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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone looks like I got a guest with me today.

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What's up? Thomas?

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Speaker 2: Hey, how are you man?

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Speaker 1: Doing good? Doing good? Just log down and waiting for

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everybody to uh catch up here? How's your how's your

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Sunday gone?

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Speaker 2: It's going fine?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: I realize that kind of a bought on Sunday. I

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kind of go into repose, you know, So don't take

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a person.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, no problem. Are we watching a movie tonight?

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Speaker 2: I'll see what feel depending on how long this goes.

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How does that? I don't mean to be flaky, but.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay, yeah, no problem.

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Speaker 2: Level's gonna dirty, but we'll go as long as you

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watch on the stream.

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Speaker 1: Sure, okay, cool. So I wanted to have you on

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today to this whole occupation regime that we've been that

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we've been suffering. There's a lot of people who, once

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they discover, you know, things like the JQ and things

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like that, they they believe that everyone that the world

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is basically fallen to it and that it controls everyone,

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and to the point where they don't think that an

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independent like country, a country could actually have a Jewish

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population and organized Jewish population and not be controlled by them.

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So I guess you know, first, this came up, this

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just a whole Russia thing yesterday because apparently Putin is

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Putin has been called habadnik how without even addressing the.

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Speaker 3: Russian thing, because I think it's stupid the idea that

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a country cannot have an organized Jewish population and still

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be a country that isn't run by them.

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Speaker 1: How does that in your head? How does that work? Well?

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Speaker 2: The problem is that lay people. I don't like that terminology,

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but I can't think of a better way to characterize it.

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They don't understand politics, and they don't understand historical processes,

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and they don't understand the anthropological aspects of these things.

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It's like these guys who you know what. I don't

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know to be too hard on Alex Jones, because I

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think in some ways he does good things. And I'd

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rather I've got to wonder to convincing normies of anything.

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But I'd way rather people can consume that kind of

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stuff than say, like Fox News. But even like a

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bunch of Alex Jones fanboys, they'll claim stuff like the

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Cold War or with some sort of allegerate main. I mean,

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that's just not how a human society at scale worse,

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and that's not how humans interface with technology. You know,

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you don't you know, you know, you don't kill off

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one hundreds of thousands of people, like pretending to wage

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proxy wars against the Soviet Union, and you don't. You

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don't devise weapons platforms that cost billions and billions of

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dollars at the end of the day, that deploy to

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orbital space and can wipe out entire cities so that

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you can pretend that you're fighting some sort of ideological

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conflict to fool people. I mean, if you think that,

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you're a complete idiot. But I mean more people think

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that way than you might suspect, because the variables are

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too complex, or they're too nuanced, or there's an intuition

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required to kind of perceive these things that's just beyond them.

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So their view is that the world's organized like their

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workplace or something, where intercende rivalries don't compromise the core

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mission of the firm or something, and ordinary people just

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subject to these designs of more powerful people. It's like

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a symbolance character the way things really are. And I

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think when people think about desionism, their idea such that

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they can perceive it at all, is that Jews are

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bad guys or they're like rich guys who are some

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sort of machiavellian global elite who just control everything like

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some sort of like some sort of majority shareholder population

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and a big company, you know. And like I said,

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it's it's a case of people not understanding of human

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population is interact and how conceptual horizons of respective populations collide,

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and how even people who don't necessarily have personal enmity

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towards one another or some sort of horrible cultural clash,

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and how they live among each other. Sometimes the existence

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of one has a deleterious effect on the way of life,

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but that they're tofore dominant culture and that leads to violence.

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I mean, honestly, there's that aspect in post Soviet Russia

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between Slavs and Jews. I don't think those Slavs hate

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Jews or vice versa. I think they look down on

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each other, okay, but they don't look at each other

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the way, you know, like white folks and blacks did

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during like the worst days that like the sixties and

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early nineties, And they don't look at each other the

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way like Palestinians and Israeli's new You know, people who

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think that like politics has to do with like people

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you personally don't like, Like that has nothing to do

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with it either, you know. But there's the same people

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too think that, like the grand question is, like there's

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too many Mexicans and I don't want to live by

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black people, like neither one of which is a political problem.

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There's political of the cases of both of those things,

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but those are social problems.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: This is exactly why you're an idiot if you pretend that,

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like people voting somehow dictates the course of actual event

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to the disposition of elites, Like even if there was

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some ethical characteristic to mass enfranchisement, which there isn't, right,

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even if there was, these people can't understand the subject matter,

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So what it would be like it'd be like consulting

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people who can't do math on how to like design

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and build a bridge that will be able to bear

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a load or something.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's that kind of stuff. And people, particularly people born

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after the Cold War. I'm not transfing young people at all.

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I don't do that, and I think young people with

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scale actually have a lot of insights older people don't.

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But I think people unless they unless they have been

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like insinuating to the culture, or they're kind of part

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of the minority. It's a growing minority, but it's still

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the minority of people who like travel a lot and

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like spend time in the oldest block. They don't understand

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the Russians, Like they just don't. They think like Russia

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is like the EU, but they're just kind of different.

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Or they got this idea that Russians are these kinds

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of malicious, bad guys, but they don't understand that there's

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a really tragic and really dysfunctional relationship between the Jews

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and the majority there. You know, like sold the needs

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and wrote an entire book on that. This characterized the

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Soviet Union for seven years. They literally went to war

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with Israel, you know, the a catalyzing moment. One of

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the major plane hijackings, one of the few were successful.

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Direct action team was able to liberate the aircraft without

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killing all the hostages. It was an early success at

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GSG nine. They were like the Bundesferer like counter terrorism unit.

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It was not surprising that the crowds did this well. Okay,

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but flight Leuftan's a flight one eighty one. It was

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hijacked by the Popular Front Floration of Palestine in general command.

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They're the same guy as he blew up the discotheque

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in West Berlin. But interestingly, and people would know this,

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it was like three men and a woman who were

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the hijacked team. And that was the first time anybody

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ever wore like a shade rivera visage on their shirt,

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like the PFLP did that because they were saying that, like,

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you know, Palestine's the front line of the struggle against

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you know, capitalism, you know, and like the Jews of

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these are oppress or standard bearers of of you know, America,

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you know. And uh, incidentally, that's why guys like Horst

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Mahler and other like national Socialist partisans, you know, we're

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involved with like the Royth Army for action and things.

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But it was understood during the Cold War, like the

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mortal enemies of Israel are the East Block. Okay, I

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mean this one without saying everybody understood that there, you know, basically,

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like the main enemy of Jewry and political terms is Russia. Okay,

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it was without saying, you know, and that that didn't

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go away after the Cold War and the Ukraine War.

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I the enemies of the Russian Federation, which show me

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the bit to do that. Anyway, Like NATO was looking

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for another make Ork deployment, but it was mainly returned

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the serve because the Russian Federation deployed to Syria and

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and routed the Israelis. You know, Russia's allied with his Blah.

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They were allied with a sad they sold out a

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sod that the Russians do. But I don't really I

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don't really understand how unless you're a complete idiot, like

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you couldn't notice that, you know, and so to you

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like Putin was just kidding when the parts of the

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Russian Federation deployed, you know, basically to provide combined arms

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or Hesblah and the Syrian Arab army against the IDEF

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and their allies. And then this guy who's like randomly

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this Jewish design is somehow gets installed in Ukraine and

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then suddenly there's like this massive escalation. That's just a coincidence.

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But like Putin actually loves Israel and their friends. I mean,

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I that's so stupid. I'm not gonna entertain it, Okay,

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I mean it's I don't argue with people like that.

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The semons. Don't argue with people who tell me that

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like the when landing was fake or that like nine

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to elevee was fake. I mean, you're you're I mean

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you're you're you're you're mentally retarded if you think that way.

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But yeah, nad, I mean that's why. But the same

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reason people, I mean, I don't really try my aps

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say because like generally I don't respect them, Like the

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only ops I respected in my life, like we're all

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dead by now, like the ones that it's just now,

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like just don't cut it. But like these internet I get,

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I get like hate ship all the time and like

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generally don't read it, but occasionally they do and like, uh,

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I think I don't know exactly what they were talking about.

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And I'm not trying to personalize this, but like it's

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it's illustrated. Like uh, it's like Artie Chick. I don't

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want to Hyde Park. She's like the Jewish broad. I mean,

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she she's cool. She's a friend of mine, you know,

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like sometimes we go off for drinks or something, and

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I'm you know, uh, she knows some of the same

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people that do we reachate Chicago, but you know, she

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like pulled up some selfies with me, which is fine.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I like it when girls want to take photos of

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me and people are like, you're a phony because you

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like don't hate Jews. I'm like, well, why would I

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hate Jews? They around like hating people, Like what what

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does that even mean?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: Like I I walk around, I'm like, it's hack mode,

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and I'm like, this person's my enemy, and political terms,

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I'm gonna go either house or like murder them, Like, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean what, well, it also it's you becoming them. I mean,

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they have a genuine hatred of people who they consider

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to be their enemies.

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Speaker 2: And it's also insane. I mean, for the record, this

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chicks like anti Zionist. That's only way in common, you know,

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but like it's I mean, obviously okay, otherwise why would

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she associate with me? But but the point is, like,

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you know, it's that you feel like a rational person.

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I mean, sitting around hating people's unmanly anyway, It's not

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that's not what a rational men do. It's unerryan, it's unchristian.

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But it's also now politics are about, you know, I mean,

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God forbid, uh, God forbid if some sort of early

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nineties or like nineteen sixty eight situation jumped off here

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and like black folks were gutting for me for the

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color of my skin. I would not hesitate to like

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walk and low and throw shots they have them to

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defend myself. That doesn't mean like I hate the black guys.

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I know, like again, like why why wasn't one thing

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going to do with the other? You know, does that

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mean that your country goes to war, You're only gonna

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answer the call if like you personally hate the people

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down range of your field of fire. That's only like

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little girls think about stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. It also takes away from the historic

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respect of one's enemy.

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Speaker 2: That too, Yeah yeah, well yeah, it's not personal. I mean,

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I get h I mean, it's for better or worse.

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The natural state of the of this world is conflict.

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Conflicts endemic. I mean, like I'm like saying, I mean,

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general warfare at scale is rare, but conflict is endemic.

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And I mean that's it's literally authored into every aspect

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of sociological existence. And it wouldn't make any sense to

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be upset about that. I mean, the kinds of people

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who can't accept reality are these kinds of ridiculous. You know, uh,

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progressive types you thankfully are mostly gonna die off with

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the elder generation. But they're the only people who think

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it's incorrect that the world is this way, and we've

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got social engineer that away. You know, you're you're claim

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to be right winging, but your whobole kink is like

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informs my politics, is like I just hate people like this,

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you know, like I said, that's not the way, that's

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not the way. That's unmanly and aside from the fact

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it's got nothing to do with existential realities.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's a question, and I'll as somebody who maybe

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may be Catholic but also has a pretty good education

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in Calvinist theology. So hate is always irrational. God made

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a mistake by providing that particular emotion. God provided everything,

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and some things are a sin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's like saying that, like God approves of

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rape because like men rape women at war. You know,

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like that's not you know what I'm saying Christianity. If

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that's the way you think about it. Yeah, if there

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was no sin, there'd be like no point to human

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what if and there, there'll also be no piety and

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So one of the things I wanted to say

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about Russia was I have a friend he's been on

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the show a couple of times, Ferris Modad. He's he's

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from Lebanon originally, he lives in Britain, in England now.

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And something he said about Putin was Putin can accept

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the fact that there are people in his country that

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are talking about communism. People can accept the Putin can

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accept the fact that there are people in his country

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even talking about fascism, but Putin cannot accept that there

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is anyone promoting liberalism in his country. He goes when Putin,

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when people start to promote liberalism, which is probably the

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most derascinating and chaos inducing system, he has to put

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that person down.

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Speaker 2: He has to be yeah, what's also people don't understand,

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like the Russians are anti high Nazi, so they must

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like Zionism or like liberals. It's like, do you realize

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these people lost one in six of their population in

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four years, so twenty five million of them went down

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fighting the German Reich, and they supposed to be like, yeah,

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we we love Nazism. It's like you fucking retarded. I

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mean like what, like how else? Why?

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Speaker 3: Why? Why?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 2: Why the actual fuck would the Russians like national socialism

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or think they're like that's cool, like that's there. It

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makes perfect sense the Ivans to hold out the German

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Reich as they're like ultimate like tolluric evil. That makes

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perfect sense, Like what else would they how else do

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they conceptualize it? You know, but it's it's not it's

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not that. It's not there Russians who built Holocaust music.

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You knows, it's not that Russians do. When the Russians

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conquered the the Eastern occupation zone, they encouraged the natural

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Volkes Army to preserve the traditions of the Wehrmacht. They said,

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we're not We're not. We're not gonna build them a

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more old jewelry. We we lost twenty million people fighting

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the fascists. We're the victims of fascism. You know, they

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went to war with Israel. You know, you can't pull

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that card that, you know, stupid on purpose card that

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because the Russians don't they don't like the German Reich

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and they don't appreciate it when he's like confused white

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in words in Ukraine like pretend that they're Nazis by

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like fighting for greater Judea. You know, the fact that

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the Russians don't appreciate that doesn't like make them a

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bunch of like anti fascist liberals. But again, I mean,

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some people are too stupid to be alive, and the

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people propose those things constitute that class.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think people see that Putin would go

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out of his way to protect the Jewish population in

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his country, which is also something that Asad did, which

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is also which is also something that Iran does right now.

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So I guess if you do that to some people,

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that means that you have to you're bowing down to

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them they somehow control you. It just doesn't make it

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doesn't make any sense. It only makes sense if you've

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bought into these people can control or in control of everything.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's like I said, that's why, that's why most

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most Normanies like shouldn't try and understand these things, because

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apparently they're not capable. I also think that most people, like,

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for better or worse, I kind of a weird upbring

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because again, you know, like my mom was a rich

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kid from La. My dad was like this third port

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Oki who wounded up becoming very successful. But I'm kind

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of like as a red Niggish person who grew up

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in Chicago, and specifically I grew up in like a

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very Jewish hood. Okay, I was like around these people

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my whole life. I'm like still around them. Like that

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doesn't mean I have like any grand insight. But when

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there's guys from like the middle of nowhere or from

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like mall of America geography and nowhere places, they developed

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this kind of like weird idea of like Jews that's

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like no basis in reality.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: This goes for like the megatures retards who think Jews

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are like these like Viking super rians who like love

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democracy or whatever. And it goes to these guys who

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think that they're like these like super being bad guys

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control everything, like they don't understand them as a people.

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I think that I do. I think frankly, that's part

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of it, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I was talking to doctor Johnson the other day,

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Matthew R. F Al Johnson and him just like I

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mean that part of Jersey he grew up in was

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Jewish and Italian same Viole. Yeah, yeah, and he and

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he says, he says this, He goes, when I'm talking

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about jewelry, I'm not talking about my dentist. I'm not

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talking about I'm talking about an organize. I'm talking about

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an organization, A an inclination. A. Yeah, he goes something

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that something that can't just be laid off on one person.

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It's something you know, and you know we're covering. You know,

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so wrote wrote the book on this and gave us

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a whole history of one country and how they dealt

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with it, and we're covering this. And even even Solian

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shows that early in the book, in the Scheeddel system,

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that it was five percent of the population of that

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system that had any power, any wealth, anything, and they

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were just as apt to destroy or oppress their own

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people as they were anyone else.

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Speaker 2: People also don't understand that. I mean they don't understand.

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I mean, they don't understand the political I mean, you're

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talking about impersonal forces of a historical nature at literally

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global scale. You know, It's just it's just it'd be

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like it'd be like saying it'd be like it'd be

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like judging a variable in economics or like uh or

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like a scale economic actor by how this guy you

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know spends his money and invests like it's not that's

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not what we're talking about, you know, And it's maybe

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it's also the reason why it fails in these like

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American Renaissance types act like Asians or some super race.

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They don't commit crimes. It's like, you know, your enemy

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in political terms is your enemy because him asserting his

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own politics constituents or repudiation of your way of life.

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Like maybe this population are a bunch of great guys

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and they're saintly or maybe they're like reprobate savages and criminals.

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It doesn't matter because that's not how we judge politics.

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I don't want to be ruled by the Chinese because

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they don't go out and steal cars.

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Speaker 4: You know that.

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Speaker 2: And if you think about it that way again, you're

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you're you're a bourgeois simpleton, you know. Well, I mean

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it's guys or maybe maybe or maybe they're terrible people. Generally,

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it doesn't matter because Jewish politics consumes are repudiation of

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my way of life, whether the kind of guys I

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don't want to have over for cocktails or to talk

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about women in the NFL or whether they're like guys

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who are like scumbags, and I can't stand the sight

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of that's totally irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: The so you can look at things like this. I

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love reading the Jerusalem Post because they basically will tell you.

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It's almost like it's like, is that old joke about

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you see a headline or you read something in a

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Jewish periodical. It's like, okay, is this the Daily Forward

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or the Daily Stormer? I can't tell, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So they had this article and shout out to the

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guys on the Third Rail podcast for pointing this out.

