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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice.

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Speaker 2: Mix in some vodka. Call it a podcast from the

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Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by

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Speaker 1: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oil. Hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pod on,

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Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the

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word about the BIRS ship. I got an email about

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some radio segments we had done and somebody said they

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enjoyed listening to it. And oh, by the way, I

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represent this guy known as the Dadbod veteran. I had

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seen the Dad Bod Veteran on TikTok. His name is

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John Wellington, and I I didn't realize he had an

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Instagram and a YouTube and a Facebook and all this stuff.

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But this is a former Navy guy and he's now

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part of a gen X Takeover comedy tour. And just

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because of this device right here, this dumb little phone,

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he's become a star because he knew how to use

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it right. And I love these kind of conversations. And

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he is a gen X guy, and I think that

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being a gen X guy myself, we probably have a

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few things in common.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe maybe just a few things.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm probably older than you are.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. The beard gives me a little bit

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of grace, but maybe.

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Speaker 2: I am fifty four. I was born in Si Yeah,

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you just.

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Speaker 1: Got me by a couple forty six. I'm a baby

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gen X.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my brother is uh then would be around your

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age as well. But talk to me about this because

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I always think it's it's funny when people have real

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job and then they go into entertainment because you were

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Do you understand what I'm saying like this.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I am a firm believer in everything

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you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's like they you were probably putting shells into

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I don't know, artillery somewhere right on a ship, making

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sure shit, but the shit could blow up. Who knews

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what sticky situation you were going to be in. And oh,

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by the way, now you're on a comedy tour and

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I go to me, that's the greatest thing in the world.

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It's the one of the reasons our country is great

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is because you can do, or be or have anything

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you really want. And yet at the same time, I

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think it makes you appreciate probably where you are now

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more than anybody could imagine.

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Speaker 1: God, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, First of all, this

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is the dumbest thing in the world. To the fact

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that you can take this and turn your life around

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because you spend too much time on it and you

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have too much free time is insane. I mean, growing

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up from our generation that that not possible, right, But

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yet here we are, and it's exactly that. You know,

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I did my time in the Navy, and I was

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in New York Harbor in nine to eleven, and then

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I went into the corporate world and I've been in

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the corporate world for twenty years now. And then all

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of a sudden, because I was at home and board

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and I started making videos on my porch, it turned

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into this and now I'm doing a stand up comedy career,

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which I've been doing stand up comedy for a total

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of one year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: First time that I did it was with these guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So it's insane, all right. I feel like we're

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jumping a little ahead, but that's okay, because I want

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to talk about how that kind of came to be.

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And for someone who's never done stand up, like I

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will say to me, stand up. Comedy is the ultimate

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art form. And I say that because when you have

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a band and somebody fucks up, I can play. You know,

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somebody can cover a note, somebody can cover somebody's pitchiness.

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Right when it's stand up, it's you a microphone and

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you know what I'm saying, And that's whoom right. And

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so I remember being in New York City walking through

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Soho and you know, people trying to make it in

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the comedy world are just looking for stage time all

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the time. Well, they were literally pulling people off the

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street and putting them in the audience. And some of

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the people were writers for the Chris Rock Show, the

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HBO show at the time and all this stuff. So

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you had talented people. I gotta tell you, man, no

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one was laughing. People were walking out. They weren't there

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to see comedy. So right there, that's the toughest. And

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I go, if you could get them to laugh, you're

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gonna be great. You're gonna be fine. And so I think,

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for you, I go, what was that like the first

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time you step on stage? And obviously it's an audience

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that's already familiar with you, which really does help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that definitely helps. We first of all, we

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never intended to have this happen. We recited as no,

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we didn't. We were four creators who didn't know each

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other in person, and we just said, let's go to

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Nashville and let's go hang out together. So we thought

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we were gonna, you know, run an Airbnb, eat Bond Bonds,

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watch rom Comms, paint or toenails, and then you know,

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go walk the street and hang out with some of

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our people. That was the intent of it all. But

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our wives got involved and they were like, no, no, no,

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we're not going to pay for this, so we're gonna

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pimp you out. So they called the local comedy club.

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And one of us, Nick had done comedy before.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, he does a lot of music stuff, music

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related stuff on and.

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Speaker 1: His lifelong dream has always been to be a stand

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up comedian. That's always been his thing, okay, and so

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he was experienced in it, and the other three of

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us had never done it before. And you know, they

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came back and they said, hey, we booked a comedy

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club and you're going to do stand up comedy. And

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the three of us are like, what the what does

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that mean?

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Speaker 2: So who's who whose wife do you blame for this?

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Was it? I'm thinking it's yours?

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Speaker 1: Uh, It's it's mostly Nick and Nick's next wife and

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then Sherry's wife are really the head honchos who are

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to blame. Luckily, mine's kind of passive in this whole situation.

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conversation about the tour, but she was not really involved

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in all that. She was a supporting spouse at that point.

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And so we booked a comedy club. We go online

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and just the four of us, we promote it and

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it's a small hundred seater and poof, we sell it

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out in an hour. They were like, oh okay. So

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we call the comedy club. We say, hey, can we

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do another one the same day? And they're like, sure,

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we got yours the whole afternoon. So we book another

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one and we sold that one out in a day.

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So at this point we have two sold out comedy

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shows at a small venue in Nashville for a bunch

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of people who don't know what the hell are doing

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except for one. And then we decide we say, well,

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let's have an after party on top of that. So

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we rent out this place called Pins mechanical in Nashville.

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And we sell tickets to that separately, and six hundred

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people buy tickets. Wow, and we're like, what the hell?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, but it's how amazing, how what a what

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a cool validation of all the stuff that you're doing,

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you know what I mean. Yeah, you talk into a camera,

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you think you're alone, and nobody gives a flying crap

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about you, and then all of a sudden, six hundred

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people in a just throw a dart at a map

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in a city, right, and we'll say it's Nashville. And yeah,

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by the way, Nashville's a lot of shit to do,

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you know what I'm saying. There's a lot of stuff

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to do. There's a lot of choices for your entertainment dollar.

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The fact that they want to spend it with you,

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I think, speaks volumes that should make you, all of

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you feel so great about what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: It validates or invalidates the imposter syndrome because we all

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have it. Sure, you know, we all come from different

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backgrounds and different histories of life. And you know, me

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a veteran and Sharry a business person, and Kelly is

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the person that she's been in a radio talent and Nick,

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of course, with everything that he's done, it definitely invalidates

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that imposter senior. But you know it started there and

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that first time that we did it, we were all

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going to throw up on each other in the back.

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I mean that's for the three of us. We were

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just like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm doing this,

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had no idea what I was doing.

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Speaker 2: Went up.

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Speaker 1: I threw a set out that I thought was good,

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you know flashbacks. It wasn't good, but they laughed, and

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you know, we decided to do another one up in Cleveland.

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We sold that out at a dueling piano bar. This

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is great. Two hundred and fifty people.

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Speaker 2: Where's let me interrupt real quick, Where's home for you?

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Speaker 1: Charleston, South Carolina? Which is actually our next show coming

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up October twenty sixth. Well, we got a Seattle show

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and then we got a Charleston show. But we're doing

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twenty three hundred seat venues now in less than a year.

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Speaker 2: That's incredible because you know, theaters having done stand up.

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you know what I mean. So if you've ever been

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to like the comedy Seller in New York is a

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great room to see, right, but those other places are great.

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I think that's amazing and it's got to feel really

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good for you. Talk to me about the in the Evolution.

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I'll always say, one of the greatest things in life

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is reps. Right, the more reps you do at something,

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the better you get at it. So you know, for

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you with comedy, have you had people writing for you? You're

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doing all your own writing. You're doing it all.

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Speaker 1: I do all my own writing. It's all life experience.

