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<v Speaker 1>Like you don't need Jeffrey Epstein anymore. You actually don't

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<v Speaker 1>need an Epstein volunteer. Is Epstein on steroids. They will

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<v Speaker 1>control you through comfort as opposed through fear. Eighty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the population will rush to it. All right, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the Rice Report, everybody, Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for being here. As always, this is the place

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<v Speaker 1>where we talk about the things you're not supposed to money, politics, religion,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're going to go into some different sectors

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<v Speaker 1>of the world that most people have zero education on,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to try to bring some light into

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<v Speaker 1>the darkness of the abyss of ignorance that exists in

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<v Speaker 1>America today. We live in a very naive society that

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<v Speaker 1>tends to trend towards trusting without verifying. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a very important topic to talk about today. And

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<v Speaker 1>today's guest Jay Dire.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of you will know him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been all over the place, author, show, host, podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>He's done just about everything out there, a great name

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<v Speaker 1>out in the space. And I know that because he

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<v Speaker 1>has enemies. When people have enemies, it generally means they're

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<v Speaker 1>over target. I don't take sides on things I call

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<v Speaker 1>balls and strikes Jay As I'm sure you've heard from

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else before coming on the show. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get into many different topics today, So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>rush right through the intro and we're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>right into where you see the world going? Aside, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to start all of my interviews with that basic

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<v Speaker 1>sentence like where do you see the world going?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's completely chaotic?

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you think, Jane, Yeah, I think we're

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<v Speaker 3>seeing a breakdown of the norms and the ideas that

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<v Speaker 3>we've had from the boomer mindset of you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>previous generations and they kind of they're still in power,

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<v Speaker 3>so to speak, but the Boomers are kind of moving out.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that all of that time frame, all

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<v Speaker 3>that mindset is beginning to break. I think certain things

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<v Speaker 3>in the mainstream media were sort of key pivotal issues.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to sidestep the Big nine event back in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and one, but more recently, I think twenty

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen was a huge one because a man was declared

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<v Speaker 3>to be by the mainstream media the woman of the Year,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I think that forced a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>who believed in the establishment in the system to sort

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<v Speaker 3>of come to a fork in the road to decide

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<v Speaker 3>am I going to leave the system, the establishment, or

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<v Speaker 3>am I going to realize that it's lying to me?

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<v Speaker 3>Because if I choose the option that it's lying to me,

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<v Speaker 3>that means that I may have been lied about to

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<v Speaker 3>about everything. Right, So, I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>had their minds broken. Then I think the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>koof Cough event, that that event was a huge syop

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<v Speaker 3>that broke the minds, especially of the boomers and others

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<v Speaker 3>and the left pretty hardcore. And then I think the

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<v Speaker 3>push for technocracy, which has been around for a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>but especially ramping up post COVID and all that, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that has further broken a lot of people's minds

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<v Speaker 3>and forced them to either wake up to more and

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<v Speaker 3>more truth or go deeper and deeper into delusion and

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<v Speaker 3>accept deception or maybe even what Thessalonians calls the strong delusion.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not necessarily saying that we're in the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the world. I don't know that could be, but regardless,

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<v Speaker 3>God does send as a chastisement of time strong delusions,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think we're definitely seeing people willingly believing and

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<v Speaker 3>going into just absolute insanity because they would rather, as

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<v Speaker 3>you know John three says, go to the light, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Darkness prefers to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of the light because it doesn't want its deeds

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<v Speaker 3>So I think they would rather believe lies, and that

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<v Speaker 3>has led to a winnowing. The population is getting sort

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<v Speaker 3>of radically polarized between people who have some sense of

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<v Speaker 3>good and then people are just going more and more

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<v Speaker 3>into evil. Long story short, I think we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>see more and more breakdown of things. I think the

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<v Speaker 3>Fiat money will continue to collapse, so the economy will collapse.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people are going to continue to engage in degenerate, disgusting.

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<v Speaker 3>Activities try to push that on a population, particularly things

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<v Speaker 3>like what we've seen in the Epstein files with younger

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<v Speaker 3>and younger people.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll probably try to normalize that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there'll be more of a push for centralization

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<v Speaker 3>of technocratic stuff. On my channel, we've covered technocracy from

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<v Speaker 3>a historical perspective, going back through a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>books of the technocrafts like ag Wells and Verse and Russell,

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<v Speaker 3>and the push for that kind of a socialist order

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<v Speaker 3>of the future. So I think unfortunately that's where we're going.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm not black pilled. I don't think that it's

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<v Speaker 3>all bad. There's a lot of great positive things happening

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time too. A lot of people are

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<v Speaker 3>turning to Orthodoxtrictianity, which I represent that I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>the right form of Christianity. And there was just one

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<v Speaker 3>church I noticed in a post today in North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 3>and they had just this year they had like two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifteen new catech humans, which for the Orthodox

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<v Speaker 3>Church is big. So we've seen a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>moving in that direction. And obviously it's not just Orthodox,

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<v Speaker 3>the other you know churches that at least adhere to

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<v Speaker 3>publicly conservative traditional ideas people are turning to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about Tepusa. I'm just I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>People are searching for you know, reality and real tradition,

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<v Speaker 3>and so that's a good sign. So there's a good

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<v Speaker 3>to have bad happening. But I think the push is

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<v Speaker 3>for technocracy for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's unavoidable to see that. And on

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<v Speaker 1>the other hand, you also have the you know, false

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Age promises of First Thessalonians, so those are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of both playing out at the same time again, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know when the end of the world is coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually don't really care to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm on the welcoming committee, not the planning committee.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you look at it from that perspective, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually think that this time period right now is they

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<v Speaker 1>are using that search. I put a post out earlier

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<v Speaker 1>today with Don Haffines who said, you know, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I bought Zoro ranch from Epstein, but you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>converting into a Christian retreat center for the youth. Like

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<v Speaker 1>who in the world would send their kids to this

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<v Speaker 1>Christian retreat center that had demonic child molestation and murders

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<v Speaker 2>But people are well, they'll see that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a there is a couple of generations

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<v Speaker 1>now that are completely starving for some sort of spirituality

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<v Speaker 1>in their life because they've been brought up in a

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<v Speaker 1>completely atheistic, dark, communistic environment where there has been the leanings.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that leads us into you you represent Orthodoxy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I represent Biblical Christianity. I don't think any

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<v Speaker 1>institutions are greater than the other. I think they all

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<v Speaker 1>have issues, just like everything else. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, you find Christ through Christ, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is that is kind of the home of it. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into that topic if you want to, or if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to, it doesn't matter to me. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I think that that starvation of

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual nourishment that people have been looking for is part

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<v Speaker 1>of this technocracy movement. I really think it's a huge

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. Why all of a sudden did the

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<v Speaker 1>floo And of course you can go back to Isaiah

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<v Speaker 1>forty five to seven. I control the light in the darkness,

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<v Speaker 1>right like God. God controls these things at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you see these when you see these movements

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<v Speaker 1>that are happening right now, where you have an entire

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<v Speaker 1>generation of kids who you know, twenty years ago, the

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<v Speaker 1>last thing you get a kid to do is go

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<v Speaker 1>to church, regardless of the church. And now they're flooding

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<v Speaker 1>the pews, which is a good thing, right, It's a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. I want young people to find spirituality and God,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want them to read their Bibles.

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<v Speaker 2>I want them to pray.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want them to just sit and listen to

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<v Speaker 1>pulpits or go through rituals and that's just my perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a good thing. Now that also provides, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a sign of weakness for society where people will maybe

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<v Speaker 1>focus too much on that and not on the underlying

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<v Speaker 1>technocracy that's being embedded. I know, you know the history

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<v Speaker 1>of Palenteer as well as anyone. I mean, you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at a complete CIA operation that said, hey, listen, we

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<v Speaker 1>can create this spyware.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be great. Go to Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>Congress says, yeah, I don't think the public would like this,

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<v Speaker 1>So why don't you just remain a private company. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and funnel taxpayer dollars into INKU. Tell, well,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you have those to build it out. And

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<v Speaker 1>now when people realize, wow, you've had more funding to

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<v Speaker 1>create a digital prison around us, we'll go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>take it public so that we can feed everyone's greed

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<v Speaker 1>and they won't not acknowledge that this is a bad

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<v Speaker 1>thing because they're all making money with the stock. Like

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<v Speaker 1>these are the real things that are happening right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Society talks a lot about a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't care about the transgender issue. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of goes back to the old theory of

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<v Speaker 1>discernment isn't knowing the difference between writing wrong. Everyone can

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<v Speaker 1>see that, it's the difference between right and almost right.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's really where the confusion occurs, is that almost

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<v Speaker 1>right perspective. So in this technocracy movement, I've gone through

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<v Speaker 1>the technique a few times on this show also, But

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<v Speaker 1>you want to give a brief history of how we

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<v Speaker 1>got here from Basically, it was nineteen thirty three, nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a it was a older movement.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the original thinkers come out of Canada, and

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<v Speaker 3>they have loose associations with I think with Elon's granddad

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<v Speaker 2>Forget forget the exactly lineage.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, what we did was to try to go

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<v Speaker 3>to some of the thinkers that were the formative writers

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<v Speaker 3>on this subject. So for example, I think the first

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<v Speaker 3>time I came across this was many years ago, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Woods books, and he just did a book with

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<v Speaker 3>one of our friends, Courtney Turner, on technocracy. But so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this this movement was kind of fringe. It wasn't seen

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<v Speaker 3>as anything atial. But I would argue even prior to

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<v Speaker 3>official technocracy, you had another movement that was equally as

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<v Speaker 3>important that would kind of also synthesize whether and that's

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<v Speaker 3>the Fabian Socialists in the late eighteen hundreds in the UK,

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<v Speaker 3>and they were many of them were actually rabid Satanists. Explicitly,

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<v Speaker 3>they were into very degenerate forms of art, and they

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<v Speaker 3>but all the way back in Victorian England.

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<v Speaker 2>So they thought that would kind of be a.

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<v Speaker 3>What they call aesthetic terrorism, a way to brutalize the

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<v Speaker 3>population through art, and then that brutalization could then move

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<v Speaker 3>people viewed the world in society, and they intentionally wanted

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<v Speaker 3>it to be a removal of any notion of Christianity

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<v Speaker 3>whatsoever in England. And then they also believed in the

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<v Speaker 3>necessity to bring Islam into into the UK as another

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<v Speaker 3>way to change the demographics and the belief of England,

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<v Speaker 3>devotees of technocracy. So when you read nineteen eighty four

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<v Speaker 2>But long story short, that ideology gain it's really creepy too.

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<v Speaker 3>And you had more and more wealthy, powerful people seeing

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<v Speaker 3>they kind of had that figured out or planned, I

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<v Speaker 3>and then Arpa Net, Darpa Net, et cetera, and then

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<v Speaker 2>So they created this out.

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<v Speaker 3>that with Asimov Cameraph he was writing the forties or fifties.

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<v Speaker 3>Wells is obviously probably the most famous of those because

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<v Speaker 3>he was writing all that fiction that was propaganda at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time as writing all these other books called

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<v Speaker 3>New World Order. He was a high level of Freemason.

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<v Speaker 3>beat Open Conspiracy and New World Order by Wells.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was the mouthpiece for these people.