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It's from two weeks ago. It says, if New York

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falls to country follows, is the future of American Jewry

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at risk. And they're talking to this rabbi, doctor Hank Scheimkoff,

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and this is what he says. Okay, he says, this

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is the way they describe him. Shimkoff has worked on

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over seven hundred political campaigns in fourteen countries, in four continents,

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and in forty four US states. Some names among his

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previous clientele Bill Clinton, Michael Bloomberg, Mexican President Leonel Fernandez.

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People read that and it's obvious that there is organized jewelry.

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If this guy is on four continents promoting elections, he's

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I guarantee you he's not promoting elections that are not

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in his best interest or or whoever.

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Speaker 2: He'sn't a piece that says this guy they're talking about

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he's running from here in New York. You sound like

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pussy liberal. Uh. You know, if you find this guy scary,

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you're either a demented old woman or you're some crazy

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Zionist who like when the wind blows you claim you're

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about to be pogrammed. So I mean, like, the fact

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is these people are slipping because they hold up to

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remember when they didn't talk that way. There's actually like

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something slick about their propaganda. You know, like in nineteen

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eighty five, if you'd read the j Post, it'd be like,

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you know, for example, he'd be saying like, you know,

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the Soviet Union brutalizes, you know, a nonconforming except where

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they go look at what they're doing in Afghanistan. You know,

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Soviet jewelry loves freedom and wants wants to live like Americans,

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and the Stalinist depressors are are abusing them. Now, I

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mean Obviously a narrative like that is laden with propaganda too,

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but it's like actually credible in a certain way, like

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uh claiming some like claiming some cornball like Berkeley type

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guy who claims to be Maslam but like goes to

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like his gay friend's weddings and shit, he's like he's

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gonna po gram us. It's like he look like a

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fucking idiot, you know. I mean it's like and then yeah,

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like and then it'll be like this guy like ry

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By like Shicky like fuck bock. It's like he owns

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you know, like a uh he owns like a gay

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pornography label, and like he's involved in human trafficking and

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you know he's on the staff of like freedom loving

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blad musawood Ski and like this Italian mafia boss and

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like he was a friend of Jeffrey Epstein. And then

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like when people like on the internet like start dropping

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con it's like, you know, this guy sounds like a

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super villain or something. You know, they like banish all

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comments and stuff. It's like, man, look are you guys?

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You guys are like something out of Austin Powers or something. Man,

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It's like what happened to you? Did y'all like bottomize

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yourselves or something like. I mean, that's kind of stilly rants.

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Speaker 1: And you can tell and you can tell how bad

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off they have it where they still have to go

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to the Russia evil well, and then they go then

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they go to like Iran and Syria and Asad Syria

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in places like that, which anyone who like can do

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a search on Google can find out that there are

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huge Jewish communities there have been for thousands, you know,

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for a thousand years, and they're protected by the government.

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And here's another here's another thing. If you if you

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say that there are people you know who like just

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found out about the JQ a month ago, who will

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be like, well, why are they protecting Jews? Would why

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would Vladimir Putin care about Russian Jews being in danger anywhere?

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He should want to kill them? All right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like this like Retardo politics. It's like

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Retardo nonpolitics. What's also too, I mean, the problem is

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Zion is I mean, and I'm not gonna sit here.

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I mean, obviously I don't think Israel was ever like

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anything but a totally dysfunctional political system, but it did

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actually used to be a multi party system before Rabine

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was assassinated, and uh, you know, they the policy in

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terms of direct administration of conquered territories, and obviously the

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founding action of Israel was a mass ethnic cleansing operation.

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And you can't like erase that. But moving forward, you

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can't have a leeku in one party state that's like

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this openly racial state that uh regularly assaults in to

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this kind of mass concentration camp that is Gaza, to

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quite literally thin the ranks that people've identified to the

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racial enemies. You can't do that then turn around and

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talk about how like, well, we're an especially victimized population

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because racists don't like us. Like that just doesn't work,

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you know, even a simpleton. And that's one of the

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reasons why, like, world opinion is totally shifted. I mean,

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part of it's the Cold War ending and the wh

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paradigm ending. But world opinion doesn't matter. Whether that's right

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or not, it isn't important. You know, you can't you

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00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,160
can't make yourself a pariah and then appeal to like

472
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,519
Neuremberg morality to say no, I'm not a pariah, I'm

473
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:50,880
a victim. That doesn't work. That's what I'm always saying,

474
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,240
it's like late Soviet and nature, you know, both to

475
00:29:54,319 --> 00:29:56,359
propaganda from the Partment of State as well as out

476
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,640
of the Tel Aviv. It's like, these people don't understand.

477
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,839
There's got to be context, you know, otherwise it doesn't

478
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,839
serve a purpose. Otherwise it's your it's self defeating. It's

479
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,799
worse than neutral, it's self defeating.

480
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: Yes's it really is with how people can access so

481
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,680
much information and then they can talk in public now

482
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:24,400
through social media and different platforms. I can start a

483
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,920
podcast and everything. It really just goes to show you

484
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,279
how people don't understand politics. Like if you were to say,

485
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:34,720
if you were to tell people, ask people the question, okay,

486
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:38,640
so basically the Vietnam War was a proxy war with

487
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:45,519
World Communism and the United States, and okay, okay, so

488
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,119
well why was the United States? You know, why was

489
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,119
your grain trade between the United States and the Soviet

490
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,720
Union during the Cold War. They can't they can't wrap

491
00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:57,880
their head around that. You can't wrap your head around

492
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,200
how you can have your you can try with like

493
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,319
your biggest enemy on the planet and.

494
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: That, well, they don't understand, they don't understand globalism. But

495
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,839
I realized that too, even people who otherwise I think

496
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:14,599
I started really realizing this, you know, and like I

497
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,640
rejoined the world and stuff, and you know, October twenty

498
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,039
twenty before that, you know, it has been a few

499
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:25,000
years or any since I got my life together and stuff.

500
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:26,799
But like when I was on probation and stuff, I

501
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,920
was still writing. But I was basically just say, going

502
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,039
to Washington Library and Unston Library and like writing stuff

503
00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:37,039
and going on on research. And there was like two

504
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,519
or three guys who I'd run into, like around the city,

505
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,920
who I'd talked to about these things. But I didn't

506
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,000
really realize the depth of people's ignorance. So I remember,

507
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:52,960
I write, when I got online again, I I was

508
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,559
trying to explain to this guy kind of my interpretation

509
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,680
and the Great Depression, and I realized he was talking

510
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:05,440
about national states, which is something you probably picked him

511
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,480
in college. He's like talking about the world like it

512
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:10,519
was the year nineteen thirty and like that there are

513
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,279
no more states, you know, there's there's something nominally called

514
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:17,079
the United States of America, where like power is concentrated

515
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:20,440
periodically has cracked downs on like the free flow of

516
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,200
persons and commerce across the borders what you're seeing now.

517
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,839
But this idea that there's like these discrete, self contained

518
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,319
loci of power that are essentially insular from one another,

519
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,839
it's like that that honestly hasn't existed since nineteen eighteen.

520
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,279
This is a fiction, you know, it's a fiction, and

521
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:41,720
it's I'm not even saying it's like ledgered nain By Hoorrible.

522
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:45,680
People like people invoke these concepts more or less to

523
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:51,160
kind of conceptualize the world, because otherwise we're talking in

524
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:57,480
abstraction and there's not like a common conceptual vocabulary. I mean, like, yeah,

525
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:00,559
there's a place called France, there's a place called England,

526
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:04,920
there's a place called Japan. But those places have been

527
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,839
called that for thousands of years. You know, this idea

528
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:13,279
of like Westphalian style states that's not some permanent thing.

529
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:23,720
And essentially the three hundred years subsequent were like moves

530
00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:31,359
towards you know, a limited modality of globalism, which is

531
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,119
the superpower era, which is why World War two happened.

532
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:39,400
The Cold War was the grand struggle between two globalisms.

533
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,680
Now there is one globalism, Like where are these other

534
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:45,440
forms of government? Don't say like North Korea with just

535
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,440
some weird garrison state because unfortunately for them, they border

536
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:51,160
Russia and China. And I'm talking about some like random

537
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:53,799
kingdom of like one hundred and fifty thousand people. I'm

538
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:58,240
talking about like real, at scale political organization. There's only

539
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:02,519
one form of government. They's under the Department of States. Illiterate,

540
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,000
there's not democracy and not democracy. What's the not democracy?

541
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,000
Is there is? There is there an Eastern block? I

542
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:13,559
thought it went away. I seem to remember watching the

543
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:18,199
Berlin wallfall when I was a kid. What's the not democracy?

544
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,559
But I mean this cuts to the whole the literacy.

545
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,760
I mean, I mean Israel is a particularly extreme case

546
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,159
because they're very immus. There's this weird outlier like in

547
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,880
terms of their political values and their security situation within

548
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,840
the rationality of those values. But there's not there's not

549
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,119
like dozens of forms of governments. You know, there's only one.

550
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:48,920
It doesn't make sense to talk otherwise. But the State

551
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:56,679
Department Israel, this entire constellation of the dominant globalist fiction

552
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,280
they speak because if it's nineteen eighty because they're illiterate

553
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,280
and they they don't know how to characterize the world anymore.

554
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,440
I mean, part of that is problematic because of post

555
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:10,440
holes in their narrated But even aside from that, there's

556
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,039
like a monumental of literacy and conceptual terms there.

557
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: So doctor Johnson and I are reading two hundred years together.

558
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:21,719
We're sixty one episodes.

559
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:21,639
Speaker 3: In on that.

560
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: Oh well that's a lot.

561
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: We're not We're not even halfway done. We're just getting

562
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:27,119
the halfway on the book.

563
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: I've forgotten that.

564
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 1: Yeah's you know, no problem. And you know, like Carl

565
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,599
Doll and I just did an episode on uh yeah,

566
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,079
my front. Yeah, he's a good guy. And we just

567
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:43,719
did an episode on Kadriannu and the Iron Guard, and

568
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:49,559
you know how Accusa was such a inspiration on them

569
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,360
because of his talk of how jewelry was taking over Romania.

570
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,280
What is the benefit, like, what do you see as

571
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:02,280
the benefit of talking about that now, talking about jewry historically?

572
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:09,000
How zog Now, what's the benefit of doing I mean,

573
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:11,280
and I mean I could take arrows on this one

574
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,320
from you if you want to play is there what

575
00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:16,199
is the benefit of me doing all of this and

576
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,119
talking about.

577
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 2: All of this because you're not gonna be able to

578
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,079
nobody's gonna make it able to make sense of the

579
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:27,199
current political and sociological paradigm. Lets they understand these things.

580
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:32,400
And and let's you understand the Second World War and

581
00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:35,960
that the variables that led to it. You're not gonna

582
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,519
understand the twentieth century. If you understand the twentieth century,

583
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:42,840
you don't understand today. And everything that happens today is

584
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:52,360
derivative at precedent, and particularly the these actors in the

585
00:36:52,480 --> 00:37:01,440
Islamic world, the Russian Federation, Israel, you know, uh, the

586
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:05,079
Jews as a people, like globally, the globally asked for

587
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:10,000
the disposition of America, which is not like the legacy

588
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:13,000
government of George Washington or something. It's the legacy government

589
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:18,119
of the New Deal regime. That's the only conceptualize these things.

590
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,880
And plus two, like you know, you know Schumpeter and

591
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:23,039
when you I mean Schumpeter was actually like a pure

592
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:25,039
political economists in a lot of ways, anything we can

593
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:28,320
talk about like a pure economics and the way we

594
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,880
can talk about like neoliberal economics, we're talking about Shumpter.

595
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,760
But uh, you know how we talk about condetry of

596
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:41,760
waves like in economics. Okay, maybe if I'm portunying that pronunciation,

597
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:48,400
but basically, in his book Business cycles like Cavials is

598
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,119
also on the democracy is kind of his most accessible book,

599
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,320
and that was his book that sold the best. It's

600
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,000
the most important. What was business cycles, which one of

601
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,920
other things is like a huge repudiation to teens. But

602
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:02,159
it's very very damn it's two volumes. It's very difficult,

603
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,840
but it's in my opinion, it's a seminal statement on

604
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,440
Pluto economy like the last like five years. Probably okay,

605
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:16,679
But his whole point was, look, you can't everybody else

606
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,360
it's thrown with keeams that entire paradigm. You can't look

607
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,960
at like a thirty year increment of macroeconomic activity and

608
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,599
scaled actors they're in. You've got to look at this

609
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:34,639
over at minimum, probably two hundred and fifty years, honestly,

610
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,199
probably more like three hundred years. If you want to

611
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:42,480
get a conceptual picture of economic development at scale and

612
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:47,199
what business cycles truly represent, you've got to get politics

613
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,039
the same way. If I take like the last thirty years,

614
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:52,320
for example, I say I'm gonna study from nineteen ninety

615
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,280
five to you know, August tenth, twenty twenty five, that

616
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,719
doesn't tell me anything, you know, I mean, so okay,

617
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,400
I can break down. I can break down like riders

618
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,719
of battle and casualties and geostrategic nuances of like the

619
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:15,800
Gulf War, you know, and then person who's like beIN

620
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,280
Lott and then how they were able to corral you know,

621
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,320
guys would combat experience as like you know, direct action

622
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,719
elements and terrorist activity, and then can talk about like

623
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,239
the response to nine to eleven, but in of itself

624
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:36,880
that's meaningless, Like that's like, uh, it'd be like it'd

625
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,039
be like if accident investigators like these days, I know this.

626
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,199
I'm on foot a lot. I'm on footer on CTA

627
00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:44,239
and like forgive this to the scene was like an

628
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,159
old person tangent, but I'm walking. The other day when

629
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:50,239
I did, I took the bus back from the city

630
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,320
and I disembarked like two miles from my house and

631
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,119
there was like this big accident at this intersection by

632
00:39:56,199 --> 00:40:01,679
ninety four and there's a this lady police and she

633
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,639
was like doing something with her phone with this weird

634
00:40:03,679 --> 00:40:06,599
app and I'm like, uh, I like excuse me, man,

635
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:10,000
like what are you doing, you know? And she's like, oh, well,

636
00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:11,840
you know this is like what we use to like

637
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,239
try and you know, basically you know, try and like

638
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,599
restructure like accidents and things. And I'm sure this is

639
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:21,480
just like a simple app to help with the report.

640
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:24,599
And I'm like, okay, thanks, that's interesting. So when I

641
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:28,159
got home, like I started researching like how they like

642
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,559
how this guy evidences admitted in court and stuff, and

643
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,760
the guys who actually do like the insurance adjusted types.

644
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,760
They use some greid to that app. But they do

645
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,840
all this like modeling, okay, to try and see if,

646
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,559
like the physics of what they think happened like could

647
00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:44,559
have happened. Okay, all right, trying to just take like

648
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:47,519
a twenty or thirty year increment of history. They'd be

649
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,199
like if these accident guys came on an accident and said, no, no, no,

650
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,239
we're not gonna model anything that happened before. I only

651
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,239
care about what happened at the moment of impact. That's

652
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,280
how we're gonna solve sad accidents that wouldn't tell you anything.

653
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,360
They like tell you how the body is ragged old.

654
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,840
They tell you about how like a tesla when it

655
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,280
collides with like a geep Cherokee. They tell you like

656
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,000
how the conventions come apart, or like how the airbag deploys.

657
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,280
It would tell you nothing about the causal variables at

658
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,599
an accident. Do you see what I mean? That jumped

659
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:23,719
out of me because of the the kind of research

660
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,519
that I do. I guess that was like the connection

661
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:27,760
I made when this lady told me that, and when

662
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,280
I got home and started like google fooling the ship.

663
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,079
But that's why you got to look at it. So

664
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:37,639
that's why it's important. Let's do. The Iron Guard specifically

665
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,639
is a weird not weird in negative terms, it's it's

666
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,679
it's unusual, it's unusual phenomenon. That's why so much has

667
00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:46,840
written about it when Romania, you know, think of Romania

668
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:52,960
as this country that has this monumental impact on European

669
00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:59,760
culture generally because it it's it's it's a other than

670
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,079
all stirring in the troubles. It's really the only and

671
00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:06,480
I realized that this the sectarian the sympathies were very

672
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:09,920
different in each case, but it's really the only case

673
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:14,519
of like late modern Christian populations developing like a holy

674
00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:22,119
warrior element. Okay, and uh, that's highly significant. And there's

675
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:29,000
a parallel there between net and the Islamic Awakening, and

676
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:31,719
that makes it relevant to today in a way that

677
00:42:33,559 --> 00:42:37,400
not in ethical terms, but in formal and structural terms.

678
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,880
You know, things like things like these most fascist parties

679
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,800
and like the national socialist movement, aren't you know, there's

680
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,800
like a national it's it's relevant to study the German Reich.

681
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,840
But you know, again like that dialectically it was so

682
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,960
bound up with like the labor movement and direct antithetical

683
00:42:56,119 --> 00:43:00,920
resistance and communism and stuff. You know, again the ethical

684
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,360
foundation of his perennial, but the structure of it is

685
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,719
kind of historically contingent. The Iron Guard is an outlawer

686
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:14,719
and it I mean all all all political modes of

687
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,599
warfare and mobilization they're in or are historically contingent. But

688
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:23,440
that has a more u that that has a more

689
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,400
timeless significance, you know, even though that's tim poorly model

690
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,400
everything else too. That's why we'll think the significant.

