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If you're listening on 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,759 the podcast, this is our number two, go back and 13 00:00:41,799 --> 00:00:46,840 listen to the second half of the last hour. If 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,799 you want to know what I'm referencing here with caller Tony, 15 00:00:52,679 --> 00:00:59,640 I really got the sense of goodness and the Lord 16 00:01:01,039 --> 00:01:06,840 just exuding Tony's presence, you know, it just it really 17 00:01:06,879 --> 00:01:13,840 came through as a self described, you know, religious person, 18 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,599 as he said he was praying all the time for 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,519 the Lord to take out Donald Trump. Yeah, because that's 20 00:01:21,519 --> 00:01:24,359 what Christians do, although he didn't actually say Christians, so 21 00:01:24,599 --> 00:01:26,719 he may believe in a different kind of God maybe, 22 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:31,040 so I might be assuming that, but for the record, 23 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,560 because I know I wasn't on the air here in 24 00:01:33,719 --> 00:01:39,519 Charlotte in twenty fifteen, in twenty sixteen, in twenty seventeen 25 00:01:40,599 --> 00:01:46,000 and twenty eighteen, In twenty nineteen and then twenty twenty 26 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:52,760 when I was saying all sorts of critical things about 27 00:01:52,799 --> 00:01:58,239 Donald Trump, I was not a fan of Donald Trump. 28 00:01:58,599 --> 00:02:01,840 In twenty fifteen, I told my boss at the time 29 00:02:01,959 --> 00:02:06,799 up in Ashville that I might very well lose my 30 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,599 job over this election because I was going full bore 31 00:02:12,759 --> 00:02:17,159 against Donald Trump in their GOP primary. I brought out 32 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,639 all of the stuff that you could think, all of 33 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,319 the attacks, all of the information from the bankruptcies to 34 00:02:25,439 --> 00:02:30,520 the eminent domain stuff, to the affiliations with the no 35 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:35,680 neck Eastern Europe bodyguards that would follow him around, the 36 00:02:35,719 --> 00:02:38,560 mafia ties. I mean, look, the guy was a casino 37 00:02:38,719 --> 00:02:42,639 owner in New Jersey. Give me a break. He's building 38 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,240 buildings in the Tri state area. You think that he 39 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,879 doesn't have connections like that. Of course he does. About 40 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:52,360 the fight, the near brawl that occurred backstage at a 41 00:02:52,439 --> 00:02:55,800 Rolling Stones concert at one of the Trump properties because 42 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,360 they refused to play if Trump showed up and then 43 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,560 Trump showed up, there's going to be the big brawl, 44 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,479 and Keith Richards was picking up a knife to go 45 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:08,680 stab some people his tiny hands. That was remember that 46 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:11,479 with the fight that Marco Rubio had with the tiny 47 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,240 hands and all of that, because Trump was apparently very 48 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,120 sensitive to it. I have gone through all of the 49 00:03:18,159 --> 00:03:24,280 anti Trump stuff. I have did it all and with 50 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:30,680 full understanding and recognition that my audience, a majority I 51 00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:35,599 think of the audience wanted Trump. They wanted Donald Trump, 52 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,599 and it put me at odds with a large portion 53 00:03:39,719 --> 00:03:43,639 of my audience for almost two straight years from the 54 00:03:43,639 --> 00:03:46,560 primary and then through the election. But when he won, 55 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,960 it's like, okay, now let's see what happens. See here's 56 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,599 the thing, though, I recognized that, Okay, this guy won 57 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,800 and there are people that like him, and so I'm 58 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,680 going to be critical of things that he does, which, 59 00:03:57,719 --> 00:04:00,560 by the way, I have I've like, remember we did 60 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,879 a couple of shows here on the tariffs. Didn't think 61 00:04:04,919 --> 00:04:09,960 that's a great idea. So I am critical of Donald Trump. 62 00:04:10,039 --> 00:04:12,800 See here's the thing, though, I don't allow Donald Trump 63 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,000 to dictate the way I think about an issue. Just 64 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,199 because Trump says something doesn't mean I have to agree, 65 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:24,120 and it doesn't mean I have to disagree. That's called 66 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:29,079 Trump derangement syndrome. It goes both directions. It goes both directions. 67 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:31,800 People think in terms of oh a TDS is only 68 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,360 you know people who hate Trump. 69 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:33,639 Speaker 2: No. 70 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:36,639 Speaker 1: No, it goes the other direction too. When anything that 71 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,519 Trump says you have to believe because Trump said it. No, 72 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,600 then you're allowing this man right to control your brain 73 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:47,040 as well. Don't let anybody do that. 74 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: Right. 