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already has. Thank you so much. I want to welcome

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everyone back to the pe Canona Show. You know, it's

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been a wat since you've been on the show, rad Hawk,

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but it seems like we like work on a show

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together all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like the co host of the Pony Express streams.

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I was trying to remember when the last time actually

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wasn't your channel proper. It has to have been a

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couple of years now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's twenty twenty two, I think, and the well

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it is because we were in so much contact. I

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guess we don't even really think about it and everything.

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And plus we record once a week. But yesterday I

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had the I had the duty of trying to fill

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in for you. Yeah, please don't miss any other weeks

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because yeah, it's yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, you guys, you guys did a good job filling

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in for me. As we're recording. This is the day

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after the hurricane. So the reports of my death have

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been greatly exaggerated.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I wonder who was reporting your death. That guy.

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That guy's an asshole.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So so as it go, and you're you're, you're you

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live through you experienced your first hurricane.

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Speaker 2: Now I know, Pop my cherry. Uh you know it

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was Uh it wasn't too bad. I was fortunate enough

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to be like just one mile away from where all

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the major flooding was and uh, you know, it wasn't horrible.

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I'm sure I'm going to read a bunch of news

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reports this week about how climate change is existential threat

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to our survival and this is why we have record

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level hurricanes and such.

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Speaker 1: But whatever, Yeah, the I went through a bunch because

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I lived down there for a long time and I

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actually went through Hurricane Andrew, and where I lived at

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the time was that's where Andrew was headed. And at

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the at the last minute it turned and went south

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down to uh down in Miami. So we got spared.

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We still didn't have power for a while at some

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broken windows, had some down trees, but it wasn't like

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the Third World like I mean, the next day, I

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went to a restaurant because we didn't have power, went

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kind of restaurant that had power. Was looking on TV

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and I'm like, oh, what did they have an earthquake

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in the Third World? Oh no, that's Miami. Yeah it was. Yeah,

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that was that was pretty wild.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, and then just today it was clear blue

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skies and I went to the gym and went to

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the grocery store. Power came back on. It's you know,

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aside from a bunch of down branches on the streets everywhere.

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Says if like, nothing really happened in my area.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one good thing about after a hurricane

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is you can't get some really good weather.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, hey, people may think that we're just talking,

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you know, a little small talk here and everything. One

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of the things we did want to talk about was

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the environment. And you know why caring about the environment

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and caring about conservation and caring about the outdoors isn't gay.

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It's just that a bunch of gay people made it gay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean a lot of people. But in

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our thing have been making the similar connection to the

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overall like general well being of health and fitness U

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sphere has basically just been completely surrendered to our guys

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at this point. And so you know, anytime you see

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like a fitness guy or a guy who's talking about

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health or testosterone or seed oils or plastics in the

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food or whatever, you know, whatever some ject related to that,

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it's just one of our guys at this point. And

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the environment conservation is another one of these issues that

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is ripe for attack from our guys right now because

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basically what the left has done is limited every single

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discussion on the issue to some form of climate change,

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which is just this amorphis catch all term that means

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that we have to give a billion dollars to Bill

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in the next ten years. And this has just been

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proven false time and time again ever since. Like I mean,

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people point back to, you know, things like the nineteen

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seventies and the eighties when they were predicting the next

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ice age. They're predicting we're run out of food. You

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have Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth that came out in the

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early two thousands, and he predicted that the sea level

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was going to rise and take out Miami in twenty twelve,

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so where all these predictions that people are having, and

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you know, it's just right for us to take over

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at this point because it's just run by a bunch

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting you mentioned all the health stuff and everything.

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a great tweet where he's like, the future is far

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right guys with crunchy wives.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Slaughter is a smart guy. It's probably correct.

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Speaker 1: So I know that from someone I was I talked

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to a few years ago. He was big into the

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into activism, climate activism, like in the late eighties, and

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he said he was like, really the only lefty that

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was out there like pouring sugar in the gas tanks

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of like logging companies things, and you know taking out

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you know, taking out their vehicles so that they wouldn't

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just take down these whole forests because they weren't planning

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on replacing them. You know, they were just gonna they

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were just it was just basic deforestation for deforestation's sake.

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there with were like a R slinging right wingers who

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were like, yeah, this this, we can't let this happen.

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change thing becoming commercialized, becoming something that someone can make

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money off of, that just it for some reason that

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fell into the left. And now al Gore has gone

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from Yeah, I mean he's he's made well into the

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hundreds of millions through climate activism.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and what is he actually produced from it either?

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I mean there's arguments to be made about, you know,

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finding alternative sources to energy and such like that, doing research,

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but all these clowns have nothing to show for their activism.

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It's just money laundering at this point. And back to

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what I was mentioning about, how this whole scene has

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just been taking over by crazy loons, whether it's your

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Gretitunebergs of the world or amazingly, we don't really have

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these here in the States yet, but no doubt they're coming.

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these like just stop oil people who are like spray

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painting Stonehenge or throwing cans of soup on priceless works

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of art and such because like they think the world

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is going to sync to the bottom of the ocean

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because like people are using some oil and such. It's

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it's just complete lunatics, like inmates running the asylum at

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this point.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know that from the episode you deal with

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Thomas talking about hunting specifically, you were talking about hunting

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in Africa, but I know you hunt.

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Speaker 3: Here as well.

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Speaker 1: I know that I'm not a hunter, but I've spent

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a lot of time around hunters, and you know, there

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are some of the first people who are going to

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talk about you know, conservation and the environment and you

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know specifically around where they live. They want to take care,

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they want to take care of around where they live.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were often the hunters and anglers are like

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the first people to like sound the alarm in many

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cases of environmental disaster. People can look this up in

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the seventies and the eighties, like Lake Erie and Lake

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Saint Clair and like the I forget the name of

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the river, Mommy, you know the Mammy River, and like

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Toledo and such and uh, the runs through downtown Cleveland.

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They used to catch fire back in the day because

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of all the pollution. And it wasn't like a bunch

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of environmentalists that sound of the alarm on that. It

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was duck hunters said that, you know, there's no ducks

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in this area anymore. You know, the pollution is so

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bad that there's no like wild cellar that's growing to

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feed any of these ducks. We can't hunt this land anymore.

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You got to stop this nonsense. And of course it's

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going to be hunters and anglers and sound the alarm

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on this because they spend the most time in the woods.

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You know, you can call on any of these environmental

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activists and such so called and I guarantee you I've

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spent more time in the woods in the wilderness than

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all of them combined. Because they're they're a bunch of

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city slickers. Basically, they just see everything through the screen.

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They don't know what the behavioral patterns that thought patterns

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are of the species that live in the wilds, and

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how best to monitor them and how best to manage

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them and such. It's just they have this view that

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the only thing that man could possibly do in nature

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is to harm it somehow, like man doesn't belong in

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nature at all. He's just like this complete, you know,

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outside force that is only destructive.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that that basically has to do with

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their ideology that you know, the only people who are

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really doing this here are white men. And you know,

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there are groups that if you're familiar with deer hunting,

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there are groups in the Carolinas that go out and

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they they they have an over overpopulation of deer. They

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go out, they deer hunt and then they'll take that

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meat and they'll take it to a process and plant

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and all this will to charity. You'll just go to

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feed the homeless. It'll go toward it'll go towards something.