691
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: I think one of the interesting things that that Carl Dahl,

692
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:37,880
that Carl said about the Iron Guard was that they

693
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,920
were they were early they're doing what they were doing

694
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,280
what we're doing now. They were going around the country

695
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,960
building social capital with people. They were going around the

696
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:54,119
country building parallel institutions. Yeah, they were, they were doing

697
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,000
things that we should be doing now, which a lot

698
00:43:57,039 --> 00:44:01,000
of the same people who you know, can't get their

699
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:03,679
head out of their ass, you know who who should

700
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,199
you know, who should be sympathetic to the things that

701
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,320
we talk about, But they can't get their head out

702
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,840
of their ass because they think that this is all

703
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,719
going to be solved on the national level.

704
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,079
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because they don't get it, because they're still

705
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:20,519
thinking in terms of this this they're imprisoned by twentieth

706
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:27,079
century thinking, you know. Yeah, that's why that was the

707
00:44:27,079 --> 00:44:33,119
whole point of I mean, that's another thing is that, uh,

708
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:38,320
these Romanian guys they were they weren't they weren't reactionaries,

709
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,559
you know, but they also weren't these like secular like

710
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,039
art futures, you know, they.

711
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:44,599
Speaker 1: And that.

712
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,039
Speaker 2: But that's why that's why I met Mercia Eliotti, who

713
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:50,320
really was kind of their like a lot of uh,

714
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,440
a lot of adveragem types who kind of wanted them

715
00:44:54,559 --> 00:45:00,760
murk him exaggerated is uh his and direct the action

716
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,000
type of stuff in the Iron Guard. But marceli Audi

717
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:07,480
he really was, you know, like a philosopher of the

718
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,639
Romanian dissident, right, And that's why he was an important theologian,

719
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:14,079
and that's also why he had that's why he was

720
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:18,199
conceptually sophisticated on anthropology and theology and stuff like that,

721
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,719
you know, any because he had a he had a

722
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,800
very progressive view of politics and direct action. They're not

723
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,119
not progressive in values terms, I mean progressive in uh

724
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,840
like formal terms, and you know that's remarkable, but a

725
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,639
lot of I mean, Romania is a great country and

726
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,360
a great people. I'm not saying bad things about them,

727
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,400
but Romania traditionally is you know, someone underdeveloped, you know,

728
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,320
and there's there's structural difficulties there, but that's those that

729
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,519
kinds of situations were off and you get very sophisticated

730
00:45:50,559 --> 00:45:55,760
revolutionaries emergent from you know, proudly because those people have

731
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,719
a difficult life and you know, the the kind of

732
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:03,280
intelligency among them. You know, they spend a lot of

733
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,239
time thinking about things, especially in comparative terms, you know,

734
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,760
because they because the stuff dregglying takes your life, you know,

735
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,519
if you're if you're a comparatively comfortable guy, you know,

736
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:16,920
in the United States or even even to this day,

737
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:18,320
like in a place like a lot of the UK's

738
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,079
in my stuff, but like in a London or something

739
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:25,239
like generally you're not really thinking about nor do you

740
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,320
care about, you know, what what life is like for

741
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:34,159
people where you know, things like the things like you know,

742
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,039
religiosity is as like a day to day significance and

743
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,679
kind of immediate conceptual terms, you know. I mean I

744
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,079
think about that stuff, but I I mean not that

745
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,440
sound likes smarter than anybody, but I I have like

746
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:49,719
kind of a weird life. And there been times where,

747
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,360
in part like due to my own doing, I was

748
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,639
like really poor or like I I was saying difficulties

749
00:46:55,639 --> 00:47:00,199
surviving and stuff, and like you you know, generally like, uh,

750
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:03,360
that's not like an entirely bad experience. Like I made

751
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,920
that point before. I mean I don't at my age now,

752
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:09,440
I prefer not to go through that again. But uh,

753
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,880
you know, you get it promotes like, you know, meaningful

754
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:21,079
reflection on stuff, you know, and uh, you compare like

755
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:24,320
different modes of life, you know, and so I think

756
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:29,440
that's part of it. But also Eliadi Uh, Romania is

757
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,920
an interesting I mean Romania is a they're they're literally

758
00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:35,639
like a Latin culture. I mean it was like a

759
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:41,599
Roman lost battalion who basically uh bred with you know

760
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:46,760
Docians and stuff you have like Romanians and like they

761
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,599
the language they speak is closest to the Latin of

762
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:51,960
living languages. But they're like a big but they're like

763
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,039
they belong to Byzantium. You know, they're like very orthodox,

764
00:47:56,039 --> 00:48:01,639
So they straddle this like weird kind of civilization diad

765
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,280
and Uh, I think that's part of it. You know,

766
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:14,960
that tends to prompt uh reflections and things of you know,

767
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:18,440
like an ontological nature. But I don't know, but they

768
00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:23,119
but there's a there's a tenor of mysticism in Remedian

769
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:29,800
religiosity too that was able to remain alive even as uh,

770
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,840
the ontological shock of modernity kind of stripped that kind

771
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,000
of thing away. That's also why, I mean, that's why

772
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,199
I've been a lot and gravitated to Afghanistan. Like people

773
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,679
make jokes, people make it jokes and stuff. I mean

774
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,199
some of I mean, it's fine. I'm not saying people

775
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:48,039
shouldn't joke about ethnic stuff. But you know, bin Laden

776
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,440
his first destination was Sudan. You know, he funded a

777
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,840
bunch of infrastructural products projects there because he thought that

778
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,920
he was looking at a place like a pure Islam

779
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,400
could thrive and people superficially the way they come out

780
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,840
that the way they come at that as Oh, well,

781
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:05,480
he's talking about primitive conditions or you know places where

782
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:07,400
you know, like a local emop so there's a lot

783
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,559
of cloud. No, No, that's not what he was talking about.

784
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:14,360
You're talking about like an intuitive way of life where

785
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:19,119
this kind of awareness of pre rational things was like

786
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,679
a part of the living faith. And he had the

787
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,480
inclusion that Sudan was not that place. You know, people

788
00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:26,519
have Sudanese or a bunch of like bombs right around

789
00:49:26,519 --> 00:49:28,800
in Toyota's with like clash and acrosts, and there's something,

790
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:36,920
there's something. But in Afghanistan, I mean, Afghanistan is probably

791
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,320
more primitive than Sudan. But he's like among these past dunes,

792
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:44,559
you know, there's like a like true Islam can thrive

793
00:49:44,599 --> 00:49:47,559
if they're like receptive to it, and you know they

794
00:49:48,039 --> 00:49:52,719
it's you know, and I them being like a warrior race,

795
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,320
I'm sure has something to do with it. But you know,

796
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,800
I'm not sure just sing something like Romanians or like,

797
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:04,400
you know, their conditions are is are as primitive is

798
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,960
that of passions, But I'm just saying a complimentary thing

799
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,480
of both populations, you know, So that's something they consider,

800
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:14,239
you know, but there's one of the reasons why, like

801
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:18,519
religiosity and the practice of it is mysterious, you know.

802
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,079
Speaker 1: So there are a lot of people who have this, uh,

803
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,679
this romantic if you want to call it romantic notion

804
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,639
of that. The way that you know, the the United

805
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:38,559
States is going to be d zoged or you know,

806
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:41,760
the globalism will be kicked from it is the country

807
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,440
is going to become one ten. It's going to be Oh,

808
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,440
they've been kicked out of one hundred and nine countries

809
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,960
and the United States is going to be the one

810
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:51,480
hundred and tenth country that get kicked out of I

811
00:50:51,559 --> 00:50:54,960
have a tendency to believe that that's not going to happen.

812
00:50:55,519 --> 00:50:58,880
So I guess the question the question is is how

813
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:01,760
is zog How is this occupation defeated?

814
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: Ultimately because uh, his historical processes, they're taking it down,

815
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:14,480
and you know, the it the only strength of it

816
00:51:14,639 --> 00:51:19,440
is the strength of it is the ability to manipulate

817
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:28,599
sociological factors and doing forced social engineering. Well, that apparatusis

818
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:34,960
is going away, you know, and ironically as true globalism

819
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:39,639
sets in economically, I mean, the multilateral system is dead.

820
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:45,000
But that's that's a different thing. Like what matters, I mean,

821
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:46,960
don't get me wrong. Like that's that's the one thing

822
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:50,840
I like that the administration is doing. Is there, you know,

823
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:55,639
they they've realized a workable return to bilateral trade arrangement

824
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,519
to the essential because we're running massive, running massive deficits.

825
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,280
That that that's catastrophic. Okay. But the issue. The issue

826
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,519
isn't imports and exports as regards to globalism. It's uh,

827
00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:13,119
it's the velocity and mobility of money. And that's not

828
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:18,280
going away. That's here to stay. It's it's becoming more integrated. Okay.

829
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,840
So anywhere on this planet, I can do business and

830
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,039
access money, and so can any other man Okay, unless

831
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:32,679
he's like in a kind ofitentiary or something, obviously. But

832
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:39,880
concomonant with that, political globalism is becoming decentralized because there's

833
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:46,719
no other choice. So free association is returning by necessity,

834
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,559
but also because it's not the political will to try

835
00:52:48,599 --> 00:52:57,679
and break it up, you know. And uh, as there's

836
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,199
a the court of global opinion truly becomes this positive.

837
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,719
People won't tolerate these imperatives anymore. It's already happening. The

838
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:12,440
entire world despises Israel. You know this idea that uh

839
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:14,880
you know, like I've said before too, like you know,

840
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:18,400
even even policing twenty centers, policing is coming to an end.

841
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,079
So it's like, okay, like moving forward over the next

842
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:25,519
two to three centuries. I mean, it's already happening in earnest,

843
00:53:25,519 --> 00:53:27,440
but I'm saying, like, yeah, this gets more fully realized

844
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:29,559
to go. Here's a community that's like a ninety percent

845
00:53:29,679 --> 00:53:32,480
white is like a community like Harvey. It's like it's

846
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,519
like nine nine percent like black folks. You know. Here's

847
00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:38,880
like a community, you know, like like Pilson is now

848
00:53:39,199 --> 00:53:44,719
where it's basically like Spanish. Ohkait, what what's gonna happen?

849
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,400
Is like the National guardin was Salt and say we

850
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:49,880
demand you stop living this way or what you're you're

851
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,880
gonna shoot us all? Try it? How's that going to

852
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,159
work for you? How's it gonna work on? Like you're

853
00:53:56,199 --> 00:54:01,199
live streaming guys like opening up on like regular guys

854
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,599
and their wives and kids for like not having enough

855
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:05,360
of black people live there or in the gast of

856
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,599
black folks like not being integrated enough. That's done, That's unthinkable.

857
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:11,639
Speaker 1: That's how.

858
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:14,639
Speaker 4: I think.

859
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: What a lot of I think, what a lot of

860
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,880
people will argue is is that whether you take the

861
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,480
Kevin McDonald route about evolution you know how how Jews

862
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:28,480
have evolved through revolutionary processes to be so insular, or

863
00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:31,639
you take the Michael Jones where you know they denied

864
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,760
logos and at the cross you know they've been since then.

865
00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:38,920
I have a tendency to take a mixture of both.

866
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:45,280
I believe both have both have validity to it that

867
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,840
as long as they're there there, as long as they're

868
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,960
amongst you, they are going to be seeking to subvert.

869
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:52,960
So how can you live with them?

870
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: Because that's not because people don't understand the reason why

871
00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:01,519
is reach such such intent. Hana or Runt, who Wasger's accolyte,

872
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,840
you know she her book, The Origin of Totalitarianism, is

873
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,360
a really good book. You know, the title is a

874
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:15,840
little weird. She basically breaks down exactly like what Jewish

875
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,960
power is. And you know, before before the end of

876
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,960
the nineteenth century, Jews had no political power, economic power.

877
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:31,719
That's not like a small thing, but they had no

878
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:36,760
they had no political clout that was laughable. Suddenly in

879
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,119
the twentieth century they did, and gee, look what happened.

880
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,639
Isn't that interesting? You know? It's also too like, I'm

881
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:47,840
not saying that the people in the Pale Settlement are that,

882
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,480
you know, the Jewish minority in England in you know,

883
00:55:54,159 --> 00:55:57,679
twelve to eighty, like was doing good things in the

884
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,400
country or was benign. But the reason why people like

885
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:02,400
Edward kicked them out was because he didn't want to

886
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,599
pay him back. It's not because he's like, I'm a

887
00:56:04,639 --> 00:56:06,719
white man and to help with these Jews who aren't

888
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,440
white and they're comedies. It was okay, you guys like

889
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,079
funding my war against the French, but you know, I

890
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:16,559
don't like the fact that you're shylocking me on these

891
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:19,400
on interest and I can't pay right now anyway, I'm

892
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,039
the king. What are you gonna do? Oh you don't

893
00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:25,000
like it? Get out those few rights you had, they're gone.

894
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,719
That's what it was. It wasn't like he was based

895
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,599
and Cromwell was like a liberal who like Jews like that.

896
00:56:32,079 --> 00:56:36,360
You can't like extrapolate current conditions back then, you know,

897
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,519
and uh where the rubber met the road, Yeah, you

898
00:56:41,679 --> 00:56:45,920
had especially like I mean Poland Ukraine, which were like

899
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:49,239
the same territory for a long time that was basically

900
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,000
like a goy of slave plantation. You know, the most

901
00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:58,039
the you know, the most enslaved populations were like North Africans,

902
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:02,599
Arabs and Slavs, you know. And so yeah, I mean

903
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,760
I'm not saying that's like a minor thing, but people

904
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,519
this idea that like the political paradigms of like the

905
00:57:10,639 --> 00:57:14,239
nineteen thirties existed in like the eleven thirties, and like

906
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,239
that's why you Jews were disliked like that, that makes

907
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:23,559
no sense, you know, And like I said, okay, move

908
00:57:23,639 --> 00:57:27,599
forward like two hundred years, where there's like not really

909
00:57:27,639 --> 00:57:29,639
a United States of America. Then kind of like in

910
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,719
name only, law enforcement and military power is like almost

911
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:39,639
exclusively private, you know, if you or it's like self

912
00:57:39,719 --> 00:57:40,760
help oriented.

913
00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: You know.

914
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:48,119
Speaker 2: There's no more public school, there's a the bully pulpit

915
00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:51,039
of media as exists in the twentieth century is gone forever.

916
00:57:53,559 --> 00:57:56,079
There's no possibility of something like a Cold War happening

917
00:57:56,159 --> 00:57:59,599
again because true globalism is now centuries old. Like what

918
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,000
what is the federal government gonna do with people? Like

919
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:05,000
I said, they're gonna they're gonna get a bunch of pinkertons.

920
00:58:05,079 --> 00:58:09,079
So like, shoot, everybody who's not diverse in the community

921
00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:13,239
live in that's laughable, you know, like it's this is

922
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,079
coming to an end, and people don't understand that, and

923
00:58:18,119 --> 00:58:19,800
I try and tell them again and again and they

924
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,719
don't listen to me. Old people do know some things.

925
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:28,400
When I was like a teenager, like half of the

926
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,800
places I going out regularly, like nighttime or daytime, if

927
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,559
I went there, I might have gotten fucking killed. Like

928
00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:39,760
black people would literally like kill me. Now that's unthinkable.

929
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,760
Thirty years ago, Bill Clinton, he'd say to the DNC, like,

930
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,880
you know, they're like fifty years what would be one race?

931
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,880
People like whoo, yeah, it's type racism. Like if a

932
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,519
president can't say that now people want to fucking lynch him.

933
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,639
You'll be like outraged. I mean, can you imagine that?

934
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: You know?

935
00:59:02,199 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: Now people act like you're rather corny and they roll

936
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,440
their eyes at you or they tell you're like a

937
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,800
total piece of shit. If you're like stumped for Israel,

938
00:59:11,079 --> 00:59:14,480
unless you're in like some like dumb hick town, or

939
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:17,400
unless you're like in Skokie, Illinois, were like ninety people

940
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,599
are Jewish or something. You live on a different planet

941
00:59:20,679 --> 00:59:25,960
than thirty years ago in this regard, like it's it's

942
00:59:26,039 --> 00:59:29,920
like a different country, you know, and people act like

943
00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:33,039
this shit like somehow like a staying power. It's ridiculous.

944
00:59:36,039 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: People also think that the that this was forced upon us,

945
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,840
And yeah, in a way, you do have a social

946
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,360
engineering regime, but you also have to have people who

947
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,559
are willing to go along with it and also willing

948
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,920
people who are willing to collude. Yeah. I tell people

949
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,920
this all the time. I'm like, if you're if you

950
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,440
if you want to complain about this, jew did this

951
01:00:03,719 --> 01:00:05,760
and in history and it led to this, and it

952
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,320
led to this and everything. They didn't do it alone.

