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Speaker 1: I made a decision. Sunny sun yet on ahead a vision.

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It's nice.

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Speaker 2: What's happening party? People, welcome to our show?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Who Stephanie, Happy birthday? Oh is my birthday coming up? Yeah? Not?

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Oh is it next?

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Speaker 2: Your birthday's coming up? Today's Friday?

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Speaker 1: Uh not? Yeah? So do we have another show before them? Though?

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I think we know we don't. You're right, you're right.

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My birthday is in a few days. When you're listening

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to this, all right, happy birthday? Oh love it? I

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do not love it. I'm getting really, really old and

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I'm not happy. Oh.

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Speaker 2: Look right, though you don't know, like we don't look

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or feel our age, which is nice.

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Speaker 1: No, we don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean sometimes we might feel it, but we don't

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look at we don't act it.

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Speaker 1: I know. The only thing about getting older for me,

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even though in some ways I feel young, But it's

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the it's the anxiety and the kind of homebodyness that

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I feel like crept in when my hormone levels started dropping.

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But you know what I mean, it's like I like

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to feel safe. I know you relate to this. I

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don't like a lot of adventure.

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Speaker 2: No, anyway, I don't think anyway our age does either

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at this point after raising kids.

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Speaker 1: But I was thinking, you feel like we've.

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Speaker 2: Had adventure like that, we've had this.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot of stuff. But should my life

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be over?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, no, it's not over because now

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it's a second chapter because now your kids are off

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their adults, they're doing their own thing.

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Speaker 1: You know. You know what it is though, and I

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know you relate to this. I like doing stuff, but

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I like doing stuff I've already done.

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Speaker 2: And I know I like it right me too, you know, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't like like I was thinking about, Okay, it's summer,

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you know, hey, I should like enrich my kids exhibit

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a little bit. And I was like, you know what

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we've never done is go to Balboa Island. Yeah, and

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I remember that a couple of years ago. I was

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telling Robin Robin that I wanted to go there, and

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she used to live in Orange County years ago, and

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she was like, oh, yeah, it's like really cute and

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it's really fun and you take the you can take

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you can drive onto the ferry. And then I was like,

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oh you lost me, like drive onto the f I

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was like, that's like I'm going to be there's going

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to be signs like how do I do it? Do

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I buy a ticket ahead of time? And my brain

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immediately just goes, no, I'm out.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to drive on the ferry.

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Speaker 1: You don't have you done this?

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Speaker 2: No, you can just take the ferry as a pedestrian.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so you just park? Where do you park?

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Speaker 2: You park close to the island.

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Speaker 1: I'm just naming this episode.

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Speaker 2: But where are you? Where do you.

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Speaker 1: There's is it Stephanie's anvariety parking? Yes, yeah, I'm sure

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there's signs of where to park, and there's signs of

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where to catch the faery and yeah, we did it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Back in the nineties, we have a

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video of all of us, like Dawn and Glenn, Susanah, everybody.

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We were singing there's a karaoke place on Balboa Island,

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and we took the We got on the ferry, we

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went over there. We hung out all day day, drank

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all day, then went to the karaoke place where they videotaped,

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gave us a videotape which we somebody still has and

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we've watched it throughout the years of us doing Sweet

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Child of Mine, and we're.

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Speaker 1: All just like sweet Jem and May. Everybody's saying like

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like everybody's taking a verse. You know, it's so great,

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so that I have memories of that from Babo Island.

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haven't been back since that was like ninety two, so

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you were like in your twenties maybe right, and you're

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like that seems fun and you're not worried about like

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but where do I park? Right, You're just like, I

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don't know. We'll figure it out when we get there.

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I've lost the we'll figure it out when we get there.

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Things right, right even, and I talk myself out of

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stuff like like you know what I mean, it'll something

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will seem like a good idea, like let's go drive

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to Law Law whatever casino and see this band and

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then you know, seeguci Aio speedwagon at the whatever RIGHTECHNGA casino.

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a ticket and then we stay there and then like.

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Speaker 2: You have to drive home after that.

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Speaker 1: I have a two hour drive, Like but do we stay?

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But are those guys gonna want to drink? But like yeah,

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just by the time you thought it through you're tired, right, Like,

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do I really want to go that bad?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Exactly. My friends and I, like my big mom jew

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mom friends group literally talked ourselves out of going to

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see air Supply by the time. By the time we

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decided not to go, I was like, did I even

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like air Supply that much in the first place? Like,

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I mean, I can only think of maybe three big songs,

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right we're alone with my head on the phone. Yes, listen,

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they have some good songs, but they're old too now.

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Speaker 2: Right, You're like, how good are a going to be?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: So you guys talked yourself out of it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was at first like, yeah, let's go, let's do that.

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We were going to do it for somebody's birthday. I

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think it was for Cecily's birthday. Everybody said they were in.

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But then when it push came to cheven we were like, okay,

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we got to make the plan. This person dropped out

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that the Amerson dropped out. I was like, do we

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want to go just the four of us?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Right? And then we're like, yeah, who's going to stay

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in what room?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: There's going to be a drive?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that. You know you have to have

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somebody at the helm that's going to plan everything. That's

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I think is the key.

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Speaker 1: Because so we went to the river last summer at

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Glenn's house at.

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Speaker 2: Like you know, and it was basically near HAVISU. What's

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it called. Yeah, anyway, it's the river in Arizona. Fun

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because he has a house there, and so yeah, we

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did that. So now he's like, let's go again. I

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want to plan a trip again. So we get everybody

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on the group text and we're all down and we're

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so we're going in a couple of weeks actually fun. Yeah,

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like Thursday to Sunday.

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Speaker 1: See that's somebody's house, right, Like that's there's I don't

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have to worry about.

