Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of the Typical
Skeptic Podcast. I'm really excited about my guests today. I
have with me the amazing Jim Gerard. Jim's been on
my show at least thirty times. He's one of the
most frequent guests on my show. Jim's the author of
Diis Code Divination, and he's also the author of the
book The Matrixes the Glitch. And tonight he's gonna be talking,
We're gonna be showing a new painting that he's done.
We always, we always pre premier his paintings here, you know,
the paintings that he does. And then we also, you know,
we'll also talk about a topic too, And the topic
from tonight is a reading he got from the year
twenty sixty. So tell me that's not gonna be awesome. Yeah,
to hear what's going on in the year twenty sixty.
I don't think I'll be around in twenty sixty. I mean,
I hope I will, but I mean I don't know
what kind of condition I'm going to be and if
I am around in twenty sixty. But Jim, thanks so
much for coming back on. Man, how are you good.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on again.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Man, what is this the thirty second time you've
been on my show? Or how many times you think
it's been.
Speaker 2: Forty one?
Speaker 1: Forty one? Holy shit, man, that this has to be
a record. You might be the most You might be
the most guests.
Speaker 2: On all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna hook up this microphone.
Speaker 1: Hold on. Okay, good work it. Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, So yeah, so yeah, I was gonna
show your painting first, let me see if I can
share my screen and uh and uh and let me
see here, I'm gonna I'm gonna I am gonna share
my screen.
Speaker 1: Hold on, so I'll do you share share, share, screen share.
So it looks amazing. Not not much different stuff in
this one, just uh, just like patterns, geometric shapes and
stuff like. Uh, did you want to get into it
a little bit?
Speaker 2: Okay, there it is. Yeah. I just wanted to do
something that was nice to look at and was geometric
and sort of colorful.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Does it represent anything to you?
Speaker 2: Uh, it's it's sort of a copy of a pencil
skitch that I did some years ago and tried to
reproduce it with paint.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for some reason as like a toll tech don
Juan feel to me too?
Speaker 4: It looks kind of ASTech Yeah, yeah, it's it's interesting
right in that sense, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is there any other like hidden meanings in it?
But what you can think about?
Speaker 2: No, it's just uh, I like doing these kind of
paintings because they're very easy to do. I can do
the uh, the outline in three or four days, and
then a month later it's completely finished.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The other paintings take four to five and sometimes six months.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, okay, well, so it's an amazing painting, it
really is. It's uh, I'll stop sharing now, and uh
let me see here, let me stop there, And did
you want to talk about your and those are some
of the paintings you did behind you that Some of
those are amazing, like I see, uh, which one was
that with the tree? Did we cover that one with
the tree in the star?
Speaker 2: Yeah? A tree of Knowledge I did for Sonia Testament.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah we did cover it. Okay, yeah, yeah, ok.
Speaker 2: The interviewed me and she explained all of the images
and what they meant. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's cool. Okay, And so what this have
been reading from twenty sixty that you came across.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've seen a lot of science fiction movies about future,
and they were all very depressing doomsday sort of apocalypse
kind of you know scenarios, don't I don't like any
of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I came across a remote viewer and he was
talking about a remote view that they went to the
two thousand and sixty and they were saying that people,
you know, cities were more like villagers, and people were
growing gardens, and that the government was very, very reduced.
And my guess is that they were using artificial intelligence
as a you know, like a law enforcement.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: Wow, So what people didn't travel in the future? He
was saying, Wow, who said this? Who had this fromout?
Speaker 1: You did?
Speaker 2: I wish I should have wrote it down. It wasn't
Claudie Clark's uh claudey Braun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, wasn't him. Yeah wow, So does this give you
hope over the future or what do you think?
Speaker 2: What do you what do you do? They it was
the only version of the future that I ever saw
that was optimistic.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah. Yeah, It's usually it's all doom and gloom,
right for most predictors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're usually very boring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they are right, Yeah they are. Wow, man,
let me think of it. That's interesting. Uh yeah, And uh,
have you been doing any more dice code divinations or
did you have any Did you have any interesting dice
readings besides that?
