1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: It's time to celebrate the biggest team sport known to man, 2 00:00:03,879 --> 00:00:07,160 where modern day gladiators collide for all the glory on 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:07,679 the grid. 4 00:00:07,719 --> 00:00:08,919 Speaker 2: I let's talk some. 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: College football on Cougar Sports with Ben Cridl. 6 00:00:24,879 --> 00:00:26,679 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the sports one of three nine ninety 7 00:00:26,679 --> 00:00:28,559 eight Quick three ESPN the Fan. 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,839 Speaker 3: I'm Ben Crittle broadcasting from our Banterwell Studios Banderwell dot com. 9 00:00:31,879 --> 00:00:33,719 Get on a free q and a no obligation to 10 00:00:33,759 --> 00:00:36,799 advest QNA with our tax more Wealth Advisors certify financial planners. 11 00:00:36,799 --> 00:00:39,840 Nobody does it better than band or Wealth Banterwealth dot Com. 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: And he's time for a little college football segment. 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: Get a welcome in uh b YU Insider Cougar Sports Insider. 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And you flipped a few commits too 59 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,240 while you're at it from the University of Utah. You've 60 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,639 been you know, a big bo your fan for a 61 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,360 long time. In this modern era, nothing really matches that 62 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,120 recruiting ranking or the recruiting class. 63 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: Who was your favorite out of the bunch. 64 00:02:56,599 --> 00:02:59,599 Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, I'm gonna say Rider aside just because 65 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:01,800 I think that one, like like everybody's gonna go for 66 00:03:01,879 --> 00:03:03,759 the quarterback or bau right, that's what we're gonna say. 67 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,360 But I think outside of Rider, I think the one 68 00:03:09,759 --> 00:03:12,680 probably Brock Harris. Again I'm going against an another, but 69 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,280 Bot Mutlo is gonna be awesome too. So I don't know, 70 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,080 it's hard to pick somebody out of this class because 71 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,879 I love that we have such a high average. I 72 00:03:19,879 --> 00:03:22,840 think our average is above eighty five. Maybe I don't know, 73 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,199 it's eighty seven, right, And so I think just where 74 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:27,319 we're at in terms of twenty four to seven rankings 75 00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:29,879 and everything is awesome. It's awesome the programs at this point. 76 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,599 If you've see what Ba's doing right now with the 77 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,439 classes they had before, just imagine what they can do 78 00:03:34,479 --> 00:03:39,039 with the same program we've got going. Everything we've got 79 00:03:39,199 --> 00:03:41,919 in terms of the culture, all those different things. I 80 00:03:41,919 --> 00:03:43,800 think you bring in this amount of talent and it's 81 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,439 really excited to see what we're gonna do with it. 82 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: Love it, love it man. Yeah. 83 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: So this this BYU football team the last two years 84 00:03:53,319 --> 00:03:57,240 eleven and two, eleven A two top twenty signing class. 85 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,120 When was the last time things were this good in 86 00:03:59,199 --> 00:04:01,960 Cougar football country? 87 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: I mean before I was born, Like back in the eighties. 88 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,639 That's the only thing I can think of. I mean, 89 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,360 we had a good run there three years in a 90 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,319 row with you know, during your years of seven oh 91 00:04:10,319 --> 00:04:12,319 eight o nine, those were some really good years that 92 00:04:12,479 --> 00:04:13,800 that was the best time of t B A B 93 00:04:13,919 --> 00:04:17,959 A FEN during my lifetime. But I think this, you know, 94 00:04:18,319 --> 00:04:20,399 is above that, and it's got to be the eighties 95 00:04:20,439 --> 00:04:22,480 is the last time we had the program turning this way. 96 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,040 And I personally, again I don't I wasn't alive to 97 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,639 who knows, but I think the trajectory and what happened 98 00:04:27,639 --> 00:04:29,399 with the colony extension and all that kind of stuff 99 00:04:30,319 --> 00:04:33,480 looks makes you know, I think this these two years 100 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,800 are really just springboards into what's what's what's potentially out 101 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,279 there in the next couple of years. 102 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Uh, it's a great day to be a Cougar, 103 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:42,959 no doubt about it. 104 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: We're going We're getting back to the glory days. Uh. 105 00:04:45,959 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: What's the ceiling for this team? Would you say, what's 106 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,480 the ceiling for Koloni? What's the ceiling for Cougar football 107 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:51,959 right now. 108 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:54,759 Speaker 4: So I just remembered something crittled that I needed to 109 00:04:54,759 --> 00:04:56,240 tell you because you weren't on last week when we 110 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,319 did the interview, that you kept giving me crap to 111 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,000 not have this blue goggles and that I should get 112 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,959 my real projections now, my blue goggles projections. And I 113 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,480 just want to ask who was closer. Whose projection was closer? 114 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,319 Speaker 3: I said the ceiling was nine to three, and you said, 115 00:05:08,399 --> 00:05:11,120 I think fourteenth thirteen for the regular season. 116 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,079 Speaker 4: I think it's yeah, I've probably done sixteen and oak 117 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,279 because we were winning the Natty. But yeah, no, but 118 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,120 but I think I can't remember your question now. Sorry, 119 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,800 I got so I just wanted to make sure I 120 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:21,800 put that out there to you. 121 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,639 Speaker 3: No, you know, I'm just say it was the ceiling 122 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,600 for this Cougar football team. Obviously you're a National Championship 123 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:29,079 or bus guy. Uh, you know it's every single year 124 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,839 sixteen and oh, but is the ceiling Natty? 125 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:32,399 Speaker 2: Once again? 126 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,079 Speaker 3: When you watch that Texas Tech game, do you see 127 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,120 the kaza between Elite and Great? 128 00:05:37,639 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: How far away is b yu? 129 00:05:40,879 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: I think we're it's possible, but it's still gonna be 130 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,240 super tough to get into that better, But I think 131 00:05:46,759 --> 00:05:47,399 I think it's there. 132 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,879 Speaker 1: Like obviously I think. 133 00:05:48,759 --> 00:05:51,319 Speaker 4: Texas Tech we could have won that game. Things go 134 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,680 a little bit different. Obviously it pulled away, but going 135 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,839 in three minutes left in the third quarter down by 136 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,800 six points, like we were still in that game until 137 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,319 all of a sudden will sell off. I still think, 138 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,759 do they win that game? If we played it ten times, 139 00:06:02,759 --> 00:06:04,879 they win it eight of the ten or seven of 140 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,519 the ten. And I think that's where the gap. Where 141 00:06:06,519 --> 00:06:08,360 can we get to a spot where we're just as 142 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:12,360 good as them. I think it's going to take this 143 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,040 recruiting classes like we just really had, and then getting 144 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,120 a few key pieces out of the portal And I 145 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,600 think it's upfront. I mean, you look at that what 146 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:22,399 that defensive line, the problems it causes because they're able 147 00:06:22,439 --> 00:06:24,439 to do They're able to go just four down and 148 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,279 not have to bring anybody else, and keep people in coverage, 149 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,800 keep people, you know, sound gaps down on all those 150 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,800 different things. I just think the defensive line is just crazy. 