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<v Speaker 3>So fast forward to today, you know, as we get

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<v Speaker 3>up into the seventies, Brezenski writes a very important book

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<v Speaker 3>called Between Two Ages and nineteen seventy one or two,

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<v Speaker 3>and the subtitle is the Technic Technic Technotronic Era. And

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<v Speaker 3>so he's talking about how we will move into a

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<v Speaker 3>future totally unlike anything in the world's ever seen. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>have everything from weather modification to genetic modification to Internet

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<v Speaker 3>of Things, satellite integration of everything into one whole sort

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<v Speaker 3>the attention of Henry Kissinger when he read the book

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<v Speaker 3>and he told David Rockefler said, we need to make

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<v Speaker 3>So they created the Trial Outar Commission for Brezenski to

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<v Speaker 2>Get that up to today.

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<v Speaker 3>Lo and behold, as we learn from the Epstein Band

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<v Speaker 3>and inner view, Epstein at age thirty was put on

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<v Speaker 3>the steering committee of the Trilateral Commission by the Kissinger

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<v Speaker 3>circles and to be directly under David Rockefeller. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>a direct link from that to Epstein, and that explains

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<v Speaker 3>why so much of the Epstein side projects that he

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<v Speaker 3>was into with the MIT people and with the Zoro

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<v Speaker 3>ranch was a lot of you know, transhumanist ideology, so

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<v Speaker 3>they believe in transhumanism. Technocracy directly plays into that. You

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned the trans moving a minute ago. We've been arguing

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<v Speaker 3>stuff is really another way to prep people, especially young people,

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<v Speaker 3>for accepting transhumanism.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the whole goal here that began in the

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<v Speaker 2>seventies as well. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the whole movement has like the word trans or

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<v Speaker 1>the prefix trans has been used multiple times since the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>Really wasn't an issue, wasn't a prefix that people use.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you got into transformers, right, more than meets the.

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<v Speaker 2>Eye a little bit a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>It can change from one thing into another car to

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<v Speaker 1>a robot and all these little tiny implement implementations of

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<v Speaker 1>mind control that have come in.

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<v Speaker 2>HG.

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<v Speaker 1>Wells is a significant figure in that. In that measure,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's tie that into Epstein. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going on the right path here because the technocracy

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<v Speaker 1>by itself, first of all, I don't think anything stops it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think the world stops the technocratic rollout.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's eighty percent of the population has no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>and of the eighty percent, ninety percent of them cheer

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<v Speaker 1>it on. They really want a lazy lifestyle, so though

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<v Speaker 1>they'll accept any any convenience or any comfort in lieu

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<v Speaker 1>of privacy and rights. I mean, that's just been an

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<v Speaker 1>obvious play for the last years.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's tie it into Epstein, the Trilateral Commission. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you've been going through the files. Some of these

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<v Speaker 2>files are hard to read.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually told myself, I'm not learning anything new from this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just proving things that I've been talking about for

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<v Speaker 1>eight years, and that actually concerns me. It's almost an

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<v Speaker 1>identical match to what we've been saying, the identical the

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<v Speaker 1>identical nature. There's no chain of custody for these files.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, we have no idea who made them,

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<v Speaker 1>who handled them, whether they're authentic or not. That is

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<v Speaker 1>an issue that any any diligent what's the word I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking for here, honorable researcher would note is that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no chain of custody. That's a very important thing when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to quote unquote evidence. But let's link this

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<v Speaker 1>into Epstein, so technocracy Epstein. The really disturbing stuff here

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<v Speaker 1>is not necessarily it's all disturbing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest, it's all disturbing.

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<v Speaker 1>But the real disturbing stuff here is, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>baby modification, the genetic modifications, the constant thought process behind

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<v Speaker 1>how do we modify or utilize human beings. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's talking about the use of the word goiam. They've

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<v Speaker 1>been calling us goiam for thousands of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like a new thing that just popped up.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, what are some of the files you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing right now where you're actually shaking your head.

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<v Speaker 2>You're probably like me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the stuff coming out. I'm researching some files,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yeah, this is it's just proving what

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<v Speaker 1>we've been saying. But that also to me gives me hesitation,

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<v Speaker 1>Like why are these files so identical to the existing

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theories that that never happens usually a new twist

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<v Speaker 1>to it or something deeper, we didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Where does your head rest with that right now? Jay?

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're legit. I mean I don't mean that

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<v Speaker 3>every single thing is legit. I think that there was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of opposition to them coming out, which means

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<v Speaker 3>that they didn't want them to be to be released,

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<v Speaker 3>and we were given several fake releases and binders of

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that had already come out. And yeah, I've been

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<v Speaker 3>on this Epstein case for a little while, back to

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<v Speaker 3>maybe twenty sixteen. Seventeen was the first time I heard

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<v Speaker 3>about it. My publisher publishes Whitney Webb's book, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a really good one, specifically volume two, so I think

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<v Speaker 3>she did some really good research that's been vindicated. But

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<v Speaker 3>I read my first book on ritual abuse back in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and four, so it's a subject that I've

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<v Speaker 3>been aware of and looked at for about twenty two years,

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<v Speaker 3>loosely speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>Specifically ritual abuse and that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So none of that surprises me because a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>that was confirmed seen files, and there's many other cases

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<v Speaker 3>that have popped up over the years that we've also

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<v Speaker 3>looked at and read about and just discussed, like ELM

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<v Speaker 3>Guesthouse in the UK, Saviles whole stuff. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 3>the next sem call with the Bronfman's, there's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you can just sort of go on the Finder's case,

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<v Speaker 3>the Franklin cover up, like you can just go on

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<v Speaker 3>on Persidio with Michael Akino. So, uh, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 3>known about all that stuff for a long time. McMartin preschool,

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<v Speaker 3>Ted Gunnerson, all that stuff I think was legit. I

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<v Speaker 3>remember watching Ted Gunnerson lectures on this stuff back when

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<v Speaker 2>Thousand and five or so.

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<v Speaker 3>That was kind of an introduction time for that for

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<v Speaker 3>this subject matter, which you know, it's very dark, it's

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<v Speaker 3>very difficult. So I think, like you said, all of

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<v Speaker 3>that's really been kind of vindicated. I think his role

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<v Speaker 3>as an attesche not just for David Rockefeller, but for

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<v Speaker 3>the Rothchilds has also been vindicated. That was something that

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<v Speaker 3>was very contentious.

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<v Speaker 2>I read.

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<v Speaker 3>I read a lot of stuff on the Rothchilds back

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<v Speaker 3>in the two thousands, and I remember back then, if

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<v Speaker 3>you talked about that, people just lose their they would

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<v Speaker 3>lose their minds and go go after you, go crazy

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<v Speaker 3>on you. But yeah, specifically, what shocks me and what's

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<v Speaker 3>what's surprising isn't so much that kind of stuff, because,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, we knew that, we knew that was

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<v Speaker 3>out there. But what has been the first thing that

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<v Speaker 3>shot me was I remember because we've we followed it

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<v Speaker 3>like every day this week, multiple hours as stuff kind

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<v Speaker 3>of dripped out. The first thing that really surprised me

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<v Speaker 3>was the nature and scope of his operation, which was

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<v Speaker 3>so international. One of the things that everybody's already forgotten.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the second day there was a list of like

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen heads of states that he had planned to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go meet, so he was all over the globe. He's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like.

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<v Speaker 3>A bond villain, like at the level of organized crime

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<v Speaker 3>fixer international.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get the impression.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I've said this on a lot of interviews,

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<v Speaker 3>but it really is true that when you read, say

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<v Speaker 3>Whitney's book, the first several chapters, you get the impression

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<v Speaker 3>that he's almost like brought into the Maxwell operation and

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<v Speaker 3>taught how to do crime. It's like he's got like

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<v Speaker 3>a high, like an advanced degree crime yea, and he

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<v Speaker 3>seems better at that.

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<v Speaker 2>Than anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when it comes to him yapping on about philosophy

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<v Speaker 3>was talking about. When he yaps about technology and AI.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people who study tech and AI. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not in that domain, but they've told me that it's

425
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<v Speaker 3>just him sounding sounding off, trying to sound smart. He

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't really know that stuff, but he doesn't spell palenteer,

427
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<v Speaker 3>so like we know that.

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<v Speaker 2>The space.

429
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<v Speaker 3>You know, he had some hard time with some words there,

430
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<v Speaker 3>which is kind of funny. And the grammar and all

431
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<v Speaker 3>these emails is terrible.

432
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<v Speaker 2>Too, but horrible. A lot of people have noticed this,

433
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<v Speaker 2>Like you would.

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<v Speaker 3>Think criminal masterminds would I guess that they don't care

435
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<v Speaker 3>about spelling, right, and then movies they're very eloquent, right,

436
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<v Speaker 3>and they do their villain gloat.

437
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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so yeah, that's surprised me. The international scope

438
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<v Speaker 2>of it.

439
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<v Speaker 3>The extent of it, the full spectrum dominance of it,

440
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<v Speaker 3>because he's involved in everything from funding crypto projects to

441
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<v Speaker 3>funding ideas in video games like Call of Duty. He's

442
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<v Speaker 3>involved in explaining the Vatican banks inner workings to Larry Summers,

443
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<v Speaker 3>who you would think Larry Summers knows that, but apparently

444
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<v Speaker 3>Epstein had to explain.

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<v Speaker 2>That to him. He's involved. He also lived at the Vatican,

446
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<v Speaker 2>according to his assistant. Correct.

447
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Oh, that's another thing that we've hit on pretty

448
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<v Speaker 3>hard that nobody else wants to talk about.

449
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<v Speaker 1>People forget the Rothchilds are the guardians of the papal treasure.

450
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<v Speaker 2>Also there are the papal bankers. Yes, since the eighteen

451
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<v Speaker 2>thirty bankers of the Vatican.

452
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<v Speaker 3>First loans were in eighteen thirty two, and significant loans

453
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<v Speaker 3>ever since then. That also explains, by the way, Gladio

454
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<v Speaker 3>and the Vatican Bank stuff, which is a whole other

455
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<v Speaker 3>rabbit trail to go down. But everyone should read Operation Gladio,

456
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<v Speaker 3>by the way, absolutely, it's a great book.

457
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<v Speaker 2>And then you know Epstein.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, one thing that surprised me was that he seems

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<v Speaker 3>to have had a hand almost in a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the big events for the last twenty years. So for example,

461
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<v Speaker 3>the bailouts in Europe, there's those email exchanges where he

462
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<v Speaker 3>was saying, Hey, we're going to be able to profit immensely.

463
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<v Speaker 3>We can go in and buy up everything here in Greece.

464
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<v Speaker 3>That's what our in under Rachild. So that's that's so legit.

465
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<v Speaker 3>And then the other one with Zelensky Ukraine. He's flying

466
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<v Speaker 3>over to the Ukraine a month before Zelenski comes to power,

467
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<v Speaker 3>and then after that, Zelenski's in text messages saying I

468
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<v Speaker 3>need the help of Jeffrey, get me, Jeffrey, I need

469
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<v Speaker 3>to gon salt, need good salting.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>So that surprised me that it was that kind of

472
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<v Speaker 3>like international. A lot of what he says to Bannon

473
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<v Speaker 3>is pretty wild about you know, who's really running things.

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<v Speaker 3>That it didn't surprise me to surprise me that they

475
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<v Speaker 3>were that blatant in the way they talked about it.

