WEBVTT 1 00:00:34.359 --> 00:02:33.680 M dire wave. The scientific method cannot justify the scientific method. 2 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:36.719 Therefore itself is a dogmatic. 3 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:42.759 Reser subsisions. 4 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:14.800 Still stop. 5 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:33.000 Stop stop, stop, stop stop stop, stop stop stops, let's 6 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:38.840 stop stop stop, let's stop. 7 00:03:39.879 --> 00:04:36.240 Stops insteads insens extends stood stock stop stocks stone and 8 00:04:36.519 --> 00:05:37.560 stop stone stops stop on stocks stop stocks stop stop ships, sis, SIS. 9 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:33.439 SIS S. 10 00:05:55.399 --> 00:06:01.000 S S stud. 11 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:45.160 The Brazenski model, the technocraft model, is much more interested 12 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:50.199 in the incremental slow, killed babing an approach to bring 13 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:54.959 technocracy into being. So they're not going to send homeland 14 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:57.439 security troops to round you up and put you in 15 00:06:57.560 --> 00:06:58.240 a FEMA camp. 16 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:05.040 They'd much rather remote everybody being in video games, the Disney. 17 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:08.439 Gulog, the virtual reality gulog, all this kind of stuff 18 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:11.839 is in much better FEMA camp in your home. They 19 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:14.959 don't need the FEMA camp. It's it's too messy, it's 20 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:20.439 a big ordeal, and it's all the nonsense of all 21 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:22.120 the patriot crap on the radio. 22 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:24.079 That's not gonna happen. 23 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:29.040 They don't need to the shadow of the global government 24 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:32.120 is already here. And as we said that it's in 25 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:36.000 the latter stages of the mopping up process to move 26 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:39.839 it into the next phase, i e. Between two ages 27 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:40.879 of the next page. 28 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:27.959 Once you have atheism, there's not really any foundation. Anything 29 00:08:28.040 --> 00:09:33.120 can come and uplish. 30 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:42.240 Insish fish ship splash ash ash ash welsh ash ash 31 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:54.200 lash ships ships storms shsh ash ash ash rash ash 32 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:58.000 ash mash. 33 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:36.879 Ash throughout the course of philosophy. We can see in 34 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:42.639 history when you divorce anthropology from this kind of a 35 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:47.200 revealed framework that we're going to talk about, what you 36 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:51.879 get is basically disaster, and you get things like reductionistic 37 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:54.960 materialism and so forth that ultimately wipe out the notion 38 00:11:55.159 --> 00:11:57.440 of where it is to be human person. And when 39 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:00.159 there's no notion of a human person, than things like 40 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:03.159 free will, delition, these all all the way by the wayside, 41 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:06.519 because they're ultimately a looser. If the world is a 42 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:10.200 determined materialistic process, then free will is a laser, and 43 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:11.240 so is consciousness. 44 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:59.919 H mm hmm. 45 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:58.919 Thirty thousand chatnirks, thirty thousand chat nerds, thirty thousand can. 46 00:13:58.799 --> 00:13:59.600 You hear me, nurse? 47 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:06.240 Forty thousand of you live? Thirty thousand chaps yourself nerds 48 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:07.480 are we. 49 00:14:07.600 --> 00:15:39.799 Lyve said nothing? 50 00:15:52.679 --> 00:16:40.360 And students sent. 51 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:56.159 S s S S S s. 52 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:08.119 S h s s s s s s stut s 53 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:16.480 s s s s s s s s s. 54 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:20.200 S s s. 55 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:27.160 S s s. 56 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:59.119 S distant sus sus s s schemes. 57 00:19:05.839 --> 00:19:32.160 There you got a. 58 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:40.039 Bargain day her. 59 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:42.200 Yes, a right. 60 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:25.319 H m hmm. 61 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:38.440 If only your antics were live. Ah, there we go. 62 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:39.680 Let me make yours. 63 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:43.400 So you can once again be a star like you 64 00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:43.799 want to be. 65 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:48.319 Star. That's all I got. I'm a big, bright, shining star. 66 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:50.240 What's that? 67 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:50.960 What movie is that? 68 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:51.240 From? 69 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.559 What Bogie Nights? 70 00:20:57.599 --> 00:20:57.759 Oh? 71 00:20:57.839 --> 00:20:58.720 I don't even remember that. 72 00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:02.039 Hear that? It's like I'm a star. I'm a big 73 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:05.240 right shining star. It's got like this crazy mom. That's 74 00:21:05.279 --> 00:21:09.319 actually a decent movie for being such a big getre. 75 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:21.160 There we go. Now we can see beautiful glowing faces. 76 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:22.880 I can never get the light right in here. 77 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:26.119 The thing is, no matter how much you wipe the camera, 78 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:28.279 you can't wipe the ugly at. 79 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:31.319 It you know you're talking about on your screen? 80 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:36.960 Ooh, burn, what's happing? 81 00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:43.160 Make sure I got the right crap turned on here? 82 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:46.920 Multi output? Yeah, there we go. All right, we finally 83 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:51.279 got it going. I'm always late as usual. You can 84 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:55.880 always count on me to be consistently late, with Madman 85 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:58.880 Tristan joining us two hundred and eighty nerds as we 86 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:08.240 start to Night's break down. He's losing it, Tristan. The 87 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:13.000 vegans are triggered this week, dude, this. 88 00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:15.359 Has been like, this is probably one of the most 89 00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:19.400 hardcore vegan triggering weeks ever and we didn't We only 90 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:22.200 talked to that guy for like less than two minutes. 91 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:26.400 He didn't even debate. But there's still miss man. It's 92 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:30.160 like a like we you know, swatted a wasp's nest 93 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:32.359 or something they're swarming, and. 94 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:36.359 He's tagged you like every day, like ten times a day, 95 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:38.240 and everything he posts this. 96 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:40.839 Has to remind me how much he owned me, right, Like, 97 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:43.119 that's why he That's why he hasn't tagged me twenty 98 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:48.759 times and dm me constantly twitter tagging. I blocked him 99 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:51.480 on Twitter and Instagram, so I was just sick of 100 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:55.160 the tagging and the DM But yeah, yeah, I'm not 101 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:58.920 really sure what his narrative is now. But I haven't 102 00:22:58.920 --> 00:23:00.559 watched any of his videos, but I think he's made 103 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:04.480 about three videos in the last few days. I think 104 00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:08.319 there's he's done like ten hours of streaming about our well, 105 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:10.839 like ten minutes that he was even on my live stream. 106 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:15.160 I couldn't believe he did a six hour stream immediately 107 00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:19.839 after leaving our little tip protect like, you don't have 108 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.359 nothing else going on that you're going to spend six 109 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:26.079 hours talking about the ten minutes that we interacted. And 110 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:30.119 you said that that a logic, that a informal fallacy 111 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.359 is not a logical fallacy, which is pretty funny. 112 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:36.519 Well, I mean, I don't get it, man. You did it. 113 00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:39.480 You ask him if he had any education. He basically 114 00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:39.880 said no. 115 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:43.039 Uh, I googled. 116 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:43.799 I googled it. 117 00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:46.039 He literally said, he googled it. 118 00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:49.680 I googled something, dude. I that was one of the 119 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:52.400 strangest encounters I've had with a vegan yet. And the 120 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:54.960 fact that he was so he was so adamant that 121 00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:57.839 he wanted to come and debate me, and he was taunting. 122 00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:01.039 He made like three taunt videos and I was I 123 00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:03.039 didn't even watch the top videos. I was gonna watch 124 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:05.200 them with him so we could respond to like whatever, 125 00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:07.880 you know, straw Man. He tried to pull yeah, but 126 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:09.920 he didn't. He didn't even want to bring an argument. 127 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:12.279 I don't I don't really understand, but I guess what 128 00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:14.519 I'm seeing from the vegan comments after the fact, is 129 00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:17.720 the narrative that's being woven is we pushed that we 130 00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:19.640 were so scared of Ask yourself. We were just so 131 00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:20.359 afraid of the. 132 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:23.440 Debate that we were scared. 133 00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:26.319 We're so scared even though we've already debated, ask yourself. 134 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:28.519 And he's been begging for he's been begging for a 135 00:24:28.599 --> 00:24:32.079 rematch for what two years now, ask yourself? And that's 136 00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:35.039 because he knows he won, right, you beg for a 137 00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:39.680 rematch and because you know you won. But yeah, what 138 00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:42.839 was I gonna say? There was a Oh, the narrative 139 00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:46.640 seems to be that I'm getting from the vegans. The 140 00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:49.720 message seems to be that I'm bald, bald man bad 141 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:52.519 seems to be the main argument, and the other arguments 142 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.039 are I muted him in our debate. We didn't even debate. 143 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:58.799 I muted him because he was saying nothing, and he 144 00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:01.519 kept saying, oh, well, so you're cooking out, You're gonna 145 00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:03.279 cook out, You're gonna woos out, and I'm just like, dude, 146 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:06.559 you're fucking muted. So anyways, I was muting him even 147 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:09.039 though we weren't even debating. And I guess that was 148 00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:11.720 that that made me lose the debate that didn't even happen. 149 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:14.519 The delusion is just next level right now. I don't 150 00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:16.880 really know how to keep up, but it's exciting, you know. 151 00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:19.039 I'm glad to be on their minds. We got some 152 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:21.079 super fans. It seems most of my super fans are 153 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:24.839 from the vegan the vegan world. But yeah, we'll see 154 00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:25.480 what happens maybe. 155 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:25.680 Though. 156 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:28.039 I did three nights in a row of open lines 157 00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:29.359 and not a single vegan called in. 158 00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:32.200 I thought you call in, didn't you have one? 159 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:34.720 You're right one? But she was really cool. 160 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:37.240 She was okay. By the way, thank you for that 161 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:39.519 fat super chat you did the last stream. I was 162 00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:42.599 starting to get a really neck crick headache going as 163 00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:44.680 kind of part of the reason I cut that stream quick. 164 00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:45.960 I did some other things that had to go do, 165 00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:48.759 but just testing it out. Look at that. That was 166 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.880 that last super chat we got from old Trist himself. 167 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:55.480 Good old Trists, old bald ass Trist. 168 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:59.240 And bald as Trist And who is nutrient nutrient deficient 169 00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:04.400 from his meat serial killer Hannibal elector diet Yes, and 170 00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:06.279 all the vegans are buff and. 171 00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:13.720 Strong and vegans No, there's no, it was amazing. Is 172 00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:16.240 there's no such thing as about vegan right, there's not 173 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:17.279 not a single. 174 00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:22.079 I mean Herrench one inch herbivor. I keep calling him 175 00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:27.480 inch herbivor, but that may be construed as a penile attack. 176 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:34.240 But one INTIVORTI war. He has a bald head as 177 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:36.119 far as I could tell, I mean maybe. 178 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:39.519 No, no, but that's but no, that's different. 179 00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:39.960 Yeah. 180 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:44.440 And also doctor Gregor right there, Uh, that's different. That's uh, 181 00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:51.200 that's from nutrient optimization and high testoster minds from cholesterol 182 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:54.359 and lack of lack of veganism and lack of logic, 183 00:26:54.599 --> 00:26:56.839 lack of love and denial of science. Right that these 184 00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:57.920 are the arguments that you have. 185 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:00.720 You have hannibal le tourism in you. 186 00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:02.119 That's right. 187 00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:05.400 I got the elect electarian, I. 188 00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:09.759 Got that the meat. 189 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:10.720 They like the. 190 00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:16.720 I don't know at this point. I will wait it 191 00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:18.599 out and we'll see if these people want to call in. 192 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:20.400 I mean that that did still welcome, will come on. 193 00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:24.000 Whatever that fact's name was listening vegan logic after his 194 00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:26.119 real name. But he's welcome to come on. You can 195 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:28.640 come and debate anytime, like I do, open do open, 196 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:31.519 what's called open lines. I'll do another open lines probably 197 00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:34.119 next weekend. So any any vegans, you guys want to 198 00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:35.480 come in, you guys want to debate, or if it's 199 00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:36.559 just you know, friendly. 200 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:39.200 The girl, the girl that we were laughing at calling 201 00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:46.680 Marina Abramovic's Marinka Abronkovich's daughter. She messaged me, but Jinaka 202 00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:47.599 had messaged me too. 203 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:50.079 She she emailed me and she came on. 204 00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:52.039 She was the one who came on. Is she the 205 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:52.640 one that came on? 206 00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:56.319 Yeah? She was. Actually she was actually pretty cool, like 207 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:00.400 she was, uh, she was mellow. We talked about I mean, 208 00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:02.559 I disagree with her. I think she's kind of illusional 209 00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.319 about some things. I think she's completely wrong about a 210 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.920 lot of things. No, she was not psychotic, and she 211 00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:11.359 was was she was amiable and she could have a conversation, right, 212 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:14.119 So she got more balls than lifting vegan logic. Which 213 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:16.240 the way that he did it was just so funny. 214 00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:18.559 The way he did that. This dude knew damn well 215 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.240 that we are never like, we're not about to debate. 216 00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:24.759 Ask yourself again unless there's some extreme circumstance to make 217 00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:27.799 it extra worth it and extra entertaining. But there's no 218 00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:29.519 point in it, right, and he's not welcome here. I 219 00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:31.200 know he's been stalking you for two years. 220 00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:31.880 I got it. 221 00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:34.920 I had to block him on YouTube, Instagram, I think 222 00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:37.599 Twitter as well, just because the incessant tagging and trying 223 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.599 to challenge me to rematches. So what's his face? New 224 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:44.759 that we weren't about to have ask yourself on yet 225 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:47.759 he brought him. Anyways, I just thought it was funny. 226 00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:49.720 It's kind of like when like a you know, like 227 00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:51.000 sixth grade or something. 228 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:52.400 Like. 229 00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:54.799 It's like he's like he picked a fight and then 230 00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.240 trying to bring his big brother to the fight. But 231 00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:00.240 his big brother is a giant pussy also, so it's 232 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:03.440 it's kind of, yeah, it didn't really work out. 233 00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:05.440 Mine than you. 234 00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:10.160 It's wide and it's strong, gut. 235 00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:10.519 I go. 236 00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:20.240 Inch King war. By the way, shout out to Mark Passio. 237 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.880 Shout Mark Passio. When you when you're coming on, man, 238 00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:26.279 that's that's the next one. Let's get the Mark Passio debate. 239 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:27.279 Mark. Come on. 240 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:29.960 We know you're you're huge fans, uh, come on you. 241 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.960 We can debate your natural law or free Masonic law, 242 00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:38.680 or your great work or your widow's son's peak or whatever. 243 00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:42.200 It's a great work on the widow's peak of your 244 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.880 widows son's peak or your uh, you can bring your 245 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.880 two ball cane and your I don't know you can. 246 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:51.240 You can even wear your cute little skirt thing, your 247 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:54.039 gay little skirt where you have your holies of holies 248 00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:57.480 underneath it, as you call it. You got your two 249 00:29:57.559 --> 00:29:58.599 bull cane underneath that. 250 00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:06.960 That's a two ball candy. Okay, you know you you 251 00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:08.920 have no idea how. 252 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:11.519 Strong I am on a vegan dying. 253 00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:12.400 I want to find out. 254 00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:18.079 Come on, dude, be best discovery ever. Though, maybe we 255 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.359 should just watch that right now. Mark Passio's got a band. 256 00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:23.319 I don't know if you can play his musical copyright strike. 257 00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:26.759 You can't copyright strike. If you play his music, it's 258 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:27.680 not copyrighted. 259 00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:31.240 But if you play somebody's clip, they can let it 260 00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:31.839 be known. 261 00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.640 That Jaydre is afraid to play. 262 00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:37.599 But let it be the Jay. 263 00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:42.680 Look, I'm aggressive. I'm a Passio, aggressive. 264 00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:51.839 Male Passio the bomb. I don't know the I don't 265 00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.279 really see any other vegan debates on the horizon. There's 266 00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:57.960 no legitimate debaters out there in the vegan world. Like 267 00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.039 their best thing is vegan game and ask yourself. They 268 00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:02.599 think that that's like the cream of the crop. 269 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:08.039 So you know, Tristan, really, when I was able to 270 00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:11.039 google a little bit and I ran a bunch of 271 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.920 scientific papers and I realized that they're pure reviewed, and 272 00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.920 then I just signed that I had an only fans account. 273 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:21.119 It was just sitting there, and so didn't he put 274 00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:22.559 his junk on only fans? Now? 275 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:25.400 He did? He did? I mean that's according to a 276 00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:26.400 screenshot of Twitter. 277 00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:30.200 H no, I'm talking about you did it wrongs video. 278 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.359 I'm gonna go look at began gains is vegetables. 279 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:36.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I have Fortunately I have not 280 00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.640 seen it yet, but he had not yet, but I 281 00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:41.319 don't plan on seeing it at all. But yeah, I 282 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.200 guess he did. He's he's gone next level. He's got 283 00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:48.079 full social media fentanyl on it. He's up on the 284 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:53.279 only fans. Oh man, I just imagine. I can't imagine 285 00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:53.640 doing that. 286 00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:59.319 I think that you kind of got to the bottom 287 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.160 of it when you've met many times the fact that 288 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:05.799 a lot of the people who grew up that age 289 00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:09.119 of the millennial and younger, they have been just raised 290 00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:13.359 on devices and so everything is on the table, everything 291 00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:14.759 is normalized basically. 