151 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:34,519 But I think we're I don't think we're that far off. 152 00:06:34,519 --> 00:06:35,920 I think it's just a couple of players. I think 153 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:41,040 the NIL and Portal era make it possible, So that 154 00:06:41,079 --> 00:06:43,560 gap is getting closed. I mean back in the day 155 00:06:43,319 --> 00:06:47,800 of the you know, the Bamas and Georgia's of yesteryear, 156 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,480 when before that was happening, I feel like the gap 157 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,279 was even bigger. I really think we're just a few 158 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,800 players away from closing that gap. 159 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,079 Speaker 3: Just a few years away from closing that gap. What 160 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:58,600 do you got from me? 161 00:06:58,639 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: Ap? 162 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:01,519 Speaker 5: So if I give you the over under two and 163 00:07:01,519 --> 00:07:04,600 a half, are you taking the over under two and 164 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,319 a half years before BYU gets into the college football playoffs? 165 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: Who that's tough. I'm gonna go. I mean, my my 166 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:17,879 blue goggles under. I think I think we've got an 167 00:07:17,959 --> 00:07:19,399 under that. It depends on what happens with the College 168 00:07:19,399 --> 00:07:21,759 FOOTBA playoff expansion too. If we go to sixteen or 169 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:23,720 twenty teams, then I think that it's an one hundred 170 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,000 percent under. If we say at twelve, I think that 171 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,800 two and a half are pretty dann good over underline. 172 00:07:29,399 --> 00:07:31,800 But I think with the recruiting class the things stay intact. 173 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,399 I'm gonna take the understill. 174 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. 175 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:38,879 Speaker 4: When are we gonna get to the when do we 176 00:07:38,879 --> 00:07:41,600 get into the final semi semis? I think over I 177 00:07:41,639 --> 00:07:43,600 don't think we're there yet. I think it it's gonna 178 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,680 take more than just that to be able to actually 179 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,759 be competing for a national championship. 180 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:47,639 Speaker 1: At the end. 181 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 4: But I think getting into the playoff, yeah, we're we're 182 00:07:49,959 --> 00:07:51,279 I mean, we were almost there this year, so I 183 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:53,079 don't think it's crazy to say under on that. 184 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 5: Well, So, so do you think do you think BYU 185 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,040 can get there under Kolone Satake or will it be 186 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,720 the next guy after for Klannie? 187 00:08:02,439 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 4: I think I think it's Colone. I think I think 188 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,439 we can. Whether we will or not, I don't know, 189 00:08:06,439 --> 00:08:08,480 but I think Colonie is the perfect guy to get 190 00:08:08,519 --> 00:08:08,839 us there. 191 00:08:09,279 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: I agree. 192 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: What do you make Brandon of kind of the the 193 00:08:14,959 --> 00:08:19,879 eleventh hour signing and contract extension of Kolani, Were you, 194 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:20,279 you know a. 195 00:08:20,199 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: Little bit miffed at that, Like why did it come 196 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:22,399 to that? 197 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was. I was nervous. I was 198 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,879 definitely nervous that at first. I was like, Oh, this 199 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,240 is just Colonna, you know, kind of getting some leverage 200 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,480 there so we can get what he wants to do 201 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,679 AU And I'm you know, the more you hear sometimes 202 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:37,480 I do think that was a little bit of it. 203 00:08:37,759 --> 00:08:39,799 But there were some talks on that Monday morning that 204 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,000 and I was hearing that. It was like he was 205 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:45,679 basically gone already. I don't know how much those were 206 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,240 just rumors what was going on, but I think it 207 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,240 was very legitimate, and I got very, very nervous. It's 208 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,679 hard to read into what actually happened. Who's at fault, 209 00:08:55,159 --> 00:08:57,600 because you know, you're hearing different stories from different people, 210 00:08:57,639 --> 00:09:00,519 But I was. Colonie's mentioned a couple time now in 211 00:09:00,519 --> 00:09:04,200 interviews postgame interviews that he wanted it to happen before 212 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,480 the bye week. So the fact that he's putting that 213 00:09:06,519 --> 00:09:09,360 out there makes me think that he's in wanting this. 214 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,080 And ba Is wasn't moving, and he's like, well, if 215 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,639 you're not gonna move, and I'm gonna start moving, I'm 216 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,519 gonna start looking out elsewhere or at least get some 217 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,399 leverage there. And so I think I was very nervous. 218 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:21,200 But I think the fact that it happened and he 219 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,000 had the leverage that he had, I think sets Bau 220 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,559 up for a ton of success. I mean, some of 221 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,960 the rumors out there that he's gonna have more control there, 222 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,279 you know, change some of the structure, who can pay 223 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,519 salaries and what. I think A lot of that stuff 224 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:40,240 really does affect the long term ability for BAU to 225 00:09:40,279 --> 00:09:41,440 get to where they want to go and where we 226 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:42,039 want them to go. 227 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great situation right now for for BYU. 228 00:09:48,799 --> 00:09:51,279 In my opinion, you're gonna have an influx of cash 229 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,559 rev share ten to fifteen in NIL. Coaches are getting 230 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,559 paid well, so you should be able to retain most 231 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,000 of your players and I hope and hopefully your staff. 232 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:04,799 Speaker 2: Where do you expect attrition? 233 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 3: You know, how many players do you think we're gonna 234 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:12,039 we're gonna maybe possibly lose in this cycle? 235 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,159 Speaker 4: I think, I mean, what we've always seen up until 236 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,159 this point with with it is that we're losing one 237 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,279 to two key players that you're like, man, that's gonna hurt. 238 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,360 But then the rest of it we're we're getting in 239 00:10:25,399 --> 00:10:27,200 just as many or more. I think we've been a 240 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,480 net positive in the in the portal so far. I 241 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,240 think we're gonna start losing depth pieces that are unproven 242 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:34,720 talent but think that they can go get a better 243 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,159 shot somewhere else. I think is what we're gonna start seeing. 244 00:10:37,159 --> 00:10:39,919 So guys like John McKenzie, who I think has potential there. 