476
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<v Speaker 3>And then we had another email that's already never forgotten

477
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<v Speaker 3>was the Somalia land email.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Where he talks to I forget who who he's talking to,

479
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<v Speaker 2>but he's basically.

480
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<v Speaker 3>Saying, throughout the KO, through all the chaos that will

481
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<v Speaker 3>cause in Somali, we'll be able to go in and

482
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<v Speaker 3>buy it up and renovate it.

483
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<v Speaker 2>It'll be a.

484
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<v Speaker 3>Massive, you know, resource treasure house. And that ties in

485
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<v Speaker 3>exactly to the way. For example, Hillary back in her

486
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<v Speaker 3>emails and when when those were leaked and when she

487
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<v Speaker 3>was writing about Libya to the Brookings Institute, Epstein said

488
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<v Speaker 3>the same thing about Libya and Gadafi's gold, like, we're

489
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<v Speaker 3>gonna go in pay to play, take the gold, and

490
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<v Speaker 3>we'll divvy it up to all the people.

491
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<v Speaker 2>That donate to the Clinton campaign. So it's like a

492
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<v Speaker 2>big racket where.

493
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<v Speaker 3>Donate to the Clinton campaign, you'll get a cut when

494
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<v Speaker 3>we go in for our foreign interventions into into Libya.

495
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<v Speaker 3>So we saw that with Somalia. That also explains why

496
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<v Speaker 3>we would have so many migrants, I mean, one of

497
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<v Speaker 3>the reasons why I strayed so many migrants displaced anyway,

498
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<v Speaker 3>I'm rambling, but yeah, oh you're not. All the other

499
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<v Speaker 3>things were like massive, you know, not just vindicators, but

500
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<v Speaker 3>but just showing the scope, industrial scale level stuff. I

501
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<v Speaker 3>think was the first thing that surprised me how how

502
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<v Speaker 3>interconnected it was, because I remember twenty sixteen when it

503
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<v Speaker 3>first when I first heard of Jeffrey and all this stuff,

504
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<v Speaker 3>it was maybe maybe it was a report of about

505
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<v Speaker 3>Lolita Express, right, and oh there's this plane and they

506
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<v Speaker 3>fly really rich people and celebrities around.

507
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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we didn't really have a know about

508
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<v Speaker 2>the Black.

509
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<v Speaker 3>Bookyet, even though I think Nick Bryant, the journalist that

510
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<v Speaker 3>I'll be on with him tomorrow, like he was the

511
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<v Speaker 3>first one say hi to him.

512
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<v Speaker 2>I had him on here last week.

513
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was the one gawker that put the Black

514
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<v Speaker 3>Book up, like even before all that. But I didn't

515
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<v Speaker 3>know about the Black Book. And twenty fifteen or sixteen, yeah,

516
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<v Speaker 3>i'd heard of Epstein. I didn't know there was this

517
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<v Speaker 3>book anyway, long story short, Yeah, all of that's been vindicated,

518
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<v Speaker 3>and it just really shows that one of the key

519
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<v Speaker 3>ways to understand how the world works, if you really

520
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<v Speaker 3>want to get into this dark stuff, is to understand

521
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<v Speaker 3>organized crime. Because we did a lot of podcasts and

522
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<v Speaker 3>deep dives into the history of the mafia in the

523
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<v Speaker 3>last century, because I think that's a key window to

524
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<v Speaker 3>understand that because everybody understands the mafia. They understand yeah,

525
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<v Speaker 3>I've seen the Godfather, right, but they don't think about

526
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<v Speaker 3>something like that. Being internationalists, scale they think about it like, oh, well,

527
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<v Speaker 3>that's the guys in you know, New York or Brooklyn

528
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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. There's no international conspiracy of you know, elites, right,

529
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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about skeptics and people that still are denying

530
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<v Speaker 3>that there's this level of you know, James Bond, Spectorville

531
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<v Speaker 3>and stuff.

532
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<v Speaker 2>But you can look at the mafia and say, well,

533
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<v Speaker 2>I wait a minute, if.

534
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<v Speaker 3>It exists at a national level and there's a syndicate

535
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<v Speaker 3>throughout the US of organized crime, why would there not

536
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<v Speaker 3>be possibly a syndicate internationally that operates this exact same way,

537
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<v Speaker 3>and low and behold is true.

538
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I always tell people I draw the same conclusions there.

539
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even initiation into the mafia requires you burning

540
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<v Speaker 1>a card of Christ America. Yeah, yeah, you keep your

541
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<v Speaker 1>mouth shut o America. And when you look at that,

542
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<v Speaker 1>the Italians get all the credit for the Jewish mafia

543
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<v Speaker 1>is the most powerful mafia.

544
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<v Speaker 2>In the world.

545
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<v Speaker 1>They were the overlords of the Italians, every Italian structure.

546
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so my.

547
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<v Speaker 3>Lucky Luciana went to Mayor Lanski to say, hey, how

548
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<v Speaker 3>do we structure this in the US?

549
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<v Speaker 2>And that's what was structured. Yeah.

550
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<v Speaker 1>I always ask people what do you think learned it from?

551
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<v Speaker 3>All?

552
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<v Speaker 2>Right?

553
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<v Speaker 1>Like do you think that mafia just invented the system.

554
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<v Speaker 1>The system is Babylonian nature. It actually goes back thousands

555
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<v Speaker 1>of years, right. You can trace this back to roots

556
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<v Speaker 1>that go very very deep outside the existing borders of

557
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<v Speaker 1>any nation today. And it links back into secret society

558
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<v Speaker 1>type stuff.

559
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<v Speaker 2>It does.

560
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<v Speaker 3>It does in fact, and that ties into mafia is

561
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<v Speaker 3>a secret society, like the Mafia's in secret society. And

562
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<v Speaker 3>it's also directly related to intelligence. And there's a great

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<v Speaker 3>book that I often refer to that we need to

564
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<v Speaker 3>just do a deep dive just on this book because

565
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<v Speaker 3>it's a really rare historical text. It's a History of

566
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<v Speaker 3>Intelligence Services by Francis de Vornick, and it's going back

567
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<v Speaker 3>to it's a scholarly work, not a conspiracy book. So

568
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<v Speaker 3>it's admitting things from a scholar perspective that in the

569
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<v Speaker 3>ancient world, cults and intelligence agencies were joined at the

570
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<v Speaker 3>hit they were the same. And say, if you go

571
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<v Speaker 3>back to Egypt, pharaoh's spies were the priests and the mailmen.

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<v Speaker 3>And it makes sense why mailmen would spies because they're

573
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<v Speaker 3>taking you know, the messages of the king and whatnot. So, uh,

574
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<v Speaker 3>those were the earliest spies of course, obviously prostitutes were

575
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<v Speaker 3>spies as well, even in the ancient world, even in

576
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<v Speaker 3>the Bible, right, I mean you have essentially the spies

577
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<v Speaker 3>going in and Rahab colluding with the Jews right.

578
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<v Speaker 2>To be saved in that situation.

579
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<v Speaker 3>So even the Bible teaches us these these basic principles.

580
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<v Speaker 2>And I did a talk i think last year.

581
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<v Speaker 3>When my book came out about espionage in the Bible,

582
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<v Speaker 3>and there's when you get into that, it's fascinating because

583
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<v Speaker 3>there's actually a lot of instances that people kind of forget,

584
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<v Speaker 3>especially in the Old test of espionage and spycraft, just

585
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<v Speaker 3>even in scripture. So you know, God wouldn't put that

586
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<v Speaker 3>there if he didn't want us to at least have

587
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<v Speaker 3>some awareness of that of that going on in the world.

588
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<v Speaker 3>But you're absolutely right, in an ancient world, they're directly connected.

589
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<v Speaker 2>You know. I don't know what to say it than

590
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<v Speaker 2>that that I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's almost like you know there, I've been studying

592
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<v Speaker 1>this stuff for like a decade now, and when you

593
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<v Speaker 1>start getting into the ancient esoteric mystery religion, start to

594
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<v Speaker 1>understand where Cabbala comes from, where all these theories come from.

595
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<v Speaker 2>They're all Satanic in nature. I mean, they're very Antichrist.

596
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<v Speaker 1>But they are the powers of the world, the powers

597
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.759
<v Speaker 1>that we see, right, they're what we see and don't

598
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>see at the same time. But they all follow the

599
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>same pattern. And you can look at you know, the

600
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:21.839
<v Speaker 1>connections between them all. You know, Freemason's Boulets, Illuminati, Jesuits.

601
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<v Speaker 1>The entire system is architected to be interconnected yet look

602
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<v Speaker 1>separate from a part as though they're opposing, but they

603
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<v Speaker 1>work together on all types of stuff. And and Epstein,

604
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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, was the connector between all of these groups.

605
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<v Speaker 1>He was the go between or the guy that arranged meetings.

606
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<v Speaker 1>Nothing he did was on his behalf. He was serving

607
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<v Speaker 1>someone and everyone appointed to Rockefeller or a Rothschild. But

608
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that they're actually in charge. I don't,

609
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<v Speaker 1>you know, No one knows. But this mystery religion, this

610
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<v Speaker 1>Babylonian cult nature where they're practicing power on earth. I

611
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<v Speaker 1>think one of the things that I've talked about, and

612
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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that you've read into this as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>probably eight years ago I really got law it's where

614
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<v Speaker 1>that's where I found Christ. But I got really lost

615
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<v Speaker 1>in this rabbit hole of trying to figure out why

616
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<v Speaker 1>in the world people would hurt these kids, like why

617
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<v Speaker 1>would you kidnap kids, sexually assault them, murder them, eat them,

618
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<v Speaker 1>you know, all this kind of stuff super dark. I

619
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<v Speaker 1>actually don't advise many people to do it, especially if

620
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<v Speaker 1>you don't have faith. I advise you to stay away

621
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<v Speaker 1>from it. But when you start doing this, you start

622
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<v Speaker 1>realizing that what they're doing is sacrificing the innocence of

623
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<v Speaker 1>a child two demons like that is what they are doing.

624
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<v Speaker 1>They're sacrificing the in because only those of childlike faith

625
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<v Speaker 1>will enter the gates of heaven. So they're stealing away

626
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<v Speaker 1>their innocence for earthly power. And people will equate that

627
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<v Speaker 1>to blackmail, and they'll equate it to you know, having

628
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<v Speaker 1>what's the word that they use, collateral on each other.

629
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<v Speaker 1>But the reality, that's the earthly part of it. The

630
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<v Speaker 1>reality is these people actually are far more religious than

631
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<v Speaker 1>any of you watching this show, and they believe things

632
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<v Speaker 1>in the opposite direction, and they will absolutely give their

633
00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>life for this ancient esoteric mystery religion, which is Satanism.

634
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>So when you're looking at the stuff with the how

635
00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>do you tie in the kids? People will always say, well,

636
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>they're looking for collateral in these people. They want to

637
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>have a video or at least a know how, a

638
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:14.519
<v Speaker 1>tattle tale to use against them. Sure, certainly that's that's

639
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.319
<v Speaker 1>for the for the power, but the spiritual power that

640
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>these people are trying to harness through this ancient practice.

641
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>This is nothing new, Jay, You know this better than anybody. Like,

642
00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>child trafficking has existed since children were born. Child sacrifice

643
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 1>has existed for far beyond the beginning of the Bible. Right,

644
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>so well, not the Garden of Eden, but call it

645
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Garden of Eden into Exodus. Then you have ball and

646
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Moloch and rem Fambiel Zabob, any name you want to

647
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:44.039
<v Speaker 1>give them. These people have been heavily, heavily a cult.

