Speaker 1: Oh bed of that are hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and my name is
Speaker 2: Jonathan and today we have one of our favorite guests
Speaker 2: of all time. Long awaited. It's been a long time
Speaker 2: since we talked to you. Welcome to the show, Crow
Speaker 2: Triple seven.
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2: Thanks, very excited about this conversation. The last time we
Speaker 2: had you on, I believe was probably around two years
Speaker 2: ago at least, and that's whenever we were talking about
Speaker 2: your shoot the Moon documentary. And man, there is something
Speaker 2: that's going on up in the skies that is just
Speaker 2: not being talked about for some reason. I mean, what
Speaker 2: you were able to capture with your camera and your telescope.
Speaker 2: How do you explain what is going on with the
Speaker 2: moon and what is going on with the sun? People
Speaker 2: probably look at you like you're crazy all the time, right,
Speaker 2: but You're like, look here it is, here's the proof.
Speaker 3: I guess I don't talk about it a lot unless
Speaker 3: I'm asked, but I do have the footage and it
Speaker 3: did a lot of it got censored back in the day,
Speaker 3: maybe more from my mouth than the actual footage, so
Speaker 3: I had to turn it down.
Speaker 4: That way.
Speaker 3: But the truth is we've all been misguided. We have
Speaker 3: places like space agencies that like to try to ensure
Speaker 3: we know nothing about what's above our head. And to
Speaker 3: make it worse, a lot of us never look up,
Speaker 3: and people who live in cities, even if they do
Speaker 3: look up, there's so much light in the way they
Speaker 3: might not get to see much. But this changed a
Speaker 3: little bit recently with all those drones in the sky
Speaker 3: that they were trying to get us to believe were
Speaker 3: little green men from some magical place out there that
Speaker 3: they invent. But people have been looking up. As a
Speaker 3: matter of fact, it is so ubiquitous at night to
Speaker 3: see lights traveling in the sky. I don't think many
Speaker 3: people give it much mind. Back when I was capturing
Speaker 3: the footage, you know, decade and a half ago, to
Speaker 3: see that many things in the sky would have been astonishing.
Speaker 3: I was using the moon to back light things. Now
Speaker 3: many of the things are just lit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on that too.
Speaker 5: They have done the slow rollout, if you will, legitimately
Speaker 5: in the early two thousands, even in the twenty eighteens,
Speaker 5: to see this many things moving at night would have
Speaker 5: seemed crazy.
Speaker 4: Now, oh, that's just starlink. Oh that's just this.
Speaker 5: Oh that's some kid a couple of miles away playing
Speaker 5: with his drone. And it's they've gotten us so used
Speaker 5: to seeing anomalous things in the sky that your average
Speaker 5: person walking the street is not even going to give
Speaker 5: it a second thought.
Speaker 4: With that being said, and.
Speaker 5: We're talking about the you know, the drones over New
Speaker 5: Jersey that they said were orbs, and they said it
Speaker 5: was this, They said it was Chinese drones, they said
Speaker 5: it was all the crazy speculations on this, and you,
Speaker 5: being somebody who pays particular attention to the sky, I
Speaker 5: am curious what your take is on this Atlas object
Speaker 5: that is hurling in our direction.
Speaker 3: It's poppycock, really, the things that they're talking about, Well,
Speaker 3: first of all, let me back up, because I don't
Speaker 3: I do not participate in the echo chamber. Our minds
Speaker 3: helped shape this reality and all the people glued to
Speaker 3: news or helping manifest this nonsense, which is part of
Speaker 3: the reason they do it. If I can get a
Speaker 3: few hundred million minds to look at this magical thing
Speaker 3: coming from God knows where with aliens aboard, outcomes are
Speaker 3: going to start to manifest because of all those minds.
Speaker 3: But to get back to the point, back in the day,
Speaker 3: when I first started using a telescope, I could look
Speaker 3: at an image of basically any comet back through the
Speaker 3: time we've had cameras an idea by look, those comets
Speaker 3: were almost always white. Occasionally, in the more modern era
Speaker 3: you might catch a shade of yellow, maybe a shade
Speaker 3: of blue, but that was the majority of it. Sometime
Speaker 3: in the early two thousands, they all turn green, the
Speaker 3: so called comets. And the reason I'm mentioning this is
Speaker 3: because someone put an image of this magical thing they're
Speaker 3: trying to convince everyone is aliens with malicious intent. By
Speaker 3: the way, it's green. It looks like all these comets
Speaker 3: that are now green. But when you start hearing things like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's gonna show up and drop probes based on what
Speaker 3: you know, I'll tell you what it's based on. You
Speaker 3: got a sci fi writer on staff. And I'm not
Speaker 3: even being facetious here. If you see a light in
Speaker 3: the sky, you got damn precious little more than I
Speaker 3: do with a good scope. You might have better tools,
Speaker 3: you might have a better scope, but if you're gonna
Speaker 3: try to tell me it's got aliens in it. It's
Speaker 3: gonna you're just you're perpetuating fear porn, right, all the
Speaker 3: millions of minds that glom onto that are gonna help
Speaker 3: start manifesting something.
Speaker 5: So you're of the belief that this is more of
Speaker 5: a natural meteor common asteroid type of thing, not that
Speaker 5: it's some sort of alien mothership or are you believe
Speaker 5: do you believe the Atlas, the entire object in space
Speaker 5: is completely not even real?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't even accept that it's real until I
Speaker 3: put my tools on it.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: The problem now is we have zero ability to determine
Speaker 3: what's real and what's not on video. We passed that Marker.
Speaker 3: I used to have a personal law that I followed
Speaker 3: back in the day when the alien thing was popping
Speaker 3: off again and it was getting ridiculous. I came up
Speaker 3: with a personal law as a way to think about
Speaker 3: things because I was tired of potato camera footage and
Speaker 3: all these other things getting passed off. And it went
Speaker 3: basically like this, if something can be filmed in HD,
Speaker 3: it will be filmed in HD. And the problem with
Speaker 3: that rule now is we've crossed the threshold of being
Speaker 3: able to determine visually whether video is real because of
Speaker 3: AI and other things. So unless you know who shot
Speaker 3: it or you shot it, and it is beyond doubt
Speaker 3: that it has not been messed with, it's unusable. It
Speaker 3: is not evidence of anything. And so even though someone
Speaker 3: who supposedly had out of private scope provided the image
Speaker 3: that I saw, I don't know who that is. I
Speaker 3: don't know when it was shot. I don't know if
Speaker 3: he's an AI fan, I don't know anything. It's evidence
Speaker 3: of nothing for me. But it's green. And along with
Speaker 3: all the magical comments that turned green at some point,
Speaker 3: I don't even think there's such thing as a white
Speaker 3: comet anymore.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're absolutely right, especially with like testing the source.
Speaker 5: I mean, what didn't recently as farr As, like the
Speaker 5: whole Epstein thing goes, there's a minute of missing film
Speaker 5: from all of this. Pam Bondi went on and said,
Speaker 5: for some reason, there's a missing minute. They just found that,
Speaker 5: like four days ago. They found the missing minute. So
Speaker 5: all over they were saying was also a lie, which
Speaker 5: we already knew, but now it's been proven beyond a
Speaker 5: shallow of doubt. So even if you know that it
Speaker 5: is a real camera and you know, the source that
Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily make it a credible source.
Speaker 4: So to your point, I'm with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Well, as a rule of thumb, for people that are
Speaker 3: still tied up in that nonsense, they don't eat their own.
Speaker 3: Everything you've been told is nonsense. Everything you're going to
Speaker 3: be told as nonsense, And if they maintain their will,
Speaker 3: you will never see a shred of anything that matters, period.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like mouse.
Speaker 3: They're all involved, and all the agencies that are involved,
Speaker 3: and even the people that are good people have been
Speaker 3: blackmailed or threatened or bought or whatever it may be.
Speaker 3: It is been institutionalized this thing that everyone's concerned with
Speaker 3: that deals with the most helpless among us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people are very hopped up on
Speaker 2: hopium nowadays, thinking that there's white hats involved in QAnon
Speaker 2: and all this stuff. And I'm like, when has the
Speaker 2: government really in at least in our lifetime, And like,
Speaker 2: in my lifetime, the government has never been like pro humanity,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, It's never been pro citizens
Speaker 2: of the country. And it's like people still have hope
Speaker 2: in that and I just look at them almost like man,
Speaker 2: I don't want to tell you that Santa Claus isn't real,
Speaker 2: you know, like I don't want to say that, because
Speaker 2: we've been covering this stuff for over five years now,
Speaker 2: and time after time after time, the government has done
Speaker 2: what they've done, but all of a sudden they're turning
Speaker 2: a new page and they're going to be the good guys.
Speaker 2: I just don't buy it.
Speaker 3: You know, people that do what you do, that do
Speaker 3: what I do, or we talk to a lot of people,
Speaker 3: well compared to others, we don't talk to a lot
Speaker 3: of people, but we talk to a number of people.
Speaker 3: And it's always been the same problem. How do we
Speaker 3: talk about a thing that for the majority is going
Speaker 3: to be absolutely unacceptable, if not unbelievable and impossible. How
Speaker 3: do we string the proper words together to get someone
Speaker 3: to consider it or to have that opportunity, Because if
Speaker 3: you say the wrong words this is so unreal the
Speaker 3: things that are true, you could set someone back ten
Speaker 3: years that walks away from listening to you because you
Speaker 3: said the wrong words. But we are through the doorway now.
Speaker 3: The time for coddling is behind us. We're going to
Speaker 3: have seven or eight years here that are a hell
Speaker 3: of a run. It is my view that around twenty
Speaker 3: thirty or twenty thirty two, we are going to loop
Speaker 3: out of this and these jokers are going to start
Speaker 3: losing what they tried to build. That's my point of view.
Speaker 3: But to get back to it, there is always the
Speaker 3: possibility that some truly bad things could happen and we
Speaker 3: could have to deal with them for a long time,
Speaker 3: And so the people have to wake up to the
Speaker 3: fact that we are institutionalized. The majority of us. Just
Speaker 3: like Red and Shawshank rightly said, this person can no
Speaker 3: longer function outside the cage. Our cage is a mental cage,
Speaker 3: and the problems that we face is the majority of us.
Speaker 3: We're all institutionalized, but the majority of us are so
Speaker 3: institutionalized that we get pissed off. If someone tells us
Speaker 3: the world is flat, Well, why does that upset you?
Speaker 3: That's someone's point of view. If you don't think they're correct,
Speaker 3: why is it upsetting you? And that goes to the
Speaker 3: core of a being, because somewhere in there they feel
Speaker 3: the need to defend something, don't they when they get
Speaker 3: upset about that. But flat Earth is like the tip
Speaker 3: of the iceberg of things to be worried about. There
Speaker 3: is no entertainment of size, no famous person of size,
Speaker 3: no information source of size online that isn't playing the
Speaker 3: game by the rules that are meant to keep us
Speaker 3: in the mental cage. That is a fact. If people
Speaker 3: knew who person out the cult of personality members that
Speaker 3: we like to worship as famous who they really were,
Speaker 3: they might not be able to deal because they think
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan's a good guy and they think Donald Trump's
Speaker 3: just a president. Well, I got news for you. Those
Speaker 3: things are not true. They are not true. If you're
Speaker 3: talking to a million people, you're playing in the pen,
Speaker 3: and if you don't play in the pen, you're not
Speaker 3: talking to a million people. Yeah, at this point, it
Speaker 3: is that simple. We all play on a highway called
Speaker 3: the Internet. Who owns the on ramps? Do you do
Speaker 3: you have any control of the highway you are traveling.
Speaker 3: I can point out places like bitshoot or other places
Speaker 3: that claimed we are not into censorship, and they did
Speaker 3: things that made that seem like it was probably true.
Speaker 3: What happened, Well, someone came up and said, hey, man,
Speaker 3: how do you like your Internet connectivity? You do what
Speaker 3: we say or you're not getting on the on ramp.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there seems to be.
Speaker 3: So this world that we are in, this digital world,
Speaker 3: came to be not to help us, not to inform us.
Speaker 3: It came to be in the way we are looking
Speaker 3: at it, to control us, and not just control us,
Speaker 3: but control every living human being in real time, to
Speaker 3: include tracking heartbeat and everything else. The Internet of bodies
Speaker 3: will bring them. Myfrigerator is in my kitchen right now,
Speaker 3: trying to get online.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't like how our appliances are all somehow smart devices.
Speaker 5: Why is my toaster Bluetooth accessible control? What is the
Speaker 5: actual practical use for that? Why am I getting text
Speaker 5: messages while I'm out at dinner that my vacuum cleaner
Speaker 5: needs to be emptied or can't find it's charging fort
Speaker 5: Why is my vacuum cleaner able to text me that
Speaker 5: bothers me?
Speaker 3: Because AI is coming. If data is king, there was
Speaker 3: a time when money was king. That boat has sailed
Speaker 3: for decades now. In nineteen ninety nine or two thousand,
Speaker 3: the sun Right Microsystems CEO stood up or the CEO
Speaker 3: whoever he was, and said, guess what, folks, you got
Speaker 3: all these cool new tools like email, and they're all free.
Speaker 3: To you, but there's no more privacy, and no one
Speaker 3: believed him in the year two thousand and he was
Speaker 3: telling the truth. So prior to two thousand, probably like
Speaker 3: nineteen thirty, they knew you ever watched The Winter Soldier
Speaker 3: where you're informed The dude who told him how to
Speaker 3: write read the Book of the twentieth Century wrote the
Speaker 3: algorithm in nineteen thirty. So what we're looking at here
Speaker 3: is data is king, and it don't matter if it's
Speaker 3: coming from your refrigerator or your body. All that data
Speaker 3: will feed AI, and enough data fed to AI give
Speaker 3: someone a lot more power than anyone's ever had here
Speaker 3: to the point of predicting future activity to ninety nine
Speaker 3: percentile and things like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like they're trying to literally create their
Speaker 2: own crystal ball and being able to determine the future.
Speaker 2: And that's what's crazy about even you know, the algorithms
Speaker 2: and the a ads that you get on you know,
Speaker 2: on certain apps and stuff like that, it's almost like
Speaker 2: it's predicting what you're going to think about, which is
Speaker 2: even more sinister. I think it's.
Speaker 3: Been doing that for a long time. People have been saying, well,
Speaker 3: my computer's listening to me. Well, yes it is, but
Speaker 3: that's not how they knew you needed a winter coat
Speaker 3: before you did. They knew you needed a winter coat
Speaker 3: before you did because a billion other people's data has
Speaker 3: been fed into that through lord knows how many decades,
Speaker 3: who knows how much data they had to collect, and
Speaker 3: it worked out through an algorithm. You know, it's like
Speaker 3: wisdom of the crowd, right, anyone can do that. Go
Speaker 3: pull one hundred thousand people on how many marbles are
Speaker 3: in a jar. If you do it with one hundred
Speaker 3: thousand people and then average what each one of them
Speaker 3: told you, you'll be on the money. And that's just
Speaker 3: wisdom of the crowd. That's like below kindergarten compared to
Speaker 3: the AI that some have access to.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, it almost seems like they're trying to become
Speaker 2: like actual gods on earth really and looking at us
Speaker 2: like we are we are the ants, you know, oh.
Speaker 5: Dude, Especially as we look at how quantum computing and
Speaker 5: quantum processing and chips was at a marjoram or Mahorum.
Speaker 4: Or whatever the hell the one is.
Speaker 5: Now it's that quantum chip that can fit in the
Speaker 5: palm of your hand. Couple that with how AI is
Speaker 5: growing and learning and all these things. Yeah, we are screwed,
Speaker 5: like humanity is fucked.
Speaker 3: We're not, though, Really, what you're saying there, I'm hearing
Speaker 3: in every corner. And this is a byproduct of the
Speaker 3: institutionalized We've all had to suffer through our entire lives.
Speaker 3: Your mind has been convinced that there's no way in
Speaker 3: hell we're gtting out of this. And they did it
Speaker 3: on purpose. They slid it into every game you've played.
Speaker 3: They've slitted into every movie you've watched. They put frequencies,
Speaker 3: color patterns, flicker rates, and every other damn thing you
Speaker 3: can possibly imagine to back up their game that they've
Speaker 3: had control of for one heck of a long time.
Speaker 3: This place is full of human beings, and human beings
Speaker 3: are spiritual beings. The people here, me included, don't even
Speaker 3: know where we are because we've been lied to. We
Speaker 3: don't know how long we've been here, and most of
Speaker 3: us don't know what we're supposed to be doing. How
Speaker 3: can that be that millions of people have no idea
Speaker 3: how they got to a place, where that place is,
Speaker 3: or what we're supposed to be doing in that place.
Speaker 3: It's because we have been institutionalized by people who control
Speaker 3: information and systems and laws and banks and movies and
Speaker 3: all the things that surround us. But we are spiritual beings.
