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Thank you? 54 00:02:20,199 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: Get you hooked up with that number one. 55 00:02:22,199 --> 00:02:24,439 Speaker 3: Hey, give us a brief update house, family, house work, 56 00:02:24,479 --> 00:02:27,080 give us some updates on your on your life. 57 00:02:28,439 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it just seems like life kids busier day by day. 58 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:35,639 My kids are getting older, and I turned fifty this year. 59 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,120 I can't believe that I'm not old. It's driving me crazy. 60 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,000 But life is good. Business is good, and we're just 61 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:41,840 moving forward. 62 00:02:42,439 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: Still young, in spry, uh and still still you can 63 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,400 still sling it, man. 64 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,719 Speaker 2: We saw it at the Alumni game. Just still slinging it, man. 65 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,039 Speaker 3: So still in great shape even in your supposed old age. 66 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 4: Oh man, I don't I don't feel it. I appreciate 67 00:02:56,879 --> 00:02:58,680 you saying that, but I don't feel like I can 68 00:02:58,719 --> 00:03:01,479 still actually throw us fired off anymore. 69 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,879 Speaker 2: It you can't, man, you can't. 70 00:03:03,879 --> 00:03:06,319 Speaker 3: You're part of the what I would deem as the 71 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,520 resurgence of the quarterback factory. Right, we was talking about 72 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,919 the quarterback Factory QBU. 73 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: In the seventies and eighties and nineties. 74 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,039 Speaker 3: There was a ton of great quarterbacks and even into 75 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,680 the you know, the the late nineties, right, good quarterbacks. 76 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:26,280 A lot of NFL talent since two thousand. Okay, you've 77 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:29,960 been in you played in the league. You had John Beck, 78 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:39,199 Max Hall, Taysom Hill, Zach Wilson, Jaren Hall, Keaton Slovas, 79 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,719 and you may have another one in Bear Blackmer. 80 00:03:41,759 --> 00:03:42,879 Speaker 2: I think that's pretty impressive. 81 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: You look at the NFL talent still coming through Brigham 82 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,039 in the last twenty five years, at the quarterback in 83 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,960 the quarterback room, I think it's an impressive number to 84 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,240 see how many guys have not only drafted or undrafted 85 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,759 free agents that actually end up playing some ball in 86 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,439 the NFL and being on rosters. 87 00:03:57,439 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 4: Your thoughts, oh, man, it really is. I think if 88 00:04:02,759 --> 00:04:06,680 Klawney and Aaron the most by far, in my opinion, 89 00:04:06,719 --> 00:04:08,560 the best thing they've done with this program has been 90 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,800 to keep the coverads full of quarterbacks. This Bear Bachmeyer 91 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:15,960 get during the off season was obviously a critical, critical 92 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,759 get for the team, and had they not done that, 93 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,319 you know, the season could have been completely different. And 94 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,079 I've always said that as goes in the quarterbacks, so 95 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,839 goes the team. And there's so many reasons why I 96 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:29,079 say that, not just the way the guy plays on 97 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,680 the field and the way that he contributes his as 98 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,600 a leader, but it also has a significant impact on 99 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:37,360 the team throughout the entire twelve months of preparation going 100 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:41,000 in and man, they've done a great job with that. 101 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,759 And there should be there should be three or four 102 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,800 constantly in the cupboards and more and more coming. They 103 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,639 should be always, you know, offer these scholarships and getting 104 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:55,199 commitments and making sure that they've got, you know, a 105 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,079 full cupboard of quarterbacks in the weight and in the program. 106 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: You were a part of the trajectory, the productivity, the 107 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:08,040 recruitment of I want to say, three of these guys, 108 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,360 John Beck, Max Hall, Taysom Hill. 109 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk about these three NFL quarterbacks. 110 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: And what you saw on them when you were maybe 111 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,680 recruiting them, developing them, coaching them at BUYU. 112 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 4: Well, Joan Beck has one of the most extraordinary throwing 113 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,279 arms ever. I mean, I think anybody that evaluated him 114 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:35,199 going into the NFL, anybody that knew him at BYU, 115 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,160 would say the same thing. He had such a powerfully 116 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,600 quick release and explosive ball that came out of his hand, 117 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,279 and it's really really one of the main reasons he 118 00:05:45,319 --> 00:05:48,759 got drafted as high as he did because evaluating quarterbacks 119 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,160 throughout his class coming out, no one could throw a 120 00:05:52,199 --> 00:05:54,920 better ball than he could throw. And what was fun 121 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,839 for me was to watch him not only be a 122 00:05:57,879 --> 00:05:59,920 guy that had a strong arm and could really laser 123 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,160 football round, but also develop into a guy with absolute 124 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,120 competitive greatness, a guy that could behind in football games, 125 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:13,040 that could pick football games and win. And I don't 126 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,480 know all the res why he wasn't able to be 127 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:18,079 successful in the NFL, but I know that d YU. 128 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,519 It was really fun to see him transit from losing 129 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:24,800 records into you know, winning records at BYU and then 130 00:06:24,879 --> 00:06:27,160 ultimately win a championship and win a big game at 131 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:32,560 University of Utah. So that's been fun to Max. Match 132 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,079 got to come in to b YU when we were winning, 133 00:06:36,519 --> 00:06:40,000 and he got to experience John Beck's senior year. He 134 00:06:40,079 --> 00:06:42,240 saw how we did things. He got to see a 135 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,079 winning culture and a winning environment. But he was so 136 00:06:45,199 --> 00:06:48,879 unusual he was ineligible his freshman year at b YU. 137 00:06:49,519 --> 00:06:52,319 The guy packed up his car, packed up his bags, 138 00:06:52,959 --> 00:06:55,439 drove down to Las Vegas where we were, you know, 139 00:06:55,519 --> 00:07:01,120 at our bowl game, and came out there and practice 140 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,360 on his own, basically behind the team at the practice. 141 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 5: And it was you remember that guy, a guy that 142 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,720 was so anxious to play, a guy that had such 143 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:16,319 unique competitive grit, couldn't throw it like like John could 144 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:19,600 throw it, but had plenty of arm, but just had 145 00:07:19,879 --> 00:07:23,319 had some unusual intangibles that when he got to the 146 00:07:23,319 --> 00:07:26,800 Arizona Cardinals as an undrafted free agent. 