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I'm your host, Brent Thomas. We are gonna do the

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second part of my interview with Jody Cook, who is

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a dog man researcher, investigator, and he's the founder of

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the North American dog Man Project and you can find

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it at North Americandogman Project dot com. And he and

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I did a two hour conversation and you might have

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encourage you to go back and listen to part one

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prior to listening to this episode. But that would be

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episode forty four, dog Man Terror at Land Between the

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Lakes with Jody Cook, Part one, and that was the

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last episode generally speaking. I released these two parters within

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because this was an incredible discussion that Jody and I had,

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and we talked about Land between the lakes. We talked

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about dog Man other cryptids as well, but just had

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a really fantastic discussion. So sit back, buckle up, and

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get to it. Now. Hang on, we're going in. So

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does the government know these things are real?

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quick on the the encounters that I had. I did

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a lecture okay at a coffee shop one day, and

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was in this.

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about dog Man? Okay, So you know, I'm I'm doing

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this lecture and that you know, two guys walk in

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wearing suits and they go sit in the back and

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they're like notebooks, just like writing stuff and so forth.

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I have friends there. And the lecture's over and you know,

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people saying hi, it was great, you know, and ask questions.

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they pull out their badges and you know they're with

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the NSA. Oh okay, and I'm like, okay, am I

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in trouble or something? They go, no, we're just listening

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to your lecture. And I made the joke. I said,

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copy everything. And he looked at me straight face and says,

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no worries, we have it already. I'm not kid. Yeah,

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and he said and like I said, I have all

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these witnesses to back this up. And he says, don't

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you a question about it and that and that's what

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very public place. And he goes, that's fine. You know

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you know when I say this. The one thing that

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on his pinking. Okay, and anybody tells you work for

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the government, you can't wear anything except you know your

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wedding there. Okay, you can't wear any other jewelry. Your

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watch has to be a specific type of watch. It

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can't be blaming or anything like that. So we're talking

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and he pulls out a folder and in the folder,

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you know, he pushes though to me because I want

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your opinion on this. I open it up and it's

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a it's a dead dog man, Okay, laying on the

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side of the road. He goes, we didn't kill it.

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pictures of the body. Uh looked really real. I mean

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it really did. You know. The the genital tools were

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like human genitals. I'm not kidding. The front poles were

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like like a hand, almost massive chest. It had two

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sets of canines, which was really weird.

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so it literally killed this thing. And and so it's

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I said, it looked real. It really did. Looked one

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hundred percent real. So I gave all my opinion what

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skeleton of a dog man that's on a silver medical table.

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a podcast and someone was asking me about have you

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it stands, I said yeah, and he asked my opinion.

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of joints and their hip in their arms, so where

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hear about people shooting them point blank and it doesn't

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that the stern them is one big massive bone going

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bone protecting the chest. Okay, I kid you not. The

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skeleton had all of that. It had the massive bone

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that was on the chest like I always believed it was.

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an extra set behind it. Oh wow, okay, but yeah,

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always thought a dog man skeleton would be. And it

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was about seven feet. The skeleton was. The body was

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probably about seven feet, very slender body, massive chest on

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the skeleton, and the the dead dog man. But like

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the genitals were very human and you know, the I

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even have drink or anything. It was like I came

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thinking myself, Man, am I going to get punked? Hair?

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dog man on the gurney.

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man on a journey and actually it's from a movie

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from Brazil. That surprise me. Yeah yeah, but if you

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it looks real, but you can tell it's not. This

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body was real. I mean to me, it was. It

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was one hundred percent. So, like I said, those were

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the only two encounters I have with the federal government.

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NSA because the NSA is data collector. That's all they do. Okay,

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they collect data and they do, you know, analyze data.

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was at speaking at a dog Man conference in Paris,

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Texas or Paris, Tennessee. And there was a retired federal

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agent that was there that I was talking to. He

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He goes, let me tell you, all government aidencies work together. Okay.

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someone about something and they don't want people knows the CIA,

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then they use another agency that's less threatening, which is

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the NSA, Okay, compared to Homeland Security or the FBI

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or the Department of Defense or whatever. Okay, because everybody

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knows the NSA is just data collecting, and you know

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that's it. So he says, they their badges are almost

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the same. They can get an ID from every single

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agency out there, you know. And you know that's these

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guys were probably from a different agency coming to me

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as the NSA. You know that that that's what he said.

