WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:05.040 You see somethings going to happen. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What What's gonna happen? 3 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:13.000 Tae? 4 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:22.719 What help? 5 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:28.359 Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode. You already know 6 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:29.879 what time it is. You already hit the click and 7 00:00:29.879 --> 00:00:31.480 you already clicked that. Buttons, you already know what the 8 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:34.759 show is about. Uh, we got the Moment Mafia Part 9 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:38.799 three going on today and today joining me while as 10 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:41.640 usual is the same people except minus Elisa. 11 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:43.880 Today she was unable to join us. 12 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:48.560 But today we still got Gin the Ninja, JJ Vance 13 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:51.240 and Heiti. But before we get into it, I'm going 14 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:53.679 to let them all, yes, plug. 15 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:54.600 Their own shows and stuff. 16 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:58.119 Gin please sir, let everybody know who may not know 17 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:00.000 who you are yet where they can front of your stuff. 18 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:06.400 Sure, thanks boss. So I'm on Twitter ex Lucomrie Born 19 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:10.239 or the show account at Threshold Saints, Spotify, Apple at 20 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:16.599 Threshold Saints episode with Drizzle from Grand Theft Radio out 21 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:20.719 on Monday, so tomorrow, and thanks guys for being on. 22 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:23.959 I've actually really enjoyed every episode that I've done with Heidi. 23 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:26.920 I've learned tons. Literally I walk away from the episode 24 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:29.640 with my head just swimming. So thank you guys, and 25 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:30.840 always a pleasure with JJ. 26 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:32.640 So hell yeah, talk on. 27 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:35.599 Thank you very much for joining us, Jen, and all 28 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:37.000 your links will be on the bottom of the show 29 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:40.519 notes and JJ Vance, my man, what is up? Please 30 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:42.239 let everybody know what your deal is and where they 31 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:43.000 can find your stuff. 32 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:47.480 Nick as always appreciate the invite. Jen. Always great to 33 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:48.400 join you, Heidi. 34 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:50.920 I'm always looking forward to discussing Mormon stuff with you, 35 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:55.840 JJ Vance, host of Operation GCD, Not the Vice President 36 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:01.760 Live every Wednesday night, Operation GCD Live seven pm Eastern Times, 37 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:06.280 YouTube Rumble and twixter and Friday Nights Fridays hosted alongside 38 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:08.680 the Occult Rejects. Here with Nick, we just do a 39 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:12.240 roundtable discussion on conspiracy culture topics with our guests. In fact, 40 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:15.120 we having Heidi's a guest on there here next as well. 41 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:16.680 Oh yeah, looking forward to that. 42 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:23.360 Thank you, JJ, And I am sorry all right, he 43 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:28.400 Love no no hold on? Yeah, yes, I will put 44 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:30.360 JJ's things at the bottom. But I did want to 45 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:33.319 introduce her because, you know, a big announcement on a 46 00:02:33.319 --> 00:02:35.479 new addition to the Occult Rejects We finally got Heidi 47 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:38.680 Love Unfiltered Rise podcast. I think she's a great researcher, 48 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:41.120 she's probably just as addicted to looking at the woman's 49 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:41.560 as I am. 50 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:43.960 So I love that, and uh, I just love the 51 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:46.479 work that she does. And I'm I'm very happy to 52 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:48.360 have a part of like the team and researching with us. 53 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:51.319 Thank you very much, thank you so much, thank you. 54 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:54.400 I am excited to be an occult reject. It makes sense, 55 00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:57.719 and to be on the board with all of you. 56 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:00.520 That actually is a really big thing for me. Thank you. 57 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:03.759 And I do have a cold today, so I'm sorry 58 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:06.159 about that, but yeah, got the best of me, can't 59 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:06.879 help it. 60 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:07.960 Its the best of us. 61 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:11.240 Yes, and so I am Heidi love of the unfiltered. 62 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:13.879 Iism everwhere podcasts are served. I do have my own website, 63 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:18.360 Unfiltered ricepodcast dot com. Check me out everywhere and twice 64 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:20.960 a week on Spotify, once a week on YouTube because 65 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:23.599 they hate my stuff. I'm happy to be here with 66 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:25.039 all of you. So thanks. 67 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:27.280 Well, at least you know, like with with the YouTube, 68 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:27.840 odds are well. 69 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:29.879 Then again, I think me and JJF even I've gotten 70 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:31.199 strikes and he hasn't. 71 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:31.759 For the same material. 72 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:34.000 But like I think, as long as you know that 73 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:35.960 the stuff I drop with you is okay on YouTube 74 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:37.240 A couple of weeks later, you could drop it. 75 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:39.360 It should be okay, you know, let's see it. 76 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:40.520 Good to you. 77 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:44.280 You can judge me and like people. I guess there's 78 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:47.400 an algorithm if you like normally talk about Mormons and 79 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:49.840 you're talking about like Mormons in Germany, for example, I 80 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:53.199 didn't get a strike that somebody else did, so it's 81 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:54.639 it's yeah. 82 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:56.759 Oh I did a live with White White Rabbit one time, 83 00:03:56.960 --> 00:03:59.639 you know, you know him, and I got a strike 84 00:03:59.680 --> 00:03:59.960 and he did. 85 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:03.159 Oh that's weird. 86 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:05.639 Yeah, we're both live on YouTube. That's the town. 87 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:10.159 But you know what, Yeah, you're like what And like 88 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:12.000 I said, you guys, I didn't want to cancel because 89 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:14.800 this is such a great timing for everything with the 90 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:18.600 JFK files. But my voice is a little crappy, so sorry. 91 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:21.759 Again, it's okay. So uh, I guess so where where 92 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:22.959 do we Where do you want to start off? 93 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:28.120 Yeah? Pull these files up if you don't mind. I'm 94 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:30.240 going to start out with them because that always helps 95 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:33.319 me keep my place. So we'll add those to the 96 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:36.800 stage and that'll be the easiest way to do. I'll 97 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:39.560 just minimize myself one second. Can you see that now? 98 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:40.040 Yes? 99 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:43.839 Okay, cool? So this is sir Handsor Hanna, and we're 100 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.160 going to talk about him today because we have to 101 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:50.959 talk about RFK is actually more connected with the Mormons 102 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:55.839 than even JFK or anybody, although let's admit, Mayhew's fingerprints 103 00:04:55.879 --> 00:05:00.240 are on everything every single time. So may thank you. 104 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.920 Quick little recap for people that missed the last one. 105 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:06.839 He is a critical part of the Mormon mafia, but 106 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:09.639 he really isn't Mormon. He just kind of got labeled 107 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:12.639 that way because he was one of Howard Hughes' main 108 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:16.439 people that took care of business before Gay. This guy's 109 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:19.399 name is Gay got put in and they kind of 110 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:21.319 had a little tiff and went back and forth. But 111 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:25.560 so he's critical. He's coming up in the new releases. 112 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:27.720 Of course that's going to take me ten years to 113 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.720 go through, but yeah, I have been going through a 114 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:34.720 little by little, and he's already coming up. But this 115 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:38.600 case even more so, I would stay with the Mormon connection. 116 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:42.560 And so we have more receipts on what exactly happened here. 117 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:45.439 This is a picture of Sir Hansir Han which he 118 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:47.800 is still alive, you guys, he is still in prison. 119 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:52.800 He actually was granted parole and then Newsoen said no. 120 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:56.600 And so this man is in his seventies. He has 121 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:59.319 spent the majority of life in prison, and it's actually 122 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:02.279 really sad when you find out his whole story. So 123 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:04.639 we'll start out with a little bit of his background, 124 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:06.879 because I don't think that you can really know somebody 125 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:09.720 unless you do that. So Sir hansor Han was born 126 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:13.639 March nineteen, nineteen forty four, in Jerusalem. He is Palestinian, 127 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:18.120 but he was Orthodox Christian. His mother actually worked for 128 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:22.480 the Presbyterian Church. And he saw some pretty horrific things 129 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:26.000 as a kid. And I'm going to just list these, 130 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:28.959 but this will come into play possibly later. His brother 131 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:31.319 was ran over by a truck and killed. His home 132 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:35.800 was bombed. He brought water in a pail for the 133 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:37.199 family and there was an arm in it. 134 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:38.079 Wow. 135 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:42.399 The home, Yeah, was destroyed. The sister died of leukemia. 136 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:44.959 The dad left an abandoned the family right after they 137 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:48.120 got here and went back to Jerusalem. So like, it's 138 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:50.360 not like this kid had an easy life. And now 139 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:52.519 we're going to add one more thing on top of it. 140 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:57.199 He's five o' four, so that's rough growing up. He 141 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:00.439 had Yeah, Yeah, he had a hard time, but he 142 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.000 put his shortness to like some good good works because 143 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:06.399 he wanted to be a jockey. And so you know, 144 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:08.920 if you're gonna do anything, you know, like that's a 145 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:11.040 cool thing to do. You don't have to do that, 146 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:12.639 but I'm just saying, like, that's a good way to 147 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:16.959 channel your energy. And he was, you know, the perfect build. 148 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:19.680 He was slight built, and he was not to be 149 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:24.759 a groomer of the horses. Not kids. 150 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.519 There too, and not even realized we're talking about horses. 151 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:32.560 Yes, yes, And he exercised them and he groomed them 152 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:35.680 and he just loved horses. And the funny thing is 153 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:38.759 is all the people that worked with him, all all 154 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:40.920 these things, they want to say, oh, he was this 155 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:45.680 radical Palestinian guy. He first of all, remember he's Christian. Okay, 156 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:49.079 it doesn't even make sense. They picked like, I don't 157 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:51.759 know what they did here was cracker Jacks. And then 158 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:55.040 on top of it, he was very interactive with all 159 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:57.920 the people at the racetrack. He would go out with 160 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:00.639 his friends. He was you know, fun. He would stick 161 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:05.279 up for people about like rights and trying to you know, 162 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:08.040 make it better for people that weren't from America. He 163 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:10.160 also hung out and was known that he went to 164 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:13.199 places like, okay, get ready for the left, topless bars 165 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:18.079 like the Briar Patch and the cat Patch. So he 166 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.600 did go out with his buddies to some fun places. 167 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:23.959 And the funny thing is, though, when you're talking about 168 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:27.240 these places, like especially in nineteen sixty six when he 169 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:31.839 was working here and at Del Rio, he was known 170 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:36.519 and hung out with mini mobsters. Okay, the mobsters were 171 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:39.399 kind of known to hang out there a lot. And 172 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:42.559 these people, you know, kind of hooked him up with 173 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:45.960 a better place to be than this one. And so 174 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:50.480 when he ends up getting a better job, he ends 175 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:54.159 up going to one of these places that were ran 176 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:59.600 by Desi Arnez, Desi Arnez, Buddy Epsen, and Del Robertson. 177 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:03.840 Funny enough, at the Grand Javista del Rio ranch. But 178 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:07.000 there he looks like it's going to be pretty promising. 179 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:09.639 I did try to find a photo, but they're all 180 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:12.159 weird and like it's a private ranch. So it was 181 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:14.720 it was like black and white pastures. It wasn't cool 182 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:18.639 like this one. And he was thrown from a horse 183 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:21.879 there and it forever changed his life. It probably led 184 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:26.559 him into this whole situation. So he actually lost consciousness, 185 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:29.679 was in a semi coma and had a residual and 186 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:33.759 this happened in September of nineteen sixty six, and so 187 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:38.120 he just was never the same after that, and he 188 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:42.639 just completely had tons of like personality changes, very much 189 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:45.679 so with you know, anything that you look at with 190 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:50.519 a frontal head injury for sure or TBI in general. 191 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:53.399 But yeah, it had been going on. This is from 192 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:56.480 the declassified papers, just because we're going to get into this, 193 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:59.759 but this is going to talk about him and what 194 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.879 he was doing during this time because he quits jockeying 195 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:06.440 and he ends up hooking up with this guy. And 196 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:10.279 this guy I can't find a photo of him at all, 197 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:14.759 and it was just really strange. And it's his really 198 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:18.519 good friend. And his really good friend is super older 199 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:20.639 than him. He's like in his forties and Sir hansor 200 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:26.440 Han's young in his twenties. His name is Walter Thomas Rathkey. Well, 201 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:30.200 they were already watching him for some reason, I'm not 202 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:33.519 really sure, but they had this and other things already 203 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:37.279 downloaded to FBI files before anything ever happened. Right, So 204 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:41.159 we're already looking at a Patsy situation. Sir hansor Han 205 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:45.360 had continuous pain in his left eye after this, and 206 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:49.480 he was looking for relief and was really into East 207 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:52.320 everything Eastern in the sixties, right, it's starting to come out. 208 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:56.039 It's like cool. He gets really into this friend at 209 00:10:56.080 --> 00:11:00.720 Amarak and Rathkey introduces him and he joins he becomes 210 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:04.440 a Rosicrusian. And this is like notated on that previous side. 211 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:08.000 If you guys look, it says so like there's receipts 212 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:10.360 there so that people don't say, oh, yeah, it's not 213 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:14.200 it's not true. He wasn't well. He was and he 214 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:18.200 was extremely interested in the occult and theosophy during this 215 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:21.679 time where he's like getting hypnotized and searching out to 216 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:25.440 be cured of this pain in his eye. And he 217 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:28.039 also wins a small settlement at this time from like 218 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:31.039 workman's comp and I mean remember it's the sixties. He 219 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:33.159 got like seventeen hundred dollars I think it was, which 220 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:35.559 he decided he's just going to like bet all his 221 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:37.320 money on horses and that that was going to be 222 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:42.320 a good idea TBI not a good idea. So he's 223 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:45.679 doing all this stuff. He's studying, but he's also like 224 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:48.200 blowing his money. His mom's getting worried. Everybody's kind of 225 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:50.120 getting worried about him at this point because he's hanging 226 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:53.919 out with his super older guy and it is rumored, 227 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:56.960 I don't know, we can't substantiate it as this says 228 00:11:57.159 --> 00:12:01.320 that he actually met Manly P. Hall and was hypnotized 229 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:03.559 by him for pain, so. 230 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:06.840 Hypnotize anything. 231 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.159 And here's the thing, this rath Key like really in 232 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:17.759 the sixties, I've found pictures of everybody else it's nowhere. 233 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:21.559 It is nowhere, and not even in the FBI files 234 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:24.840 with this nothing I had name is all over it 235 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:29.600 but him himself. No. So people are like, that's probably 236 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:33.000 very much his more de moorn shield. You know, this 237 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:35.639 guy's teaching him things and showing him stuff and then 238 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:38.519 you know, like disappears into the night and never had 239 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:41.440 a photo. That seems strange, especially when the police pulled 240 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:45.000 him in for interviews. I mean, there's some fishiness there. 241 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:49.399 But like I said, he was very interested in getting hypnotized. 