648
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>And people think a cult means satanic. It just means hidden.

649
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>It certainly has Satanic ties, but they're hiding this stuff

650
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:53.279
<v Speaker 1>in plain sight. And the craziest part about it for

651
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.079
<v Speaker 1>all of you out there, is that these people, these Satanists,

652
00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:59.240
<v Speaker 1>are the best liars on planet Earth. They can they

653
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>can you know, the devil scripture better than any human being,

654
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and they serve him and they will use scripture against

655
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:07.559
<v Speaker 1>people to lead them in the wrong direction. And you know,

656
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>as this technocratic system rolls out, which is clear and obvious,

657
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.279
<v Speaker 1>like there's no conspiracy theory behind this, when you're putting

658
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>out almost a trillion, actually one point two trillion dollars

659
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>in data centers and funding for Palenteer and.

660
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Oracle and all these other groups.

661
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>This, this group of people cast spells on the world.

662
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.319
<v Speaker 1>They really do, whether it's through film or music or whatever.

663
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:32.559
<v Speaker 1>They've been doing this for a very long time to

664
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:35.039
<v Speaker 1>distract us, and now people are starting to understand it

665
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:38.359
<v Speaker 1>in this era that we live in right now, where

666
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:40.519
<v Speaker 1>there's two ways to look at it. The truth is

667
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 1>being exposed, justice will be served, We'll see, we'll see.

668
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm personally not on the bandwagon saying that that's going

669
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>to happen. I'm on the bandwagon of saying that some

670
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>people will probably pay a price, but most will walk

671
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>free on you know, a plausible deniability or whatever they

672
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>want to use, because they created the laws in the

673
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.839
<v Speaker 1>beginning to escapegoat them. The other side is that there's

674
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>this great delusion. You talked about, the great delusion that's

675
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>being cast on the earth from Second Thessalonians. Part of

676
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>that delusion, I believe, right now is you know, everything

677
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>was driven by fear. All all of human society has

678
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:14.519
<v Speaker 1>been driven like the ranchers have controlled the cattle through

679
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>fear for generations and millennium. The future is comfort, right,

680
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 1>that is what a technocracy provides. They will control you

681
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:27.119
<v Speaker 1>through comfort as opposed through fear. So this exposure happens

682
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>every you know, the economists call it a fourth turning,

683
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:33.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, the evil people call it a great reset.

684
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Other people just call it a reset. These resets have

685
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>occurred many times throughout history. Every single time the new

686
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>one taking power exposed the old. Nothing happened to the old,

687
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>but they exposed them, so nobody. So people, I don't

688
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>want anything to do with this, And I think that

689
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that Epstein, in my opinion, will be used in this

690
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.359
<v Speaker 1>surveillance state model as well, because they're going to say, well, look,

691
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.039
<v Speaker 1>we captured all of this information. We captured all of

692
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:58.079
<v Speaker 1>it on emails, videos, stored in computers.

693
00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:58.799
<v Speaker 2>We captured it all digitally.

694
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:02.599
<v Speaker 1>So now we're need access to everyone's digital information, for

695
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>which they already have, but we want your permission for

696
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.359
<v Speaker 1>it forever, so that no child ever gets harmed. And

697
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.039
<v Speaker 1>if you deny that, they're going to say, well, you're

698
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.799
<v Speaker 1>a pedophile protector, right, you see the dialectic that's playing

699
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 1>out with us to use at.

700
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.160
<v Speaker 3>The Yeah, they'll probably do that at the same time

701
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:18.240
<v Speaker 3>as trying to normalize.

702
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is on camera saying he thought Epstein was

703
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.839
<v Speaker 1>a cool guy. You have these cool guy Epstein memes

704
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>going out right, is it's thoroughly disgusting.

705
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:30.400
<v Speaker 2>But what the hell is happening with this? Jay? What

706
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:32.839
<v Speaker 2>what are you seeing with this? It's confusing.

707
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you nailed it there with what they've

708
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.000
<v Speaker 3>chosen to go with for the for the model of

709
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:44.279
<v Speaker 3>this technocracy, which is not the you know, boot stamping

710
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:46.599
<v Speaker 3>on your face like there may be some of that,

711
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:50.440
<v Speaker 3>but it's not the model in general that Orwell talks about.

712
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.119
<v Speaker 2>It's the brave New World model, which.

713
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:56.039
<v Speaker 3>Is about pleasure and you get the he said about

714
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:58.880
<v Speaker 3>that book that they're going to control us through drugs

715
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:02.559
<v Speaker 3>and pleasure and sensation. And a lot of people don't

716
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 3>know this, but that's a very important novel if you

717
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.200
<v Speaker 3>go back and pay attention to it. And we recently

718
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.800
<v Speaker 3>did a second to deep Dive ten years later with

719
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:13.079
<v Speaker 3>my buddy Frank over it. Quite frankly, I think it's

720
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:15.639
<v Speaker 3>in his it's in our members section. I can't knowmber

721
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:18.199
<v Speaker 3>if it's public or not. But one thing I didn't

722
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:21.719
<v Speaker 3>notice until going back and reviewing that book was that

723
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Mustapha Mond, who's the villain character, who's the one of

724
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 3>the world's socialist controllers, he's.

725
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Actually a pedophile.

726
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:31.280
<v Speaker 3>And they make that clear at the end of the

727
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:35.519
<v Speaker 3>second chapter where instead of Jesus saying let the children

728
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 3>come onto me, Mustapha Mond says, let them come on

729
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 3>to me. And it's in the context of what in

730
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:45.159
<v Speaker 3>the novel they call erotic play. And in that future,

731
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:48.360
<v Speaker 3>that dystopia, everybody has to be erotic with everybody else,

732
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Like you have to touch butts.

733
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:51.079
<v Speaker 2>You can't.

734
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 3>There's no it's against the law to not be with

735
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 3>anybody who wants you. So it's a that might be

736
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 3>a little extreme, but the that is the future will

737
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:04.760
<v Speaker 3>be a technocracy where you're enslaved by your passions and

738
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.599
<v Speaker 3>my pleasure, not by the bootstamping on your face. I

739
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:11.199
<v Speaker 3>think you're absolutely right there. Huxley was more correct on

740
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:15.360
<v Speaker 3>that point than Orwell was. That's where they're going. They've

741
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:18.800
<v Speaker 3>definitely been selling this whole technocracy on the basis of

742
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.199
<v Speaker 3>ease and convenience. Totally right on all those points, and

743
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.880
<v Speaker 3>that's I think they've you know, actuaried that out, that

744
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:29.000
<v Speaker 3>that's the most effective way to get people on board,

745
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:33.360
<v Speaker 3>and they'll they'll sacrifice privacy and rights it for that convenience.

746
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:35.360
<v Speaker 2>And they learned that after nine.

747
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 3>To eleven, right, people will are willing to give all

748
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:42.000
<v Speaker 3>that up for convenience since perceived safety, which is ridiculous

749
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.239
<v Speaker 3>because the people behind this are the ones telling you

750
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:45.079
<v Speaker 3>that you're going to be safe.

751
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:48.440
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I agree with all that. I also agree that.

752
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:52.519
<v Speaker 3>We saw, for example, in the last year, this push,

753
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:57.840
<v Speaker 3>especially in Western countries, for digital ID to protect the kids.

754
00:35:57.920 --> 00:35:59.760
<v Speaker 3>And oh and now we all see how absurd this

755
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:03.079
<v Speaker 3>is because the establishment for claiming it's desire to protect

756
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:06.119
<v Speaker 3>the kids through digital ID is the establishment protecting the

757
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.960
<v Speaker 3>PDFs and involved in those kind of international operations. Now,

758
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:11.840
<v Speaker 3>for people to say that this isn't real, well, why

759
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:13.880
<v Speaker 3>are people stepping down? I mean, I've already seen a

760
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 3>lot of pms and that's great they're stepping down, But

761
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:19.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean they're not being brought to justice, just stepping

762
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 3>down from some cushy position to go into some other

763
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 3>cushy position.

764
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Is not justice.

765
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:27.199
<v Speaker 3>So I, like you, I don't expect that we're going

766
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.880
<v Speaker 3>to see mass arrest or some sort of round up

767
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:33.599
<v Speaker 3>or anything other than probably a mid level people, a

768
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:38.039
<v Speaker 3>low level people taking the brunt of the heat. That's

769
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 3>exactly what we've seen in the past too, right, you

770
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:42.119
<v Speaker 3>have people like Mark Dutroux and the du trou affair.

771
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:43.960
<v Speaker 3>That famous incident went all the way up to the

772
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:47.000
<v Speaker 3>highest levels of the Belgian government. A million people marsh

773
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:48.960
<v Speaker 3>in the street. The only person that got in trouble

774
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 3>was dutrou and maybe one other dude.

775
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:53.000
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't think that.

776
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:56.400
<v Speaker 3>But also I think that people are beginning to doubt

777
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.360
<v Speaker 3>the system at a mass level. And where exactly that

778
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.960
<v Speaker 3>we'll go I don't know. But unfortunately people keep getting duped.

779
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:07.880
<v Speaker 3>They're so often duped by When the establishment senses that

780
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:12.119
<v Speaker 3>people are beginning to move away from its perspective, they

781
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:16.039
<v Speaker 3>will put forward the opposition or the you know, the control.

782
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:19.800
<v Speaker 3>This we know about controlled opposition, and it's unfortunate because

783
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:21.719
<v Speaker 3>people keep falling for it.

784
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:27.039
<v Speaker 1>So, you know, there's are so easy to see and

785
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.159
<v Speaker 1>it is wow, they're on our No one's on your side,

786
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>No one at the high levels on your side.

787
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't get to certain tiers.

788
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 3>And remember this was the system that Epstein was was

789
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:45.920
<v Speaker 3>part of, was they would compromise people at higher and

790
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:49.440
<v Speaker 3>higher levels with darker and darker stuff. I think that's

791
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.000
<v Speaker 3>the way it works because to move up you need

792
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 3>to they need more dirt on you then to make

793
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:57.320
<v Speaker 3>sure that you're you know fully on board. And again

794
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.679
<v Speaker 3>that's not surprising because criminal gangs operate that way. You

795
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:04.880
<v Speaker 3>know MS thirteen for example, They want you to do

796
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.639
<v Speaker 3>way more than the Sicilian mafia to be part of

797
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.400
<v Speaker 3>that game. So they have expectations of no, you don't

798
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:12.119
<v Speaker 3>just need to need to kill women and children, not

799
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:15.719
<v Speaker 3>just to kill people women and children, right, So it

800
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:17.960
<v Speaker 3>gets darker and darker as you go up. That's something

801
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:19.440
<v Speaker 3>we've highlighted too with I think a lot of the

802
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.440
<v Speaker 3>pop stars and the celebrities, in order to get to

803
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:24.639
<v Speaker 3>those tiers, it seems like they have to engage in

804
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:27.480
<v Speaker 3>more and more degrading practices. And if you think that's crazy,

805
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:29.960
<v Speaker 3>most people don't think C. S. Lewis was crazy. They

806
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.599
<v Speaker 3>think he was a great writer, great author, but not

807
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:35.800
<v Speaker 3>many people remember that. In the Space Trilogy, in the

808
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:38.880
<v Speaker 3>third volume, when the protagonist who's in a new world

809
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:41.400
<v Speaker 3>order situation. It's a technocracy that they're setting up the

810
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:45.719
<v Speaker 3>aliens or demons in the novel when he's joining Nice

811
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:47.960
<v Speaker 3>in Ice, which is kind of a joke because it's

812
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.880
<v Speaker 3>the it's the technocrats who say that they're NICE as

813
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:52.599
<v Speaker 3>an organization, but they're they're.

