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<v Speaker 1>About thirty minutes away from our Utah football pregame coverage,

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<v Speaker 1>Porter Larson former youth quarterback Jordan Winn will take over

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<v Speaker 1>starting at four thirty or so, and then they'll send

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<v Speaker 1>it down to Bill Riley, Scott Mitchell, and Shot o'caddle.

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<v Speaker 1>Shan's in for slide tonight as Utah takes on Arizona State,

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<v Speaker 1>so stay tuned for that here on your home of

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<v Speaker 1>the Utes. But joining us now the man who dropped

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<v Speaker 1>some very welcome news around these parts yesterday, Brett McMurphy,

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<v Speaker 1>who reported that Cam Rising will start tonight at Arizona State.

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<v Speaker 3>Brett, Happy Friday, sir. How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>If you guys would give me five dollars for every

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<v Speaker 2>time he played that song? Would I be a millionaire?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you would, and so would I. We all would be, Brett.

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<v Speaker 1>But you do understand we've been waiting for this kid

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<v Speaker 1>to play for a few weeks now, so everyone's very excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I was told you that he was actually

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<v Speaker 2>really close last the last game, But ultimately I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know specifically, but I think maybe not enough

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<v Speaker 2>you got enough practice work in possibly, uh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, you know, after the Baylor injury. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>after the injury against Baylor, I was told, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was the ring finger on the throwing hand, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and others have reported that also. I was told there

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<v Speaker 2>was some stitches involved. I do not know how many.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, for the next couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>I was told that there was some some swelling there

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<v Speaker 2>that that didn't go down and that was limiting his

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<v Speaker 2>ability to talk. Obviously grasp the football. You gotta have

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<v Speaker 2>a grip if you're going to throw it. And now

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<v Speaker 2>I was I was told, you know, he's he's good

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<v Speaker 2>to go for uh, you know, I guess in a

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<v Speaker 2>few hours, which, of course, when I tweeted that, there

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<v Speaker 2>was the automatic reaction like, yeah, we've heard this again.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not We're not going to believe until we see it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, that's that's what I was told. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's huge for for Utah because you know, basically

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<v Speaker 2>that that lost to Arizona, you know, you you don't

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<v Speaker 2>you can lose again and make the college football playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>but that means you've got to win the Big Twelve championship.

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<v Speaker 2>If you went out and then lose that Big Twelve title,

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<v Speaker 2>game and you're eleven and two, you've got a legit

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<v Speaker 2>shot for a large bid. But there's there's no way

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<v Speaker 2>a Big twelve team with three losses that does not

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<v Speaker 2>win the Big twelve is going to get in. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Uta is kind of in a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the cliche back against the wall and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>rising being back, hopefully you can stay healthy the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the way. You know, I think that this schedule

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<v Speaker 2>sets up nicely. You know, if you get in November

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<v Speaker 2>where you get harder than expected at Colorado game obviously, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know b YU is going to be b YU

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<v Speaker 2>and then Iowa State, So Utah is in a good position,

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<v Speaker 2>but that Arizona game kind of put him in a

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<v Speaker 2>tough spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Brett, I don't know how fast this then, just

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<v Speaker 1>to ask it out of you know, the concern that

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<v Speaker 1>folks have around the market. I am not questioning your reporting.

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<v Speaker 1>We're both in the same business and I would never

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<v Speaker 1>do that to you. But there is a healthy amount

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<v Speaker 1>of skepticism that exists around here.

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<v Speaker 3>We will see it when we believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>When the first team runs out tonight on offense, if

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<v Speaker 1>Cam's under center, then.

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<v Speaker 3>Most folks will say Okay, yes, this is correct.

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<v Speaker 1>So how confident are you that when Utah takes the

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<v Speaker 1>field tonight, Cam Rising will be under center?

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<v Speaker 2>So the same I'm as confident as when I reported

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<v Speaker 2>Gonzaga was doing a PAC twelve, and nobody believed me either.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did not get this information from the same source.