242 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:52.039 He sought this out himself. And back then, as we know, 243 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:56.080 when they're doing the MK Ultra program, they are searching 244 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:00.159 for people in exactly that type of situation, and they 245 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:03.159 would be looking through, like you know, records of people 246 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:07.039 searching for help with pain or whatever for hypnotism to 247 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:10.279 see how well they were hypnotized. Although I will say 248 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:12.240 I don't think he stood a chance because we're going 249 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:16.840 to talk about why this guy. I'm so glad JJ's here. JJ. 250 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:18.960 Feel free to join me on this one in just 251 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:23.559 a second here, because this is really interesting. So this 252 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:28.960 guy is known to be one of the best hypnotists ever. 253 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:32.879 This is doctor William Joseph Bryant. He was the president 254 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:36.320 of American Institution of Hypnosis. He worked for the Air Force, 255 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.039 He was MK Ultra. He was in charge of all 256 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:43.799 this stuff, including the Boston strangler case with DeSalvo and 257 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:49.440 hypnotizing him. And it gets really interesting because, like I said, 258 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.600 he is out searching for all this stuff, and all 259 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:56.360 of a sudden, when he quits the racetrack and he disappears, 260 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:59.399 his mom is like, Uh, where's my kid because he's 261 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:03.039 only like me something and he goes into something called 262 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:05.559 the fog. And this is what they've named it. 263 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:05.879 Not me. 264 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:09.120 None of these things that are named or me, like 265 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:12.759 the Mormon Mafia. All that is other people naming this stuff. 266 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:17.000 So they said that this was three months where he disappears. 267 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:20.480 Nobody can trail him, not even a CIA or FBI. 268 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:23.440 They never said they knew where he was, which I 269 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:28.399 think they did, but that's fine. And William Joseph Bryant, 270 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:35.759 he's a character. He suddenly goes on at a later 271 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:40.039 point and goes on a radio station after this all 272 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:41.720 blows up because we all know what the end of 273 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:45.679 the story is and he dies like immediately after. He 274 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:49.039 actually died like pretty awesome, I have to say, Like 275 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:53.320 he died with two hookers in Vegas in the bed. 276 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:56.200 But it made a problem for him because I guess 277 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:00.039 he liked to talk, you know, and so this this 278 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:04.639 is a problem because he told these girls, hey, I 279 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:06.840 did this to Sir Hansar Hannah Da da da da da, 280 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:09.039 and you're gonna hear all about me soon. And he 281 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:11.480 kind of bragged himself up and then he died. He 282 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:14.799 was only in his fifties, but he was well known 283 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:17.120 for his services. I will tell you guys that he 284 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:21.039 was known to go in with actual CIA people, like 285 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:25.639 in a big boardroom with over thirty CIA and FBI agents, 286 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:28.840 and he hypnotized all of them like that quick. He 287 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:32.399 also was implicated with the whole mans and stuff JJ 288 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:35.399 anything on doctor the Good Doctor. 289 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:38.720 Absolutely, And I like to also add to the point 290 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:40.559 you made there of his death. I believe that was 291 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:43.639 his own sex hypnosis seminar that he was hosting there 292 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:46.639 in Vegas. He is the host of the sex seminar. 293 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:51.559 What a great thing for it, What a great thing 294 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:54.159 for ritual sex cult. You know, activity right to have 295 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:56.960 your own sex seminars with hypnosis, right, I. 296 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:01.759 Mean, like hello, harnessing of energy, brilliant, brilliant. It was 297 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:02.519 a smart county. 298 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:04.360 So I think those are to me. 299 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:07.360 That's why the most important characteristic of why he's connected 300 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:11.159 to the Manson storyline. So you just inadvertently identified Heidi 301 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:13.320 the top two suspects and what is known as the 302 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:17.039 head chin goon within the process for for Pie movement, 303 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:22.679 according to researchers such as Ed Sanders, who pegged mainly 304 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:26.159 p Hall as this character who would later lead this 305 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:32.320 kind of offshoot very ritual sacrifice, very sex rituals. 306 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:34.440 Going on, even more more extreme than other components of 307 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:35.240 the cult. 308 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:44.360 So yeah, girls, yeah, he was pimping those girls out right, 309 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:47.120 I mean, he what's what's often known about Manson is. 310 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:49.360 Prior to this whole era where he's got. 311 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:52.279 These women and to everywhere the Hollywood, you know, stars 312 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:55.799 and singers of Hollywood, he's running a modeling agency down 313 00:16:55.840 --> 00:17:03.320 on Sunset Strip, the star modeling agency. Hands all over it, right, Oh, 314 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:04.799 absolutely absolutely. 315 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:07.799 He knows some stuff like when you see him do 316 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:09.759 his little funny dance and I know we talked about 317 00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:11.880 this on our upcoming episode that I'm going to release, 318 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:14.599 but like people failed to see. They laughed and I 319 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:19.440 was like, wait a minute, what's he doing? He knew. 320 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:28.960 Exactly, Like, sorry, sorry, j no worries. I just want 321 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.640 to jump in really quick before we get too far away. 322 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.319 When he he was talking about your hands here hand 323 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:39.319 him being a jockey, or maybe possibly wanting to be 324 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:42.160 a jockey, but being around horses, there is something very 325 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:47.079 metaphysically implicative about that. You could say that there's a 326 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:52.880 especially for his rescrution connections, because the symbol of Saint George, 327 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:57.039 which is obviously the rosicrition saint. Even the term riding 328 00:17:57.079 --> 00:18:00.680 the dragon that can be a term in in sacks. 329 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:04.240 I'm not being funny. It can mean reverse cowgirl, but 330 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:06.759 it can also refer to looking at the icon of 331 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:10.559 Saint George the dragons Layer and saying that the drag 332 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:14.039 or the horse, excuse me, the white horse is in 333 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:18.119 fact the dragon at its higher potentiality. It's higher current 334 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:20.359 or higher frequency. So sorry, I just wanted to add 335 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:22.160 that really quick, and I'm done now. 336 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:25.039 Always interject you, guys, because I can't see you and 337 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:28.599 so I'm just seeing slides. So always always interject because 338 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:30.279 I think it's yea discussion. 339 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:31.720 Yeah, for sure. 340 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:33.839 If I may put a book in on some of those, 341 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:37.680 mainly p Hall and and uh and uh other other 342 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:40.240 you know notes here, I know Jene can speak more 343 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:42.720 to what I'm what I'm referring to. And this this 344 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:45.279 cult system that is alleged that mainly p Hall was 345 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:47.519 running by you know, by Ed Sanders, this this four 346 00:18:47.599 --> 00:18:50.279 Pie movement. But because it's a lot of Eastern mysticism 347 00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:53.279 of varying fashions that seemingly don't mix but are matched 348 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:56.680 together in their little system there and uh, you know, 349 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:58.839 it is interesting these are the years preceding this time, 350 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:00.799 so the process doesn't come until sixty eight. 351 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:03.519 But this is so this is seemingly Sir. 352 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:08.359 Han's interactions like to call him double, Sirhan, interactions with 353 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:12.920 these folks, you know, William Joseph Bryant and Manly P. 354 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:15.039 Hall in the years preceding that. Now, William Joseph Bryant's 355 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:17.880 connection to the Manson family would also have folks later 356 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:20.799 even at Sanders, looking into him being the possibility of 357 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:24.119 being this head chin Gon, which was a name Charlie 358 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:27.880 went by and was known by times as a Sorry, 359 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:29.440 he was known as the head chin Gon. I believe 360 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:31.440 these characters would be the grand chan Gon. This is 361 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:33.960 some sort of hierarchy of leadership though, but this ching 362 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:37.759 gon term goes back to Asias well. 363 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:40.599 And he specifically mentions, I don't know if you know 364 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:45.079 this not these are from his notebook, but he specifically 365 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:47.839 also mentions and I didn't take pictures of every single 366 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:50.079 page because they're a lot. And I do want to 367 00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:54.000 tell people there at sir Han researcher researcher dot com 368 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:57.160 if you want to see the full notebook. It's really repetitive. 369 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:02.559 And he does mention to me in his notebook just 370 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:06.039 to your points, what's that? Oh, it's like the top 371 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:09.759 top too, jin do you know about? No? 372 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:12.400 Oh? Sorry about that? 373 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:17.480 And I don't know, okay, So they just said it 374 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:21.079 was like the top top top, like kind of the 375 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:25.359 grand ching on in in like Theosophy Resicrucianism type stuff. 376 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:27.599 This is. They even said when I was researching it 377 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:30.279 that this was something they wouldn't speak of lightly and 378 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:32.640 normally would not even be brought up, which okay, they 379 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:34.000 played for the part why nobody knows. 380 00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:38.759 It took me a second, okay, I do understand. No, no, no, 381 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:41.720 it's it's it's it's I mean that's what it wasn't 382 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:44.119 that you're mispronouncing it. It's that I didn't. It didn't 383 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:46.160 click for me. So I think the word is like shinya, 384 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:50.519 like the French for bun, but it's also like the 385 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:53.640 it's also like the Buddhist like how you see when 386 00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:55.680 you see Buddha and he has his little curly hairs, 387 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:58.039 but he's got like a little bun that's called an 388 00:20:58.119 --> 00:21:01.400 ushinishni jaya, and it's that's what it's called the shinan. 389 00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:03.759 That's how it's often translated. So I think that's actually 390 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:04.559 what it's referring to. 391 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:09.759 Oh god, yeah, this one was. This one was let's see, 392 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:12.839 let me find it. The k t u m I 393 00:21:13.079 --> 00:21:16.599 master kato me and so I don't know, like I said, 394 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:19.839 other than what I studied. And people said that that 395 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:22.279 was like the top top and they didn't mention it's 396 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:24.559 its name hardly ever, that it was strange that he 397 00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:27.880 would even write it, that it's not even supposed to 398 00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:30.680 be like that. So these are all excerpts from his 399 00:21:31.559 --> 00:21:34.720 random notebooks, and most of them are like literally, Sir 400 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:38.200 Hanser Hanser, Hanser Hanser, it's really weird, like it's just 401 00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:42.599 repetitive and crazy, like these were the most important ones 402 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:46.680 I felt for me. But I did provide the link 403 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:48.759 there so people can go see that, and if you 404 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:50.759 want to add it in Nick, I'll send it to you. 405 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:54.480 But like I said, you can see Illuminati here. You 406 00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:59.759 can see that right here. It's weird. He repeats just 407 00:21:59.799 --> 00:22:04.119 like a normal hypnotist person, like hypnotized person. They'll do 408 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:07.480 this automatic writing of repeating, and then every once in 409 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:09.160 a while it will make sense and he'll be like, 410 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:12.599 send money to my mom. And then a lot of 411 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:15.359 times in this three month period was when this notebook 412 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:19.480 was supposedly mostly written. When he has disappeared and he 413 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:25.799 is writing things like hungry hungry food. There's some weird 414 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:29.640 stuff that they're possibly mentally abusing him here, like mk 415 00:22:29.799 --> 00:22:33.400 ultra abusing him. So it's really strange. I went through 416 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:36.519 and studied these, the deciphering of a lot of these, 417 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:40.559 and it was, yeah, it was kind of sad. And 418 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:44.680 he also ends up writing in his you know, home language. 419 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:47.240 He ends up doing a lot of that, but it's 420 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:51.119 really repetitive, see like of of of of like he 421 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:54.880 does it. It's really weird. I mean, really, they are 422 00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:58.799 worth taking a look at. So I just really recommend 423 00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:01.200 everybody going to check that out out because they were 424 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:04.599 super interesting and they're going to lead us even further 425 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:08.759 into this whole situation. So I'm going to actually start 426 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:11.799 with these photos here because I think they play better 427 00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:13.400 if you at some point. 428 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:15.839 Sir, if you don't mind real quick, I just didn't 429 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:18.000 want to add something that that Jin had said earlier 430 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:21.039 because I was kind of like thinking the same thing 431 00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:23.119 about his jockey stuff. 432 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:25.079 That's what I'm saying. It didn't happen. 433 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:27.119 It's just like it's just interesting how like sometimes like 434 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:29.279 it could be just I'm just always thinking of a 435 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:33.000 cult symbolism, maybe just because I'm Stone, like even the 436 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:35.559 story with him, like with the jockey and then going 437 00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:37.880 into like a coma. I mean he thought of like 438 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:41.759 the chariot writer and then you know that's just at 439 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:45.160 the end, like maybe cross the Abyss and once somewhere else. 440 00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:48.759 Well, and they said he dang there they thought he 441 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:51.880 was gonna die. So that even makes more sense, you know. 442 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:55.839 Plus the fact like who he was surrounding himself with, 443 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:00.079 even though it was strange that he would be, I 444 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:02.920 guess he's not you know, he's not white, and he 445 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:05.720 was with all these people that were like white nationalists 446 00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:09.200 like there, but it gets weird. I mean they kind 447 00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:11.519 of treated him bad, and he actually spoke up for 448 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:14.759 their rights and he tried to like say no in 449 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:17.359 a nice way. He was never they said, even though 450 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:20.640 he was super passionate about it, he never raised his voice. 451 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:22.880 He was super good friends with everyone. Like it just 452 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:25.359 seems very out of character for what's going to happen 453 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:25.839 here soon. 454 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:31.160 And idy Man in reject on this white nationalist of course, 455 00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:34.200 so I think that the proper context, he does seem 456 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:37.519 odd right, because this is Christian Palestinian man hanging out 457 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:38.319 with the white nationalists. 458 00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:40.000 It seems like an odd environment to be in. 459 00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:43.880 But I would suggest that the connecting principle between these 460 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:47.240 folks double Sir Han and then when the White Nationalists 461 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:49.400 is the processed church of the Final Judgment and they're 462 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:50.359 Nazi ideology. 463 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:55.039 Yes, yes, I think so, because he was extremely involved 464 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:57.799 with it and everybody knew it. They said he literally 465 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:01.599 the word they used, was obsessed with occultism afterwards, So 466 00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:06.039 it makes sense. And I mean they're obviously programming him. 467 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:09.240 Like the notebook, It's like it's a whole bunch of pages. 468 00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:12.519 When you look through them, you're like, whoa brain scramble? 469 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:17.559 You know, yeah, bad to the note of his double 470 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:20.880 Sir Hans connects to the process. In the book of 471 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:24.400 Ed Sanders published The Family on Charles Manson, an article 472 00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:26.519 or the chapter on the process was removed in America, 473 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:29.319 but it's remained in print in the UK today still 474 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:31.640 as he won the lawsuit over there and the American 475 00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:35.480 publisher just folded but in their Sanders sites. In nineteen 476 00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:40.279 seventy four i Ins investigation investigatory report citing that Sir 477 00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:44.200 Hans Sirhan there double Sirhan was attending ritual sex magic 478 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:47.960 parties with a English cult at Sharon Tate's house in 479 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:52.799 June or sixty eight, just immediately preceding these events here 480 00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:56.960 of RFK in double Sirhan very interesting. 