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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your pudding. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,

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<v Speaker 1>my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 1>the fence and he was dead. And once you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling

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<v Speaker 1>around out here? Did you see what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Or was it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>quice you better, or hello, get somebody out here. What

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<v Speaker 1>one on out there? It's thought of a bitch of

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<v Speaker 1>about sixty fort nine. I don't know easy out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm looking right out tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to share with you some encounters that people

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<v Speaker 3>have between nineteen seventy eight into nineteen seventy nine, a

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<v Speaker 3>series of encounters that would go on to captivate an

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<v Speaker 3>entire town, an entire area with fear.

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<v Speaker 2>And this fear was brought on by an.

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<v Speaker 3>Unknold creature that would howl and wail and scream into

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<v Speaker 3>the night, a creature who, during hours of darkness in

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<v Speaker 3>the shadows, would trowl and stalk around people's properties, a

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<v Speaker 3>creature that would kill animals, and a creature that was

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<v Speaker 3>bold enough to sometimes show itself during daytime hours. These

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<v Speaker 3>incidents occurred in and around my hometown of Kazer in

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<v Speaker 3>North Carolina, which sits at the very base of the

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<v Speaker 3>South Mountains mountain range under thousand acres of wilderness here

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<v Speaker 3>in the foothills of western Odclina, and many believes that

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<v Speaker 3>this all started during this timeframe, near a place called

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<v Speaker 3>Coffiner's Knob, which sets at the eastern end of the

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<v Speaker 3>South Mountains. On this cold December morning of nineteen seventy eight,

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<v Speaker 3>a lady eighty eight years of age by the name

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<v Speaker 3>of Miss Minnie Cook would have an encounter that she

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<v Speaker 3>never forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>She heard her dogs outside barking.

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<v Speaker 3>It was clear they was upset about, so so she

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<v Speaker 3>went out to investigate. She saw a large, black hair

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<v Speaker 3>covered creature, and at first she didn't know what to

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<v Speaker 3>make of it because it appeared to be down on

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<v Speaker 3>all fours until it stood up and it stared her

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<v Speaker 3>down from that day forward, miss Cook wouldn't go outside

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<v Speaker 3>unless she was rible to rifle, and she went on

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<v Speaker 3>record as saying that she wished she had never saw it,

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<v Speaker 3>and that she hoped she never saw it again, and

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<v Speaker 3>that anyone else that saw this creature would feel the

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<v Speaker 3>same as she did. But miss Cook was merely the

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<v Speaker 3>first person to report such an encounter.

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<v Speaker 2>I've interviewed many people over.

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<v Speaker 3>The past four and a half to five years, and

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<v Speaker 3>I am thoroughly convinced that these encounters were already occurring before.

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<v Speaker 3>We're seeing this creature, and we're certainly hearing this creature,

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<v Speaker 3>which was the most commonly reported thing, these frightening howls

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<v Speaker 3>in the dead of night, terrifying high pitched screams and

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<v Speaker 3>grunning noises, and these weird howls that would end in

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<v Speaker 3>a crescendo of yodling lonesome whales, bellowing yells like a

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<v Speaker 3>bull bellowing.

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<v Speaker 2>And as a witness of these type of sounds.

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<v Speaker 3>In the dead of night, I will assure you that

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<v Speaker 3>it invokes a hair raising fear, knowing that something is

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<v Speaker 3>out there that's capable of making these sounds that are

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<v Speaker 3>not attributable to any known wildlife. Matter of fact, the

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<v Speaker 3>things that I've heard echoing off of these mountains and

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<v Speaker 3>echoing in these creek bottoms, and these hollers still echo

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<v Speaker 3>in my mind to this day.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The reported sightings during this time frame, near as I

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<v Speaker 3>can figure, were upwards of.

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<v Speaker 2>Around eighteen or twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>But many others, no doubt, had experiences, whether it was

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<v Speaker 3>the vocalizations or finding footprints or actual sightings of the creature.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing, the fact that multiple people went

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<v Speaker 3>on record and reported all of these encounters, it speaks

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<v Speaker 3>volumes to me.

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<v Speaker 2>The folks around here are mountain foothills people.

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<v Speaker 3>They are people that value privacy, that value self reliance,

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<v Speaker 3>and frankly, there's an enduring mistrust of authority, high reluctance

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<v Speaker 3>to reach out to the authorities, to the government for

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<v Speaker 3>any reason whatsoever. So the fact that so many people

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<v Speaker 3>did reach out and make reports and talk to the

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<v Speaker 3>press tells me that they were worried and afraid in

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<v Speaker 3>that ever reaching out for help. So let's talk about

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<v Speaker 3>some of these incidents. Start with Miss Sally White. On

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<v Speaker 3>January sixteenth of nineteen seventy nine, she heard her dogs

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<v Speaker 3>barking ferociously like miss Minnie Cook, she was keenly aware

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<v Speaker 3>that something was wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's a common thing.

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<v Speaker 3>The dogs alert you first, So if you live out

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<v Speaker 3>near the deep wilderness, it behooves you to pay attention.

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<v Speaker 2>To your dogs and your animals, so they may very

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<v Speaker 2>well tip you off to something that's about to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>But miss White went out to investigate, and there she

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<v Speaker 3>saw it, a large black creature walking on two legs,

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<v Speaker 3>and she reported the incident. But come to find out,

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<v Speaker 3>it was not her first time. She had two previous

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<v Speaker 3>sightings of this creature that she did not report, but

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<v Speaker 3>finally with the third sighting, it compelled her to reach

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<v Speaker 3>out and notify the authorities and to tell people about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Also during this time period, a gentleman by the name

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<v Speaker 3>of mister Forrest Price founded.

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<v Speaker 2>One of his goats dead, and the goat died in

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<v Speaker 2>a horrible fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>It had a broken neck, something that we've seen around

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<v Speaker 3>here mainly with deer finding deer in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>nowhere that had its neck snapped, ribs fractured, legs broken.

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<v Speaker 3>But mister Price had noticed several nights prior that something

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<v Speaker 3>had been stalking his property and prowling around. It was

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<v Speaker 3>upsetting his animals. As a matter of fact, it upset

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<v Speaker 3>his mule so bad that the mule broke the rope

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<v Speaker 3>that it was tethered with and ran off in fright.

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<v Speaker 3>But he also found footprints, and then there was his

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<v Speaker 3>brother Sammy, and mister Sammy Price had a day when

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<v Speaker 3>he heard these scary vocalizations, these sounds, these screams, and

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<v Speaker 3>then along about dark he saw it. He saw this hairy,

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<v Speaker 3>upright creature and at a distance he was able to

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<v Speaker 3>observe it for about fifteen minutes, and the creature finally

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<v Speaker 3>went out of sight. But all night long he had

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<v Speaker 3>to hear that creature screaming at a highly. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>he nodded off to sleep. At one point, then there

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<v Speaker 3>was a scream that was so loud.

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<v Speaker 2>And so close that before he knew it, he had

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<v Speaker 2>come up out of the bedroom was standing on the floor.

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<v Speaker 3>The night finally ended, but the creature wasn't through. It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't through with him and his family. The next day

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<v Speaker 3>he was gone, and his wife began to hear these

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<v Speaker 3>terrible sounds, and she went outside and they're off in

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<v Speaker 3>the distance in the soybean field. She saw this creature,

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<v Speaker 3>this hairy creature that many described it looking somewhat human like.