75 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,399 Speaker 1: He's going to be wrong on some things, He's going 76 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:54,720 to be right on some things. Make your own assessments. 77 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,000 Been very clear about that. See but Tony, he doesn't 78 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:02,240 listen to every single you Know episode, which is very 79 00:05:02,319 --> 00:05:05,040 hurtful because you can download the podcast for free at 80 00:05:05,079 --> 00:05:08,240 the peapod dot com and then you can hear me 81 00:05:08,319 --> 00:05:11,079 talk about the various things. See here's here. Here's one 82 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,920 of the things that I sort of try to use 83 00:05:13,959 --> 00:05:18,560 as a as a guiding star for myself is and 84 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:21,920 this is in in not just the aspect of doing 85 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:28,519 the show, but in all kinds of news assessment and analysis. 86 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:33,800 It is to not really talk so much about the individuals, 87 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,920 but rather the ideas and if you if you take 88 00:05:38,959 --> 00:05:41,560 the individuals out of it. I'm not saying you ignore it. 89 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,720 I'm saying if you take the individual personalities out of 90 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,079 a particular issue, and you try to assess the issue 91 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,360 strictly based on the merits of the idea, right, what 92 00:05:51,439 --> 00:05:53,879 are the arguments for and against it, what are the 93 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:59,360 different angles, and then layer into that your incentives. You 94 00:05:59,399 --> 00:06:01,839 try to look at the people, their personalities, their you 95 00:06:01,879 --> 00:06:05,720 know their past performance, things that they have said, and 96 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:07,839 you layer that in, and then you layer in what 97 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,720 is as best you can tell the the incentives that 98 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:15,040 these people may have to take various positions. But I 99 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:18,680 also try not to ascribe motive, which Tony seems perfectly 100 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,120 willing and happy to do when it comes to Donald Trump. 101 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,240 And the motive is always evil, right, But that's another thing, 102 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:31,439 is like when you're talking about human beings, we're complex, right. 103 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:36,399 People do things that are good and they do things 104 00:06:36,399 --> 00:06:40,040 that are bad. And so this black and white view 105 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,319 that Trump said something or Trump did something, and so 106 00:06:45,399 --> 00:06:48,040 there and I hate Trump, and so therefore it's because 107 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,839 fill in the blank. You're ascribing a motive as Tony 108 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,600 did there ascribing a motive to Donald Trump, which was racism. 109 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,600 He said he's racist. And what was his example, Well, 110 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:03,519 that he took money from it's what charity program or 111 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:11,160 aid program or grant program that affected minorities. And what 112 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,279 did I say in response? I said, they're cutting stuff 113 00:07:14,279 --> 00:07:16,839 for everybody. It's across the board, it's every department. They're 114 00:07:16,879 --> 00:07:21,120 trying to cut everything, so it's not targeted. And he 115 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,879 didn't care about that. It didn't matter. Facts shall not matter, 116 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,399 because once I ascribe the motive of racism, then I 117 00:07:27,519 --> 00:07:31,720 reject all information. There is no difference here in the 118 00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:40,759 mental protocol that Tony is running than conspiracy theorists. They 119 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,199 take all information and the information that supports their theory 120 00:07:45,879 --> 00:07:49,040 they incorporate, they adopt and believe it to be true, 121 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:54,600 and if there's any evidence that proves otherwise, then that 122 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,879 becomes evidence of their conspiracy in that somebody must have 123 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,879 planted it. Right, They come up with excuses to ignore it, 124 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,639 to dismiss it. Oh, that's what they want me to think, right, 125 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:15,000 is so it becomes an unprovable theory or unfalsifiable. That's 126 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,360 what Tony is trapped in. And it's sad to me. 127 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:24,199 That's sad, especially when you think of like how much 128 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,360 anger he must carry, and misery he must experience to 129 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:35,480 have all of these thoughts and feelings tied to a 130 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:39,919 single guy up in Washington, d C. That Tony has 131 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:46,480 no way to influence or impact. He's impotent and it's 132 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:51,240 just impotent rage. And that's said. And so I'll pray 133 00:08:51,279 --> 