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Cougar Sports 39 00:01:47,959 --> 00:01:51,159 Insider representing KSEL dot com. We got d Sean Walker. 40 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: What's up, Sean Walker, Ben, It's always a pleasure to 41 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:01,519 be alive on a Friday night in Salt Lake City, 42 00:02:01,879 --> 00:02:03,680 counting a little bit of my own seampunk I. 43 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 4: Know' that means absolutely loving to you. But that was 44 00:02:05,799 --> 00:02:07,560 a nod for Brent Farron for the rest of the 45 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,599 crew over it at ESPN the fan because. 46 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: If you know, you know, yes, indeed, it's a beautiful 47 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,479 the Hey, we got moisture, man, I'm grateful. It is colder, 48 00:02:16,159 --> 00:02:18,280 but we got a ton of moisture, which is great 49 00:02:18,319 --> 00:02:21,680 for our high deserts. I'm feeling grateful right now. Despite 50 00:02:22,039 --> 00:02:26,840 the BYU basketball team not meaning expectations this year. Sean 51 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,439 Lunardi Joe Leonardi now projecting BYU as a seven seed. 52 00:02:32,439 --> 00:02:35,280 Have we fallen so far? We were talking three seed, 53 00:02:35,319 --> 00:02:37,240 we were talking two seed, we were talking maybe even 54 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,439 a one seed not too long ago, maybe six weeks ago. 55 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,360 Now seven seed and may be worse if BYU loses 56 00:02:44,439 --> 00:02:46,680 the Texas Tech and loses in the Big twelve tournament. 57 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,960 Where do you stand with this hoops team? 58 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of like the current state of the 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,400 Utah winter when it rains, its tour is when it does, 60 00:02:55,479 --> 00:02:57,479 and it's nice and sunny, and we think we're getting 61 00:02:57,479 --> 00:02:58,759 a lay with a early screen, and then all of 62 00:02:58,759 --> 00:03:01,520 a sudden, see a little bit of that moisture. You 63 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,479 see a little bit of that trickle, some of those 64 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,319 snowflaer snowflayers maybe, and all of a sudden, you've got 65 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,439 a downpour on your hands. I mean you, a basketball 66 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,680 is going through a downpour at the moment. It's a spiral, 67 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,879 it's a tail spin. It's uh, you know, they've they've 68 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,680 lost uh four of their last five, and it it 69 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,360 doesn't feel very good I think for Kugar Nation right now, Like, yes, 70 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,960 A J. DeVonta is awesome. Rob Ryder's had his moments, 71 00:03:29,319 --> 00:03:32,000 but uh and I think it like because it's evens 72 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,879 starting to come alive a little bit during this streak, 73 00:03:34,199 --> 00:03:36,240 which is certainly a little bit of a silver lining 74 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,000 to see from a freshman. But uh, this this is 75 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,520 a team that is you want to talk about meeting 76 00:03:43,639 --> 00:03:46,960 expectations or playing in the best best basketball at the 77 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,360 right time, I'm not sure if this team is playing 78 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,319 against that basketball as the calendar turns into March, not 79 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:56,120 just results wise, but just because of the way they're playing. 80 00:03:56,599 --> 00:03:59,960 The defense is playing like the one hundred and ninety 81 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,000 something best team in the country during this run. Granted, 82 00:04:04,039 --> 00:04:07,360 bar tournament dot Com. The offense just slits a little bit. Now, 83 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,319 it's still better, it's still tough fifty offense, but it's 84 00:04:10,319 --> 00:04:12,599 slipped a little bit, and that's kind of natural with 85 00:04:12,759 --> 00:04:17,920 the absence of Virtie Honders. This is a team that, Yeah, 86 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,480 like if you if you had told me two months 87 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:24,600 ago that this would be anything less than a six 88 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,839 seed in the NCAA Tournament, I would have said, you're crazy. 89 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,399 But as of right now, I think the seven is 90 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,319 probably the ceiling, and I think, justine likely this team 91 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,079 could find itself in an eight nine game come that 92 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,759 opening week in of BINGCAA tournament. 93 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: Sean is, uh, do you feel like what can give 94 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,000 BYU fans hope? Is there what's kind of a silver 95 00:04:48,079 --> 00:04:51,439 lining in all this that is maybe helping this Cougar 96 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,680 fan base have hoped that BYU basketball can get into 97 00:04:54,759 --> 00:04:59,000 the NCAA Tournament and actually win at least one game 98 00:04:59,079 --> 00:05:01,560 and not be a one in with so much hype 99 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,360 entering the season. 100 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,639 Speaker 4: I mean, you mean hope other than the fact that 101 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:07,399 the end of the season is only a couple of 102 00:05:07,399 --> 00:05:07,879 weeks away. 103 00:05:08,959 --> 00:05:12,759 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm just saying, what's the what's what's sitting? Maybe 104 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,680 they want maybe they want to be put out of 105 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,439 their misery and just move on to springball. Maybe that's 106 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:18,720 for that. I don't think they do, though. 107 00:05:19,959 --> 00:05:22,879 Speaker 4: There's an old yellow reference in there somewhere, but I'm 108 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,480 not going to go there because that's probably a little 109 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,079 bit too much even for this program been. But no, 110 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:28,560 I mean, I think there are a couple of silver 111 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,480 linings on this, Like Dja Debonte is still as advertised, 112 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,519 and I've seen a lot of patterns as day day 113 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,439 online because of the state of the program. But he 114 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:40,759 has still been at least arguably the best player on 115 00:05:40,879 --> 00:05:42,560 the Big twelve, one of the best players in the 116 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:45,279 country so far so far, one of the best of 117 00:05:46,439 --> 00:05:51,319 the best freshman class in years, decades, twenty plus years. 118 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,519 I think at least he's he has still been as advertised. 119 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,800 There is still a lot, you know, I think this 120 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,680 fan base needs to really favor and share is what 121 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,879 ad the Boxer brings to this team, because come June, 122 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,639 he's going to be the first or the second big 123 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,839 in the NBA draft. And a a wise woman once 124 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,560 said that you're gonna miss me when I'm gone, and 125 00:06:13,639 --> 00:06:16,000 I think that's kind of the state of a J 126 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,480 right now. But I think there are a couple of 127 00:06:18,519 --> 00:06:22,000 other guys that has stepped up during the shoot. I 128 00:06:22,079 --> 00:06:26,160 think an Alexi Costage. Alexi Costache is a freshman. He's 129 00:06:26,199 --> 00:06:28,879 had his moments, I think, during the year, but those 130 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:31,879 moments were very human far between. During this run of 131 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,160 four losses in the last five games, I think it's 132 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:38,160 been He's now back to back to back to three 133 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,959 string games with double digit points. He's shooting the three 134 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,199 ball really well. He's the hype of kitchen shooter that 135 00:06:45,319 --> 00:06:48,319 plays really well with a guy like a J. And 136 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,560 if you're going to get superstars to pro both five 137 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,279 star talent to provo, I think you want guys like 138 00:06:54,439 --> 00:06:58,000 him to surround him, Guys who don't necessarily the amount 139 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,879 of ball a tone, but are really good just off 140 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,399 of that catch spot of three point shooters that sort 141 00:07:04,399 --> 00:07:06,160 of a thing, and I think like those into the 142 00:07:06,199 --> 00:07:10,120 guy that is there are guys that are looking to 143 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,680 earn themselves minutes and a spot on next year's loster 144 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,959 at YU and I think that lift probably starts with 145 00:07:17,079 --> 00:07:19,360 a Leski in a lot of ways, just in terms 146 00:07:19,399 --> 00:07:21,800 of what they can bring not only for this year's team, 147 00:07:22,199 --> 00:07:25,319 but for next year's teams. And again, I hate them 148 00:07:25,319 --> 00:07:27,199 moving on too much to acture because this is still 149 00:07:27,199 --> 00:07:30,279 a team that is going to the NAA Tournament. Despite 150 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:33,879 all of its folks, guys, BYU is not a program. 