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Speaker 2: When Matts wakes up in the morning, he gets into

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the shower and to the top of his lungs.

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Speaker 3: He sings.

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Speaker 4: Man the rain wind because I can't.

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Speaker 5: All right, I'm back doing a radio show.

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Speaker 4: Now, all the best and cherry.

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Speaker 2: I've been enough, Daves, Mine's amazing ablaze. I've been catching

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figus since before the twelfth grade. I had this design,

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but couldn't get out of my way. Now I'm double

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the age, still rewinding the days. Can't believe what all

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love done. I'm still looking back big cleaning up, but

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still remember the cooking crack. The strength I had for

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the needle never quite took it back. Some days I

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still find that I'm quite shook. In fact, the light

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keeps going out. Maybe that's a sign for me. I

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have accepted that one day will be time for me

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someone's revenge. I suppose that it's fine with me. Nothing

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in life often happened when the timeins sweet. All I

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can do work to build a good Now when then

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staking the sunder makeup for days of shrouded in dens.

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I am the howling man standing upon the howland winds.

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Night of the hunted the preacher upon the prowl again.

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Not perfect, not even close.

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Speaker 4: To all right.

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Speaker 5: Can't remember the last time I slept all night.

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Speaker 1: W open, but I need another hour. I just fell asleep.

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Speaker 5: Off any time for the shower. No sugar added, no

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sugar added. I just need water.

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Speaker 2: Mentally I can padded, no sugar added, no sugar added.

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and alarms again.

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Speaker 5: Hope my horrible ways could never harm a friend.

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Speaker 2: Some men crossed me again. I saw him again. Even

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a heathen nor demon can fall from a sin Who

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called it again?

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Speaker 1: I'm not offred to them?

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Speaker 5: Drownding in my own flood, I hardly can swim. Then

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Speaker 2: How could I be so selfish? Do the superdice things?

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need to learn to break. I'm mad scattered this matter.

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If I need to learn to shake, we'ld extinguish every light,

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the match to burn the lake. Every roll of the

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dice is the one determined fate. Slipping into the void

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for just a few hours to do within my vest

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and not flip. I got no new flower, my dreamscape

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is a place that I do scalur in search events

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is like how I could better use power? Not perfect,

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not even close to all right, can't remember the last

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time I slept all night. Eyes why I'm open, but

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time for the shower. No sugar added, no sugar added.

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Speaker 1: Mentally, I can.

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Speaker 5: Padded, no sugar added, no sugar added. Somewhere between being

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Speaker 4: I love it. That is Cody Pope and Byron g

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No sugar added from the album Giant Steps in Gates City.

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And we have Cody Pope here with us in studio.

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We're gonna speak with him in just a moment. But

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welcome everybody, if you are listening live on Saturday. We

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have entered our number three New Marrow trace of Matt

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Connerton Unleashed. We are live from the studios of wm

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n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester,

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New Hampshire. Jenny is here, of course, at the news table,

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and it is a Saturday, August thirtieth, and I hear

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the doorbell. Oh my goodness, are we expecting company. Jenny

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is going to uh well, that's very strange. Let me

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get this mic on here. Oh, actually we switch to

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to the other mic. There we go.

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Speaker 2: Cody Pope is here.

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Speaker 4: Hi Cody, good morning. Well everybody, welcome back. Yes, I

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don't know why the doorbell is ringing up. It's occasionally.

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you this. You probably know this used to be a

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bus station. Yeah, and occasionally people will come here trying

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to buy bus tickets, because I think if you look

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it up on Google, it still shows this is a

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location where you can purchase bus tickets in Manchester.

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Speaker 2: It's funny that all the big signage outside that says

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Speaker 4: And they're literally I told someone this once and I

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think they thought I was kidding. There's actually a sign.

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I don't know if you've seen the sign on the

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building that actually says we do not sell bus tickets here.

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Speaker 2: No, that's so good.

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as evidenced by the fact that people still come here

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to buy bus tickets. But yeah, there's a sign on

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the building that says we do not sell bus tickets here.

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Speaker 2: That's like wild.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, pretty crazy. But uh no, I love that

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track now that Giant Steps in Gate City. That was

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out the last time you were here, right.

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Speaker 2: So I think we were here before. I think we

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might have been here before it came out, right, but

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, Yes, Okay, I recall now and

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you're still now you're you're working with Byron. G's still right,

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but he's got something else he's doing as well. Yeah,

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so you guys are kind of working separately but still

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still together with Hellhound Publishing. Correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Hellhound is still running full steam. Byron and

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want to say a little earlier this year. Anybody that's

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but you also know Patrick. Patrick was our live sound

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engineer for a number of years. The two of them

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have actually started a new company called six ZHO three

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Beat Collaborative, Okay, and they do live audio, They do engineering, podcasting,

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stuff for big corporate events, all sorts of stuff like that.

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of the like initial groundwork of getting that all up

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and running. And so while they were doing that, I

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just figured I should keep keep the bus moving, keep

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the hell hound thing going.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: They you know, they have families and kids and things

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that occupy a lot of time. I have the I

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a cat and a fiance, so it affords me a

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little more flexibility. And so I'm just taking the torch

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and running with it and uh trying to keep things

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I mean, don't get me wrong. People with children

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always look really happy and everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing is like, but I imagine that,

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like parenting could be cool. Like I'm sure there's people.

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Speaker 4: Who like, yeah, Jenny has a son.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the thing is, like, parenting is cool as

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I'm just too selfish, yeah, and too caught up on

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this whole creative endeavor in life.

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Speaker 4: That's always been my thing too. To have that degree

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of responsibility for another human being. I don't even know

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how anyone affords it.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh absolutely absolutely. Uh Jenny, my curiosity is

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killing me. Uh why was the doorbell ringing? Somebody looking

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Speaker 2: Real? That is?

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Speaker 4: That is what it was? Yeah, yes, it was.

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Speaker 3: Somebody looking for a bus to Boston. I did my

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best to try and explain how to go to New London,

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North Londonderry to get a bus to Boston.

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Speaker 4: Yes, because I don't know any other way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's either that or Nashua. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, taken uber to North Londonerry. I'm so sorry, sweetie, there's.

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Speaker 4: No bus here. Yeah. Oh that's funny. Wow all right, Yeah,

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know says it online? Still does it? Well that's the

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thing I was I was telling Cody that if you

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look online, it still says you can get bus tickets here. Yeah.

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When we first when we first moved into this building,

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because you were at the Yeah, you were on the show.

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that at first, if they left the door unlocked during

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the morning show on weekdays, people would just wander into

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the building, you know, thinking they were gonna buy bus tickets.

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Steps and Gate City. So this is this is your

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newest release.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that is the second full length but

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fifth project from Byron.

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Speaker 4: And I Okay, okay, wow yeah, Now who who are

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it all kind of came to be. But big shout

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DJ Myth, DJ Myth and Sean Caliber, great artist from

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around the Way too. The two of them do an

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a while, I think it's like once a month and

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it's always a different theme. And so they had the

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theme of like rappers with a live band, and they had,

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I just was like, look, I can't promise that I

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can pull this off, but if you really don't have anybody,

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I was like, I certainly know people in bands. I

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can try and pull this together for a show. And

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I did the Facebook solicitation thing. I had a really

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great drummer who I think you actually have met before.