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I'm thinking, well, that's probably what it is, but still,

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you know that was it. It was those two. I've

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never heard anything yet from anybody again or nothing, you know,

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so it was crazy. But then that's where I go

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back and say, you know, I don't believe these stories

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about people having the government coming in threatening in their lives. Okay,

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you know, does it happen. It could happen. Honestly, I'm

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not gonna you know, doubt that it probably doesn't. But

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it's it's just you know, if you if a dog

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man's an asset to the government, you killed it. Yeah,

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you know, they're going to be reading about how you

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committed suicide. I mean, I'm serious, you know, you know

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what I'm saying. They're not going to let you go

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on a podcast and talk about how the government you know,

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threatened you and took your bank account away and all

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this other crazy stuff. Yeah you know, you know they're

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going to put CP on your computer or something like that,

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ladies and gentlemen, if you're just joining us.

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Speaker 2: But.

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Speaker 4: They they do, they have a lot of because I've

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heard several different descriptions all these things. The hyena face

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one that you were kind of describing with the main

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and then there's more of a looks like a like

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a more slender but tall upright wolf. And then there's

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I don't know, there's just so many variations. I got tail,

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they don't have a tail. Then there's the digit grade

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legs versus planted grade legs, and right you hear both

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of those. Are we dealing with the same thing in

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all of these or is it possible that we're dealing

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with maybe different branches of the family tree here.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's my opinion. Okay, yeah, and okay, when it

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comes to dog man, it's a species, okay, okay, so

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you're gonna have different breeds of the species, just like

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dog canines. It's a canine species. You have different breeds.

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It's basically the same animal, but it's just different breeds.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Same thing with you know, humans, Okay, we are Homo sapiens,

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but they're different types of Homo sapiens. They're black, white, Asian,

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you know, Middle Eastern South American. We're all the same species,

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you know, but they're different breeds of us. Okay, But

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we're all the same. So it's it's kind of like

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dog Man. It's kind of like in that thing, he's

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part of a species, but they're different breeds of that species. Okay,

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And so they're like, you know, we're all different as humans. Yeah, primates, human, gorilla, chimpanzee,

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and orangutan. Okay, we're all primates. We're all part of

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the same tree, but we're all different. It's just we're

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the most intelligent of you know, the tree line. Yes, okay,

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So that's how I look at dolphin. M it's like Bigfoot,

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you know, his species. You know, they're different breeds. You know,

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the North American bigfoot is different from you know, the Yawi.

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It's different from you know, the Yetti. It's different from

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the Russian amiska. You know, it's different from the Russian

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or the Chinese wild man. You know, they're they're all

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part of the same you know, species. It's just they're

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different breeds of them. They're all different characteristics. So that

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that is the best explanation for dog Man. You know,

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you you just but here's the problem. It's not just

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around the world. Here in the United States, we have

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them all and that's what's weird is that we have

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them all here in the United States. Now, when you

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go to Europe, you know, the canine, you know, species

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or breed is what is all over Europe. They don't

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have a type three or a type two. They have

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strictly the canine variation of it. Now Australia is different.

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Australia has the type three version of the dog man.

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Speaker 4: Can you describe the types? Would you mind?

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Speaker 2: Quick? Well? The description is depending on who you're talking to,

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is is kind of different. Okay. The Type one is

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what people get confused with bigfoot. Okay, it's more of

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a characteristics of bigfoot.

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Speaker 4: Like okay, the bab based one, yeah, okay, gotcha.

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Speaker 2: The Type two is you know, a bigfoot type body

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but somewhat of canine characteristics. Okay. The Type three is

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the werewolf body itself but with human legs. Okay. And

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then you have the canine, which is your haling for

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Van Helsing style type dog new Okay. Those are about

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the different Those are the different types. But you know

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the very there's a variation that somebody put out that

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has like so many different types of variations of dog

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man that's been reported in the United States. But like

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I said, that's all here, but you know, Europe is

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pretty much the same. There was a town in Germany

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and I can't think of the name of it starts

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with an end. It's not Nurnberg. It's just like a

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three or four letter word. But I've got a copy

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of the newspaper print. It was from like eighteen thirty one,

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oh okay, and they were still using wood carving for

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the pictures and they put the yeah, and there were

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this werewolf came in town during the day and there

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was huge ride up about it and the artwork and

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it's a type three it's it's it's, you know, a

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typical werewolf with human style legs with four toes and

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it's a beautiful picture. We actually have it on our website,

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that picture and so, like you said, that's that's very

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well known characteristic of dog man in Europe, and even

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the Hall dog maned case in England is you know,

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the same same type characteristic.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Okay. Do you think are these like a lot

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of times we attribute Bigfoot as having almost or near

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potentially human intelligence, is the same thing potentially true for

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the dog man or are we dealing with something more feral?

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Speaker 2: No? I think I think he's highly intelligent because we've

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gotten a lot of you know, reports and encounters and

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stories from people where these things are pretty pretty intelligent.