151 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,639 They're not a team that is flirting with danger of 152 00:07:37,839 --> 00:07:40,920 missing the NC DOUBLEA tournaments. You know, they still got 153 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:42,839 six plad one wins. They still got a couple of 154 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:45,680 wins over top twenty five teams that went over Clemson 155 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,279 right now, and the non conference is aging extremely well 156 00:07:49,839 --> 00:07:52,720 right now for b YU. I mean there is a 157 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,279 there are a lot of positive positives on this team's resume. 158 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,959 There's no reason to believe that they shouldn't be involved 159 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,519 in the NCUBLEA tournament. And once that ball of tips, 160 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,759 if anybody's good, we all know how to manage the 161 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,920 march worth So like, yes, there are some issues, Yes, 162 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,879 there are some things in me deb fakes, especially defensively, 163 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,800 but I think there a lot of them. Are some 164 00:08:13,959 --> 00:08:16,759 first world problems, and maybe some of those first world 165 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,600 problems can get fakes come March, or at the very 166 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,040 least you think or something out for next season and 167 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,319 you kind of live and learn and progress for another day. 168 00:08:26,399 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: By us issues. Let me give you a stab coaches 169 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,600 or players, main storylines that you've been keeping an eye on, 170 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:33,559 that you've been intrigued by. 171 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm loving the development of bear Bagmyer. I know 172 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,360 it's a little bit looking through to go to the quarterback, 173 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,879 but this is a kid that we just bring to 174 00:08:44,919 --> 00:08:48,120 talk to him the other day and just a little 175 00:08:48,159 --> 00:08:50,840 bit we've been able to watch him, very very very 176 00:08:50,879 --> 00:08:53,720 little bit. We've been able to watch him from where 177 00:08:53,759 --> 00:08:58,600 he's been around the around the weight room in the 178 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:04,120 off season, we see at some basketball games. We've talked 179 00:09:04,159 --> 00:09:06,840 to him now a couple of times in interviews. I 180 00:09:07,759 --> 00:09:11,440 am amazed that this kid is only a sophomore. The 181 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:16,039 sky really is the ceiling. I think for bark Bachmeier, 182 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,480 I think he's developing exceptionally well. He was one of 183 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,600 it's not the best freshman quarterbacks in all of college 184 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,200 football last year. I think PFF might have had him 185 00:09:25,279 --> 00:09:27,600 number one among freshman quarterbacks, number one or number two 186 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,519 last year among freshman quarterbacks. I think he needs to 187 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,159 take another step forward in order for BYU to truly 188 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,279 go where do they want to go? And there's really 189 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,919 only one place that they can go, coming in second 190 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,399 in the Big twelve a year ago. But I think 191 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,000 he's absolutely capable of taking that next step up. Like 192 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,600 he just he looks more polished, He looks like he's 193 00:09:49,639 --> 00:09:53,559 connecting very well with his receivers a little bit in springball. 194 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,759 He looks like he's ready to take that next step. 195 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,559 It seems like Aaron Rodgers is willing to kind of 196 00:09:59,639 --> 00:10:02,919 give him the next step in his quarterback development. I 197 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,720 really like what I'm seeing out of bear bog Buyer 198 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,440 early on. It's it's super early in springball. Springball, you know, 199 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,240 is worth the paper you write on it again at 200 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:15,320 the time. But I really love in the development that 201 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,320 I'm seeing out a bear bock Buyer on that in 202 00:10:17,399 --> 00:10:18,559 that practice facility right now? 203 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,279 Speaker 1: Do you have favorites to step up in that wide 204 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,879 receiver room right now? Have you have you looked at 205 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,679 your projected wide receiver depth chart and rotation yet? I 206 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,320 know it's early, but who are your early odds on 207 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,840 favorites to become bear Bachmeyer, favorites to uh to slean 208 00:10:34,919 --> 00:10:35,759 the pill to. 209 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody we've talked to in the program has talked 210 00:10:39,799 --> 00:10:43,000 about Jojo Phillips kind of the next step in his 211 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,279 development and his evolution is to maybe it sounds like 212 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,799 they maybe want him in a a maybe even a 213 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,200 wide receiver one type role with the Parker sinkin departure 214 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,320 now as well. So I'm keeping an eye on Jojo Phillips. 215 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,360 I think Codey Hagen has truly the top end burner 216 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,039 speed to fill that role. 217 00:11:04,519 --> 00:11:04,639 Speaker 5: Uh. 218 00:11:04,759 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 4: But I really like what I'm what I'm saying out 219 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,480 of some of the new uh and I won't I 220 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,960 won't say wide receivers necessarily, but some of the new 221 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,000 past catchers in general. We saw what Cars and Ryan 222 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,120 could do at the tight end spot. It sort of 223 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,720 hasta make make tight ends great again. At b YU, 224 00:11:19,799 --> 00:11:22,519 I think Carson absolutely did that, and I think Walker 225 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,120 Lions could be the next step in that for the 226 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,559 Cougars as well. Rogers Celiapanga has also shown some really 227 00:11:28,639 --> 00:11:31,919 nice things in his brief time coming back home to 228 00:11:32,039 --> 00:11:36,480 play for b YU uh and then uh Uh. Kyler 229 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,399 Casper the organ cancer I think has shown very well 230 00:11:40,639 --> 00:11:44,279 in limited time limited reps. He's still figuring figuring things out, 231 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,279 getting in all the culture of the playbook and that 232 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,799 kind of thing. But I think he's shown some really 233 00:11:48,919 --> 00:11:53,120 nice things early on. Uh that you you are kind 234 00:11:53,159 --> 00:11:55,960 of starting to see why b yu win and got 235 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,320 these guys. They didn't get a ton of transfers out 236 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,000 of the latest NCAA transfer portal. They were definitely folded 237 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,720 a little bit more on retention, but they you know, 238 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,480 they saw some needs. They went and were very targeted 239 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,559 with some of their needs. And I think you saw 240 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:14,799 why they targeted some of these guys to come in 241 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,559 and play right away and potentially not even play some 242 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,399 big minutes right away. 243 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: Final thing I got for you, Sean before I let 244 00:12:21,639 --> 00:12:23,440 you go, appreciate you hopping on for a little Cougar 245 00:12:23,519 --> 00:12:25,919 beat broant to you by Central Garage Utah, Central Garageutah 246 00:12:25,919 --> 00:12:30,679 dot com. How about them Lady Kougs and League Kamard 247 00:12:30,879 --> 00:12:34,159 year one guy. You look the men's team, you know, 248 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,639 maybe not meeting the expectation, not meeting quota, but I 249 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,399 feel like right now by women's is maybe meeting the quota. 