245 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,279 I think La Maison Waller, those are guys that like 246 00:10:43,399 --> 00:10:45,639 there's a potential there that that's where we're gonna get 247 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,919 hurt the most. We probably lose another starter or two. 248 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,840 I hope not, but I think that's just the nature 249 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:52,799 of you know, as we were kind of looking through 250 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:56,279 those numbers, and in my head, I'm like, okay, Like yes, 251 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,919 even if we let's say that the between the revs 252 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,480 and the ten to fifteen and nil, like she said, 253 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,720 thirty million dollars, like with what some of the offers 254 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,360 that are getting said out there for these different positions, 255 00:11:07,639 --> 00:11:09,639 that still doesn't mean you can just like pay thirty 256 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,759 million as a ton, But that doesn't mean you contain 257 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,399 all you all your talent. If somebody else is gonna 258 00:11:13,399 --> 00:11:15,320 come after them as they are number one and you're 259 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,240 and they're all are number three, they're just we can't 260 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,600 throw the money at them. So I think we're gonna 261 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,480 miss a couple of starters here and there every year. 262 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:22,799 But I don't think it's gonna be crazy. Just because 263 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:24,519 of Colonie's culture, I think we're gonna be able to 264 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,240 retain who we want as long as they are our 265 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,519 top priority. I think we'll keep. 266 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: Them Lamson Waller Don McKenzie currently in the in the portal. 267 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,320 You know, what was your reaction to those two individuals 268 00:11:36,399 --> 00:11:38,240 jumping at the portal two wide receivers spots. 269 00:11:38,279 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 4: I'm sad, Yeah, I'm sad. I think Dom. I was 270 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,519 excited about Dom' speed and then you know, we saw 271 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,799 some highlights coming out of spring with la Mason making 272 00:11:45,799 --> 00:11:49,000 some pretty acrobatic catches and I really was high on him. 273 00:11:49,919 --> 00:11:52,000 But I'm wondering with him. You know, it could have 274 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,600 been a fit thing too, not just the playing time 275 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,879 because he was hurt half the season anyway and didn't 276 00:11:57,639 --> 00:11:59,799 wasn't able to play. But I'm sad, but again, it's 277 00:11:59,799 --> 00:12:02,120 not the It's not one of those situations where you've 278 00:12:02,159 --> 00:12:03,960 got to dick hapstake at year to year. And I 279 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,440 don't think that either one of them were going to 280 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:07,639 be our studs next year, So I don't really think 281 00:12:07,639 --> 00:12:08,919 that I'm that worried about it. 282 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,519 Speaker 2: La Mason had potential though four star. 283 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: Dom was a three three star speedster, you know what 284 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,919 I mean, Like he had a nice touchdown earlier this 285 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,200 season off the edge, showcasing that speed. 286 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: These guys had power four offers, power five offers. 287 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: Right, I can't remember all of uh all of Dom's offers, 288 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:33,639 but I know he had been he had committed to Virginia. 289 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,000 If I'm not mistaken, you of a pitt duke. Obviously 290 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,799 b YU had offered him, he was enrolled there, Santago State, 291 00:12:42,919 --> 00:12:47,039 Oregon purportedly offered at one at one point, Air Force, 292 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,919 Sage State, UNLV, Utah State. I mean, these are these 293 00:12:50,919 --> 00:12:53,200 are death guys too. These are death guys too. 294 00:12:53,279 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, up and eventually have at junior or senior year. 295 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: And that's awesome. That's that's the thing is. But how 296 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:01,120 cool is it now that we have guys that are 297 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,000 depth pieces that were Yes, obviously I'm sad because I 298 00:13:04,039 --> 00:13:06,039 really do think he could have turned into something. But 299 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,519 at the same time, how cool is that our depth 300 00:13:08,519 --> 00:13:11,159 pieces now are guys with competing P five offers, people 301 00:13:11,159 --> 00:13:14,360 are offers and are as highly counted as he is. Like, yes, 302 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,279 I'm sad because of what he could be and when 303 00:13:16,279 --> 00:13:18,559 we signed him it was like, holy cow, this is huge. 304 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:20,919 But how much talent we've gotten since then, and the 305 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,120 fact that he still didn't crack the two DP. Yes, 306 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,639 he's just the year off of his mission. So I 307 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,279 really think. I'm sad about the potential, but I think 308 00:13:27,399 --> 00:13:30,080 year to year is the roster construction, and I didn't 309 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,960 expect him to be a huge piece next year. So 310 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,600 I guess that's where I mean, it's not a huge 311 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:35,679 deal just because next year it doesn't make a huge 312 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,759 difference in my opinion, who's. 313 00:13:38,519 --> 00:13:40,639 Speaker 3: The priority right now to retain. You want to get 314 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:42,159 out in front of it, because you're right, hey, this 315 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,320 guy could could, could could bounce if given a better opportunity. 316 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:51,639 Speaker 4: Else will bear, And I think that's I didn't think that. 317 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,039 I mean, I was obviously he's gonna get tons offers 318 00:13:54,039 --> 00:13:55,519 just because of who he is. But you know, a 319 00:13:55,519 --> 00:13:57,159 couple of players in the post game saying like if 320 00:13:57,159 --> 00:13:59,399 we can keep Bear like that, just some of those 321 00:13:59,399 --> 00:14:01,840 comments got me nervous. I think bears a huge piece 322 00:14:01,879 --> 00:14:06,080 to it. And then LJ, but that's more from the NFL. 323 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,679 I don't I mean, he could transfer, but I don't 324 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,000 see him going to another school. But I think if 325 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,039 we can, LJ is such a huge part of that 326 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,360 running game, and I think, I mean, I think is 327 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:17,200 better than what the general fan thinks he is. And 328 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,879 he was just hurt for so long. This year, but 329 00:14:18,919 --> 00:14:20,240 I don't know you want him to be your RB 330 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,519 one to be as successful as we want. I think 331 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:26,039 he's a great RB two. So those are the two 332 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:27,360 I would I would focus. 333 00:14:27,039 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: On do we need what do we need to the portal? 334 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: What positions of need are there with guys graduating and 335 00:14:35,799 --> 00:14:39,879 h you know you you hope to retain everybody that 336 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,639 has eligibility remaining, But what do you need to go 337 00:14:43,639 --> 00:14:44,320 get in the portal? 338 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: I would say, I think tackle. I know there's contradicting 339 00:14:49,399 --> 00:14:51,320 kind of thoughts on where the tackles are, but I 340 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,879 know it's in a proven space Andrew Gentry comes back 341 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:56,960 most likely, so I think we have one tackle there 342 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,200 that's proven but tackles the spot. But then I also 343 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,440 think defensive tack is a spot where I'm I'm nervous. 344 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:05,279 If Keanu doesn't come back, and if Kirklea doesn't come 345 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:07,399 back healthy, then we have a bunch of depth pieces 346 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:08,799 there and not really a starter. So I think our 347 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,879 number one spot we need to go after is defensive 348 00:15:11,919 --> 00:15:14,799 tackles because you know, we like to go at least four. 349 00:15:14,919 --> 00:15:16,840 We like to rotate four all the time, but we've 350 00:15:16,879 --> 00:15:19,240 gone six before and so I think you want to 351 00:15:19,279 --> 00:15:21,879 have six six defensive tackles you can play, and we're 352 00:15:21,879 --> 00:15:24,360 not right there in my opinion, So I think that's 353 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,200 the number one priority. But besides that, I think we're 354 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,159 pretty I don't think we need to go crazy on 355 00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:32,480 any other position besides running back. I kind of like 356 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,799 I said, if I Lj's there, I'm less worried about 357 00:15:34,879 --> 00:15:36,600 running back. With LJ goes, we need to go hard 358 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,679 heart in the portal defensive line, and then I think tackles. 