Speaker 3: We come to three D materiality to learn. As my
Speaker 3: friend Fortune says, this is like a boot camp, and
Speaker 3: it is hard and it is fast, and think about that.
Speaker 3: And so what we are capable of as spiritual beings
Speaker 3: I don't even talk about because most people would dismiss
Speaker 3: it out of hand, thinking that I smoked peyote for
Speaker 3: a living, which I do not. And this is the
Speaker 3: problem with being in front of the microphone. How do
Speaker 3: you string the words together to just offer someone the
Speaker 3: ability to consider what's been said here? And this is
Speaker 3: what we're up against, but they're going to lose. This
Speaker 3: place is not a playground for evil beings. This place
Speaker 3: was here for us. This place has a sun. We
Speaker 3: are the center of that system, not the other way
Speaker 3: around that NASA has been trying to tell you your
Speaker 3: whole life. We are the center.
Speaker 5: But the same way that we were just talking about
Speaker 5: how we can't trust any images unless you know the
Speaker 5: person with the scope with the camera, you know it
Speaker 5: hadn't been dealt with or messed with or whatever, because
Speaker 5: especially with the AI has been growing.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying humanity as a race we're going to be,
Speaker 5: you know, in a dystopian matrix movie in real life
Speaker 5: kind of thing. But I'm saying that people that are
Speaker 5: trying to look for truth from pretty much from this
Speaker 5: point on, we are at that precipice right now. We
Speaker 5: are not screwed as of this moment, but I see
Speaker 5: it in the next five ten years where honestly you
Speaker 5: won't be able to tell anything from reality to falsehoods.
Speaker 4: It's out of your own eyes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's already that way. It's that way right now.
Speaker 3: But let me rephrase that. We risk a dystopian future
Speaker 3: for some period of time, but never forget that all
Speaker 3: created things will see their end. So if everything went
Speaker 3: totally wrong and these dark hearted, low resonant beings got
Speaker 3: their way and they slaved us all out and tracked
Speaker 3: us and did all the things that they want to
Speaker 3: do that we know they want to do, that's got
Speaker 3: a lifespan.
Speaker 2: I think that there's a good amount of people that
Speaker 2: are awake, you know, in the world, I mean, depending
Speaker 2: on really in every country right like over in Russia,
Speaker 2: in China and the United States, all over the world.
Speaker 2: I think that there are people that are able to
Speaker 2: look at the system for what it is and not
Speaker 2: fall to, you know, the propaganda and all of the
Speaker 2: hypnosis in a way. And I think that it's those
Speaker 2: people that probably you know, people like us that are
Speaker 2: you know, I not to toot our horns in any means.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're just a couple of dudes, right, But like,
Speaker 2: I think that it takes people talking about it that
Speaker 2: is going to help wake up the rest of humanity
Speaker 2: in a sense, almost to the point where I think
Speaker 2: that eventually they're going to be coming at the propaganda,
Speaker 2: coming with the propaganda so hard that eventually people are
Speaker 2: just gonna unplug and maybe that's the win.
Speaker 3: Well, from what I understand, one of the tools that
Speaker 3: they've done to divide us is create this generation game.
Speaker 3: Well you're g at gen Z and I'm gen this
Speaker 3: someone else's gen that it's a division tool. But gen
Speaker 3: Z has just burned down the parliament building in Nepal.
Speaker 3: But to get back to the point, one of the
Speaker 3: last times we had a mass awakening, which I don't
Speaker 3: even think approaches what we're experiencing now, was post World
Speaker 3: War two, because things got so horrible, many many people
Speaker 3: that may not have woke up anytime soon did wake up.
Speaker 3: And this was covered by people like Swami Yogananda, who
Speaker 3: wrote a book biography of Yogi, which everyone should read,
Speaker 3: particularly if you're a Christian. You'll get something out of that.
Speaker 3: Great this is going on, and there is a great
Speaker 3: awakening and things have been taken to such an extreme
Speaker 3: that half the things we hear, even people that are
Speaker 3: so institutionalized they can't see beyond it, think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: This is like an all or nothing game almost, it
Speaker 3: seems where it's at the point where they're just going
Speaker 3: to start throwing anything because they know it's all or nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like it. I I didn't want to
Speaker 2: get your perspective on this though. I mean, you had
Speaker 2: mentioned the little Green men and whatnot. But a lot
Speaker 2: of people, including myself, have seen, for a lack of
Speaker 2: a better word, orbs in the night sky that seemed
Speaker 2: to be traveling across the sky, and some people, you know,
Speaker 2: say that they communicate with them. How do you verify that?
Speaker 2: But just as far as certain things that are going
Speaker 2: on in the sky can't be you know, satellites aren't airplanes,
Speaker 2: helicopters or definitely not drones because most of the time
Speaker 2: people see him, it's totally quiet outside. What is your
Speaker 2: perspective on these things?
Speaker 3: Did you see Shoot the Moon? Did you see my
Speaker 3: film Shoot the Moon? Yes, you see the footage of
Speaker 3: the shooting orb in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the little things that were coming out of
Speaker 2: the moon too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if they from our point of view,
Speaker 3: they look like they are. I don't know if they're
Speaker 3: actually even associated with the moon or it's just the
Speaker 3: line of sight. But to get back to the orb,
Speaker 3: I was back in the day. My wife and I
Speaker 3: every time we saw him, there was a good chance
Speaker 3: you'd see those little orbs. Looks like a ball of light.
Speaker 3: We'd see them with our eyes. Well, one day she
Speaker 3: came running in, said, get your scope. There's a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of them. They just laid trails and I ran out.
Speaker 3: I could see them, and I thought, I don't have
Speaker 3: time to set up my scope. Too bad. I didn't,
Speaker 3: so I got out my telephoto and I started filming.
Speaker 3: Or it drops down into a camp, trail, goes against
Speaker 3: the wind. This is a ball of light. We're talking about,
Speaker 3: goes down into the camp and it shoots a plasma beam.
Speaker 3: You can see it twice, three times actually, but twice
Speaker 3: you can easily see it shoots a plasma being and
Speaker 3: it's inexplicable. What is that? And from my point of view,
Speaker 3: this is the logic that I used to tell you
Speaker 3: that's human tech. If I walk into the desert and
Speaker 3: I walk for a day and a half, there's no
Speaker 3: one around, there's no cities around. I can't even see
Speaker 3: city light at night, and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 3: come to a little shack. Now walk up to the shack.
Speaker 3: There's no footprints around, nothing looks like it's not been
Speaker 3: entered for fifty years. And I walk inside. There's a
Speaker 3: peanut butter and jelly sandwich on the table. Who put
Speaker 3: it there? Do we know where peanut butter and jelly
Speaker 3: come from?
Speaker 4: We do?
Speaker 3: Do we know who makes peanut butter and jelly sandwiches?
Speaker 4: Most human beings?
Speaker 3: Then, by Okham's razor or any other number of logical things,
Speaker 3: I could state, we know damn well that a human
Speaker 3: being made that sandwich and put it there, even though
Speaker 3: I can't figure out where it came from. Where they went.
Speaker 3: Why there's no footprints or anything else. I can logically
Speaker 3: deduce that a human being put that pg PBJ there.
Speaker 5: Okay, So what is your take on the Bledsoe family
Speaker 5: and the orbs that they have been having in their
Speaker 5: backyard for years and the entity that came out of it.
Speaker 5: I think they refer to themselves as hathor what is
Speaker 5: your take on?
Speaker 4: Chris?
Speaker 3: You got to catch me up? Is this a news
Speaker 3: a recent news item? Well?
Speaker 4: No, no, Chris Blodshell has been seeing them in his
Speaker 4: yard for very part.
Speaker 2: Of a decade, I think twenty years actually closed to it. Famous.
Speaker 5: Hey, he's been on multiple news sources to talk about it,
Speaker 5: although most mainstream media look at him like a kook
Speaker 5: because of what he says.
Speaker 4: But he has video evidence.
Speaker 5: Of orbs well pretty much landing in his back not
Speaker 5: landing they flew, but coming into his backyard, and they
Speaker 5: communicate with him in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 4: He's written books about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's actually kind of crazy. They'll put like
Speaker 2: these brain nodes on his head and he's able, like
Speaker 2: he keeps his eyes closed. And now this was I
Speaker 2: think they put it up on the Discovery Channel or
Speaker 2: something like that after a while. But they he has
Speaker 2: these brain nodes on his on his head and he
Speaker 2: closes his eyes and he's able to determine where they're
Speaker 2: going to be right before they show up, and then
Speaker 2: they show up. So I don't know if that's movie magic,
Speaker 2: but I don't know.
Speaker 3: First of all, he's been doing this a while, he's
Speaker 3: known from what you've told me, So that means other
Speaker 3: people can regularly go witness what he's doing.
Speaker 2: Right right, and and a lot of people are.
Speaker 3: And so then that means video HD video will be produced,
Speaker 3: which if you took an interest to want to know
Speaker 3: the truth, you might have the ability to go know
Speaker 3: that that video is real and suss it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know, man, the whole see a video.
Speaker 3: Of mister Bledsoe on YouTube is evidence of exactly nothing.
Speaker 4: M Yeah, yeah, you can't verify it.
Speaker 3: You don't even know if Bledsoe is a real human
Speaker 3: being until you shake his hand.
Speaker 4: We were supposed to have him.
Speaker 5: On our show a few times, but then he's a
Speaker 5: very busy guy, so we're trying to get his son
Speaker 5: on the show, and we've never been able to schedule
Speaker 5: that out. There's always conflicts of the dates when we
Speaker 5: try to make this happen. But yeah, if you want
Speaker 5: to check out his names, Bledsoe said. So this is.
Speaker 3: Part of the problem, though, because the way, particularly the
Speaker 3: younger generation, get information now is off the Internet, and
Speaker 3: much of the information that they're getting is not only
Speaker 3: un verifiable, it has no relationship to your life. It's
Speaker 3: like when they want to tell you in a different
Speaker 3: state across the country, this horrible event just happened today,
Speaker 3: and they start echoing it across the country. Well, first
Speaker 3: of all, it has no bearing on my existence, So
Speaker 3: why are you barraging me with this? Secondarily, I have
Speaker 3: no ability to vet out whether it's true or not.
Speaker 3: But what we will see is after that is done
Speaker 3: on any given night of the week, the next day
Speaker 3: at the water cooler in the office, people are going
Speaker 3: to show up and start echoing it. Well, you see
Speaker 3: what happened, and they're going to talk about it as
Speaker 3: if it's a fact. And that is the institutionalization I've
Speaker 3: been talking about. Because if I go out into my
Speaker 3: neighborhood and I drive around for a week, how many
Speaker 3: rapes will I witness? How many murders, how many school shootings,
Speaker 3: how many anything. I might see a couple bad things,
Speaker 3: but that will be the not normal thing, right, I
Speaker 3: might see a car accident or a fender bender, but
Speaker 3: not most of the time. Just it happened that one time.
Speaker 3: Whereas the news will come in day after day after
Speaker 3: day and echo chamber things that I maintained didn't even
Speaker 3: happen in the first place, many of them.
Speaker 2: That is true that you do get bombarded on a
Speaker 2: minute to minute basis, and that's so that again, go home.
Speaker 3: And after you're done with the news, you put a
Speaker 3: movie on. So let me ask you, if you were
Speaker 3: born the year you were born and never had access
Speaker 3: to a television, to radio or a movie, how many
Speaker 3: murders would you see? How many human being shot with guns?
Speaker 3: How many grenades blowing someone up? How many nuclear disasters?
Speaker 3: How many vampires? How many dinosaurs? How many I mean,
Speaker 3: I'll go on, how many would you see in your lifetime?
Speaker 4: I guess it depends on where you live.
Speaker 5: Maybe not for the vampires and dinosaurs, but like the
Speaker 5: shootings and stabbings and shit like. Yeah, if you live
Speaker 5: in a rough area, you actually might see that before
Speaker 5: you hit puberty. But I mean vast of people, right,
Speaker 5: I mean it not every day, not every day, And
Speaker 5: to the further that point. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 5: school shooting's big, big talking point, right it's a big
Speaker 5: hot button item for anybody in the political space. I
Speaker 5: forget if his name was Foster or Frost, one of
Speaker 5: these guys. He did a study, actually pulled the numbers
Speaker 5: on this, and you'll never hear this from mainstream media
Speaker 5: because mainstream media says the school shootings are more prevalent
Speaker 5: now than ever before, and your kids are in danger
Speaker 5: and it's fear tactics. Right, Statistically speaking, we were three
Speaker 5: times more likely to be shot in a school shooting
Speaker 5: in the eighties and nineties than we were now.
Speaker 4: Like the numbers are the numbers here.
Speaker 5: You had a point one five percent shot, not even
Speaker 5: a one percent, but a point one five percent chance
Speaker 5: of being a victim of a school shooting in the
Speaker 5: late eighties and mid to late nineties. Right right now,
Speaker 5: it's point zero five percent chance, three times less likely.
Speaker 5: But if you watch any kind of mainstream media, that
Speaker 5: is not what they tell you.
Speaker 3: What if eighty percent of those things that just got
Speaker 3: counted by this man were actually, you know, disaster drills
Speaker 3: that were filmed and then passed off or things like this.
Speaker 3: Do you I should have asked you before we started,
Speaker 3: is it's going to run on YouTube and other platforms?
Speaker 4: Now, we got kicked off of YouTube during COVID holme,
Speaker 4: No way.
Speaker 3: I got kicked off after we added Mandalay Bay. But
Speaker 3: so here here's the deal. Do you remember Sandy Hook?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do you remember how thoroughly it was ripped apart in
Speaker 3: real time before the censorship was in real time?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do you recognize that that massive event that should be
Speaker 3: annually remembered for the horror that happened is never talked
Speaker 3: about because the Boston bombing is the same It was
Speaker 3: ripped apart in real time. You can't find one of
Speaker 3: those videos now of all the people that definitely took
Speaker 3: this apart. So let me ask you a question. If
Speaker 3: we know that those two major events were a put up,
Speaker 3: why would we ever trust anything that the news ever
Speaker 3: told us?
Speaker 4: Again?
Speaker 5: To that point, Columbine is remembered every year. Maybe not
Speaker 5: a whole day of rememorance or anything, but Fox and
Speaker 5: CNN and all the big major news outlets on the
Speaker 5: anniversary of Columbine will at least make a mention of.
Speaker 4: It every year four twenty right, well, yeah, four.
Speaker 5: Twenty and it's also Hitler's birthday and yeah, yeah, all
Speaker 5: the stuff. Yeah it is four twenty blazing, you know
Speaker 5: what's up.
Speaker 4: Anyway.
Speaker 5: My point is though, that they they will at least
Speaker 5: make a mention of it. But that was because that
Speaker 5: was a true school shooting. There were two guys that
Speaker 5: went crazy and shopped their school and it was a
Speaker 5: mass causal the event, all the stuff, and that was
Speaker 5: a legitimate one. They make a moment to or they
Speaker 5: take a moment to remember that every year. They don't
Speaker 5: do that for Sandy Hook. They don't do that for
Speaker 5: any of these other school shootings. However, if you go
Speaker 5: on YouTube right now, I'm just trying to scroll through
Speaker 5: finding videos, the ads that are playing are parents of
Speaker 5: some of the children of Sandy Hook, and they're like
Speaker 5: trying to start some new initiative to bring awareness to
Speaker 5: and all these things. And it's like, wait, who the
Speaker 5: fuck is even talking about Sandy Hook anymore?
Speaker 4: I don't know who any of you people are.
Speaker 3: But so I noticed a couple things. By what you
Speaker 3: just told me, you stated that that was a true,
Speaker 3: real event, and this is the problem suppose that there
Speaker 3: was actually shots fired there, even though the spin that
Speaker 3: is put behind it and what is done with it.
Speaker 3: But I would submit to you that I know people
Speaker 3: that if I aimed him at that would probably almost
Speaker 3: immediately begin to find issues. And I am so far
Speaker 3: beyond doing this. For a few reasons, the Mandalay Bay
Speaker 3: is a good week. For years, Jason and I would
Speaker 3: tackle the big ones because people would email us scared
Speaker 3: to death and bombed and heartbroken from just this horrible,
Speaker 3: tragic place we live in. And we started to cover
Speaker 3: them to show these are put ups. That was getting
Speaker 3: to the point when we were even seeing crisis actors
Speaker 3: could be shown to be in the very same It
Speaker 3: just went on and on. So Mandalay Bay happens, and
Speaker 3: after all these years of people following us, that was
Speaker 3: the real one again, how that one was big.
Speaker 6: Brother?
Speaker 3: And we took it apart. And one of the things
Speaker 3: we did was showed they love Macbeth. The story of
Speaker 3: Macbeth goes back into James Shelby Downard, showing you the
Speaker 3: Masonic geomancy and everything they do, Macbeth is a big
Speaker 3: deal to them. We the Yeah, we showed that it
Speaker 3: that it was lined up with Macbeth Act one, Seen one.