147 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,439 Speaker 4: You know, because he was only six y' one and 148 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,519 you know, two hundred pounds and and you know, just 149 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,879 didn't have the tangible aspects of what most of those 150 00:07:34,879 --> 00:07:38,000 guys need. Is why he didn't get drafted. It didn't 151 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,399 take very long before they couldn't help themselves but to 152 00:07:41,399 --> 00:07:45,439 put him on the on the field eventually, because he 153 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:51,240 had that presence, demanding, demanding from the players, demanding from 154 00:07:51,279 --> 00:07:53,319 the coaches, and just he wanted to put the guy 155 00:07:53,319 --> 00:07:55,279 on the grass. It was so fun to coach him, 156 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,480 and I think he's a guy that could have played 157 00:07:58,519 --> 00:08:01,639 longer had he not got injured and got into some 158 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,959 of the issues that he dealt with in his life 159 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,680 that he's you know, been fun to see him overcome 160 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,079 and and fight and battle is it. 161 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 5: I think he's just. 162 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: A gritty warrior. 163 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:16,199 Speaker 4: And then Taysom Hill, I don't know the BYU will 164 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,319 see an athlete quite like him ever at the quarterback positioning, 165 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,800 and he's he just not not human. I mean I 166 00:08:23,839 --> 00:08:27,680 watched that guy in loafers, petty loafers and jeans standing 167 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,720 underneath the basket, is going into his senior year of 168 00:08:31,199 --> 00:08:34,519 high school and the football coach tossed him a basketball 169 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,799 and he didn't even take a step. He just grabbed 170 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:39,200 the basketball and jumped straight up in the air and 171 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,840 two hand dunk it in the in the high school gym. 172 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:46,320 And I thought, you know, at that point, I don't 173 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,279 think we had done a very good job recruiting when 174 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,759 I was thinking we blew this a what a miss 175 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,559 by us, And they're enough to commit him with Stamford 176 00:08:54,639 --> 00:08:57,759 to Jim Harbaugh, and he would have never come to BYU. 177 00:08:57,799 --> 00:09:00,600 Had Jim Harbaugh not gone to the forty niners and 178 00:09:01,159 --> 00:09:06,039 left Stanford, it was really the only reason he came. 179 00:09:06,159 --> 00:09:08,840 Unfortunately he did, and BYU, you know, we were there 180 00:09:10,039 --> 00:09:13,960 prepared to give him an opportunity to come to BYU. 181 00:09:14,039 --> 00:09:21,519 And just an exceptional athlete but also an unusual human being. 182 00:09:21,639 --> 00:09:25,480 I mean, that guy is He's just an uncommon person. 183 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,360 And that's why the Saints have hung on to him 184 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,360 as long as they have because he's just so awesome 185 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:35,320 to have in the locker room. His work ethic, his 186 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,519 leadership is just his persona has been so valuable to 187 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,919 the Saints. And he was that way at BYU. 188 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 5: So you're talking. 189 00:09:43,879 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: About three really really different quarterbacks, different athletes, but guys 190 00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:53,440 that in their own way were able to be you know, 191 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,720 produce victories for BYU. They're so fun for fans, I think, 192 00:09:56,759 --> 00:09:59,559 to see different styles of play and different people do it. 193 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, all three super unique quarterbacks and winning in different 194 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:08,840 ways and finding their role in the NFL as well. 195 00:10:08,919 --> 00:10:11,879 So you know, you look at that that grouping, right, 196 00:10:11,919 --> 00:10:14,679 and you're a part of that group as well as 197 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,360 a great quarterback in that era from like two thousand, 198 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,000 you know, and I know Tisum ended up in I 199 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,159 think his final season with twenty and sixteen, but four 200 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,360 quarterbacks over that period of time pretty good. That's a 201 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,559 quarterback factory going to the NFL. You know, it takes, 202 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:34,320 it's the one percent. It's hard to get there and 203 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,679 it's hard to stick there. Then you have you know, 204 00:10:36,759 --> 00:10:39,440 from you know two thousand and twenty there was a 205 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,080 little bit of a drop right, and then you have 206 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:46,080 twenty twenty to present day and you've had Zach Wilson, 207 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:51,159 Jaron Hall, Keaton Slovis. It feels like the quarterback factory 208 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,080 is reinvigorated now. 209 00:10:54,799 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 2: And and what would you attribute that to specifically? 210 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,519 Speaker 4: I would attribute it to Kolane. He understands it. He 211 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:09,080 knows it, He's lived in it. He was raised as 212 00:11:09,159 --> 00:11:12,960 a player and as a coach in the quarterback factory. 213 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:19,639 He knows the culture. I watch him manage the quarterback 214 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,559 and I'm manage the culture of the team to enable 215 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,360 the quarterback to be successful. And I think it takes 216 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,320 a unique head coach and a unique culture to create 217 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,519 that for your quarterback, and BYU is under the leadership 218 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,840 of a head football coach that knows how to develop 219 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,840 the culture for quarterbacks to succeed and it's really fun 220 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,799 to see that. And the one thing that's been unique 221 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:48,679 about BYU over the last five six years, and I 222 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,480 think it's also attributed to these quarterbacks success. And I 223 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,360 can say it for myself personally, I would also say 224 00:11:56,399 --> 00:11:59,559 it for Max and John. I didn't really get the 225 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:04,120 coach the very much. But the run game has been 226 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:05,919 established and has. 227 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:06,639 Speaker 2: Been really good. 228 00:12:08,279 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 4: And when the run game is solid, and you've got 229 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,759 a running back and we've had some running back Luke 230 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,039 Staley with me and we had Rbi Long. I'm sorry 231 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:19,320 Barby Una, and you look at what they've had over 232 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,559 the last few years. You're talking about NFL studs and 233 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,919 Jamal Williams, so on and so forth. That has had 234 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,039 as much of an impact on the success of these 235 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,399 quarterbacks than anything. And then I would add one other 236 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,279 component on that. You know, BYU needs to continue to 237 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:44,200 mate for and I think they've had some mishaps here 238 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:45,759 a little bit over the last a little while and they're 239 00:12:45,759 --> 00:12:48,000 getting in and they've it looks like they're you know, 240 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:50,720 they've been resolving it and Carsion Ryan really helped this year. 