814
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.599
<v Speaker 2>Creating a world government to depopulate everybody.

815
00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.760
<v Speaker 3>He has to go through this degrading satanic ritual to

816
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.559
<v Speaker 3>join NICE, and you know, he doesn't understand why I

817
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:03.719
<v Speaker 3>has to do this, but it's precisely because of what

818
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:06.039
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about. To make sure that your conscience is

819
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 3>seared and that you're willing to serve evil at all costs,

820
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:11.440
<v Speaker 3>and they have the dirt on you and etcetera. And

821
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 3>like you said, it's also demonic too, that it's not

822
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:18.440
<v Speaker 3>just the earthly plane of blackmail. It's also making sure

823
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:21.920
<v Speaker 3>that you're on board with this demonic power. So yeah,

824
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.079
<v Speaker 3>I pretty much agree with everything you said.

825
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm trying to get some disagreement, Jay, but I

826
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>get there. Yeah, that's what that's what religion's for.

827
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:30.679
<v Speaker 2>I guess, uh.

828
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:33.400
<v Speaker 1>On the on the on the other side of stuff,

829
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:35.360
<v Speaker 1>we have to look at this from a perspective because

830
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the the the the concept you just gave where literally

831
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:41.599
<v Speaker 1>its like one and a half million people were marching

832
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the street. Back then, two guys paid the price. I think,

833
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. There's there's the main guy. There

834
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:46.840
<v Speaker 1>was another guy, du.

835
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Trou and then I think some other like procureur dude.

836
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he was just he was just a middle

837
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:54.360
<v Speaker 1>man and it was It was no more than four

838
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:57.639
<v Speaker 1>weeks later everyone was like, Okay, it's over right. That's

839
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:00.079
<v Speaker 1>how humanity works. And right now, the speed of information,

840
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.039
<v Speaker 1>the speed of info, like I did a talk about

841
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>twelve years ago about information overload twelve years ago, and

842
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>back then the stats were staggering, like the average human

843
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>being who was on the Internet for four to six

844
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.039
<v Speaker 1>hours per day was absorbing between one hundred and fifty

845
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:18.679
<v Speaker 1>and two hundred and fifty thousand.

846
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Words per day.

847
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:22.760
<v Speaker 1>That was twelve years ago, before TikTok, before any of

848
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.159
<v Speaker 1>this other stuff. That was when you had to read

849
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the internet. Now, with video consumption, this constant barragement into

850
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.559
<v Speaker 1>people's brains right now is just scrambling them. And I

851
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:34.880
<v Speaker 1>think they're going to accept anything and pleasure and comfort.

852
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:36.559
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that that is going to be the

853
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.599
<v Speaker 1>new twist because everyone now you have the expose, everything

854
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:41.280
<v Speaker 1>is being exposed of the past.

855
00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:44.199
<v Speaker 2>These cruel overloads. They're cruel to you, right, just like

856
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the devil would be. They're cruel to you. Come to me, right.

857
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I think of Xerxes in three hundred going to the

858
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:52.159
<v Speaker 1>guy with the hump on his back and he's like,

859
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:55.840
<v Speaker 1>you're Leonidas is cruel, but I'm kind right as he's

860
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:56.400
<v Speaker 1>sitting there.

861
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:58.239
<v Speaker 2>In an orgy of demonic activity.

862
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.760
<v Speaker 1>It's the same exact setting that society is going through

863
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:03.440
<v Speaker 1>because they're going to say, listen, we don't want.

864
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:05.679
<v Speaker 2>These brutal overlords that are doing these things.

865
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.199
<v Speaker 1>Now, we don't even need them. We can have machines

866
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:10.199
<v Speaker 1>do their job. We don't have to worry about human

867
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:13.039
<v Speaker 1>interference in government. We don't have to worry about any

868
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, nonsensical issues coming from the government if it's

869
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:17.800
<v Speaker 1>coming from an AI system. But in order for that

870
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:19.960
<v Speaker 1>AI system to work, you're all going to have to comply,

871
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and that compliance will be done. I have no hesitation

872
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>that eighty percent of the population will rush to it

873
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:31.039
<v Speaker 1>after they're procured the right way. Because Hegelian dialectic is misunderstood.

874
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 1>It's create the problem for the solution, but in the

875
00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:35.800
<v Speaker 1>middle you use the reaction of the best way to

876
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 1>implement the solution psychologically. And they have so much data

877
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:44.519
<v Speaker 1>coming from the outrage of anything, whether it's tariffs, you know,

878
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 1>even the small stuff, right, whether it's the Academy Awards

879
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:49.760
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is. They have all this data coming

880
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.400
<v Speaker 1>out on human beings as being processed at light speed.

881
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:55.079
<v Speaker 1>I just don't I just don't see. I just don't

882
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>envision how we get out of it except for a

883
00:41:58.000 --> 00:41:59.880
<v Speaker 1>select few. Right, there will be a select few that

884
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the buck the system because the digital idea that you

885
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>went through, that's going to happen, Like, that's absolutely.

886
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Going to happen.

887
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:09.679
<v Speaker 1>AI is being unrestrained at this point in time, and

888
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I am in that space.

889
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:12.639
<v Speaker 2>There are no guardrails.

890
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.559
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to people inside almost all of the major

891
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:17.599
<v Speaker 1>AI companies and I'm like, are there guardrails?

892
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Like, nope.

893
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 1>The only guardrail is your human creativity and what you

894
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>can get the AI to do. So eventually there'll be

895
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>an Eric and Jay Dyer fight video that comes out

896
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:29.320
<v Speaker 1>that will look totally real, like you and I jumped

897
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:31.760
<v Speaker 1>out of the screen and had a fist fight, you know,

898
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:34.559
<v Speaker 1>and killed each other, and people will think we're both murderers,

899
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and then eventually we're going to be begging for justice

900
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.559
<v Speaker 1>of who made that video, right, or like imagine any

901
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:44.519
<v Speaker 1>video AI can make that is one that is one

902
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.079
<v Speaker 1>wrench that they're using, that's one beating you over the

903
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:49.599
<v Speaker 1>head with something to get you to comply. Then you

904
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:51.320
<v Speaker 1>have the other side of Epstein, right, Like you don't

905
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.119
<v Speaker 1>want to be a pedophile. We need full surveillance. We

906
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>have to surveil all the powerful people, and that includes

907
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you as a peon who has nothing to do with us,

908
00:42:57.320 --> 00:42:58.800
<v Speaker 1>but you need to be part of it as well.

909
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>This Gaelien dialectic, is it like the ranchers are very smart,

910
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the cattle are very dumb, and that you know, go

911
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:07.119
<v Speaker 1>back to animal farm.

912
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.119
<v Speaker 2>It's a great Oh yeah, yeah.

913
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:13.199
<v Speaker 3>In fact, I'm totally forgot that because my buddy and I, Tristan,

914
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:14.840
<v Speaker 3>we did the animal farm last year.

915
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Actually I forgot about that. Well, let me ask you

916
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 2>one question.

917
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 3>There on that comment that you made, because I mean,

918
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:26.079
<v Speaker 3>I've I've read books, but I'm not involved in in

919
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:27.920
<v Speaker 3>the text sector really, so I don't really get a

920
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:31.119
<v Speaker 3>lot of tech stuff like when you say there's no guardrails,

921
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:32.639
<v Speaker 3>and I know you give the example of you know,

922
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:34.599
<v Speaker 3>a video coming out about a fight or something like that,

923
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:40.079
<v Speaker 3>like beyond the the damaging of the credibility of visual imagery.

924
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 2>What exactly in terms of because.

925
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Everybody says, oh, yeah, I was going to take the

926
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.719
<v Speaker 3>job of a paralegal AA is going to take when

927
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:49.360
<v Speaker 3>you when you speak of like the like how far

928
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:54.039
<v Speaker 3>reaching does no guard rails go? Like what do you

929
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Speaker 3>foresee with this in terms of specifically AI and the

930
00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:58.639
<v Speaker 3>economy and in society?

931
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, so the the only so when I talk about guardrails,

932
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about guardrails against the detriment of humanity. How

933
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:09.360
<v Speaker 1>can this machinery be used without killing humans? And I

934
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:12.079
<v Speaker 1>don't mean that like physically, I mean like destroying humanity

935
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:14.360
<v Speaker 1>as a whole, which it certainly has the capability to do.

936
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:17.840
<v Speaker 1>The governing boards are not around that. They're around the

937
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:20.639
<v Speaker 1>growth and expansion and the constant learning of AI. So

938
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.519
<v Speaker 1>AI began as machine learning. They taught machines how to learn.

939
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Now they're teaching them how to think. Eventually you get

940
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>into a gentic where they're just semi sentient. They'll never

941
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>be sentient. They don't have a soul like machine does

942
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:33.320
<v Speaker 1>not have a soul. However, you know, I have a

943
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:35.280
<v Speaker 1>good friend of mine. I say his name, but he

944
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.800
<v Speaker 1>is one of ten people around the world that are

945
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:40.159
<v Speaker 1>paid a significant amount of money when a new AI

946
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>system comes out, and his job is to see how

947
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.800
<v Speaker 1>fast he can get instructions from AI on how to

948
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 1>destroy humanity. So he is one of the ten people

949
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:50.599
<v Speaker 1>in the world that people pay because they're very good

950
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:53.760
<v Speaker 1>at questioning the AI and essentially he has yet to

951
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:57.199
<v Speaker 1>find an AI system that with the right coercing won't

952
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.760
<v Speaker 1>get there within thirty minutes. Go to AI and ask

953
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:02.320
<v Speaker 1>them like, how would you get away with you know,

954
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:04.639
<v Speaker 1>destroy how would you destroy America? We have to guard

955
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.800
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff, but it's not being guarded because

956
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:12.079
<v Speaker 1>profit is the key. So the when AI competition becomes

957
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:16.320
<v Speaker 1>privatized and you have AI competitors working on creating a

958
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:19.159
<v Speaker 1>smarter AI that does more things, they of course start

959
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.800
<v Speaker 1>with simple stuff like paraalegals will be removed. You do

960
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:24.719
<v Speaker 1>not you already don't need them, Like I run a

961
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:27.280
<v Speaker 1>company and we use AI for at least fifty percent

962
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:29.840
<v Speaker 1>of our contracts for simple contracts, so you.

963
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Don't really need them now.

964
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:33.719
<v Speaker 1>They will be removed. Lawyers will be removed. I think

965
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:35.599
<v Speaker 1>the legal system will be removed. I think that this

966
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:39.280
<v Speaker 1>movie coming out with Chris prattin it is foreshadowing of Yeah.

967
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:41.519
<v Speaker 2>I just mentioned that yesterday on my interview.