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<v Speaker 2>But the source that told me he wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 2>play against Utah State, same source that told me wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>playing against Oklahoma State, same source told me that it

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<v Speaker 2>was doubtful against Arizona. I did not report the Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>news because for various reasons, And the same told me

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<v Speaker 2>he's starting against Arizona State. That's all I can go by,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, until he walks out on the field and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll all know. But again, I don't take these things lightly.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I have never reported all year that he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to play or he was not going to

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<v Speaker 2>play unless I knew that, And you know, I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>reported he was going to play anytime until there was

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake game. You know, I didn't report he was

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<v Speaker 2>playing at Utah State, Oklahoma State, Arizona. I know. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the Utah beat guys are in the press

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<v Speaker 2>box and the season taking first team reps and like

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Rising's playing, and I knew he wasn't, But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna I'm not gonna call out other people and

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<v Speaker 2>say you're wrong. So yeah, I mean, how confident And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm confident enough that I reported it. I don't take

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<v Speaker 2>that lightly. I can report a hundred things correct, I

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<v Speaker 2>get one wrong. Nobody's going to remember the hundred things

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<v Speaker 2>I got right. They're going to remember one thing that's wrong. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, unless something happened from I think I tweeted

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<v Speaker 2>it around three or four Eastern yesterday. Unless something has

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<v Speaker 2>happened between three and four yesterday and tonight's kickoff that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not aware of, then I'm one hundred percent sure

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<v Speaker 2>that he will start.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously that's what we all hope, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we all want around here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll follow over this.

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<v Speaker 1>Did your source indicate just simply how healthy Cameron is?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we expect to see one Cam Rising? Are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to roll with a bit of a compromise Cam

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<v Speaker 1>Rising over a healthy freshman as his backup? Any any

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<v Speaker 1>intel on just how right Cam is tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Right enough that he's back in the starting lineup. But

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<v Speaker 2>I did not get any specifics on you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>he struggles, if things don't go right, if you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if he's not one hundred percent, you know, did it?

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<v Speaker 2>How quickly do they make the change? I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have that information, So I'm not going to speculate

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<v Speaker 2>and pretend like I do because I don't. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just being honest with you. I don't have an answer

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<v Speaker 2>to that question.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't suppose you have any information on the health

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<v Speaker 1>of Karenne Reid and Connor O'Toole, right, two very important

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<v Speaker 2>I for me, as a national guy, quarterbacks are so

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<v Speaker 2>much more important. Yeah, so no, I didn't. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I could have checked on that, but no, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's so many different schools I try to

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<v Speaker 2>keep keep an eye on, and obviously quarterbacks and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>rising you know, situation as obviously you know pretty big.

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<v Speaker 2>I reported earlier today Hudson card perdue he's out. So

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<v Speaker 2>I usually focused more on the quarterback or skill position

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<v Speaker 2>unless it's, uh, you know, obviously Travis Hunter is a

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<v Speaker 2>defensive player with somebody that would warrant that type of attention.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, sorry, no help there, No.

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<v Speaker 3>All good, All good. So you referenced this a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the the backup quarterback situation a year ago

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<v Speaker 1>for Utah was rough.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Nate Johnson, it was Bryce and Barnes, then

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<v Speaker 3>it was both of them. At time.

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<v Speaker 1>Isaac Wilson, a young eighteen year old freshman, was able

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<v Speaker 1>to get them a winning still Water, which right now

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like a good win. A couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona rolls into town and they smacked Utah pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>But with what you've seen so far, Vegas has Utah

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<v Speaker 1>second right now in the odds to Iowa States.

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<v Speaker 3>I would imagine you would tell the.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks around here you still believe yous are among the

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<v Speaker 1>favorites to win this conference and go to the CFP,

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<v Speaker 1>even with all the injury stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's I think you know, Cam's a

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<v Speaker 2>big part of that. And you know before the season,

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<v Speaker 2>I picked you, Tad to win the Big Twelve go

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<v Speaker 2>to the College Football Playoff. You know, after the lost Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got Iowa State now my projections. Actually, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be surprised if Iowa State actually loses to West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just look, you guys may or may not

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<v Speaker 2>know this. I'me you know, grazro Cloma State. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a Big twelve guy. I've been saying this since June.