250 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:46,080 They could possibly maybe hopefully fingers crossed, maybe they can 251 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:48,440 get into the NCAA tournament with a run in the 252 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,759 Big twelve tournament. Maybe they got to They gotta win 253 00:12:50,799 --> 00:12:54,279 out right now. The ball that they're playing. Man, there 254 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,960 are many analysts out there that are covering the Big 255 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,279 twelve tournament saying BYU basketball is an NBA tournament team 256 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:04,000 the way they're playing right now. Give us your feedback 257 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,879 on that. Are they in your opinion? And how far 258 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,440 do you think they get into Big twel tournament. They 259 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,600 got a big game coming up next with TCU, maybe 260 00:13:12,639 --> 00:13:13,879 the best team in the Big twelve. 261 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're playing the Bress basketball of the year right now, 262 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:24,559 which is pretty amazing because dating back to probably the 263 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,919 worst loss of the season at home to Cincinnati, they're 264 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,759 on a five game winning streak since then that It 265 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,639 was two wins over Utah, another win over another bubble 266 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,240 team in Colorado. They're one of sixteen teams right now 267 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,000 on the NCAA Women's Tournament bubble. According to ESPN dot 268 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:47,519 com Charlie cream He Charlie listed them in the first 269 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,200 or in the next four out. Excuse me, so just 270 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:53,519 outside of the first four out when it comes to 271 00:13:53,919 --> 00:13:58,639 the ESPN bracketology of the group that was rated ahead 272 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,960 of them, BYU had played they had y had played 273 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,519 them eight times and we're seven and one against that group. 274 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,240 They were seven and two against teams the other sixteen 275 00:14:10,279 --> 00:14:12,960 teams that were on the bubble that they've played against, 276 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:17,960 so they're they're really good against double bubble teams. They're 277 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:23,759 they're still technically winless in Quad one, which I think 278 00:14:23,879 --> 00:14:27,000 is their biggest knock against them. A top twenty five 279 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,279 win on whatever Texas Tech has an aged super well 280 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,720 or super favorably and even less favorably after a Texas 281 00:14:33,759 --> 00:14:36,240 Tech lost to a fighting test heels in Champias State 282 00:14:36,799 --> 00:14:40,360 in the Big twelve tournament, so that that's probably their 283 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,519 biggest knock against them. But you talk about a team 284 00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:46,279 that's playing as best basketball come March, that team checks 285 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,440 the boxes. You talk about a team that has legitimate 286 00:14:48,559 --> 00:14:51,759 star power, they definitely have that in Delaty Gift. And 287 00:14:51,879 --> 00:14:56,720 you talk about a team that that doesn't have a 288 00:14:57,559 --> 00:15:01,879 a through the back to bring back and breaking series 289 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:05,559 of losses. I think this team does have that. I 290 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,000 would expect them fully in the conversation this selection Sunday 291 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:12,720 to be in that NCAA tournament field. If they're not there, 292 00:15:12,759 --> 00:15:14,919 if they happen to not make it, you know they're 293 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,559 they're probably a play in tournament, a play in game 294 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,799 team at this point for the n C Double A 295 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,080 field and if they if they find themselves just off 296 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,000 of that side of the bubble, I think this is 297 00:15:26,039 --> 00:15:28,559 the top four team to the WB I t which 298 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,320 guarantees them home court advantage until those those semi finals 299 00:15:33,679 --> 00:15:38,399 in the number two tournament postseason tournament. And women's basketball, 300 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,240 which if you had told me that at the start 301 00:15:40,279 --> 00:15:42,320 of the year under a first year head coach and 302 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,240 the first time I coached in Lee Tamard, I think 303 00:15:46,919 --> 00:15:49,200 any by you said probably should have and would have 304 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:49,600 taken it. 305 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:52,399 Speaker 1: Sean, best way to support you, what you do, how 306 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,919 you do it, and then any articles you're going to 307 00:15:54,919 --> 00:15:56,840 be publishing here shortly that we should keep an eye 308 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,279 out for on kjo dot com. 309 00:15:59,399 --> 00:16:01,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, at Kissel dot com, Cansel dot com, 310 00:16:01,919 --> 00:16:03,960 slash Sports if you want to go, uh, book markin, 311 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,919 check us out, support us. 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Bro? 362 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:27,559 Speaker 5: All better than I deserve? 363 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: You? 364 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: Ben doing awesome, man, doing great, doing grand doing wonderful. 365 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,400 You know you look actually really good in your elevate 366 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,519 suit in your tempo shirts. Man, I know you love 367 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:38,079 those things. 368 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 5: I do. They're They're sweet. I've really enjoyed wearing those 369 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:52,400 once a week and yeah, it's quite quality in the craftsmanship, 370 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:55,960 and I've really enjoyed wearing them as part of my 371 00:18:56,759 --> 00:18:57,720 weekly routine. 372 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: Do you think you do? You think you can sling 373 00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:01,920 a pill? Pretty well? I know you got invited to 374 00:19:02,079 --> 00:19:05,680 the alumni game. Could you do you think you could 375 00:19:05,759 --> 00:19:09,559 play in your tempo shirt and not be restricted in 376 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:10,279 your throw motion? 377 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:19,079 Speaker 5: Oh? Absolutely, it's that good that that faverric is that well? 378 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,079 Like you see that mountain over there, I bet I 379 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,519 could throw a ball over that mountain. Man, if you 380 00:19:23,599 --> 00:19:24,680 look out the window right. 381 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,559 Speaker 1: Now, Hey, man, you got the invite. You got the 382 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,839 call up. Man, you're gonna play. You're gonna play in 383 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,599 the alumni game. How does it feel to get recruited 384 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:36,079 by Kilani and co? For the alumni game? 385 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:39,559 Speaker 5: Oh, it's great to be able to take my talents 386 00:19:39,599 --> 00:19:43,039 down to Provo in April. Third man, I it's it's 387 00:19:43,079 --> 00:19:46,559 so nice to finally get get the monkey off my 388 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,640 back and finally commit. You know, I've been weighing this 389 00:19:49,839 --> 00:19:56,000 for quite some time. So no, it'll be fun. I'm 390 00:19:56,039 --> 00:19:58,640 looking forward to it, and I couldn't make it last year, 391 00:20:00,519 --> 00:20:02,680 but I will say this, I'm gonna have to throw 392 00:20:02,759 --> 00:20:06,519 the pill like the next three weeks religiously. 393 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta get some get get some throws in, 394 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,960 do some range of motion. Don't overuse it. Be on 395 00:20:12,039 --> 00:20:15,160 a pitch count, obviously, because we don't want you. We 396 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,160 don't want you injured going into the game. Elevate your collagen. 397 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,119 Maybe start taking a little bit of creatine and make 398 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:21,880 sure you're stretching. 