241 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,639 They have got to do a better job at making 242 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,200 sure they have a covered of tight ends that are 243 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:03,000 pass catching, route running bulldogs. Right, and if they can 244 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,480 establish tight end factory, quarterback factory, and a run game 245 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,559 the way they've been able to last a little while, 246 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,840 they're going to be able to they're gonna be able 247 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,919 to play in this league and be successful. And the 248 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,120 b a U in their very best years when the 249 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,639 quarterbacks were great and the team the combination of quarterback 250 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,440 being great and the team being great, you had those 251 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,679 three components. You had had great tight ends, great running 252 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,200 backs and a quarterback that can facilitate the ball round 253 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:35,480 and in the times when it hasn't been as good 254 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,480 as because those other components weren't. 255 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: There, Yeah, the tight end room, right, it's important to 256 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,279 bring in great clay and develop that clay and utilize 257 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,919 that clay. There has been for some you know the 258 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,960 perception of like this this undulation. 259 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't. 260 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,399 Speaker 3: In the era that you coached at BYU, you know, 261 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,759 I mean, man, we had a slew of guys Johnny 262 00:13:59,759 --> 00:14:04,399 hart leand and Coats obviously, then Dennis Pitta Andrew George. 263 00:14:04,399 --> 00:14:05,399 Speaker 2: Those were high times. 264 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: The crew that you played with, it always seemed like 265 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:14,200 the elite BYU football teams had twelve personnel employed this last. 266 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,879 Speaker 2: Year and even the year prior. 267 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: You know, there was some twelve personnel, but it seemed 268 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,279 like there was maybe like one tight end that was 269 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,919 really good, maybe a fullback there's more as a blocking guy, 270 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,480 and then then receiving type. You know, you look at 271 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,279 Carson Ryan, he had a pretty stand up year. He 272 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,080 was one of the He was the highest graded tight 273 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:35,159 end per Pro Football Focus forty five reception, six hundred 274 00:14:35,159 --> 00:14:37,879 and twenty yards and three touchdowns. B YU went out 275 00:14:37,879 --> 00:14:41,120 and got Walker Lions Ryder Lions older brother from USC 276 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,080 and then Roger sali Apago, the second and Oorum product 277 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,600 that was at Oregon the last couple of years. Is 278 00:14:47,639 --> 00:14:49,960 the ideal this day and age to have like an 279 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,399 eleven personnel base formation or is it still twelve personnel? 280 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,200 You know, tapping into the BYU ways of old. 281 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 4: BYU is a run first offense and so being able 282 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,960 to have a twelve personnel with tight ends that can flex. 283 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,360 And we know this is BYU fans because we've had 284 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,360 to defend University of Utah over the last handful of years. 285 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:19,039 They have done a phenomenal job of having two tight 286 00:15:19,159 --> 00:15:21,639 ends in the program that can really really go, and 287 00:15:24,159 --> 00:15:28,120 they adopted that style. They're not dummies up there, and 288 00:15:28,159 --> 00:15:31,600 they did a great job. And I think BYU is 289 00:15:31,799 --> 00:15:34,320 working their tails off to regroup in that area. And 290 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:37,039 I'm not saying that they haven't had some good players, 291 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:40,279 they haven't been full. And when a tight end is great, 292 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,799 he can attach himself to the line of scrimmage in 293 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,519 a three point stance, he can stand up and be 294 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:51,000 a single receiver, ball catcher, route runner, and then he 295 00:15:51,039 --> 00:15:53,639 can get into a flex position and still being a 296 00:15:53,679 --> 00:15:57,200 twelve personnel but in a route running stand up position. 297 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,279 And that's hard for the defense because defenses are often 298 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,080 based on personnel grouping and the defensive coordinator doesn't have 299 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,720 to come in to try and determine what's gonna happen. 300 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:09,720 So he's looking at personnel grouping and they're looking at 301 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:13,120 statistics and then they're making making a call. And if 302 00:16:13,399 --> 00:16:17,039 twelve personnel can line up in multiple varieties of formations 303 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:21,919 and be route running, you know, really really tough route runners, 304 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,279 now you're now you're really hard to defend. And b 305 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:31,240 YU couldn't do that last year. They could not do that, 306 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:33,399 and that was hard. And if they got a couple 307 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:36,279 of guys that can can can get into attached and 308 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,639 flex situations and run routes, they're gonna be They're gonna 309 00:16:39,639 --> 00:16:42,000 be even that much better on offense this year. 310 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,559 Speaker 2: I would love to see it. 311 00:16:45,679 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: Some nice acquisitions in the portal this ostas, but they've 312 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,440 been strategic right, not a whole lot of attrition and 313 00:16:52,519 --> 00:16:54,679 not a ton of acquisition. I think they're in the 314 00:16:54,759 --> 00:16:58,360 low teens in both you know, ten third between ten 315 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,679 and thirteen acquisition about ten and thirteen. 316 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 2: You know attritions. 317 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: What does that say about the direction that this Bway 318 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,799 football program is going right? 319 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,279 Speaker 4: It means the players love the university, they love the 320 00:17:15,279 --> 00:17:20,400 head coach, they love the culture of the team. But 321 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,559 it also means that they're being able to there. There's 322 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:25,880 an nil support there and they're able to pay them 323 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:28,920 because many of these guys wouldn't stay. It's just the 324 00:17:29,039 --> 00:17:31,720 nature of the beast. And as much as they love 325 00:17:31,799 --> 00:17:33,839 the culture and they love the team and they love 326 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,880 the head coach, they got an opportunity to get paid. 327 00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:40,240 And many of these guys would have left had they 328 00:17:40,279 --> 00:17:43,720 not been able to receive at least the market value 329 00:17:43,759 --> 00:17:46,720 for who they are in NIL. So you add all 330 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,880 that together and BYUS established an environment where they're not 331 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:58,079 losing players. And this offseason was throughly, truly, I think, 332 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,880 a solid look into what's really going on there, and 333 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,000 I think it bodes well for BYU in the future 334 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:09,839 to see that even though we lost a coordinator and 335 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,000 you know, winning him going to the Michigan by you 336 00:18:13,079 --> 00:18:15,759 held strong and didn't get dismantled. And I think there's 337 00:18:15,759 --> 00:18:18,720 a lot of people that were worried about that, and like, 338 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:23,839 for example, to see our defensive guys hang in there 339 00:18:24,079 --> 00:18:27,920 and some awesome players hang in there when a coach 340 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,400 that they love left, It just really bodes well for 341 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,599 the future of this program. It makes you feel makes 342 00:18:33,599 --> 00:18:36,640 you feel good as a fan that these guys would 343 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,160 stick around. 