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<v Speaker 3>She saw it, and it was in the field and

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<v Speaker 3>it appeared to be foraging for food. January fifteenth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>seventy nine, a lady by the name of Gay Smith

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<v Speaker 3>and her two sisters was traveling Old Highway ten, very

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<v Speaker 3>close to where I lived, and her sister Wanda, started

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<v Speaker 3>screaming all of a sudden, and then it took several

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<v Speaker 3>moments for her to explain what she was so upset about.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, I saw a monster, and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Ladies remarkably turned the car around and went back to

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<v Speaker 3>the side. There was a farm pond on the far

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<v Speaker 3>end of the pond. On the dam, there was this hairy,

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<v Speaker 3>humanoid looking creature that was squatting and had something white,

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<v Speaker 3>either a dead bird. They thought it might be a bag,

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<v Speaker 3>or they wasn't sure. Gay Smith got out of the car.

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<v Speaker 3>She started walking towards the creature and got to within

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and fifty feet of it. The creature got

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<v Speaker 3>up and then walked down the other side of the

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<v Speaker 3>dam and disappeared. The time period of nineteen seventy eight

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<v Speaker 3>into nineteen seventy nine was a particularly unsettling and fearful

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<v Speaker 3>time for the residents in and around the South Mountains

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<v Speaker 3>mountain range of western North Carolina, which is part of

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<v Speaker 3>the Appalachan Foothills, and also for the residents in and

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<v Speaker 3>around my hometown of Kaser. Either was a creature that

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<v Speaker 3>was stalking and prowling, sometimes thing in the shatters, sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>fully stepping out to reveal itself during hours of day

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<v Speaker 3>time as well as nighttime. A creature who was killing animals,

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<v Speaker 3>creature who was very fond of making all of these

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<v Speaker 3>terrifying noises, wailing and screaming and yelling into the night.

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<v Speaker 3>These encounters were coming in from different directions. They weren't

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<v Speaker 3>just from one small area within the South Mountains area,

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<v Speaker 3>and Kaser seemed to be the epicenter of all of

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<v Speaker 3>the important for me to point out to you right

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<v Speaker 3>now that the people of this area were then and

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<v Speaker 3>still are a hardy, resilient breed of Mountain foothills speak,

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<v Speaker 3>the people who can handle problems, of people who can

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<v Speaker 3>handle fear, but also of people who give a healthy

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<v Speaker 3>amount of respect to that which is unknown, unexplained, and mysterious.

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<v Speaker 3>During this time period, people were afraid. Now I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to point out to you at this point, now that

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<v Speaker 3>I've completely finished my research, it's far more appropriate to

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<v Speaker 3>say creatures for with an unexpected twist that you're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to see coming, and we're going to get to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I had described to you an encounter had by a

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<v Speaker 3>fellow named Sammy Price, and also a separate encounter that

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<v Speaker 3>his wife had in two days after his sighting, he

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<v Speaker 3>ventured into the woods, a gutsy move if you asked me,

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<v Speaker 3>and mister Price found what he believed was the den

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<v Speaker 3>of one of these creatures. The tail tale footprints was

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<v Speaker 3>in and around the area of the den, not unlike

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<v Speaker 3>footprints that had been found in other areas of the

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<v Speaker 3>South Mountains. But when he looked inside he saw the

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<v Speaker 3>hairs of different animals, So evidently this wasn't just a

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<v Speaker 3>place of rest for the creature, but a place where

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<v Speaker 3>it would bring back its prey to dine upon it.

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<v Speaker 3>During this time period, as the days went on, people

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<v Speaker 3>continue to have experiences, whether it be hearing the horrible

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<v Speaker 3>noises or seeing this creature. This creature described as large

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<v Speaker 3>and stout, black in color, hairy, walking, or.

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<v Speaker 2>On two legs.

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<v Speaker 3>The reports were numerous, but only a few officially came

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<v Speaker 3>forward and talked to the authorities, and fury Hat talked

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<v Speaker 3>to the media. But I ran across a newspaper article

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<v Speaker 3>where a fellow by.

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<v Speaker 2>The name of R. M.

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<v Speaker 3>Newton was interviewed. Now, mister Newton owned a small country

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<v Speaker 3>store near the community of Teluca, which is here in

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<v Speaker 3>the South Mountains area, very close to Cuckner's Knob. You

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<v Speaker 3>may not realize it, but a country store, small country

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<v Speaker 3>store in a rural area is more than just a

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<v Speaker 3>place to buy your supplies and your groceries. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>community hub. It's a gathering place. It's a source of

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<v Speaker 3>information and a source.

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<v Speaker 2>For the news that may be happening in that community

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<v Speaker 2>at any given time.

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<v Speaker 3>This is remarkable to me. Mister Newton reported that just

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<v Speaker 3>in the last few days of nineteen seventy eight into

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<v Speaker 3>just the first few days of nineteen seventy nine, about

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<v Speaker 3>a week's time period, the head talked to at least

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four people who told him they had an encounter

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<v Speaker 3>or that a family or loved one had an encounter

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<v Speaker 3>with this creek. That tells us that is more evidence

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<v Speaker 3>that the statements made by me and other researchers that

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<v Speaker 3>the actual encounters far out numbered. They were afforded encounters

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<v Speaker 3>by a great factor, mister Eldridge Cook, who was the

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<v Speaker 3>son of Many Cook. Many Cook being probably the most

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<v Speaker 3>famous figure during all of this that was going on

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<v Speaker 3>in this town period. But he certainly kept his finger

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<v Speaker 3>on the faults of his small community. Over here Coppner's job,

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<v Speaker 3>and he talked to many people who reported seeing this creature.

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<v Speaker 3>There were some that reported that the creature or creatures

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<v Speaker 3>were cited in the apple orchard near Coppner's job with impunity,

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<v Speaker 3>picking apples and standing there. There's the different types of.

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<v Speaker 2>Sightings we have, the nighttime signings, and often the nighttime

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<v Speaker 2>sightings involved a roadside sighting where the creature may be

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<v Speaker 2>standing by the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Or crossing the road, or very near the road. And

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<v Speaker 3>I found an encounter that particularly struck a nerve with me.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Felling by the name of mister Wayne Earl.

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<v Speaker 3>He and his wife were driving late at night on

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<v Speaker 3>the porch of his father's house. They saw a figure

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<v Speaker 3>or a shadow as the headlights lit the porch up.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't just any figure or any shadow, it was

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<v Speaker 3>one of these creatures. Now what it was doing on

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<v Speaker 3>that porch. She knows, but I think it was probably

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<v Speaker 3>trying to peer in the windows. People of Appalachia have

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<v Speaker 2>We'll go to the extent of pinning them shut because

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<v Speaker 2>the mountain people, the foothills people do not want the

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<v Speaker 2>unknown peering in through their windows while they're in the

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<v Speaker 2>privacy of their own home. We certainly don't want a

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<v Speaker 2>set of red eyes looking upon us while we sleep

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<v Speaker 2>in our bed. Horrible night time encounter that.

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<v Speaker 3>Affected people for the rest of their lives, but also

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<v Speaker 3>they come encounters equally affected people for the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>their lives. Want I ran across she was a very

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<v Speaker 3>credible witness, the wife of the deputy sheriff here in

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<v Speaker 3>Cleveland County. But she was driving near the old Methodist

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<v Speaker 3>campground there by the pond. Walking along the bank was

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<v Speaker 3>one of these creatures called black Harry walking on two feet.

