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Speaker 2: Handle here on a Juneteenth Thursday. And before we get
Speaker 2: to the story of the bunker Buster bombs in Iran,
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Speaker 2: Now we've been hearing a lot about these bunker buster bombs, right,
Speaker 2: and it is a but it may be more than
Speaker 2: one bomb. It is the GBU fifty seven Massive Ordnance
Speaker 2: penetrator bomb. And a few things about this bomb. It
Speaker 2: has to do with mainly one facility in Iran, four Drow,
Speaker 2: that has the centrifuges that create or manufacture the weapons
Speaker 2: grade uranium purify uranium. Iran says this is all for
Speaker 2: peaceful purposes, even though it won't allow The International International
Speaker 2: Atomic Energy Commission in will not let them go in,
Speaker 2: and they have there's no reason to have these centrifuges
Speaker 2: do what they do unless you're producing weapons grade plutonium
Speaker 2: or uranium.
Speaker 3: So here's what happens.
Speaker 2: The only way that these bombs can be used is
Speaker 2: to be delivered by an American B two bomber. Unlike
Speaker 2: all the other armaments that the United States gives to
Speaker 2: Israel or gives the Ukraine, it's here, have these weapons.
Speaker 2: We're not getting into it. No boots on the ground.
Speaker 3: No attacks.
Speaker 2: Well, guess what if the President decides he's going after
Speaker 2: this and this is stopping Iran from creating an atomic weapon.
Speaker 2: And everybody is scared to death about Iran creating an
Speaker 2: atomic weapon. Why because there's very little doubt the second
Speaker 2: Iran gets it, it unleashes a bomb against Israel.
Speaker 3: All it has to do is have one, just one.
Speaker 2: Israel cannot afford that, and Natanyahu said, We're not going
Speaker 2: to let it happen. A couple things about the bomb itself.
Speaker 2: It's thirty pounds. You look at it, it's twenty feet long.
Speaker 2: It's not that big, and it doesn't have that much
Speaker 2: explosive in it. It's not this monstrous bomb. The reason
Speaker 2: it is thirty pounds. It is almost hardened steel that
Speaker 2: when it drops and it hits the ground, it burrows
Speaker 2: itself into the ground because of its enormous weight and
Speaker 2: then explodes at a given altitude or in this case,
Speaker 2: given de altitude, and that can be the bomb can
Speaker 2: be configured. And this facility that Iron has is underground
Speaker 2: under a mountain, and the only weapon that can attack
Speaker 2: this facility is this bunker buster. And the President has
Speaker 2: gone from we're not going to get involved to all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, he's getting closer and closer of sending
Speaker 2: in the B two bomber. And it's not just one.
Speaker 2: Is one going to do it? Probably not. What will
Speaker 2: happen is what the military experts are telling us. They'll
Speaker 2: be one dropped, it may not, might not go down
Speaker 2: all the way, and then they have to drop another
Speaker 2: one right on top of it. I mean, can you
Speaker 2: imagine how tight those dimensions are. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: you're you're putting a needle, and then you're dropping a
Speaker 2: needle on top of a needle, and it may take
Speaker 2: several and it will take it out and then it explodes.
Speaker 2: It is manufactured, it is designed for this kind of attack.
Speaker 2: And one of the things that you'll notice is that
Speaker 2: Iran has no friends, none when it comes to this.
Speaker 2: No one has come to the aid of Iran. When
Speaker 2: Israel attacked Iran, no one. Now, when Israel went after Gaza,
Speaker 2: Hasbelah went ahead and attacked Israel and Hesbelah was decimated,
Speaker 2: that's gone. The huties attacked Israel, they're for the most
Speaker 2: part gone. In reality, the all the allies, these proxy armies,
Speaker 2: these proxy forces is that Iran has have. They're out
Speaker 2: of the picture. Iran can't rely on them anymore. Iran
Speaker 2: is on its own. Does that change if the United
Speaker 2: States goes ahead and attacks Iran?
Speaker 3: Right now, no one is hitting American forces.
Speaker 2: We have forty thousand troops in that entire region, and
Speaker 2: everybody is leaving them along for fear of the United
Speaker 2: States will get involved. Now that the equation may change
Speaker 2: if the United States attacks Iran. And then we talked
Speaker 2: earlier about the fact that MAGA is split right down
Speaker 2: the middle because the President came into office saying we
Speaker 2: are not going to get involved in foreign wars or
Speaker 2: foreign affairs. And now he is saying, we may very
Speaker 2: well get involved by unloading this weapon against the Iran
Speaker 2: nuclear facility, and he's getting closer to that point. He
Speaker 2: has gone from we're not getting get involved to following
Speaker 2: the Tanyahu's path and his comments saying we cannot let
Speaker 2: Iran have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 3: It's that simple.