Speaker 3: Three witches in a desert, hint hint, hint, bubble bubble,
Speaker 3: toil in trouble, and she gets her demon familiar. That's Oad.
Speaker 3: What's the demon's name, It's Paddock Yep. Okay, So we
Speaker 3: out this and they take down my channel. Then people
Speaker 3: start contacting me this one. I'm in San Diego saying
Speaker 3: what is wrong with you? I lost my brother's sisters,
Speaker 3: cousin's dog in this thing, and you have no heart. Well,
Speaker 3: I've been doing this enough years and every time I
Speaker 3: took a part when that happened back in the day,
Speaker 3: so I said I had changed my point of view.
Speaker 3: I didn't face them down anymore. I said, you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm a human being. I could be wrong. Please tell
Speaker 3: me the hospital or the memorial or whatever, and I
Speaker 3: will do a donation and send flowers with an apology.
Speaker 3: Never heard from them again.
Speaker 5: I don't even have a problem with saying that that
Speaker 5: was a quote unquote real shooting, and there were people
Speaker 5: that died at the Mandalay Bay. The story of the
Speaker 5: guy who fired the shots, and the story of pretty
Speaker 5: much all of the background to how it took place
Speaker 5: and all that makes no sense out loud shots being fired,
Speaker 5: people dying at.
Speaker 4: A big music festival.
Speaker 5: Okay, I could at least put those pieces together and
Speaker 5: see that there was some fucker real foot all.
Speaker 3: Why but wait a minute, why are you willing to
Speaker 3: put that together? That is not human beings for the
Speaker 3: most part. Don't That should be foreign That should be
Speaker 3: a foreign idea to normal human being. And this is
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. We're willing to accept the possibility.
Speaker 3: We're willing to I don't even know how to put
Speaker 3: words behind this, because this should be a foreign idea.
Speaker 4: I mean it is.
Speaker 5: But somebody losing their mind and going out there and
Speaker 5: just killing a bunch of people. I'm not saying that's normal.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying like, oh yeah, well, you know, that
Speaker 5: kind of thing does happen. It is an anomaly. It
Speaker 5: is a rarity. But there are cases where that has
Speaker 5: taken place over the course of human history. So at
Speaker 5: least I can, in the status of my mind, put
Speaker 5: the piece together and be like, okay, sure, but it
Speaker 5: was one guy who somehow was firing three separate weapons
Speaker 5: at the exact same time into a crowd and shot
Speaker 5: out nineteen windows of the hotel himself when it was like, okay, wait, bro,
Speaker 5: what let me jump.
Speaker 3: In for a second, but go for it. Only got
Speaker 3: so much time and Rose actually brought some cool things
Speaker 3: I want to show you guys, and I don't want
Speaker 3: to run up and not have enough time to share
Speaker 3: it with you guys. I mean, if you're cool, I'm
Speaker 3: sorry for interrupting, and I don't mean to do it always, okay,
Speaker 3: or do you guys want to see this stuff?
Speaker 4: Fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay. So, as you guys know, I spent I don't
Speaker 3: know a little over half a decade doing the moon
Speaker 3: created shoot the Moon, so I've shifted over to the Sun.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: The Sun's a really big deal. It's directly in line
Speaker 3: with the idea of the era shift that we're having.
Speaker 3: But I wanted to share some of these images with
Speaker 3: you guys, all right, So if you have anything you'd
Speaker 3: like me to answer about it or anything else. This
Speaker 3: so on Crow Triple seven Radio dot com. I give
Speaker 3: full access to all my solar work. I no longer
Speaker 3: put it on censorship platforms or places that can control
Speaker 3: it or sensor it. This is one of the stills.
Speaker 3: When I started doing this, people said hey, man, make
Speaker 3: still images we can print, So I made these. Some
Speaker 3: of them can print up like fifty inches. But this
Speaker 3: is shot in hydrogen alpha, and maybe fifteen years ago,
Speaker 3: when I have my first solar telescope, there was little
Speaker 3: to no hope of amateur being able to get data
Speaker 3: at this level. So it's really kind of a privilege
Speaker 3: to be able to film at this level now with
Speaker 3: the tools that are available.
Speaker 4: What is hydrogen alpha?
Speaker 3: So when you the whole electromagnetic spectrum has a part
Speaker 3: in the middle called the visual spectrum, which is point
Speaker 3: I think point zero zero three of the entire spectrum.
Speaker 3: We're almost blind. We can only see point zero zero three.
Speaker 3: Within the visual is the red. To the far right
Speaker 3: of the red is the hydrogen alpha where I'm filming,
Speaker 3: which allows me to see these details like the prominences
Speaker 3: and the surface details. There's a looping prominence and so
Speaker 3: what's cool is you can really begin to see this
Speaker 3: is electromagnetic. We're familiar with what a magnet, the shapes
Speaker 3: a magnet makes, right with like metal, dust and things. Well,
Speaker 3: we're being told this is a nuclear furnace, which I
Speaker 3: don't accept. I accept that it's electromagnetic, but sorry, I
Speaker 3: lost my train of thought for a second.
Speaker 4: There, you're good.
Speaker 5: I remember when Jonathan told me that you were shooting
Speaker 5: the sun. I was thinking because my only personal experience
Speaker 5: with anything of looking at the sun would be during
Speaker 5: a solar eclipse or something. You go grab a welding hood, right,
Speaker 5: you look through that at the sun. So I didn't
Speaker 5: know what kind of lens you were using to shoot
Speaker 5: at the Sun and like actually be able to discern
Speaker 5: images and anomalies on the surface. So you're using this
Speaker 5: through the hydrogen alpha electromagnetic filter for lack of better words.
Speaker 3: So check it out. I have a dedicated solar telescope.
Speaker 3: In Shoot the Moon. I included near the end the
Speaker 3: discovery of the second Sun with a very low end telescope.
Speaker 3: Compared to this, solar telescopes tend to have a thing
Speaker 3: called an eedalon built into it. What an eedalon is
Speaker 3: is a filter that only allows these wavelengths through the
Speaker 3: hydrogen alpha that I'm interested in. So with the edalon,
Speaker 3: which is a alter system and typically a blocking filter
Speaker 3: of some kind, you knock out all the energy, the
Speaker 3: surface brightness, and you just let through the hydrogen aalpha,
Speaker 3: so all the glare energy, brightness, and other wavelengths are
Speaker 3: not allowed to come into the camera, just the hydrogen alpha.
Speaker 4: If that explains it, okay.
Speaker 2: With You'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around this,
Speaker 2: because how is it possible that you'd be able to
Speaker 2: zoom in this like this far if it's ninety three
Speaker 2: million miles away, like how would you be able to.
Speaker 3: Good point, I don't accept that it's ninety three million
Speaker 3: miles away. This is part of warping our minds. From
Speaker 3: my point of view, they want me to believe that
Speaker 3: it takes eight minutes for the light from the sun
Speaker 3: to get here. That is so screwing with what I
Speaker 3: know to be common sense. In my view, the sun
Speaker 3: and the moon are much closer and they're right here
Speaker 3: with us for us. That's my point of view. You
Speaker 3: can go to the next one rose. Here's the black
Speaker 3: and white. So what you should know is there's nothing
Speaker 3: fake in these images I'm showing you except one thing.
Speaker 3: Can you guess what the one thing is? And it's
Speaker 3: not in this one colours paused my bed. The color
Speaker 3: is the only thing that is not natural. I shoot
Speaker 3: in black and white because I get much more data
Speaker 3: through all the shades of black, white, and grays, and
Speaker 3: then I assign the color, and I put this color
Speaker 3: because our eyes kind of expect something like this, So
Speaker 3: this is actually unmissed with other than the color. And
Speaker 3: Rose showed the black and white one, so you can
Speaker 3: see what it is I'm actually walking away with. Here's
Speaker 3: another spill that I made for people to print, and
Speaker 3: it shows that the flame looking things on the side,
Speaker 3: those are called prominences. But you see the squiggly white
Speaker 3: things on the face. Yeah, those are prominences too that
Speaker 3: you're looking straight down on. They're called filaments, but it's
Speaker 3: the same thing from a different angle.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, do you just to get your thoughts on this?
Speaker 2: Do you think that the sun is I mean, for
Speaker 2: a lack of a better word, a sphere, Well, it is.
Speaker 3: It is round, and I know that firsthand. It's got
Speaker 3: to guess. So if I like this morning, I told
Speaker 3: you guys before we start recording, I captured three hours
Speaker 3: of data. What that means is to make an animation,
Speaker 3: I need at least an hour. That'll get me four seconds.
Speaker 3: If I film for an hour, If I film for
Speaker 3: three I can get about twenty seconds. What I do
Speaker 3: is I shoot a video of five hundred frames, stop
Speaker 3: shooting for half a minute, shoot another five hundred frames,
Speaker 3: and I do that for three hours. After I'm done,
Speaker 3: I have hundreds of five hundred frame individual videos. I
Speaker 3: take the best frames out of each one and collapse
Speaker 3: it down into a single image, then put it on
Speaker 3: a timeline and speed it up so we can see
Speaker 3: the motion. Okay, that's how it works. So in a
Speaker 3: three hour run, I can actually see the sun rolling.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if Rose has examples, but that
Speaker 3: sunspot she just showed you in that image, that sunspot,
Speaker 3: there's well, those are two sunspots close together. Actually, But
Speaker 3: if I shot that waited twenty four hours and it
Speaker 3: was still there, it would be roughly the same spot.
Speaker 3: It will have gone all the way around. But in
Speaker 3: roughly three hours, that's enough time to show the motion. Now,
Speaker 3: if you shoot the way you were describing earlier with
Speaker 3: just you know, like when you put a welding doggle on,
Speaker 3: that's called shooting in white light. And sometimes the sun
Speaker 3: spots in white light appear to move slightly differently, but
Speaker 3: they are rotating. It is my point of view that
Speaker 3: what we're looking at here as an outer show. It
Speaker 3: is electromagnetic. It's like some kind of a I don't
Speaker 3: know what. It's a hollow core, but it's look at
Speaker 3: those sunspots. You can see flashes down in there from
Speaker 3: those little filaments going down around the corner if you
Speaker 3: get really good footage. But it is further my point
Speaker 3: of view that it is drawing its energy from counter space.
Speaker 4: What is counter space?
Speaker 3: Good question? Wish I could answer that better than I can.
Speaker 3: But what I'm trying to communicate is from outside here,
Speaker 3: from our little flask that we live in, our little
Speaker 3: contained system. It's my point of view that nobody leaves
Speaker 3: our atmosphere with their tennis shoes. In other words, matter
Speaker 3: doesn't leave here. We're kind of tuned to here. That's
Speaker 3: just my point of view. Here's more stills that start
Speaker 3: to show the detail. Now. The reason I started doing
Speaker 3: this is because in twenty fifteen I discovered another body
Speaker 3: and I'm hoping Rose has that footage. I think it's
Speaker 3: the binary to our sun that is spoken about in
Speaker 3: all the old Veda traditions and the old Vedic and
Speaker 3: the Cali Yuga and the Yuga idea. They say that
Speaker 3: our sun has a binary and when it gets further
Speaker 3: away from us, we experience a dark age and low consciousness.
Speaker 3: And when it gets close to us, our consciousness and
Speaker 3: spirituality expands, and all these amazing things begin to happen
Speaker 3: because the energy that comes with it lifts us up,
Speaker 3: which I think is what we're experiencing now.
Speaker 4: Is the counterpart not the moon. I don't know this.
Speaker 5: I'm not very well versed in the Vedic traditions, but
Speaker 5: like if they were to say that the sun has
Speaker 5: an equal and opposite counterpart, and we're talking about the ancients,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of sources that say that would be
Speaker 5: like the sun and moon, they are the antithesis of
Speaker 5: each other, kind of.
Speaker 3: Positive and negative. That's a separate idea. What I'm saying.
Speaker 3: They literally call a binary a second sun. There's my telescope.
Speaker 3: See the red band, that's the etalon. Inside there is
Speaker 3: the eedalon.
Speaker 4: Gotcha.
Speaker 5: So you're saying that we have a essentially and probably
Speaker 5: oversimplifying this, a second sun. My question now is where
Speaker 5: is this second son located in relation to this sun?
Speaker 3: Okay, freeze it right on, grab a stole rose and
Speaker 3: freeze it so I can show them.
Speaker 5: Because we've had people come on the show before and
Speaker 5: talk about how there's not phantom planets. They talk about
Speaker 5: how they see other planets in the sky like Nabiru,
Speaker 5: and you can only see it at you know, right
Speaker 5: at sunset or right at dawn or whatever the case,
Speaker 5: and you have to look at a certain way. And
Speaker 5: every time I hear this, and every time I look
Speaker 5: at these pictures, I just don't see it. And it's
Speaker 5: not because I'm a hater. I literally can't see what
Speaker 5: they're touch out.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is unacceptable. Why would anyone accept what
Speaker 3: I just said because it goes against everything they've ever heard.
Speaker 3: So in this image I left evidence of the second Sun.
Speaker 3: Can you see it?
Speaker 2: It's behind the sun, isn't it.
Speaker 3: It is so Notice at the bottom left how the
Speaker 3: glow is lopsided and there's no back glow on the
Speaker 3: upper right. Yes, Okay, okay, I've filmed for two years
Speaker 3: straight now and I've seen that lopsided glow on both
Speaker 3: sides all around. Now, what tends to happen? Which is
Speaker 3: interesting based on what you just said. For some reason,
Speaker 3: when the sun is rising seems to be the best
Speaker 3: chance to see them separated as the sun begins to rise,
Speaker 3: it tucks in behind it. And the other thing is
Speaker 3: it's dimmer than our sun and it gets lost in
Speaker 3: the glow unless there's lots of smoke in the sky
Speaker 3: or you have the tools to knock down the glow
Speaker 3: of the sun. Now. The Slow Observatory in twenty sixteen
Speaker 3: was doing a live stream for children to show mercury
Speaker 3: transiting the sun. Halfway through, he says, I bet you're
Speaker 3: out there it is. I outlined it right there. Oh,
Speaker 3: that's an animated one. Halfway through the live stream from
Speaker 3: the Slow Observatory. The guy says, I'll bet you're wondering
Speaker 3: what that other body is and listen to this. You
Speaker 3: can look it up on YouTube. He says, that's our
Speaker 3: second son. NASA knows all about it. They just don't
Speaker 3: want you to know about it. He says this to
Speaker 3: kids on a live stream. When I started using that information,
Speaker 3: he started defending, saying, well, clearly I was joking. Well
Speaker 3: why would you joke to children in a mercury transit.
Speaker 3: You can see it right there and frame you can
Speaker 3: see the second son. If you go to my film
Speaker 3: Shoot the Moon, you can see the second Sun. I
Speaker 3: filmed it in hydrogen alpha, and it is my goal
Speaker 3: to get my superior equipment that I saved for years
Speaker 3: for again to film and learn much much more. But
Speaker 3: people like Shri Yuk Deshwar, he wrote a book called
Speaker 3: The Holy Science. The first twelve or fifteen pages he
Speaker 3: recalculates the Yuga cycle and states that the last time
Speaker 3: it was calculated, we were in a lower state of
Speaker 3: consciousness and they got some things wrong. So he also
Speaker 3: mentions the binary sun. There are other places you can
Speaker 3: look it up. It is my sense of things, and
Speaker 3: I'm a human being, so I could absolutely be wrong,
Speaker 3: and I'm working to prove what I can. But it
Speaker 3: is not debatable. There is another body there. Whether anything
Speaker 3: I've said about it is spot on is debatable, to
Speaker 3: be perfectly clear and fair to everybody. But I see
Speaker 3: people waking up. I see people's spirituality going through the
Speaker 3: roof compared to what it was not too long ago.
Speaker 3: And that is connected to the idea that this other
Speaker 3: binary sun, when it gets closer, this is what happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Interesting, So we're also of the belief then that the
Speaker 5: sun revolves around us and not the other way around.
Speaker 3: Correct, That's what I accept. Now Here you go, guys,
Speaker 3: watch this. That's the sun we see authorized, that's lends flair.
Speaker 3: Watch the top of the frame the sun, we see
Speaker 3: lens flare coming in. Watched the top of the frame this.
Speaker 3: I shot this in twenty fifteen and it blew me away.
Speaker 3: See that thing go by. Yeah, I'm what the heck
Speaker 3: is that?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: Watch son we see with our eyes that we know,
Speaker 3: followed by lens flair as it leaves the frame. There's
Speaker 3: the other body. WHOA.
Speaker 5: So there's gonna be those that say that this is
Speaker 5: kind of a the lens issue.
Speaker 4: Exactly right.