953
01:00:09,159 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: What's the heck? That's all point of parables about people

954
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,599
like Nero and Julian the Apostate. You know these guys,

955
01:00:17,159 --> 01:00:21,079
these guys were Roman patricians, you know, they they thought

956
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:24,320
that they were gods. Basically you know the fact that uh,

957
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:27,400
I mean even like even like Donald Trump's like that,

958
01:00:28,679 --> 01:00:30,519
you know, like I call him like Trump episode he

959
01:00:30,599 --> 01:00:32,840
is a piece of shit. But Trump Trump doesn't care

960
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:37,239
about Jews. Trump heres about Donald Trump. Like if every

961
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,119
you think of Israel see to exist tomorrow. Trump would care,

962
01:00:41,239 --> 01:00:43,559
You wouldn't care. You'd be like, these guys can no

963
01:00:43,639 --> 01:00:46,880
longer pay me, you know, when you find somebody else

964
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:52,599
to pay him, and somebody else would you know, I mean,

965
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,159
in some way you think that's worse than like being

966
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,480
a part of the inferialing people, even in a warped

967
01:00:57,559 --> 01:01:01,039
way that's like against the God like Zions are. But

968
01:01:01,159 --> 01:01:05,079
that's a whole point, you know. And it's like also,

969
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:09,280
I mean, like I said, if you don't part of

970
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,440
the the reason why I'm writing this manuscript, I mean,

971
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,400
it's for a lot of reasons because you know, like

972
01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:17,800
I mentioned you the other day, because I don't have children,

973
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,719
which I'm totally fine with, and I can't sing and dance,

974
01:01:22,519 --> 01:01:24,119
you know, I kind of like to leave something behind

975
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,119
my own a small way. So that's like this book

976
01:01:26,119 --> 01:01:31,199
I'm writing, and I'm trying to explain the twentieth century

977
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,760
in one value that's like not too cumbersome, it is

978
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:39,079
actually something readable. You've got to look at the Jewish

979
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,559
diaspora like as a people, like as a as a

980
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:43,280
true nation in the asphere. You got to look at

981
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,679
them as like a combat actor in World War Two,

982
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:52,159
as everybody get in the era, frankly, and America and

983
01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:56,719
the Soviet Union allied with that actor country Europe and

984
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:02,039
the Empire Japan. Okay, then as glo as this divided

985
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:08,920
globalism set in the Soviet Union turned on America and

986
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,639
this nation in diaspora, which now had representation at international law,

987
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,079
like in the state of Israel. So you're talking about

988
01:02:18,079 --> 01:02:24,960
like the winning coalition of the victorious element in the

989
01:02:25,039 --> 01:02:32,159
twentieth century. Like that's why, okay, And that's something I

990
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:39,119
try and explicate. I'm drawing things for the SEGA conceptual intelligibility.

991
01:02:40,039 --> 01:02:42,440
I'm kind of drawing this in broad strokes, but that's

992
01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:43,320
the short answer.

993
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that we I think everything. So we

994
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,960
live in a world and I think I heard you

995
01:02:56,039 --> 01:02:59,559
say this recently. It's like people want to be like, oh,

996
01:02:59,639 --> 01:03:01,960
I didn't know this, and I can't I can't be

997
01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:05,760
educated in this, even though like literally there every book

998
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,480
in the world is in the palm of their hand

999
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:10,320
with the phone and they can find out anything they want.

1000
01:03:11,079 --> 01:03:16,000
And yeah, I think that the you're people are not

1001
01:03:16,199 --> 01:03:22,199
going to understand exactly what's happened until you start blaming

1002
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,320
you don't just blame one group you blame you blame

1003
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,519
everyone who was in on this.

1004
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,159
Speaker 2: Well, they just understand historical processes. Like I said, I

1005
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:33,719
one thing I do think of on Mesians are on too.

1006
01:03:34,639 --> 01:03:41,199
I don't accept their whole. Uh, I don't accept their practice,

1007
01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:46,639
you know, or anything. But something I write about is

1008
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,119
you do need some kind of intuition to interpret business cycles.

1009
01:03:51,239 --> 01:03:54,960
I mean, Stumping made that point too. That's not it's

1010
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,519
not that's not any mystical. It doesn't. I'm not any

1011
01:03:58,599 --> 01:04:02,559
reference or drawing around like all read or something. But

1012
01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:06,599
you either have that you don't. The whole is greater

1013
01:04:06,639 --> 01:04:08,559
than the sum of its part. Sometimes the water like

1014
01:04:08,719 --> 01:04:12,199
reading the discrete codable variables. It's the same thing with

1015
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,119
politics and historical phenomenon or cultural things. I mean Eliot

1016
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,199
pointing into you either it's like, oh, you know he

1017
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:24,440
was talking about shamanism and the prime symbols between very

1018
01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:27,599
urus cultures. What commonalities are He's like, yeah, I can

1019
01:04:27,719 --> 01:04:31,480
list variables that I can identify synonymous according to some

1020
01:04:31,559 --> 01:04:37,840
some arbitrary criteria, you know, ideas of edification and suffering

1021
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,000
and things that are and feelings that are universal the

1022
01:04:41,079 --> 01:04:45,800
human condition. But they don't like tell us anything like

1023
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,840
like a sacred experience and things that are symbolic of it.

1024
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,639
In psychological terms, you know them when you see them,

1025
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,719
or you don't foresee these things, Okay, And I suppose

1026
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,320
that's what a talent is for religion. A miss culttures

1027
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:02,719
ones that have stronger and more vogative symbols of this

1028
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,960
nature or a stronger in that regard. Ones that don't

1029
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:13,320
are weaker. Okay, but that's part of it. Like even

1030
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,239
people are intelligent, and I'm not like a super smart person.

1031
01:05:16,679 --> 01:05:19,320
I don't think I'm stupid, but I'm the last persons

1032
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,400
gonna pretend like I'm some kind of like genius or

1033
01:05:21,519 --> 01:05:24,079
like I'm so much smarter than the norm. Because I'm not.

1034
01:05:25,519 --> 01:05:28,400
I can perceive things in my field of concentration that

1035
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:29,280
other people can't.

1036
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:30,559
Speaker 1: Okay.

1037
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,199
Speaker 2: There's guys who trade stocks, and there's guys who trade

1038
01:05:34,239 --> 01:05:39,039
for its. They can do that with financial quantities and

1039
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:43,480
things like that and financial instruments. I can't do that

1040
01:05:43,719 --> 01:05:47,639
with that kind of stuff. I can with macroeconomics and politics.

1041
01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:52,159
And if you can't, you're tripping over your dick because

1042
01:05:52,159 --> 01:05:54,519
you're just looking at variables and treating it like some

1043
01:05:54,679 --> 01:05:59,360
sort of formal equation or something, you know, and if

1044
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,360
that was the case, you guys like Metternich or Henry

1045
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,559
Kissinger or James Baker wouldn't exist. If you were a

1046
01:06:05,719 --> 01:06:08,800
king or like a president or like a warlord, you

1047
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:10,960
just like hire a guy from M I T and'd

1048
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,599
be like, okay, code code, what's gonna happen? You know,

1049
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,000
what's what? What's the Soviet Union gonna do? Like code

1050
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:17,639
these variables?

1051
01:06:17,719 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: Now?

1052
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,239
Speaker 2: Well know for certain nobody can do that because that

1053
01:06:20,239 --> 01:06:23,119
does because that's not what it is. But somehow guys

1054
01:06:23,159 --> 01:06:25,719
like Metroanach and Kissinger and Baker like knew what was

1055
01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:29,199
going to happen. It's not as a psychic, you know,

1056
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,559
I'm not saying like I'm anywhere near guys like that obviously,

1057
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,480
but on the spectrum or scale spectrum said that if

1058
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:38,519
you were going to call me a retard, but on

1059
01:06:38,679 --> 01:06:41,800
the scale of the way my mind is wired. I

1060
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:43,440
that's where my skill set is.

1061
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:48,079
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, one of the points made here, and I'm

1062
01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:50,079
just doing a bunch of Devil's Advocate at this point,

1063
01:06:51,559 --> 01:06:56,639
is that the monetary system allows them to go, you know,

1064
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,320
do a lot of the things that they can do.

1065
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,480
That's part. Do you see that, Do you see the

1066
01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:02,400
dollar going away?

1067
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be It's not gonna just disappear, and

1068
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,480
there's not gonna be some punctuated collapse like nineteen twenty nine,

1069
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:14,159
but that you know, wipes out the dollars of reserve

1070
01:07:14,239 --> 01:07:17,679
currency in some punctuated way, Like the dollar is gonna

1071
01:07:17,679 --> 01:07:20,360
be kind of devalued to the point where it's just

1072
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,559
in a de fact a way, even if they're still

1073
01:07:23,559 --> 01:07:26,000
gonna be incentive to maintain it the reserve currency, so

1074
01:07:26,039 --> 01:07:28,239
you can still like encourage America to do business with

1075
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,840
you in the way that America wants to, you know.

1076
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,280
And like a lot of countries, I mean, China is

1077
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,800
the most prominent, but you know, they arn't eventually peg

1078
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:41,880
their currency against the dollar, you know, so that's gonna

1079
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,440
endure for a while. But gradually, even countries that insist

1080
01:07:45,559 --> 01:07:48,039
that like the dollar is still the reserve currency, they're

1081
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:50,039
gonna deal like what Bricks does. I'm not one of

1082
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:52,119
these guys is like Bricks is the future because when

1083
01:07:52,159 --> 01:07:57,000
that that's the Kremlin being stupid. But uh, and Coping

1084
01:07:57,159 --> 01:08:00,119
is like the youngsters ce but uh, their model of

1085
01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:04,519
like maintaining like a floating basket of currencies as a

1086
01:08:05,519 --> 01:08:10,000
you know, to flesh out their reserves. That's going to

1087
01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:10,679
become the norm.

1088
01:08:12,199 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 4: You know.

1089
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, well what you know, I think what I hear

1090
01:08:16,279 --> 01:08:18,359
a lot of people say is it's like, oh, the

1091
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,000
you know, the government's doing bitcoin reserves. El Salvador has

1092
01:08:22,039 --> 01:08:25,319
bitcoin reserves. We still have gold reserves.

1093
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:30,520
Speaker 2: And but what the dollar? Like, Bitcoin's not a currency,

1094
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,800
you know what bitcoin is. There's there's nothing wrong with crypto,

1095
01:08:33,159 --> 01:08:37,239
but it's not a currency. It's a non traditional bond

1096
01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:40,640
and it's a way of banking without being availed to

1097
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:46,039
the enforcement mechanism and control and possible seizure of federal authorities.

1098
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,359
Like you don't have a currency when the only store

1099
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:51,800
and value when your currency is pegged to the dollar.

1100
01:08:54,239 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I made that point about that. I made

1101
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,800
that point about gold. It's like anything that you're trying

1102
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:04,239
to you identify as a potential m one currency so

1103
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:08,920
that you can, you know, stop fractional reserve banking. That's

1104
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,520
not what stops fractional or reserve banking. What stops fractional

1105
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,880
or reserve banking is people in charge who don't want

1106
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,319
to fractionally reserve.

1107
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:22,039
Speaker 2: The banking also something insidious thing in of itself, Like

1108
01:09:22,119 --> 01:09:26,239
that's antiquated thinking, you know, like what's the alternative we

1109
01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:29,800
should have, like an Islamic banking system where you're basically

1110
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,359
like when you take out a loan from a bank,

1111
01:09:31,399 --> 01:09:35,600
you're basically lend them stock, and you know you're selling

1112
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,720
them like perennial stock, like beyond the scope of their investment.

1113
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:44,319
I mean, like lending it, lending it interest in a

1114
01:09:44,399 --> 01:09:48,600
way that's not usurious, that that's that's what fuels business

1115
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:52,640
and innovation. That's not like evil somehow. But the same

1116
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,880
people too, like the people equate like banking is evil

1117
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,560
with the same people claim like gold is is a

1118
01:10:00,079 --> 01:10:04,439
is somehow like immune to interest rate manipulation. Gold is

1119
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,600
literally a shiny rock, Like shiny rocks aren't real, and

1120
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,640
like bearer papers not fake, Like how's like a shiny

1121
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:16,760
rock real? You know, Like I think gold is cool.

1122
01:10:17,319 --> 01:10:19,920
I like to see stuff meat out of it. It's

1123
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,640
nice to give you your girlfriend or something. I'm not

1124
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:28,079
anti gold, but it's a shiny rock. I mean that's

1125
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:28,479
what it is.

1126
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,079
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna get us out of here. Let

1127
01:10:32,119 --> 01:10:34,760
me just read a couple of super chats here. Uh

1128
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,520
ex coboron Rumble says, and I don't believe this for

1129
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,920
one second. I mean I believe the second part. I

1130
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,640
don't believe the first part, says I've never met a Jew,

1131
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,000
but I did shake George Bush's hand when I was

1132
01:10:47,079 --> 01:10:49,640
ten in two thousand, in the year two thousand, so

1133
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:50,439
close enough.

1134
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:51,520
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

1135
01:10:54,479 --> 01:11:00,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, right, yeah, Sully the amount like kite

1136
01:11:00,399 --> 01:11:04,399
subscribe for five, thank you, Carl Yen, says Pete. Did

1137
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,880
you ever see any gigs at the Brass Mug in Tampa?

1138
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,399
I saw some great bands back then. Yeah, that was

1139
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,279
like the freakin' There was a lot of punk stuff

1140
01:11:12,319 --> 01:11:15,119
there and hardcore stuff, and like at that time when

1141
01:11:15,159 --> 01:11:17,920
I was in Tampa, I just wasn't into it. I've

1142
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,279
been to the Mouse Down there too, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1143
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,239
and that was that was kind of blowing up when

1144
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,680
when I was there too, But yeah, I was more

1145
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,840
into like the there was like a big goth glam

1146
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,920
scene there and everything, and that was like most of

1147
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,159
my friends that I was hanging out with were like

1148
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:40,760
into goth clam and everything. So yeah, Sully the Malki,

1149
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,199
says Pete. Did reading The Last Crusade have anything to

1150
01:11:43,279 --> 01:11:46,159
do with you getting back to your Catholic roots? Understand

1151
01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:49,840
you likely were on your way, but wow, Carol's Carol's

1152
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:54,279
work really pulls me that way too. For a for

1153
01:11:54,399 --> 01:11:57,840
a bunch of years, like I was just getting put in,

1154
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,399
like Catholic heart core Catholics were getting put into, like

1155
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,600
my friends were, like everyone that I was coming into

1156
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,159
contact with was a hardcore Catholic and everything. And then

1157
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,000
I guess what cinched it was when I moved to

1158
01:12:12,079 --> 01:12:16,800
this little town in East Alabama that has you know,

1159
01:12:17,159 --> 01:12:21,880
more like one hundred times more chickens than people, and

1160
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,479
there's this little Catholic parish in this town, and I'm

1161
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,600
just like, oh, let me go visit that and everything.

1162
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,520
And that's what That's basically what pulled me back in

1163
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,399
and got me for some of my first confession in decades,

1164
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:38,199
which was a lot of fun. And then all right,

1165
01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:42,520
and our buddy Kreig says, always great to see Pete

1166
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:47,359
and Thomas on a Sunday night stream after work, Creek

1167
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,880
coming in from Austria. That's awesome. But all right, man,

1168
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,479
I'm gonna let you go. I I appreciate you joining

1169
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,640
me for this stream, and I appreciate everybody. You know,

1170
01:12:57,159 --> 01:12:59,760
I was I was reading the comments, you know, and

1171
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,079
and I just wasn't responding to him because I thought

1172
01:13:03,119 --> 01:13:05,720
this was a conversation that needed to be had at

1173
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,159
this time. So I want to thank Thomas for joining

1174
01:13:09,239 --> 01:13:14,159
me once again. And yeah, man. Oh and by the way, everyone,

1175
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,319
in about an hour and fifteen minutes, the next episode

1176
01:13:17,359 --> 01:13:20,560
with Thomas comes out. It's part four of the Radical

1177
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:26,960
Traditionalist School where Thomas talks about Marciliatti and Julius Evila. Yeah,

1178
01:13:28,199 --> 01:13:31,680
so tune in. Thank you, Thomas. I appreciate it.

1179
01:13:32,319 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.

1180
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 1: Man. Want to welcome everyone back to the Pekingano Show.

1181
01:13:37,359 --> 01:13:40,760
Thomas is back, and I guess maybe this will be

1182
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,319
like a part two of what we talked about in

1183
01:13:43,359 --> 01:13:44,520
the live stream last week.

1184
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:49,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sense. It will characterize it as such, what

1185
01:13:49,359 --> 01:13:51,880
do you got for us? I refer to Hannah or

1186
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,399
rent a Lot. I mean I cite her a Lot

1187
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:57,079
as one of my sources. I mean, she was an

1188
01:13:57,119 --> 01:14:03,960
important historian. She was an Akolata Heidegger, and she wrote

1189
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:12,359
specifically about the historical experience of Jewish and European hostility,

1190
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:17,159
and that's important because it's not something people understand. And unfortunately,

1191
01:14:21,319 --> 01:14:23,960
I mean, I honestly don't understand where people get their

1192
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,199
ideas from them. I guess maybe they think internet memes

1193
01:14:27,279 --> 01:14:29,560
constitute some sort of education on things or.

1194
01:14:31,279 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, you don't even have to guess that.

1195
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,159
I've had people tell me, like when I was a

1196
01:14:37,239 --> 01:14:40,640
libertarian and I would talk about, you know, narco capitalism,

1197
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,359
how do people tell me? Everything I know I'm in

1198
01:14:43,399 --> 01:14:45,520
a narco capitalist and everything I know about a narco

1199
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:46,880
capitalist I learned from memes.

