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Speaker 5: We got Ronald the three Man Weaver, Ronnie, how you living?
Speaker 2: Living good? Fans aren't gonna like this, but I wrapped
Chicago Pride. Spring training is underway for baseball. You guys
know I'm a big baseball guy. White Socks crosstown rivalry
up for one on the Cubbies. So eat that to
all those Chicago Cubs fans in the state of Utah.
It's a little poking from me, but spring training is
back on a bit far back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 4: So I grew up in Arizona, trainings right around the corner.
So we'd go to Cubby's games and go to the Mariners.
The Podres are down there in Glendale, Phoenix, Scottsdale area,
and so we became uh, you know, uh you know
Seattle Manors fan, Samuel Podre.
Speaker 5: Fans, and even Chicago Cup fans.
Speaker 4: And there was a there was a there was a
combo of it because w g N would be broadcast.
Speaker 5: Wow, we we'd we'd, we'd watch Cubby games because of
w g N.
Speaker 2: YEP.
Speaker 4: I also became somewhat of a of an Atlanta Braves
fan because of uh TVs. So I'd also watch you know,
uh Mark, uh, you know, Glavin and Schmoltz and and
Chipper Jones, and I was like, oh, man, I'm a
fan of the Braves too.
Speaker 5: Like you're only sometimes only as good.
Speaker 4: As the the uh the content that is distributed to
your tube, right uh. And and also my dad went
to Northwestern and they lived in Chicago for you know,
three or four years. As he was going to dental school,
so there was a connectivity there as well.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I love you for that WGN nine. They
hits Home Bend.
Speaker 5: Right it is WGN.
Speaker 4: I'm like, so like, I have some connectivity to shy Town.
Uh you know, with my with my pops and also
my uncle who worked at Leo Burnetta, Chicago based advertising
firm that's one of the best in the business, has
been the best in the business. So uh, you know,
shout out to to Uncle Paul and all the shy
Town roots and uh yeah.
Speaker 5: Anyways, just wanted to bring that up as we get
into it.
Speaker 4: Some beat like you'll see like uh, Utah natives and
Arizona natives become Chicago Cubs fans because.
Speaker 5: Of WGN, is what I'm getting at.
Speaker 4: And so, uh, you can hate if you're if you're
not a CuPy cent I think you know who's gonna
hate the g man. G Man hates the fact that
everyone's a Cubs fan. He does on those guys he hates.
Speaker 5: I don't know if he hates. I'm gonna text him.
Speaker 4: Do you hate the mouse more than you know?
Speaker 5: Question? You're like, you know, you're low hanging fruit.
Speaker 2: I think mouse though, Ben Oh yeah, he doesn't like
the mouse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, boards abhors the mouse. Let's welcome into the show.
Also co host and putting out the digital content for us.
Speaker 5: We got bread. I was bringing the hammer Hammer Time show.
What's up. I'm happy to hear the Braves reference on
this show.
Speaker 6: Obviously, years growing up in Atlanta, Big Time Brave fans
grew up going to games because tickets were dirt cheap.
Speaker 5: However, I have an apology to make to.
Speaker 6: The members of the show and to the listeners of
the show, because I pride myself on being the master
of the Internet and knowing what's going on in our world.
And I missed a story yesterday, Ben that we have
to start the show off with today.
Speaker 5: I didn't get talked to you about it before give it.
Speaker 6: Ronald and I talked about it today and I said,
ron we have to get into this. I was tipped
off by this story by my friends over at my
former employer at bou Sports Nation. There was a tweet
from Greg Rebel that went out the other day. Gregor
Bell said, hur on ESPN twos Texas second, ask you
broadcast tonight quote YU three point shooting without Richie Schaanders
they don't have a shot maker outside Richie Saunders. Now
the person who said this was the color commentator on
that ESPN game. Good friend of Yu, Sean Farnham. Sean
Farnham saw this tweet and responded directly to it, creating
a little bit of rift, a little bit of some beef.
He responded today on Sports Nation, Ronnie, do we have
that we do?
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's hear what Sean Well.
Speaker 7: I mean, if you there's there's two one is I
thought by You actually did what they had to do
last night.
Speaker 3: Oh, let's just start with that.
Speaker 7: I thought by You did what it had to do
last night, and that was try to equal in the
paint Arizona.
Speaker 3: They did. They did a good job defending Arizona in
the paint. That was good.
Speaker 7: But I think Arizona exposed itself that it's you want
to take a way that paint. We'll put del Orso
out on the floor and we're gonna let him cook.
And they got some really good looks from the outside
and they were able to drill him. And it's ironic
because the three point line was so significant in the
last night's game. You know, listen, like I was talking
during the Texas Tech game, and our good friend Greg
decided to go to Twitter and put out that somebody
on ESPN said that without Richie Saunders there's really not
that perimeter threat, and then statistically showed what Rob Wright
and Aj Devonsa are shooting field goal percent is wives
from the three point line versus that of which Richie
Saunders was shooting, in which some of your fans said,
ESPN doesn't do research.
Speaker 3: ESPN obviously doesn't.
Speaker 7: Sean Farnham doesn't get cougartails anymore because see, I wasn't
actually mentioned in the tweet, even though Greg obviously knew
it was me.
Speaker 3: So here's some research for the fans BYU.
Speaker 7: With Richie Saunders on the floor has made one hundred
and seventy six to three pointers this year. With Richie
Saunders off the floor, you've made fifty five to three pointers.
Speaker 3: Fifty five. The guys that filled in for Richie last night,
how'd they do? No shots?
Speaker 7: They make shots? One of they is no And here's
the reason. And you take something out of context first,
which is what Greg did. And he also didn't at me,
which he knows clearly I was the person calling the game.
Speaker 3: So if you're gonna take it out of context. The
context is this.
Speaker 7: When you have all three out on the floor, and
when you talk about the scouting report of the players
at BYU, the first thing you talk about with Rob
Ridy is you got to try to take away his
right hand and his ability to attack the lane line
and get downhill.
Speaker 3: That's number one thing you talk about.
Speaker 7: You don't talk about his three point shooting ability or
ability to stretch the defense.
Speaker 3: Can he shoot the three point shot? Of course he can't.