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guys doing it on their own, coming up with their

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if they don't get a chance to control it through

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their NGOs and government agencies. Then you know, it's just

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it's just white people doing you know, white people taking charge. Well,

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no we can't, it has to it's only us white

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people that get to do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just more like a colonizer rhetoric that you see.

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wilderness kind of in the same way they view like

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a bunch of indigenous groups. It's like there's like a

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Rousseau's noble savage of view of the wilderness as well,

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and it's like that they have no concept of Okay,

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a hunter goes into the woods and shoots a deer,

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which is infinitely more humane in most cases than how

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the deer is actually going to you know, die in

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the wild. It's not like you know, this Disney fairy

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tale where a deer is going to die of old

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age surrounded by loved ones. It's like, no, it's getting

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it hunted down after it's been sick, probably been lame,

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maybe it's been hit by a car, and it's going

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to be tracked down, ripped apart as first by a

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pack of coyotes and a pack of wolves. It's like,

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shut up, you have no idea what you're talking about

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and you see this as well when you see like

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legislation passed, particularly in what are now increasingly becoming more

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and more blue states out west. You saw something like

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the Pacific Northwest forever with things like forest management. But

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gray wolves into the state. They passed this in twenty

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twenty two, and now the populations have exploded and they're

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starting to eat livestock. And while they gave a law

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to reintroduce to wolves, they didn't pass a law courseponding

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just like surrender all of like our towns and all

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the human population and the live stock and the livestock

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is that's the only thing you can do, is okay,

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to kill them all, and who wants that. You could

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just do it. You could do it in a way

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where that is more natural.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 1: Didn't they introduce a wolf population into Yellowstone like fifteen

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years ago there hadn't been a wolf population there for

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a while, and they manage it really well, and then

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they saw certain other kind of species that had returned.

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sense of Okay, so you reintroduce a to predator, and

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the top predator is going to cut down populations of

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your bison and such, and that gives opportunities for plant

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species to bounce back because of not constantly being eaten

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all the way down to the stem all the time,

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because you have less herbivores running around, and that brings

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an opportunity for smaller herbivores to like make a return.

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You know, so like your different species like rabbits and

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other small game and such are allowed to come back,

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and that corresponds with different kinds of insects, and you know,

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food webs are very very delicate indeed, So yeah, introducing

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a top predator definitely has knock on a facts that

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enrich in environment.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know, you grew up in you grew up

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in Michigan, and people automatically when they hear about Michigan,

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they think a Detroit is Detroit only. Just like when

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you talk about New York, call it. Anybody wants to

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talk about his New York City. But I mean, once

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you go up and you go north, I mean, you're

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talking about some beautiful wilderness up there in the and

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it looks like a mitten. Isn't that what it ends

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up looking like? And yeah, I have a friend that lives,

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you know, almost all the way up to Canada there

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and everything, and apparently everything's supposed to be the how

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is the conservation up there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get this a lot in your Midwest States,

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where of course the population is centered around the big

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cities and then outside of that it's just you know,

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wild wilderness country and it's Hunter Central and everybody knows

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the maps of they're all like deep red areas surrounded

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by blue sea, blue cities and such, and yeah, Michigan

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is definitely one of these cases of the majority of

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the population is in like the southern quarter of the

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state land mass wise, and then the other three quarters

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of the land mass of the state has like nine

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to one quarter of the population, So it's very sparsely populated.

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in the upper peninsula of Michigan, you have wolf populations,

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you have elk, you have moose, you have bear, So

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it's it's very very wild up there.

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Speaker 1: Do you think I was just this is a wild

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thought I just had because I was reading about what

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they do in England, and I don't know if they

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still do it. Some of our English listeners can hit

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me up on Twitter or something like that. But venison

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is huge over there. I mean, it's one of their

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it's one of their staples. But I think they have

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state farms where they basically farm it. I mean, what

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about a state trying that out.

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Speaker 2: That would be an interesting idea. There are a couple

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of venison farms across the country, definitely more of them

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for like elk and bison. Es actually can go to

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like a high end restaurant and can get like a

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bison burger, an elk burger or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ted Ted Turner does that with the vice.

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Speaker 2: And m Yeah. The biggest issue about that is is

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that it's actually illegal in most states for you to

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directly sell your wild game on the market, and their

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their accusation of this is kind of the same thing

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where you run into like people in like the raw

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milk community and such like that, like, oh, well, it's

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it's super dangerous and you can't be selling this stuff.

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I mean, I'm kind of two minds about this. And

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there's this is like a big argument that goes back

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and forth in a hunter circles as to how concerned

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people should be on some of these like chronic preon

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disorders and diseases that are now popping up in deer species,

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particularly in the Midwest and New England and such. There's

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some really nasty chronic wasting disease that's being found at

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a lot of deer these days, which is a tick

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borne disease, you know, if you go down enough rabbit holes.

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similar to like lime disease such. So that's like the

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argument they're making now is that like, oh, well, you

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can't sell wild game because it could be infected and

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we don't want this disease to jump over to humans

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and such. It's like, yeah, I mean it could be.

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It's in such rarere, rare cases that I don't know.

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I am in two minds about it though.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I was specifically talking about something that

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would actually be the state funded or state state sponsored,

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you know, so that you actually, yeah, that was something

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that the state did, they would have, you know, just

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I mean, we already have farmers to get paid, not

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to grow paid. I mean, it doesn't it seems like

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something that might work, you know, if you have the

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right state, if you have the right kind of management

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of a state. I'm trying to think of a state

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right now that I think would be competent enough to

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do that.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you know, I'm just workshopping this idea.

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I bet you this could work very well in a

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lot of your Midwest states. This is going to open

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up another can of worms in another discussion. But you'll

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have these deer farms where they basically purebree top genetics

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for white tail deer, red stag, mule deer, what have

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you in these large fenced in game preserves basically, and

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you get some truly like monstrous, genetic, abnormal white tailed

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deer who have like twenty seven points on them and such,

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and hunters will pay like twenty grand to go and

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shoot it. Basically, it's like, oh, I got the biggest

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white tail deer ever. But you know, because it's like

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a fenced in property and such, and you have so

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many deer in this place, I suppose you know, a

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lot of these guys would probably gladly like when they

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have to call these deer because they just have to,

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you know, get a subsidy from the government and sell

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a lot of this meat off and such. I'm I'm

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sure those guys would certainly be interested in it. But

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you know, as soon as you bring that up, people

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are going to bring in, like the the ethical question

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of like, oh, fenced in hunting and all that kind

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of stuff. So I just don't try most of the

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state legislatures to actually deal with this issue. Accordingly, there's

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gonna be bitching and complaining about and saying this is

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unethical because you're treating Bambi a bad way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like this would be something that one

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of our guys, our guys would have to take over

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a state in order to see how this would uh

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see how this could play out and everything. So, so

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what else I mean, I know you grew up going

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to you were talking to Thomas about going to Africa

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doing big game hunting there. You've done hunting here. Yeah,

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how do we take this back? How do we you know, what,

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what's the message that you know? Or even let's let's

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go here. I mean we've talked about here a little

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bit over there. It seems like in Africa, it seems

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like because they count so much upon on the income

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that like Americans or anyone from anywhere around the world

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would go to spend there, I would think that they

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would probably go out of their way to make sure

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that the environment was a little bit is clean, well

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clean as possible out there. I mean, you don't have

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a lot of a great deal of manufacturing, you don't

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have a great deal of I assume you don't have

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a great deal of trash, but at least as far

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as like the game that you're going, it would seem

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like conservation would be really important to them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It really depends on the area in which you go.