481 00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:59.799 Well, we're going to get into even more links with 482 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:02.960 when we talk about our next person. But I do 483 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.079 want to quickly mention about programming with this girl. And 484 00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:09.200 this is considered the girl in the polka dot dress. 485 00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:12.319 And I will say, she comes up and she even 486 00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:16.240 had there was like eyewitnesses. This lady's last name was Serrano, 487 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:20.200 and she was on like the stairs and she comes 488 00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:22.839 running out and she says we did it. And she's 489 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:25.599 like what the hell, like what and she's like, we 490 00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:29.680 shaw Senator Kennedy and then runs away. And so she 491 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:33.920 gives this testimony until they pressured her so badly after 492 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:36.880 telling her she failed the lie detector all these things, 493 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:40.039 like they scared her basically out of her testimony, and 494 00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:42.559 she's she held onto it for a long time for years. 495 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.920 And this girl, other people saw her. It wasn't just one. 496 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:50.960 Other people actually saw her do what I'm going to 497 00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:54.720 describe right now. Because Sirhan went to the Ambassador Hotel, 498 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:58.920 he was trying to pick up girls. And I think 499 00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:01.440 you just explained why for a sexual good time. I 500 00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:03.799 think he was pretty into that. He was very into 501 00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:06.839 all of that movement at that point, and he didn't 502 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:10.799 often score well, I guess, and so he was kind 503 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:13.279 of known for drinking a little bit and he got 504 00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:15.680 kind of drunk. They said he had four Tom Collins 505 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.359 and that he went to go leave and he got 506 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:20.839 to his car and he thought, I can't drive, and 507 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:24.119 that is when he retrieved the gun from the glove compartment. 508 00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:28.039 And he goes back into the hotel and this girl 509 00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:30.079 in the polka dot dress helps him get a cup 510 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.200 of coffee, but she doesn't take him where the coffee 511 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:36.279 coffee normally is. She takes him over to like a 512 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:39.079 separate area where there was a carafe, and she sits 513 00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:41.440 him down and gets it for him. But people were 514 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:43.839 watching because they thought it was odd and and they 515 00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:48.039 literally saw her pinch him, turn him around literally when 516 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:52.359 we say handle her like physically turn him around in 517 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:54.920 like a circle. And then all of a sudden, she's 518 00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:59.880 like Senator Kennedy's coming. That was his turn off, like literal, 519 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.759 and then he starts shooting his gun. So he to 520 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:08.200 this day states he does not remember this. Okay, they 521 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:12.200 have literally gone over this again and again, and a 522 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.319 lot of times he was like told, no, you can't 523 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:20.519 be forgiven on parole or anything because you're not. Sorry, well, 524 00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.319 let's also dig into this. They did not put this 525 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:26.519 in his case. He had a blood alcohol level of 526 00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:32.480 one point six when he was arrested. He weighed one 527 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:33.480 hundred and twenty pounds. 528 00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:37.880 Sorry hiding, I'm going to jump in really quick. 529 00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:38.359 Yeah. 530 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:38.680 Good. 531 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.720 So the girl thing that totally makes sense. I mean 532 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:44.640 and jj I nick no like about that. All the 533 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:48.160 all these guys that are connected to the network we'll 534 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.160 call it, or they're called network, they're all like hypersexual 535 00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:54.839 because it may so make sense that he's really into girls. 536 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:57.160 That's even that kind of like the if you want 537 00:28:57.160 --> 00:28:59.920 to think of the Saint George figure in a couple 538 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:02.920 a stick way, that would that would have a provocation 539 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:07.359 of being hyper sexual to walk that path. So it 540 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.359 completely makes sense to me. And then even what you're 541 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:13.599 saying about the sort of the code like where he's 542 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.279 like kind of like tranced into shooting his gun, that 543 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.759 completely makes sense to me in a way because if 544 00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:24.039 they're doing like these I've never been to anything like that, 545 00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:28.240 but if I can understand like conceptually they're doing like 546 00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:32.839 rhythmic sex parties, because that's pretty much what they're trying 547 00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:35.359 to do, right, They're trying to like mass mass initiate 548 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:38.799 people into like a contra is basically how I understand it. 549 00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:43.039 So they're they're doing like these group sex rituals, I guess, 550 00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:46.000 and it's probably very rhythmic, probably to drums, because that 551 00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:49.279 in their conception, right, a very hippie conception, that's what 552 00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:52.960 it would be like, So I could see, like you 553 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:56.960 would be very suggestive, like very suggestible in a state 554 00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.400 like that. And then there's also an idea in contra 555 00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:04.480 that the the female consort, she's able to be possessed. 556 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.920 It's not possessed like channeling or anything like that, it's 557 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.119 just like small movements or words that she says it 558 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:14.240 can have considered to be higher meaning. So even to 559 00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:18.799 have like a woman be the trigger for his like mkness, 560 00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:22.519 that's interesting to me from like what you're saying, because 561 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:25.960 that makes sense for like weird sex, yoga and all. 562 00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:29.759 That stuff, right, And I mean look at the doctor 563 00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:32.119 like how he died and everything, Like he's yap in 564 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:36.200 his mouth even though he knows, like what the problems 565 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:38.480 could be. He's not afraid, and he's just like I'm 566 00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:40.759 the all powerful, like screw off, like I'm going to 567 00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:44.000 go on a radio show, actually a Mormon owned radio show, 568 00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.480 to spew all this onto a radio and he like 569 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:53.000 immediately died after. So, I mean, big surprise, right, his 570 00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:55.920 dad was also high up. I suggest people look at 571 00:30:55.960 --> 00:31:02.079 his background in politics. It's it's a lot. So you 572 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:05.839 guys didn't hear about Fane Eugene Caesar at all yet, right, No. 573 00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:09.000 No, I was the Philippines, right, you mentioned that, and 574 00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:11.880 then and then we cut out Gorman Radio station, Philippines. 575 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:16.279 And then well the guy that owned the guy that 576 00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:21.279 owned Skunkworks was born, well ran Skunkworks was born in 577 00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:24.680 the Philippines. This guy right here, he yes, and he's 578 00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:28.759 a Mormon. This is my big connect here is you know, 579 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.920 he's the head of Lockheed's Skunkworks. He was a member 580 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.000 of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, 581 00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:38.720 of course he was, and he is the head of 582 00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:42.000 these special operations. And you have to remember, okay, Fane 583 00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:44.920 Eugene Caesar is supposed to be a plumber there, Okay, 584 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.359 just a plumber and no big deal with that job, 585 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:53.200 and he takes this other job moonlighting because he's going bankrupt, 586 00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:56.640 and he does file for bankruptcy and whatnot. But I 587 00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.920 like to show where he worked previously. So if you 588 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:05.480 look down here at the bottom, earlier employers include General Motors, 589 00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:10.160 the Mormon Church, and so right here these are quotes 590 00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:14.920 from rf K Jr. So this was an interview they 591 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.519 did with him, and they do hypothesize, including rf K Jr. 592 00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:23.559 That Caesar was the second gunman a night that all 593 00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:26.359 this happened, and especially with the autopsy, which we'll get 594 00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:31.400 back to. So it's interesting to me that he's a plumber, 595 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:34.839 but he had the highest level security clearance a lot key, 596 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:37.559 especially at the weapons plant. 597 00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:42.599 Maybe he was a plumber, you know, like plumber. 598 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:47.240 Yeah, I mean exactly exactly how because you know he 599 00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:50.480 worked for the Mollen company for Bob Bennett. But yeah, 600 00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:54.960 so yes, exactly true. And and what we know is 601 00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:58.400 even though there this area was super busy and he'd 602 00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.720 only worked for ACE through this whole security gig for 603 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:05.759 three days, he comes that night and he is leading 604 00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.319 by the arm RFK into this area that they're not 605 00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:12.440 supposed to be in. Okay, at all, and it ends 606 00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:17.359 up backing him into a pantry and it's so busy 607 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:20.759 in there, like he's saying hello to everybody, Like I mean, 608 00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:23.960 you can see this hustle and bustle in this back kitchen, 609 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:25.960 and there's a lot going on. They're supposed to be 610 00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:28.960 moving on to their next talk, and so this was 611 00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.920 right like energy's high. They're already like saying, oh, we're 612 00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:34.599 going to move on to Chicago, blah blah blah, and 613 00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:39.920 and all of this literally pops off and it's not good. 614 00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:44.039 And so when it does, they've actually been quoted as 615 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:49.079 saying that he had superhuman strength at this point when 616 00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:51.839 they were trying to apprehend him. And so this is 617 00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:55.599 a picture of them apprehending. Here is thinge Eugene Caesar, 618 00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:58.559 and he is missing something that all of the security 619 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:02.559 guards have on, and that's his tie. And his tie 620 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:08.039 laid on the floor at Robert Kennedy's feet and he 621 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:08.800 was shot. 622 00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:10.639 You know what color the tie was. 623 00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:13.320 They're all dark like this. I don't know if this 624 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:17.280 is a navy or like a black, but it was 625 00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:19.639 a dark tie and they said it was laying on 626 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:22.400 the floor like there were multiple people that said that 627 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.840 this was the case. Also, if you guys know anything 628 00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:30.320 about how RFK dies, you know, he gets shot and 629 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:32.920 we're going to talk more about the autopsy with Nagucci 630 00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:36.679 kind of back behind the ear and I'll show this. 631 00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:41.320 It's going to be coming up. And he doesn't die 632 00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:45.000 on the scene. He actually had heart massage in the 633 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:48.880 sixties to be kept alive, which is well, I wonder 634 00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:52.559 if it was like Sixerior being a nurse. I was like, 635 00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:56.000 oh my gosh, cardiac massage until they could get him 636 00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:59.960 in for surgery, even though despite his extensive neurological damn. 637 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.880 And that's what eventually took him. It wasn't looking good 638 00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:08.480 for him. But it does say who is behind him 639 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:14.480 in the pantry, right, it's Sane Eugene Caesar, and right 640 00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:20.199 here it says he died from the gunshots to his back. Okay, 641 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:23.480 so this is super interesting because we're going to get 642 00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:26.840 into a whole bunch of reasons why. And you have 643 00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:30.920 to understand how Fane Eugene Caesar thought of people. He 644 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.400 was originally from Cuba, and this is his quote. And 645 00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:38.039 I listened to this whole thing. He actually was on 646 00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:41.480 a program and this was his quote. I definitely wouldn't 647 00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:44.519 have voted for Bobby Kennedy. He had the same ideas 648 00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.960 as John did. And John sold our country down the road. 649 00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:49.880 He gave the country to the commis and the minorities. 650 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.360 He said, here, you take over, you run. The white 651 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:56.119 man blacks have been cramming this integrated idea down our 652 00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:59.159 throats for eight years. You learn to hate them. One 653 00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.599 of these days. At the rate they're going, they're going 654 00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:04.239 to be a civil war in this country and the 655 00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:08.320 blacks will never win. And then so Caesar was a 656 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:11.800 bigot who hated the Kennedys for their advocacy of civil rights. 657 00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.599 I had plans to meet Dan Eugene Caesar. This is 658 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:19.119 RFK quotes himself in the Philippines until he demanded twenty 659 00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:21.239 five thousand dollars through his agent. 660 00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.239 So Dani Moldea, agent Dan Moldea. 661 00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:28.280 That guy's he's suspect, he's super suspect as well. 662 00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.679 And how about how about this war? Like what are 663 00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:34.559 we hearing about at this time? With Charlie? 664 00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:35.559 You know this. 665 00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:39.199 Absolutely, no, absolutely, this is process theology right here in 666 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:43.440 the Nazi ideology, the race wars, and from my life 667 00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.199 to point out an anti Castro. 668 00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:50.400 Cuban, yep, exactly. And then he flees and where did 669 00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:54.039 he go? He went to where until he died the Philippines, 670 00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:57.280 and who was born in the Philippines his boss. It's 671 00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:58.920 a little weird. I wonder if he flew him and 672 00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:02.559 he's awesome, you know, yet on the still technology right, 673 00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:07.920 who knows. But he did disappear, that's for sure. And so, 674 00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:11.519 like I said, there was problems with this whole situation 675 00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:14.039 with JFK and RFK. They knew he was never going 676 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.039 to let it go. And if he got into the 677 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:20.360 position where he was back as a president, they knew 678 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.440 they were done. They knew all of them. And everybody 679 00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:26.119 wants to say, oh, it's it's look, it's Israel, it's this, 680 00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:29.360 it's all of them. Mayhew is all over this thing. 681 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:33.039 And Mayhew has ties to everyone, Like I can't believe 682 00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:37.079 that they don't mention more about Mayhew. He's linked to 683 00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.599 the NASAs, he's linked to everything. He's linked to Castro, 684 00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:43.079 he's linked to the Bay of Pigs, he's linked to Hughes, 685 00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:47.400 he's linked he's linked everywhere. He is all over these papers. 686 00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:51.280 I mean there, it's crazy. And so the old ones 687 00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:52.960 at least I don't know about the new I know 688 00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.960 Lisa tagged me in one and it did mention him again, 689 00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:59.760 and I'm like, doesn't surprise me. Mayhew is always all 690 00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:03.599 over it. And how did Howard Hughes react when they 691 00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:07.480 told him about equal opportunity? He said, I don't care. 692 00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:12.400 I'm not doing it. Make it go away. So that 693 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.559 gets weird, you know. And they were trying to tell 694 00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:18.480 him like, uh, we can't, it's like a law. He 695 00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:22.719 didn't care. And whose ideology lines up with that ideology? 696 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:23.039 JJ? 697 00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:27.400 I mean, it's a it's a very Nazi like approach 698 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:28.880 to doing business, it sounds like. 699 00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:33.199 And the Mormons like this is the timeframe where they 700 00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:37.400 are literally being pushed into doing some weird stuff right 701 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:38.480 like that they didn't want to do. 702 00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:47.000 Yes, they kept that going to seventy eight, right, yes. 703 00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:51.159 Right around this mindframe. Do you know? Do you know 704 00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:53.920 what Nixon and we're going to bring him up Don 705 00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.400 Nixon said about the Mormons after they gave in that 706 00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:01.239 they were like basically mamby pamby like pieces of crap. 707 00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:04.159 And I think it very well may have been what 708 00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:06.800 helped bring his brother down, because he might have been 709 00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:10.119 talking crap way before it went on the papers. And 710 00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:12.840 you know, I think they were trying to tell them, look, 711 00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.519 we got to look right, just like polygamy, we got 712 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:18.199 we gotta look better than we're looking right now, or 713 00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:20.920 this is not going to work. And I think they 714 00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.360 saw the writing on the wall and other people just didn't, 715 00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:24.039 you know. 716 00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:26.159 Interesting, And so these. 