344 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: Well that breakdown. 345 00:18:39,599 --> 00:18:44,079 Speaker 3: Brandon Doman former BYU great Always love talking ball with you. 346 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: I want to invite everyone. 347 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 3: To check out the products that you do distribute all 348 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,000 manner of products. 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But I appreciate you saying that, Ben, 360 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,559 We we hopefully are just getting started and continue to develop. 361 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,799 You know, you don't be a support to the community 362 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:37,640 as we continue to grow. But it's been really fun. 363 00:19:38,079 --> 00:19:40,519 Speaker 3: Hey, you're doing great work, man. I always appreciate our 364 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:42,799 time together. Thanks for hopping on to talk some Cougar 365 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:44,960 football with me today, brother, and then I'm gonna loop 366 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:47,480 you in with with Brighton Day to get you a 367 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:48,640 new sports performance suit. 368 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: All right, loop me in. 369 00:19:50,599 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: I appreciate it, Ben. 370 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 3: Hey much love to you. Appreciate you Brandon Doman. 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Welcome in Double D The Daily Heraldian 409 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,079 Darnell Dixon. 410 00:21:39,079 --> 00:21:39,759 Speaker 2: What's up, Double D. 411 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: Boy? 412 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 6: I see you had Kilani and Kyle collsw on before me, 413 00:21:44,839 --> 00:21:47,640 so I'm honored actually be on the station after those guys. 414 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,039 Speaker 3: Hey, look, we love having Double D's voice to be 415 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,680 on the show and promulgated throughout all of kugarnation like 416 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,319 there's you're right up there with Kilani quotes and Kyle 417 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,480 Collsworth quote quotes. 418 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll believe that when I see it. But that's 419 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,720 nice of you to say that. 420 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,519 Speaker 3: Hey, you know, you know when I when I like fiery, 421 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,240 you know, opinionated Darnell, because that's what really gets the 422 00:22:16,319 --> 00:22:20,640 coaches down at BYU fired up. Remember Mike Littlewood getting 423 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,160 after you on Twitter when you have made some strong 424 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,240 opinions on on the on the on the Twitter platform. 425 00:22:27,799 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah. And we see him all the time. 426 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,960 He's officiating a college basketball quite a bit, and I 427 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,559 see him on there quite all the time. 428 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Double D. 429 00:22:38,519 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: Sometimes you poke the bear and let's see if he 430 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,160 can give us a hot quote today, controversial quote today. 431 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,519 Speaker 2: It is shining day, Double D. 432 00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 3: You've evaluated, you've weighed, Have you found the prospects lacking, 433 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,640 wanting or do you feel like this was a pretty 434 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,960 good haul for the Cougar football team. 435 00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:03,599 Speaker 6: No, it's an excellent hall. And you know, they keep 436 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:07,279 increasing the number of staff and coaches, so they're going 437 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,480 to have plenty of support these new guys coming into 438 00:23:09,559 --> 00:23:13,319 the program, and there is a lot of talent's obviously 439 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,160 a highly rated class. It's spread out, it's not quite 440 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,920 as special it used to be, where we just had 441 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,359 the one day in February or one day in December 442 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,759 or whatever. We only have two days and BYU is 443 00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:26,920 a program that retained a lot of its talent from 444 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,359 last year, so not a lot of new stuff coming 445 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,359 out this year. They did list some of the guys 446 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,960 returning from missions with mid year enrollies. A lot of 447 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,839 athletes now are taking advantage of graduating from high school 448 00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:40,559 early so they can join the program in January and 449 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:45,599 get into offseason workouts and springball. So those things, you know, 450 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,559 lead you to the look at this group and say 451 00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:50,880 they've filled some nice gap that they had, and they 452 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,200 brought back a lot of players that they think they 453 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,680 can help them. And when you do that, you believe 454 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,960 in your ability as a coaching staff to evaluate talent 455 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,000 and to develop talent. And if they continue to do that, 456 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,000 we'll see them putting on similar seasons as we've seen 457 00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:08,960 the last two where they've put themselves in a position 458 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,000 to be in the college football playoffs. 459 00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: The talent is impressive. 460 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,039 Speaker 3: I believe there was some return missionaries as well that 461 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,720 came back from their respective missions. Are you most excited 462 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,039 about the transfers, Are you most excited about the true 463 00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:30,039 freshmen that aren't going on missions, or are you more 464 00:24:30,079 --> 00:24:31,960 excited about the return missionaries? 465 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:36,839 Speaker 6: Well, some of the true freshmen I've actually seen play. 466 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,200 You know, spend a lot of time watching Devonica and 467 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,880 legend Glasgar at Lehigh. Those are two very talented offensive players. 