00:08:57,879 for you, Tony, for healing, for guidance, right for comfort 134 00:08:57,879 --> 00:09:02,200 and peace, because you shouldn't let you shouldn't let other 135 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,559 people dictate your emotions and your feelings on a day 136 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,879 to day basis. But this is a problem I think 137 00:09:10,919 --> 00:09:13,919 with so much of the folks on the left. This 138 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,279 is where they live because they don't handle loss in 139 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,799 elections very well. They just don't. No, I'm not saying 140 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:24,360 everybody on the right does either, but by and large 141 00:09:24,519 --> 00:09:26,600 people on the left, I mean, you guys call yourselves 142 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,960 the resistance. You're being led around by a bunch of 143 00:09:31,039 --> 00:09:36,200 overgrown theater kids that are captive to their emotions, that 144 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:43,759 are stunted. Grow up, seriously, grow up, think for yourselves. 145 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,440 And everything that Donald Trump says doesn't have to be 146 00:09:48,519 --> 00:09:51,960 evil or incorrect. He can say things that are incorrect, sure, 147 00:09:52,639 --> 00:09:58,759 I know he does. However, not everything he says. And 148 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,000 you could be wrong too. 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Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, 169 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,679 but it also supports ground News as they make the 170 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,759 media landscape more transparent. Boy, do I have a lot 171 00:11:10,799 --> 00:11:19,960 of messages regarding Tony call her Tony D S. Stewart says, 172 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:24,200 Tony qualifies as a great candidate for the Charlotte City Council. 173 00:11:27,639 --> 00:11:31,440 It's all a distraction, It's a Pete tweet. It's all 174 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:37,279 a distraction, says Will Tony believe Uh? Oh, will Tony 175 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,519 believe it? Out of Pelosi's own mouth? I doubt it, 176 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:47,000 but yes, Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi on not having the 177 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,960 National Guard at the Capitol on January sixth, quote, I 178 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,720 take responsibility for not having them. Just prepare for more. 179 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:04,399 Andy says, Tony needs to know that the Capitol police 180 00:12:04,799 --> 00:12:07,960 up in d C had asked Pelosi for the national Guard. 181 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,879 It was well over an hour before she gave a response, 182 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:19,720 which was no. And then Michael says, Tony using his 183 00:12:19,759 --> 00:12:23,440 direct connection to God to destroy what he dislikes. It's amazing. 184 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,639 He openly admits that he prays that God basically kills Trump, 185 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,360 as we say in the South, bless his heart. Yeah, 186 00:12:29,759 --> 00:12:36,639 there is a certain kind of derangement delusion. I think 187 00:12:38,279 --> 00:12:42,200 when people think that somehow or another they can call 188 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:50,240 upon God to kill people for them. I think you've 189 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:56,080 got that relationship inverted. You know. Again, I'm not sure 190 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,879 what religion he is or thinks he is, but that 191 00:13:00,159 --> 00:13:04,679 does not comport with with any iteration of Christianity that 192 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:10,679 I've heard. The Hellian calls it trump arousal syndrome. Yeah that, yeah, 193 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:16,480 that might be closer to the Russ says, it's probably 194 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:19,240 not fair. But the pattern I'm seeing in your callers 195 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,639 has me questioning actual longtime friends of mine who are 196 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:24,279 named Tony. 197 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:24,519 Speaker 2: That. 198 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a couple of them some emails now. 199 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,399 Jason says, the left have an issue with how they 200 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,919 see themselves. They see themselves as ultimate good, so anything 201 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:42,320 that opposes them is bad, and in the service of 202 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,240 accomplishing something good, it is okay to do something that 203 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,799 is bad. It's a progressive paradox. Yeah, I've talked about 204 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:52,240 this too. This was the you know, the framing of 205 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:56,240 Donald Trump as literally Hitler, right, And it was the 206 00:13:56,279 --> 00:14:00,919 same thing during the punch and nas punch a Nazi craze. 