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<v Speaker 3>We find that the descriptions of this creature are these

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<v Speaker 3>creatures for the most part, and we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about that later, but these descriptions were remarkably consistent, same

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<v Speaker 3>general size, same general way. It lends further credibility to

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing, despite what the skeptics will say. And

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna touch on that as well. There was a

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<v Speaker 3>gentleman by the name of Ben Morris. Daytime sightning very

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<v Speaker 3>deeply affected him. And it sounds simple, but if you

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<v Speaker 3>put yourself in his shoes and understand how he felt

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<v Speaker 3>writing daytime in his car there by the road, climbing

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<v Speaker 3>a bank one of these creatures the bank on two feet,

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<v Speaker 3>and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 3>And mister Morrison was actually ridiculed by a skeptic after

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<v Speaker 3>that happened. There was a reporter by the name of

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<v Speaker 3>Robert Williams, and I remain charly grateful to mister Williams.

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<v Speaker 3>May he rest in peace. He is actually the one

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<v Speaker 3>who is credited with giving our South Mountains Bigfoot its nickname,

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<v Speaker 3>which is Nobby. We call them Nobby or Nobby's.

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<v Speaker 2>To this day.

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<v Speaker 3>There was names that the old folks used to call

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<v Speaker 3>them Booger's, false mo wapus, but ever since the late seventies,

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<v Speaker 3>Nobby has stuck. I ran across an interview that he

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<v Speaker 3>did with a hunter whose name was Taylor Falls now

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<v Speaker 3>mister Falls went on record as engaging one day during

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<v Speaker 3>the summer of nineteen seventy eight in the illegal deer hunt.

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<v Speaker 3>He said that a buck stepped out and he raised

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<v Speaker 3>his right before he could take a shot, his creature

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<v Speaker 3>stepped out between him and the buck deer, and this man,

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<v Speaker 3>who loved hunting so very much that he was willing

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<v Speaker 3>to break the law and possibly get in trouble to

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<v Speaker 3>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>From that day forward, swore off. Honting swore off going

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<v Speaker 2>into the woods.

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<v Speaker 3>In the late spring of nineteen seventy eight, the same

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<v Speaker 3>reporter interview to man who was fishing in one of

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<v Speaker 3>the many waterways of the South Mountains, and there, in

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<v Speaker 3>the quiet, calm stillness of the river or the creek,

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<v Speaker 3>the unknown had stepped out of the deep woods, and

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<v Speaker 3>people were seeing the unknown on a regular basis. When

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't seeing the unknown, they were hearing the unknown.

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<v Speaker 3>This area has always been nulled for strange and unexplained phenomena,

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<v Speaker 3>weird things, that's called odd things. That's got the old

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<v Speaker 3>ghost cryptids, lights in the woods, lights in the sky.

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<v Speaker 3>But during this time period, many different people from many

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<v Speaker 3>different areas within the South Mountains periphery were reporty seeing

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<v Speaker 3>creatures tall, covered in black hair, looking somewhat like a

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<v Speaker 3>looking somewhat like a man. In these screams and these yells,

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<v Speaker 3>and these hollers and whales that people were hearing all

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<v Speaker 3>hours of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>People were being frightened, especially at night.

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<v Speaker 3>When you hear these strange sounds that come out of

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<v Speaker 3>these mountains at night, echoing off of every tree in

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<v Speaker 3>the holler, in the creek bottoms. It'll terrify even the

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<v Speaker 3>strongest person and make you not bull be outside, or

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<v Speaker 3>make you not buller be in the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they were dealing with, and people were worried

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<v Speaker 2>and scared.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of a reporter by the name of Robert Williams,

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<v Speaker 3>and I am again I want to say this eternally

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<v Speaker 3>grateful for his work because he preserved some of the

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<v Speaker 3>eye witnesses accounts, he preserved history in his newspaper articles.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Williams interviewed officially, it was in the South Mountains

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<v Speaker 3>area of fishing one day out of the woods stepped

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<v Speaker 3>one of these creatures, same description, big, tall, covered in

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<v Speaker 3>black hair, and as quickly as the creature appeared, it

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<v Speaker 3>disappeared back into the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>But our fisherman did.

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<v Speaker 3>A strange and I would have to say bold thing,

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<v Speaker 3>because he went back to that same spot the next

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<v Speaker 3>day with a fire arm.

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<v Speaker 2>Why he did it's probably lost to history.

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<v Speaker 3>But he waited it out and the creature made an appearance,

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<v Speaker 3>and he took a shot at the creature.

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<v Speaker 2>But whether he hit it or not, it may be

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<v Speaker 2>lost to history.

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<v Speaker 3>I find no record of any type of interview after

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<v Speaker 3>the day that he took a shot at the creature.

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<v Speaker 3>He may have shot at it because he told someone

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<v Speaker 3>about his experience and they made fun of him or

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<v Speaker 3>didn't believe him, and he wanted to go get the evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows, your guess is as good as one. An

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<v Speaker 2>air account that I ran across ten am one morning.

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<v Speaker 2>A lady named Miss Argill was writing up the road,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know the exact road. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>mention the exact place. But she saw what she thought

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<v Speaker 2>was a large black dog. She slowed down. According to

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<v Speaker 2>her testimony, it took to about thirty miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>She realized that it wasn't a flood dog.

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<v Speaker 3>She said that this thing running on all fours. She

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<v Speaker 3>never said if it raised up on two feet or not,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's going to be an important thing later, but

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<v Speaker 3>that it was able to look into her window. She

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<v Speaker 3>went home and she told her husband, and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>don't tell anybody, they'll think you're crazy. Of course she did.

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<v Speaker 3>It affected her deeply, and she went on the record

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<v Speaker 3>as saying how deeply it affected her.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a common thing. I've talked to many witnesses

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<v Speaker 2>over the past four or five years.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of people out there that won't

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<v Speaker 3>come forward at all because to this day, even though

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<v Speaker 3>this happened all as many years ago, they don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to be called crazy or ostracized. If everyone came forward

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<v Speaker 3>that had experiences, whether it been in that time period

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<v Speaker 3>or any other, because this area has been null for

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<v Speaker 3>cryptid activity, if everybody came forward that had encounters, I

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<v Speaker 3>could probably do a whole boatload of episodes of just

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<v Speaker 3>eyewitness encounters for who knows how long. Now we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to get back to miss connight, But I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>get to the twist in the story, the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't see coming, you say. A friend of mine

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<v Speaker 3>named Dwight Campbell of Sasquatch Greecon found an old documentary

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<v Speaker 3>that a man named John Alexander of Tennessee. Did he

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<v Speaker 3>came into this area and he interviewed many eyewitnesses, and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was preserved on camera.

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<v Speaker 3>In particular, there was a witness that I had read

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<v Speaker 3>about by the name of mister Ferrell Shuk. Its full

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<v Speaker 3>page picture appears in the A big Footcase Book, the

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<v Speaker 3>updated edition, but it just said that he saw the

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<v Speaker 3>creature and always assumed it was talking about a sasquatch.