468 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,000 I think are going to have a great career at 469 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,720 BYU and could have the opportunity to make an impact 470 00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:55,640 early on. But it is really intriguing to look at 471 00:24:56,079 --> 00:25:00,000 players from other schools who have decided to utilize them 472 00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:02,640 transfer portal and come to b YU. You see what 473 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:06,079 their production was like, Like catu Ulave that a linebacker 474 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:11,559 was an All Conference at Cal and at BYU, and 475 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,119 the offensive lineman they brought in to bolster that attack, 476 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,480 and the prospects of keeping Kyle Casper healthy so he 477 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:21,000 can live up to his potential. So those kinds of 478 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:23,440 things intrigued me quite a bit. And then the other 479 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,680 thing that intrigues me is, you know, who is going 480 00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:29,440 to step up from being third fourth string to being 481 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,440 a contributor on defense or even a starter for the Cougars. 482 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,559 So there's lots of that that gets developed over the 483 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:39,839 course of the next several months, including springball, and then 484 00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:41,640 we get to fall camp and see them for real. 485 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:45,440 So that that's that's and what we're seeing now with 486 00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:49,680 college basketball or college football rather is in the off season. 487 00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:51,799 It's not really an off season. There's all all the 488 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,319 transfer portal news and and the free kind of free 489 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:58,920 agency attack as it were listening to an interview today 490 00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:02,799 with former BA HE coach Bronco Mendenhall about why he 491 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,559 continues to coach when others are getting out of coaching 492 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:08,920 because they just don't like this particular grind the way 493 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,240 it's become, and he said his opportunity to help develop 494 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:16,880 and have relationships with the young men in his program 495 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,960 helped them to get better as not just football players, 496 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,200 but as human beings and to set their life in 497 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,640 motion for things they want to do. That keeps him 498 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,240 coming back. But he definitely understands when there are coaches 499 00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:31,359 that decide, this isn't what I signed up for, and 500 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,480 I don't really like this whole landscape of college football anymore. 501 00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:42,279 So it does obviously peak the interest of fans that 502 00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:46,680 it's college sports is more popular, especially football and men's basketball, 503 00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:49,680 than it's ever been, and so people are interested to 504 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,759 see what comes of all these off seas and moves. 505 00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a few missionaries I want to talk about here. 506 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:03,759 He's added eight players from previously signed classes returning home 507 00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:10,000 from missions. Media Enrollees owen Borg linebacker, Matthew Frederick tight end, 508 00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:14,720 Blake Lowe linebacker, Jet Nelson wide receiver. Two we Pututau 509 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:20,319 offensive line, Adney Reed defensive end, David Tungi Lanu defensive 510 00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:25,559 tackle in and Enick Watson quarterback. Out of those editions, 511 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:26,960 who stands out to you? 512 00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 6: One name that stands out to me is Jet Nelson. 513 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,519 He's a wide receiver out of American forks lot because 514 00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:36,359 I saw him play in high school and a very 515 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,160 good you know, he has has the size and the 516 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,359 ability to be successful at this next level, and America 517 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,319 works put out some good wide receivers. Adney Reid is 518 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,599 really interesting because of his situation where he was in. 519 00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:53,799 It wasn't he only played like one or two years 520 00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:57,519 in Utah. And I believe his parent, his dad was 521 00:27:57,559 --> 00:28:00,480 a mission president, was up the story with him and 522 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,079 and and he ended up over in Samoa. 523 00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:05,279 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Michigi yeah yeah. 524 00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 6: So that's an interesting thing. He's a great athlete, but 525 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,200 I just haven't seen a lot of him playing football. 526 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,200 Owen Borg is a is a Corner Canyon kid who 527 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,240 put up pretty good numbers in high school. Uh and 528 00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:19,440 then Enick Watson who played down at American Leadership Academy 529 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,799 in Arizona, if I'm correct, and and so there's there's 530 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:25,039 a few of those guys that I'm familiar with, and 531 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,960 their journey is always interesting because if they do get 532 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,480 and they signed mid year, there's a specific program available 533 00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:33,799 to them to get them back into shape. And you 534 00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:36,519 don't expect guys like that to contribute in their first year, 535 00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:39,400 but it's possible. But they they grind, you know, they 536 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,799 put put it in the work and then give themselves 537 00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:43,559 an opportunity down the road to play. 538 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: Darnell Dixon Double D the Daily Heraldon Daily Heraldi talked 539 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,559 to some Cougar football, some Cougar football recruiting here on 540 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:57,720 your Utah ESPN radio network. As far as the uh 541 00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:02,599 the transfer portal, uh I guess acquisitions. Which of these 542 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,079 players do you feel is going to be most impactful 543 00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:07,160 in twenty twenty six and why. 544 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 6: I would look at Walker Lyons the tight end from 545 00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:15,759 USC because BYU does have a need there with Ryan 546 00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:20,039 graduating and probably getting a chance at the NFL. Carson Ryan, 547 00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:23,240 who was rated as one of the top tight ends 548 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,920 in the country, I mean the top for into Pro 549 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,880 Football Focus as I was reading today, And so also 550 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,640 Roger Saliapogo. I've seen him play. He was an ORMI 551 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,839 kid went to Oregon, so I got some playmakers. And 552 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,000 I think even b Way's coaches Aaron Rodgers day was 553 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,480 talking about how the tight end position it had some 554 00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:45,960 issues in the past several years, but they really like 555 00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:49,319 what happened was last year with Carson Ryan, so they 556 00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:51,720 want to keep that going and make the tight end 557 00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:55,240 a really big weapon in the offense. And those are 558 00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:57,279 two guys that I think that can make an impact 559 00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:00,480 there because they are big and strong and playing and 560 00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:01,240 you want to. 561 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:01,519 Speaker 2: Have that. 562 00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:08,319 Speaker 3: Walker Lions tight end? Is it back at Brigham Darnol? 