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There are these two girls that were blocking and as

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they were coming back to her car, they encountered one.

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They ran to their car, got into car, locked the doors,

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and the thing came up to the door on the

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driver's side and was literally lifting the handle on the

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door to open it. Knew, yeah, didn't mean you know,

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it's that's intelligence. And then right outside of LBL, we

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talked with this woman that she was in the living

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room with her children. She was waiting for the husband

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to get home. Now we're trying to make y'all picture

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how the house is. So you have the living room

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and if you're sitting on the couch, you're looking at

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the hallway, and the hallway goes down to where the

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front door is. But there's a wall there, but you

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don't see it, okay, unless you walk out into the hall,

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make a left and look and you see the door.

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So the door. She hears the door open, and she

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hears the footsets. So she's thinking, okay, you know, kids,

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let's get ready for dinner. Dad's home. She said, this

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werewolf walks in and standing there this scene was able

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to turn the door knob the walk into the house. Okay,

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So she put the kids behind the couch and there

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was a baseball bat there. She grabbed the baseball bag.

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So Mama Bear's ready to fight, okay, to protect the kids,

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and it looks at her and it just she said,

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it just went right back to out of the house.

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You know, it was a it was a crazy story.

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And you know which is telling it. I mean, she

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did you have a fair and I mean, you know,

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the kids are even describing this thing too, you know

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and stuff, so yeah, you get that intelligence. And then

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one other story real quickly was this guy, old guy,

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his dog's in the kitchen like bar can go and crap.

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So he turns the kitchen light on and he walks

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over into the kitchen. He looks at the door and

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he says, there's this freaking wolf trying to come through

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the dog door. And he said, one arm in the

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head is like through the door and he's trying to

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get the guy's dog. Yeah yeah, yeah, So he's like

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beating it with the broom and everything and stuff, and

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you know, so I mean, yeah, it shows intelligence.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: We've got a comment here from Sasquatch Chronicles. A kenine's

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anatomy is designed for four legged movement, placing about two

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thirds of their bodyweight on the front legs. What other

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kenine in the planet can walk on two legs a

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normal animal? Not likely. It's physical and people see it,

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but it's not a natural animal. Do you have any

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thoughts on that, Jody.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not It's definitely not natural. You know. The

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thing of it is like the reports that we get.

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We break him up into different groups flesh and blood, supernatural,

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and extraterrestrial. Okay, we get a lot of each, honestly,

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And you know this, this creature should not exist. Okay,

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it's a fairy tale, fantasy creature. Okay, it's a nightmare

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type creature. Okay, it should not exist, but it does. Okay.

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I don't know how other way to describe it. I mean,

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he's right, you know, there's no other specie that that's

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capable of doing that, and these things should not should

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not exist, but it does.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, Jody, because you you'd you

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would mention that you saw images of the skeleton from

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this government guy. When what what did the ribcage look like?

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Because when you think of like a dog or a wolf,

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they've got a very you know, they're a little more

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narrow really from the sternum to the spine. They don't

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they don't have the flat chest like we do or

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like the great apes do you know, like the real

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pronounced sternum is very flat. What did it look like

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on this skeleton that you saw. Was it more like

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dogs like we would recognize and the canines we recognize,

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or was it more manlike?

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Speaker 2: No, it was definitely not manlike. It was definitely canine.

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You know, German shepherds and wolves are big chested dogs. Okay,

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they have a very narrow rib cage that kind of

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protrudes you know what I'm saying. Pyramid, it's the best

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way to just say. It's not it's rounded, but it's

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not really rounded. Its just it's very over Yeah, you know,

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egg shape more or less, you know, point or something

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like that. And this is how the rib cage was.

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It was. It was massive. It was long and slender,

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but like I said, it was the majority of the

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rib cage was one big, massive boom and you did

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see the ribs on the side. Okay, but like I said,

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it was just like one big massive chest bone. Sure, yeah,

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you know, but it's still you know, like our rib cage.

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It's like our ribs come up and it comes to

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like a you know, a point where the sternam is

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you know, I hope you know what I'm saying it.

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You know, it was just like that. It was just

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like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, That's why I was curious, because because again,

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when we're talking about something that can be bipedal or

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it can be quadrupedal, you would think that, I don't know,

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there would be some more more like.

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Speaker 4: An ape kind of structure, I would think, But the

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fact that it still has that same structure. But you

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were talking about an additional hinges on the shoulders and

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the hips. So maybe that's I can't I don't really

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know how to picture that in my mind, the additional hinges.