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<v Speaker 3>But mister Shuk was interviewed on camera in the course

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<v Speaker 3>of this documentary. He reported that one Saturday in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 3>he went out to feed his cows in out of

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<v Speaker 3>the woods. This creature on all fours, black and big,

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<v Speaker 3>and it went to a ditch and it picked up

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<v Speaker 3>a chicken that was dead that mister Schuk had discarded,

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<v Speaker 3>grabbed it by its mouth, and then went back into

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<v Speaker 3>the woods. Mister Schuck didn't see a bigfoot. That wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>the only thing rolling and stalking this area during that

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<v Speaker 3>time period.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a large.

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<v Speaker 3>Black panther the Appalachian Mountains in general. Many people, including myself,

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<v Speaker 3>have made reports of seeing these black panthers, but apparently

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<v Speaker 3>the one that mister Schuk saw and most likely miss

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<v Speaker 3>Knight saw was a big black pet. Mister Schuk went

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<v Speaker 3>as far as setting a trap for it. Whether he

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<v Speaker 3>caught anything that may be lost to history as well,

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<v Speaker 3>unless somebody out there knows something and if you do,

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<v Speaker 3>reach out to me. So during this time period, it

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<v Speaker 3>was enough to have these upright hairy creatures walking around

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<v Speaker 3>that looked kind of like a man kind like an

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<v Speaker 3>At the same time people were seeing a big, oversized

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<v Speaker 3>black panther. The vocalizations reported during this time period. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to point out that a researcher came into

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<v Speaker 3>this area named Jim Hollingsworth and he played recordings from

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<v Speaker 3>out in the Pacific Northwest and some people identified those

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<v Speaker 3>sasquatch sounds that were recorded in that part of the

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<v Speaker 3>country and said, yeah, that's pretty much what I heard.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was the vocalizations people heard. Perhaps the most

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<v Speaker 3>terrifying of the vocalizations, and that was this screaming sound

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<v Speaker 3>that sounded like a woman screaming in the night.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely unnerving. But then there's another twist. There was footprints

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<v Speaker 2>found during this time period that no doubt point toward

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<v Speaker 2>encrypt did like Bigfoot or as we call them, Nobby.

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<v Speaker 3>The nobbies, but there was also footprints found that were

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<v Speaker 3>unmistakably big cat footprints. But there was a third type

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<v Speaker 3>of footprint found during this time, the one that got

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<v Speaker 3>me puzzed, and that was many of these seasoned hunters,

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<v Speaker 3>these people that could track anything through the wilderness, who

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<v Speaker 3>knew the wildlife of this area and could tell one

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<v Speaker 3>track from another. But they found these huge tracks as

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<v Speaker 3>large as a man's head that was described as looking

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<v Speaker 3>like they were part dog but also part cat, and

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<v Speaker 3>I started putting some things together.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people may disagree with me, but I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>give you my opinion. I think the.

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<v Speaker 3>Third cryptid that was rolling these parts during that same

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<v Speaker 3>time period, who still rolled these parts to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Very day, was a dog.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know very little about that, but I'm learning.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to talk more about this three way terror

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<v Speaker 3>that people was experience.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about some of the host experienced

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<v Speaker 2>things that our witnesses had to say to show their

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<v Speaker 2>frame of line in world. Also going to discuss the

426
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<v Speaker 2>skeptics in the naysayers.

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<v Speaker 3>The subject we're going to cover tonight is without a doubt, horrifying.

428
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<v Speaker 3>It's disturbing, and I don't mind admitting to you and

429
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<v Speaker 3>in front of the rest of the world, that it

430
00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:16.920
<v Speaker 3>is a subject that terrifies me as a person who

431
00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:19.960
<v Speaker 3>doesn't like to stay on the beaten path. I'm not

432
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<v Speaker 3>a marked trail kind of guy. I want to get

433
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<v Speaker 3>out into the deepest, wildest parts of the wilderness to experience.

434
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<v Speaker 2>The dynamics and the beauty of nature.

435
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<v Speaker 3>At one hundred percent rate, I can tell you that

436
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<v Speaker 3>this subject gives me great pause. Tonight, we're going to

437
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<v Speaker 3>be talking about the subject of feral people, specifically, do

438
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<v Speaker 3>feral people still exist.

439
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<v Speaker 2>In the Appalachian Mountains and foothills.

440
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<v Speaker 3>Now, I ask you to keep in mind that I'm

441
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<v Speaker 3>not talking about people who ever recently or in the

442
00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:55.559
<v Speaker 3>recent past, detached from society and now they're living a

443
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<v Speaker 3>life of semi isolation as survivalists or as home less people.

444
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<v Speaker 2>Not at all.

445
00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:06.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about people whose ancestors, generations and generations of go,

446
00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:13.640
<v Speaker 3>for whatever reasons, under whatever circumstances, became isolated or chose

447
00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:17.720
<v Speaker 3>isolation in the deep wilderness in pockets up and down

448
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:22.279
<v Speaker 3>the Appalachian Mountains and foothills. The question is, do their

449
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:27.119
<v Speaker 3>descendants still exist in the Appalachian Mountains today? Evidence suggests

450
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<v Speaker 3>that they do in fact still exist, my witness testimonies.

451
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<v Speaker 3>More importantly to me, it's the word of the mountain

452
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<v Speaker 3>people that say yes, they do exist, and I give

453
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<v Speaker 3>heavy weight to the word of the mountain people. It

454
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<v Speaker 3>is said that these feral people have their own language,

455
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<v Speaker 3>that they have their own system of communication, for purposes

456
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<v Speaker 3>of locating one another at distance, for purposes of facilitating

457
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<v Speaker 3>the hut, for purposes of alerting the presence of intruders,

458
00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:04.759
<v Speaker 3>and even for purposes of setting up attacks and ambushes.

459
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<v Speaker 3>It is said that they display the characteristics of generations

460
00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 3>of inbreeding, and common sense dictates that, being that there

461
00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:17.440
<v Speaker 3>is the severe state of their isolation, it is believed

462
00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 3>that they are very violent, and while they would certainly

463
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:25.920
<v Speaker 3>at all costs avoid any accidental contact with any element

464
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:29.759
<v Speaker 3>of the outside world, many believe, including myself, that they

465
00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:35.640
<v Speaker 3>will perch on the boundary between their world and our world, hiding, watching,

466
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:40.400
<v Speaker 3>being stealthy, waiting. When we intrude into their world and

467
00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:44.920
<v Speaker 3>they are given the opportunity to raid an unattended camp

468
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.519
<v Speaker 3>for gear, for food, for clothes, for shoes, for whatever

469
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<v Speaker 3>they can use.

470
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:50.759
<v Speaker 2>That they'll do it.

471
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<v Speaker 3>But the most terrifying aspect of this subject is the

472
00:26:55.519 --> 00:27:00.240
<v Speaker 3>fact that there is plenty of evidence in testimony that

473
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:05.440
<v Speaker 3>tells us that they will opportunistically resort to cannibalism, which means,

474
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:09.920
<v Speaker 3>as true hunter gatherers, they will not only engage in

475
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:14.119
<v Speaker 3>hunting wabi, but they'll engage in hunting us. An undisputed

476
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:18.240
<v Speaker 3>fact is that thousands of people in the wildernesses of

477
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.839
<v Speaker 3>North America have gone missing, vanished, no explanation, never to

478
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:27.440
<v Speaker 3>be seen again. And the Appalachian Mountains certainly no stranger

479
00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:30.160
<v Speaker 3>to that story. So grab your favorite beverage and give

480
00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:33.359
<v Speaker 3>me a few minutes of your time, especially if you're

481
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.200
<v Speaker 3>a hiker or a camper, or a hunter or a fisherman.