1200
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, just like the terminology the one

1201
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:56,359
invoke it's this weird poemical stuff that doesn't really have

1202
01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:01,199
a context, and you know, which is like whatever, I

1203
01:15:01,239 --> 01:15:03,880
don't I prefer people like that didn't have the capability

1204
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:09,239
to poison our conversations. But you know, it's something, Uh,

1205
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:16,600
it's something that's ill understood, and uh, it's not reducible

1206
01:15:17,399 --> 01:15:21,239
the subject matter. I mean, it's not reducible to polemic

1207
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:29,239
or things like that. And you can't, I regard, regardless

1208
01:15:29,279 --> 01:15:36,600
of what's pathological or dysfunctional about you know, telemun of judaism,

1209
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:42,039
you can't project current political conditions into the distant past,

1210
01:15:42,199 --> 01:15:46,439
as if that this is just some sort of structural

1211
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,079
schema that's always existed. And the reason why things became

1212
01:15:50,199 --> 01:15:56,560
so anybody became so violent in the twentieth century is

1213
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,800
because there was a there was issues of first impression, emergent,

1214
01:16:00,119 --> 01:16:05,680
a structure that was new. You know. One of our

1215
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,560
Ren's big points is that, first of all, the Third

1216
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,760
Reich was not at all in nationalist government. In some ways,

1217
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:16,000
it was the opposite. They looked at their mandate and

1218
01:16:16,119 --> 01:16:22,720
their mission and their ideological imperative as as civilizational you know,

1219
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:28,359
their velt politic was a superpower politique. Hitler was always

1220
01:16:28,399 --> 01:16:33,560
talking about how how Germany's the actual pivot of Europe

1221
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:37,600
and U strategic terms, Europe is the air. It's a

1222
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:43,039
classical civilization. And that's what we've got to understand ourselves.

1223
01:16:43,399 --> 01:16:49,520
Nationalism is this Westphalian contrivance that was a mile wide

1224
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,560
and a centimeter deep, you know. And I think by

1225
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,239
the point before the national Socialists they'd contempt for the

1226
01:16:56,399 --> 01:17:02,159
narrowness and nationalism and their early enemy he's I'm talking

1227
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,000
like when Drexler was heading the party, before Hitler even

1228
01:17:07,079 --> 01:17:11,520
you know, came on the scene with the DAP, these

1229
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,119
like region, these regional nationalists were the guys they fight

1230
01:17:15,239 --> 01:17:18,960
with a lot of the time because these people were

1231
01:17:20,279 --> 01:17:24,199
stunted in their perspective, and that that's not what national

1232
01:17:24,319 --> 01:17:29,960
socialism or any of the dominated theological strains that were

1233
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,600
actually having an impact in the world affairs, like, like,

1234
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,880
nobody thought that way anymore. Who was actually engaged, you know.

1235
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,239
In the way the way to understand Jewish power is

1236
01:17:39,319 --> 01:17:45,000
that it was kind of the legacy of the balance

1237
01:17:45,039 --> 01:17:50,520
of power system in Europe, you know, the slow development

1238
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:56,680
of nation states under kind of the tutelage and domain

1239
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,000
of absolute monarchs.

1240
01:18:01,039 --> 01:18:01,199
Speaker 1: You know.

1241
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 2: One of the ways they kind of were able to

1242
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:09,000
project power across the national frontiers, especially in the terms

1243
01:18:09,039 --> 01:18:13,680
of fluid capital especials that existed then, was through Jewish

1244
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:18,399
financial concerns. And this also of unofficial means that diplomacy,

1245
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,439
so such that Jews were kind of the de facto

1246
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:28,800
integrated banking structure of you know what's fali in Europe,

1247
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,079
you know, and to be clear, that didn't convey any

1248
01:18:32,159 --> 01:18:35,680
direct political power. As a matter of law, Jews had

1249
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:41,560
no political power, you know, so when people act like

1250
01:18:42,279 --> 01:18:46,479
in Cromwell's error or something, Jews were these bad guys

1251
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:54,279
who were sabotaging political events or engaged in social revolutionary activity.

1252
01:18:54,399 --> 01:19:00,479
That's asinine, like whatever hostilities existed sociologically, it didn't angelate

1253
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:06,399
to that kind of paradigm because that wasn't possible. It's

1254
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:15,520
just ignorant to suggest otherwise, you know. And after the

1255
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:20,680
French Revolution, the degree to which everything abruptly changed across

1256
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:29,520
the continent, that can't be overemphasized. You know, among other things,

1257
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:33,159
a seving the sociological disruptions and the kind of onthological

1258
01:19:33,279 --> 01:19:40,479
shock of it. Political power started to become global, you know,

1259
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:46,159
in an ascent way, and the nation states that still existed,

1260
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:51,800
their concerns became more and more scaled, and an exponentially

1261
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:56,880
larger amount of capital and credit needed to be placed

1262
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:04,159
at a government or a monarch disposal, you know, and

1263
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:09,000
this caused a consolidation. These kinds of smaller concern financial

1264
01:20:09,079 --> 01:20:15,720
concerns were wiped out. Jews were downwardly mobile during that period,

1265
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:23,119
and that radicalized a lot of them. The combined assets

1266
01:20:23,159 --> 01:20:27,960
of the wealthiest strata of Western and Central European jewry

1267
01:20:29,159 --> 01:20:33,439
became more and more consolidated, and then that became a

1268
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:37,600
political concern just because of the power that wielded, and

1269
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:46,399
suddenly the fortunes of that sort of financial structure was

1270
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:50,800
no longer abstract from politics and political events, you know,

1271
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:57,439
and there were certain show points whereby access to that

1272
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:04,039
kind of fluid capital dependent upon you know, political imperatives,

1273
01:21:05,119 --> 01:21:10,399
and so you had ambitious men within these remaining Jewish

1274
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:16,880
financial concerns who became who became political actors, you know,

1275
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,479
in part because that will was always there and couldn't

1276
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:27,600
be realized, and also partly by necessity, you know. And

1277
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:32,439
to be clear, this is a fairly formalized structure. Long before,

1278
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,399
you know, a lot of court of stories had this idea,

1279
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,479
and even people who have someone of a visionist perspective,

1280
01:21:41,359 --> 01:21:46,720
they view the kind of weird interdependence between European monarchs

1281
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:52,479
and aristocrats and jury as suddenly after you know, emancipation

1282
01:21:53,119 --> 01:22:01,640
and the granting a political rights to people across credle divides.

1283
01:22:03,359 --> 01:22:06,600
You know, this was suddenly when Jews started appearing at

1284
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:13,039
European court. That's totally inaccurate. Pretty much every noble house,

1285
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:19,279
every monarch, every royal court, they had some representative of

1286
01:22:19,399 --> 01:22:23,119
Jewish financial concerns literally posted at court to handle this

1287
01:22:23,279 --> 01:22:30,000
kind of business, you know, and these guys it was

1288
01:22:30,039 --> 01:22:32,560
almost always a single individual. It was almost you know,

1289
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:37,720
it was almost always a single man who wasn't tethered

1290
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:42,479
the intrigues by virtual like the woman he was married

1291
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:50,359
due He almost always had contacts, familial contacts across national

1292
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:54,159
frontiers and ideally he'd have some sort of in with

1293
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:59,039
whoever the primary rial the court he served, you know,

1294
01:22:59,279 --> 01:23:07,239
was was so in gauged, and uh that was kind

1295
01:23:07,279 --> 01:23:10,279
of the start of Jewish political power as we think

1296
01:23:10,359 --> 01:23:16,199
of it, you know, despite what people think. I mean, yeah,

1297
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:21,840
in the modern era, like post Westphalian peace, money you

1298
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,720
took on an outside significance in political life. But it's

1299
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,359
the idea that having money aximatically makes you political powerful,

1300
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:31,920
pultically powerful.

1301
01:23:32,279 --> 01:23:32,640
Speaker 4: Is h.

1302
01:23:34,199 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 2: That's a non sequort or it doesn't. I mean even

1303
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:43,760
today they're they're two different things. There's uh an interdependence

1304
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:50,760
there that's natural and financial power and political power. There's

1305
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:57,000
there's an there's incestuous aspects to the human component of

1306
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:04,439
who serves these concerns. But one doesn't somehow translate to

1307
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:09,359
the other automatically, you know, So it's not the thing

1308
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,960
of Jews. Is rich guys like that's not that doesn't

1309
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:17,199
tell us anything. All kinds of people have money, you know,

1310
01:24:21,399 --> 01:24:26,439
in terms of control of wealth at scale, the Japanese

1311
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,159
and the Saudis control an astronomical amount of money. The

1312
01:24:30,239 --> 01:24:34,520
world's not run by Japan and Saudi Arabia, okay, And

1313
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:35,560
that's not an accident.

1314
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:40,279
Speaker 4: The U.

1315
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 2: Plus two production of commodities at scale, it had this

1316
01:24:48,119 --> 01:24:54,600
kind of homogenizing effect on European economies, at least in

1317
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:59,479
the West of Europe. And that changes things too, because

1318
01:25:01,199 --> 01:25:06,760
if basically every nation state it's it's national economy, you know,

1319
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,760
accounting for comparative advantage as they can be said to

1320
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:14,680
exist in microeconomics, is engaged in basically the same kind

1321
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:21,439
of business, financial concerns and financial financial houses that service them,

1322
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:29,039
they basically start gambling on the same imperatives and futures

1323
01:25:29,079 --> 01:25:32,840
and outcomes, you know. And that's got the effect of

1324
01:25:35,359 --> 01:25:38,920
not just driving up the cost of doing business, but

1325
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:47,520
you know it it allows for a certain homogenization of

1326
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:55,039
how of how of how capital functions at continental scale,

1327
01:25:57,119 --> 01:26:00,039
you know. And to be clear too, this is I

1328
01:26:00,079 --> 01:26:03,000
think I'm made this point before, probably not polemically, but

1329
01:26:05,399 --> 01:26:10,239
going back to the Middle Ages through the late modern period.

1330
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,000
This is the big reason why kings fell out with Jews.

1331
01:26:14,279 --> 01:26:18,680
It wasn't because Jews don't like white people and their commies.

1332
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:23,920
It was I'm in a hawk to these people, and

1333
01:26:24,039 --> 01:26:29,000
the big I'm paying them is positively usurious, and I

1334
01:26:29,119 --> 01:26:31,439
think I'll not pay them and I'll banish them from

1335
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:32,079
my kingdom.

1336
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 1: You know.

1337
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 2: That's what it came down to, and that is the

1338
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:43,600
effect of you've basically gotta handle your banking needs by

1339
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:49,199
proxy through some other friendly government, or you've got to

1340
01:26:49,239 --> 01:26:54,239
stake out some sort of path of autarchy and a

1341
01:26:54,359 --> 01:26:57,039
crew massive At that time, I would have been in

1342
01:26:57,119 --> 01:27:00,439
gold and silver reserves and try to go it alone.

1343
01:27:02,159 --> 01:27:07,640
This had a profoundly negative effect and your ability to

1344
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:11,600
do business if you did that. Okay, but that's that

1345
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:18,680
was the main catalyst for Jews being banished from the court.

1346
01:27:20,319 --> 01:27:23,840
It wasn't people deciding that Jews are bad because I'm

1347
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,520
based so I don't want them here anymore. There was

1348
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,560
absolutely peasant revolts and programs against Jews that were born

1349
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:39,560
of hostility and Jewish financial and labor concerns. Abusing those

1350
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:44,359
people that numbercent happened, but at the level of royals

1351
01:27:44,399 --> 01:27:49,199
and Edict's formally banishing Jews from these territories. It was

1352
01:27:49,239 --> 01:27:52,960
what I just said, it was. It wasn't this fantasy

1353
01:27:53,119 --> 01:27:59,600
of what people seem to think, and you can't corral

1354
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:06,520
that new some sort of common paradigm with the current

1355
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,279
situation or as things have been since you know, the

1356
01:28:11,279 --> 01:28:22,039
close of the nineteenth century or whatever. The UH. This

1357
01:28:22,159 --> 01:28:28,279
started coming somewhat to an end, at least in you know,

1358
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:35,439
and by the time Germany was united, the whole schema

1359
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:42,239
of how national military endeavors were funded it changed. But

1360
01:28:42,399 --> 01:28:47,439
in a lot of Europe this endured really until the

1361
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:54,479
Great War, the UH, the the Austria, the Austro Prussian

1362
01:28:54,560 --> 01:29:00,479
War of eighteen sixty six. One of the big bank concerned,

1363
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,000
one of the big Prussian Jewish banking concerns, was a

1364
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:10,680
bleak Roter, and bleek Roter himself, gersanvan bleek Roter. He

1365
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:18,079
and Bismarck had this fairly tight business relationship contemptions of

1366
01:29:18,159 --> 01:29:25,039
the may have been otherwise, and one of the things

1367
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:32,000
that sort of solidified their partnership. You know, Bismarck was

1368
01:29:32,079 --> 01:29:36,359
not he was not some that the ights Consler was

1369
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:40,000
not some sort of absolute monarch or something. He had

1370
01:29:40,039 --> 01:29:45,359
to appeal the parliament if he wanted to fund any

1371
01:29:45,399 --> 01:29:51,039
kind of military activity. And when the Parliament cut the

1372
01:29:51,159 --> 01:30:01,039
purse strings Bismarck, he made his case to somewhat prescious

1373
01:30:01,079 --> 01:30:03,399
traditional allies, and when they weren't biting, he went to

1374
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:08,479
bleak Roter and uh essentially found himself in a hat

1375
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:19,319
you know, the uh, the the Jewish Berliner, you know,

1376
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:23,640
banking structure that'll do the last time that happened at scale.

1377
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,800
And this is one thing that's interesting, Like if you

1378
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,039
read the Numberg laws and if you read kind of

1379
01:30:30,119 --> 01:30:35,199
the what what if you read like what Gerbel was

1380
01:30:35,239 --> 01:30:39,199
writing in his diaries about like what the cadres were saying.

1381
01:30:40,399 --> 01:30:43,279
You know, this was a very political act. It was

1382
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,520
we're gonna get Jews out of the civil service, We're

1383
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,399
gonna get them out of the professions. You know, we're

1384
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:52,520
gonna we're basically gonna strip them of political rights. And

1385
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:57,399
if they try to mobilize, you know, for example, uh,

1386
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:04,119
some kpdre and like sick them on our people in

1387
01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:06,079
Munich or whatever, we're gonna we're gonna throw them in

1388
01:31:06,159 --> 01:31:09,760
a concentration camp. There's no talk of Jews are not

1389
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:14,119
allowed to conduct financial business because at the level we're

1390
01:31:14,159 --> 01:31:17,359
talking about, that wasn't really an issue. You know, It's

1391
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:20,800
not like it's not like in Berlin in nineteen thirty four,

1392
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:26,439
if I needed a small business loan to like open

1393
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:32,199
my restaurant or to you know, by like building tools

1394
01:31:32,199 --> 01:31:34,399
for my construction firm. It's not like it was like

1395
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:39,239
appealing to some Jewish guy and I had to basically

1396
01:31:39,319 --> 01:31:45,720
cowtow whatever he wanted to get, you know, like some

1397
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,119
sort of line of equity. And I think people must

1398
01:31:49,199 --> 01:31:54,000
understand that, you know, their absolutely Jews actually did, absolutely

1399
01:31:54,119 --> 01:31:58,279
did wield financial power, particularly the UK and the USA,

1400
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,319
but not in the way we're talking about in you know,

1401
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:07,399
Westphalian Europe. Sociologically it played out totally differently, you know,

1402
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:14,479
and it was a political problem in the German Reich,

1403
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,680
it wasn't. It wasn't an economics problem or or a

1404
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:25,439
banking problem. You know, I'd even argue too. I mean

1405
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:32,199
the case I'm the first to stipulate, you know, a

1406
01:32:32,279 --> 01:32:35,800
lot of America's involvement in World War One, they quite

1407
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:40,680
literally was Wall Street having the Wilson administration by the

1408
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,920
balls and demanding interventions. They didn't eat a billion dollar

1409
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:51,119
loss based on this unsecured line of credit was being

1410
01:32:51,159 --> 01:32:53,520
afforded to the British Crown. But I mean that was

1411
01:32:55,039 --> 01:32:58,920
JP Morgan was absolutely a war profiteering firm, But this

1412
01:32:59,119 --> 01:33:02,880
wasn't Jews manipulating an outcome from Wall Street. J K.

1413
01:33:03,039 --> 01:33:05,680
Morgan didn't care how the how it shook out. They

1414
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,279
wanted their money, you know. It so happened that they

1415
01:33:08,359 --> 01:33:11,319
bet on the wrong horse, you know, So that's important too.