399 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 5: Yes, I'm going creating. I'm going Rocky one, two, three, four, 400 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:33,799 and five, and maybe repeat Rocky two. Because when Adrian 401 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,079 tells him when and the and the gong sounds and 402 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,480 he goes into his workout like that's one of the 403 00:20:40,599 --> 00:20:43,839 greater scenes at least in a sports movie in my estimation. 404 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,640 So yeah, I got a lot of motivation, Buddy, love 405 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,079 it man. 406 00:20:48,839 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: Well, uh, Camp Koalani's starting up now and we're seeing 407 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,720 reports come out, videos being published on social media. We're 408 00:20:56,759 --> 00:20:59,200 reading through all the articles we've been able to interview. 409 00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:01,960 Some of these guys would have been the key storylines 410 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,039 for you coming out of Camp Killaane this spring ball. 411 00:21:06,759 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 5: Well, I think what I'm going to be Well, obviously 412 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:17,039 all the transfers that we've had, whether that's both sides 413 00:21:17,079 --> 00:21:20,079 of the ball, and how quickly they can make an 414 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,240 impact along with the freshmen so basically the new faces, 415 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,640 and how quickly can they impact, How quickly can they 416 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,240 come in and learn the playbook on either the offensive 417 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,839 side or the defensive side, mesh with the team. Some 418 00:21:36,039 --> 00:21:40,880 of the leaderships that you know stayed on Evan Johnson's Tonavasa, 419 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,480 obviously Bear even though he's just a freshman, he's still 420 00:21:45,519 --> 00:21:50,559 a veteran. And and how these guys all mesh and 421 00:21:50,839 --> 00:21:57,759 commingle together with you know, a new defensive coordinator, and 422 00:21:59,759 --> 00:22:03,039 and how Bear progresses having a year under his belt 423 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,640 on the offensive side, and I think being able to 424 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,480 I think the want is to throw the ball a 425 00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:14,599 little bit more. But now we have, you know, kind 426 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,359 of an issue a receiver, which is the next point 427 00:22:17,519 --> 00:22:23,279 is the biggest I think question mark is who feels 428 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:29,519 the roles of Chase and Parker and how does that 429 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,160 receiver room lineup depth chart wise and rotation wise. And 430 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:40,200 there's there's a lot to uh to look at and 431 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:47,119 but but yeah, that's what screens for and sounds like 432 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,039 so far, so good. 433 00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:51,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, who are some of the new covers? Yeah, we 434 00:22:51,799 --> 00:22:53,480 Cameron and I were talking about the new covers were 435 00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:56,240 most intrigued by. Uh so, who are the guys you're 436 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,680 most intrigued by, And who do you think is going 437 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,400 to really maybe elevate and create a significant role for 438 00:23:02,519 --> 00:23:03,960 themselves this year and why. 439 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 5: We've talked about this before, But I think the two 440 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:18,039 Lehigh kids, both Devon Eka and Lesid Glasger, I think 441 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:21,519 they're due to make an impact on the offensive side 442 00:23:21,519 --> 00:23:28,279 of the ball because having talked to them, they've ingrained 443 00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:31,759 themselves into the college life, which is vastly different than 444 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,680 obviously going to Lehigh High School or any other high 445 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:41,160 school in America and so they're excited to be that there. 446 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,839 They they've talked about how much weight they've gained and 447 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,799 the strength in the spring program, the off season program, 448 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,319 the weights program, strength and conditioning at by U has 449 00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:59,519 really elevated their game. Their thing is going to be 450 00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:04,960 in between the ears. So I think athletically spring allows 451 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,759 them to, you know, get some girth on their bodies, 452 00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:12,480 especially Devon and so but I think they're really going 453 00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:16,160 to make an impact, at least on the offensive side 454 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,400 of the ball as a young eighteen nineteen year old 455 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:28,119 and so, uh, they're they're they're quite the talent and 456 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,680 they're going to be really good and and really bolster 457 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:39,680 at least, you know, Devon with having Lj's back, Moa 458 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,880 Rex is in there, Devon, I mean, I think they're 459 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,720 running back. Course. Was that used to be a concern 460 00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:52,279 is now going to be a strength going forward. It's 461 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,119 just now, okay, what have we got as a receiver. 462 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,839 Who's going to step up, who's going to raise their hand? 463 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,279 I got this just here here, hold my root beer 464 00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:02,759 and watch this. 465 00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 3: And so. 466 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 5: That's obviously the biggest question and probably concern going into 467 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,640 the spring and hopefully, you know, by the time end 468 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,240 of spring and end of this month, we'll have an 469 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:22,599 idea of a too deep receiver. Corps love that as 470 00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:23,920 j Yeah. 471 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: Look, there's plenty of opportunity. Man. If you're a wide 472 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:32,359 receiver with Chase graduating Parker on the outs, and there's 473 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,119 plenty and you have a quarterback that just threw for 474 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,960 three thousand yards and completed sixty four sixty five percent 475 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000 of his passes, I'm putting in work. If I'm a 476 00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:42,920 wide receiver, I'm like, hey, you want to hang out Beart, 477 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,480 what are you doing after practice? I'll run routes for you. 478 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,359 You know you want to get us some extra work 479 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,720 on Saturday, I'll run routes for you. You know. I'm 480 00:25:50,759 --> 00:25:53,880 putting in that work to be that guy for Bear 481 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,240 fighting tooth and nail. 482 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 5: Absolutely and I and I know that. I'm sure Bear's 483 00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:04,720 doing that. I'm sure Enich's doing that because he's fighting 484 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:08,880 for a backup spot. Trason's doing that as far as 485 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:14,119 the quarterback. So my assumption, in my estimation, because I 486 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:17,880 used to do this too, is Chad Lewis would come 487 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,319 to me and go, dude, I'm not Obviously I'm not 488 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,880 in the starting role. Because he was younger, he was 489 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,440 a freshman. But let's go throw after practice and Chad 490 00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:30,480 and I would just chunk it just every day after 491 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:32,640 practice because I wouldn't get in a lot of repose 492 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,119 the backup and so Wallas got the majority of the 493 00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:41,480 reps with the ones and so, and I'm sure those 494 00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:44,680 guys are doing the same thing because you know in 495 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:48,160 college and you got such a newness with the receivers 496 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,119 and quarterbacks. It's timing, man. And if you don't have 497 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,880 the timing down with you guys, because one guy's going 498 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,359 to run a fader out a little bit different than 499 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,599 the other, or speed and separation or if there's none, 500 00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:09,759 so different routes by different guys are gonna produce different results. 