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Speaker 2: Like you're saying, but it's a socket.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If you ever look at skeleton, okay, you see the

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sockets where where it fits in, just just imagine an

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extra one below it. Going. I'm trying to think how

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the best way to describe this. So you have the

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ones on the top or straight across, okay, and the

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ones on the bottom were right below it, but it

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was more a little bit forward.

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Speaker 4: So you'd have a ball joint and then protrusional bone

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and then another ball joint. Is that okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where you had the two ball joints instead of

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being on top of each up and down, it was

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you had one on top that was like you said,

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just like going across like you're holding your arms out,

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and the other one was just right below it, but

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it was just a little bit forward.

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Speaker 4: Oh interesting, okay, yeah, okay, well that helps.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, because the one thing I know this because

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I asked the guy said, you know the ones, the

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ones blow that were below it and and forward were

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for when it was down all fours okay okay, And

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I said, yeah, yeah, that's that's what it is. It's

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just now the one you know within the hip how

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the hip bone, you know, it was very you know, elongated,

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you know, like a dog, and it was kind of

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the same it was below it, but it was kind

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of forward. But what was kind of odd about the

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the hip bone you were able to see a lot

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of fractures and the hip bone like like German shepherds,

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get that hip displays, you know, And I don't know

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if that's what that was, but there was like a

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whole lot of fractured man that was in in the

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pelvis area.

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Speaker 4: That's maybe what I got hit by a car.

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Speaker 2: It just wasn't it was now this No, this the

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skeleton was completely different from the body. It wasn't. It

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wasn't the same creature. It was. It was different because

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that's why he said. The skeleton. When you looked at

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the skeleton, it was not a brand new skeleton. It

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you know, it was yellowish color. There's black spots and

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stuff that was on it. You know, it was old.

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I mean it was old skeleton. Some of the teeth

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were even missing. Some of the bat canines and our

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molars and stuff were missing in it. There was a

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00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,000
part of the nose there was like a chip on

471
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,519
part of the nose that was busted off, and there

472
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:06,680
was like a fracture line that was like on I

473
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,559
guess would have been the right side of the skull

474
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:15,000
that kind of like went up a little bit. But yeah,

475
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:18,519
like I said, you know, it was a very very old,

476
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:25,159
old looking skeleton. So that the skeleton probably you know,

477
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,239
they had for years or something to you know, to

478
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:34,960
that effect. And you know, and here's the thing. I

479
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,760
always believe that we have remains of Bigfoot, we have

480
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:46,239
remains of dog man. And I really believe that somewhere

481
00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:51,880
inside in Thethsonian Institute and a crate under a pair

482
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,480
of steps or something like that, is a crate that

483
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:58,079
has a skeleton of a Bigfoot or a skeleton of

484
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:06,599
a dog man or something. Because the they only put

485
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:10,400
out an exhibit if they have more than one. If

486
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,280
they don't have more than one, they don't put it

487
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,960
out as an exhibit. Okay, it stays in a box

488
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:20,639
until they get another one and then they put it

489
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:26,559
out a you know, so the Smithsonian. The guy I

490
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:29,760
was talking to who worked for the Smithsonian told me

491
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:36,400
that they still have stuff that they don't know about

492
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:43,840
because they're still moving stuff from paper to computer on

493
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:50,199
what they have, you know, they said, is so big,

494
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:56,280
the warehouses are so big. They don't know what they have.

495
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,159
And some of these crates and stuff. So you know,

496
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,840
they could have you know, a brand new species of

497
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,840
dinosaur that no one knows about that's sitting in the crate.

498
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, they could have a you know, unknown species

499
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,320
of a bear sitting in some crate or some type

500
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:25,199
of animal that you know, not encrypted, but some other

501
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,679
type of animal.

502
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:33,079
Speaker 2: Uh, through evolution that changed to what they are today

503
00:36:33,679 --> 00:36:36,320
that's in a crate. You know, they just they just

504
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,280
don't know what's there. And that's why I said, if I,

505
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,440
if I had a million dollars to lay down on

506
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:47,159
the table, I would guarantee that inside Amithsonian they have

507
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,320
at least a body of a big foot. Yeah, inside

508
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:52,800
that place.

509
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems. I mean, there's of course, uh long

510
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,920
long legends of the Smithsonian coming through and like visiting

511
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,599
the giant mountains and stuff and removing bones never to

512
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:06,840
be seen again. Yeah. I mean there's so many claims

513
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,119
of that, so it seems there must be something love

514
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:09,719
luck Cave.

515
00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 2: Okay. If I was president of the United States, I

516
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,440
would cut off funding to bisonians until they until they

517
00:37:18,519 --> 00:37:19,440
released everything.