359 00:15:42,159 --> 00:15:42,919 Speaker 2: I like that take. 360 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,559 Speaker 5: How do you feel the linebacker room has a potential 361 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,440 to lose a few guys? Obviously Jack Kelly is gonna 362 00:15:51,919 --> 00:15:55,679 be gone. Isaiah Glasker you never know what he's doing. 363 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,399 How do you feel about the guys behind those two 364 00:15:59,559 --> 00:16:02,320 stepping up next year, potentially in the starting role. 365 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: I think getting chambered at stroller back and then being 366 00:16:06,879 --> 00:16:10,120 there as KAFUSI. I mean, Miles Hollis played some good reps. 367 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,000 I'm not too worried about linebacker. If you lose obviously, 368 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:16,120 you like you have to replace Jack. If you lose Isaiah, 369 00:16:16,159 --> 00:16:18,279 then I'm a little more nervous. But I still think 370 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,759 we have a ton of talent there. And I think 371 00:16:20,799 --> 00:16:22,759 we're we're okay. I don't think you really unless there's 372 00:16:22,759 --> 00:16:24,720 a difference maker that you just have to go after. 373 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,360 I don't really think you need to go to the portal. 374 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:28,080 I say, I trust the depth there. I think you 375 00:16:28,159 --> 00:16:30,879 got athletes on athletes stacked in that room. Pierson Watson. 376 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,720 I've heard so many good things out of you know, 377 00:16:33,879 --> 00:16:36,240 fall camp and then practices out of him, So I 378 00:16:36,399 --> 00:16:38,080 think we've got a lot of talent there. I'm not 379 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,960 too worried about that room. 380 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: Not too worried about it this last year. 381 00:16:44,679 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: Right, So let's look at the guys that left, Okay, 382 00:16:48,639 --> 00:16:50,039 do you think all of them are regret leaving? Do 383 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,720 you think Keelan regrets leaving? 384 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:54,399 Speaker 2: Do you think? I don't think Jake does. He's too late. 385 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,399 Speaker 3: He's going to see Yea, Kila's in the playoff too, 386 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,679 you know what I mean? And it's like Harrison Taggart, 387 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,799 who else had I got? Who else had I got? 388 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: Here? 389 00:17:06,839 --> 00:17:09,799 Speaker 4: Those that I feel like that we're Yeah, those were 390 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:11,039 the three starters. I feel like that we lost. 391 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think. 392 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 4: Ye I think I heard a rumor that Cruz not 393 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,079 happy with his decision. I don't know if that's true, 394 00:17:21,079 --> 00:17:22,920 but I heard a rumor, but I think the other 395 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,079 I think Harrison probably wishes it too, just because they 396 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,960 were when Trey went out and then Sila was kind 397 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,559 of dealing with some stuff. I think Harris would have 398 00:17:31,599 --> 00:17:33,720 gotten some good reps there. But I don't think we 399 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:36,799 missed him crazy amount. But I think he probably missed us. 400 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:40,200 But I think with obviously Jake had to go, I 401 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,920 mean that not had to, but basically there was a 402 00:17:42,039 --> 00:17:44,680 decision with made for him. But I think Kielan Kilan 403 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,119 is the one that made the choice, and he's probably 404 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,759 fine with it. I don't think he's like, oh, man, 405 00:17:48,759 --> 00:17:50,599 I really shouldn't have left. I think he's gotten a 406 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,200 lot of reps still there and still done quite a bit. 407 00:17:53,319 --> 00:17:56,079 I think he would have been the one or wide 408 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,519 receiver one or two this year. I think he would 409 00:17:57,519 --> 00:17:59,079 have taken a lot of what Kingston did, even though 410 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,599 I love Kingston. I think they were hyping up Marion before, 411 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,880 but I think he would have been more featured on 412 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,480 this team. But I think if it's his, you know, 413 00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:09,079 I just think he probably would just find it that 414 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,400 Miami didn't feel too one way or the other. 415 00:18:12,799 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, So you had Carson Sue Sue, Josh Singh to Vanderbilt, 416 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,839 he played Simoni, David Ers and Taggert to cal Keel 417 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,480 and maryont to Miami, Porter Small, De Weaver State, CoA 418 00:18:23,559 --> 00:18:27,799 Elders went to Hawaii. Nason Coleman went to nau Landon 419 00:18:27,839 --> 00:18:31,119 Rico went to Utah State, Cale Bresen went to Montana State. 420 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,759 Kate Finigan I think, went to Aveline. Christian Carson two 421 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:36,119 J went to Utah State. Jky Corn to Utah State, 422 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:41,119 David Logito Boise State, Noahlugo UTSA, Dallan Johnson, Utah Tech, 423 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,039 Ice Mode in Michigan State, Crew Wakey to Purdue, Dalton 424 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:45,960 Riggs to UCF. 425 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 2: We saw him in provo again. 426 00:18:47,519 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 3: Dallenjvea Utah Tech, Cody EPs Western Kentucky. 427 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 2: I think he retired though Michah. 428 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,799 Speaker 3: Harper went to Montana, Jackson Bowers went to Oregon State, 429 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,799 Miles Davis to Utah State, and then I think Shone 430 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,000 shony Moa ended up either at Yukon or Weaver. 431 00:19:03,759 --> 00:19:07,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think. I mean, there's 432 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:10,119 probably some of those guys like Manic, you know, I don't. 433 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,799 I didn't follow every single one of those. I think 434 00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:14,200 we talked about the four that I really followed super well. 435 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:16,920 I know Jake Gikorn ended up starting up at Utah States. 436 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,279 I'm sure he's happy with that situation, but yeah, I 437 00:19:20,599 --> 00:19:22,519 think it ended up being okay, And that's what I 438 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:25,240 have felt mostly out of the portal. We've been winners. 439 00:19:25,279 --> 00:19:27,599 We've let other guys that are good players but can 440 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,759 go get more rep somewhere else. They've ended up leaving, 441 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:32,799 but we haven't really lost any huge key pieces, at 442 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,160 least a multiple of them, because I think Kilany's culture 443 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,160 breeds that. And then we get people to come back 444 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,279 that were recruited by us and went and chased the 445 00:19:39,279 --> 00:19:40,640 bright lights, and then they end up coming back to 446 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,240 us because they realized that's not as big a deal 447 00:19:42,279 --> 00:19:44,440 as they thought it wasn't. Hopefully that stops happening all 448 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,680 together because recruiting is get up better. But but yeah, 449 00:19:46,799 --> 00:19:48,599 I think the portal is a net positive for BAU 450 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:49,640 every year. 451 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 3: So the net positive portal of Brigham Young University. I 452 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,359 hope it give it rather than take it take it 453 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,799 away this offseason as well. This last offseason, though, you 454 00:20:01,839 --> 00:20:06,880 picked up Tiger Bachmeyer Justin Kirkland, Tavian Beasley, Alvin Peyafua. 455 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,319 Speaker 2: I don't know if we saw him much. 456 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 3: Bear Bachmeyer great pickup, Kea Need, Navasa, Max, Alfred Carson, 457 00:20:14,039 --> 00:20:16,680 Ryan and E. C. Purcell to Celia Khana, Andrew Gentry, 458 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,759 Kyle super Choke. 459 00:20:18,759 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 2: Who's the outside of Bear? Who is the best acquisition? 460 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:22,720 Do you think? 