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Speaker 2: And like, well, last time he drove, But now he's

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getting us a plane to take us, which yeah, remember

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he had us to a plane to get us home

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because he works in that in that industry, that's his job,

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has his own business that he built in air parts,

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airplane parts industry. So he's done this before. He takes

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planes all the time with his family and stuff. So

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I'm like, all right, it's better than driving. We get

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there in like forty five minutes dawn of course, is

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having a nervous breakdown, and he's like, huh why because

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she's that's the way she is, like I'm scared and

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don't you know, just scared to get on a small plane.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: You have to have like something somebody that's like, you know,

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take charge, Like right, we'll do every And he loves

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to cook and he loves to entertain, and it's like, yeah.

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But then it's also I just sweat the small stuff too.

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It's like, okay, but then who's gonna watch Bob? And

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I would have to like it would have to be

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me going somewhere and John staying home with the dog, right,

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because that's all too much. Yea, we can't really do

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a family like We're not going to go to Balboa

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as a family. It would have to be John's going

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to stay home. I go with like Sadie and Xanders. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah you should. You should do something like that. Remember,

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I feel like it was towards the end of COVID

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that I started trying to do stuff. I remember I

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went to this I use this company London or something,

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and I rented We rented one of those boats. Those

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oh yeah, you know those boats that just kind of

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go around the bay.

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Speaker 2: I did that too. We both did that because I remember,

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because Natalia's scarred for life. We took they took us

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around the bay and we were Jodie was with us.

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It was sunny Italian me and the captain of the

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boat was driving anyway. They were pulling Natalia from behind,

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and then she lost she let go of whatever she

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was on her little surfboard, and then the boat turned

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around and I was like, oh bye. We were like

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by an Italian and she was like start, what are

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you doing where where? Like She's like, you freaked me

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out by going like bye because she didn't realize the

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boat how to go like anyway.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we did that too. I'm talking about a

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duffy boat. Oh, a duffy boat where you rent it yourself.

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they and I mean that was a few years ago.

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of go like they give you the quickest like here's

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a map, go here, and just be back in an hour. Okay.

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You're like, okay, you're driving the boat. You drive the boat, Okay,

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to do that now with the kids? I mean, it

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wasn't that fun, you know what I mean? I could

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see doing it. I'd rather do one of those like

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will watching things that I see listed all the time.

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I think that would be fun when I'll drive the boat.

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Speaker 2: That's fun. Yeah, let somebody else drive the boat. Or

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what about Catalina?

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Speaker 1: I have thought about that. Ziplining. Yeah, it's so fun. Yeah,

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that could be really fun. You do that, like what overnight?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get like it's pretty cheap out there too,

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but you have to take the ferry that takes like

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Speaker 1: I've gotten to Catalina before in my life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So you just get a hotel room for the night,

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and then you got to book the you got to

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book the faerry times and then it takes you there.

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either do it that day that you get there. If

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you get there early, you go to the ziplining place.

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Ziplining's like a couple hours. It's really really fun, really

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fun I suggest I want to do that again.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's something I could even do with John and

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we just get a dog sitter for late the night.

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Speaker 2: That would be nice. That would be really nice. The

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kids wouldn't watch the dog for the night. No, I'm saying,

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we'll take with the kids. We go with the kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be I mean, John and I don't

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need to go to Catalina. That would be a nice vacation. Yeah,

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that would be Yeah. But I was thinking that. I

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was just thinking that, and I think it's an getting

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older thing. I'm just really it's not just the parking.

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It's like making any decision has become harder for me.

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I don't know what it is, but I was kind

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of berating myself today because I was like trying to

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decide if I should buy contact lenses. So because for

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a long time now i've had progressive if I wear

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glasses all the time, and I'm kind of like I

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used to be kind of cuter in photographs when I

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wasn't always wearing glasses. And I was like, I know what,

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I can wear contacts because remember I had that surgery,

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so now I could wear contacts, But I don't see

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that well out of the bifocal contacts. I don't know,

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it's hard to explain. So I was like, do I

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want to invest in these contacts? And I was I

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had them in the cart and I was like comparing

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one eight hundred contacts to contacts direct and it was

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taking me. I'm not kidding you. It's like forty minutes

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of me. And then I was like, I don't know,

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it's like almost two hundred dollars. Do I want them

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that bad? And then I was like, girl, Lynette is

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buying a bucking house right now, Lynette is buying a house,

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doing all the paperwork for a brand new home, and

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you're like, you can't pull the trigger on some contact lenses?

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they I know I feel the same way.

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Speaker 2: It's very it's not easy, and it's not easy, especially

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by yourself. Like you know, there's like.

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Speaker 1: You mean, like me having to buy contacts by myself,

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right right? Yes, no support, no support, right, Like I

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know it is.

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Speaker 2: It's a big decision and it's like you know, and

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then you think, oh, what what furniture do I have

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for that room? And like I'm gonna have to get

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some new furniture, and then they're like, do you want

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to keep these curtains? Do you want to If you

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want to keep them, you got to let me know.

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the thing leave them there, or that will be that

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that's what he's gonna, that's what he's got. He's like,

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give me a list of things that you think you

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might want to keep, and I'm like, I don't know.

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I've never ever had in my life, and I don't

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sounds cool. It doesn't.

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Speaker 2: But like I hear people have trash compactors and they

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never use it. I don't know, I've never had one.

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Speaker 1: You know, those one of those things that didn't quite

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catch on, like the metric system where everybody had like

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there was a period of time where you didn't everyone

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had one. But then you don't really hear of it.

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Speaker 2: You don't hear about it anymore. Yeah, that's another I'm

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thinking about taking that out and putting it because you

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know what, I like. I like the trash in the kitchen.

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Where you can pull it out and then like it's

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in the cabinet. Yeah, because when you have a dog,

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it's the best thing. Yes, I don't want to have

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a trash can. Yeah, so I'm thinking of getting rid

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of that trash compactor, making a sliding trash can thing.

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Speaker 1: You know. You make a good point. And we're trying

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to plan for when we get our kitchen redone at

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some point when we have money. And that's one hundred

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percent need that, yeah, right, yeah, it doesn't have that

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right now.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have that. And the houses I've had with

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Phil have had that and it's it's like a good

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feature to have and they don't have that. So that's yeah.