207 00:14:02,159 --> 00:14:10,399 And in philosophy there's and ethics discussion, there's a there's 208 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,919 a long time example. You know, you have a time machine, 209 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,200 you can go back in time and do you kill 210 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:21,240 baby Hitler? Right, that's the question, and then you test 211 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,919 various responses based on ethics and such and whatever. And 212 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,279 I'm not going to get into the actual you know, 213 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:33,200 hashing out of the question. But when you give a 214 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:38,399 permission structure under this heading of so and so is 215 00:14:38,519 --> 00:14:42,960 Hitler and all their supporters are Nazis, you've now created 216 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,080 the permission structure to do any manner of things because 217 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,399 you've elevated this person to like the worst person that 218 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,600 ever walked the earth, responsible for tens of millions of 219 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:01,840 people's deaths. And so, now, what wouldn't you do to 220 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,600 prevent the next holocaust? What wouldn't you do to save 221 00:15:05,679 --> 00:15:07,840 the lives of ten million people? Now? I would also 222 00:15:07,879 --> 00:15:10,480 point out that they never play this game with Stalin. 223 00:15:10,759 --> 00:15:15,039 They never play this game with Marx, Karl Marx, not 224 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,519 Richard like. But they never play this game with those figures. 225 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,559 It's always Hitler because to the left, Hitler is of 226 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,080 the right, even though he was a socialist national socialist. 227 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,519 And then they reject that too. Socialism has never really 228 00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:33,639 been tried, you know. So that's the reason why they've 229 00:15:33,679 --> 00:15:36,720 got this violence fetish that has been bubbling up and 230 00:15:36,759 --> 00:15:41,919 has now rerupted. Whether it's you know, on college campuses, 231 00:15:42,039 --> 00:15:45,679 whether it's you know, dousing people with gasoline because they're Jewish. 232 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,240 You know, whatever the rationale is they are murdering a 233 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:55,080 healthcare CEO in the middle of the street, doesn't matter. 234 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,159 They because they've given themselves permission to do these things 235 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:06,320 because you are so evil, and they are the determiners 236 00:16:06,679 --> 00:16:12,080 of what is evil. They're not evil. Your evil. You 237 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,840 want to stop me from, you know, if I'm on 238 00:16:16,879 --> 00:16:19,399 the left and you want to stop me from, you know, 239 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:23,759 pumping some thirteen year old with hormones and you know, 240 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,799 having them go through transition surgeries and stuff, and you 241 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,919 want to stop me from doing that, Well, that makes 242 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,559 you the evil person, right. They are always the hero 243 00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:39,679 or the victim, never the villain. Never the villain. Kirk 244 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,840 wants to know what is it with dudes named Tony 245 00:16:41,879 --> 00:16:45,840 who call your show? Oh, I don't know, I don't know, 246 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:52,759 and this is from you, I don't know who this 247 00:16:52,799 --> 00:16:59,159 is from Steve. Tony's Trump derangement syndrome is so bad 248 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,960 that he has justified in his mind that it's okay 249 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,279 to pray for somebody to be killed. This has to 250 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:06,319 be a new level of low. I don't know what 251 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,839 Bible Tony reads, but it can't be the same one 252 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,039 that I read. He's so messed up that he can't 253 00:17:11,039 --> 00:17:13,000 stand the thought that Trump could be saved and would 254 00:17:13,039 --> 00:17:15,480 be in heaven with him. How backwards thinking is that 255 00:17:15,799 --> 00:17:18,079 if he thinks Trump is that bad, instead of praying 256 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,359 that he comes to know the Lord instead, yeah, instead 257 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,319 of praying that he comes to know the Lord as 258 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,519 a savior, he's praying for him to be killed. I 259 00:17:26,519 --> 00:17:30,680 don't care how you justified medical or not. That's wrong. Yeah. See, 260 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,119 Tony thought he was being clever by having this little 261 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,720 carve out. No, no, no, I'm not saying somebody needs to 262 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,400 do go do something to him. I'm just hoping that 263 00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:44,440 God does it like That's That's not a carve out, Tony. 264 00:17:44,599 --> 00:17:49,680 Doesn't work like that, doesn't work like that. John says, 265 00:17:49,799 --> 00:17:52,039 I am still not sure that Trump is good for 266 00:17:52,039 --> 00:17:55,680 the country. I do, however, believe he is great for 267 00:17:55,799 --> 00:17:58,920 bringing out the true colors of the left, and that's 268 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,039 good for the country. Here's a great idea. 