Speaker 2: I did a reading today.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Somebody was talking about capturing evil spirits into a glass
bottle with honey and vinegar, and so I did a
reading to find out the reason why, you know, glass
and honey and vinegar could capture these evil spirits into
a glass bottle. And what the reading said was that
several decades ago, some sorcerer cast the spell and placed
the curse on these evil spirits and said that they
could be captured in a glass bottle with honey and vinegar.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's cool, that's roquel. I wonder if there's some
as I wonder if it works. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know, uh, you know, it's hard to
figure out why glass itself would do that honey and vinegar. Yeah,
none of those thirty seconds. Well, you know, I'll probably
capture a spirit, but a spell that was not in
the form of a curse might have been the reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really good point. Yeah. Yeah, and guys,
we're not live on Rumble right now because we had
to do this on zoom and it was a short
amount of time. Yeah. Well, I was gonna say, is
there anything else you've been researching that you kind of
want to talk about? We can get into whatever. You know.
Speaker 2: Did you get to write up about disclosure?
Speaker 1: Let me look for it right now, because for whatever reason,
I might have not got it. I got twenty sixty
yantra and then I got David Wilcock mystery. Let me
for me, let me look up Jim Gerard and disclosure,
or on me look up your email and see what
came up. Like, maybe you could send it to me again.
I don't know, it's not showing up right. Of course
it wouldn't show up, you know, because that's the lucky.
Speaker 2: Have yep, find it. I'll have to send it again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you could send it. It's not even shown
up in my AI overview from our emails. It's saying,
you know. July sixteenth, Jim shared a reading from twenty
sixty uh, and then July sixteenth, and then the last
time anything I got before July sixteenth was in may
I got the astral shaman and divine trickster. So I
never got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll pull it up and I'll spend it.
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, while you're while you're sending that,
why did you title the the the the the painting yantra?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Is it something like mantra yantra.
Speaker 2: Yatra means visual mind truck.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. That's cool. I love that. That's
a really cool. Uh yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, Okay, I just send it to you in
an email. It's called the UFO Landing.
Speaker 1: H m hm. Now there it is. I got it, okay, okay,
Oh hold on, let me see what's going on here.
Oh my email is messing with me. Let mean, let's
see if I can read it.
Speaker 5: On my.
Speaker 1: Oh my phone. Okay, I got it here, I got it. Okay,
I'm gonna try to screenshare it so we can we
can all read it. I'm give you one second. Sorry, Okay, share,
it's here to share again. It's it's moving in circles.
It's ice computer. I gotta get fixed. There we go, Okay,
it says, Okay, I'm gonna read this, guys. This is
just right up on disclosure. This should be really interesting.
UFO landing and massive could provide the solution on many levels.
The TV series X Files is something I've revisited and
watched over again several times. That's interesting. You say that
because Pink Bela Aloha is also watching back episodes of
X Files too, and she's finding a lot of disclosure
in it too. But he says they addressed the human
alien hybrid issue that aliens walk amongst us in unseen
because they pass for human. If they were to leak
out in an official capacity, the backlash can result in
mass panic, lack of trust between individuals, and catastrophic destructions
civil war or global war. If UFOs landed in a
massive field with hundreds of thousands of witnesses and cameras
and crews, the human alien high issue could be addressed
and act as a buffer to curtail the panic. If
celebrities and world leaders were introduced to the masses in
a delicate manner, the public might warm up to the
hybrid idea rather than to go into a state of
shock and become resistant and rebellious. Someone would have to
be picked to representing humanity to the ets. I would
think the landed and Nan would be the first choice,
although I would prefer William Henry for his extraordinary knowledge
and level of sincerity. There would be lots of counter
issues coming from numerous sources, despiting everything. The very best
strategies would have to be chosen along with the best representatives.
The question arises whether or not a landing of this
nature could easy happen easily and spontaneously without global lockdown,
doing it with force and would attract the forceful of reaction.
Doing it with force would attract a forceful reaction. I
don't know what the disclosure strategy is, or if there
even is a strategy. You would have to create more
than a buffer one buffers and to deal with it,
not only with the human alien hybrid issue, but the
issue that all trillions of dollars went to. When Rumsfield said,
we don't know where those trillions went to, I said,
I know where they went, into the power of pockets
of whoever took it. They could sugarcoat the issue and
claim we needed to build cosmic defenses in order to
deal with the threat of the et invasion takeover That
might actually work, or that they could be bluebee images
in the sky of holgrams at stage event with half
real technology. That's not a new idea or a new
unique concept, the one that's been floating around since bernarvon Braun.