518
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:20,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

519
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: I said, you're not getting a penny to you show

520
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,840
the bodies of the giants by foot all this other stuff.

521
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,079
Speaker 4: So I guess the next natural question then, is is

522
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:34,719
there an active cover up on a governmental level or

523
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,239
departmental level or what do you think on that?

524
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: It's hard saying, you know that I okay, the FBI,

525
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:53,360
all right, like has two thousand classified documents on bigfoot? Okay, okay, okay, yeah,

526
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:56,280
yeah they do. I wrote them on the Free to

527
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,760
Information Act about Bigfoot, and I got like twenty two

528
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:08,000
copies of just nonsense okay, literally nonsense. But the report

529
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:13,800
that you get with it states very clearly that there's

530
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:19,639
two thousand plus documents that are classified that cannot be released. Okay.

531
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:24,280
So I asked the FBI kids. You know, they give

532
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,840
you a contact person there, right, okay, if you have

533
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,480
any questions about your Freedom of Information Act. So I

534
00:38:30,519 --> 00:38:32,519
call the FBI and I talked to this guy and

535
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:35,119
I'm like, you know, can you tell me about these

536
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:39,239
two thousand classified documents? And he was really cool, you

537
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,000
know about it? And he goes, look, FBI doesn't go

538
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,239
looking for monsters. Okay, we have more important things to do.

539
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:53,000
But when we have two thousand classified documents on bigfoot,

540
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:56,440
this is why we have it. Okay. When an FBI

541
00:38:56,599 --> 00:39:02,679
agent is out conducting it a field operation, he is

542
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,320
trained to document everything, regardless of what it is. So

543
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,000
if he sees something it looks like a bigfoot, he's

544
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,559
going to put it in his document. Well, that investigations

545
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:18,159
he's on may be classified or deemed classified. So that's

546
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,159
why it's classified, not because of the bigfoot that was

547
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:27,800
reported in there. It's the operation itself or they were

548
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:34,480
seen on a government property that is classified, okay, or

549
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:36,920
something to that effect. And that's the way he explained it.

550
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,119
And that makes sense. Okay, that really makes sense.

551
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 4: Gotcha.

552
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:50,159
Speaker 2: So the Department of Agriculture, I believe, is collecting a

553
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:56,719
whole lot of data when it comes to cryptids, because

554
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,239
that's yeah that you know, the US four Services under

555
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,440
the Department of Agriculture. Okay, yeah, so that that's why

556
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,039
they would be doing it, you know, so they would

557
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:14,360
have to monitor, you know, if there's something going on.

558
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:25,760
I had a veterinarian from the Usvorce Service contact me. Okay,

559
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:30,199
she goes, man, I love your site and stuff, and

560
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,199
you know, she goes, you know, this is you know

561
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:36,559
who I am, this is who I work for. You

562
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:41,039
can look it up and stuff. I'm coming to you confidential,

563
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:45,039
you know, you know, don't release my name or anything

564
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:52,519
like that. But she goes, we're finding grizzly bears and

565
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:59,039
black bears dug up out of there. Then who are hibernating,

566
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:05,159
and their bodies are literally crushed, their chests are crushed

567
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:09,400
where something dug them out and killed them. Didn't eat

568
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,440
on them or anything, but literally killed them. So what

569
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:20,480
animal was out there that's big enough, mean enough, two

570
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:25,239
strong dig? Yeah, strong enough to dig a grizzly bear,

571
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:29,760
a sleeping grizzly bear, you know, out of harbornation and

572
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,360
kill it. You know, my personal band, it's a bigfoot

573
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,559
that's doing it. Okay, but this is what she said.

574
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:44,400
They were finding large canine tracks along with scratch marks

575
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,559
on trees, and the scratch marks are different than a

576
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,519
normal bear scratch mark on a tree.

577
00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:58,519
Speaker 4: In what way do you can you elaborate or do

578
00:41:58,599 --> 00:41:59,039
you know?

579
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:04,199
Speaker 2: Well, she's she just said. It's a bear normally hits

580
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,760
one particular spot on a tree. Okay, he may go

581
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,119
back to that tree again and do it again in

582
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,320
the same area. Okay, it's normally higher up on the

583
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,960
tree because the bear is standing up. Okay. These scratch

584
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:24,559
marks are going all around the tree, from the bottom

585
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:27,440
of the tree going up about seven feet, I mean

586
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:32,119
just literally all around a tree. Bears don't do that,

587
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,039
she goes, Bears do not do that. Whatever dug these

588
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:41,599
bears up and kill them. We're marking the trees next

589
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:42,039
to them.

590
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:45,039
Speaker 4: Oh my wow.

591
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

592
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it could very well be a dog man.