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Yeah. 296 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:43,240 So East Charlotte resident Vincent Colb is interviewed by The 297 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:48,400 Charlotte Observer by Abby Pender, and Colb says his grandmother 298 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:51,839 crossed the border without documentation so illegally. She was an 299 00:19:51,839 --> 00:19:55,880 illegal alien one hundred years ago, and her dream was 300 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,680 simple to not get caught. No, I'm kidding, it was 301 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,240 a better life for her children. That's the real immigrant 302 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,880 story of America, not the one that is being purposed 303 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,759 and propagandized by the current administration. See there you go. 304 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,720 That's what we call in rhetoric. That is a false dichotomy. 305 00:20:16,079 --> 00:20:21,480 It is a false choice. I have more than two options, right, 306 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:29,480 your abuela story that she crossed just for a better life. 307 00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:32,559 And then there are also some who cross for different 308 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,759 reasons like human trafficking, drug smuggling, set up operations across 309 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:41,480 the border to expand their criminal enterprise. There are different 310 00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:45,480 reasons why people come. I don't have to pick between 311 00:20:45,799 --> 00:20:50,119 whatever two choices you want me to choose from. So 312 00:20:50,799 --> 00:20:54,759 Vincent joined about forty people. Forty there are tens of 313 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,279 us okay, outside of the Charlotte Mecklelberg Government Center on 314 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:05,240 Monday to rally against ice raids across the country and 315 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:10,039 President Donald Trump's deployment of the National Guard in Los Angeles. Yeah, 316 00:21:10,279 --> 00:21:15,079 so we're to the reporter here, Abby Pender and all 317 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,039 reporters covering this story. When people go out and say 318 00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:22,039 that they are protesting the ice raids, what they are 319 00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:25,440 protesting is the enforcement of law. And honestly, it's not 320 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,759 that big of a surprise. These are the same people 321 00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:32,799 that were protesting five years ago law enforcement officers. So 322 00:21:32,839 --> 00:21:36,400 it's very much on brand to oppose enforcement of the law. 323 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:41,279 Right California, So I went over the details on the 324 00:21:41,319 --> 00:21:46,440 California Attorney General Rob Bunta, who sued over the deployment 325 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,079 of the National Guard and they wanted an injunction to 326 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,599 stop it. They lost. That case will be heard tomorrow. 327 00:21:54,839 --> 00:22:00,960 And there's another guy, the lead organizer for the Charlotte rally, 328 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:10,039 Jacob Plittman, lead organizer with SEIU thirty two BJ I 329 00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:12,200 guess that's the chapter he said today. We are here 330 00:22:12,279 --> 00:22:14,200 to show that this is not going to fly in 331 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,920 this country. It's not going to fly in the city 332 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,200 of Charlotte, and we demand that they stop the reids. Okay, 333 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,880 how about no pound sand buddy. Just because you demand 334 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,519 it doesn't mean it happens. Just because you say it 335 00:22:28,559 --> 00:22:32,240 doesn't make it true. God, but I'm the SEIU. I 336 00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:34,680 know you got a lot of sway in California look 337 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:40,240 at Los Angeles, but not so much here. Okay, just 338 00:22:40,279 --> 00:22:44,640 because you don't want your roles to be depleted? Oh 339 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,839 did I mention that? Yeah? The unions, the SEIU, they 340 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:55,240 benefit greatly from illegal immigration. You know who else does? 341 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,680 The teachers Union. That may be why they are one 342 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,839 of the organizers of the Big Rise Up Day, the 343 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:09,200 nationwide Day of defiance slated for Saturday, a thousand protests. 344 00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:12,720 They're calling for everybody to rise up and stand in 345 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:19,400 solidarity with Los Angeles. How about no on that one too. 346 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,319 The primary organizer has received millions of dollars from George Soros. 347 00:23:24,319 --> 00:23:29,000 According to Corey DeAngelis, the Indivisible Project, I mentioned them 348 00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:32,359 last hour. One of their representatives was quoted by the 349 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,279 Charlotte Observer as merely an activist, just an activist who 350 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:42,079 was at the legislature, but also was part of Democracy 351 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:48,559 Out Loud Indivisible. That's this. The Indivisible Project has received 352 00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:52,759 millions of dollars from George Soros and Randy Winingarden, the 353 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:57,440 head of the AFT. The American Federation of Teachers just 354 00:23:57,519 --> 00:24:02,839 held a town hall mobilizing protest with the Indivisible Director 355 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:10,319 executive director Lee Greenberg. So those are your connections the unions. Oh, 356 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,640 and the reason why the teachers' union relies on illegal 357 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:20,279 immigrants is because student enrollment. Yes, student enrollment figures are 358 00:24:20,319 --> 00:24:24,079 inflated when you have more legal immigrants coming into the 359 00:24:24,079 --> 00:24:28,720 country and sending their kids to the schools. That population 360 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,839 count increases the amount of teachers that have to be staffed. 