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Big shout out to Axel from Dead Harris.

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Speaker 4: Oh of course.

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Speaker 2: So Axel hit me up, and then a childhood friend

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and we all met at a jam space in Nashua

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and Axel and I hit it off really well. The

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that he had to deal with, so it just like

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wasn't a good time. Yeah, so he kind of stepped

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out of the picture quick, and so it was like

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we just need to do this show. So even if

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it's just the two of us, like we can you

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could just drum over the music, We'll do the show

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to help them out. And I appreciate it. Yeah, A

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week before the show, maybe like a week and a half,

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a guitar player hit us up, who I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we've had the mine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love these guys, so shout out to them.

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Dane from Volley reached out and he was like, look,

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I'm going on vacation with my family this week. He's like,

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if you don't have anybody on I think it was

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the show was on the tenth, and I think he

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was coming back from his vacation on the third and

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he was like, look, if you don't have anybody by

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the third, and me the music and I will do

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my best to learn it. And I was like okay.

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like the fourth. We had one practice for a couple

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hours and just like worked out a set, went and

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did the show that night and absolutely like crushed and

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we had so much fun. The audience. It was like

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playing to all new people. It was a way different

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audience than I usually played too. Yeah, they were super receptive,

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you guys so much. And they were both like, well,

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we should just keep doing this? Yeah, and I was like,

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well what a dream, you know, Like I was just

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going to be happy if we did it for one show,

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and the fact that they wanted to keep up with it,

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I was so ecstatic. So now we've set so we

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have two shows in September now and we're currently on

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the search for a bassist and a keyboard player. Nice

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kind of fill things out, very cool. Yeah, Now, what's

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it called Cody Pope? And what Cody Pope and the

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Keyholders and the Keyholders? I like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's very cool.

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Speaker 2: So people that are that are into the Cody and

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Byron and stuff. We have a song from one of

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our projects called the Keyholder's Theme Song. Oh, and that

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kind of ties into us being from Nashua because Nashua

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is the gate city and oh that makes sense. Culturally.

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There's lots of talk now more than ever about gatekeeping

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and the idea of gatekeeping. And I'm not a huge

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fan of gatekeeping person Like, I understand it to a degree,

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but I also am kind of of the challenger of

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the ilk of like, look, I could give you all

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the resources that I have, but you're not gonna do

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what I do. Like, you know, it's like you can

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give two people a paintbrush and they're gonna make a

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different thing, right exactly. And so Keyholder just be kind

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of came this thing of like I'm happy to share

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my tools with the right people. Like if you if

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you're on this path for real and you really care

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about the craft and what you're doing, and I have

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some something that I can share with you, I'm happy

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to do that if it's for the right reason. Yeah,

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Like I'm not afraid of sharing game, but I do

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understand protecting the culture too, And so that's kind of

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where the idea of like the keyholders came from. It's

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just like we've kind of made our like we're a

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part of hip hop as a greater thing, but Hellhound

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is very much like its own kind of like community

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and subculture, and like we have a lot of people

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that come out specifically to our stuff and that specifically

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rock with us rather than like the greater culture the

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way we love it, right, And so we look at

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that as like something we've cultivated and something we have

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to protect too. We want to grow it and continue

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it to blossom, but we have to like protect the

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sanctity of these people that come and really appreciate this thing.

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You know, they come and they feel safe, they feel

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like they can express themselves, they can be vulnerable, they

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can cry and dance and laugh and have fun and whatever.

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And so it's like we want to make sure that

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that always stays a part of the ethos of what

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we do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I think that makes sense and it's very positive.

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And how long is Hellhound existed? Now?

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Speaker 2: So we started Hellhound in twenty I started Hellhound in

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twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, and then Byron became a part of it.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty two, okay, Yeah, so it did already existed

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for a while. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was like a very interesting time period.

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So when we we had met, I think we talked

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about this before, but you were doing local outbreak at

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the I forget the name of the place, but it

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was like a vintage store in Laconia. Yeah, and that

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was the first time we had met, that's right. Yeah,

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that was around the time that I had just kind

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of started linking up with Bizza Took. I think Bizil

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was the one who introduced us, yep, and I had

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started a record label called Vatican Life back then, oh right, right,

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And the last record that I put out on Vatican

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Life was my album called Not Having a Good Day,

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which a lot of people that's kind of like the

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thing they know me for, but coincidentally, as well known

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as the song has become now. When the album came out,

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it didn't do very well in terms of like just

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selling the album, and then I did like a short

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tour to promote the album, and most of the shows

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on the tour did not go very well, just like

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low attended weak Night, kind of like didn't seem like

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people cared kind of thing. So I just became very disillusioned,

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and I was like, man, all the artists that I

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put out records for have like, I don't want to

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say fallen off, but kind of chosen to not pursue

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music anymore. And life dealt them other cards, and I

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was in this weird place where it was like, man,

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I had built up such momentum and somehow I'm looking

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at my last album thinking like, oh, I got covered

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in the Hippo, I had more people at the release show,

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I sold more CDs, Like what did I do wrong?

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I'm so proud of this album. I thought it was

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such a tremendous body of work. But I think I

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had just burnt myself out and I think that I was, yeah,

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you know, I just I was applying too much in

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the wrong places. I needed to step back and learn

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how to like do more for myself in like the

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creative sense, the marketing sense, like how to just be

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more self dependent. And one of the things that I

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had started kind of coming to grips with at that

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time was I don't know if I'm going to be

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able to do music forever.

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Speaker 4: I want to.

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Speaker 2: I hope that I always have the privilege of doing so,

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but I just you just never know. The culture could

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dictate that your time has come, your audience could be

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exhausted with what you've done, You could have some sort

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of something could happen, I could prevent you from executing

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your craft at the full level. And so I realized

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it was like, I need to be able to do

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other creative endeavors and still have a platform for the

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music as well. And one of my big influences in

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life has always been Henry Rawlins. I grew up a

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punk rock kid. I loved Black Flag, but I found

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that when I was like about twelve or thirteen years old,

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So it was like a very pivotal time in my life.

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And I had, like I don't want to like drag

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on the story, but basically I had been like a

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punk rock fan already. I used to go hang out

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at Barnes and Noble all the time because back then

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Barnes and Noble was open till eleven o'clock at night.

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He had the Starbucks, so it was like a place

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you could just take the bus and go hang out. Yeah,

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And I was there one night and I liked, I've

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always read like I'm a big fan, like the Hellhound

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logo is a book and flame, Yeah, like it's very

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much a part of my ethos as a person. But

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I was just looking through books and I found a

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book and it's and it had Henry Roland's name on

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it as like the author, and so like thirteen year

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old me is like, I picked it up and I

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opened the first page. It was the book it's called Sillipsist.