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So I'm going to go be going out there again

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soon with my friend and Glenn, who knows a lot

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of contractors, and we're going to make a plan of

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things like that that needs to be done at the house,

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Like I definitely want to put in another bathroom and

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you know, just minor things like that.

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Speaker 1: So but you'll be living there when you do it.

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It's not like any big consuction.

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to do it before I move in. But it's some

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things that I want to get done pretty quickly mine

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as well.

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Speaker 1: You know, And if you were when you do something

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like that, would you hire a contractor or would you

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just like go, I don't know, have home depot, have

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some people from home deep.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm going to hire a contractor because Glenn just

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did it him. He just did himself his whole house,

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made his like gutted it and fixed it up. And

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so he's got all these people that he knows that

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are really good and blah blah blah, and you know,

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could do it. So he's like, let me come out

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there and we'll get a game plan, we'll make a

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list of it.

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Speaker 1: So he would be your contractor, not him.

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Speaker 2: But then he's going to like contact his guy that

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can do the trash compactor, do the kitchen cabinets or whatever,

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and then I can put him in touch with me.

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But I can't.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that like doing it yourself? I mean, yes, the

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difference is right, if you hire a contractor, then they

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use all their people, right, or you can kind of

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not use a contractor, but like you just go to

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all that, you just hire the individual people and they

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come in and do it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know no idea either. Well I'm thinking

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also like maybe eventually like expanding the closet to upstairs,

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but that's like something maybe you just call California Closets

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and have them do it, or you know, even the bathroom.

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Maybe I see all these ads like expand your shout,

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make your shower.

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Speaker 1: Shower right one day show Now my phone heard me yes,

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all one day show. Same same with me. Yeah, al

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our bow Al is going to like show us all

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this stuff. So yeah, I mean things like I don't know,

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I don't know. Glen's very savvy with that stuff. So

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start there.

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Speaker 2: I really can't do anything until I can get into

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that house, right, which will be in thirty one days.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's something exciting. First of all, let me tell

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you about our friend, Diana Mettevski's son, who has a

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new delicatessen in downtown Wixam, Michigan. Michigan listeners, I want

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you guys to go out there and show Diana, longtime listener,

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show her son some love. He opened Mila Delicatessen. They

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just opened in March, so they've only been opened a

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couple months, and they want everybody who's a listener to

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stop by They're serving incredible sandwiches made on world famous

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Zingerman's bread from ann Arbor, delicious desserts from Zingerman's bake House.

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They have handcut fries, cooked and beef tallow, premium quality meats,

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and exceptional specialty coffee. I'm still craving dolling right now.

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Me too, Me too?

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Speaker 2: Sounds so good.

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Speaker 1: They're open Monday through Friday from ten am to five

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and Saturday nine am to four. And if you mention

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that you heard about them on for crying out loud,

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they'll give you ten percent off your order. This is

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a new business, this is her son's business. What a

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great mom. I know, it's really sweet. I wish wait

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we lived in the area, I would go buy there.

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I know Wixam Michigan. Okay, so they can't wait to

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Speaker 2: HIC So.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to share with you. I got this. I

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got a really cool email. Yeah, it's going to be

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forgive me, it's going to be a little braggy, but

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it was like pretty exciting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hear it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I got this email from Ben Greenberg. Hi, Hello,

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Stephanie Wilder Taylor. I hope you're having a great week.

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My name is Ben Greenberg, and I serve as vice

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president and editor in chief at Random House. I recently

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spend some time reading about your work, particularly Drunkish, and

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I was genuinely impressed by the honesty, wit, and emotional

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clarity woven throughout the memoir WHOA. What especially stood out

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to me was the way you balance humor with vulnerability

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while exploring the deeply personal realities surrounding alcohol, self awareness, motherhood, identity,

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and recovery. The voice feels sharp, authentic, and highly relatable

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without ever losing its emotional weight, which is not an

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easy balance to achieve. WHOW I would be very interested

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in learning more about your current and forthcoming projects, as

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well as whether you're currently represented by a literary agent.

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I am not. If you do have representation, I would

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of course be pleased to continue any discussion through your

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agent directly. If not, I would be happy to outline

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how the process typically work. Should there be mutual interest

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in continuing the conversation further subject to reviewing additional material.

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There may be an opportunity for broader discussions regarding potential

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alignment with Random Houses memoir, narrative nonfiction, and culturally resonant

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contemporary publishing program. If this is of interest to you,

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I would be delighted to hear back from you, wishing

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you continued success with your writing, and I look forward

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to the possibility of connecting further. Warm regards, Ben Greenberg. Wow,

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I got this email and I was like, John, Oh, John,

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I got a cool email. And John comes in and

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I read in the email and he goes, that's awesome.

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He goes, you know, just be sure it's not a scam.

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And I was like scam? What what? Like?

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Speaker 2: Now, like, how.

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Speaker 1: Would that be a scam? It's like, it's to me,

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it's all about my beautiful writing, right, Why would that

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be a scam? And he goes, well, just I don't know,

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check the email address. Make sure it's like a genuine,

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a valid email address. So I look at the email

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address and it's from Ben Greenberg dot editor with two

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rs at Aol dot com. And I was like, what

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the fuck? So I look up, I look up I

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ask chat GPT to look up what is the email

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address for Ben Greenberg at random house? And is there

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benzens okay.

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Speaker 2: That we just put his email address out there.

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Speaker 1: Uh, well that's not his email address. Oh okay, is

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the spoiler alert? That is not Ben Greenberg's email address?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: So I look up what Ben Greenberg's email addresses and

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it says it's whatever at random house, whatever, And it

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says right there, if you get something from another email

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address that is not Ben Greenberg. And then I look

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up scams and it's like, oh yeah, this is a

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very very common scam. Oh my god, very common scam,

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and a lot of it has to do with this

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Ben Greenberg person.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Stephanie and I just go a whiplash.