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It's a lot of self deprecation on my side. I mean,

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I know I have watched comedians forever, sure, and I

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resonate towards the storytellers like Berg Kreischer and those folks

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that tell stories that aren't just a one liner. So

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most of my content is, you know, story based. A

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lot of it is picking on my kids, and you know,

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they all know that they're all set up for that.

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my own stuff. I have a little karaoke machine and

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the Missus and I Before every show, we sit in

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the living room and she listens to my whole set.

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She times me, she gives me feedback, cut this out,

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do that, do that, and then when we get to

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you know, show times, it's game time and we just

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walk out on the field and throw a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: How much? How much time are you doing?

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Speaker 1: We're just doing twenty minute sets. Yeah, fore it's get

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at twenty minute set.

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Speaker 2: But that's a lot, right, and especially for someone who

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a middle act in most comedy clubs. I think that's

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really impressive. You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the best things I think that's happening in

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this scenario is that the three of us don't know

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what the hell we're doing. So when you say stuff

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like that to us, we're like, oh, yeah, I didn't

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know that. No, I mean, we don't greatest, we don't

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have that baseline to understand how this world works. We're

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all just doing it to the way that we think

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it should be done. And I think that's part of

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what going on here with us is by the fact

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that we break all the rules. We've got four balanced headliners,

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plus we have a musical component, Plus we have other

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interactive things that we do at the show that get

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the crowd engaged with us as a group. You know,

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we have skits and it's more of a variety show

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than just a comedy show. But the fact that we've

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broken all the rules of how this is supposed to

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work has attracted some attention from some people really high

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up that are now calling and saying, hey, we want

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you to come to our venue. We'll let you go

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to this, that and the other thing. And we're also older,

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and we're like, no, we don't want to be on

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the road twenty four to seven. We'll do one or

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and they're all so it's really it's like a shift

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in the dynamic, at least from our perspective, that's caused

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ripples through the industry, an industry that we have no

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clue about. And we also don't care because you know,

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we know that this thing's got legs for a period

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of time and then we're either going to get too

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old to do it, or you know, we're not going

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to be cool anymore. And so we're just enjoying it

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as long as it lasts and take it wherever it

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takes us.

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Speaker 2: I think that's uh the best attitude to have with it, right,

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because you're right, nothing kind of lasts forever, uh, And

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you're not taking it too seriously where you know the

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these I mean, god, you want to hang out with

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real comics, they're some of the most depressing, sad, uh neurotic,

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narcissistic assholes you'll ever be around. And so to be

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able to just go, yeah, we're this is what we're doing,

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and this is how we're gonna do it. And I

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also think being I'll say naive, I guess, but everybody,

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everybody who's ever done anything, if they knew the rules

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along the way, they probably wouldn't have made it.

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Speaker 1: Right, you know what I mean. And it's had to

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start out with it with a zero baseline exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I always say, and the guys would get annoyed

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with me. There's other guys on the on the podcast

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now here at the moment, but I always say, the

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barrier to entry is gone. It's gone. I don't need, right,

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I don't need the corporate people anymore. You just need this, yes,

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And I think what you've really proven is that if

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you I don't know, if you got a talent, you're

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a storyteller, you get out there and you do it.

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That that's the thing. Give me how that that began?

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you had to start early if you're and then I

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knew you were an empty nester.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So so my first kid was at eighteen, as

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a lot of South Carolinians do, from the type of

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area that I'm from, and I joined the Navy directly after,

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well actually before the kid was even born. It's my

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twenty seven year old daughter. And uh, you know, I've

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got three with my first wife, and then two that

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joined the family from my missus dad bod and so

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five total, and the two youngest of my natural born

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kids are twins. And I, like I said, you know,

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I've been a father since I was eighteen. And then

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when it came to empty nest time, the last one

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to leave, which was kind of my best friend, was

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a little traumatic to me. I didn't take empty nesting

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very well because I'd been a father my whole life.

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Everything I did, all my decisions were based on my kids.

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It wasn't based on what I want, you know, And

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here I am facing what the heck am I going

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to do with the rest of my life? So got

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a little bummed out, got a little depressed. It not

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gonna lie about that. But I started shifting my mentality

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to what's next in my life that I care about

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because I personally don't care about career. I personally don't

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care about, you know, all the things in the world.

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I care about my family. So every decision I've made

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has been towards them. So I started thinking about my grandkids.

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And so when I started thinking about that, I started

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playing around with social media because I had never done

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it before, and I said, wouldn't it be cool if

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I could create this library of videos for my grandkids

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to tell them what the world was like when I

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was a kid from my perspective, wouldn't it be cool

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if I did it in a voice that I would

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like to hear stories from. Yeah, And that's where it started.

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Was I was originally just telling stories with this voice

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that I would have loved to hear stories from, to

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create a library of videos for my grandkids. And then

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the whole world liked it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: The first one to really take off was after I

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had been doing the stories of my own, people started

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asking me and say, hey, what does the dadbod think

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about this? And it was a video of a kid

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asking how pieces were delivered before GPS.

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Speaker 2: I saw that. I know that video. I do know

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that one.

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Speaker 1: And that's the first video I think.

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Speaker 2: I think of that video every time I use my GPS,

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because I don't I've looked at a map, I haven't

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done anything I can get anywhere on the planet. Now

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I go, boy, you want to talk about Everybody's like,

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I don't want to lose my freedom. I go, every

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time you're being tracked, you lost your freedom. You asked

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whole You don't even.

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Speaker 1: Realize it, but you're you're codependent on your latch.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I did it today. I had a meeting.

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I didn't know where I was going at GPS. That's

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so funny that it was very interesting. And then I

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think there were some other ones that I saw.

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Speaker 1: Just snowballed after that. Yeah, I mean, everybody started throwing

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me and there's a videos like what do you think

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about this? What do you think about this? And that's

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where it turned, is to this reaction bit of me

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reacting to whatever scenario was put in front of me

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that people were sending to me. I didn't have to

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search for the content. It was in my box there,

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so it was like the self feeding thing. Yeah, and

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I had a lot of time on my hand.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me about the character voice. Do you use

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that on stage or you talk like I was surprised

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when I heard your voice, and I wanted it to see.

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So I sought you out on another podcast and I

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was listening for a little bit and you had popped

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on and I was like, oh, wow, you have a

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really pleasant speaking voice. By that other voice, I would

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never have associated I actually you have watched your videos

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at one point tried to see if you were dubbing

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it in some way, like with your lips syncing to

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somebody else's book. I couldn't. I go, that's an amazing

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like it that voice I just never expected to come

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out of you.

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Speaker 1: It's hilarious because when I started doing ads for sponsors

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and stuff like that, and they would want me to

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do it in my natural voice because they wanted me

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to be serious. And when I did that, people would

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send them to me and be like, look, they're doing

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an AI version of you with this voice. I'm reporting

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it and I'm like, no, no, no, that's actually me.

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And it's over the past probably the past year that

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I've been trying to massage it two different because I

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have a lot of voices in my head. I'm just

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going to put it out there now. It's always been

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a thing that I've done since I'm a kid. Is

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I love to imitate voices of different accents, et cetera.

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This one just happened to stick with everybody, and I've

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tried to change it. I've tried to introduce new voices

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in my content and people are like, no, I don't

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like it, so I go back to what works. But

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in the show, up until the last show, I did

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not do the voice at all. Okay, but we now

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have a bit that I do with Kelly that I

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do a narration for part of her comedy skit, and

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so I kind of just step on stage and narrate

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something that's going on.

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Speaker 2: In Oh Okay.

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Speaker 1: The voice is kind of a David Attenborough style.

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Speaker 2: They must the audience, it's just all they.

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Speaker 1: They went wild. They went wild because it's absolutely hilarious.