292 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:19.079 Yeah, Well, then even the social interactions are just so fake, 293 00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.759 and I mean, imagine, so we pulled that vegan on 294 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:26.119 the other day up until the ask yourself to backle 295 00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:28.440 and then the stupid Weasley games he tried to play. 296 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.200 When that happened, I would say we were pretty dang 297 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:34.079 kind to him, and you know, I was asking him questions, 298 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.400 trying to get him loosened up. But he's just sitting 299 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.880 there looking around, looking at his phone. That that's I mean, 300 00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:42.039 I think he's like twenty two, twenty one years old. 301 00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.480 He's really young. That's that generation man, Like half of 302 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:49.240 that generation are just zonked, just zonked, pilled out, nothing 303 00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:52.680 in their head except vanity pride, and it's just it's. 304 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.880 Sad man and the never ending quest to become a 305 00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:56.519 Nissa Leb. 306 00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:57.720 Yeah. 307 00:32:57.960 --> 00:32:59.720 Yeah, Well it was funny. I made fun of him 308 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:01.759 because he he had that little faded beard. He had 309 00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:04.359 this like Jersey shore, you know, like took him three 310 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:07.119 hours to trim his beard. I made fun of him, 311 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.839 but then he he tried, he tried to. I guess 312 00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:12.440 he interpreted as I was talking about his hairdoo, and 313 00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:15.279 he was very adamant at pointing out that my lack 314 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:18.200 of hair, right so the bald man bad. So I 315 00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:21.279 just it's so funny to me, how like the arguments 316 00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.640 are basically new. It's just it's just you're baldman bad, 317 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:29.799 You're bad, You're a murderer, and that's it. I I 318 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:31.960 don't know, I don't know what other vegans are there. 319 00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:32.160 Well. 320 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.400 I had a similar experience this week too with the 321 00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:40.160 attempt at trying to organize debates with Roman Catholics, Taylor 322 00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:45.880 Marshall's former co Hounk co Honk. I like co I 323 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:47.559 like co Honk better than co host. 324 00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:50.519 I'm here with my co hunk j co Honk like 325 00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:52.640 honkler like like a honky. 326 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:59.359 Yeah. Tim Gordongu, excuse me, Gordon, not gordong. Tim gordong 327 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:05.319 Uh was talking smack and initially wanted to do a 328 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.559 debate and said, give me four months. I said four 329 00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:12.880 months to do a debate. I said, dude, I'll debate 330 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:16.519 this week. No, I want four months. So, as I 331 00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.280 was pondering, all right, I might do this, then he 332 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.960 upped the ante and he says, no, it must be 333 00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:25.039 four months, and then must be in person, and you 334 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:29.480 must fly to random Middle America city and if you don't, 335 00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:33.199 you're scared. So this is dubai. 336 00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:35.880 We're gonna go a tag hashtag and if you don't 337 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:36.599 show up, your scirit. 338 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:40.000 So do you see the trick here, because so three 339 00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.519 Roman Catholics now have done this where it's with William Albrecht, 340 00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:48.800 Trent horn H and then now Timothy Gordong where they 341 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:51.320 do this thing where they say, if you don't show 342 00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.519 up to what I've now up the anti to a 343 00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.559 in person debate, you have chickened out and you're scared. 344 00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.159 When initially the discussion was do you want the come 345 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:01.920 on a live stream in the next week or two 346 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:04.320 to a debate? No, no, no, it has to be 347 00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:06.159 four months or no oh wait no, now it has 348 00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:09.400 to be in person at some random Middle America city. 349 00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:13.679 So what they will do is float the idea, taunt you, 350 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:18.800 and then when you don't agree to their ridiculous criteria 351 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:21.880 of how oh it needs to be in person. Meanwhile, 352 00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:25.559 these people debate on YouTube streams all the time every day. 353 00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:27.639 I mean, we've been in a COVID lockdown where these 354 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:29.840 people are debating every day on live streams, going on 355 00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:32.119 live streaming. Oh but they're too busy to do a 356 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:34.760 debate unless it's in person four months from now, which 357 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.760 is all just ludicrous. It's all hot air. And the 358 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:39.360 only reason I bring all that up is this is 359 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:44.159 exactly what Vegan Logic did, where he knew that we 360 00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:49.320 weren't going to interact with goofus and then, which is 361 00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:50.440 why when I called him out when. 362 00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.519 He's saying, oh, and I saw your debate with Vegan 363 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:56.079 Games and that other person, and I specifically stopped and 364 00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:59.119 I said, what's the other person's name? Who's the other person? Yeah, 365 00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:01.079 I don't givenybody wants to go back and watch it. 366 00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:03.400 I specifically stopped at them when I said who, and 367 00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:05.039 he made I made him say his name. He said 368 00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:08.119 ask yourself, Oh okay, and then he brings them in. 369 00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:13.400 But it was it was pure, pure games. And as 370 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.880 soon as as soon as it was over, he was 371 00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:18.960 already tagging me and trying to posture like he has 372 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:20.840 somehow won some battle. It's like, dude, you can still 373 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:23.079 come on a debate like there's there was no battle 374 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:25.679 won by you. I mean, I guess maybe maybe there 375 00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:28.000 was no battle lost by you either, depending on who 376 00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.239 you asked. But you can just you can come back on, man. 377 00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.039 So I don't know, I think it's I think he's 378 00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.199 got a little narcissistic wound. I don't think he's ever 379 00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:38.679 debated anybody. He was really, I guess excited for some reason. 380 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:41.440 He didn't bring an argument. It's like, you don't even 381 00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:44.920 have an argument. And he tried again the thing of oh, 382 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:48.159 we prepared, we had a whole plan, did you how 383 00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:49.320 much did you? And I planned? 384 00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:55.039 Jay, I didn't planning anything at all, planned nothing except 385 00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:58.159 except me talk. And I was like, dude, I told her, 386 00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.679 I mean, in twenty years, I don't think I've heard 387 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:03.599 a new atheist type of argument. I don't even remember 388 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:05.000 the last time I've heard one that was. 389 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:07.960 And the only conversation we had was I told you, 390 00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:09.320 you know what, I'm pretty sure he's gonna try to 391 00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:11.400 bring ask Yourself. That'd be really lame if he does. 392 00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:13.760 If he does, we'll just kick Ask Yourself and he 393 00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:15.800 can stay, or we can just you know, we we'll 394 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:17.559 just keep streaming without the guys that they're going to 395 00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:21.000 play those gay games. And lo and behold, he did 396 00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:22.119 exactly what we predicted. 397 00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.400 Yeah, I knew he was going to bring Ask Yourself 398 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:26.679 because in the little bit of the videos I'd watched 399 00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.840 he was just repeating these kind of really basic level 400 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.360 misunderstandings of the transcetal argument. He was like, you can't 401 00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:37.519 use Chenil argument because like you're just assuming the thing 402 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.000 they're talking about, and so it's not approved. It's just 403 00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.039 asserting it. But do you notice when you listen to 404 00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:48.239 Big and Logic talk, he's he's a little like he's 405 00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:50.360 a little bit of another one of these people who 406 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.800 maybe even seems to like he has autism and that 407 00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:56.280 he just kind of like he just sat there scrolling 408 00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:58.239 on the phone like this for like ten minutes. 409 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:02.519 Yeah. Yeah, it was very strange. 410 00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:04.360 And I don't know. 411 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:06.159 I mean, if you're gonna come to a debate and 412 00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:08.159 you got no arguments and you're not prepared to debate 413 00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:10.480 at all, and you can't even I thought you were 414 00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:12.599 lifting Vegan logic. I thought you had the points, how 415 00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:14.440 you had to talking points. You were gonna wreck me, 416 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:17.039 You're gonna destroy me. You still you can still have 417 00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:18.719 a chance, dude, Like you can still come on and 418 00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:20.239 do it, even though you've been sperging out. 419 00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.159 They don't want to debate. They only want to have 420 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:27.880 drama so that they can claim that you've pulled out 421 00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:31.559 of a debate. Is how many years have I organized 422 00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:36.000 public debates, debated top Muslims, top atheists, you name it. 423 00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:37.920 And then they're playing like. 424 00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:44.400 Yeah, well, and then now he's saying, oh well, I 425 00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:47.960 demanded debate on a neutral channel, A debate on a 426 00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:48.719 neutral channel. 427 00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:50.840 What's your response to that? Primal edge health? Why will 428 00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:52.320 you not debate him on a neutral channel? 429 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:54.920 Why would Why would I write like I do? I do? 430 00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:57.559 How many streams a week? I've done five streams in 431 00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.119 the last like seven days. All those streams are three 432 00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:02.800 to four hours. Like three of those five streams I've 433 00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:05.519 opened up. I've done an open line zoom calls where 434 00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.639 anybody could call in right one vingan called in the 435 00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:10.760 whole time, one being called in. The rest were all 436 00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:15.880 friendlies and just people looking for some help. Why would 437 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:17.599 I not do it on a so called visual platform? 438 00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:19.840 Why would Why would I? What do I have to 439 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.519 gain from going into dating this nobody who's obsessed with 440 00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:26.639 me acting like a like a weird ex girlfriend in 441 00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:27.360 eighth grade. 442 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.119 Yeah, he's got three three thousand subs and he's literally 443 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:32.639 tagging you like five times a day. It's weird. 444 00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:34.800 And his argument is now, Oh, I looked at your 445 00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:38.239 metrics and your channel. Your channel has very bad engagement. 446 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:41.239 And if I had these many viewers exactly, I would 447 00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:42.559 have five billion views if I. 448 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:44.639 Had as many of yours as you And your channel 449 00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:46.760 is not popular, and I'm more popular than you. 450 00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:48.679 And I looked at the back end, and you're not popular, 451 00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:51.760 but I'm popular as if as if the numbers have anything. 452 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.039 You know, half of my audience tells me all the 453 00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:56.880 time that they get auto unsubscribed by YouTube. A lot 454 00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:58.639 of people who've been long term viewers and long term 455 00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:01.320 supporters and super chatters tell me, dude, I've been unsubscribed 456 00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:02.039 four or five times. 457 00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:03.960 I never getting because. 458 00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:08.280 It's like and but they're always revealing what they give 459 00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:11.440 a shit about. I want a bit popular. I'm more 460 00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.039 popular than you, Like, That's that's what they care about. 461 00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:16.400 They care about the attention, they care about the fake 462 00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:19.119 sense of clout, and they care about the fake ego 463 00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:20.760 game of the online world, which I don't give a 464 00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.599 shit about any about any of that. Like, I'll debate anybody, anyone, 465 00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:25.599 if you can come on. I'm not going to prep 466 00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:28.559 for any of your debates, right because the arguments stand 467 00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.119 on their own. So anyways, that's that's kind of I 468 00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:34.400 guess a good summary of the last week of vegan 469 00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:38.360 attacks online. Vegans, keep them coming, please. 470 00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:41.880 Videos our stuff. Tonight we got a nice fat super 471 00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:43.639 chat from Zach. Will read that here in a minute 472 00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:45.840 if you want to support the show. Of course, you know, 473 00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:48.039 stream labs is now the means by which we do 474 00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:51.800 the super chats, and uh that is the link there. 475 00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:53.440 And yes to the people in the chat. If you 476 00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:56.840 remember last year, this month was spook tober A Jason 477 00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:59.679 Aliso somebody covered quite a few spooky things and we 478 00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:01.599 had a lot of fun doing the Lost Boys and 479 00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:05.920 the whole Sexy sax Man. That's a that's gonna be, 480 00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:12.000 I think, a yearly, routine, yearly ceremony where we relive 481 00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:17.039 and replay and sing the Sexy sax Man Lost Boys stuff. 482 00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:23.360 I still believe we're not gonna do that tonight. Yes, 483 00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:26.360 that goofy song in the chat, But tonight we're gonna 484 00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:29.760 be talking about to my control classics ones that I've 485 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:31.440 been waiting to get to for a long time. And 486 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:37.199 there's nobody better to get to with than Tristan the 487 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:41.400 Hannibal Lecter of the Carnosphere. Uh, and we're gonna be 488 00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:44.719 talking about Total Recall and Jacob's Ladder, So I think 489 00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.719 it would be fun to start with Do you want 490 00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:49.920 to start with the goofy or the serious? 491 00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:52.760 I'd rather I think I'd rather start with the serious 492 00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.719 than get into the goofy after because I and I've 493 00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:58.480 most recently watched it. Just watched Jacob's Ladder today and 494 00:41:58.559 --> 00:41:59.679 it's the first time with that scrip. 495 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.159 Let me flip the script over to the heart. 496 00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:06.440 Flipping, we'd be script flipping, and I was. I was 497 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.280 pretty surprised at how much they put in that that 498 00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:12.760 Jacob's Lack film. There's a lot revealed there, a lot 499 00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:16.760 of real stuff. It seems like the director was rather 500 00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:19.519 close to the material and uh and really cared. 501 00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.119 Well. This is so. I first saw this movie back 502 00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:26.159 when it came out around well, not when it came out, 503 00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:29.360 maybe around high school time. And uh, it was one 504 00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:33.519 of my introductions to m kiltra that and conspiracy theory 505 00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:36.199 with Mel Gibson. So, by the way, we're going to 506 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:41.159 be doing more spooktober scary streams this week, including serial Killers, 507 00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:46.320 Antichrist movies, Uh, Mike ConTroll more my control movies because 508 00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:48.559 there's a ton of Minkel. There's like thirty Mike control movies. 509 00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:52.599 We'll do them all. But oh, one last weird point, 510 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:57.800 UH shout out to uh the super fan. We'll call 511 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:02.199 him Simon. And so I've been getting lengthy emails from 512 00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:05.920 from a mega encyclopedic film buff, Simon. I don't know 513 00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.840 who Simon is, but he's sent me some really awesome, 514 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:14.840 in depth lists of movies that he uh thinks are 515 00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:19.039 really poignant in terms of conspiracy stuff, and they're real obscure. 516 00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.000 A lot of these are like seventies movies I've never 517 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.159 heard of, but uh, he really put in the time 518 00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.119 to make this huge list of recommended movies. So I 519 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:30.480 want to give Simon a shout out and let you know, Simon, 520 00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:34.880 whoever you are. Yes, we will comer, Comer, Coomer, we 521 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:40.880 will coomber. We will cover some of those movies. I'm 522 00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:43.199 busted as I'm a coomber now because I said comer. 523 00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:48.000 We will cover not Coomer, some of those movies in 524 00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:55.199 the next several weeks. It's October. But at one last 525 00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:59.480 weird point about whoever Simon is, I was looking up 526 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:03.000 these listed films and they just happened to be a 527 00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:08.840 famous director's favorite obscure films, quite a few of them. 528 00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:13.719 So is Simon a secret famous director? I mean it's 529 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.800 probably not, but I like to entertain in my head 530 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:19.880 that I'm getting fed, you know, movie recommendations from the 531 00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:23.000 top of Hollywood in terms of classic directors. I won't 532 00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:27.679 say who, but we'll we'll let it simmer as if 533 00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:34.440 that's the case. Maybe anyway, for sure, So somebody already dead, Yes, 534 00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.599 he's Kuber's not really dead. He's in hiding and he's 535 00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:39.400 he's going by the name of Simon. 536 00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:42.559 And he's his consciousness was uploaded into the cloud and 537 00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:46.639 that's what's contacting. The AI has become so advanced, the 538 00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:47.920 Kubrick is speaking through it. 539 00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:51.719 One thing that was neat about this that I do 540 00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:53.679 want to touch on. I'll let you kick it off 541 00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:56.239 on Jacob's ladder what you want to mention first. But 542 00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:00.880 I did not realize until this last view all of 543 00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:05.079 the literary and book references. So there's all of it. 544 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:06.559 Yeah, all of that right. 545 00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:09.159 The beginnings pop up throughout the movie and they give 546 00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:12.119 you a big clue into what it's about. But I'll 547 00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:14.199 let you kick it off here. It's getting too dark 548 00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:15.840 in here. Look like a creeper in here in this 549 00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:18.960 dark room. I have to put some lights on. 550 00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:24.440 Yeah, man, I think Well, you mentioned literary illusions. One 551 00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:26.519 of the one of the first books that you see 552 00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:33.800 in it is he's reading He's reading The Stranger, yes, Albert, 553 00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:42.519 which is one of the most It's very postmodern The Stranger, 554 00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:46.920 you know, it's kind of an exploration of nihilism and 555 00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:51.480 postmodern bullshit existentialism and kind of like a tome on, 556 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:54.480 well why not just kill your damn self? I mean, 557 00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:58.719 that's basically the theme of The Stranger is, well, you 558 00:45:58.800 --> 00:45:59.920 might as well just kill yourself. 559 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:01.960 Yes, So it's an artistic. 560 00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:03.440 Way, of course, because that's super artsy. 