Here's the tough issue. Who is responsible for the one
million abduction stories? Someone would have to present an official
proof that steers away from the group and points the
finger of blame towards Germany in the nineteen thirties. According
to Dan Cooper interviewed by lou Eisenhower, Germans beam down
to the White House in nineteen fifty two and forced
US officials to sign the abduction contract, which it was
supposed to be much less and different than what it
turned out to be in the end, and signed under
a state of duress, officials can't be held responsible for
deliberately initiating the contract or contact. In the cult classic
movie They Live Near the end, the bearded guy in
the tunnel down below says, the Roddy Piper and the
black guy, don't you get it. There's no countries anymore.
They control everything. There's no good guys. And then it says,
and then there's a remote view of the future twenty sixty.
We already went over this, but I'll read it anyway
says there's one remote year of the future that sticks
out it. Well, wait, first of all, before we read
the revue, I want to go over this et situation disclosure.
Do you have any comments on it or does anywhere
you want to go talk about, like, you know, see
if there's any comments from the audience. Yeah, not much
comments in the chat so far, but yeah, what do
you what do you think?
Speaker 2: Jim? My question is what's the plan?
Speaker 1: Yeah? If there is a plan right.
Speaker 2: Now, what's the plan for disclosure? How are they going
to do it? Yeah? Yeah? Is there going to be
nationline evings?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is that the plan?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Who's talking about having a plan. That's a good point,
you know, but I mean somebody listening, if they want
to write in, maybe they have some ideas about how
this is going to get done. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you're listening to the audience and you have a
comment on like, how do you think we could do
this achieve this disclosure.
Speaker 7: Let us know and I'll put your comment up and uh, yeah,
I think what's going to happen is I think if
there were if I think if there were to be
you know, if there if there were to be some
kind of contact with an extraterrestrial species.
Speaker 1: But say, I think we would need a human coalition.
I don't think it would be just one person, you
know what I mean. I think we should have a
human coalition, you know, but of people in our community,
by the way, you know, that would they would have
to address the aliens, you know, and they would have
to pick people from our community. They would have to
pick experiences because experiences are more familiar with the alien phenomena,
you know. So I wouldn't just want one person to
represent it, you.
Speaker 2: Know, well, there would be one person, you know, controlling
the whole group. Yeah, like a leader.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that could happen too, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the problem is is I think if if
they came down on land and you know, hundreds of
thousands of people got to see these ets like for
the first time, they might they might be so mesmerized
by the technology that they they wouldn't be addressing the
real issues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and the real yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2: So you know they probably mesmerized by time travel and
space travel and med beds and all these other things,
but you know, they don't get to talk about you
know what happened in the nineteen thirties and forties with
the Germans and what happened with the contracts and with
the abductions. Where did all the money go? You know,
how is there a secret space program?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know, what are they going to reveal to the public? Yeah,
how are they going to reveal it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2: How can they reveal it without looking like the bad guys? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: But they when they yeah, they are the bad Yeah
that when they are the bad guys at this point, right,
they absolutely are. I mean, but it's not it's not
even a question if they are. It's just like, you know,
like what did they let happen over the past? You
know that you know, we sent a couple of centuries
where people were getting abducted and you know, like you know,
manipulated with you know, and and and and and Yeah.
It's it's it's horrible, you know. And then that the
military has been doing it on top of all that too,
you know, the military.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in order they have disclosure, they can't come across
looking like the bad guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you know, how long can you dance around in
the rain and not get wet?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, well, that's that's why I feel like they're
trying to put out some kind of like controlled disclosure,
you know, something that that that doesn't you know, it
doesn't really give any meaning to anything. It's not it's
not providing anything of substance or anything you know, relevant
even you know, it's just it's just blips on a screen.
You know. Have you looked at any of the stuff
they put out at war dot gov this the UFO.
Speaker 2: No, I haven't seen that.
Speaker 1: Let's let's we can we can look at some of it. Now,
let's s's's let's check some of it. I mean, wait,
hold on, we can uh, I'll show you it. I'll
show you the uh hold on, let me uh war
dot gov slash UFO. Okay, so yeah, I mean I figure,
but that'll be something we can do. This is the
this is so they've come out gym so far, they've
come out with four unseilings of of uh you know,
let me let me share my screen, I mean, uh,
let me sure my screen? Is this recording? It should
be recording? Yeah, it's recording. Okay, okay, share. You're gonna
laugh at some of this stuff, Jim. It's hilarious, really,
it is. So this is it, Jim. It's a war
dot govslash UFO is the website, okay, And if you
see here, it says the Department of War just released
it's fourth trance of records under pursue. The first trance
was released May twenty six. Scroll down to see the
fourth trans released in July. When they say trans, they
mean set of foules. What they've basically released in is
fouls diagrams like like whatever this is? I mean, this
says Analysis of a Flying Object against the United States
nineteen forty nine. So undrew that. I guess that I
can't believe this. And then they're saying this is confidential.
