Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 1: for the third day, cocaine is in the news.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Yes, that flunky secret Service director who is now in
Speaker 1: a closet somewhere with Debbie Wasserman. She threw out that
Speaker 1: cocaine that was found at the White House last year,
Speaker 1: and apparently her subordinates were like, no, we need to
Speaker 1: keep that. And there's a partial DNA profile and it matches.
Speaker 1: We've got hits in the national database. We could probably
Speaker 1: track down where that cocaine came from. And she said, no,
Speaker 1: we're tossing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a reason why we keep it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, she was horrible at her job. What else
Speaker 1: did she sandbag?
Speaker 4: It's a very it was Hey, listen once you start.
Speaker 4: And I think part of it is recency bias. You've
Speaker 4: had cocaine on the mind so much lately that probably
Speaker 4: you're attracted to those headlines.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, you don't think so. But maybe
Speaker 1: my computer's listening and dishes me those headlines.
Speaker 4: It is very possible, man, It's going to be a
Speaker 4: rough weekend in Georgia, South and North Carolina.
Speaker 3: They're talking about this.
Speaker 4: What was Hurricane Debbie now tropical Storm Debbie just continuing
Speaker 4: to sit there and churn off the coast.
Speaker 1: Oh and it's wreaking havage havage. It's wreaking havoc. What
Speaker 1: is havage havoc? It's a freaking havoc on flights throughout
Speaker 1: the country because of that ripple effect that we talked
Speaker 1: about happening.
Speaker 4: Ooh, and another we haven't done a lot of I
Speaker 4: should say we have done a lot of these, but
Speaker 4: not as many dam stories as we have cocaine stories.
Speaker 4: But in Colton County, South Carolina, the McGrady dam is
Speaker 4: about to break. Now, We've seen these before and they've
Speaker 4: not materialized. I'm not wishing for a dam to break
Speaker 4: usually that's not great news. But Coleton County Fire Rescue
Speaker 4: officials again in South Carolina, say that the McGrady dam
Speaker 4: is currently holding, but that there is substantial flooding in
Speaker 4: the area of the dam and the creek that resulted
Speaker 4: in a couple of roads being closed, ringing the beavers.
Speaker 4: That's going to be more than beavers, more than more.
Speaker 1: You're going to need more than several beavers.
Speaker 3: You're going to need a bigger boat.
Speaker 1: Well, the Democrats had their coming out party in that
Speaker 1: rally in Pennsylvania, and wow, what a coming out party
Speaker 1: it was. The crowd was electric. This guy, Tim Walls,
Speaker 1: the jacket does not match the book.
Speaker 3: Welcome the next Vice President of the United States, Tim Wall.
Speaker 1: And she's able to just stand behind him and smile
Speaker 1: while he's the attack dog. It's perfectly strategized. This whole
Speaker 1: optic that the Democrats have right now is really good,
Speaker 1: and it's all hiding the ball. It's a freaking shell game. Gus,
Speaker 1: what it is?
Speaker 4: I heard somebody reference this this morning, and I hadn't
Speaker 4: heard it put this way, But it makes perfect sense
Speaker 4: that a lot of times, you know, we talk about
Speaker 4: the demographic choice for a vice president to cover some
Speaker 4: bases that the presidential candidate doesn't cover. Geographic choices, Maybe
Speaker 4: there's a swing state that you need and that person
Speaker 4: represents that swing state, something along those lines, or even
Speaker 4: god forbid, there'd be a policy difference or a policy
Speaker 4: weakness that a presidential candidate has that a vice presidential
Speaker 4: candidate would be able to fill in in this The
Speaker 4: way I saw it or heard it put this morning
Speaker 4: was you pick somebody who is going to do the
Speaker 4: dirty work for you so that you can keep your
Speaker 4: nose clean.
Speaker 1: They learned from Hillary Clinton, didn't they? You cannot have
Speaker 1: an angry woman at a podium. It doesn't play, and
Speaker 1: this is the way to do it.
Speaker 4: So here here was Coach Tim Walls, Governor speaking at
Speaker 4: that rally last night in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5: JD.
Speaker 6: Vans literally literally wrote the foreword for.
Speaker 2: The arc TechEd of the Project twenty twenty five agenda.
Speaker 4: Okay, now that was confusing when I heard it, I
Speaker 4: had to I had to look it up.
Speaker 3: JD.