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I'm not going to give it away, but it is

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an absolutely hilarious bit on its own. And then you

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throw it, throw me on top of it, and the

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voice on top of it. It is just a beautiful cake.

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Beautiful Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How fun is that too? Yeah? You know, everything in

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life has started with an idea that somebody had in

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their head, right, whether it be a building or a

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road or whatever. But for a guy who has had

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his first kid at eighteen, that had to grow up

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real fat. And then and on top of that, I

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would even say doing some military service is another You're

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gonna grow up real fast. I mean, there's no bullshit here.

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Speaker 1: It's the same time.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's it's like holy, I mean, your life.

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You just think about this several months prior to all

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that you were in high school, I would assume.

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Speaker 1: No, two weeks okay, two weeks after I graduated high school.

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Speaker 2: This is what I mean. Okay, so a couple right,

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and then and when did you know that you were

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having the kid while you were still in high school?

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Speaker 1: When I was in boot camp? First phone call, holl okay,

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I it was a graduation present. Yeah, to say it

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that way, So graduation, you know, Yeah, and then uh,

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we didn't know until after I got to boot camp.

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And I mean my first phone call home she was crying.

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I was like, what are you crying about? She goes, oh,

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by the way, and I go ooh, that's cool.

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Speaker 2: You said that.

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Speaker 1: No, I seriously, I was like, I was like totally,

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because you know, I've always been a kind of a

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family guy. Sure, and so I here, here I am.

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And you know, she wasn't exactly happy about it, but

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we had a good twelve year marriage out of it,

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and we're still best friends.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, how was how were your parents and her parents?

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I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 1: Back to, like, you know, my parents, my parents, my

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dad had already passed, but my mom was like totally

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a static because she's like, I got grandkids.

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Speaker 2: Fine, yeah, yeah, I was the.

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Speaker 1: First one to have grandkids out of me and my siblings.

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Speaker 2: Her mom.

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Speaker 1: Her mom believes and still believes that all things are

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meant to happen. Okay, you know, whatever happens is meant

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to happen, right, so with that, you can be happy

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about the situation, right because that was something that was

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supposed to happen. So they both took it very positively

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and again we're still friends of this day. And you

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know you grew up I did Charleston, South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: There is no accent.

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Speaker 1: I mean there can be. There gonna be an accent.

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If I want to go, I can turn it on off.

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It just depends on who I'm talking to.

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Speaker 2: I think there was a radio station down there. Is

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there something called the twin something or the duel or

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like two frequencies, because it's maybe they were more out

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on the coasts. I don't know. I was on a

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bunch of their stations for iHeart back in the day,

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and I just remember reading you. They would send you

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liners and stuff, and so you have to talk about

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these towns like you live there, you know what I mean.

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And I always thought this is this is the death

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of radio right here. This is the death. You cannot

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homogenize this shit, and you know, just all of it.

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And then of course the other stuff is I'll seek

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out my entertainment the way I like it. And I

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love that people from the gen X have found you guys.

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And I don't know, man, you got such a cool,

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calming way about you that it doesn't seem like you're easy,

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easily flustered at all.

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Speaker 1: No I've been accused of being the adultiest one in

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our group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the one who plans everything out and make

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sure all the things are laid out. Yeah, it's just

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it's just the way I am. Maybe it's the Navy.

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Maybe it's just you know, having so many damn kids,

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is I got to make sure everything's laid out.

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Speaker 2: De risk Yeah and d risked. So how did this

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come together? For the the gen X takeover? Right? With

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the professor and the real what was it? The real

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slim Kelly? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm sorry, but the real I won't tell her.

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Speaker 2: Please don't do that. But I'm such a fan. I

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how does that come together? Right? Because here again is

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people from different parts of the country normally when right

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and you all come together and you've built this mini empire. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Sherry's in Atlanta, Kelly's in Saint Louis. Nick is

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in New Orleans. Uh. Sherry and Nick had gone to

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the Cheer Choice Awards the year before, which is like

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the Emmys, if you will, for social media creators. It's

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it's in Vegas. They had gone to that. I didn't

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go to that, and I guess they had a discussion

474
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,920
about you know we should do some type of event,

475
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,880
creator event, et cetera. And so Sherry and I have

476
00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:12,119
never met before this point, but we have very parallel

477
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,880
pass We started out almost exactly the same time. Our

478
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,119
growth was almost the same trajectory where Nick and Kelly

479
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,960
had been in the social media for a lot longer

480
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,400
than we had. So we had DMed back and forth

481
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,759
a couple of times just to chat it up, and

482
00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:29,119
then one day she sent me a thing and said, hey,

483
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,640
you want to do this, And I'm like, sure. I'm

484
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,799
in the business of not saying no to anything right now,

485
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,240
because I believe right now at this point that the

486
00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:39,599
world will say no for me if it's not supposed

487
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,200
to be done, like either I won't have enough money

488
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,160
or I won't have time, So I'd just say yes.

489
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,759
I said yes, and you know then, you know, between

490
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,279
the time that I said yes and the time that

491
00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:50,960
we actually got to Nashville, all the wives got involved

492
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,079
in that transpired. It didn't really turn into this huge

493
00:23:55,079 --> 00:23:59,079
thing until after Cleveland, because after Cleveland we realized we

494
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,640
had something we legitimately. Now now we've gone to two states,

495
00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:07,759
completely separate, completely different demos, and people were raving about it,

496
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,240
and also we started to get some people calling us

497
00:24:10,279 --> 00:24:14,640
that would not normally contact us, and so we said, okay,

498
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,359
let's make a tour and let's just do a couple

499
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,240
of cities just to try it out. So we tried

500
00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:22,279
Atlanta next, and in Atlanta was when we brought on

501
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,480
probably one of the biggest catalysts to this thing growing,

502
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,319
which is our tour manager, Reuben Buck out of Seattle.

503
00:24:30,079 --> 00:24:34,039
Ruben is very very intimate in the comedy scene. In fact,

504
00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:37,039
him and Donald Rawlings and Dave Chappelle are actually very

505
00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:39,880
tight together. He's every time I talk about a comedian,

506
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000
he pulls out his phone and he goes, oh, you

507
00:24:42,039 --> 00:24:44,279
mean this guy, and it's his phone number. And I'm like,

508
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,400
like neighbor, Gatzi and Bert, and you know, I was like, oh,

509
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,240
how does this dude know all these people? And so

510
00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:54,200
he jumped on board because he had heard about it

511
00:24:54,319 --> 00:24:57,920
up in Seattle and he's he's a he's a very

512
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,799
early gen exer, you know, he's almost you know, sixty

513
00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:03,519
one now, Oh my god, and so he wanted to

514
00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:05,200
be part of it. Yeah, because he's, you know, he's

515
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,000
on his downslope. He's like, let me do one last

516
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,960
cool thing that I think has legs, and so as

517
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,640
soon as he went in there, he came in and

518
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,440
grabbed that, and he's like, Okay, we need to do this, this,

519
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,559
this and this, and we're all like, I don't know

520
00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:17,279
what you're doing, but let's do it. So we brought

521
00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:21,200
in Justin Rupple, the Millennial, who is our host, who

522
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:23,400
was a voice actor for How to Train the Dragon.

523
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,480
Then we've also got Jojo Malagar who's now our musical component,

524
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,640
who's on stage with us the whole time. You know,

525
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,160
he does all the sound cues, et cetera, and it

526
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,680
turned it into a production. He also got a relationship

527
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,799
with our booking agent who has brought all the venues

528
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:43,599
that we've got casinos and things, the same guys that

529
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,119
do Vanilla Ice and Lodacris and the Isle of Nineties tour.

530
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,079
So there's some future potential integrations with Vanilla Ice and

531
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,200
some things coming up that you know, would be really awesome.