561 00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:10.280 Well, it's an immediate, foreboding kind of image that lets 562 00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:12.199 us know where the movie is going to go, right, 563 00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:16.159 So we're already being told from the outset. You know, 564 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:19.119 this is about death and suicide. So something's going on 565 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.400 here with life and death. That's what the movie is about. 566 00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:26.440 And we don't know if we did he commit suicide? 567 00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:29.400 Is he dead? It's that it's not really about that yet, 568 00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.559 but it's just kind of giving you the the ominous 569 00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:36.000 impression that the movie is going to be about death. 570 00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:37.400 And by the way, I was looking up some of 571 00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:44.719 Adrian Lynn's other famous films. He's done a couple of 572 00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:51.039 those kind of crappy erotic dramas like Indecent Proposal, fatal 573 00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:53.679 Attraction type stuff, which Fail Attraction I think is kind 574 00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:56.000 of a famous movie. I'm not really into that kind 575 00:46:56.000 --> 00:47:01.800 of stuff. But he did this version to so Kubrick's Lolita, 576 00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.280 and then he did the Flashdance, which is an odd one, 577 00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:13.760 and Jacob's Ladder. So not a whole lot of esoteric 578 00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:17.239 precedent for Adrian Lynn films, but we do have over 579 00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:19.519 four hundred nerds tonight. Welcome everybody. You can support the 580 00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.719 show with super chests. But so nineteen ninety, this was 581 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.519 a weird time in movies. We're getting towards the end 582 00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:32.800 of the eighties and the onset of the action hero, right, 583 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:35.800 so this is when action hero movies are really going 584 00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:36.360 to kick. 585 00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:40.960 In nineteen ninety and both of these movies were nineteen ninety. 586 00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:44.079 Yeah, this was a weird year for movies. I mean, 587 00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.760 it's funny to watch Total Recall, by the way, and 588 00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:49.280 think about that being the big summer blockbuster. I don't know, 589 00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:53.599 I crack up, Like I think Total Recalls hilarious. Every 590 00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:54.280 time I watch it. 591 00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:56.239 I laugh more so funny. 592 00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:58.719 And to think that this was like the big summer 593 00:47:58.800 --> 00:47:59.760 blockbuster movie. 594 00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:02.519 Do you think people were laughing in the theater like. 595 00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:06.360 Now, No, I think people looked at it like it was, 596 00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:08.760 you know, an action blockbuster, right, so it was like, 597 00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:13.159 you know, whoa dude, Arnold kicking butt, you know that 598 00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:18.000 kind of a thing. Because scene, Yeah. 599 00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:20.440 I thought it was really interesting. The opening scene, it's 600 00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:23.480 kind of, uh, you have these these helicopters coming in 601 00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:27.000 and they're they're carting in. You can't really tell what 602 00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:29.599 it is that they're carrying. There's something that they're hanging below, 603 00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.639 and it's kind of this visual symbol of the fall 604 00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:35.400 almost right. I mean you have you have these helicopters 605 00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:38.559 coming down from the sky and then they're flying over 606 00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:41.519 this lake or you know, a body of water. You 607 00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:45.320 can see the reflection, and the reflection is a really 608 00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:48.800 big Windows are very big motif in this in the film. 609 00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:53.840 Reflections and windows and which is similar to the Total 610 00:48:53.920 --> 00:49:00.119 recall a lot of multi dimensional aspects to it. The 611 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:03.719 question of whether or not this is a real reality Yeah, 612 00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:05.400 exactly like that matrix type. 613 00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:09.320 Yeah, mirrors are mirrors are often associated with the psyche, 614 00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:12.159 So definitely gonna be relevant in both these movies. And 615 00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:15.760 I'll so I like the setting as Vietnam because if 616 00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:22.519 you remember the the Douglas Valentine book about the Phoenix Program, 617 00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:25.960 we think that, you know, perhaps there's something related to 618 00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:28.599 Phoenix program here and that will actually come up later. 619 00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:30.960 Now they don't mention dougas Valentine's book, but they do 620 00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:35.559 intimate and hint at it being the Phoenix Program, and 621 00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:36.320 not just that. 622 00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:39.280 It's a crazy scene. Like the first scene is nuts. 623 00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:42.480 I mean, there's these soldiers, they're hanging out, they're joking 624 00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:45.079 with each other, ra can lose jokes, and then all 625 00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:48.519 of a sudden they're engaged in a battle to get ambushed. 626 00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:51.280 But there's something else that happens. There seems to be 627 00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:55.360 some sort of like almost like an electromagnetic weapon type 628 00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:58.840 you think here, and they all start crying out. 629 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:04.719 Later and they go into this kind of like disturbia, 630 00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:08.920 you know, kind of agitated, almost a possessed type of state, 631 00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:12.400 and we later find out that there was an experimental 632 00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:16.639 drug used called the Ladder. So Jacob's Ladder is actually 633 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.239 a name for this experimental drug that the chemist will 634 00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.880 later say sends you straight down the ladder to the 635 00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:26.360 bottom pits of hell, namely the deepest parts of the psyche, 636 00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:31.199 where the most primal drives are rape, just pure rage 637 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:36.079 and sort of demonic fervor. And that's why we would say, Okay, 638 00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:38.159 so this does fit into the Phoenix program, because the 639 00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:40.800 whole purpose of the Phoenix program, the real thing, was 640 00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:47.360 to create literal, sociopathic psycho serial killers, and they use 641 00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:50.519 Vietnam as this test bed to terrorize Via Kong. And 642 00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:53.280 then this is dreamt up by the Cia William Colby, 643 00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:56.719 I think, in the Valentine book. And then the you know, 644 00:50:56.840 --> 00:50:59.320 Dave mcgallan's thesis is that some of these guys may 645 00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:02.159 have come back to the US, and that's where we 646 00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:04.559 get some of these serial killers, is that they were 647 00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:09.719 perhaps involved in these kinds of programs anyway. But yeah, 648 00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:12.519 so we're watching Tim Robbins kind of meander about New 649 00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.199 York and go about his day and he's having these flashbacks, right, 650 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.079 so we know that it's to do with drugs, and 651 00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:21.159 like Tristan said, he flashes back to this what we 652 00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:23.519 think is a traumatic experience that maybe in the past 653 00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:26.800 when he's you know, in Vietnam, and now it's you know, 654 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.280 early mid eighties or sometime. It looks kind of eighties. 655 00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:32.400 I don't I guess it's supposed to be nineteen ninety, 656 00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:35.159 but they don't really sell say the date. It's just 657 00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:39.800 after his Vietnam period. But the first thing he sees 658 00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:43.280 after you see the Camu book is he looks on 659 00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:46.599 the wall and the subway and he's stuck in the 660 00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:49.079 Simpty subway and he tries to walk up a different 661 00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.559 exit and it's boarded up. He can't get out, so 662 00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.320 he's stuck in the underworld. And he looks over at 663 00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:58.440 this billboard and it says welcome to Hell, or you're 664 00:51:58.480 --> 00:51:59.880 in Hell, or New York as Hell. 665 00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:03.400 It's just as hell. He in something about drugs after 666 00:52:03.559 --> 00:52:06.679 a fire, and we'll see if I can find the 667 00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:14.039 hell here it is. I can't try hell. That's what 668 00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:16.800 life can be doing drugs. But it doesn't have to 669 00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:19.280 be that way. Help is available day or night. 670 00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:22.760 Drug So the drug reference makes it even more relevant 671 00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:26.599 because he's struggling with these these flashbacks. Because of this, 672 00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:30.599 we think this terrible you know, component, and then he 673 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:33.639 sees these hobo demons. He sees a hobo demon with 674 00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:36.280 a tail. By the way, hobo demons comes up a lot, 675 00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:39.000 and you know, John Carpenter, David Lynch. 676 00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:41.159 Yeah, we just talking about that. One of the other stream. 677 00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:46.159 He sees the train passengers as demons, remember this. He 678 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:48.760 looks and he sees like demons and demonic faces in 679 00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.599 the in the train car that goes and they. 680 00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:53.000 Just kind of stare at him, right, they just kind 681 00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:56.519 of everything seems to be glaring at him and reflecting 682 00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:58.920 back in him. But then he keeps, he keeps switching up. 683 00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:01.400 He's he's super disorient He can't tell whether he's in 684 00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:03.480 a dream or reality, can't tell whether he's living in 685 00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:06.360 a flashback or living in the present time. And he's 686 00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:08.000 lost in time exactly. 687 00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:11.199 He's starting to dissociate and lose track of when. 688 00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:13.639 And where he is right and a lot of the 689 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:17.400 dissociation is happening surrounding the relationship that he has with 690 00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:21.960 this woman, Jezebel, her jez But they have this interesting 691 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.239 conversation about these biblical names. What do you think about 692 00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:25.639 that scene? 693 00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:29.880 Well, the movie is gonna be full of these biblical references. 694 00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:31.679 So I'm glad you mentioned that, because you know his 695 00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:35.679 name is Jacob, she's Jezebel. He makes a joke about 696 00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:38.920 Jezebel and kind of that she appears to be the 697 00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:43.599 evil woman who broke up or is somehow involved in 698 00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:47.079 this marriage split, right, because he's got an ex wife 699 00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:49.920 that we find out about. And then Tim Robbins has 700 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:55.679 this picture of who Macaulay Culkin ironically, and he's lost 701 00:53:55.719 --> 00:53:58.119 his son, right, so we know he's been traumatized by 702 00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.280 both Vietnam and the loss of his on. So we 703 00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:03.119 know we're dealing with a guy who's going to damage 704 00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:04.320 traumatized psyche. 705 00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:05.280 Uh. 706 00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:07.480 And then we find out that this one, this woman 707 00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:11.239 that's in his life, this girlfriend is you know, intentionally 708 00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:14.519 referred to as Jezebel, as this evil figure, so she's 709 00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.920 got something to do with what's going on here. And 710 00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:21.119 he starts having these kind of weird freakouts that she's 711 00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:24.360 a demon or demonic, and it's almost like the names 712 00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:26.480 in the movie are going to start giving you clues 713 00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:27.679 to good guys bad guys. 714 00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:30.639 Yeah, there's even a scene where they're at that party 715 00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:35.000 and he's drinking and he seems to go into a 716 00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.119 kind of a flashback that might have been triggered by 717 00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.519 the lights. So there's the strobing lights. 718 00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:45.280 And the strobing that that's what triggered him, you know, Yeah, so. 719 00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:49.800 The lights triggered him. So this this idea of multiple 720 00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:52.639 personality disorder, associated identity disorder, what do you want, whatever 721 00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:55.199 you want to call it, that was studied intensely during 722 00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:57.119 the m KL TRA days. You know, you and Cameron 723 00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:02.360 uh and his psychic driving experiments, monarch Inca. 724 00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:04.920 Search and Cay Delta. Yeah, they're all dealing without you. 725 00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:09.880 Yeah, So and then he sees these demons copulating kind 726 00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:14.360 of like a similar to My Fear and Loathing in 727 00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:17.400 Las Vegas or Hunter Thompson's visions of you know, just 728 00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:20.159 lizards humping each other's his like tails going around his 729 00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:22.719 girlfriend's legs and stuff. And it's kind of a raunchy 730 00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:26.639 demonic sex scene there. And he's just he's haunted by this, 731 00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:28.559 and he keeps switching back and forth between his old 732 00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:31.840 family but he was that he had during the Vietnam 733 00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:34.239 War or before he went to Vietnam, and then this 734 00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:41.159 new girlfriend. But he's he's so fractured and confused, and 735 00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:43.119 it seems like he's searching for something when he's trying 736 00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:45.639 to figure out what's going on, but he's just lost 737 00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:45.840 in it. 738 00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:48.239 Yeah, you hit it right there. So he's going to 739 00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:51.119 be on a journey, a soul journey. This is not 740 00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:55.000 going to be a journey that is temporal from beginning 741 00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:59.159 to end. It's a cyclical, archetypal journey of the soul 742 00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:04.880 through different experiences that are intended to cure and purge him. 743 00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:07.679 So we'll get to that here in a little bit. 744 00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:11.639 But the first what you mentioned is he sees an incubus. 745 00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:14.639 He sees which is a demon that sleeps with a woman, 746 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:22.199 essentially controlling copulating with his girlfriend, Jezebel, And this is 747 00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:24.239 where he starts to think something's off, something is wrong. 748 00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:28.960 There are apparently demonic forces in his life that are 749 00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:33.920 causing and triggering and relating to these traumas. So he's 750 00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:39.039 seemingly beginning then to start question things, questioning spiritual things. 751 00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:42.639 And this is where we start noticing more interesting books 752 00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:46.719 popping up. The really weirdest of all, which I never 753 00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:51.119 noticed until this last viewing, was he has right by 754 00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:54.639 his bed the stack of books, one of which is 755 00:56:54.719 --> 00:57:03.960 a Crollian type of a magical text relating to planetary 756 00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:07.960 ritual magic. And it's called the Magical Philosophy Sword and Serpent, 757 00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:11.840 And this is a book about Kabbalistic philosophy relating to 758 00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:16.559 planets and the psyche and ritual magic. So oddly enough 759 00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:18.519 he's got that book. Right next to it is a 760 00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:22.159 book called The Savage God on a study of suicide 761 00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:26.360 in another book called Social Evolution. So right away we're 762 00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:28.239 getting a clue that this movie is going to be 763 00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:32.559 about the esoteric journey of the soul after death. This 764 00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.519 is very common in Gnostic traditions. And as I mentioned 765 00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:38.719 to you many times, Tristan, and actually this movie made 766 00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:43.320 me buy the book. I've just ordered Timothy Leary's commentary 767 00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:45.679 on the Tibetan Book of the Dead, which is where 768 00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:51.440 he describes the LSD trip as the Tibetan journey of 769 00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:54.280 the soul. It's the same experience, he thinks, and that's 770 00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:54.719 the key. 771 00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:58.039 To this movie now, in this film actually has a 772 00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:01.840 lot of similarities. I mean, at least journey has similarities 773 00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:07.400 to the film Enter the Void. Yeah, but that very 774 00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:09.159 hard to watch. I don't know if i'd recommend it. 775 00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:12.000 It's the cinematography is pretty crazy on that film. The 776 00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:14.280 lighting is great. The guy the guy who did the 777 00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:17.559 cinematography is the guy who did Spring Breakers. So it's 778 00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:22.840 got that like that really candy style, pastel style, bright 779 00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:26.559 neon stuff. I think I would recommend it, but it's 780 00:58:26.679 --> 00:58:29.480 very difficult to watch. It is disturbing as heck Entwer 781 00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:32.079 the Void, but it's a similar journey that he goes on, 782 00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:37.159 except this seems to be more kind of like Masonic 783 00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:41.199 and Catholic rather than Eastern. Right, it seems to be 784 00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:44.519 more the idea of purgatory is being excorrected. 785 00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:48.760 And now he will even come up because yeah, he 786 00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:51.800 as he's reading through all these texts trying to figure 787 00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:55.000 out what's going on, he actually reads Dante's Pergoccio correct. 788 00:58:57.039 --> 00:58:59.239 And then there's that other book he's got about witchcraft 789 00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:01.320 sitting on the on the table as well, right, it's 790 00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:01.960 like the Witches. 791 00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:04.480 Oh yes he does, he has a h and I'll 792 00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:06.679 look that book up too, And that is a book 793 00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:12.679 dealing with to husband and wife wickan couple called the 794 00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:16.599 Witch's Bible, The Sabots of Rights, sabots and rights of birth, 795 00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:20.119 death and marriage. And then he's got a book on demonology, 796 00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:22.280 and then he's got a book called Roots of Evil, 797 00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:25.079 and then he's reading through Pregassio. So all those books 798 00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:28.639 are clues telling us what it's going on in this film. 799 00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:33.880 And the funny now that this film actually does have 800 00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:36.920 similarities to spring Breakers as well, which is another one 801 00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:38.440 we covered. I think we did that on my channel. 802 00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:47.119 This like the weird, the strange, disjointed narrative, the dreamscape 803 00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:49.280 type narrative. I think that spring Breakers actually does have 804 00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:51.119 a lot of similarities to this as well, especially if 805 00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:52.519 you get to the end of spring Breakers and you 806 00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:55.559 realize what was really happening, what these little girls really are. 807 00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:01.039 They're literal demons in the film. Yes, so yeah, I 808 01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:03.280 didn't even think of that. Somebody mentioned spring Breakers in there, 809 01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:05.400 spraying break Forever. 810 01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:08.000 The basically riff raff character. 811 01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:12.000 Look at all my ship. I got scar Face on repeat, 812 01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:15.840 I got, I got, I got. 813 01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:19.760 If you guys like the streams that Tristan and I do, 814 01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:22.239 be sure to go back and watch our backlog. We've 815 01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:24.920 done like ten shows now, so we've got. 816 01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:26.960 Have to start our own. Like just Jay Interest in 817 01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:29.960 stream channel, we do. Half our episodes are with each other. 818 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:33.559 Maybe maybe we should do a weekly thing like regular. 819 01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:37.400 Yeah. I get a lot of great feedback from me 820 01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:39.679 and you, mainly me, but it's a little bit of you. 821 01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:40.519 But that's okay. 822 01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:42.880 I get mostly feedback about me. People say, well, then 823 01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:46.400 I even. 824 01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:51.440 Except that it's not even because I'm better, But that's fine. Gabriel, 825 01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:55.800 let's talk about Gabriel, because Gabriel is his chiropractor who 826 01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:59.440 fixes his things that are out of aligne now, alignment. 