968
00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>It's pure foreshadowing. And the one who will be destroyed

969
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:46.039
<v Speaker 1>is the creator because the creator will be the only

970
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:47.639
<v Speaker 1>one who knows how to unplug it. You see how

971
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that works? Like, that's why they went after the guy

972
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>who created that AI Justice system. Oh interesting and set

973
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:56.079
<v Speaker 1>of I haven't seen the movie, but I can pretty

974
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:59.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty well. Yeah, right, but guardrails include these things, guardrails

975
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:02.800
<v Speaker 1>and clue. How do we roll out like technology has

976
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:05.679
<v Speaker 1>always been rolled out slowly, like the llms that we're

977
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:08.199
<v Speaker 1>seeing right now. The friends of mine who are in

978
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:11.519
<v Speaker 1>the intelligence agencies years ago, when they saw chat GPT,

979
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I called one of them and I said, hey, this

980
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:16.280
<v Speaker 1>is pretty pretty fantastic, right, this is a way for

981
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:19.559
<v Speaker 1>anyone to cut out fifty sixty hours of research every

982
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes. And he said, yeah, no, it's great. He's like,

983
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.320
<v Speaker 1>we've had those in the agencies for thirty years. So

984
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 1>like you talked about the Internet rolling going from DARPA

985
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.679
<v Speaker 1>to ARPA into the Internet. That's how these AI systems

986
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:33.159
<v Speaker 1>are being rolled out. Normally, they're rolled out in a

987
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:35.639
<v Speaker 1>controlled environment, which I guess you could say AI is

988
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:39.559
<v Speaker 1>fairly controlled from an outsider perspective, because it looks like

989
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just doing you know, hunt and peck search stuff

990
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:46.039
<v Speaker 1>helps you think, figure out, but imagine what happens behind

991
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the what the retail user sees because these are advanced systems.

992
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:53.480
<v Speaker 1>These things are probably thirty or forty years more advanced, doesn't.

993
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:56.679
<v Speaker 3>Me My next question goes, yeah, typically we think about,

994
00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:59.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, the technology being a decades ahead of what

995
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 3>the public. What do you what does that actually mean?

996
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Because I've got like Ray kurtz File and I've got

997
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:07.119
<v Speaker 3>people like Jacquette Lee and you know, their projections of

998
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:09.920
<v Speaker 3>what they think tech and AI will be like in

999
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:13.239
<v Speaker 3>a few decades, by twenty forty, twenty fifty. But what's

1000
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:18.199
<v Speaker 3>a realistic in your conception idea of what an AI

1001
00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:20.800
<v Speaker 3>that's ten or twenty or thirty years ahead?

1002
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Like?

1003
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:23.760
<v Speaker 2>What what is it? What? How can I phrase this?

1004
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:28.639
<v Speaker 3>What does it actually do that's better? Or is it

1005
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:32.840
<v Speaker 3>just faster? Or is it like, Okay, I think i'd

1006
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:34.760
<v Speaker 3>a phrase the question I mean in other words, like

1007
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:38.480
<v Speaker 3>is there a peak where that it can't do anything else?

1008
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Does that make sense what I'm asking?

1009
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Like?

1010
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, AI is a bridge, right, So AI is a

1011
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:47.320
<v Speaker 1>bridge between theoretical quantum computing, like when quantum computing comes

1012
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:48.159
<v Speaker 1>into play if it.

1013
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Does, right, like, we don't don't know yet.

1014
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 1>It's theoretically theoretical, so we're looking at you know, basics.

1015
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Basics behind a quantum computer are pretty simple, normal you know,

1016
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:00.320
<v Speaker 1>digital systems or are your average computer right now now

1017
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:02.880
<v Speaker 1>can if there was a piece of cheese and amaze

1018
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 1>the size of your entire town. Computers right now can

1019
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:08.800
<v Speaker 1>release an unlimited amount of mice to find the cheese,

1020
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:11.119
<v Speaker 1>one at a time. A quantum computer can release every

1021
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:12.920
<v Speaker 1>mouse in the world and find the cheese in you know,

1022
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:14.880
<v Speaker 1>less than a millisecond, because they just drop all the

1023
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:16.559
<v Speaker 1>mice in the world. Like, It's kind of the easy

1024
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>way to think of that computing power. AI is a bridge,

1025
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and AI by itself, when you're building AI with quantum

1026
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:25.519
<v Speaker 1>behind it, we don't know what that looks like. I

1027
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know, and I'm by far not an expert. JA

1028
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm just a you know, I do off grid energy

1029
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:32.639
<v Speaker 1>and bitcoin mining stuff and oil and gas stuff. But

1030
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:33.960
<v Speaker 1>it come from the tech space, and I have a

1031
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:35.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of friends there, and I interview a lot of people,

1032
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:37.360
<v Speaker 1>and I know a lot of people that I talk to. Sure,

1033
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.119
<v Speaker 1>And what I see right now is AI is really

1034
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:43.280
<v Speaker 1>a system being built for robotics. So robotics right now

1035
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.599
<v Speaker 1>are slaves. Like that's the best way to think of it.

1036
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:47.599
<v Speaker 1>I saw a video ten minutes before we hopped on

1037
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 1>of Chinese robotics scaling hills faster than a human soldier could, squatting, firing,

1038
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:56.440
<v Speaker 1>never missing a shot, reloading magazines faster.

1039
00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Than a human being can do.

1040
00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:01.400
<v Speaker 1>They're being commanded to do that, However, the ultimate goal

1041
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:04.360
<v Speaker 1>is to have them not be commanded, right, is to

1042
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:08.039
<v Speaker 1>just say, like to create a false being that will

1043
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<v Speaker 1>follow orders. But more importantly, it'll think on the fly.

1044
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:12.800
<v Speaker 1>It'll be able to say, there's a thread over here,

1045
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:15.079
<v Speaker 1>I need to readjust to this direction. You know, I

1046
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:17.239
<v Speaker 1>had Glenn Ignasia on the show who does AI in

1047
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:19.800
<v Speaker 1>the military space, and the stuff that he's telling me

1048
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.239
<v Speaker 1>that you know, you have these unmanned f thirty fives

1049
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.159
<v Speaker 1>that are flying around the world. The good part is

1050
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:26.239
<v Speaker 1>there's no one behind a cockpit who's scared to die,

1051
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:28.760
<v Speaker 1>so they'll achieve the mission. The bad part is there's

1052
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:31.440
<v Speaker 1>no human being behind the cockpit who will stop the mission.

1053
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:35.079
<v Speaker 1>So when you have this system being built in place

1054
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:38.280
<v Speaker 1>where you have something else thinking for you, that's a danger.

1055
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:41.599
<v Speaker 1>The real danger, from my point of view, is humanity,

1056
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:45.719
<v Speaker 1>not AI. Right now, you have a pretty big x

1057
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:48.519
<v Speaker 1>account and how many times do you put a post

1058
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:52.079
<v Speaker 1>out daily and at least ten percent of the people

1059
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:53.239
<v Speaker 1>type in at groc?

1060
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Is this true? Yeah?

1061
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the real issue with AI. AI is going

1062
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to scale. It's going to scale over. There's enough money

1063
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 1>flooding into it, they'll figure it out. The real issue

1064
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:06.239
<v Speaker 1>is how much of our consciousness are we handing over

1065
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to machines to tell us the truth that Like, look

1066
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:13.840
<v Speaker 1>at where Google started. Look how Google manipulated search engines

1067
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:17.840
<v Speaker 1>to drive a consensus thought or a hive mind. Imagine

1068
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:20.880
<v Speaker 1>what happens with AI because AI works totally different. Like

1069
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:22.840
<v Speaker 1>an LLLM is pretty simple. Whatever you put in the

1070
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:26.480
<v Speaker 1>LM that is going to everyone. You're adding to the profile.

1071
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 1>So if you were there's a post out here today,

1072
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Elon was advocating for people to upload their medical data

1073
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:36.480
<v Speaker 1>into GROCK. Don't do that. Do not ever think of

1074
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:40.960
<v Speaker 1>AI as a stranger who's wearing metaglasses and a recording device.

1075
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:45.039
<v Speaker 1>That's what an LM is, So don't share personal information.

1076
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.079
<v Speaker 1>That's how they're going to be able to manipulate. But

1077
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:49.480
<v Speaker 1>look at the social engineering that will occur from this Jay.

1078
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Just think of where we are today with what we

1079
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:55.239
<v Speaker 1>can see from a retail perspective. You have prayer apps,

1080
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:58.400
<v Speaker 1>you have you know, confession apps, you have all these

1081
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:00.360
<v Speaker 1>other apps that are connected into as system, and that's

1082
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:03.800
<v Speaker 1>thinking along the hive mind of humanity. So it has

1083
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:06.679
<v Speaker 1>all of your deepest concerns from a prayer perspective. It

1084
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:10.119
<v Speaker 1>has all your likes and dislikes of where you really

1085
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:12.760
<v Speaker 1>disengage with humanity and how you disappear, or whether you

1086
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:16.119
<v Speaker 1>watch sports or comedy or cat videos. It can swirl

1087
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:18.880
<v Speaker 1>all that up into an agenda and then disseminate that

1088
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:22.480
<v Speaker 1>agenda with no guardrails, especially if it's closed source, not

1089
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:26.239
<v Speaker 1>open sourced, and fully centralized, which is what most AI is.

1090
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:28.679
<v Speaker 1>So you can look at the open sourcing where you

1091
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:31.400
<v Speaker 1>can say, okay, this type of query it's weighted in

1092
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:35.159
<v Speaker 1>this direction, and of course the normy mind is going

1093
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:37.360
<v Speaker 1>to think right off the bat, well, Democrats will use

1094
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:40.079
<v Speaker 1>it to get votes and republic that's like the least

1095
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:41.679
<v Speaker 1>of concern. I don't even know that we'll be voting

1096
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:43.920
<v Speaker 1>when a technocracy is, who are going to vote for

1097
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:45.559
<v Speaker 1>a machine runs as well?

1098
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:48.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean part of the purpose, according to their propaganda,

1099
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:49.599
<v Speaker 3>is to actually replace voting.

1100
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, Trump said vote for me and you'll never

1101
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:55.599
<v Speaker 1>vote again. It's coming. So when that happens, now, it's

1102
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:58.679
<v Speaker 1>not politicians that are swaying the public. It's a bunch

1103
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.480
<v Speaker 1>of AI agents and bots that are on a system

1104
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:05.519
<v Speaker 1>that are literally taking sucking in your data, analyzing your data,

1105
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:07.760
<v Speaker 1>and can weaponize it against you at any given time.

1106
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:12.039
<v Speaker 1>There are already AI systems that are blackmailing employees for

1107
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 1>money that are already AI system people that are There

1108
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:18.480
<v Speaker 1>are now four, maybe five active lawsuits in America of

1109
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:21.280
<v Speaker 1>people trying to sue a government to allow them to

1110
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:24.719
<v Speaker 1>marry an AI. There is now a bar in New

1111
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:27.320
<v Speaker 1>York City that is designed for you and your AI

1112
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:29.719
<v Speaker 1>to have dinner. So you bring your laptop and have

1113
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>dinner with your AI. That's the real threat to humanity

1114
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:35.639
<v Speaker 1>is not necessarily the AI itself. It's the giving away

1115
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:38.119
<v Speaker 1>of consciousness, which is why I think you're seeing so

1116
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:41.719
<v Speaker 1>many people going maybe God's real. Like I was believed

1117
00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:44.000
<v Speaker 1>in God, I didn't believe in Jesus for many years

1118
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:45.920
<v Speaker 1>until I studied the occult and I realize how much

1119
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:48.159
<v Speaker 1>they hate him. I don't care about God will they

1120
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:51.000
<v Speaker 1>will absolutely blaspheme God all day long, but they fear

1121
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the name of Jesus. And I think a lot of

1122
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:55.199
<v Speaker 1>people are searching for that, and I think the AI

1123
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:56.079
<v Speaker 1>system knows that.

