Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Tuesday we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property, And for this week of September second,
Speaker 1: we are continuing with Lost. We watched season one, episode nine, Solitary,
Speaker 1: an episode that I feel could have the subhead sayee
Speaker 1: talks to difficult women the word does and also not
Speaker 1: for Nothing. For an episode titled solitary, they introduced a
Speaker 1: lot of new characters. They did where did all these
Speaker 1: people come from? There's a crazy French lady in the jungle.
Speaker 1: There's two dudes we've never seen before playing golf. It's uh,
Speaker 1: it's a party, it is.
Speaker 2: I definitely noticed that.
Speaker 1: Yes, now Russo, here we go again with the philosopher names. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're so, we will see again. And Ethan played by
Speaker 1: cousin of Tom Cruise William my pother. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: you say his name. We will see him again. Sullivan
Speaker 1: rash guy who turned out to be played by Scott Pollen,
Speaker 1: an actor I know but did not recognize until his
Speaker 1: names in the credit. He's a one episode wonder well
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I was like, sorry about Colin.
Speaker 1: Was in this show? Oh? And I looked it up
Speaker 1: and says one episode since he came in West one,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing he just fades back into the background. So
Speaker 1: he's off somewhere scratching his rash and uh, we never
Speaker 1: saw him again, but hi, Scott, he must have. Maybe
Speaker 1: he was just just uh, you know, vacationing in Hawaii
Speaker 1: and asked, hey, could you use it I walk on by,
Speaker 1: or he wanted a vacation to Hawaii and he said, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: a walk on right, I'll wear glasses and complain about
Speaker 1: a rash.
Speaker 2: It'll be fine. I will try Jack's patience with my hypochondria.
Speaker 2: We got real problems here, but sorry, if you're itchy,
Speaker 2: get over.
Speaker 1: It did inspire a great you know when when Jack
Speaker 1: was telling Hurly things could be worse, and Hurley goes,
Speaker 1: how speaking for like all of us, Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: forgotten just what delightful comic relief jor Hae Garcia was
Speaker 1: providing from the very first moment of the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what a wonderful and essential character Hurly.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, no kidding. And he's the one who figured
Speaker 2: out how to make a golf course.
Speaker 1: See, it was actually funny together.
Speaker 2: Quite Yeah, it was really astute of him to determine, like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, we need to do something fun. All
Speaker 2: we're doing is like trying to survive out here and
Speaker 2: try not to get eaten by some kind of weird monster.
Speaker 2: And we should play a few rounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah'd be sweet if we had something to do, he says. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: what a what an You know, you wouldn't have thought
Speaker 1: of all the things you would think that they might
Speaker 1: come up with to do, right, Golf would not have
Speaker 1: been it, but there you go, though, also providing an
Speaker 1: opportunity for from a parenting point of view. Yeah, Michael, Michael, Michael,
Speaker 1: Michael Michael. First you lecture your kid what he can
Speaker 1: I cannot do. Then you leave them alone in caves.
Speaker 1: Then you say, oh, you can step in front of
Speaker 1: somebody else to take their turn at golf. It'll be fine.
Speaker 1: And then when it's your turn, you just leave him.
Speaker 1: What them is the matter with you?
Speaker 2: Michael?
Speaker 1: Come on, now, somebody get this man a parenting book.
Speaker 1: There's gotta be one somewhere.
Speaker 2: Somebody packed one in their luggage.
Speaker 1: We still had a child, maybe she's got a you know,
Speaker 1: maybe she's got something in her hovel there. Just just
Speaker 1: find this man a book or a podcast. Can you
Speaker 1: get our podcast in see if you can.
Speaker 2: We'd set up those antennas again to try to get.
Speaker 1: Some I just my husband and I both yelled at
Speaker 1: the screen when he did that. What is the matter
Speaker 1: with you?
Speaker 3: Stop that?
Speaker 1: He is still so wildly well not even out of
Speaker 1: practice because he never did it. He's just he's not
Speaker 1: getting it. He's got the here's what you can't do
Speaker 1: down But like, hey, son, I'd like to spend time
Speaker 1: with you here. Why don't you take this club and
Speaker 1: go take my turn? That party does not yet have.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he will not come to the same end as
Speaker 1: whatever happened to Russeau's child. But yeah, does not sound good,
Speaker 1: it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Given what she claims happened to the rest of her Yes, gang, yikes.