482
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.279
<v Speaker 3>I think that tonight's subject is worth beying attention to.

483
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:43.759
<v Speaker 3>We're going to first cover an account of an experience

484
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:47.000
<v Speaker 3>by a man whose name is James. Then we'll cover

485
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:50.400
<v Speaker 3>the body of evidence around feral people, and I will

486
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:52.519
<v Speaker 3>share with you an experience that I had when I

487
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:54.559
<v Speaker 3>was with a group of people and something we ran

488
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:59.559
<v Speaker 3>across in the wilderness of western North Carolina. Now our witness, James,

489
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.519
<v Speaker 3>in the mid nineteen seventies was a young college student

490
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.759
<v Speaker 3>and James was born and raised just past the extreme

491
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.720
<v Speaker 3>western end of the South Mountains of North Carolina, so

492
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:11.319
<v Speaker 3>he can be said that he was a child of

493
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.279
<v Speaker 3>two worlds, that he was a child of the foothills

494
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:15.880
<v Speaker 3>and he was a child of the big mountains.

495
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:17.039
<v Speaker 2>As I called him.

496
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:20.960
<v Speaker 3>He would have been at home in the South Mountains.

497
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.519
<v Speaker 3>It would have been equally at home in the Lynnville

498
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:26.400
<v Speaker 3>Gorge or Rhan Mountain or Wilson's Creek, to name a

499
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.720
<v Speaker 3>few places. Definitely a person in the way he was raised,

500
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:34.519
<v Speaker 3>hunting and fishing. Definitely a person at home in the woods.

501
00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:38.160
<v Speaker 3>But it was during his time at the university when

502
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:41.559
<v Speaker 3>he developed a passion, a lifelong passion.

503
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:43.640
<v Speaker 2>For something that he had never experienced before.

504
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Speaker 3>He was invited and took the opportunity to go on

505
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:50.519
<v Speaker 3>a long range hiking and camping trip along the Appalachian

506
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:52.839
<v Speaker 3>Trail with some of his college friends.

507
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:55.440
<v Speaker 2>That was a passion that never left him the rest

508
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 2>of his life to this day. If he could still

509
00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:59.000
<v Speaker 2>do it, he would do it.

510
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.000
<v Speaker 3>In the sun of nineteen seventy seven, James became completely

511
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:10.079
<v Speaker 3>disillusioned with the university scene, just tired of college life,

512
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:12.599
<v Speaker 3>and he elected not to go back that fall to

513
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:16.039
<v Speaker 3>start his senior year at the university, so he moved

514
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:18.599
<v Speaker 3>back home. He got a job in a furniture plant,

515
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 3>and he moved on with his life. Later in that year,

516
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:24.559
<v Speaker 3>near the end of the year, James began to plan

517
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 3>a trip of vacation.

518
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.079
<v Speaker 2>This trip would take place in the springtime. He secured

519
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:30.000
<v Speaker 2>time off from work.

520
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Springtime came in the second week of April nineteen seventy eight.

521
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:39.519
<v Speaker 3>James stepped off on this great adventure. Now his intent

522
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:43.279
<v Speaker 3>was to fake deep into this wilderness area he had

523
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:46.559
<v Speaker 3>never explored before, set up a base count, and then

524
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:48.440
<v Speaker 3>each day he was there for a week, he would

525
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.599
<v Speaker 3>hike in a different direction to explore, to experience nature,

526
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 3>to see what he could see. He budgeted time that

527
00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:58.519
<v Speaker 3>day so that he would arrive at his desired destination

528
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:01.720
<v Speaker 3>with a couple hours. He needed a couple of hours

529
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:04.039
<v Speaker 3>of daylight to get camp set up, to get him

530
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:06.680
<v Speaker 3>some food, to have a minute to stop and rest.

531
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<v Speaker 2>And that's what he did.

532
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.119
<v Speaker 3>And he sat there, join a cup of coffee and

533
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:14.599
<v Speaker 3>join the smoke, got in bed early, and stay tuned

534
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:15.920
<v Speaker 3>for more sasquatch out to see.

535
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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back. After these messages, the next morning,

536
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:25.359
<v Speaker 2>woke up before the sun was up.

537
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:29.119
<v Speaker 3>He took time to make him some breakfast, have some coffee,

538
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:31.559
<v Speaker 3>and then too secure his camp to pull his food

539
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:34.839
<v Speaker 3>in anything to smell like food. So what you do

540
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:36.680
<v Speaker 3>is you put them in bags, You tie rope around it,

541
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:38.759
<v Speaker 3>You throw the rope over a high branch in a tree.

542
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:41.839
<v Speaker 3>You pull those bags up off the ground a fair

543
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.119
<v Speaker 3>distance as a countermeasure against bears. If you don't, you

544
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:46.920
<v Speaker 3>don't have the snout of a bear in your tent,

545
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 3>or you'll come back and find your camp decinated.

546
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:51.240
<v Speaker 2>That's what bears do, and.

547
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:53.880
<v Speaker 3>As it turned out, apparently there's other things that did

548
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:56.279
<v Speaker 3>that as well. But he did all of that morning.

549
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.519
<v Speaker 3>He donned his backpack, he rucked up, booted up, and

550
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:01.200
<v Speaker 3>left out.

551
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:01.759
<v Speaker 2>On his journey.

552
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Just about five minutes into his height, James heard a

553
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:09.400
<v Speaker 3>noise that was completely foreign to him, something he had

554
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:10.680
<v Speaker 3>never heard in the woods before.

555
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:13.559
<v Speaker 2>Now, keep in mind, when you're familiar with.

556
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:16.880
<v Speaker 3>A certain wilderness area, a certain part of the country, you.

557
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Know what sounds to expect.

558
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 3>You know what sounds the wildlife makes, the sounds of

559
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.440
<v Speaker 3>trees creaking against one another, and so on and so forth.

560
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.599
<v Speaker 3>But James knew that was not a natural sound in

561
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:34.200
<v Speaker 3>the wilds. James said that he somehow instinctively felt that

562
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.880
<v Speaker 3>this clicking noise was a noise man made by a

563
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.160
<v Speaker 3>human using their mouth. He thought about it in a minute.

564
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.519
<v Speaker 3>It bothered him some, but he filed away and continued on.

565
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.079
<v Speaker 3>Just about five more minutes down the trail, he realized

566
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:49.559
<v Speaker 3>that he had a.

567
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Hedchhiker in his boot.

568
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:52.400
<v Speaker 3>He had put on his boot, got up pebble or

569
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:54.240
<v Speaker 3>a piece of debris in his boot, and it gravity

570
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:56.000
<v Speaker 3>took over and worked its way down and he was

571
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 3>stepping on it every other step.

572
00:31:57.680 --> 00:31:58.440
<v Speaker 2>He had to deal with it.

573
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:01.759
<v Speaker 3>He stopped, sat down against tree, took his boot off,

574
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:04.799
<v Speaker 3>and sure enough there was that pebble. He put his

575
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.880
<v Speaker 3>boot back on, got ready to take that next step,

576
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 3>and he heard a distinctive sound. This time he knew

577
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:14.640
<v Speaker 3>exactly what it was. It was the sound of human voices.