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I don't know if you've ever seen it, but it's

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like it is as raw as it comes. The very

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first page is just like raw, unfiltered, honest disgusted with

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the things that he's seeing at the time, and I

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didn't think books could be like that. Like I didn't

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think books can say that kind of stuff. And then

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it was like, oh, the guy from Black Flag writes

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books and like puts out And then I saw the

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record label that he had and they put out books

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and they did concerts and they put out spoken word albums,

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and so it just made me realize that, like, maybe

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I had boxed myself in too much. Like I write.

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You know, it's not that I write raps. You know,

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I started off as a punk rock I played in

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hardcore and metal bands. Like I've played numerous instruments, I've

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written poetry, I've done all these other things, including rap.

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Rap is a skill set that has taken me the

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furthest of all of my skill sets. Doing hell Houn

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Publishing was like, look, we're not calling this just records

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or music group or whatever. This is now the entity

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that we can do everything through. It's the cultural ethos

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that brings all of this art together.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's being raw, being vulnerable, being honest, not feeling like

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you have to playkate to societal standards or even industry standards.

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Just being comfortable carving your own lane at whatever that costs.

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And so I kind of so the dissolution of Vatican

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Life was also the start of my hiatus as a rapper,

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and I ended up taking the next like almost three

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years off wow, and didn't really I think. I think

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I put out like an EP and I played like

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one show or something, but I didn't really do anything.

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I had put all of my energy into this hell

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Hound publishing project, and the first things that I was

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working on were podcasts. I had written like a radio play,

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so I wrote like a whole script. It was like

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eight thirty minute episodes really this very like film noir

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based like old school radio play style thing. I had

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cast a bunch of voice actors wow, brought them to

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my studio and was like producing this thing. And a

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few months in I just realized I was like way

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in over my head in terms of doing a production

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of that magnitude. But I knew that I was like

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on the right path. I knew that I was like

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this is why I made hell Hound, chose to do

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things like this.

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Speaker 4: What was the radio play about?

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Speaker 2: So it's called Gates and I based it in like

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early like nineteen fifties Nashua. Yeah, And it's really like

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a mix of like a sci fi murder mystery kind

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of thing where I took a lot of those like

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the Raymond Chandler stories, like those kind of like detective

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mystery things, and I tried to imbue that with my

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love of sci fi. How would people react to science

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fiction scenarios in that time in the fifties without the

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lack of technology that we have today. So it was

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really fun and I still have a lot of the

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stuff like in the vault, and I'm just trying to

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figure out Now it's like, all right, how do I

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finish it? Because I was I was like I think

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coming from like CD culture and concert ticket culture, it's

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like I have this very way of thinking that was

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like I need to get all eleven voice actors to

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the studio to like play off of each other, and

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how do I record that all at the same and

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it's like people just don't have the time. And it

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was just like technological stuff that it was like I

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need to figure out how I could produce this better,

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and now I have. But then in that time, the

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music stuff kind of picked back up so much that

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it was like Okay, I understand now I have a

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better understanding of how to charge forward, and it's that

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doing the music is the thing that shines a lot

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of light into what I'm doing, yeah, and provides me

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the leverage to take risks on new creative ventures like

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a radio play or doing a podcast, or writing a

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book or whatever it may be. And so I think

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as long as I stay steady doing music and not compromising,

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that people will also take risks on me doing new things.

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And the band was kind of an example of that too.

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We're constantly trying to bring new elements into what people

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see as like a hip hop show, and like the

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flyer I gave you, you'll see we're doing an unplugged

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show at the end of September, so we're basically all

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acoustic and percussion stuff, and we're going to be doing

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all new renditions of some of my songs oh wow

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and stuff that was like I was like very inspired

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by like Incubus, Alice in Chains, yeah, stuff like that

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that It was like, how do I bring that kind

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of like goose bump inducing energy and still use my

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like the spinal cord of the music that I'm making

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right right now?

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Speaker 4: I think that's really cool, and you know, to have

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the music as the nucleus, but but to not limit yourself,

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you know. Yeah, now I think that's I think that's

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excellent if you are just joining us. Cody Pope is

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here with us on this this Saturday morning. And so

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when is the next When is the next show that

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you're doing with the band with the Keyholders.

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Speaker 2: So the next Keyholders show September fourteenth, we're going to

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be at the Shaskiing Okay, We're going to be doing

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like a regular like electric, pretty high energetic set for

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rap night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then September twenty seventh, we're doing our unplugged Acoustics

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show at the Spot in Nashwa, Newhamshire.

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Speaker 4: Okay, oh that's very cool. Yeah, all right, excellent, excellent.

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You want to So we had talked off air about

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you were gonna wrap something a cappella for us. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a couple of songs that I so

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like we were saying before. With everything that's been going,

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you know, I've been so fortunate to have the band

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I had, Byron, I had Bus. I've always had people

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00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,720
to bounce off of creatively when I'm on stage. But

478
00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:23,359
the only way that I got any of those people

479
00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:25,400
to mess with me in the first place was by

480
00:24:25,599 --> 00:24:28,640
just being up there by myself, and so I had

481
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,559
been so far removed from that that for this show

482
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,519
that I did about a week ago, I was kind

483
00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:36,759
of like tied into just celebrating my birthday, Like what

484
00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:39,039
else would I want to do besides the thing I love?

485
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,200
And so I put together this hour long set and

486
00:24:43,319 --> 00:24:45,480
I picked songs that I had, some I had never

487
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,960
performed before, some I hadn't performed in like ten years,

488
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:53,680
some were like unreleased songs, and then of course some

489
00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:56,319
of the stuff that people have come to know and enjoy.

490
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,039
And it was just like I kind of just built

491
00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:01,680
this night around cell braiding, my catalog and the work

492
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,799
that I've done, and it was like very cathartic. A

493
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,920
lot of like old friends came out, a lot of

494
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:09,559
new people that had no idea who I was just

495
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,359
happened to like buy tickets because they liked the venue

496
00:25:13,079 --> 00:25:16,319
and it went really well. So I thought that it

497
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,559
would be cool to kind of pick a couple songs

498
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,880
from throughout the catalog that I could do acappella because

499
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,000
nobody's ever heard.

500
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,319
Speaker 1: Them like that.

501
00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, very curious. Yeah.

502
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: So the first one that I was thinking of doing

503
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,480
is from the Cody and Byron collection. This is a

504
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:34,720
song We've been opening the show with it a lot

505
00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:37,839
because I feel like, subject wise, it's kind of how

506
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,799
some people think about or start the day or whatnot.

507
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,640
And so this song is called Gratitude. This is one

508
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,599
of the closing songs from the Giant Steps in Gates

509
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,279
City album.

510
00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, Whenever You're ready, Cody Pope live in studio.

511
00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 2: Some days I wake up and I wish I had it.

512
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,480
I hate that I'm sad, Oh my loved ones feel

513
00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:07,559
so glad. Then easily tripping, don't know why I'm.

514
00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:08,839
Speaker 4: So mad man?