Speaker 4: Vance wrote a forward for a book, a fictional book
Speaker 4: by a guy who works at the Heritage Foundation. Heritage
Speaker 4: Foundation was responsible for this Project twenty twenty five piece
Speaker 4: that came out that has completely blown up. The Trump
Speaker 4: campaign has completely disavowed Project twenty twenty five, but they
Speaker 4: are still using it, which is okay. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: a political game, and a lot of stuff goes in
Speaker 4: political manners.
Speaker 6: Like all regular people I grew up with in the Heartland,
Speaker 6: JD studied at Yale, had his career funded by Silicon
Speaker 6: Valley billionaires and then wrote a bestseller trashing that community.
Speaker 3: Come on, did he trash it in the book?
Speaker 2: That's not is?
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 3: There, I got it.
Speaker 1: There were some moments where the Appalachian families and wasn't
Speaker 1: a good look. But that's just because the money evaporated
Speaker 1: from those communities, you know, the old mining communities, things
Speaker 1: like that. The business dried up. So what happens when
Speaker 1: you have people without jobs, you have drug use, you
Speaker 1: have Loserville sometimes.
Speaker 4: And he described in the way that I've seen I've
Speaker 4: not read the book, so correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 4: that part of it is sort of a doom loop,
Speaker 4: sort of a spiral where other families caught in the
Speaker 4: same circumstances that you are, look down on you. If
Speaker 4: you try to get out of it, they look down
Speaker 4: on you if you try to reach past you know,
Speaker 4: your circumstances and maybe do better, like go to Yale.
Speaker 1: The takeaway for me from that book was that these
Speaker 1: are communities that feel forgotten by the elite circles that
Speaker 1: run the political game in this country.
Speaker 4: And then he goes and becomes a member of the
Speaker 4: political elite by going to Yale. I just it was
Speaker 4: something that kind of feel it's a funny line, but
Speaker 4: it kind of fell flat. Well, there's more of this
Speaker 4: because he gets into.
Speaker 3: The couch thing.
Speaker 4: It's silliness. And then believe I want the sex with
Speaker 4: the couch thing to go to bed. Well, it's right wrong,
Speaker 4: it's dumb.
Speaker 1: And you know what's glaring to me listening to that
Speaker 1: rally is that the Democrats are done playing fair, They're
Speaker 1: done playing nice. They've taken the mantle of name calling
Speaker 1: and blow blows and they're running with that ball as well.
Speaker 1: And we are done of the days of George H. W.
Speaker 1: Bush and Bill Clinton being polite to each other and
Speaker 1: passing off the Oval office with cute little notes. And
Speaker 1: I just don't agree with him. He's a good man,
Speaker 1: but I don't agree with him. We are so done
Speaker 1: with that in this country.
Speaker 3: I don't want to rehash history.
Speaker 4: But I'm looking for an email, specifically from May of
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, and I was just going through in the
Speaker 4: break and found I found an email that says nearly
Speaker 4: two thirds of consumers say they will resume some normal activities.
Speaker 1: Why are you doing that?
Speaker 4: It's just a thing, It's just a reminder like this
Speaker 4: weird time capsule that we we've talked about weird COVID
Speaker 4: crap that we were in and we were waiting for
Speaker 4: people to quote resume some normal activities we have.
Speaker 1: How did we not drive off of a client? Know
Speaker 1: we have collective PTSD from that that had it has
Speaker 1: not been dealt with. You know, you and I got
Speaker 1: through it. I think just coming in here every day
Speaker 1: and talking about it and trying to make sense of things.
Speaker 1: Oh but could you imagine if you were just hold
Speaker 1: up in your home and how about this and not
Speaker 1: doing normal The datified.
Speaker 4: The daily emails that we would get welcome week, Welcome
Speaker 4: team to week number nine, shelter at home.
Speaker 1: Stop it, stop the spread.
Speaker 4: We were talking about Governor Tim Wallas, the new vice
Speaker 4: presidential candidate. Of course, who is It was introduced to
Speaker 4: the world last night. Still a lot of people do
Speaker 4: not know him. And like you said, the book does
Speaker 4: not match the jacket. In this case, it does. Very
Speaker 4: progressive governor who speaks like your old high school football coach.
Speaker 3: That's not what Middle America is.
Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, I.