593
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: It could be a dog man. I you know, we

594
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:58,360
discussed this, and you know, it could be a big

595
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,440
foot too, or it could be an all brand new cryptid,

596
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,880
you know, but she did stay. Yeah. They were finding

597
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:12,079
extremely large canine tracks, but they were also finding human

598
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:17,800
style tracks, you know, like bigfoot also, so maybe they're

599
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,000
working hand in hand getting rid of the threat. I

600
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:24,079
don't know, But like I said, I can't verify the story.

601
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,360
You know, I was able to verify who, you know,

602
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,159
who she was and her credentials and so forth, but

603
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,159
you know, I can't verify, you know, because she didn't

604
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:38,760
provide me with any evidence because I asked. They said, man,

605
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,679
can you give me some pictures that it was like,

606
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,880
She's like, no, no, but I'll tell you, yeah, that's

607
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:49,679
not going to happen because it would got back to her. Yeah,

608
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,639
you know that she was the one, she was the weakend.

609
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

610
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, So got a question in the chat from Jose.

611
00:43:57,639 --> 00:44:02,000
He says, Mike, dogman have also been leftover species from

612
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:07,199
like the Island dinosaur era, any ideas on their age appearance,

613
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,320
in other words, when did they show up in your opinion?

614
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,880
Can you elaborate on that?

615
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: Uh Me, I did this article about dog men and

616
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:27,199
these different civilizations that spoke about dog men, you know,

617
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,519
through biblical times and things like that. So it's like

618
00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:36,760
when I was in Iraq, our interpreter was telling us

619
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:42,119
about a tribe of dogheaded people that lived in the

620
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:46,719
mountains that would come down and you know, trade and

621
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,039
this is this is when Iraq was Babylon, Okay, would

622
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:54,480
come down in trade and they were able, they were

623
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:59,880
smart enough to understand our language, but we couldn't understand theirs. Okay.

624
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:08,000
So there's a lot of historical out there about dog

625
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:14,119
headed people. The Vikings talked about dog you know, having

626
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,320
fights with dog headed people, and they even talked about

627
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:21,280
here in the United States when they were here in America,

628
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,360
you know that there was a race of dog headed people.

629
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:33,360
Uh they were fighting with there was oh I'm trying

630
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:43,880
to think, mmmm, sat Christopher, Yeah, yeah, the dog headed Saint.

631
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,679
You know. The story behind that is that he belonged

632
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,239
to a tribe that the Christians fought against and he

633
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,559
was the only survivor and they captured him and taught

634
00:45:56,599 --> 00:46:02,840
him Christianity and he became a saint, but they had

635
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:10,920
to change his parents to look like a human. Okay, okay,

636
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:18,159
yeah yeah, but there's actual, actual pictures of paint, the

637
00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:21,360
original saint where he's he's a doghead.

638
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. The interesting thing though, is he's he's very much

639
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,360
depicted with a very keenid snout and everything, but then

640
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,639
he's also depicted as this bearded man.

641
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,159
Speaker 2: So I was, yeah, I was at a Christian store

642
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:42,119
and I saw Saint Christopher metal and it was a

643
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:42,719
dog head.

644
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:44,599
Speaker 4: Wow, that's cool on there.

645
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: And it's like, this isn't a Christian Catholic store. Yeah,

646
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,840
I'm like, but it wasn't for sale. It was like

647
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,559
something they hadn't displayed. And I was like, man, that

648
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,159
is neat.

649
00:46:55,199 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 4: I want that.

650
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,199
Speaker 2: And it's like, yep, that's the only one we got.

651
00:46:59,360 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 4: That's too bad.

652
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

653
00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:02,519
Speaker 4: Do you know what he's the I don't know this,

654
00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:05,559
but is he a patron saint of something? Like usually

655
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:09,320
all these saints are a saint of some something.

656
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: He's at protection protection.

657
00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:14,159
Speaker 4: Okay, sure that makes sense because I.

658
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: Believe because I know I'm a Catholic and I should

659
00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:17,559
know that, but.

660
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,639
Speaker 4: You know, you can go to confessionals later.

661
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,599
Speaker 2: I have to have to deal with that. Yeah, but.

662
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 4: It did. I forgot what I was going to say now,

663
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:35,360
because anyway, that's very interesting. I think it's it's fascinating

664
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:40,760
to me. Do you think that these sinuscephaly are I mean,

665
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,719
obviously if they got dog heads, but they were very

666
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,280
much man like other than that, weren't they.

