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dub a dominating victory at home. It's awesome to have
the Cougar Cagers back at the Marriott Center, and they
showed well, they showed fantastic. We're gonna break that down.
What do we know about this BAYU men's basketball team?
What's the rotation going to be as we get into
conference play? BYU definitely went through a bit of a
refining fire, learning who they are, what they stand for,
what their identity is going to be into conference play.
So I do think they are built to win in
conference play, but they did suffer a few setbacks. They
suffered some injuries, right, and so what will the rotation
look like?
Speaker 5: What do we trust?
Speaker 4: Who do we trust to lead BYU into Big twelve
basketball play, the G League with university logos. Who has
been dominant versus the other power conferences thus far this season?
You look at the win loss record all the Big
twelve teams facing the SEC, Big Ten, ACC you know,
any of these conferences, and it has been very impressive
to see what the Big twelve has has done, what
they've been able to accomplish in the non conference scheduling.
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this beautiful Monday, December fifteenth edition of Cougar Sports here
live from our Banterwell studio. So let's welcome in Ronald
the three man weaver behind the glass.
Speaker 5: Ronnie, how you living.
Speaker 6: I'm living good.
Speaker 7: Happy Monday, guys, December fifteenth. It was a glorious victory
ben the first time BYU has the clips one hundred
this season, so everybody was doing a little bit and
we saw the best part about it the bench production.
Thank you Alexi coaches for not making me sound like
a liar on the airways.
Speaker 6: I appreciate you taking care of business.
Speaker 5: Now, doubt about it.
Speaker 4: Hey, we needed to find some scoring off the bench,
some shooters off the bench. We have playmakers, we have
distributors of that basketball.
Speaker 5: Someone's got to hit a shot, for the love of all.
Speaker 4: That's only Alexi was able to do that, and I
hope he continues down that path as well.
Speaker 5: Filled the big shoes of Dawson the bucket.
Speaker 4: Getter Baker as he sustained at HCl injury, and I
think it was both.
Speaker 5: It was a devastating instory. She's like he's a good
spirits though on the bench there behind.
Speaker 4: The Cooper bench during this past game where SUC riverside
Ull well, if we hope the best for his recovery,
but it actually got to step up, show up, show out.
Let's also welcome into the show, Hammer time show. We
got Brent always bringing the hammer, Brett Hammer, how are you, buddy.
Speaker 5: I'm good. I'd like everyone to know that I'm not
walking back my take.
Speaker 8: I conspiracy theorized on this show, and then I went
late and put it went later and put a video
out that there was just the timing could have been
right for Kyle Whittingham to maybe be interested in the
Michigan job. And while I know he's not the number
one on call, shee and I realized that Jedfish is
a better choice because he has the connection to Michigan
and Kenny Dillingham. We've heard whispers that there may be
a signing, but we haven't seen anything official. My guy
Liam Blutman over at Barstool says, for what it's worth,
having on very good authority, that Whittingham does have a
lot of interest in the Michigan job. I don't know
that it will happen, but I do think even if
you're a Utah guy and you're like, there's no way
he would never leave U time to go coach somewhere else.
He's still I think probably one of the best candidates
for the job, just looking at his body of work,
looking who else is left out there. I mean, if
you're really sitting here and you're saying, as Michigan, we're
waiting to see if Alabama gets blown out in a
playoff game, to see if Kaylen debor will come to us,
that tells me that he's probably not a super likely option.
I think, especially just given the history of Kyle Whittingham
across our great sport, he is.
Speaker 5: One of the best candidates.
Speaker 8: Even if Kenny Dillingham and Jedfish are both fully available,
Kyle Whittingham should get a call from the University of Michigan, especially.
Speaker 5: Because Dave Portland loves the state of Utah. Michigan alump,
So we'll see. I will say this much.
Speaker 4: Look, you see in certain certain situations in corporate America
or in you know, you're talking two hundred million dollar businesses,
hundred fifty million dollar businesses. You know, whenever you have
a situation a PR debacle, they typically like to go
the opposite direction of where they were. Like, even when
you don't have a PR debacle, if you have certain
equity stakeholders, donors in corporate sponsors that want you to
go a certain direction because the former leadership was a
certain way, then you go that way because that's what
the equity stakeholders is with the donors want. Like I'll
give you an example BYU under Bronco, Menenhall was pretty
gods staying good a football. Obviously, he got a P
five job at the Undersity of Virginia, got a huge
pay raise after being at BA for ten years. Really,
I mean, just like Kilani would have got a huge
pay raise at Penn State. Kilani more so than than
than Bronco got a massive pay raise. But still there's
equivalency there because look at what Kilani did over ten
year period. Look at it what he did from twenty
twenty to twenty twenty five. Really nice work, right. But
Bronco was a little bit of an introvert. I always say,
you know that he was sometimes abrasive with the fans,
sometimes abrasive with you know, the corporate sponsor. He wasn't
a glad hander kissing babies and stuff like that. He
was linear organizational and culture and he wasn't over lea
dynamic with the former players, even the administration the upper campus.
Speaker 5: He wasn't a uniter like Kolana is. And and because of.
Speaker 4: That, you know, people got like the mission President Vibe,
they got the Bishop Vibe, they got to Stay President Vibe,
and and they they just didn't connect with him. So
they wanted something completely opposite of that, and they got Kilani.
And now Kilani said and has done similar things to Bronco.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, like from a.
Speaker 4: Messaging standpoint, like like it's very very similar. And I've
marked those things over the years of like uh discipleship,
Like Bronco was like raaked over the colls for like
breaking out the scriptures and citing scriptures at press conferences.