Speaker 1: Yes, Danielle Rousseau giving us an example of what happens
Speaker 1: if you don't have a hurley to set up a
Speaker 1: golf course and break the tension just a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, I felt sits flashback was sort of wrote.
Speaker 1: I mean, it did contribute to what we were seeing.
Speaker 1: But okay, but.
Speaker 2: We probably could have figured it, you know, like it's
Speaker 2: already been established that he was part of the Iraqi
Speaker 2: whatever what was it called Republican card or something, which
Speaker 2: at the time we would know to be the bad guys. Yes,
Speaker 2: and you know he has this picture, Okay, there's some
Speaker 2: woman in his past, Like.
Speaker 1: True, that seems very crisp after having gone through a
Speaker 1: plane crash and a certain amount of time living on
Speaker 1: a beach. Yes, it still looks like you're taking it
Speaker 1: out of the folder of the photographer.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: I don't know that we needed to see her face
Speaker 1: that well, we were just going to see her in flashbacks.
Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, exactly kept it very safe.
Speaker 2: I think we could have made the connection.
Speaker 1: It could have been a little more tattered or smaller.
Speaker 2: Like it was just large, Like where was he keeping it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Where was he holding it that it didn't get
Speaker 1: at least a little bit dog eared?
Speaker 2: Right questions? No, that's.
Speaker 1: But it does also prove that he's he's a torturer,
Speaker 1: but a torturer with a conscience. No, he did torture Sawyer,
Speaker 1: but he felt bad about it later and left. You know,
Speaker 1: he did couldn't quite torture Naudiet, but he did other people.
Speaker 1: And it just he's like, well, it's not who he is.
Speaker 2: He killed a guy, so that yeah, she could try
Speaker 2: to help her get away.
Speaker 1: Yes, so what is it that we say here? Layers?
Speaker 1: He's got layers also looks very good sweating in an undershirt.
Speaker 2: And while being held in some kind of dugout had to.
Speaker 1: Make James a little stronger so he couldn't get away.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, well, she was lonely, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: She might have some use for him other than fixing.
Speaker 2: Her music box.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, all right, fill in the dirty joke of
Speaker 1: your choice. But off he goes and she goes and
Speaker 1: uh more to be seen there, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a big development, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, there is not only one other person on the island,
Speaker 1: but apparently lots of other dangerous people on the island
Speaker 1: that whisper the all right, and also monsters, polar bears,
Speaker 1: polar bears. Who was it somebody was the recipient of
Speaker 1: the line. You didn't hear about the polar bear.
Speaker 2: It might have been one of those two new guys, but.
Speaker 1: When you were off in an anonymous extra land, you
Speaker 1: didn't get this story.
Speaker 2: You didn't hear about this.
Speaker 1: Well, wonder that. I mean, I get the need for
Speaker 1: the golf course, and it was brilliant by Hurley, and
Speaker 1: it was for all these people who didn't have anything
Speaker 1: to do, to have something to do. So who is
Speaker 1: playing on it the people who have the most stuff
Speaker 1: to do? Why is Jack playing golf other than the
Speaker 1: fact that he's a doctor? Haha, sawyer. But still, isn't
Speaker 1: this for the hypochondriac whose anxiety is causing him to
Speaker 1: have a rash? Isn't this for all the other people
Speaker 1: who have nothing to do? Instead they're watching like the
Speaker 1: three busiest dudes play golf. Okay, fine, that's Michael. Wait
Speaker 1: a minute on that setting up the shower and fresh
Speaker 1: water thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can play some golf and ignore your kid, right.
Speaker 1: Locke, however, is still out throwing knives around, so it's fine.
Speaker 1: He'll take care of Wault.
Speaker 2: He's usually game to be like, sure, Walt, you can
Speaker 2: hang out.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're not gonna be with your kid
Speaker 1: every minute, you know, there is a childcare option.
Speaker 2: Multiple, I mean, there's.
Speaker 1: To it. But uh, you know, Lock will take him anytime,
Speaker 1: teach him all sorts of useful skills like boy Scot camp. Right,
Speaker 1: I think I've said before, but.