1416
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,880
It was uh, and and and and again that's an

1417
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:18,479
odd case in the late modern era. I mean, often

1418
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:22,800
things about the First World War were strained, but that's

1419
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:26,479
important too. Say, I'm sure there are buttle is going

1420
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:30,039
to be coming from some body in the comments insisting

1421
01:33:30,119 --> 01:33:35,840
that insisting that U. Wilson was owned by Jews because

1422
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:41,119
of JP Morgan wanted its money. But uh, you know,

1423
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:51,239
and this is uh, you know, traditionally too, there was

1424
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:57,359
sometimes formally sometimes just the factoh, these European peace treaties

1425
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:04,960
that establish national boundaries and rights therein, and these territorial

1426
01:34:05,079 --> 01:34:11,760
swaps and everything else that characterized Europe for centuries. There

1427
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:15,159
was pretty much always some sort of Jewish representation on

1428
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:20,840
deck when these things were fleshed out, and that by

1429
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,199
the end of the nineteenth century that basically come to

1430
01:34:23,279 --> 01:34:27,520
an end, you know, And one of the rent makes

1431
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:31,680
the point too, I mean, aside from the political structure

1432
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:35,640
and the characteristics that derive from that structure that was

1433
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:42,720
emergent as Europe pruly entered late modernity, you know, as

1434
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:49,399
wars became total culminating in World War One, the metrics

1435
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:53,000
became victory or death for waging war. You're not gonna

1436
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,800
have You're not gonna have some financial representatives on deck

1437
01:34:56,359 --> 01:35:00,159
running unofficial diplomacy with your enemy as to how are

1438
01:35:00,159 --> 01:35:03,880
both going to kind of make sure are our economic

1439
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:09,760
concerns aren't aren't devastated by conflict when you're trying to

1440
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:15,079
annihilate your enemy in absolute capacities, you know, you're trying

1441
01:35:15,119 --> 01:35:18,359
to physically annihilate him and his country even occupy it

1442
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:26,399
and then essentially either rape what remains figuratively and literally

1443
01:35:27,359 --> 01:35:32,439
or reconstituted as you know, a kind of destination market,

1444
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:37,960
fear manufacturers and financial instruments like You're not You're not

1445
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:41,479
gonna have some Jewish banking representative on deck from the

1446
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:44,399
enemy country to like negotiate with your people. I mean,

1447
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:50,479
that's that's absurd obviously, you know, and that's important too.

1448
01:35:52,159 --> 01:35:57,279
Nascent globalism, you know, the the limited globalism that was

1449
01:35:57,359 --> 01:36:02,600
emergent by over one basically precluded that kind of stuff,

1450
01:36:03,239 --> 01:36:03,399
you know.

1451
01:36:04,119 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 1: So it's.

1452
01:36:06,319 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 2: It's, uh, it's ridiculous to talk about the Jewish financial

1453
01:36:11,119 --> 01:36:13,560
power in the twentieth and twenty verth centuries is driving

1454
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,760
from banking. That's not what it derives from.

1455
01:36:17,359 --> 01:36:17,520
Speaker 4: You know.

1456
01:36:20,239 --> 01:36:26,399
Speaker 2: Interestingly too, I mean back when during the the Merkel counselorship,

1457
01:36:27,359 --> 01:36:32,039
you know when famously when when these Wall Street types,

1458
01:36:34,159 --> 01:36:37,640
including Goldman Sachs, they were trying to they're basically trying

1459
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:43,520
to break the industrial national economics of the Buddhis Republic,

1460
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:49,159
and they approached these German banking concerns, which were largely

1461
01:36:49,359 --> 01:36:53,640
Goyish and I'm talking like in the two thousands and

1462
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,479
uh when they tried to get this is ABZ pre

1463
01:36:56,680 --> 01:37:00,520
two thousand and eight crash. Goldman Sachs is trying to

1464
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:06,079
get the Germans to sign on with funding these uh

1465
01:37:07,399 --> 01:37:14,000
financial instruments and basically put their you know, integrate retirement

1466
01:37:14,119 --> 01:37:16,479
funds and welfare outlays with like four to one K

1467
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:20,359
type structures and like and like the whole like German

1468
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,560
bank community like laughed in their face, like we don't

1469
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,560
invest in derivatives? What's wrong with you? You know what

1470
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:25,880
I mean?

1471
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: Like it's.

1472
01:37:30,399 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 2: I mean that speaks for itself. You know that this

1473
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:39,520
is a Germany is literally an occupied country. It's it's

1474
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:45,279
being subjected to ethnic cleansing by social engineering. But the

1475
01:37:45,359 --> 01:37:49,319
indigenous financial structure they like laugh at Wall Street when

1476
01:37:49,359 --> 01:37:51,399
they try and get him in on these like Shylock. Uh,

1477
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:59,800
you know, con shell games at scale, you know, with

1478
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:05,319
respect to financial derivatives. I mean, frankly, I would have

1479
01:38:05,319 --> 01:38:07,039
been surprised for it any other way. I mean, now,

1480
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:11,600
the the Europeans are literally mentally insane people now, I

1481
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:15,720
mean like you can't they're parently irrational.

1482
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 1: But uh, you know I when uh.

1483
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 2: There was when when when some kind of basic reason

1484
01:38:24,039 --> 01:38:28,399
it's still prevailed even a messtonagoan occupation, you know, I

1485
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:36,239
mean that that speaks for itself. That you know, banking

1486
01:38:36,319 --> 01:38:41,199
concerns are particularly uh on the side of financial capital,

1487
01:38:41,319 --> 01:38:44,920
you know, not commercial banking. Obviously, it was very very

1488
01:38:45,039 --> 01:38:50,279
discreet from whatever the political situation was and the political

1489
01:38:50,319 --> 01:38:55,239
culture was, and the duras this day because in uh,

1490
01:38:56,800 --> 01:39:02,399
in some basic sense, you know. So there was this, uh,

1491
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:07,720
there's there's this odd contradiction where on the one hand,

1492
01:39:09,359 --> 01:39:15,439
this uh, this uh Jewish diaspora which existed in terms

1493
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:22,760
of basic hostility with indigenous European majorities. The thing that

1494
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:29,079
built their power base was their peculiar insinuation in the

1495
01:39:29,199 --> 01:39:35,520
financial affairs and life at court. But what ultimately created

1496
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:41,359
this terrible and catastrophic enmity between the two populations was

1497
01:39:42,239 --> 01:39:45,039
an almost exclusively political matter that didn't really.

1498
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:45,680
Speaker 1: Have anything to do with.

1499
01:39:47,319 --> 01:39:51,279
Speaker 2: With high finance, you know. And uh, this isn't a

1500
01:39:51,359 --> 01:39:56,000
trivial point or something that generally give interest to academics.

1501
01:39:56,119 --> 01:40:03,640
It's actually important. But uh, moving on, I find my

1502
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:09,840
place here, you know. And this is one of the

1503
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:14,079
reasons why in the era, the era being you know,

1504
01:40:14,119 --> 01:40:19,279
the nineteen thirties and forties and then beyond the Cold

1505
01:40:19,319 --> 01:40:22,279
War and even today this pops up in historical discussions

1506
01:40:25,119 --> 01:40:29,439
people attack revisionists or people they perceive as being sympathetic

1507
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:34,560
to fascism of history or whatever, saying like, well, how

1508
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:39,439
can how can you quote blame Jews for revolutionary communism

1509
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:45,760
if they're these if they're these arch capitalists manipulators. I mean,

1510
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:48,760
that's a false dichotomy anyway, but also it's not one

1511
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:55,319
or the other. And again by the twentieth century, you know,

1512
01:40:55,479 --> 01:41:03,359
other than at great scale, we're talking about massive fortunes.

1513
01:41:05,199 --> 01:41:08,800
You know, in these consolidated financial concerns, Jews really weren't

1514
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:16,720
insinuated into finance. Erie Seleskin makes the point, you know,

1515
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:18,880
he's a guy who wrote the Jewish Century. He's an

1516
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:25,479
interesting scholar. You know, obviously he's a you know, he's

1517
01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:30,279
he's descended from pale settlement people. You know, so it

1518
01:41:30,359 --> 01:41:35,800
can't be said that he's just some constitutional anti Semite

1519
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:42,119
or something. You know, he's got an anthropological in the

1520
01:41:42,199 --> 01:41:44,880
traditional sense, you know, drawing upon the same kind of

1521
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:51,920
methodology as people like Doumazil. You know, he talks about

1522
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:55,680
the Jewish conceptual horizon, how they view themselves, you know,

1523
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:58,479
as a people, and how they view the world outside themselves,

1524
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,760
and the p symbols that constitute that worldview. You know,

1525
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,760
he's though, he's the guy who coined the phrase Mercurians

1526
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:12,119
to describe the Asganasm and Apollonians to describe these European

1527
01:42:12,239 --> 01:42:16,319
populations that you are descended from a warrior, yeomanry, and

1528
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:20,039
I identify with those kinds of values and things. You know,

1529
01:42:20,119 --> 01:42:24,239
he very much borrows in the trifunctional hypothesis. But you know,

1530
01:42:25,239 --> 01:42:34,680
the Mercourian view or cultural perspective or you know orientation,

1531
01:42:36,199 --> 01:42:40,520
existential orientation. We're gonna look at it that way. It's

1532
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:43,720
not reducible to a belief in money and the power

1533
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:47,560
and advocacy of money or something. You know, it's uh,

1534
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:52,560
it's got an emphasis on abstractions as the way of

1535
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:57,720
doing business in lieu of agricultural activities. You know what

1536
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:05,199
kind of profit teering and negotiation sometimes which is perfectnesce

1537
01:43:05,199 --> 01:43:09,920
in a hostile to liberally in lieu of warfare. You know,

1538
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:19,520
an idea of the historical process as a being kind

1539
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:25,119
of related to concrete particulars and intrigues they're in, rather

1540
01:43:25,239 --> 01:43:27,399
than you know, a kind of narrative hole that.

1541
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:29,159
Speaker 4: Is a.

1542
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 2: Exists under a you know, the Christian God obviously, you know,

1543
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:42,399
and Stesley makes the point too, or sled Scheme makes

1544
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:47,840
the point too. At the turn of the twentieth century,

1545
01:43:49,319 --> 01:43:54,439
the total population of European Jewry was about eight zero

1546
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:58,279
point seven million, and over five million of these people

1547
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:01,199
lived in the Russian Empire, where they were about four

1548
01:44:01,319 --> 01:44:05,800
or five percent of the population, and most of the

1549
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:11,640
Russian Jews lived in the pale settlement and residency laws

1550
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:17,880
restricted them. There there were some slim minority who were

1551
01:44:19,119 --> 01:44:24,439
farmers or factory workers like scattered about. But you know,

1552
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:31,560
his point was that breaking down these demographic realities, you know,

1553
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:35,479
you're you're not talking about something like cosmopolitan group of people.

1554
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:40,079
You're talking about a really kind of primitive, almost backwards

1555
01:44:40,239 --> 01:44:47,119
living people, you know, in majoritarian terms, you know. So

1556
01:44:47,239 --> 01:44:54,520
the idea that these this kind of cultural mileu was

1557
01:44:54,600 --> 01:45:01,640
giving rise this kind of worldly, uh conspiratorily sophisticated perspective

1558
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:06,359
is kind of nonsense. You're talking about very basic hostility, okay,

1559
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:18,000
from people who mostly were kind of incestuously insular, you know,

1560
01:45:18,119 --> 01:45:25,880
and like within that uh kind of strange existence developing

1561
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:30,800
an increasing and curating, like an increasingly violent hostility to

1562
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:39,039
the world without you know, then that reality seems totally

1563
01:45:39,079 --> 01:45:43,520
at odds with the kind of caricature that exists in

1564
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:50,720
people's minds of jewelry, you know. And Selenskin makes the

1565
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:54,239
point too that this a major component of them kind

1566
01:45:54,239 --> 01:46:01,760
of home mercorean conceptual horizon. It's contingent on the outside

1567
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:07,319
world retaining this kind of strangeness, you know, and the

1568
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:11,520
cliche is that you know, you're asking us it's this

1569
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:16,359
paranoiac tendency and not just dislake for outsiders, but this

1570
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:22,560
idea that the outside world's dangerous. You know, that's very

1571
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:29,399
much the source of you know, internal cultural life here.

1572
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,560
You know, this this is the opposite of a sophisticated

1573
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:45,800
worldly perspective. You know, it's uh, it's it's incredibly it's

1574
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:50,439
a cultivated ignorance, you know, like it really it really is,

1575
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:53,880
you know, and and that that breathes on pathologies too.

1576
01:46:54,039 --> 01:46:56,520
So what of the sort of the cultural pole stars

1577
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:01,600
and and and psychological meta tricks in terms of you know,

1578
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:05,800
historical memory. You know, oh, the Cossacks are programming us.

1579
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:08,640
You know, there's there's a World War two, is a

1580
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:12,680
world conspiracy against Jews. You know, like this kind of

1581
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:20,239
stuff would be laughable were it not you know, enshrine

1582
01:47:20,279 --> 01:47:29,119
into this kind of reigning ideology of you know, that

1583
01:47:29,279 --> 01:47:32,960
that that oppresses people at scale. You know, if you

1584
01:47:34,399 --> 01:47:37,479
if you remove that aspect of it and the historical

1585
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:41,119
significance of it and the danger of it, you you'd

1586
01:47:41,159 --> 01:47:44,640
pity and laugh at people who think that way, you know,

1587
01:47:48,159 --> 01:47:54,399
and that uh, you know, to be clear, there's kind

1588
01:47:54,399 --> 01:48:02,720
of a naturally built in, almost commissarial structure. Very few

1589
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:04,840
people talk about this. I think it's because a lot

1590
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:10,279
of Americans don't really have a taste for serious theology

1591
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:19,319
and anthropological characteristics that are related therein you know, the

1592
01:48:19,399 --> 01:48:25,560
degree to which Jewish society became this sort of fractious

1593
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:31,600
remnant of a once complete cultural paradigm after seventy a

1594
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:36,479
d really can't be overstated. Like this idea of the

1595
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:42,079
synagogue being the center of cultural life and these these

1596
01:48:42,199 --> 01:48:46,720
rabbinic scholars who aren't priests, and I'm not sure people

1597
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:51,760
really understand that without a temple, there's no priesthood. Without

1598
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:55,199
a sacrificing priesthood, there is no Judaism as is understood

1599
01:48:55,199 --> 01:49:02,560
in biblical terms. But a rabbi is basic we he's

1600
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:06,920
kind of one part minister, but he's more almost kind

1601
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:09,079
of a scholar of the law, you know, like a

1602
01:49:09,199 --> 01:49:17,800
juristic professorial type. You know, having men like that be

1603
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:22,680
kind of the cultural backbone, and in lieu of a

1604
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:28,359
temple or a church, having a synagogue, which is basically

1605
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:35,800
which is basically an academic and political institution be the

1606
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:40,560
center of humanitarian life. That's very strange, you know, and

1607
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:48,840
that's also why, that's also why the kind of two

1608
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:54,239
pole stars of status among the Asganaism. We're being a

1609
01:49:54,399 --> 01:49:57,920
learned man in Judaism, and again not not a priest

1610
01:49:58,039 --> 01:50:01,000
and not a and not a kind of not a

1611
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:05,880
you know, like a learned man in Islam. You know what,

1612
01:50:06,279 --> 01:50:09,159
people are gonna quotally call him mullah, which is improper

1613
01:50:09,279 --> 01:50:11,760
for a lot of reasons. But that's something different too.

1614
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:16,079
You're gonna think of a you know, these guys in

1615
01:50:16,159 --> 01:50:18,800
places like Iran, you know, and you find it across

1616
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:22,479
the sectarian divide like Sharsuni. You're kind of aspire to

1617
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:24,600
be like a learned man in Islam. That's kind of

1618
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,119
a different thing that's strong almost upon you know, like

1619
01:50:27,199 --> 01:50:29,399
a tradition of mystics that's common to a lot of

1620
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:36,039
these a lot of these uh Islamic cultures. Like I'm

1621
01:50:36,039 --> 01:50:38,079
not I'm not saying that's a lofty thing to aspire

1622
01:50:38,159 --> 01:50:41,479
to either, but it's a different thing. You know. Uh,

1623
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:44,680
there's nothing there's there's there's nothing mystical about a Rabbi,

1624
01:50:45,039 --> 01:50:50,760
there's nothing you know, it's uh like I said, it's

1625
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:58,079
fundamentally commissarial, you know. And uh so that role, you know,

1626
01:50:58,239 --> 01:51:02,000
being kind of coveted or like being able to crew money.

1627
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,640
You know, that's like however people feel about that and

1628
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:09,920
whether that's you know, moral or not. It's a strange

1629
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:13,159
thing to assign that kind of profound cultural value. Do

1630
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:17,680
like most most developed culture is kind of view with

1631
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:21,279
the in terms of the opposite, you know, like, oh,

1632
01:51:21,319 --> 01:51:25,319
he's a pious man, he foregoes an interest in you know,

1633
01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:30,039
material things for their own sake. You know. So this

1634
01:51:30,159 --> 01:51:32,960
is this is all very strange. And again the way

1635
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:36,399
you understand it is that these tendencies derive from this

1636
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:40,520
self imposed isolation and kind of ignorance of the outside

1637
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:43,119
world and this sort of like incestuous and celerity. It

1638
01:51:43,159 --> 01:51:46,520
doesn't derive from the kind of like cynical worldiness that

1639
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,600
comes from you know, running things and you know, knowing

1640
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:53,520
about the world and being urbane. That's preposterous. It's it's

1641
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:58,800
it's literally the opposite, you know.