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Speaker 1: The way the way I was like went from like

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all proud of myself and my writing to like, oh

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my god, I basically almost fell for this. Oh because

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I go, I'm gonna write back. I go all right back,

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I go probably tomorrow, because this was like like at night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Then I was like, wait a minute, it was a

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Sunday night. This is like a few weeks ago, And

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I'm like, why is an editor at a big top

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five company the vice president of random house. Why is

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he emailing me at ten o'clock at night on a

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Sunday night? And then I was like, you know what,

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why ask why? Right exactly? Maybe he was curled up. Yeah,

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he came across my book and he was like, oh

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my god, yeah, I'm blown away right now. I must

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contact this. I must contact her immediately, if not sooner,

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she is that talented. Let me, I don't care, it's

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Sunday night, Fuck my family. I need to email Stephanie

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Wilder Toler right now. Let me get her email address.

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It's not waiting till Monday morning. So this cannot wait.

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This cannot wait twelve hours, Absolutely not. Then I find

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out it is one of the most common and then

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of course I read it over with fresh eyes, right

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and I'm like, subject, there might be an opportunity discussing

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their publishing program. I'm like, publishing program. Then I find

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out that the way the scam works is they get

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you in there and they do it a lot to publisher,

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to writers that don't have an actual publishing deal, which

471
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,400
is even worse because those people are like, holy shit,

472
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,039
this person came across and they usually come across like

473
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:49,640
articles or a self published book, right, and then they go, hey, like,

474
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,039
you have this self published book, like I'd be interested

475
00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:55,160
in like publishing you like Random Housewrights to publish. You

476
00:23:55,759 --> 00:24:00,440
imagine that you're like, oh my god, my ship has

477
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,119
come in. I've self published all of the belief I

478
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,640
had in myself. I knew it. I knew I should

479
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,640
have invested ten thousand dollars in self publishing my book.

480
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,279
I knew somebody would see it and give me, like

481
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,000
a deal at a top five house. Oh my god,

482
00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:18,519
it's happened. And then imagine you write back to that

483
00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:21,599
person and you ignore the fact that it's an AOL. No,

484
00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:26,920
it's an AOL email and it's AOL. The guy from

485
00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:29,400
the vice president of Random House is like, I still

486
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,000
use AOL. Don't worry because we're just people folk AOL

487
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:39,000
hot mail. My god, Oh that sucks so bad. It's fun.

488
00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:42,559
It's just funny, I don't. I mean, he's what a like,

489
00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:45,279
what a kind of business? What kind of scam is that?

490
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,559
Speaker 2: So what happens and they get the people involved and

491
00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:54,200
they get they pay them.

492
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: Well, yes, then it costs money. Then they say, okay,

493
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,079
we're doing this program. So I've come across now on

494
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,920
Facebook pages ever since this happened. It's one of those

495
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,839
weird things where it happens to you and then you

496
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,000
start noticing it. Like in I'm in like a Facebook

497
00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:13,279
group for memoir writers and somebody was like, Hey, I

498
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,759
just got an email from this person at random house

499
00:25:16,839 --> 00:25:19,759
and like and all these people and they're like, it

500
00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:22,240
seems like a scam. And then all these people are like,

501
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:24,319
oh God, that's a scam. And then all these people

502
00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:26,119
were like, oh, I got the same one, and they

503
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,000
were super flowery and flattering about my writing and they

504
00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:32,400
told me this and that, and I was like, oh,

505
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:32,799
me too.

506
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: Even when you were reading it, I was thinking, this

507
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,000
doesn't sound like chatgybt. It sounds like you really like

508
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,279
read the books, right.

509
00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:43,839
Speaker 1: It was yeah, so I know, which just makes it

510
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,119
like that much further to fall when you're like, wait

511
00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:50,039
what And I mean the cherry to me is that

512
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,519
I was mad at John briefly, right, like, you know,

513
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,799
you don't believe in me, how Darius so unsupportive? Fuck

514
00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:02,960
you You're jealous? And it's like, oh aol, because John

515
00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:05,599
is so tavvy about this stuff, he did not want

516
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,799
to be like that sounds like a scam, right. He

517
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,799
was just like, yeah, just check the email and make

518
00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:11,920
sure it's like the right actual person.

519
00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, smart, I get. I mean like I get emails

520
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,039
a lot sometimes, like you owe this amount of money

521
00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:21,720
and then I'm like what, like for PayPal or stuff

522
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,400
like that. I'm like what And then you look at that.

523
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,119
You have to look at the email address where it

524
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,960
comes from, and I'm like, oh, like this is a

525
00:26:28,079 --> 00:26:28,759
total scam.

526
00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: It'll be like PayPal at RX four nine twenty right, yes,

527
00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:38,039
front lawn right, And You're like wait, what that can't

528
00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:41,440
be a real email address. Yeah, PayPal's in there somewhere

529
00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:45,000
right exactly. Remember do you remember when you had that

530
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,119
thing with the that scammed you on the phone and

531
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,759
you called them back. Do you remember that story? I

532
00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:56,640
can't remember the details, but oh yes, yeah. It was

533
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,559
the It was the power company saying they were going

534
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,519
to shut off our power.

535
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:02,759
Speaker 2: Is that what it was?

536
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: Yes, and that we owed us a bunch of money

537
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,960
and then yes, And then I called them back and

538
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,200
then they were like okay, hold on, remember and they yes,

539
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,000
And I was like I don't understand, Like I don't

540
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,599
where our bill is, Like it's hardly it was Oh,

541
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,400
then I said, because then I told John, is our

542
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,359
power bill late? They're going to shut off our power?

543
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,319
And he's like, no, they're not. And I was like,

544
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,759
yes they are. I just freaking got off the phone

545
00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:27,480
with them, right. We had to send them the money

546
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,079
and he was like no, and I was like, I

547
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:31,640
could do it on the phone. Yes, And it's a

548
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,000
total scam. It was a total scam. But you like

549
00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:37,799
caught them, you called them back or something and yes, yes,

550
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,279
And then I tried to say that I was. I

551
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,599
tried to. I can't remember exactly, like you kind of

552
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,680
played a lot to play along. Yes, yeah, I had

553
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,079
to play along. And then I was like, so where

554
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:48,720
do I send the money? Yeah?