717 00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:29.320 Are the real photos from that kid. And this is 718 00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:32.599 a really famous photo and it's just really sad. There 719 00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:34.400 was one of his wife too, and he was holding 720 00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:38.519 a crucifix that somebody had given him at that time. 721 00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:42.039 So it's just a really sad situation. But when they 722 00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.960 did apprehend him, I have to tell you, guys, they 723 00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:48.480 said he had super human strength at five foot fourth 724 00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:51.199 than Eugene Caesar. Look at all these guys, they're huge 725 00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:54.079 compared to him. Sane, Eugene Caesar is a big boy, 726 00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:58.320 like he was big, and nobody could get the gun 727 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.519 from him, nobody. But the funny thing about the gun 728 00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:06.840 is even in their own investigation, when they're trying to 729 00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:10.079 do all this stuff right, they blew it so bad. 730 00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:16.559 Then Eugene Caesar sold his gun. This gun was sold 731 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:20.440 and not taken into custody, even though multiple people saw 732 00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:23.559 him pull his gun out at the time out of 733 00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:26.599 the shooting. He said he was getting ready to fire back, 734 00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:29.760 but he had it out of the holster. He sells 735 00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:32.719 it to this guy, Yoder is his last name. He 736 00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:35.239 puts a serial number. Everything this guy's got, you guys 737 00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:38.360 can look him up. He's still got pictures with the gun, 738 00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:41.880 the whole deal. And he's like, okay, I bought it, 739 00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:44.360 and he said, oh, I sold that a long time ago. No, 740 00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.679 he sold it right after this went down. And he 741 00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:50.039 told this yolder guy, hey, be careful with this gun. 742 00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:51.599 It was involved in a police shooting. 743 00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:53.519 Yoder. 744 00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:57.679 Huh, Like that sounds like a good German name, doesn't doesn't, Oh, it. 745 00:40:57.679 --> 00:40:58.960 Totally does, Yolder? 746 00:40:59.280 --> 00:40:59.519 Yeah? 747 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:03.960 What? And so this is interesting. But not only is 748 00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:08.639 that the interesting part. We've got the bullets where okay, 749 00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:12.639 this bullet, all these bullets they counted everywhere. I think 750 00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:16.880 they said there was a total of thirteen. Interesting number anyway, 751 00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:22.280 but his gun didn't hold thirteen rounds. We're talking old days, guys, okay, 752 00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:23.679 And it. 753 00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:25.679 Was very really quickly. 754 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:26.239 You're good. 755 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.440 Is thirteen a significant number in Mormon theology? 756 00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:33.519 No, I'm just being a smart Alec. 757 00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:36.960 No, it is a very metaphysically significant number. It's a 758 00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:38.000 cole right. 759 00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:41.079 But Mormons, no, they're not going to tell us if 760 00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:41.400 it is. 761 00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:46.079 But yes, I was just curious, thank you. 762 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:50.719 Right, And so no way that this thing was was 763 00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.880 able to shoot off as many rounds and people died, 764 00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:57.840 you know, yeah, not just RFK Paul Shrade was critically injured. 765 00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:01.599 There was I think reporter that got killed. I mean, 766 00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:04.920 multiple people are shot at this point, and yet they 767 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:08.199 don't take the firearms. Are you crazy? They don't do 768 00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:10.639 any of the stuff, you know what they said that 769 00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:13.760 the Eugene Caesar said, I'd prefer not to be involved 770 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:18.800 in the investigation. What I'm sure you would, But like 771 00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:24.760 I thought, we're doing real police work. So I don't 772 00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:27.119 think they did anything that they were supposed to do 773 00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:29.480 as far as this. They didn't take his handgun, they 774 00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.920 didn't run any test to see if he had gunpowder residue. 775 00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.719 They didn't do any of it. And so the LAPED 776 00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:40.159 really screwed this up. And this diagram from Thomas Nagucci 777 00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:43.760 is what killed him. Now you can see where it 778 00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:48.760 is that it shot like these shots are coming from behind, 779 00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:53.599 Sir hansor Hen was never behind RFK. Ever, the only 780 00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:58.480 person behind RFK is the Eugene Caesar, so they can 781 00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:02.519 say he wasn't the second shooter all day long, but 782 00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:06.199 this doesn't lie. So since and I don't know if 783 00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:10.360 you guys know that, Thomas Negucci, he decided because of 784 00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:14.159 all of the problems with JFK's autopsy, he called in 785 00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:18.840 the head of every single department from the Air Force, 786 00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:21.599 Marine Corps, all of them. He had, like all these 787 00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:25.519 heads of all these government things come in the doctors 788 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:29.760 of them and watch him do this autopsy. They called 789 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:33.679 it the perfect autopsy because it was so detailed and 790 00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:36.960 so watched. He just didn't want any more crap like 791 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.039 what had happened with JFK. And so because this is 792 00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:42.599 like right after MLK, which we'll do as well, but 793 00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:46.079 I'm just saying like this is he knew it was 794 00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:48.400 a big deal. So what do they do to Thomas Negucci? 795 00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:54.000 Does anybody know? No? Do this hearing? So they completely 796 00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.079 destroy his character and try to get him thrown off 797 00:43:56.119 --> 00:43:59.360 the case because he won't play ball. And he was 798 00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:04.079 also the one did Marilyn minerals. He's considered the autopsies 799 00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:07.840 to the stars, like literally, and he would not change 800 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:11.760 his story. They humiliated him, they said weird stuff about 801 00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:13.800 him getting naked and all kinds of weird things and 802 00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:15.760 autopsies try to get him thrown off the case and 803 00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:18.840 the damage was done. He refused to change his story, 804 00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:22.400 but it really hurt him and he actually lost his 805 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:24.960 position for a short time and he sued them and 806 00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:28.360 got reinstated, but it really messed with him. It really 807 00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.400 messed with his career in life for the rest of 808 00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:32.639 his life because he wouldn't he would not belave all 809 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:35.480 with him. He was not going to do that. And 810 00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:40.199 poor sir Han, Sirhan, he's off in prison forever, you know, 811 00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:42.519 and they don't even care. They just loved him there. 812 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:45.559 And the bad thing is, like I said, he doesn't 813 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:50.360 remember anything. He remembers zero, and so this is him. 814 00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:54.039 This is his newest picture. That's why I showed him 815 00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:57.599 side by side. This is sad. They wouldn't even let 816 00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:00.679 him out at age of seventy six to live with 817 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:05.880 his brother because Newsom said so. But you know, the 818 00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:10.039 Kennedys RFK Junior is literally fighting for his release. So 819 00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:12.639 that tells you a lot. When you're talking about, like, 820 00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:16.000 you know, the whole family dynamic there. Am I still 821 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:16.519 with you guys? 822 00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:17.360 Yes? 823 00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:18.599 Cool? 824 00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:21.199 All right, Well we're going to get a little bit 825 00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:25.440 into Mayhew again because Mayhew comes up in this and 826 00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:28.519 again this book that I'm going to reference is Age 827 00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:31.880 of Secrets. A lot of my information came from there, 828 00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:36.320 and then also through CIA FOYA docs and also through 829 00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:39.639 the websites I provided because people are always like, oh, 830 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:42.360 well where did their research go from there? You go 831 00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:48.800 multiple multiple videos as well, So this is highly researched. 832 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.599 I bet I put like twelve hours just in watch time, 833 00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:55.400 not even the rest of it's it's a big rabbit hole. 834 00:45:55.880 --> 00:46:00.480 But Mayhew comes up and in this book from John Meyer. Okay, 835 00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:04.199 John Meyer was the books guy for Howard Hughes for 836 00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:06.199 years and years and years. We talked about him a 837 00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:10.840 little bit last time. He's really important and he's basically 838 00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:16.159 ran out of the country. And John Herbert Meyer, he 839 00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:20.840 was responsible for Nixon's downfall. He was the most trusted 840 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:24.280 courier of Hughes from nineteen sixty six to seventy. But 841 00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:27.280 what they did to him after that time because he 842 00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.960 wouldn't play ball on this whole situation. They forced him 843 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:33.360 to flee from the US. He ended up fleeing to Canada. 844 00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:36.559 They ended up getting him for an accusation of murder 845 00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.239 and they locked him up for like a long time, 846 00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:42.440 and he finally got out and he was chased down 847 00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:46.000 by like the CIA and Tonga and England, Japan, all 848 00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:48.920 kinds of places like this is wild even charged him 849 00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:53.599 with tax fraud, forgery, all kinds of stuff. And basically 850 00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:56.519 he was completely threatened and stalked for years upon years 851 00:46:56.559 --> 00:47:02.039 upon years. And Bill Gay hired Meyer originally, and he 852 00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:05.480 was the one that also did all the AEC work 853 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.800 for the bombs, and he was trying to get them 854 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:11.559 to stop bombing. We all know why, right, the oicult 855 00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:15.000 connection there and the aliens and different stuff, because they 856 00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:18.119 kept telling them, what do they always tell, all of them, 857 00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:22.000 the nine all of them like stop bombing. Shit, stop it. 858 00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:24.880 They don't, you know, They're like, you're screwing everything up. 859 00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:28.480 So he was trying to say, this is the damage 860 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.599 you're doing from setting these off out in the desert. 861 00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:33.280 And it was really upsetting to Hughes. This was his 862 00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:37.559 main the Atomic Energy Commission was his main contact for 863 00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:41.280 his job. And then then also currying back and forth. 864 00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:46.760 But one day after this all happened, he was called 865 00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.559 and he was told, we're meeting Don Nixon for breakfast, 866 00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:54.039 and schedule it for eight point thirty. And this is 867 00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:58.599 Mayhew and him and Don Nixon. For those that forgot, 868 00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:03.360 Don Nixon took a huge bribe from Howard Hughes. Technically, 869 00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:08.119 i'll say it correctly alone he didn't have to pay back. Okay, Ever, 870 00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:12.519 this is Don Nixon. This is the brother to Richard Nixon, 871 00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:16.679 and he's pretty much the downfall of Nixon. And he 872 00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:19.480 takes this money and starts a fast food chain. And 873 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:23.400 he's a big player with Mayhew all the time. And 874 00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:25.760 he used to come in all the time and like 875 00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:28.480 talk to them, and they would, you know, do these breakfasts. 876 00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:31.360 So that wasn't out of the ordinary. So Mayhew and 877 00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:36.920 he show up to this breakfast and interesting enough, the 878 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.159 first thing out of his mouth they embrace and hug 879 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:44.639 and say, and I quote when Mayhew and Don seen 880 00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:49.000 each other, they hug and Mayhew said, Hey, don't worry 881 00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:51.639 that Prick is dead. It looks like your brother is 882 00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:55.639 in now. And it was the morning of RFK shooting, 883 00:48:56.480 --> 00:48:58.400 like the morning after when he was in the hospital. 884 00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:03.840 Hi, sorry, I just want to uh, sort of think 885 00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:06.079 back to something that we said the last recording is 886 00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:09.400 that you were saying that the hosts, whatever the elohem 887 00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:12.480 or whichever ones they said, we're telling them, oh, please 888 00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.599 don't use the nuclear bomb. There is a theosophical idea 889 00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:18.119 and maybe even a tontric idea that if you're using 890 00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:23.239 this process of like I guess fusion, like meeting of 891 00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:27.920 the polarities like the you're going to kill the hosts 892 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.480 like that you're using the host as like the fuel. 893 00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:35.280 I know it sounds really weird, but there's a there's 894 00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:39.079 even an online cult it's called nuclear Orthodoxy. I know 895 00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:42.199 it sounds really bizarre, but ever since the Ukraine Russia 896 00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.119 stuff started, there's been like a lot of weird kind 897 00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:49.159 of like I don't know, religious things kind of rise 898 00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:52.320 to the surface. But they believe that they want Russia 899 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:56.239 to use nukes. That's the idea anyway, is so then 900 00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:58.519 they kill off the aloheim, they kill off the host 901 00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:01.239 so they can only hear the boy so broad because 902 00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:04.639 Orthodoxy is very nondual, right, they say they have a 903 00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:09.320 non dual doctrine the theology, so they will relate to 904 00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:12.440 like the higher cabalistic spheres, they would not want the 905 00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:14.800 lower ones, or they would look at the kind of 906 00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.639 Mormon way of approaching as the lower suffra. 907 00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:22.239 Right right, No, sorry, I just wanted to say that. No, 908 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:24.519 I think it's good. You know, we have to remember 909 00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:28.880 that the Bell helicopter and all of these different intricate 910 00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:32.320 things that Hughes is involved with, including the AEC and 911 00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:36.079 Meyer and all these politicians. Literally Hughes has quoted and 912 00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:38.039 don't don't come after me because I didn't write this 913 00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:41.679 one down as saying there would be no men like 914 00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:47.119 me if I couldn't buy men. I mean, let's be realistic. 915 00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:51.239 You know, we know that that man is fallible, and 916 00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:53.480 we know that these kind of things go on. But 917 00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:58.599 when I'm showing the actual proof of everything, it's very 918 00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:02.440 interesting that we can see like where this headed, I 919 00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:05.159 mean clearly, and so I'm going to stop the share. 920 00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:11.639 Let's see there we go. And so you know, with 921 00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:14.440 this book Age of Secrets, when you listen to it 922 00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:17.559 or read it, I did both, he goes into deep 923 00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:21.920 detail about like all of these things and exactly how 924 00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:28.679 this played into Hughes's empire. And really it was who 925 00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:33.440 calling the shots at the top of Hughes's empire, Gay 926 00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:38.559 and Gay is a Mormon, and all of their stuff aligns, 927 00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:43.119 you know, everything is aligning down from all of their theology, 928 00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.159 and so it doesn't take a far stretch for me 929 00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:50.079 to say, yeah, that makes total sense. You know this, 930 00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:55.119 this is all an aligned situation where all of these 931 00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:57.480 people are working for the same thing. Because we get 932 00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.960 back into Mayhew and what did Mayhew have connects with 933 00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:06.360 that weren't necessarily nefarious? I mean sort of right. He 934 00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:12.159 has connects, connections to am I six, he has connections 935 00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:15.199 to the X files. He has connections to Guy Banister 936 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:19.480 because he worked with Guy Banister for ten years at 937 00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:23.159 the Chicago office of the FBI. So he's right in 938 00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:28.079 there with all of them. He literally had delivered politicians 939 00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:32.400 Nixon onassas, the King of Saudi Arabia, all these things 940 00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:34.880 he's been involved in and the Bay of Pigs that 941 00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:38.519 is where this begins. And Mayhew just is such a 942 00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:42.039 problem for them because he's completely utilized and can never 943 00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:43.920 go away. But him and Gay don't like each other, 944 00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:48.039 and so it's this constant like battle of who's going 945 00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:49.079 to have the king. 946 00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:54.840 Right involved in the Bay pigs being an anti castro Cuban. 