Speaker 7: When you talk about Ajd Bonsa, you talk about, hey, guys,
we can't let him get to that big twelve logo
in the middle of the paint because he shoots like
eighty percent when he gets to that big twelve logo.
Speaker 3: You can't give him a scene to the rim.
Speaker 7: Because he finishes as well as anybody in the country
around the basket with his great verticality and his length
and able to extend out over the top of the defense.
Speaker 3: Can he shoot the three point shot? Of course you can't.
But is that the number one thing you talk about?
Speaker 7: No, with Richie Saunders, even though he did so many
other things, great offensive rebounding, his drives, everything like that,
on this gotneryport and again I'm mad other shoot arounds,
so I get to see what other people are saying
about your team. They say, hey, cannot let Richie Saunders
get good looks, cannot let Richie Sonders get going from
beyond the arc because of his ability.
Speaker 3: To stretch the floor.
Speaker 7: There's no other player that at opposing shoot rounds that
they talk.
Speaker 3: Like that about the first thing that they say.
Speaker 7: They mentioned other guys can do it, but it changes
the way the defense now even guards those other two players.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 7: Obviously AJ's so special and played absolutely phenomenal last night,
Rob Wright struggled a little bit.
Speaker 3: You're gonna need more out of him.
Speaker 7: Down the stretch, but you need somebody to stretch the
floor because that creates driving lanes and seams.
Speaker 3: For those two guys to do what they do best.
And the numbers are the numbers. One hundred and seventy
six made.
Speaker 7: Three porters with Richie Saunders on the floor because they
have to defend you differently fifty five when he's.
Speaker 3: Been off the floor. That's a pretty stark difference.
Speaker 7: And last night the guys that stepped in did not
deliver from beyond the arc, and that's going to have
to change for BYU down the stretch of the season
if they're going to be successful. So if anybody wants
to question my research, go ahead, but I'd also remind
you you've invited me to talk to your class multiple times.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: We love you, We love Greg.
Speaker 3: We'll let you guys figure it out. Saturday. AJD Bonsa is.
Speaker 5: Okay, so fiery Sean Farnham.
Speaker 4: Look, I get it, like no one wants to be
passes aggressively critic criticized, right, Like, what this is what
I'll say? And and I I think this is a
cultural thing. Just let me have a cultural conversation. I
don't think in general BYU fans Latter Day Saints are
front facing linear people in how they go about with
contention or competition.
Speaker 2: No, I agree with you.
Speaker 4: They are especially in the in the nerdery area, in
the academic area, in the very.
Speaker 5: Spiritually inclined area. Okay, let me go on here.
Speaker 4: Okay, because you're looking at me like I'm like, well,
where are you going with this? They circumvent contention. I'm
an athlete. I go straight to the person. I want
it at you. I want to converse with you. Sean
Farnham's that type and you saw that right there. He's like, yeah,
I'm gonna hop on it. I'm gonna let's have a
let's have a debate, let's have a competition, let's have
let's get into a combative situation if you really want to.
Whereas and I don't think Greg was like trying to
be cir conversion, but you're less likely in our culture
to to come at someone with your real name front facing.
You're gonna be passive aggressive. That's what they do. It's
a nonchal omphastitor. I see it time and time again.
It's the one of the things I hate about our
culture is.
Speaker 5: This happy smiley I love.
Speaker 4: You son, and then as youny to walk away as
like passive aggressive, you know, taking shots little things here
and there. Because we're supposed to be, you know, a
light to the world. We're supposed to be X Y
and Z, but we're also extremely competitive. We also have
a little man syndrome sometimes in our culture. Does that
make sense? And Ronald's in my LIKEE see, yeah, yes,
one hundred percent because an athlete type has an issue
with it. That's why I struggle a little bit with
anonymity on social media. I understand the protectionism that comes
with that, especially if you're related to a if you're
associated with a corporation, you don't want to say and
do anything that could be deemed socio politically, socio culturally
inappropriate and get fired, because I totally get that.
Speaker 5: But also it's a part it's ingrained on a culture to.
Speaker 4: Be passive, aggressive and subterfuge and subterfuging and backbiting and
a little bit manipulative on the back end in a
circumferential way.
Speaker 5: Does that make sense? Like?
Speaker 4: And so I appreciate Sean farm Greg Rebel's one of
the best voices in college athletics for their particular institution,
and his data qualitative and quantitative is some of the best,
and BYU fans are blessed to have him. I also
understand how Sean Farnham would be pissed off about being
called out on the call. And Greg knows who's on
the call more than anybody. Okay, Greg's one of the
most astute, smart, hardworking individuals. He didn't want to have
that combative situation. Sean Farnam saw it because it went viral,
you know, and Sean Farnam's a big BYU guy.
Speaker 6: Like it would be one thing if it's any other
any other ESPN analyst, I get it, yeah, but it's
a whole other thing for you to tweet somebody on
ESPN who, let's be honest, you know who.
Speaker 5: It is, because again, you know these guys, so you
know it is.
Speaker 6: And that guy also happens to be a big b
YU guy because he's on BYU Sports Nation every week
and he's always in provo, always doing games. So it's like,
I don't when I was in high school, there's a
thing called sub tweeting.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys are yeah, yeah, and like.
Speaker 6: That's a subtweet because what you could have done, if
you were Greg and you wanted to have that conversation,
what you could have done is you could have said,
there's general criticism that b YU won't be able to
shoot the three without orders, and then tweet those numbers
and then if we want to connect the dots and say, oh,
is he saying that? In response to Sean Farnham, that's
our job, but we're connecting dots that aren't there when
you say oh, so and so on ESPN I don't
know who it is, but he tweet he said this,
here's the numbers.
Speaker 5: It's like, okay, well, either be front facing about.
Speaker 6: It a debate, either be front facing about it or say, hey,
you guys are making that connection, but I'm not connecting
the dots there, just like be one or the other.
Except to your point, it's like, okay, we're being passive
aggressive even though we all know what you really meant.
Speaker 5: You said that.
Speaker 4: It's pretty transparent of you know, the the subtweet, and
so I get that, but you know it's I understand
Also the perspective, like you don't want to get into
an aggressive, combative debate, and so you don't want to
quote tweet or you don't want to like tag them,
you don't want to add them. But realize when you're
dealing with an athlete and you're subtweeting in subterfusing and
kind of like circumventing a potentially.