667
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: And all their pictions they were the the the Iraqi

668
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,599
interpreter was telling us they they wore clothes, yeah, okay,

669
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:02,280
the close they actually wore cloths. Okay, uh, the Vikings

670
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:07,719
and the one story I wrote, the one story that

671
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:13,920
I did that the Vikings said they were naked. They

672
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,840
weren't wearing any any cloths or anything like that. They

673
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:24,599
were all completely you know, hair bodies. But they were

674
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,840
carrying weapons. They were able to know how to use

675
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:33,159
weapons because they were using swords from the dead Vikings.

676
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 4: Okay, so yeah, but yeah, I mean, that's that's fascinating.

677
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:43,239
Do you think that's a direct lineage to what we

678
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,239
have over here as well? Or do we not have

679
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,480
that represented in the in the the canid species that

680
00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:50,599
might be here in America.

681
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:54,119
Speaker 2: There here's the thing, Like, if you look at Native

682
00:48:54,119 --> 00:49:00,000
American culture, there is really nothing in there, right, okay

683
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:05,559
that deals with the dog man except the Shawnee talked

684
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:11,840
about the wolf they'll walk like a man. That was

685
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,480
like the only thing I could ever find out when

686
00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:19,800
you talked about the skin walker and naive American culture.

687
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:28,159
Could the skin walker itself be misidentified as you know,

688
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:31,639
or dog man being misidentified as a skin walker. That's

689
00:49:31,679 --> 00:49:37,360
a possible chance. So the winding go Now, the windy

690
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,639
goo is is like the Native American version of the devil. Okay,

691
00:49:41,679 --> 00:49:46,199
So that's something like, yeah, yeah, it's a demon something

692
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,440
completely completely different.

693
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,159
Speaker 4: Lucy, I think it's the name for the windy dude.

694
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,440
How big is a dog man print? Like, it's not

695
00:49:57,559 --> 00:50:00,639
just the size of like a great like a big dog.

696
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,920
It's I've heard when I talked to Vin vic Kumdef

697
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,599
he was like, like the size of a dinner plate

698
00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:09,320
kind of a thing. Have you ever seen anything like that?

699
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,639
Or what is what is your experience with the print?

700
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 2: We we have a picture of a print that was

701
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,760
taken in Germantown, Ohio, Okay, And I've got the cast

702
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:25,760
and I got the picture of the print. It's you know,

703
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,480
there's still water that's like in this print. When I

704
00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:33,920
found it, it looks like a bearer. Okay, it looks

705
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,880
like a large grizzly bearer. Okay. But here's the problem

706
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:43,360
with that. If it was from the size of it, okay,

707
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if it was a grizzly bear, for it was even

708
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a black bear, you know, this thing would had to

709
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be eight hundred pounds, literally eight hundred pounds. I even

710
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gave a picture to the the Ohio Department Natural Resources

711
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because prior to that, we have a dog man screen

712
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that's on there. And they came to us and they say, look,

713
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can we have a copy of this for our records

714
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because we have nothing like this, and they couldn't match

715
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it up to any audio of any domestic animal in

716
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the state of Ohio. It didn't match up to anything.

717
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So they asked if they can have a copy of

718
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it when we gain a copy of it. So the

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contact I sent him a picture of the cast next

720
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to a two hundred and fifty pounds black bear cast

721
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that I took in Ohio, because we have black bear

722
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and this Saint dwarfs, and like I said, that pictures

723
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on the website also both cast together.

724
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Speaker 4: Cool.

725
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Speaker 2: And he said, you know, if this was if this

726
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was a bear, okay, black bears, we never got this big.

727
00:51:54,599 --> 00:51:56,599
If it was a grizzly bear, people would have known

728
00:51:56,679 --> 00:51:59,639
it was a grizzly okay, which we don't have grizzlies

729
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,840
right in this part of the country. But he said this,

730
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this animal would have if it was a bear, would

731
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have to be eight hundred to one thousand pounds from

732
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,880
the size of the print. Wow, okay. And he said

733
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the thing about bears is that they're noose and animals,

734
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they let you know they're there. Okay, people would have

735
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:26,119
if this was a large bear, people would have seen it. Okay, Okay,

736
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Now what makes this print look like a large grizzly

737
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bear print? Because you have to understand, okay, when an

738
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:41,159
animal is large thousand pounds, eight hundred pounds, it has

739
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to have a wider foot in order to support the weight.

740
00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:53,440
You can't have a narrow, small foot supporting eight hundred pounds. Okay,

741
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:57,360
It's just not going to happen. So I think that

742
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:03,280
this was a much wider or print that kind of what.

743
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:08,440
It's four toed, it's not five. It has four toes

744
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,760
and Uh, it's it's very wide to support the weight

745
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of the animal.

746
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Speaker 4: Okay.