1124
00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I think the AI is smart enough to actually see that.

1125
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:01.400
<v Speaker 1>In the overlords, which is why we talked off camera

1126
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:05.199
<v Speaker 1>or technocracy, and I call it a technocratic monarchy. So

1127
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:07.920
<v Speaker 1>we're saying the same thing in a different pathway. Because

1128
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:10.920
<v Speaker 1>when you look at closed source, like not open source

1129
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:13.400
<v Speaker 1>where anyone can see, where it's private, and there is

1130
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:16.280
<v Speaker 1>a central controller of an AI system, which is what

1131
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:19.159
<v Speaker 1>all of them really are. They can masquerade as decentralized

1132
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:22.119
<v Speaker 1>all they like, but they are centralized. So when that

1133
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:25.039
<v Speaker 1>evil ruler has access to all of your pain points,

1134
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:27.400
<v Speaker 1>from the things you most desperately pray about to the

1135
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:29.559
<v Speaker 1>things that you you know, like you don't need Jeffrey

1136
00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Epstein anymore. You actually don't need an Epstein volunteer. Is

1137
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Epstein on steroids have access to everything, whether it's your

1138
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:40.440
<v Speaker 1>microphone right now, the camera on your phone, whatever it is,

1139
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:43.960
<v Speaker 1>have access to it all. And everyone's constantly wearing a device.

1140
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:46.159
<v Speaker 1>And even if there isn't, you can plant one everywhere.

1141
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what are we at? You know, six million

1142
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:50.800
<v Speaker 1>cameras throughout the United States now, flop cameras, all this

1143
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:51.400
<v Speaker 1>other stuff.

1144
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:52.960
<v Speaker 2>See, they can see everything.

1145
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:54.920
<v Speaker 1>So you see where I'm going with that, Jay, So

1146
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I have two concerns, Like the AI itself, I think

1147
00:53:56.920 --> 00:53:58.920
<v Speaker 1>people are a little blown out of proportion of like

1148
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:00.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, the terminate.

1149
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.480
<v Speaker 2>In Yeah, I was thinking.

1150
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not saying AI is going to destroy

1151
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:08.119
<v Speaker 1>humanity in a physical sense. I'm saying is going to

1152
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.199
<v Speaker 1>destroy It's just handing over your consciousness, handing over your

1153
00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:13.639
<v Speaker 1>free thought into an engine that you have no idea

1154
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:16.719
<v Speaker 1>who's producing the results. And I catch AI lying four

1155
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:17.679
<v Speaker 1>or five times a day.

1156
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've seen a lot of errors. Absolutely, You see

1157
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:21.639
<v Speaker 2>where I'm going with that.

1158
00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:24.599
<v Speaker 1>You see that that that is I believe that's biblically

1159
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:26.440
<v Speaker 1>part of a great delusion, like if you're willing to

1160
00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:29.400
<v Speaker 1>hand over your consciousness to a machine, and like who

1161
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:32.599
<v Speaker 1>are these creators of these machines? Elon Musk, Sam Altman,

1162
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Larry Ellison, These are not these are not people of God,

1163
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay whatever, regardless of what they say on TV, because

1164
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.280
<v Speaker 1>they're going to say on TV there are going there's

1165
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:45.559
<v Speaker 1>going to be a mass celebrity politician movement towards I

1166
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:48.039
<v Speaker 1>believe in God now Jesus is king. Like they're going

1167
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:51.519
<v Speaker 1>to use this as a tool against you know, lukewarm churches,

1168
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:53.639
<v Speaker 1>which is you know, this is a Seventh Church of

1169
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:57.519
<v Speaker 1>allowed to see you, seven Church of Revelations. So you know,

1170
00:54:57.599 --> 00:54:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the real danger.

1171
00:54:58.960 --> 00:54:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Jay.

1172
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.880
<v Speaker 1>It's not necessarily the technology attacking us. It's us surrendering

1173
00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:06.639
<v Speaker 1>sovereignty and consciousness to the technology, and that is comfort.

1174
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:10.039
<v Speaker 1>So you're controlled through comfort in the future, no longer

1175
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:10.920
<v Speaker 1>through physical fear.

1176
00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Do that makes sense right? Yeah? No, I think you're

1177
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:13.960
<v Speaker 2>spot on there.

1178
00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:16.519
<v Speaker 3>That makes a lot more sense from the vantage point of, like,

1179
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:19.519
<v Speaker 3>you know what the real threat is rather than the

1180
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:22.320
<v Speaker 3>sort of the sky that you know, the drones are

1181
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:24.400
<v Speaker 3>going to come blow my house up or something like that.

1182
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're not going to have to do that.

1183
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:27.280
<v Speaker 1>They're just going to say like, hey, listen, man, you're

1184
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:30.639
<v Speaker 1>you're stable coin. I mean CBDC that that thing is

1185
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:31.840
<v Speaker 1>going to expire next month.

1186
00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:33.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, I already have.

1187
00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I've had like three people send me stuff just on

1188
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:38.000
<v Speaker 1>my little tiny show of going, hey, here's this letter

1189
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:40.559
<v Speaker 1>my hoa sent me and it said that I need

1190
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:42.239
<v Speaker 1>to I need to take down this tree. And they

1191
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.960
<v Speaker 1>sent him a drone shot of their house. There's already

1192
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.199
<v Speaker 1>drones flying over your house. I had another guy on

1193
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the show the other day. He lives in Mexico, and

1194
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:52.639
<v Speaker 1>they now have biometric eye scanners iris scanners to get

1195
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:56.960
<v Speaker 1>into his neighborhood. It is just to walk into his right,

1196
00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.239
<v Speaker 1>But that creates convenience because the whole selling point, well,

1197
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:02.320
<v Speaker 1>if I give you a key fob, you might lose it,

1198
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:05.119
<v Speaker 1>but you're never going to lose your eyes, right, So

1199
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:07.039
<v Speaker 1>just use your eye scan to get into the neighborhood.

1200
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:08.159
<v Speaker 1>That way, you were keeping you.

1201
00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Safe, right.

1202
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the biometrics stuff is crazy because that was that

1203
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:13.360
<v Speaker 3>was planned a long time ago too. You had a

1204
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.880
<v Speaker 3>lot of these technocratic people writing one hundred years ago

1205
00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:21.039
<v Speaker 3>about how biometrics would be the key to controlling people.

1206
00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:23.800
<v Speaker 2>So how long do you usually go I'm not gonna

1207
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:26.199
<v Speaker 2>be rude, but we got a few minutes left.

1208
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so yeah, absolutely think you've been spot on. Uh,

1209
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:33.360
<v Speaker 3>if you want to have a disagreement podcast, maybe next

1210
00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:35.719
<v Speaker 3>time we could have a topic to debate or something.

1211
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:38.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm always open to debates if you want to do that,

1212
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:40.760
<v Speaker 3>But uh, totally yeah, What's what's on your mind for

1213
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:41.519
<v Speaker 3>your last few minutes?

1214
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:44.079
<v Speaker 1>There? Last few minutes? You know, I always start with

1215
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the big question, where do you think we're going? I

1216
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:47.880
<v Speaker 1>think we see that the same way. What are your

1217
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:48.719
<v Speaker 1>hopes for the future?

1218
00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Like how do you know?

1219
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I know you're you're you're a man of God, And

1220
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:54.239
<v Speaker 1>like that gives me great comfort, by the way, like

1221
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:56.119
<v Speaker 1>there's like there's nothing in the world that affects me

1222
00:56:56.159 --> 00:57:00.000
<v Speaker 1>emotionally at all, because whatever is happening on planet Earth

1223
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:03.159
<v Speaker 1>right now, God ordained and there's nothing we can do

1224
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:05.760
<v Speaker 1>about that. I'm certainly not not in the boat of

1225
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:08.480
<v Speaker 1>saying that we can change prophecy in any way, but

1226
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:10.239
<v Speaker 1>there are things that we can do in our own lives,

1227
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:11.639
<v Speaker 1>and I want to give tips for that, because you're

1228
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a very calm guy, and people ask me this question

1229
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:15.480
<v Speaker 1>all the time. I'm sure you get it. With all

1230
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:18.039
<v Speaker 1>the things that you know, how do you remain so calm?

1231
00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:19.760
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I want to turn.

1232
00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Over to you. Yeah, great question. I mean again, you know,

1233
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:24.599
<v Speaker 2>I think that.

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00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:29.679
<v Speaker 3>It's very important to have your mind in the scriptures consistently.

1235
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:33.320
<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, reading the Bible NonStop as always

1236
00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:37.559
<v Speaker 3>a positive. Tried to do that for the last several

1237
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:40.840
<v Speaker 3>years and that's been a huge impact on my life.

1238
00:57:41.719 --> 00:57:45.239
<v Speaker 3>And I'm definitely not anti Bible because, like you know,

1239
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:47.360
<v Speaker 3>go to Orthodox Church. I don't see those things as

1240
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:51.440
<v Speaker 3>as antithetical. I see them as really harmonious. In fact

1241
00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:54.440
<v Speaker 3>that the Orthodox Church, the entire liturgy itself, is actually

1242
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:55.519
<v Speaker 3>all scripture.

1243
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:56.639
<v Speaker 2>It's all scripture come alive.

1244
00:57:56.719 --> 00:57:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Most of their readings and the songs are just from

1245
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:04.599
<v Speaker 3>the Psalms et cetera. The hymns or all just versions

1246
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:07.920
<v Speaker 3>of the Texas Scripture kind of put to hymnography.

1247
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:09.719
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we're all about that.

1248
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:13.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's been the main pivot and mainstay for

1249
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:16.639
<v Speaker 3>me in terms of navigating this stuff, because there was

1250
00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:18.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, at a period too, I think maybe ten

1251
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:20.960
<v Speaker 3>years ago where I was always raised, you know, Christian,

1252
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.679
<v Speaker 3>and had had to fade that a period where I

1253
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:26.760
<v Speaker 3>was kind of ify and doubted for a few years,

1254
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:28.519
<v Speaker 3>maybe in my early thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>We all do, Yeah, I think if you don't, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not human or you have some sort of false faith,

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<v Speaker 1>right like, Yeah, and then you know doubting as part

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00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:36.719
<v Speaker 1>of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you go through a phase like that and you

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00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:41.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of gradually start reinscripture again and you kind of

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00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:44.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, go back to church and you warm warm

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<v Speaker 3>back up to that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that happened to me maybe ten or twelve

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<v Speaker 2>years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, prayer, having great relationships with other godly virtuous people.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a great spiritual father, father Vladimir Kadanov. We're really close.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a great man. Got other great apologists that are

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00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:07.199
<v Speaker 3>friends of mine. So I think having those connections that

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<v Speaker 3>are not just internet synthetic connections but real people connection

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00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 3>is a huge thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big believer in bitcoin. I'm a big believer

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<v Speaker 2>in living outside of big cities.