947 00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:56.559 Was he one of the forces trained at all? Is 948 00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:57.360 there any record of that? 949 00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:00.239 I would There is no proof, but I would bet 950 00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:04.400 good money on that because every single time I look 951 00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:06.760 back to all of these things. I haven't done the 952 00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:08.920 deep dive on MLK yet, but I bet it will 953 00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:11.360 do the same. It comes up with a few things. 954 00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:16.599 They have pigs incident, the Bush Clan and Hughes and 955 00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:21.280 the Mormons. It's like always the same situation and you're like, Okay, 956 00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:25.320 what's the deal? But in Age of Secrets, Meyer says 957 00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:30.760 that he after they took Hughes on Thanksgiving and James O. 958 00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:33.800 Golden the Mormon took him and threw him on a 959 00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:36.360 plane and hurt him in the process, that he was 960 00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:38.880 never the same, and that he died way before they 961 00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:42.119 said he did, and that they took him there Meyer 962 00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:47.119 and saw him in a frozen cryogenic state like he 963 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:50.840 wanted to be. That it wasn't real, like what they did, 964 00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:54.599 because they supposedly buried him the next day. No, none 965 00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:56.840 of it was real. And he said, I literally sat 966 00:53:56.880 --> 00:54:00.039 there staring at him in this cryogenic chamber that I 967 00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:03.719 purchased for him. He purchased it, and this guy is 968 00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:08.400 literally ran out of town, and I mean it was bad. 969 00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:12.280 And of course we have to remember Riboso's involved in 970 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:13.480 this and all kinds, you know. 971 00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:14.760 With the bo There you go. 972 00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:17.679 I was gonna say, let's not forget the may Ad 973 00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:20.199 to the mob angle of all this, with that Chicago 974 00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:22.920 can actually mentioned. I actually didn't didn't know may you 975 00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:25.239 worked for Banister. I know it was the FBI, I 976 00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:27.920 didn't know work for Banister in Chicago. But that's interesting 977 00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:31.079 considering this the Chicago mob element that's all connected to 978 00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:31.920 everything you're described. 979 00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:35.000 Yes, he was there for years. I did forget to 980 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:38.679 also mention this one other person that comes up and 981 00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:43.440 also ties right back to the Mormons. Azertat Benson's beloved 982 00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:47.119 John Birch Society was funded by H. L. Hunt, the 983 00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:50.639 white supremacist, the wealthiest man in America at that time. 984 00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:53.880 Hunt was the financial backer of the NI and Elijah 985 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:56.800 Muhammad due to their support for black separation from white 986 00:54:57.360 --> 00:54:59.920 No wonder Ezer Tath Benson knew so much about secret 987 00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:02.159 combinations there. 988 00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:04.760 You just mentioned another ancient alien cargo cult with the 989 00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:08.119 Nation of Islam. But let's also not forget the process 990 00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:11.519 here with another In fact, the show You and I 991 00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:12.280 recently did, he. 992 00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:14.119 Talking about coming out Sunday. 993 00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:16.760 Actually he was coming up sooner and he said that 994 00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:20.519 we discussed the cross servers with the process in the Mormons. 995 00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:24.000 But relative to FBI situation with the guy Banister Mayhew, 996 00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:26.800 you know, Tommy ju Baumber would go be working out 997 00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:28.920 of his office in New Orleans after he retires from 998 00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:32.480 the FBI. And Tommy Bamber being the guy who incorporated 999 00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:34.119 the process. 1000 00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:34.480 Yep. 1001 00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:37.679 And guess who else he was involved with. Johnny Roselli, 1002 00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:41.599 he's involved with Sam g and Conna. He's involved with 1003 00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:46.880 He was actually the one that infiltrated gen Conna by 1004 00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:50.960 pretending like he was a mobster. So nice, it was all. 1005 00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.639 Those were the Chicago mobsters I was referring to right there, 1006 00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:55.880 You just naw. Gen Conna and Rosselli, those are. 1007 00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:59.360 Very important characters, yes, and they were huge in this 1008 00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:04.800 whole CASI situation because he had to actually like talk 1009 00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:08.679 them into getting the hotels for Hughes. And then who 1010 00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:12.000 shows up, Oh that's right, e Perry Thomas, our Mormon 1011 00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:16.599 financier who does what He's smart as hell. He freaking 1012 00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:20.000 incorporates it and he takes it and he's like, oh 1013 00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:22.719 now it's ours. You can't skim off the top, bye, bitches, 1014 00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:26.480 Like that was what happened, and so like who do 1015 00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:29.880 you think that money goes to? Like Howard Hughes Medical 1016 00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:34.599 Center was the shell company for everything, and why did 1017 00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:37.360 that happen so that Howard Hughes could get that huge 1018 00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:40.239 tax break. Let's not forget it was this payoff from 1019 00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:44.360 Nixon that they had already. The RIRs had already said no, 1020 00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:48.039 we're not doing it. And guess what Nixon pushed it through. 1021 00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:53.119 So this is a big like spider web of money. 1022 00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:55.840 But here's the funniest part. You dumb us has already 1023 00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:57.679 have all the money, Like what do you need more 1024 00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:00.960 money for pay taxes? Like? What the hell is wrong 1025 00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:02.960 with you? People? Like this is crazy to me that 1026 00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:06.719 he had so much money that he just couldn't I mean, 1027 00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:09.239 were you ever going to spend it in your life? 1028 00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:12.199 Because he still has the money and it's still in 1029 00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:16.000 Howard Hughes Medical there's so much money, it's like allocated 1030 00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:19.760 a certain amount per year because he did forever and 1031 00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:26.079 it's still and gets no and his cousin ended up 1032 00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:28.559 with like a bunch of it. But like all of 1033 00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:32.639 this stuff goes back under the Howard Hughes Medical And 1034 00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:35.800 that's why when it came time for Gay to say, 1035 00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:38.880 is this Howard Hughes's writing or not with the will 1036 00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:41.960 the Mormon will that took thirty four years right to settle, 1037 00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:46.280 he said, oh, it's not. Why did he say it's 1038 00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:49.039 not when that showed up at the Mormon church buildings 1039 00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:53.159 because he had more power running the medical center the 1040 00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:55.480 way it was. He didn't want it to go to 1041 00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:58.280 the church because that takes away his power. And he 1042 00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:01.400 ran that up into like two years before he died. 1043 00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:03.719 I want to talk about skimming off the top. 1044 00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:08.239 I mean, I have a suggestion to whe they're doing 1045 00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:09.800 all this money, Hattie. 1046 00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:12.679 Oh please, do you tell other than building the Vatican? 1047 00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:17.719 No, No, they're all these people you're talking about, Hughes included, right, 1048 00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:22.159 the Lockheed, Fella Enrich, the mothership in Salt Lake. They're 1049 00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:24.800 all trying to get off this planet because they, you know, 1050 00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:27.880 do their cargo Coldbuler. 1051 00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:31.079 Systems one hundred percent. They believe that like they won't. 1052 00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:33.360 And the fun you know what, JJ, The funny part 1053 00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:35.960 is the reason why I know you're right, is because 1054 00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:39.440 they deny it. We don't get what are you talking about, Colob. 1055 00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:43.360 There's no cool Ob. We don't have planets anymore, there's 1056 00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:44.880 no virgins. What do you mean? 1057 00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:47.920 Same tale scientology tells it's folks. 1058 00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:50.039 When we start talking about xeno and to reach a 1059 00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:52.000 certain level, the Mormons do the same business. 1060 00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:55.239 In my opinion, exactly, And I think it's even worse 1061 00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:58.760 than the Mormons know because the Mormons are now the 1062 00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:03.440 goyam and they are actually using feminine energy and magic practices, 1063 00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:05.920 which I will prove when we come back on and 1064 00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:10.800 talk about this whole Nathan, doctor Nathan from Yale and Harvard, 1065 00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:16.280 and these family connections of well, Massachusetts. How about we 1066 00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:20.039 go back to the fact that you know, Joseph Smith's 1067 00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:24.519 great great grandpa was huge up in Massachusetts. He was 1068 00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:27.519 a statesman. He was involved in the Boston Tea Party. 1069 00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:29.840 What the hell are you talking about? He's a poor farmer. 1070 00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:33.360 His brother and his uncle were a mastery and genuall 1071 00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:37.400 love this. He had a mastery of almost like Jesuit knowledge, 1072 00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:41.440 and they were teaching them these mystery things. He was 1073 00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:43.559 at the Indian School, and I never could figure out 1074 00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:46.000 why why did Hiram go to the Indian school? I 1075 00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:48.800 couldn't find it. Finally, this weekend, I fell down the 1076 00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:51.519 rabbit hole so hard I hit my little head and 1077 00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:56.320 I was like, look, this is because this other other cousin, 1078 00:59:56.800 --> 01:00:02.039 Johnny Smith, worked also at Dartmouth, who had high room. 1079 01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:06.159 Come there for a professional education to be a priest 1080 01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:11.079 to the Indians. And this was set up all by 1081 01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:16.480 like actual people that are high up. The actually professor 1082 01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:19.119 Johnny started the Church of Christ and the pre existence 1083 01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:21.559 and all the ship that we're always talk about at church. 1084 01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:24.400 It wasn't even Joseph Smith. The Church of Christ was 1085 01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:28.079 started by his uncle or cousin whatever, and it's Professor 1086 01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:31.880 Johnny and then Nathan Smith. They say, oh, he's not related. 1087 01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:36.320 I found it all on your own stupid website FamilySearch 1088 01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:42.119 dot org. He is two, he is a moment. 1089 01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:45.320 Yeah, this is great. Found it on your own site. 1090 01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:51.480 Yeah, exactly like you. Yeah, they both are. Well not 1091 01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:55.239 if you still have a member ID but whatever. 1092 01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:56.480 I used to use it to look up. 1093 01:00:56.880 --> 01:00:59.440 Yeah, I still got mine too. It comes in Handy's 1094 01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:00.519 doing Jenny'll work. 1095 01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:03.599 They haven't kicked me out yet because I'm like I'm 1096 01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:07.920 like Morgan Taylor. Yeah, I don't know if they're ever 1097 01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:11.119 going to talk to me, but I don't care if 1098 01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:13.519 they do. If they do, they do. But this whole 1099 01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:16.840 Dartmouth thing, why it never also made sense to me? 1100 01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:20.679 Where did he go after the fact he goes and 1101 01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:25.320 starts a medical school at Yale? He started this at 1102 01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:27.679 Dartmouth and then moves on to Yale, And what the 1103 01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:30.480 hell is set up here in Utah? Skull and bones? 1104 01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:35.760 I mean, it doesn't take a scientist, really, you know. 1105 01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:39.480 And guess what disappeared when Hiram disappeared. You know why 1106 01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:41.880 the whole college he didn't get his full education. Guess 1107 01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:46.199 why because there was a grave robbing court and they 1108 01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:49.599 were like you mother, efforts, stop taking our dead relatives. 1109 01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.320 Get the hell out. They drove them out, closed the 1110 01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:56.079 school and he was like within months of finishing his 1111 01:01:56.239 --> 01:01:59.320 whole education that he stayed at Dartmouth. There and they 1112 01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:01.679 ran them all out of town, which is why they 1113 01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:05.199 went to Palmyra. Nobody wants to talk about this. And 1114 01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:07.599 guess what they took with them because they couldn't find 1115 01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:12.079 it after they left the scott a chronic con Oh 1116 01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:18.440 they did, and the uncle owned a rare bookshop, Like, 1117 01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:22.360 come on, it's stupid. They're not poor Dom farmers. 1118 01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:25.960 Okay, so this is something really interesting. I'm sorry to interrupt, 1119 01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:30.159 but no, I love it. I So okay, first question 1120 01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:32.880 is was it the Church of Christ or the Church 1121 01:02:32.920 --> 01:02:33.280 of Light. 1122 01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:36.920 Church of Christ was the first? 1123 01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:39.440 Okay, so that I actually like this. I get if 1124 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:42.880 we're saying like a theory of origin story for Mormonism 1125 01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:51.679 as like this Martinist magical solemonic yeah, Christian surgical, hermeticist 1126 01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:55.519 kind of American syncretic magic. They're obviously drawing from Native Americans, 1127 01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:59.039 just as Thomas Jefferson famously did. Look at the Mohawks. 1128 01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:01.000 We also know that the uh JJ and I have 1129 01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:03.320 discussed this, like the Mohawks seekert societies. 1130 01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:06.639 There is I'm just gonna lay this out for you 1131 01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:09.760 because you mentioned this, so you're not wrong. Do you 1132 01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:13.679 want to know how Dartmouth College was started by Reverend 1133 01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:19.199 Sanson a come and he was a Christianized heaven Native 1134 01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:24.480 American and some people call him Samuel and he was 1135 01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:28.480 where where was he from? Oh? Oh Naida? Okay, So 1136 01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:35.320 Dartmouth was started by this guy and Robert Burns Okay, 1137 01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:40.960 and these people and bez Bizill I can't say this name. 1138 01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:47.320 Be Easy a L e A L. Woodward. Yes, basically 1139 01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:50.679 it's not the bub, but it's like half of it. Diazel, 1140 01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:54.480 I don't know. And the grandpa's name is a Zazel. 1141 01:03:55.079 --> 01:03:55.960 Wait it's a Ziel. 1142 01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:00.000 Yeah. 1143 01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:03.119 And they're all from Topsfield, Massachusetts. And there's no people 1144 01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:05.519 here because we're callingizing America and they don't know each 1145 01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:06.639 other and they're not related. 1146 01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:10.159 Sounds like some occult names though, right right. 1147 01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:12.239 You want to see the girls. You gotta see the girls. 1148 01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:18.519 Zena my great great ancestor. All these weird names and 1149 01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:21.679 I'm like, wait a minute, it doesn't make any sense. 1150 01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:27.519 All Lucy Maxmiths are very very Abrahamic type names like Moses, 1151 01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:32.280 and you know, all these Solomon and all these things. 1152 01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:36.320 I'm like, okay, she knew some stuff too, she knew. 1153 01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:38.920 And I mean to speak of these Yel connections, Heidie, 1154 01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:41.440 it brings to mind one of the one interesting figure 1155 01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:44.719 in the Mormon you know, uh and history, and that's 1156 01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:49.719 uh Zena Diantha Xena or Zena Diantha Huntington. 1157 01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:51.719 That's my relative. 1158 01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:54.440 Yes, your ancestors. 1159 01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:56.800 Okay, where are you from the bringing young marriage or 1160 01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:58.559 the j Justph Smith unofficial children. 1161 01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:05.440 I not not official with Brigham, I'm pretty sure, but 1162 01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:11.920 I had out yesterday trying to find it. Yeah, my grandma, No, 1163 01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:14.280 I think it's on young side because she married young 1164 01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:19.960 because Zena, it's Taylor Young and so she marries into that, 1165 01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:21.559 and so she's. 1166 01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:24.760 The Huntington, right. So the Huntington's were very interesting family. 1167 01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:29.719 She marries both Joseph and Brigham, you know, you know, 1168 01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:32.599 and then it starts the Women's Relief Society, right, She's 1169 01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:37.400 credited with that, I believe, and you know, the the 1170 01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:40.400 hunting A number of the Huntings would do a number 1171 01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:43.880 of things there aside from being the folks that started 1172 01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:47.719 the Skull and Bones you're mentioning. That's Samuel Huntington, Russell 1173 01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:52.039 Rights and the Hales. 1174 01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:55.199 The Hales come into this, and so I just think 1175 01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:59.440 it's interesting. Oh, I didn't look up the first name. 1176 01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:01.719 All all tell you the next time we see each other. 1177 01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:04.039 But I didn't know we were getting a lieutenant. That 1178 01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:07.280 he was Lieutenant's murdered in the Revolution. He's coveted as 1179 01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:09.119 this spy figure in American history. 