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There's there are a couple of countries that have because

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they haven't been subject to a lot of civil unrest

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and civil wars throughout the last fifty to sixty years,

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they've kind of set themselves up into a groove where

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they're okay with people coming over and you know, actually

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hunting for sport as opposed to catering to poachers, which

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you know, even still any country over there is going

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to make more money poaching than hunting at this point.

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You know, the money that you get for like ivory

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fetches more than heroin on the world market, depending on

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where you are. And even though in some countries like Namibia,

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for example, which is one of the few countries left

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where you can hunt black rhinos, it's a quarter million

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dollars to shoot one cash and you can easily get

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way more money from that from one rhino horn by

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selling it to the chinamen and such. So the corruption

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is really rife in a lot of these places where

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you know, briberies go down, poachers come in and shoot

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a bunch of stuff, but they also do cater to

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you know, professional hunters in the areas where professional hunters

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are catered to populations are stable across all of Africa

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where you actually look at the numbers where professional hunters

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are stationed, but they can't be everywhere, right. And then

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when you actually look in the context of countries where

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they don't have professional hunting, these are mostly your war

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torn countries because obviously, you know, you're not going to

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spend a bunch of money if you're rich like Texan,

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you're not going to go to like Angola or Mozambique

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or you know, like like Congo or some shit. You know,

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you're not gonna go to one of these like terrible countries.

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So in those places, yeah, the game is just being

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like ripped apart, and there's extinction and extra pation of

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species is happening all the time over there. So it

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really does depend on where you are. But what is

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clear is that left to their own devices without like

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the incentive for professional hunters, which are almost always Westerners,

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and they're always being monitored by Western phs as well.

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It's not like you have a company that is you know,

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like actually run by locals. It's always run by some

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kind of you know, either Rhodesian or South African guy

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or you know, some guy from Tanzania or something. It's

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always like a white guy who's in charge of these

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alfreds and these countries and these companies and such. It's

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never like locals, like locals that are employed, who are

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like trackers and service people and such like that on

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these big safaris. But left to their own devices, they

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would just destroy every last bit of this game and

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sell it to the highest bidder.

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Speaker 3: Really tells you something, doesn't it. Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So.

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Speaker 3: What would you look at for? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Huh okay, So you have you have control over this,

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what's the first thing you do. What's the first thing

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you try and get under control?

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Speaker 2: In the context of Africa, Well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean we can stay here, let's let's

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come home. I mean, sure, we're gonna have to worry

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about Africa at some point. I agree with Eric Prince

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on that, but yeah, let's let's stay here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm pro colonialism just to save the megafauna

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at this point. But we can go back to that later. Yeah.

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For uh, I think it'd be very One of the

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takes has been going around recently in our spaces is

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discussion about how like rights and Second Amendment and stuff

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to some people is viewed just like a distraction issue

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because it's one of the issues that has actually expanded

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since you know, and I've been alive, Like concealed carry

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is in almost every single state at this point, and

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it seems like gun rights is one of the few

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things that the right has actually made some serious gains

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on in the United States, and one of the things

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like it's almost like that's the only issue that hunters

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care about outside of like hunting itself. Like you have,

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like the big organizations like Dallas Safari Club, Safari Club International,

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you know, Boone and Crocket Club, of all these like

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big hunting organizations, they seem to only really care about

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the gun issue. And that's basically it. Like, Okay, we're

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really rob rob protecting Second Amendment and such. But what

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I would really like to see out of these guys

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is reaching out into other, you know, avenues. I would

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really like to see people like you know, whoever's in

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charge of SCI reach out to somebody like RFK because

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combining those two things together with I mean, I don't know, Pete,

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I don't know how often you wild game and such,

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but it's just so much more healthy for you than

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like the engineer gooy slab that has fed down our

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throats every single day. I mean, and you could detect

479
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:12,079
it immediately, like when you take a bite of venison,

480
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,640
you take a bite of a bison burger or an

481
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,839
elk steak or something, you could just immediately tell there's

482
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,799
way more vitamins and nutrients in this thing than anything

483
00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:24,200
I've basically eaten before. And I think that is a

484
00:26:24,279 --> 00:26:28,119
really productive avenue that these people should be making more

485
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,279
inroads to. Another thing that they can making inroads to

486
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,480
is things like anti factory farming, you know, like the

487
00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:37,799
free farming movement or whatever the hell people are calling

488
00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:40,640
it these days, like open range farming and such. I'd

489
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,880
like to see these guys look for allies and realize that, hey,

490
00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:48,960
this issue of hunting is about overall general health of

491
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,000
our people and our nation as a whole, as opposed

492
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:54,279
to Okay, let's just focus about guns. So just talk

493
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:57,119
about guns, guns, guns again. It's like, Okay, I get it,

494
00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:00,200
the guns are really important. I understand that. But you know,

495
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:02,680
let's let's expand our horizons here a little bit.

496
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, as far as elk and bison and the light go. Yeah, obviously,

497
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,160
I'm not out there shooting any but I do whenever

498
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,759
I can, I get it. And you can you can tell,

499
00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:20,279
I mean right away you can the Yeah, the average

500
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,720
kind of steak that you get, especially if you get

501
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,880
a steak at like a Costco or one of the

502
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,799
big stores, when I mean there's no comparison. I mean

503
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,599
I used to have a Sam's Club membership and we

504
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:35,599
used to get like the big pack of steaks and

505
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:39,640
it just got to the point where I just stopped

506
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:42,200
because I would just look at them in the package

507
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,559
and you're just like, all right. Then you go to

508
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:47,359
a butcher's shop, a real butcher shop that has we

509
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,240
have a butcher We have a butcher shop in town.

510
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:49,839
Speaker 3: That's great.

511
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just basically coming from from farms around here.

512
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,480
And the difference is you can see it right away,

513
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,160
you can. You can just look at it, and you

514
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,400
can tell there's a difference. And you know, people who

515
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,079
haven't eaten like bison or elk or even a chicken

516
00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:12,000
or you know, my my property is surrounded by a

517
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:14,079
cattle farm, and I know the people who own the

518
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,839
cattle farm, and you know they've given us, you know, here,

519
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:19,880
here's some of your neighbors, you know, just stick in

520
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,000
the freezer, and it's like the taste is so different.

521
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:26,359
I mean it's just it's not even it's not even close,

522
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,799
you know, and it's like the first time he gave

523
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,759
it to me is like, now it's gonna taste different.

524
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,920
It's gonna I'm like, dude, I've had I've had right

525
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,160
off the I've had right off the farm before it.

526
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: A couple hours ago.

527
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you know, and then he has

528
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,480
a chicken house, so we go there and we get

529
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,359
the we get eggs like as they're you know, that

530
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,920
were laid that day and everything. So yeah, I mean,

531
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:56,079
people really need to start looking into this, because when

532
00:28:56,119 --> 00:28:58,880
you do start eating stuff like that, you you just

533
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,480
feel different. It's yeah, I don't even really know how

534
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,079
to explain it.

535
00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And then I think the other thing, too,

536
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,079
is one of the indrouds we can make is, you know,

537
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:15,039
money's pretty tight right now from people, right inflation wise

538
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:18,240
and everything, and people look at the price of you know,

539
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,240
like a Wagoo b for some of this like really

540
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,599
organic stuff, and it seems to be way more expensive.