361 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,160 That then increases the union's ability to extract money from 362 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:43,559 their paychecks. See look for the incentives. That's what I 363 00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:47,839 was talking about earlier. Look for ideas try to get 364 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,559 at what is the idea and then look at the 365 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,279 incentive structure that exists for people to behave in certain 366 00:24:54,319 --> 00:25:02,920 ways that benefit themselves. Plitman, one of the the SEIU 367 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,759 guy here in Charlotte, says the economy of the United 368 00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:10,319 States does not function without immigrants, saying, Charlotte grocery stores, 369 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,480 airport operations, and cleaning services all rely on immigrant labor, right, 370 00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:18,000 and that's illegal. That's illegal. They're not supposed to be. 371 00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:23,559 Charlotte's growth, he says, is thanks to immigrant labor. He 372 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,039 called on local officials to better support immigrants and on 373 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:31,599 count community members to peacefully demonstrate. This is part of 374 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,119 the Rising Up Day of Action. It's set for Saturday, 375 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:43,599 the AFT they're calling it No King's Day. Yeah, okay, 376 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,160 it's so stupid. 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Mail orders 397 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,880 are accepted to get all the details that create a 398 00:26:58,039 --> 00:27:01,680 video dot com Dave, Welcome to the program. 399 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 2: Hello Dave, Hey, Pete. Thanks you having a good afternoon. 400 00:27:05,519 --> 00:27:08,079 Speaker 1: No, you know it's a fair to Midland. That's all right. 401 00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 2: I hear you, I hear you. Well, Hey, I got 402 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,720 the four to one one on Tony. Oh, I've been listening. 403 00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:17,000 I've been listening to BT for twenty five years and 404 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,319 he he's a call in during Larsen's show. His name 405 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,720 is Sean. That's probably not his real name, but anyway. 406 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,079 Speaker 1: But he's a Sean too. 407 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's Sean, and he used a couple of names 408 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,400 on on. But I know the voice he called in 409 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,000 so many times on Martians show. 410 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: I know the way. 411 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,519 Speaker 2: It's the same guy. It's the same guy. He's just 412 00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:42,559 if I can call him this. He's just a twarp. 413 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,160 I hope the SEC doesn't call you. 414 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,039 Speaker 1: No, No, you're fine. Twarp is totally allowed to. 415 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:52,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just a he's a twarp seminar caller. Yeah, no, anyway. 416 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: I know I appreciate it. It look I like, I know 417 00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:58,359 when somebody when I start engaging with him and he 418 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,680 starts saying the stuff he says, like, I know how 419 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,119 the call is going to go, And so all I 420 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,599 do is, you know, I let him. I let him 421 00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:10,640 try to make his argument. Of course he doesn't, he's 422 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,559 incapable of doing so. But I do it because I 423 00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:17,519 want people to hear Dave hung up. Thanks for the call, Dave, 424 00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:20,759 I do it because I want people to hear. Because 425 00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:22,880 I get messages from people that say, why do you 426 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,240 let him on? I hate him, he's terrible, he's an idiot, whatever. 427 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:30,799 You shouldn't waste time with him. But see, I want 428 00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:34,319 to hear it. I want to hear what they're saying. 429 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,079 This is why I look at what they say on 430 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,200 social media. I read their publications, right, I want to 431 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,680 see all of the angles. I want to hear their arguments. 