1180 01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:13.360 Well, Samuel, his great great grandpa was the one that 1181 01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:16.000 organized the Boston Tea Party. And what happened at the 1182 01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:18.920 Boston Tea Party. I'm talking about Joseph his great great grandpa. 1183 01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:23.280 And so what happened was they dressed up as what 1184 01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:27.199 Native Americans. Oh, does that sound like the Mormon massacre? 1185 01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:30.800 Like much like come on right, and it's the same 1186 01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:33.639 damn thing. And they said he literally was the statesman 1187 01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:38.480 Samuel Smith, Captain Samuel Smith, and he was over this 1188 01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:40.920 whole thing, and he arranged it, and he didn't go 1189 01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:43.039 to it because he was like, oh, you peasants, go 1190 01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:45.840 do it, like I'm not going. But like he was 1191 01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:48.639 having the town meeting about the Boston Tea Party, literally 1192 01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:49.559 Joseph's family. 1193 01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:52.280 So you just you just said what I was the 1194 01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:54.800 point I was hoping to bring in here with these families, 1195 01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:58.559 is you said captain right? So I mean he was 1196 01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:02.239 a member of the the secret society that started America, 1197 01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:04.400 the Society of the Cincinnati Right. 1198 01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:09.559 So Captain Ashale too, not Azel. Aziel's dad was Aushale, 1199 01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:11.679 I believe it was him, also a captain. 1200 01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:17.079 So these are the folks, this organization of the officers 1201 01:07:17.119 --> 01:07:20.760 of Washington's army in the Revolution. And again a very 1202 01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:23.199 interesting one there, being involved in the tea party situations 1203 01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:26.840 as well. Right, So these men all were fascinated, had 1204 01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:29.960 a deep fascination with the mounds, and so do the Mormons. 1205 01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:33.079 So I don't know what's your take on the Mormons 1206 01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:34.760 and their Mountain interests. 1207 01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:37.800 Oh, for sure, it's all the same. It's just, you know, 1208 01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:40.960 the Mormons just slapped a different label on the same 1209 01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:43.920 thing we've always talked about because it's more acceptable to 1210 01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:48.159 be a Christian denomination of whatever then. And if they 1211 01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:51.000 hadn't done the pligamy, honestly, it probably would have freaking 1212 01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:53.679 took off. Like, honestly, if he'd have left that alone 1213 01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:55.039 and could have kept it in his pants and not 1214 01:07:55.119 --> 01:07:58.079 had scrapes and barns, we would probably there wuld probably 1215 01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:01.079 be Mormons everywhere, not that there's not a lot of them, okay, 1216 01:08:01.719 --> 01:08:03.280 but I mean. 1217 01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:08.840 I don't think that assassination of Joseph Smith was purely Masonic. 1218 01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:10.800 This is what I'm getting at with the Society of 1219 01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:15.280 the Cincinnati. So I argue that the the hereditary members, 1220 01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:18.159 the members today that gain it, you know, membership through 1221 01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:19.319 the bloodline. 1222 01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:21.760 Of their father, through their father's father back to the Revolution, 1223 01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:23.000 These men. 1224 01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:23.399 Once. 1225 01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:24.359 Once one of these. 1226 01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:28.119 Hereditary members gets elected president, that seems to be controversial 1227 01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:32.319 amongst this crowd. For example, Henry Harrison dies thirty one 1228 01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:37.199 days into office, right, Abraham Lincoln's marked while he's in office. 1229 01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:39.840 His grandfather was a captain in the Virginia Militia in 1230 01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:42.800 the Wars of seventeen seventy six. And Joseph Smith being 1231 01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:45.760 an hereditary member who by his own accord, he claimed 1232 01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:49.159 he was going to be president and dispatch diplomats around the. 1233 01:08:49.159 --> 01:08:54.439 World preceding his and ran for president, right right. 1234 01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:56.720 So I think that's that was a big impetus behind 1235 01:08:56.760 --> 01:09:00.760 that is whatever goes on within these society crowd. They 1236 01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.800 don't like hereditary members also being the president the United States, 1237 01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:06.399 because by virtue of being President of United States, you're 1238 01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:08.760 a member of that society in some way. 1239 01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:10.960 I think you have the divine right to rule on 1240 01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:14.119 top of it, which he spoke about because it leads 1241 01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:17.880 into the Kingston clan who says what they're Mayrivingian And 1242 01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:21.000 when I I don't know, JJ, if you're like Mormon pioneer, 1243 01:09:21.399 --> 01:09:23.800 are you Mormon pioneer? Did you have your DNA done? 1244 01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:27.600 I'm not a Mormon pioneer. We're a convert. We're a 1245 01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:29.359 convert the West Virginia Converts. 1246 01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:32.840 I'm a Mormon pioneer company. And let me tell you something. 1247 01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:35.800 When I pull up my DNA thing, it looks like 1248 01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:37.920 I should have a crown on my head. It's nuts. 1249 01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:41.279 Like I'm related to all the presidents, almost all all 1250 01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:44.680 these you know. I'm in the like bourbon fit house, 1251 01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:47.560 a bourbon house of New Orleans. I'm related to all 1252 01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:50.560 these fancy people. And you are like, Okay, what did 1253 01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:53.800 they do? Did they take this is what I postulate 1254 01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:56.800 to start the new world? Did they take children that 1255 01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:00.600 were super important and hide them in plain sight for 1256 01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:03.640 a later culling of the blood and they're looking for 1257 01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:04.079 it now? 1258 01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:06.760 Okay, Heidi, let me just interruct you. 1259 01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:08.720 There is a I mean sort of answer. 1260 01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:15.279 Yes, there is a concept like most French Canadians can 1261 01:10:15.319 --> 01:10:18.840 trace their ancestry. I'm not talking about Husian though, so 1262 01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:21.159 we're talking about French Catholics. About most French Canadians can 1263 01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:26.000 trace her ancestry back to eleven feet of wak children 1264 01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:31.319 daughters of the crown. So it's even interesting obviously metaphysical number. 1265 01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:36.399 So just so most people even including me, can trace 1266 01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:41.079 at least maternal mRNA line back to these girls. So 1267 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.000 it is very interesting if you think about it. Like 1268 01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:47.720 what you're saying, something that Lisa has talked about too, 1269 01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:50.520 is like there's this idea that the daughter is like 1270 01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:53.159 the progenitor because she carries with her all the eggs 1271 01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:55.479 that are going to be with her for her whole life. 1272 01:10:56.319 --> 01:10:58.840 Mm hmm. And why did they want Mormons to have 1273 01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:02.159 so many kids and pro create the line and the 1274 01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:05.039 Kingstons just so you know, jin they keep it in 1275 01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:07.840 the family and they are like Egyptians and marry their 1276 01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:10.760 sisters and shit. And they do this because they say 1277 01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:12.359 they're the bloodline of Jesus Christ. 1278 01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:15.960 That's a good point, Annie, because all these families think 1279 01:11:16.039 --> 01:11:18.880 that idea. So you're talking about your lineage that are 1280 01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:20.960 cousins with all these presidents, Well, that's because all these 1281 01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:23.600 presidents and your lineage go back to the to the 1282 01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:26.560 Knight's templar and so on and so forth, back through 1283 01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:29.279 the Normans, and they claim to be marior of Ngians 1284 01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:31.079 from the from the birth of you know, from the 1285 01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:34.680 line of Jesus. They're Jesus and Mary, not the Catholics. 1286 01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:35.760 Jesus and Mary, right. 1287 01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:39.199 Not the Christians. Why think about it, JJ, This is 1288 01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:41.680 why the whole story. And I got called out on 1289 01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:45.279 a certain podcast, and I'm just going to say, you 1290 01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:47.840 can call me out all day, but I do my research. 1291 01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:51.399 When I said Jesus banged Mary, or I mean God 1292 01:11:51.560 --> 01:11:54.279 banged Mary to make Jesus, that is what they told 1293 01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:56.680 us when we were little. And I showed it in 1294 01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:59.119 receipts and made a dumb little song because I'm telling 1295 01:11:59.199 --> 01:12:02.079 you this. That is what they've always said. And here's 1296 01:12:02.119 --> 01:12:04.520 the problem with your own theology. If you don't believe 1297 01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:07.000 it's true, you can't be a god one day. 1298 01:12:07.039 --> 01:12:12.800 If you don't think so, you gotta believe it first, right, Yeah, Well. 1299 01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:15.279 You got to believe that you were, that God was 1300 01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:17.760 like a man that became a god, and that you 1301 01:12:17.880 --> 01:12:20.359 can become a God just like God did. That is 1302 01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:23.720 the theology. That he was not placed there by Holy Spirit. 1303 01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:26.760 In the Mormon theology, it was and I'll quote it 1304 01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:30.239 so it sounds nicer because I said it, Krass, I'll 1305 01:12:30.479 --> 01:12:34.399 say it. They said he was born of earthly wants, 1306 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:40.039 and what are they saying? Not needs earthly desires like 1307 01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:43.720 any other man? Brigod Young. 1308 01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:46.760 Okay, sorry, I want you I just want to correct 1309 01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:49.960 the record. So it's eight hundred Daughters of the Crown, 1310 01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:53.000 but most French Channings can trace their lineage back to 1311 01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:56.600 seventeen girls in particular, so it was a magic number, 1312 01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:59.119 just not the one I thought it was. So I 1313 01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:03.159 just want to say, but it's interesting, Heidi, what you're 1314 01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:06.359 saying right now because Nick inviting me on to interview 1315 01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:09.640 a really interesting guy. I won't say until that episode drops, 1316 01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:14.319 but he associated with Temple sent and so he actually 1317 01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:19.239 is talking about very similar things that they believe like 1318 01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:21.039 almost identical, to be honest. 1319 01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:26.399 Well, and what Masonic lodge did Joseph Smith join the 1320 01:13:26.760 --> 01:13:31.359 French Canadian one? And what Native Americans did they say 1321 01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:34.600 to in breed with Mick mac i am some. 1322 01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:41.279 So their flag is a templar flag. It even has 1323 01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:45.119 the sun and the moon and the star, and it's 1324 01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:48.399 a red cross obviously, and that even the chief of 1325 01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:51.520 the mickmocks he went into a magical battle. This is 1326 01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:55.880 what they said, for seven days against the Jesuit. I 1327 01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:58.760 guess they were like priests or whatever they were, but 1328 01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:00.880 that's what it was like, A three of them it's 1329 01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:03.880 a magic story obviously, and so based he summons a 1330 01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:07.720 shark and does like storms and but then the Jesuits win. 1331 01:14:08.079 --> 01:14:10.479 So what happens is the Judge of the priests or 1332 01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:13.000 the excuse me, the chief, he actually converts. He's like 1333 01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:16.359 the magic of the Jesuits was way more powerful, and 1334 01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:19.079 so him and all of his wives are actually buried 1335 01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:21.800 out of star for it. It's kind of interesting, it 1336 01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:22.359 is true. 1337 01:14:22.439 --> 01:14:22.920 I love it. 1338 01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:26.800 I love that I can sell this nicknack mystery. The 1339 01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:30.800 uh it's why they got the templar connections. So anyone 1340 01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:33.399 can look up any folks of the interwebs, maybe all 1341 01:14:33.439 --> 01:14:35.880 folks I'm not familiar with the storyline can look up 1342 01:14:35.960 --> 01:14:40.039 Lowncew Meadows. It's in modern day Nova Scotia, New Scotland, 1343 01:14:40.119 --> 01:14:42.000 you know, kind of like the Templars of Old Scotland. 1344 01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:45.720 Lownsal Meadows was settled in I believe ten sixty six 1345 01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:47.840 that they agree on ten sixty six. 1346 01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:48.479 An interesting time. 1347 01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:52.800 That's when the Normans invaded the UK sicily and clearly America, 1348 01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:56.199 you know what is now Nova Scotia, and the Normans 1349 01:14:56.399 --> 01:14:59.159 again were the ancestors to the Knight's Templar. 1350 01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:02.720 Well it makes more sense when you put in Martinism 1351 01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:04.760 with it. If it's Night's Templar, and then they are 1352 01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:08.319 just you know, carrying on the actual magical practices of 1353 01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:13.399 the Martinism part. You know, they also have the the 1354 01:15:13.720 --> 01:15:17.640 elect nine, you know, with Elli's Cohen and all this 1355 01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:18.640 stuff of the election. 1356 01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:21.640 It does go back that far, Heidi, it really doesn't 1357 01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:27.079 speaking to these bloo George Washington was was the descendant 1358 01:15:27.159 --> 01:15:31.319 from ten of the Templar knights that signed Magna Carta, 1359 01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:35.399 and and so these families still, you know, it's not 1360 01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:39.159 just the Kingston's, These families continue to even outside the 1361 01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:42.920 Mormon Church, the elements of the blue Bloods of New 1362 01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:46.399 England where the Mormons you know, came from. As you're describing, 1363 01:15:47.640 --> 01:15:50.840 these families still intertwined today. I mean, looking at my 1364 01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:54.439 DNA test and family trees, I'm I'm shocked I don't 1365 01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:57.199 have a seventy IQ web feet and the recessed chin line, 1366 01:15:57.479 --> 01:15:59.640 because that's literally how mbred my tree is. 1367 01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:02.199 It's more of a family poll than a tree. 1368 01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:06.800 Well then we get into okay, we come to Utah 1369 01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:13.119 and it's what called desiret. What does desiret mean? Okay, 1370 01:16:13.680 --> 01:16:18.520 it means the bees. Right, it's bees. And then what 1371 01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:21.760 do the bees have to do with anything? Right, We've 1372 01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:24.239 got it. A bee happway to be have stay? Oh, 1373 01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:27.479 I know because it goes back to Mavigi. 1374 01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:30.000 Isn't there one on like every boat or something? I 1375 01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:31.319 could be wrong. I came over here. 1376 01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:35.119 Well here's the thing too. Is Napoleon Bonaparte when he 1377 01:16:35.279 --> 01:16:40.680 took back his throne and he was Marivingian bloodline, he 1378 01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:42.680 and his wife on the day that they were And 1379 01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:45.399 if you put it on there, if you do coronation 1380 01:16:46.199 --> 01:16:53.560 outfit or Napoleon's bee cloak, they sew bees onto their 1381 01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:57.800 cloaks to symbolize that they are Marivingian. And what does 1382 01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:00.600 he say that he is? He's a mere Ofvngian from 1383 01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:05.000 Jesus Christ. That's what Joseph says. And so obviously, like 1384 01:17:05.119 --> 01:17:08.319 I said, not just presidents, but royalty comes up all 1385 01:17:08.479 --> 01:17:11.479 over my line where I'm a pioneer heritage, not that 1386 01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:14.920 it matters for here. I'm just talking about bloodlines. I'm 1387 01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:18.239 talking about what were they doing and how are they 1388 01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:22.319 tricking people like one of my great great grandpa's talbot, 1389 01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:26.000 who was you know, actually in the line they tried 1390 01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:28.680 to get him to come back, and he was like no, 1391 01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:31.920 and he settled in Kaysville to be a poor farmer. 1392 01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:37.600 Why would you do that if not for something really important, 1393 01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:40.840 not in this life, right right? 1394 01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:43.880 If I may give you a fun fact about to 1395 01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:46.760 pulling Bonaparte there, Heidi, he's also a member of that 1396 01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:48.640 same group, the Society the Cincinnati. 1397 01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:50.279 The French have their own chapter. 1398 01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:53.199 He was a major during the French Revolution, the French 1399 01:17:53.239 --> 01:17:57.039 Revolution in the American Revolution were sold to separate revolutions, 1400 01:17:57.439 --> 01:17:59.840 is same same, and so he's on the French chapter. 1401 01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:04.439 Well, and obviously these were magical people because like they're 1402 01:18:04.479 --> 01:18:08.560 all hailing from Massachusetts, like his great great grandpa was 1403 01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:12.199 involved Joseph Smith in the inquisition on the accusatory side, 1404 01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:14.920 as we've mentioned. But all of this stuff goes back 1405 01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.479 to royals, like we can see it, and it didn't 1406 01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:20.600 just come out of the air. These people didn't really 1407 01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:22.479 get down on their knees and pray this ship up. 1408 01:18:22.560 --> 01:18:27.279 Let's get real, that's not happening. This is a this 1409 01:18:27.479 --> 01:18:32.840 is mystery schools. Well, you know that. 1410 01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:35.439 Isn't it? 1411 01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:38.560 Both It's like they both like totally. 1412 01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:41.920 He says that that angel speaks to them, right, That's 1413 01:18:41.960 --> 01:18:45.279 what everybody says. That's like every magician's favorite story is 1414 01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:48.239 it speaks to me. But and it can be both 1415 01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:51.000 ancient and like new and that's fine, And I'm not 1416 01:18:51.079 --> 01:18:53.319 making a judgment. I'm just saying it's a little bit 1417 01:18:53.319 --> 01:18:54.760 of both. And it always kind of is. 1418 01:18:56.000 --> 01:19:00.239 Yeah, and why does every profit until like way later 1419 01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:06.399 have a staff like a cane but like stuff and 1420 01:19:06.680 --> 01:19:09.760 and yeah, I mean it's right there, but people just 1421 01:19:09.920 --> 01:19:13.760 they took it underground because people were getting killed. And 1422 01:19:13.920 --> 01:19:15.600 I think they just were like, we got to keep 1423 01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:17.319 this on the d L for the top of the top. 1424 01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:21.279 One thing I just want to add real quick. You know, 1425 01:19:21.359 --> 01:19:24.159 you mentioned the Micmacs and then you mentioned freemasony and stuff. 