532
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,799
And yeah, it's it's just like we've already got twenty

533
00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:02,039
twenty seven or twenty twenty six almost out, and there's

534
00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:05,119
a potential twenty twenty seven talk. I mean, this is

535
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,559
the dumbest thing I've ever been a part of. But

536
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:07,519
I'm so happy to be here.

537
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 2: I gotta think it's it's probably one of the coolest things.

538
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,279
And I think your attitude of just say yes and

539
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,559
I'll call it the universe, you call it the world,

540
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,920
We'll let you know. And I think that that is

541
00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:24,400
the way you need to live. I think we should

542
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,880
all sort of live that way. We can't, right, especially

543
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,720
when you know you had five kids in a navy

544
00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:35,359
career and corporate career, whatever. But the uh, I think

545
00:26:35,519 --> 00:26:39,839
you open yourself up to possibilities and sometimes you know,

546
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:45,359
I always go, there's two things in the world. It's fear, right, anxiety.

547
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,599
All this shit is all fear based. All that stuff

548
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,440
is just fear, and the other is love. And so

549
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,039
where are you gonna go? And when it's just going?

550
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,440
I love it. I love entertaining. I love telling the stories.

551
00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:58,759
This has I mean, it's like mind boggling and I

552
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:01,440
got it. Well it has to be because I look,

553
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,559
I did thirty years on the radio, I write, I

554
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:06,160
did all this stuff. I did a lot of FM

555
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,359
talk I was around. This is to me the coolest.

556
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,119
I love that it's organic. You've made a connection with

557
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,319
people All people want is a connection and to feel

558
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,079
like they matter, and you've built something cool and I got.

559
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,920
I think that's amazing. My question for you is five kids,

560
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,279
how do they react to this?

561
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,599
Speaker 1: So initially they were like what are you doing? In fact,

562
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,480
it's kind of funny. Is the youngest kid, the one

563
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,599
who went to boot camp, knew nothing about this whole

564
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,200
thing while he was in boot camp. And there was

565
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,480
a huge trajectory that occurred while he was in boot camp.

566
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,759
And then when he got out of boot camp and

567
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:47,000
I went up to his graduation, he said I told

568
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:49,839
him about it. He says, yeah, yeah, whatever, You're not anybody.

569
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,920
I was like, okay, but just hold on a second.

570
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,759
And so I went outside and he was getting out

571
00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:57,680
released from his little boot camp thing to come spend

572
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,960
the afternoon with us, and I'm sitting there waiting out

573
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:03,880
side of the front gate, and it was I just

574
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,680
remember the look on his eyes. He got out and

575
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,599
we're hugging and we're saying our thing. We were about

576
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:11,000
to walk to the car. One of his drill sergeants

577
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:14,880
walks up to me and says, are you the dad bod?

578
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:17,480
And he shakes my hand, and but the look on

579
00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:20,720
my son's face was hilarious. He went, I'm not kidding

580
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,079
this true story. He went white and he says a

581
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,559
drill sergeant and he's like, hey, are you a son.

582
00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:28,200
He's like yeah, he said, well you got a cool

583
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,480
dad here. I mean, it was just he didn't know

584
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:33,160
how to handle. And then after that he goes, Dad,

585
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:33,799
what happened?

586
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: What happened?

587
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: While I was like, dude, I told you something happened.

588
00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:43,640
It was a little awkward for most of them, but

589
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,119
now they're all like totally on board.

590
00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: Effect.

591
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:49,559
Speaker 1: A little while ago, I had a lot, a large

592
00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:52,240
bit for one of my kids that that I call

593
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:55,519
him the FAFO Boy. And he's the one that went

594
00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:57,839
into the Navy and he's boomerang back and he's living

595
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,000
at home with us and he's going to the college

596
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,960
right now, and I call him the FAFO Boy. So

597
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,279
I did a whole thing with sitting out dowry applications

598
00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:09,920
to try to help him get a date, to try

599
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,720
to wet him out, get rid of him. Has it

600
00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:14,960
worked very well, but they've all totally embraced it. They

601
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,759
all totally love it, and they all love being a

602
00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:18,519
part of it, and they're all bragging up their dad.

603
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,680
And my daughter's in Arkansas. She works at a hotel.

604
00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:24,680
She's like talking to their social media manager and said, hey,

605
00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:26,559
let's get my dad to come here. And they're like,

606
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:28,279
who's your dad And they're like, oh my god, that's

607
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:31,960
your dad. So they all love it, and I'm happy

608
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,519
for them that I can be something for them, you know.

609
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,799
I tell them all, I'm like, look, amused the crap

610
00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:38,839
out of it. It's not going to last forever. If

611
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,599
you want a name drop, name drop, I don't care.

612
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,799
However you benefit yourself from this scenario that we've got

613
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,400
run with it.

614
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the greatest attitude of all that, you know,

615
00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:53,359
being a gen X. And we often joke about, you know,

616
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,079
drink from the hose and ran around and didn't know

617
00:29:58,119 --> 00:30:00,039
we could get a hold of you till streetlights. I

618
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:03,359
always think nowadays. I had a friend who used to

619
00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:07,039
go the greatest time to leave alive was to be

620
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:09,559
a white man in the fifties because you could just

621
00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:11,440
disappear and no one would find you, and no one

622
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,119
gave his shit. You went to work, he left, I

623
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,519
had a two cocktail lunch and didn't go back. Your

624
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:20,079
wife didn't know where you are. I mean, like you

625
00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:22,480
think of that and you look now, and I go.

626
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,440
I got my fifteen year old son lives with me.

627
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,119
My older guys are want to be twenty five next week,

628
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,759
and ones in grad school's a little bit youngers in

629
00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:36,759
his twenty three, mid twenty, early twenties. But my fifteen

630
00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:39,880
year old tracks me everywhere I go and ask me.

631
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,519
And I'm driving by a place he goes. You go

632
00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:45,599
to a bar, and I'm like, oh my god, I

633
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,839
couldn't imagine, but saying that to my old man. My

634
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,039
old man used to come home and he would buy

635
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:54,240
Manhattan's made for two and then he would drink it.

636
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:57,039
And the fight between my parents was, it's always cocktails

637
00:30:57,079 --> 00:30:59,599
for two, but it's for one. Was my mother screaming

638
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,279
at him, like that was the ship, and like I

639
00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:04,519
would take off of my bike. You would drive three

640
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:07,799
miles into town and no one, no one.

641
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:08,599
Speaker 1: No one cared.

642
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,359
Speaker 2: And I don't know that they didn't care, but I go, boy,

643
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:14,599
it was the freedom you had as a kid. It

644
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,200
was nice. It was nice. Where now it's like, I

645
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,400
feel like it's somewhat overbearing. I think that we live

646
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,559
in such a fear thing because I used to say,

647
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:28,440
and I got my my ex wife, we get very

648
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:31,000
upset with me, but I would be you know, we

649
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:32,400
got to protect the kids, and you gotta keep it

650
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,319
out on the people grab I go, yeah, I know

651
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,920
of no kid that personally ever that was stranger abducted.

652
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,880
I don't know them. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't happen. I'm

653
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,960
just saying, I don't know.

654
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:45,759
Speaker 1: Back when we were there, it's milk cart and kids,

655
00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:47,720
you know, yeah, and there are dozens of them.

656
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly, and you know, okay, so there was

657
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,440
that sort of thing. But I'm trying to think, like

658
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,119
in between, it feels like and my kid will say

659
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,319
to me, you think we're soft, and I don't think

660
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:06,839
you're I don't want to say that word, right, I won't.

661
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,400
I try, I try, I try. Yes, but do you

662
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,960
understand what I'm saying, Like, what happened to a little

663
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,920
bit of grit and a little bit of dirt and

664
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:19,240
a little bit of whatever? Do we make it too easy?