555
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

556
00:27:50,319 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: Wow.

557
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: You know what just happened to Glenn recently in his business.

558
00:27:55,079 --> 00:28:00,200
He got at his office, he got this email that

559
00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:04,559
said something like we have control of all of your

560
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,640
hard drives and all of your business and we're shutting

561
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,799
it down unless you pay us like one point one

562
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:13,559
million dollars or something like in bitcoin or something like that.

563
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,559
Oh my god, And they did. They shut He couldn't

564
00:28:16,599 --> 00:28:21,920
access any of his stuff for days. Yeah, And he

565
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,880
was like, and I'm like, you're not going to pay it, right,

566
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,000
And he's like no. So he got like these professionals

567
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,480
on it, and they figured it out and they got

568
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:34,240
rid of whatever ransomware that was on his shit. But

569
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,599
he lost business for like almost a week. He didn't

570
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,920
have access to anything. Wow, his whole business was shut down.

571
00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:47,440
Not fucking nuts, that's crazy. Yeah, so many scams going

572
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,880
on out there. It's really bad. Yeah, especially with AI

573
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:53,079
and stuff.

574
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: And they're so tricky Like this one was easy to

575
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,559
figure out because they used AOL. But imagine and if

576
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:03,240
you're ripe for that, if you're vulnerable, which I was,

577
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:05,839
I'm not represented by an agent. I was like, oh

578
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,519
my god, things are turning around. Am I writing career? Yeah?

579
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,240
But imagine people that don't aren't even as savvy as

580
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,559
I am.

581
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. But do you think even if John, let's say,

582
00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:18,559
if John wasn't there, do you think when you went

583
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,200
to go reply, do you think you would have figured

584
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:21,480
it out?

585
00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:24,279
Speaker 1: Yes? I would have figured it out. Yeah, But the

586
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:28,519
power when I was caught, I mean I did talk

587
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:31,720
to them at first, and then however that worked out,

588
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,960
I could see people getting I'm very careful about I

589
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,279
would never like send people money without I'm even paranoid about.

590
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:43,119
Like sometimes I get stuff from like lab Corp. Yeah,

591
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,440
those and they'll text you you owe money, and I'm

592
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,400
always like, bitch, if you want my money, you can

593
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,680
send me a paper bills, look at it. You know

594
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,359
where I'm sending exactly exactly, or go online right.

595
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's.

596
00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:59,559
Speaker 1: Easy to scam. The one that gets you the most.

597
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,960
I don't know if if you have an account for Oh,

598
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:08,920
I got toll roads, yes, m I always get texts

599
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,720
from them going I was getting us money and you

600
00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:12,720
can just send it right here, and I'm like, no,

601
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:13,559
I don't.

602
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:15,519
Speaker 2: Yes, And Olga fell for one of those.

603
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, John almost fell for it. He was going to

604
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,839
pay it. I was like, nah, we don't owe that.

605
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:23,920
We I have our toll roads built and it's been

606
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,359
clear we don't have any outstanding balance, right.

607
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: And then I found out a lot of people were

608
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,119
getting those texts. It stopped. It was going around for

609
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,400
a while. People lose so much money to those I know.

610
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,400
And I tell you about my friend Craig who got

611
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,119
a phone call from his mother in law that she

612
00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:45,400
was her house got broken into and she was like hurt,

613
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:47,680
and that he had to. He was like, had to

614
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,400
go get her or help her and his wife. It

615
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,480
was his wife's mother. His wife was out of town. No,

616
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,079
the mother called the wife and said, the people broke

617
00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:00,839
into my house and I need you to come here

618
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,599
right away, and they want money whatever. And she freaked

619
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:07,240
out and she called Craig, her husband, who was in town,

620
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,400
and she's like, you got to go to my mom's house,

621
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,240
you know. And he was like, oh my god. And

622
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:14,319
so he gets in the car and he gets and

623
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:16,319
they called nine one one and the cops ru on

624
00:31:16,359 --> 00:31:17,960
their way and he gets there and this is the

625
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,039
cops were getting there. They were like, this isn't a scam.

626
00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:24,240
And the mom was totally fine. She was like, it

627
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:29,319
wasn't her, it was her voice. Yeah, it's insane, isn't

628
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:29,920
that crazy?

629
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, those people fall for those with their kids going

630
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:36,839
I've been kidnapped or whatever. Some money right, And his

631
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,559
wife totally fultuse it sounded like her and everything.

632
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,039
Speaker 2: It was just you know, freaked out. She was freaked out.

633
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,359
I mean, imagine how you felt like in those a

634
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,640
couple hours or whatever until you find it. Yeah, the

635
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,480
cops were just like, yeah, she's fine and they people

636
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:53,000
do this like it's ai.

637
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,319
Speaker 1: It's really easy to do. Because John did something just

638
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:00,680
to make me laugh. He pretended did he a voicemail

639
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:03,480
from one of my friends? And he did. He made

640
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,039
the voice right and just it was like just ridiculous, right,

641
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:09,400
and I fell for it for like five seconds. I

642
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,480
was like, wait what and then I realized, yeah, why

643
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:16,039
that's not on my voicemail. Why would they send the

644
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,839
voicemail to him? And he had like a recording of it,

645
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:21,160
but it sounded exactly like my friend.

646
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: So it's crazy. It's really crazy. There's apps now like

647
00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:28,799
you can take pictures and make your picture talk. You know,

648
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,279
have you seen those? There's like Glenn sends them to

649
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:34,559
me all the time, like of our friends talking like

650
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,000
saying stupid stuff and it's just the picture but then

651
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:38,640
they're talking.

652
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: You know.

653
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,359
Speaker 2: It's just so weird.