827 01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:02.360 This is chakra type stuff, right, So so when he's 828 01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:07.760 aligning Tim Robbinson's chakra, it's like opening up these trigger points, 829 01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:13.800 these trigger moments and the fixing of the spine. I mean, 830 01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:16.719 it has that Eastern chakra reference, but it also has 831 01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:21.079 a reference to Gabriel being this kind of guardian angel figure. 832 01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:25.119 He's basically he says, if anybody told you you're you're 833 01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:27.679 like an angel, like an angel, and he says to him, yes, 834 01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:29.360 all the time, you tell me that all the time, 835 01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:30.039 something like that. 836 01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:34.039 So guardian Angel appears to him in the form of yeah, 837 01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:36.960 this kind of character that that was a guy that 838 01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.960 he you know, confided in, looked up to a healing 839 01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:42.360 agent in his life. His chiropractor. 840 01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:46.760 But then he also gets triggered into a flashback when 841 01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:50.280 he when he cracks his neck throws him into another spiral. 842 01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:54.119 And the reason for that is that what we later 843 01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:58.280 find out is that Gabriel is telling him that, like, 844 01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:02.920 I need to fix and purge these areas of your life, 845 01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:06.800 because he says, you're attached and if you have these 846 01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:11.039 attachments when you die, it's going to torment you. And 847 01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:14.760 so you need to be purged of these attachments so 848 01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:18.039 that you can move on and not be tormented. And 849 01:02:18.119 --> 01:02:21.360 so he says this really interesting phrase that the the 850 01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:25.159 demons that are tormenting you are actually for your good 851 01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:28.679 because they're doing this in the long run to purge 852 01:02:28.719 --> 01:02:30.840 you from these attachments. And of course we find out 853 01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:35.159 that his attachment is well, he has many attachments, but 854 01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:36.840 the main one is that he won't let go of 855 01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:37.679 the death of his son. 856 01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:44.360 Well, he says, it's kind of a relativistic philosophy that 857 01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:48.840 he that he portrays too of almost like, oh, everything 858 01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:51.599 is one kind of thing of you. It's just what 859 01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:53.360 did he say? I think he says, it's all on 860 01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:55.280 how you look at it, right, It's kind of like 861 01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:56.840 it's all just like how you look at it. It 862 01:02:56.920 --> 01:02:59.559 could be angels, it could be demons. It's all just 863 01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:01.599 a matter of perspective. 864 01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:04.880 Man, that's true. Unfortunately, the film does kind of air 865 01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:07.440 and fall over into the side of the far Eastern 866 01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:10.119 version of things. But I would recommend for those that 867 01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:13.519 are interested just to kind of tie in the Orthodox 868 01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:15.840 element to it, is that if you read Father seffrom 869 01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:18.639 Rose the book The Soul after Death, he will actually 870 01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:21.679 talk about there are some similarities with the Tibetan Book 871 01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:24.440 of the Dead and the Orthodox conception of what happens 872 01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:27.800 after death, and so he will cover this kind of 873 01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:30.519 how we conceive of that there is a journey of 874 01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:33.199 the soul after death and what's called the toll houses 875 01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:35.000 and this kind of stuff. So in a way you 876 01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:37.960 could understand this as a toll house film. I mean, obviously, 877 01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:41.559 again it's kind of paganized and it's not exactly our view. 878 01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:46.800 But the rough idea here is correct that there were 879 01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:52.679 some purgations that he needed to undergo in his afterlife experience. 880 01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:55.880 And his son, I don't think you mentioned this. The 881 01:03:55.920 --> 01:03:56.960 son is Macaulay. 882 01:03:56.639 --> 01:04:00.800 Culkin, that is weird, who even claims to have undergone 883 01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:03.480 like mind control. I mean, I'm not saying his clums 884 01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:03.840 are true. 885 01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:06.159 I don't know, but did he say that? I mean 886 01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:07.320 I saw, yeah, I mean, may have. 887 01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:09.119 Just been looking for attention. I don't know, but I 888 01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:09.920 think he's had. 889 01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:11.639 Holy Culchan got real weird the last couple of years. 890 01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:14.280 I don't know, if you've seen his his website, podcast 891 01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:18.199 and stuff. Yeah, yeah, lots of very very strange symbolism there. 892 01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:21.360 He was on Joe Rogan. It was odd to the least. 893 01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:24.119 Remember that he's been through some tough times, man. But yeah, 894 01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:25.840 I don't know. It's just something about McAuley culchan that 895 01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:28.599 is very sad, right seeing him as a little boy, 896 01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:32.920 it's it's really sad, like he just he looks to 897 01:04:33.039 --> 01:04:35.679 me like somebody who's dealing with a lot of pain 898 01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:37.639 at that young age. I think he might be five 899 01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:40.559 or six years old in the film here. Yeah, just 900 01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:42.480 looks like a really abuse little child. 901 01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:42.719 Man. 902 01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:44.400 And I can't I don't know. I got a son 903 01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:46.079 who's four years old right now. So it's hard to 904 01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:48.960 see that these little kids in Hollywood getting passed around 905 01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:51.719 in these films and stuff and hanging out with these creepers, 906 01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:54.599 and who knows what's going on on these sets. But 907 01:04:55.199 --> 01:04:57.280 especially when you have these monster films and ship like that, 908 01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:00.519 where there you have kids doing scenes that they're acting 909 01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:05.039 out and ritually involved in scenes that are are things 910 01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:07.400 that they should never be exposed to. And these actors, 911 01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:12.320 as young children child actors, are being exposed to sexuality, 912 01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:16.840 They're being exposed to hyper violence. It's even like these 913 01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:20.719 crazy animatronic monsters in the nineties and eighties films. These 914 01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:24.320 little kids are being traumatized on these sets. And yeah, 915 01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:26.199 I think I think that's something a lot of people 916 01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:28.519 don't think about when you watch these children in these films. 917 01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:30.639 I wondered about that too, Like what if I mean, 918 01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:35.840 we know that there's instances where films, film studios, production 919 01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:42.239 houses have been used as fronts, cover operations, cutouts, and 920 01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:46.519 then conceivably also for trafficking drug I mean, well they 921 01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:49.920 have been for good cover for trafficking drugs and then 922 01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:55.559 perhaps other things as well, Like you're mentioning, that's definitely bizarre. 923 01:05:55.840 --> 01:05:56.079 Parents. 924 01:05:56.199 --> 01:05:58.599 No parents in southern California know what they're doing when 925 01:05:58.599 --> 01:05:59.679 they bring their kid to Hollywood. 926 01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:02.199 I think that's a good point. Yeah, And some of 927 01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:03.599 those documentaries. 928 01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:06.960 About an empire. And I didn't grow up in La 929 01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:09.679 but San Diego on an inland empire. There's still, you know, 930 01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:13.159 kids who feed into that system and it's a it's 931 01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:15.719 a strange world. And the parents are the ones who 932 01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:16.440 are complicit. 933 01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:20.199 They're complicit. There's a one of those documentaries, the one 934 01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:23.239 that was about Hollywood that came out two years ago. 935 01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:27.840 You know what I'm talking about, THEO wanted from the 936 01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:31.800 Hollywood stuff that they suppressed. It came out two years ago. 937 01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:38.800 So so Spotlight is and that the one about Recallolic Church, 938 01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:42.519 and then there's the one about Oh yeah yeah. But 939 01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:44.800 in that one they raised that question that you're making 940 01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:49.239 about how it would appear that the parents are complicit 941 01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:51.800 as well. Absolutely, there's somebody in. 942 01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:56.400 The Iris's dad. That's a weird situation, man, Philly Ray Cyrus, 943 01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:58.400 And I mean, I don't know. Maybe he was just 944 01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:00.480 a country bumpkin and he didn't know what his daughter 945 01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:03.079 was getting into. Did you watch the did you watch 946 01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:05.239 the Miley Cyrus Joe Rogan conversation. 947 01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:09.519 I saw about ten or twenty minutes of yeah, where 948 01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:11.320 she was talking about the diet stuff. I watched that 949 01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:11.800 whole clip. 950 01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:14.960 Yeah, Okay, yeah, there's the I don't know, it's an 951 01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:18.039 interesting glimpse into you know, a Hollywood child actor. 952 01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:19.639 And I watched you cover it as well. 953 01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:22.519 Yeah, yeah, it's just her voice, man, the chick's voice. 954 01:07:22.639 --> 01:07:25.880 Guys in the chat, what's that documentary a couple of 955 01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:27.960 years ago on Hollywood. 956 01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:29.920 And Creepers, Open Secret? There's open that's it? 957 01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:33.000 Thank you? So yeah, checked that one out, but. 958 01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:38.360 So in a few scenes. But it is very It's 959 01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:41.039 striking just seeing his face, little bags under his eyes, 960 01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:44.360 a pale, blondhaired boys. Just I don't know, it just 961 01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:47.239 looks like he's about to cry. It looked it didn't 962 01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:48.360 seem like exactly. 963 01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:57.000 The the movie. One reason for the similarity to the 964 01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:01.159 LSD trip is could be argued. 965 01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:06.800 That this, Yeah, Rick Strassman tried to claim that and 966 01:08:07.079 --> 01:08:09.360 was never able to prove it. It's a conjectured was 967 01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:11.119 never able to prove that. But we do know that 968 01:08:11.159 --> 01:08:14.079 the body makes d MT, but we don't know how 969 01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:16.600 it metabolizes it. We don't know much about it, and 970 01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:19.640 they postulated that it was the pineal gland that was 971 01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:22.119 producing it. They never proved it, and the book was 972 01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:23.840 written by maybe we should do an episode on this 973 01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:26.800 but the book by Rick Strassman DMT, the Spirit Molecule. 974 01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.319 If you look at the inside jacket cover, it was 975 01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:34.479 the research was sponsored by a little known organization that 976 01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:37.199 maybe some of you have heard of, called the Scottish Rite. 977 01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:43.199 Yeah, oh no, I didn't know that. Wow, okay they 978 01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:46.640 wanted to do. Let's do. I'll tell you what I'm 979 01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:49.359 going to do. I'm gonna get that. I got that 980 01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:51.319 Tim Larry book coming on, the Tibetan Book of the 981 01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:53.880 Dead and LSD, and then I'll read that and then 982 01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:55.720 we'll cover that Spirit Molecule thing. 983 01:08:55.800 --> 01:08:57.159 Sweet man. I'll try to get a copy of that 984 01:08:57.159 --> 01:08:59.479 book too. I'll see if I can't find a PDF 985 01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:01.640 of it. If anybody out there has a pdf of 986 01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:03.960 I'm sure it's online, I'll be able to find it. Right. 987 01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:04.960 Yeah, it's famous book. 988 01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:10.840 But we should do that book. And what's another psychonaut sir? 989 01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:18.840 Another sucking book? Well, I have not actually read any 990 01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:21.079 Tim Learry, so I mean, other than the essay and 991 01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:24.079 the couple of books that I've got a couple. 992 01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:27.359 Of Tim Leary, we could read that book and then 993 01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:29.600 we can look at a few video clips or something too, 994 01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:30.600 or like, oh, I. 995 01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:32.039 Know what we need to do, Dude, I know that 996 01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:35.880 the Psycho not Book. Do either of Robert Anton Wilson's 997 01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:38.279 books Lu super Rising or that other one. 998 01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:41.479 Yeah, I've read that he's got pictures in his books too, 999 01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:45.279 so my low IQ can read them. I'll be able 1000 01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:45.760 to read them. 1001 01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:50.479 Maybe we can find a picture book version of Just 1002 01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:52.079 a little bit of a reminder. I'm going to be 1003 01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:58.039 live at the Tampa Bay Screams Horror Convention. This is 1004 01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:03.520 a decent sized convention with a rowdy troop of rascally 1005 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:07.520 b movie actors and others who will be there as well. 1006 01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:10.840 I will be giving a lecture that evening, a dinner 1007 01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:13.239 lecture that is separate from the convention, but we will 1008 01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:16.680 also be at the convention and I will be presenting 1009 01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:21.600 the Dark Secrets of Horror Films presentation. So join me 1010 01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:24.640 tonight that night. Excuse me, January nineteenth, in Tampa Bay. 1011 01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:29.119 Get your tickets below this audio. In the show description, 1012 01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:30.960 you'll see the links to head on over to the 1013 01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.560 checkout and it's going to be a lot of fun. 1014 01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:37.119 The first thirty people, i think it's almost full, already 1015 01:10:37.199 --> 01:10:41.960 have their free copy of Esoter Hollywood reserved for them 1016 01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:45.119 and of course they'll be signed copies and other things 1017 01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:48.039 like that as well the other books. So get your 1018 01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:52.880 tickets now January nineteenth, that's eleven days the Tampa Bay 1019 01:10:52.960 --> 01:11:03.840 Screams Horror Convention. The entire book for you. 1020 01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:07.079 That'd be really nice. You could just summarize it for me. 1021 01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:09.960 That's what I did for a living trist in the 1022 01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:12.640 summarized books for people, so I could do that fan too. 1023 01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:15.760 I really love I love the tone that you you 1024 01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:17.399 speak to me and when you when you tell me 1025 01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:19.880 that it makes me feel like a big Welcome everybody. 1026 01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:22.399 We got four hundred and thirty five nerds in the 1027 01:11:22.520 --> 01:11:24.640 live chat tonight. We got a few super chats. I'll 1028 01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:26.640 cover those in a minute. Thank you for those super chests. 1029 01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:29.960 Please support the stream by the super the super labs, 1030 01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:33.640 the stream labs link that our friends keep incessantly posting 1031 01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:36.520 in the chat. We gotta, we gotta and come over. 1032 01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:38.199 To my channel when I stream too. Man, we're getting 1033 01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:38.800 like two hundred. 1034 01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:42.239 By the way, to trist I share your stuff on 1035 01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:47.199 Twitter and everywhere, and the Alga. The Algo is not 1036 01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:50.399 being nice to Tristan, by the way, it's not being 1037 01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:51.359 nice to make don't. 1038 01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:53.760 Blame the Algo people just don't like my ship. Come on, no, 1039 01:11:56.079 --> 01:11:57.680 I know that there's I know that there's like at 1040 01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:00.279 least a couple of billion people watching my streams. I 1041 01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:04.439 know the numbers are big. They're trying to suppress. There's 1042 01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:06.680 pretty much half the population of the world too. He's 1043 01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:10.000 under them. The trimalge Health screams to talk about these 1044 01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:13.239 degenerate things we see spreading thular culture. 1045 01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:17.279 The one thing about here's the thing I didn't understand 1046 01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:19.680 about the movie. Maybe you could enlighten me on this one. 1047 01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:23.039 So he meets up with that guy with the creepy, 1048 01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:27.880 chunky dude. He's like, hey, remember me, I'm Paul your 1049 01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:32.159 you know company buddy war buddy guy. By the way, 1050 01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:34.279 I'm going to hell. The demons are after me. So 1051 01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:35.880 he's like, come meet me at a bar. I'm going 1052 01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:39.000 to Hell. And then we start to think, Okay, maybe 1053 01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:43.000 Jacob is on his dissent. You know, he's kind of 1054 01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:46.319 going deeper and deeper into hades and that the dude 1055 01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:47.840 that he meets up with is like, Hey, I've been 1056 01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:50.199 looking into Christianity, but it doesn't seem to help me. 1057 01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:53.680 You know, I've got this necklace and I've got a bible, 1058 01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:56.199 but it's not helping me. And then he walks outside 1059 01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:59.239 and his car blows up. I don't understand. And then 1060 01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:02.479 you know Jacob is trigger. He sees a quarter. He 1061 01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:04.319 tries to pick a quarter and that's what keeps him 1062 01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:07.079 from getting in the car. The quarter flies away and 1063 01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:09.680 the car blows up. I still don't understand this scene. 1064 01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:11.199 I think it has something to do with the nonlinear 1065 01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:14.079 thing that remember they talked about there was a character 1066 01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:17.399 that was mentioned earlier in the film who died because 1067 01:13:17.399 --> 01:13:20.079 his car exploded. I remember this. I think it was 1068 01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:24.000 within the first twenty minutes. And he asked him about character. 1069 01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:25.479 There's a character. 1070 01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:28.239 Oh, so they're killing people that are associated with the 1071 01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:30.920 company because they might talk about in Keld. 1072 01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:33.800 Yeah, I'm not sure if it was one of his 1073 01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:36.319 buddies or if it was a doctor. I think that No, 1074 01:13:36.399 --> 01:13:38.119 it's his doctor, right, wasn't in his doctor? Like he 1075 01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:39.560 went in and tried to find his doctor, and they said, 1076 01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:43.279 the guy tells me he's dead, you know, he's dead man, 1077 01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:47.079 And he's like, what happened is his car exploding? And 1078 01:13:47.159 --> 01:13:51.239 he's like what And he tries to go see the doctor. 1079 01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:53.319 And the nurse pulls off her hat and there's this 1080 01:13:53.560 --> 01:13:56.760 big like growth thing on the back of her head. Yeah, 1081 01:13:56.760 --> 01:13:59.239 and it looks like and then the doctor comes out. 1082 01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:01.520 He's like, what are you doing here? Hey, the doctor's 1083 01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:01.840 not here. 1084 01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:05.399 Yeah, he's angelot right. So she's a demon right or 1085 01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:05.960 or she. 1086 01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:08.680 Was, you know, had some sort of mk ultra mind 1087 01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:10.439 chip it or or both. 1088 01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:12.079 I think it's supposed to be a horn. So he's 1089 01:14:12.079 --> 01:14:14.359 seeing people with horns and tails. 1090 01:14:14.479 --> 01:14:18.119 And I thought it was a like a scar, like 1091 01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:20.880 a weird looked like a cancerous growth like this tumor 1092 01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:23.399 coming at her. Don't but I think it had something 1093 01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:25.359 to do with that, Like maybe it was a nonlinear 1094 01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:30.840 h representation of what happened there. And he was seeing 1095 01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:32.039 the doctor get blown up. 1096 01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:34.760 I see. And so then he then he starts thinking that. 1097 01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:38.199 He starts getting more paranoid because his buddies who are 1098 01:14:38.239 --> 01:14:41.840 going to sue the government for mk ultra abuse, and 1099 01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:44.359 they go to George. George Costanza is going to be 1100 01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:47.000 his lawyer, and he's like, you don't have a case. 1101 01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:49.039 You don't have you know, you don't got nothing, and 1102 01:14:49.199 --> 01:14:51.159 so he freaks out and then all of his buddies. 