515
00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:14,079
Speaker 2: Got a lot to be grateful for, even when I'm

516
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:19,880
damn bad man. Some days I wake up and I

517
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,319
wish I had it. I hate that I'm sad, but

518
00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:32,039
my loved ones feel so glad, Then easily tripping, don't

519
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,400
know why I'm so mad man. Got a lot to

520
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:43,400
be grateful for, even when I'm damn bad man. Wake

521
00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:48,200
up in my brain already feeling dark, Hit the couch, already,

522
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,920
chase a spark, contemplating in my sick of unhealthy? Is

523
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,319
this depression of Calma for unwealthy, enough clarity to know

524
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,920
that I'm the end of me, the one destroying me,

525
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,319
the one should be defending me. Gotta take time enough

526
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,319
to know you can't make time, So make mind filled

527
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,160
with the things that shape lives. What you heard on

528
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:12,279
the grapevine might not taste right, so you don't gotta

529
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,480
make wine. You'll still make flights, Plant that seed that

530
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,559
gone way to your family. We the real money tree.

531
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,599
Life's obstacle, standard fees. Still days, I'm fighting to get

532
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,359
through it, but I survived when I've remain my truest.

533
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,400
When the fight come at your door, you can't be truant.

534
00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:32,559
You missed that chance. Might as well accept your ruins.

535
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:37,279
Some days I wake up and I wish I had it.

536
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,599
I hate that I'm sad, but my loved ones feel

537
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,839
so glad. Then easily tripping, don't know why I'm so

538
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,720
mad man. Got a lot to be grateful for, even

539
00:27:54,839 --> 00:28:04,799
when I'm damn bad man. Some days I wake up, thank.

540
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: You, very cool? Very cool? Is that difficult to do?

541
00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:10,960
Like to do that acapella without?

542
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:11,279
Speaker 2: I mean?

543
00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 4: Or do you just kind of play the beat in

544
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:13,720
your head? Or how do you do that?

545
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,279
Speaker 2: I think I do kind of play the beat in

546
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,880
my head. I just like try to black out a

547
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,960
little bit because it is definitely like nerve racking, you know.

548
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:24,480
It's like I can like even feel myself now a

549
00:28:24,519 --> 00:28:26,920
little bit being like, oh boy, I don't know, I've

550
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,960
never done that before, but I think it's just one

551
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,920
of those things that I need to be able to

552
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:38,599
do because I thrive in the live atmosphere, right, That's

553
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,319
very much my comfort zone. I love performing. But what

554
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,680
happens is everybody experiences the live show differently. Some people

555
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:50,480
are feeling the music, some people are seeing your like

556
00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:54,599
action and reaction to stuff. Some people are processing what

557
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,839
you're saying. Some people might miss entire lines and segments

558
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:02,519
of what I'm saying because it's just a different kind

559
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:06,039
of atmosphere. And so being that what I do is

560
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:11,960
so rooted lyrically, it's cool to have opportunities like this

561
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,559
where it's like, hopefully people can kind of be like, oh,

562
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,240
you know, I've heard that song fifteen times and hearing

563
00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:22,599
it that way really hit home what he's talking about

564
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,720
or what he's trying to say.

565
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know that's the best I could ask for. Yeah, No,

566
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,200
that's really cool. So have you have you done that

567
00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:32,799
live just acapella like that and in front of an audience.

568
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,920
Oh no, this is the first time.

569
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh wow, well yeah, we just we we always

570
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,480
play it at the showses the album came out, because

571
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:42,519
it's just such a cool thing. Yeah, And I usually

572
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,799
open with it because doing some of those vocal inflections,

573
00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:47,279
it's like, if I try to do that at the

574
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,799
end of the set when I've wore you know, the

575
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,480
show gets a little rowdy at times.

576
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

577
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you got to get some of the

578
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,079
more challenging vocal vocally nuanced stuff out of the way.

579
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:03,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, makes sense. We had talked about playing

580
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,319
let's see studio track clipped wings.

581
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,079
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is a this is a cool one.

582
00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:12,599
I'm glad that we're playing this because when we put

583
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,599
the album out, we that album release show is the

584
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,319
only time we played the album top to bottom. Okay,

585
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:23,519
And so after that show, that song has just yet

586
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,759
to have fit into a set list really Yeah, and

587
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,440
it's not it's a great song, but it's a little longer,

588
00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:31,799
and it's a it's a little more of like a

589
00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:35,119
serious subject matter kind of thing. So it's like you

590
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,000
can't just like play that at every you know, it's

591
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:39,440
it's not as fun as doing not having a good

592
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:43,559
day and everyone's jumping around and singing along. So so

593
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,400
it's cool when we were, you know, but when we

594
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,240
were off air, I was like trying to go through

595
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:51,039
the the new album to pick some songs that I

596
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,400
figured hadn't been as widely picked up on or talked

597
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,880
about or whatever. Sure, and this is definitely one that

598
00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:01,440
like I don't want to say his on unrecognized, but

599
00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:05,359
it doesn't get the kind of conversation that like, you know,

600
00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:08,319
no Sugar Added or some of the other songs on

601
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,680
the album, people of our gratitude. People really gravitate to

602
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:15,440
these songs, and that's also because we've exerted a lot

603
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,960
of energy pushing them. So yeah, clipped Wings is really cool.

604
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,240
It's kind of the idea behind it is essentially not

605
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,920
allowing yourself to be stifled where it's easy for situations

606
00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:34,839
to dictate or for circumstances to dictate how much room

607
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,880
you have to do X, Y and Z, And ultimately

608
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,400
it's like you can accept those terms or you can

609
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:44,720
create a new way and not allow yourself to feel

610
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:45,880
so beaten down.

611
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it all right. Let's give this a spen.

612
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,720
This is Cody Pope and Byron g It's from the

613
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,079
album Giant Steps in Gate City and Cody Pope is

614
00:31:54,119 --> 00:32:10,480
here with us live in studio. This is called clipped Wings, So.

615
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: Carl Kings want me to clip my wings? Don't like

616
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:15,920
it how I sing and still do my thing? If

617
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,200
you the type does not leave the house. We just

618
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,240
don't believe your mouth.

619
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 5: You can discuss anything with no apps what you're talking

620
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:22,759
about and.

621
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,279
Speaker 2: In the down and dirty, with the dirt in my nails,

622
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,680
ice pack recovery from the hurt of my sails. Nice

623
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,839
that people loving me? Sure I feel swell. They're lifting

624
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,720
dead weight that want to burn me in hell had

625
00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:37,920
a list for change of mad insane brain. The target

626
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,279
to me more than the store or the range. Different

627
00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:44,279
missions when you're missing what you never had been doing

628
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,240
this most of my life.

629
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,359
Speaker 5: It was never a fad, been here for.

630
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: Years, never different, Not to fear.

631
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,359
Speaker 2: No man can program me different that clear searching for

632
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,119
clever and sometimes I've made it differently to keep on

633
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:56,640
this hunt.

634
00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:57,839
Speaker 1: It's not something you'll have.

635
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: To dare me make it mountains out of mow hills,

636
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,400
but I'm still climbing. They lit my wings, but you'll

637
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,680
see I'm still rising. Probably needs every people. At least

638
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,039
I'm still rhyming. I hope you find the thing that

639
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,319
helped you make the most of thiment making mountains out

640
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:14,079
of mohills, but I'm still climbing.