461 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,799 Speaker 4: I think Keanu ton of Us. I think he gets 462 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,480 craped for not performing like you did Utah, but with 463 00:20:30,559 --> 00:20:32,839 him and John t next to him, he ended up 464 00:20:32,839 --> 00:20:34,440 playing the one tech more than I think he would 465 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,720 have normally. I think if Kirkland was helpy all season, 466 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:41,720 Kirkland plays the one tech and Knew plays the three tech, 467 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,440 and I think he ends up getting more. But when 468 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,960 he was taken on double teams so much, I think 469 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,759 it he got lost in some of that. But I 470 00:20:46,799 --> 00:20:50,000 think you definitely say there. But then also Kyl Sapartrak 471 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,920 was huge for us, and obviously he rotated with the 472 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,160 with the three men rotation they had in that spot. 473 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,839 But I think, I mean, when you read through that lift, 474 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,160 I had already known some of those names, but I 475 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,880 had forgotten about some of them being transfers. I think 476 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,839 we definitely won on the portal last year, like it's 477 00:21:03,839 --> 00:21:04,519 not even close. 478 00:21:05,599 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 5: Well, I do have a question here, what do you 479 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,440 think the solution is at the tight end position? Because 480 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,519 Carson Ryan was a he was a great one year fix. 481 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,759 What do you what do you think the solution is 482 00:21:15,799 --> 00:21:17,880 for next year? Is it the portal again? Do we 483 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,559 trust some of the guys behind Carson? 484 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:20,839 Speaker 2: What do you think? 485 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 4: I think it depends on what what goes on. And 486 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,319 actually just read an article from Jeff Hanson about this, 487 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,000 so this is on the top of my mind, But 488 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,440 it depends on what happens with ty GOOCHI or however 489 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,319 you say his last name. If he decides to go 490 00:21:32,319 --> 00:21:34,240 on a mission first, then I think you might have 491 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,759 some scholarship capital of the triango in the portal. Besides that, 492 00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:38,319 there's a ton of scholarship guys in there, and yes, 493 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,480 you might be able to push some of them to 494 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,319 the portal, but I think they might have to roll 495 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,400 with and this is kind of quoting Jeff Hanson, I 496 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,720 think they might have to roll with the depths that 497 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:51,000 they have there just because of where they're at in 498 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,519 terms of numbers. Because they've got guys in this in 499 00:21:53,559 --> 00:21:55,839 the system that are going to be there next like 500 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,279 in the next couple of years. They're loaded on tight ends, 501 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,240 but we do have that couple of year gap now, 502 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:02,720 and I think if they can have the scholarship capital, 503 00:22:02,759 --> 00:22:04,680 I'm sure they go after somebody and try and get 504 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,279 a starter, but they might just have to kind of 505 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,400 roll with Noah Moyaki and and hen Need being the 506 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,799 guys next year, and then hopefully if Ty does play 507 00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:14,079 Taigauchi or however you say his last name, you know, 508 00:22:14,319 --> 00:22:17,599 kind of hopefully showing out. I think he's he is 509 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,640 an underrated recruit. I think he's going to be awesome. 510 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:20,680 I'm excited for him. 511 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, now, ty Ty Getch is uh is the 512 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:30,160 freak athlete of this of this class, and he's uh, He's. 513 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:31,039 Speaker 2: He's a really nice pick up. 514 00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: We'll see how he how he plays in a b 515 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,240 YU uniform, no doubt. All right, Bradon. The best way 516 00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:39,119 to support you what you do, how you do it 517 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,160 over there at Odeon Menswear. 518 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, right now is take advantage of the twenty percent 519 00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:47,400 off gift cards. 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That coming up next, this is Cougar Sports 548 00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:09,559 on one of three nine ninety eight point three eight 549 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:11,240 SPN Stats. 550 00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 6: Let's talk about stats. 551 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,039 Speaker 1: Ben Cretinal and his team of former players and insiders 552 00:24:17,079 --> 00:24:20,359 give you the latest stats, data and analytics that are 553 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,160 trending in the world of Cougar Sports Stats. 554 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,039 Speaker 3: Welcome back your sports one of the three nine ninety 555 00:24:28,039 --> 00:24:30,119 eight point three ESPN the Fan. I've been tital broadcasting 556 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,559 from our Banterwealth Studios Banterwealth dot com. Get on a 557 00:24:32,599 --> 00:24:34,640 free Q and A no obligation to invest Q and 558 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,480 A with our tax smart wealth advisors today and we 559 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:41,759 have our tax my wealth advisor on the line right now. 560 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:45,400 He's NFLPA certified financial planner, Blaine Anderson to discuss private 561 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,720 equity in sports. 562 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,599 Speaker 2: Blaine, how the heck are you? 563 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:51,559 Speaker 6: I'm doing good? This is a big topic. Ben, happy 564 00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:53,720 to join you and be on the show today. 565 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,039 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank yah Man. 566 00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 3: I want to lean into your expertise and your knowledge 567 00:24:57,599 --> 00:25:01,720 We've been very h you know, kind of hesitant to 568 00:25:01,759 --> 00:25:04,599 go all in on private equity and sports. It's been 569 00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:06,119 a bit of a hiss and a byword for many 570 00:25:06,519 --> 00:25:10,559 that appine on this within the media, sometimes within fan bases. 571 00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:14,960 Private equity has been flirting with athletic departments for a 572 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,680 while now, and athletic departments have been flirtatious with them. 573 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,119 University of you Tah the first to jump into this 574 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,960 and decide that this is for them. Private equity is 575 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,319 obviously porn in but both both professional and now college 576 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,799 athletics now, so help us understand why investors are so 577 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,960 attracted to this space right now? 578 00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 6: Well, as you mentioned, Utah became the first university to 579 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,000 formalize what schools across the country have been evaluating for 580 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,680 really at least for the past two years. And someone 581 00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:51,200 was going to take the first step, and Utah decided 582 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,880 that waiting was riskier than acting. And so here we 583 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,119 are the first introduction to private equity within college sports. 584 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,160 I can say I've been seeing it on the professional level. 