1103 01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:55.960 You know, they basically disown him and they don't have 1104 01:14:55.960 --> 01:14:57.640 anything to do with him. So now he's getting super 1105 01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:00.640 paranoid and he thinks, h you know, they're going to 1106 01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:02.800 kill me. And the lawyer says, I looked into you. 1107 01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:08.239 You were discharged for psychological issues after wargames in Thailand. 1108 01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:10.600 And he's like, no, that's a cover story. That's not 1109 01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:14.560 what happened to me. We were experimented on in Vietnam. 1110 01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:21.359 Yep, I would say what I think. One of my 1111 01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:24.399 favorite scenes is the revelation of what happened, like when 1112 01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:27.239 he's speaking to his friend, his old war buddy, the 1113 01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:31.079 hippie guy, and he starts to tell him his story 1114 01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:34.920 about how he was arrested for producing LSD. He went 1115 01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:38.399 to Rikers Island. Government approached him and told him, if 1116 01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:40.920 you go to Vietnam and you work for us, we'll 1117 01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:43.560 commute your sentence or we'll basically you won't have to 1118 01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:45.319 serve any time. We just need you to come and 1119 01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:48.920 work with us and do some of your chemistry. So 1120 01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:52.399 he went, and what happened was, he says, he was 1121 01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:55.920 involved in experiments trying to find the absolute worst, most 1122 01:15:56.039 --> 01:16:00.760 powerful psychotomimetic drugs that will break the psyche of the 1123 01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:03.279 user and put them in a state as you mentioned, 1124 01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:07.319 of absolute primal terror and fear, and that was the 1125 01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:11.199 latter was mentioned at that point. But this was I 1126 01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:15.239 mean full on kind of MK Ultra motif here when 1127 01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:19.399 he talks about this, especially the you know, the compartmentalization 1128 01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:23.880 of it, the getting compromised people, right, the using using 1129 01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:29.760 compromised criminals as intelligence assets. All of these tie in 1130 01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:33.840 and these are very important as far as espionage geopolitics 1131 01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:39.079 goes with blackmail and keeping people quiet, right, and you 1132 01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:41.680 want people who are compromised to be working under you 1133 01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:45.439 if you're doing experimentation like they were doing and that 1134 01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:48.199 they mentioned in this film. And yeah, so it was 1135 01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:51.800 basically this guy got got recruited to be an MK 1136 01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:58.479 ultra doctor and experiment on soldiers in Vietnam using her drugs. 1137 01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:03.560 And then we find out that this drug BZ, this 1138 01:17:03.720 --> 01:17:07.079 is an actual thing that was tested on the soldiers. 1139 01:17:07.640 --> 01:17:13.000 So the film is referencing a psycho psychoto mimetic chemical 1140 01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:18.600 weapon known as b Z, which is a psychoactive agent 1141 01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:22.319 that's supposed to cause this descent into the primal you know, 1142 01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:25.720 regions of the psyche or whatever. So now we get 1143 01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:28.920 the explanation of what the ladder is. And if you 1144 01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:31.680 don't know, of course, this is from Genesis when Jacob 1145 01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:35.319 is wrestling with the Angel of the Lord the Logos, 1146 01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:42.199 and he well, right before he wrestles, he sees this angel, 1147 01:17:42.439 --> 01:17:46.520 and he sees the ladder descending and ascending. He sees 1148 01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:49.359 angels descending and descending on this ladder. And then if 1149 01:17:49.399 --> 01:17:51.960 you read John one, Jesus says that I'm the latter 1150 01:17:52.479 --> 01:17:56.039 that was me that was wrestling with Jacob. And so 1151 01:17:56.159 --> 01:17:59.119 it's this means by which one goes from heaven to Earth. 1152 01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:02.199 Here it's kind of inverted, and it's the ladder that 1153 01:18:02.319 --> 01:18:05.359 will take you the other way down to Hades. If 1154 01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:09.319 you've seen the icon of Saint John Clemichus famous Orthodox icon, 1155 01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:13.800 you'll notice it's the ladder that's got people climbing the ladder, 1156 01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:16.079 and then the demons are trying to pull people off 1157 01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:20.039 of the ladder. So again it does touch on kind 1158 01:18:20.079 --> 01:18:26.279 of Orthodox thought and imagery here. But I'm glad Tristan 1159 01:18:26.319 --> 01:18:29.239 mentioned the mk lt stuff because of course this is 1160 01:18:29.960 --> 01:18:32.760 even though the film is not ultimately about Mkultra, it 1161 01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:36.560 is dealing with that and exposing that to a degree, 1162 01:18:36.760 --> 01:18:41.399 and particularly the probably the Phoenix program because we find 1163 01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:43.520 out that they dosed the soldier's food and then the 1164 01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:47.960 soldiers ended up going ape and basically cannibalized and went 1165 01:18:48.079 --> 01:18:51.439 nuts on each other. So they were going crazy. They 1166 01:18:51.479 --> 01:18:53.800 went and they just went into total like you know, 1167 01:18:54.159 --> 01:19:00.119 possessed mode, and that that Jewish hippie chemist guy, it's 1168 01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:02.640 pretty funny. He was cracking me up. He was like, like, 1169 01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:06.760 uh if if Seinfeld was a psycho not, It's like, yeah, 1170 01:19:07.079 --> 01:19:08.439 you know, we we we did what we could. You know, 1171 01:19:08.520 --> 01:19:11.439 we did what we came. What was I supposed to do? 1172 01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:13.199 You know, they they got me, you know, what are 1173 01:19:13.199 --> 01:19:16.720 they supposed to do? It's like Woody Allen mixed with uh, 1174 01:19:17.439 --> 01:19:20.239 I don't know, like a young, less weird looking wood 1175 01:19:22.279 --> 01:19:25.800 and then he yeah. So then they're stuck. Then we think, well, 1176 01:19:25.920 --> 01:19:29.039 is he stuck in hell? Because he goes through is 1177 01:19:29.079 --> 01:19:32.600 this where he has like his worst That was the 1178 01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:34.439 creepiest part of the movie is do you remember when 1179 01:19:34.479 --> 01:19:37.000 he was in like the deepest part of hell and 1180 01:19:37.119 --> 01:19:40.000 he's like on the the operating table. 1181 01:19:39.800 --> 01:19:44.079 And that creepy doctor is like and his girlfriend's there. 1182 01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:47.760 Yeah, friend is the doctor of the torture woman. He's like, 1183 01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:48.319 give me a. 1184 01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:52.000 Yeah, that was that was a very That was a 1185 01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:53.000 pretty disturbing scene. 1186 01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:53.159 Man. 1187 01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:55.119 That's one of the scenes when he's walking through the hospital, 1188 01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:58.479 when they're wheeling him through the hospital. The cinematogra cinematography 1189 01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:02.199 is really good. There's no like, I don't know, I 1190 01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:05.079 like these old films better, even total recall. 1191 01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:08.239 Man like yea, even Goofy nineties movies are better than 1192 01:20:08.279 --> 01:20:09.359 the ones to Die there's. 1193 01:20:09.239 --> 01:20:12.000 Better, Like, the visual effects are better in Goofy nineties movies. 1194 01:20:12.079 --> 01:20:15.600 John Carpenter's visual effects are better than stupid Avatar and 1195 01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:18.600 all this gay stuff with the I'm not a big 1196 01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:20.119 fan of the CGI that they've got lately. 1197 01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:24.039 No Illinois. But so before we finish with this, one 1198 01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:27.439 last point I wanted to make with Jacob's letter and 1199 01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:31.439 to ask you is so, Eventually, as you can imagine, 1200 01:20:31.439 --> 01:20:35.239 he does let loose his attachment to his dead son. 1201 01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:37.239 He overcomes all that, and then he kind of has 1202 01:20:37.319 --> 01:20:42.159 this experience of going home. He leaves the weird girlfriend 1203 01:20:42.359 --> 01:20:45.159 Jezebel woman, goes back presumably to what he thinks his home, 1204 01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:48.840 and this is really Then the staircase, which represents the 1205 01:20:49.039 --> 01:20:52.520 ladder to heaven. So he's ascended from the ladder in 1206 01:20:52.600 --> 01:20:54.800 the pits of hell, and now he's going back up 1207 01:20:54.840 --> 01:20:58.920 the ladder to heaven and he's he's basically saved. And 1208 01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:01.479 then we find out your last scene that all of 1209 01:21:01.560 --> 01:21:04.800 the movie was like the point of his death, so 1210 01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:08.479 his whole life and even perhaps had he made bad decisions, 1211 01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:10.680 Like he's even living out kind of what had happened, 1212 01:21:11.760 --> 01:21:16.319 bad decisions that he made, re experiencing them, and it's 1213 01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:19.720 the soul being then purified to move on to the 1214 01:21:19.800 --> 01:21:20.279 next state. 1215 01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:24.319 Yeah, yeah, I think the I don't know's it's not 1216 01:21:24.399 --> 01:21:26.439 like it's an uplifting film when you when you hear you, 1217 01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:27.920 when you hear you say it, it's kind of like, 1218 01:21:27.960 --> 01:21:30.079 oh that's kind of nice. Doesn't feel like that when 1219 01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:30.479 you watch it. 1220 01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:34.279 It's no, it's a very yeah, disturbedil it's a disturbing. 1221 01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:37.319 Film, disturbing and bleak and dark film. And I mean, 1222 01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:38.880 what do you expect from Hollywood? 1223 01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:39.159 Right? 1224 01:21:39.239 --> 01:21:43.439 It's a There are some aspects of it that are redeeming. 1225 01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:44.920 The acting is really good. 1226 01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:45.840 It's a. 1227 01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:48.079 I wouldn't watch it. 1228 01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:50.560 I mean, setting aside the moral critiques of Hollywood. I 1229 01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:52.199 think it's a really well done movie. 1230 01:21:52.279 --> 01:21:55.000 It's I think it's great it would you watch it again? 1231 01:21:56.159 --> 01:21:58.640 I've watched it like ten times since it came out. Yeah, 1232 01:21:59.399 --> 01:22:01.239 it's one of always had just because I thought it 1233 01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:04.560 was a relevant movie. But it's not like I don't 1234 01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:07.920 like it's hard to watch. In any movie, that's hard 1235 01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:10.239 to watch even if I like it, like inl An Empire, 1236 01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:14.119 I'm not gonna watch it a lot, but maybe every 1237 01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:15.640 four or five it's one of those movies, and maybe 1238 01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:17.319 every four or five years I'll go back to it, 1239 01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:20.119 but not a lot. You want to move on to 1240 01:22:20.199 --> 01:22:25.520 total recall. By the way, it's worth noting that Jacob's 1241 01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:29.960 Ladder was a critical success but not a monetary success, 1242 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:31.800 So the movie was a little probably too dark and 1243 01:22:31.880 --> 01:22:34.680 weird for mass audience, as it broke even at the 1244 01:22:34.720 --> 01:22:38.000 box office, but it did get a lot of critical appraisal. 1245 01:22:41.039 --> 01:22:43.479 I enjoyed it. I don't think I would watch it 1246 01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:45.479 too many more times. There's just there's so many films 1247 01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:50.039 out there to watch it. I think i'd give it 1248 01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:55.319 two doses of BZ out of three doses of BZ. 1249 01:22:55.479 --> 01:23:00.039 I'm going to give it four Joe Rogan DMT hit. 1250 01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:03.960 Out of five nice, so slightly higher than I rated it. 1251 01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:06.920 A little higher. I do think it's good. I give 1252 01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:09.239 it like a seven out of ten. But that's to 1253 01:23:09.359 --> 01:23:11.439 translate that into normy speak for those of you that 1254 01:23:11.479 --> 01:23:16.840 aren't enlightened. Four DMT hits is equivalent to seven out 1255 01:23:16.880 --> 01:23:19.520 of ten. But you got to be kind of like 1256 01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:21.680 deep and philosophical. 1257 01:23:21.079 --> 01:23:24.680 To get that, which you have to have transcended your ego. 1258 01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:26.840 Yeah, which I don't know if you know about that yet, 1259 01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:28.079 But no, they don't. 1260 01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:31.239 They don't. They're just they're just, you know, they're down there. 1261 01:23:31.399 --> 01:23:34.680 We're are our egos really tiny? They have really big ones. 1262 01:23:36.319 --> 01:23:40.119 So once again, as you said, nineteen ninety and let's 1263 01:23:40.199 --> 01:23:43.319 see if this was as big of a blockbuster as 1264 01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:44.800 I remembered or thought. 1265 01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:47.920 What was the budget on it? Because it actually it was. 1266 01:23:48.199 --> 01:23:51.760 This was a huge summer blockbuster. It costs fifty to 1267 01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:55.039 sixty million and made two hundred and sixty three million, 1268 01:23:55.119 --> 01:23:58.439 so in nineteen ninety money, that was a blockbuster for sure. 1269 01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:02.880 So we got Arnold. I love your your cover image. 1270 01:24:02.920 --> 01:24:05.239 You picked one of the best moments in the film there. 1271 01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:07.319 I love that I've always laughed at that. This is 1272 01:24:07.760 --> 01:24:12.399 p K D. So we know we're getting an interesting, gnostic, bizarre, 1273 01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:16.760 you know, esoteric tale with old p K D. 1274 01:24:16.920 --> 01:24:17.039 Here. 1275 01:24:18.880 --> 01:24:24.159 He never fails to deliver in that department, would you agree? Man? 1276 01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:28.239 Phil K. Dick. He's one of my favorite authors of 1277 01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:30.439 the seventy and one of my favorite sci fi authors. 1278 01:24:30.520 --> 01:24:35.039 I quite enjoy his books. He's not the most stylish writer. 1279 01:24:35.279 --> 01:24:38.000 He does decent dialogue and he builds his character as well, 1280 01:24:38.039 --> 01:24:40.880 but he does world building and idea building very well. 1281 01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:43.640 Can I get you to take over for a minute. 1282 01:24:43.640 --> 01:24:45.800 I have to go empty my Philip K if you 1283 01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:46.439 know what I mean. 1284 01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:49.079 Go drop a phil k A p k D in 1285 01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:49.920 the toilet right now. 1286 01:24:50.079 --> 01:24:53.520 No, just the liquid version there. I got to empty 1287 01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:54.720 the pk D. 1288 01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:03.039 Drop a PKD. All right. So Philip K. Dick, Philip K. Dick. 1289 01:25:03.039 --> 01:25:05.920 He's a fascinating character. When you look at the biography 1290 01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:08.920 of Philip K. Dick, he is somebody who was hanging 1291 01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:11.880 out with a lot of these Silicon Valley elite types 1292 01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:16.039 in the nineteen sixties and seventies in California, and he 1293 01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:20.159 was rightfully really freaked out by what he saw, by 1294 01:25:20.239 --> 01:25:26.159 what he learned Philip K. Dick had a fascinating conception 1295 01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:32.079 of reality and a very tragic conception of reality. A 1296 01:25:32.159 --> 01:25:35.319 lot of his books are about the loss of identity, 1297 01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:41.720 the loss of yourself, and the loss of your soul essentially. 1298 01:25:42.520 --> 01:25:43.960 So Philip K. Dick was one of the first people 1299 01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:50.760 to write about technocracy in a in kind of a 1300 01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:54.840 in a way where he ties in intelligence agencies. And 1301 01:25:56.199 --> 01:25:58.319 one of the good books by Philip K. Dick that 1302 01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:04.039 shows his is understanding of spionage to a certain extent, 1303 01:26:04.479 --> 01:26:07.520 social engineering and how drug culture was used as a 1304 01:26:07.560 --> 01:26:12.039 tool is the book called they made a film out 1305 01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:13.960 of it. And I was just talking about with Jay earlier, 1306 01:26:14.039 --> 01:26:19.880 but I'm forgetting the Scanner Darkly. No, No, not Kazan Kazann. 1307 01:26:19.960 --> 01:26:24.399 That's that's that's a different one. So anyway, Yes, Philip K. 1308 01:26:24.479 --> 01:26:27.239 Dick has a really interesting story as far as his 1309 01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:31.159 life story goes. He even believed that he was some 1310 01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:35.319 sort of a MK Ultra type victim at some times 1311 01:26:35.359 --> 01:26:37.399 in his life and believed that he was being experimented 1312 01:26:37.479 --> 01:26:39.079 on using psychotronic weapons. 1313 01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:43.479 Have you do you remember Waking Life? We should cover that, dude. 1314 01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:47.199 That's perfect for that would be perfect in the psychonaut 1315 01:26:47.279 --> 01:26:47.920 Stream or. 1316 01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:51.119 Let's do Waking Life and uh, we'll do Waking Life, 1317 01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:54.000 and the other one the Scanner Darkly because they're both 1318 01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:57.920 Philip K. Dick Ish and they're both by the same director, 1319 01:26:58.079 --> 01:27:02.119 Richard Linklater he's actually a pretty good director. 1320 01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:08.359 And mister Jones, mister al Jones is that. 1321 01:27:08.720 --> 01:27:10.720 Mister Jones and me. 1322 01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:17.760 Stoning through the body and a long my lamp. 1323 01:27:19.880 --> 01:27:20.840 She's looking at you. 1324 01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:23.439 Got to be somebody for me. 1325 01:27:24.159 --> 01:27:28.880 I want to be Bob deal mister cry, just a 1326 01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:32.239 little more funk here as the tears rolled down his 1327 01:27:32.439 --> 01:27:35.239 bald head, letters and cry. 1328 01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:41.680 And if the sun comes up tomorrow, let him cry. 1329 01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:45.560 So I haven't read I'm not sure what the book 1330 01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:47.800 that Total Recall is based on. I don't think it's 1331 01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:49.880 actually called Total Recall, but I think it's based on 1332 01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:51.560 a short story by Philip K. Dick He wrote a 1333 01:27:51.600 --> 01:27:54.479 lot of short stories and they're pretty easy, the quick reads. 1334 01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:55.000 Most of them. 1335 01:27:55.279 --> 01:27:58.319 I would suggest reading Do Android's Dream of Electric Sheet. 1336 01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:00.760 That's another good one. That's what Blade Runner is based on, 1337 01:28:01.279 --> 01:28:05.239 as well as The Man in the High Castle. That's another. 1338 01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:07.960 By the way, I just bought some of the books 1339 01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:10.560 I've read some of the short stories, which I really liked, 1340 01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:12.960 but I've been just kind of waiting to get to 1341 01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:17.399 some of his Have you read any of his novel novels. 1342 01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:21.239 Like, yeah, yeah, whatever, they're short, right, they're they're short novels. 1343 01:28:21.279 --> 01:28:23.960 So there's a do Androids dream. Electric Sheep is good. 1344 01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:28.640 The Penultimate Truth is basically THX eleven thirty eight. Everybody 1345 01:28:28.680 --> 01:28:31.079 lives in this underground society. They're so scared because they 1346 01:28:31.079 --> 01:28:32.960 think there was a nuclear holocaust in the world, so 1347 01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:36.399 big and scary upstairs, and everybody lives underground and they're 1348 01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:39.159 afraid of what's going on up there. But it's all 1349 01:28:39.239 --> 01:28:43.239 big syo. They're just being tricked and to live underground 1350 01:28:43.319 --> 01:28:45.680 and be afraid in this hyper sterile environment, and they 1351 01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:47.880 think they're all going to die if they go the elite. 1352 01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:51.239 The elite are using the Earth's surface, right, and they 1353 01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:53.399 live there. So it's similar to THX eleven thirty eight 1354 01:28:53.399 --> 01:28:57.560 in that way. I suggest reading his books. They're they're good. Vallas. 1355 01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:00.479 Later in life he got zonged out and it gets 1356 01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:02.880 a little bit weirder. That's the time of his life 1357 01:29:02.920 --> 01:29:04.800 when he thought he was being communicated with by an 1358 01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:10.479 artificial intelligence alien that was beaming satellite information to him 1359 01:29:10.479 --> 01:29:11.359 from space. 1360 01:29:11.079 --> 01:29:13.079 And it was really. 1361 01:29:14.479 --> 01:29:16.720 Freaky, weird mk ultra type stuff that he believed he 1362 01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:20.720 was being an experimented on. And he called himself horse 1363 01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:24.239 lover Fat Philip K. Dick. He was so poor most 1364 01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:27.720 of his life. He wrote pop sci fi and he 1365 01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:30.960 was poor, and he used the horse meat to keep 1366 01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:34.039 himself alive because it was cheaper, So he called himself 1367 01:29:34.079 --> 01:29:36.640 horse lover fat. He would be man this fake name, 1368 01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:38.960 and he would all his books are about himself and 1369 01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:41.119 his kind of loss of identity is search for love 1370 01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:43.079 is search for God essentially, and it's. 1371 01:29:42.960 --> 01:29:45.640 Some weird yeah, is it right that? So there's this 1372 01:29:45.800 --> 01:29:47.840 weird part in the link later or movie where the 1373 01:29:47.920 --> 01:29:52.039 guy is talking about Philip K. Dick and he mentions 1374 01:29:52.119 --> 01:29:54.159 that he thinks that in the middle of the Book 1375 01:29:54.199 --> 01:29:56.840 of Acts, like something messed up and we're all stuck 1376 01:29:57.840 --> 01:29:59.239 halfway through the Book of Acts. 1377 01:30:00.840 --> 01:30:05.640 Yeah, he came up with weird theories like this that 1378 01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:09.640 he would pause it at times and maybe let's let's 1379 01:30:09.680 --> 01:30:11.039 maybe we got to do some stream We have so many, 1380 01:30:11.079 --> 01:30:12.560 we have a list of like twenty streams we have 1381 01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:12.760 to do. 1382 01:30:12.920 --> 01:30:13.279 But PK. 1383 01:30:13.439 --> 01:30:13.840 D man. 1384 01:30:14.399 --> 01:30:14.520 Uh. 1385 01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:17.800 He gave the speech about living in the in a 1386 01:30:17.880 --> 01:30:21.960 matrix and an artificial reality, an artificial construct, and he 1387 01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:24.000 really started to believe that this was real and that 1388 01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:27.159 he had tapped into in between the fabric of reality, 1389 01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:30.479 and he came up with some odd theories. But that's 1390 01:30:30.640 --> 01:30:33.319 that part of the of Waking Life, you know, that's 1391 01:30:33.399 --> 01:30:36.600 that's Richard link Later is the character who's telling that story. 1392 01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:38.279 So I think that means a lot to him for 1393 01:30:38.399 --> 01:30:41.039 some reason. I don't know why it means so much 1394 01:30:41.079 --> 01:30:43.680 to him, because it's a strange I don't know. I'd 1395 01:30:43.720 --> 01:30:44.600 have to watch that film again. 