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<v Speaker 2>The Big twelve. I'm afraid it is not going to

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<v Speaker 2>get a second team in the college football playoffs. I

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<v Speaker 2>just think they're gonna everybody's going to beat it, get

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<v Speaker 2>beat up on each other. But yes, certainly, I think

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<v Speaker 2>Utah is in a in a as good a spot

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<v Speaker 2>as anybody. I'll be fascinated to see what Colorado does

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<v Speaker 2>against Kansas State. You know, Colorado is a lot better

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<v Speaker 2>than I expected. And certainly, you know, maybe people overrated.

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<v Speaker 2>You see F that they handled you see excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>you see f very easily. Are they a legit contender

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa States? You know contender? I mean, heck, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about all these teams. Texas, Texas leaves leaving the league

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<v Speaker 2>at three and oh what I'm talking about Dan? So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's I think it's very simple. You can't lose.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can lose two conference games and then

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be You're going to be in a

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<v Speaker 2>tiebreaker to get into the conference championship game. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't see Utah losing more than two more conference games.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I said earlier, if you get to that

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<v Speaker 2>conference title game at ten and two and you lose

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<v Speaker 2>that game in your three losses in your large team,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way they're going to take a big nothing

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<v Speaker 2>against Utah. I could be any Big twelve team you want.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way the selection committee has taken a three

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<v Speaker 2>loss Big twelve team over a three loss Alabama, Georgia, LSU,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and go through the laundry list of Big

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<v Speaker 2>ten and SEC teams. So that's why it's imperative if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to have a little you know, margin for air,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will is to get that championship game with

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<v Speaker 2>one loss. If the Big twelve has two eleven to

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<v Speaker 2>one teams in that game, then I think the runner

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<v Speaker 2>up's got a very good, very very good chance of

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<v Speaker 2>getting in. But unfortunately, I would be stun even though

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about Texas Tech being undefeated, I would be

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<v Speaker 2>stunned if both teams in that championship game will only

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<v Speaker 2>have one loss.

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<v Speaker 1>So, as you know, Brad is one of the pre

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<v Speaker 1>eminent newsbreakers in our business. And Brett McMurphy from the

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<v Speaker 1>Action Network as our guest. He is the man who

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<v Speaker 1>broke the news yesterday. The Cam Rising will be back

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<v Speaker 1>under center tonight. He has reaffirmed his report here on

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<v Speaker 1>the program today. As a man who breaks news, you're

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<v Speaker 1>aware they're trying to get injury news from Utah football

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<v Speaker 1>is like trying to parachute into Kremlin.

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<v Speaker 3>It's impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kyle Whittingham maintains that by withholding injury information from

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<v Speaker 1>the public, he gets a competitive advantage with his football team.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that line of thinking, but I don't agree

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<v Speaker 2>with it. I think, you know, and I've talked to

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<v Speaker 2>different coaches about this, not specifically Kyle, but and I look,

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<v Speaker 2>I love Kyle, He's one of my favorite coaches. I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that mentality, but I don't. You know. You may

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<v Speaker 2>be able to give me some examples. But off the

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<v Speaker 2>top of my head, like what team when you go

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<v Speaker 2>to your backup changes what they do offensively, You're still

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<v Speaker 2>running the same offense. Yes, it's a different guy, he's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, several other of the college analysts, several of

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<v Speaker 2>game is a one hundred and eighty degrees different. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>you go into the go into NFL, you know facility,

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<v Speaker 2>and you say, hey, what's what's the status of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they like, Okay, he didn't practice, he's this, he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>are upfront and all that. And obviously you get both

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember. I did a story a couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>ago basically making fun of all the schools that don't

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<v Speaker 2>put out depth charts. I believe you Todd does, but

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, you know, there were probably like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>chart because coaches are so paranoid. And like I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to different you know, ESPN analysts, Tom Lougan, Bill and

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<v Speaker 2>different guys, and he's like, look, all these coaches have

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<v Speaker 2>recruited against everybody. The people are in the portal, they know,

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<v Speaker 2>they know the personnel. Why don't you put on your

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<v Speaker 2>freaking a piece of paper who the starters and backups are.