Speaker 3: I did everything I could to prove it's not. And
Speaker 3: then in twenty sixteen a man named Chris van Maitre
Speaker 3: replicated what I did. Then at a conference they were at,
Speaker 3: a lady brought a polarized filter and they found it
Speaker 3: again and they put the polarized filter on it, and
Speaker 3: the outcome of that proved it is in fact a body,
Speaker 3: not an illusion not light. You know how when you
Speaker 3: take polarized sunglasses and you can't see because of the
Speaker 3: lens the flaring light, and you put them on and
Speaker 3: it goes away. Yeah right, that's what was done. Basically,
Speaker 3: So the other body is proven. But look, I had
Speaker 3: real trouble. This was a low end telescope compared to
Speaker 3: what I have now bringing it into focus. It's almost
Speaker 3: like there was something in between me and it, like
Speaker 3: maybe the firmament. I don't know, something felt like there
Speaker 3: was something in between me and it. But I have
Speaker 3: a lot more to.
Speaker 2: Learn between you and the sun, or you and the
Speaker 2: second sun, or both the second son. Okay, oh that's interesting.
Speaker 3: It's slightly smaller, and it is quite a bit dimmer
Speaker 3: for our eyes right now.
Speaker 5: Could that possibly be like we talked about a lens
Speaker 5: issue against the firmament.
Speaker 3: No, because like if you like a reflection, you mean
Speaker 3: of our son, then it should be visible anytime, right,
Speaker 3: If it's reflecting off the firmament, you should be able
Speaker 3: to find it anytime you want. And the other thing
Speaker 3: is when the sun's rising, it shouldn't be separate, different sizes,
Speaker 3: different brightnesses, and then as it rises, tucking in behind true.
Speaker 2: Well, that's almost I've heard people say that they believe
Speaker 2: that the sun is actually attached or stuck in the
Speaker 2: firmament itself. What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: I think the reality is something close to that. But
Speaker 3: you got to be honest when you're doing what we're
Speaker 3: doing here. I don't know. I want to know a
Speaker 3: lot more than I do. I accept that it's closer,
Speaker 3: and the idea that it's in the firmament, well, I
Speaker 3: can find plenty of ancients that wrote things like that
Speaker 3: about the stars and everything, so I think those are
Speaker 3: interesting ideas. But I can't claim that I know because
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, that's fair. You had mentioned the filaments of
Speaker 2: the Sun when we were looking at it earlier, not
Speaker 2: the second Sun, but the son that we know. What
Speaker 2: do you think those filaments actually are then? Because it
Speaker 2: doesn't seem necessarily like boiling hot lava by any means.
Speaker 3: I you know, maybe it's like some kind of plasma.
Speaker 3: I think maybe the descriptions that NASA gives on some
Speaker 3: things like the question you're asking are probably very close
Speaker 3: to the truth. But they're saying this is a nuclear furnace,
Speaker 3: and I'm saying it's electromagnetic. And by the way, Eric
Speaker 3: Eric Dollard agrees with me as a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: when I describe what I think is correct to Eric Dollard,
Speaker 3: he took it much farther than I can even go,
Speaker 3: because I'm nowhere near as smart as he is, and
Speaker 3: he is the one that gave me the word counterspace
Speaker 3: because I was saying, beyond our little closed environment here.
Speaker 4: Could it be both?
Speaker 5: Could it be electro magnet as well as nuclear?
Speaker 4: Not?
Speaker 5: In my eyes explain, I don't know, but I understand
Speaker 5: that typically heat kills magnetism, and I understand that well.
Speaker 3: I don't accept that the sun is hot. There's an
Speaker 3: old alchemical kind of standard thing that would say this
Speaker 3: to the new people learning, the students. So you think
Speaker 3: the sun is hot. If that was true, then there
Speaker 3: would be no snow on the top of every tall mountain.
Speaker 3: Why is this Because a high mountain is closer to
Speaker 3: the sun. So if the sun is hot, you've gotten
Speaker 3: closer to the heat source. What I think is going
Speaker 3: on is it creates energy, and the heat is created
Speaker 3: when that energy interacts with matter.
Speaker 2: Yes, if there was a vacuum.
Speaker 3: Which I don't accept, and it was in there, not
Speaker 3: only would you not be able to see it, you
Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to feel it because there would be
Speaker 3: no matter for it to heat up. Okay, that's my
Speaker 3: point of view, and it's based on what a lot
Speaker 3: of old alchemists talked about because the sun is central
Speaker 3: to a lot of alchemy, because the seasons are central.
Speaker 3: And the thing that kind of vexes me is most
Speaker 3: people think that what I call the skyclock, which is everything,
Speaker 3: star's planets all that I invented a new word because
Speaker 3: if you say one thing, all the globe people get mad.
Speaker 3: If you say another, all the flat earth people get mad.
Speaker 3: So I use the term skyclock to try to bridge
Speaker 3: the gap. They don't think it influences us. And yet
Speaker 3: we know for a fact that in the summer it's
Speaker 3: going to be hot, and for a lot of people
Speaker 3: in the winter it's going to be frozen. Well what's
Speaker 3: causing that? Well, the skyclock is causing that, isn't it.
Speaker 3: And so these influences like the Great Barrier Reef, which
Speaker 3: they call the largest living organism every I think it's November.
Speaker 3: It spews, you know, sperm and eggs every year. Well
Speaker 3: what causes that, Well, the moon is part of it.
Speaker 3: They know it's the skyclock. And so the problem is
Speaker 3: we came up in a time where the paper wanted
Speaker 3: to do ridiculous astrology ideas to make it seem you know,
Speaker 3: simple minded and unbelievable, but not too too long ago.
Speaker 3: The stars, the constellations. Look at that. You see that
Speaker 3: it made a heart shape. It cracks me up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that like smoke.
Speaker 3: It's the film, it's the prominence, it's the plasma or
Speaker 3: whatever it is. While I was filming and I was,
Speaker 3: you know, putting it together, I noticed it made a
Speaker 3: heart shape. So I froze it right there. What.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Oh that's cool.
Speaker 4: That was what they're saying.
Speaker 3: So get this. That was shot on the thirty first
Speaker 3: of August, last day of the month, and that night
Speaker 3: they saw the Aurora borealis in Rhode Island, as far
Speaker 3: south as Rhode Island.
Speaker 2: Whoa wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course that's because a global warming obviously.
Speaker 3: Case in point right right, all this carbon is a problem.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna have to slave you all out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you saying that?
Speaker 5: Basically, solar flares are close to what NASA tells us
Speaker 5: that they are.
Speaker 3: No what they're made out of. He was saying, what
Speaker 3: is it? And I said, you know, you can look
Speaker 3: up the Uh. My problem in talking about this is
Speaker 3: like when I got going on my first telescope, I
Speaker 3: tried to learn everything about the Hubble Telescope, and NASA.
Speaker 3: Then years later I realized that they were playing games
Speaker 3: with me. So as I went into the Sun, I
Speaker 3: purposefully didn't learn so much about what the mainstream wants
Speaker 3: me to think it is, so that I can try
Speaker 3: to use firsthand observation and base you know, my ideas
Speaker 3: on that, which is problematic in both directions, because you
Speaker 3: want to ask me an easy question like that, and
Speaker 3: in a way I have to tell you, well, maybe
Speaker 3: it's plasma, but I can't tell you.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you believe that that the sun is And
Speaker 2: this is going to might sound silly to a lot
Speaker 2: of people, do you believe that the sun is a
Speaker 2: conscious being?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, It's directly related to our consciousness and our spirituality,
Speaker 3: and it is them. It's not the creator of all life.
Speaker 3: It is the thing that allows for and sustains life.
Speaker 3: And this starts with the plant kingdom. Without plants, none
Speaker 3: of this is doing anything because we're either eating them
Speaker 3: or the things we eat are eating them. There's one
Speaker 3: form of life below that in my point of view,
Speaker 3: and that's crystals. Crystals are the most stationary form of life,
Speaker 3: which science doesn't accept. What I just said, this is
Speaker 3: truly the light of our world. But let me be clear,
Speaker 3: I am not making a religious pun against it. It
Speaker 3: is literally the light of this world, and we forget that,
Speaker 3: and we have ideas like if you appreciate the sun,
Speaker 3: you're just an evil sun worshiper. That's a shame that
Speaker 3: point of view, because the sun is among the most
Speaker 3: important things for us here. But then again, there have
Speaker 3: been plenty of religions that turned it into God or
Speaker 3: something close to it. This, in my view, this would
Speaker 3: be provided by from God, that kind of an idea.
Speaker 3: I agree, Like whatever the top creation put us here
Speaker 3: to do what it does.
Speaker 5: I think that it's not a far stretch to understand
Speaker 5: why the cultures and tribes of the ancients have essentially
Speaker 5: developed some form of sun worship for no other reason
Speaker 5: than what you just said. Without the sun, we don't
Speaker 5: get the plants or the animals that we need to
Speaker 5: sustain life. Now, to an ancient they would clearly see
Speaker 5: that as a life giving source and therefore a God
Speaker 5: in its own right. So I yeah, appreciation of the
Speaker 5: sun for what it is and what it does for
Speaker 5: us does not make you some sort of a heretic
Speaker 5: or a pagan by any means all I have.
Speaker 3: I have kind of a different point of view too.
Speaker 3: And as we're constantly told, they thought they were gods.
Speaker 3: And what I noticed, like in Greek, is are those
Speaker 3: actually aspects of nature that we said they personified aspects
Speaker 3: of nature so they could talk about them and do
Speaker 3: other things with the ideas. But did they really worship
Speaker 3: it as a god or was it just an aspect
Speaker 3: of nature that they recognized as important.
Speaker 4: I feel like probably both.
Speaker 5: They had deities that they assigned to these things, and
Speaker 5: they built statues of them and did sacrifices to this
Speaker 5: statues and all these things, but they were more or
Speaker 5: less putting their own spiritual twist on the nature of
Speaker 5: what was around them.
Speaker 4: I think both can be happening at the same time.
Speaker 2: Well, the idea that I think that it was probably
Speaker 2: just a way of being able to describe something in
Speaker 2: a in a human kind of way, you know, like
Speaker 2: you're just trying to get to ascribe characteristics to something.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: Sorry, one thing too, I would mention is natural science
Speaker 3: has taken a far back seat to kind of the
Speaker 3: modern science. And natural science was related to what we
Speaker 3: now call alchemy, which is usually you know, you're saying
Speaker 3: it derisively when you talk about alchemy if you're a scientist.
Speaker 3: But all those procedures were bound to the skyclock like
Speaker 3: the real procedures had to start in March, a lot
Speaker 3: of them. And so the appreciation for what a season
Speaker 3: means and that the world is doing different things. As
Speaker 3: an example, and from my point of view, like in
Speaker 3: March there is the biggest release of energy of all time.
Speaker 3: Every year, nothing even comes close to the energy explosion
Speaker 3: that occurs in March with all the new life and
Speaker 3: new plants and everything. And that informs me that all
Speaker 3: winter long it must be building or storing.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: There's all these aspects of nature that because of the
Speaker 3: modern grocery store and all the things we have now,
Speaker 3: we don't think about, which is unfortunate because these are
Speaker 3: important things. And to me, to be closer in tune
Speaker 3: and comprehend better the creation is a spiritual plus in
Speaker 3: my book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I find it pretty silly that we look back
Speaker 2: on ancient culture, on ancient cultures as if they were
Speaker 2: you know, not advanced enough, they didn't understand And yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: I don't buy that, because these people were outside almost
Speaker 2: all the time they were with nature and they described
Speaker 2: you know, the stars and the sun and the moon.
Speaker 2: They were able to track all of these different things.
Speaker 2: And to say that they were just essentially cavemen and
Speaker 2: that didn't understand shit, that's just that is so it's disrespectful,
Speaker 2: I think, but just untrue.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 5: And to your point about how true alchemy had to
Speaker 5: be done at a certain time of year, right, that's
Speaker 5: actually documented a few times over. More famously, Mary the
Speaker 5: Jewis who was seen as the mother of alchemy. She
Speaker 5: if you look at her books, she talks a lot
Speaker 5: about alchemy and distillation, and she's actually the person who
Speaker 5: invented the double boy.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: She believed that you had to do true alchemy in
Speaker 5: a specific time of year, which is around March to April.
Speaker 5: She also believed that if you weren't doing it in Hebrew,
Speaker 5: then you were not practicing real alchemy. And they had
Speaker 5: a lot of rules and like, for lack of better words,
Speaker 5: regulations on how to do alchemy rather than just you know,
Speaker 5: fumbling around in the dark to try to figure some
Speaker 5: shit out.
Speaker 3: And prayer, there was altars and prayer in the Bible,
Speaker 3: and like when they made remedies. They would percuss it
Speaker 3: on a bible to get the vibration and mixture. But
Speaker 3: you know, I think what they're doing is try to
Speaker 3: convince us they were cavemen because they knew where the
Speaker 3: sun is and what the sun is like. People would
Speaker 3: ask me, how did the Romans possibly know Saturn had rings?
Speaker 3: They didn't have telescopes. Well, there's case in point. They
Speaker 3: knew they saw it. People in meditation regularly do things
Speaker 3: like even people who take ayahuasca out of body experiences.
Speaker 3: So how did they know, Well, they experienced it, you know.
Speaker 5: But there's also levels to that too, right, Like the
Speaker 5: Romans were super intelligent in certain regards, but then they
Speaker 5: also were eating off of lead plates and drinking out
Speaker 5: of lead cups for centuries, and that also led to that.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that one blows. I have a hard time
Speaker 3: believing that a culture like that couldn't figure out that
Speaker 3: they were poisoning themselves.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's the same thing with Isaac Newton, right,
Speaker 5: he was one of the biggest and most genius people
Speaker 5: of his day and age. He was doing real alchemy
Speaker 5: and he was a polymath, and all this die from
Speaker 5: drinking mercury like, I mean, they were very intelligent in
Speaker 5: certain regards, but then there were other things that they
Speaker 5: were completely completely off the beaten trail and was like, yo,
Speaker 5: you you kind of screwed up a little bit here, bro.
Speaker 4: But that's the thing. It's like life.
Speaker 5: Existence is a journey, and we're all trying to gain
Speaker 5: as much knowledge as we can with the limited scope
Speaker 5: that we have available to us.
Speaker 3: Well said, he doesn't help when the information sources are
Speaker 3: all scuttled.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta, you know, start doing your own research.
Speaker 2: And you know, it was a couple of years ago
Speaker 2: they said that it was dangerous to do your own research,
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Speaker 3: So so is carrot juice and let us juice dangerous junction?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, Growth, I know you're out of time here, man.
Speaker 2: We really appreciate you coming to hang out with us today.
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Speaker 2: Bye bye, y'all, doo too. All right, what a conversation that,
Speaker 2: you know what. I've been listening to Crow long before
Speaker 2: I was even podcasting, and just love the research. He's
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Speaker 2: And I love that kind of mentality.
Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 4: One hundred percent.
Speaker 5: I mean fascinating guy, fascinating conversation through and through for
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Speaker 5: And while we're also just giving each other the shameless plug, Jonathan,
Speaker 5: you go live on Metamistics how often once a week
Speaker 5: are you doing twice a week?
Speaker 4: Now, what's the deal?
Speaker 2: That is once a week every Wednesday night at nine
Speaker 2: pm Central and uh man, we had a crazy conversation
Speaker 2: last night. This guy basically does his version of CE five,
Speaker 2: goes out in the desert and calls upon the orbs,
Speaker 2: the aliens or whatever he's he's said that he was
Speaker 2: able to get a lot of great footage and even
Speaker 2: some still frames of what is going on around him.
Speaker 2: This guy said that there was an orb that came
Speaker 2: down as he's out there in the desert, I think
Speaker 2: New Mexico or something like that, and this thing was
Speaker 2: like it it almost grazed against his face. It was
Speaker 2: less than a foot away from him, right like crazy experiences. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And he said, well.
Speaker 5: See, under the influence of any type of hallucinogenic for
Speaker 5: this CE five experience.
Speaker 2: He's against them. He doesn't like psychedelics at all. He's
Speaker 2: just you know, as far as he's he said that
Speaker 2: he's a space scientist, and you know, you get there
Speaker 2: basically by putting yourself into a meditative state and somehow
Speaker 2: you're able to communicate with these things. The way that
Speaker 2: he broke it down was wild. I mean, I've never
Speaker 2: heard it broken down that way before. He's actually coming
Speaker 2: from the left brain kind of logical sense of looking
Speaker 2: at what these things are. And you know, he talks
Speaker 2: about the light spectrum and you know, we're basically just
Speaker 2: some kind of frequency that we're not naturally attuned to
Speaker 2: these things. So maybe that's why we're not able to
Speaker 2: come in contact with them. We have a bunch of
Speaker 2: wild conversations like this all the time. It could be
Speaker 2: involving witchcraft or magic or you whatever, you whatever you're into.
Speaker 2: We you know, it's just metaphysical all the time, you know,
Speaker 2: And I like to say that, uh, you know, uh,
Speaker 2: we are the metamistics and we get into metaphysics, you know.
Speaker 4: So I like it. I like it.