1426 01:19:25.279 --> 01:19:27.319 You know, sometimes I do wonder or I do think 1427 01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:30.399 that sometimes the cult this me actually be influenced by 1428 01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:33.720 stuff that I needive Americans were into and this is like, 1429 01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:36.680 you know, one of the symbols for Mick Mac and uh. 1430 01:19:37.720 --> 01:19:39.720 I do want to like show them like I because 1431 01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:41.680 I had this book. Well I had a copy of 1432 01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:42.239 the PDF. 1433 01:19:44.680 --> 01:19:45.239 Very nice. 1434 01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:46.800 I mean it's basically the same shit. 1435 01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:51.880 Well, they called Joseph Smith the Hermetic prophet for a reason. 1436 01:19:52.520 --> 01:19:55.439 I mean, he was able to see beyond like the 1437 01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:59.760 droppings of his system. That's very American too, Like we 1438 01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.399 spoke about this a little bit last time, but there's 1439 01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:05.920 something very like syncretic about America, Like who comes here 1440 01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:10.079 and like even like Martinism. Martinism, they'll say they're Protestant, 1441 01:20:10.159 --> 01:20:12.600 but they're taking like a little bit from Promessism, a 1442 01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:16.279 little from Rosicrucianism. Like everybody's like kind of putting their 1443 01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:19.520 own system together. It's never like as as they like 1444 01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:20.479 to pretend. 1445 01:20:22.279 --> 01:20:25.680 Well, because they probably lose things along the way. I'll 1446 01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:28.119 pull up that. I think the Martinist star is really 1447 01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:31.039 similar to that too. Just off at the top of 1448 01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:31.479 my mind. 1449 01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:36.239 I just find it interesting with regarding these ceremonial, magical 1450 01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:40.000 elements and whatnot of the Mormon theologies and philosophies. Here, 1451 01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:42.800 why you know, they find the Golden place in the 1452 01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:45.880 mound they move, they set up shopping cartland, and a 1453 01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:49.199 mound they go to. They go to Independence, Missouri on 1454 01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:49.640 a mound. 1455 01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:51.439 They set up in Nowve on a mound. 1456 01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:54.199 Now, arguably I have no evidence that Salt Lake City 1457 01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:57.239 had any mounds, but I suspect they did. Who's gonna 1458 01:20:57.239 --> 01:20:58.880 tell us because they're the first ones there. They're not 1459 01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:00.119 gonna be like, oh shit, we found Mount. 1460 01:21:03.319 --> 01:21:06.319 JJ. Do you remember the cartoon when we were little kids. 1461 01:21:06.680 --> 01:21:08.439 I don't know whenever you saw it, but when I 1462 01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:10.680 was a little kid. If you're a convert, it might 1463 01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:12.439 have been later for you. But there was this cartoon 1464 01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:15.680 where they showed the blocks for the temple being moved 1465 01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:17.880 by magic, where they like pointed to them and it 1466 01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:21.359 was like boing, like this weird seventies going and it 1467 01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:23.640 would just show the blocks being moved and I'm like, 1468 01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:26.920 totally makes sense, Like, don't have to sell me on it. Yeah, 1469 01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:30.199 those blocks were far away from that quarry and they 1470 01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:31.279 were very heavy. 1471 01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:35.239 Well, Salt Lake City, Sorry, Heidi, just thought of us 1472 01:21:35.279 --> 01:21:37.760 for JJ. But and also next point was really good. 1473 01:21:37.760 --> 01:21:40.680 I didn't realize how deep it was until I shut up. 1474 01:21:41.399 --> 01:21:45.079 But well, isn't it interesting that Salt Lake City could 1475 01:21:45.079 --> 01:21:47.880 be sort of thought of as a polarity to Mexico 1476 01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:52.159 City because the youth Indians who well, the native people 1477 01:21:52.239 --> 01:21:54.720 of the youths, they they are the ones who became 1478 01:21:54.760 --> 01:21:55.479 the Aztecs. 1479 01:21:56.640 --> 01:21:59.199 Oh you know about the Romney family, in Mexico. That 1480 01:21:59.279 --> 01:22:01.319 gets great interesting. 1481 01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:06.439 So if you believe like there's like like JJ's loves 1482 01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:08.359 the mound. So it's like that makes sense because it's 1483 01:22:08.439 --> 01:22:12.399 like America is like if you build it, the host 1484 01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:14.279 will come. I guess if you want to make a 1485 01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:16.600 cargo star Star God Joe. 1486 01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:20.000 JJ, do you really think that the temple was fully 1487 01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:23.199 built here? I think it was already premature existing. I 1488 01:22:23.479 --> 01:22:25.119 think it was partially here already. 1489 01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:28.000 I have a lot of questions. I have a lot 1490 01:22:28.039 --> 01:22:29.960 of questions in regard to a lot of Mormon history. 1491 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:32.760 And if I can give you one example, I've spent 1492 01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:35.560 most of my summers of my life, especially as an adult, 1493 01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:36.800 even in my Air Force career. 1494 01:22:37.079 --> 01:22:38.840 Take two weeks in my thirty days in. 1495 01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:42.239 Vermont, and over the years, I started doing genealogy research 1496 01:22:42.319 --> 01:22:43.079 with my grandfather. 1497 01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:45.960 And he's not a Mormon. I'm a Mormon. They got 1498 01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:46.520 me real young. 1499 01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:49.039 They sprinkled some some stuff on me, giving one of 1500 01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:51.239 these as an infant in Connecticut when I was a baby. 1501 01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:55.199 So my mother was a convert from West Virginia, but 1502 01:22:55.319 --> 01:22:57.680 she was a convert to the DC ward right with 1503 01:22:57.840 --> 01:22:59.079 long of their friend Bob Bennett. 1504 01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:05.920 That's sonny boy is a bad boy. He looks nice, but. 1505 01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:09.800 His nephew was my was my bishop as a teenager 1506 01:23:09.880 --> 01:23:12.840 in Cincinnati. Strangely enough, a lot a lot of founding 1507 01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:15.520 Mormon families in that war. Not sure what that's about. 1508 01:23:15.640 --> 01:23:19.920 But this guy in this town in Huntington, Vermont. In fact, 1509 01:23:20.119 --> 01:23:22.319 it's a town named after the Huntington family because the 1510 01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:24.680 guy who founded it a member of the Society of 1511 01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:27.600 the Cincinnati out of the Connecticut Chapter. He his mother 1512 01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:29.479 was a Huntington, so he named the town after his mother. 1513 01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:33.560 But he died in eighteen twenty six, and for some reason, 1514 01:23:34.039 --> 01:23:36.279 his last one in testament says he does not want 1515 01:23:36.319 --> 01:23:38.960 to be baptized for the dead by those Mormons. 1516 01:23:39.840 --> 01:23:43.319 So I'm not sure how that in my will. I'm 1517 01:23:43.319 --> 01:23:44.680 going to put that in my will too. 1518 01:23:44.840 --> 01:23:48.199 But in eighteen twenty six, how does that happen? In 1519 01:23:48.239 --> 01:23:50.479 eighteen twenty six, there is no baptism for the dead, 1520 01:23:50.800 --> 01:23:54.399 There is no Oh wow, this is a guy again. 1521 01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:58.880 This is your ancestors. And Diana the Huntingon Huntington would 1522 01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:02.239 have been a first cousin and second cousin to this guy. 1523 01:24:03.199 --> 01:24:05.640 I will find out which I pulled that dumb chart 1524 01:24:05.680 --> 01:24:06.439 out yesterday's. 1525 01:24:06.800 --> 01:24:09.720 Yeah, we'll have to converse with those. This guy's a 1526 01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:13.000 Huntington via his mother, Martha Huntington. Martha Huntington is also 1527 01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:16.279 the grandmother to useless Aess Grant Well. 1528 01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:19.159 And then the Welsh, all the Welsh history that comes 1529 01:24:19.199 --> 01:24:21.399 over here with them. You know, the very first book 1530 01:24:21.399 --> 01:24:24.439 of Mormon ever copied over into another language is Welsh. 1531 01:24:24.640 --> 01:24:27.279 Why because there were so many of them that came 1532 01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:31.399 to that area that were easily converted. I mean because 1533 01:24:31.479 --> 01:24:33.840 it was already They kind of had some magic in 1534 01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:37.279 their pocket, right, like they new some stuff. So I 1535 01:24:37.399 --> 01:24:40.399 think really wild, No, you're good. 1536 01:24:41.319 --> 01:24:44.319 When you were talking about like the interbreeding with the 1537 01:24:44.560 --> 01:24:47.680 indigenous people, I was thinking, like they And then the 1538 01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:50.520 Welsh thing, well, they used the Saint George flag. That's 1539 01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:53.800 like they're one of their patrons saints. It's it's sort 1540 01:24:53.800 --> 01:24:55.399 of murky, right because. 1541 01:24:55.159 --> 01:24:58.079 There's Saint George is the town in Utah, and there 1542 01:24:58.279 --> 01:25:01.800 was a George h can it or now George Smith 1543 01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:05.520 not George A Smith, George Smith that was actually referred 1544 01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:06.560 to as Saint George. 1545 01:25:07.840 --> 01:25:13.479 Oh well, in Canada it was predominantly sorry, sorry, Jada, 1546 01:25:18.680 --> 01:25:21.800 predominantly here it was Scottish and French men who married 1547 01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:25.199 Native women, and that's who were the treaty signatories. J 1548 01:25:25.319 --> 01:25:26.960 J and I have discussed this quite at line because 1549 01:25:27.199 --> 01:25:30.359 I find it very interesting for like, especially Western American history, 1550 01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:32.880 but it's not really American, but it takes place a 1551 01:25:32.960 --> 01:25:36.760 lot in America, like the story of the Meyiti Rebellion 1552 01:25:37.199 --> 01:25:41.640 sort of this French Republican uprising very similar to probably 1553 01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:45.920 funded by the certain Napoleonic factions against the British crown. 1554 01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:49.239 They that that takes place in Montana a large part 1555 01:25:49.279 --> 01:25:52.399 of that story. So it's just really interesting because we're 1556 01:25:52.439 --> 01:25:56.239 talking like they're talking like this messianic It sounds very 1557 01:25:56.359 --> 01:25:58.439 ghost dance religion to me. 1558 01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:02.680 Being and they wanted to make them white. I mean 1559 01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:05.279 that was the quote from Brigham Young. Was to marry 1560 01:26:05.359 --> 01:26:07.600 the natives so that they could make them more white 1561 01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:11.720 and delightsome and by their children. 1562 01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:17.800 You mentioned the families of the Mormons. Cut out my back. 1563 01:26:18.239 --> 01:26:21.600 Oh you mentioned back you met the pioneering families. Isn't 1564 01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:24.880 it strange? And again, no disrespect to your pioneering heritage, 1565 01:26:25.239 --> 01:26:28.279 isn't it strange? The political power of the pioneering family 1566 01:26:28.359 --> 01:26:29.399 still maintain in the West. 1567 01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:35.439 Oh, I mean, it doesn't just happen, it's it's it's 1568 01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:38.079 set up. There's a hierarchy here, and we see it 1569 01:26:38.239 --> 01:26:42.000 in this case with RFK that what the hell would 1570 01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:45.199 a Mormon have to do with anything like this? Right? 1571 01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:48.319 But they do. And the and the big part is, 1572 01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:52.399 and I venture to state, is because of their alien 1573 01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:56.199 quote unquote alien knowledge. More people I talked to about 1574 01:26:56.319 --> 01:26:59.279 channeling and that they had people that could do this 1575 01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:02.920 and all these things, like, I just think they broke 1576 01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:06.319 the code because they were able to learn language and 1577 01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:10.560 what was Johnny, oh, uncle Johnny a professor of that's 1578 01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:14.880 right language. And so maybe these skills, you know, were 1579 01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:18.359 passed on naturally or learned whichever way you want to 1580 01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:21.960 do it, but it's passed on through the generations and 1581 01:27:22.079 --> 01:27:25.119 it opens up lines that we would never know if 1582 01:27:25.159 --> 01:27:27.840 you couldn't read or hear their tradition. 1583 01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:31.279 So for sure, like an epigenetic side of thing, you 1584 01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:33.119 passed to the bloodline this type of situation. 1585 01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:36.960 I think maybe so because I know, you know, the 1586 01:27:37.319 --> 01:27:40.920 mcmaclady that was my great great great great grandma or something. 1587 01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:44.199 She was like the second wife, and you know, there's 1588 01:27:44.239 --> 01:27:47.199 a lot of people that make jokes. Oh yeah, everybody 1589 01:27:47.319 --> 01:27:50.600 has an Indian princess. Well, my grandma was a crazy person. 1590 01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:56.039 She was a genealogy Mormon missionary. So all my stuff's 1591 01:27:56.159 --> 01:27:59.880 like with pictures and coded and tabbed, and I mean 1592 01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:02.640 it's crazy. I pulled it out yesterday and my kids 1593 01:28:02.720 --> 01:28:03.439 were like, what the. 1594 01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:04.039 Hell is that? 1595 01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:08.199 Like whoa? And it's this thick and. 1596 01:28:10.399 --> 01:28:14.039 Right yeah, probably, I'm like, you know this, this makes 1597 01:28:14.079 --> 01:28:18.800 sense for like for certain things. But that joke everybody's 1598 01:28:18.840 --> 01:28:25.199 grandma was maybe that was by design, right, Well, it makes. 1599 01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:27.640 Sense, it makes sense. They even say that the Mohawk 1600 01:28:27.760 --> 01:28:30.680 or the Guardians of the Eastern Gate, well that can 1601 01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:33.960 obviously have a metaphysical implication. I think it's probably like 1602 01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:39.479 some Crawley shit I don't know about. And sure, and 1603 01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:45.039 they hold the Wampum Belt, so they hold literally probably 1604 01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:47.399 the Confederate. Well this is a Canadian conservracy theory, but 1605 01:28:48.439 --> 01:28:51.880 they hold a piece of the Confederation through that Treaty 1606 01:28:51.960 --> 01:28:55.439 belt and the Treaty Belt. Interestingly enough, how Swas goes 1607 01:28:55.479 --> 01:28:55.680 on it. 1608 01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:01.439 Well, of course, you know, I think it's funny that 1609 01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:04.600 they're so into Native Americans, but then later they're like, 1610 01:29:04.680 --> 01:29:09.399 no black people though, okay whatever, Like, okay, we can't 1611 01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:11.119 have one kind of brown, but we can have another 1612 01:29:11.199 --> 01:29:15.800 kind of brown, okay whatever. They're so silly about their backstories, 1613 01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:19.840 don't it just makes you really wonder? Yeah, too much, mellinin, 1614 01:29:20.319 --> 01:29:20.800 that's too much. 1615 01:29:21.640 --> 01:29:23.680 Well, that goes to the fact that they think the 1616 01:29:24.119 --> 01:29:26.720 Native folk or the lost drives though, right, their Hebrews 1617 01:29:26.800 --> 01:29:28.039 right exactly. 1618 01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:29.920 And guess what happened to the guy that tried to 1619 01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:31.640 prove it? Yeah, you got kicked out of the church, 1620 01:29:32.399 --> 01:29:35.560 so by DNA. He wanted to prove it with DNA 1621 01:29:35.640 --> 01:29:38.279 because he was such a great member. Every person that's 1622 01:29:38.319 --> 01:29:42.159 ever tried to prove something, just like the guy that 1623 01:29:42.239 --> 01:29:44.800 wrote the magical book I can't remember the folk magic book. 1624 01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:50.439 He got kicked out too, and I'm like, okay whatever. 1625 01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:54.279 They definitely don't like the recognition of the magic today, right, 1626 01:29:54.520 --> 01:29:57.479 So in regard to the number thirteen we discussed earlier, 1627 01:29:57.920 --> 01:30:01.399 I mean, it should be like, you know, seemingly they 1628 01:30:01.439 --> 01:30:03.560 don't want to recognize it. But looking at the articles 1629 01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:06.000 of faith, right, there's thirteen articles of faith, right, so 1630 01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:08.960 you can at the rude system there's and Mormon is 1631 01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:11.600 we got some we got some seemingly magical situations going on, 1632 01:30:11.720 --> 01:30:14.680 right with thirteen core beliefs, right, the articles of faith 1633 01:30:14.680 --> 01:30:15.199 about Jesus. 1634 01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:19.439 Yeah, there's so similar. They're so similar jin to the 1635 01:30:19.520 --> 01:30:21.520 things that you would do if you were preparing for 1636 01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:24.000 what the abramelin or other rituals. 1637 01:30:24.760 --> 01:30:27.079 Well, even the number thirteen, I mean just like just 1638 01:30:27.159 --> 01:30:30.239 as a very basic cabala idea, you have like that's 1639 01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:34.000 the hasidic number, right, thirteen, And then you can also 1640 01:30:34.079 --> 01:30:36.279 say that in verse is thirty one, because it's like 1641 01:30:36.359 --> 01:30:40.119 the three you take three elements to get one, or 1642 01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:44.520 you distill one element into three, So there's like both 1643 01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:46.880 of those ideas with it. But it's also the infinite. 1644 01:30:47.119 --> 01:30:49.680 Like you know how we talked about how he had 1645 01:30:50.199 --> 01:30:53.399 a pentacle of Jupiter and a dagger of Mars. Well, 1646 01:30:53.439 --> 01:30:56.680 this would be definitely drawing from that, like Jupiter kind 1647 01:30:56.720 --> 01:30:59.520 of like energy. It's like an infinite and expanse. So 1648 01:30:59.560 --> 01:31:01.760 it's kind of the idea. So you can draw a 1649 01:31:01.840 --> 01:31:04.720 lot of wealth and high honors. 1650 01:31:04.359 --> 01:31:07.479 And all that stuff and look at them now, look 1651 01:31:07.560 --> 01:31:11.680 at them now, I dare say they have accomplished their goals, 1652 01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:14.640 and everybody is at this table, they see this, all 1653 01:31:14.720 --> 01:31:17.439 this stuff going on with the heifers and the end 1654 01:31:17.479 --> 01:31:19.520 of world stuff. And I don't know if it's real 1655 01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:23.239 or if it's constructed, but I do know this. Everybody went, Okay, 1656 01:31:23.600 --> 01:31:26.960 show your cards, we're going to do a call. And 1657 01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:28.640 then all of a sudden, the Mormon Church buy is 1658 01:31:28.680 --> 01:31:31.479 the abbey. Okay, that's weird. And then they build down 1659 01:31:31.520 --> 01:31:33.119 the street from the Vatican and then they build their 1660 01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:38.680 own Vatican, and I'm like, Okay, that's weird. And everybody's 1661 01:31:38.760 --> 01:31:40.560 just missing it. You want to know why, because they're 1662 01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:44.279 the nicest people. They're just so fucking nice. So sorry 1663 01:31:44.359 --> 01:31:44.880 you cussed. 1664 01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:51.800 I'm just waiting for alien cargo cults one day, for 1665 01:31:51.960 --> 01:31:54.279 all these ancient alien cargo cults that's on the combined 1666 01:31:54.640 --> 01:31:56.560 voltron style, you know what I mean, that's. 1667 01:31:56.399 --> 01:31:57.680 All I'm it's going to happen. 1668 01:31:58.479 --> 01:31:59.640 They're going to do a colling. 1669 01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:04.199 Yeah, Scientology, Nation of Islam, will they are the same 1670 01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:08.680 thing now, Mormons, Joe's Witnesses. You know, that's awesome Scientology. 1671 01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:12.760 So I mean together Frontile, you know, with the Lima, 1672 01:32:12.840 --> 01:32:13.800 you know, all these things. 1673 01:32:14.680 --> 01:32:17.399 It's scary to know how many of them think about it. 1674 01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:20.520 JJ think about how many would go together, think about 1675 01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:22.079 that and the power within that. 1676 01:32:23.199 --> 01:32:24.159 Oh for sure. 1677 01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:26.520 I've been, yes, ma'am. I've been mapping these ancient Alien 1678 01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:28.279 Carlo colts for years. There's a lot of them. They 1679 01:32:28.319 --> 01:32:30.279 come in all shapes and sizes, but they all they 1680 01:32:30.319 --> 01:32:32.039 all do the same things and they all get along. 1681 01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:34.239 So that's what I'm saying. I'm waiting for one day 1682 01:32:34.279 --> 01:32:35.479 They're just going to be like, oh, we're all the 1683 01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:36.720 same organization today. 