Speaker 3: Can't wait to debate the guy.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's gonna be a good debate. I want to
Speaker 4: move it forward. There's a good ten to fifteen seconds
Speaker 4: of cheering there. He says, I want to. I can't
Speaker 4: wait to debate the guy, that is.
Speaker 2: If he's willing to get off the couch and show up.
Speaker 1: So couch joke, just to be clear, was made up.
Speaker 4: The whole thing about him having sex with a couch
Speaker 4: was a complete internet joke that people now. Don't get
Speaker 4: me wrong, it was funny, but people now think it
Speaker 4: was like, well he really wrote that in a book.
Speaker 1: Some you can only get so much mileage out of
Speaker 1: a masturbation joke. Well tell that, and when you're a
Speaker 1: dude like that, an old dude doing a masturbation Joe,
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I had no bandwidth for that.
Speaker 1: It's not funny. I don't want to associate you, Tim
Speaker 1: Walls with any sort of emissions. It's true.
Speaker 4: I wanted to play this for you because I wanted
Speaker 4: to get your reaction. He was a linebackers coach and
Speaker 4: a defensive coordinator for a high school football.
Speaker 2: So were you a position coach offensive guy as a
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator?
Speaker 3: Okay, what'd you run? Yeah, we ran a four to
Speaker 3: four where we read guards.
Speaker 2: At the time, I had really good athletes and good
Speaker 2: linebackers are your corners.
Speaker 6: They were good.
Speaker 3: That was an age when I was coaching that. You know,
Speaker 3: it was unusual to see.
Speaker 2: A twenty five hundred to three thousand yard pastor on
Speaker 2: the other side, but it was starting.
Speaker 3: To come along. So they were running the ball a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 3: your reaction, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I have no reaction to that. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: very like. I mean, I love a high school football coach.
Speaker 1: I love all football coach is when they can get
Speaker 1: into that headspace of talking football and being motivational. There's
Speaker 1: nothing political on that. Hopefully there's nothing political football. And
Speaker 1: I knew that's the guy we were going to get.
Speaker 1: Yesterday at their rally, I was I was saying, you know,
Speaker 1: this is going to be the football coach. Wells, that's
Speaker 1: what you're going to get. And that's what Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: kept referring to him as and walls.
Speaker 3: I think that is brilliantly political.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so smart. Everything they're doing is so smart
Speaker 1: and so strategic, and it's just it's very much the
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris brand.
Speaker 3: Strategic.
Speaker 4: Yes, there's a couple of things I wanted to point
Speaker 4: out we'll come back and do this regarding how you
Speaker 4: define the Midwest. Right again, this is not a race
Speaker 4: between JD. Vance and Tim Walls, but there is some
Speaker 4: value in finding out the difference between these two guys
Speaker 4: and the piece I think was in Politico today where
Speaker 4: they referred to Tim Walls as comfort food for some
Speaker 4: of the same things you're explaining, like football, high school
Speaker 4: football coach. The vast majority of us have positive memories
Speaker 4: of a high school football right. It's regardless of whether
Speaker 4: they were mean to us or not, you look back
Speaker 4: and think they helped shape that person.
Speaker 3: Right. World War three is about to break out.
Speaker 4: Dramatic video now shows Ukrainian jets and troops burging into Russia.
Speaker 4: Vladimir Putin has told members of the Russian government the
Speaker 4: Kiev regime has launched another major provocation. Putin has accused
Speaker 4: Ukrainian forces of firing indiscriminately at civilian targets. There is
Speaker 4: some concern also that there is a key nuclear plant
Speaker 4: in that area that the Ukrainians may try to take.
Speaker 1: Planning for the twenty twenty eight LA Olympics as well underway.
Speaker 1: That's going to be interesting, isn't it. Are they going
Speaker 1: to clean this place up? We're going to have to
Speaker 1: do a regular Olympics update. Are they going to pour
Speaker 1: all the billions of dollars more into that? People mover lax?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, people move her. They're going to clean up
Speaker 4: the river. They're going to do the river. It's not
Speaker 4: a river, it is it's not a river.
Speaker 3: You're so closed minded.
Speaker 4: We're talking about the big introduction. Last night, Kamala Harris
Speaker 4: of course introduces her vice presidential running mate, Governor Tim
Speaker 4: Wallas of Minnesota. And for a lot of people, it's
Speaker 4: the first time they've here heard this guy speak. And
Speaker 4: to be honest, I mean he's a he's a good speaker.