501 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,480 And then so the timing's gotta be money. But that's 502 00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:15,680 when you do. This is in March and April in May. 503 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,039 Speaker 1: So love that breakdown. Steve Klements here on your Utah 504 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,079 ESPN Radio network, former bo your quarterback. Last time we chatted, 505 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,720 we were discussing maybe the QB two battle Enick Watson 506 00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:31,160 versus Trayson Borget Trason is I think some was solidified 507 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,400 as that QB two, But what if you heard about 508 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:38,880 Enick Watson. Do you think you can push a tenured, experience, 509 00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:42,880 red shirt senior and Tracon Borgae at that QB two spot. 510 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,759 Speaker 5: Well, my understanding is he's he's more gifted athletically, like 511 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,319 with the ways down, like he could move, he's quite 512 00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:56,960 an athlete. Yeah, and he can spin it too, So 513 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:04,279 I don't know if Trason athletically probably falls a little 514 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:08,079 bit short behind Enoch and that, But then Trason has 515 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,599 the experience, right, He's actually played at the Division one 516 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,880 level in games Michigan State years and years ago, but 517 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,759 there's no substitute for experience where and then he has 518 00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:24,920 the backing I know of the team behind him. He's 519 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,839 sent out in the community. He's a really really good 520 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,519 kid out. I talked to him last fall camp for 521 00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:36,160 about five minutes from they were warming up right before practice. Guy, 522 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,240 he's a solid dude and I love the kid. But 523 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,680 so there's still going to be a battle because because 524 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,079 I think Enix athleticism and then be able to spin it. 525 00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:53,319 His just think he's no different than a freshman coming 526 00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:56,240 in or even a transfer in. How quick can you 527 00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:58,759 pick up the offense right and the reads and the 528 00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:01,519 coverages and what a Rod wants him to do and 529 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,799 the timing with the receivers, there's a lot. But he's 530 00:29:05,839 --> 00:29:10,039 been on campus now for what three months or so, 531 00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:16,279 so I think or we'll be fine in that position too, 532 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,359 with with capable backups. I have no doubt that they're 533 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,720 going to coach encup and get him up to speed 534 00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:28,160 on the playbook and you know, by the time spring's over, 535 00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:30,359 I think he'll be fine. I mean, you look at 536 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,480 Bear last year. He had zero clue whatsoever, and he 537 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,200 steps in and throws for a three thousand yards. Yeah, 538 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,960 some even said he was a better thrower and Tim 539 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,720 Tebow at some point. 540 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: That's insane. I can't believe. So we actually say that 541 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:53,279 a better throwing Tim Teba. How dare the person that 542 00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:57,480 the audacity of that man or woman. 543 00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:03,039 Speaker 5: Or that's right depends on the day, buddy. 544 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:10,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I feel you on that. So one of 545 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,559 the things I'm I'm very much intrigued by with this 546 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,880 this team, especially during you know, fall camp ETCS. You 547 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,279 know this the offense has more new faces than the defense, right, 548 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,759 like all the defense is pretty much back like for 549 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:28,720 the most part. You've got some some losses, but there 550 00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:30,240 there was a ton of guys behind them that had 551 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,559 tenure in talent and experience. Uh, there's a lot of 552 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,279 new faces Walker Lions, Roger Saliapaka, Kyler Kasper, new face right, 553 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,440 you mentioned legend Glasgar Davon Ekka. You do have l J. 554 00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:43,519 Martin's kind of sitting out right now. I mean he's 555 00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:45,960 doing drills and tough stuff, but he's not doing all 556 00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:49,160 twenty two and and you know, being a part of 557 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,440 like necessary team drills. That looks like just because he's 558 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,400 still recovering from surgery, But like, how how much of 559 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,559 a dynamic is that? It seems like it's a competitive 560 00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:03,079 disadvantag versus a projected in my mind, a top twenty 561 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,440 five defense that returns. I mean, they were a top 562 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,440 twenty five defense the last two years and they don't 563 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,680 lose much and it's the same scheme and most of 564 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,039 the same coaches. I feel like this defense is a 565 00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:14,599 top twenty five defense and the offense got to go 566 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,400 against them every single day with a ton of new bodies, 567 00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:21,400 including the new offensive alignment. How difficult is that to 568 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,880 manage as an offensive coordinator with your install especially if 569 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,119 you're struggling, you know, getting guys integrated into the playbook 570 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,000 and knowing where their alignment is and knowing how to 571 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,599 execute that scheme. 572 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,599 Speaker 5: Well, I think the better to the defense, the better 573 00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:45,160 the show during a practice for an offense. And conversely, 574 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,799 obviously when I say offense, defense, defense, offense, I'm talking 575 00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:52,279 about both sides. That on one side, if you can 576 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,319 show you know, BYU does their thing and we're going 577 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,000 up against a top twenty five defensey day in practice, 578 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,559 that's what we want. That's what a Rod wants, that's 579 00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:07,119 what Claney wants, because we don't we want to face 580 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,519 We're not trying to go beat, you know, and practice 581 00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:14,440 against a bunch of old dominions. Right it's the Texas 582 00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:17,519 texts of the world. That's who we're looking at, you know, 583 00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:20,640 and that's who we're I think we're going to be 584 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:26,599 one and two probably pre season Big twelve right there 585 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,880 again with those guys. So that's that's the bar that 586 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,200 we're going after. And so if we can we can 587 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,319 see that bar in practice every day and go against 588 00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:43,720 something like we're going to see h throughout the year 589 00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:47,119 on the highest level, which would be a Texas Tech 590 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,480 and then you make the playoffs and you you know, 591 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:55,480 you invite all the SEC teams into that category. That's 592 00:32:55,759 --> 00:32:57,960 kind of project. That's where we're at right now with 593 00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:02,119 the last three years or expectations, they're higher. So yeah, 594 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,200 we can't have a drop off from Monday through Thursday. 