1642
01:51:58,920 --> 01:51:59,560
Speaker 1: And this is a.

1643
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:05,079
Speaker 2: And this is one of the things too, where once

1644
01:52:05,199 --> 01:52:12,520
that kind of interdependence that existed between European elites and

1645
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:17,359
Jewish elites based again on kind of the how politics

1646
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:20,000
was done at court and things like. Once that I

1647
01:52:20,079 --> 01:52:26,439
went away, you're talking about populations that are situated really

1648
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:32,199
as vicious enemies. And not only was there no longer

1649
01:52:32,279 --> 01:52:36,800
any sort of interdependence that insinuated a kind of common

1650
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:44,720
objectivity about one another, if not respect, you know, once

1651
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:48,560
that went away, something horrible was going to happen. And

1652
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:54,159
that's exactly what did happen, you know. And to be

1653
01:52:54,239 --> 01:52:56,239
clear too, I don't know if I got on this before,

1654
01:52:56,319 --> 01:53:01,880
but like Skin makes the point, you know, most well,

1655
01:53:02,159 --> 01:53:05,960
most Jews didn't even speak the languages of the people

1656
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:10,680
they lived among, you know, like Ukrainian Jews spoke Yiddish.

1657
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:14,760
They didn't speak Ukrainian or Russian. You know, if you

1658
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:18,640
went to a if you went to a Jewish village

1659
01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:22,760
in Latvia, even when that was situated you know, amiss,

1660
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:25,079
you know, like a larger constellation of towns or something.

1661
01:53:25,119 --> 01:53:28,439
These people didn't speak Latvian. They didn't eat the same foods,

1662
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:30,439
they didn't go to the same places. They looked at

1663
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:34,359
each other as dirty, you know, as similarly, like unless

1664
01:53:34,399 --> 01:53:39,359
you were some sort of linguistic scholar or something, or

1665
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:43,159
just by accident of being immersed in some sort of

1666
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:49,920
truly sort of cosmopolitan and multi racial city like casperg Vienna.

1667
01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:54,560
You know, Nanjis didn't speak Yiddish, like why would they,

1668
01:53:55,640 --> 01:54:03,119
you know, so there was It is possible, in late modernity,

1669
01:54:03,279 --> 01:54:06,680
perhaps even especially in late modernity, to literally live next

1670
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:10,279
door to a people and remain totally insular from them.

1671
01:54:10,399 --> 01:54:11,760
And I think a lot of people, I mean, that's

1672
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:15,399
one of the reasons why the whole narrative of globalism

1673
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:18,840
a scale fails. I mean that that's starting to fade out.

1674
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:21,439
People don't really you're you're you're finding those kinds of

1675
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:28,399
appeals to you know, moral platitudes and social propaganda. That

1676
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:31,479
that's that's becoming less and less common. But this idea

1677
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:36,359
that oh, in the modern uh, under modern conditions, you know,

1678
01:54:36,439 --> 01:54:38,720
you live around over kinds of people. It's like yeah,

1679
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:41,399
and people got their face and the screen and like

1680
01:54:41,479 --> 01:54:44,640
they hate each other, you know, like it's not you know,

1681
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:46,520
you're not going out to like work on a farm

1682
01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:49,439
with like a you know, all these great people who

1683
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:52,039
work there with you or something or you know, and

1684
01:54:52,159 --> 01:54:54,640
incrasingly you're not even like you're not even passing Randall's

1685
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:57,399
on the street anymore if you don't want to, you know,

1686
01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:59,279
I mean I kind of have to don't of a car,

1687
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:03,640
you know, Like, but in uh, the uh, the degree

1688
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:10,439
to which, even prior to information age innovations, you could

1689
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:14,319
entire communities could avoid each other while being situated two

1690
01:55:14,399 --> 01:55:19,239
miles apart. I mean that was the reality. You know,

1691
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:33,520
it's the uh, but that's you know, and it's obviously

1692
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:43,680
this is a bit tangential, but it's related, you know, uh,

1693
01:55:47,079 --> 01:55:49,399
and it's particularly on point it needs to be this

1694
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:56,960
kind of ongoing discussion about the reason for this profound

1695
01:55:57,319 --> 01:56:01,439
and catastrophic enmity of the game to Russia. I mean

1696
01:56:01,479 --> 01:56:05,239
they agree to which the reader asanasm hate the Russians

1697
01:56:05,319 --> 01:56:09,800
can't be overstated, you know. And even even when you

1698
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:14,560
read this this kind of yeah van Mishem type propaganda,

1699
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:18,840
like even within their own narrative, they say stuff like,

1700
01:56:19,359 --> 01:56:23,760
you know, Germany was a civilized and culture land and

1701
01:56:24,479 --> 01:56:28,119
you know, Jewish blind Perlinners, you know, were patriotic Germans.

1702
01:56:28,439 --> 01:56:31,479
You know, if if we were gonna suffer a horrible

1703
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:34,920
program anywhere, we'd have thought it would be Russia. I mean,

1704
01:56:35,119 --> 01:56:42,039
Russia is the enemy to the Ashcanasm, you know, and uh,

1705
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:48,720
I like, uh, you know that peace Stalin's willing executioners.

1706
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:50,840
It was originally a it was a paper that Kevin

1707
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:56,359
McDonald drafted, and then he expanded into this uh not

1708
01:56:56,479 --> 01:57:01,159
quite book length essay, but the most of that piece

1709
01:57:01,359 --> 01:57:04,279
it's a review and a breakdown of sleds Skeen's book,

1710
01:57:05,079 --> 01:57:08,600
because this is a huge aspect of what sleds Keen

1711
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:14,560
talks about, you know, and he fully acknowledges a huge

1712
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:18,000
amount of Jews joined the Cheka and they set about

1713
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:24,439
to massacre their Slavic neighbors who they viewed as oppressing them.

1714
01:57:25,159 --> 01:57:25,279
Speaker 4: You know.

1715
01:57:25,399 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 2: They hated these people, and Stalin exploited that, you know.

1716
01:57:34,119 --> 01:57:36,399
And I don't know how anybody can look at how

1717
01:57:36,439 --> 01:57:40,640
the Soviet the Russian Revolution developed. You literally had the

1718
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:46,199
Jewish population locking and loading, slaughtering these people that they hated,

1719
01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:53,960
massacring their priests, destroying their churches, trying to wipe them

1720
01:57:54,000 --> 01:58:02,279
out as a culture. And then when these criminal personalities

1721
01:58:02,359 --> 01:58:05,359
like Stalin after kind of the cycle like killing it

1722
01:58:05,479 --> 01:58:09,840
run its course. And after the Second World War and

1723
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:13,039
the emergency wrought by the pass, Like what does Stalin

1724
01:58:13,159 --> 01:58:16,359
do you being hanging and purging all of them because

1725
01:58:16,399 --> 01:58:19,319
they were too dangerous to allow to survive in this

1726
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:25,920
kind of socialistic empire. That derived it's what you know,

1727
01:58:26,039 --> 01:58:30,399
driving its internal cohesion and its legitimacy from this claim

1728
01:58:30,479 --> 01:58:33,239
that you know, the Russians are the first among the nationalities.

1729
01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:36,399
Like how anybody can look at that and be like

1730
01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:41,560
Prutin likes the Jews and Israel in Russia are allies.

1731
01:58:42,359 --> 01:58:44,840
I mean, like you're you don't lose reality if you

1732
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:47,680
think that way, or I mean, you're so fucking stupid,

1733
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:51,720
I you probably are at risk of fretting to breathe,

1734
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:55,479
you know, and and then dying, you know, to say nothing.

1735
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:59,680
The fact that the Soviet Union was literally at war

1736
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:03,640
for Israel with Israel for decades. The Russians went to

1737
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:09,359
war against Israel again in twenty eleven and then as

1738
01:59:09,439 --> 01:59:12,880
zion As the government was installed in Ukraine, it receeded

1739
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:17,800
to assault the Russian Federation. Like this isn't esoteric or

1740
01:59:19,359 --> 01:59:24,680
crazy stuff that requires a lifetime of study and attention

1741
01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:28,720
to subtle nuanced to to understand. Like if you look

1742
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:34,520
at a political map and if you turn on legacy

1743
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:38,319
media programming for five minutes. This is what jumps out

1744
01:59:38,319 --> 01:59:40,920
at you, like, even if you're not an intelligent person.

1745
01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:47,840
You know, that's why I just I refuse to engage

1746
01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:53,079
with people who say such things anymore because some things

1747
01:59:53,119 --> 01:59:54,640
are too stupid do acknowledge.

1748
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 1: But that's.

1749
01:59:58,920 --> 02:00:00,880
Speaker 2: You know, that's that's the long and short of it.

1750
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:03,399
I mean, don't get me wrong, I've got my own

1751
02:00:03,479 --> 02:00:16,039
theories on geopolitical affairs, and obviously I'm no environmentalist type

1752
02:00:16,039 --> 02:00:22,760
of person. But the reality is that this voracious appetite

1753
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:32,000
for consumption and the conversion of you know, natural racism

1754
02:00:32,079 --> 02:00:36,279
and commodities, in the in the in the usable value

1755
02:00:36,279 --> 02:00:41,920
added things this has. You know, there's a limited caring

1756
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:46,399
audacity here. And one of the reasons America is the

1757
02:00:46,520 --> 02:00:52,920
loci of world power is because it's it's it retains,

1758
02:00:53,159 --> 02:00:56,760
you know, what remains that what remains the bounty of

1759
02:00:56,920 --> 02:01:05,319
nature is situated here being rapidly depleted. The remainder, the

1760
02:01:05,439 --> 02:01:10,279
other remainder of the world's natural resources are in Central Asia.

1761
02:01:12,199 --> 02:01:20,199
You know, uh, oil, natural gas, arable land, you know,

1762
02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:29,960
all all these things. Central Asia, the Russian heartland, it

1763
02:01:30,079 --> 02:01:34,000
doesn't quite have what we do here. But it's compared

1764
02:01:34,039 --> 02:01:38,399
to the rest of the planet, it's a tremendous wealth

1765
02:01:38,479 --> 02:01:42,880
of resources. And uh so there is that incentive to

1766
02:01:43,239 --> 02:01:46,399
to break up the Russian Federation and be able to

1767
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:49,039
access and exploit those things.

1768
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:50,960
Speaker 4: You know.

1769
02:01:53,079 --> 02:01:55,000
Speaker 2: I mean that this this goes way back. So that's

1770
02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:58,000
that's always a consideration. But that is that is far

1771
02:01:58,119 --> 02:02:04,399
from the primary catalyst for the you know, adopting any

1772
02:02:04,399 --> 02:02:08,560
irrational war footing towards the Russian Federation has happened in

1773
02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:11,560
nineteen ninety nine and plus two. If that was the

1774
02:02:11,680 --> 02:02:16,720
only if that if that, if that was the only objective,

1775
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:19,840
you will that's not that you don't go about it

1776
02:02:19,960 --> 02:02:24,880
by waging some irrational crusade against the Russian Federation and

1777
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:28,800
transforming Ukraine into a kind of suicide torpedo. That's not

1778
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:32,239
how you do it, you know. So it doesn't it

1779
02:02:32,319 --> 02:02:37,479
doesn't defeat or about the proposition to point out, you know,

1780
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:41,000
well it you know, these uh some of these energy

1781
02:02:41,039 --> 02:02:44,239
concerns are trying to break Russian state control as far

1782
02:02:44,359 --> 02:02:48,079
back as like you know, ninety nine, two thousand. Yeah,

1783
02:02:48,159 --> 02:02:50,720
that that that did happen. That is happening, but like

1784
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:56,880
it's not one of the other. You know, that's why

1785
02:02:57,000 --> 02:03:05,960
too the when the Bush Baker Plan, the Bush Baker

1786
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:10,960
Gorbachev model for the post Soviet era, you know, like

1787
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:16,920
I said before, it's really interesting because in part that

1788
02:03:17,119 --> 02:03:21,920
plan called for the Soviet Union to remain until full

1789
02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:25,359
disarmament had been realized, and then for the transition to

1790
02:03:25,439 --> 02:03:29,079
something like the Common of Independent States, this kind of

1791
02:03:29,199 --> 02:03:36,159
devolved federalism, but with the supremacy of Moscow as the

1792
02:03:36,199 --> 02:03:43,119
political core remaining. But Rumsfeld, Cheney, a bunch of the

1793
02:03:43,199 --> 02:03:50,720
PNAC guys, they their big notion was to break the

1794
02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:56,159
Soviet Union essentially into three pieces, you know, like the

1795
02:03:56,239 --> 02:04:00,479
Siberian East or like, so what was Soviet of Asia?

1796
02:04:01,239 --> 02:04:09,560
Then there was like basically, uh, the Greater Moscow Leningrad

1797
02:04:11,279 --> 02:04:18,800
kind of constellation of uh of of territory, and then

1798
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:22,520
uh like Ukraine and like Belarus and like Western Russia.

1799
02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:25,600
You know that that was kind of how it was

1800
02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:28,760
supposed to break down, and uh, some sort of some

1801
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:31,640
sort of cipher like Yelson would be kind of like

1802
02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:37,359
the dictator of you know, like American Commissariat Moscow there

1803
02:04:37,439 --> 02:04:41,399
to the EU would be able to essentially cannibalize Ukraine,

1804
02:04:43,199 --> 02:04:48,560
you know, uh, with you know, America, and the driver's

1805
02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:53,880
seat obviously is the occupying element. And then uh, the uh,

1806
02:04:55,239 --> 02:04:58,840
the Soviet Far East would what had beened like the

1807
02:04:58,920 --> 02:05:03,800
Soviet Far East that basically be like the territorial hedge

1808
02:05:05,359 --> 02:05:10,000
against China, and that also be uh the origin point

1809
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:14,279
of deployment into Central Asia and stuff, you know, in

1810
02:05:14,359 --> 02:05:20,680
the subcontinent, what have you. And they would also facilitate

1811
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:24,760
pressure being brought to Baron Iran and stuff that's really

1812
02:05:24,840 --> 02:05:26,560
interesting to contemplate.

1813
02:05:27,319 --> 02:05:33,239
Speaker 1: Well, well, the people who think that that Putin works

1814
02:05:33,319 --> 02:05:36,800
for the Jews would have to believe that he basically

1815
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:39,920
is doing what Yeltsin was supposed to do as far

1816
02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:43,239
as p Neck was the and which means that if

1817
02:05:43,279 --> 02:05:46,159
he works for the Jews, he works for America. Yause,

1818
02:05:46,199 --> 02:05:48,640
I mean, if if we're zog, that means that that

1819
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:51,960
means that Putin works for the United States. Is the

1820
02:05:52,520 --> 02:05:53,399
United States government?

1821
02:05:54,039 --> 02:05:56,119
Speaker 2: The same people, like I said, like, I don't I

1822
02:05:56,680 --> 02:05:59,960
haven't followed him lately. Maybe he's become more center.

1823
02:06:00,319 --> 02:06:00,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1824
02:06:01,439 --> 02:06:03,560
Speaker 2: But I used to run under these guys who were

1825
02:06:03,720 --> 02:06:07,680
like Info Wars fans, and they drop a lot of

1826
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:11,640
Alex Jones' talking points and they claim stuff like the

1827
02:06:11,800 --> 02:06:15,720
Cold War was ledgered Maine, and I'm an idiot because

1828
02:06:16,119 --> 02:06:18,359
there was never any chance in nuclear wars. It was

1829
02:06:18,479 --> 02:06:22,079
all fake. And it's like that's not how things work.

1830
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:24,760
I mean, that's stupid for all kinds of reasons. But

1831
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:28,680
it's like so America and the Soviet Union, they're just

1832
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:34,960
maintaining these massive constellation of military forces. Then they were

1833
02:06:35,039 --> 02:06:37,880
pretending to go to war in places like Vietnamine and

1834
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:41,000
Gola and killing a bunch of people just as part

1835
02:06:41,039 --> 02:06:44,239
of like the magicians act. Why would anybody do that?

1836
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:48,720
You know? But there's the same people who claim that,

1837
02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:51,840
well nine to eleven was a controlled demolition. It's like, okay,

1838
02:06:52,479 --> 02:06:54,199
but if you don't need to blow up the world

1839
02:06:54,239 --> 02:06:57,600
trace and get a war man date, you know, you

1840
02:06:57,840 --> 02:07:02,399
basasically to stir up war fever. You know, this isn't uh,

1841
02:07:03,359 --> 02:07:07,359
this isn't nineteen forty where you got you know, President

1842
02:07:07,399 --> 02:07:10,600
for life Roosevelt saying how do I how can I

1843
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:15,359
mobilize twenty million men, you know and kill off they

1844
02:07:15,439 --> 02:07:17,600
were from like a quarter million, like a million American

1845
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:22,800
boys in some unpopular war and basically shut down all

1846
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:26,760
activity other than this, you know, unrelated this unrelated to

1847
02:07:26,840 --> 02:07:29,600
this you know, massive war effort. Yeah, then you do

1848
02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:32,399
need a pearl Harvard, I aink that happen. You don't

1849
02:07:32,439 --> 02:07:34,079
need to You don't need to blow up New York

1850
02:07:34,159 --> 02:07:38,600
City to invent a catalyst to intervene in the Middle East.