654
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: So the other night I took we finally had Albie

655
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,440
home and the twins home, so we all went out

656
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:57,559
for graduation dinner. Oh nice, yep, had they finally celebrated it.

657
00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:01,559
They were really sweet too. I I just transferred some

658
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,200
cash to each of them. I was like, happy graduation.

659
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,720
We didn't know to get you what present you would want,

660
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:08,319
So we just gave you some cash and they're all

661
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:12,359
very happy. Yeah, and then we go to the restaurant.

662
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,160
Now do you remember me telling you this story that

663
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,200
this sushi restaurant by our house, that the last time

664
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,200
we'd gone there as a family. Maybe not the last time,

665
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,160
but it was for John's birthday. And then we got

666
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,960
there and then we were sitting there and then Mauricio

667
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:31,200
walked in. Do you remember the story? Yes? Yes, And

668
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,000
I had the worst anxiety because I was trying to

669
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:39,119
tell every I was like, he walked right next to me,

670
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,559
and then he sat behind me, and all the kids

671
00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:44,759
saw that something had happened, that I'd seen somebody, and

672
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:47,079
they were like who is it? And I was like,

673
00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:51,720
what does he eat? And they were like what is what?

674
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:55,200
And I was like, they were like, who's right there?

675
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,880
And I'm like, please stop, please stop, please stop, and

676
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,319
like and I were covering Cecily Nobler and I were

677
00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:06,599
covering on Rose Pricks real househoves of Beverly Hills at

678
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:09,119
the time, and I was like, I can't, like, this

679
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:14,400
is so embarrassing. He's literally like over my shoulder behind me.

680
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,840
So then I'm and then John just keeps going what

681
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,280
is going on? And I was I started to have

682
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:26,960
like a panic attack with bad anxiety. I'm like sweating.

683
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,360
I can't I can't get it out of my head.

684
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,480
And then I'm mad at everybody. And then John was

685
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:37,719
mad that I was mad. Yeah, so I was like,

686
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,000
please stop, please stop, and then he goes, oh is it?

687
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:45,400
And I think he might have even said because he

688
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,599
was like Mauricio and I was like, oh my god,

689
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,119
you heard that. Oh I want to die. Then I

690
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:55,199
had taken a picture like over my shoulders so I

691
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:58,639
could send it to Cecily, send her the picture. Okay,

692
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:01,960
So we go there and John texts me a picture

693
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:05,920
and it's he has taken a picture of me and like,

694
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,000
whoever I'm sitting next to? I think I was sitting

695
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,079
next to Sadie. And then he put Mauricio like right

696
00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:18,239
behind me. In two seconds, using AI, he just made

697
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,920
the picture look like it was me and Sadie posed

698
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,760
with over our shoulder.

699
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, can you can post that picture? That's hilarious.

700
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: Yah, it was so funny.

701
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:30,639
Speaker 2: I love see things like that are funny, you know,

702
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,760
right right? So you guys had a good dinner.

703
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: We had a really nice dinner. It was really nice.

704
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,840
It's like, I feel like I deprived my kids of

705
00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:45,559
five people going out for sushi. I know, it was

706
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:51,559
hundreds of dollars. Our bill was three hundred dollars. What well, yeah,

707
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:57,360
five people including tip. Well, like sushi's expensive. Yeah yeah,

708
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,440
but you're like, okay, this is their graduation dinner. You know.

709
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,679
This is why we don't go out as a family

710
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:06,599
for sashi because my kids will be like, well, we

711
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:10,199
don't go out that much, so I'm gonna order so

712
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,840
when you think you're full, and when everybody's full, I

713
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,079
want to put my whole fucking family on a GLP one.

714
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,679
I kept their appetite right, They'll just be like, I

715
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,119
have room for one more. And then they're like, I'll

716
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:23,400
take another spicy salmon hand roll and why not an

717
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,840
order of equa And I'm like Jesus Christ, I know.

718
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: And sometimes like they order ahead of time to get oh, well,

719
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,880
you're gonna get this, this and that, and then it

720
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,079
all comes in. It's huge portions and it's like, who

721
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:37,800
the hell ordered all this? I know, are you gonna

722
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,079
eat that? You better eat that.

723
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm like hazing them.

724
00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:42,639
Speaker 2: By the end, of you finish your stupid like salmon.

725
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: Pulling, Adam better drink the rest.

726
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:49,679
Speaker 2: Of that exactly, exactly, Yeah, I mean it's just like

727
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,079
it's so much and it's like you guys got better

728
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,880
eating all that stuff. I know, it was really sweet

729
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,639
the other day. And like Italian Sonny, they're they're good

730
00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:00,719
with each other, like they're they're not as close as

731
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,840
I want them to be, but I find come to

732
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,840
find out that they do. You know, they talk like

733
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,519
they're not telling me all the time. And so Natalia,

734
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:11,119
I guess, was coming home from her like she went

735
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:13,800
away like sleep over at her friend's house. She's on

736
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,679
her way home and she's like she texts Sonny. So

737
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:19,119
Sonny comes to my room and he's like, can I

738
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:22,079
borrow your car? And I'm like sure, and he goes, uh,

739
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:25,199
Natalia wants in and out and I go and he goes,

740
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,960
I don't want anything, but do you want anything? I go, oh,

741
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,000
He's like I know, and he's like I don't. He's like,

742
00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:32,960
I know that you don't want anything, but do you

743
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,480
want him? Like yeah, actually I will get fuck that.

744
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:37,880
I'm gonna get a grilled cheese, no meat. Just give

745
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,360
me the grilled cheese or whatever, and he's like, okay,

746
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,280
So yeah he went and got Natalia in and out

747
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,639
for her, and I'm like, that.

748
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: Is really so.

749
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,559
Speaker 2: I tell you, I don't think she would ever do

750
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:50,239
that for him. She does other things though, like she

751
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,639
does keep in touch with him, Like she's the one

752
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:55,559
that's more like reaching out to him and like keeps

753
00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:58,639
keeps in touch. So but it was really sweet. And

754
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:00,000
then I had in and out and I was thinking

755
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:01,519
about you, and I'm like, what the fuck?