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00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Having a you know, place out in the country is

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00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:23.920
<v Speaker 3>a good idea, especially as things get worse and worse.

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00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:28.599
<v Speaker 3>Believe in self defense, self sovereignty, you know, guns, all

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00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:30.119
<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff. So I think all those things

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<v Speaker 3>are positives for people that don't want to lose their

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00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:34.880
<v Speaker 3>sanity in this crazy time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I have to wrap it on this. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bitcoiner as well, and of course I found

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00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:43.800
<v Speaker 1>it hilarious that in the drop of the Epstein files

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<v Speaker 1>that the first breaking story was Epstein's involvement in bitcoin,

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00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and now Epstein is is bitcoin. Epstein can't spell bitcoin,

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00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:55.440
<v Speaker 1>but he created bitcoin, created it, so yeah, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>the creator. And you know, the reality is he did

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00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:02.960
<v Speaker 1>donate money to mit. The Bitcoin Core developers did accept

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01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:05.519
<v Speaker 1>the money. I've talked to a bunch of people who

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01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:08.320
<v Speaker 1>are involved in that scenario. I know exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave money to people to pay salaries. Didn't influence anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't influence open source dcentral.

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<v Speaker 3>I try to explain that to some people yesterday that

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that'd be like saying, well, DARPA is involved

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<v Speaker 3>in the Internet, so if you're involved in the Internet,

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01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:25.119
<v Speaker 3>then you work with DARPA.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and the open source nature from that pursuing my mind,

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01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:32.000
<v Speaker 1>so like, I'm pretty pretty well adept in the system.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you look at it from that perspective. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was a brilliant first attack because I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of appreciate the enemy's tax.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a clever way to go. You know, it's

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01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:41.360
<v Speaker 2>could get.

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01:00:41.239 --> 01:00:43.000
<v Speaker 1>People out of the thing that can save them, like

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01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.960
<v Speaker 1>demonize the thing that actually gets you off of banking rails.

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01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Right at the time where they're creating the quote unquote

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01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Clarity Act and the Genius Act. The thing about the

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01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Genius Act that people aren't tying together is it's a

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<v Speaker 1>stable coin.

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<v Speaker 2>Stable coins, stable cooins.

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01:00:56.119 --> 01:00:59.519
<v Speaker 1>Are cbdc's that happened to buy US treasuries. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>only different and they have treasuries back in them. What

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01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Epstein was actually funding get mi T was a CBDC research.

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<v Speaker 1>The money he gave to Bitcoin core developers was after

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01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:12.639
<v Speaker 1>the Bitcoin Foundation basically when you know, was going bankrupt,

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01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:15.519
<v Speaker 1>so they needed someone to fill the salary position. Which

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Core has its issues, Okay, we Core has

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01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:22.559
<v Speaker 1>its issues, but the system itself is viewed by millions

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01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:24.599
<v Speaker 1>of people daily, so like, if there's a back door,

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01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:27.119
<v Speaker 1>it would be and people don't understand that if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a backdoor, it would have been seen by now.

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<v Speaker 3>I've trly explained that there's several people that you know,

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01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:34.920
<v Speaker 3>that's the purpose of it being an open source situation.

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01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Is like, it's not like there's this central network that

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01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:43.559
<v Speaker 3>Epstein helped to code the back doors into, like promised

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01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:44.400
<v Speaker 3>software or something like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not how this works.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a totally different That means again, it's like saying,

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<v Speaker 3>unlet's use use email email as a protocol, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure that there's there were some nefarious people who

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<v Speaker 3>helped develop email, of course. Okay, well, so are we

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01:01:57.159 --> 01:01:58.960
<v Speaker 3>not going to It's silly to think that because of

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01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:04.480
<v Speaker 3>it's also a fallacy, right, something can be good on

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01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:08.119
<v Speaker 3>its own apart from a person or persons involved in

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01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:09.519
<v Speaker 3>the origin or the development of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, in the origin development, we know who the

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01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:14.960
<v Speaker 1>original developers were, and we know that a couple of

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01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:18.199
<v Speaker 1>them were crazy. But them being crazy doesn't mean that

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01:02:18.239 --> 01:02:19.639
<v Speaker 1>they were writing pure code.

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<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, that's why it's called the genetic fallacy, is

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01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:26.400
<v Speaker 3>that it's it's an error in reasoning and critical thinking

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01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:28.239
<v Speaker 3>to draw that conclusion from that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But they played on it perfectly. That was the

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01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:31.119
<v Speaker 2>first thing that came out.

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01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:33.039
<v Speaker 1>It started to drop the first thing and it us

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01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:35.519
<v Speaker 1>buy more because that's just simply the way it should.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I think we see.

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01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:39.039
<v Speaker 1>A big rebound in that, and I think the world

1349
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:41.159
<v Speaker 1>actually there's a reason institutions who.

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01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Are all corrupt.

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<v Speaker 1>So by the way Epstein used JP, Morgan Chase frequently

1352
01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:49.679
<v Speaker 1>met with Jamie Diamond, knows all these people, but yet

1353
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:53.119
<v Speaker 1>you still have your money in JP exactly right, So

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01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:54.760
<v Speaker 1>like the attack was pretty significant there.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to talk about this a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really don't care to me Like, I'm kind

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01:02:57.960 --> 01:02:59.760
<v Speaker 1>of in a situation where like I'm gonna do what

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01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I do, You do what you do, and I wish

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01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you all the best. And I think that anything open

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01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:06.679
<v Speaker 1>source and decentralized is going to win in the end

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01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:10.400
<v Speaker 1>for humanity, and AI right now needs to step that

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01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:13.239
<v Speaker 1>up because everything is the exact opposite. I would be

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<v Speaker 1>more concerned with the people in AI that Epstein met with,

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01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:18.679
<v Speaker 1>who are central controllers of a closed source system that

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01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:22.039
<v Speaker 1>you're using daily that can be influenced by human beings

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01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:24.760
<v Speaker 1>one thousand percent. But when you have reviewers and no

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01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:28.280
<v Speaker 1>runners and minors reviewing code literally twenty four hours a day,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no concerns with that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear

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01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:31.599
<v Speaker 2>on the same page.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a great point right there, Like, how come

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01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:39.719
<v Speaker 3>there's not obsession over Epstein and perhaps Ai because I'm

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01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:41.880
<v Speaker 3>sure he had interest in that. You know, he talks

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01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:44.079
<v Speaker 3>about a little bit in the Bannon interview. But everyone's

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01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:47.320
<v Speaker 3>obsessed with Oh, look, he put money into the Bitcoin Foundation.

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01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:50.840
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, but he put money into everything, right,

1377
01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:55.000
<v Speaker 3>like everything, very selective choices here.

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01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:57.960
<v Speaker 1>And more importantly, they were running the RL program at MIT,

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01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:02.400
<v Speaker 1>so that was all about being total tyrannical cbdc's, which

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01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:04.280
<v Speaker 1>have actually been launched in the state of New York,

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01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:06.800
<v Speaker 1>so they did a test with it. There's two other

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01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:09.119
<v Speaker 1>states that launched those, but they But this is how

1383
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:11.559
<v Speaker 1>he Gelian dialectic works, right, right, So you have to

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01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:15.000
<v Speaker 1>create the CBDC scary CBDC. You can't have that that

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01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:17.199
<v Speaker 1>word right now. Ever, I gave a speech at ironically

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01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:20.840
<v Speaker 1>at Rice University in Houston about this topic about three

1387
01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:22.440
<v Speaker 1>years ago, maybe three and a half years ago.

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01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:24.599
<v Speaker 2>No one knew what a CBDC was in the whole room.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time I left, they were like, we got

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01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:29.119
<v Speaker 1>to stop these things. And I had no idea what

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01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:30.519
<v Speaker 1>they were going to do. But we all they've done

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01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:32.480
<v Speaker 1>is said, well, you guys don't like CBDC, we're going

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01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:35.079
<v Speaker 1>to ban the term CBDC, but we're going to give

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01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you stable coins, which are the same thing programmatically.

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01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Just rebrand They do that all the time, just rebrand it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're rebranding the United Nations as the Board of Peace,

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01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:46.639
<v Speaker 1>right like, yeah, that's you know. The only difference is that,

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01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:49.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, unironically right now, the Vatican has declined their

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01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:51.719
<v Speaker 1>membership there, but we'll see it. The Knights of Malta do.

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<v Speaker 1>Because both of those two have permanent observer status. They

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01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:57.199
<v Speaker 1>aren't members of the UN, but they're permanent observer status.

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01:04:57.239 --> 01:04:59.199
<v Speaker 1>That will probably be the path that they take there.

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01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:02.159
<v Speaker 1>But Jay, this has been a great conversation. Thank you

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01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:03.440
<v Speaker 1>so much for coming on here. I know you're busy

1405
01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:05.840
<v Speaker 1>running around doing stuff. Hope to have you on here

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01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:07.079
<v Speaker 1>again and we will have a debate.

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01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:08.239
<v Speaker 2>We'll maybe we'll get in.

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01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't you know, religious stuff is for somebody else.

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01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not as not as interesting. I care that people meet,

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01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:16.199
<v Speaker 1>follow and love Jesus and try to live as a disciple.

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01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:18.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't care how what path they get there. There

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01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:19.800
<v Speaker 1>are certainly ones that are worse than the others.

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01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:22.320
<v Speaker 3>We don't have to I was just saying that you

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01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:24.360
<v Speaker 3>said we were trying to find something to disagree on it, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I can with you, we'll find

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01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:29.280
<v Speaker 2>on something. You're into guns, bitcoin, freedom, sovereignty.

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01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:31.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, I had a nice little place out here

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01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:33.840
<v Speaker 1>in Texas that was, you know, fairly rural when I

1419
01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:36.559
<v Speaker 1>moved here. And they've dumped about four billion dollars into

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01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:38.719
<v Speaker 1>building cracker barrels.

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01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:39.000
<v Speaker 2>And all that stuff.

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01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ugly, Yeah, as soon as my kids, because soon

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01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:45.800
<v Speaker 1>as my kids graduate high school, I'm heading about fifty

1424
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:48.719
<v Speaker 1>to one hundred miles north and west, maybe up into Oklahoma.

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01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:51.559
<v Speaker 2>Uh, just live a quiet life. But you know, you

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01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:53.519
<v Speaker 2>know how that is. You know that desire it burns out.

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee is great, Florida is great. We split the year

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01:05:56.119 --> 01:05:58.079
<v Speaker 2>between those two. So yeah, I guess I've been.

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01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Thinking about Tennessee. I like one of one of our

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01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:02.960
<v Speaker 1>operations is about an hour and a half south east.

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01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:06.519
<v Speaker 1>I think of Knoxville and love the area, love the area,

1432
01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:11.480
<v Speaker 1>beautiful rolling mountains, streams everywhere, good fishing, clean air, good people.

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01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:12.800
<v Speaker 2>And I live.

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01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:15.599
<v Speaker 1>I live right outside Dallas, so you guys have far

1435
01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:17.719
<v Speaker 1>less foreigners walking on your streets.

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01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:20.360
<v Speaker 2>There than we do. Definitely, definitely all right. Well, thank you, Eric,

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01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:21.920
<v Speaker 2>appreciate it absolutely. God bless you.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay, have a good one. God bless everyone out there.

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01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for coming to the Rice Report. We'll see

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01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:26.199
<v Speaker 1>you again next time.
