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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property, And for this week of September second,

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<v Speaker 1>we are continuing with Lost. We watched season one, episode nine, Solitary,

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<v Speaker 1>an episode that I feel could have the subhead sayee

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<v Speaker 1>talks to difficult women the word does and also not

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<v Speaker 1>for Nothing. For an episode titled solitary, they introduced a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of new characters. They did where did all these

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<v Speaker 1>people come from? There's a crazy French lady in the jungle.

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<v Speaker 1>There's two dudes we've never seen before playing golf. It's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a party, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely noticed that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, now Russo, here we go again with the philosopher names. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're so, we will see again. And Ethan played by

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<v Speaker 1>cousin of Tom Cruise William my pother. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>you say his name. We will see him again. Sullivan

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<v Speaker 1>rash guy who turned out to be played by Scott Pollen,

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<v Speaker 1>an actor I know but did not recognize until his

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<v Speaker 1>names in the credit. He's a one episode wonder well

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, sorry about Colin.

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<v Speaker 1>Was in this show? Oh? And I looked it up

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<v Speaker 1>and says one episode since he came in West one,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing he just fades back into the background. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's off somewhere scratching his rash and uh, we never

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<v Speaker 1>saw him again, but hi, Scott, he must have. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he was just just uh, you know, vacationing in Hawaii

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<v Speaker 1>and asked, hey, could you use it I walk on by,

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<v Speaker 1>or he wanted a vacation to Hawaii and he said, hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a walk on right, I'll wear glasses and complain about

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<v Speaker 1>a rash.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be fine. I will try Jack's patience with my hypochondria.

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<v Speaker 2>We got real problems here, but sorry, if you're itchy,

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<v Speaker 2>get over.

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<v Speaker 1>It did inspire a great you know when when Jack

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<v Speaker 1>was telling Hurly things could be worse, and Hurley goes,

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<v Speaker 1>how speaking for like all of us, Yeah, I had

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<v Speaker 1>forgotten just what delightful comic relief jor Hae Garcia was

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<v Speaker 1>providing from the very first moment of the show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what a wonderful and essential character Hurly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, no kidding. And he's the one who figured

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<v Speaker 2>out how to make a golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>See, it was actually funny together.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite Yeah, it was really astute of him to determine, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, we need to do something fun. All

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing is like trying to survive out here and

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<v Speaker 2>try not to get eaten by some kind of weird monster.

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<v Speaker 2>And we should play a few rounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah'd be sweet if we had something to do, he says. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what a what an You know, you wouldn't have thought

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<v Speaker 1>of all the things you would think that they might

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<v Speaker 1>come up with to do, right, Golf would not have

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<v Speaker 1>been it, but there you go, though, also providing an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for from a parenting point of view. Yeah, Michael, Michael, Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Michael. First you lecture your kid what he can

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot do. Then you leave them alone in caves.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you say, oh, you can step in front of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else to take their turn at golf. It'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when it's your turn, you just leave him.

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<v Speaker 1>What them is the matter with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Michael?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, now, somebody get this man a parenting book.

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<v Speaker 1>There's gotta be one somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody packed one in their luggage.

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<v Speaker 1>We still had a child, maybe she's got a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she's got something in her hovel there. Just just

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<v Speaker 1>find this man a book or a podcast. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>get our podcast in see if you can.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd set up those antennas again to try to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Some I just my husband and I both yelled at

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<v Speaker 1>the screen when he did that. What is the matter

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<v Speaker 3>Stop that?

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<v Speaker 1>He is still so wildly well not even out of

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<v Speaker 1>getting it. He's got the here's what you can't do

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<v Speaker 1>down But like, hey, son, I'd like to spend time

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<v Speaker 1>with you here. Why don't you take this club and

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<v Speaker 1>go take my turn? That party does not yet have.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully he will not come to the same end as

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<v Speaker 1>whatever happened to Russeau's child. But yeah, does not sound good,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Given what she claims happened to the rest of her Yes, gang, yikes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Danielle Rousseau giving us an example of what happens

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't have a hurley to set up a

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<v Speaker 1>golf course and break the tension just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah again, I felt sits flashback was sort of wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it did contribute to what we were seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, but.

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<v Speaker 2>We probably could have figured it, you know, like it's

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<v Speaker 2>already been established that he was part of the Iraqi

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<v Speaker 2>whatever what was it called Republican card or something, which

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<v Speaker 2>at the time we would know to be the bad guys. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know he has this picture, Okay, there's some

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<v Speaker 2>woman in his past, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>True, that seems very crisp after having gone through a

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<v Speaker 1>a beach. Yes, it still looks like you're taking it

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<v Speaker 1>out of the folder of the photographer.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that we needed to see her face

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<v Speaker 1>that well, we were just going to see her in flashbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, yeah, exactly kept it very safe.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we could have made the connection.