578
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:18.519
<v Speaker 3>And these human voices were coming from the direction of

579
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:22.920
<v Speaker 3>his camp. But they weren't speaking English. They just didn't

580
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.400
<v Speaker 3>sound right. He slowed his steps even more. His camp

581
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:29.119
<v Speaker 3>would be just over the next rise and would come

582
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:32.960
<v Speaker 3>into sight. Then he heard the clicking sound again, but

583
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:37.119
<v Speaker 3>from two directions from off to his left and off

584
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.599
<v Speaker 3>to his right. He came close to the top of

585
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:43.039
<v Speaker 3>that rise. The clicking sound had just occurred, and he

586
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:47.240
<v Speaker 3>heard eruptus. He heard scurrying in the direction of his camp.

587
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.759
<v Speaker 3>He heard the sound of what seemed to be maybe

588
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.480
<v Speaker 3>one of his pots being dropped on the ground. And

589
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:56.880
<v Speaker 3>he heard the strange sound of one of those voices,

590
00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:00.799
<v Speaker 3>except this time the voice was much higher pitched. It

591
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:04.599
<v Speaker 3>sounded in a panic even, And he heard running from

592
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 3>his left and from his right. The leaf litter in

593
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.559
<v Speaker 3>the Appalachian forest, if it hasn't rained lately, the leaf

594
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.000
<v Speaker 3>litter walking or running in it will give you away

595
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:16.480
<v Speaker 3>every time. Off in the distance, he heard a sound,

596
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:18.200
<v Speaker 3>and he knew exactly what it was.

597
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:20.079
<v Speaker 2>It was sound of human voices.

598
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Except the words that he was picking up didn't sound English.

599
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:27.000
<v Speaker 3>They didn't sound intelligible at all to him, and no

600
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.599
<v Speaker 3>disrespect to anyone. But these voices sounded like the sound

601
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:35.960
<v Speaker 3>deaf people make when they speak. He contemplated on what

602
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 3>he should do. Should he just chalk it up to

603
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:41.720
<v Speaker 3>where there's people here doing the same thing that I am.

604
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:45.440
<v Speaker 3>There's hiking and enjoying nature, or should he go back

605
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:47.920
<v Speaker 3>and check on his camp, but by thend the curiosity

606
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:51.279
<v Speaker 3>was what was getting him certainly concerned about his camp,

607
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.480
<v Speaker 3>But curiosity dictated that he turned around and go back

608
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:59.000
<v Speaker 3>toward camp. He quickened his pace and came to within

609
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:02.440
<v Speaker 3>a few minutes of his camp. It wasn't in sight yet,

610
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:06.720
<v Speaker 3>but he heard those strange sounding voices again. This time

611
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:09.519
<v Speaker 3>is much closer, and he slowed his face and an

612
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:12.400
<v Speaker 3>effort would be more stealthy and be more quiet. Then

613
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Speaker 3>another unexpected thing happened. James was hit by a very

614
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 3>foul odor. He stopped in his tracks instantly. He was

615
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:25.320
<v Speaker 3>almost nauseated. It was not the musky smell of a bear,

616
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:29.800
<v Speaker 3>or the pungent smell of a scomp or any smell

617
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:32.760
<v Speaker 3>that belonged in the forest. For a second, he couldn't

618
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:35.519
<v Speaker 3>make heads or tails of it, but then it hit him.

619
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:40.039
<v Speaker 3>Woven in this foul stench was the unmistakable smell of

620
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:44.280
<v Speaker 3>human body o and he started walking again, draining closer

621
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:48.000
<v Speaker 3>to his camp, feeling more uneasy with every step. He

622
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:51.039
<v Speaker 3>slowed his steps even more. His camp would be just

623
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.239
<v Speaker 3>over the next rise and would come into sight. Then

624
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:57.920
<v Speaker 3>he heard the clicking sound again, but from two directions

625
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.559
<v Speaker 3>from off to his left and off to his right.

626
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:04.559
<v Speaker 3>He came close to the top of that rise. The

627
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.840
<v Speaker 3>clicking sound had just occurred, and he heard erupts. He

628
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:12.000
<v Speaker 3>heard scurrying in the direction of his camp. He heard

629
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:15.000
<v Speaker 3>the sound of what seemed to be maybe one of

630
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:19.199
<v Speaker 3>his pots being dropped on the ground. And he heard

631
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:21.880
<v Speaker 3>the strange sound of one of those voices, except this

632
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:25.800
<v Speaker 3>time the voice is much higher pitched. It sounded in

633
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 3>a panic even, and he heard running from his left

634
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:33.320
<v Speaker 3>and from his rock. He topped the rise and caught

635
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:36.239
<v Speaker 3>his first glimpse of his camp. But on the opposite

636
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:39.199
<v Speaker 3>side of his camp, just a couple of seconds, he

637
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:43.639
<v Speaker 3>caught glimpse of three individuals running, running in the opposite direction.

638
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:48.039
<v Speaker 3>Now there was one that caught his attention, and this

639
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:52.239
<v Speaker 3>one was running. This person was running with a strange,

640
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:57.239
<v Speaker 3>gimpy gait. This person was much slower than the other two.

641
00:35:57.480 --> 00:35:59.599
<v Speaker 3>This person didn't have a shirt on, was very odd

642
00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:02.119
<v Speaker 3>consider it was still cold weather, not the kind of

643
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:05.119
<v Speaker 3>weather to be running around the woods without a shirt on.

644
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.280
<v Speaker 3>From the back, this person seemed to be somewhat misshaping.

645
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:10.400
<v Speaker 3>One shoulder was much lower than the other.

646
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:14.320
<v Speaker 2>That arm hung unnaturally low and off the back of

647
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:19.880
<v Speaker 2>the head flowed this stringy, thin hair almost down to

648
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:20.440
<v Speaker 2>mid back.

649
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:24.519
<v Speaker 3>But all three of the figures disappeared into the distance

650
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:27.840
<v Speaker 3>of the woods, and he saw the total picture of

651
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.280
<v Speaker 3>his camp for the first time, and it was destroyed.

652
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.599
<v Speaker 3>Anger hitting, and he stopped in his tract right at

653
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:36.440
<v Speaker 3>his spire pit and just began to yell and.

654
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Shout expletives, but it all went quiet. He looked around.

655
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Both bags containing his food, and his food items were

656
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:47.559
<v Speaker 2>cut out of the trees and galled, with the exception

657
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:50.800
<v Speaker 2>of a pot and the lids the tip was flattened.

658
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Still angry, he yelled again. He yelled louder, this time.

659
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Off in the distance on three sides of him, he

660
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.880
<v Speaker 3>heard welling, like a well sound. To him, it sounded

661
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 3>almost celebratory, and it reminded him in a way of

662
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.280
<v Speaker 3>the Cherokee War whoops if you've ever heard that, or

663
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:13.800
<v Speaker 3>even the famous rebel yell, only repeatedly, and by then

664
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 3>the feeling that he had was near panic.

665
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>He wanted out of there. He didn't even bother picking

666
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:20.679
<v Speaker 2>up what little was left.

667
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.519
<v Speaker 3>He already had his pack on and he moved out

668
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:28.440
<v Speaker 3>swiftly and off in the distance again, he heard more noise.

