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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the nonprofits.

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<v Speaker 2>In our second segment this week, we look at one

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<v Speaker 2>of the latest cabinet level nominees that has a concerning history.

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<v Speaker 2>Our newest nonprofit ejector Seat is here to tell us

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<v Speaker 2>all about it.

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<v Speaker 1>EJ.

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<v Speaker 3>So, today we have a story from Mother Jones by

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<v Speaker 3>Isabella Das Russell Vaught, head of the Center for Renewing

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<v Speaker 3>America think tank, was confirmed as the head of the

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<v Speaker 3>Office of Management and Budget for the United States of America. Today,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to bring you a look at what this

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<v Speaker 3>office does, what they're responsible for, and possible ramifications. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>a quick background on vot himself so we can see

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<v Speaker 3>who is at the helm of this beheamoth a man

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<v Speaker 3>with links to Project twenty twenty five and has openly

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<v Speaker 3>sided with anti constitutional, anti human and even as evangelical

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<v Speaker 3>types tend to do anti Christian values. This will be

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<v Speaker 3>a roller coaster, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Strappan definitely, definitely a roller coaster there. So EJ.

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<v Speaker 2>So, let's set aside for a moment that this person

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<v Speaker 2>and would have the ear of the person in the

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<v Speaker 2>White House. What other than that, Other than have that,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a huge thing right there. But setting

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<v Speaker 2>that aside what specifically would fall under his control as

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<v Speaker 2>director of the OMB.

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<v Speaker 3>So as leaders of the OMB, the OMB has a

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<v Speaker 3>critical role in the executive branch, overseeing and managing the

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<v Speaker 3>president's budget. However, the policies and programs of federal agencies,

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<v Speaker 3>including everything from the Department of Defense to the North

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<v Speaker 3>American Space Agency NASA, are also firmly in its wheelhouse.

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<v Speaker 3>This means that the OMB has a thinker in every

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<v Speaker 3>federal pie, which means any federal work can be defunded

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<v Speaker 3>or stopped by the OMB or the head of it.

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<v Speaker 3>This in addition to the federal grants, which can be

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<v Speaker 3>revised or scrapped based on the omb's recommendations or direct action.

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<v Speaker 3>This includes grants for things like low income housing, food stamps,

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<v Speaker 3>and many more things millions of Americans rely on to live.

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<v Speaker 3>A quote from grants dot gov goes as follows be,

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<v Speaker 3>along with other bodies, has continued to play an important

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<v Speaker 3>part in interpreting and implementing the laws among the federal

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<v Speaker 3>government awarding agencies. Today, coding grant policies have been largely

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<v Speaker 3>shaped by a range of statutes, regulations, executive orders, and data.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, so it sounds like fingers and lots of

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<v Speaker 2>pies there, fingers and lots of pies and lots of

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<v Speaker 2>strict control over that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Next, I want to go over to down to Helen

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<v Speaker 1>real quick.

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<v Speaker 4>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of baggage does Vought himself? What kind of

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<v Speaker 2>baggage is he bringing to the table.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh oh, there's so much I can talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let's just start.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's just start. Okay, everybody. This is from his Wikipedia page,

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<v Speaker 5>So I highly encourage all of our wonderful viewers to

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<v Speaker 5>go look this up.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, John Oliver on his recent episode of Last Week

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<v Speaker 5>Tonight also talked about mister Vought highly recommend that you

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<v Speaker 5>should do both things because this mofo. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 5>So the Center for Renewing America combats CRT critical Theory

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<v Speaker 5>will provide the ideological ammunition to saying Trump's political movement

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<v Speaker 5>after his departure from the web House in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 5>So this is something they were planning, you know, when

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<v Speaker 5>Trump was president and when he left office. In October

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<v Speaker 5>of twenty twenty four, pro Publica reported that Vaught's proposals

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<v Speaker 5>included plans to reshape the government by using military force