Speaker 5: Combative debate, what it views. It's high estrogen.
Speaker 4: It's high estrogen, it's backbiting, it's a manipulative feminine quality.
Speaker 5: Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: Men are typically more likely to get front facing and
try to solve a problem. Getting a fight right, like
punch each on the face. Okay, we got it done,
like you know whatever. It's more of a and you
see that in like some of these dramas and films
and some of the reality TV what a what it's
Housewives of of of Utah, Salt Lake City, there's a
lot of.
Speaker 5: Backbiting, chirping. It's it's it's typically an. It's an.
Speaker 4: It's a it's a it's not a it's not a
masculine masculine quality traditionally, is what I'm getting at. And
that may be controversial to some because you have a
lot of liney, you have a lot of linear females.
But I would say, as a whole, it's it doesn't
it's not like a traditional masculine quality. So it's it's
an issue in our culture. It's an issue in our
culture to we will smile through your face.
Speaker 5: My my buddy makes fun of me all the time.
Speaker 4: He's like, Mormons, get to a four way stop, you know,
stop signing like.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no you go, no no, no you.
Speaker 4: Go because the optics of being nice, right, the optics
are being nice, but then they may do a little
you know, side thing, right, a little subterfuge on the side,
a little backbiting, a little pacific residence.
Speaker 5: We got to be better about it, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I said, Greg, I don't think Greg
purposely is like I'm gonna sub tweet here.
Speaker 5: I'm and I'm like, but maybe it was. Maybe it was.
I don't know.
Speaker 4: Some people are gonna go disagree. I think he was
just kind of making a commentary out there. You know, me, Like,
what do I do? I quote tweeter, I'm like, guys,
do you agree or disagree with this? I'm gonna I'm
gonna get the video, like do you agree or disagree?
And then I want to talk about it, right, I
want to talk about it. I want to debate it.
Roddy you you were chiming in my ear? Is this
an issue? Like we gotta address this? Uh, you know,
from from a demographic standpoint, from our culture, we gotta
maybe be a little bit more front racing. Well, Sean
was aggressive there, man.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you're dealing with the former athlete, and
I hate to I hate to get this way, Ben,
I really do, because you're talking to another former athlete
and I'm about to get Petty, I am really am
because look, I have chosen because you mentor me. I've
gone the high road with a lot of stuff like
I really have, you know. But in the same breath
at Batman by you at least he added me right
when he disagreed with my take, you know, with those things.
But when you're dealing with people who are competitive, when
you're dealing with former athletes like that, people who aren't
gonna back down and take it, I'm just gonna let
you know, like people have come in my dms before
and I've opened them up. You know, I don't run
from anything, but for me, it's if you do that,
I'm gonna respond and say something. Look, I have no
problem if Greg wants to say that, But I am
also like Brett, you know, I don't like to play
the FOFO game. You know, like, if you say something
and do it, or you know what you're doing, you
don't be surprised when there's a reply like that. If
Greg has an issue with this, if people are shocked,
if people want to say, why is Sean doing this? Like, well,
what did you expect? Did you expect? One of ESPN's
best college basketball analysts, who has a relationship with Byu,
who's in the rock before the game when they're introducing
who's standing in the student section when he doesn't have
to do that, Ben who likes Byu And it's pro
Baus Brett already said and alluded to and that we
know when you say those things, and look, I would
have Ben, I would say that, I bet Greg has
Shawn's number. You know what, I dude been as someone
that does this, and we don't do this in the culture.
And this bugs me, And this is this is the
trick you reach out And how many times have you
and I reached out. I don't know if like to
sit down and talk like we don't do that. We're afraid.
And I get it because in thirty five eleven, you
know when Christ comes to the Americas, you know, eleven eighteen,
when he talks about contention, we struggle with that that
that is such a we look at contentional. It's combative.
It goes against what we're supposed to do. But to me,
you murmuring behind someone's back and being passive aggressive is
just like the people in the New Testament. It's just
exactly it's not good. Look, I think I think I
think christ would look upon you for trying to have
a discussion and be adults about it, you know, And
that's what it should be when you disagree, and Reck
can tell you Brett and I have disagreed on me,
but I've never felt, oh, I'm disrespected this Like I
respect him way more and I respect you way more
for doing that. And I try not to do these things.
I try to address these things with people. And look,
this is and this is all sports, right, that's not political.
But I felt like Greg, if at least at the
person directly and be honest so we know, oh, don't
play the game of someone on the broadcast when you
know who it is, you've talked to that person and passing. Look,
Greg's at practice because you know you're a play by
play guy and normally your color guy or have a
chance to go to practice, you probably a pass Sean
of numerous of times. I just keep the if you
want the relationship to stay workable, don't do stuff like that.
So like that, That's what I'm looking at is I'm
going on this tangent. But Sean had every right to
apply and I respect him for doing that, because if
you were to do that to me and say yes,
someone on Cougar Sports said this, It's like, well who
else is with Ben every day? And Brett like, I
just I don't go for that, So it's it's disappointing,
but I just no one should be surprised by this.
I think if you ever do that to someone and
someone would have come to you and say, oh I
heard this or you did this, just don't be shocked, Like,
don't be in Look if they come with a certain energy,
expect that, Like if I say something behind Brett's back
of yeah there was someone you know, former social media
got like what I should not I should not be
surprised if Brett calls me or if he says something publicly.
So that's what I'm getting that I'll in there. But yeah,
this is definitely an athlete thing because as a former athlete,
you do not like when people say that and don't
come talk to you, and your competitive nature will always
trump anything and you're gonna be like, oh, I got you.
Let me back it up with my data points too.
Always I've seen it.
Speaker 4: Well that's what I mean. You saw that from Sean Farnham.
He's like, I want to hop on your show. I
want to talk about this. I'm going to bring up
data points on he brought numbers.
Speaker 5: Too, brought facts. You know. The other thing I don't
like is BYU fans. We can't have it both ways.
Speaker 6: You can't say you want national media to advocate for you,
and then when you have a national media member who
is the biggest BYU advocate that there is when it
comes to college basketball, then you're like, oh, well we
hate him when he comes to provo, no more cougar tails,
all that stuff. Sean Farnum is the biggest BYU national
media advocate. Do not come for him, otherwise you will
lose your national media advocate. You can't sit there and
be the boy who cried wolf and say well, I
want people to advocate for us, and then when someone
tells you the truth and you don't like it, then.