Speaker 5: Okay, So, as he was talking about Crow, I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: as he was talking about Bledsoe and the orb situation.
Speaker 5: I know that you're a big fan of Ledse. I
Speaker 5: know you're a big fan of Crow. How did you
Speaker 5: take that or what do you think as far as
Speaker 5: his hot take on it.
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody's entitled to their opinion, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that I don't think that
Speaker 2: he was in any means like trying to discredit Chris
Speaker 2: Bledsoe whatsoever. It's just his perspective on the situation. You
Speaker 2: know how I feel about orbs. I've seen them. I
Speaker 2: don't know what the hell they are. Some people call
Speaker 2: them pleadians. Maybe they're angels, maybe they're ball light I
Speaker 2: don't buy the ball lightning thing, but there's definitely something
Speaker 2: going on up in the skies that we have no
Speaker 2: idea what they are now. As far as all of
Speaker 2: them being man made or government controlled, I don't buy
Speaker 2: that personally. And unless there's a lot of things that
Speaker 2: are happening extremely coincidentally that just cannot be understood. I
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I have a problem with
Speaker 2: that mainly. And I bring it back to the time
Speaker 2: that I went camping with the kids. You know, Like
Speaker 2: I went camping with the kids in Louisiana and didn't
Speaker 2: see any orbs or anything all night. I was hoping
Speaker 2: that I would. You know, I was out there sitting
Speaker 2: by the fire. Everybody had already gone into the tent,
Speaker 2: getting ready to go to sleep, and I was sitting
Speaker 2: by the fire and just kind of gazing into it,
Speaker 2: and I said, man, it would be so awesome. If
Speaker 2: I could just see an ORB tonight, I would you know,
Speaker 2: if anybody is out there, anybody is listening, if this
Speaker 2: is some kind of you know, video game or matrix,
Speaker 2: you should be able to hear what I'm saying right now,
Speaker 2: and just trying to like spiritually get in tuned with that.
Speaker 2: And dude, as soon as I said that, like, I
Speaker 2: shit you not, within a minute, I started seeing loads
Speaker 2: of orbs. Didn't see any all night. So either that
Speaker 2: is one strange coincidence. And then add on to the
Speaker 2: fact the kids come outside and they are coming by
Speaker 2: the dozens. It is crazy. It is like the kids
Speaker 2: are tripping out. It's one of the wildest nights ever, right,
Speaker 2: And we're trying to tell my sister, yo, come out here,
Speaker 2: come out here, look at this, and the kids are like,
Speaker 2: it's aliens, it's aliens. I'm like, I don't want that.
Speaker 2: I don't even like using the term alien. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: not alien. I don't know what it is. And my
Speaker 2: sister's like, oh, I don't believe in that, So she
Speaker 2: never would come out. Well, she ended up having to
Speaker 2: come out to go charge your phone in the car, right,
Speaker 2: and so she's sitting out obviously underneath the night sky
Speaker 2: as we're camping. She went to go charge her phone. Dude,
Speaker 2: we didn't see a single orb for like the fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes that she was out there. It was happening all
Speaker 2: the way up until that point. And then as soon
Speaker 2: as she goes back into the tent, the light show
Speaker 2: starts again. Either we are living in the like statistically
Speaker 2: coincidentally almost impossible times, or there is something really going
Speaker 2: on there. I do not believe that a man made
Speaker 2: thing would happen in that in that series of events.
Speaker 2: That's the way I look at it. Statistically not correct.
Speaker 2: It doesn't vibe with me the right way. And we
Speaker 2: were seeing them literally until we went to bed, Like
Speaker 2: we almost got tired of watching them. That's how many
Speaker 2: we were seeing, Like, there's no way of describing it.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't just coming from one part of the sky.
Speaker 2: It was coming from all parts of the sky, you know,
Speaker 2: coming from the east, coming from the west, coming from
Speaker 2: the north, the south, everywhere, dude, And so I don't know.
Speaker 2: And then you know, just whenever we went to Brohemian
Speaker 2: Grove out in Florida just a few months ago, enough
Speaker 2: said Steph was out there with us and me and
Speaker 2: Steph where we walked outside and and we saw some
Speaker 2: shit again, same thing, same.
Speaker 4: Exact orb for a lack of a better.
Speaker 2: Word type situation. Maybe it's balls of consciousness. Maybe these
Speaker 2: are alien vehicles, Maybe these are angels. Maybe these are
Speaker 2: fucking demons that are deceiving us. Something is going on
Speaker 2: in the sky that is not being talked about by
Speaker 2: mainstream And to say that it is just man made
Speaker 2: I understand where he's coming from, because we have to
Speaker 2: have such a healthy distrust of our government and of
Speaker 2: the government's omissions about the technology that they have. There's
Speaker 2: no doubt about that. Like it is, it's unfathomable, unfathomable
Speaker 2: to believe that, like we know exactly what kind of
Speaker 2: technology that the government has, especially militarily, right.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm with you and the things over New Jersey.
Speaker 5: I said it then, and I still do believe that
Speaker 5: that was mostly drones, some most stroke or tiled technology things.
Speaker 4: But so you're open to it.
Speaker 2: And a percentage of them being orbs, at least not
Speaker 2: in New Jersey.
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 5: I'm willing to accept that what Bledsoe is seeing is
Speaker 5: not man made technology. What you saw in your camping trip,
Speaker 5: what your guy who you just had on talking about
Speaker 5: the CE five experiences. I am absolutely willing to accept
Speaker 5: that that's not some sort of advanced military tech.
Speaker 2: And I'm not I'm not even putting a name on it.
Speaker 2: I just don't know what it is.
Speaker 5: Right, I'm comfortable at least putting the X factor on
Speaker 5: that kind of shit, but especially if it's something that
Speaker 5: makes the news.
Speaker 4: I don't know about that. Now.
Speaker 5: That being said, I wish he would have stayed on
Speaker 5: longer because I would have asked him about this uh
Speaker 5: uap that got smoked with a hell fire missile and
Speaker 5: just kept on going.
Speaker 4: I would have loved to have heard Crow's take on that.
Speaker 2: Dude, saw the half.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's no way that that was human tech,
Speaker 5: No way, no way. And I mean, even if it
Speaker 5: was right, even if and I'm trying, dude, I'm trying real,
Speaker 5: real hard with my imagination to come up with an
Speaker 5: idea of all right, so let's say this was a
Speaker 5: new type of craft, not going to call a drone
Speaker 5: or manned or whatever, just a type of craft that
Speaker 5: is able to withstand getting hit with a hell fire. Bro,
Speaker 5: have you ever seen what it looks like when a
Speaker 5: hellfire it makes impact.
Speaker 4: With an object.
Speaker 5: No, I don't think so, okay, I'm gonna look up
Speaker 5: a quick video here. It's not something that anything that
Speaker 5: we have in our arsenal is gonna just shake off
Speaker 5: by any means.
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's a missile, isn't it. Yeah, dude, if,
Speaker 2: first of all, who came up with the bright idea
Speaker 2: that we're gonna send a missile at what seems to
Speaker 2: be a fucking translucent object in the sky looking like
Speaker 2: fucking Glinda the Goodwitch floating down in a fucking bubble?
Speaker 2: You want to launch a missile at that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I don't understand it personally, you know what? All right,
Speaker 5: I got a quick video here. It's from military dot Com.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go ahead and share the screens at this time,
Speaker 5: and let's just watch something. And I've never seen this
Speaker 5: video before, so if this is uh not the best
Speaker 5: version of what we're looking.
Speaker 4: For, then fine, fine, I'll pull up something else.
Speaker 5: But here we go Military dot and this is all
Speaker 5: about hellfire missiles.
Speaker 4: Let's watch this.
Speaker 6: Kelly targeted tracking later you're good them out?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, bail.
Speaker 5: The first operational Hellfire missiles were delivered in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 5: Each hellfire missile includes guidance, steering, control, and propulsion systems.
Speaker 6: Over the can out.
Speaker 4: They're now walking a web out to deal the web
Speaker 4: can out.
Speaker 5: So I mean you're seeing these things make impact with boats,
Speaker 5: with tanks, with other craft.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 5: That is not a little something they know little pop
Speaker 5: Healthfire missiles can be fired for more than twenty different vehicles.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they made it pretty traversible.
Speaker 2: Also, I just want to say this too, how about
Speaker 2: the idea that these orbs would be somewhat for lack
Speaker 2: of a better term, conscious beings right, Because if you
Speaker 2: think about it, this hellfire missile, let's say, I mean,
Speaker 2: if it is just an orb out there in the sky,
Speaker 2: a hellfire missile shooting that way, if it was to
Speaker 2: just go right through it, that missile would have struck
Speaker 2: something right, that would have landed somewhere and fucked up something.
Speaker 5: I'm glad you said this. These are not ethereal things.
Speaker 5: This is not some interdimensional thing that doesn't fit neatly
Speaker 5: with none of there is a physical object that did
Speaker 5: get hit by a hellfire.
Speaker 2: It literally just shrugged it off from what I saw.
Speaker 2: It's split it in half. It was hard to see
Speaker 2: in the video.
Speaker 4: It made phit contact though, is my point?
Speaker 2: I mean, it couldn't doesn't even necessarily have to be
Speaker 2: physical contact. It could be some kind of fucking vibrational
Speaker 2: field that would emulate some kind of physical contact.
Speaker 5: Ah from the video that I'm looking at, Bro, you
Speaker 5: know what, Let's play it here. This is a quick
Speaker 5: video of the of the events that took place. The
Speaker 5: thing looks like it did get impacted. Now, it didn't
Speaker 5: like it didn't.
Speaker 4: Shift gears behind, mean it did.
Speaker 5: You could see it move like the craft didn't just
Speaker 5: keep on going like it didn't even have anything touch it.
Speaker 5: And then they had these three little things break off
Speaker 5: of it. But then they continued following it with it.
Speaker 5: But even still, Let's watch this.
Speaker 7: That I've been given and as before it starts, I'm
Speaker 7: going to describe. This was taken October thirtieth of twenty
Speaker 7: twenty four. This video is of an MQ nine drone
Speaker 7: tracking an orb or this object off the coast of Yemen.
Speaker 7: You'll see that another m Q nine launched a hellfire missile.
Speaker 8: You cannot see that drone.
Speaker 7: And so you'll and I'm not going to explain it
Speaker 7: to you.
Speaker 8: You'll see exactly what it does.
Speaker 4: So it's moving, got you, got you?
Speaker 2: All right? So what they have targeted, that's the that's
Speaker 2: the ORB or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the ORB.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: It's crazy how they're able to lock in on something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 5: Our technology is pretty insane, bro, same way they're able
Speaker 5: to lock in on a jet. Now you see how
Speaker 5: like it did move and it tumbled a bit, and
Speaker 5: he had these three things break off of it, but
Speaker 5: they kept moving too.
Speaker 2: Hold on, go back cause I alight, all right, positively there?
Speaker 2: All right, where is the ORB?
Speaker 4: Now? This is the ORB.
Speaker 5: These are three things that broke off the backside of it,
Speaker 5: but still continue. They don't like tumble off into the ocean.
Speaker 5: This entire thing continued to move.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, hit play again.
Speaker 5: And if anything, they stabilized and continued with it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Look they're going to show another angle of it
Speaker 4: from a little wider.
Speaker 7: This is when it zoomed out. You can still see
Speaker 7: it traveling, so.
Speaker 4: You see how it got hit.
Speaker 5: It did make impact, and it did shift it a bit,
Speaker 5: It tumbled a bit in the air, but then it
Speaker 5: just kept on going like.
Speaker 3: Right, So.
Speaker 7: Mister Knapp do you have any have you heard about.
Speaker 8: You know, events like this occurring? What information might you have?
Speaker 6: I have heard about events like this. I have heard
Speaker 6: about this event. Jeremy Corbela and I talked about it
Speaker 6: in one of our episodes a while back.
Speaker 4: We did not have the video, though. There are servers
Speaker 4: where there's a.
Speaker 6: Whole bank of these kind of videos that Congress has
Speaker 6: not been allowed to see that public hasn't been allowed
Speaker 6: to see. Occasionally, some of that stuff gets out in
Speaker 6: the wild and it comes our way. It should be
Speaker 6: going to you. You know, the public should be seeing
Speaker 6: this stuff. And why you're not allowed to I don't know.
Speaker 6: But that's a hell fire missile smacking into that UFO
Speaker 6: and just bounce right off and they kept going.
Speaker 8: It kept going, and it looks like the debris was
Speaker 8: taken with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what the hell is that?
Speaker 7: So it was again, I'm not going to speculate what
Speaker 7: it is, but the question is, what, you know, why
Speaker 7: are we being blocked from this information?
Speaker 5: I mean, I agree with that, but you see what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. It's not like it didn't make impact. The
Speaker 5: hellfire missile did physically impact a physical object. Now, this
Speaker 5: kind of goes into the realm of well, what are
Speaker 5: these orbs? Are they something air dimensional? And it's more
Speaker 5: like a thought form. I personally don't think so. I
Speaker 5: believe these are physical things that you could potentially touch.
Speaker 5: At least we just washed a hell fire touch one.
Speaker 2: First of all, if anybody was there that night and
Speaker 2: able to see that, your boy that was just speaking
Speaker 2: right there with the fucking telescope bifocals, those things are
Speaker 2: bubbles thick, you know what I'm saying. Did you see
Speaker 2: his glasses?
Speaker 5: Yeah, your boy's looking he could pretty much see the
Speaker 5: future through this thing. It's like, for real, looking like
Speaker 5: fucking bubbles out there, and all right.
Speaker 2: Macgoty's cords worker. Yeah, that's I wish that we knew.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: That's such shitty video. And I get that it has
Speaker 2: to be because it's like radar or whatever, but like
Speaker 2: you can't see exactly what it is.
Speaker 4: So is it a see a stumble? You could see
Speaker 4: it move in some way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's from a distance, you know, and it's
Speaker 2: hard to see determine, Like is that a disc? Is
Speaker 2: that a tic tac? Is that an orb? You know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like, so hear me out right. If you look at
Speaker 4: the size of the hell fire.
Speaker 5: You saw the dudes loading a hellfire onto the plane, right,
Speaker 5: the thing is maybe three foot long.
Speaker 2: Get pretty style, Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then you see the size of this orb in relation.
Speaker 5: It was only slightly bigger than the hell fire as
Speaker 5: far as length goes. This wasn't like the size of
Speaker 5: a hueye. It wasn't the size of a of a
Speaker 5: suburban by any means. This was relatively small by comparison
Speaker 5: as far as an ORB goes.
Speaker 4: It was moving very quick the hell fire hit it.
Speaker 5: Now, we also saw on the video what it looks
Speaker 5: like when a hell fire strikes a tank, what it
Speaker 5: looks like when it strikes a boat, what it looks
Speaker 5: like when it strikes a stationary target, whatever the case.
Speaker 5: Bro destruction for destruction absolute like not you know, decimation it.
Speaker 5: It's not going to leave it in like a little
Speaker 5: one inch squares by any means, but it's tearing it
Speaker 5: the fuck up.
Speaker 4: Nobody's surviving this.
Speaker 5: This piece of equipment's not going to be functional after this.
Speaker 5: This ORB continued after the fact and kept going and
Speaker 5: they lost sight of it. It didn't like fall into the
Speaker 5: ocean and the debris that broke off from it also
Speaker 5: followed it. So like whatever this was, it was all
Speaker 5: encompassing enough. Could you imagine getting in a car wreck
Speaker 5: and you like drop your bumper, but you drive off
Speaker 5: and your bumper just follows behind you.
Speaker 2: No, I can't. That's insane, that's I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: get that, dude. It's almost like I mean, but the
Speaker 2: other people have talked about like how the this is
Speaker 2: going to be a little out there. But I've heard
Speaker 2: it mentioned more than once that the crafts themselves are
Speaker 2: almost connected consciously to the individuals, that maybe they are
Speaker 2: like biologically advanced, like it's almost like electronically biologically all connected.
Speaker 5: Who knows, it's very possible. I have no, very possible
Speaker 5: that these things are controlled. Let's say that the orbs
Speaker 5: are something like what we might call a drone. There's
Speaker 5: no pilot actually operating it. It's piloted off of you
Speaker 5: might say a telepathic network, we might say a computer
Speaker 5: system that's guiding it, whatever the case.
Speaker 4: Whatever the case, it's.
Speaker 5: Not actually being piloted by a living entity within the craft.
Speaker 5: That would also make sense that if it got hit,
Speaker 5: it's still being controlled by a controller somewhere that's making
Speaker 5: it continue on like nothing happen.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: But also here's the thing. Hellfire missiles can't lock onto
Speaker 5: non objects. For a hell Fire to lock onto the
Speaker 5: orb means that it had to be able to be registered.
Speaker 4: Right. It was a physical thing.