665
00:32:19,559 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: I think it was well, well it became well, okay,

666
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,200
so there was I think there was a time where

667
00:32:24,279 --> 00:32:28,839
where the the grit became abuse. That was one factor,

668
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,200
is that there's a lot of sensitivity towards how people

669
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,480
handle their children today versus yesterday. That culture has caused

670
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,839
that to be unacceptable, not necessarily bad.

671
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,119
Speaker 2: I get that. I mean I remember when the Dagoski

672
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,000
twins came in to school and one of them had

673
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,480
their dad's handprint still across his face, allegedly from the

674
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:50,079
night before because they were wrestling and he hurt his dad.

675
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember my parents went to they went

676
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,279
to teaching. They went to parentings class to learn how

677
00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:59,960
to spank appropriately. They went to a class to make

678
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,480
and no, this is true, this is a true story.

679
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,200
Is after they went to parenting class, me and my

680
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,680
brother were fighting one day and so their parenting class

681
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,279
said you can still spank them, but you need to

682
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:11,519
spank them appropriately. So our appropriate spanking was we had

683
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,759
to put our hands on each other's shoulders and look

684
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:15,960
each other's in the eyes while the parents spank both

685
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:20,200
us at the same time. It was but it was lessened, right,

686
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,000
it was structured. It was structured. They'd be like, Okay,

687
00:33:23,359 --> 00:33:25,640
this is what's going to happen. Do you understand why? Yeah,

688
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,519
I understand why this is going to happen. It sucks

689
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,920
there's no crying. It was all just it was all

690
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:34,119
very structured and deliberate and all that stuff because that's

691
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:35,880
what the world had told them they needed to do.

692
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,200
And so there was the evolution. And now that evolution

693
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:41,759
didn't stop at some point, and we've gotten to the

694
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:44,279
point where that's not even okay anymore. And so there's

695
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:47,119
no you know, fear of the rod spoiled kid kind

696
00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:51,680
of situation going on. And then you throw social media

697
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:57,160
and it where everything is publicized everything, and so there's

698
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,240
a lot of criticism towards parents being parents, and school

699
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:03,920
systems don't help because you know, they'll come and call

700
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,680
the teacher. I just I saw a beautiful bit on

701
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,880
TikTok just a minute ago before I get jomped on here.

702
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,639
This guy was making fun of him getting called out

703
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:15,440
on the carpet by the principal when his kid came

704
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,320
to school and said that he laid hands on him.

705
00:34:18,519 --> 00:34:20,719
And he, you know, he was like, I just disciplined

706
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,480
my kid. He's like, yeah, but the kid was crying

707
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:24,320
and this and that the other, and it was absolutely

708
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,559
hilarious because it's so true. I could see that actually happening.

709
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,559
Is that a parent gets called out on the carpet

710
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:32,840
by the kid because he disciplined him. And that's where

711
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,039
the I think the shift happened. And that's where the

712
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,920
inability to have that grit, as you say, is gone.

713
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: Right.

714
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: There's there's no opportunity to give your kid grit or

715
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,679
do any of those things that would cause their kid

716
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,760
to be exposed to something that's hard.

717
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:51,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, difficult, No that okay. So that that's a that's

718
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:54,280
a really good way you put it. I will say that,

719
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:59,719
like my youngest kid is I would I used to

720
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,840
read for the growing up as a feral kid kind

721
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,199
of both my parents worked and I said Farrell and

722
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,320
I meant that more as a joke. But he's a

723
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,960
bit of a feral guy. And when his mom and

724
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,960
I separated, he wound up living in the South in Alabama.

725
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:15,920
And he came back and there was a days going

726
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,119
can I have some money? Can I have some money?

727
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:20,719
I'm like, buddy, that is so all of a sudden,

728
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,880
we live in this nice area and there's a no

729
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:30,519
solicitation rule. I get a call from the the h

730
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:35,519
O A or whatever that he's been going around saying

731
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,679
he's raising money for a basketball team. That doesn't exist,

732
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,440
and I that was I mean, I had to put

733
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,480
a stop to it. I had to, like really, but

734
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:47,039
there was a part of me that goes, oh, no,

735
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:47,719
he'll survive.

736
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll try, he'll be okay, he's created, he'll be okay.

737
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 2: You know he was. I'm not, you know, so when

738
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,559
I call him, I go, where are you now? I'm

739
00:35:56,559 --> 00:36:00,760
in Rochester, New York. In Rochester, New York's gourmet contribution

740
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,760
to the world is something called the garbage plate. Yeah. Oh,

741
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,039
it's two cheeseburgers, diced up potatoes, onions, hot sauce over

742
00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:12,119
macaroni salad.

743
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,199
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

744
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the gen Xtur should come

745
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:16,679
this way. The Kodak Theater would be a nice place

746
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,840
for you guys. So, oh, you're going to Buffalo, and

747
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,800
we're going to Buffalo. When is that next March? Okay,

748
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,599
well that's a that's a good time. I think the

749
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:30,079
new stadium should be opened by then. I don't I

750
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:33,320
don't know. I'm just saying you can't at least tour it. Maybe,

751
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,039
I don't know. You should bring Josh Allen out on

752
00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:38,119
state something. I mean, that would all be But anyway,

753
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:40,920
the the garbage plate. So I call him and I

754
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,800
go where are He goes, I'm at And every every

755
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:48,199
like suburb of Rochester has their own plate spot. So

756
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,360
ours is parenton hots and he goes, I'm getting to

757
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,920
play a parent and Hots, I go, where'd you get

758
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,880
the money? Well? I just had it. I go, oh,

759
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,320
I just got a call. How much did you make?

760
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:01,159
One hundred and ten dollars? I go, this is out? Yeah, yeah,

761
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,519
just And I go what kind of sales pitch are

762
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:07,280
you giving these people? But I'm like, all of that

763
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,360
to me was sort of the grit you had to

764
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,400
figure stuff out as a kid. And I think, now

765
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:16,760
you get a tutorial. I used to think the Disney

766
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,719
Channel and you, as a dad may know this too,

767
00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:21,639
gave kids a tutorial on how to be a little

768
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:24,960
bit of a smart ass, right STARCASSM. Yeah. And now

769
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:29,320
we've got the phone, which is it's twenty four to seven.

770
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:32,119
I'll even say things like I don't think we'll ever

771
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:34,519
have a great guitarist ever again, because the guy who

772
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:37,679
is so introverted in wanting to learn the instrument and

773
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:40,199
sat in his room for hours and hours on end,

774
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:42,679
is now up in his room hours and hours on

775
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,360
end looking at porn only yeah, or scrolling or porn.

776
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,320
I'm just saying, like, you know, you're never gonna have it,

777
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,960
So the world has changed. But I love what you

778
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:58,280
guys do. I think your messages are are so they're positive,

779
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,199
they're nice. Yeah, yeah.

780
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: I always have to remembered that the origin of this

781
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,519
whole thing is is is a record for my grandchildren, right,

782
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,679
And so I stay true to that even when i'm

783
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:10,880
you know, dicing on somebody else. I don't want it

784
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,440
to be so bad and so deliberate that, you know,

785
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:16,079
it could be construed as me being insulting to somebody.

786
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:20,239
So I call it the Disney effect, is that there

787
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,840
are jokes in Disney movies that are meant for the parents, right, yes,

788
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,400
and the parents get them when they watch Milana or

789
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,440
something like that, they get those jokes. I do the

790
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,880
same thing. I slide some in there that the adults

791
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,719
really get and the kids are paying attention, going what

792
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:36,360
and they don't get it, But that's okay. Later in

793
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,119
life they'll get it when they watch it again. So

794
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,360
I'm very sensitive to making sure that it's pc for

795
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,719
everybody with a twist.