Speaker 5: You say, well we don't want him.
Speaker 6: Well, look there's not people lining up at the door
saying I want to nationally meet advocate for b YU.
So take the guys who do. And when they tell
you the truth, that's okay if you don't like it.
But what Sewan's numbers said, we're not lying. Yeah, And
ultimately like Greg's job is to be an advocate for
b YU. Yeah, he is the voice, he is the
positive propagandist.
Speaker 5: Like that's where his paycheck comes from.
Speaker 4: If he begins to if he is not willing to like,
you know, step up and defend BYU, you know, or
be proactive in defending BYU, right.
Speaker 5: Like that that's not a good look either.
Speaker 4: So I understand like going out of his way, like no,
like and should he have like quote tweeted him, at
tagged him. I don't know, Like what Sean said wasn't wrong, Yeah, no,
And I get it. But like, also what Greg said
is like, well, no, we have other shooters, AJ and
Rob That's what he said, and that there's truth in
that as well.
Speaker 5: There is truth in that.
Speaker 4: I mean there is the boy shooting thirty six plus
percent from the three point line, right.
Speaker 5: But I think to what Sean Sean tin about volume, which.
Speaker 2: Is well he's talking about Stem.
Speaker 6: And Shawn's point is that like you don't have shooters,
Like obviously we know you have Robin AJ.
Speaker 5: Those are your main guys. Who are they passing to?
But they're not shooters?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: Who are they? Like you have your main guys who
are they passing?
Speaker 2: Dude, they're the playmakers A and Rob, so they can't
be everything.
Speaker 5: And I think that was Sean's point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, it is what it is. I guess it's country.
I didn't know about this, so.
Speaker 2: Thank you Brett for bringing us up. I love this
is a great talking point.
Speaker 4: I do think, like you know, my social commentary is
like it's always best to quote tweet or quote them,
you know, put like their video up, put their quote up,
say like I disagree, I think b yu ha shooters,
and then have a debate with him in a front face,
especially if you're a public figure, and.
Speaker 6: Especially if it's likely that you probably know the person,
like if I did that to you, we work together,
and it's.
Speaker 5: Brother, why you just Ben says Enick Watson's gonna be
QUB two what an idiot He's gonna be tracing more
on and Cougar Sports said this two other people.
Speaker 4: Like, I mean, I get I've gotten a lot of
those guys, Like I've gotten a lot of those guys
on social media that like kind of like hover around
the message boards.
Speaker 5: I'm like, guys, I.
Speaker 4: Know who you are this like, I know who you
are in your unanimous anonymous, uh handle right, and a
lot of times they try to poke the bear in
order to get a reaction, and it's super like, I
don't it's super like, oh gosh, I was like, I
don't know how to describe it, just like it is
such like a just like a manipulative, passive, aggressive, like
neurotic thing to do for validation, to make yourself feel
better about it. It's it's game of thrones, little finger,
like Varius vibe. To me, it's like you're you're not
masculine enough to get out there, and like you're just
not masculine enough to have a front facing conversation and
a fourth right conversation and debate.
Speaker 5: Instead, you have to think like this is it's super
to me neurotically feminine.
Speaker 4: And I hate to say that, but like that's kind
of how I feel about I'm like, guys, don't back byke,
don't subterfuge, don't subtweet, Just call it as you see
it and be a freaking man, and let's debate.
Speaker 6: There's nothing wrong with disagreeing, by the way, that's not
the article I'm making.
Speaker 5: Agree.
Speaker 6: You can absolutely disagree, But if you're gonna disagree with
someone be man enough to let them know that you
disagree with them, especially when it's likely that you know.
Speaker 4: I've had articles written about me before, Like I had
an article written about me, like me being a fanboy
on an official website, meybe a fan wearing BYU gear
into the press box, and so I'm like, guys, like,
I don't know what to tell you, like and I
added him, I'm like, hey, like, I am a former player,
I run a BYU specific show, I'm an owner of
a BYU license apparel company. I'm a Cougar club member,
my brother played for BYU, my parents are alums, And
I don't know what you expect.
Speaker 2: I am not your three you were three in the
alumni game back to back to back years.
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm just saying, like I am so intertwined
with BYU, like I'm a constructive critic, but like everyone
knows where my allegiance lies. I am not an uh
A A a unbiased traditional jay journalism media member, and
don't expect it from me.
Speaker 5: Will I talk ball and criticize players and.
Speaker 4: Their productivity and maybe if coaches are struggling, Sure, one
hundred percent, but that doesn't mean I'm sitting here like, oh,
I just want to hate on BYU all day. No,
I mean I I'm an advocate, so like anyway, like,
let's just be forthright, let's be open, let's be honest,
let's get rid of that culture.
Speaker 5: If you have a problem, yo, I'll solve.
Speaker 4: It and come up to the face to face and
have a conversation.
Speaker 5: Like a grown ass man.
Speaker 4: Teach your sons that if you have an issue, okay,
don't circumvent it through subterfuge and manipulation and subtweeting, be
it social media or what have you. Go to the
source and be like, hey, like we should address this,
address the problem anyway.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm hopping back on the mic. But this was Look,
and I know someone's gonna tweet at me or DM
me about this. This was an issue in my mission
when I was his own leader. That bugged me so
much was the passive aggressiveness of you know, not being
able to sit down and talk about, you know, a
problem in this like it's okay, Like and you know what,
I didn't like, you know, and I know I'm making
it spiritual, but stay with me. The companionship inventory. I
didn't like how they were like, we're gonna wait till
Friday for you to tell me what upsets you during
this exact time, during this schedule.
Speaker 5: For the comp.
Speaker 2: That's what you're gonna do, be and bread in the car.
Speaker 5: You know what.
Speaker 2: I'm having anosity towards hammer time. I'm gonna wait till
Friday at twelve after I eat my salach. I have
this to do.
Speaker 5: For three days.