541
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,559
But if you actually go out and engage in the

542
00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:28,559
sport yourself and kill it yourself. I mean, you should

543
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,000
like three deer, and that's enough food for you for

544
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:34,640
an entire year, so easily. I mean like you should

545
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,599
like three doughs. That's about you know, depending on how

546
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,680
big they are, that's around one hundred pounds of nison.

547
00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:41,519
And you got to think in your head what you

548
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:44,119
go through like two pounds of meat a day maybe

549
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,680
depending on how big your family is and such. And

550
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,599
a deer tag in most states is like forty five

551
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,200
bucks at this point because there's just so many of them.

552
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,240
I mean, granted, yeah, there's a bit of a barrier

553
00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:55,799
to entry because you got to you know, make the

554
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:58,279
time and find a hunting ground and such, and you know,

555
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,759
hone your skills properly. But I mean, if you get

556
00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:04,680
your family accustomed to, yeah, I killed this thing, and

557
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,200
I'm gonna got it and I'm gonna stick it in

558
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,119
the freezer and we're gonna eat venison, you know, a

559
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,640
couple months out of the year kids, you know, it

560
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,000
can be very very luquidive for you.

561
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: Well, even I mean even if you don't want to

562
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,920
dress it yourself. I mean there's in most areas you

563
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,880
have you have butchers. You have taxidermists that'll do it

564
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,200
for you, and they'll yeah, they're not gonna They're not

565
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,200
going to charge you an insane amount of money. And

566
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,079
when you after you pay the tag and then you

567
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:38,799
pay the pay the pay the butcher or the some

568
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:43,240
around here taxidermy shops there are the ones that do

569
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:47,519
a lot of that. They you know, you're basically paying

570
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,160
four or five dollars a pound.

571
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I.

572
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: Mean you're you're making out better than you would in

573
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:54,920
a store.

574
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And uh. I think the goes thing too.

575
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,440
And this is one of the things I'm really trying

576
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,119
to get started next year for some of our OGC

577
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:06,039
members and our chapters across the country is I'm all

578
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:08,799
start taking our guys on hunts. I have some ideas

579
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:11,440
to I'm going to test run this later this year

580
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,319
in Florida some of the guys in the Florida chapter

581
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,359
to go on a wild boar hunt. But what I

582
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,599
want to do is, at least like two times a year,

583
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:20,599
take a couple of our guys either down to Texas

584
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,440
or down to Florida and start getting them involved actually

585
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,000
in the sport. Because it is a pretty hard barrier

586
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:28,279
to entry. It's not like fishing where you can just

587
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:30,960
pick up like a twenty dollars pond from Dixborny Goods

588
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,039
and go down to your like local pond or something.

589
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:35,400
You know, like it can be really daunting if you

590
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,400
don't know what you're doing. So that's one of the

591
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,519
things I want to do, and not just because like

592
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:41,960
you know, you actually need somebody to teach you about

593
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,160
you know, how to properly conduct yourself when you're out

594
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,839
in the wilderness, like basic safety stuff like ready to

595
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:50,039
shoot your animal, how to dress it properly. The other

596
00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:53,400
thing too, is that it's just a spiritual experience as well.

597
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,480
You find yourself way more in a connection with wilderness,

598
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:00,799
God's creation, even yourself. You know, there's something like primal

599
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,480
that awakens in you when you're adrenaline is high and

600
00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:06,039
you know you've just shot something, you've killed something for

601
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:09,440
the first time. You definitely have way more of a

602
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:13,079
a respect for the world, and you understand your place

603
00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:15,960
in it, and you understand your role, especially as particularly

604
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:18,440
as you know people of the West, and as white men,

605
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,559
who are the only people on the entire planet that

606
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:24,880
have engaged in conservation in any way, special honorable mention

607
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,160
goes to the Japanese, but ignoring them it kind of

608
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,480
just puts in context like you know, people like what crises,

609
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:34,799
people like BAP for saying that like one snow leopard

610
00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:38,000
is worth like ten million you know, pagets. But I

611
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:40,160
totally fucking agree, absolutely true.

612
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, well, yeah, the snow leopard is

613
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,119
not going to lie to you about their their skills

614
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,559
and everything, and yeah, you hire them and then it's like, oh, wow,

615
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,799
they really don't know what the hell they're doing.

616
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:56,599
Speaker 3: Yeah.

617
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,519
Speaker 2: It really just attacks this idea of like when we

618
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:00,920
talk about like the bug men and such and senseless

619
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,960
biomass just for biomass sake, And it kind of like

620
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,279
brings me back to one of the things I really

621
00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:10,920
hate that establishment normy cons talk about is like that

622
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:13,839
they're always getting hung up on this idea of like

623
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,319
a population shrinkage and such like this, which is like, okay,

624
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,079
I mean, like population decline is just like anything, there's

625
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:21,920
going to be busts and booms and things like this.

626
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,200
And if we didn't have this you know, entitlement scheme

627
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:28,920
basically to pay for everyone's social security and welfare until

628
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,680
the day they die, you know, population, you know, decrease

629
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,720
would be a pretty good thing, especially for us younger

630
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,160
guys who are looking to buy ourselves at home and such,

631
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:39,880
and this like idea that, oh, well, in order to

632
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:43,160
compensate for the fact that we've basically destroyed the incentives

633
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,519
for men and women to get together and reform families,

634
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,279
we need to import more people from the Third World

635
00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:52,240
into our own country, which somehow is like environmentally friendly

636
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:54,920
to be wasting a bunch of fuel transporting people from

637
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,279
the Third World over to here. And then also to

638
00:33:57,319 --> 00:33:59,960
compensate for that, because we need more people to you know,

639
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:03,519
work for us. Instead of addressing issues at home, we're

640
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:07,599
just going to break very basic civilizational rules that everybody

641
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:09,960
in the past knew about, Like I don't know, don't

642
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,880
give your enemies your fucking technology. It's like rule one

643
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,920
when you're playing a game of civilization is don't give

644
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:18,679
like Sub Saharan Africans who didn't invent the wheel or

645
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,480
written language, like access to twenty first century technology. And

646
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:26,079
then you just see these absolute horror shows of trash

647
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:28,840
that is built up on every single shoreline throughout all

648
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,079
Sub Saharan Africa, in every single river in Southeast Asia

649
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,840
where they've destroyed dozens upon dozens of species just in

650
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,320
the last decade and driven them to extinction. It's like, yeah,

651
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,639
this is an absolutely fucking joke. And then on top

652
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,480
of that, it's somehow like you know, the westerner's fault

653
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:48,840
for driving a gas powered car that you know you're

654
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,039
destroying the entire earth.

655
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the same people who claim to care

656
00:34:55,519 --> 00:35:00,000
about the environment import them here, want them imported here,

657
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:03,159
or advocate for them to be imported here. And then

658
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,159
you watch the videos from like New York City or Springfield, Ohio,

659
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,639
or you know what Miami has been for a long time,

660
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:19,079
and you realize that these people they don't know basic sanitation. Yeah,

661
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:23,639
and yet we're supposed to bring them here, and somehow

662
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,199
what we're supposed to teach them, we're supposed we're supposed

663
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,920
to take time out of our day to make them human.

664
00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:36,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, sorry, it's yeah, it's crazy. I mean, like,

665
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:39,480
just look at it from a picture from space, and

666
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,880
this is amazing when I first heard this a couple

667
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,039
of years ago. But it's nuts when you look into it.