595 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,640 So let's put our best guys out there. We run 596 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,480 our scheme against your scheme, and let's get after it 597 00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:16,359 because it's only going to make us better towards the 598 00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:20,680 end of the year. And playing obviously the team up 599 00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:25,039 north there in the middle, that's always going to be 600 00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:28,039 tough no matter what, because it's it's our rivals, right, 601 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,440 So those are the teams that we you want to 602 00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:35,880 heart kind of not emulate, but kind of emulate during 603 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,720 practice because it just makes the offense better. And if 604 00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:43,440 the offense performs at a high level in practice, it's 605 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:46,400 only making the defense better. I mean, that's that's the 606 00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:52,640 game of sports. So it's it's Saturdays are for fun 607 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,000 and kind of enjoying it. You work and grind Monday 608 00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:56,640 through Thursday. 609 00:33:56,799 --> 00:34:00,319 Speaker 1: So got to put in the work. Got put in 610 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,240 that lonely work as well in order to build chemistry. 611 00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:06,000 Hopefully this offensive unit is going to be doing that. 612 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,480 Steve kleamis form or BYU great Quarterback talking some BYU Football. 613 00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:11,679 Couple last things before we let you go. This is 614 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,239 a keeping up with the Cougar segment brought to you 615 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,119 by Odeon Men's where Odion Menswear dot com. Remember to 616 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,480 use the Crital fifteen coupon code for all your missionary 617 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,199 retire oh, your men's attire and your church attire. Steve, 618 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,360 one of the only question mark that I had, I 619 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,880 really have about this team, apart from you know, the 620 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,159 dynamic of integration and cohesion on the offensive side. With 621 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,679 so many new faces, you have replaced the the defensive 622 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:40,719 secondary coaches right, and traditionally historically BYU secondary hasn't been 623 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,039 the best. Let's be honest. In the Whag days, I mean, 624 00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:46,840 I don't know what the talent was like back in 625 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,760 your day, year in a year out in the depth, 626 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,159 there was always kind of like this question, but do 627 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,960 we have the guys to cover on the back end 628 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,679 the Mountain West Conference days, you know, there was when 629 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,800 I came in. You know, everyone was really concerned about 630 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,719 the secondary and uh, and then we had to prove 631 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,559 ourselves right and we but we didn't have a ton 632 00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:08,239 of depth there. Independence was was tough right, and uh, 633 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,400 I think the Big twelve has been tough. But you 634 00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:14,960 lose j Hill, you lose Gennaro, you lose Gavin Faller. Uh. 635 00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:18,039 You you bring in Toamorio Warren, you bring in Lewis Walker, 636 00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:21,159 you bring in uh, you elevate Wes Johnson, which I 637 00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:23,559 thought it was a really smart thing to do, and 638 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:26,400 then you bring in Dandy Sorenson. Do you feel like, 639 00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:29,480 what what makes you believe that there's not going to 640 00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:33,119 be any drop off even though like your entire coaching 641 00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:35,280 staff on the back end was replaced. I know everyone 642 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,880 comes back, right, but give me, give me some uh 643 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,960 insight from your perspective on why there won't be a 644 00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:43,320 drop off in that secondary. 645 00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 5: Well, I think two names and not not to disrespect 646 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,800 k Pap, but Kalanie Sataki and Gary Anderson. Well, those 647 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:01,039 guys in their experience and knowing that they and traditionally 648 00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:06,239 what you want to do is develop a defense or 649 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,960 an offense inside out, which means you've got to have 650 00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:14,000 dudes up front. You need four guys at least in 651 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:17,480 our defense that can get to the quarterback without bringing 652 00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:21,400 a fifth. Even if you bring a fifth or sixth. 653 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,199 The scheme is such that the back end. Obviously you 654 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,760 have to mesh the back in with the front end. 655 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:34,119 So I think why we're going to be we're fine 656 00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,719 on the back end is because on the front end 657 00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:40,599 we're so solid and our front seven is going to 658 00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:44,079 be I think one of the best at least in 659 00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:47,679 the in the Big twelve. And so yeah, we're not 660 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,639 paying guys five million dollars like Texas Tech is, but 661 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,639 schematically we can play around with coverages as long as 662 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,800 our guys can get to the quarterback not needing a blitz. Now, 663 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,679 if we have to start blitzing, then we got to 664 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,119 lock up and then we go, oh crap. Now this 665 00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:09,559 it really does become a game of one on ones, 666 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,639 which a lot of people say anyway. But and you know, 667 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,920 in this defense, Kolani has always wanted to be a 668 00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:21,559 manna man. That's what he likes. He likes a man 669 00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:24,599 a man defense, have four to five guys be able 670 00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:28,079 to get to the quarterback without bringing too many more. 671 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,800 Morgan's is not going to do anything different up North, 672 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,639 So they're very similar defenses. Gary Anderson, you know, has 673 00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:40,159 been doing this a long time and same philosophy. So 674 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,800 I think with having such a good front end. It 675 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:50,519 allows you to play maybe some games at least until 676 00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:53,679 we're up to speed. Obviously, safety is one we got 677 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:59,280 to replace Tanner with. But like schematically, an experience on 678 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,000 the coaching staf, even with KBO, Dude, I'm we're fine, 679 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,960 Like we're I'm not worried about it, just because schematically 680 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,719 