641
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,799
Speaker 1: They lit my wings, but you'll see I'm still rising.

642
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:20,319
Speaker 2: Probably needs every people. At least I'm still rhyming. Hope

643
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:22,240
you find the thing that help you make the most

644
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:24,920
of timing. I am on the mission to make sure

645
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,000
that my circle eat no more portrayals from these sucker

646
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,799
arkle peaks. We on the meat and tip to us

647
00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:33,559
the first of the week, working right after work again,

648
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,039
know hurting my feet certainly deep on the path that

649
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,160
we've been coughing out. Always say she ain't in hunger,

650
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,119
but still starffen now so looking me like a martian,

651
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,480
I'm offing. Now. When you evolve, you gotta leave behind

652
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:49,279
the laugh and now, even if you not be ritual,

653
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:52,359
think of karma, how it can disrupt and derail. Don't

654
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:55,480
work you all the bout. Climbing ladder is easily lead

655
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:57,519
just look it fall you get your shot.

656
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: How wes to le? Can you grip the ball at

657
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,079
the wall lights?

658
00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:02,599
Speaker 5: Flash time to say nothing?

659
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: If you win a jam, don't give them the turkey

660
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,279
stuff and the recipe state locked.

661
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:09,599
Speaker 5: Don't like Golevn spices, even.

662
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: If it puts you down for for Levin.

663
00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: Like making mountains down of bow hills. But I'm still climbing.

664
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,559
They clit my wings, but you'll see I'm still rising.

665
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,599
Probably needs to ever be pleased.

666
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:20,559
Speaker 1: I'm still roming.

667
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,599
Speaker 2: I hope you find the thing that helped you make

668
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:25,400
the most of tom and making mountains out.

669
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: Of bow hills.

670
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,519
Speaker 2: But I'm still climbing. They clit my wings, but you'll

671
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:29,760
see I'm still rising.

672
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: Probably needs to ever be pleased. I'm still romming. Hope

673
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,159
you find the thing that helped you make the most

674
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:35,760
of tom And.

675
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 4: That has clipped wings. That is from the album Giant

676
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,960
Steps in Gates City. That's Cody Pope and Byron g

677
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,760
And we have Cody Pope here with us, alive in studio,

678
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:51,880
and Uh Mike McDowell, also known as the Healer Uh

679
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:53,239
is in the chat room.

680
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,599
Speaker 2: Hello much love brother.

681
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been on the show. I really enjoy talking

682
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,079
with him doing He's doing a lot of great, great stuff.

683
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,039
Speaker 2: The first time we connected was the last time that

684
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:06,440
we were here. Mike was on the show before us, right,

685
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:09,639
So he was headed out of the building as we

686
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,400
were headed in. Oh yeah, and he stopped us and

687
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:14,880
was like, hey, what's up, Like you guys are going

688
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,119
on like with da da da da da. And that's

689
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:18,599
when we started keeping in touch.

690
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

691
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:22,559
Speaker 2: He let me know about the spot and and he's

692
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:25,920
been a huge advocate for me on this, you know,

693
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:28,519
as I talk about this next chapter of what I'm doing,

694
00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:31,920
he's been a huge advocate for me already letting me

695
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:35,400
do the solo show and like, we that was really

696
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:37,719
kind of the foundation of like how I want to

697
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,119
put shows on again. So we have we have obviously

698
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:42,840
we're gonna be back there with the band. Yeah, we

699
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,360
got some really special stuff in the works. I'm very

700
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:47,519
really grateful that we got connected.

701
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh that's really great. Well, you know, I'm

702
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,599
glad that we were a part of a facilitating that.

703
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,760
That's really cool. Yeah. Yeah, we I think when we

704
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,039
had what we had him on, he was in the

705
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:01,400
process of building up, you know, getting he wasn't open yet.

706
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:04,559
Obviously the spot. But but yeah, we should get him

707
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:06,199
back on to you know, talk about him, see how

708
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,159
things are going. Yeah, he said in the chat, let's

709
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:12,440
see he said, my man Cody Pope, morning boys and Jenny.

710
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:16,360
Uh and he said, love you homeboy, so very nice,

711
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:20,039
very nice. Yeah. And it's you know, it's so important too,

712
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:23,679
you know in the music business, networking and uh, you know,

713
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,840
meeting people, getting out and meeting people and all that.

714
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:31,360
So so that's that's great. Are you So what what

715
00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:33,559
is kind of your I mean, what are you most

716
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:35,840
excited about? Because you're always doing You're always doing a

717
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,039
number of different things like obviously you know, playing with

718
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,440
you know, Cody Pope and the keyholders. That's pretty exciting.

719
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,800
Does that like the the biggest thing or or ah?

720
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,639
Speaker 2: So that is definitely one of the things I'm super

721
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:53,119
excited about. Yeah, but I also keep realistic expectations because

722
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,920
both of my bandmates are in multiple other projects right right,

723
00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:01,079
It's not the kind of thing. But that's why I'm

724
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:04,840
also back doing the solo shows too, because it's like

725
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,000
I feel like now I've put myself in a position

726
00:37:08,199 --> 00:37:11,079
where there's not really a room that I can't attack

727
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,280
if I have enough notice I could ask Byron and

728
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:18,079
me and Byron have a show that's unlike most artist

729
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:21,280
producer duos, and we have a chemistry that I'm so

730
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,840
proud of when we're on stage and on record. Obviously,

731
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,039
as I've been talking about, I can do my solo

732
00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:31,000
shows and I'm doing that again anytime anybody needs any

733
00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:34,679
size room, any place, you know, whatever. And having the

734
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,000
band now it's like those opportunities that may require something

735
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:42,280
a little different than a traditional hip hop thing. Now

736
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,360
with the band, it brings a different live element. We

737
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,760
can do different variations of my songs. We actually we

738
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,280
did a cover at our first show, which, like anybody

739
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,480
that knows me, I kind of like, I don't want

740
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,679
to say I hate covers, but I'm very judgmental of

741
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:03,079
covers in bands that do a lot of covers and

742
00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:08,000
cover bands and things of that nature. But it was

743
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:09,400
like one of those things where I was like, man,

744
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,519
I haven't had a band in so many years, and

745
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:15,440
we're trying to pull this show together on a week's notice,

746
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,920
and we did a cover and it went over incredibly.

747
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:22,760
People went off, and so we were like, well was it?

748
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,800
So we covered break Stuff by Olympus, nice I was

749
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:26,039
in a.

750
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 4: Band a long time ago that actually covered that song.

751
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,519
Speaker 2: People just went bananas because I knew it was going

752
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:35,119
to be a different audience for that show, and so

753
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,000
it was like in my head, it was like, oh,

754
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:40,400
let's do some obscure punk rock cover, like it's something

755
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,119
that's going to like make people smash the walls open.