563 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,480 I know you've been a vocal criticizer of the lack 564 00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:16,559 of tight end utilization. Are you Are you a believer 565 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,359 now that a rod has got the tight end owed 566 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:22,440 with Carson Ryan by the highest rated PFF tight ending 567 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,759 college football and over six hundred yards of receiving, three 568 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:28,720 touchdowns and forty five receptions. 569 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they've they've made some good strides there. 570 00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:36,839 You know, some of it depends sometimes on who your 571 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,559 quarterback feels comfortable with. Some it depends on what you're 572 00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:42,680 running games like. I think they had a good mixture 573 00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:45,319 last year, having a great running game that utilized the 574 00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:48,359 tight end and then made him a very effective receiver. 575 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,920 I think that the way they used Carson Ryan was 576 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,279 terrific and he made some big plays for them, and 577 00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:57,920 also that puts him in a great position coming up 578 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,440 with his professional opportunities. So I think the combination of 579 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,160 all of that kind of led them to maybe rediscover 580 00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:10,119 that tight end spot. And I think we'll continue to 581 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,920 see that activity from that spot as we get into 582 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,680 the season with Walker Lyons and Rogers Talapaga and then 583 00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:21,039 the guys coming back. I think Noah Moyaki has some 584 00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:25,920 good ability over there. Kean Reid has been a real 585 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,079 big blocker for them. He might get a little bit 586 00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:30,480 of action. So yeah, they've they've done some good things 587 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,440 there and put themselves in a position to make that 588 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:36,880 spot really effective against their opponents. 589 00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 3: Your reaction, Now we have it. We've got a roster, right. 590 00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:42,839 It seems like the rosters settled. There may be an 591 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,200 addition or subtraction along the way, but it's probably it's 592 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,039 probably is what it is. B WA also solidified their 593 00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:53,680 coaching staff. You got Lewis Clark as your qrnerbacks coach 594 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,519 to Mario Warren safety's coach, passing game coordinator. On the 595 00:31:56,519 --> 00:31:59,519 defense side, kell the thing inside linebackers, you have Sody 596 00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:03,319 Puet defensive line Chad k caahahah as the outside edge 597 00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:06,720 and outside linebackers coach. Justin Enna moves over to special 598 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,839 teams coordinator full time, not taking a position. Uh and uh. 599 00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:12,799 And then you have the offense side of the ball. 600 00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:16,880 That's pretty much retained uh in its entirety. But they 601 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,039 did acquire Tyler Hughes, a individual as a as an 602 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:26,119 assistant quarterbacks coach, an individual that's coached at Alabama in 603 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,440 the NFL with the new Patriots. He's been at Ohio 604 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,680 State with her and Meyer. Pretty robust resume. He was 605 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,160 a head coach at Snow College for for a time 606 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,599 and an offense coordinator for a time at Snow College. 607 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: She comes from the state of Utah. How would you 608 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,720 evaluate the how would. 609 00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:44,599 Speaker 3: You grade out the the coaching staff right now? With 610 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,799 everything that's occurred, you lost Jay Hill and Gennaro, but 611 00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:50,079 you gained some some suitable replacements. 612 00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 6: It looks like, Yeah, I'm going to be interested and 613 00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:56,920 really paying close attention to how Kellivipinger runs this defense 614 00:32:57,359 --> 00:32:59,599 if it's if it's any different than Jay Hill, you 615 00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:03,279 know what his personality quirts that things that he likes 616 00:33:03,319 --> 00:33:07,319 to do. Another couple of things that occurred to me though, 617 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:10,680 while going through all this, going back to two thousand 618 00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:13,400 during the pandemic, I was trying to look for some 619 00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:15,680 topics to kind of write about during that time, and 620 00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:18,799 I saw, I believe it was Nebraska. It was letting 621 00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:20,880 go of a lot of their not a lot, but 622 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,119 some of their employees in the athletic department. And so 623 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,599 I started looking at how many employees do schools have? 624 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,440 And at that point, if I recalled I don't know 625 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,319 if I called my numbers correctly, but it seems like 626 00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:40,720 BYU was around maybe two hundred or so, and other 627 00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:44,599 schools like Alabama Nebraska were three even four hundred employees 628 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,640 in their athletic department and that was two thousand. So 629 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,400 fast forward six years. By using the Big twelve, they're 630 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,720 starting to increase the number of staff and coaches, especially 631 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,880 in the football program. And I think one thing that's 632 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,000 you and I Ben, I've talked about this a lot. 633 00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:06,200 How BYU is very serious about stewardship of making sure 634 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,159 they're doing that the right way and not getting over 635 00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,199 their skis, so to speak, Like a lot of schools 636 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,800 are what do we see today Florida States almost five 637 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,400 hundred million dollars in debt in their athletic department. B 638 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,199 WHYU is not doing that. They're taking their time, They're 639 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:23,280 making sure they can afford whatever changes they're making. It's 640 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,239 in the budget projecting what they need. And so that's 641 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,480 a couple of things that occur to me, is that 642 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:33,079 BYU is increasing the number of staff. And it used 643 00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:34,719 to being you go, well, we got the head coach, 644 00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:38,519 the coordinators, so the position coaches, a couple of gas 645 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,079 and the wait, guys, that's kind of what it was 646 00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:44,239 for a long time. And now you've