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<v Speaker 5>against protesters if it deemed necessary. So that goes against

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<v Speaker 5>our freedom to assemble right defending agencies like the US

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<v Speaker 5>protect Environment Invitation Agency to reduce federal influence, and casting

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<v Speaker 5>silver servants as obstructive to conserve conservative agendas. His cra

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<v Speaker 5>aims to enact an aggressive policy approach, and he talked

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<v Speaker 5>about this on John Oliver the other night, cutting bureaocracy

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<v Speaker 5>and focusing on trumbleline conservative governance. He said he would

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<v Speaker 5>aim for a shadow office of legal counsel anything. When

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<v Speaker 5>I heard somebody says shadow, right, please be aware that

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<v Speaker 5>that is not a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>In July of twenty twenty four, Smoke candily to journalists

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<v Speaker 5>team is to a guest conservative donors. They pose I

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<v Speaker 5>saw this interview. They pose those conservative donors to get

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<v Speaker 5>him to talk about what his plans are. And the

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<v Speaker 5>tour interview he revealed the details of his plan to

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<v Speaker 5>take control over the government through presidential power. He send

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<v Speaker 5>up his core belief as Christian nationalism. Please watch this interview.

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<v Speaker 5>You just don't put in void journalist interview with just

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<v Speaker 5>look it up, it will come up. You need to

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<v Speaker 5>watch this. It is very important to because this guy's

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<v Speaker 5>in charge of our budget. Everybody, he needs to be

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<v Speaker 5>aware he is a self subscribed Christian nationalist. Oh my god, yikes, yikes, yikes.

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<v Speaker 2>Right yeah, wearing that as a badge right right on

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<v Speaker 2>the front, just you know, proud of it, proud of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Even that's that's definitely disturbing. They're definitely disturbing.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to jump back to EJ for a second here. EJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Helen was talking about some troubling things, obviously about Russell Vott.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you add anything to what she said or can

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<v Speaker 2>you give us your perspective on his past and his

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<v Speaker 2>intent his intentions with this new found power.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, what is now heading the unb a beheamoth

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<v Speaker 3>of wealth, red tape and bureaucrats. So let's see how

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<v Speaker 3>this man wishes to wield the sword has been given

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned above. He heads a think tank, which are organizations

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<v Speaker 3>that are usually used to obfuscate donations and heavily pushed agendas,

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<v Speaker 3>called the Center for Redeing America. This think tanks mission

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<v Speaker 3>statement as as follows. Our mission is to renew a

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<v Speaker 3>consensus of America as a nation under God fuck off

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<v Speaker 3>with unique interests worthy of defending that flow from its people.

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<v Speaker 3>Institutions and history where individuals enjoy free, enjoy freedom, enjoyment

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<v Speaker 3>of freedom. Sorry, it's predicated on just laws and healthy communities.

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<v Speaker 3>Their website also contains quite a large graphic frond and

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<v Speaker 3>center on the home page saying for God, Country and Community,

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<v Speaker 3>which reminds you of a certain regime from Europe a

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<v Speaker 3>while ago. And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>These rings some bells. I think does ring some bells?

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost as if there's some sort of comparison to

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<v Speaker 2>be made there that escapes me figure anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, They make it known that their calls are for

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<v Speaker 3>an American Christian theocracy and dismantling of organizations like the

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<v Speaker 3>Cybersecurity and Infra Infrastructure Security Agency CISEA, which is put

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<v Speaker 3>in place or at least had a lot of power

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<v Speaker 3>after there was some attacks on the grid showing how

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<v Speaker 3>how weak America's infrastructure power infrastructure was through physical and

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<v Speaker 3>CyberSecure it means, you know, which is something we quite need, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But they also want to get rid of the Consumer

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<v Speaker 3>Financial Protection Bureau the CFPB. I'm sure I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to explain why that's a bad idea for anyone who