Speaker 2: So if I had to guess, yeah, it's going to happen,
Speaker 2: and then all hell is going to break loose and
Speaker 2: we'll see how many people or how many of Iran's
Speaker 2: allies are going to get involved, and frankly, they're all
Speaker 2: scared to death of Israel. They have did not understand
Speaker 2: that Israel, especially intelligence has they way underestimated. Israel has
Speaker 2: gotten into these societies. I mean, their intelligence is incredible,
Speaker 2: and of course their military might. Everybody's aware of that
Speaker 2: tiny little country, nine and a half million people versus
Speaker 2: what sixty eighty million people around it, all hating them,
Speaker 2: and some of those people arguing and stating that it.
Speaker 3: Is the destruction of Israel.
Speaker 2: That's their primary target, it's their primary philosophy in life.
Speaker 3: So we'll see. Do I think they should Yeah?
Speaker 2: I do only because you know, hopefully we had some
Speaker 2: video of this thing blowing up, and that's hugely entertaining,
Speaker 2: you know, in the end, you know, it's just it's
Speaker 2: a great video, you know, great visual. Oh kaboom. But
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of fireworks.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Iran and the US because
Speaker 2: we're about to get involved in a very big way
Speaker 2: if the President decides to unload that bunker buster bomb
Speaker 2: onto the nuclear facility in Iran. And we actually have
Speaker 2: a pretty complicated history with the Iran and I want.
Speaker 3: To share a little bit with you.
Speaker 2: There was in August nineteen fifty three there was a
Speaker 2: prime minister Democracy Democray. He was elected Mohammad Messagadhi or
Speaker 2: Masadig and he was nationalizing the oil industry. And all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the CIA, in cahoots with the brit
Speaker 2: said no because there was the Anglo Iranian oil industry,
Speaker 2: in which the same thing we did with the Saudi
Speaker 2: Arabian Saudi Arabia before.
Speaker 3: They nationalized it.
Speaker 2: We just don't like other countries nationalizing industries when we
Speaker 2: rely on them. Reed oil and we have been particularly
Speaker 2: in a hostile relation for literally decades, so August twenty three.
Speaker 2: August nineteen fifty three, Mosadeg gets tossed out by the CIA.
Speaker 2: The CIA is involved and the Shaw of Iran is
Speaker 2: put in with American help.
Speaker 3: The Shaw of.
Speaker 2: Iran was very pro America, very pro Jewish by the
Speaker 2: Jews did really great in Iran. The rest of the
Speaker 2: people in the country didn't do so great.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of poverty.
Speaker 2: There was unbelievable amounts of corruption that were going on.
Speaker 2: The Shah had a secret police, the Savakh, and it
Speaker 2: was you said anything against the government. There was there
Speaker 2: were arrests, people disappeared, people were murdered.
Speaker 3: It was not fun.
Speaker 2: So that went on until nineteen seventy nine when the
Speaker 2: Iranian Revolution happened where the people.
Speaker 3: Overthrew the Shah.
Speaker 2: The Shah had cancer and was going around the world
Speaker 2: trying to get treatment. Came the United States, got treatment,
Speaker 2: didn't work, ended up in Egypt where he died well.
Speaker 2: During that period of time, the Iyatola Komeni is now
Speaker 2: on an airplane. He happened to be on an air
Speaker 2: France airplane and flew in to Tehran and the whole
Speaker 2: country welcomed him with open arms. That's nineteen seventy nine
Speaker 2: the revolution, and right off the bat it was we
Speaker 2: hate America and Iran had become has become an enemy.
Speaker 2: So nineteen seventy nine revolutionaries outs, the Shaw and American students,
Speaker 2: if you remember, those were taken into captivity. And that
Speaker 2: was in January of seventy nine when the Humani new
Speaker 2: Humani government took place. And so the Revolutionary Guard, those
Speaker 2: that were part of bringing Humanian were so pissed off
Speaker 2: that the United States welcomed the Shaw for medical treatment.
Speaker 2: Mind you, it was humanitarian. This was Jimmy Carter's call.
Speaker 2: They were so pissed off that on November fourth, fifty
Speaker 2: two Americans were taken hostage and Carter tried to rescue them.
Speaker 2: You remember that, a horrible situation that happened in the desert.