796
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 2: I love that and I will ask you, with this

797
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,800
newfound fame, how many people have come out of the

798
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,440
woodwork that were in your life at some point, Navy

799
00:38:54,559 --> 00:38:57,840
guys whoever that are reconnecting on what do you you know?

800
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: As, oh, yeah, I get that all the time. In fact,

801
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,519
this is, like I said, this Charleston show is going

802
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:06,400
to be interesting because I did a celebrity which was

803
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:09,639
weird for me to do a celebrity charity softball tournament

804
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:13,639
here in Charleston with a bunch of MLB players, And

805
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,920
all these MLB players wanted to do was talk to

806
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,400
me and Nick and understand how social media works. It

807
00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:22,559
was crazy. We're like, what, wait, you're like a Hall

808
00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:25,360
of Fame baseball player, what do you want to talk

809
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,360
to me for? And they're like, man, I just want

810
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,679
to know how do you do it? And so, but

811
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:33,079
at that game, half the stadium was my high school,

812
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,599
you know, because it was here in my hometown. And

813
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:39,159
so now we're going to go do this show in

814
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:42,440
October here and half that half that place is going

815
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:46,239
to be mine. And so it's been really because I

816
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,239
don't again I you know, poster since I don't see

817
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,119
myself like that, I see I still go to the

818
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:52,400
grocery store, and I still, you know, go to the

819
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,920
car wash and I still go to the dog park

820
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,719
and all that stuff, because I don't see myself as

821
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,519
anything different. But they're ha. I've been a lot of

822
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:02,000
people in my life that have come out of the

823
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,519
wood work and be like, hey, what's going on. That's

824
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:07,320
going on? Yeah, And if they were significant part, you know,

825
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,079
I embrace them and say, well, here's what's going on.

826
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:11,320
And if they weren't, I'll be like delete.

827
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, time management is a big thing.

828
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,880
When you got you know, something that you have going on,

829
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,239
plus the kids, you want to have a life. You

830
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,719
could hand it all over to this and take this

831
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,440
as you know, the ride as far as you want.

832
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,599
But I think the way you're doing it and the

833
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:33,639
whole crew is doing it, it sounds more intelligent. Right.

834
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,679
Speaker 1: Then again, we're older, so we also Number one, we

835
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,079
don't bow to anybody, right. That's one thing that we've

836
00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:42,079
stayed true to is that we own this company, the

837
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:43,599
four of us, and as long as the four of

838
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:47,519
us stay together, this thing will run forever. And so

839
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:50,800
we're not selling out to anybody or any group. Yes,

840
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,719
we're sponsored by AARP. But that is part of the joke.

841
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,559
Speaker 2: So are the Stones.

842
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: It's just hilarious.

843
00:40:57,559 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: I went to the Stone show, that would be my call.

844
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:03,000
I love the Rolling Stones. I'd be like, hey man,

845
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,000
same sponsor as the Stones.

846
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,599
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. And the fact, I mean the whole I

847
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:09,519
actually made it. Part of the bit is how that

848
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:12,519
relationship developed was that we were like, maybe we should

849
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:15,480
get sponsors. Who should we get. Let's call the pens,

850
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,840
let's call ensure, let's call fix a dent. What about AARP?

851
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,800
Now they're too big? And then they've called us and

852
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,920
we're like, holy.

853
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: Shit, that's fantastic. You're too young to get AARP, I think.

854
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: So here's what I found out is they don't advertise

855
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,800
to anybody less than fifty because then they can't get

856
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,000
their tax exemption for being a fifty plus supporter, you

857
00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:45,719
know what I mean. So anybody over the age of

858
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,480
eighteen is eligible for ARP as a membership in the discounts.

859
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:52,440
There's certain things you can't get to your fifty, like

860
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,800
you can't get the life insurance, et cetera. But they

861
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,079
are they are open, and that's why they don't use

862
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:01,840
the words behind ARP an more. They just call themselves

863
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,639
a ARP when I never hear him say the old

864
00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:05,719
words that we know, yes, right of what it sands

865
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,760
Association of American Socials are retired people. So we actually

866
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,519
did a bit on stage last show to that effect.

867
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:16,920
But anyway, so yeah, anybody over eighteen can get it.

868
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,599
So I've had mine for actually, way before they became

869
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:23,320
our sponsor, just because I like, you know, cheap meals

870
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,239
at Denny's.

871
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, I didn't know that. And I've just had

872
00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:31,239
we do a couple of different podcasts here and there's

873
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,840
one called two Fit Chicks, and one of the women

874
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,960
is fifty seven years old. I throw that in the

875
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,679
garbage every time it comes. Really yeah, And I know, man,

876
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,280
I think what you're doing is helping them immensely. I

877
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,960
really yeah, I agree. I think that was a brilliant,

878
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:51,199
brilliant way to connect.

879
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: For They came to our Nashville show because they just

880
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,679
did a one time sponsorship there and they hadn't been

881
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,400
and they've been our sponsor all year this year now

882
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:02,159
and they hadn't been to a show until we were

883
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:04,320
just in West Virginia, which is right outside of DC,

884
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,159
and they were like, oh my god, what happened in

885
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:11,400
a year. Yeah, and they're like, how did this. We're like, well,

886
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,320
I don't know. We're just doing whatever we do, and

887
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,360
whatever happens happens. They're like, this is amazing, and so

888
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,599
they're all floored. And now we're talking about twenty twenty

889
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:21,800
six for a sponsorship too. It's just like, wow, this

890
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,360
is crazy. This is wild.

891
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is wild. I'm sure, and I love it.

892
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,320
But I think that you know, when I'm sure, people

893
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,840
do ask you, how do you do it? How do

894
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,960
you keep the social media stuff from what I'm hearing

895
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,239
from you is the authenticity to telling my stories to

896
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,440
my grandkids and.

897
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: Keeping that that's stay to that route as long as

898
00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:44,519
I don't veer off that route, as long as I

899
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:46,960
don't get in and I never do politics, I never

900
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,079
do religion. I never do anything that's insulting, truly insulting

901
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:55,760
to an individual. It's usually a general response to a situation.

902
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,000
As long as I stay true to that, I'm happy

903
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:01,880
doing this. If I ever get forced into doing something,

904
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:03,920
like I've had sponsorship deals, they're like, we want you

905
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,000
to do this, I'm like, that's okay. I don't need

906
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,760
your money. I didn't have this three years ago. I

907
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:10,400
don't need it.

908
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: I think that's a great way to sort of people

909
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,840
always to tell you to protect the brand, so to speak.

910
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,199
And that's a really important thing to do. And I

911
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,559
often I was thinking of things to ask you, and

912
00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:24,960
I go, there had to be a day in the

913
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:27,920
Navy where you were just sort of scared shitless as

914
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,559
to what could go down? Right, Well, you don't need

915
00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:33,039
to you don't need to say anything. But and then

916
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:35,840
I go, so here on a day I really don't

917
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,480
want to get on a plane to Seattle. You go,

918
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:40,440
oh wait, I'm getting on a plane to Seattle. You

919
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,480
know what I'm saying to do for people? Yeah? You know?

920
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:51,519
Well right, but you can understand. I always say it's relative.

921
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:54,800
But your experience, I think can bring you back to

922
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:57,480
oh no, people are gonna be happy to see me.

923
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,800
You know, I'm not eating slop and see for six

924
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,599
months and on a carrier waiting for you know, somebody

925
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:08,519
to come. You know, Putin will do whatever with a submarine.

926
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:11,840
I think that that's got to keep things in perspective.

927
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,840
And to me, uh, maybe it's a gift, right, Maybe

928
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,000
it's a gift. You did all those other stuff.

929
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: I mean, there is not a moment that I would

930
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:20,519
change in my life.