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<v Speaker 3>is a billionaire. Has also made comments saying that Trump

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<v Speaker 3>is sent by God because apparently the fucker run out

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<v Speaker 3>of locusts. What has also helped co author Project.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, sorry, I'm just picturing like, so, he's the eleventh plague,

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<v Speaker 2>is what you're saying?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, little Lucus's face, it's terrible, like CGI, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't blame you, but also helped co author Project twenty

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<v Speaker 6>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>How much of it I was unable to ascertain though,

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<v Speaker 3>which detailed plans on cutting federal funding by acting things

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<v Speaker 3>like social welfare, energy solutions, and more, along with defiling

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<v Speaker 3>for schools and the abolition of subjects which teach includesivity diversity,

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<v Speaker 3>along with the hampering of reproductive rights. You know, could

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<v Speaker 3>you imagine if there was an agency that could do that,

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<v Speaker 3>that manage things like money and budgets, You really shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>put them in charge of something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, shit, jeez.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. However, Trump in the House of Congress have given

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<v Speaker 3>a man with clearly horrid intentions film control over such

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<v Speaker 3>an eggragency which regulates and controls many federal agencies through

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<v Speaker 3>policy and money. I wonder how this can go wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, just I suppose we'll just have to ride this

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<v Speaker 2>one out right, see you? Assuming we can continue riding right, Steven?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Can I ask a questions?

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<v Speaker 1>Please?

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<v Speaker 3>Do?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, because I hear that Congress controls the purse strings

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<v Speaker 4>and that's why everything that the boys are doing in

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<v Speaker 4>the White House is really unconstitutional.

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<v Speaker 6>What how?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 4>What's How does this balance that we've got this guy

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<v Speaker 4>who's in charge of money stuff, but also it's Congress

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<v Speaker 4>who is in charge of money. What's how does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a Congress is and I'm definitely not

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<v Speaker 2>an expert in this in this area, so this is

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<v Speaker 2>just my thoughts on it. I think Congress allocates the money,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think the OMB is in charge of putting

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<v Speaker 2>that into effect.

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<v Speaker 3>If I may so, please do. While I was researching this,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought the same thing because I've heard similar things. So,

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<v Speaker 3>as far as I understand it, their whole argument is

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<v Speaker 3>that the budget is given to them, and how they

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<v Speaker 3>allocate it is mostly up to them. It's also why

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<v Speaker 3>Trump wants to do things like get rid of the penny,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a bit the only good idea he's had.

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<v Speaker 2>So the budget is given to so the O and

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<v Speaker 2>B is acting on behalf of the president. So so

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<v Speaker 2>Congress basically hands the money to the OMB.

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<v Speaker 3>What you're saying, as far as I understand it, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>they give the OMB money and they tried to Well,

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<v Speaker 3>they should try to work with what Congress has given. However,

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<v Speaker 3>evidently rules that were written before any of us were

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Is is it something along the lines of like laws?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because Congress makes the laws and then the

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<v Speaker 2>executive branches in charge of executing those laws and enforcing them.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it kind of a relationship similar to that or.

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<v Speaker 3>Kinda so with policies sot inter agency policies and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of it goes through the executive branch, and

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<v Speaker 3>thus the UNB they have general say on stuff like well,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to and you want to have best policy,

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<v Speaker 3>will allocate so much funding so they can essentially just

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<v Speaker 3>strip agencies away by saying we're going to severely underfund

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<v Speaker 3>you to where you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Do your job right right? All right? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks, I learned something new today, EJ. I do

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<v Speaker 2>want to jump over to Steven here real quick. I

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<v Speaker 2>want I want to get your opinion on this as

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<v Speaker 2>a Canadian. I want you to lend us your your

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<v Speaker 2>Canadian eyes here. I mean, how does this look from

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<v Speaker 2>from up north? What does what's your take on this?