Kilani is very christ centered discipleship. You know who started
the the uh the firesides of discipleship in two.
Speaker 5: Thousand and five.
Speaker 4: Bronco we'd go, we'd sing the Armies of Heliman and
we'd uh we bear testimony about discipleship, all.
Speaker 5: Those things, but it wasn't received like it is now.
Does that make sense? Yeah, So there.
Speaker 4: Was a reason why they went more extroverted, more dynamic,
even though Colodie had no head coaching experience, right, so
that's what they brought in and a level guy too.
Bronco was not a level guy. Didn't maybe cater to
the lavel guys and the ego. And look, they built
the they built the place, right, the blood, sweat and tears. Okay,
Like there's definitely like you gotta you gotta glad hand,
you gotta kiss babies, you gotta embrace those guys. There's
no doubt. He just wasn't that type. So and that's
just a BYU example. But I could see going back
to the Michigan kle Whittingham's discussion, them going the Board
of Trustees as they evaluate were manual, They're like, we've
had too many scams.
Speaker 8: I believe there's an investigation also department to say what
is going on?
Speaker 5: Why do all of our coaches end up making poor decisions?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, Hardball I think is I think
is a great man. I think he took advantage of
a rule that was kind of sort of in place,
but you don't necessarily held the cantible for it, but
he kind of was held a cautible for it. But
they still won, you know what I mean, Like he
kind of took advantage of Look Kyle Whittingham was also
sign stealing per per Lincoln Riley USC He's like sign steeler,
Morgan Scalli and Kyle. There's sign stealing. They do it
all the time, you know. So, I mean it depends
on how.
Speaker 5: You view different. That's a completely different point what everyone
else is doing. Mission.
Speaker 4: It's a different scandal. But like there there's enough pr
issues that you're like, well, who's the clean cut sure,
like solid culture builder that can can at least help
us transition. James Franklin was that for the paternal era
and the Sandusky issues, right, So like James Franklin, good human,
good man, great recruit, you know, couldn't win the top
ten games, and so they fired him.
Speaker 8: He got to Col tomble Pla, even though he saved
them so much, Like because again that's my hometown. State
College is my hometown, and I can tell you the
vibe around there post Paterno and Sadasky and all that stuff.
James Franklin does not get enough credit for what he
did to turn that place around, and they kind of
just kicked him out the door. And it's a shame
because he should get a lot more credit and love
from the University and he didn't.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, and that's why he said VA Tech and
he took their entire recruiting class with him.
Speaker 5: Good for him, Good yeah, good for in Dame round
of applause. I could see the.
Speaker 4: Board of Trustees making some sort of an executive decision
where it's like, yeah, we're were highly interested in Kylewittingham,
who's sixty four to sixty five years old. Like, but
I don't know, man, I just think, Michigan, you're once again,
who are your equity stakeholders?
Speaker 5: Who? Who are your donors, who are your corporate sponsorships? Who?
Speaker 4: If you're gonna acquire a lot of NIL support, you
need to have someone that they really can get behind.
Is Kyle Whittingham that guy? I mean, he ended up
in the top fifteen this year college football Playoff. He's
consistently been a top twenty five head coach in college football.
If you support him with nil, if you support him
with with resources, maybe he can do what he couldn't
do at Utah is consistently win championships, right, but he
was right there to win him. He had some great
seasons up at the U, so it could happen. I
probably wouldn't bet on it. Have we checked Kyle she.
Speaker 8: Reach, So, yeah, he's like four or five down. He's
not there. It's Jetfish and Kenny Dillingham and Kiln dea boor.
Speaker 5: But I also the.
Speaker 4: Best thing to do is for some they have to
get a dynamic figurehead that people want to throw money at.
And then you bring in you bring in kyleib your
assistant head coach in DC, and you throw a ton
of money at him to bring him.
Speaker 8: You overpay him for that job. Yeah, and look, he's
not asked to do. You don't need him there for
ten years. You only have to overpay him for, like,
let's be honest, three years probably. And then once you're
up and running and you've put this whole thing, this
whole Sharon warware you think behind you, Kyle can ride
off into the sunset with his whatever deal he has
for Michigan.
Speaker 4: My question is, does Kyle have to be a head
coach or is you okay be an assistant head coach
defensive coordinator in the twilight of his career?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 8: I mean, doesn't that kind of feel like an ego
personality thing? And that's not a shot at Kyle, Like
I think any high performing individual like that, it's really
hard for them to all of a sudden say I'm
now gonna play second fiddle, especially in the Ken Kenny
Dillingham situation, to a guy that's what like thirty years
younger than him. So, I don't know, I think that's
I think that would be a tough card to play.
But you know what, maybe Kyle would surprise us and say, look,
I just want to do ball. However I have to
coach ball, I'll do it. Realize he doesn't have to coach.
His agreement as a special assistant to the Athletic Director,
it's a two year term three point four to five
million annually. If he just wants to be a special
assistant at Utah for the AD and help out on
the board of Utah Brands LLC and be there as
a LASI. But obviously if he's willing to go and
interview for defensive coordinating jobs, head coaching jobs right now
and willing to continue to coach, he feels slighted.
Speaker 5: He feels like he's got gas in the take. He
feels he got pushed out. That depends on what rumors
you believe, right Like.