668
00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:46,320
Look at the country of Haiti, and they've almost cut

669
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,000
down every single tree in their entire country, like they've

670
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:53,800
almost completely exhausted all of their resources. It's like there's

671
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,920
just no concept of, you know, saving for the next

672
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,079
day or saving for the future. I just exploit, exploit, exploit, use, use,

673
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,760
use to the very last man. And they're absolutely going

674
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,440
to do that here. There's not like some magic dirt

675
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:09,960
that oh, I'm going to import a Haitian and all

676
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,440
of a sudden he's going to have respect for the

677
00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:14,239
land or come up with the idea of a national park,

678
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:16,400
like they just think about that for a second. The

679
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,079
idea of having a national park a place that we're

680
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:22,679
just gonna section off. Nobody's allowed to go in it

681
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:26,440
unless with express written permission from the government, and it's

682
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,239
just going to be sanctuary for wildlife and wide open,

683
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,320
beautiful spaces and you're just going to be there to

684
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,559
hike it and you get heavily fined if you leave

685
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:37,480
trash around, and you're just there to enjoy, and they're

686
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:40,360
to take in the beauty of God's creation like nobody

687
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,360
else thinks this way.

688
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:48,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now there's talk of cartels being you know,

689
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:51,159
setting up shop in these parks and everything, and I mean,

690
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:54,159
do you think they're going to care about it as

691
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,360
much as you know we would of course not.

692
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, people.

693
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,679
Speaker 1: I read Camp of the Saints on my show about

694
00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:08,760
six months ago or so, beginning of the year, and

695
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,159
I had people comment and they're like, oh, I read that.

696
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:18,079
It's so comical. It's so it's just it's really at best,

697
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:21,400
it's a comic book, caricature of these people. At worst,

698
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,880
it's just the most racist thing. And it's like, no,

699
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:29,000
it's like no, I mean, I've never been to India, Okay,

700
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,400
but I know several people who have been to India

701
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,400
and they all have the they all have the same opinion.

702
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,480
It's like, I can't wait to leave. And I had

703
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:42,000
one person who saw me there, like, as soon as

704
00:37:42,039 --> 00:37:48,159
they open up the plane door, you know, you think

705
00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:52,119
you're in hell because the smell gets you as soon

706
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:54,639
as you open the door. It's like, and this is

707
00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:59,880
what they want. This, this is the strength of diversity

708
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:01,320
that we need apparently.

709
00:38:02,039 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it just goes to show you how really

710
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,039
subversive a lot of these like nature documentaries hosted by

711
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:11,800
like David Attenborough or whatever, where they have a clear

712
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,599
like climate agenda to push on these things where they

713
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,800
they'll show you like species from like India or something,

714
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,639
and they'll talk about like tigers or bears or whatever.

715
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,679
Show you, you know, a tiger at a kill. And

716
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,119
then they'll show you like the factories of India and

717
00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:31,519
it kind of puts in the subconscious of your brain.

718
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:33,920
It's like, oh, there's smoke stacks as factories. We have

719
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,519
smoke stacks and factories over here in America. We're just

720
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:39,840
as guilty as this than they are. But they're very

721
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,400
careful to never ever show you the literal mountains that

722
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,239
are like eight stories tall of trash outside of like

723
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,679
New Delhi. They're so tall that they actually need to

724
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,119
have like air traffic control towers on top of them

725
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,400
to make sure that airplanes don't fly into them. That's

726
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,880
how tall these mountains of trash are there in this country.

727
00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:00,880
They never show you the shorelines that are covered in

728
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,679
plastic and fishing nets and just junk of all kinds

729
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,320
because they just don't care. It's like, oh, well, something

730
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,000
goes under the ocean. It's just you know, like tragedy

731
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,519
of the commons. It's just out there and no one's

732
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:14,599
going to touch it, you know. So like they put

733
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:17,199
this like worm in your brain where it's like, oh, well,

734
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,079
we need to shut down all the factories here because

735
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:21,679
that's the problem. It's like, I mean, if you just

736
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:24,440
like look at the actual math and the statistics for

737
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:28,440
like greenhouse gases in carbon which is like, yeah, it's

738
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,480
approved scientific phenomenon. How much do humans have an effect

739
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:34,639
on it is like minimal as far as I'm concerned.

740
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,400
I mean, when you look at the data of something

741
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,519
like when Mount Saint Helen's erupted in nineteen eighty or

742
00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:41,519
was eighty one, I forget each year, but it put

743
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,119
more CO two in the atmosphere than the previous six

744
00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:48,440
thousand years of humanity combined. It's like, yeah, just to

745
00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:51,519
think that man has this kind of power to be,

746
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,960
you know, increasing the temperature of the planet when already

747
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,800
the Earth is in a extreme like cold period in

748
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,760
its history if you look at the fossil record and so,

749
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,199
I mean, it's just ridiculous to think that like factories

750
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,400
are the cause and the problems here when the real

751
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,920
big issue, if you want to talk about environmental concerns,

752
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,039
is actual pollution, things like plastics, things like masks. From

753
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:14,400
the previous like three years when everyone was locked down

754
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,519
in their fucking homes because of a cold. Yeah, all

755
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:18,920
those masks are in the ocean now, and like a

756
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,679
bunch of fish and a bunch of sea turtles and

757
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,800
whales and shit are choking on them all the time

758
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,599
because no, oh, well, of course they're just gonna end

759
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:28,159
up in the ocean. They're a bunch of like oh

760
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:30,280
uh people in Southeast Asia and a bunch of Indians

761
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,400
and such, and they're not gonna dispose of them properly,

762
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:33,880
so of course they're going to get into the ocean.

763
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:36,079
And once it gets into the ocean, people can look

764
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:39,000
up these things about like the Great Pacific garbage Patch

765
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:41,800
and just gets caught up in this never ending circular

766
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,440
currents that go between the South China Sea and Hawaii

767
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:49,320
and such, and it's new splash. It's not the United

768
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,719
States or any country in the West for that matter,

769
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,239
that is contributing to this level of pollution. And they

770
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,559
always try to focus on, like the climate stuff. It's like, well,

771
00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:01,280
first of all, you haven't proved that a that's damaging

772
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,880
in anyway, and second of all, you're actually not addressing

773
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,280
the things that people should be talking about, like the

774
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,199
fact that you're just dumping shit into the oceans.

775
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:12,159
Speaker 3: Yeah.

776
00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:17,679
Speaker 1: And another thing is if they really really cared about

777
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:25,079
the environment, nuclear would be That's pretty much what the

778
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:28,800
whole country would run on because it's the cleanest burning

779
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,800
energy out there.

780
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: You know.

781
00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:36,519
Speaker 1: They put up these windmills that are just absolutely disgusting

782
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:38,519
that I mean, first of all, they look terrible.

783
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:40,679
Speaker 2: They kill many of my feathered friends.

784
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and they leak oil all the time. These

785
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,599
solar farms which are basically using up, using up land

786
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,519
and just look look horrendous if you've ever seen those

787
00:41:54,559 --> 00:42:00,400
from the sky. And then we just you know, like

788
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,360
like France did. And I haven't really looked into France recently,

789
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,679
I'm sure that they've succumbed to some kind of pressure

790
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,800
to get rid of their nuclear that they were running.

791
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,000
I think it was like ninety to ninety five percent

792
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:17,239
of France was running on nuclear, And well, why can't

793
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,719
we have that here? Well, because Three Mile Island, which

794
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,400
was you know, who knows what the hell that was,

795
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:29,079
or movies like the China Syndrome, they're trying to scare

796
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:30,199
everybody to death.