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<v Speaker 2>It's for some reason college coaches are so paranoid about that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you had, you know, everybody in the

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<v Speaker 2>Harvall was coaching the Harbor wouldn't do it, so then

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<v Speaker 2>other coaches wouldn't do it. I think it was Mexico State.

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<v Speaker 2>The first week they played somebody, they had their depth chart.

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<v Speaker 2>The next week they played Minnesota. It was Minnesota's opener.

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<v Speaker 2>New Mexico State second game, Minnesota didn't put out a

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<v Speaker 2>a depth chart in week two, although they did in

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<v Speaker 2>week one. So that's just kind of the asinine things

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<v Speaker 2>that these coaches are thinking. I understand what Kyle saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, you know, the SEC now has a standardized

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<v Speaker 2>everybody doing that, then maybe some of these college coaches

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<v Speaker 2>will be more upfront with this. I mean, they'll have

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<v Speaker 2>to be or they'll get fined. But I guess to

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<v Speaker 2>answer your question, I don't think it's an advantage at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's more mentally. I think maybe it's more

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<v Speaker 2>it's a game, and you know what, I just know.

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<v Speaker 2>This is me. I'm in Florida, Okay, this is me

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<v Speaker 2>from a distance a million miles away. I've heard a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people that are actually down on Utah. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's the best way I can describe it. Not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>the players or anything like that, but just the way

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<v Speaker 2>that they have and I guess it's Kyle's the guy's top.

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<v Speaker 2>The way that they've handled the injuries you know last year,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the whole every week well, we don't know

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<v Speaker 2>about about Cam. He may may. They never just flat

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<v Speaker 2>out said that the guy's done for the year. Like

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<v Speaker 2>just I'm you guys experienced it, you were at ground zero.

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<v Speaker 2>How much easier your life would have been? And just

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<v Speaker 2>the constant you know, oh it's Friday, is Cam in

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<v Speaker 2>or out? And there was never any you know, official

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<v Speaker 2>statement that, look, this guy's not going to play or

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<v Speaker 2>he's not gonna he's out until we tell you he's not,

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<v Speaker 2>he's coming back, and that I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people for what it's worth, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know got turned off by that, but I understand,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's thinking I don't agree with it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>understand why he's doing it, and he looks he's not

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<v Speaker 2>the only guy.

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<v Speaker 3>That does it right.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's actually where where I want to follow up,

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<v Speaker 1>because you are correct that there is a big portion

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<v Speaker 1>of this community, a big portion of the fan base,

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<v Speaker 1>a big portion of donors and boosters and season ticket

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<v Speaker 1>holders that pay money to the program to support nil endeavors.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reports are.

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<v Speaker 1>Cam is making in the neighborhood of two million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and they have been turned off at the way this

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<v Speaker 1>thing has been handled. Let me ask you, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>right way to handle a situation like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't necessarily think there's a wrong or right way.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess part of it, which leads into this, this

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<v Speaker 2>distrust and kind of frustration, is when you put when

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<v Speaker 2>you run and look, Dylan, oh you did this. When

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan Gabriel was there, eat Texas, they ran them out,

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<v Speaker 2>had them take snats with the first team of pregame warmups.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's going crazy. Dylan Gabriel's starting, Dylan Gabels starting, They

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<v Speaker 2>go in the locker room, that come out, He's weren't short.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like it's playing games like that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>did Texas change their game plan because Gabriel was in

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<v Speaker 2>pregame warm ups? No, they didn't. But it's like stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. So the right or wrong way, that's impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed that that. Again, I haven't I haven't heard

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<v Speaker 2>all of Kyle's press conference this on my Cotenna have,

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<v Speaker 2>but I heard him mention something like week two, three

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<v Speaker 2>four somewhere in there, somebody was asked about Cam and

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<v Speaker 2>he basically said, if it's a season season ending injury,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll tell you. But other than that, we're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about injuries. Well that's great, But did he

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<v Speaker 2>not have that policy last year? That would be the

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<v Speaker 2>question I have. But I don't necessarily think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>right wrong. If it's a season ending injury, then yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to come out and do it. The stuff

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<v Speaker 2>about the depth charts I talked about. I talked to

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<v Speaker 2>Mac Brown about that. I talked to Jetfish he was

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<v Speaker 2>at Arizona then. But like, look, these guys should be