1396 01:30:44.760 --> 01:30:46.399 I wonder if he'd come on a stream. I should 1397 01:30:46.399 --> 01:30:48.359 ask if to reach out if he did an. 1398 01:30:48.239 --> 01:30:50.079 Interview, Dude, you should. You should get him on, man, 1399 01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:51.359 if you get him on a stream. 1400 01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:52.920 I'd love to come on trying to how many cram 1401 01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:53.520 But he didn't ever. 1402 01:30:54.319 --> 01:30:56.880 But I don't know forensicool and I'm a big fan 1403 01:30:56.920 --> 01:31:00.640 of link Later. I do like his films. Yeah, he 1404 01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:02.359 seems to have been able to make some good films 1405 01:31:02.399 --> 01:31:04.359 that he really liked and loved, and they meant a 1406 01:31:04.399 --> 01:31:06.479 lot to him, and he made him kind of outside 1407 01:31:06.520 --> 01:31:10.039 of the whole Hollywood weird ocracy. You know, he did 1408 01:31:10.079 --> 01:31:12.119 it out of Austin instead of Hollywood, right, and he 1409 01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:14.760 filmed a lot in Texas, right, And it seems like 1410 01:31:14.840 --> 01:31:18.600 he's kind of not so not so weird as some 1411 01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:19.920 of these Hollywood folks are. 1412 01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:23.640 All right, so total recall. We got the p K 1413 01:31:23.840 --> 01:31:29.960 d background, Paul Berhoven as a director, funny character if 1414 01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:32.720 you know. He did, of course Starship Troopers, which is 1415 01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:36.279 another weird sci fi Pentagon produced thing. They actually read 1416 01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:41.199 that kind of the hind line is read at I 1417 01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:43.840 think the Navy or Army War College, so you will 1418 01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:47.680 actually go read if you go to like Pentagon stuff, 1419 01:31:47.720 --> 01:31:49.800 you'll read hindline as part. 1420 01:31:49.640 --> 01:31:54.159 Of your recent A Stranger in a Strange Land Moon 1421 01:31:54.279 --> 01:31:54.800 is a Harsh. 1422 01:31:54.640 --> 01:31:57.119 Mistress too, which is actually about Google. So there's this 1423 01:31:57.279 --> 01:31:59.960 AI that's like helping the libertarian revolution. 1424 01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:03.800 Yeah, Vallas is kind of like that too, except Google. 1425 01:32:03.880 --> 01:32:08.039 The AI are now this off planet entity that beamed 1426 01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:11.800 thoughts to people's head. It's like, yeah, it's really, but 1427 01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:15.159 it's it's it's schizoid. He was he was into speed, 1428 01:32:15.399 --> 01:32:19.119 like right, Phil K. Dick was into speed and psychedelics, 1429 01:32:19.159 --> 01:32:22.319 and that is a combination for for some strange. 1430 01:32:22.039 --> 01:32:25.479 Only Speed I'm into is Vin Diesel Speed a. 1431 01:32:25.560 --> 01:32:29.159 K A fast and furious Baby, fast and furious. 1432 01:32:29.199 --> 01:32:30.720 I've never seen fas I'm joking. 1433 01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:34.439 Only only Vin Diesel I'm into is Triple X bro 1434 01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:37.279 Xander Cage. 1435 01:32:39.000 --> 01:32:42.359 That's that's how into Vin I am. I'm into Vin. 1436 01:32:42.920 --> 01:32:47.680 I have Vin diagrams about VIN numbers on cars, demonstrated. 1437 01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:49.920 That movie is so funny. Triple X is one of 1438 01:32:49.960 --> 01:32:51.000 the funniest movies ever. 1439 01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:53.359 He liked watch that. It's pretty bad. 1440 01:32:54.279 --> 01:32:56.840 Like the first three minutes he meets like Tony Hawk 1441 01:32:57.079 --> 01:32:59.960 and Dave Mira and like all the all the extreme 1442 01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:02.840 sports guys, and they're like, oh, They're like, oh, what's up, dude. 1443 01:33:02.880 --> 01:33:05.880 He's like, Hey, what's up Tony Hawk? And Tony Hey, 1444 01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:08.039 did you finish that new trick? Did you did you 1445 01:33:08.119 --> 01:33:10.319 finish that new trick yet? He's like, yeah, what my 1446 01:33:10.439 --> 01:33:14.279 Superman seat grab barrel roll No, I'm close. 1447 01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:16.640 Though, and then he like the bad guys come and 1448 01:33:16.720 --> 01:33:18.960 he blows everything up and then he like runs off 1449 01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:21.680 and he grabs a tray like a cafeteria tray and 1450 01:33:21.800 --> 01:33:24.560 board slides down a huge rail and then jumps on 1451 01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:29.239 a motorcycle. And then just jumps every explosion. That movie 1452 01:33:29.319 --> 01:33:29.760 is amazing. 1453 01:33:29.920 --> 01:33:37.800 Triple X, do you even know how to Tokyo trying 1454 01:33:37.840 --> 01:33:38.039 to do it? 1455 01:33:38.199 --> 01:33:38.359 Van? 1456 01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:42.560 Do you even know how to Tokyo drift? Dude? 1457 01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:44.840 Do you know Vin Diesel? He has an album. He 1458 01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:49.439 just put out an album. What in Diesel? It's on YouTube. 1459 01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:53.319 Somebody said. Somebody said Asia Argento is in Triple X. 1460 01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:57.920 That's weird, given Dario Ardento is such an esoteric, creepy 1461 01:33:58.319 --> 01:34:05.199 horror maker. By the way, no, I don't think you 1462 01:34:05.239 --> 01:34:10.760 would like it, but anyway, so, uh so we open 1463 01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:14.159 up what we got what looks like chocolate bar Mars. 1464 01:34:14.399 --> 01:34:16.560 Mars looks like a big red chocolate bar. 1465 01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:18.439 The the. 1466 01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:23.680 Models, so they're still using models. No c g I yet, 1467 01:34:23.800 --> 01:34:26.079 really in this there's only one sequence that I recalled 1468 01:34:26.119 --> 01:34:27.680 me in c G I in this movie, which is 1469 01:34:27.760 --> 01:34:31.520 the we We We ran them off, he ran away. Finally, 1470 01:34:35.039 --> 01:34:35.520 I was about to. 1471 01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:38.960 Start cowering, cowering and shame, start dropping insults, but. 1472 01:34:41.399 --> 01:34:44.439 You drop you dropped without my insults. 1473 01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:47.479 So that was I was. I was just kind of 1474 01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:49.720 cowering over there in the corner and shame and fear 1475 01:34:49.840 --> 01:34:52.520 from all these great Vegan debaters who've been crushing me 1476 01:34:52.640 --> 01:34:53.600 in comments all week. 1477 01:34:56.279 --> 01:34:59.920 You're not fast and furious, you just slow and medium. 1478 01:35:01.079 --> 01:35:01.359 How's that? 1479 01:35:02.600 --> 01:35:03.640 Is that a line from Fasten? 1480 01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:07.199 I just made it up. I don't even I don't 1481 01:35:07.199 --> 01:35:08.800 even know how to talk like Vin Diesel. I'm just 1482 01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:11.000 trying to remember kind of what he talks about. He's 1483 01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:14.720 got like this gravelious voice of gravy voice. 1484 01:35:16.640 --> 01:35:18.520 Yeah, but it's so fake though, like it's. 1485 01:35:18.960 --> 01:35:21.000 He probably yeah, he probably doesn't really talk. He probably 1486 01:35:21.039 --> 01:35:23.399 times like this. You're really taught, you. 1487 01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:31.560 Realizing swag white? I wonder what race is Van Diesel. 1488 01:35:31.600 --> 01:35:33.119 He's like he's like one of those like the rock 1489 01:35:33.239 --> 01:35:35.720 like racially ambiguous where it's like you could just project 1490 01:35:35.800 --> 01:35:37.920 whatever race you think is cool, and that's him. Like 1491 01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:42.880 if you're white, like is his race, if you're if 1492 01:35:42.960 --> 01:35:45.119 you're if you're like Mexican, you kind of think Vin 1493 01:35:45.159 --> 01:35:47.800 Diesel's Mexican. If you're if you're black, you think he's 1494 01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:51.199 part black. But he just never says anything. His real 1495 01:35:51.319 --> 01:35:53.279 last name is probably like Bronfman or something. 1496 01:35:55.039 --> 01:35:57.640 Isn't he like Hawaiian or something? 1497 01:35:58.399 --> 01:36:00.239 I don't know. I feel like Vin Diesel is. 1498 01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:01.319 A no no. 1499 01:36:01.439 --> 01:36:03.560 I mean the Rock is like Smoe or something. Oh 1500 01:36:03.600 --> 01:36:03.800 the Rock. 1501 01:36:03.880 --> 01:36:06.119 Yeah. I think his dad is like half black and 1502 01:36:06.399 --> 01:36:08.840 half Samoan or something. He's a rock. I think he 1503 01:36:08.840 --> 01:36:10.319 has a little bit of black in but he's mostly 1504 01:36:10.399 --> 01:36:13.279 got Samoan, which is why he's a monster. Dude. Simones 1505 01:36:13.319 --> 01:36:18.159 are freaking huge, strong people there, and they really like 1506 01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:18.760 family too. 1507 01:36:19.119 --> 01:36:22.800 They're down there eating all those vegetables beacons. 1508 01:36:22.439 --> 01:36:27.560 All those vegetables, yeah right, all the soy that they like. Uh. 1509 01:36:28.079 --> 01:36:35.239 So we see pyramid minds. There's colonization of Mars. Terraformed Mars. 1510 01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:38.680 Mars is now a colony, so we get this whole 1511 01:36:38.800 --> 01:36:43.760 industrial complex colonization now of other planets, just like empires 1512 01:36:43.800 --> 01:36:47.039 would have colonies previously. Uh, and now we find out 1513 01:36:47.079 --> 01:36:49.359 it's gonna be a resource war. And the first thing 1514 01:36:49.399 --> 01:36:51.960 that popped in my head was this makes me think 1515 01:36:51.960 --> 01:36:54.520 of like the stuff that we hear about Elon Musk 1516 01:36:54.680 --> 01:36:57.560 is going to send us to Mars, I mean, or 1517 01:36:57.640 --> 01:37:01.800 we being to Mars this goofy thing. Yeah. 1518 01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:04.239 Well, and and Mars is actually run by like an 1519 01:37:04.279 --> 01:37:06.800 Elon Musk type character, right, I mean this is uh. 1520 01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:09.760 And I've got some notes here like the I mean, 1521 01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:12.600 it starts out the very beginning in the first shots 1522 01:37:12.680 --> 01:37:15.520 kind of evoke this idea of you know, dreams and reality, 1523 01:37:15.800 --> 01:37:17.119 I dreaming, is this real? 1524 01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:17.960 You don't know? 1525 01:37:18.279 --> 01:37:20.119 Right, doesn't He wakes up from a dream, like a 1526 01:37:20.199 --> 01:37:23.159 sexual dream, and he's with Sharon Stone and they have 1527 01:37:23.319 --> 01:37:26.640 this they're in this kind of honeymoon style relationship where 1528 01:37:26.640 --> 01:37:29.239 they're like they're just so enamored with each other they 1529 01:37:29.279 --> 01:37:31.800 can't stop kissing, and like they's all over each other, 1530 01:37:32.319 --> 01:37:34.800 which is that's another funny Hollywood thing, right, all the 1531 01:37:35.279 --> 01:37:39.640 all the relationships in these films, they're all very unrealistic, right, Like, 1532 01:37:39.720 --> 01:37:42.159 if you you've been with someone, you love, somebody, you've 1533 01:37:42.159 --> 01:37:43.920 been with them for a little bit, you're not like 1534 01:37:44.359 --> 01:37:46.119 constantly making out all over the place. 1535 01:37:46.560 --> 01:37:51.680 But remember this one is unique because uh, she's a 1536 01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:53.199 sex operative. 1537 01:37:53.479 --> 01:37:56.319 Yes exactly, And that's and that's why I mean that 1538 01:37:56.560 --> 01:37:58.399 that is an excuse. But also but there's other films 1539 01:37:58.439 --> 01:38:01.039 where it's like, right, like we got to be like, 1540 01:38:01.159 --> 01:38:03.359 I don't know that this false ideal of like your 1541 01:38:03.399 --> 01:38:06.920 relationship is just all sexual and it's hyper sexual and 1542 01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:08.800 you're just always all over each other and you have 1543 01:38:08.880 --> 01:38:11.159 to just be like tonguing each other's faces all day. 1544 01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:14.079 I think that's a that's a weird Hollywood trope that 1545 01:38:14.119 --> 01:38:18.399 gets pushed out there. There's nothing wrong with affection and stuff, 1546 01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:20.199 but it's like, look, you've been married for a few years. 1547 01:38:20.680 --> 01:38:24.800 You're probably not going to be tongueing each other constantly 1548 01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:27.960 like you like you see in these films. It's very weird, very. 1549 01:38:27.880 --> 01:38:31.039 Strange, right, which you're right, that's actually a key, I think, 1550 01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:34.800 showing us that something's off about this present experience of Arnold. 1551 01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:38.279 And then he he goes and he's working this jackhammer, 1552 01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:40.640 and it's it's like so that we're in the future, 1553 01:38:41.840 --> 01:38:44.000 they can fly to Mars, but dudes are still out 1554 01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:45.880 there just with jackhammers, just like there's no. 1555 01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:49.560 You still have you still need any any they have 1556 01:38:49.720 --> 01:38:51.880 like a it's like on his bicep that's got close 1557 01:38:51.960 --> 01:38:57.800 up on his biceps. Arnold just looking jacked, just jacked 1558 01:38:57.840 --> 01:39:00.439 out of his mind. But the scene with him and 1559 01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:02.800 Sharon Stone and she's like punching him, she's sitting on 1560 01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:06.039 top of him and she's like she's really jealous. Like 1561 01:39:06.199 --> 01:39:09.680 right away, it's this idea of like the sex relationship 1562 01:39:09.720 --> 01:39:12.399 between them, which is just sexual it seems, and it's 1563 01:39:12.560 --> 01:39:15.439 just about control and jealousy, and the jealousy kind of 1564 01:39:15.680 --> 01:39:17.760 gives you a hint that something's not quite right here 1565 01:39:18.319 --> 01:39:19.800 and that they don't seem like they've been together. 1566 01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:27.119 Dream about her, keep dreaming of her, because I just do. 1567 01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:32.600 She's like, why are you thinking about her? 1568 01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:36.279 Well, I was thinking of her then and now I'm thinking. 1569 01:39:36.079 --> 01:39:37.680 Of you, right. 1570 01:39:37.840 --> 01:39:40.279 He just he just laughs it off, and it's really good. 1571 01:39:40.319 --> 01:39:42.399 But then she just she just like lays back. She's like, 1572 01:39:42.880 --> 01:39:45.319 I'll give you something the dream about and then she 1573 01:39:45.439 --> 01:39:48.239 like lays down and spreads her legs or something. He's like, waw, 1574 01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:52.039 it's super funny. The opening scene is hilarious. 1575 01:39:53.560 --> 01:39:57.239 There was a couple quick kind of references to things 1576 01:39:57.439 --> 01:40:00.560 that were ahead of their time. There's a war on 1577 01:40:00.760 --> 01:40:03.880 terror going on right that keeps being mentioned on the news. 1578 01:40:04.760 --> 01:40:10.000 ESPN is everywhere everywhere Arnold goes, there's screens everywhere blasting ESPN. 1579 01:40:10.600 --> 01:40:12.800 There's war on terror blasting. 1580 01:40:12.840 --> 01:40:12.960 Now. 1581 01:40:13.039 --> 01:40:15.560 This is prior to war on terror. This is, by 1582 01:40:15.600 --> 01:40:19.640 the way, keep in mind, nobody had been thinking of 1583 01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:23.399 war on terror in nineteen ninety. Right after this comes 1584 01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:28.000 another big blockbuster that kicks off Hollywood's notion of war 1585 01:40:28.039 --> 01:40:30.880 on terror, and that's true lies another big Arnold moves. 1586 01:40:30.960 --> 01:40:33.520 So Arnold will be in some of these key pivot 1587 01:40:33.680 --> 01:40:37.600 point late eighties early nineties action figures that will transition 1588 01:40:37.720 --> 01:40:44.479 everybody's thought process into eighties commando cold war stuff, rambow stuff, 1589 01:40:45.119 --> 01:40:48.399 now flip it over into nineties war on terror. 1590 01:40:49.199 --> 01:40:54.840 Yep, Yeah, so what he said, code babe, you know 1591 01:40:54.920 --> 01:40:56.159 you're the good of my dreams. 1592 01:40:56.479 --> 01:40:58.000 You know you're the good of my dreams. 1593 01:40:58.680 --> 01:41:00.079 I don't know why I wrote down that line, just 1594 01:41:00.119 --> 01:41:02.600 thought that was funny. But there's space based weapons another 1595 01:41:02.640 --> 01:41:06.239 thing that the weaponization of space. And you mentioned like 1596 01:41:06.319 --> 01:41:09.039 there's screens everywhere in their home, right, So they live 1597 01:41:09.119 --> 01:41:12.319 in this It's not like a teeny tiny apartment. It 1598 01:41:12.399 --> 01:41:14.279 actually looks kind of big, but for Hollywood, like in 1599 01:41:14.279 --> 01:41:17.680 a Hollywood movie, when you're shooting something like this, it 1600 01:41:17.840 --> 01:41:20.119 makes it look small. So it does kind of seem 1601 01:41:20.159 --> 01:41:23.319 like they're in this coffin apartment type situation. And they've 1602 01:41:23.399 --> 01:41:25.439 switched on the TV. Switches on the TV, starts watching 1603 01:41:25.439 --> 01:41:27.479 the news and getting all freaked out about the terror 1604 01:41:27.520 --> 01:41:29.880 attacks and all the things the news is terrorizing him about. 1605 01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:33.159 She switches it off and it goes to this nature 1606 01:41:33.239 --> 01:41:36.840 scene of like a beautiful pond and a bunch of trees. 1607 01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:40.359 So the only natural landscapes that they're exposed to are 1608 01:41:40.520 --> 01:41:46.079 through their screens. This artificial Yeah, and so they I mean, 1609 01:41:46.159 --> 01:41:48.319 this is not by accident like you mean, I'm sure. 1610 01:41:48.600 --> 01:41:53.239 I'm sure the Pentagon was consulting for this film as well, 1611 01:41:53.399 --> 01:41:54.039 just like they having so. 1612 01:41:54.079 --> 01:41:56.760 Much Well, don't forget the next sequence after that, which 1613 01:41:56.840 --> 01:41:59.439 is the TSA. Arnold has to walk through a giant 1614 01:42:00.279 --> 01:42:04.159 X ray that fully X rays his whole body. 1615 01:42:04.920 --> 01:42:08.479 And there's body scanners, surveillance and TSA and biometrics as well, 1616 01:42:08.640 --> 01:42:13.039 right with the thumb printing and so the biometric identification. 1617 01:42:13.800 --> 01:42:16.880 Also you mentioned like the terrorists, the War on Terror 1618 01:42:16.920 --> 01:42:21.960 and the stuff there. These factions are fighting over this 1619 01:42:22.439 --> 01:42:27.439 esoteric gnostic idea of artifacts in this pyramid mine. So 1620 01:42:28.199 --> 01:42:30.119 there's kind of this. 1621 01:42:30.319 --> 01:42:33.640 Ancient alien technology on Mars that will give people an 1622 01:42:33.880 --> 01:42:36.319 upper hand in terms of resource. 1623 01:42:35.960 --> 01:42:39.800 War, right, and they tie it in with this gnostic idea, 1624 01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:44.520 and there are essentially this mutant colony has been prepared 1625 01:42:44.600 --> 01:42:48.600 on Mars by this billionaire class and this man what 1626 01:42:48.760 --> 01:42:53.199 was the guy's name that runs Mars. I think it 1627 01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:54.000 was something else is. 1628 01:42:54.000 --> 01:43:02.079 Like the revolution is run by So the billionaire bag 1629 01:43:02.159 --> 01:43:04.600 guy is Cochrane, and then there's the they call him 1630 01:43:04.640 --> 01:43:07.840 the George Washington of Mars. Yeah, his name. 1631 01:43:07.880 --> 01:43:12.279 So again this gnostic idea of revolution, right, we're gonna 1632 01:43:12.319 --> 01:43:15.960 we have to overthrow the established order. The Demiurs in 1633 01:43:16.039 --> 01:43:19.239 the film is this kind of Elon Musk's style billionaire 1634 01:43:19.319 --> 01:43:23.039 guy who has colonized Mars, terraformed Mars and created a 1635 01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:27.319 giant bubble where he controls and rations quantum air. Quanto yeah, 1636 01:43:27.640 --> 01:43:32.079 Quatto right, So Quato is the rebel army leader, and 1637 01:43:32.920 --> 01:43:35.119 it's kind of similar to Later Runner twenty forty nine 1638 01:43:35.239 --> 01:43:37.279 in some ways. How you have this underground movement of 1639 01:43:37.319 --> 01:43:40.039 the mutants that want to be free, but the demiers 1640 01:43:40.119 --> 01:43:42.319 is keeping them down. And it's this Elon Musk type 1641 01:43:42.399 --> 01:43:45.039 character who has sealed them into this bubble and makes 1642 01:43:45.079 --> 01:43:46.960 them pay for air, which I think is really funny, 1643 01:43:47.039 --> 01:43:49.199 kind of the Agenda twenty one type exactly right. 1644 01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:55.680 So the ultimate privatization of resources now beyond water, right, 1645 01:43:56.000 --> 01:43:59.439 is air? Right. And so if you're on Mars, presumably 1646 01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:05.079 to this mythology, like if you could control the oxygen 1647 01:44:05.159 --> 01:44:07.960 on Mars, you would have you know, total resource control. 1648 01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:10.640 But before I got to that, though, I wanted to 1649 01:44:10.720 --> 01:44:16.159 mention that when he sees the ad for Recall, it's 1650 01:44:16.279 --> 01:44:19.800 very interesting that Recall has a K instead of a C, 1651 01:44:20.039 --> 01:44:22.680 so that the been spelled R E K A L L. 1652 01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:25.600 And then they have a butterfly that's a logo. So 1653 01:44:25.680 --> 01:44:28.159 I think that m K the K is there for 1654 01:44:29.800 --> 01:44:31.119 for a reason to tell you that this is a 1655 01:44:31.199 --> 01:44:35.600 reference obliquely to MK Ultra. The butterfly shows up to 1656 01:44:35.640 --> 01:44:38.520 show you that it's monarch because in those programs and 1657 01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:42.359 DARPA has developed this nowadays, the ability to erase and 1658 01:44:42.640 --> 01:44:46.359 replace and implant memories. As you pointed out Blade Runner, 1659 01:44:46.439 --> 01:44:49.319 that's exactly what happens with the replicants. PK D is 1660 01:44:49.600 --> 01:44:56.199 who wrote a Blade Runner story, And here pkd is 1661 01:44:56.239 --> 01:44:59.119 telling us about the same stuff with DARPA memory erasing 1662 01:44:59.199 --> 01:45:03.119 and replacing. And what does Arnold end up with as 1663 01:45:03.239 --> 01:45:09.479 his programming a secret agent mind control program? Yep, So 1664 01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:14.079 he sits in this machine, gets his mind wiped, and then, 1665 01:45:14.640 --> 01:45:17.479 which is probably one of the best aspects of the 1666 01:45:17.560 --> 01:45:20.079 movie is that we are put into this state where 1667 01:45:20.199 --> 01:45:22.439 we're now trying to figure out what's real and what's 1668 01:45:22.479 --> 01:45:24.520 part of the matrix. So this is actually the matrix. 1669 01:45:24.680 --> 01:45:27.800 Prior to the matrix, Arnold is running around in this 1670 01:45:28.119 --> 01:45:31.319 story that he's chosen and now we can't figure out 1671 01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:35.960 was Sharon Stone really his girlfriend at the beginning? Where 1672 01:45:36.079 --> 01:45:38.840 did he actually start his programming? We don't know. And 1673 01:45:38.920 --> 01:45:41.159 that's I think the best part of this movie is 1674 01:45:41.199 --> 01:45:41.760 that aspect. 1675 01:45:42.399 --> 01:45:46.399 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The idea of you know, the company recall, 1676 01:45:46.479 --> 01:45:49.079 it's like this. It's this corporate mk ultra type program 1677 01:45:49.119 --> 01:45:51.239 where they sell people on the idea of vacations, right, 1678 01:45:51.479 --> 01:45:53.159 so you don't have to go into real vacation that's 1679 01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:55.039 dangerous or it's not as fun, it's not as cool. 1680 01:45:55.319 --> 01:45:57.479 We're going to implant memories in you. We're going to 1681 01:45:57.560 --> 01:46:00.159 sell you whatever memories you want, and you'll think it's 1682 01:46:00.199 --> 01:46:02.199 totally real and you'll experience it all. So this is 1683 01:46:02.359 --> 01:46:09.279 kind of neurolink type idea as well. And and how 1684 01:46:09.319 --> 01:46:11.399 does he pay for it? Jay pays for it with 1685 01:46:11.600 --> 01:46:12.439 social credits? 1686 01:46:12.560 --> 01:46:13.880 Oh good one, dude. 1687 01:46:14.199 --> 01:46:17.039 You know they call it credits. You pay with your credits. 1688 01:46:17.119 --> 01:46:20.199 It only costs eight and ninety nine credits. How else 1689 01:46:20.239 --> 01:46:21.279 would you spend your credits? 1690 01:46:22.239 --> 01:46:23.760 Huh, I didn't even notice that. 1691 01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:26.560 Yeah, that's a weird that's that's kind of a weird 1692 01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:29.960 predictive part of it thought was very strange. 1693 01:46:30.600 --> 01:46:34.319 Did you notice too, the oh, by the way, mentioning 1694 01:46:34.399 --> 01:46:39.359 that that Pentagon deep state element. Remember, because so Starship 1695 01:46:39.520 --> 01:46:44.640 Starship Troopers is hindline and that's satire and what you 1696 01:46:44.760 --> 01:46:48.680 read if you go to Army War College, Verehoven directs that, 1697 01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:52.920 Vera Hooven directs this. And remember that PKD was was 1698 01:46:53.000 --> 01:46:55.600 claiming that he had been in the circles of Silicon Valley, 1699 01:46:55.680 --> 01:46:58.760 so he wasn't just making stuff up. He had been 1700 01:46:58.880 --> 01:47:01.600 hanging out with those guys. Yeah what would become silk 1701 01:47:01.640 --> 01:47:06.319 and valid, So he had inside kind of whether PKD. 1702 01:47:06.119 --> 01:47:08.520 Was kind of one of these think tank guys that 1703 01:47:08.680 --> 01:47:11.319 it seems like he was being harvested for ideas. He 1704 01:47:11.359 --> 01:47:14.399 seems like it seems like in the seventies, especially a 1705 01:47:14.479 --> 01:47:18.960 lot of these California characters and the drug culture. Pk 1706 01:47:19.119 --> 01:47:22.600 D even you know, Leary was openly involved with in 1707 01:47:22.760 --> 01:47:25.479 intelligence agencies and stuff, but it seems like there was 1708 01:47:25.560 --> 01:47:28.560 a certain part of the intelligence agencies that were using 1709 01:47:29.079 --> 01:47:33.119 characters like this just and monitoring them and harvesting ideas 1710 01:47:33.159 --> 01:47:36.399 from them and using them because as winning and unwilling 1711 01:47:36.479 --> 01:47:40.159 witting members of think tanks or social engineering planning, and 1712 01:47:41.239 --> 01:47:42.840 he was involved in that stuff and he got freaked 1713 01:47:42.840 --> 01:47:44.439 out by it, by what he saw and what he heard. 1714 01:47:44.680 --> 01:47:47.520 In Annie Jacobson's DARPA books, she talks about she got 1715 01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:50.840 whole chapters on the Pentagon talking to sci fi writers 1716 01:47:51.039 --> 01:47:53.960 and they were kind of doing this thing, trying to 1717 01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:58.439 get harvest ideas. Like you said, another weird element was 1718 01:47:58.479 --> 01:48:01.359 that they tried to sell him on uh. When Arnold 1719 01:48:01.359 --> 01:48:03.439 gets in the cat scan, it looks like a CATSCA machine. 1720 01:48:03.439 --> 01:48:05.000 By the way, I was you know that funny scene 1721 01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:07.760 when he's like ah and he's he's laying in the 1722 01:48:07.840 --> 01:48:10.600 cat scan machine, and it made me immediately think of 1723 01:48:11.439 --> 01:48:16.199 when he's in is it kindergarten cop and his idiot 1724 01:48:16.279 --> 01:48:19.319 line is not a tuma, it's not a here. He's 1725 01:48:19.359 --> 01:48:21.279 laying in a cat scan machine. Basically that is what 1726 01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:25.119 it looks like. And there's another reference in this movie 1727 01:48:25.239 --> 01:48:29.119 to other Arnold movies or future Arnold movies, because there's 1728 01:48:29.159 --> 01:48:30.920 two or three times in this movie where he's like, 1729 01:48:31.520 --> 01:48:32.279 you'll not me. 1730 01:48:32.960 --> 01:48:35.199 I am me, Hey, you all me? 1731 01:48:35.720 --> 01:48:40.159 And then in Sixth Day, when he encounters his clones. 