Speaker 2: The two helicopters were flying in to rescue the hostages,
Speaker 2: and they were at the very very edge of their
Speaker 2: ability in terms of the flight time and the amount
Speaker 2: of fuel they had, and it was a real, real
Speaker 2: it was a risk of which Carter lost. And Carter
Speaker 2: is basically known for that failure. He has some extraordinary successes.
Speaker 2: The Camp David Accords, he put together the putting together
Speaker 2: of Egypt and putting together with the Palestinians, and it
Speaker 2: just worked out well. And that was the best relations
Speaker 2: that Israel has had in the Mid East with the
Speaker 2: Arabs or if you will, with Palestinians. And Carter received
Speaker 2: the Nobel Prize for that as well as I think
Speaker 2: Nwar Sadat also received the Nobel Prize. Well, that all
Speaker 2: went to hell in a handbit ask it when this
Speaker 2: rescue attempt failed. And this is what Carter is known
Speaker 2: for now. It was that much of a debacle. It's
Speaker 2: like LBJ. Instead of being given credit as being the
Speaker 2: most pro civil rights president we've ever had in the
Speaker 2: history of United States, he's known for Vietnam and that
Speaker 2: that story. In any case, nineteen eighty nineteen eighty eight,
Speaker 2: Iraq invades Iran and the Iraq Iran War goes on
Speaker 2: for eight years and the United States backed Saddam Hussein.
Speaker 2: After eight years, I don't know how many millions of
Speaker 2: people and millions of young men died and nothing was gained.
Speaker 3: They declared sort of an armistice piece.
Speaker 2: And then we had the Iran contray story where nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty one, this is under Reagan, the US secretly sells
Speaker 2: weapons to Iran. Iran has now been deemed a terrorist organization,
Speaker 2: terrorist government, and arms were sold to them in secret
Speaker 2: American arms to fund the contra, the contras in Nicaragua,
Speaker 2: the Iran contra affair that Ronald Reagan got interesting enough,
Speaker 2: he got away with it in terms of reputation, and
Speaker 2: it was and he just straight out lied, he denied it,
Speaker 2: and then he just straight out lied. And so ever
Speaker 2: since that period, Iran and the United States have been
Speaker 2: at odds. We have had a horrible relationship with Iran
Speaker 2: and they're now they've been deemed a terrorist government, supplying arms,
Speaker 2: supplying intelligence, supplying money, train terrorists all over the world,
Speaker 2: mainly in the mid East. The arms that guys that
Speaker 2: has Alas has from Iran, Hasbollah from Iran, the houtis
Speaker 2: from Iran. Iran is the center of all this been
Speaker 2: described as the head of the octopus. And are we
Speaker 2: ever going to have a relationship with your on? Yeah,
Speaker 2: when there's regime change. And I tell you there's a
Speaker 2: story in the law Es actually a Wall Street Journal
Speaker 2: that Iranians that live in Los Angeles and there was
Speaker 2: a huge population of Iranian Jews that live in Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: and we have friends that were The synagogue we had
Speaker 2: was about a third Iranian. Jews always made fun of
Speaker 2: the chandeliers they had at home, and they are desperate
Speaker 2: to go home to Iran and at least visit family
Speaker 2: that are still there.
Speaker 3: How is that going to happen? Regime change? Is it
Speaker 3: going to happen? Who the hell knows? Okay, I don't
Speaker 3: know if that helped.
Speaker 2: As I discussed that I'm switching gears a little bit
Speaker 2: because I wanted to do this story. I'll do the
Speaker 2: Democratic Party following apart a little bit later on. And
Speaker 2: this is an article in the Atlantic in which a writer,
Speaker 2: a woman she had her mother died and she had
Speaker 2: to write the obituary. And obituary writing is very strange.
Speaker 2: It's not strange, it's difficult. And usually when families family
Speaker 2: member dies, you go to the funeral home and part
Speaker 2: of the services they ask you where they place an
Speaker 2: ad in the obituary page of the newspaper. I read
Speaker 2: the obits all the time because there are many biographies now.
Speaker 2: They are sycophantic as hell, and they're coying and triaquy.
Speaker 2: And here's what we thought we would do, and that
Speaker 2: is using AI because that's the new thing. What I
Speaker 2: asked and to do is come up with mock obituaries.
Speaker 3: A lot of you wish that were.
Speaker 2: True, mock obituaries of Neil and me.
Speaker 3: And I'm going to start.
Speaker 2: My part is easy and went obituary, mock obituary of
Speaker 2: Bill and it was four words, Bill was a dick
Speaker 2: and that was it.
Speaker 3: But there may be a little bit more to it.