Speaker 4: If he's going to do that because he's if he
had no juice left and he just wanted to write
it out and continue to ski and spend time with
his grandkids. I mean, you're still making three point four
to five million a year. That's more than any G
six head coach annually. Yeah, and that's higher than being
probably a d C or a assistant head coach at
any one of these powerful institutions, because the highest paid
coordinators in college footbaar are sitting probably at that two
point five million to maybe maybe three million a year. Okay,
So that's what you're dealing with. So anyway, I think
it's an interesting study. I'm intrigued to see what happens
with Kyle Whittingham. Let's get in some college basketball talk.
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you got a nice victory. The number ten Cougars rolled
past UC Riverside one hundred to fifty three. Aj To
Bonza recorded a triple double with twenty six points, eight rebounds,
seven assists, Almost I nearly recorded a triple double with
eight rebound, seven assists and in five steals.
Speaker 5: Looked very good. He balled out.
Speaker 4: He just continues to get better as the season goes on.
De Bonsa led the Cougars with twenty six points on
eleven seventeen shooting. The freshman is obviously in a competition,
and Ronald and I have discussed this. Brett, You've been
a part of these conversations as well, Darren Peterson versus
agent de bons and Darren Peterson still suffering through like
some soft tissue, hamstring issues, hamstring swordness, tightness. So you're
seeing AJ begin to elevate early on. I think in
the season Darren Peterson was the guy because he's just
scored at such a high rate, so effective. But Ronald
brought this up early in the season or right before
the season. It's like, hey, who's gonna be the number
one O one pick? And he said, look, if if
Darren can stay healthy, yeah, he's gonna be right there.
If he can't stay healthy, he may drop. And it
looks like Darren Peterson is is struggling to stay healthy.
Speaker 5: Roddy with his hamstring.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I brought that up because you're when a guy is
first starting off the season, been in these exhibition games,
right with Titaness going out early, I'm like, that's interesting, okay,
and then it started to become a problem as they
play at the formidable non conference schedule started to ramp up.
Speaker 6: He sat out right.
Speaker 7: I think I can't remember if it was that Yukon
game or Florida game, whatever one. He sat out and
didn't plan and I said, that's interesting, and then started
coming out early, sat again, and now Bill self is
discussing on T and T actual possibilities of shutting him
down for a legitimate hamstring injury. Look, when you're a
one and done guy, this is not football where you
still get drafted and it's other guys you can code
depend on. This is basketball. You build your entire team
and organization around. Darren Peterson is being the face of
a team in the NBA. He doesn't play, He drops
that moves a J and Cam boozer up.
Speaker 6: That's why what is it?
Speaker 7: Myyron metcalf And you're starting to see Javoni elevate AJ
and camp because Darren's not playing in My question has
been his conference players, legit two and a half weeks away. Now,
is he gonna be ready in six weeks to play
against BYU?
Speaker 10: Like?
Speaker 6: Is that gonna be the game?
Speaker 11: Like?
Speaker 6: We would be shortened.
Speaker 7: And I say we because we even as media members
as fans of the game too. If Darren and AJ
didn't go at it in fog allen Field, I was like,
I'm concerned one about the man's health to be at
a play, and then second, he's not going to be
able to elevate his draft stock. He'll stick, I think
will be a top three pick. Maybe he falls the
top five. That might be a little bit absurd, but
right now, been his health and at hamstring injury, you
need that to be explosive, especially as a point guard
when you're doing everything for Kansas. So right now Bill
self is concerned, probably because his most important and most
valuable player, we don't know if he's gonna go, you know,
for the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 6: They legit might have to shut him down.
Speaker 4: AJ stock, I think he's rising back up to the top.
I think that game versus Clemson at MSG the second
half was one that really got scouts and gms excited
in the National Basketball Association. Other guy that played well
in this game, you see riverside, Richie Soders was a
force in the first half, time a career.
Speaker 5: High fifteen points before the break.
Speaker 4: The senior finished with nineteen points eight of twelve shooting,
and added five rebounds and two assists. Alection Coasta came
off the bench with five of eight from beyond the
arc to score a career high fifteen points. He knocked
down three three pointers in the span of less than
two minutes midway through the first half.
Speaker 5: Loved what I saw from him. Boy's bench contributed a.
Speaker 4: Season high thirty six points, led by Coastick and Uh
and and Uh Hydien boop?
Speaker 5: Is it boop? Or is it my boom? If it's
if there's an them at the beginning?
Speaker 8: Them is very silent, very because I've listened to the
pronunciation and I hear a pause, but I don't hear
the M, So I'm not sure.
Speaker 6: So you can't.
Speaker 7: You can't just say boom. But I remember that show
we did Brett Weston, Could somebody do that? In the
fan DM, he says, the M is very silent to pronounce.
You're gonna have to practice a little bit. I still
is kadem boo? Like you still like that is exactly?
The M is very silent. But yes, even go on
line to BA Cougars dot Com roster does a phenomenal job.
Speaker 6: The pronunciation God is there.
Speaker 4: Cougar shot fifty nine point one percent for the field
at forty seven point four percent from the three point
line while reaching the one hundred point mark's one hundred
points mark day season high in the second one hundred
point performance of the Kevin Young era. Let's listen to
k Why in the post game opening statement and discussing
his daughter's Christmas recital.
Speaker 5: Shout out to the Young family.
Speaker 11: I might I don't usually do this, but I'm gonna
do this.
Speaker 10: First non basketball for all the parents, big day at
the Young house. So first piano recital for my daughter
before the game. She absolutely cooked in that, So shout
out to her. Now, let's open it up for basketball questions.
Speaker 5: Saying that she cooked in a recital.
Speaker 8: Just tell me your dad is a basketball coach without
telling me like you're a basketball coach. He goes, Yo,
my head said that I cooked at the recital today.