756
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,760
And then it was like, let's do something that people know, like,

757
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,039
let's do something they could easily get. And and so

758
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:52,239
I've kind of found a little gravity in that where

759
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,960
it's like, Okay, I like picking like one song that

760
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:57,559
we can learn for each show, and so I think

761
00:38:57,599 --> 00:38:59,920
that's kind of become our thing where like every time

762
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:01,440
we do a show, we're going to have like a

763
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:03,599
new cover that we do just for that show.

764
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,639
Speaker 4: Oh okay, Oh that's cool. That's a cool concept.

765
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

766
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 4: I was in a band that we covered when I

767
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,000
was in my life crisis. We covered break stuff. And

768
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,039
it's funny because I related. The reason I laughed when

769
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:17,880
you were talking about covers initially is because I remember

770
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,039
being in that band and I was always kind of like, Guys,

771
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:21,880
our originals are really strong, we don't need to be

772
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,199
doing covers. And I resisted, but you know, I was

773
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,920
out voted on that, but I ended up being glad

774
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,239
we did it because that is a fun song. I

775
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,639
know from personal experience, that's a fun song to play live,

776
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,000
and people get into it, people react to it.

777
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: And I think I got burnt out on like covers

778
00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:39,519
and stuff like that because I worked in the motorcycle

779
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:42,159
industry for a number of years. I was doing marketing

780
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:45,519
and events for different Harley Davidson dealership. Oh okay, and

781
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:48,159
so as you can imagine, like that audience is a

782
00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:50,760
lot different than what I normally work with. Sure, it's

783
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,039
very much play the hits. It's here skinnered, let's you know.

784
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,599
And so it's like doing that for years. It's like, man,

785
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,519
every week it's like we're just listening to God Smack again.

786
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,440
I just listening to whatever, Like butt rock band.

787
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 4: Is like cool.

788
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: At the it's like it just got so draining. It

789
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,800
was like I just want to hear songs I've never

790
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,360
heard before at this point, even if they're not good,

791
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,079
I just want to hear songs I haven't heard yet, right,

792
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:21,719
And so that kind of but I think now I'm

793
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,559
in a good place where it's like it's in doing.

794
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,000
I don't want to call it singing. I feel like

795
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:33,320
that's not There are people who are very incredible vocal

796
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,639
singers who are trained. I don't know what you would

797
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,920
call what I do. But the midst of vocalizing that

798
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,400
I've been trying to add into my like rap style

799
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:47,760
is doing cover songs is like a really good challenge

800
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,199
break stuff. Obviously not exemplary of that, but some of

801
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,239
the stuff that we're doing now is like songs where

802
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,840
it's like, all right, I'm going to try and like

803
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,760
maybe work with a vocal coach to figure out how

804
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,880
to do this song way, and then all the stuff

805
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,920
that I learned in that time I can now apply

806
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:06,679
to the stuff that I write going forward.

807
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:07,039
Speaker 4: Yeah.

808
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: So I'm excited about it in that sense.

809
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:13,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh that's really cool. The time goes quick. You

810
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:15,760
want to do another, you want to do another a cappella,

811
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,440
but I want to make sure we got another one

812
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:19,079
in because I was really cool awesome.

813
00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I'm trying to think if we have if

814
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,920
we have time for one more, should I? Okay? So

815
00:41:27,639 --> 00:41:29,920
I So I was working on this in the car.

816
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,519
I was hoping I was going to get through it.

817
00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:34,760
It's a tough one, but I just did it at

818
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,440
the show that we this past show, and so I've

819
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:43,599
only performed this song two times live now because it's

820
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:46,320
from my last solo album that I did, called The

821
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,239
Howling Man, which came out in twenty twenty one, okay,

822
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,320
and the song is called Moonlight, and it's really just

823
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,599
about like losing people that have passed to drug addiction

824
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,960
and people that have like gone young and stuff like that,

825
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:04,639
and having overcome a lot of that myself. The kind

826
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:09,119
of duality of yeah, like I'm so fortunate to have

827
00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:11,760
come out the other side of this thing, and then

828
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,119
the like, wow, so many people that I knew didn't

829
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,039
and like, you know, it just doesn't always feel great. Yeah,

830
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,519
But the times that I've done this song, it's really

831
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,760
connected with people, and it's really like brought a lot

832
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,920
of like people out of their shell that probably wouldn't

833
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,360
have talked to me or said anything. And so it

834
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,400
was like, all right, maybe I gotta like suck it

835
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:38,639
up and find a way to do this more often. Yeah,

836
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,880
crack open my cheet sheet here just in case I

837
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:43,280
need it.

838
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, if you're just showing us, we have Cody

839
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,239
Pope here with us live in studio.

840
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: So this song is called Moonlight. This is from my

841
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,679
album The Howling Man. Right, candles burning out, staring at

842
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,039
the moonlight. If I'm gonna make it through another spoon

843
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:05,239
light piano man, five bucks. If you play this tune right,

844
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:07,920
trying to see my friends, let my spirit sort of

845
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:11,719
new heights, heart hurts lone survivor of my friend's past.

846
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:14,840
Why this needle make me feeble but not end fast?

847
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,880
Only longevity I seek is that my pen last drive

848
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,760
my car a buck fifty and then crash. Can't explain

849
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,800
death's desire to those who love life. It's way more

850
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,599
than money in having a love life. Brain operate different

851
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:32,760
when you're drained of your thinking. This command vision's way

852
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,360
more than what you're drinking. Yo, it's hard to think

853
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,639
of all my friends gone, forget the ones who abandon them.

854
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:41,920
People bend gone. I know in our life plenty of

855
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:45,199
times I bend wrong. Wish I knew how to speak

856
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,679
instead of this song. It feels, it feels, It feels

857
00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:51,559
that I won't make it, can't take my soul and

858
00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:54,760
feel that I'm still naked. Nah, brother, you can fight

859
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,119
this battle, just another war. Nothing that we haven't overcome

860
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,480
when we've seen before. It feels it feels, it feels

861
00:44:01,519 --> 00:44:04,239
that I won't make it. Can't take my soul and

862
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,519
feel that I'm still naked. Nah, brother, you can fight.

863
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:10,840
This battle just another war, nothing that we haven't overcome

864
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,519
when we've seen before. I can't take it, can't seem

865
00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:18,239
to suppress the fall. My body hurts, brain, tire, depressing.

866
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,159
Y'all You feeling stressed, Hit the gym and go find

867
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:24,119
a brawl. All in all, there's a million ways to survive,

868
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,239
my dog. This world needs you, even that it's most feebled,

869
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,480
Even when you feel like God and the devil both

870
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:32,800
deceive you. You got brothers, you got sisters. We all

871
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,480
receive you. No matter what you gotta say, We're gonna

872
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,480
try to believe you might have strength. Something you gotta

873
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:42,280
fight for. Takes training, takes time, takes a life's work.

874
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,719
Hard to see illumination when your light pours, blinded by

875
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,079
the grinding of your shine and in your fight sores.

876
00:44:48,559 --> 00:44:51,000
Save my number in your phone as never given up.