1732 01:48:40.199 --> 01:48:43.840 He's like, hey, you'll not me. I am me, No, 1733 01:48:44.159 --> 01:48:45.560 I am me, you'll you. 1734 01:48:46.520 --> 01:48:51.279 They have this idiot dialogue back and forth. But this 1735 01:48:51.439 --> 01:48:53.319 comes up in more than one Arnold movie. Have you 1736 01:48:53.399 --> 01:48:55.520 have you seen sixth Day the Cloning Arnold movie? 1737 01:48:55.920 --> 01:48:57.479 No? No, I'm not seeing that one. What year was? 1738 01:48:57.520 --> 01:49:00.479 Oh dude, it's hilarious, man, you gotta watch this. It's 1739 01:49:00.520 --> 01:49:00.960 as funny. 1740 01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:02.119 I like Arnold. I'm always for. 1741 01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:05.960 It's as goofy as a total recall, and Arnold has 1742 01:49:06.079 --> 01:49:08.520 just as many goofy one liners. 1743 01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:10.279 And before or after. 1744 01:49:11.880 --> 01:49:14.359 It's after so I think it's about ninety five or six. 1745 01:49:17.199 --> 01:49:21.359 So so Arnold has a handful of doozies. I would say, 1746 01:49:21.920 --> 01:49:24.119 By the way, Predator actually is really good. Predator is 1747 01:49:24.199 --> 01:49:25.000 a movie. 1748 01:49:25.119 --> 01:49:27.399 Yeah, it is well, and there's other Predator movies that 1749 01:49:27.479 --> 01:49:30.000 are goofy. But also was the one where they have 1750 01:49:30.079 --> 01:49:31.600 like the Pyramids and Antarctica? 1751 01:49:31.960 --> 01:49:35.880 Yes, I know, Alien versus Predator is where they Yeah. 1752 01:49:36.520 --> 01:49:39.439 But it's mostly action, but there are some weird esoteric 1753 01:49:39.880 --> 01:49:40.560 things in that one. 1754 01:49:41.560 --> 01:49:44.279 So Arnold has a bunch of stinkers, but he actually 1755 01:49:44.319 --> 01:49:47.279 have some some that are funny. Running Man is really good. 1756 01:49:47.439 --> 01:49:50.319 I do recommend if you've never seen. That's a great dystopia. 1757 01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:56.000 Running Man with Arnold total recall is fun it's funny. 1758 01:49:57.079 --> 01:50:01.600 Definitely watch Commando. That's classic eighties just Arnold being ridiculous. 1759 01:50:01.960 --> 01:50:05.479 And then The Sixth Day is not that good of 1760 01:50:05.560 --> 01:50:07.359 a movie, but it does have a lot of predictive 1761 01:50:07.399 --> 01:50:10.760 program It's got driverless cars and all kinds of stuff 1762 01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:13.720 like that, and but just Arnold interacting with his clones. 1763 01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:17.520 It's hilarious just because it's so ridiculous. True lies is relevant, 1764 01:50:17.640 --> 01:50:20.840 just because it kicks off we're on terror, and I'm 1765 01:50:20.880 --> 01:50:24.000 sure there's a bunch more Arnold, but the one liners 1766 01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:27.119 are pretty classic in Sixth Day and in Commando and 1767 01:50:27.279 --> 01:50:30.960 Running MANE gets. 1768 01:50:35.159 --> 01:50:36.960 Divorce gets. 1769 01:50:39.279 --> 01:50:44.159 Oh yeah, divorce see you with the. 1770 01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:56.399 I love punches Sharon Stone in the face. Well that's 1771 01:50:56.399 --> 01:50:58.399 what he shoots her in the head, but before that, 1772 01:50:58.560 --> 01:50:59.920 he punches her in the face. 1773 01:51:00.720 --> 01:51:02.800 When they first fight. Yeah, when he finds out she's a. 1774 01:51:02.840 --> 01:51:08.119 Box her out, oh man. And then she kicks him 1775 01:51:08.159 --> 01:51:08.680 the balls like. 1776 01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:12.039 Ye does the ouch my balls move right close. 1777 01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:14.640 Close up, Ouch my balls like four times they should 1778 01:51:14.680 --> 01:51:19.119 have had like a bank, but they didn't. Hey did 1779 01:51:19.159 --> 01:51:20.960 you notice that they have autonomous vehicles? 1780 01:51:21.079 --> 01:51:22.880 Yeah, they have the robot uber driver. 1781 01:51:23.479 --> 01:51:27.079 Hey yeah, I'm your Carson Cabs. Welcome to Carson Cab. 1782 01:51:29.239 --> 01:51:34.560 The idea of like drive, I like, all he has 1783 01:51:34.600 --> 01:51:36.399 to do is rip the robot out and then he 1784 01:51:36.479 --> 01:51:38.680 grabs the joy in it. Like they make a robot 1785 01:51:38.800 --> 01:51:41.840 to drive with a joystick. Why don't they just make 1786 01:51:41.920 --> 01:51:46.039 the robot wired directly? I don't get it. But so 1787 01:51:46.279 --> 01:51:50.319 there's this The idea of the breakaway civilization is you know, 1788 01:51:50.399 --> 01:51:55.439 obviously very prominent, but also uh compartmentalization, right, the compartmentalization 1789 01:51:55.520 --> 01:51:57.239 where you know, one one hand doesn't know what the 1790 01:51:57.279 --> 01:52:00.439 other hand is doing, which is really important intelligence agencies. 1791 01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:05.239 And they bring this up with the antagonist characters where 1792 01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:07.600 he says to him, I don't give you enough information 1793 01:52:07.760 --> 01:52:10.520 to think you do what you're told, right. So the 1794 01:52:10.960 --> 01:52:12.840 characters they're out there doing their own little missions, but 1795 01:52:12.840 --> 01:52:15.319 they don't understand the big picture thing, and sometimes they 1796 01:52:15.399 --> 01:52:18.760 get fed lies to keep them compartmentalized. And then in 1797 01:52:18.800 --> 01:52:21.199 the end some of them come to realize some of 1798 01:52:21.239 --> 01:52:25.640 the bigger picture. But that idea of compartmentalization is here 1799 01:52:25.720 --> 01:52:28.880 in the film. And that's, as you have talked about 1800 01:52:28.920 --> 01:52:33.439 many times, it's really important the intelligence world sexual blackmail, right, 1801 01:52:33.479 --> 01:52:35.039 I mean, there's like there's a lot of a lot 1802 01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:39.800 of different control mechanisms that are exploring this film. And 1803 01:52:39.960 --> 01:52:48.920 I wrote down just a few sexual blackmail, sexual blackmail, drugs, hypnosis, cybernetics, 1804 01:52:49.279 --> 01:52:50.600 virtual reality, theater. 1805 01:52:50.800 --> 01:52:50.920 Right. 1806 01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:53.840 This idea of theater at almost ritual, where you have 1807 01:52:55.079 --> 01:52:58.279 people in somebody's life, handlers that will come and stage 1808 01:52:58.359 --> 01:53:01.640 certain events or pay out certain narratives in order to 1809 01:53:01.720 --> 01:53:04.840 influence a character and their worldview so that they will 1810 01:53:04.880 --> 01:53:07.039 interpret the world in certain ways and thus behave in 1811 01:53:07.119 --> 01:53:09.359 certain ways, is a big part of the mind control 1812 01:53:09.439 --> 01:53:11.159 techniques that they use. Right. They're always trying to tell 1813 01:53:11.199 --> 01:53:13.399 them a story, right, like, oh no, no, this is 1814 01:53:13.439 --> 01:53:16.720 what's really happening. You were doing this, but the real 1815 01:53:16.840 --> 01:53:18.760 reason was this, and you never never know if it's 1816 01:53:18.840 --> 01:53:20.960 true or if it's a lie. And that's kind of 1817 01:53:20.960 --> 01:53:23.279 how intelligence agencies work, right. If you want somebody to 1818 01:53:23.359 --> 01:53:25.279 do your dirty work, you don't tell them why they're 1819 01:53:25.359 --> 01:53:28.760 doing it. You get somebody who's dumb enough and compartmentalize 1820 01:53:28.800 --> 01:53:30.279 that they'll get a job done and not have any 1821 01:53:30.319 --> 01:53:33.880 idea the bigger picture of what they're connected to. Yes, 1822 01:53:34.800 --> 01:53:40.359 there's another trauma of course, right, ritual trauma, electroshock, electroshock therapy, 1823 01:53:40.359 --> 01:53:40.840 so all these. 1824 01:53:40.880 --> 01:53:43.800 Kult type He's got a microchip implant that he has 1825 01:53:43.800 --> 01:53:47.520 to pull out through his nose like a gigantic booger, right. 1826 01:53:47.800 --> 01:53:50.680 Right. Then they also used film to mess with him, 1827 01:53:51.159 --> 01:53:54.159 remember like the film that they had him shoot, right, 1828 01:53:54.239 --> 01:53:58.680 So they used film, theatrics and and of course you 1829 01:53:58.720 --> 01:54:00.760 know just the threat of vil. So those are just 1830 01:54:00.800 --> 01:54:04.079 some of the control mechanisms that were explored in order 1831 01:54:04.159 --> 01:54:08.439 to manipulate characters consciousness and manipulate characters in doing what 1832 01:54:08.560 --> 01:54:10.439 they want to do. And all of those are pretty 1833 01:54:10.520 --> 01:54:15.840 dag important in the world of espionage, and these are 1834 01:54:16.279 --> 01:54:18.800 tools used by espionage agent agencies all the time. 1835 01:54:19.079 --> 01:54:23.039 Right, there's multiple references to doubles. He gets a hologram 1836 01:54:23.279 --> 01:54:25.720 that's his double, and obviously, yes that's a hologram. But 1837 01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:31.680 you'll notice there's different layers to Arnold's psyche and who 1838 01:54:31.760 --> 01:54:34.720 he is. So he doesn't know whether he's a mind 1839 01:54:34.760 --> 01:54:37.760 control operative, whether he's a normy guy who's on a 1840 01:54:37.840 --> 01:54:41.560 vacation that he bought or whether he's actually, as we 1841 01:54:41.680 --> 01:54:44.479 find out in the third act, been programmed all along 1842 01:54:44.520 --> 01:54:46.840 by the corporation to be a triple agent. So there's 1843 01:54:46.920 --> 01:54:51.680 there's these alters and layers to Arnold, which is imaged 1844 01:54:51.760 --> 01:54:55.239 in the doubling, Right, Hitchcock does this a lot where 1845 01:54:55.239 --> 01:54:58.039 he'll have doubles. Lynch has doubling and doubles a lot, 1846 01:54:58.079 --> 01:55:01.279 And that's really just to show that the division in 1847 01:55:01.600 --> 01:55:06.039 the protagonists psyche, that he's not sure what's real, just 1848 01:55:06.119 --> 01:55:08.399 like with Jacob and Jacob's leader. He doesn't he doesn't 1849 01:55:08.439 --> 01:55:12.439 know who he is. He's disintegrated. His psyche is not integrated. 1850 01:55:12.479 --> 01:55:15.439 It's disintegrated and dissociated. 1851 01:55:15.479 --> 01:55:22.520 Through all of these techniques like trauma, you ritual implants, yes, implants, cybernetics, 1852 01:55:23.680 --> 01:55:26.640 electroshock therapy, all these things were used. And then also 1853 01:55:26.760 --> 01:55:29.399 just lies, right, it's just people telling him lies about 1854 01:55:29.680 --> 01:55:32.439 where he is, what he's doing in order to get 1855 01:55:32.479 --> 01:55:35.359 what they want from him. And then they tell him 1856 01:55:35.359 --> 01:55:37.840 he's dreaming a lot. Oh, you're dreaming, it's a hallucination. 1857 01:55:38.680 --> 01:55:41.760 And I mean they come to him. That's interesting because 1858 01:55:41.800 --> 01:55:45.239 they come to him and they say, you have schizoid embolism, 1859 01:55:45.439 --> 01:55:48.359 and you don't you can never know, and you don't 1860 01:55:48.399 --> 01:55:50.520 know what's real, so you're gonna have to distrust us 1861 01:55:50.640 --> 01:55:51.479 and do what we tell you. 1862 01:55:52.159 --> 01:55:53.920 So yeah, I mean that's that. What a great way 1863 01:55:54.079 --> 01:55:59.880 to initiate a you know, an agent into an organization 1864 01:56:00.039 --> 01:56:03.680 and completely confuse them and have them not understand who 1865 01:56:03.760 --> 01:56:07.319 they are what they're doing, because if they get caught, 1866 01:56:07.800 --> 01:56:10.680 who's going to believe this crazy person who's completely confused 1867 01:56:10.720 --> 01:56:14.720 and schizophrenic. And yeah, I think this is kind of 1868 01:56:14.800 --> 01:56:17.119 overlook a lot of people think of, you know, mind control, 1869 01:56:17.159 --> 01:56:23.000 and they think just about a clockwork orange style uh 1870 01:56:23.680 --> 01:56:27.800 mk ultra techniques. But more I think worldview warfare is 1871 01:56:27.840 --> 01:56:30.319 a really important concept here and this is what's being 1872 01:56:30.319 --> 01:56:33.800 waged on Arnold the entire time. Worldview warfare about who 1873 01:56:33.880 --> 01:56:36.800 he is, where he's going, what is what his reality 1874 01:56:37.640 --> 01:56:38.199 is all about? 1875 01:56:39.359 --> 01:56:44.760 You're not you, I'm you, You are not you? You 1876 01:56:44.880 --> 01:56:45.159 are me? 1877 01:56:46.600 --> 01:56:48.680 Venus Ville? What was that with Venusville? Why do you 1878 01:56:48.720 --> 01:56:49.479 think they call that? That? 1879 01:56:49.600 --> 01:56:49.760 One? 1880 01:56:49.920 --> 01:56:54.680 The area with the Masonic checkerboard floor in the where 1881 01:56:54.680 --> 01:56:56.359 all the whores are, all the hookers and like get 1882 01:56:56.359 --> 01:56:59.479 like the midget, the red light district. They called it 1883 01:56:59.560 --> 01:57:00.399 venus Ville, and. 1884 01:57:00.560 --> 01:57:02.960 That was oh, well Venus, that's right, Yeah, so Venus 1885 01:57:03.159 --> 01:57:07.840 is the area. Well, it's obviously connected with the sexuality 1886 01:57:07.880 --> 01:57:09.760 and lust and all that, and so the red light 1887 01:57:09.800 --> 01:57:12.960 district on the planet is Venusville. Exactly. Did you notice, 1888 01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:14.439 by the way, that there was a Hilton When he 1889 01:57:14.479 --> 01:57:17.399 gets to Mars, he goes to the ritzy area and 1890 01:57:17.479 --> 01:57:19.479 he's in the Hilton. I just thought it was funny 1891 01:57:19.479 --> 01:57:24.439 that there's a there's a Hilton on Mars. And then 1892 01:57:24.479 --> 01:57:27.840 he has to eventually make his way over out of 1893 01:57:27.840 --> 01:57:32.680 the elite area to the poor mutant area. So there's 1894 01:57:32.720 --> 01:57:38.560 these people who have mutated from I guess Mars's atmosphere 1895 01:57:38.680 --> 01:57:41.560 being I don't know what, like radioactive or whatever. I 1896 01:57:41.560 --> 01:57:44.079 don't remember what the where the mutants come from? Where 1897 01:57:44.119 --> 01:57:44.640 the mutants? 1898 01:57:44.920 --> 01:57:46.800 He just said that, like he sealed the air and 1899 01:57:47.119 --> 01:57:49.520 all the children started turning to mutants and get them. 1900 01:57:50.319 --> 01:57:52.560 I don't think they explained it, just but the mutants 1901 01:57:52.600 --> 01:57:56.039 are psychic. They have they have they have developed psychic powers. 1902 01:57:56.119 --> 01:57:58.920 And of course greatest, greater than the psychic is the 1903 01:57:59.079 --> 01:58:02.000 third peat, the greatest of all sexuals. 1904 01:58:02.079 --> 01:58:03.079 That's the most important one. 1905 01:58:04.600 --> 01:58:06.279 Chick with the and by the way, all of her 1906 01:58:06.319 --> 01:58:09.680 teats looked fake, but that third one especially looked fake. 1907 01:58:09.760 --> 01:58:12.880 And she has two real faked its and then a 1908 01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:13.960 third fake. 1909 01:58:14.880 --> 01:58:17.000 And by the way, if you would like to contribute 1910 01:58:17.039 --> 01:58:20.560 to me and Jamie getting Jamie a third teat, there's 1911 01:58:20.600 --> 01:58:23.680 the super chats. I'll be putting it into a special 1912 01:58:23.760 --> 01:58:27.760 bitcoin hedge fund which will accumulate over time, and we'll 1913 01:58:27.800 --> 01:58:30.079 get Jamie that third teat that she needs and that 1914 01:58:30.159 --> 01:58:32.239 I want. So please donate. 1915 01:58:32.399 --> 01:58:34.399 You need, you need that, you deserve that. You you 1916 01:58:34.479 --> 01:58:35.880 work hard, You work really hard for this. 1917 01:58:38.199 --> 01:58:40.560 There's an all seeing eye in that sequence too, that 1918 01:58:40.720 --> 01:58:42.319 pops up. I want to note. 1919 01:58:45.920 --> 01:58:48.920 The girl was with she has pyramid with the eye 1920 01:58:48.960 --> 01:58:49.720 on them ear rings. 1921 01:58:51.159 --> 01:58:54.479 I saw that. I thought that was interesting. Yeah, like 1922 01:58:54.600 --> 01:58:56.640 the I noted that this was this is where it's 1923 01:58:56.680 --> 01:58:58.960 really getting, like the matrix. Arnold's like neo. 1924 01:59:03.399 --> 01:59:06.000 But you notice that well, I thought it was kind 1925 01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:08.439 of interesting that that with the Masonic floor, that kind 1926 01:59:08.479 --> 01:59:10.840 of free Masonic floor when they're in the red light 1927 01:59:10.880 --> 01:59:14.760 district in Venusville or Venus being you know Lucifer obviously, 1928 01:59:15.199 --> 01:59:19.079 but they from that spot they kind of transition into 1929 01:59:19.119 --> 01:59:23.520 the next stage. Of the mystery and the uh I 1930 01:59:23.560 --> 01:59:26.439 think it was the antagonist, the bad character, Coohagen, that's 1931 01:59:26.479 --> 01:59:30.359 his name. Cohagen jumps through the glass, jumps through the 1932 01:59:30.439 --> 01:59:35.520 looking glass, jumps through the window, and then it cuts 1933 01:59:35.560 --> 01:59:39.479 to Arnold and this chick. They find this underground chamber, right, 1934 01:59:39.520 --> 01:59:41.960 they find and they get into the area underneath. 1935 01:59:43.159 --> 01:59:43.680 Catacombs. 1936 01:59:43.720 --> 01:59:46.119 Yes, yes, so they go into the underworld and they 1937 01:59:46.279 --> 01:59:48.159 you know, they go and they seek out this esoteric 1938 01:59:48.319 --> 01:59:51.920 knowledge in the underworld, and the underworld is full of 1939 01:59:52.119 --> 01:59:58.680 an ancient remains of an ancient civilization. Yes, Pyramids of Mars, 1940 01:59:58.760 --> 02:00:03.319 which I mean back then in nineteen ninety people were 1941 02:00:03.359 --> 02:00:05.079 talking about the Pyramids on Mars. I think it was 1942 02:00:05.159 --> 02:00:06.960 like nineteen eight. When did those photos come out, the 1943 02:00:07.079 --> 02:00:08.039 first Pyramids on Mars. 1944 02:00:08.079 --> 02:00:10.640 Well, it's when Richard Hogland put out that book, and 1945 02:00:10.760 --> 02:00:12.199 that was about ninety ninety one. 1946 02:00:13.319 --> 02:00:15.960 Yeah, so, and I remember reading about this as a 1947 02:00:16.159 --> 02:00:17.960 really young kid, and this is kind of what first 1948 02:00:18.039 --> 02:00:19.600 got me interested in a lot of the you know, 1949 02:00:19.680 --> 02:00:21.880 all the alien stuff and what's up with these. 1950 02:00:21.800 --> 02:00:25.880 Period That's not a face. It's the stupidest conspiracy of 1951 02:00:25.920 --> 02:00:28.119 all time. That's stupid ass Shatow that is not like, 1952 02:00:28.239 --> 02:00:30.600 by the way, they had photoshop in nineteen ninety. So 1953 02:00:31.239 --> 02:00:34.359 just because there's this vague looking, stupid face on Mars 1954 02:00:34.439 --> 02:00:36.520 is what I mean. There's literally a pyramid on Mars. 1955 02:00:36.600 --> 02:00:37.840 That's the dumbest thing of all time. 1956 02:00:38.880 --> 02:00:40.680 Denying your your ancient ancestors. 1957 02:00:40.680 --> 02:00:43.479 I'm sorry, I don't believe in the Mars alien. 1958 02:00:43.720 --> 02:00:47.159 Your ancient aryan ancestors. We're living on Mars and had 1959 02:00:47.279 --> 02:00:51.760 they had a beautiful civilization. But yeah, I don't. I 1960 02:00:51.760 --> 02:00:53.039 don't know what people think about. 1961 02:00:53.079 --> 02:00:54.600 I was at a conference one time and a guy 1962 02:00:54.720 --> 02:00:58.239 gave a lecture on that Aliens were using nuclear war 1963 02:00:58.359 --> 02:01:01.279 on Mars, and so that's why Mars that's the atmosphere 1964 02:01:01.279 --> 02:01:03.079 it does because the Aliens had a new core there. 1965 02:01:03.119 --> 02:01:05.479 And by the way, that is in this this is 1966 02:01:05.560 --> 02:01:09.920 about the Aliens having nuclear technology, because what is the 1967 02:01:10.039 --> 02:01:12.840 alien tech and the pyramid. Oh, they figured out how 1968 02:01:12.880 --> 02:01:17.239 to lower these reactors into ice and then it creates I. 1969 02:01:17.319 --> 02:01:20.760 Love how Arnold just walks in and he's like, which 1970 02:01:20.800 --> 02:01:27.640 is the reactor and he knows it down it will 1971 02:01:27.680 --> 02:01:31.760 be oxygen for everybody. Arnold just walks in and he 1972 02:01:32.760 --> 02:01:35.640 exactly what this is. He reverse engineers the nuclear reactor 1973 02:01:35.920 --> 02:01:37.520 within seconds of witnessing it. 1974 02:01:37.720 --> 02:01:39.319 That's a great point. I didn't even think about how 1975 02:01:39.399 --> 02:01:41.800 stupid it was, Like, you have no idea what this 1976 02:01:42.039 --> 02:01:44.479 gigantic thing is, but Arnold just walks. 1977 02:01:44.279 --> 02:01:47.720 In, Oh, yeah, it's the reactors. Pushed the button, right, 1978 02:01:49.000 --> 02:01:50.479 you put your hand down, and. 1979 02:01:53.199 --> 02:01:57.439 Alien it's like push it down, and then the heater 1980 02:01:57.600 --> 02:02:03.760 comes on and now there's error, right, the conditioning of mos. Yeah. 1981 02:02:05.319 --> 02:02:08.319 So the yeah, so this this this it's a very 1982 02:02:08.319 --> 02:02:11.600 gnostic film, right, like the the Total the Elon Musk 1983 02:02:11.600 --> 02:02:16.159 Demiurge and the revolutionary movement is going to save the 1984 02:02:16.279 --> 02:02:19.680 planet and free all the slaves, and and Arnold of 1985 02:02:19.720 --> 02:02:20.199 course you. 1986 02:02:20.279 --> 02:02:23.359 Like in fact, I like the fact that they brought 1987 02:02:23.399 --> 02:02:27.399 that the Kohagen guy in and and he he layers 1988 02:02:27.560 --> 02:02:29.920 this the scam one more level, and he's like, oh, 1989 02:02:29.960 --> 02:02:31.880 you're actually a triple agent and you're working for me 1990 02:02:31.960 --> 02:02:33.800 all this time. Yeah. 1991 02:02:34.079 --> 02:02:36.199 Well, I mean there's another thing, like it's just we 1992 02:02:36.319 --> 02:02:39.239 fear in the involved in the world of espionage, those 1993 02:02:39.319 --> 02:02:42.800 type of tactics of you know, switching people and and 1994 02:02:42.960 --> 02:02:46.560 and just messing with their minds is it's pretty important. 1995 02:02:46.560 --> 02:02:48.399 I think, you know, what's a good film, The Good Shepherd. 1996 02:02:48.560 --> 02:02:49.239 You watched that one. 1997 02:02:49.319 --> 02:02:51.319 Oh, that's great. You know that's actually based on the 1998 02:02:51.399 --> 02:02:55.359 real loosely, the real origins of how the British came 1999 02:02:55.439 --> 02:02:56.560 and set up the os s. 2000 02:02:56.680 --> 02:03:00.840 Yeah, yes, exactly and Skull and Bones. You know, that 2001 02:03:00.960 --> 02:03:03.720 was directed by Robert de Niro. 2002 02:03:04.159 --> 02:03:06.680 Directed that the pyramids of Moss. 2003 02:03:09.920 --> 02:03:12.560 So that they go under the pp mids and inside 2004 02:03:12.560 --> 02:03:17.560 of the PP mids are a giant reactor and the reactor. 2005 02:03:17.880 --> 02:03:23.239 What's what the there you go, mos jay, do you 2006 02:03:23.319 --> 02:03:23.920 notice the. 2007 02:03:25.039 --> 02:03:27.800 Climate by turning the Moss act conditioning on? 2008 02:03:28.640 --> 02:03:30.760 Well, you notice in the poster there we show that 2009 02:03:30.800 --> 02:03:34.239 again because that's the the free Masonic compass right there. Yeah, 2010 02:03:34.880 --> 02:03:36.560 pyramid in the compass. 2011 02:03:36.600 --> 02:03:38.199 Then we see Arnold's single eye. 2012 02:03:39.159 --> 02:03:41.399 Yes, it's a super it's a very Masonic. 2013 02:03:41.039 --> 02:03:45.159 By the way, the pyramid, yes, yep. 2014 02:03:45.720 --> 02:03:47.960 So there there's a there's a lot of free Masonic 2015 02:03:48.000 --> 02:03:50.560 symbolism in that Venusville area. So there there's a free 2016 02:03:50.600 --> 02:03:53.359 Masonic checking checkerboard. And then when he goes, the hooker 2017 02:03:53.399 --> 02:03:55.439 brings him into the room and there's the pillar of 2018 02:03:56.279 --> 02:04:00.920 Jachim and Boaz on the side there. And then she's 2019 02:04:00.960 --> 02:04:03.079 got the pyramid ear rings with the eye in the 2020 02:04:03.119 --> 02:04:05.399 middle and there's three little dots hanging from them. So 2021 02:04:06.000 --> 02:04:07.920 a lot of the random stuff thrown in there. But 2022 02:04:08.079 --> 02:04:11.439 the concept of like the demiurge needing to be slain 2023 02:04:11.920 --> 02:04:15.119 and the mutants being freed so that they can live 2024 02:04:15.479 --> 02:04:17.680 happily ever after is. 2025 02:04:18.560 --> 02:04:23.279 Yeah, We've got these different arnolds that he could be, 2026 02:04:23.479 --> 02:04:26.720 these different aspects of his psyche, and he, at least 2027 02:04:26.760 --> 02:04:29.319 as far as we know, he really was the bad guy, 2028 02:04:29.800 --> 02:04:33.640 but actually the good Altar ended up taking over and 2029 02:04:33.760 --> 02:04:34.960 that's how we got the good end. 2030 02:04:35.720 --> 02:04:38.760 Yes, So yeah, that dualism idea. 2031 02:04:38.880 --> 02:04:41.880 Yeah, the hero is also the villain, but he takes 2032 02:04:41.960 --> 02:04:46.159 over and then we have this image of Mount sina 2033 02:04:46.279 --> 02:04:49.159 In't there like a giant mountain that like the mountain 2034 02:04:49.279 --> 02:04:52.359 is what becomes like the vapor, yeah, thing. 2035 02:04:52.600 --> 02:04:55.960 That's smoking and then throwing up the vapor and the terrorform. 2036 02:04:56.039 --> 02:04:58.039 So actually this is similar to Dune. So they then 2037 02:04:58.199 --> 02:05:02.199 terrorform Mars completely to have an atmosphere and to colonize it. 2038 02:05:02.359 --> 02:05:07.199 So yes, then I was wondering, just kind of out 2039 02:05:07.239 --> 02:05:11.720 of speculation at the end, do we know for sure 2040 02:05:11.840 --> 02:05:15.359 that that was I mean, is he in the matrix 2041 02:05:15.479 --> 02:05:17.920 still or are we supposed to be unclear? Or is 2042 02:05:18.000 --> 02:05:23.680 this Schwartzendinger's cat. Get it Schwarzendinger's cat, because is it? 2043 02:05:24.399 --> 02:05:24.840 Is it real? 2044 02:05:25.000 --> 02:05:26.000 Or is it in the Matrix? 2045 02:05:26.079 --> 02:05:28.720 Yes? I think, well, in classic Philip K. Dick's style, 2046 02:05:28.880 --> 02:05:31.399 you leave it open. Okay, Yeah, I don't know how 2047 02:05:31.439 --> 02:05:34.159 closely this follows the original short story, but it seems 2048 02:05:34.199 --> 02:05:36.000 to me in the end we're not supposed to know. 2049 02:05:36.159 --> 02:05:38.239 And if you wrap it up too tightly, you put 2050 02:05:38.239 --> 02:05:39.800 a little bow on it, it's not as fun, I 2051 02:05:39.840 --> 02:05:42.880 guess for the audience. So I think Hollywood likes to 2052 02:05:42.920 --> 02:05:45.560 leave it open ended like that. But remember the last line, 2053 02:05:45.640 --> 02:05:48.039 He's like, I just had a terrible thought. 2054 02:05:48.520 --> 02:05:49.600 What did this ease or do? 2055 02:05:50.680 --> 02:05:53.560 And then she's like, oh, you better kiss me before 2056 02:05:53.600 --> 02:05:56.439 you wake up, and then they make out and that's 2057 02:05:56.479 --> 02:05:57.760 the end roll credits. 2058 02:05:58.439 --> 02:06:01.920 By the way, people in the chat, was that story 2059 02:06:02.079 --> 02:06:05.880 the Matrix? Or was Arnold really the triple agent who 2060 02:06:06.319 --> 02:06:06.720 did all this? 2061 02:06:07.239 --> 02:06:07.560 I don't know. 2062 02:06:07.640 --> 02:06:09.800 You guys, tell me what you think. What is Paul 2063 02:06:09.880 --> 02:06:11.720 Verehoven and Arnold? What do they want us to think? 2064 02:06:13.439 --> 02:06:16.319 We've got a few super chats we'll read here. The 2065 02:06:16.439 --> 02:06:24.720 Pyramids of moss but gets the mos gets you as 2066 02:06:24.800 --> 02:06:27.520 the moth gets you as remember when the thing shorts 2067 02:06:27.560 --> 02:06:30.119 out and he keeps saying that good. 2068 02:06:31.920 --> 02:06:33.960 How about the red pill moment? Remember that he goes 2069 02:06:34.920 --> 02:06:39.439 brought up, I miss this. What is this? There's a 2070 02:06:39.920 --> 02:06:43.079 so he's I'm scrolling through right now. So he's having 2071 02:06:43.119 --> 02:06:47.640 this conversation with that fatuh petal looking dude, and the 2072 02:06:47.720 --> 02:06:50.840 guy's trying to confuse him and tell him basically, look 2073 02:06:50.920 --> 02:06:52.640 what you think is going on is not going on. 2074 02:06:54.119 --> 02:06:56.319 I'm gonna save you. I'm gonna help you. We need 2075 02:06:56.399 --> 02:06:58.800 you to wake up. If you take this pill, you 2076 02:06:58.920 --> 02:07:03.159 are going to wake up into the real reality. And 2077 02:07:03.279 --> 02:07:05.800 he gives him a red pill and Arnold puts it 2078 02:07:05.880 --> 02:07:08.359 in his mouth, and the guy's like, all right, man, 2079 02:07:08.520 --> 02:07:11.159 like swallow the pill. And then already zooms in and 2080 02:07:11.359 --> 02:07:14.439 there's the beat of sweat, and Arnold knows, because there's 2081 02:07:14.439 --> 02:07:15.439 a beat of sweat. 2082 02:07:15.439 --> 02:07:18.840 He's lying. Yeah, he's a lie. 2083 02:07:19.279 --> 02:07:20.600 He uses his his. 2084 02:07:21.000 --> 02:07:27.279 Biological what's it called the polygraph test and reads his 2085 02:07:27.359 --> 02:07:29.720 sweat and then he shoots him in the dome and 2086 02:07:29.840 --> 02:07:32.640 then throws the red pill on the guy's throat. And 2087 02:07:33.520 --> 02:07:37.920 I don't know what he says to him divorce. He 2088 02:07:37.960 --> 02:07:40.560 doesn't say that that's one of the best for sure. 2089 02:07:41.800 --> 02:07:45.239 I gotta I use that for a super chat notification. 