accountability, really, no accountability. As far as

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I'm concerned, You're wasting your time. This is all mere theater.

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This is a political spectacle. And I want to show

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you now a clip of Caitlyn Collins discussing the conflict

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of interest.

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Speaker 3: Play the clip about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is almost unheard of wolf for an incoming president.

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But what we are learning, and what CNN has just confirmed,

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is that President electrom did speak with Supreme Court Justice

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Samuel Alito in recent days, and we are getting a

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statement from Justice Alito himself saying that it was at

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the recommendation of a former law clerk of his who

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wanted him to call the President elect on his behalf

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and recommend him for a job in the Trump administration

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in his government. Now, it is not unusual for Supreme

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Court justices to call and make recommendations on behalf of

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their former clerks. That's why half of them go and

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clerk in the first place. So it can help them,

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of course with job placement. But what makes all of

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this so unusual, Wolf, is of course, that call came

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one day before Trump's legal team filed that emergency appeal

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to the US Supreme Court to try to delay his

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sentencing that is scheduled in the New York Manhattan hush

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money case this Friday. So far, his appeals there have

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been unsuccessful. Wolf, And I should note that in a

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statement from Aledo, he said that they did not discuss

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that emergency application that Trump's attorneys filed today, and he said,

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I was not even aware at the time that such

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an application would be filed. I should note, Wolf, we

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did have an idea, generally that Trump's team was going

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to try to file something to the Supreme Court if

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they did not succeed with New York courts. But Alito

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is saying right now that that was not discussed, despite

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the fact that they did have this unusual phone call

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this Wolf this week.

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Speaker 1: Wolf, all right, which goes right back to what I

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was saying before. I don't know whether they did or

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they didn't, and I find it bullshit. I mean I

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call bullshit on the fact that he didn't know that

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they were going to file a writ of sircirari. I

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guarantee you his legal team told them what they intend

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to do. Immediately go for an immediate decision by the

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Appellate Court here in New York, and if that doesn't

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go to their favor, immediately file a rid of sircirari.

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So in that way they can then make a motion

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within which to have the the sentencing portion again delayed,

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and so on and so forth. All right, there's an

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appearance of an impropriety, and that in and of itself

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is enough. Now I want to show you, in finality,

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a clip of wolf Blitzer speaking to Representative Tony Gonzalez

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about that phone call. Play the clip.

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Speaker 3: You think it's appropriate for Trump to be speaking with

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someone who will actually be deciding a case against him.

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Speaker 2: I do think it's appropriate.

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Speaker 5: He is the incoming president, he's a former president, and

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he's very soon he's going to be the current president.

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So I think to me, it's a positive thing that

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President Trump is meeting with the Senate, that he's meeting

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with the House, that he's willing to have conversations with

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the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: To me, that's what I look for in a president.

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I want to have more of.

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Speaker 5: That dialogue and the more openness and the more transparency

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that we can have, I think the better it is

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for all Americans. I think that's one of the issues

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that a lot of people were frustrated with the Biden administration.

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Speaker 2: Just transparency. Let's just talk about these things.

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Speaker 5: So, I think it's very positive that President Trump and

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his team are having conversations across the board throughout all

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aspects of government.

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Speaker 3: Well, do you think Justice Aledo needs to recuse himself

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from this Trump case right now?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: I mean, who knows what the conversation they had, but

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I doubt it was on something like that. There's so

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many things, so many important issues that are that are

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that need to be discussed, and I'm certain you know,

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there's a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: So I don't I wouldn't. I wouldn't necessarily say that.

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Speaker 3: Republican Encoungress Men, Tony Gonzalez, thanks so much for taking

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a few moments in joining us. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Boy. It's incredible, the ass kissing and the bullshitting by

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both sides, right, I mean, the bottom line. Look, let

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me be clear about this. The bottom line here, there

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is an appearance of an impropriety and I think we

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all will agree on that. All right, This Tony Gonzalez

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just an asshole. Right, He's gonna say whatever. Oh, there's

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absolutely no reason I want to see my president speaking

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to the Supreme Court. I agree, except if you're president.

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Our president has a case pending before the Supreme Court.

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It's just fucking wrong. And the fact that Tony Gonzalez

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doesn't see it and he's trying to play this politics

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game where he's ass kissing the incoming president, it's pathetic,

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it's pure. It's just pathetic. It's stupid, and it makes

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him look like the asshole that he is. And as always,

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