669
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:33.280
<v Speaker 3>It was a wailing, chattering laughter, and it chilled his blood,

670
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 3>and then a voice shouting something completely unintelligible. James left

671
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:42.400
<v Speaker 3>and he got out of there safely. But he returned

672
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 3>the next day with reinforcements. He had called to friends,

673
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:48.800
<v Speaker 3>upprized them of the situation, came back the next day

674
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:51.440
<v Speaker 3>with the intent camp overnight and do the exact same.

675
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:53.519
<v Speaker 2>Thing he had done that day before.

676
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:58.079
<v Speaker 3>They came in camp, and then they feigned it as

677
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.039
<v Speaker 3>though they were going to go hiking. They even left

678
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:05.679
<v Speaker 3>things sitting conspicuously out in the camp, desirable things, left

679
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:09.519
<v Speaker 3>an axe. Nothing, they set up we would call the

680
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:13.960
<v Speaker 3>military a listening post slash observation post about ten minutes away,

681
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:20.480
<v Speaker 3>and nothing. They moved closer, said another while longer, nothing happened.

682
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.880
<v Speaker 3>They got back to camp. Everything was as it should

683
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:26.559
<v Speaker 3>have been, nothing was missing. James never returned to that

684
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:30.400
<v Speaker 3>area to camp alone, but he and his friends came

685
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 3>back a few more times and hiked the area just

686
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:34.199
<v Speaker 3>seeing what they could find.

687
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:34.920
<v Speaker 2>A they found there.

688
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:38.480
<v Speaker 3>James had been alone in the deep woods. He was

689
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:42.119
<v Speaker 3>probably watched the day he hiked in. He was probably

690
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:44.800
<v Speaker 3>watched all night, and he was watched that morning when

691
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.239
<v Speaker 3>he left camp until he got out of sight. There

692
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:51.239
<v Speaker 3>was no doubt that these individuals came in to raid

693
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.559
<v Speaker 3>his camp. But the one thing that worked in his

694
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:56.559
<v Speaker 3>favor he left camp and unbeknownst to them, just about

695
00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:58.840
<v Speaker 3>ten minutes away, he had stopped for that break where

696
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:01.639
<v Speaker 3>he had some coffee and was caught templating all this craziness,

697
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:05.519
<v Speaker 3>and they obviously thought he was further away, and he

698
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:06.400
<v Speaker 3>began to hear him.

699
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:09.599
<v Speaker 2>You know the story. What we don't know what else

700
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:12.800
<v Speaker 2>might have they had in store for James? And who

701
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.320
<v Speaker 2>were these people? What were they? Where did they come from?

702
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:18.039
<v Speaker 3>And I'm certainly curious as to what you say you

703
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:20.239
<v Speaker 3>make of this story as you will. You can believe it,

704
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.039
<v Speaker 3>you cannot believe it. I personally believe it. Take it

705
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:25.400
<v Speaker 3>as a tale of warning. But yeah, what do you

706
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:28.360
<v Speaker 3>make of it? We're still discussing the very frightening and

707
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:33.719
<v Speaker 3>disturbing possibility that pockets of feral people still exist in

708
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.760
<v Speaker 3>deep wilderness areas up and down the.

709
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Appalachian mountains and foothills.

710
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:40.519
<v Speaker 3>That we discussed the phenomena of fair people in general,

711
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:42.920
<v Speaker 3>and then we discussed some characteristics and we'll give them

712
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.800
<v Speaker 3>those again, but characteristics that were derived from the body

713
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:49.599
<v Speaker 3>of testimony, the body of evidence. We're just going to

714
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:53.280
<v Speaker 3>discuss everything in general again and talk about why it's possible,

715
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:55.840
<v Speaker 3>and I'll tell you about an experience that I had.

716
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:59.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't mean to suggest that the phenomena of feral

717
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.559
<v Speaker 3>people is endemic just to Appalachia the American South, as

718
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.960
<v Speaker 3>though I'm making fun of somebody here saying that people

719
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:07.400
<v Speaker 3>in mountain people or Southern people are more likely to

720
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:10.960
<v Speaker 3>become pharaoh. That's ridiculous, that's nonsense. That's all I'll say

721
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:12.400
<v Speaker 3>about that. I'm not going to make fun of my

722
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.440
<v Speaker 3>own people. I'm a curious person. I'm a researcher and investigator,

723
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:19.039
<v Speaker 3>and this subject caught my attention and I started wanting

724
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:19.679
<v Speaker 3>some answers.

725
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.039
<v Speaker 2>The phenomena of feral people is worldwide.

726
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:27.679
<v Speaker 3>In reports and discussion of feral people go back into antiquity. Now,

727
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:32.840
<v Speaker 3>these areas that has this concentration of reports, they all

728
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:37.239
<v Speaker 3>have something in common. Vast areas of uninhabited wildernesses of

729
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:44.039
<v Speaker 3>some type or another. Appalachian mountains, Appalachian foothills, absolutely the case,

730
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.960
<v Speaker 3>vast wilderness. Most of Appalachia is still wilderness, and I

731
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:50.480
<v Speaker 3>go on record with great confidences saying there's parts of

732
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 3>Appalachia where no man or woman has ever stepped. You

733
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 3>could hide a herd of wooly mammos out there for

734
00:40:56.559 --> 00:40:59.320
<v Speaker 3>all we know. I'm not suggesting that's hyperble, but you

735
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.559
<v Speaker 3>could have wooly as out there and they might never

736
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:05.079
<v Speaker 3>be detected. In other words, there's no telling what's hidden

737
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 3>in this vast wilderness that we don't know about yet,

738
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:09.400
<v Speaker 3>And we certainly don't know everything that we think we know.

739
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:14.000
<v Speaker 3>The Appalachian Mountains run for two thousand miles, for crying

740
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:16.440
<v Speaker 3>out loud, So you look at everything and you bull

741
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:19.360
<v Speaker 3>it down to its simplest form. There are more than

742
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:22.119
<v Speaker 3>just a few reports, these reports. This isn't a recent thing.

743
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:26.440
<v Speaker 3>They go back more than one hundred years. The Appalachian

744
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:30.920
<v Speaker 3>wilderness itself is more than capable of sustaining these pockets

745
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:35.039
<v Speaker 3>of feral people. The available building materials in the applelatched

746
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:38.280
<v Speaker 3>hardwood forest is great, and a primitive people would know

747
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.800
<v Speaker 3>how to make shelter out of these materials to get

748
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.159
<v Speaker 3>away from the elements. Then you factor in that there's

749
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 3>vast cave systems and also dotted on the landscape up

750
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 3>and down the mountains and foothills are these abandoned homesteads

751
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 3>of barns.

752
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:53.519
<v Speaker 2>There's way out in the middle of nowhere.

753
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:57.039
<v Speaker 3>I've run across the available food in the Appalachian mountains

754
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:01.800
<v Speaker 3>and foothills. The diversity of animal life is great and plentiful.

755
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:06.880
<v Speaker 3>And also there's the plants, very biodiverse area in terms

756
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:10.199
<v Speaker 3>of plants for food and for medicine. But it's the

757
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:14.039
<v Speaker 3>disappearances that propel me more than anything else. There's some

758
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:16.960
<v Speaker 3>famous cases. One of these cases is the very tragic

759
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.480
<v Speaker 3>case of Dennis Lloyd Martin, a little six year old

760
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:23.679
<v Speaker 3>boy who in June of nineteen sixty nine, while into

761
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:27.119
<v Speaker 3>Great Smoking Mountains, he just vanished while within yards of

762
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.119
<v Speaker 3>his family. Some odd things about that case, but one

763
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 3>of the things that gets my attention to most is

764
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:34.440
<v Speaker 3>the fact that from the highest levels of government, the

765
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.400
<v Speaker 3>special Forces out of Fort Bragg, North Carolina, was ordered

766
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:40.519
<v Speaker 3>to the Great Smoking Mountains to look for this little boy.