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<v Speaker 2>recognized as having won the starting job. You should you

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<v Speaker 2>should listen them in the depth chart. You shouldn't play

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<v Speaker 2>games don Don Brown of UMass first game of the

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<v Speaker 2>Year last year, five players listed he had or four

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<v Speaker 2>times Joe Smith or Joe Smith or he had five guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, you got five guys listed as your starting quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know it's it's college football. Until we get

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<v Speaker 2>a uniformed availability report, I guess from memphisiit up with it,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I don't I don't necessarily think there's

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<v Speaker 2>a right or wrong way, But I think when you're

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<v Speaker 2>when you know a guy's not starting and you run

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<v Speaker 2>him out there first team, taking first team snaps, like

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<v Speaker 2>Cam did. I don't remember if it was Oklahoma State

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<v Speaker 2>or another game and he's not going to start. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's kind of Look, it's everybody wants a competitive edge.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that's neat. You really don't need.

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<v Speaker 1>To do that, all right before he set you loose,

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<v Speaker 1>And you just alluded to other examples. But I'll follow

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<v Speaker 1>up with this because we kind of get into our

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<v Speaker 1>own echo chamber around here, and coach wit takes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of criticism and people say things like he's the

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<v Speaker 1>only one that does this and he's very much not.

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<v Speaker 1>So just how in place Brett is this approach across

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<v Speaker 1>the landscape of college football.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I gave you, I'll give you. I gave you

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<v Speaker 2>a dealing. Gabriel went out pregame warm ups. He was questionable.

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<v Speaker 2>First team pregame warm ups, they went into the tunnel,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you Texas. They came back out. He's wearing shorts.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't play C. J. Jefferson when he was at Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing, pregame warm ups, first team taking all the snaps,

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<v Speaker 2>go to the sideline, opening kickoff, takes off, this helmet

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't play the entire game. That's too off the top

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<v Speaker 2>of my head. If if you would have gave me

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<v Speaker 2>time before before the call. I'm sure I could have

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<v Speaker 2>I could have thought of a dozen of those. So

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<v Speaker 2>it happens a lot. It happened, happens very frequently in

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<v Speaker 2>the the thing. I think that's frustrating for me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure what's fans is and I don't Again, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not I'm believing. I'm I am. If it sounds this way,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean it to sound a sway. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>railing on Kyle. I'm gonna make that very clear. I

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<v Speaker 2>know some coaches have done this, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if he has or not, where they come out and say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't talk about injuries because of hippo, because of

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<v Speaker 2>the hippo laws. Yet the same coach the next week

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<v Speaker 2>will come out and say, oh, well, you know Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>Smith broke his leg. He's out for the year. Well

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<v Speaker 2>what happened what happened to your hippo rules there? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like when they want to use that, they use it.

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<v Speaker 2>When they don't, they don't. Again, It's just it just

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<v Speaker 2>boils back to college coaches just have a different mindset

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<v Speaker 2>regarding injuries that they do in the NFL. I mean, Heck,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some coaches that, you know, when a kid's hurt,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll be up front and say, look this kids, this

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<v Speaker 2>kid's out, he's not going to play. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>hopeful to get him back, we're you know. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>just when coaches are inconsistent that's probably the most rating

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<v Speaker 2>for me, and I'm sure frustrating for fans is they'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about injuries one week about a certain player, and

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<v Speaker 2>then another week they clam up and say, well, that's hip,

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<v Speaker 2>but we can't talk about it or you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't discuss injuries unless it's a season season ending injury.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Brett, you made a lot of people happy around

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<v Speaker 1>here as you reported. The Cam Rising will be under

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<v Speaker 1>center tonight. So I appreciate your time, having an excellent weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Love to have you on again.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, so I guess we can expect Wilson to

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<v Speaker 2>take first team snaps in the pregame and then and

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<v Speaker 2>then Cam comes running in who knows, ye never know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks Chate, I'll be watching.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>There he is Brett McMurphy, college football insider now with

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<v Speaker 1>the Action Network. Spent a number of years with ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>Brett reported yesterday that cam Rising will be under center

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<v Speaker 1>tonight for the University of Utah.