585 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,960 We've had funds present their funds to us, and vander 586 00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:11,640 does a lot in the private space, so this area 587 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,599 is not foreign to us. The private equity and the 588 00:26:14,599 --> 00:26:19,720 private investments. To answer your question, private equity has taken 589 00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:22,319 over a lot of industries. We're all seeing it, whether 590 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,640 it's real estate, even land. We're finding a lot of 591 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,720 farmers private equity coming in buying a lot of land. 592 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,880 But the thing about private equity is, as we know, 593 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,039 they're not looking for five percent returns. They typically target 594 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,599 mid teens to twenty percent annual returns with two to 595 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,519 five times multiples over seven to ten years. That's why 596 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:49,359 a deal like Utah has real estate or has real 597 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,680 expectations tied to revenue growth, and that's why private equity 598 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,839 and investors they're in it to win, and they're going 599 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,400 to look to drive up that return on investment and 600 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,680 it's usually twenty plus percent that they expect. 601 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's a certain number that they're going to 602 00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:06,240 get right off the top. 603 00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:07,039 Speaker 2: It seems right. 604 00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:08,839 Speaker 3: They're going to take the revenue right off the top 605 00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:11,880 of that. Hey, this is ours for this investment. 606 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:12,759 Speaker 2: Correct. 607 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,759 Speaker 6: Yes, oftentimes there's going to be a capital infusion. My 608 00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:19,640 understanding is that this this deal here to start, is 609 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,519 it five hundred million dollars? 610 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,319 Speaker 2: Yeah? Pretty crazy. 611 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 3: They're also inviting donors to have an equity stake in 612 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,440 it as well. I think that's I don't know if 613 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,559 that's been a part of all of these private equity deals, 614 00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:36,319 but they're inviting donors to have. 615 00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: Ownership. It used to be as me. 616 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: You know, tax deduction, right, tax deduction we're talking about 617 00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:44,200 at the end of the year, you're looking for tax deductions. 618 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: You got a few million in the bank. 619 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,559 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, well, i'll give it to the university 620 00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:49,759 that I love, the athletic department that I love, and 621 00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:52,440 you get the tax deduction. How does it work if 622 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,759 you're a donor and you put that money as an investment, 623 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,720 as an equity stakeholder in this new Utah Rands LLC. 624 00:27:59,839 --> 00:28:01,240 I know, so I'm going to, you know, kind of 625 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:03,559 throwing one at you here, but I wonder what that 626 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:03,960 would be. 627 00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 6: Well, the comparison I can give is with a fund 628 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,920 that we've been working with in professional sports. So this 629 00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:14,960 is for private equity, and there's a number of professional 630 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,839 teams that many of our listeners, even the Yankees, the 631 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,880 San Francisco Giants, the Las Vegas Athletics, these are all 632 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,960 teams that have opened up minority stakes in their club 633 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,359 for investors to come in and so investors usually come 634 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,200 in with investments as low as one hundred thousand dollars. 635 00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:39,799 They have an expectation usually around fifteen to even twenty 636 00:28:39,799 --> 00:28:43,559 five percent per year return. The life cycles are often 637 00:28:43,759 --> 00:28:46,759 seven to ten years. And what I'm seeing on the 638 00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:49,680 professional level and with some of the funds that we've 639 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,039 been presented, is that these teams are looking to expand 640 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,880 more than just the game itself. They're getting into the 641 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,279 real estate around the stadium. They're getting into the hotels, 642 00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:06,319 the hospitality, they're getting into the marketing. Of course we 643 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,799 know about the media contracts, but the restaurants, all of 644 00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:14,359 the shopping around the stadiums. It's becoming much more than 645 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,599 just the game itself, and they want to open up 646 00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:20,400 pieces of the business ownership of the company and the 647 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,440 teams usually in five ten percent, but to investors so 648 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,960 that they can make an investment with an expectation for 649 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,279 a return on that investment. And there's some tax implications 650 00:29:31,319 --> 00:29:34,480 and benefits, but really it's more about that return on investment, 651 00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:38,960 their expectation to get a cash return for their initial investment. 652 00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting foray, no doubt about it. 653 00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: And so you know, you. 654 00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: Taught is the first program to jump into the first 655 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,599 domino to fall. Why do you think they move first 656 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,079 in all of this mess? 657 00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 6: Well, really, as I think about it, there's a couple 658 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,920 of things. But when we look at it from a 659 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,319 national scale, the Big twelve schools are tens of millions 660 00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:12,119 of dollars behind the SEC behind the Big ten and 661 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:18,279 annual revenue, we know that the new cost for the 662 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,599 media rights and the revenue shares about twenty and a 663 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,720 half million dollars a year. UTAH mentions that they refuse 664 00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:30,599 to raise student fees, cut sports, cut academic or research programs, 665 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,759 and that the status quo jeopardize their future. And so 666 00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:37,599 there's a few nuances things that I've read about this 667 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,640 deal that I'll mention here in just a minute that 668 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:45,319 I think give them some outs. But now they're wanting 669 00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:49,200 to maximize efficiencies from a business standpoint, from a private 670 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:55,319 equity standpoint on ticketing, events, sponsorships, inil distribution. So they're 671 00:30:55,359 --> 00:30:59,519 definitely commercializing that side even more, looking to enhance the 672 00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:05,440 efficientes of the business. Ultra Capital, which is the PE partner, 673 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,960 now owns a minority stake in the business. UTAH owns 674 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,359 most of it, and they still control athletics, whether it's coaches, scheduling, 675 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,680 who gets the Nile, etc. But I'm confident that it's 676 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,640 a to raise the bar within the conference but also 677 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,599 to improve their positioning across the country as a team, 678 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,240 and money and expanded resources are going to drive that. 679 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,240 There's some risk to it, but I see the reward. 