Speaker 2: He interrupted me on the Planet cut and it's like, no,
like tap me, like you know how many times bretton. Look,
I want people to know, like, hey, Ron, you failed
right there. Hey bro, I expect better, my bad cool
Like I say that because I value what my friends
tell me, and I don't want them to ever think
man I disappointed, Like I feel bad for that, for you,
for the show, for the fan. So when someone says
that to me, I yes, of course to take a
person by like man, I feel bad because I don't
want to ruin the relationship and we need to look
at that of man, that really hurt me that you
just didn't say this. Her called me, oh my bad.
Let's do that and it fixes relationships and it makes
you stronger. Actually, it's that's why I think what Satan.
Speaker 5: Tries to do.
Speaker 2: He tries to attack the family unit. The family needs
to be so strong. And even in your work things,
the people you come across, you want to treat those
relationships sometimes like family even though they're not, because you
don't want to burn bridges and not saying that this
is a burn bridge moment. Just just have the conversation.
It goes really a long way, you know, and I
don't know. I look at the woman taking adult you
I know I'm on super spiritual. You can tell someone hey,
that's wrong and still love them, or hey, I disagree,
and there has to be no animosity. I know that
it's conflicting, but have the conversation. That's that's that's my
that's my takeaway.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess that's their nitty gritty Rodie Bike. I
didn't know we were going there. I appreciate every time
bringing up that was not in the front. There was
not an attack on Greg. I think it's great to
have these conversations. I appreciate Sean stepping up to the
mic and you know, calling what he sees is a
spade of spade, and I could appreciate that, know if
his answer butts about it it's it's obviously b WYU
does have other scores and shooters besides Richie Sonders, As
Evan bia Kawa pointed out, like by you dropped twenty
spots in his rankings because of Richie Sonders.
Speaker 5: He's a top one hundred player.
Speaker 4: He's a top thirty player in college basketball, per Evan
Miakai's personnel Rankings and Efficiencies offense defense, like it's hard
to replace a top thirty player, especially when the bench
is so unproven and lacks confidence and lacks cohesion and
doesn't know what their role is and is yanked pretty
early on whenever they make a mistake. They don't have
any confidence, and now they're asked to be confident. And
the only guy that I really see with confidence in
what they do defensively, in rebounding wise and intention wise
is Hdem. Everybody else is kind of like, I don't
want to mess up, even Mihailo, I don't want to
mess up. I like to see I don't want to
mess up Tyler, I don't want to mess up. Everyone's
just that they don't want to mess up. Hedeem at
least is like just like playing ball and so and
I've been probably late to jumping on the head Deem
trick because I want more offensive potency. But I'm like,
maybe we just got to go with a dem Maybe
he Deem's got to be our guy. At least he
puts forth great effort defense and rebounds. Well, unless he's
going against a seven foot.
Speaker 5: Eight Slovakian.
Speaker 4: That's like four hundred pounds and can jump like thirty six.
He's gotta get thirty six in vertical. Holy cow, he
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questions of the day, We're a week away from springball.
One week away from springball. Very excited about spring football.
I've and hearing some good you know, getting some good
feedback on the best athletes of the offseason. That doesn't
always correlate to great football play, but it is a
good foundational launching point for great football play. And so
I asked the question one of the biggest storylines heading
into springball? What is your biggest storyline? Brett always bringing
the hammer? And then Ronnie, I want you to search, ponder,
and pray. What's your biggest storyline that you're watching? Where
do your eyes gravitate towards when we're down there at practice,
you know, take checking out depth charts, looking at competition,
looking at scheme.
Speaker 5: What is the biggest storyline for you?
Speaker 6: I'm glad I get to go first, because I think
I'm taking the easy one, the low hanging fruit and.
Speaker 5: For a lot.
Speaker 6: Honestly, this was not the question. This was not what
I thought my answer was going to be headed into
spring ball. But the last few weeks have changed some things.
I originally thought the biggest question was gonna be running
back depth, because that was I mean, that's been my
swan song for the last I mean, even in season.
I think I was the biggest question of I was
the biggest questioner of running back depth. Now I've changed
the tune a little bit because I know you're still
bringing back Offensive Player of the Year LJ. Martin, but
now you lose Chase Roberts, which we knew was gonna happen.
But then you lose Parker Kingston and those were your
basically your tune main stays at the receiver position. Last year,
well you had Carson Ryan, so that helped things out
so you didn't have to go too far into depth.
All three of those guys are gone now now two
of them you expected, but one of them in Parker Kingston,
we didn't expect to be gone. And now you're kind
of looking at a fresh leg as far as the
receiver room goes, Like I know, Jojo played a little bit.
I know Cody Hagen played a little bit, but you
have basically a blank slate when it comes to the
receiver position for BUYU. Now, the good news is you
bring in a ton of dudes, and I almost wonder
if this is gonna be like Jake rhetzoff to bear
Backmeyer situation where someone you didn't expect ends up having
to be wide receiver one in a big way. I
wonder if we get one of the Poola twins to
show out this year at the receiver position. Maybe Reggie
frishconnect shows up. You got a lot of guys in
the room who could show up and show out for
this team. So while it does suck that you don't
know exactly what the depth is gonna look like, the
good news is you have guys like Terrence Serre on Legend, Glasger.
Speaker 5: You have a ton of options. Legends really nice. You
have a too Fast too.
Speaker 6: You have a ton of options in that wide receiver
room for who could fill in that slate. And so
it sucks that you're at a blank slate, but you
got a lot of talent there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like your take on Legend. I think it
would be really good. I think I get a feeling
fast is really optimist about Legend. I get this feeling,
and I've heard some good reports about his athleticism and
top end speed on this team, I think he's one
of the fastest in fact, top end speed wise, so
vertical threat, you know. I feel like we're gonna be
more of an intermediate passing team like we were last year.
But Bear could surprise me with his arm strength this year. Ronnie,
what do you got for me biggest storyline?
Speaker 5: For your biggest storylines?
Speaker 2: So grateful that Brett took what took the one that
I was not hoping to have to take. I got
nervous there for a sex. So we're in sync, not
even thinking about it. I do like to take a
wide receiver room because that competition is wide open. Been
with everything that's transpired. I do like Legend I said yesterday,
I think that's the sleeper guy when you think of
kickoff return of speed. So I love well see what
he does. Yeah, all these guys gotta go earn it
to me, Ben, I'm gonna go for it. And I mean, look,
I'm gonna keep being petty about being called out about
pressing Rex and a running back, but that. That's my storyline, though, Ben,
who outside of LJ do you trust? Even a person?