Speaker 3: I'm going to start with Neil.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the oh bit of Neil that the
Speaker 2: AI wrote. Okay, It's titled Neil Savedra, beloved radio host
Speaker 2: and voice of faith, dies at fifty five. Neil Savedra,
Speaker 2: the longtime host of The Folk Report and producer of
Speaker 2: The Jesus Christ Show on KFI, passed away on June tenth,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, at the age of fifty five. A
Speaker 2: cherished voice in Southern California radio, Neil was known for
Speaker 2: his wit, warmth, and deep commitment to thoughtful conversation, whether
Speaker 2: discussing the joy of food, the complexity of faith, or
Speaker 2: the power of music. Born in Los Angeles nineteen sixty nine,
Speaker 2: his journey into broadcasting began early, driven by natural curiosity,
Speaker 2: sharp intellect and love for authentic human connection.
Speaker 3: Boy is Mine going to be Different.
Speaker 2: Over a career that spanned decades, he has become a
Speaker 2: beloved figure in Time radio, his shows offering a unique
Speaker 2: mix of entertainment, insight, genuine heart. As host of The
Speaker 2: Fork Report, Neil celebrated the culinary word with contagious enthusiasm,
Speaker 2: spotlighting local restaurants, culinary trends, and the simple joy of
Speaker 2: breaking bread. This is when AI really fails. By the way,
Speaker 2: I want you to know that. As the voice behind
Speaker 2: that Jesus Christ show with a producer, it tackles questions
Speaker 2: of faith, doubt and spirituality with humility, empathy, and clarity,
Speaker 2: making space for listeners from all walks of life, and
Speaker 2: the signature sign off be kind to one another.
Speaker 3: It's complete. Okay. Well that's why I hope people are
Speaker 3: kind of okay.
Speaker 2: It's more than a phrase, it was a life philosophy
Speaker 2: beyond the studio. Neil was a man of deep passions,
Speaker 2: avid lover of music, special fondness for punk rock, a
Speaker 2: genre that matched his authenticity, energy, refusal to conformed expectation,
Speaker 2: and whether discussing the rows spirit of classic track or
Speaker 2: discovering something new. Music was a constant source of inspiration
Speaker 2: and joy in his life. Neil is survived by his
Speaker 2: beloved wife, Tracy and their son Max. By the way,
Speaker 2: if you just tuned in, this is a mock obituary
Speaker 2: that AI produced that yes, survived by his beloved wife
Speaker 2: Tracy and their son Max.
Speaker 3: The light of his life.
Speaker 2: He was a devoted husband and father whose love for
Speaker 2: his family was evident in every story and in every
Speaker 2: quiet moment he cherished at home, Boy is mine going
Speaker 2: to be different? He also leaves behind countless friends, colleagues,
Speaker 2: and loyal listeners who were touched by his generosity, humor,
Speaker 2: and wisdom. Neil Savadra often said life is meant to
Speaker 2: be tasted, and so are women.
Speaker 3: No I added that uh.
Speaker 1: Matter with you?
Speaker 3: Pledged to get into.
Speaker 1: Real for you, buddy't too real.
Speaker 2: He lived those words every day, not the women part life,
Speaker 2: savoring each moment with passion, integrity, and heart, and invited the.
Speaker 3: Rest of us to do the same.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's Neil's mock o bit done by AI.
Speaker 3: How do you think? Uh? Oh, this is yeah?
Speaker 1: Neil, how do you feel incredibly humbled that computer would
Speaker 1: find any.
Speaker 2: Pretty pretty impressive, to say the least. And so uh
Speaker 2: and the reason.
Speaker 3: That I'm going to be sad I want to earn that.
Speaker 2: No, I understand, but this is what people have to
Speaker 2: do when they write O bits, not the newspaper that
Speaker 2: already has obits out there.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's what people have to do.
Speaker 2: If you were to die, I hope Tracy would ask
Speaker 2: me to write your O bit, because it's sure as
Speaker 2: hell wouldn't sound like this. I guarantee you. All Right, now,
Speaker 2: it is Neil's turn to read the oh bit that
Speaker 2: AI wrote about me.
Speaker 3: I originally thought it was four words. Bill was a dick.
Speaker 3: It is not.
Speaker 2: It's actually a little bit more complex than that. So Neil,
Speaker 2: if you would please read the oh bit upon my death,
Speaker 2: to the joy of so many people currently listening to
Speaker 2: the show the heading.
Speaker 1: William wolf Handle, a Los Angeles radio staple, dies at
Speaker 1: seventy three. William wolf Handle, longtime radio personality, attorney and
Speaker 1: devoted father.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, that's the start. Okay they way.