This uh this, uh, I don't even know what that is.
It looks like a disc, but it looks like it
has some kind of it has some kind of uh
cover over it, you know what I mean, like a
like a like a like a like some kind of
human like a like a felt cover over it.
Speaker 2: You know. It says that's what Kennethinalds saw.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, this is this was from nineteen forty eight
Project sign. Uh. This is an unresolved UAP report YELLOWC.
It's a six pointed object It says the United States
INDO Pacific Command submitted a report of an unidentified anomalous
phenomena to the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office consisting of
eighteen seconds of a video footage from an infrared sensor
across the US military platform in twenty twenty five. You
know this this is you know this is this is
this is hilarious. Like I just want to show, you know,
like I could go to my friend Priscilla Lapierre from
Canada's UFO Evidence right now and it would literally put
this to shame, you know what I mean? Like she
she literally gets, uh, I guess that was it from
the fourth uh thing. I don't know if I'm I'm
missing stuff here or what, but uh, you know, A say, here.
Speaker 2: Where's the photos of the Sacred Space Program?
Speaker 1: I wish we do? Right, Yeah, I'm just looking. I
just clicked on fourth trans Okay, here's the fourth trans
of records. It says, uh lois Alamo's conference on Aerial
Phenomena in nineteen forty nine. This is a PDF, says
this document is a conference outed lost Alma selling TEMPIC Laboratory.
Attendees included several element scientists and physicists. Many of you
have contributed to development the first nuclear weapons project during Manhattan. Wow,
this could be interesting. Can I zoom in on it? Well,
I can't sit. I can't. I can't za him in
on it. I don't know that. I guess that's it
for that. This is a another PDF file. This is
analysis of Flying object in nineteen forty nine unresolved you
a pereport Yellow C twenty twenty five. This is a video.
Let me see the video. Check out the video. This
is this is the disclosure they're giving us.
Speaker 2: Jim. That's the thing that just showing photos of you
have follows from dead eeling and bodies.
Speaker 1: I thought they were supposed there. They were supposed to
but they're not. You know, it's it's it's really, it's really.
Let me stop sharing. Let me see if I can
pull up something. Let me uh, let me just show
you guys something, right so you guys saw how weak
that was from the government. Right now, if I just
go to like my friend, uh, let me go to
YouTube dot com. I just want I just want to
make the the the the comparison to show you guys,
like what I'm talking about, like what what what the
government has and what my friends, like Priscilla had, Like
she's getting up in Canada, like it's night and day.
It's night and day. It's uh, it's night and day.
It's uh, let me see if I can get it
from here.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She wants to know why they're not contacting her.
Speaker 2: Too, you know, and why who's not contacting her with.
Speaker 1: The aliens, Like the aliens aren't the aliens aren't. They're not.
They're not like they're not reaching out to her, you know,
they're not.
Speaker 2: Are they saying they used to?
Speaker 1: No, they're they're they're they're just there. She gets sightings
every night, she gets she gets sighting every night they
see here. Uh, this is I'll just show you guys,
her her channel here. Let me see if I can
get it up.
Speaker 2: This is her.
Speaker 1: This is her channel here, you know. But uh, you know,
she has all her your you you u a p
stories here. Some of it's in French because she's French Canadian.
Here's a green UAP over the horizon. So a lot
of this stuff is way way better than the government.
Like you'll get these pictures she's posting, guys down here
at the bottom, go time. There's a silver bullet craft like,
way better than anything the government is showing, you know
what I mean, Look at that, you know, way better
than anything you just saw on the government site. You know,
it's night and day. Actually it's actually night and day.
It is compared to compared to like what the government is.
You know, let's let's look get one of her shorts here.
Look at that, guys, and she gets this every night,
she gets it. I mean, you know, a lot better
than what the government's putting now, right, you know, night
and day, night and day. Here's a green UAP emerald towermant,
She says.
Speaker 2: Soul, have you interviewed anybody that has a plan?