Added me, who do you trust? Don't tell me if
a guy is healthy. I'm tired of hearing if a
guy's healthy. No, no, no, I want to see healthy.
I need to see so to me that competition, Ben,
Micah beck'sad you talk about LJ. Look, we saw when
LJ and Bear both got hurt and got dinged up,
and they were playing through injury. So they're tough as
nails being they played through a lot. But wouldn't it
be nice to have a couple more people where they
don't have to do that, where they're a little bit
more fresh. So Micaeh Beckstead five ten, two thirty eight,
looking at the roster right now, if LJ gets dinged
up and he's had his fair share of injuries, could
Micah offload and take some of that? Joe Vessa de Mooney,
Brandon Gurney said, that's the guy he earned himself, you know,
the sixth the Rechert sophomore six foot one hundred and
ninety five pounder, Davon Ekka. We've heard great things about
him that you've mentioned. Ben, that's another guy he's got
to go prove it. But I like what I see
from him. Could Lucky Fenale be the yeah? I mean,
you know Moa is still there. Look Siona could shut
everybody up and say hey, look I'm back baby. We'll
see Logan pain you know that guy. Look when you
lead the state, you know, in rushing yards, and you're
up there in four or five or six A and
you don't get a chance to really prove it, it sucks. Obviously,
Preston Rex was there, his past catching ability. I think
they'll have plays for him. Been this competition to me,
I think is wide open for anybody. So I like
what I see out of LJ as being the main guy.
But to me, it's the running back room. I want
to see when LJ is not participating, who's gonna be
the guy that's gonna put his hand up that says, hey, Klanie,
I'm going to be the guy, not that you have
to pick me. I'm gonna take the spot and take
it away, and you're gonna put me as RB two.
And this is gonna be a battle all throughout Fall
Camp Ben, just because what we what will be led
into probably ten or twelve practices I assume after that
this is gonna go on the whole season. So to me, Ben,
it's RB two. That's my storyline.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love both of those. I don't know, Vic,
did you want to chime in on this your biggest storyline?
What do you got for me? Well? I was gonna
go with the wide receiver room. You can't copy it,
but I can't copy it. Well, you want to search,
ponder and pray as I talk about this.
Speaker 9: I'll go with the line, the offensive line. Okay, I
like that take, you know, because the offensive line is
the most important part of football.
Speaker 4: You know, I agree with you and think o line
play and quarterback play typically go the hand hand in
hand together.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 9: And you gotta have guys on the end that are
good because you because those defensive ends and edge rushers
out there are good. They're fast, they're quick, and uh,
you gotta be able to hold the ende for.
Speaker 5: Bear, you know. I like that.
Speaker 4: So like the the pockey Fenale Zakiyamauchi, the junior ciug
these new faces coming in, you have the holdovers of Brucey,
the tip of the spear there at center. You have,
you know, some good players, definitely returning along that offensive
line with with reps.
Speaker 3: UH.
Speaker 4: You have new faces, Bot Mulitalo coming in from loan
peak him.
Speaker 9: Yeah, very excited for him and I can't wait to
see if UH was his first Brown He's hit Joe
Brown peak that.
Speaker 5: See. I want to see what Joe can do this year,
if he can take a step forward. And because he
has the strength, he has all.
Speaker 4: The all the tools, right, you had no doubt about it.
Sonny Michaelsini returns Katon chitister. Don't you gotta watch out
for him at one of the tackle spots, Trevor pay
bring him Alexander Andrew Gentry obviously coming back as a
returning starter with a ton of reps, a ton of
starts under his belt. You got Jeff Lewis U Chad
Lewis's son Chad son yep yep. Kyle super Choke also
came on strong last year. The guard spot Ethan Thomason
at tackle UH. He was gonna be a red shirt freshman.
Now Andrew Williams big time recruit. He'll be a red
shirt freshman as well. One lat too female red freshman.
It's another guy you know, like you got a lot
of really talented red shirt freshmens with length and athleticism
that are looking to maybe get some more pt there.
And then Straansmanngeesi watch out for him. He's one of
the strongest guys in the waiting from what I've been
told at GUARD. But I think that the guys that
you're really intrigued by, some of those transfers that are
brought in typically you get a mercenary transfer they need.
Speaker 5: Those are the guys you're looking at to step up.
Speaker 9: But I'm not concerned because we have one of the
best offensive line coaches in the country. Yeah, TJ is good,
So I'm excited to see how he's going to help them,
you know, progress and move along. And I think we'll
get a couple of good surprises. But I think we're
gonna be just like last year. I think he'll have
like seven, maybe six, seven, eight maybe guys that he
could use.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so all right, I'll give you my I think
for me, realize it where I'm coming from here. So
I think offensively, you retained pretty much everybody, I mean,
minus Parker, right, but you know, you retained all your
coaches and you retained pretty much all your players. You're
gonna lose anyone in the portal, you know, keep it
like last year, who did we lose Keelan Marion? And
it was big time and and Parker's big time. It's
pretty demascat. But like as a whole, you have most
of what you what you expected. Did Keelan leaving BYU?
Impact BYU? Offensively?
Speaker 5: Sure?
Speaker 4: Was it enough to beat Texas Tech? I'm not convinced, right,
And those are your two losses?
Speaker 5: Does that make sense? So it's like I'm okay.
Speaker 4: Like the offense was top twenty five per ESPNSP plus
everyone's returning pretty much. I feel like the offense, even
though I love RB two, even though I want to
see wide receiver one, Kyler Kasper all those things, Like
I'm intrigued. I want to see the new tight ends,
Walker Lines, how good he can be, Roger Sally Paga,
the second other up and coming.
Speaker 5: Guys, and see kind of how they've progressed.
Speaker 4: I think the question mark that everybody has is how
do we replace Jay Hill? How do we replace Jennaro?
How good is the defense? What does the defensive scheme
look like? How good is this defense? What's going to
be the difference, Who's going to be doing. What are
we running a forty front the majority of the time,
we're running a thirty front with a stand up edge rusher.