1851
02:07:39,800 --> 02:07:44,359
You know, I mean, did Bush that, did Bush forty

1852
02:07:44,439 --> 02:07:48,680
one order some sort of bomb to be planted in

1853
02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:52,359
Chicago or LA to intervene in the Gulf War? I

1854
02:07:52,439 --> 02:07:57,439
mean like apparently not, you know, like because that's acidine.

1855
02:07:58,399 --> 02:08:01,359
But the you know, I say, with the Russia thing,

1856
02:08:01,479 --> 02:08:05,399
it's like, Okay, I understand in some cases we're talking

1857
02:08:05,399 --> 02:08:08,800
about historical or plical phenomena, like trying to explain to people,

1858
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:13,119
especially people who don't really understand these topics in depth,

1859
02:08:14,199 --> 02:08:19,760
why there was this incredibly violent enmity between you know,

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Jews and Germans. Okay, that's a complicated topic and it's subtle.

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The case of Russia and Israel, they both talks, both

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Russians and Israelis and Jews write books about how they

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hate each other, why they hate each other, They go

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to war constantly, and then people turn around and act

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like this is like they're like be fuddled by the

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reality of this, like I don't it's very much above board,

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you know, like essentially the entire final phase of the

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Cold War, especially after you know, Southeast Asia and and

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the subcontinent and you know, we're stabilized where they set

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a lit in this kind of divided paradigm and the

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Sunda Soviets split was you know, kind of ossified into

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a new paradigm. Like basically the front line of the

1873
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Cold War was Palestine, you know it uh Moscow literally

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passed a law making it a crime to be a Zionist.

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Like this this goes back centuries. You know, it's it's

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I I don't understand it how you can be like

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that fucking stupid. But uh you know, like I said,

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I just don't. I just don't engage with those people

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because they're I worry you might be contagerous, Like I

1880
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might become like unbelievably fucking stupid if I like catch

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whatever they have or something.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's like the nine to eleven thing, the how

1883
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not how nine eleven happened and how the buildings fell,

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why three buildings fell, is really like that's for the

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low IQ people to talk about why it happened and

1886
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you know why it was carried Why that mission was

1887
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carried out is way more important. But people don't want

1888
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to know the why because if you can figure out

1889
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where the bomb was placed here and what happened here,

1890
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you you seem to be a whole lot smarter.

1891
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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's like that's one of the things about conspiracies is

1893
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and I'm not talking about conspiracy. There are conspiracies. There

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was a conspiracy to get the United States into World

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War One. We know this. I mean, that's that's inarguable.

1896
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I'm talking about these conspiracies that are meant to divert

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you away from the things that you should be concentrating on.

1898
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I mean it's like you have people who believe that,

1899
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like the reason pot the reason Putin is is a

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Jewish puppet is because he's crossing over border and killing

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white people. Yeah, well that's what that's what That's what

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Jews want, right, Jews want to kill white people. And

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even even if he's not working with him, he's so

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fucking stupid that he fell for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you can't. It's just like a total lag of

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understanding of how the sociology functions. That's scale too, Like

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I don't. I think Pelee's idea that if you're talking

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about a country or a political consolation of hundreds of

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02:11:30,600 --> 02:11:34,319
millions of people, it functions kind of like the office

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they work at, just bigger or something like. They don't

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they don't understand that when you're talking about humanity at

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that scale, there's nobody really at the helm. You know,

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you've got politically powerful people they're responding to essentially apocal

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forces or acts of God, going to live it that

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way and identifying you know, when where and how. You know,

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a directive intervention by political or military means you know,

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can swing an outcome when where or the other you know,

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I know there's other things there too. I mean there's

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like what honor demands and you know, impulses relating to

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the passions and things and you know, uh, paradigms of

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religious belief that like inform conduct. But you know, I don't, Yeah,

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that's what people just don't even understand, like what what

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politics is like. It's not or the think that the

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planet is like some sort of variant of whatever, like

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02:12:41,720 --> 02:12:44,520
weird corner of America they live in, you know, like

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one of the things like you know, and uh, I

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think too. They've got this idea that warfare only emerges

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as some sort of as some sort of deliberate policy,

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and like you can you can just make it happen

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or make it not happen, like you can by tending

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your garden or something. You know, I mean, like war

1932
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arrives like the seasons, you can inspire to capitalizing additions

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of enmity and push those conditions towards catastrophe, you know,

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like America is done in Ukraine, but it's uh, the

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situation there. You're dealing with the totally dysfunctional culture and

1936
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there's an irrational animosity there, particularly coming from the Ukrainian side,

1937
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but that they didn't like spontaneously emerge one day because

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you know, idiots the American Department of State have some

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ability to like mind control people or something. But I

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maintain and this isn't some sort of stupid flex are

1941
02:14:00,159 --> 02:14:03,600
standing politics at scale. It's like anything else I don't understand,

1942
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Like people just decide to understand this. It's like would

1943
02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:09,239
you decide you understand nuclear physics? You know, like why

1944
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do you think you have some say on this? You

1945
02:14:10,640 --> 02:14:12,800
don't know what the fuck you're talking about? You know,

1946
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you have no ability to perceive these things. But you're like, oh,

1947
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this is what I think it's like. Why because you

1948
02:14:17,680 --> 02:14:21,319
watch you watch TV, like you know, it's really really

1949
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really weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're not going to get it from podcasts either,

1951
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and that's coming from a podcaster. Yeah, we can help

1952
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you down the road, we can point you in the

1953
02:14:32,319 --> 02:14:36,119
right direction. But if you're not leaving here, if you're

1954
02:14:36,159 --> 02:14:41,159
not leaving this and reading Uri Sledskin or Hana our Rent,

1955
02:14:41,760 --> 02:14:44,960
well you don't know what. You don't know what was

1956
02:14:45,079 --> 02:14:46,680
just discussed, you know, And then you're going to have

1957
02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:49,560
the people who are going to immediately say, well, you're

1958
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invoking a rent and you're invoking Sledskin, and there are

1959
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both Jews, and of course they're going to say that

1960
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there the all the Jews, all the this blame needs

1961
02:15:01,439 --> 02:15:04,039
to be deflected away from Jews because you know, they're

1962
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trying to protect their own Yeah.

1963
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Speaker 2: I just don't I read. Uh. I remember it's like

1964
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a layman in terms of like space science and stuff.

1965
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And I listen to a lot of podcasts like by

1966
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that guy Jean Michael Goatier, you know he does the

1967
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Event Horizon pod and stuff, and uh, whether people agree

1968
02:15:22,600 --> 02:15:25,079
with the takes of him and these other guys. These

1969
02:15:25,119 --> 02:15:29,079
guys are all like PGDs and physics. Like I'm not

1970
02:15:29,159 --> 02:15:33,880
saying credentials mean you know something, But in that whole

1971
02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:37,239
kind of sphere, there's not just like random guys who

1972
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are like, yeah, I manage at Walmart, but today I'm

1973
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gonna talk about you know, black hole cosmology because I

1974
02:15:44,439 --> 02:15:47,720
watch TV, so I'm an expert, like like literally in

1975
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like the political sphere. That's what it is. It's like

1976
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I'm some like random dickhead like Dan Bill's aria and

1977
02:15:53,560 --> 02:15:55,880
you might remember me from like like how to pick

1978
02:15:55,960 --> 02:15:58,720
up girls and like steroid guys stuff. But I don't

1979
02:15:58,800 --> 02:16:01,279
like Israel now, you know, It's like where do these

1980
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motherfuckers get their fucking balls? You know, It's like you

1981
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got no you have no opinion on this, you know,

1982
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like you like you know less than nothing.

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Speaker 1: You know.

1984
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Speaker 2: That's that's weird about it. When I realized there was

1985
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an entire legacy media culture that it's kind of tailored

1986
02:16:18,279 --> 02:16:22,800
to confer these delusions upon randos that they were actually

1987
02:16:22,840 --> 02:16:25,479
they actually understand politics. But I still maintain it's a

1988
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fucking weird phenomenon. I literally spend like ten hours a

1989
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day like studying this stuff and I have for my

1990
02:16:32,520 --> 02:16:36,000
entire life, and uh, I feel like I'm just scratching

1991
02:16:36,040 --> 02:16:38,680
the service of things. But then there's like a billion

1992
02:16:38,840 --> 02:16:42,280
randos who are like barely literate, who have like some

1993
02:16:42,440 --> 02:16:45,680
hardest fuck opinion on politics, like it's retarded.

1994
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Speaker 1: Some of them have audiences too, no, so.

1995
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Speaker 2: Like yeah, that's like I said, like if you look

1996
02:16:52,559 --> 02:16:56,760
at these these supposedly like right wing fags, it's just

1997
02:16:56,840 --> 02:16:58,959
like random idiots, Like that's why he's that, Like Dan

1998
02:16:59,040 --> 02:17:02,079
Bilderian guys like this, Like Jim bro guy. One day

1999
02:17:02,079 --> 02:17:05,520
he's like, I don't like Israel, Like it's it's it's

2000
02:17:05,559 --> 02:17:07,840
like a grift. But it's just weird. It's weird. These

2001
02:17:07,879 --> 02:17:10,639
people think they understand that it's weird. They gravitate the

2002
02:17:10,719 --> 02:17:15,120
total randos who they decide or authorities on you know,

2003
02:17:16,120 --> 02:17:19,799
like phytical theoretical affairs and stuff, and it's just like weird.

2004
02:17:19,879 --> 02:17:22,079
They think that they're in they have a stake in

2005
02:17:22,159 --> 02:17:24,639
this anyway. But it's like it's like the rand whos

2006
02:17:24,680 --> 02:17:27,079
have decided like Trump is ruining their life. It's like

2007
02:17:28,079 --> 02:17:31,559
it's like it's like you don't understand these things this

2008
02:17:31,680 --> 02:17:34,159
has no impact on your life, Like why why are

2009
02:17:34,159 --> 02:17:37,040
you convinced like Donald Trump is after you? It's like

2010
02:17:37,120 --> 02:17:39,399
whoever the president is. It's like you're not capable of

2011
02:17:39,440 --> 02:17:42,520
understanding this shit. Just like go about your goofy life

2012
02:17:42,639 --> 02:17:45,799
and you know where you like work at Target or whatever,

2013
02:17:46,399 --> 02:17:49,000
Like why why have you decided You're like some Marvel

2014
02:17:49,079 --> 02:17:52,440
Comics character and Donald Trump's a super villain who's trying

2015
02:17:52,479 --> 02:17:54,760
to do things to you, you know, like that that

2016
02:17:54,840 --> 02:17:58,000
you have like no bearing on your world, you know,

2017
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like it.

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Speaker 1: All right?

2019
02:18:02,879 --> 02:18:03,040
Speaker 3: Man?

2020
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's just frustrating sometimes because you know,

2021
02:18:10,719 --> 02:18:14,639
you you bury your heads the head in these books

2022
02:18:14,840 --> 02:18:18,680
and you actually read them to people sometimes, you know

2023
02:18:18,760 --> 02:18:21,000
how I like to do that and everything, and people

2024
02:18:21,120 --> 02:18:24,680
still don't get it. It's still black and white. It's

2025
02:18:24,719 --> 02:18:28,959
still this black and white good versus evil kind of thing,

2026
02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:32,399
and it's there is no I mean, if you bring

2027
02:18:32,520 --> 02:18:37,360
up if you bring up sociological issues, you know, within

2028
02:18:38,120 --> 02:18:41,799
within the framework of two people, of two distinct peoples

2029
02:18:42,319 --> 02:18:44,280
who just are not going to be able to get

2030
02:18:44,280 --> 02:18:46,959
along with each other. I remember one time you and

2031
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:49,639
I talked about I think Jews in Spain. It's like,

2032
02:18:49,879 --> 02:18:52,680
how the hell did Jews go into a Catholic country

2033
02:18:52,840 --> 02:18:56,159
and both of those groups not immediately start killing each other.

2034
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It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And why because

2035
02:19:01,159 --> 02:19:04,079
there's a So it's not because one doesn't like the

2036
02:19:04,120 --> 02:19:06,200
way the other one looks, one doesn't like the way

2037
02:19:06,239 --> 02:19:09,760
the other one smells. It's because there is a fundamentally

2038
02:19:09,959 --> 02:19:13,959
sociological issue there that is going to cause one of

2039
02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:17,840
those groups to realize that the other is a grave

2040
02:19:18,159 --> 02:19:22,000
threat to their to their survival in in that milieu.

2041
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Speaker 2: Well yeah, and it's yeah, exactly, well no, and that's

2042
02:19:27,040 --> 02:19:31,639
why that's why Gee keeps so hard and increasingly I'm

2043
02:19:31,719 --> 02:19:33,719
a part of it because I'm like old and cantankerous,

2044
02:19:33,799 --> 02:19:38,520
but I'm just not I I'm not here to like

2045
02:19:38,639 --> 02:19:43,120
trying spoonfeed knowledge to stupid people. They're like or disruptive

2046
02:19:43,200 --> 02:19:45,719
or ignorant people. And it's like, I don't I think

2047
02:19:45,719 --> 02:19:47,319
it really gets me. And like I said, I mean,

2048
02:19:47,360 --> 02:19:50,200
I I'm trying to overreact to this stuff and I'm

2049
02:19:50,319 --> 02:19:52,239
very fortunate and all hads of way. It's not better,

2050
02:19:52,360 --> 02:19:56,040
but they'll be motherfuckers. They will literally plagiarize my shit

2051
02:19:56,280 --> 02:19:59,479
and like say stuff I'd said word for word and

2052
02:19:59,559 --> 02:20:01,639
then like I'm an idiot and I don't know what

2053
02:20:01,719 --> 02:20:03,959
I'm talking about. It's like really, man, it's like you

2054
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:07,079
gotta have you built a content brand on plagiarizing me,

2055
02:20:08,200 --> 02:20:10,200
you know, so it's like you must be a real

2056
02:20:10,319 --> 02:20:13,520
idiot then, because like apparently I don't know anything, but

2057
02:20:13,760 --> 02:20:17,799
your entire kink is like appropriating everything I say and write.

2058
02:20:18,079 --> 02:20:23,440
Speaker 1: But you know, and then like.

2059
02:20:24,280 --> 02:20:26,200
Speaker 2: Thunders made the point that like people would they hate

2060
02:20:26,200 --> 02:20:28,040
on him constantly and see he was like a junkie

2061
02:20:28,040 --> 02:20:30,479
piece of ship, but then they'd like imitate everything he did,

2062
02:20:30,719 --> 02:20:35,959
so I guess thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you got a chance to have a

2064
02:20:38,360 --> 02:20:40,879
conversation where people who have been studying this for decades

2065
02:20:40,920 --> 02:20:43,840
and like they're actually like real academics, and you have

2066
02:20:43,959 --> 02:20:48,959
conversations with them and they're like they're not calling you

2067
02:20:49,040 --> 02:20:51,520
an idiot like some fucking a non on Twitter.

2068
02:20:51,639 --> 02:20:55,200
Speaker 2: Will Well it's also too, I mean, frankly, like I said,

2069
02:20:56,040 --> 02:20:58,680
I don't I don't think I'm I don't think I'm

2070
02:20:58,680 --> 02:21:00,399
better than anybody. You don't think I'm like some kind

2071
02:21:00,440 --> 02:21:02,680
of genius. But it's like, well, I don't know, man,

2072
02:21:02,799 --> 02:21:04,760
I have that conversations about this kind of shit with

2073
02:21:04,799 --> 02:21:10,040
people like Henry Kissinger. And you know, I've never been

2074
02:21:10,120 --> 02:21:12,319
told that I'm that I don't know what I'm talking about,

2075
02:21:12,440 --> 02:21:16,719
that I'm an idiot, and like I said, it's like, okay, fine,

2076
02:21:16,719 --> 02:21:19,719
I'm an idiot then while you motherfuckers stop plagiarizing me now,

2077
02:21:21,719 --> 02:21:26,000
like I whatever. But yeah, yeah, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, man, tell people where they can find you.

2079
02:21:29,799 --> 02:21:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, uh, the best spot remains substick. It's

2080
02:21:34,879 --> 02:21:39,360
real Thomas seven seven seven dot substack dot com. You

2081
02:21:39,440 --> 02:21:41,520
know that's from there you can get to my social

2082
02:21:41,639 --> 02:21:45,719
media and all that shit. And uh, my website now

2083
02:21:45,920 --> 02:21:51,079
is pretty like everything should be working right, It's number

2084
02:21:51,200 --> 02:21:54,360
seven hm as seven seven seven dot com. Like go

2085
02:21:54,520 --> 02:21:56,040
there first and foremost.

2086
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Speaker 1: Yeaes sir. Oh. One thing I took away from this

2087
02:22:00,200 --> 02:22:05,079
you said it at the end. Gatekeep gatekeep gatekeep in

2088
02:22:05,200 --> 02:22:09,959
your personal especially in your personal life if you're if

2089
02:22:10,000 --> 02:22:11,799
you're out there gatekeeping on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: Oh that guy over there, he won't name the Jew,

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so that means that means that he wants the Jews

2092
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to take over Yeah, seek Canadian healthcare?

2093
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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why that's why you don't teach people to read

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exactly Yeah

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Speaker 1: You take every other back