Speaker 1: Not really, not yet? No, I mean, but do you
do you think they're gonna Do you think they're gonna
land soon?
Speaker 2: Well? I would think that, you know, they would come
down in mass landings, and uh, they would probably mesmerize
the public with their technology and avoid talking about the issues. Yeah,
unless unless they do talk about the issues. You know,
they could show some celebrities and some global leavers leaders
and say, look here's some celebrities that are hybrids. They're
half human and these world leaders are half half alien. Yeah,
so what are you concerned about?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, I mean that's a good point they could. Yeah. Like, now,
let me just see if we have any uh uh
a uh any any uh uh h any comments in
the chat? Uh there was there anything else you wanted
to coverage Jim a lot before we finish up for
tonight or is there any we can take questions?
Speaker 2: I guess Yeah, I want to show you a sketch
I did.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me see by Oh that is so cool. Well,
that's that's amazing. Holy ship, that's awesome, Jim.
Speaker 2: It's going to be turned into a and I'm going
to donate it to the Harry Christian Temple.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's cool. That's that. I mean, you you have
amazing abilities. Man, that's a you have like next level abilities.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've only been doing the Enyello pantings for three years.
Speaker 1: When did you first start realizing that you were had.
Speaker 2: Like a knack for art five years old?
Speaker 1: Oh, so you've been doing it that long you've been
you know? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And Mike, Yeah, I've been doing it my whole life.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: I shouted doing heavy detail when I was five.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, that's amazing that that that's a really detailed picture.
Speaker 2: Jim.
Speaker 1: Can we see it one more time. Yeah, that is amazing.
Who is that?
Speaker 2: It's the Black Krishna from India, from a village in India,
caulfar in Dobbin and the h all, the Harry Christian
devotees know all about it. That the name of this
deity is called Shima Sandara and sometimes it's called Rada
Shima Sandara because Rada's name is always mentioned first. Wow.
Speaker 1: That's cool. That is really wow. That's interesting. That congratulations.
That's going to be featured at the Harry Christian Temple.
That's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to take six to eight months to
finish it. Wow. I had to get an overhead projector
in order to draw the outline, which is going to
take maybe a month of true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, well man, you should do uh you should
live streaming, Jim, You should, you should? You should. You know,
if people do that, they live stream their painting. You
could be painting and you could, you know, just have
a live live streamer recording it.
Speaker 2: You know, I was going to doing something like that. Actually,
you know, I was also thinking about doing a video
of having somebody take me, you know, drive me to
the temple and uh, you know, having a conversation in
the car about you know, various things.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, that would be really cool.
Yeah hell yeah yeah, well wow, this is awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Which which which Harry Christian Temple is it?
Speaker 2: Uh? It's called Isha Khan and to National Society for
Christian and Consciousness and it's on seventy two Commonwealth out
in Boston.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that is cool.
Speaker 2: They have a free Sunday feast every Sunday.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: They feed out one hundred and fifty free meals every Sunday.
Speaker 1: That what a nice but what a nice gesture. Wow,
that is cool. Yeah. Well that's that's awesome. I'm happy
for you, man. That's really cool. Congratulations. Thanks, you know,
and I know that means a lot to you because
I know you. You know, you're you're big on the
Christian religion and everything, or not religion, but Christiana spirituality.
Speaker 2: You know. Well, I hope they accept it.
Speaker 1: I think they will. I think they will.
Speaker 2: I think so too, because you know, if it's done well,
you know, they could have accepted and put her on
the wall or whatever.
Speaker 1: Jim, you could submit it the way it is now
and they would take it. You could you could submit
it as that sketch and they would take it that
sketch is immaculate, bro, Like, that's that. Just hold that
up again, like the guys, look how amazing this is
in detail. That is amazing. That is so next level
that Bob Ross don't hold a candle to you, Jim,
Bob Ross does not hold a candle to you. Seriously,
Bob Ross is rolling over in his grave.
Speaker 2: Bob Ross couldn't show you how to do that one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely, he definitely can't. Man, that's next level talent.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I think you could submit it the way it is
right now, you know, for real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the the I think it's the second,
maybe the first or second version. I drew it twice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to keep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have the other one. For some reason,
I don't have the other one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, So I just wanted to read you some
comments from some people in the audience. So this woman
named my first original user name says that's beautiful. She
says Shiva would be smiling, and uh and then uh
uh Aaron Elizabeth says that is so lovely and then
say they both put a heart and uh. Yeah. So yeah, people,
people really waters view has just exclamation points, like, so,
you know, I think people people really like your painting
or your your sketch. You know, is that a sketcher
of painting or what? What is that like? Is that
it looks like a painting?