931
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me real quick. The uh the handles for

932
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,639
people like TikTok Instagram, if you don't mind, they want

933
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:30,360
to look you up. I know. Yeah.

934
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: So it's the dad Bod veteran on all places, and

935
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,880
you can go to the Dadbod Veteran dot com and

936
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,719
you've got the list and all the way all right there. Yeah,

937
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,920
it makes it really easy.

938
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: Go on there and watch. By the way, TikTok. I

939
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,360
always love when uh my kid tells me I I

940
00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:47,840
was on TikTok for a little while and then I

941
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,559
stopped posting videos and things because it's a monster you

942
00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:54,039
got to keep. Oh yeah, it's one of these things

943
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:57,000
you gotta do. I mean I would assume, do you

944
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:59,000
like batch record a bunch of things and put them

945
00:45:59,039 --> 00:45:59,960
out every day, or.

946
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: Well I've transitioned to most recently, I transition a little

947
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,239
bit away from the reaction stuff, or if I've trickled

948
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,199
down on the reaction stuff and now I'm doing these

949
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,039
daily dad Bod videos where I'm actually writing a script

950
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,599
where I pick a topic whatever it is, like this morning,

951
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:18,440
I picked a top but about taking baths and the

952
00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:20,559
fact that I take a bath, and I decided to

953
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:24,280
do a video explaining sarcastically why I take a bath

954
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,880
from a gen xer's perspective about my achy joints and

955
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,760
EPs and salts and you know, this is my peaceful

956
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,559
place and blah blah blah. And I do one of

957
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:35,239
those every day, and maybe I'll do some reaction videos

958
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,519
that day, maybe not, but it's just my morning thing

959
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:40,119
that I do. Now as I make one daily dad

960
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:42,199
bod video and it's starting to catch on, people are like,

961
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,639
I needed this every day because it always ends in

962
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:46,639
a positive note. You know, no matter how sarcastic the

963
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:49,800
video is, no matter how insulting it is to myself,

964
00:46:50,039 --> 00:46:52,519
I always end it on a positive note to give

965
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:54,880
somebody to carry something to carry forward with the rest

966
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,719
of the day. So I'm trying new things here and there,

967
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,559
because you know, as we all know and entertain you know,

968
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:02,280
what you did is only going to last for so

969
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,800
long and then you've got to, unfortunately reinvent yourself to

970
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,519
stay relatives.

971
00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 2: So why as you're talking and I'm thinking of, uh,

972
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:15,800
there's a lot of thought that goes into this. There's

973
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,519
a lot of I would even think. You know, especially

974
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:21,719
now that you're doing stand up, you see the power

975
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,199
of the words right word and word economy and all

976
00:47:25,199 --> 00:47:29,239
this stuff is so important in that in that world. Uh,

977
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:34,119
teachers you tried to impress maybe along the way that

978
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,239
have seen you. Now have they reached out and complimented

979
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,800
you on on what you're doing. I'm just curious.

980
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,199
Speaker 1: I haven't had any teachers, but I've had coaches, Okay, okay,

981
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,039
coaches that are like, you're the you were the big

982
00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:49,760
dumb animal, Like how are you doing it?

983
00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: That's That's where I'm going, because there's it's it takes

984
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,239
an intelligence to do this. It takes the thing. And

985
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,320
I go sometimes, you know, I don't know about you.

986
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,079
I was probably more the I like living on the edge,

987
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,760
even as a kid, right, so I'd be right on

988
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,960
the edge of always getting in trouble, being the smart

989
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,400
ass or being whatever. And to have somebody who you

990
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,039
always wanted their approval as a teacher or something, and

991
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:18,800
then yeah, even to get it later in life, I

992
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,280
just think that's so cool because they would go, I

993
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,079
never never would have thought you would do this. Yeah.

994
00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 1: And that's the same thing with all the friends from

995
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,599
my high school, They like, I never would have pegged

996
00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:31,440
you to be the guy. Yeah, and I'm like, neither

997
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,559
would I. So we're both in the same boat. But

998
00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:37,320
I was the riddling baby, so I was the bouncing

999
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,559
off the walls of riddling baby and then the big

1000
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:41,920
dumb animal in high school. But it wasn't because I

1001
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,800
was the big dumb animal. I was very smart. It

1002
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,559
was just I was lazy, so I didn't want to

1003
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:48,840
do it. Right now I'm in a scenario where I

1004
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,400
want to do this, So it's very easy to apply

1005
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,920
yourself when it's something that you see is valuable.

1006
00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: It's something to always keep in mind as parenting too,

1007
00:48:57,519 --> 00:49:01,239
right to realize that with your own kids and not

1008
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:03,679
try to beat them up too much. I guess on

1009
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,440
some of these things.

1010
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard. That's that's really hard. It's so hard.

1011
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,320
That's hard, but they're all you know. My goal with

1012
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,840
my kids has always been that they need to be

1013
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,400
independent first and then they can be successful. I don't

1014
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,760
care if you're successful. I care more that you're independent

1015
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,800
just in case, you know, the world decides that my

1016
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,599
time is over. I want you to be able to

1017
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:23,679
live and survive. So every life lessons that I've ever

1018
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,920
given to them has been all about that first and

1019
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:27,920
then we'll be successful.

1020
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure talking to you. And I apologize

1021
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,119
for the informal meandering that I did with this, but.

1022
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,679
Speaker 1: No, this is this is cool. I love doing it.

1023
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 2: It is fun, and I think you're probably you're very

1024
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,840
natural at talking and stuff. And man, I hope when

1025
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,960
you guys are in Buffalo and March that maybe we

1026
00:49:48,039 --> 00:49:49,519
put together a bus and go up and.

1027
00:49:49,519 --> 00:49:52,079
Speaker 1: See you come on, man, bring it on. You'll give

1028
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:53,639
me a holler before you come, and we'll take care

1029
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:53,760
of you.

1030
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be uh, that would be a lot

1031
00:49:55,519 --> 00:49:57,840
of fun, and it would be fun to kind of see

1032
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:58,400
if you can do it.

1033
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: Maybe you can do a live one, get all four

1034
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:00,599
us on there.

1035
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,119
Speaker 2: That would be a lot of fun. That actually would

1036
00:50:03,159 --> 00:50:03,760
be a lot of fun.

1037
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,119
Speaker 1: Oh listen, I tell you what you get the four

1038
00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:08,679
of us in a room, and it's watching four rabbit

1039
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,360
monkeys fight. I mean we are. The dynamics between the

1040
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,000
four of us is insane. There have been people that

1041
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:17,559
have come into the group, a very small group, and

1042
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:19,920
they're like, what the is going on with these guys,

1043
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,880
And We're like, there's just four creatives who are all

1044
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,559
kind of spastic working together.

1045
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: Right, and yeah it's magic, yep. But it's crazy to

1046
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,480
watch content creation. I think it's I love it, and

1047
00:50:29,559 --> 00:50:33,119
I love that it's the gen X people taking over

1048
00:50:33,159 --> 00:50:36,840
and doing it. I think that's fantastic. You're never too old, right.

1049
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: We're no longer the forgotten generation. We are now the

1050
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,840
generation that no one will forget.

1051
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: Awesome, well, said John Wellington. A pleasure, Thank you so

1052
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,000
much for your time.

1053
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, thank you, appreciate it.

1054
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 2: All right, just one last thing. It's just me sitting here.

1055
00:50:53,800 --> 00:51:00,440
So I wanted to find a way to talk about

1056
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,719
the Jimmy Kimmel situation. Maybe a little differently. I saw

1057
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:10,400
Dave Portnoy, who I always appreciate people who have opinions

1058
00:51:11,559 --> 00:51:15,920
that I feel like are thought based, right, which I

1059
00:51:16,199 --> 00:51:18,159
know that sounds kind of dumb. Right to have an opinion,

1060
00:51:18,159 --> 00:51:21,280
you got to be thinking, But I feel like may

1061
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,119
he made a point I think some people will agree with.