797
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:35,199
Speaker 2: I'm like, everyone just brings up the you know, the

798
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,639
description of like a chernobyl or like the Fukushima disaster.

799
00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:42,760
It's like, well, I mean, okay, so you're talking about nuclear.

800
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:46,079
So we've had what like three major disasters in like

801
00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:48,639
the one hundred years it's been around, and one of

802
00:42:48,639 --> 00:42:50,119
those was done because it was run by a bunch

803
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:53,119
of incompetent comis and the other one was because a

804
00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:55,880
tsunami in an earthquake occurred right next to the foundation,

805
00:42:56,159 --> 00:43:00,239
so it got destroyed. It's like, okay, I mean, what

806
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,079
do you want from me at that point? I mean, yeah,

807
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:04,840
nothing's ever going to be perfect. Sorry, but you know,

808
00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:07,840
in you know, as they always say, right, it's about

809
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,840
trade offs, right, It's like, okay, do you want to

810
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,079
have a billion windmills that kill god knows how many

811
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,119
birds every year? And do you want to have these

812
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:19,079
giant ass solar farms that we've proven are just not

813
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:21,960
productive like at all on a large scale. I mean,

814
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,880
like you can get like solar panels install like outside

815
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,840
your house and it'll cut down on your electric bill

816
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,159
quite a little bit. But to do this at scale,

817
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,400
we just don't have the battery technology to do it.

818
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,039
And I don't know if you want to, like I

819
00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:35,400
don't know if Elon Musk wants to invest in do

820
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,440
some research into battery stuff. I'm like, okay, fine, but

821
00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:40,840
this idea that you know, somehow we're going to get

822
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,920
the entire American public to start driving on electric cars.

823
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,920
It's like, well, where do you think electricity comes from?

824
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:48,559
I mean it comes from burning coal. It doesn't come

825
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,920
There's not enough waterways and enough windmills and enough solar

826
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,280
panels to generate enough electricity to keep the grid going

827
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,880
if everyone wants to start using electric cars. I mean

828
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,400
that this is just like fairy tale land. I'm done

829
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,079
by a bunch of people who don't spend time in

830
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:05,320
the wilderness, who don't know how energy is used or

831
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:09,719
or consumed, quite frankly, and they just know nothing about

832
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:15,840
like nature, food chains, food webs, anything like this. It's

833
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:16,800
all just based on emotion.

834
00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have I mean, and you have options.

835
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,960
I mean natural gas can run whole house generators.

836
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: I mean you.

837
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: The idea that we've just allowed this this monopoly where yeah,

838
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:40,079
sure we do have we do have some nuclear power

839
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:45,079
plants around the country, but not nearly enough. And I

840
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:47,840
mean you still have dams, you still have you know,

841
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,199
you still have, and that can work that can work

842
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,599
for smaller communities, but when it comes to the heavily

843
00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:59,639
populated areas, especially well the coasts, I mean, this is

844
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:03,719
a no brainner. And you know, considering now that you

845
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:10,280
they're even safer ways of producing nuclear it's I mean,

846
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:10,760
it's just.

847
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then and also continuing back to what we

848
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,159
were discussing already, is the left, who claims to be

849
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,679
on the side of environmentalism protecting the environment just want

850
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,800
to go infinity migrants. It's like, I remember getting into

851
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,519
an argument on Twitter once with like a leftist because

852
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:33,440
I had one of these like tweets that went viral

853
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,559
basically saying that like, of course, like the white man

854
00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:39,440
is the only one that engages in conservation. And whenever

855
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:41,079
I have one of these tweets that go send my viral,

856
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:42,960
there's always like some shit libs in the comments, like

857
00:45:43,159 --> 00:45:45,559
raging about this, and I just asked them about immigration.

858
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,760
I'm like, okay, so you're just going to convert every

859
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:54,400
single like forest, great plain, desert, you know, a coastline,

860
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,679
you know, everything into like cheap ass shopping balls, and

861
00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:01,360
like they have like this cognitives and sort of like, no,

862
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,039
we just need to build more housing. It's like, well, motherfucker,

863
00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:07,039
Like people just don't live at homes, dude, Like you

864
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:09,400
have to have a whole infrastructure. Need to build up, schools,

865
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,440
you need to build up like all sorts of other things.

866
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,079
For a community, you need to build up you know, supermarkets.

867
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 3: Need to build up hospitals.

868
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything else that requires like a population increase. Now,

869
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,599
so yeah, you are going to replace everything. It's not

870
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,320
just like, oh, let's just build more housing. We can

871
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,280
have a billion Americans. Like in this Matt Iglesias conception,

872
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,480
which angers me to no end. It's like, dude, they're

873
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,360
I'm taking more and more of like a lot of

874
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,920
approach as I get older in this thing. It's like

875
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:42,719
there's way too many people. I mean not just not

876
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,440
just in America, but like completely abroad. You know, like

877
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:49,079
the no, fuck off, we do not need a billion people.

878
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:51,039
I'm fine with the population declining so I can afford

879
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:53,199
a home. I'm fine with there being more wild spaces.

880
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,599
I'm fine with you know, like a government like unfunded

881
00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:00,800
liabilities to like take a backseat, Like I really just

882
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,119
don't care. I want a country. I want a nation.

883
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:05,559
I want to be able to walk outside and enjoy

884
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:07,239
the clean air. I want to go to a national

885
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,239
park where there aren't infinity pagetes, you know, just standing

886
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,360
in line. I was in Like I went and visited

887
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,000
Mammoth Cave National Park this summer for the first time,

888
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,320
and I was just blown away how many Foig nationals

889
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,440
are there. It's like if I get if I'm president

890
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,000
of day one, it's like free and minutes to all

891
00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:26,159
like a national parks and theme parks and such for Americans,

892
00:47:26,199 --> 00:47:29,519
and like a five percent uptick to all foreigners, like

893
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,079
the national park system and like a theme park system,

894
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,599
you know, something like disney World. Used to be one

895
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:37,679
of like the perks of being an American, but now

896
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,039
I was just like so expensive. It's so cost prohibitive

897
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:43,159
for like your average Joe family from like Maine to

898
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:45,480
go take a summer road trip down to Tennessee or

899
00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:48,599
to Florida with the family. It's it's just not like

900
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:53,000
feasible anymore. And the not to mention issues of like

901
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:55,360
traffic here in an underway. I mean, I was driving

902
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,760
around Toronto earlier this year, which is the traffic capital

903
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,039
of the Western Hemisphere, and stuck in traffic for three

904
00:48:01,079 --> 00:48:03,679
and a half hours to go five hours through downtown

905
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,800
to go five miles through downtown. It's like, there's too

906
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,280
many fucking people here, and we're just going to import

907
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,480
more of them and more of them, more of them

908
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,639
when we don't have the infrastructure for it. It's like,

909
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,559
get the fuck.

910
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 3: Out of here.

911
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm not, obviously, I'm not advocating for this,

912
00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:24,679
but when you put them into cities you have public transportation.

913
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:30,159
When you put them into friggin Springfield, Ohio or Silicaga, Alabama,

914
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:34,039
there's no public transportation. So they have to buy cars.