756
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: Like their fries suck? They really do.

757
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: Why do these kids love?

758
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: And it's just it's like and then I ate like

759
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,039
two three bites and I'm like, huh.

760
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: Why why did I get this? Just empty calories? You know?

761
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: The line is always five miles long. It doesn't matter

762
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,440
how Like there's so many in and outs you know

763
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,920
where we live. Yeah, I mean you can go. There's

764
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:30,159
like an INtime anytime day or night, huge line park

765
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:30,599
day night.

766
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,559
Speaker 2: There's like a lot, yeah, winding around. Yeah, Sunny Parkson

767
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:37,199
goes inside. He's like, I don't like sitting in the line,

768
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,320
but then he sits inside for like a half an hour.

769
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,599
It takes forever ever inside. Yeah, it's always crowded.

770
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 1: They prioritize the freaking line. Yeah, they prioritize the take

771
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,800
drive the drive through. Yeah, because it blocks up traffic outside.

772
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,079
Honest to god. I mean, I'm not like a McDonald's girl,

773
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,559
but McDonald's is better than in and out. And I

774
00:38:56,639 --> 00:38:59,679
don't understand there's never a line at McDonald's. No.

775
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,199
Speaker 2: I love McDonald's. Their fries are great, like a filet

776
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:05,559
of fish, you know, and I get it. On the

777
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:09,719
file of fish. I asked them to add, uh, lettuce

778
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,519
and tomato. It makes a big difference. It's really good.

779
00:39:13,039 --> 00:39:15,840
They don't usually doesn't excuse me, it doesn't usually come

780
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,679
that way anyway. Yeah, McDonald's is much better.

781
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: So Xander the other night when we went we went

782
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,360
to the grocery store to get his stuffers camping trip. Yeah,

783
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:30,679
he's not home yet, by the way, right still camping. Tuesday,

784
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,599
I was telling everybody about Xander going camping, and I

785
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,719
was life three sixtying him. So let's see, let's catch up.

786
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,360
Let's see where he is. Oh, he's back on the

787
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:48,599
one out he's driving now. Oh good, let's glad about that. Yeah, okay,

788
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,079
I guess they got everything straightened out. At that credit union.

789
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: Stop over at the credit union.

790
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,639
Speaker 1: Fuck, oh my god. Two hours come to find out

791
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,920
like she's put like she's made an account in all

792
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,760
the kid's names. Right suddenly there's like weird, like, no,

793
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,800
just put your money in here. It's fine, I'm just

794
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,719
gonna have withdraw ability. Just put me down as a

795
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:09,800
co signer on your account.

796
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 2: Give me our graduation money. Oh my god, that's so crazy.

797
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,639
Speaker 1: I know, I know. But anyway, we were grocery shopping

798
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,199
and Xander was so cute because he was like, oh,

799
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,320
we went to Trader We went to the grocery store.

800
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,000
Then we went to Trader Joe's, which I know is

801
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:29,480
the grocery store, but you know what I mean. And

802
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:32,000
Xander was like, oh, we here, we have to get this.

803
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:35,559
Sadie loves Minship ice cream. Oh. And then there were

804
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:37,320
like four other things that he was like, oh no,

805
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,159
we have to get this for Sadie. Ah. That sweet.

806
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,599
And then there was something else that he goes that

807
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:44,519
I was talking about making for dinner, and he goes, well,

808
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:46,559
I won't be here, but Sadie really likes that's what

809
00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:50,440
we get that Forsadie. That's so cute. I know, I

810
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:54,079
love that. And then and this was maybe yesterday or

811
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:58,199
the day before we came home from somewhere, and he goes,

812
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,199
I'm going to just go in Sadie's room because where

813
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,119
we have to watch a show, because they're watching Love Island.

814
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: Oh the Love Island. Oh my god.

815
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: And then I just heard so many like so much

816
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,400
hooting and hollering.

817
00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:12,679
Speaker 2: That they say they watch it together. That's so cute.

818
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:13,960
I know, it's really cute.

819
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: They like crow up in bed together.

820
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, stunny in Italian. Never in a million years, really, well,

821
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,920
Sonny's not watching Love Island. First of all. Italian's watching

822
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,440
it every night, every night in the living room. And

823
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,559
then sometimes she has her friends over and it's really

824
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:33,480
loud and they're all laughing and blah blah blah. I'm like,

825
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:35,800
all right, have fun, and Sonny's like, you know, doing

826
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,159
his thing. They I mean, they're good to each other,

827
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,519
they just don't They're totally different. They're just so different.

828
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: Well at least they are not like calling each other

829
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:48,800
losers and right, you know, yeah, yeah, scream having screaming fights.

830
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, they never really did. I mean, Sonny's not a

831
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:53,159
big fighter.

832
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: Well they did that one. They they had a little

833
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,679
period where you were concerned.

834
00:41:57,199 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: They did when they were like I think it was

835
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,280
jew you're high. Yeah, they were butting heads a lot,

836
00:42:03,559 --> 00:42:07,320
they were fighting a lot, friends coming over like yeah,

837
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,800
but now no, they're like adults get along.

838
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,519
Speaker 1: It's so crazy how long we've been doing this podcast,

839
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,760
I know, and how our kids were little kids when

840
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,679
we started kids. Yeah, with all the problems of having

841
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,119
little somebody on our thing was like what do you

842
00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:30,280
call it? If you were in the corner office before?

843
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,880
What are you now? And I'm like, I feel like

844
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,840
we're in the penthouse, right, but we have to we

845
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:36,800
still have problem.

846
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,599
Speaker 2: We're like the CEO of the company that shows up

847
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:43,199
once in a while, yeah there's an issue, but basically

848
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,800
like that, you know, you know, just letting the company

849
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:46,559
run on its own.

850
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: But then sometimes there's a problem, and they're like, we

851
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,519
got to call the CEO, right, So then we come

852
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:53,880
in and you're like, you guys could never run this

853
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:54,800
place without.