Speaker 5: Oh, oh, that's right, your dad's a basketball coach.
Speaker 4: I forgot tickling the ivories. Bravo Kevin Young's daughter. Do
we know the name of a lovely daughter that was
at the piano recital? The Christmas recital?
Speaker 7: I don't, but I will. Actually we could probably go
to his profile online.
Speaker 5: Anyway, shout out to the young family, shout out to
you Tube.
Speaker 6: And you also had something as well, I won't reveal.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, well this, yeah, well this morning, Yeah, at
Montssori Preschool, Livy did participate in the Christmas uh singing recital.
Speaker 5: So she did great, She did great.
Speaker 4: She was i'd say half of the time distracted, but
half the time she did good. Anyway, your she she
cooked half the time, all right, your offense was cooking
on Saturday. What stood out to you the most about
the overall performance Ky?
Speaker 11: The twenty two assists?
Speaker 10: You know, I thought, uh, you know, we really there
was a couple of things we wanted to highlight or
I should say emphasize coming into this game or and
the number one thing offensively was just playing with the past.
Speaker 11: More in transition.
Speaker 10: So that was the most we call him kick aheads
that we've had in the game this year, and subsequently
had the most fast break points with twenty nine fast
break points. Easier to do when you're getting stops, obviously,
and then twenty two assist.
Speaker 11: You know, that's more how you know we want to play?
And I thought the guys were really good there.
Speaker 4: The distribution of the basketball, the unselfish nature, the extra pass.
It's good, better best basketball, as I like to say,
that's what it was showcase now by you. Completely is
is way more talented than U see riverside.
Speaker 5: I mean just just.
Speaker 4: Not even close. And the resources are not on anywhere
near the equivalent footing. So you expect the dominant performance,
but the only did what they needed to and you
saw a ton of unselfish basketball. My god, just so
much unselfish basketball. And I love that. That's what you
want to see. You don't want to see a bunch
of ISO basketball. You want to see distribution, cohesion, chemistry, selflessness,
we not me type of execution. And that's what we're
seeing right now now and off the bench, right the
biggest question mark right now is rotation. It's bench play,
it's productivity coming off the bench, and with injuries, you know,
presenting themselves early in the season, you're like, all right,
who do I trust?
Speaker 5: Season high and bench points on Saturday?
Speaker 4: What did you like about the production specifically from election coasting?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know it's funny if you go ahead, so OKK,
why my bad? No, that's my bad.
Speaker 8: The numbers and stats on this team is if you
go by just straight points, you obviously have aj Ritchie
Robin Cannard there at the top, yeah, and then you
have Keba right there. But we're not expecting a ton
of points from Keba because his presence is more felt
defensively and just being a presence down on the block.
Then you so you basically dropped from Canard Davis who's
scoring nine points a game, who, by the way, he
missed a bunch of games, so he's down also to
Alexi who's down at four. Like there's a major drop off.
It's almost a cliff in points on this team. So
to see Alexi show up the way that he did
and a couple other guys Mahilo got a couple buckets,
Dominique got a couple buckets. Like the way you are
headed into conference play is not going to sustain itself.
Speaker 5: With what you had coming into yesterday.
Speaker 8: Now, given what they did against UC Riverside, that gives
you a lot of hope. And Kevin Young said in
his Sports Nation interview, he said he thought Alexi scored
the ball so well because he played so many minutes
and He's like, I feel like I've kind of not
given him as many minutes, so I haven't given as
many times to really put the.
Speaker 5: Ball in the basket.
Speaker 8: And it's kind of a chicken and an egg conversation
like is he not scoring because he doesn't have as
much time or is he not having enough time so
he doesn't score as much?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 8: However, the stats on this team tell the story of
there was a real cliff on this team in terms
of points scored, in production that way. So to see
Alexi and these guys show up, it was almost a musty,
like it had to happen in this game really for
you to start putting it into a rhythm.
Speaker 5: Going into conference.
Speaker 4: Ronald was in attendance, and we'll get to the sound
by here momentarily. Roll how many of these three point
shots were contested and or semi contested or they just
wide open? Because there's a difference, right, I'll qualifight you're
at home, and if they're completely uncontested, I don't. I'm
not bought it yet, is what I'm getting. I'm not
sold yet. You gota to prove to me. But what
percentage were you know, contested semi contested because it didn't
seem like UC Riversar was playing a whole lot of defense.
Speaker 7: Uh No, I'd say forty percent of them were contested, right.
He had a couple of wide open looks, but I
mean that's due to the nature of AJ two then Ben,
so yes, wide open in that regard of AJ's drawing attention.
But the problem was what the shooter had been and
I've seen this before, was when he got going and
then when they stepped up, like he pulled one in
the guy's face and it didn't matter right, Like he
pulled it quickly, And that's what happens with shooters like
Trevor Neil. Remember the Cincinnati game years ago, when Bo
opened up Big Twelve Conference play, he was wide open.
But then when they tried to come at that point,
the basketball was as big as a hoop, you know,
like a hula hoop.
Speaker 6: So it doesn't matter.
Speaker 7: So we're contested a sixty percent wide open, but still
it doesn't matter. You need him to gain confidence Ben
in whatever way, because I'll be honest, he didn't have
any because.
Speaker 6: He was missing shots. So this is a good builder.
Speaker 7: Now you need to hit contested shots because like I
told Brett, you know earlier this morning before the show,
you can do it in non conference against sub level
Quad three and Quad four talent. Can you do it
against premier high level QUAHD one Quad two games and
Division one talent in the Big twelve?