915
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:36,599
They have to get cars, and they're given money to

916
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:40,800
buy cars. And well, what's they're so worried about these

917
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,039
cars in the environment and everything. Now you have more

918
00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:45,679
cars on the road. Now you have more you know,

919
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,360
more you know of the co two that they're they're

920
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:55,039
so worried about, or the not to mention the yeah, traffic,

921
00:48:55,320 --> 00:49:02,239
well yeah, traffic fatalities. These people just don't think. Yeah,

922
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,960
And I know there are some of them whom who

923
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,039
are just really really fucked in the head, who think

924
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:11,760
they mean well, but then there are the ones that

925
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,960
are just doing it to punish us.

926
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: And yeah, and then they have exactly, and then they

927
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,599
have their apparactions in the media. Did you see this

928
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:22,039
when I forget the name of the journal was doing this.

929
00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:25,360
But in the wake of all this Springfield, Ohio stuff

930
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,079
popping off, this guy like basically wrote a op ed

931
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,280
comparing a Haitian going down to the local duck pond

932
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,519
snatching up a goose as the same thing as a

933
00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:37,239
hunter going outside and shooting a goose with a shotgun.

934
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:39,920
He's like, well, well, white people go out hunting all

935
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,760
the time, so what's wrong with the Haitian going down

936
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,519
to the local pond and just stagging one? It's like, dude,

937
00:49:44,519 --> 00:49:47,360
do you have do you have like like how far

938
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,760
barrick are you? Like, seriously, do you have like no

939
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,559
concept of fair chase? Do you have no concept of

940
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,000
like being a warden of the place that you love?

941
00:49:55,079 --> 00:49:57,960
Do you have no concept of like decency and like

942
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,679
an appreciation for beauty and like walking around a local

943
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,360
park when you see what it's basically like a domesticated

944
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,519
goose walking around that's very accustomed to people, Like people

945
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:11,239
go down there with their kids and you know, feedbread

946
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,079
to the ducks and shit like this, and and you

947
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:15,760
think that's the same thing as like a hunter going

948
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,639
out in the woods and decking himself out in cameo,

949
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,719
buying a goose tag that goes right back into conservation

950
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,920
of like wild wetlands and such, taking a gun out

951
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,360
and shooting it in a very humane way, and then

952
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,280
like reporting, you know, if he shot one that has

953
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,039
like a bird tag on his ankle and reporting it

954
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:35,159
to the DNR so they could track movements and migratory birds.

955
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,480
You think that's the same thing as some like sixty

956
00:50:37,519 --> 00:50:41,480
five iq hation going down to like the local pond

957
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,320
and just grabbing something and wringing its neck in from

958
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,800
a bunch of kids, Like, what the fuck is wrong

959
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:45,360
with you? Dude?

960
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've.

961
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,599
Speaker 1: These people there. They fucking hate us so much that

962
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:05,840
they default to the absurd to try to justify the

963
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,480
shit that they do. I mean, none of these people

964
00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:12,239
have you know. I got a at my sub stack

965
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,639
this morning was about this email that I got from

966
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,519
some fucking shit lib up in New York who wanted

967
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:23,360
me to explain myself because I did a video on

968
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:30,440
the history of Haiti. Fuck you not explaining myself. I'm

969
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,760
not explaining myself to you. I'm not fucking first of all.

970
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,519
You know, it's like somebody there was a really good

971
00:51:35,519 --> 00:51:38,800
threat on Twitter today about how you know, these fucking

972
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,360
commis the way they frame their questions is to try

973
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,679
to once you argue and try to answer their question,

974
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:49,239
you've basically accepted their framework.

975
00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:52,159
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the left is so good at this at fan.

976
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: And my response, you know, my response to this thing

977
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,840
about I have friends that are Haitian. I have Haitian

978
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,320
Catholic friends, and you know, some of them are so

979
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,159
much nicer than a lot of the people around me

980
00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:08,719
who call themselves Christians and everything. And I just really

981
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,320
want you to explain, you know, what is the problem here,

982
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,119
Explain yourself and everything. And I was like, you're not

983
00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:18,599
my people. I'm not going to explain myself to you.

984
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,920
There's no conversation to be had here.

985
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like a lot of our guys. Maybe

986
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,760
it's because of like the intellectual foundation of where a

987
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,119
lot of us have come from in our thing as

988
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:35,920
it relates to like the twenty seventeen like facts and logic,

989
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,840
own sjw's and such. Or maybe it's just a way

990
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,039
that a lot of us came to our opinions we hold,

991
00:52:41,079 --> 00:52:44,719
We came to it through like careful inspection of ideas,

992
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,000
and this is why we hold the positions that we have.

993
00:52:48,039 --> 00:52:50,559
People have this idea that like you have to engage

994
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:52,840
in like an argument or a discourse with people, because

995
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,800
that's how a lot of us got to our position,

996
00:52:55,199 --> 00:52:57,599
when really, I think a lot of our guys can

997
00:52:57,639 --> 00:53:00,840
just start thinking of ourselves as an up coming elite.

998
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:05,199
Like no, you simply credit to Charlotte as well, because

999
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,360
he was kind of bringing this up on the stream

1000
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,360
out last night. I listened back to it today when

1001
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,599
he was talking about just the standard deviation and IQ

1002
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:15,760
from people like us to Haitians. It's like, yeah, it's

1003
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,800
a couple. Standard deviation is a way that you can't

1004
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,360
just even understand how these people think. And I think

1005
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,440
that's a way more healthy position for a lot of

1006
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,280
our guys to have. It's like, no, this isn't a discussion.

1007
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,559
I'm going to win. I'm going to set the tempo,

1008
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,800
I'm going to set the frame, and you're gonna fucking

1009
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,280
live with it. And I don't really care what you

1010
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,199
have to say. I'm not arguing with you. The time

1011
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,920
for discussion is long past. Things are like the stakes

1012
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,199
are far too high at this point, I just I

1013
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,360
just don't care. I mean, I've like over two thousand

1014
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,079
people blocked on Twitter at this point, Like, I'm not

1015
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:46,239
gonna fucking argue with you. Get the fuck out. You're

1016
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,000
my enemy, no way, I'm going to rule over you.

1017
00:53:49,199 --> 00:53:51,599
And if you don't like it, Pound sand.

1018
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: This is exactly what I saw the person I said,

1019
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,760
I don't know you, and from your comments, I can

1020
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,559
see you're not my people. We don't share values. So

1021
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:00,719
I will not be responding with an ur hument defending

1022
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,639
my position, and I have no interest in convincing you

1023
00:54:03,679 --> 00:54:09,840
of anything. I mean, what else is there to say?

1024
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, excellent. I mean I see this a bunch of

1025
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,280
like my Twitter and I try to give like kind

1026
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,840
of examples to people like this when they follow my account.

1027
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,199
This is one of the great lessons that you know,

1028
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,079
you'll find in a red pill and manaster. Your stuff

1029
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:26,440
is about frame control and up setting frame and such,

1030
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,280
because it's very important when you're having relationships with women.

1031
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,760
But it's also just good and many other aspects of

1032
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,800
your life. But you know, like I make a point

1033
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,920
and then some like shit lib or some like you know,

1034
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:40,719
like brain dead little bird basically will come into the

1035
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,280
comments and say, oh, so that means you must advocate

1036
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,000
x y Z. It's like, okay, well what grown man

1037
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:49,320
uses the word advocate? You know, like you're only doing

1038
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,360
this for two reasons. One you're either looking to come

1039
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,159
in here and argue and try and catch me in

1040
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,480
like a goatcha statement or something, or two you're looking

1041
00:54:56,519 --> 00:54:59,119
for someone to lead you. Basically, you're looking for a shepherd.