680 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 3: What does this process look like? How does the deal 681 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,319 actually work? Utah had to essentially create a new company 682 00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:43,319 and separate their football program from their ad How does 683 00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:44,119 that actually work? 684 00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, from what I've seen, this is a test case 685 00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:50,599 really for the entire country. It's a first of its 686 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,640 kind partnership. Universities nationwide have been exploring this, and there's 687 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,440 been a few in particular. I know the Big twelve 688 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,119 considered this with a pe. The Big Ten almost did 689 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:08,119 a multi billion dollar deal with UC Investments. Kentucky and 690 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:14,759 Clemson have established internal companies for athletic business operations. From 691 00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:19,039 what I've seen and read, they have essentially sold out 692 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,400 a portion of the athletic department to a private equity 693 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,079 group who will now manage the business operations. And there 694 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,440 is one piece that I read to this that I 695 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:35,680 found very interesting and that's that UTAH can buy backtro 696 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,839 is the name of the PE group Ultra Capital stake 697 00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:41,720 in the future, and so I think that does leave 698 00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:45,920 them a good option to still have some control. But 699 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,359 they've established a board, a seven person board. It'll have 700 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,880 four Utah reps, two Ultra Capital reps, and then one 701 00:32:55,039 --> 00:33:00,480 university supporter or investor, and they'll run it even more 702 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,920 so like a business. And with that it's a for 703 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,480 profit business. So I'm sure there'll be some trickle down 704 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,319 effects to us as fans, but definitely the idea is 705 00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:13,160 bring in more money, maximize efficiencies, and expand their operation. 706 00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:18,079 Speaker 3: Crazy times, no doubt about it. What kind of returns 707 00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:22,880 do you think these private equity firms expect, right, I 708 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,839 mean you talked about a few numbers here, like what 709 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:28,440 are they looking at as far as an ROI for 710 00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:30,160 their private equity stakeholders. 711 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,279 Speaker 6: Well, most private equity funds target around fifteen to twenty 712 00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:40,720 five percent net internal rate of return and that's a 713 00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:45,440 two to five times multiple, so doubling or even five 714 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:50,200 times multiple on invested capital over a seven to ten 715 00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:54,960 year period. So these are higher risk, higher return opportunities. 716 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,279 They're not entering polished sports to simply stabilize. They expect 717 00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:05,920 significant commercial growth and that's why UTA's business operations, ticketing, sponsorships, 718 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,679 and il concessions will be run with professional, revenue focused deficiency. 719 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:12,679 And to answer your question, I would say they're in 720 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,960 it for at least twenty percent of year is what 721 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,679 I would expect that investors want to see with their investments. 722 00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:24,599 Speaker 3: I mean, you compare that to other investments twenty percent. 723 00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:29,039 I mean that's hard to hit that that mark twenty percent. 724 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,880 You talk to any investor, you say twenty percent return 725 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,000 on your money, they tell you there's no way, like 726 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,440 that's too good to be true. 727 00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 6: Well, absolutely, and private equity is known for being the 728 00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:46,039 type investment going for a triple or even a home run. 729 00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:49,400 There's higher risks, there's higher reward. And I'm just speaking 730 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,599 in general when I talk about those returns. I don't 731 00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:54,519 know about this one specifically, but I do know private 732 00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:59,280 equity funds target fifteen to twenty five percent. And you're right, 733 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,440 those are higher risk, higher returns. But maybe some of 734 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,679 the people will be doing it also because they can 735 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,599 support a program where they can support an entertainment that 736 00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:14,400 they like. We all know that we as a society 737 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,159 are the ones that push a lot of this. I 738 00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:20,960 mean it's we make memories together, we enjoy going to 739 00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:24,079 the games. There may be some I don't know if 740 00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:28,760 you call it altruistic, but maybe just some internal motivations 741 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,719 for some investors to support the program. But instead of 742 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,800 just going after a text right off, now they can 743 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,119 do it with an expectation for a return on investment. 744 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,960 I don't know how much of this will be opened 745 00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:43,239 up to every day investors. I know, even the fund 746 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,719 that we work with is pretty limited, so I don't 747 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,239 know how much of that will be shared or displayed. 748 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,360 But I'll be following it closely and interested to see. 749 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 3: Very intriguing private equity getting into collegiate analytics and write 750 00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:04,400 here in the great state of Utah. You've talked a 751 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,320 little bit about how players have felt underpaid for years. Right, 752 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,960 You've been involved in the last five years with the 753 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:17,599 student athletes representing these football players, basketball players. What is 754 00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:20,480 that feeling that you've gotten from them, like how underpaid 755 00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:21,079 have they been? 756 00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:23,039 Speaker 2: Do you feel well? 757 00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:26,039 Speaker 6: And that's why, just me personally, with my own perspective, 758 00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:30,320 I have been somewhat conflicted on this because I remember 759 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:35,400 even pre in IL, I remember players being mobbed for 760 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,280 autographs and interviews and then going back to extremely modest 761 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,119 living situations and conditions. And then I did feel like 762 00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:45,840 in IL finally gave athletes as a share of the 763 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,199 value that they create, the entertainment that they provide all 764 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,840 of us. But the cost of doing what's fair created 765 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,760 financial pressure that has led to deals like this where 766 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,800 now it's swamm back the other way. And I've always 767 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,960 referred college sports over professional, so to me, this is 768 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,559 definitely a step more towards professional. It's certainly seems right 769 00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:14,039 and fair for the players, especially coming from where they 770 00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:17,719 did pre NIL, but that pendulum is swinging, and it's 771 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,719 swinging hard back the other way, and this is a 772 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:25,000 huge step and commercializing college sports and maybe even losing 773 00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:28,800 some of those things that we liked before as fans, 774 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,840 but that probably weren't all that equitable to players. 775 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, you know, people got to they got to 776 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,239 be paid a fair market rate, right. 