2090 02:07:45.680 --> 02:07:49.760 By the way, in the chat, people were asking about 2091 02:07:49.840 --> 02:07:51.760 the show. Yes, so we did a full season of 2092 02:07:51.800 --> 02:07:54.720 a TV show called Hollywood Decoded. There is one free 2093 02:07:54.800 --> 02:07:57.079 episode that you can go watch. If you like that show. 2094 02:07:57.159 --> 02:07:59.399 By the way, go and tell Guya to do another 2095 02:07:59.680 --> 02:08:02.319 season so you can leave a comment there. That's the 2096 02:08:02.399 --> 02:08:05.319 free episode everybody can watch. And I loved it. It's 2097 02:08:05.319 --> 02:08:06.560 one of the funnest things I've ever done in my 2098 02:08:06.680 --> 02:08:08.640 life was to do that TV show. We had a 2099 02:08:08.680 --> 02:08:11.880 blast doing it. I wrote a whole other season two 2100 02:08:12.000 --> 02:08:14.319 and we never did it, so but it's there ready 2101 02:08:14.359 --> 02:08:16.239 to go. I think we had Total Recall on the 2102 02:08:16.319 --> 02:08:18.720 list to do. But yeah, you can go check out 2103 02:08:18.720 --> 02:08:22.079 those old episodes we got. Think we did nineteen full 2104 02:08:22.399 --> 02:08:25.680 production TV show episodes of Hollywood Decoded, and we did 2105 02:08:25.760 --> 02:08:29.159 do some James Cameron. I know we did Terminator. I 2106 02:08:29.199 --> 02:08:31.439 don't think we didn't do total Recall, but there's some 2107 02:08:31.560 --> 02:08:35.520 other gems on there. By the way, when you were 2108 02:08:35.600 --> 02:08:39.960 mentioning the studio or the apartment that they have and 2109 02:08:40.039 --> 02:08:42.880 at being small. Have you ever been on a set 2110 02:08:43.039 --> 02:08:45.279 or like done a studio tour like Warner Brothers tour 2111 02:08:45.359 --> 02:08:45.760 or anything. 2112 02:08:46.279 --> 02:08:49.159 Well, they're real open. Yeah, yeah, I've seen sets. They're 2113 02:08:49.239 --> 02:08:51.479 bigger than they look, actually very large. 2114 02:08:52.800 --> 02:08:55.560 Well it depends, but what like if you go to 2115 02:08:56.000 --> 02:08:59.359 Warner Brothers and take us a tour of their like 2116 02:08:59.439 --> 02:09:06.800 their daytime TV shows the people's apartments and uh like schoolroom, 2117 02:09:06.920 --> 02:09:10.520 classrooms or they're tiny, dude, they're really small. And like 2118 02:09:10.640 --> 02:09:13.640 when we were doing our show the set, you look, 2119 02:09:13.720 --> 02:09:16.079 it looks like there's this big audience hall that we're 2120 02:09:16.079 --> 02:09:19.800 in that was just a projection. Sets are small, dude. 2121 02:09:20.119 --> 02:09:22.840 Like really, it'll blow your mind. They look like you'll 2122 02:09:22.840 --> 02:09:24.399 feel like a midget if you do a tour of 2123 02:09:24.439 --> 02:09:25.479 a set, they're really small. 2124 02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:28.039 Speaking of her apartment, did you notice that she was 2125 02:09:28.079 --> 02:09:30.840 playing She was playing like Nintendo wee tennis. 2126 02:09:31.119 --> 02:09:34.199 And yeah, she had like a hologram we she was doing. 2127 02:09:34.560 --> 02:09:36.359 She was playing with the hologram. And that's that's the 2128 02:09:36.439 --> 02:09:38.600 only other that's the only other thing we see her 2129 02:09:38.680 --> 02:09:42.119 doing when she's not directly like Fear with Arnold is 2130 02:09:42.239 --> 02:09:46.600 playing with her fake friends video game hologram. So that 2131 02:09:46.720 --> 02:09:47.439 idea of VR. 2132 02:09:47.760 --> 02:09:50.479 You know the v that had Skype too. Do you 2133 02:09:50.520 --> 02:09:52.600 notice they were doing video teleconferencing. 2134 02:09:53.560 --> 02:09:56.640 Yeah, ye, Skype everywhere in cars and stuff too. 2135 02:09:58.079 --> 02:09:59.960 We'll do some of these super chats. We got shining 2136 02:10:00.159 --> 02:10:03.039 Diamond for three. No, Zach excise me exact way back 2137 02:10:03.039 --> 02:10:06.000 at the beginning, Zac says, for twenty, I'm stoked to 2138 02:10:06.119 --> 02:10:10.359 be here, stoked to be here. Maybe the angry vegans 2139 02:10:10.439 --> 02:10:14.520 need a good steak. Yes, they do, right, Although ironically 2140 02:10:14.880 --> 02:10:18.640 Arnold is a promoter of veganism. I highly doubt that 2141 02:10:18.720 --> 02:10:20.000 he's really vegan, but. 2142 02:10:20.479 --> 02:10:24.359 He says, he said, all my favorite I love it, 2143 02:10:24.520 --> 02:10:25.640 but I know I should not. 2144 02:10:26.000 --> 02:10:26.760 I shouldn't need it. 2145 02:10:28.000 --> 02:10:29.680 You know you do. 2146 02:10:32.039 --> 02:10:34.600 Or whatever you feel the guilty And then but no, 2147 02:10:34.720 --> 02:10:38.479 I have a little uh, I have a friend who's 2148 02:10:39.720 --> 02:10:42.239 a donkey, and to watch how I get the donkey 2149 02:10:42.399 --> 02:10:44.560 the the carrots. 2150 02:10:44.840 --> 02:10:47.239 Remember that video where he was feeding his donkey carrots 2151 02:10:47.279 --> 02:10:47.560 during the. 2152 02:10:47.600 --> 02:10:49.680 Corona and telling everybody to stay home and. 2153 02:10:50.359 --> 02:10:55.119 Me, stay home if you do it was completely dumb. 2154 02:10:56.439 --> 02:10:58.960 But yeah, so the vegans do need a stick Shining 2155 02:10:59.039 --> 02:11:01.920 diamond three dollars. Will you be doing an analysis of 2156 02:11:02.000 --> 02:11:05.760 the animated movie Ghosts in the Show and Akira. I 2157 02:11:06.560 --> 02:11:08.680 that was the only anime movie that I watched in 2158 02:11:08.720 --> 02:11:11.319 the nineties that I liked. It was it ninety mid 2159 02:11:11.399 --> 02:11:11.880 to late nine. 2160 02:11:11.960 --> 02:11:14.800 Yeah, Kira and Ghost of the Show The Shell was good. 2161 02:11:14.840 --> 02:11:16.960 I mean it had a lot of that same dystopian 2162 02:11:17.039 --> 02:11:18.720 blade runner my control type stuff. 2163 02:11:18.760 --> 02:11:20.479 Yeah, and you already did the book that you know 2164 02:11:20.600 --> 02:11:24.319 the title is referring to goes to the Machine Kessen. 2165 02:11:25.039 --> 02:11:30.119 Right, exactly. And I know people have requested Neon Genesis 2166 02:11:30.239 --> 02:11:32.720 Evangelium because it has a lot of esoteric stuff. So 2167 02:11:33.279 --> 02:11:35.039 I promise, what guys, one day I will get to it. 2168 02:11:35.159 --> 02:11:36.840 I just there's so many things. 2169 02:11:37.239 --> 02:11:39.079 When I was in the universe, we had a course 2170 02:11:39.239 --> 02:11:42.720 called Techno Thrillers and it was in the film The 2171 02:11:42.800 --> 02:11:45.600 Parliamentute took this part. It was a pretty decent course. 2172 02:11:46.039 --> 02:11:49.359 We we actually we watched Doctor Strange Love. What's the 2173 02:11:49.399 --> 02:11:51.600 other one that came out the same year as Doctor Strangelove, 2174 02:11:51.680 --> 02:11:54.399 But wasn't Doctor Strange Love. It was more of a 2175 02:11:54.520 --> 02:11:59.479 serious version of the Doctor Strange Love story. Somebody in 2176 02:11:59.479 --> 02:12:03.920 the audience might know, No, it's not Kubrick. It's like 2177 02:12:04.000 --> 02:12:06.800 fail Safe for something. It was called fail Safe. 2178 02:12:06.680 --> 02:12:09.640 Oh, where they have like a big computer that it's 2179 02:12:09.680 --> 02:12:13.720 like an AI computer. Yeah, I've seen it's boring. 2180 02:12:13.800 --> 02:12:15.760 It's like it's like Strangelove, but it's not as good. 2181 02:12:16.920 --> 02:12:20.479 So we watched that. We watched the Will Smith movie 2182 02:12:21.000 --> 02:12:23.880 Enemy of the State, and then also Ghost in Michelle 2183 02:12:24.199 --> 02:12:27.439 and north By Northwest. 2184 02:12:28.800 --> 02:12:29.079 Speak. 2185 02:12:29.199 --> 02:12:34.039 Anyways, the instructor was was pretty based for for that time, 2186 02:12:34.119 --> 02:12:36.479 you know. This was two thousand and six or seven, 2187 02:12:36.640 --> 02:12:40.880 I think, and he was really harping on about this 2188 02:12:40.960 --> 02:12:43.279 whole technocracy thing that we see coming on now and 2189 02:12:43.359 --> 02:12:46.279 all the films. We watched Blade Runner as well, but 2190 02:12:46.439 --> 02:12:49.960 all the films were very similar to the stuff we're 2191 02:12:50.000 --> 02:12:53.039 talking about here. So yeah, shout out to I forget 2192 02:12:53.039 --> 02:12:53.920 the professor's name. 2193 02:12:54.359 --> 02:12:56.079 Have you seen the Demon Seed. 2194 02:12:58.600 --> 02:13:01.439 I've foreseen that like screenshots or something. 2195 02:13:01.479 --> 02:13:04.319 I did a ten minute funny breakdown of it that 2196 02:13:04.920 --> 02:13:06.840 Oh that's what I saw. I saw your videos. It's 2197 02:13:06.880 --> 02:13:09.920 worth watching. It's actually an AI that kind of wants 2198 02:13:10.000 --> 02:13:15.600 to incarnate the antichristis pretty wild, okay, and it's funny. 2199 02:13:15.640 --> 02:13:17.720 It's like one of those you know, funny Arnold. 2200 02:13:17.840 --> 02:13:19.600 Is it like End of Days or something. I don't 2201 02:13:19.600 --> 02:13:20.439 think I watched that one. 2202 02:13:20.600 --> 02:13:22.560 I know he did End of Days is another Arnold 2203 02:13:22.800 --> 02:13:28.760 like hoot. It's a hoot, He's like, it's basically Arnold 2204 02:13:28.800 --> 02:13:30.319 beating the devil. It's ridiculous. 2205 02:13:30.920 --> 02:13:34.680 There's something that like Arnold early nineties Arnold and eighties 2206 02:13:34.720 --> 02:13:36.960 Arnold is always futter to watch. There's just something that's 2207 02:13:37.000 --> 02:13:40.439 like funered, like when he's just freakishly jacked. I don't know, 2208 02:13:40.600 --> 02:13:43.640 but later on Arnold when he when he when he deflates, 2209 02:13:43.720 --> 02:13:46.359 for some reason, it's not as entertaining when he isn't 2210 02:13:46.439 --> 02:13:47.800 like a freaking free. 2211 02:13:47.920 --> 02:13:52.279 Low energy on a low energy when he deflates, he's 2212 02:13:52.359 --> 02:13:56.760 low low energy. Uh or yeah, all. 2213 02:13:59.000 --> 02:14:00.439 I doesn't done anything a while. 2214 02:14:01.560 --> 02:14:04.680 No, that last Terminator was awful. He was He played 2215 02:14:05.119 --> 02:14:09.640 Carl the Cuck who was a blind like you sold blinds. 2216 02:14:10.279 --> 02:14:13.319 Yeah, you know, somebody mentioned one of the best mind 2217 02:14:13.359 --> 02:14:14.800 control movies this Zolander. 2218 02:14:15.920 --> 02:14:18.039 Yes, I need to add that to the I got 2219 02:14:18.079 --> 02:14:20.239 a list of about thirty mind controls to do. 2220 02:14:20.399 --> 02:14:23.000 I'd say that Zoolander is probably one of my favorite 2221 02:14:23.039 --> 02:14:26.239 stupid comedy movies. As like a kid, I think I 2222 02:14:26.319 --> 02:14:28.880 was like thirteen fourteen when I came out fifteen. 2223 02:14:30.840 --> 02:14:34.880 I have natural I have resting faced blue steel yeah, you. 2224 02:14:34.960 --> 02:14:38.359 Do, you do? I just I love what Hansel when 2225 02:14:38.359 --> 02:14:43.039 he's telling his story about Peote, he's telling his trip report. Yeah, 2226 02:14:44.479 --> 02:14:47.319 then I realized I've never even been the Mount Vesuvius. 2227 02:14:49.880 --> 02:14:51.039 I found myself falling. 2228 02:14:51.800 --> 02:14:51.920 Ah. 2229 02:14:52.000 --> 02:14:55.960 Yeah, did you see the second Zoolander? Yeah? 2230 02:14:56.000 --> 02:14:56.920 I actually thought it was good. 2231 02:14:57.439 --> 02:14:59.319 It was pretty funny, and it was it wasn't. 2232 02:14:59.239 --> 02:15:02.439 And I had the the whole like Hollywood MK ultra 2233 02:15:03.239 --> 02:15:04.199 satanic cult. 2234 02:15:04.680 --> 02:15:06.920 Yes, yeah, and Kyle Mooney was in it, who used 2235 02:15:06.920 --> 02:15:09.239 to be really funny until Saturday and at Night Live 2236 02:15:09.359 --> 02:15:12.840 destroyed his career. Him and Beck Bennett were freaking hilarious 2237 02:15:12.880 --> 02:15:14.760 due they were like the original YouTube comedy. 2238 02:15:15.239 --> 02:15:22.239 Yeah, inside so inside, so exactly inside his skits man 2239 02:15:22.319 --> 02:15:24.439 and then his stoner skits where he's like he's like 2240 02:15:24.479 --> 02:15:25.520 a pothead pothead. 2241 02:15:25.560 --> 02:15:26.600 He's always talking about weed. 2242 02:15:26.680 --> 02:15:29.159 Yeah but he's but he doesn't really smoke weed, and 2243 02:15:29.279 --> 02:15:31.560 he just tries to act like he's cool. And that's 2244 02:15:31.680 --> 02:15:34.079 those skits are so funny. And then sn L got 2245 02:15:34.119 --> 02:15:36.119 ahold of him and ruined his career. And what is 2246 02:15:36.159 --> 02:15:36.680 he doing now? 2247 02:15:38.720 --> 02:15:41.960 I mean, I'm there are some of his skits on 2248 02:15:42.119 --> 02:15:45.760 SNL that are good. They're not all five years. 2249 02:15:46.239 --> 02:15:49.640 Beck Bennett was funny too, but they just got him. 2250 02:15:49.640 --> 02:15:51.800 They just made him play putin and with his shirt off, 2251 02:15:51.880 --> 02:15:52.319 and that's. 2252 02:15:53.760 --> 02:15:55.880 All right. So the next next to our chat is 2253 02:15:56.079 --> 02:16:00.720 uh in Jesus, Christ In Christ, Our Lord twenty dollars. 2254 02:16:01.159 --> 02:16:07.199 Great work for you to question. For Little Aids, what 2255 02:16:07.279 --> 02:16:09.840 are some of the Orthodox books that you've read, Little Aids? 2256 02:16:10.279 --> 02:16:14.439 And for both of you, out of ten, how would 2257 02:16:14.479 --> 02:16:16.279 you rate both these movies? The first question to you, 2258 02:16:16.439 --> 02:16:18.760 Tristan is what are some of the Orthodox books that 2259 02:16:18.800 --> 02:16:20.720 you read that you liked? All right? 2260 02:16:22.520 --> 02:16:28.520 You right here recommend well. I haven't read every page 2261 02:16:28.520 --> 02:16:32.920 of Saint John of Damascus, but Sat John Damascus very good, 2262 02:16:33.799 --> 02:16:36.479 the Seraph and Rose. The first one I read was 2263 02:16:36.879 --> 02:16:39.079 God's Revelation with Human Heart, and then after that I 2264 02:16:39.200 --> 02:16:42.760 read Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future, and then Genesis, 2265 02:16:42.799 --> 02:16:45.440 Creation and Early Man and that was what convinced me 2266 02:16:45.799 --> 02:16:48.600 essentially to become Orthodox. So I read those and then 2267 02:16:48.680 --> 02:16:56.719 also Orthodox Dogmatic theology is another good one. What was 2268 02:16:56.760 --> 02:16:59.920 the book that father off I'll give us about Wounded 2269 02:17:00.120 --> 02:17:03.120 by Love? Wounded by Love is a really good one. 2270 02:17:04.360 --> 02:17:06.840 Jessica and the kids have read, but I didn't read 2271 02:17:06.879 --> 02:17:13.319 it with them, Saint John the Wonder Worker, those all recommended. 2272 02:17:14.680 --> 02:17:18.079 Else Yeah, no, there's nothing that I well, some of 2273 02:17:18.120 --> 02:17:26.040 them are, say Maximus the Confessor was a little bit 2274 02:17:27.079 --> 02:17:29.399 like heavier and a little bit more difficult. But I 2275 02:17:29.680 --> 02:17:32.879 really enjoyed that. And then also there's another one Loski. 2276 02:17:33.159 --> 02:17:35.520 It was the Lostky book, two Lostky books, and both 2277 02:17:35.559 --> 02:17:40.719 of those three Mystical Theology of the of the Eastern Church. 2278 02:17:40.840 --> 02:17:44.360 That was Mystical Theology the Church. You know, those were good. 2279 02:17:44.360 --> 02:17:46.159 Those are heavy. I read them about a year and 2280 02:17:46.159 --> 02:17:46.559 a half ago. 2281 02:17:46.680 --> 02:17:47.120 There they are. 2282 02:17:47.239 --> 02:17:49.440 Yeah. So that that book right there took me about 2283 02:17:49.440 --> 02:17:51.680 a month to read because there was just so much. 2284 02:17:51.680 --> 02:17:53.520 I had to do more research while I was reading 2285 02:17:53.600 --> 02:17:55.520 it to catch up on some of the themes. But 2286 02:17:55.639 --> 02:17:58.079 that that cleared up a lot for me. But I 2287 02:17:58.159 --> 02:17:59.959 mean I can't I couldn't sit here and summarize it 2288 02:18:00.079 --> 02:18:02.040 for you because it was a year and a half. 2289 02:18:02.040 --> 02:18:03.799 I know that I read its cool. 2290 02:18:04.399 --> 02:18:06.559 So on on a one to ten scale, what do 2291 02:18:06.639 --> 02:18:09.680 you give Jacob's ladder and total recall? 2292 02:18:10.840 --> 02:18:15.719 Jacobs ladder one to ten, I give it like six 2293 02:18:15.799 --> 02:18:21.840 and a half d mt hits total recall, I give 2294 02:18:21.920 --> 02:18:26.040 it nine out of ten Sharon Stone kicks to Arnold 2295 02:18:26.040 --> 02:18:27.399 Schwarzenegger's Testy Cows. 2296 02:18:31.319 --> 02:18:33.479 I would give both movies a seven. I'm going to 2297 02:18:33.520 --> 02:18:36.840 say they're both seven. They're different. They both have similar 2298 02:18:36.920 --> 02:18:39.479 themes with the mind control and psyche and all that. 2299 02:18:39.680 --> 02:18:42.559 But when I give Total Recall a nine, it's not 2300 02:18:42.760 --> 02:18:45.680 like it's a great film. It's just so entertaining and stupid. 2301 02:18:46.040 --> 02:18:49.239 Yeah, just as the film overall, it gets a seven. 2302 02:18:49.399 --> 02:18:52.159 But for entertainment, I would agree with Tristan that it's 2303 02:18:52.200 --> 02:18:53.120 a nine. It's a hoot. 2304 02:18:54.040 --> 02:18:56.000 You can rewatch it and laugh. It's like a good 2305 02:18:56.040 --> 02:18:57.440 movie if you, I don't know, it's just if you 2306 02:18:57.479 --> 02:18:59.719 want to laugh with some friends. It's a great movie. 2307 02:19:00.040 --> 02:19:02.840 Jacob's latter is not a movie you're gonna rewatch it. 2308 02:19:03.120 --> 02:19:06.920 It's not a fun movie. Alt Monarchists for two dollars 2309 02:19:07.399 --> 02:19:10.559 review Stalker. Yes, I know I gotta do Tarkowski. I 2310 02:19:10.639 --> 02:19:12.840 actually wrote a bunch of notes on Rubelov and then 2311 02:19:12.879 --> 02:19:15.639 I got to where I was about to do Stalker 2312 02:19:15.680 --> 02:19:17.879 and something happened. So I apologize. I know that that 2313 02:19:18.440 --> 02:19:22.440 I'm really slacking by not doing that, But we will eventually. 2314 02:19:22.600 --> 02:19:25.399 Just like the other requests, there are some big ones 2315 02:19:25.440 --> 02:19:30.040 I've not done. I know it's a big empty spot 2316 02:19:30.159 --> 02:19:35.079 in my film repertoire Jerry Jerry Dingis. We got the 2317 02:19:37.120 --> 02:19:42.520 mister dingas here, biggots and nerds, a match made in 2318 02:19:43.040 --> 02:19:46.159 on Tick Wilderness. We do live in an ontic wilderness 2319 02:19:46.200 --> 02:19:48.600 and this is a match made in the heaven of 2320 02:19:48.719 --> 02:19:52.319 on Tick Wilderness. That's the biggots together with the nerds. Absolutely, 2321 02:19:52.760 --> 02:19:53.879 there's a lot of overlap. 2322 02:19:54.319 --> 02:19:56.000 I think there's a lot more nerds right now than 2323 02:19:56.000 --> 02:19:58.559 I gotta see up four hundred and thirty eight. Every 2324 02:19:58.559 --> 02:19:59.879 once in a while we'll pull in four to thirty, 2325 02:20:00.120 --> 02:20:01.760 but only if there's someone else coming on a street. 2326 02:20:01.799 --> 02:20:04.040 We're in the we're in that two hundred range, and 2327 02:20:04.479 --> 02:20:06.479 YouTube's trying to get us in the zero range as 2328 02:20:06.520 --> 02:20:07.239 soon as possible. 2329 02:20:08.680 --> 02:20:11.520 Everybody be sure that, yeah, go support Tristan. Subscribe if 2330 02:20:11.559 --> 02:20:13.879 you're not over subscribed, over at a problem Edge. I've 2331 02:20:13.920 --> 02:20:16.520 got his link there in the show description, So be 2332 02:20:16.600 --> 02:20:21.200 sure and hook up with Tristan. Bounteous no Jack Jack 2333 02:20:21.319 --> 02:20:24.520 for three dollars says, if I can affect the way 2334 02:20:24.639 --> 02:20:27.559 people think and feel by what I think and feel, 2335 02:20:27.840 --> 02:20:30.479 is it because of demons? Do I need to see 2336 02:20:30.520 --> 02:20:36.120 a priest or do prayers often? No, I mean you 2337 02:20:36.200 --> 02:20:39.680 could just have a persuasive personality that affects the way 2338 02:20:39.799 --> 02:20:42.639 people think and feel that doesn't necessarily have to be demonic. 2339 02:20:43.920 --> 02:20:47.280 Do I need to see a priest or do prayers often? 2340 02:20:48.079 --> 02:20:52.559 I would say, do both. How's that Bounteous an Orthodox 2341 02:20:52.600 --> 02:20:53.360 priest not. 2342 02:20:53.360 --> 02:20:55.319 A Roman Bunant priest anyways. 2343 02:20:55.079 --> 02:20:58.559 Not a Roman priest An orthodoxers Bounteous five dollars. Did 2344 02:20:58.680 --> 02:21:01.079 you notice the red pill? Yes? Thank you. Tristan brought 2345 02:21:01.159 --> 02:21:05.200 up the red pill that the recall guy offers to Arnie. 2346 02:21:05.280 --> 02:21:09.479 Carnivore alliance six fifty one of Tristan's biggots in the chat. 2347 02:21:09.719 --> 02:21:14.559 Maybe off topic, but picnic and hanging rock. I think 2348 02:21:15.959 --> 02:21:20.920 the secret to it is some carnivorous plant hermaphrodite venus 2349 02:21:21.040 --> 02:21:23.639 satan ufo. Okay, did you lost me? 2350 02:21:23.719 --> 02:21:23.879 There? 2351 02:21:23.959 --> 02:21:24.760 He went offensive. 2352 02:21:24.799 --> 02:21:31.239 The carnivore alliance is always coming with the the like like, 2353 02:21:31.280 --> 02:21:32.719 what did they call that back in the day that 2354 02:21:32.760 --> 02:21:33.159 remember that. 2355 02:21:33.280 --> 02:21:35.360 Channel is the stream of consciousness. 2356 02:21:35.399 --> 02:21:40.120 Streamline, syncralstic, remember those channels twostic? 2357 02:21:40.239 --> 02:21:42.479 Yes, Lauren Cobleman, the synchro mystic. 2358 02:21:42.559 --> 02:21:47.120 Yep, yeah, he's kind of like like that. He's when 2359 02:21:47.159 --> 02:21:49.520 you talk to him, he's more coherent, but he likes 2360 02:21:49.600 --> 02:21:52.639 to uh. He goes into the I think I think 2361 02:21:52.680 --> 02:21:53.920 it's got a while to mate. 2362 02:21:53.639 --> 02:21:55.799 The stream of consciousness going on in the chat, So 2363 02:21:56.000 --> 02:21:58.719 we welcome that. You can. You can send six dollars 2364 02:21:58.799 --> 02:22:01.200 fifty stream of consci all day long. I will listen. 2365 02:22:01.840 --> 02:22:04.719 Janie Sophia twenty dos the movie he says, He says, 2366 02:22:04.719 --> 02:22:07.280 Picnic can hang your rocks the movie Okay, I got 2367 02:22:07.319 --> 02:22:08.159 that actually just. 2368 02:22:08.159 --> 02:22:11.000 The rest of it where I was lost. But Janie 2369 02:22:11.079 --> 02:22:14.040 Sophia twenty dollars. Apologies if you've already covered this, but 2370 02:22:14.239 --> 02:22:18.399 Jacob's Ladder had toll House. Yes, we covered Soul after 2371 02:22:18.479 --> 02:22:21.600 Death the Surf and Rose book in relation to Jacobs 2372 02:22:22.639 --> 02:22:24.479 along the right track there, Jennie. 2373 02:22:24.879 --> 02:22:26.920 To the person who asked, I also read that book, 2374 02:22:26.920 --> 02:22:28.479 and I would recommend that one too. That's a really 2375 02:22:28.520 --> 02:22:31.120 good one. I recommended that to several people. I think 2376 02:22:31.159 --> 02:22:32.280 it's very useful. 2377 02:22:32.399 --> 02:22:34.879 And thank you for that fat super chat twenty whole bucks. 2378 02:22:36.280 --> 02:22:39.079 Appreciate that. Dell Bridge for five dollars. Jay and Tristan, 2379 02:22:39.159 --> 02:22:41.399 how are you? I'm great? How are you do? 2380 02:22:43.600 --> 02:22:43.959 I'm better? 2381 02:22:44.040 --> 02:22:48.319 Than Jay. Is it possible that you could better at 2382 02:22:48.440 --> 02:22:51.000 being worse? Yes, you are better at being worse than 2383 02:22:51.040 --> 02:22:54.520 me totally. Is it possible that both of you could 2384 02:22:54.719 --> 02:23:01.879 review Kurt Vonnegut's Harrison berger And film and In and 2385 02:23:02.159 --> 02:23:04.239 In Time starring justin Wait. 2386 02:23:05.520 --> 02:23:07.200 Oh, you told me what you told me last night 2387 02:23:07.399 --> 02:23:09.840 to watch that in Time Justin Timberlain. 2388 02:23:09.879 --> 02:23:13.639 Well, I've seen In Time with Amber Amanda Seyfried and 2389 02:23:14.000 --> 02:23:17.879 Justin Timberlake. That's a good dystopian movie. But Kurt Vonnegut's 2390 02:23:17.920 --> 02:23:22.520 Harrison Bergeran film, Okay, now I'm not familiar with that one. 2391 02:23:22.680 --> 02:23:24.760 In Time is good. It is a dystopia that you 2392 02:23:24.799 --> 02:23:27.760 could do and announces of Yes, lastly, God bless both 2393 02:23:27.760 --> 02:23:30.239 of you. Well, thank you, Dell Bridge much appreciate it. Wet. 2394 02:23:30.760 --> 02:23:34.319 What a total spas all right, speaking of nineteen nineties, 2395 02:23:35.000 --> 02:23:37.479 I mean, these are two nineties movies. That's a great 2396 02:23:37.600 --> 02:23:43.000 nineties slang. It's such as spas. Why are you such 2397 02:23:43.000 --> 02:23:45.719 as spazd We should do a Holly Schorn That was 2398 02:23:45.760 --> 02:23:48.239 the nineties spurg is a spas. 2399 02:23:50.079 --> 02:23:52.639 Right, spaz for sure? 2400 02:23:52.760 --> 02:23:56.879 Yeah. The nineties version of a Sperg nowadays was a spas. 2401 02:23:57.440 --> 02:24:03.959 Absolutely anyway, insight. Hey, I appreciate that I just wrote 2402 02:24:04.000 --> 02:24:04.799 that down. Thank you. 2403 02:24:05.920 --> 02:24:10.600 Well, I fooled those. So keep a notebook handy because 2404 02:24:10.639 --> 02:24:12.360 you can just transcribe for me. You can be a 2405 02:24:12.360 --> 02:24:14.840 little secretary. That's work for you. 2406 02:24:15.280 --> 02:24:17.600 I'd be honored to be your little secretary. I really 2407 02:24:17.680 --> 02:24:19.360 like the way you said that. It makes me feel 2408 02:24:19.479 --> 02:24:21.680 very little aids, little. 2409 02:24:23.040 --> 02:24:28.120 Aids, little secretary. You could just transcribe the proverbs all 2410 02:24:28.200 --> 02:24:33.639 day long. All Right, we're having fun. But his name 2411 02:24:33.840 --> 02:24:37.639 is Tristan and he is the head honcho over at 2412 02:24:38.200 --> 02:24:40.959 vegan Alliance dot com. Just kidding, the head honchho over 2413 02:24:41.120 --> 02:24:45.159 at Primal Edge Health. You can follow him by clicking 2414 02:24:45.280 --> 02:24:47.799 the channel in the show description that is called Primal 2415 02:24:47.879 --> 02:24:50.879 Edge Health. And he would love to have you. He's 2416 02:24:50.879 --> 02:24:53.200 been doing some really funny streams. He's doing a call 2417 02:24:53.280 --> 02:24:54.799 in thing. I want to ask you. I tried the 2418 02:24:54.840 --> 02:24:56.479 calling thing a couple of times. That kind of got 2419 02:24:56.520 --> 02:24:58.479 on my nerves. Are you having fun with Collins? 2420 02:24:59.120 --> 02:24:59.479 I love it. 2421 02:24:59.479 --> 02:25:00.000 That's my favorite. 2422 02:25:01.799 --> 02:25:02.040 I did. 2423 02:25:02.120 --> 02:25:04.159 I did Collins like a few years back when YouTube 2424 02:25:04.239 --> 02:25:07.120 first came out, but it was like I was more careful. 2425 02:25:07.200 --> 02:25:09.719 But now, yeah, I just I open up the open 2426 02:25:09.799 --> 02:25:11.399 up the zoom and it's fun. 2427 02:25:11.479 --> 02:25:11.639 Man. 2428 02:25:11.719 --> 02:25:14.319 I mean we get friendlies like I don't know. I 2429 02:25:14.680 --> 02:25:16.520 just like talking to people. Man, I can talk to anybody. 2430 02:25:16.680 --> 02:25:20.200 I ain't talk to anyone, So I invite any anybody 2431 02:25:20.239 --> 02:25:21.920 if you don't, if you want to chat, or if 2432 02:25:21.920 --> 02:25:24.040 you just want a debate. I keep trying to get 2433 02:25:24.079 --> 02:25:26.200 these vegans to come and debate, but none of them will. 2434 02:25:26.479 --> 02:25:31.399 Because you're just going to go slow and mutus. 2435 02:25:32.879 --> 02:25:35.120 I mean, she's either welcome to calling, but she won't. 2436 02:25:35.719 --> 02:25:38.280 These people, they like to throw their stones from the distance. 2437 02:25:38.879 --> 02:25:39.040 Jay. 2438 02:25:39.079 --> 02:25:40.680 Before we at the end, I wanted to ask you, 2439 02:25:40.760 --> 02:25:45.920 have you gotten this book yet? No? 2440 02:25:46.159 --> 02:25:47.520 Everybody saw need to get it though. 2441 02:25:48.760 --> 02:25:53.120 I'll send you that's classes new book just published, like 2442 02:25:53.239 --> 02:25:56.200 last or two months ago, maybe the Great RECOVID nineteen, 2443 02:25:56.280 --> 02:25:58.840 the Great Reset. I'll send you the PDF. 2444 02:26:00.239 --> 02:26:00.959 Yeah, I check. 2445 02:26:01.559 --> 02:26:03.959 It's very blatant. Okay, Yeah, so it's. 2446 02:26:03.879 --> 02:26:07.079 Gonna tell us the whole spiel. We got another super 2447 02:26:07.120 --> 02:26:10.879 chat three dollars from Julio. He says, chain Link Crypto 2448 02:26:11.040 --> 02:26:13.000 is to the Moon. I'll have to check that out. 2449 02:26:13.079 --> 02:26:15.200 But except I don't want to go to the moon. 2450 02:26:15.639 --> 02:26:16.799 I want to go to Mas. 2451 02:26:17.479 --> 02:26:20.600 Good to Crypto to Mas. We don't want to go 2452 02:26:20.600 --> 02:26:21.000 to the moon. 2453 02:26:21.799 --> 02:26:23.559 You know, it's like the only three planets I mentioned 2454 02:26:23.680 --> 02:26:29.159 was Mars, Venus and Saturn. In they kept saying you 2455 02:26:29.159 --> 02:26:30.760 should go to Saturn instead Saturn. 2456 02:26:30.920 --> 02:26:33.040 Oh yeah, I had a Saturn note. Good point. Thank 2457 02:26:33.079 --> 02:26:36.120 you forgot that. All right, everybody, have a good night. 2458 02:26:36.200 --> 02:26:38.120 I hope you enjoyed tonight's show. Be sure and like it, 2459 02:26:38.280 --> 02:26:41.200 share it, tell a comment below if I missed anything. 2460 02:26:41.280 --> 02:26:45.440 We always have good comments from the movie audience telling 2461 02:26:45.520 --> 02:26:49.239 me the details that I missed. And we look forward 2462 02:26:49.280 --> 02:26:51.840 to the next stream. We'll be doing some psycho hot 2463 02:26:51.879 --> 02:26:54.600 stuff and I'll be doing more spooktober. I'm sure Tristan 2464 02:26:54.600 --> 02:26:56.319 and I can come up with some more mind control 2465 02:26:56.840 --> 02:26:57.280 and spook. 2466 02:26:57.399 --> 02:26:59.760 We've got clockwork Orange on the list. I mean, we 2467 02:27:00.000 --> 02:27:05.639 mentioned also that Philip K. Dick one Scanner Darkly, a 2468 02:27:05.680 --> 02:27:06.879 Lone Skanner Darkly. 2469 02:27:07.280 --> 02:27:10.760 We'll do some more m ks for sure. All have 2470 02:27:10.840 --> 02:27:11.159 a good night. 2471 02:27:12.079 --> 02:27:13.840 Well maybe maybe Jay you can come on and we 2472 02:27:13.879 --> 02:27:14.120 can do