432 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,799 And that's why when people like Tony or Sean whatever 433 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,599 his name is, when he calls in and people you 434 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,200 know of that political philosophy call in, I am not 435 00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:59,119 blindsided by their arguments. I already know what their argument is, 436 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,160 already know the weaknesses of their arguments. That's the point. 437 00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:07,200 And I do that so this way, hopefully you hear 438 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,319 these arguments and the way I engage with the argument 439 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,319 and the person making it, and that equips you. That's 440 00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:20,079 the point. That's what I like, seriously, and I have 441 00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:24,319 never been shy about telling people like I do not 442 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,000 have those debates with Tony or Sean or whoever, like 443 00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:32,559 I don't have those debates in order to convince him 444 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,640 that he is wrong I'm doing it for the other 445 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:41,039 people that are hearing the debate. Some people may get 446 00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:43,440 something out of it. Oh that's a good argument. Oh 447 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,519 that's a good response. Oh Pete really screwed that one up. 448 00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:49,359 He should have said this something else. Whatever. That's the 449 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,559 reason I do it, and that's the reason I try 450 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:54,359 to be as prepared as I can be after, you know, 451 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,400 only working three hours a day, as I am known 452 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:05,799 to do. Community members are calling on Charlotte Mecklenburg schools 453 00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:11,039 to do more to protect immigrant students. Once again, Charlotte Observer, 454 00:30:11,799 --> 00:30:16,559 this is reporter Rebecca Noel. It's not immigrant students, it's 455 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:23,319 illegal immigrant students. Illegal immigrant students because if they are 456 00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:28,119 birthright citizenship kids, they were born in America. Well, they're 457 00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:34,720 not immigrant students, they're Americans. So your headline groups ask 458 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:41,279 CMS permission to pass out immigration information. And then the 459 00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:44,359 story begins that they want CMS to do more to 460 00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:48,960 protect immigrant students after a parent was detained near a 461 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:54,079 school this month, like, oh, it's just some parent, right again. 462 00:30:54,359 --> 00:31:04,599 This muddying of the truth journalisms students are doing it 463 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,240 is so destructive. This is why people don't trust you. 464 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,519 They go on to say a key point for multiple 465 00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:16,680 public speakers at the recent Board of ED meeting is 466 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,920 that CMS is the only school district of the twenty 467 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,279 largest in the nation that prohibits community organizations from giving 468 00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:28,559 out know your Rights information to families. That's according to 469 00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:33,400 an analysis by Amy Hawn Nelson, an education researcher at 470 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,440 the University of Pennsylvania who lives in Charlotte. That's a 471 00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:40,079 nice gig, I guess. The information typically tells people, regardless 472 00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:43,640 of immigration status, how to exercise their rights, particularly when 473 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:50,039 interacting with law enforcement and immigration officials. Parents and community organizers, 474 00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:54,240 of course, said they've been prohibited from distributing information about 475 00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:58,519 people's immigration rights. Organizers said the district claim the materials 476 00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:03,160 provided legal guidance and therefore violated policy. Yeah that you're 477 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,799 not allowed to provide legal guidance because you're not a lawyer. 478 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,960 All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 479 00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:14,000 so much for listening. I could not do the show 480 00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:16,559 without your support and the support of the businesses that 481 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,720 advertise on the podcast, So if you'd like, please support 482 00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:21,400 them too and tell them you heard it here. You 483 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,079 can also become a patron at my Patreon page or 484 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,799 go to thepetecleanershow dot com again, thank you so much 485 00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:31,440 for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.