Speaker 5: It's not like you're gonna, oh, well, it's moonlight being
Speaker 5: reflected through swamp gas off of Venus's retrograde that day,
Speaker 5: and that's what sent the hellfire able to hit this
Speaker 5: thing that wasn't actually there, Like it was more of
Speaker 5: a mirage kind of thing. That's incorrect. A hell Fire
Speaker 5: can't be shot at the ethereal unknown. It has to
Speaker 5: be locked onto a physical object that's able to radar
Speaker 5: and like be popped up on. You see what I'm saying, So,
Speaker 5: like the orbs themselves are physical entities.
Speaker 2: I just looked this up. The AGM DASH one one
Speaker 2: four hellfire missile can lock onto a target using either
Speaker 2: semi active laser guidance or millimeter wave radar guidance, depending
Speaker 2: on the variant. The Longbow hell Fire, for example, is
Speaker 2: capable of locking onto targets after launch, allowing it to
Speaker 2: engage without needing a direct line of sight. Okay, that
Speaker 2: is interesting that they mentioned that, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: you're you're using lasers to lock on and millimeter wave
Speaker 2: radar guidance to lock on.
Speaker 4: That's my point.
Speaker 5: So they said that this whole the images that we've
Speaker 5: seen that are making their rounds in the media right now,
Speaker 5: that was from a drone that didn't shoot the missile,
Speaker 5: right that was a drone that was just observing it.
Speaker 5: It's very possible that that had the laser lock on
Speaker 5: it and that it was following it. It was like
Speaker 5: trailing it with a laser so that the other one
Speaker 5: could make the shot. I could imagine that. But that's
Speaker 5: my point. You can't lock a laser onto light. You
Speaker 5: have to lock a laser onto a physical, three dimensional
Speaker 5: hard object.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to find that out.
Speaker 4: Actually, And if it was a radar system.
Speaker 5: This the way radar works is it sends waves and
Speaker 5: then they the waves get sent back and the computer
Speaker 5: register is the amount of time it took to read
Speaker 5: them back and that tells them distance and based off
Speaker 5: of other things, they could also tell what the object is, size, speed,
Speaker 5: things like that. So either way you want to slice
Speaker 5: that one, whether it was by laser or by radar.
Speaker 5: It had to be locked onto a physical object, something
Speaker 5: that you could walk up and knock on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is from chat GBT four to Zho from
Speaker 2: dug duck go, And I said, can a health fire
Speaker 2: missile lock onto something non physical? It said, A hellfire
Speaker 2: missile is designed to lock onto physical targets, typically using
Speaker 2: a combination of laser guidance, infrared homing, or GPS. It
Speaker 2: relies on the presence of a physical object to reflect
Speaker 2: signals or emit heat that the missile can detect and track.
Speaker 2: Since a non physical target lacks these characteristics, a hellfire
Speaker 2: missile cannot lock onto it. Non physical entities such as
Speaker 2: digital data or abstract concepts do not produce the necessary
Speaker 2: signals or heat signatures for the missiles guidance systems to function. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: the orb had to have been real, and it has
Speaker 2: to be a tangible target.
Speaker 5: And so this is this is what I've been saying
Speaker 5: for a while. As far as what the orbs are,
Speaker 5: I don't know. I believe that they very well might
Speaker 5: be from somewhere outside of our planet, somewhere outside of
Speaker 5: our solar system, our galaxy.
Speaker 4: I I don't know.
Speaker 5: Right, sky's a limit, but I do believe that they
Speaker 5: are real, and I believe that they are physical, not ethereal.
Speaker 2: Well, there's no way of knowing, you know, like hell
Speaker 2: Fire just proved it. Well, the hell Fire proved that
Speaker 2: it hit an object, didn't prove that it hit necessarily
Speaker 2: an ORB. So to say that's literally what it was, dude, No,
Speaker 2: it wasn't.
Speaker 4: That's what.
Speaker 5: Do we need to replay the news clip where they're
Speaker 5: talking about in orb a UAP ORB style that it
Speaker 5: just hit.
Speaker 2: It said ORB. I heard UAPs.
Speaker 5: Yes, I will share this green again and we will
Speaker 5: replay it because I don't want to talk out of
Speaker 5: turn either on this.
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and replay this a.
Speaker 7: Video that I've been given and as before it starts,
Speaker 7: I'm going to describe. This was taken October thirtieth of
Speaker 7: twenty twenty four. This video is of an MQ nine
Speaker 7: drone tracking an ORB or this object off the coast
Speaker 7: of Yemen or this you'll see that another m Q nine.
Speaker 2: It said tracking an ORB or this object. He didn't.
Speaker 2: He didn't even know exactly what it was. And even
Speaker 2: in the in the in the title, it says that
Speaker 2: it was tracking a track tracking a UFO. What I'm
Speaker 2: saying is, I don't know what all the capabilities are
Speaker 2: of a of an orb. I'm not even saying that
Speaker 2: there's no way that they could be some kind of
Speaker 2: physical thing. I mean, it very well could be like
Speaker 2: fucking ditto the Pokemon that can just transform into whatever
Speaker 2: the fuck it wants. I have no idea, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I I think that it would be crazy
Speaker 2: to just think that they're just like ethereal air pockets.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that just.
Speaker 5: Holograms or anything like that either. No, I don't think
Speaker 5: so were going to a hologram. No, I agree. So
Speaker 5: it's just something we don't have words for. There's no
Speaker 5: way to describe it. We've never gotten one necessarily up close,
Speaker 5: you know. And well you your boy with the CE
Speaker 5: five experiences, and he said one flew by his head
Speaker 5: within a foot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what did he say?
Speaker 5: Did he say that these were not really there and
Speaker 5: it was just like a projection in his mind or
Speaker 5: did he feel like this was a physical thing? You
Speaker 5: said he was more of the left brain logical side.
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't look at him like they're at least
Speaker 2: the things that he's coming in contact with. He did
Speaker 2: not look at him like they're physical at all. He
Speaker 2: believes that they're somewhat like, yeah, it's gonna sound crazy.
Speaker 2: He believes that they're actually like alien consciousnesses and almost
Speaker 2: like a I don't even want to say a projection,
Speaker 2: because I don't even think that that's what it is,
Speaker 2: but that it's something that it's almost like a I
Speaker 2: can't even put words to it. I don't know what
Speaker 2: the fuck it is, you know, but we just.
Speaker 5: Solved the hell fire striking. It would say that that
Speaker 5: is incorrect.
Speaker 2: But if we're talking about two of the same thing, fair,
Speaker 2: you know, we don't know if it could be apples
Speaker 2: and oranges.
Speaker 5: Could be I mean, I don't know, so I mean,
Speaker 5: and video is from twenty twenty four October of twenty
Speaker 5: twenty four, damn near a year ago, and it is
Speaker 5: just now making its way into the public zeitgeist.
Speaker 4: That's the other issue I have with it.
Speaker 2: That was the same time and then that the New
Speaker 2: Jersey orbs were happening, But this is off the coast
Speaker 2: of Yemen, just saying same time in the world.
Speaker 5: It is indeed, But then they also have acknowledged not
Speaker 5: just they being the government, I mean, like the laboratory
Speaker 5: that was working on these drones that had like eight
Speaker 5: propellers on them and were able to fly for eight
Speaker 5: hours and all of these things. They were trying to
Speaker 5: keep it hush hush, because no one else on earth
Speaker 5: has a drone with the capability of staying in flight
Speaker 5: for six to eight hours and going the distance that
Speaker 5: it does. America just be building shit. That's what we
Speaker 5: do as far as military tech is concerned. So they
Speaker 5: were kind of leaving it into the zeitgeist of like, oh,
Speaker 5: we don't know what it is. But every politician, Republican, Democrat, independent,
Speaker 5: didn't matter, all of them gave the same answer. You
Speaker 5: remember that the fact that there was bipartisan agreement is
Speaker 5: typically a massive red flag. And they were all like, oh,
Speaker 5: those things, I don't worry about them. Are they from you? No, No,
Speaker 5: they're not American. Or are they from the enemy. No,
Speaker 5: we know for sure they're not from the enemy. Well
Speaker 5: then what are they? Well, we don't know, but they're
Speaker 5: nothing to worry about. Out loud, none of what you
Speaker 5: just said made sense.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I don't know, and I can't say any
Speaker 2: anything one way or another. All I seen was videos.
Speaker 2: It's not like I fucking drove or flew up to
Speaker 2: New Jersey to be able to see it with my
Speaker 2: own eyes anything.
Speaker 5: We can't even trust half the video most of the
Speaker 5: videos we get anymore.
Speaker 4: Especially with the way AI is these days.
Speaker 2: So I mean, hell right, Ryan, dude, there's actually whoa
Speaker 2: hold up? Oh like that like that video? Hold up,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, so I may write.
Speaker 4: I fucking love that guy. He's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Uh, this is actually New Jersey orbs dot com.
Speaker 5: Of course, there's a website dedicated to.
Speaker 2: Them, documenting documenting the Garden State's most mysterious phenomena. Oh
Speaker 2: breaking news. Giant mothership orbs spotted above Parkway. Smaller orbs
Speaker 2: emerging from larger ones in fractal patterns orb activity causing
Speaker 2: widespread it's like widespread electrical problems, it seemed anyway, It's
Speaker 2: it's like a rolling thing anyway, it says. Since the
Speaker 2: Great Hoboken orb incident of December twenty twenty four, when
Speaker 2: a colossal sphere appeared above the train terminal and split
Speaker 2: into thousands of smaller orbs, our dedicated team of researchers
Speaker 2: has been tracking these unprecedented luminous phenomena across New Jersey.
Speaker 2: ORB sightings have increased by and the number literally keeps
Speaker 2: going up. You see it, Yeah, increased December of last year,
Speaker 2: so that video is from October. That's interesting, right, I
Speaker 2: mean within the same few months, though, it has increased
Speaker 2: by a number that keeps on going up since you
Speaker 2: started reading this. Oh, that's why it does that, with
Speaker 2: each sphere displaying increasingly complex behavior patterns, from the mysterious
Speaker 2: hovering orbs that emit impossible wavelengths of light to the
Speaker 2: synchronized spheres performing mathematical dances in the sky. We're here
Speaker 2: to document and study these inexplicable entities that have made
Speaker 2: New Jersey the epicenter of unexplained spherical phenomena in our dimension.
Speaker 5: And so you're telling me that there's that many people
Speaker 5: that are all reporting this into this website during daylight
Speaker 5: when you couldn't see these orbs unless it was at night,
Speaker 5: all right, I'm finding that a bit incredulous.
Speaker 2: Well, people have spot on them during the daylight. It's
Speaker 2: just harder to see them during the daylight.
Speaker 4: Dude. Look at how many of them keep popping up
Speaker 4: and moving.
Speaker 5: This are we sure that this website is not of
Speaker 5: the Well, let's read.
Speaker 2: The recent confirmed sightings. Aubrey or Asberry Park Boardwalk, December nineteenth,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Cluster of luminous orbs observe merging into
Speaker 2: one giant sphere, pulsing with impossible colors. Witnesses report time
Speaker 2: moving backwards within fifty feet of the phenomena.
Speaker 4: Holy shit, time moving backwards?
Speaker 2: Oh man, well, I mean, what is your clock going backwards?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 4: I must say? How does somebody even like, wait what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 2: You hear about like crazy time anomalies anytime there's UFO activity.
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, this is somebody's somebody's you know, experience,
Speaker 2: it says Pine in Pine Barrens, December eighteenth seven. Perfectly
Speaker 2: synchronized orbs per performing geometric patterns in the night sky.
Speaker 2: Each rotation caused nearby compasses to spin and phones to
Speaker 2: display messages in binary Oh if that's real, dude, come.
Speaker 5: On the compasses doing crazy things. Okay, that's a simple magnet.
Speaker 5: I mean, if you hold a piece of metal too
Speaker 5: close to a compass, it'll make a do wild thing.
Speaker 5: So like I could see that phone's displaying messages in binary.
Speaker 5: Now we're getting into a different conversation, but I mean
Speaker 5: it goes back to the whole Rendall sham Forest conversation.
Speaker 5: That guy got this crazy code and binary and then
Speaker 5: deciphered it. But then the more you ask about it,
Speaker 5: the more the message changes, and it's like, well, if
Speaker 5: you wrote all this binary down, that's something that doesn't change.
Speaker 4: So like what, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do want to say this. I know
Speaker 2: that this might seem silly to a lot of people
Speaker 2: because it's newer. You know, it hasn't really been poked
Speaker 2: and prodded as much. A lot of people are trying
Speaker 2: to sweep in under the rug. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: that hashtag orbs got banned off of social media during
Speaker 2: this time because every like hundreds of thousands of people
Speaker 2: were talking about it, and a lot of it is
Speaker 2: going to seem like, oh, that's not real, that's you know,
Speaker 2: spoofy or whatever. But and I'm not saying that this
Speaker 2: absolutely is. I have no idea, but I do want
Speaker 2: to say that most people under every single UFO sighting
Speaker 2: ever in history, thought that it was all stupid, and
Speaker 2: now people are coming around to the idea that it
Speaker 2: could be real. I mean, we talk about Roswell, how
Speaker 2: many people disagreed with that. Literally for decades they said,
Speaker 2: there's no way that aliens exist, the phoenix lights, people
Speaker 2: swept under the rug. Some people nowadays still sweeping underneath
Speaker 2: the rug. All these crazy UFO experiences, and it's almost
Speaker 2: like time has allowed them to allowed their thoughts in
Speaker 2: their mind to coagulate a little bit, to be able
Speaker 2: to almost materialize in their mind as a possibility. So
Speaker 2: I don't want people to just easily dismiss this, this
Speaker 2: kind of stuff that happened, you know, less than a
Speaker 2: year ago, just because it happened less than a year ago.
Speaker 5: Oh No, I mean, like we're saying, the orb conversation
Speaker 5: in and of itself is a fascinating one, right. There
Speaker 5: is the flying tic type variety, there is the triangle
Speaker 5: of lights in the sky, there is the orbs in
Speaker 5: the sky. There's all these different types of UFOs and
Speaker 5: UAPs that people have been seeing in spotting for decades.
Speaker 5: But to your point, only since the possibly late nineties
Speaker 5: to early two thousands did it become really not even
Speaker 5: just like cool to say that you had a UFO experience,
Speaker 5: but it became more widely accepted. You no longer were
Speaker 5: being seen as a crazy person. You were seen as like, yeah,
Speaker 5: the people would look at it with a healthy dose
Speaker 5: of skepticism.
Speaker 4: Fine, that's fair.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, more and more of these
Speaker 5: things started happening, more and more reports started coming in.
Speaker 5: Everybody started carrying phones with professional grade cameras on them,
Speaker 5: and they could actually take videos of what they were seeing,
Speaker 5: and it was a lot harder to dispel a story
Speaker 5: that somebody had whenever they had literal video evidence to
Speaker 5: back up their claims. So I'm not saying that it
Speaker 5: was something that we need to sidestep like it's not real.
Speaker 5: I'm saying there's probably multiple things happening at the same time. I,
Speaker 5: for one, believe in the orbs, but I also believe
Speaker 5: that it's something more along the lines of a real
Speaker 5: UFO or UAP.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it says down at the bottom of
Speaker 2: their page. Notice the end r I is not responsible
Speaker 2: for any temporal displacement, spontaneous levitation, or sudden ability to
Speaker 2: perceive additional geometric dimensions following ORB encounters. If you begin
Speaker 2: if you begin to see spheres within spheres within spheres,
Speaker 2: please contact our emergency hotline immediately. They have an emergency
Speaker 2: hotline I.
Speaker 4: Have for one now, believe this is a spoof website.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: This website is not responsible for interdimensional or intervention or
Speaker 5: levitation or what like.
Speaker 2: Bro, what I do I'm telling you? Let me tell you.
Speaker 2: You don't play around in this field like I do.
Speaker 2: I'm around, I'm around all these kinds of people. My
Speaker 2: algorithm on all my social media's are bombarding me with
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff mainly because you know, I like
Speaker 2: it and I pay attention to it and just out
Speaker 2: of curiosity more than anything. These people are real, bro,
Speaker 2: There's no like, this is not a shoot website.
Speaker 5: Okay, call the number you got your phone on you
Speaker 5: let's call the num or in real time here on
Speaker 5: this episode that the hotline, and let's see what answers.
Speaker 5: I have a weird feeling that it's like the uh oh,
Speaker 5: what's that old one that was basically if you called it,
Speaker 5: it was basically telling you that Hi, if you are
Speaker 5: calling this number, it's because the person gave you this
Speaker 5: number on purpose because they don't like you and they
Speaker 5: didn't want you to have their real number.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's because you smell funny, Maybe it's because you
Speaker 5: look funny. Maybe it's because you gave them the creeps.
Speaker 5: Whatever it is, you need to take that information and
Speaker 5: try to improve yourself have a great day. I don't know,
Speaker 5: but I have a weird feeling it's going to be something.