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's wild, it's weird, it's strange, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>am very it just it makes me really cognizant of

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that I have never had to worry about

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<v Speaker 4>like things like social welfare and healthcare being jeopardized because

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<v Speaker 4>of the religious beliefs that influence one given political party.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's just so hardbak into our structure, into our

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<v Speaker 4>systems that of course we won't have healthcare. Of course

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to be looking out for the social well

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<v Speaker 4>being of people. That that isn't up for grabs, that

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<v Speaker 4>isn't on the table to be negotiated with. It isn't

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<v Speaker 4>a chip that can be put into can be anted

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<v Speaker 4>up to get what someone wants. So it's just it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's wild, and it makes me really appreciate. Like here

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<v Speaker 4>in ours we have multiple parties that run for a

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<v Speaker 4>the year two thousand eight, of our years have been

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<v Speaker 4>one of the political parties has gotten the most votes,

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<v Speaker 4>but they haven't gotten the majority of the votes. So

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<v Speaker 4>if they want to get anything done, if they want

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<v Speaker 4>They have to get other people on board, they have

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<v Speaker 4>are representing, what they're wanting. And it just makes me

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<v Speaker 4>some cases it's not. In every case, we had a

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<v Speaker 4>was an authority and that's something that we all fear.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, that's what a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying there's advantages to having a multi party system, right,

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<v Speaker 4>YEA, well yeah, and like that, and especially as an outsider,

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<v Speaker 4>like that's all that I see when I look towards

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<v Speaker 4>recent years, it's always going to be Okay, well, we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to either completely stop you from doing anything that

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what we want to do and you be down

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, Well, we're fortunate enough today to have two non

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to hear as someone from Europe, a

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<v Speaker 2>the whole fascism authoritarianism thing before. I mean, what's your

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<v Speaker 3>So, first of all, I've seen marches in America. We're

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<v Speaker 3>openly fascist groups feel freedom, and I am horrified of that.

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<v Speaker 3>In Europe. The last time we allowed fascist to march,

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<v Speaker 3>we marched them to the galops. It's not fair on

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<v Speaker 3>to be out like in public and saying that their agendas,

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<v Speaker 3>which usually involved the deaths of millions, if not hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>of millions, is completely fine to do, and that they

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<v Speaker 3>feel comfortable doing it with the current government, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sorry that you all have to go through this. Europe

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<v Speaker 3>and many other nations will always stand against the fight

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<v Speaker 3>of fascism. We've been through it. We know what we're

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<v Speaker 3>going we know how to help. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>let America fall to an elness we thought we got

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<v Speaker 3>rid of in forty five. There's already political machinations at

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<v Speaker 3>work inside America and outside of it working to put

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<v Speaker 3>a stop to this in any way we can keep

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<v Speaker 3>your chin up. This can't last forever.

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<v Speaker 2>That does That is kind of reassuring. Actually, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that you know, the world has our back kind of,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least much of the world. That that that

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<v Speaker 2>is very That is very reassuring. I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>jump down to Helen now here, down, I say, down

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<v Speaker 2>on my screen. They're all vertical out here, all right

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<v Speaker 2>over here, over this way, this way here, this way over.

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<v Speaker 1>To Helen here.

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<v Speaker 2>So in the previous section, I asked whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>the new regime in Washington was merely giving lip service

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<v Speaker 2>to religion, or if it really did take religious perspective seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let's flip that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think Russell Vott is hitching his cart to

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<v Speaker 2>this particular wagon merely out of convenience, or do you

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<v Speaker 2>think their ideologies aligned? Do you think Vought is in

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<v Speaker 2>alignment with the current regime, or do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a it's a.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my enemy of my enemy is my friend

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he was part of Project twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 5>that is like uber religious and like this is the

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<v Speaker 5>thing about like this whole governmental structure. I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>where the griff ends and the belief begins. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Because you can be a very conservative want all all

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<v Speaker 5>the power to go to the executive branch and not

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<v Speaker 5>buy into the religious crap, or the religious crap aligns

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<v Speaker 5>with your politics. I don't know anymore. I honestly do

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<v Speaker 5>not know, because we've obviously with Trump, who by definition

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<v Speaker 5>reminds me of the Antichrist if you've read Revelations. So

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<v Speaker 5>that's happened. But a lot of Christians think that he

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<v Speaker 5>is their you know, embodiment of their Lord and Savior.