747
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Speaker 2: That that's my opinion because, like you said, when you

748
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,400
see it next to the black bear print, the black

749
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,760
bear prints very narrow, very narrow, and you look at

750
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,519
the big foot prints, you know, the the the ankles

751
00:53:30,639 --> 00:53:36,320
forward because of the weight on the uh you know,

752
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:42,159
the foot in order to support the weight it. Yeah,

753
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:46,840
it's much different. So you know, I I have one

754
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,760
really good print, and I think I had like two

755
00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:54,400
other prints that weren't that good. It's just it's whatever

756
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,800
this thing was. It was in the tree line and

757
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,840
you saw where it was standing in the tree line,

758
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,239
stepped out of the tree line, made the print, and

759
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,559
it kind of like went back into the tree line.

760
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:10,760
So yeah, so, like you said, the print really good

761
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,199
and it has large nails claws to it. But like

762
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I said, it's not a fake, and that that's the

763
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:25,320
thing the dn R looked at it. It's not a fake.

764
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,719
I mean, this is what I mean. Whatever made that

765
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,719
print made that print, and when you look at it

766
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,800
you can see it's it's you know, there's no way

767
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,760
something somebody walked there with a grizzly bear print just

768
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,239
threw it down on the ground because a grizzly bear,

769
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,800
you know, it has it has the front pad and

770
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,800
it has a smaller backpad. Okay, and that smaller backpad

771
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,800
would have showed up and you can see where it

772
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:59,639
went into the mud. It doesn't have that smaller back pad.

773
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Speaker 4: Right. We're getting down to just minutes now, Jody, and

774
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I want to make sure you have time to tell

775
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,920
people how to stay in touch with you, where to

776
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,840
find your books, and where to keep up with what

777
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:12,360
you're doing.

778
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:20,119
Speaker 2: Okay. They can go on www. North americandog Manproject dot com.

779
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:23,840
At the top of the page. There's a email that

780
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,159
says NADB Questions at hotmail dot com. If you have

781
00:55:28,199 --> 00:55:31,400
a questions, you can email me there. If you want

782
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,960
to join, you can go on to the website and

783
00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:40,639
join that way. You can contact me through my Facebook page.

784
00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:44,559
You can contact me through any of the North American

785
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:49,840
dog Man Facebook pages that's out there. Like you said,

786
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,480
if you want to join one of the chapters for

787
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:57,639
your state, go on Facebook. You can do it that way.

788
00:55:58,119 --> 00:56:00,280
If you have a siding you you know you want

789
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,519
to report, please report it on the website. That way

790
00:56:03,559 --> 00:56:07,719
we can document it. You can find my books on Amazon.

791
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:16,880
So yeah, I did a I did three magazines called

792
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:21,880
Crypto Seekers Magazine, and you can go on McLoud dot

793
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:26,400
com and you can find the magazines that I did

794
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,159
on there. Oh yeah, I think there's three or four

795
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,159
of them. I can't remember.

796
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, well you're gonna have to come back because

797
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,960
we've only just tapped the surface here, Jody. But it's

798
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,960
been an amazing discussion. Thank you for taking so much

799
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,239
time and not a problem for problem fielding all of

800
00:56:45,280 --> 00:57:03,000
our questions. All right, everybody. That concludes Part two of

801
00:57:03,039 --> 00:57:06,280
my interview with Jody Cook. I hope you guys enjoyed it.

802
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,480
He was a fantastic guest and we had a great discussion,

803
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:12,119
so I hope you guys had a good time with it.

804
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I hope you're spreading it around and sharing news about

805
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,239
the Paranormal Portal too, any people that you know that

806
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might also be into this. So thank you all for

807
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,880
tuning in and until next time, take care of yourselves.

808
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:48,480
All right, everybody, that's going to wrap it up for

809
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us today. So I hope you guys enjoyed the show,

810
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,239
and thank you again so much for all your love

811
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and support. And remember if you want to follow the

812
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,440
Paranormal Portal, probably the easiest way is to head over

813
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to paranormalt dot net and that's the homepage for the

814
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Paranormal Portal, and you'll find links to all of our

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different social media and sites and information about the shows,

816
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,840
including our YouTube channel which is YouTube dot com slash

817
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,559
Paranormal Portal, or just look for Paranormal Portal on Google

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or whatever search engine and you'll find links to our

819
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social media such as Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and Twitter. So

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00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,880
we're kind of all over the place and we're spreading

821
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as well as we can. But anyway, thank you so

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much for the love and support you all. Take care

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and remember we.

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Speaker 5: Love you all.

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help each other out, find the magic and every day

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and remember to laugh as much as you can until

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next time.

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