Speaker 4: Close to that.
Speaker 2: Let's see here for a second.
Speaker 5: I'm if you or this website is not responsible for
Speaker 5: interdimensional site or levitation, Like, no one thinks this website
Speaker 5: is responsible for Why would you put that on?
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think that. Yeah, if you look at
Speaker 2: the number five five five, bro, they're.
Speaker 4: Literally just that.
Speaker 5: Well, you don't play around in these fields, Yeah you do.
Speaker 5: You absolutely do people be fucking around.
Speaker 2: No, no, No, What I said was is that you don't
Speaker 2: play around in this same field that I'm always in,
Speaker 2: like because you don't believe most of it. What I'm
Speaker 2: saying is that I'm always around this kind of shit.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it might be, it might be
Speaker 2: a smooth thing. Now I'm looking at the fucking phone
Speaker 2: number five five five. That's a every movie has a
Speaker 2: five five five number, and I just looked it up.
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, is there an area code
Speaker 2: with a five five five, and it says the five
Speaker 2: five to five area code is primarily used for fictitious
Speaker 2: telephone numbers in North American movies, television shows, and so on.
Speaker 5: So yeah, once again, if you look, just why did
Speaker 5: it take that for you to see that this was
Speaker 5: a spoof website?
Speaker 4: Look at the map the real time ORB tracker.
Speaker 5: Look how fast multiple are popping up, how fast they're
Speaker 5: moving across state lines. You're telling me that somebody they
Speaker 5: have that many eyewitnesses during the daylight that are reporting this.
Speaker 4: Obviously, this website's bullshit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is a bullshit website.
Speaker 4: It's crazy that it took that much for you to
Speaker 4: see that. Brother, mm mm mm mmmm.
Speaker 2: How don't you want to.
Speaker 4: See what we're talking about?
Speaker 5: Go to Patreon that the website itself, it's funny, it's dope.
Speaker 5: And I mean they had pictures of like real sightings
Speaker 5: over Hoboken and over these things from when these orbs
Speaker 5: and drones were being more heavily seen last year.
Speaker 2: But yeah, old on hold the actual phone. Are you
Speaker 2: gonna scent? You're gonna stand there and tell me, like
Speaker 2: fucking Joe dirt, You're gonna sit there and say that
Speaker 2: I can't believe it took you so long to catch
Speaker 2: on to that. I just want you to look at
Speaker 2: the scope of what we're talking about. We're talking about orbs.
Speaker 2: We just saw a video and plenty of other videos
Speaker 2: of actual orbs. So there's never been something that you
Speaker 2: fully believe that you only had half the evidence and
Speaker 2: then kind of filled in the blanks with the rest.
Speaker 5: No, one hundred percent, But also just looking at the
Speaker 5: website and some of the things the live tracker map
Speaker 5: right off the rip told me that this website was bullshit.
Speaker 5: The quote at the bottom about if you see interdimensional
Speaker 5: things or levitation, this website's not responsible for it. If
Speaker 5: that confirmed that it was bullshit before I even saw
Speaker 5: what the number was. I'm just saying a little bit
Speaker 5: of healthy skepticism and a decent dose of reality would
Speaker 5: go a long way. As I'm saying that I do
Speaker 5: believe in the orbs. We just saw the video of
Speaker 5: the hell fire all that. I'm not saying that every
Speaker 5: ORB siting is bullshit. I am saying that there are
Speaker 5: a lot of people out there that are doing things
Speaker 5: just for the lulls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Unfortunately, I think this one is just just for
Speaker 2: shits and gigs. I kind of want to call the
Speaker 2: phone number.
Speaker 4: Why the fuck not, you know, just to see what happens.
Speaker 5: And hey, if it is real, you had an ORB
Speaker 5: siding on a camping trip, did you not?
Speaker 4: I did, so why not report it?
Speaker 2: Here we go, let's see you're calling.
Speaker 4: Please chant the number and dial again.
Speaker 2: Shocker, damn A. You know, I try and I try
Speaker 2: and be a vessel of light for these kinds of things,
Speaker 2: and it's shit like that that just like damn, why
Speaker 2: why can't people take things serious?
Speaker 5: You know, because dude, and see, I try to be
Speaker 5: a vessel of truth as far as I can be.
Speaker 5: I understand that I'm not bad in a thousand by
Speaker 5: any means. I've been wrong before, but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: I mean that we do need to be within the
Speaker 5: realm reality. Our heads do need to be in the clouds,
Speaker 5: we do need to have that imagination. But also our
Speaker 5: feet do need to be planted on the ground. This
Speaker 5: is the dichotomy that makes you and I and our
Speaker 5: friendship what it is.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 2: I got God on that one. No, I mean, hey, look,
Speaker 2: I can tell I'm I'm man enough to say that
Speaker 2: I got God on something. It's not. This doesn't That
Speaker 2: doesn't disprove all ORB things by any meaning.
Speaker 4: This does not negate the new Jersey ORB sightings.
Speaker 5: It does not negate the the hell fire strike of
Speaker 5: the ORB that took place. It does not negate the
Speaker 5: experiences of your CE five guy that you just had
Speaker 5: on the show last night. It this doesn't negate any
Speaker 5: of that. That website was just a bit of a spoof.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shame on them, bitches.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: I mean whatever. It could just been out of the
Speaker 2: fun and joy of their heart, or probably somebody like you,
Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, that like sees all the
Speaker 2: people that take it serious and you're like, let me
Speaker 2: shit on these people very quick.
Speaker 4: You would do.
Speaker 5: Something like that if I had, if I knew how
Speaker 5: to build a website, oh absolutely, absol fucking litly, I
Speaker 5: would do it to fuck with people, because you gotta
Speaker 5: fuck with people, bro, Life's too short to not fuck
Speaker 5: with people.
Speaker 2: Life of guard, right, gotta dig it.
Speaker 4: That being said, I have been working on my chi.
Speaker 5: I should mention that Jesus Christ and I am getting
Speaker 5: very close, dude. I'm getting close to being able to
Speaker 5: start fires with my mind. I have been able to
Speaker 5: push some things without physically touching them. I'm gonna have
Speaker 5: a video ready to drop here soon. But I didn't
Speaker 5: want to just do it half baked. I don't want
Speaker 5: to just make a piece of paper smoke a little bit.
Speaker 5: I want to be able to make some fuego happen.
Speaker 5: So don't you worry. It's gonna be dropping here soon.
Speaker 5: I might bring it up on one of the lives
Speaker 5: here soon.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, the day you do that
Speaker 2: is the day I turn water into wine.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I hope you like it and have a
Speaker 5: good vintage because it's calm.
Speaker 4: Don't you worry.
Speaker 2: I mean, you just tell me what kind of wine
Speaker 2: you want. You want some Merleau, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I want some Cabernet bro some Caneta, Yeah, some French
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I give you a little merlow, little taste of
Speaker 2: it all, dude, a little taste of the of the
Speaker 2: wine rainbow.
Speaker 4: Tell you what I've been craving lately is muscadron wine.
Speaker 2: Don't even know what that is.
Speaker 5: It is, uh like a really thick skinned grape that
Speaker 5: grows in the South, primarily Louisiana, Mississippi. Alabama kind of things, dude.
Speaker 5: It makes some of the best fucking wine on earth.
Speaker 5: And uh, matter of fact, Raven Lee has a big
Speaker 5: old grapevine in her backyard she's been growing for the
Speaker 5: past few years, and she just thought it was really
Speaker 5: thick skinned grapes and didn't know anything else about it.
Speaker 5: I was like, no, these are muscadines, and she's like,
Speaker 5: what is that because she's not from Louisiana and I
Speaker 5: showed her and she's like, oh my god. I'm like,
Speaker 5: you've never if you don't know what muscadines are, you've
Speaker 5: never had muscadine wine before.
Speaker 4: And she's like no.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, oh, oh, give me a couple of
Speaker 5: months and some of these grapes and I'm gonna produce
Speaker 5: and bangs. But anyway, but yeah, no, I'm gonna let
Speaker 5: you know. I'm not ready to just yet. My chi
Speaker 5: is not super dialed in just yet. I gotta get
Speaker 5: better with my meditation, but uh, it's gonna be happening
Speaker 5: here soon very well.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna work on my walk on water abilities while
Speaker 2: you're at.
Speaker 4: It, dude, I hope you can make that shit happen.
Speaker 4: That would be amazing. Come on, I'm.
Speaker 2: Only saying that because I know you don't. You're spoofing
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: That's what you're going you'll see with the video.
Speaker 2: You're so pull shit, man, I tell you what. No,
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna go there. I'm not going there.
Speaker 2: We're gonna wrap it up right now. Thank you good
Speaker 2: cult members for coming to hang out with us today.
Speaker 2: It was a fun episode speaking with Crow. Unfortunately he
Speaker 2: was only able to give us one hour, which is
Speaker 2: totally fine. We loved having them, you know, and we'll
Speaker 2: probably do it again another year or two from now.
Speaker 2: Very very fascinating individual. Definitely go check out his podcast,
Speaker 2: crowd Triple seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Crow, chup ver seven radio dot com.
Speaker 5: We will have the link in the description below because,
Speaker 5: like he said, he doesn't do the socials anymore. He
Speaker 5: keeps getting banned off things you can't trust with the internet,
Speaker 5: algrin are gonna do with your shit? I completely respect that,
Speaker 5: so we're gonna have the link in the description below.
Speaker 5: But I will say this, dude, the images of the
Speaker 5: sun that he has taken, I've never seen the sun
Speaker 5: photographed in that way.
Speaker 4: Before.
Speaker 5: The whole conversation about having a second son and things
Speaker 5: like I will have to take some time to really
Speaker 5: dig in on that one, but just looking at the
Speaker 5: sun for what it is and the way he was
Speaker 5: able to capture it using that version of the light spectrum,
Speaker 5: that was pretty insane.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you can't take a picture of something
Speaker 2: that's not there, you know what I mean? And that's
Speaker 2: up for interpretation. About the second son, I'm not talking
Speaker 2: about that. I'm talking about the actual sun and the
Speaker 2: wild filaments and the sun spots and like the plumes
Speaker 2: or smoke or plasma or whatever that was jumping up
Speaker 2: off of it. Fascinating to see that up close. And
Speaker 2: I gotta say, dude, for somebody to be to be
Speaker 2: able to zoom in that far, yeah, that's like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: that shit is not ninety three million miles away. There's
Speaker 2: no fucking way.
Speaker 4: It's It's incredible.
Speaker 2: What do you what do you think about that? Would
Speaker 2: you be able to like on some real shit like no, no,
Speaker 2: you know, entertainment or anything like that, but like on
Speaker 2: some real level shit? Would he would anybody be able
Speaker 2: to zoom in with a camera on something ninety three
Speaker 2: million miles away? Think about that? Because I mean I imagine
Speaker 2: with that same camera, it would probably be pretty hard
Speaker 2: to zoom in on something two miles away, maybe five
Speaker 2: miles away, maybe ten miles away. Like, that's crazy to
Speaker 2: zoom in ten miles that's a crazy thing. You're talking
Speaker 2: about zooming in on something that is ninety three million
Speaker 2: miles away. Now, I know it's a big ass object.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it ain't, but you shouldn't be
Speaker 2: able to zoom in that much if there's that much
Speaker 2: distance in between. It doesn't it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 5: Telescope technology has come a very, very, very long way.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: Granted that was a telescope like at its house. He's
Speaker 5: not working at an observatory with an even higher powered
Speaker 5: telescope or anything like. He does have a nice telescope,
Speaker 5: he does, he does, and of course it was hooked
Speaker 5: up to his computer, so he can get digital images
Speaker 5: of it and all these things, and you're able to
Speaker 5: zoom in more on the camera and or on the
Speaker 5: computer rather.
Speaker 2: But it's not a computer generated image by any means.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, it's not.
Speaker 5: Well, okay, the colors because of the uses of the
Speaker 5: lens that he's doing and looking at the light spectrum,
Speaker 5: like he is by definition, it is a computer that
Speaker 5: is generating that image.
Speaker 4: Yes, but it's not like CGI.
Speaker 5: No, not like this was a fancy cartoon imagery anything
Speaker 5: to that level. Right, But yes, you with a telescope,
Speaker 5: you should be able to zoom into that level. It's
Speaker 5: just that with your average telescope you're not going to
Speaker 5: be able to see the Sun in that way because
Speaker 5: all you're going to see is a ball of white light.
Speaker 5: Like you have to have filters, and you have to
Speaker 5: have special uh you know.
Speaker 4: Precursor and precursors, uh not precautions. What's the word I'm
Speaker 4: looking for?
Speaker 2: Whatever the words and the terms are what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like into the question, do you think that you'd be
Speaker 2: able to zoom in on something that's ninety three million
Speaker 2: miles away? Really?
Speaker 3: Believe?
Speaker 4: So? Yes? Realistically, now not to the level you like.
Speaker 5: Let's say hypothetically that the Sun was a planet, not
Speaker 5: a star, and let's say that some person had like
Speaker 5: a note in their hand. No, I don't believe we
Speaker 5: could zoom it enough to read that note by any means.
Speaker 5: But you're also talking to the Sun is much much,
Speaker 5: much much larger than our Earth, like by leaps and bounds. Right,
Speaker 5: So could we zoom in that far or that deep
Speaker 5: onto an image that big?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I believe so to.
Speaker 2: Zoom in so far that you see individual filaments coming
Speaker 2: up off of the sun like that? How big are
Speaker 2: those filaments? Are these filaments like a couple of states wide? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it would have to be. Yeah, but it doesn't mean.
Speaker 5: Dude, you on our planet as compared to like one
Speaker 5: of those solar flares, you understand that if you were
Speaker 5: to compare that apples and oranges, we're talking about something
Speaker 5: taller than the bird Khalifa spewing off of this entity, right,
Speaker 5: It's it's it's it's not like the Sun is like
Speaker 5: this little thing out there.
Speaker 4: Well, isn't it like what twenty times bigger than our planet?
Speaker 2: The Sun is, Oh, only one hundred and nine times
Speaker 2: bigger than the Earth.
Speaker 5: Only one hundred and nine times bigger than our plant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not like one hundred thousand times bigger,
Speaker 2: is my point.
Speaker 5: No, I said twenty I thought it was gonna be that, like, Okay,
Speaker 5: to put that into perspective, our planet is like four
Speaker 5: times bigger than Mars.
Speaker 2: Dude. What I'm saying is is that it doesn't fucking
Speaker 2: mathematically logically makes sense that you would be able to
Speaker 2: zoom in that far to get that detailed on those
Speaker 2: You're I think you're you're smoking fucking crack or meth
Speaker 2: or some shit to say that you can zoom in
Speaker 2: on an individual filament like that and just say, well,
Speaker 2: it must be a continent wide.
Speaker 5: No, not only actually, but I know that now that
Speaker 5: I know it's one hundred times bigger. You realize one
Speaker 5: of those black like holes that you saw within the sun,
Speaker 5: You realize our planet could fit inside that, right, one
Speaker 5: hundred times bigger than our planet That little speck. Would
Speaker 5: you say that that was maybe one hundred of those
Speaker 5: would have made up the entire Sun if we're going
Speaker 5: off of diameter. So, yeah, it's a lot bigger than
Speaker 5: a continent. You're right, it's about the size of our
Speaker 5: entire planet. Is that one spot that we're looking at?
Speaker 5: So with that in mind, could we zoom in that
Speaker 5: far onto that large of an object, even if it's
Speaker 5: that far away?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe.
Speaker 2: So that's crazy to me that it's his own telescope.
Speaker 4: Dude, it's designed to do it.
Speaker 5: Hell, we have cameras that we can zoom in from
Speaker 5: a satellite, and if you're walking down the street reading
Speaker 5: a note, they can read that note from space.
Speaker 2: Is it ninety three million miles away this satellite?
Speaker 5: No, But that's my point. They're able to read a
Speaker 5: note from now. It's not even a thousand miles away exactly. Now,
Speaker 5: let's talk about that in the perspective of how big
Speaker 5: the Sun is. It's not like we were zooming in
Speaker 5: so much to where we could see if there was
Speaker 5: a license plate just happened to be on the surface
Speaker 5: of the Sun for some reason and it wasn't burning,
Speaker 5: we may not.
Speaker 4: Be able to read that. We couldn't zoom in that far.
Speaker 5: But we're looking at the entire Sun that is one
Speaker 5: hundred times bigger than our planet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we could do that.
Speaker 2: Sure, I don't buy it. I don't buy it. Sorry,
Speaker 2: after hearing what he has to say in the pictures
Speaker 2: and the videos, there's no fucking way in hell that
Speaker 2: that is. Can you even fathom the idea of how
Speaker 2: far ninety three million miles away is? Bro Like, you've
Speaker 2: driven long distances. What's the longest drive you've ever taken?
Speaker 5: Like at one time or in one shot twenty two hours,
Speaker 5: twenty two hours.