in the experience that we have on the staff, regardless 681 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:17,039 of you know, the dB coaches, Orn and even Sorens 682 00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:19,559 and those guys, the knowledge that they're going to bring, 683 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,199 and I'm not worried about the knowledge either. We'll be fun, dude. 684 00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:26,480 I'm telling you this is this is gonna be a 685 00:38:26,559 --> 00:38:30,280 fun season. I'm I'm really looking forward to it to 686 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,519 just what we have coming back transfer freshman. It's a 687 00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:37,280 It's a great day to be a coup for sure. 688 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,119 Speaker 1: So I got one last thing for you. I chatted 689 00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:45,119 with k Pop last week. We chatted with Kilani during 690 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:49,840 the signing period, signing day. You know, we've seen this transition, 691 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,000 I would say in the Kilani era. I think recently, 692 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,880 I want to say it like in twenty twenty three, 693 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,519 we started really hear a lot more humble, hungry, humble, hungry, humble, hungry, 694 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:03,559 and I think my opinion from me from my perch right, 695 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,760 we've seen a little pride cycle right twenty sixteen that 696 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,480 year one of the Clonie era, Like they had a 697 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,199 great team. They were nine and four, but they were 698 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,440 eight points away from being essentially a top ten team, 699 00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:18,079 Like they were on knocking on the door in a 700 00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:20,440 lot of these high profile games and they just fell short. 701 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,079 So there was a ton of optimism going into twenty seventeen, 702 00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:26,960 like super high expectations because what they had done the 703 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,960 year before, and it was a precipitous drop. Little pride 704 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,239 cycle twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, after kind of going 705 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,239 through the humbling era of seventeen eighteen nineteen and a 706 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,760 lot of losses, a lot of average seasons, we had 707 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,760 eleven and one and then a ten to three season 708 00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:46,960 top twenty five years. We had a ton of dudes 709 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,960 coming back in twenty twenty two. If you look at 710 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,519 that roster, we had a ton of NFL talent there 711 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,719 at Blake Freelinn, Jaren Hall, Chris Brooks I think was 712 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,920 on that roster. You go down that list and by 713 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,599 you ended up being an eight win team. They had 714 00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:03,360 to get their eighth win in the bowl game. It 715 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,280 was it was a drop off right in twenty twenty two. 716 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,639 It was a little pride cycle. And then what my 717 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,880 concern is is this, We're we're I'm excited about this team. 718 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,599 There's a ton of talent and you got the coaching 719 00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:18,360 staff there. You're excited, Cameron's excited, We're all excited. Like, 720 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,880 is there a few is there a possibility we could 721 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,239 have another pride cycle drop off? And what leads you 722 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,039 to believe that we are truly going to stay humble, 723 00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:28,079 stay hungry, and continue to like own that culture. 724 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,519 Speaker 5: No, because I think it's just it's now it's a 725 00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:34,880 plug and play with these guys, even with the transfer 726 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,960 which has changed since you know, even a couple of 727 00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:41,000 years ago. So you've got new guys in a program. 728 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:46,119 But the guys that are coming over there transferring that 729 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,679 aren't necessarily looking to go to BYU because of the 730 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,920 school or maybe the religion. It's to play football for 731 00:40:56,079 --> 00:41:01,039 a culture that Klania is now cemented at by U 732 00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:07,320 and becoming really level Edwards esque in his approach, and 733 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,599 guys want to go play for the guy I mean, 734 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,039 the humble, hungry I mean that's that's him. So he's 735 00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:20,280 never satisfied, but he's always going to to be have 736 00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:22,639 humility in his life because that's what he's been taught 737 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,559 since he was a young man by his dad. And 738 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,599 so that where the that's where the culture kind of 739 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,159 comes in and kind of fuses and glues everything together 740 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,840 where we might be missing a spot here, depth here, whatever. 741 00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:47,719 That's where I think a really good culture can overcome 742 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:55,239 some maybe deficiencies even in schematics or athletically or personnel, 743 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:02,360 injuries whatever. Now you get the injury bug and you 744 00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:04,719 may not have a way out. Even the culture may 745 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,880 not save you. It depends on when the injuries come 746 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:11,320 and who they come to and how frequent they are. Right, 747 00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:19,159 But that aside, I really do think the expectations are there. 748 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,519 The kids know it. It's not about yeah, we're not 749 00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:24,760 playing in the Mountain West anymore, We're not playing in 750 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,480 the Whack anymore. It's this is big twelve and big 751 00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:31,800 boy football. And everybody that comes here understands that now. 752 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,320 And I think that's why they want to come here, 753 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,480 because it's not just the culture, but like they're playing 754 00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:42,880 some dudes week in and week out, and they're not afraid. 755 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,119 They're not scared, and that's where the hungry part comes. 756 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,400 I think with Klonne's philosophy, it's I mean, we're not 757 00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:53,960 scared of anyone. I mean this is this is the 758 00:42:54,519 --> 00:43:02,079 current trajectory of BAYU football, which is going up. We're 759 00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:07,159 not plateauing, We're not satisfied. But at the same time 760 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,920 we have to be humble and understand where to be 761 00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:17,079 grateful and thankful for having a program like this and 762 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,480 being able to play one of the greatest sports on 763 00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:22,000 the face of the earth. 764 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 1: So the greatest sport on the faces of the Cameron's 765 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,840 got a question for you points there. 766 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 6: I agree with everything you said. It's a unique culture 767 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,000 now with college football where these players in essence off 768 00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:34,960 in every year to play, and I think there's an 769 00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:37,679 ownership and commitment level that comes with that. And just 770 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,159 adding on one thing, I like our leadership on this 771 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,159 team coming back in critical positions. I look at that 772 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,159 where you keep humble and hungry is really starts with 773 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,679 the team. Colony has done everything. Our coaching staffs there 774 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,599 who are the leaders on this team, and Bear's really 775 00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:54,000 shown that as I've heard in spring ball in this offseason, 776 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,440 you've got a quarterback, the guy out there leading is vital. 