854
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 2: Me exactly, like who's picking up my prescriptions?

855
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,559
Speaker 1: The CEO's got to go and do that.

856
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: And then then it's like, okay, the company's got to

857
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,400
run on its own for a while, yes, And then

858
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,480
something comes up and the CEOs come back. Yeah, where

859
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:10,239
that's where we're at.

860
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,159
Speaker 1: There's still a lot of things that to manage, where

861
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:15,760
like like, my kids are never going to make a

862
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,960
dentist appointment for themselves, oh my god. And so they

863
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,960
haven't been to the dentist in a really long time.

864
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:23,880
I'm going to say I'm being a bad mom. I

865
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,000
have not sent my kids to the dentist because I

866
00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:28,000
was like, I mean, the same thing. I have to

867
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:30,880
send them to a different dentist because the one that

868
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,280
we used, who who saw them until they were eighteen,

869
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:38,199
because we had Obamacare, so all kids get free dental

870
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:40,400
care till they're eighteen. Right now, I got to pay

871
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,239
for it. So I don't want to pay the price

872
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,599
of the place we were going because they're super expensive, right,

873
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:47,599
so now you got to I just go to my

874
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,719
kind of shitty dentist that's in you know.

875
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny. I mane a dentist deployment for

876
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:56,400
Natalia for Wednesday tomorrow. Wait, yeah Wednesday.

877
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,039
Speaker 1: I mean I got to do it for Lbie and I.

878
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: Got to do one for Sunny too. Yeah, because I

879
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,599
thought the same thing. Just reason, I'm like, WHI the

880
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:05,440
last time you guys went to the dentist. You need

881
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,719
to go to the dentist. You're home for the summer.

882
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: I've got to find them, or help them find or

883
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,119
find let's be honest, I have to find them doctors.

884
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,760
I have to do that too. The pediatrician. That's not

885
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:16,480
just not gonna fly.

886
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: No, we got to find a new doctor too for them.

887
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:22,519
Speaker 1: I got to find a different one for Xander probably

888
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:25,400
than for like Sadie and Lbie. They need a regular GP.

889
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:27,639
But I don't. I don't know that doctor knock around. No.

890
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say doctor, I went to doctor Nagarun.

891
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,119
I have my check up, all my blood tests. Have

892
00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:35,760
not heard from him, Like, I have to call call

893
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,519
them right, call them. God, I guess everything.

894
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: Okay, So Wednesday he's gonna call you. Yes, he stayed

895
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,679
by your phone after five, after five, and it becomes

896
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,559
a thing like you're waiting to hear from Sunny at

897
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:50,360
the camp site, like you're getting a satellite call for

898
00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:53,480
but it doesn't come and it never happens. It's never that.

899
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 2: I know. They've done that to me a million times.

900
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,559
Speaker 1: You got to wait a little bit. Then you've got

901
00:44:57,559 --> 00:44:59,639
to call I'm going to call them today and then

902
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:01,719
you have to to say, hey, I really want my

903
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,360
results right, and then he'll call you.

904
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:07,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Yeah, doctor knock around's not the doctor for

905
00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:08,119
the kids.

906
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I got to do the same. So, like, who

907
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,280
do who do we get?

908
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:13,079
Speaker 2: I don't know.

909
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna maybe. I don't know.

910
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: Well, now we're moving, so I don't know where do

911
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:19,800
we get a doctor out there?

912
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, you gotta wait. Yeah, so I don't know.

913
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:27,800
Although it doesn't really matter. They need to see the doctor.

914
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,679
They are not going to need to go for another year,

915
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,920
so it doesn't necessarily need to be inside Clarita.

916
00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:35,639
Speaker 2: It just yeah, I don't know.

917
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. They'll they'll use telehealth. They just

918
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:42,760
have to have somebody to check in with and probably

919
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:48,239
do blood work once year. Mine's gonna need the meningitis

920
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,559
shot to go to go to school. Oh okay, they

921
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:52,440
need the one.

922
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 2: Voctus Oh yeah yeah, yeah, three they need it.

923
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: And then they three weeks later they have to get

924
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,199
it again before they can go way to school.

925
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah I remember that. Yeah, my kids did that.

926
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,199
Speaker 1: Anyway, all right, you guys, let's say hi to our friends.

927
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,760
Dick is frolicking and make you call your girl, and

928
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,639
Elizabeth Williamson's got what did we even do the names

929
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,119
on Tuesday's show. I don't think we did. Alza Williams,

930
00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:20,119
he's got a lot of kids. Let's say her name twice.

931
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,360
Williamson's got a lot of kids. Rita's rocking them in

932
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,239
her bassiete. Polly, we love your pancakes. Valerie kits it

933
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,599
out of the park, Katerina check the moler speaking of Yeah,

934
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:34,760
she's got a dentist, Yeah, sure she does, and an

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endo dentist and you know what it's called, you know, yeah,

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and the Donnis, I don't know whatever. Gabby and Missy.

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Speaker 2: Orthodonic h Yeah, Gabby and Missy you know, you know

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what they're up to.

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Speaker 1: Shan Rebecca new so cute. Kelly Brandt, she's your aunt.

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Alicia Escablante, City of Belle Monte, Leslie the Aaron's a

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dirty Sanchez Deandra not easy being green, but.

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Speaker 2: It looks good on you.

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Speaker 1: Chris to gets trapped. Katie's rolling on the e. I

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want to say hi to our friend Tara Diamond too.

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She's going through a slightly tough time, So Tara Diamond,

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cool love you. Tara, love you. She's one of the moderators. Yes,

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in our Facebook group.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, we love you, Tara.

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Speaker 1: We do.

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Speaker 2: We're thinking about Adam's got a car. Adam is helping

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me get a car, right now, get a car for Sonny.

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Speaker 1: You know the deal, go to Adam. All right. We

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love you guys, thank you for being here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't fuck it up.

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Speaker 1: It's good.