777 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,679 Speaker 2: We talk a lot about that on the show. 778 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,639 Speaker 3: It's you know, are we honest in our dealings with 779 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,199 our fellow man? Well, to me, being honest is given 780 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,039 a fair market rate for a fair day's work. 781 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,559 Speaker 6: Totally totally. And I remember seeing some of the players 782 00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:56,239 before and I would think, gosh, that's such a shift 783 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,639 where they got seventy thousand fans rooting for him at 784 00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:03,320 a game, and we know the hard work, and really 785 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,119 they're one percenters. I mean, there's not a lot of 786 00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:08,440 people that could go and do what they do, but 787 00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:12,800 yet they were so significantly underpaid before. And of course 788 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,599 there's been a lot of evolving that's taken place in 789 00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:19,119 the last five years. And I think this is just 790 00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:22,320 the new reality and the new world of college sports. 791 00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:25,559 And there's not much you or I or many of 792 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:28,800 us can do about it. It's just the capitalistic world 793 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,159 and the society we live in. And you know, certainly 794 00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:36,599 paying players and having them received more of that pie 795 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,760 to me makes a lot of sense. It wasn't. I 796 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,280 didn't like the way it was before either. 797 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:42,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. 798 00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:45,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's definitely a balance to it all, no doubt 799 00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:51,960 about it. As you love sports, right you know, you 800 00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:55,559 love college and professional I thought he's look like collegiate 801 00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:58,960 athletics as professional sports. Now are you are you worried 802 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,920 that that we're losing the identity of collegiate athletics right now? 803 00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:06,519 Do you feel like it's going too far to professionalism 804 00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:12,400 and transactionality rather than transformational in this collegiate world. 805 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,599 Speaker 6: Well, for me being honest, yeah, a little bit, I am. 806 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,280 I mean, I am one that has always enjoyed college athletics, 807 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,079 and I think we as friends and family haven't made 808 00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:31,119 many memories together around college sports, and we've always said 809 00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:35,159 we like the college athletes. They're playing for something. They 810 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,159 seem to care a little bit more. And I don't 811 00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:43,280 know if that'll go away, but it's definitely moving more 812 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,000 towards professional sports. And there's not really much that I 813 00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:49,760 can do about it, of course, but there is a 814 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,880 little bit of that fear, and I don't know if 815 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,719 there's anything we can do about it. But I'll still 816 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,599 be supporting our team and probably still more of a 817 00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:02,559 college guy than I am profession uh. But private equity 818 00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:08,039 coming into the college landscape is a step towards commercializing 819 00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:09,960 this in a way that we've never seen before, and 820 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,639 I think it will be different after this. 821 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 3: Blaine Anderson Certified Financial Planner, tax Mart Wealth Advisor n 822 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,119 f l P, A certified financial planner from Banterwealth, Batterwealth 823 00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:24,719 dot Com. Here on your Utah ESPN Radio network talking 824 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,239 private equity in sports. Uh is, well, let me give 825 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,320 me give me your takeaway right now, your final kind 826 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,079 of takeaway for listeners about private equity and in college sports. 827 00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:36,079 Is this going to be a good thing or a 828 00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:39,719 bad thing for the overall product, for the players, for 829 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,559 these universities as well. There's multitude, there's a there's multiple 830 00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:48,840 facets to this and multiple impactful parties or impacted parties rather. 831 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a I've thought about that a lot, and 832 00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:56,719 I think this will definitely become a trend. I think 833 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,880 we'll see more of it. I didn't like the way 834 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,239 it was before, and especially getting to know some of 835 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,920 the players on a personal level, I remember feeling like 836 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:12,679 something had to be done about their situations. So I 837 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,639 do see this as maybe even an over correction in 838 00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:17,639 a way. But like I said, I don't think there's 839 00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:19,119 much we can do about it. I think it's the 840 00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:22,760 new reality, and I'm surprised you taught me in the 841 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:29,280 first really significant private equity investment in the country. My 842 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,079 take on it is that it was bound to happen 843 00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:34,599 at some point. I do like that it's now more 844 00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,480 transparent and everything's on the table. I think that gives 845 00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:41,039 a university like US, even at BYU, more of a 846 00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:43,599 competitive edge, and we're seeing that the last couple of years. 847 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,880 I think my response to that, Ben would be, I'm 848 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,320 still a believer in a capitalistic society and this is 849 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,519 just one way that this is materializing and demonstrating itself. 850 00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:57,280 So at the end of the day, I've got to 851 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,679 be supportive of it. It applies to my greater principles 852 00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:01,599 and view on life. 853 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 3: Love that man, well, we all know b YU ain't 854 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,119 getting into the private equity game, right like. 855 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 2: You don't ever see that happening. 856 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 6: Not necessarily. I don't think that they, I mean, at 857 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,119 least right now, it doesn't seem like they need it 858 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,679 quite as much. I mean, there seems to be pretty 859 00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:21,239 good support. But who knows. This could be like the 860 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:29,280 N I L and and materialize and even developed quickly 861 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,559 and like it's like it did with N I L. 862 00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:36,199 Speaker 3: Yep, Let's we'll see how it all plays out. I 863 00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:38,800 think b WA's in a great spot all things considered. 864 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,920 I think this move from the from the University of 865 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,679 Utah is UH has been a bit pressured by by 866 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,239 us UH moves in the NIL space and how the 867 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,559 donors have rallied in my opinion, so we'll see how 868 00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:55,400 the the what the reaction is up on the hill 869 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,639 and how it ultimately pays dividends for those stakeholders. But Blaine, 870 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,679 appreciate our time together. 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