Speaker 6: We'll find out in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: So season high in bench points. What do you like
about the production, especially from coasting.
Speaker 10: Basket ball in the basket right we talk about a lot.
I mean, it's a shot making is a beautiful thing.
I mean, that's that's why we brought him here. We
felt like it was a matter of time before he
was able to have a game like he had tonight.
But when Dawson went down, I mean, he was a
guy that you know, he's kind of a hybrid between
like Trevin from last year in Dawson because you can't
play with the ball a little bit more off the dribble,
and if he can do that, man, that's gonna be
obviously a huge weapon for us.
Speaker 11: Especially when we sub rob out. He can do that
next to a j I like that pairing.
Speaker 4: A combo between Dawson and Trevin. I think that, I mean,
it's a great combo to have because good ball handler.
Speaker 5: You know, is he a primary point guard?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 4: You know, but he's he's good. He's good enough. He's
got some good length to him, good height. He's like,
what is he listed at?
Speaker 5: Six three sixty four? What's Alexi listed at? I think
that that's where he's at.
Speaker 4: So he's kind of in between those two anyway. But
I mean Dawson's actually a pretty good yeah, six' to,
four So, alexi's, uh six to.
Speaker 5: Four SO i like that COMP i really.
Speaker 4: Do if you can get the combo Of trevin And
dawson Through, alexi, shoot not so much of a drop
off as you.
Speaker 5: Expected by the.
Speaker 4: Way his father's orne of people don't know about this
played basketball In yugoslavia For yugoslavia as a professional basketball.
Players it comes from, good good basketball family and good basketball.
Jeans do you know he was a a judo state
champion what as a twelve year?
Speaker 5: Old? Yeah that's.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 5: Wow so LIKE i like the fact that he's a
grapplers just an. Athlete well he's a, fighter. Dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah if you're getting into judo little mixed martial, arts
it means you you like the, Contact you're not afraid
of the.
Speaker 5: Contact shout out To alexi.
Speaker 6: Right soft ben he hate, saw.
Speaker 5: He hates. SAW a couple last.
Speaker 4: Things here before we get take a time out. Here
what things are you looking for from your bench outside of?
Speaker 5: Scoring right? Now? Okay? Why? Yeah just to just.
Speaker 11: Do their WHATEVER i just told them in the locker.
Room just whatever they're good. At do, that. Right, so
Like hadeem comes, in he's an energy, guy.
Speaker 10: Played with, energy he gets a double. Double Alex alexei
obviously a. Shooter you gotta come in and you gotta
make shots and just do your job ultimately and be
able TO i, mean, look sports is a brutal world
because it's it's a you gotta, produce you, know you
just gotta.
Speaker 11: Produce and so tonight they. Did and now the challenge
for those guys is going to be able to do
it on a consistent.
Speaker 4: Basis, yeah guys gotta keep showing.
Speaker 5: Up if you, don't then you're, benched, Right.
Speaker 6: Yeah to ride the.
Speaker 7: Pine can we elaborate on that because fans always get me.
Out why don't you talk about.
Speaker 5: None of us have that in our? Job, yeah none
of us have that in our.
Speaker 4: Job we mess up or like we come BACK i
guess we could get, fired but we're not like.
Speaker 5: Bench we still have to show up and go to. Work.
Speaker 8: Bad it's, like, hey you know, What, brett you're, uh
we're taking the headset away for six days and uh
you get You you'll get a couple of minutes and
we'll just work you back into the. Rotation you don't
get to do every, segment but, like you, know we'll
just work it in here and.
Speaker 5: THERE i, mean it would be, scary but it could.
Speaker 7: Be it happens, sometimes you, know you get the micro on.
Speaker 6: Laid sometimes you don't hit the.
Speaker 7: Commercial look if IF i was pinned for all of, that,
look my shooting percentage would be under you, know forty five.
Speaker 6: Percent you.
Speaker 7: Know so not every guest is, good, right not every,
Interview so you got to judge me off my.
Speaker 6: Career gotta go on my.
Speaker 4: Career would we Be bowl eligible and points movie? Question
see DOUBLE a tournament. Employees WOULD i be a six?
Speaker 6: Man, hey twelve seed or twelve? Seed we're in the?
Speaker 5: Tournament twelve seed team.
Speaker 7: Collective actually no eleven seat because eleven seats can make
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Speaker 6: Eleven.
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the one question THAT i had at the end of
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i ACTUALLY i put it out after the, game but
we'll discuss it. Here who do you trust right?
Speaker 5: Now coming off the? Bench how deep is the? Rotation
what is the?
Speaker 4: Rotation what do you think like when we get into
like when we're gonna get into Like, February, like what
do you think the rotation is gonna look?
Speaker 5: Like last? Year we thought last. Year i'll give you an.
Speaker 4: Example we thought the rotation would be whittled down to
like seven or. Eight it actually expanded to like, eleven
eleven dudes getting minutes and they were all playing high level.
Speaker 5: Minutes it was.
Speaker 4: Fantastic what will this year's rotation look? Like maybe the
opposite of, That maybe the. Opposite maybe it's it's, more it's.
Speaker 5: A little bit. Tighter we'll see how it plays. Out
but kwat you talk about.
Speaker 4: Consistency for the second game in a, row the defense
gave up twenty one points in The was it the
first half that they give up in the second?
Speaker 5: Half what do you attribute that?
Speaker 11: To, yeah it's been, good you, KNOW i THINK i
gotta give up just so much credit to my. Staff
those guys are dialed in on the defensive.