767
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:43.360
<v Speaker 3>The Green Bereys got there and they informed the authorities,

768
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:45.840
<v Speaker 3>and they informed the people running the searches. They said,

769
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:48.519
<v Speaker 3>we won't be a part of you. We've hired a

770
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:51.199
<v Speaker 3>couple of guides we're going out by ourselves. It is

771
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:53.719
<v Speaker 3>said that they did in fact encounter feral people, and

772
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.079
<v Speaker 3>it is also said that they killed some feral people.

773
00:42:56.519 --> 00:42:58.519
<v Speaker 3>And I tend to believe that that's certainly not the

774
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.679
<v Speaker 3>kind of thing that our government is going to admit to. Obviously,

775
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:05.280
<v Speaker 3>but that's well within reason to believe that. The amazing

776
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:08.639
<v Speaker 3>thing is this, the total number of feral people will

777
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:13.920
<v Speaker 3>be very minuscule compared to the population. These scant numbers

778
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.840
<v Speaker 3>of feral people spread out over such a vast willness.

779
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Yet there's still all of these reports.

780
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:23.400
<v Speaker 3>We have in our society a certain segment that, no

781
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:26.079
<v Speaker 3>matter what, if something followed outside of that box of

782
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:29.079
<v Speaker 3>approved stuff, then they're not going to believe it. And

783
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:31.400
<v Speaker 3>worse yet, they will make fun of people. They will

784
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:33.920
<v Speaker 3>ridicule people, they will call people liars, they will call

785
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:37.119
<v Speaker 3>people stupid. And nobody wants to be treated like that.

786
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:41.159
<v Speaker 3>That's why the vast majority of people who encounter extraordinary

787
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.920
<v Speaker 3>things just keep it to themselves. I have learned this

788
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:46.840
<v Speaker 3>after three and a half four years of interviewing witnesses.

789
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Nobody wants to be made fun of, a ridiculed or

790
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:50.000
<v Speaker 2>called a liar.

791
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:53.719
<v Speaker 3>Imagine if everybody who's had experiences out of the ordinary

792
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:58.440
<v Speaker 3>came forward and talked about it. Now, the testimony of witnesses,

793
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:03.840
<v Speaker 3>we see similarities spanning the spectrum. We see in many

794
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:07.880
<v Speaker 3>cases great detail. Specific detail provided to include from my

795
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:12.920
<v Speaker 3>witness James. People report across the board at these deformed

796
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:18.719
<v Speaker 3>facial features, twisted bodies and spines, oddly enough cataracts, very thick,

797
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:25.119
<v Speaker 3>white milky cataracts, thinning, sparse, stringy hair, unclothed or clothed

798
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:29.480
<v Speaker 3>in rags, odd hairiness on their bodies, strange vocal guttural

799
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:34.000
<v Speaker 3>grunts and sounds. People hearing an unknown language and then

800
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:38.360
<v Speaker 3>hearing these cliques, tree knocks and whistles and things like that.

801
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 3>That apparently is the way that they would communicate at distance.

802
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:45.599
<v Speaker 2>The bottom line is that it is well within reason.

803
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Isolated people can and probably do survive in the Appalachian Mountains.

804
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Now onto my experience.

805
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.960
<v Speaker 3>In May of twenty twenty one, I was invited to

806
00:44:56.000 --> 00:45:00.480
<v Speaker 3>western Rutherford County to investigate a cave the small Now,

807
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:03.039
<v Speaker 3>this cave had been revealed after a control burned. There

808
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:04.800
<v Speaker 3>was a lot of foliage there. I believe they said

809
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:08.239
<v Speaker 3>there was some rhododendron bushes very thick. The control burned,

810
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:10.960
<v Speaker 3>burned all that way, and there was the cave. Who I,

811
00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:13.639
<v Speaker 3>along with a group of people, want to explore it now.

812
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:16.400
<v Speaker 3>On the way there after it was in the wilderness.

813
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:20.920
<v Speaker 3>We got very lucky. We discovered a single track. Now,

814
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.920
<v Speaker 3>you have to keep in mind, on the forest floor

815
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:27.400
<v Speaker 3>of the Appalachian hardwood Belt, it's very difficult to find

816
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:29.920
<v Speaker 3>a track, much less a track with detail, due to

817
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.760
<v Speaker 3>the leaf litter and the debris and the weather.

818
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:34.480
<v Speaker 2>But we got very.

819
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Lucky and we found a single track. Now, the maker

820
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:41.880
<v Speaker 3>of this track had apparently stepped over a log barefooted,

821
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.039
<v Speaker 3>stepped over a log, and there was a giant patch

822
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:46.239
<v Speaker 3>of what's called ground seater.

823
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:47.599
<v Speaker 2>It's a spreading ground cover.

824
00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:50.559
<v Speaker 3>But as they stepped over the log, they slipped, and

825
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:53.960
<v Speaker 3>at the terminus of that slippage they left an absolutely

826
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:58.280
<v Speaker 3>beautiful trap eight and a half inches long, definitely human.

827
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.880
<v Speaker 3>But two odd things about the track. The toes were

828
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:04.719
<v Speaker 3>splayed like this. Our feet because we wear shoes, our

829
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:09.639
<v Speaker 3>toes are like this. Their toes were splayed. But more importantly,

830
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:15.400
<v Speaker 3>that track this person was completely inovertly flat footed compared

831
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.960
<v Speaker 3>to the length, an extraordinary width to the track. After

832
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 3>doing some research and talking to some people in the know,

833
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:24.760
<v Speaker 3>that's a sign of a person who has went their

834
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:28.599
<v Speaker 3>whole life walking barefooted. Now what regular person had of

835
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:31.440
<v Speaker 3>our society, we walk around the forest in the middle

836
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:36.119
<v Speaker 3>of nowhere in the Appalachians without shoes on. Our modern, tender,

837
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.199
<v Speaker 3>vulnerable feet could never do that. We don't have the callouses.

838
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:41.320
<v Speaker 3>But somebody who has done it their whole life will

839
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:44.840
<v Speaker 3>have very tough feet. So we have to explain this track. Now,

840
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:48.360
<v Speaker 3>the cave itself, the entrance in and out there was

841
00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:52.840
<v Speaker 3>great wear. It was obviously made by flat footedness. Wasn't

842
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:56.199
<v Speaker 3>animal hooves or claws. So something was going in and

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<v Speaker 3>out of that cave. It has to be explained. So

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<v Speaker 3>what's the takeaway from this? One of people go fair

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of reasons. They just get isolated, or there's

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<v Speaker 3>some isolated cases of maybe people who isolated.

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<v Speaker 2>Themselves for religious reasons. But it is more than possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I don't mean to suggest we bother these people

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<v Speaker 3>or try to harm them or capture them in any way.

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<v Speaker 3>We leave them alone, but I'm saying this, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>a hiker or a camper, or you're proing to be

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<v Speaker 3>out there in the wilderness. Just be careful and be aware.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate all of you. I'll see you next time.