877
00:44:51,559 --> 00:44:53,599
No matter what I'm doing now, I'm about to give

878
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:56,519
it up. Struggle runs deep. Please, No, I know you

879
00:44:56,639 --> 00:44:59,920
did enough. Please don't ever worry about if you did enough.

880
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:03,199
It feels it feels it feels that I won't make it,

881
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,599
can't take my soul and field that I'm still naked. Nah, brother,

882
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,480
you can fight this battle, just another war, nothing that

883
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:12,920
we have and overcome when we've seen before.

884
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 4: Hmm.

885
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,039
Speaker 2: I like it, thank you.

886
00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:20,559
Speaker 4: I like that line, save my number on your phone

887
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:22,360
has never given up. I like that a lot. Yeah,

888
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,840
I think that's that's really cool. That's really cool, Cody

889
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,480
POPI are with us, alive in the studio, and so

890
00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:31,440
what is the next what what's the next big show

891
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,079
you got coming up? So I go?

892
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: So November sixth, November Wow, September sixth, I'm gonna be

893
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,440
in Northampton, Massachusetts at the Phoenix Rising Art Gallery.

894
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:43,199
Speaker 4: Oh cool.

895
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited about that. Now that'll be a solo show.

896
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,480
September fourteenth, I'm gonna be at the Shaskiine with the

897
00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:55,039
Keyholders for our Electric live set. We're gonna be playing

898
00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:57,119
at Rap Night, so it'll be a little late Sunday

899
00:45:57,199 --> 00:45:57,599
night gig.

900
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

901
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: Then on the only seventh of September, it's going to

902
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,320
be me and the Keyholders again. We're gonna be doing

903
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,440
an unplugged acoustics show at the Spot in Nashua, New Hampshire. Yeah,

904
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:11,840
so that is kind of this month in a nutshell.

905
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

906
00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: In addition to uh, I've been doing I don't know

907
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,400
if we had talked about it the last time I

908
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:19,559
was here or not, but I've been doing a podcast

909
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,679
every Monday. I do a live stream podcast on YouTube

910
00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:24,079
as well. I'm glad you brought that up. Ye, I

911
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:25,960
was curious to ask you about that. Yeah. So it's

912
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:31,760
called Cody Central. We're almost forty episodes deep now, Yeah.

913
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 4: Cool.

914
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: It's been awesome. It's I so every week we essentially

915
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,480
bring on a new guest. We've had chefs, we've had musicians,

916
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:45,039
we've had athletes, we've had life coaches, trauma survivors, all

917
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:48,519
sorts of different people nice And it's been really cool

918
00:46:48,599 --> 00:46:50,800
because it gives me a chance to use my platform

919
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:53,719
to let other people share their stories the way that

920
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,079
like people like you guys give me a chance to

921
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,519
share what I'm doing, you know, and so that's like,

922
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,920
how could I contribute back to the community that I

923
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:02,920
ask so much of.

924
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:04,039
Speaker 4: Oh, that's really cool.

925
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: It's been really cool. Yeah, I've been really privileged to

926
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:11,079
have so many impactful and like really impressive people come

927
00:47:11,159 --> 00:47:12,320
on and share their stories.

928
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 4: That's fantastic.

929
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you do it live? Or is do you

930
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:15,280
see much?

931
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 4: Excellent? Excellent? So it's Monday?

932
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: Is what every Monday? Eight pm on YouTube?

933
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:20,559
Speaker 4: Outstanding?

934
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been really cool. Yeah, we'll definitely have to

935
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,239
have you on the seat sometimes.

936
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 4: Oh I would love it. Yeah, I would love it.

937
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,679
And it's called Cody Central yep. Okay, okay, yeah, I

938
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,199
remember seeing the logo for it. I dig the logo.

939
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,840
But I'm gonna have to check out the show now

940
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:34,639
that I know what it's about.

941
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

942
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:39,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really cool, very good, very good. Let's see

943
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:41,119
anything we didn't mention that you want us to know about.

944
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:42,519
You got a lot going on, so I want to

945
00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:44,440
make sure we don't leave anything unturned before we run

946
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:44,920
out of time.

947
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 2: No, I mean, the biggest thing is just kind of

948
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,599
letting the world know that that I'm back at it

949
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,400
in whatever form you need me to. You know, this

950
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,079
was since Giant Steps and Gates City came out, things

951
00:47:57,559 --> 00:48:00,679
slowed down. Yeah, you know because of at Life and

952
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,559
everything that's happened, and I obviously was part of that.

953
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,280
So I'm just trying to like kind of get the

954
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,079
momentum going again. And next year We're hoping to go

955
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:13,519
back on tour next year. But in the meantime, I'm

956
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:15,280
just trying to kind of fill up with as many

957
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,440
regional dates as I can. I really just want to

958
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,840
get the performing wheels going. I have a ton of

959
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,960
new music in the vault right now, Like me and

960
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:26,960
Byron have a bunch of stuff. I want to release

961
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:29,519
that stuff soon, but I want to do it with him,

962
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:33,679
so so I'm kind of waiting until he's ready and

963
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,159
got the time. When he has the window, we're going

964
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:40,119
to run it and do that stuff. Hopefully we're going

965
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:42,360
to do the Holiday stroll together this year too. That's

966
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,639
been a big tradition of ours for the last three years,

967
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:47,760
so I'm hoping we're going to do that. But I

968
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,000
also have I have an album with eight Biza in

969
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,679
the vault that we're going to do soon. Yeah, We've

970
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,679
been working on it for like the last two years

971
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,840
or so, and once again, it's just a timing thing

972
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,559
and we're gonna we We got plans to do that soon.

973
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,719
I have an EP with a producer from Maine. His

974
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,159
name is Suede breaks and it's really cool. He's a

975
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,599
music teacher and so he actually played all of the

976
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,559
instruments on the record and made these songs and gave

977
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:17,519
them to me. And I've had these for a while too,

978
00:49:18,639 --> 00:49:21,519
and so I'm gonna that's another project that we've got

979
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:25,360
in the vault. There's a producer from Maine named Graphic Melee.

980
00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:30,239
If you've heard of him. He's a multi instrumentalist, producer,

981
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,199
DJ rapper, but he's from Portland and he hosts a

982
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,239
show called Stereo Dreams every month that's like a producer showcase. Cool,

983
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,119
and he sent me a batch of beats. So him

984
00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:42,039
and I have a really cool project that's going to

985
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:44,760
be coming out as well. Yeah, the band and I

986
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,480
are writing some music that like so right now the band,

987
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:52,000
we play like songs for my catalog that we're working

988
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:55,079
on writing some new music that'll be like indicative of

989
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,719
just the band. Okay, So we got that stuff coming.

990
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,880
And then I also have a project that's going to

991
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,719
be coming out. I don't know if it'll be late

992
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,440
this year or next year, but I have an album

993
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,320
coming out. It's called Cranberry Cody, and I'm going to

994
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,800
be playing most of the instruments on that. Oh, it's

995
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,000
going to be a little more of like a indie

996
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:19,719
rock alt rock kind of instrumentation with my like rap

997
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:20,800
vocal stylings.