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<v Speaker 1>It could have been a little more tattered or smaller.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it was just large, Like where was he keeping it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Where was he holding it that it didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>at least a little bit dog eared?

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<v Speaker 2>Right questions? No, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>But it does also prove that he's he's a torturer,

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<v Speaker 1>but a torturer with a conscience. No, he did torture Sawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>but he felt bad about it later and left. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he did couldn't quite torture Naudiet, but he did other people.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just he's like, well, it's not who he is.

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<v Speaker 2>He killed a guy, so that yeah, she could try

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<v Speaker 2>to help her get away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so what is it that we say here? Layers?

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<v Speaker 1>He's got layers also looks very good sweating in an undershirt.

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<v Speaker 2>And while being held in some kind of dugout had to.

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<v Speaker 1>Make James a little stronger so he couldn't get away.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, well, she was lonely, Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>She might have some use for him other than fixing.

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<v Speaker 2>Her music box.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, all right, fill in the dirty joke of

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<v Speaker 1>your choice. But off he goes and she goes and

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<v Speaker 1>uh more to be seen there, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's a big development, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there is not only one other person on the island,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently lots of other dangerous people on the island

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<v Speaker 1>that whisper the all right, and also monsters, polar bears,

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<v Speaker 1>polar bears. Who was it somebody was the recipient of

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<v Speaker 1>the line. You didn't hear about the polar bear.

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<v Speaker 2>It might have been one of those two new guys, but.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were off in an anonymous extra land, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get this story.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't hear about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, wonder that. I mean, I get the need for

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<v Speaker 1>the golf course, and it was brilliant by Hurley, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was for all these people who didn't have anything

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<v Speaker 1>playing on it the people who have the most stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to do? Why is Jack playing golf other than the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he's a doctor? Haha, sawyer. But still, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>this for the hypochondriac whose anxiety is causing him to

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<v Speaker 1>have a rash? Isn't this for all the other people

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<v Speaker 1>who have nothing to do? Instead they're watching like the

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<v Speaker 1>three busiest dudes play golf. Okay, fine, that's Michael. Wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute on that setting up the shower and fresh

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<v Speaker 1>water thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you can play some golf and ignore your kid, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Locke, however, is still out throwing knives around, so it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll take care of Wault.

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<v Speaker 2>He's usually game to be like, sure, Walt, you can

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<v Speaker 2>hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're not gonna be with your kid

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<v Speaker 1>every minute, you know, there is a childcare option.

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<v Speaker 2>Multiple, I mean, there's.

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<v Speaker 1>To it. But uh, you know, Lock will take him anytime,

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<v Speaker 1>teach him all sorts of useful skills like boy Scot camp. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've said before, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeez, because this was a sad episode, we got a

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<v Speaker 3>lot less of Jack and Sawyer and Kate, did I

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<v Speaker 3>mean except for Sawyer like taunting Jack at the golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>And well but he's uh, he's joined in the group.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so based on Kate, yeah, you know, gently suggesting

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<v Speaker 2>that might be a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>From one outcast to another. All right, so he's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be the enemy for a while. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>They gotta you know, justify the triangle in some way.

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<v Speaker 1>Still so boring, but uh, you know, probably there are

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<v Speaker 1>more important things for them.

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<v Speaker 2>To be worrying about yeah, their golf game.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, everybody needs to have their music box

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<v Speaker 1>fixed every now and then. I guess there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of that, right, Well, so this set

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<v Speaker 1>up a lot of stuff, yeah, without really doing very

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<v Speaker 1>much in this particular episode, But we know now to

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<v Speaker 1>walk carefully through the jungle, right well? Which did we?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we may have known that before.

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<v Speaker 1>Like said, really, you sure you want to go into

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<v Speaker 1>the jungle? I mean he's falling, Like, I guess what

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<v Speaker 1>is a power chord? I thought it was a rope,

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<v Speaker 1>but according to lost Pedia, it was a power chord

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<v Speaker 1>of some sort. I can see that. But then you

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<v Speaker 1>see a trip wire and you step gently over it

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<v Speaker 1>and then wind up in a net. Right, just maybe

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<v Speaker 1>at that point there's somebody here putting up trip wires,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I should go. Well, as he's a he's a

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<v Speaker 1>resourceful dude.