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<v Speaker 5>So again I don't know anymore, and I don't and

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<v Speaker 5>at this point, I don't think if fucking matters.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly don't think it matters. This dude is terrible.

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<v Speaker 5>The fact that he wants all the power to go

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<v Speaker 5>to the executive branch, which is a real problem because

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<v Speaker 5>that was against our constitution and the whole way that

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<v Speaker 5>we said up our country that we do not have

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<v Speaker 5>a monarchy, we do not have a king, we don't

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<v Speaker 5>have a theocrisy, we don't have a god you know,

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<v Speaker 5>god given right king. That is very important to point out,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think it's very concerning when we're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>And as each a pointed out, they've.

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<v Speaker 5>Been through this, They've been through these people that think

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<v Speaker 5>they are given God given powers, you know, or they're

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<v Speaker 5>like super special boys, and you know, they get to

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<v Speaker 5>their face, which gives me hope because fascism does not last.

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<v Speaker 5>It never does, It never ever does. And I and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry people like this is what we're facing right now.

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<v Speaker 5>And though it the reason why he does not last,

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<v Speaker 5>because the rest of us stand up to it, we

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<v Speaker 5>say like no, sorry, uhh, that's not a thing. And

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<v Speaker 5>Void wants to be part of that regime because he

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<v Speaker 5>thinks is even if he is not, you know, a

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<v Speaker 5>religious person, his politics align with Project twenty five because

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So it was like you watch my back or

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because biggest stick together. I'm sorry, they stick together.

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<v Speaker 5>And he wants he wants an authority in government. Like

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<v Speaker 5>I've watched him. I've watched this interview people. He he's

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, EJ. Did you want to add something

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, just on the Revelations prophecy. It says that there

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<v Speaker 3>will be a false Messiah who comes and tracts most

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<v Speaker 3>Christians and they will wear his brand on their forehead.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've never seen a Bible Bible prophecy is right,

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<v Speaker 3>but fuck me if there's one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, maybe that's the evidence we need, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the evidence we've been waiting for.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a God and he's a fucker.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now, I'd be like, actually, your prophecy is true.

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<v Speaker 5>Blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now all right, I have one more question and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>direct this one to Stephen first. So is this this

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<v Speaker 2>one nomination and confirmation? Is this the result of a

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<v Speaker 2>democratic process?

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<v Speaker 1>If not, how is it not? But if it is,

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't we respect that?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, as as people that support democracy and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that want to see democracy prevail in the world. If

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<v Speaker 2>this is a democratically the process here, right, the confirmation process,

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<v Speaker 2>the nomination process, and all that kind of thing, are

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<v Speaker 2>we actually by standing by, you know, talking against this

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<v Speaker 2>nominee this, or actually he's not a nominee anymore, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a cabinet member. By by talking against this, are we

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<v Speaker 2>poo pooing the whole democratic process or what?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? Yeah, you've got forty five in office there that

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<v Speaker 4>was allegedly democratic. Yeah, Like the system is broken, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 4>But it's a system of defunding and not prioritizing education

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<v Speaker 4>allowing people to be manipulated and brought to this place.

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<v Speaker 4>So is a democratic Yeah? Is it broken?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't need to improve.

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<v Speaker 4>How many people have to die before that happens?

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<v Speaker 2>Time will tell, right, Right, Well, I think that's excellent,

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<v Speaker 2>an excellent point to end at. Right there, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>I want to thank all of you for watching us