Speaker 10: Details we've done a lot more defensive work this year
Than i've ever, done quite, frankly in practices and drilling
and technique and things of that. Nature so it's starting
to pay. OFF i thought in the first half there
was probably six to nine points that we gave up
that we shouldn't have given, up so it could have
been even.
Speaker 11: Better BUT i just think our guys are really buying
into what we're asking them to do on that end of.
Speaker 4: The, floor buying, in buying in right now on on the,
defense so of what helps right defense turns into. Offense
you get, stops get into, transition and hopefully get some
open looks in. Transition love WHAT i saw obviously not
a not a great test at, home but kind of
a warm up game to get back into. It why
because and he'll get into, this that road trip was, tough, tough, exhausting, great, fantastic, marvelous,
wonderful but.
Speaker 5: Exhausting so we'll get to that here.
Speaker 4: Momentarily but, uh how, actually let's can we go to
number eleven real, Quick, ronnie just because we were talking about,
this can we go right to number?
Speaker 5: Eleven all, right let's go to let's go to eleven.
Speaker 4: Four games in eleven. Days how do you plan on managing?
Speaker 10: That you, know tonight was good in terms of being
able to have bench guys coming and, produce so we'd
have to play the starters at as many.
Speaker 11: Minutes but it's more for.
Speaker 10: Us you, know if you, note if you're really you,
know paying attention, tonight like we played the team a
lot more at the, four you.
Speaker 5: Know and he was.
Speaker 10: Great you, know he's, statistically he's had bigger numbers at
the four and SO i think looking at different things
is is gonna be something we're trying to do in this.
Timeframe but in terms of like managing the load and so,
forth our our medical guys and our strength coach does
a great job of kind of using all the data
and so forth to keep us in the right space
with not overdoing it with these, guys And i'll lean
on them for that.
Speaker 5: Well so a little bit of a, grind you, know
on the on the road.
Speaker 4: Trip and now you're getting into you know, this there's
four games of eleven, games so load management is going
to be. Critical but let's get into what the road
was like for this. Team it had been about a
month since you had played in The Bear. Center do
you do you think being back home contributed to maybe
a faster start and and and what do you make of?
Speaker 10: That for? Sure you, KNOW i, THINK i mean this
this place always has, energy and that trip To New
york was, great but it was, exhausting you, know we
felt like we were there. Forever, honestly we had a you,
know pretty exhausting day the day after the game and
long flight and everything like.
Speaker 11: That so it took us an hour or forty minutes
to get to the airport and then.
Speaker 10: We had a five hour of whatever. Flights it's a long.
Day SO i was honestly a little worried, about you,
know let down getting back, home just in terms of
like letting our guard. Down but that was clearly not the.
Speaker 11: Case so kudos to the guys to.
Speaker 4: Responding shout out to the, guys because, look those road
trips can be.
Speaker 5: Growing he knows because he's been THE.
Speaker 4: Nba these these college basketball, players they're not they're not
accustomed to.
Speaker 5: This they're just not accustomed to. It so that was
pretty grueling for.
Speaker 4: Them and so having a little warm up In Uce
riverside is probably pretty. Beneficial now you Have pacific, tomorrow
then you have Applein Christian, friday and Then Eastern washington
On december twenty second before you get Into big twelve.
Speaker 5: Plays so it's a nice lead in to conference.
Speaker 4: PLAY i would say getting back into the swing of
things and getting dialed in and having some ease on
the schedule should BE i think all these should be
blowout similar or akin to that you See riverstard. Game
your thoughts bred always bringing the hammer.
Speaker 5: Yeah one hundred.
Speaker 8: Percent but this kind of harkens back to something we
Heard Kevin young say during the offseason and last, season
which is THESE i realized they haven't played a lot
at home, recently especially given The Terry Chocolate, Invitational Madison
Square garden, game The wisconsin game up In Salt, lake
which not as bad a travel but still not on
your home. Floor but To Kevin young's, point like we've
heard him say, this we want to be playing tournament
environments and guess, what playing at the.
Speaker 5: Home playing at, home that's not a tournament tournament.
Speaker 8: Environment you know how many big twelve tournament games you're
gonna be playing in The Merritt center. Zero so to
be able to handle business on the road in those
tournament environments and not allow that to cost you in
the games that you're supposed to win is a huge, deal.
Speaker 5: No doubt about.
Speaker 10: It.
Speaker 5: Uh i'm expecting a lot of.
Speaker 4: Points AND i, hope like what we saw VERSUS uc,
riverside this cohesive, chemistry we not me type of, Ball
that's WHAT i hope is built over this these next three.
Games And i'm looking at the, rotation, guys you know
it's it's really fun to watch the. Rotation let's get
into number. Ten SO i want you to think about
the rotation when you think it's gonna be whittled down
With ronnie and And. Brett number. Ten here we Saw
Abdullah achmed was you're in the he was in the.
Building you GOT kJ perry, signed et. Cetera what what's
the plan for him AND? kJ could they play this?
Speaker 5: Year? Potentially we're still working out all the.
Speaker 10: Details there's a lot that goes into it as of finding.
Out SO i don't have a great answer.
Speaker 4: There, oh you look at the roster and you see the.
Talent you see what you're brought, in and who's getting
minutes right? Now Dawson baker's out and A pickens who's,
out and and and you you look At alexi coming on,
strong getting more, minutes and he's the combo Of treadanell
And Dawson baker and he went what five of eight
from the three point like, Fantastic so you know he's
going to be a part of. It you wonder what
the role Of Tyler moross is gonna. Be we haven't
Seen Brody koslowski. Yet you, KNOW i don't know if
he's gonna be another LIKE i don't know if he's
a medical or red shirt or you know what his status, Is.