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<v Speaker 2>As Jack told Kate, you know, he's a trained soldier.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll he'll be fine, He'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Be fine, And he's going to come back babbling about

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<v Speaker 1>crazy French women and diseases and traps and all people

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<v Speaker 1>whispering in the jungle.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're going to say, well, let's let's get you

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<v Speaker 2>some water and the golf. How about a shower. We've

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<v Speaker 2>developed the technology while you've been gone that you could

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<v Speaker 2>take a shower.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, lovely. Yes, we're all going to die of some

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<v Speaker 1>strange disease or shoot each other. But for the moment. Golf, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>was there a there are like a a foreshadowing bag

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I may have seen one, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's what Hurley found. He must have found

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<v Speaker 1>you would look at it and say, well, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>a weapon, you know, yeah, take somebody's head off with

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<v Speaker 2>Club, yourself a bore.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, you gotta make the best use you

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<v Speaker 1>can of what you have available. And playing playing a

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<v Speaker 1>little island golf, yes, not a bad way to go

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<v Speaker 1>about it, right, That was fun and setting things up, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>putting some chest pieces on the board.

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<v Speaker 2>As will happen on a network TV show that has

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, indeed, oh and so very many more after that.

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<v Speaker 1>I keep going on the Lost Pedia, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everything is cross reference to future episodes and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I look at some of the stuff in like

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<v Speaker 2>Just keeps getting weirder, is what it's my understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>Right slightly does. It's weird enough right now, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And also like up to this point it's all

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<v Speaker 2>been flashbacks, yes, but there's also well we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>flash forwards.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, we will and also flash sideways.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh great, okay, with a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of episodes, I'm telling.

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<v Speaker 2>You, right, we had to Like flashbacks are not enough.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to flash all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we have to keep fishing people out in the

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<v Speaker 1>ocean if we're getting out of the Yeah. They they

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<v Speaker 1>they exhausted their creative options as much as they could, right, So, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's uh, it's wild. It gets wild, but hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a soap opera where it hooks you in

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<v Speaker 1>and then you want to see what happens, even if

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<v Speaker 1>what happens is oh, come on, you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway. Yeah, So hopefully you will continue feeling that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of feel that way now, even though I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it before. I've been on the ride. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on lots of dips and upside downs and curlicues

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, but right as a hell of a ride.

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<v Speaker 1>When you get to the end, your back where you began,

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<v Speaker 1>but still on the way, it's pretty thrilling. So so

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<v Speaker 1>far you're with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I am. You know. I get that way about

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of shows, you know, where I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>This is the very you know, museum example of a

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<v Speaker 1>show where the ride is more important than the destination,

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<v Speaker 1>which is unfortunate because a lot of people were banking

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. But oh my gosh, the thrills, the chills,

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<v Speaker 1>the the you know, how can you it was worth

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<v Speaker 1>it just for the week to week going oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I'm seeing this on my television. So

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to you just have to go with it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can relax and go with it and not

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<v Speaker 1>really expect every shoelace to be tied at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll you'll dig it. It's very fun and it's very audacious,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's in some points very desperate. But I will

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<v Speaker 1>I will just I will just drop this for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a spoiler for very laden and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not really a spoiler. Alison Janney is in this show.

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<v Speaker 1>What no way I drop that there? It's a long

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<v Speaker 1>time coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't expect it. Well, that's motivating.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't expect it with every every anonymous extra coming

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<v Speaker 1>out from behind the plane. It's well toward the end,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that, amongst all the other stuff that is

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<v Speaker 1>right on this show that makes your jaw drop, Alison

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<v Speaker 1>Janney isn't okay. So do we have anything else to

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<v Speaker 1>say about this? Do we have anything else we want

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<v Speaker 1>to pull from behind the plane or at out to

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they introduced these new people, and then there was

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of regulars who just were had the

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<v Speaker 1>week off. I guess yes, So good for them they

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<v Speaker 1>were they had found themselves a shady's place maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>found a book in the wreckage. Yeah, just relax just relaxing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not so up for golf. That looked hot. Area that

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<v Speaker 1>were playing golf. So perhaps they have themselves a nice

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<v Speaker 1>a nice you know, they brushed a side a dead

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<v Speaker 1>body and found themselves a nice cool part of the cave.

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<v Speaker 1>No bees reading the magazine, doing a cross a puzzle,

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<v Speaker 1>taking a nap.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, hope they hear no voices whispering. So next Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>we will continue with season one, episode ten of Lost

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<v Speaker 1>Raised by Another, which is I believe a clear flashback episode. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>possible that we get a new little castaway. I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna happen soon.

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<v Speaker 1>It it should be happening. It sure does look like

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<v Speaker 1>it should be happening soon. But who I still am

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<v Speaker 1>not clear on the timeline of these episodes. How much

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<v Speaker 1>time is passing in between them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's lost for.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten weeks, but I don't think they've been doing it

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<v Speaker 1>for ten weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>I think on lost Pedia it says like what day

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<v Speaker 2>it is? Okay, like day twelve or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, yeah, so they're not so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, why she hasn't she had that baby yet?

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<v Speaker 1>It's just right, should be coming to be about that time,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe about the time she has an episode of her own.

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