1684 01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:40.399 Well, even the Masons, who do they answer to ultimately, 1685 01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:43.840 Like we talked earlier about like the top guy, right, 1686 01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:47.199 and who is the top guy? And how how they 1687 01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:50.560 refer the same thing? And Mason's they say, what it's 1688 01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:55.079 it's like an esoteric power top guy and he's the one, 1689 01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:59.039 and you know, and so it makes sense, like it's 1690 01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:01.920 just a different style, right, Everybody put their flare on 1691 01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:03.920 it and twisted it around, so it is. 1692 01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:07.880 Yeah, I'm not I'm not convinced that the Vaticans not 1693 01:33:08.039 --> 01:33:09.680 names and alien cargo cold, because. 1694 01:33:09.479 --> 01:33:14.159 They definitely are. And I'm not saying that even in 1695 01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:16.319 a pejorative, but I think that you can make a 1696 01:33:16.520 --> 01:33:20.560 very good case that, like the rosicrucion strain, like whatever, 1697 01:33:21.159 --> 01:33:23.880 if there's factions. I don't know. I do agree with 1698 01:33:23.960 --> 01:33:26.640 you though, JJ, that fraction factions are a really good 1699 01:33:26.680 --> 01:33:30.000 way to explain parapoltics. It makes a lot more sense. 1700 01:33:30.560 --> 01:33:34.479 So yeah, I think definitely Catholicism can be thought of 1701 01:33:34.920 --> 01:33:38.800 like what is narcissism? Really, there's no it's a broad category. 1702 01:33:39.079 --> 01:33:43.279 It's a broad body of literature, all the k fab 1703 01:33:43.399 --> 01:33:46.159 around like what the church fathers did, Like most people 1704 01:33:46.199 --> 01:33:49.079 don't even really know that, let's be honest. So it's 1705 01:33:49.119 --> 01:33:52.199 really hard to say, like what is nacism, what is heaterdox? 1706 01:33:52.239 --> 01:33:54.880 What is Orthodox? It's just like it's all flavors of 1707 01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:57.119 kind of like exactly how he said, it's kind of 1708 01:33:57.159 --> 01:33:58.880 a spin off just like all this. 1709 01:33:59.239 --> 01:34:02.159 Right, Yeah, that's why Masonry just says you have to 1710 01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:03.319 believe in a higher power. 1711 01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:05.520 You know, a lot of times I've even said I 1712 01:34:05.600 --> 01:34:07.159 thought myself, a lot of it is kind of like 1713 01:34:07.279 --> 01:34:11.039 a cult that or like bringing like cabalistic ideas into Catholicism. 1714 01:34:11.439 --> 01:34:14.239 And you know, at some point, like I do mention 1715 01:34:14.359 --> 01:34:16.399 over and over again, at some point in the Catholic 1716 01:34:16.479 --> 01:34:18.199 Church that was actually a big thing to do where 1717 01:34:18.239 --> 01:34:20.680 they thought it was actually you know, bringing breakthrough ideas 1718 01:34:20.720 --> 01:34:23.640 and understanding the Bible and a cult sense. More so, 1719 01:34:23.760 --> 01:34:27.039 maybe that idea is still you know, being used in 1720 01:34:27.119 --> 01:34:27.560 other ways. 1721 01:34:29.439 --> 01:34:33.960 That's interesting. Religion interesting. Wow. 1722 01:34:34.399 --> 01:34:36.359 That's why I've always looked at it like that, because 1723 01:34:36.359 --> 01:34:37.640 I mean, if you really do think about it, a 1724 01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:39.000 lot of times when you looked at a lot of 1725 01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:42.000 Gnostic stuff, they are kind of still pulling from, you know, 1726 01:34:42.119 --> 01:34:43.600 stuff from Catholicism. 1727 01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:46.960 But it's like occulted weird funny stories, you know. 1728 01:34:47.079 --> 01:34:49.520 Did you guys ever think it's weird too? Like during 1729 01:34:49.600 --> 01:34:52.399 the DNA grab of twenty twenty, that certain people got 1730 01:34:52.479 --> 01:34:54.520 more sick than others, Did you think that was weird? 1731 01:34:54.720 --> 01:34:58.000 Because I did. I watched it as a nurse. I 1732 01:34:58.119 --> 01:35:03.680 watched darker shades of brown. We'll go there, get very 1733 01:35:03.760 --> 01:35:09.119 sick and or die. Yes here in twenty twenty, I 1734 01:35:09.199 --> 01:35:12.439 don't know if that happened, right, yep. I think they've 1735 01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:15.920 been figuring this out for a long time, ever since 1736 01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:17.680 they gave people blankets for free. 1737 01:35:18.319 --> 01:35:18.520 Oh. 1738 01:35:20.720 --> 01:35:23.479 One thing I do even have thought was definitely sorry neck, no, 1739 01:35:23.600 --> 01:35:25.520 It's okay, go ahead, go ahead, gin and then I'll. 1740 01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:28.479 Uh no, I just want to say that. And I 1741 01:35:28.640 --> 01:35:30.359 think that was very genous to say. I think the 1742 01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:33.079 tribes they targeted because I do think that they believe 1743 01:35:33.119 --> 01:35:36.680 that there are some native people, some not all, because 1744 01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:39.560 guys Heidie's made the case like they're really good genealogists, 1745 01:35:39.920 --> 01:35:43.920 so they kind of have everyone's ethno linguistic affinity mRNA 1746 01:35:44.079 --> 01:35:47.319 line you could say, figured out, so they would say 1747 01:35:47.399 --> 01:35:50.039 some tribes are actually distinct. And that's been a lot 1748 01:35:50.039 --> 01:35:50.680 of will. 1749 01:35:50.560 --> 01:35:55.039 Will they kill this easier than another would would? Diabolically 1750 01:35:55.279 --> 01:35:58.119 enough to say, hey, if we put this in a 1751 01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:04.239 in a pokey, would it kill the less better? Like 1752 01:36:04.439 --> 01:36:08.159 the little lesser events? Right, it's weird. 1753 01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:11.760 I'm not a good judge of these type of topics 1754 01:36:11.800 --> 01:36:13.840 because I've getten hit with so many things from the 1755 01:36:13.880 --> 01:36:16.079 military over the years. I'm surprised I'm still moving. 1756 01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:19.439 Well, that's because you're immune for. 1757 01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:21.520 The guinea pigs of a lot of these things before 1758 01:36:21.520 --> 01:36:22.680 they get public in the first place. 1759 01:36:22.840 --> 01:36:23.880 The troops that is, you know. 1760 01:36:24.479 --> 01:36:28.520 But who who survives? It is an interesting tale, and 1761 01:36:28.720 --> 01:36:29.880 I think there's a lot. 1762 01:36:30.680 --> 01:36:33.439 It's probably the study, right, we'll give them, We'll see 1763 01:36:33.439 --> 01:36:35.760 how many we can put in them and see how 1764 01:36:35.760 --> 01:36:36.479 many of them survive. 1765 01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:41.560 Yeah, I don't know. It's Jin's point is I think 1766 01:36:41.760 --> 01:36:45.319 very interesting because I think that what you're hitting on 1767 01:36:45.479 --> 01:36:48.520 there is exactly what I've always been thinking since twenty 1768 01:36:48.600 --> 01:36:52.800 twenty is this was a selection of who gets to 1769 01:36:52.920 --> 01:36:55.479 be here, and they're I don't think they've fully unleashed 1770 01:36:55.520 --> 01:36:55.880 that yet. 1771 01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:00.880 That's a kiss. 1772 01:37:03.079 --> 01:37:04.399 All for entertainment purposes. 1773 01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:09.720 No, no, I've I've thought like that myself. So especially 1774 01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:13.199 with Mormons. I think maybe you think this is a 1775 01:37:13.239 --> 01:37:14.920 good good time to wrap it up, or is there 1776 01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:16.479 something else you want to cover before we go on. 1777 01:37:16.880 --> 01:37:17.960 I mean, this might be a good time. 1778 01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:20.880 No, yeah, no, that was really you guys have had 1779 01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:22.000 some amazing points. 1780 01:37:22.159 --> 01:37:25.279 Thank you, thank you, thank you for. 1781 01:37:26.760 --> 01:37:29.199 Of course, if if I may add to a closing 1782 01:37:29.239 --> 01:37:31.520 point here, Nick, I'd like to have a closing point 1783 01:37:31.560 --> 01:37:33.640 here on where the discussion started before we went full 1784 01:37:33.680 --> 01:37:36.239 blood Mormon on everybody with Sir Hans, Sir Han stuff 1785 01:37:36.520 --> 01:37:39.279 and his Mormon business, right, so it is not he 1786 01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:41.239 you know, I think it is very interesting. Again, these 1787 01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:44.520 the pioneering Mormon families still maintain a very strong power 1788 01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:45.600 structure out west. 1789 01:37:45.399 --> 01:37:48.319 And it is it is, you know, not exactly surprising. 1790 01:37:48.439 --> 01:37:50.199 I didn't realize ben Rich was the mom I'm not 1791 01:37:50.239 --> 01:37:54.399 exactly surprising giving his aerospace affanities along with Howard Hughes, right, 1792 01:37:54.439 --> 01:37:56.960 they would be you know, this all this all makes sense. 1793 01:37:57.000 --> 01:37:59.760 And again, employing folks like than Eugene Caesar make a 1794 01:37:59.800 --> 01:38:01.279 lot of sense to me when they're kind of in 1795 01:38:01.359 --> 01:38:05.439 this whole ancient alien cargo cult network of folks being processed, 1796 01:38:05.520 --> 01:38:08.479 you know, related apparently. So it's interesting to note the 1797 01:38:08.520 --> 01:38:12.199 folks who dropped or the more RFK was before he 1798 01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:14.680 got dropped off of the Ambassador Hotel that night for 1799 01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:16.920 his murder, he was at. He was at a party 1800 01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:21.720 over Malibu that along with folks like Sharon Tate, Rowan Polanski. 1801 01:38:22.960 --> 01:38:26.520 So these things, you know, with Sir Han Zaran being 1802 01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:29.920 associated with the Planski's already preceding this, you know, patating 1803 01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:32.640 Polanski that, you know, I don't think any of these 1804 01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:36.159 things should be ignored as sure happenstance with these process elements. 1805 01:38:36.479 --> 01:38:38.640 And again I'm still not convinced that the. 1806 01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:44.720 Processes churches and you know, corporation documents solistic a you know, 1807 01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:47.239 council of the seventy there or sorry, a quorum of 1808 01:38:47.239 --> 01:38:49.039 the seventy I'm not I'm not convinced that's not. 1809 01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:52.319 Also, the Mormons Quorum of the seventy so mm hmm. 1810 01:38:53.439 --> 01:38:56.000 Yeah, makes you wonder with the Quorum of the fifty 1811 01:38:56.079 --> 01:38:58.039 that we know for sure that they said they allow, 1812 01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:02.960 you know, non Mormons in there. So it's wild, it's wild. 1813 01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:07.279 Weird, it would be weird. But like I said, Voltron, right, which. 1814 01:39:07.119 --> 01:39:10.279 One is, well, I'm sorry, sorry, guys, fifty or the 1815 01:39:10.359 --> 01:39:11.600 seventy which. 1816 01:39:11.479 --> 01:39:14.560 In the higher fifty secret the fifty is not supposed 1817 01:39:14.600 --> 01:39:16.960 to be known, but thank you. 1818 01:39:17.159 --> 01:39:20.079 The seventies the official operational body of the of the 1819 01:39:20.279 --> 01:39:22.239 of the Church of the Mothership in Salt Lake. 1820 01:39:22.479 --> 01:39:25.279 They do all they do all yeah, the mothers. 1821 01:39:27.560 --> 01:39:29.880 This actually makes a lot of sense, I won't. I know, 1822 01:39:30.039 --> 01:39:32.159 Nick wants to close it up, but I there's a 1823 01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:35.359 there's a couple of stick kind of read like reasoning 1824 01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:38.520 behind the numerology even like why the five would hide 1825 01:39:38.560 --> 01:39:43.600 behind the seven kind of it's it's interesting, you're. 1826 01:39:43.479 --> 01:39:44.840 Gonna leave us like that jin. 1827 01:39:46.319 --> 01:39:46.680 One thing. 1828 01:39:47.199 --> 01:39:49.640 One thing I did want to I'll leave people with 1829 01:39:49.840 --> 01:39:52.720 to make up for a Gin's cliffanger. It's just well, 1830 01:39:52.720 --> 01:39:54.560 it's why well, I don't know if it's really opinion. 1831 01:39:54.640 --> 01:39:56.640 I mean that's kind of like how it is. But 1832 01:39:56.760 --> 01:39:59.039 it's just my opinion you should think about it is 1833 01:39:59.079 --> 01:40:01.279 that even in US this it is also based off 1834 01:40:01.319 --> 01:40:05.000 of three books that were supposedly not included in the Bible, 1835 01:40:06.439 --> 01:40:09.159 So I mean, even going on for that, I mean, obviously, 1836 01:40:09.239 --> 01:40:11.159 in my opinion, even though it's not in the Bible, 1837 01:40:11.279 --> 01:40:14.640 it's still coming from a Catholic source or you know 1838 01:40:14.680 --> 01:40:15.159 what I'm saying. 1839 01:40:15.239 --> 01:40:17.079 It's interesting. Just want to ay that in there. 1840 01:40:17.119 --> 01:40:19.399 That's another reason why I do say I think this 1841 01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:24.720 Catholicism kind of in there. So uh again, thank you 1842 01:40:24.880 --> 01:40:26.880 very thank you very much Heidi for coming on. That 1843 01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:29.560 was amazing. I loved all the pictures. I love the receipts. 1844 01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:32.840 Sorry about that mishap before I would be edited out, 1845 01:40:32.920 --> 01:40:35.199 nobody get to hear it. But unfortunately we did loser 1846 01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:35.880 for a few minutes. 1847 01:40:36.239 --> 01:40:37.760 But she was a gangster and king when they're like, 1848 01:40:37.840 --> 01:40:39.560 hey Heidi, yeah, yeah. 1849 01:40:39.359 --> 01:40:41.479 I felt so bad. I was like, Yo, she's not 1850 01:40:41.560 --> 01:40:44.319 gonna know for a while. She's got of pictures. But 1851 01:40:44.840 --> 01:40:47.319 thank you so much. Please let everybody know where they 1852 01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:48.439 can find your amazing show. 1853 01:40:50.079 --> 01:40:51.760 Awesome, thank you so much for having me. And this 1854 01:40:51.840 --> 01:40:53.680 has been a fun time. I love coming on with 1855 01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:55.880 these guys and never feel bad to interrupt. I think 1856 01:40:55.920 --> 01:40:59.840 it's such an amazing thing to have conversations, not just presentations. 1857 01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:02.560 I am Heidi Love at the Unfiltered Rise. I'm everywhere 1858 01:41:02.600 --> 01:41:05.000 podcasts are served. I do have a Patreon if you 1859 01:41:05.039 --> 01:41:07.800 want two extra shows a month, and I have my 1860 01:41:07.920 --> 01:41:12.239 own website, Unfiltered ricepodcast dot com. And I don't normally 1861 01:41:12.319 --> 01:41:12.760 sound like this. 1862 01:41:13.279 --> 01:41:16.520 Thank you, awesome, Thank you a getting so much Hidi. Yeah, 1863 01:41:16.520 --> 01:41:18.920 and everybody, for the people just hearing her for the 1864 01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:22.920 first time, go check out her stuff, jin the Ninja, 1865 01:41:23.119 --> 01:41:23.760 what is going on? 1866 01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:26.840 Please let everybody know where they can find your stuff 1867 01:41:26.840 --> 01:41:27.119 as well. 1868 01:41:27.920 --> 01:41:29.960 Awesome, thank you, and thank you so much Nick for 1869 01:41:30.079 --> 01:41:33.000 inviting me on this series with Andre. It was it 1870 01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:36.640 was great. I honestly learned so much Heidi on so 1871 01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:39.760 thank you. So yeah, No, this was really It's really 1872 01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:42.159 interesting because I don't really know this history at all. 1873 01:41:42.479 --> 01:41:43.880 This is kind of like it's a whole brand new 1874 01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:46.560 to me. So just like interesting, making interesting connections. As 1875 01:41:46.600 --> 01:41:50.079 Heidi speaking, maybe sounds a little cabal skeetso sometimes, but 1876 01:41:50.800 --> 01:41:53.800 you know, I'm there, I try to, you know, I 1877 01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:58.760 like it I like it. People want to find me 1878 01:41:58.960 --> 01:42:02.399 Threshold Saints, Spotify, Apple, anywhere you get your podcasts. 1879 01:42:02.840 --> 01:42:02.920 Uh. 1880 01:42:03.159 --> 01:42:05.920 We talked a lot about metafiction, and obviously Nick's been 1881 01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:10.279 a guest and Usna kwon JJ JJ I did a 1882 01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:12.640 big trouble a little China and JJ and that will 1883 01:42:12.760 --> 01:42:16.239 drop on my feed sometime very soon. And uh yeah, 1884 01:42:16.399 --> 01:42:17.239 thank you guys so much. 1885 01:42:17.279 --> 01:42:21.359 It was really great, awesome, thank you and JJ. Please 1886 01:42:21.439 --> 01:42:22.640 let everybody know what's up with you. 1887 01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:24.920 Nick. 1888 01:42:24.920 --> 01:42:29.319 I always appreciate, appreciate the conversations, Sir Heidi. Always always 1889 01:42:29.319 --> 01:42:31.000 great to link up and talk more business. 1890 01:42:31.560 --> 01:42:34.640 In fact, I'm looking forward to conversation here on Friday 1891 01:42:34.960 --> 01:42:37.039 when you're a guest online and Nick Show Fridays here 1892 01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:39.720 every every Friday night a nine pm. But this Friday 1893 01:42:39.760 --> 01:42:42.560 with with Heidi talking more Mormon stuff, and I'll bring 1894 01:42:42.640 --> 01:42:44.800 some more of my thoughts on these these questionable rigs 1895 01:42:44.840 --> 01:42:45.640 and stories. 1896 01:42:45.279 --> 01:42:46.079 Of the Mormon Church. 1897 01:42:46.159 --> 01:42:48.319 As we know, it's already under question with some of 1898 01:42:48.359 --> 01:42:51.239 these magical ceremonies, but I've kind of reversed engineered some 1899 01:42:51.359 --> 01:42:54.000 thoughts on how some of these started and were the 1900 01:42:54.079 --> 01:42:56.479 books that Joseph Smith used in which to make the 1901 01:42:56.520 --> 01:42:59.800 book a Mormon, there's you know, there's one that's commonly identified. 1902 01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:02.600 But I also used another book in my opinion, from 1903 01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:05.920 a founding father named Elias Budeno. So it all goes 1904 01:43:05.960 --> 01:43:08.279 back to the Saetay Cincinnati. It all goes back to 1905 01:43:08.359 --> 01:43:10.880 these mounds. But you know it's I got some interesting 1906 01:43:10.960 --> 01:43:13.600 thoughts to go over with you on that for for Fridays, 1907 01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:15.239 and I think we were going to talk some bombing 1908 01:43:15.279 --> 01:43:18.399 stuff too, I believe some some uh Mark Hoffman stuff. 1909 01:43:18.479 --> 01:43:18.680 So that. 1910 01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:24.640 That is this Friday, correct Friday, This Friday coming up? 1911 01:43:24.720 --> 01:43:27.079 JJ, that is right, yeah, this Friday coming up? 1912 01:43:27.159 --> 01:43:27.319 Yet? 1913 01:43:27.439 --> 01:43:28.279 Oh wow, that's what see. 1914 01:43:28.359 --> 01:43:30.479 Now this this show is going to drop Saturday and 1915 01:43:30.560 --> 01:43:32.960 always drop that show Fridays on Saturday. 1916 01:43:33.039 --> 01:43:33.239 So the. 1917 01:43:34.800 --> 01:43:36.000 Back and then you. 1918 01:43:37.479 --> 01:43:39.560 Cal Rejex are going to get a double dose on Saturday. 1919 01:43:39.680 --> 01:43:44.079 HEIGHTI she's going to be on both shows them. Yeah, awesome, all. 1920 01:43:44.039 --> 01:43:45.600 Right, I'm glad you brought that up. I wasn't even 1921 01:43:45.640 --> 01:43:46.000 thinking that. 1922 01:43:46.239 --> 01:43:50.159 Yeah, yeah, because I dropped Friday's show on Saturday. Audio wise, 1923 01:43:50.199 --> 01:43:52.239 she's gonna yeah, people are gonna get two shows with her. 1924 01:43:52.800 --> 01:43:53.720 Cool. Cool. 1925 01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:56.399 Hopefully my voice will be better by Friday. I know. 1926 01:43:56.479 --> 01:43:58.680 I sounded yes, that's true. 1927 01:43:58.760 --> 01:44:00.439 So if people listen to this Friday and you go 1928 01:44:00.520 --> 01:44:03.119 back to the next to the Fridays, you'll hear the 1929 01:44:03.199 --> 01:44:03.960 different show. 1930 01:44:04.720 --> 01:44:07.279 So I actually have a question for Heidi before we close, 1931 01:44:07.319 --> 01:44:12.319 as Heidi, do you think that Howard Hugh Do you 1932 01:44:12.359 --> 01:44:15.840 think the Mormons believed that Howard Hughes was a magician. 1933 01:44:17.600 --> 01:44:20.760 I think the Mormons took something from Howard Hughes that 1934 01:44:20.880 --> 01:44:26.359 he got from a not here entity, not from this planet. 1935 01:44:27.720 --> 01:44:30.760 He definitely said under all his flight projects that he 1936 01:44:31.000 --> 01:44:34.439 had had encounters. It is rumored that he had his 1937 01:44:34.640 --> 01:44:37.600 own hangar Area fifty one, and that they called him 1938 01:44:37.640 --> 01:44:41.680 in for multiple crashes. And I think that his crashes, 1939 01:44:42.239 --> 01:44:45.479 being as an adeptive pilot as he was, were purposeful 1940 01:44:46.640 --> 01:44:50.479 and that they might have been trying to punish him 1941 01:44:50.920 --> 01:44:53.359 for not doing the things that they said they wanted 1942 01:44:53.399 --> 01:44:58.239 the bombing to stop, and he did specifically say things 1943 01:44:58.560 --> 01:45:03.239 could come through, not always good when there was that energy. 1944 01:45:03.399 --> 01:45:08.800 So I think that that Gay who was his little 1945 01:45:09.079 --> 01:45:13.760 errand boy who became the top head of his whole corporation, 1946 01:45:15.439 --> 01:45:17.920 got something from him. Why he was in an altered 1947 01:45:18.000 --> 01:45:22.199 mental state, we'll put it that way. Interesting, They have 1948 01:45:22.319 --> 01:45:27.560 the key. They have the key. I'm gonna find out 1949 01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:29.359 what the hell that key is. They drive me crazy, 1950 01:45:31.800 --> 01:45:34.880 not the pre stud keys. They got the keys anyway. 1951 01:45:35.960 --> 01:45:38.960 I definitely appreciate the conversation and again a host of 1952 01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:44.159 Operation GCD, JJ Vance and Jenna Ninja, I highly recommend 1953 01:45:44.199 --> 01:45:46.880 the Big Trouble Little China episode we did their jen 1954 01:45:47.239 --> 01:45:47.720 Jena Ninja. 1955 01:45:47.760 --> 01:45:48.840 Hopefully you will join me. 1956 01:45:48.880 --> 01:45:52.760 For a future cold esoteric review of The Golden Child 1957 01:45:52.920 --> 01:45:54.479 starring Oh Yo. 1958 01:45:54.640 --> 01:45:56.560 I would love to do that with you, guys. I've 1959 01:45:56.600 --> 01:45:58.760 actually thought about. Shit you not, I've thought about doing 1960 01:45:58.800 --> 01:46:01.479 that on the cult region. Oh yeah, oh that show 1961 01:46:02.079 --> 01:46:02.880 so much fun. 1962 01:46:05.319 --> 01:46:06.319 With everyone. 1963 01:46:08.079 --> 01:46:10.039 That I swear to God. I think that movie is 1964 01:46:10.199 --> 01:46:11.000 deepest ship. 1965 01:46:10.880 --> 01:46:14.800 With definitely understands. 1966 01:46:15.279 --> 01:46:16.239 I think I think you get. 1967 01:46:17.760 --> 01:46:17.880 Right. 1968 01:46:19.279 --> 01:46:23.920 Huh, go ahead, Jim would I think it's. 1969 01:46:25.640 --> 01:46:29.079 Character a folly, but he's into bed solving mysteries, dealing 1970 01:46:29.119 --> 01:46:32.600 with Eastern you know, Eastern video practices, right or Eastern mysticism, right. 1971 01:46:33.119 --> 01:46:35.239 Well, that's what they're all drawn to, right, Like, it's 1972 01:46:35.359 --> 01:46:37.439 very clear even the people that say they are not, 1973 01:46:37.960 --> 01:46:40.920 like if they'll say explicitly, we're not really in contra 1974 01:46:41.560 --> 01:46:45.079 but yeah, yeah, you are you see big liars, because 1975 01:46:45.119 --> 01:46:48.399 they all they're drawing, they're drawing a lot from it, 1976 01:46:49.119 --> 01:46:51.439 like so much so that it's obvious to me. And 1977 01:46:51.520 --> 01:46:54.359 I'm not like some you know, great stage in the 1978 01:46:54.439 --> 01:46:55.920 mountains like for real, so. 1979 01:46:57.880 --> 01:47:00.640 Carel big liars. I like that quote. 1980 01:47:00.880 --> 01:47:03.279 Run with that well, sounds sounds like we've got a 1981 01:47:03.479 --> 01:47:04.920 new joke coming up here on that one. Then in 1982 01:47:04.960 --> 01:47:08.960 the future. You're on Operation GC today, great conversation. Appreciate it. 1983 01:47:10.359 --> 01:47:11.800 Uh yeah, thank you all. 1984 01:47:11.880 --> 01:47:15.039 Thank you all again for coming on, and again, specially Heidi, 1985 01:47:15.079 --> 01:47:17.000 all the work you did in our newest addition to 1986 01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:17.760 the Occult Rejects. 1987 01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:19.560 Thank you so much. I appreciate it. 1988 01:47:20.239 --> 01:47:22.439 And uh that's the end of another Cult reject and 1989 01:47:22.560 --> 01:47:25.439 until the next one, everybody be well later.