1042
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,920
And I don't have time for either of those people.

1043
00:55:01,079 --> 00:55:03,119
Out of time for arguments, and I have no time

1044
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,159
for like being a shepherd. For you. It's like, come

1045
00:55:06,199 --> 00:55:09,000
to your own conclusions if yeah, you like, if you

1046
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:10,960
like what we're about it. It's like Thomas says, right,

1047
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,119
we're not Jehovah's witnesses.

1048
00:55:13,559 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1049
00:55:14,159 --> 00:55:18,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought i'd mentioned this too if you hadn't

1050
00:55:18,159 --> 00:55:22,639
seen it a little bit off topic. But they're reporting

1051
00:55:22,679 --> 00:55:25,960
that Michigan ballots will now only be counted after proof

1052
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,639
that signatures have been verified following a GOP lawsuit.

1053
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: Oh wow, interesting.

1054
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to we need to strengthen the Peninsular

1055
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,199
Vanguard chapter up there and start getting things done.

1056
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely something that our guys can

1057
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,119
get involved with and if anybody in the chat right

1058
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:52,960
now is listening, sign up to protect the vote for

1059
00:55:53,079 --> 00:55:55,400
this fall, particularly if you're in a swing state. We've

1060
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,559
been chilling it on the OGC streams and we think

1061
00:55:57,559 --> 00:55:59,880
it's really important. So it's the least you can do.

1062
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: Apparently, I mentioned the the o GC email yesterday. We

1063
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,679
got on the stream but we got h Well, it's good.

1064
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:14,320
You know, it's great that people are. People want to

1065
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,519
get involved. You know, they want they want information, and

1066
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:20,079
then once they get the information and they meet with

1067
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:25,000
you know, like minded people, they get they want to

1068
00:56:25,039 --> 00:56:29,079
get involved. And I think Alabama is one of the

1069
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,079
one of the chapters is leading the way. Yeah, the

1070
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:35,079
boys down the boys down there and uh down South,

1071
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:36,159
they're doing some good work.

1072
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we got some really exceptional guys. Uh in

1073
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,840
all of our chapters I've been I've been very impressed

1074
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,199
with the quality of people that have signed up and

1075
00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:48,280
have won to join in on the OGC in our chapters.

1076
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,119
There are some really impressive dudes.

1077
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1078
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,079
Speaker 1: I saw some pictures of the Virginia chapter getting together

1079
00:56:54,159 --> 00:56:55,199
today that looked like fun.

1080
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 3: I wish I could have been there.

1081
00:56:57,679 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: Yea, the Virginia guys. They definitely take on the frat

1082
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,320
boy persona quite a bit, don't they love it.

1083
00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:11,559
Speaker 1: It's great, It's great. Harvey's Harvey's great, He's hilarious. Well, anyway,

1084
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,800
let's uh, let's wrap this up. Let's uh, we could

1085
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,880
talk about this all night, but it's you know, only

1086
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,639
so much you could say about the about conservation. You know,

1087
00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:23,800
if we start trying to get down into the weeds

1088
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:27,960
when we have no power to do policy positions now.

1089
00:57:28,039 --> 00:57:34,440
But I think to me, the solutions are very simple,

1090
00:57:35,559 --> 00:57:41,079
I mean very simple. Less kick about twenty to forty

1091
00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:48,039
million people out of the country, cleaner energy, and yeah,

1092
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,679
the conservation of the environment that hunters the people who

1093
00:57:51,679 --> 00:57:58,039
are already concerned about the outdoors. Start a movement, start

1094
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:01,039
a pack, you know, maybe you know, some of these

1095
00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:04,519
pro gun packs have done really incredible things, like National

1096
00:58:04,519 --> 00:58:07,199
Association for Gun Rights here, I think maybe a National

1097
00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:11,239
Association for Gun Rights has a little offshoot of conservation

1098
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:14,639
and yeah, I mean I just think it starts and

1099
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:15,280
goes from there.

1100
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there definitely are amount of organizations that have done

1101
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,039
really good work and continue to do to do good work.

1102
00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:25,239
But there are definitely a lot of old heads you know,

1103
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,599
so things like Boone and Crocket Club, Ducks Unlimited, Rocky

1104
00:58:28,599 --> 00:58:33,199
Mountain Out Foundation, Safari Club International, Dallasafari Club. Now, all

1105
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,440
these organizations they're definitely looking for new blood. I mean

1106
00:58:36,719 --> 00:58:40,559
they're Hunting is one of those sports that is decreasing

1107
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,320
year over year because you know, like it over indexes

1108
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,199
very highly with boomers and not very millennials and zoomers

1109
00:58:47,199 --> 00:58:49,920
do it. That's partially because, like the traditions haven't been

1110
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,760
passed down. It's partially because there's a cost entry and

1111
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,039
a bearer's entry to do it. But either way, you know,

1112
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,119
our guys should be getting involved with it in any

1113
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:01,800
way they can. And the one last thing I will

1114
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,960
promote is if people want more of a hands on

1115
00:59:07,039 --> 00:59:09,199
look as to what is going to happen to the

1116
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,320
entire Third world if the white man isn't in charge

1117
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,079
of the resources there. You know, I're bringing this up recently.

1118
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:17,800
I'm just blown away that under the current regime and

1119
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,920
the current like Perst post Nuremberg order that like the

1120
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,440
United States has to respect the sovereignty of a country

1121
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,960
like Sierra Leone, and so it could just like freely

1122
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:29,719
waste all the megafauna and that country, you know, because

1123
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,960
for some reason, No, it's ridiculous here and inferior people

1124
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,199
who don't have access to those resources the same way

1125
00:59:35,199 --> 00:59:37,360
that we do, and you're just gonna waste all of them.

1126
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,519
And when the megafauna are gone, they're not coming back.

1127
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,039
But I point everyone to the excellent documentary from the

1128
00:59:43,079 --> 00:59:46,559
nineteen sixties Africa Ado. Definitely go and take a look

1129
00:59:46,599 --> 00:59:48,480
at that. That is an absolute must for anyone in

1130
00:59:48,519 --> 00:59:51,760
our circles and you will see what happens when you know,

1131
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,480
the white man leaves places like Kenya, Tanzania, Rhodesia, South

1132
00:59:55,519 --> 00:59:57,920
Africa and leaves it to native hands. What they do

1133
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,400
to the local wildlife and such, it's truly barbaric stuff.

1134
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely got to check that out. I haven't checked

1135
01:00:06,199 --> 01:00:07,760
that one out. I just wrote it down so that

1136
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,480
I can when I get a chance, I can. I'm

1137
01:00:10,519 --> 01:00:12,039
sure it's probably on YouTube, right.

1138
01:00:12,599 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's on YouTube. And I actually think

1139
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,239
that Martin Captain Driever actually tweeted out the whole documentary

1140
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:22,239
fairly recently, so people can just go and watch it

1141
01:00:22,239 --> 01:00:25,800
straight from his Twitter account. Be warned, watch it on

1142
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,920
empty stomach because there's some very barbaric scenes of Native

1143
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,119
Africans and what they tend to do to the wildlife there.

1144
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,199
So just just be warned, all.

1145
01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:40,679
Speaker 3: Right, man, I appreciate you. Take care, talks in all right.

1146
01:00:40,719 --> 01:01:21,159
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on Beat