You know, you know, how good is Demario Warren as
a safety's coach? How good is coach Clark as the
cornerbacks coach?
Speaker 5: Heard some good things about Warren?
Speaker 9: That's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, what's the feedback from the players about the
retained scheme and the additional wrinkles of the scheme.
Speaker 5: Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: I think that's what they're going to get into with
in springball. I think most people when they're looking at
the win loss record, it's similar to what Brian Logan stated.
I was like, hey, what are your expectations right for
the twenty twenty six season?
Speaker 5: Like and I disagreed with him to.
Speaker 4: A degree, but I think there's a lot of BWAYU
fans that feel this way. My baseline, he said, was
always bull eligibility.
Speaker 5: Six win.
Speaker 4: That's the expectation, right, that's quota. But I know that's
not what you're asking Ben. If Jay Hill were still DC,
he said the expectation would be a conference championship appearance minimum.
With first year defense coordinator Kelipapinga, I still expect nine wins,
same philosophy, returning experience, strong recruiting momentum, but not in
the in the one, but Ba's not in the one
player makes a break US era anymore. They've built stability.
But I mean he was alluding like he felt like
there was a drop off or maybe an unknown, because
maybe it's more of an unknown than a drop off.
I think the defense is gonna be good, just as
good or better. I'm a huge advocate for Kelly PIPINGA.
He's extremely intelligent, nobody works harder, and he's gonna combine
some things and elements that I think are gonna be
very beneficial for this defense in twenty twenty six. I
can't wait for him to showcase that. But if you
pulled the BAU fan base as a whole, I think
all of them are like, what's the defense going to
look like without Jay Hill and General? Yeah, that's their
like anxiety, their feel you know, their their fear right now.
And so I'm gonna be addressing that. I'm gonna be
talking about that. I'm gonna be conversing about that. I'm
gonna be focused on that because I understand where Cougar
Nation's coming from and I.
Speaker 5: Want to see it too, right, Yeah, he's the first
time DC. No doubt.
Speaker 4: How good will Kate Popp in this defense be in
twenty twenty six? Will it be the strength of this team?
Will it be you know, you know, kind of a
secondary tertiary strength. Right the last few years, year over year,
the special teams has been the strength. Last year there's
a bit of a drop. They ended up I think
forty fifth or so in special team's efficiency and the
defense and offense we're top twenty five, but the special
teams have been elite. That's what Kate Pop has overseen.
I can't wait to see what he can do with
the defense. Very much intrigued. But I think that's the
biggest storyline going into springball that I'm keeping an eye
on real quick. Uh.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys saw this article.
Speaker 4: Uh, it's entitled the Athletic it's via the Athletic derogatory
chance at BAU games lead to fines and apologies. But
can can Big twelve break the cycle? I want to
delve into that next. But that was our question of
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in this segment. Find it interesting the athletic put out
an article about the Dragons, our chance at BYU and
how the Big twelve he is trying to and b
what he's trying to break the cycle. I know some
of you guys have read through this, but just just
real quick, over the past year by football and basketball
teams have been targeted by these derogatory chants.
Speaker 5: And this has been going on for years, by the way,
I mean I was.
Speaker 4: I remember going to TCU and O six and like
the Mormons, but going out to Boston College.
Speaker 5: Same thing anywhere you go, Like I didn't care. I
wasn't like I.
Speaker 4: I'm desensitized to just about everything that I that I've
heard on and off the football field, and they could
be a good thing or a bad thing at any rate.
Speaker 5: It's an issue. You know, you don't want bigotry you
don't want hate.
Speaker 4: You don't want religious discrimination either, when I've rid ourselves
of all those things. But these chants were directed at
members of the churches just Christ Lottery Saints, and even
non members of the churches just Christ Lottery Saints but
are affiliated with BYU.
Speaker 5: On these Big Twelve road.
Speaker 4: Games, there was incidents at Arizona, Colorado, Cincinnati, and Oklahoma
State four in particular.
Speaker 5: The Big Twelve did.
Speaker 4: Fine stat of the day Oklahoma State fifty thousand dollars
and stated it will not tolerate behavior that targets or
demeans others.
Speaker 5: But we've had similar incident, says.
Speaker 4: Incidents have continued despite fines and apologies, so they continue, right.
I think you of a went out in front, got
out in front of it, and maybe been Tommy Lloyd
that went out and was quoted as hey, do not
engage in in bigotry and religious hate by chanting any
sort of derogatory things to our fans or the team
that's coming into the McHale Center.
Speaker 5: He got out in front of it. Much respect to
him trying to get out in front of it. So
they Brennan did that as well.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, Bret Brenan probably did it as well. Yeah, yeah,
so shout out to those guys. A little music to respect,
little dab figurative dab to you guys, but bay you.
Coach Kevin Young addressed the Chance after the Oklahoma State games,
saying the comments were rooted in hate, explained the personal
impact on his family and players. Church Alison he should
have statement calling the Chance offensive, discriminatory and unacceptable, and
said the conference must move beyond a cycle of apologies
without improvement BYU has performed well competitively in the Big Twelve,
and so like whenever you are winning, you know that
probably gets a little bit more here. If we're losing
every single game, maybe no one would care in football
and basketball, right, but the chances to have become recurring issue.
Speaker 5: On the road at the road venue.
Speaker 4: Some people and some schools have taken steps to address
the problem, including three game sportsmanship messages, coaches speaking to
student sections, bands playing over chance, and removal of offensive offensive.
Speaker 5: Fans experts say.
Speaker 4: Some experts say anti LDS bigotry has become more socially
acceptable in some settings, often fueled by stereotypes and lack
of familiarity. Look, how many Mormons are there in the world.
How many Lattery Saints are there in the world?
Speaker 5: Seventeen million?
Speaker 4: Okay, how many people live in the in the on
the globe, in the in the in the world eight billions,
White cys theory, you conscribe eight billion. We have over
three hundred and thirty three hundred and forty million individuals
here in the United States of America, so seventeen million
small percentage of people, and well ten millions not even
the United States, so like eight million, nine million maybe
at most, or here in the United States of America.
And the half of those don't even don't even claim
to be Mormon because they're probably less active. Does that
make sense that you have, let's say, generously four million
out of the three hundred and fifty or so million
people that are living. And I say, no one knows
any Mormons. I tell people all the time, like you're
only as good as your anecdotes.