got performance coaches, 647 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:49,280 and you've got nutritionists, and you've got more analysis that 648 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,440 are going on, more analysts that are stepping up and 649 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:56,119 doing things. So BYU is approaching and I've asked BYU 650 00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,440 to give me the numbers. We'll see if they help out. 651 00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:00,840 But trying to figure out how much by has grown 652 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,800 in that area, especially in football, and so because they've 653 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,519 done it the right way and they're still operating their 654 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,480 athletic department to make money and and they're not like 655 00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:13,320 these other programs who spend it and then look at 656 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,400 the bottom line later and goop, looks like we spent 657 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,760 too much. That's not BYU. And I think they've done 658 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,840 a great job of incorporating these new positions and the 659 00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:26,239 chief of staff and and the performance coaches and the 660 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,440 mental strength situations there. So that's what occurs to me. 661 00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:32,440 They look at that, you know, it's well, we'll find 662 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,519 out if these are good coaches. They're going to have 663 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,000 a lot of responsibility to step in and do things 664 00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:40,840 the way that Kelly wants on defense because there's so 665 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,440 many changes on that side of the ball, and we'll 666 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,960 see what effect that has on the team. But like 667 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,599 I said, the main thing that occurs to me is 668 00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:50,000 that BYU's doing this the right way and building their 669 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,320 football program. This has been a huge part of it 670 00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:54,199 in the staff and the coaches. 671 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, great points here with with Darnelle Dicks in the 672 00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:05,079 daily hirality and talkings some BYU football recruiting as well 673 00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:08,760 as coaching on the grid. Ard, Let's take a little 674 00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:14,480 let's pivot BYU basketball. What are you optimistic about? What 675 00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:16,880 are you concerned about regarding this bou basketball team. 676 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,119 Speaker 6: I'm optimistic because I believe that Kevin Young is a 677 00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:25,320 really good basketball coach, and I think it's taking some 678 00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:27,719 time for him to get the feel of this particular 679 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,039 team as opposed to what he had last year. I 680 00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:34,119 still feel like there's some maybe some changes that he's 681 00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,119 going to make, maybe not in the starting lineup, but 682 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,199 in the approach for things. I know they spent a 683 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,400 lot of time in the summer working on defense, specifically 684 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,239 three point defense, and whatever they're doing isn't working particularly 685 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,360 well in the Big Twelve. They're fifteenth right now out 686 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,360 of sixteen teams and opponent's field goal percentage from three, 687 00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:58,159 and they're eleventh in defense in the Big twelfth play 688 00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:01,599 at eighty one points a game. So I think according 689 00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:04,000 to what we when we're spoke speaking to Kevin earlier 690 00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:06,960 this week that he wanted to simplify things a little bit. 691 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,039 He said he watched every defensive possession that Byu has 692 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,679 had in the Big twelve this season, and he knows 693 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,719 what needs to be fixed, what needs to be changed, 694 00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:19,519 And I think the key area was he wanted to 695 00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:22,480 simplify things a little bit defensively, and he feels like, 696 00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:24,360 you know, he doesn't want to hear people talk about 697 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,920 how great there on the second half, because he wants 698 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,159 them to be good in the first half. And so 699 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,639 what he's looking at is a better defensive effort early 700 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,320 might put them in a position where they have a 701 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,920 better first half and we're consistent. 702 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,079 Speaker 5: Now. 703 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 6: They've had starts to good first halfs and part of 704 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,039 the first halfs have been good. They just haven't been 705 00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:43,719 able to sustain it, and they put themselves in a 706 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,559 hole against some of these better teams. So the optimism, 707 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,679 as I said, is Kevin Young's a good coach. I 708 00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:51,599 think we'll get this figured out. And the things maybe 709 00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:55,079 you know, I'm not so optimistic about is the continued 710 00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:58,519 struggles of anybody other than the Big three. And you know, 711 00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:00,760 Kavakata has had his struggles as well. Some of it's 712 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,159 been I think injuries, I think it slowed him down 713 00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:06,119 just a little bit. But but Cannard Davis has been 714 00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:10,440 a huge disappointment in my mind. Inconsistency as that that starter, 715 00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:13,400 the fifth guy, and then they've not had really anybody 716 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,519 come off the bench consistently either. They've had a few 717 00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:18,480 things here and there where players stepped up and shot 718 00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:21,280 well or done some good things, but not consistently. And 719 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,960 I think until they get that squared away, they're going 720 00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:26,599 to continue to kind of go up and down and 721 00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:29,119 struggle against elite teams in this league. 722 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the first half woes. 723 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,639 Speaker 3: Kay, why said I'm gonna throw up the next time 724 00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,400 someone mentions that were like the best second half team 725 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,440 at college basketball. We suck in the first half or 726 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,639 whatever he said. But can you diagnose and treat why 727 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,199 they they are? They're they're They're not horrible in the 728 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,079 first half. There's not good in the first half. 729 00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:52,679 Speaker 6: Well, like I said, it's been a consistency issue. If 730 00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:53,920 you look at that error, go in the game and 731 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,760 Arizona is the number one team in the country and 732 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,400 they're really good. I mean, I don't think there's any question. 