Mihailo what's his role going to? Be we Know Hadim
moop is going to be. Involved you need, size you
need someone backing. Up Keba dominique is coming along but
still looks a little raw on the defensive end in my,
opinion and and and and coming into very good athlete
though very, good great great. Athlete Uh xavian uh little,
light little light, Right like you wonder what his role
is going to, be great shot. Blocker but you look at,
YEAH kJ, perry you feel like Maybe abdulah is going
to Be they're really pushing, Again abdullah you Want IS
kJ perry gonna be in the? Mix can they get
up to speed By? February is that enough? Time ronald
the three man? Weaver what do you got for?
Speaker 11: Me?
Speaker 7: YEAH i actually, been you, know caught up With Brennan
dunson last week in preparation for THE Uc riverside. Gaming
he comments on this class and what the plan is
a little bit FOR kJ And. ABDULLAH i think we
transition and play that sound clip for the.
Speaker 4: Fans, okay let's good let's play that clip for all
The cougar fans In Cougar country and see what he
had to say about that rotation and the Bench.
Speaker 1: I'm speaking on twenty twenty sixth.
Speaker 12: Class, obviously we've signed two local, Kids Dean rutgerd And Will,
openshaw Which i'm gonna be big pickups for.
Speaker 1: Us will is gonna do his. Mission dean's coming in next.
Speaker 12: Season but we've obviously been following them since we got the,
job And Coach burgess has known both of those guys
a lot longer than the rest of us. Have but
definitely great fits for the. PROGRAM kJ, perry he'll actually
get in here next, week had followed him since he
was in high school At Gilbert High. School then he
moved over To palisades In california and just kind of
followed his trajectory and when he got to junior college
level and saw what he was able to do At
citrus one of the best junior college pro In california
and frankly in the. Country they've got a coach THAT
i used to coach against WHEN i was coaching In.
Speaker 1: NAI i was At Arizona Christian.
Speaker 12: University he was At Concorded university In irvine and has
always done a great. Job AND i think his, athleticism his,
upside the way he approaches the. GAME i think he
has a chance to be really, good and he's very
humble and wants to get.
Speaker 1: Better so we're really looking forward to adding.
Speaker 12: Him he'll sit out this year this semester and then
be ready to go next, year BUT i think he'll
add to.
Speaker 1: Our practices quite a. BIT i think one are the
big things that really helped us last.
Speaker 12: YEAR i, mean we had twelve or thirteen guys who
were just they weren't too far, off and so our
practices were always so. Competitive and it's been the case
this year as. Well but With dawson going, out With
Nate pickens going, out With brody not being, in we've
struggled a little bit in, practice just with. Depth SO
i think he's gonna he's definitely gonna add to that
and be able to TO uh show when he's on
the scout, team show what some of these other PROGRAMS
uh can do when we're when we're preparing for, guys
he gives us a quick athletic h and explosive guard
and then Obviously Abdullah, med.
Speaker 1: Huge pickup for.
Speaker 12: Us he's been here for about three or four weeks
uh in the in The Pro bowl. Area now we
haven't had been able to work with him or do
anything like. That he's kind of been working out on his.
Own but a big, body great, experience and again a
guy who will add a lot of depth and practice
and very, physical very, skilled and he'll be able to
provide a great.
Speaker 1: Look for our guys in preparation for.
Speaker 4: Games so like the question one of the POLLS i
put out today is, like do you think that BU
a basketball will have to Play Abdullah ahmed AND kJ?
Perry sounds LIKE kJ is going to be red shirted this,
year no chance of him, playing SO k why was
in discussion?
Speaker 5: Here? Now now that's not to, SAY i, mean, look
if we have An edther injury on.
Speaker 4: The guard, line heaven, Forbid heaven, forbid like knock on,
anything you, know fake, wood real, wood, plastic some. Composite
like who's to say that they wouldn't be, available, right
but they have to get.
Speaker 5: Eligible.
Speaker 4: IMAGINE i Remember Matt carlino came in and was a
mid year and FROM, ucla AND i think he was
able to play and was was you, know CLEARED i
think Into. January so it has happened in the past
and it could happen in the, present but it sounds
like plan right now is not to play.
Speaker 5: kJ he's gonna be your scout team.
Speaker 4: Guy Abdullah, ahmed, though would he be a guy that
dau needs down the? Stretch that's a big seven, footer
almost seven footer right.
Speaker 8: There, Yeah and AGAIN i think the question to really
diagnose this that you have to ask is what about
the rotation do they?
Speaker 5: Need is it three point? Production is it someone to
manage the offense while your guys are on the. Bench
what is?
Speaker 8: It and For ahmed to, PLAY i think your problem
needs to be your front, court WHICH i don't really
see a massive issue with because of What aj is capable.
Doing we know What keba is and then obviously you Have,
kadeem who to, me, like if we're ranking guys in the,
rotation who we, trust to, me number one is Ka Kadeem.
Speaker 5: Boop that's number one to.
Speaker 8: ME i was Telling ron this, MORNING i think he's
The Dennis rodman of this bou basketball, team where he just.
Speaker 5: He doesn't care if he's scoring a.
Speaker 8: Basket he doesn't care if he's getting a, rebound he
doesn't care if he's playing.
Speaker 5: Defense as long as he's playing. Basketball he's happy to be.