Speaker 5: It's not like anyone.
Speaker 4: How many people actually have elbow to elbow, shoulder to
shoulder interpersonal contact with a Latter Day Saint, Very very,
very few, And the only thing that they do see
is on freaking social media and on TV, and it's
always something stupid and crazy, and it's always the outliers
of neuroticism and emotional and psychological instability, and they give
us all a bad name, and I hate it.
Speaker 5: I hate it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, there's like a there's a The Bachelorette. She's
holding the book. My wife showed me the Book of
More Men, My Holy cow man, like that that is
the craziest chick I've ever seen.
Speaker 5: Like, my wife showed me a seventeen videos of this guy.
Speaker 4: I'm like, she's emotionally accepted now, granted all grace like
to her, Like, you know, align yourself, you know, try
to set set up your life to not have.
Speaker 5: You know, to have temporal and spiritual stability in your life.
For the love of all that. The worst thing that
that woman can do is go on to the Bachelor Act.
In my opinion from what I've seen this far, at
any rate, that's what you're working with.
Speaker 4: So I understand ignorant comments because how are Latter day
Saints portrayed around the world and around the country. Really,
Like I've seen too many, like like crime series documentaries
about crazy Mormons too. I'm like, dang man, like, our
outliers are bad are they're not. They don't give us
a good name, and they give us all a crazy name,
so look, we can't have it. I appreciate it. I
do understand why it still exists, though, because human nature
is human nature, and you're only as good as your anecdotes.
Speaker 5: Still so and and and even though we're fast growing.
Speaker 4: Church, it's not like everyone in the country is interacting
with Latter day Saints wherever they go and having great, positive,
overwhelmingly awesome experiences.
Speaker 5: Does that make sense anyway?
Speaker 4: By you and supporters have shown goodwill obviously towards Big
twelve communities through donations fundraising for opposing teams, but those
efforts have not stopped those chants. Even when you went
out to Cincinnati you gave what how many twenty thousand
pounds of food.
Speaker 5: To the students, and the students are like, if the
more Mans.
Speaker 4: No soup for you, then no food stuffs for you, pal,
no soup for you, no soup for you? All you've
signed felt fans anyway, Conference and Bill, you administrator, have
said the goalie is to stop the behavior, not just
issue apologies afterwards. What do you got, guys, anything any
follow up to this? I love just cam Ronnie as
the author of this. By the way, I love the
idea of.
Speaker 6: Fighting hate with light, and so this idea of doing
more donations, doing more food pantry stuff like all that,
because guess what, you can find a school all you want.
Guess how much the student body gives a rip about that? Yeah,
zero percent. But you know what, if we can turn
some version of that bad into a positive. To me,
that's the best thing we can possibly do. They even
talk about it in the in the article about how
like part of this is just like mob mentality, hive
mind of just drunk college students, which I agree with
many of whom, if who probably have Mormon friends, who
probably would would not subscribe to that behavior. You can't
stop an entire group of people from doing something stupid.
What you can do is fight the hate with light.
And so the more of these activities where BYU fans
are donating to a certain cause, it's all you can.
Speaker 5: Do, right, That's all we can do.
Speaker 4: Like I don't even like like complaining about it, quite honestly,
just go down and do good, man, Just go out
and do good, like I always said, Like you know.
Speaker 5: I've had this debate with Latter day Saints.
Speaker 4: I think missions should be more service oriented with a
component of proselyting, rather than proselyting with an element of service.
I think service and making an impact in communities and
being self sacrificing is much more likely to invite others
to just explore the faith because they're experiencing action rather
than words. Does that make sense, Yeah, like I had.
I just think action always trumps words. And we all
feel that. We know that with our own relationships. You know,
you go about doing good, and you're doing it for
the right reason. You're like, look, I just I feel
like I got to give back. I feel like I
make an impact. I feel like I gotta you know,
bring others to like the things that make me happy
and feel like like fill my cup and make me
feel complete.
Speaker 5: That is so much more powerful than say, like, you
know what.
Speaker 4: And the planet Salvation is very romantic, by the way,
I love the plant Salvation, right, one of the most
romantic plans eternal families. You kid me, let's say eternal
love and eternal families. It's romantic, right, But I do
think service trump's pop proselyting. It just does and we
need to be more focused on that. So go about
doing good, go about making an impact, and go about
inviting people to say, look like this is this is
what changed me, transformed me.
Speaker 5: It's it's my faith that I'm a part of.
Speaker 8: You do that.
Speaker 5: It's hard to like sit there and criticize the people
that hate BYU.
Speaker 4: And in Latter day sytem, they're the ones that will
die on the hill of all Mormons. All Latter day
Saints are a bunch of hypocrites that can live up
to their faith. They always fall short, they're always they're there,
bunch of fakers. They're all there. They're hypocrites, they're bigots.
They think they're better than everybody else. They think they're
the leader. That's what they say. And so they justify
their hay through that. Go about and do good, and
really they can't say anything. And hopefully you're doing it
for the right reasons, not just to do, but to become.
There's a difference.
Speaker 9: And when I read this article, the thing that stuck
out to me, like Brick mentioned, is twenty seven thousand
pounds of food that they got y yeah, yeah, to
Oklahoma State and then one hundred and seventy five thousand
dollars they raise help raise for that poor little family
at Texas Tech.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and look.
Speaker 4: Like I do think we all need to take heed
that we do not, you know, share our alms and
thrust our arms out before men to be seen of them.
Otherwise you have no reward. You gotta be judicious about
that too. It's like, no, go about doing good for
the right reason, not just for public relations. And like see, hey,
we go about doing good even though I mean, look,
the church I think has been a humanitarian church for
a long time.
Speaker 5: Only recently have they.
Speaker 4: Begun to like share it with others that they are
doing humanitarian things because no one, no one cares to
cover what good the BYU, what Mormons are doing in
the world more often than not. So you know, if
no one's gonna advocate, remember I always talk about advocates.
Speaker 5: Who's an advocate for BYU, who's an advocate for the.
Speaker 4: Latter day Saint Church, who's a champion to defend the
fruits and the faith? Not many people out there, Unfortunately,
there's not many in your corner. But we can still
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