777 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,119 And then you've got LJ. You've got Bruce Mitchell, the 778 00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,960 front line, you've got ton of and all the defense 779 00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:05,320 coming back. You've got this court leadership that knows what 780 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,599 it's like to win. And I don't think they're going 781 00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:09,199 to see I know, I don't think they're going to 782 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,679 allow a letdown forsaking injuries. Like you said, injuries are 783 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,800 the one thing I'm afraid of the most with this team, 784 00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:19,239 especially bear positions, which is always the case. But I 785 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,960 like our leadership and their ability to lead us, so 786 00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:23,280 we don't run into that this year. 787 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,679 Speaker 5: But yeah, and if you if you think about it, Cambell, 788 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,760 you just said, it's the leadership almost right down the 789 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,760 middle of the field, right, LJ, running back, quarterback, center, 790 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:45,719 uh Ton of Asa what or whatever. Isaiah Isaiah would 791 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:52,159 probably be more on the outside, but then you got uhalas. 792 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: Name follow out and Moody. 793 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,679 Speaker 5: So so till to your point, that's a lot of 794 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,320 the middle set or who you do said, right down 795 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,840 the middle of the lineup offensively, defensively, right key positions, 796 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,719 and so yeah, I think you're right. Leadership and those 797 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,320 key positions bear having one more year, and I think 798 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,880 really even tracing being in a backup, I mean that 799 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,119 experience is that you know, way back in the day 800 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,960 where I, even though I wasn't a starter, there's no 801 00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:28,679 reason why I could be a leader even though I'm 802 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,280 not out there playing. But I'm around the guys just 803 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,360 as much as you know, Johnny Laws, and so yeah, 804 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,039 it doesn't matter if you're starting or not. I think 805 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:44,519 beyond just leadership in certain spots as starters, but you 806 00:45:44,639 --> 00:45:48,679 also have a capability as backups and guys that are 807 00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:53,280 not maybe playing every down to be leaders as well. 808 00:45:53,559 --> 00:45:55,800 And I think you're seeing a little bit of that 809 00:45:56,039 --> 00:46:00,199 too because of the culture that Kilaney has instilled, the 810 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:05,079 humble and hungry at the same time, but not necessarily 811 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,440 just because you're a starter. Anybody can be a leader 812 00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:10,239 at any given time or day or whatever. 813 00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:14,639 Speaker 1: So no, I agree Steve Klemis, ladies and gentlemen, former 814 00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:16,679 b Way great get to be one of the quarterbacks 815 00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:19,800 of the alumni game, slinging the pill, scoring touchdowns and 816 00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:22,880 leaving his glory days once again. Steve we Slewt, you 817 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,079 appreciate you man. Thanks for I'm still open. 818 00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 6: Nobody's recruited me yet so. 819 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,079 Speaker 1: The camera was a great tight end and running back 820 00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:31,840 in high school fantastic. 821 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 6: Didn't you play some quarterback to a state championship game? 822 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,079 We had two quarterbacks go down. I lined up under 823 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,199 then we got a guy back. 824 00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: Here round the option. We run the state option, we 825 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,280 ran the speed option. 826 00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 5: I'll be your agent. 827 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 1: See what type of NILD so you guys can get 828 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,559 done before the the the alumni game. Let's go Steve 829 00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:54,719 Clemis man, appreciate, I love you man, Thanks for hopping on. 830 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,239 We'll catch you do. 831 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,800 Speaker 5: Good week, all right. 832 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,559 Speaker 1: Man, They go to Steve Clements. It was brought to 833 00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:02,000 you by Odion Men's where Dyo menswear dot com. 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Shout out to Steve Clements obviously Big COUGARO 845 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,039 to all of our guests. We had Sean Walker and 846 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,079 got into a number of sound bites, etc. We appreciate 847 00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:44,199 everyone tuning in and chiming in Big Cougar Road to 848 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,360 the architect of the show, Ronald the free Man Weaver 849 00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:48,519 as well as Brett always bringing the hammer. We had 850 00:47:48,639 --> 00:47:51,679 Vic Kram on the data aggregation and newsletter and also 851 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,159 Big Coogaroar to Casey Lundquish and Laane Outo support our sponsors. Guys, 852 00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:58,360 we can't do our show without our sponsors, so please 853 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,480 always give them an opportunity to earn your business and 854 00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:03,360 then download the podcast as well. Whenever you get a 855 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,360 minute and I give us a rating, give us review 856 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,639 any final thoughts see Genser thirty three the General before 857 00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:12,719 we see farewell, say adieu to Cougar Nation on a Friday. 858 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 6: Oh, it's a great day to be a Cougar ben. 859 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,920 We're trending in the right direction in this team with 860 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,360 the leadership coming back and the key positions, having the 861 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,960 full spring going in, the young guys stepping up. Man, 862 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:22,840 I like where we're at. 863 00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, a lot of optimism, like swirling down there 864 00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:28,960 in Provo. They got a lot of pep in their 865 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,119 step in Provo. Right Now, we're a football school. This 866 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,400 is the year. I think we all can agree. Now 867 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,360 we're a football school. 868 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,639 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, and the expectations are there. I love 869 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,920 the Klanie saying humble and hungry. But I just like 870 00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:45,360 what we've built, the core we've had, and to build 871 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,719 on it and take this next level into next year, 872 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,400 just the next step. Well let's go here, Yet we 873 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:51,880 have to wait? 874 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,320 Speaker 1: Can we just get away? It's it's uh. You got 875 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,360 to go through the ups and downs of the year, 876 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,440 the springball, the development, the strength and conditioning, all that 877 00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:03,159 stuff before you get into fall camp. But I would 878 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:03,800 like to see