Speaker 3: Jeez, because this was a sad episode, we got a
Speaker 3: lot less of Jack and Sawyer and Kate, did I
Speaker 3: mean except for Sawyer like taunting Jack at the golf course.
Speaker 1: And well but he's uh, he's joined in the group.
Speaker 2: Yes, so based on Kate, yeah, you know, gently suggesting
Speaker 2: that might be a good idea.
Speaker 1: From one outcast to another. All right, so he's maybe
Speaker 1: not going to be the enemy for a while. Right.
Speaker 2: They gotta you know, justify the triangle in some way.
Speaker 1: Still so boring, but uh, you know, probably there are
Speaker 1: more important things for them.
Speaker 2: To be worrying about yeah, their golf game.
Speaker 1: But you know, everybody needs to have their music box
Speaker 1: fixed every now and then. I guess there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a certain amount of that, right, Well, so this set
Speaker 1: up a lot of stuff, yeah, without really doing very
Speaker 1: much in this particular episode, But we know now to
Speaker 1: walk carefully through the jungle, right well? Which did we?
Speaker 2: I think we may have known that before.
Speaker 1: Like said, really, you sure you want to go into
Speaker 1: the jungle? I mean he's falling, Like, I guess what
Speaker 1: is a power chord? I thought it was a rope,
Speaker 1: but according to lost Pedia, it was a power chord
Speaker 1: of some sort. I can see that. But then you
Speaker 1: see a trip wire and you step gently over it
Speaker 1: and then wind up in a net. Right, just maybe
Speaker 1: at that point there's somebody here putting up trip wires,
Speaker 1: maybe I should go. Well, as he's a he's a
Speaker 1: resourceful dude.
Speaker 2: As Jack told Kate, you know, he's a trained soldier.
Speaker 2: He'll he'll be fine, He'll.
Speaker 1: Be fine, And he's going to come back babbling about
Speaker 1: crazy French women and diseases and traps and all people
Speaker 1: whispering in the jungle.
Speaker 2: And they're going to say, well, let's let's get you
Speaker 2: some water and the golf. How about a shower. We've
Speaker 2: developed the technology while you've been gone that you could
Speaker 2: take a shower.
Speaker 1: Yes, lovely. Yes, we're all going to die of some
Speaker 1: strange disease or shoot each other. But for the moment. Golf, Yeah,
Speaker 1: was there a there are like a a foreshadowing bag
Speaker 1: of golf clubs around in earlier episodes.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: I feel like I may have seen one, because I
Speaker 1: don't think that's what Hurley found. He must have found
Speaker 1: a golf ball or something, because it was he was
Speaker 1: looking in something much smaller.
Speaker 2: Something small.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I do feel like there was just
Speaker 1: sort of Chekhov's golf clubs in one of these long
Speaker 1: ago episodes that probably early episodes that just you know,
Speaker 1: you would look at it and say, well, that's a
Speaker 1: lot a lot of use right now though it was
Speaker 1: a weapon, you know, yeah, take somebody's head off with
Speaker 1: a well timed swing.
Speaker 2: Club, yourself a bore.
Speaker 1: So you know, you gotta make the best use you
Speaker 1: can of what you have available. And playing playing a
Speaker 1: little island golf, yes, not a bad way to go
Speaker 1: about it, right, That was fun and setting things up, Yes,
Speaker 1: putting some chest pieces on the board.
Speaker 2: As will happen on a network TV show that has
Speaker 2: twenty two episodes to fill.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, oh and so very many more after that.
Speaker 1: I keep going on the Lost Pedia, and you know,
Speaker 1: everything is cross reference to future episodes and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And I look at some of the stuff in like
Speaker 1: future seasons and go, oh man, I forgot all about that,
Speaker 1: right I hack.
Speaker 2: Just keeps getting weirder, is what it's my understanding.
Speaker 1: Right slightly does. It's weird enough right now, but it's
Speaker 1: getting weirder.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also like up to this point it's all
Speaker 2: been flashbacks, yes, but there's also well we'll get to
Speaker 2: flash forwards.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, we will and also flash sideways.
Speaker 2: Oh great, okay, with a.
Speaker 1: Lot of episodes, I'm telling.
Speaker 2: You, right, we had to Like flashbacks are not enough.