Speaker 3: He he fit that or he met that moment last night.
Speaker 4: I hate to use that term, but but he came
Speaker 4: from small town Nebraska, right. He has a medium sized
Speaker 4: state in the Midwest that he's been the governor of
Speaker 4: and he goes into this arena with thousands of people
Speaker 4: and knocks it out of the park.
Speaker 2: Minnesota strengths comes from our values, our commitment to working together,
Speaker 2: to seeing pastor differences, to always being willing to lend
Speaker 2: a helping hand. Those are the same values I learned
Speaker 2: on the family farm and tried to instill.
Speaker 1: In my students, lean it into it.
Speaker 3: I took it to.
Speaker 2: Congress and to the state Capitol, and now Vice President
Speaker 2: Harris and I are running to take those very values
Speaker 2: to the White House now, which.
Speaker 3: Is fine, I understand that.
Speaker 4: But you find me a farmer in Nebraska who wants
Speaker 4: to put tampons in boys' restrooms. Or find me one
Speaker 4: farmer in Nebraska.
Speaker 1: One farmer who may have a successful farm and maybe
Speaker 1: his neighbor does not, and taking the successful farmer's money
Speaker 1: and giving it to the neighbor who doesn't know how
Speaker 1: to use water.
Speaker 4: The guy with the two cows, you take one of
Speaker 4: his successful cows and give it to the other guy,
Speaker 4: simply because he doesn't.
Speaker 1: Have one socialism for everybody on this farm. He is
Speaker 1: not what he appears, is not. You got to do
Speaker 1: your research and the Republicans and Trump, I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's going to be able to do this to
Speaker 1: drill down on the policy points, or if he's just
Speaker 1: going to name call and go wild with conspiracy theories
Speaker 1: like he did last night on Truth Social when he
Speaker 1: made this rant about Joe Biden's going to come back
Speaker 1: and steal the election.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: My God, could.
Speaker 3: You imagine you'll just storming into the United Center.
Speaker 1: You don't need the conspiracy theories, the Republicans don't. All
Speaker 1: they need to do is drill down on what these
Speaker 1: two stand for. It's because it'll terrify the people in
Speaker 1: the middle and probably the economy.
Speaker 3: It's the economy. It's the economy.
Speaker 4: Remember at the National Association of Black Journalists, when when
Speaker 4: Trump started getting into well she was Indian and I
Speaker 4: don't know when she turned black or whatever, all he
Speaker 4: started talking about the ecologation.
Speaker 1: Just just sit there, stick to that.
Speaker 3: That's all you got to Let everybody else make their
Speaker 3: own decisions about her or whatever him is.
Speaker 1: Because right now the Democrats are putting on a hell
Speaker 1: of a show. They are shiny, they are exuberant, they've
Speaker 1: got momentum, they've got passion. But they're not talking about
Speaker 1: what their plans are.
Speaker 3: So there's a couple of pieces today that I saw.
Speaker 4: One of them was in the Washington Post and it
Speaker 4: was a question about what is the Midwest? And these
Speaker 4: guys are going to argue Jade Vance and Tim Walls
Speaker 4: are going to argue, well, I'm Midwest. No, No, I'm Midwest.
Speaker 4: And a difference between the geographic what the Census Bureau
Speaker 4: considers the Midwest, which does include Ohio and Minnesota. But
Speaker 4: what people if you were to ask people what they
Speaker 4: consider the Midwest, like, oh, why would they waste Washington
Speaker 4: Post inc On an article about what is the Midwest?
Speaker 1: I'm glad you just crumpled that up because I was
Speaker 1: going to jump across the desk and do the same
Speaker 1: thing that's asinin. Also there to show party unity was
Speaker 1: Josh Shapiro, who got passed over to be the running
Speaker 1: mate for Kamala Harris, and he sounds eerily similar to
Speaker 1: Barack Obama. Yeah, we'll play some of his stuff when
Speaker 1: we come back.
Speaker 4: I just want to also say that the other the
Speaker 4: second piece was from Politico where they described Tim Walls
Speaker 4: as comfort food because when you look at him as
Speaker 4: the football coach, the farmer, the Midwest guy, kind of,
Speaker 4: you know, no nonsense, willing to call out bad guys
Speaker 4: that he's the He's probably not wearing his sergeant's chevrons
Speaker 4: or bearing a coach's whistle over his neck, but his
Speaker 4: remarks make clear that he intends to run on his
Speaker 4: biography and regular bloke style, not his progressive legacy.