Speaker 8: Contributing SO i Think kadeem is number one in terms
of guys off the rotation THAT i. Trust BUT i
do wonder, like and this is SOMETHING i want to ask, You, Ron,
like we Know xavion was a big time recruit coming.
IN i think bau fans are a little spoiled because
you got the number one overall and he's playing the
number one recruit AND aj Debotsa SO i think fans'
minds go, to, Well zavion was the top hundred guy as,
well so shouldn't we be seeing more from? Him AND
i guess that's that's the first THING i want to ask, You,
ron because you are the basketball, Guru, like what's reasonable
for us to be expecting Of xavion right? Now do
you feel like he's under for? Performing is he's where
he's supposed to. Be is he going to get better this?
Season or is it gonna be kind of a long
haul thing with?
Speaker 7: Him, YEAH i think you're gonna have to answer your, Question.
Brett you're gonna have to wait a couple of uh
maybe months for it to. DEVELOP i don't think it's
gonna be this. Season, Right he's come in and you've
seen what it's. Been he's a little bit more. Raw
you've had THE cbs people twenty four to seven sports
but says the upside is, there but a little bit more.
Raw abdullah's already. There and the WHAT i was gonna
bring In Ben if you're looking for a, guy As
i'm went back and watched his film and his, tape
a guy that can roll to the basket and attack
it the way he, needs That's, abdula like when you
think of shot Blocking caba when he goes to the.
Speaker 6: Bench and If kadem were to get in foul, Trouble
i'm telling you go Watch abdula's. Tape is what you
Expect xavian to.
Speaker 7: Do so there's a chance Of doulah could play like,
Right and, Yeah boots is not a, five he's a.
Speaker 6: Four we're talking about that to, five, right And kiba
is playing a.
Speaker 7: Five so If keba gets in foul trouble or goes
to the, bench or you have to Put kadem and
you go small ball and he gets in foul. Trouble
look been anything's possible in The big. Twelve we've seen
a bunch of. Lineups you want to have another body.
Available AND i just think right, now with how they're
coaching up x and the, DEVELOPMENT i Think abdulah haven't
playing in THE G, league is already. There xavier needs
to develop a little bit. More SO i think that's
why they're gonna try to push that. Process AND i
don't think it's the wrong. DECISION i think it's the right.
Way with how he, rolls how he, rebounds he's a
rim runner as. Well he can get score in the,
paint he can. Rebound so right, NOW i think With brett's,
point IF i had to think of the rotation deep
Into march When ba went on that amazing run last,
year if it came down to, it and if he
got if he got to prove been to play this,
season THEN i think you're gonna have. Him he can
post up really, well SO i would not be surprised
In march if he got. Cleared If abdullahmed you, know
was not in the, ROTATION i think that's a.
Speaker 4: Possibility, Yeah so this is my conclusion right. NOW i
trust six guys on this, TEAM i trust Aj Keba, Canard,
ritchie Rob wright And hadim That that's Where i'm. At
the jury's still out For costick in my, opinion BECAUSE
i saw early on when he got, here like the
handle was a little bit sloppy when pressured with length
and athleticism versus his own. Team, Right, yeah he can,
shoot but, like has he gone through the refinding. Fire
the reason why you Like dawson is, because, man he
played so much freaking, basketball played so much ball before
arriving at. Me has a hand three years and he's
got a, handle and he can, shoot and he and
when he's, healthy he actually does have some good. Acceleration
he's not the most athletic, guy but he's got some
good Succeed he's got good size and.
Speaker 5: Just to he's.
Speaker 4: Refined, Right he's not gonna turn the ball over to
full court. Press footwork is a big time, game you
know WHAT i. Mean, Like, so to, me the jury's
still out On. Alexi seems Like tyler's lost a little
bit of you, know, whatever whatever the reason why he
was brought, in he's lost it a little. Bit dominique
is a project to me right, now he could get
better Come.
Speaker 5: February he could be better Come.
Speaker 4: FEBRUARY i trust six guys AND i Think i'm gonna
trust the seventh With abdullah right.
Speaker 5: Now that's WHAT I i.
Speaker 4: Know and without even Seeing, abuild you just pull up
his tape experience of the Gle he's a five and
we're gonna need a.
Speaker 5: Five back it Up Keva ageriod AND i think period
he is the seventh.
Speaker 7: Guy, MAN i trust and look UNTIL i see a
last BECAUSE i Told brett this morning. Too tyler to,
me and this may be, harsh has worked himself out
of the. Rotation diamonde defensively on what he provides and
getting to the free throw line is trustworthy now getting
more minutes Than. Tyler So tyler's gonna have to showcase
when it. Happens But Ben abdullah's the, seventh AND i
Think kosach And dominique can be your eight and, nine
depending if people get in foul. Trouble that's WHAT i
would say the rotation would be getting Into January. February
tyler right now has to prove. It but right now
he's the odd man.
Speaker 5: Out, ben and, HONESTLY i need to see more From
mihilo Bucket.
Speaker 6: Vich likelo's on that way, Too, Ben, yeah like he has.
Speaker 4: Not improved enough, Now, grant he had a decent game
five points two or three for one for one from
the three point lie and we did see improvement By.
Speaker 5: February And march From mihilo and he got some minutes
when it.
Speaker 4: Counted So i'm not going to completely erase him off
of my trust factor just. Yet but he's flirtatious with,
me like he's so right. NOW i think those are
the seven THAT i, Like boop and Then abdullah and
then there's a competition right. Now alexi's got to step,
Up mahalo's got to step, up And dominique has to
step up BECAUSE kJ not going to be. Involved Per Brandon.
Dunson that's your rotation right. Now what do you make of?
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