733 00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:01,320 Maybe you could say you come to the number one 734 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,360 team in the country because u Coon has been destroying fools, 735 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,280 but Arizona's really good. And for thirteen minutes of that 736 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,880 first half, the YU was right with them. They were 737 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,760 nine lead changes and six ties in that first thirteen minutes. 738 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,960 They're playing right with them. And then the last seven 739 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,480 minutes they kind of unraveled and Arizona took off and 740 00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:23,320 got the lead and then not put them, you know, 741 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,920 behind the eight ball on the second half when they 742 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,599 made some strides to get back in it. So it's 743 00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:29,840 just a matter, I think, if consistent, and part of 744 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,639 that consistency is not being able to get the lift 745 00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:34,440 off the bench that they need. They got to arrest 746 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,000 the Big three occasionally, they got to arrest Cada occasionally, 747 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,719 and guys have to come in and not necessarily scored 748 00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:42,559 a lot of points but not hurt the team. And 749 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,039 you know, it's different for starters than it is for 750 00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:48,760 guys coming off the bench. You're expected to come in 751 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:54,719 and maintain the level that the starters have established. But 752 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,920 if things go badly and you can't make shots and 753 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,760 you're getting beat on defense and turning turnovers, then that's 754 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,800 what happened. Then they got to get the starters back 755 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,159 in and they're not as fresh at the end of 756 00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:08,760 the game and the rotations change. So that's what I 757 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,320 look at with this team in this first half is 758 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,960 as Kevin Young was saying, play better defense, be more consistent, 759 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,760 so that you go into halftime. If you're within a 760 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,559 few points, that's cool. You're leading by a few points, 761 00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:23,400 that's cool. That way, you don't feel so much the 762 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,000 pressure for someone. And you know, when you think about 763 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,159 how Byu has come back in the second half, it's 764 00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:30,559 been one of the big three just kind of going 765 00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:34,400 off like Richie did in the second half last week 766 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,320 and how Aj went off in the second half against 767 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,000 Yukon when they fell behind big They need the team 768 00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:42,159 to pull them out of that, not just one guy, 769 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,880 and that'll increase and help I think their consistency in 770 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:46,840 doing that more often. 771 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,199 Speaker 3: Great breakdown from double D, The Daily HERALDY and Darnell 772 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,079 Dixon Double D. Best way to support you? What you do, 773 00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:55,800 How you do it? Actually, I got one more question 774 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,880 for you as well, Hope. 775 00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:58,559 Speaker 2: Question by dad. What's the best way to support you? 776 00:40:58,559 --> 00:40:59,559 What you do, how you do it? Brother? 777 00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:03,519 Speaker 6: Uh Well, Harold extra dot com. You can follow me 778 00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:08,280 on AX if you like Darnell Wrights and and just 779 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,480 just enjoy this time of year. I was just typing 780 00:41:11,519 --> 00:41:15,000 in by U baseball and softball schedules the other day 781 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:17,079 and to our budget and realizing, man, it's going to 782 00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:20,000 get super busy once we get to We've got state 783 00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:23,719 tournaments coming out for high school basketball and wrestling and 784 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,039 all those sports, and it's it's a busy time of year. 785 00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:28,559 And just enjoy it. 786 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 2: Love it. 787 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,280 Speaker 3: Kyle Colls were taught on and he said, I think 788 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,199 there's going to be a surprise step up that hasn't 789 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,559 got a lot of minutes lately coming in. I'll let 790 00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:39,480 you guys figure out who I'm talking about, but someone 791 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,440 who's barely played this year is going to step up 792 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,519 coming down the stretch. 793 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 2: Who do you think it is? And why? Is it? 794 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 3: A Lexakostic, Tyler Morass, Dominique Diamante, or Jared McGregor. 795 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,639 Speaker 2: Those are my top four picks. 796 00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:52,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Tyler was in the rotation to start 797 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,000 the season, but he's falling out. I would think it 798 00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:59,559 might be Dominique just because he's willing to spend a 799 00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,960 lot of itergy playing defense and not worry about his 800 00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:05,159 offensive production. And if they need a lift on that perimeter, 801 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,719 or he's big enough we can guard forward even I 802 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,559 think that he's a guy that maybe could step up 803 00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:12,480 and do some of that and bring them some good 804 00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:16,639 energy kind of like Hadem Boop does coming off the bench. 805 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,960 Just the guy that's going to get after it on 806 00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:21,639 the boards and get after it defensively and if any 807 00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:23,400 offense comes his way. And by the way, he hit 808 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,239 his first three pointer of the year in that game 809 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,199 last week, so maybe Boop. But he's been getting some 810 00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:32,320 plain time, so I would say Diamandi, I think we 811 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,519 might see a little more of him if Kyle is 812 00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:35,280 being predictive. 813 00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:41,760 Speaker 3: The Prognosticators of Prognosticators, the college football college basketball seer 814 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:46,519 of Sears, Darnell Dixon gives you the prediction there you go. 815 00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:49,559 Appreciate you, Darnell, great stuff as always. 816 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 6: All right, Ben, thanks every week. 817 00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 2: I like that. We should do it. Darnell Dixon gives 818 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,400 you the prediction segment every week. I like it. 819 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 3: That's our segment. We're sticking to it. Download that interview 820 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,000 if have missed any of it. 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