998
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,519
Speaker 4: Oh, very cool to it. Yeah, no, you got a

999
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:26,599
lot in the pipeline. That's fantastic exactly. And where should

1000
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:28,000
people go on line to keep up with everything?

1001
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: So everything is Cody dash Pope dot com, c O.

1002
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:36,920
D Y Dash Pope dot com or Hellhound Publishing dot com.

1003
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:39,119
But that Hellhound is the universe.

1004
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent. Hey, it's great to see you, man,

1005
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,400
Thank you, thank you so much.

1006
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: So much. I'm so grateful. You guys have given me

1007
00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:48,960
a platform so many different times. So it's really cool

1008
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,199
that I come in.

1009
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1010
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,119
Speaker 2: You know, it's like New Hampshire is a small place

1011
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,519
and there's not there's not many radio stations like this

1012
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,920
where you can just go and pop up and perform

1013
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:02,519
and talk and promote yourself and and you know, it's

1014
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,079
it's really special what you guys do. So I'm grateful

1015
00:51:05,159 --> 00:51:06,480
to be part of it for sure.

1016
00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you. Well, we're happy to have you here.

1017
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,559
I appreciate that very much. Absolutely, And Jenny, you've got

1018
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:13,400
a big week ahead of you. You want to plug

1019
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,159
your website so people know where to keep up with

1020
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,880
everything you're doing. Good luck.

1021
00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 3: Yes, come check me out at GENCOFPY dot com. J

1022
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,119
E n n c O f f UI dot com.

1023
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,320
You can check out the article from my new first

1024
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:26,920
byline on common Dreams.

1025
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,519
Speaker 4: Yes, up there on the on the blog.

1026
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: And yeah, I might be doing some stuff this week,

1027
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:33,719
so you might want to, you know, check it out

1028
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,079
maybe midweek or so.

1029
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,519
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yes, yes, definitely good trouble and uh And if

1030
00:51:39,559 --> 00:51:42,840
you are listening live on Saturday, coming up at three

1031
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,360
pm today, this is not on the radio station. This

1032
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,360
will strictly be online, but a bonus fourth hour of

1033
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,519
Matt Connorton Unleashed that will strictly be online, So keep

1034
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:55,840
your eye on the social media. I'll be interviewing a

1035
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,599
Senate candidate, Karishma Manzor. Yes she is. I'm gonna be

1036
00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:02,719
out here in the North and I think she's wonderful.

1037
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: Yep.

1038
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,679
Speaker 4: We're gonna be doing a stream with her today at

1039
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:06,679
three pm live, So keep an eye on the Matt

1040
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,320
Connorton Unleashed social media channels. And if you don't get

1041
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,960
to see it live, it will be in the podcast feed.

1042
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,000
Uh and again that is completely separate from the radio station,

1043
00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:17,440
so that is online only and then also online only

1044
00:52:17,519 --> 00:52:19,760
a little bit later in the day, I'll be doing

1045
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,880
a live episode of Tough Bumps with Eric Pilcher and

1046
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,320
we'll be talking about the Rajah Jackson situation. That whole

1047
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,480
debacle attempted murder in my view, but seriously, but hey,

1048
00:52:29,559 --> 00:52:31,039
but Eric and I are going to talk about that

1049
00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:34,639
later today. So a lot's going on, but I'm gonna

1050
00:52:34,639 --> 00:52:38,719
sneak in this track Layers, I think from Cody Pope

1051
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,039
and Byron g from Giant Steps in Gate City, and

1052
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,280
we'll we'll play us out with that. But Cody again,

1053
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,480
thank you so much. Absolutely, and we'll talk to you

1054
00:52:49,559 --> 00:53:16,000
a little bit later. Bye everybody, Bye bye, Layers.

1055
00:53:16,199 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm complicated like a game of multiple players.

1056
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: Everybody always got their target on a favor, yet they

1057
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,880
needs and barely got time to see you later that

1058
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,239
you expected to be up and out your wagon. Not

1059
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,960
the day if my brain mostly got for the deep end,

1060
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,760
it's all the same, no looking to what's the weekend?

1061
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:34,039
Speaker 1: Pretty judgmental.

1062
00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm honest, I got some weak friends paint then see

1063
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,800
the cap win inside of these men never could settle,

1064
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,280
but I know I could do better dead or the

1065
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,519
debtor still chasing me with brettos hot is the kettle.

1066
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:47,119
Speaker 1: The water won't stop to settle.

1067
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 5: Medal the letters and dead on the slow pedals.

1068
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 2: Past that Nick now pragmatic with us a grand year

1069
00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:56,719
making moves to what I do like SUSA dancers already.

1070
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,239
You know we could be New Hampshire's answer. But someone

1071
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,360
rock with us till we're making cures for cancer legas.

1072
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:05,760
Why it all got to be so complicated by my

1073
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,000
brain cave when I know that I should make it

1074
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,599
PLoP maps for others for stumble my feet naked legus

1075
00:54:11,679 --> 00:54:12,360
up on legos.

1076
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: The puzzles anteep in singers.

1077
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 2: Why it all got to be so complicated by my

1078
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,559
brain cave when I know that I should make it

1079
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,280
plot maps for others to stumble my feet.

1080
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: Naked leg us upon legos. The puzzles are deep in singers.

1081
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: The brain is a machine that's a laborred like trying

1082
00:54:28,519 --> 00:54:32,000
to draw a map well inside a labyrinth. Emotional roller,

1083
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:35,719
coastic kinky can involve standing stronger. Some days it feels

1084
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,039
like man O fall hard to teach when life's a

1085
00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:40,559
race on the learning curve. I'm trying to reach the

1086
00:54:40,679 --> 00:54:43,880
peak with how I'm burning words. Always seek to speak

1087
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,960
something to see the light. Also, my own darkness can

1088
00:54:47,079 --> 00:54:50,039
always be the right on in the argument. Often so

1089
00:54:50,159 --> 00:54:50,800
what's donush?

1090
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,639
Speaker 1: And communication gets so off?

1091
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:56,159
Speaker 2: We started monishing, administer bring hay instead of seeking to

1092
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,599
understand while we hate another, instead of lending the hand.

1093
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,679
Damn And if we don't break the cycles that we've

1094
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,159
been chained by the same mistakes that I've made.

1095
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: I've been drained by.

1096
00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: Been so long since I can say I was saying, Man,

1097
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:10,880
I know there's legas in my brain. Need to change

1098
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,519
playing legas? Why it all got to be so complicated?

1099
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,079
Why my brain cave when I know that I should

1100
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:19,519
make it? Can PLoP maps for others? Be stumble my

1101
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:23,320
feet naked legus upon lega's. The puzzles are deepest sagas?

1102
00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:26,719
Why it all gotta be yo so complicated? Why my

1103
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,960
brain cave when I know that I should make it?

1104
00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:32,599
Can PLoP maps for others? Bestumble my feet naked legas

1105
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:38,920
upon legers. The puzzles are deepest sacred. You're listening to you,

1106
00:55:39,199 --> 00:55:43,360
Matt Connorton, unleash tell you if it Ah ninety five

1107
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:44,079
point three