Speaker 1: And that's all the cover of the book, right, that's
Speaker 1: the pretty jacket that makes you feel good. And then
Speaker 1: you get to page twelve and little boys have tampons
Speaker 1: in their bathroom.
Speaker 5: So didn't the coach there just go up for dad
Speaker 5: vance for lifting himself up out of poverty and going
Speaker 5: Yale and making something of himself. Yes, that's funny because
Speaker 5: I thought that's why kids went to school was to study,
Speaker 5: work hard, go to good college. They're going to come
Speaker 5: after Gary's daughter next for being smart, all right, But and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my point was it was a funny line.
Speaker 4: Like all my friends they went together.
Speaker 1: Well, Kamala Harris's father was a Stanford at Econ professor
Speaker 1: and her mother was a scientist, brilliant who had several
Speaker 1: advances or helped several advances in breast cancer research.
Speaker 4: They're not and even those two are not from the
Speaker 4: same place, even though they want to tell you they're
Speaker 4: from the same place.
Speaker 3: That's what's great.
Speaker 4: I mean, Kamala Harris kept saying the words only in
Speaker 4: America last night.
Speaker 3: That was her thing. Only in America.
Speaker 4: Would I having grown up in Oakland and Canada, team
Speaker 4: up with this guy who grew up in Nebraska and Minnesota.
Speaker 1: That's what every ticket is. That's the way it should be.
Speaker 1: That's what makes us great. Yeah, what we are.
Speaker 4: Yes, there's a weird, weird thing going on with Josh Shapiro.
Speaker 1: He must have just studied the hell out of Barack
Speaker 1: Obama because the cadence is uncanny.
Speaker 3: From the Daily Show. By the way, Ronnie.
Speaker 7: Chang, listen to this guy speak, because I mean, is
Speaker 7: he is he doing an Obama?
Speaker 3: This again?
Speaker 4: The Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro super cut with former President Obama.
Speaker 2: You could not have a clear contrast between Kama Harris
Speaker 2: and Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: You deserve better than somebody who's just trying to make
Speaker 1: a quick buck, somebody willing to say anything to get attention.
Speaker 3: You deserve somebody who knows you. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3: He's pretty afraid.
Speaker 1: Yeah see, he's backing.
Speaker 3: Out of the debate.
Speaker 4: Now, he's afraid to stand toe to toe with our
Speaker 4: vice president now. He actually to me, also sounds a
Speaker 4: little bit like uh, Gavenussom Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my husband said the same thing, a.
Speaker 3: Little growley at times like Avenusom.
Speaker 1: By the way, Let's also talk about Gavin Newsom and
Speaker 1: how pissed off he is. He's been lost in all
Speaker 1: of this.
Speaker 3: I thought about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're crowning people. They were frothing at the
Speaker 1: mouth over Josh Shapiro. Walls and hairs were yesterday. I mean,
Speaker 1: that must be what happens when you get passed over.
Speaker 1: But it was just like frothing about what a wonderful
Speaker 1: person is. He's the future of the party. And somewhere
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom is sitting in his underwear, just pissed off,
Speaker 1: red faced, crying and combing his hair.
Speaker 4: All I can do is talk about a fire that
Speaker 4: burning half of my state.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if Obama asked him for his certificate.
Speaker 7: I'm like, wait, are you me? At this point, it
Speaker 7: could be smart for Harris to pick him. I mean
Speaker 7: she could be like, hey, Trump, you think I'm pretending
Speaker 7: to be black, Well check.
Speaker 3: Out my VP.
Speaker 1: That's good. He's funny, all right.
Speaker 3: The one thing that is not well.
Speaker 4: Donald Trump then tried to use the I don't even
Speaker 4: know how to pronounce what he thinks.
Speaker 1: This is comeab bluh. It's silly. It's just stupid. It's
Speaker 1: a bad look. Just stick to the tampons in the
Speaker 1: boy's bathrooms. That will be more successful than stupid. A
Speaker 1: calling just the economy or in the economy. Stick sit
Speaker 1: in the economy, Sit in that money and tampons. That's
Speaker 1: your lane.
Speaker 3: I think more money. You've been listening to The Gary
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