Speaker 2: You probably covered what maybe one thousand miles in that
Speaker 2: time somewhere around.
Speaker 5: There, about two thousand, no, not two thousand, hold on,
Speaker 5: hold on, you know, I'll look it up real quickly.
Speaker 2: It takes me because it took me, I think twenty
Speaker 2: five hours to drive to Arizona, and that's straight through,
Speaker 2: and that's only I think eleven hundred miles twelve at most.
Speaker 5: Really, yeah, okay, you know what, I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 5: The farthest drive I ever personally took was from here
Speaker 5: to Hartford, Connecticut. How far is it from Hartford to
Speaker 5: Baton Rouge? Just curious here? And that wasn't even twenty
Speaker 5: two miles or twenty two hours. That was okay, So
Speaker 5: you're right. I guess the farthest I've ever driven was,
Speaker 5: give or take, fifteen hundred miles.
Speaker 2: At most fifteen hundred I mean, unless you were going
Speaker 2: ninety five the entire way with no.
Speaker 5: Try, no, no, it's fourteen eighty two miles like from
Speaker 5: Baton Rouge to Hartford.
Speaker 4: And I also took some detours.
Speaker 5: I didn't make a direct straight shot, and it would
Speaker 5: have taken twenty two hours or technically like closer to
Speaker 5: twenty three hours. So actually I'm living I live further
Speaker 5: away than Baton Rouge, and I took some detours, so realistically,
Speaker 5: I've probably driven twenty four hours and gone probably somewhere
Speaker 5: around like fifteen fifty maybe.
Speaker 2: Either way, I don't I don't want to get caught
Speaker 2: up in the tiny minute shit. But like, if you
Speaker 2: think about it, you drove that long ass distance, you
Speaker 2: a lot of land, and you were going pretty probably
Speaker 2: fairly fast, probably at least seventy miles an hour the
Speaker 2: entire way. Right, let me see.
Speaker 5: How real quick do you believe that we have decent
Speaker 5: pictures of Mars.
Speaker 2: If you're talking about the bullshit that they try and
Speaker 2: show us of the Mars rocks and the Mars landscape. No,
Speaker 2: I don't buy that.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, not all, not like from the rover.
Speaker 5: I mean, like, we have telescopes on Earth right that
Speaker 5: will take images of Mars. We can zoom in for
Speaker 5: really really well, do you believe that at least because
Speaker 5: Mars is two hundred and fourteen million miles away.
Speaker 2: Bro, No, I don't buy that either. What No, I
Speaker 2: don't think dude. I'm firmly of the belief that there
Speaker 2: has never been a human in actual space.
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm talking about telescopes.
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about any kind of satellites, hubble, any
Speaker 5: of that shit.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about crow.
Speaker 5: If he was to take that same telescope that he's got,
Speaker 5: the same one he used to zoom in on the Moon,
Speaker 5: and if he was to zoom in on Mars, you
Speaker 5: don't think that he could zoom in and get a
Speaker 5: decent picture of Mars. Dude, with he's getting these types
Speaker 5: of pictures of the Sun.
Speaker 2: I guess I would have to see an example about
Speaker 2: what you're talking about, because a lot of them are
Speaker 2: very cgi and not real, and they're they're pictured together.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a collage of pictures. They're not one
Speaker 2: giant picture. So I would have to see exactly what
Speaker 2: your example is, Bro.
Speaker 5: There's all kinds of amateur pictures that have been taken
Speaker 5: of Mars from the same thing. Some person that bought
Speaker 5: a high end telescope in their yard has hooked up
Speaker 5: to their laptop so that they can, you know, digitize
Speaker 5: the image and they take a pretty crystal clear image
Speaker 5: of Mars, and they are able to do that with
Speaker 5: the shit that you can buy off of Amazon. So
Speaker 5: to say that, do I believe that this guy is
Speaker 5: taking really good clear crystal, you know, pictures of the
Speaker 5: sun which is ninety three thousand miles away, when they
Speaker 5: have amateurs are able to do it on a smaller
Speaker 5: target twice the distance away. Yeah, I personally believe that. Okay,
Speaker 5: just to put it in take away nassa, take away
Speaker 5: government entities.
Speaker 2: Just to go back to what I was saying, as
Speaker 2: far as the sun goes, So the sun is ninety
Speaker 2: three million miles away. If you were to drive seventy
Speaker 2: miles an hour and there was some kind of rainbow
Speaker 2: bridge that led you directly to the sun.
Speaker 4: Okay, we'd take forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and fifty one, almost one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty two years of driving seventy miles an hour with
Speaker 2: no potty breaks, no gas station phillips, no stopping at McDonald's.
Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty two, basically years of driving seventy
Speaker 2: miles an hour straight, Okay, And that's it.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's a direct shot. There ain't no loops or anything, right,
Speaker 2: And you want to stand there and tell me that
Speaker 2: you can take a fucking telescope and zoom in as
Speaker 2: far as he did. That is ninety three million miles away.
Speaker 2: That would take you one hundred and seventy three years
Speaker 2: to drive there. If you're going seventy miles an hour,
Speaker 2: you think that we'd be able to get that close
Speaker 2: of a picture.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're talking about like driving distance and somehow a
Speaker 5: line of sight are equatable their vision and like physically moving.
Speaker 5: There are two very different conversations.
Speaker 2: Trying to give perspective on how long of a distance
Speaker 2: that is.
Speaker 5: Once a look up amateur pictures of Mars, just amateur
Speaker 5: pictures of Mars through a telescope, Okay, and then keep
Speaker 5: in mind that that is two hundred and fourteen million
Speaker 5: miles away and it is a much smaller target. Then
Speaker 5: let's cut to crow looking at a target one hundred
Speaker 5: times bigger than the planet we're currently residing on at
Speaker 5: half the distance. Yeah, yeah, this is this is the
Speaker 5: way technology works, bro, half the distance ninety three million
Speaker 5: miles away versus two hundred and fourteen million miles away.
Speaker 5: You're right, I'm being generous calling it half.
Speaker 2: Oh it's you said thousand at first.
Speaker 5: Two hundred and fourteen mis million miles away from Earth
Speaker 5: that's what Mars is. And these amateurs in their driveway
Speaker 5: with a telescope and a laptop, we're able to get
Speaker 5: these types of images from a much smaller target, over
Speaker 5: twice the distance away from the sun. Yes, I believe
Speaker 5: crow is taking real images of the sun. You're making
Speaker 5: my point.
Speaker 2: My point is is that these fucking planets are not
Speaker 2: millions of miles away. That's the only way you'd be
Speaker 2: able to zoom in on them that far. Why it
Speaker 2: is not fucking logical, bro Like, it blows my mind.
Speaker 2: How you're mister logic and you can't spot this?
Speaker 5: Oh I'm missing something here?
Speaker 4: Why? Why is that illogical?
Speaker 2: You've had a telescope in your life.
Speaker 4: I have had family members that have had them.
Speaker 2: Sure, okay, if you were to point that telescope instead
Speaker 2: of up in the sky, point it down the road.
Speaker 2: How far do you think that you'd be able to
Speaker 2: see more than a mile away if you zoomed all
Speaker 2: the way in. Let's say you wanted to zoom in
Speaker 2: on your neighbor who lives a mile away. You want
Speaker 2: to zoom in on their fucking mailbox, and it's a
Speaker 2: straight line. It's not a foggy day it's very clear outside.
Speaker 2: What how difficult would it be for you to zoom in?
Speaker 2: I don't want to say a mile, Let's say ten miles.
Speaker 5: You want to let's say sniper scopes that are rated
Speaker 5: to see three miles away and make really good shots
Speaker 5: on a rifle, not even just sights.
Speaker 4: You understand this.
Speaker 2: I get that, let's say ten miles, ten miles, and
Speaker 2: if you had a straight shot, you'd be able to
Speaker 2: see you're telling me you'd be able to see your
Speaker 2: your neighbor's fucking letters in the mail.
Speaker 4: Okay, you understand.
Speaker 5: We've had people on the show that are saying that
Speaker 5: if you go on the coast, on the beach of
Speaker 5: California with a high enough powered camera, you'd be able
Speaker 5: to see Japan.
Speaker 2: No, no, I don't care about what other people are saying.
Speaker 2: I want your logical mind to work this out.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: There is a difference because of what is in the
Speaker 5: air at ground level. There's a reason why the sun
Speaker 5: when it's rising is pink, right, It's because you are
Speaker 5: looking through what is it like, four feet of dirt
Speaker 5: and two feet of water. They're just with dust in
Speaker 5: the air and humidity in the air.
Speaker 4: To see it.
Speaker 5: That's why you're able to actually physically look at the
Speaker 5: sun in the morning and not burn your retinas versus
Speaker 5: it being at high noon when you have nothing in
Speaker 5: the way. So let's talk about that in the night sky,
Speaker 5: looking straight up when there's nothing in the way. Yeah,
Speaker 5: these are different conversations, dude, Like, let's apply logic.
Speaker 2: Let's apply logic. You're talking about being able to zoom
Speaker 2: in on something that is literally one hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: three years worth of a drive away if you're going seventy.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's a drive in a car going seventy miles
Speaker 5: an hour. Vision and light work at very different speeds.
Speaker 2: Bro, this is sound I'm trying to and go Mo'm
Speaker 2: not just making an example of how fucking far away
Speaker 2: it is. Don't read too far into it. What I'm
Speaker 2: saying is this as far as fuck.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's say if you're traveling at mock three right,
Speaker 5: jets can pull mock three relatively easily and have been
Speaker 5: able two for decades. Now, let's talk about how long
Speaker 5: it would take for you to get from here to
Speaker 5: the sun, right, and granted it's still gonna be a
Speaker 5: very long time. Like you're not gonna get there in
Speaker 5: a matter of a few minutes or even a few days.
Speaker 4: It's still a very far jaunt.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, yes, logically speaking, like it's
Speaker 5: logically insane that you're able to push a metal craft
Speaker 5: past the sound barrier three times over, but somehow we
Speaker 5: do because that's how technology works.
Speaker 2: Man, that is crazy. Even going Mock three in a jet,
Speaker 2: it would take you four point sixty years to reach
Speaker 2: the Sun.
Speaker 5: Like I said, it's not like you're gonna get there
Speaker 5: in a couple of days. But again, if we're looking
Speaker 5: at it from the perspective of a car going seventy
Speaker 5: miles an hour, let's go, let's push what the human
Speaker 5: technological conversation can even.
Speaker 2: If better you're saying, it would take one of the
Speaker 2: fastest jets we.
Speaker 5: Have, I think the fastest, like Mock six, Smock five
Speaker 5: or six or something like that.
Speaker 4: But okay, one.
Speaker 2: Of the fastest jets we have, and it still takes
Speaker 2: damn near five years of continuous flight to be able
Speaker 2: to get from A to B. Yet you think a
Speaker 2: telescope can zoom in so far, then it can zum
Speaker 2: in something that is ninety three fucking million miles away,
Speaker 2: like take away all of the astronomy that you've ever learned.
Speaker 2: Like I'm talking about, use your logical mind, not the
Speaker 2: fucking shit you've been brainwashed to believe. I'm talking about,
Speaker 2: use your actual logical, fucking functioning brain, because I know you've.
Speaker 4: Got the one that's brainwashed here.
Speaker 2: Really, dude, dude, there is no other there's no other
Speaker 2: way of looking at it. You have to look at
Speaker 2: it through the brainwashing that you've been fucking brainwashed with.
Speaker 5: Oh mind, Okay, how do we know that Saturn has rings?
Speaker 5: How did ancient Rome who had no telescopes? How did
Speaker 5: they know that? That's interesting question. Yeah, clearly that's what
Speaker 5: they did. Or is it because they actually had a
Speaker 5: little bit of some some intuition, right, whatever the case.
Speaker 5: Maybe it was meditation, maybe it was psychedelics, maybe it
Speaker 5: was who knows what. Through a telescope, we can tell
Speaker 5: that they were correct.
Speaker 4: How could we tell that? How could the telescope possibly
Speaker 4: see the rings on Saturn?
Speaker 5: Because that's how technology works. And you want to talk
Speaker 5: about how far away Saturn is. Yeah, and we've known
Speaker 5: that Saturn's had rings, Like scientifically, we've known that Saturn
Speaker 5: has had rings for a very long time before, like
Speaker 5: way after the Romans, but like through a telescope, we've
Speaker 5: been able to see Saturn's rings for quite some time.
Speaker 4: How can we possibly see it?
Speaker 5: And that's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of
Speaker 5: miles away because the way that the light spectrum works
Speaker 5: and the way that vision works doesn't matter. Like, that's
Speaker 5: like me saying I could see the other end of
Speaker 5: a football field instantly. It would take me a good
Speaker 5: little minute to get across the football field. So what
Speaker 5: you're telling me that you could see something that it
Speaker 5: would take you longer to get to. Yeah, that's how
Speaker 5: vision works.
Speaker 2: Million fucking miles is not one hundred yards brow.
Speaker 4: Hey, looking on the top of a mountain. You're from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5: There's mountains, So at the top of the mountain, you
Speaker 5: could see for miles, right, not millions of miles. No,
Speaker 5: just you're using human eyes versus a telescope. These are
Speaker 5: two different conversations.
Speaker 2: Maybe sixty miles depending on how far up.
Speaker 5: Your vision exactly, And you could see that instantly, how
Speaker 5: long would it take you to walk that far? That
Speaker 5: doesn't mean that the vision you're having with your eyeballs
Speaker 5: is not valid. So yes, looking through a telescope to
Speaker 5: say that you're looking at a planet that's so far
Speaker 5: away it would take us how long to get there,
Speaker 5: but we can see it. Yeah, Vision and movement are
Speaker 5: not in the same conversation. Let me break this down
Speaker 5: for you, Okay, if you already okay, let me break
Speaker 5: it down even more because for some reason you think
Speaker 5: that this realm of thought is just crazy to you.
Speaker 2: So let me let me break it down. Okay. Imagine
Speaker 2: you never went to school. Imagine you never watched a movie,
Speaker 2: you never heard a song, you never heard another human speak,
Speaker 2: and you're just out there in the desert. Somehow you
Speaker 2: were able to survive just being a little baby, crawling
Speaker 2: around with no fucking diaper and having the sand to
Speaker 2: eat your turns. Okay, you're walking around there. You don't
Speaker 2: know shit from fuck. You don't even know words like,
Speaker 2: you don't even you have thoughts, but you don't you
Speaker 2: don't know what to do with them. Right, and you
Speaker 2: grow up and maybe you see some animals in nature,
Speaker 2: maybe you see a fucking tree grow. You're seeing all
Speaker 2: the different weeds and the snakes and the bugs and
Speaker 2: all these things right, and you look up and you
Speaker 2: see the sun. Now, if somebody was to come up
Speaker 2: to and teach you fucking English for a second, and
Speaker 2: then they put you through school, and then they said, look,
Speaker 2: this is what NASA, which is some kind of space
Speaker 2: agency that you know, takes all of our tax dollars
Speaker 2: and takes a lot of moon missions. NASA, they have
Speaker 2: proof that the sun, that big old ball light that
Speaker 2: you see every single day, they have proof that that
Speaker 2: thing is ninety three million miles away. And here's the
Speaker 2: crazy part. We have technology that you can zoom all
Speaker 2: the way in with a piece of fucking plastic, some metal,
Speaker 2: some glass, and you can zoom all the way in
Speaker 2: on this fucking object that is allegedly ninety three million
Speaker 2: miles away. You would think, what fucking video game that
Speaker 2: I just enter? That's what you wouldn't know.
Speaker 5: What a video game is, because apparently I didn't know
Speaker 5: English until that conversation.
Speaker 2: Well, you would note if you became brainwashed in the
Speaker 2: school system like they would have put you through.
Speaker 5: Bro, you keep trying to find these like wild contrived
Speaker 5: examples to try to prove your point. You realize this
Speaker 5: exact reason is why Copernicus and Galileo were ostracized and
Speaker 5: put on house arrests when they developed the telescope.
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is, dude, is it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4: That's my point.
Speaker 2: I don't even I'm past the point of even trying
Speaker 2: to convince you anymore, because I think that you are
Speaker 2: so you're not even left brained. You're like, it would
Speaker 2: be an honor to say that you're just left brained.
Speaker 2: But it's not that you're just left brained. You. I'm sorry, sir,
Speaker 2: you have some brainwashing in you that you need to
Speaker 2: work out.
Speaker 5: This coming from the guy that just believed the spoof
Speaker 5: website until I had to prove it emphatically, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 5: the one.
Speaker 4: I'm the guy that's got some wrong up top.
Speaker 2: All right, bro, whatever you say that should be even
Speaker 2: more cause for concern that this guy is telling you
Speaker 2: that it's it.
Speaker 4: Is a cause for a concern. You are correct on that.
Speaker 2: I fucking love you, dude. All right, let's boog you
Speaker 2: up out of here. We went on a long ass
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