Speaker 2: It's a potential sketch?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay? So that wow? Wow, that's that's detail.
Holy shit.
Speaker 2: It's an eight by ten pencil sketch and it's going
to be transferred to a thirty six by twenty four painting.
But the painting is going to be done with enamel
pains and this was done with colored pencil. Wow, the
effect is going to be completely different. The colors of
the enamel pain are much brighter and much more lively.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, that's cool. Yeah, I can't I can't wait
to see it. So when are you going to get
started on it?
Speaker 2: The overhead projectors coming in on Monday or Tuesday?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: You know there's so much detail in that sketch that
I can't draw it by hannd onto a large canvas.
I have to use an overhead projector.
Speaker 1: What do you why why what does the overhead projector do.
Speaker 2: It blows up the image?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Now, what will you do will you like, do
you listen to music? Are you listen to like talk
radio or something or podcast? Why you while you uh?
Speaker 2: Are you paying? I usually I actually put on a
video of somebody talking in the background just to sort
of distract me while I'm doing that work. I do
that all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I listened to your interviews when I'm painting.
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, it's really cool. Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sort of sort of feels in the void
of the emptiness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's it's a lot of people tell me.
A lot of people tell me they listen when they
go to bed at night because they like to. They
they listened to the audio podcast tonight at for sleep,
you know, and they'll just put on the audio podcast
and then they can, like, you know, binge listen to
multiple episodes like you know. You guys can do that
on YouTube too, if you want. You can just go
under the uh the uh part. There's a podcast. It's
a it's a whistleblowers podcast under my playlist and you
can just access I had a new videos are there
all the time, so you know, yeah, but man, this
was a great show, Jim, Yeah, this was awesome. Yeah,
is there anything else you wanted to cover before we
could finish up?
Speaker 2: Or I just wanted to say that, you know, before
we did this, I was listening to the interview with
Jay Wider and I was trying to get some ideas
from him about disclosure, because he's got a lot of
good ideas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does. Right, it was, it was, it was.
It was a good interview, I think, right, Yeah, it was.
Uh he was uh, yeah, it was interesting for sure.
Speaker 2: You know, he's got a very clear mind and he
knows how to explain things.
Speaker 1: What what do you think happened with David Wilcock. Uh?
Speaker 2: I I have a feeling that he faked his own
death and they took him out of the picture because
he went as far as he could possibly go, and uh,
they just he just needed to exit.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a good point.
Speaker 2: But I don't think he's I don't think he's dead. Yeah,
that that whole thing was staged.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you heard, if you heard, in the last interview,
Jay said that that, uh, that he would never use
a gun. He didn't know a gun.
Speaker 2: No, he wasn't a gun type at all.
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's bizarre, right, that's uh, he wouldn't
even have a gun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, never mind us a gun, he wouldn't even have one.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: I know he's like to because I'm like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't like guns.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't like violence either.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, but so I'm going back to this UFO disclosure.
What do you think about the h the possibility of
the aliens making contact this year? Do you think it's possible.
Speaker 2: I think it's possible. Maybe this year or next year.
Speaker 1: You think that's what we're heading where we're like leading
up to.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's possible, but uh, you know who's
uh hold, I'm gonna connect my battery Okay, yeah, my
battery got disconnected for some reason. Yeah. I'd just like
to know who's arranging all of these things.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, you mean, like
all the disclosure releases you mean yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean it's the government going to make the plans
or are they going to compromise with the public how
they're going to do this.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a good point, it's a it's.
Speaker 2: A I don't know. It's at this point. I don't
think anybody knows what's going on with disclosure.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think anybody does. I think you're right. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, let's wrap it up and see what happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well yeah, well yeah, well I'll see you.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: Do you want to tell people where they can find you, Jim?
Speaker 2: And thanks? Yeah, yeah, you can post by my linic
on Facebook.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'll post your Facebook and yeah, and thank
you guys. And you guys can get Jim's books. He
has two books on Amazon, and uh there Dice Coat
Divination and the matrix is the Gwitch and and people
can give Dice code the information from you too, right Jim, Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay,
we'll reach out to Jim guys, and thank you guys,
and how