Speaker 1: On June tenth, twenty twenty five. He was eighty seven
Speaker 1: seventy four. Before becoming a household voice on KFI radio,
Speaker 1: Bill began his career as a lawyer, where he not
Speaker 1: only practiced law, but made a lasting impact in the
Speaker 1: field of family formation. He was a pioneer in surrogacy law,
Speaker 1: helping countless parents build families through assisted reproduction twenty five,
Speaker 1: work that brought meaning and purpose to his legal career.
Speaker 1: Bill went on to spend thirty one years on the
Speaker 1: eraic KFI Hopefully, where his outspoken style, sharp intellect, and
Speaker 1: fearless commentary drew a loyal audience and stirred conversation across
Speaker 1: southern California.
Speaker 3: I wrote this one myself. We didn't need AI for
Speaker 3: this goy ahead.
Speaker 1: He never held back his gas, and people loved him
Speaker 1: for it. Whether you agreed with him or not, you
Speaker 1: always knew where he stood. Off the mic. Bill was
Speaker 1: just as passionate in his personal life. He was a
Speaker 1: dedicated father to his daughters, Pamela and Barbara, and remained
Speaker 1: close with his former wife Marjorie.
Speaker 3: And that's true.
Speaker 1: We don't know her name, even as he built a
Speaker 1: new chapter with his beloved wife. What's her name?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say new as opposed to beloved, but
Speaker 2: let's move on.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really say what's her name?
Speaker 3: Does it? No, okay.
Speaker 1: He adored dogs, collected opinions like souvenirs, and took special
Speaker 1: joy in simple pleasures like spending hours at Costco, his
Speaker 1: unofficial second home. In recent years, Bill often talked about
Speaker 1: retiring to Italy, drawn to the country's beauty, culture, and directness,
Speaker 1: qualities he valued deep, deeply.
Speaker 3: Just too.
Speaker 1: Bill will be remembered for his booming voice, his wavering convictions,
Speaker 1: his generosity, and his unique ability to balance controversy with compassion.
Speaker 2: In his memory, is that did they actually go and
Speaker 2: did you put my name in there? Because this does
Speaker 2: not sound like me compact and it just doesn't work.
Speaker 3: They have to spin it in a positive way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's an O bit. That's true, Neil, you
Speaker 2: want to finish it up, go ahead.
Speaker 1: In his memory, adopt a rescue doc, help someone start
Speaker 1: a family. No, it was that it say what you
Speaker 1: really think? Or just take a long stroll through Costco
Speaker 1: with a list.
Speaker 2: Oh well, that is okay, now you've added that. Is
Speaker 2: there more that the actual O bit?
Speaker 3: That was it? That was it?
Speaker 1: I read all of this wod commentary I did not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, wow, fair enough.
Speaker 2: So if you have someone die in your life or
Speaker 2: in your death then and you're asked to write an obit,
Speaker 2: which people do throw in AI. You know I should
Speaker 2: do one for my mom when she died. She lasted
Speaker 2: way too long. That's the way I would start, all right.
Speaker 1: I don't think I would be that.
Speaker 3: Mean some mean.
Speaker 1: Isn't it weird that AI has its afric. It was
Speaker 1: very strange that a robit had a heart talking about you.
Speaker 3: Uh, scary, isn't it? All right? That was fun? That
Speaker 3: was fun.
Speaker 2: You know, if you really want to have a good time,
Speaker 2: and I'm talking to all of you in radio land,
Speaker 2: go to do it right your own or have h
Speaker 2: the AI or have chat GPT or whatever. Write your
Speaker 2: o bit and mock obit and find out and you
Speaker 2: feel good about yourself because obit's are coining, they're too sweet,
Speaker 2: they're treacly. Uh, no one ever says uh. You know, lawsuits.
Speaker 2: You know, Bill has been sued dozens of times. The
Speaker 2: reason Bill is far has far less money than he
Speaker 2: would have had is because of all the settlements.
Speaker 3: I mean, on and on and on.
Speaker 2: Bill has been to court only five times in his career.
Speaker 3: All is a defendant.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot to be said that The old
Speaker 2: bit does not say, well, all right, I'm.
Speaker 1: Probably gonna have to write yours anyways, and then I'm yeah,
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nobody's going to be at your funeral, certainly not. You know,
Speaker 1: your wife's gonna be in Italy whatever with her pool boy.
Speaker 1: That's true, and the rest of us will be wandering
Speaker 1: the halls of Costco.
Speaker 2: That's true in memory. In memory. This is kf I
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