1062
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,199
He said, what happened to Jimmy Kimmel is not cancel culture,

1063
00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:33,519
because cancel culture involves digging up things from the past,

1064
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:39,360
tweets and things on people and using that to make

1065
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,079
them less popular or get them or knock them down,

1066
00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:45,920
so to speak. And my answer back to that is

1067
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:49,400
I disagree with that statement. I think that sure, that's

1068
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:55,679
how certain people seemed to get canceled from past behaviors.

1069
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,280
Probably the most notable would be Bill Cosby, and we go, well,

1070
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:04,679
maybe it should have happened, right, I mean, he was

1071
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,840
pretty disgusting in what he was accused of doing. And

1072
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,000
when you have sixty women coming out and saying it

1073
00:52:12,039 --> 00:52:14,760
all happened to them in one or two, you can

1074
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,079
kind of goa, they're making it up. This you certainly can't. So,

1075
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:23,239
but I don't necessarily agree with that. And I was

1076
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,679
thinking Roseanne bar was canceled and kicked off her show

1077
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,000
for a tweet that she sent out a social media

1078
00:52:31,079 --> 00:52:34,000
post that she tried to say she was on Ambient

1079
00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:40,000
and people were highly offended by it. And again ABC

1080
00:52:41,159 --> 00:52:45,280
ironically decided that she shouldn't be on the show anymore

1081
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,440
because it would possibly lose advertisers coase what she wrote

1082
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:55,599
was considered so controversial. I just here's the thing that

1083
00:52:56,159 --> 00:52:59,320
I go back to, and I'm hoping people really really

1084
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,360
see this point, because I again I think these these

1085
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:08,719
situations become emotionally charged, and when we're emotionally charged, we're

1086
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:15,760
not necessarily thinking logically or understanding others' points. And that's why,

1087
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,199
like I saw the Portnoy thing, and I go, maybe

1088
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,760
your first ace full of shit. Well, no, he has

1089
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,119
a valid argument there. I'm not going to agree with

1090
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:28,880
it because I think cancel is just being canceled for

1091
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,199
something you said, whether it's in the present moment or

1092
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,239
the past. Especially if it's in the past and the

1093
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,320
person has a pattern of doing better, why are we

1094
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,800
going to punish them for something they did a long

1095
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,480
time ago? And Day's right. Not necessarily famous people, but

1096
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:48,159
students have lost scholarships for something they wrote. You know,

1097
00:53:48,199 --> 00:53:51,079
they were picked by a school to play wide receiver

1098
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:54,079
I don't know at a D one level, and then

1099
00:53:54,119 --> 00:53:56,400
they're they're gone. They lose the scholarship because of something

1100
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,639
they put out when they were fourteen fifteen years old

1101
00:53:58,679 --> 00:54:02,400
at social media. Is there a lesson in there? Yes,

1102
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:05,760
the lesson would be be careful what you're putting out

1103
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,519
on social media and words have consequences. And that was

1104
00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:14,280
more of Portnoy's point with Jimmy Kimmel that what he

1105
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:20,960
said had consequences. Yes, And I go back to you know,

1106
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:23,920
and I've said this continuously now for a couple of

1107
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,719
weeks over different situations. It's a business decision if you

1108
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,079
start losing money as a network and you're also on

1109
00:54:30,199 --> 00:54:33,559
government airwaves. But when you see headlines like the FCC

1110
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,440
head was offended by what this person said, Saying offensive

1111
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,880
things is not illegal, Saying offensive things should not cost

1112
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,880
you your job. And I'm not again, he's suspended, not

1113
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,719
fired as of the moment. But can we start to

1114
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,639
see a pattern of you know, the President did say

1115
00:54:55,199 --> 00:54:57,440
Colbert is just the beginning and the other two better

1116
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,079
be blah blah blah. Sure, Jimmy, he would go at

1117
00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:04,039
the president, But isn't that what we want in a

1118
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:09,440
free speech world? And again ABC, so if it's government airwaves,

1119
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,079
I would look for these shows to start showing up

1120
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:14,760
online in some way. You know, the only thing that

1121
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,199
Late night really has is the personality. And you know,

1122
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,559
you can say I'm glad Jimmy Kimmel's gone, right, but

1123
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,880
what about somebody you really like and if they said

1124
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,000
something that was controversial and taken away, it comes down

1125
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:33,199
to sort of this power struggle, you know, I still

1126
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:39,159
will say the Charlie Kirk situation, to me is a

1127
00:55:39,199 --> 00:55:43,800
free speech issue that concerns me gravely over the fact

1128
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,880
that people not express ideas that they believe to be

1129
00:55:48,039 --> 00:55:52,519
true and trying to be beneficial. And I know there

1130
00:55:52,519 --> 00:55:54,480
are people going do you hear the things he said?

1131
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:56,880
He said things that were inflammatory, but if we got

1132
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,639
to the root of it, I really do feel like

1133
00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:04,679
he was challenging people to defend their positions and think critically.

1134
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,119
I don't think that that's necessarily a bad thing. However,

1135
00:56:11,679 --> 00:56:17,480
I understand, but I can't cheer that person being killed.

1136
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:21,840
And I certainly think that other people will say less

1137
00:56:22,119 --> 00:56:27,400
now because somebody has died for saying that, we can

1138
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,599
say we're going to be brave and stuff, and even

1139
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,440
Charlie apparently I think there was a bulletproof vest on right,

1140
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:40,079
So it's I just the whole thing is mind boggling

1141
00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:43,039
to me and upsetting. And then to see the Kimmel thing,

1142
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,039
I go, now, we're on the other side right when

1143
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:50,599
we're silencing another voice that was giving a different opinion

1144
00:56:50,639 --> 00:56:52,440
and it's one that you don't agree with, so you

1145
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,519
get to silence it. And that's what this in my opinion,

1146
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:02,400
seems to look like the argument can certainly be made.

1147
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:05,400
We're gonna lose money if he keeps saying these things.

1148
00:57:05,679 --> 00:57:09,280
We don't want to support it. That's a business decision.

1149
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,280
But when it's the head of the FCC didn't like

1150
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:18,199
what was said and it was somewhat innocuous, then now

1151
00:57:18,239 --> 00:57:22,159
we need to We're gonna shut this person down. That's

1152
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:27,599
not American. It's not American. Let me know your thoughts.

1153
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,480
I'm always always open to hearing them. You can text

1154
00:57:30,519 --> 00:57:32,320
any time. The numbers right there on the bottom of

1155
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,320
the screen five eight five two O six eighty eight

1156
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,039
sixty six, and you can always hit me up on

1157
00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:40,320
email as well. And I appreciate you listening, and I'd

1158
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,639
love to hear people's opinions on this. But I do

1159
00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:46,320
worry that this is you know, we're silencing people right

1160
00:57:47,079 --> 00:57:52,599
one by killing somebody and now one by a government

1161
00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:55,960
agency saying I didn't like the way you said that. Now,

1162
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,480
that to me is not American. I don't know. I

1163
00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:03,239
don't know how you feel, but I'm open to the discussion,

1164
00:58:03,519 --> 00:58:09,239
and I appreciate you more than you even know. For

1165
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:20,039
myself and for John Wellington, the dad bod veteran. I've

1166
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:23,119
the Moran. We'll see them all. We'll see it Monday.

1167
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:25,719
I'm ti a TV. I want to rule a letter

1168
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:32,079
to you Dad. Mat about the United State. Seem they

1169
00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:34,599
were looking borrow kind of light with tennis. Eve me