Speaker 2: You need to flash all over the place.
Speaker 1: Yes, we have to keep fishing people out in the
Speaker 1: ocean if we're getting out of the Yeah. They they
Speaker 1: they exhausted their creative options as much as they could, right, So, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's uh, it's wild. It gets wild, but hopefully
Speaker 1: it's like a soap opera where it hooks you in
Speaker 1: and then you want to see what happens, even if
Speaker 1: what happens is oh, come on, you want to see
Speaker 1: it anyway. Yeah, So hopefully you will continue feeling that way.
Speaker 1: I sort of feel that way now, even though I've
Speaker 1: seen it before. I've been on the ride. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm on lots of dips and upside downs and curlicues
Speaker 1: and you know, but right as a hell of a ride.
Speaker 1: When you get to the end, your back where you began,
Speaker 1: but still on the way, it's pretty thrilling. So so
Speaker 1: far you're with it.
Speaker 2: Yes, I am. You know. I get that way about
Speaker 2: a lot of shows, you know, where I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: I need to know it, and I know that this
Speaker 2: one's gonna.
Speaker 1: This is the very you know, museum example of a
Speaker 1: show where the ride is more important than the destination,
Speaker 1: which is unfortunate because a lot of people were banking
Speaker 1: on the destination right, and so they now hate the
Speaker 1: whole thing. But oh my gosh, the thrills, the chills,
Speaker 1: the the you know, how can you it was worth
Speaker 1: it just for the week to week going oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm seeing this on my television. So
Speaker 1: you just have to you just have to go with it.
Speaker 1: If you can relax and go with it and not
Speaker 1: really expect every shoelace to be tied at the end,
Speaker 1: you'll you'll dig it. It's very fun and it's very audacious,
Speaker 1: and it's in some points very desperate. But I will
Speaker 1: I will just I will just drop this for you.
Speaker 1: And this is a spoiler for very laden and it's
Speaker 1: not really a spoiler. Alison Janney is in this show.
Speaker 1: What no way I drop that there? It's a long
Speaker 1: time coming.
Speaker 2: Don't expect it. Well, that's motivating.
Speaker 1: You don't expect it with every every anonymous extra coming
Speaker 1: out from behind the plane. It's well toward the end,
Speaker 1: the fact that, amongst all the other stuff that is
Speaker 1: right on this show that makes your jaw drop, Alison
Speaker 1: Janney isn't okay. So do we have anything else to
Speaker 1: say about this? Do we have anything else we want
Speaker 1: to pull from behind the plane or at out to
Speaker 1: talk about?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they introduced these new people, and then there was
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of regulars who just were had the
Speaker 1: week off. I guess yes, So good for them they
Speaker 1: were they had found themselves a shady's place maybe they
Speaker 1: found a book in the wreckage. Yeah, just relax just relaxing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not so up for golf. That looked hot. Area that
Speaker 1: were playing golf. So perhaps they have themselves a nice
Speaker 1: a nice you know, they brushed a side a dead
Speaker 1: body and found themselves a nice cool part of the cave.
Speaker 1: No bees reading the magazine, doing a cross a puzzle,
Speaker 1: taking a nap.
Speaker 2: Excellent.
Speaker 1: Yes, hope they hear no voices whispering. So next Tuesday
Speaker 1: we will continue with season one, episode ten of Lost
Speaker 1: Raised by Another, which is I believe a clear flashback episode. Okay,
Speaker 1: possible that we get a new little castaway. I can't remember.
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen soon.
Speaker 1: It it should be happening. It sure does look like
Speaker 1: it should be happening soon. But who I still am
Speaker 1: not clear on the timeline of these episodes. How much
Speaker 1: time is passing in between them.
Speaker 2: I think it's lost for.
Speaker 1: Ten weeks, but I don't think they've been doing it
Speaker 1: for ten weeks.
Speaker 2: I think on lost Pedia it says like what day
Speaker 2: it is? Okay, like day twelve or something.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yeah, so they're not so it's not
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, why she hasn't she had that baby yet?
Speaker 1: It's just right, should be coming to be about that time,
Speaker 1: maybe about the time she has an episode of her own.
Speaker 1: We'll see and we will see you back here tomorrow
Speaker 1: to discuss only murders in the building. Thank you for listening.
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