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<v Speaker 1>It's night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's news video.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I can hear the skin crackling. Now off that bird.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back everybody. Night's that Gary Tangway for Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Gresh is with us. And when I told our

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<v Speaker 2>producer in our program director Gresh Monster, that you were

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<v Speaker 2>coming on, they said, what talk football? I go, No food, food, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of two.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the only two things that it could be.

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<v Speaker 2>So Thanksgiving obviously, this is Thanksgiving week and I did

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast today with the Great Bob Ryan. It is

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful wife and Lane is always in the background and

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<v Speaker 2>the Ryans have like I don't know, like thirty people

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<v Speaker 2>coming in their house or something. And I go, so,

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<v Speaker 2>when are you picking up the food? What do you

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<v Speaker 2>mean picking up the food? I go, you can't your

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<v Speaker 2>whole foods right? Sunbury Farms wrote brother something. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>she's cooking the whole thing. I'm like, are you out

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<v Speaker 2>of your mind?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you?

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I'm at, Like at the Tangwa houses, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going down the whole foods. I got to pick

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<v Speaker 2>it up on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I gotta tell you, I'm kind of doing everything

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<v Speaker 3>from scratch this year, including like a smaller bird with

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like extra turkey breast. You know, you can

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<v Speaker 3>get just like a turkey breast the cavity. So I

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<v Speaker 3>got I got that to kind of make it happen

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<v Speaker 3>this year. Mas. Potatoes are easy, Listen. I get the

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<v Speaker 3>convenience of the whole Foods thing. We've done that the

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<v Speaker 3>past couple of years for various reasons. However, there is

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<v Speaker 3>no excuse to not make homemade mashed potatoes on Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean the fact that I went down and I

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<v Speaker 2>ordered an extra batch today of sweet potatoes. That's an

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<v Speaker 2>American Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, it's the simplest of things. You peel it, you

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<v Speaker 3>boil it, you put like whole milk in it, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's good and butter and there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you need some egg? What about marshmallows?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about mashed potato potatoes. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>sweet Listen, people can have their sweet potatoes. However, on

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<v Speaker 3>Thanksgiving that's kind of cammy in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, you're telling me you don't think sweet

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<v Speaker 2>potatoes are American on Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 3>I gary, it gets in the way. How many let

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<v Speaker 3>me ask you something. How many times have you like,

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<v Speaker 3>how many times have you had I'm trying to remember

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<v Speaker 3>the name of like the pie with the mashed potatoes

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<v Speaker 3>and the stuff like that. I'm drawing a plank. Have

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<v Speaker 3>you ever wanted that with sweet potatoes inside of it?

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that just called sweet potato pie?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it isn't. But I'm talking about like a chicken

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<v Speaker 3>pot pie right right, right, right right, potatoes in chicken

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<v Speaker 3>pot pie. You know what I mean? No, I just

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<v Speaker 3>think it kind of gets in the way. I get

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<v Speaker 3>it for those people who want it, but for me,

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<v Speaker 3>just like I'm picky. I'll tell you what I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Eat, dude, I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the only in the bird will I eat

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<v Speaker 3>the stuffing. I don't eat dressing. I eat stuffing. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a big difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're gonna get to in a minute. And I

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<v Speaker 2>have to say this, like where you've been with with Wait,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been, You've done great. How are you doing right now?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hanging in there, Okay, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>So for a big dude, for a big dude, and

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<v Speaker 2>when we worked covering the Patriots, yep, you are the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest person and the pickiest eater your eater I've ever met.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, honestly, it's been that way since I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>My little nephew's the same way. My little nephew, Hudson. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well he's not so little anymore. It's like thirteen years old,

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<v Speaker 3>but he wants to bring pizza roles to put in

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<v Speaker 3>the air fire because he doesn't like turkey stuffing and

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<v Speaker 3>all that kind of stuff. He's like me, I was

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<v Speaker 3>picky as all kid out. How are the traditional stuff again?

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<v Speaker 3>Turkey stuffing mesh cad Oh, stuffing is in the bird.

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<v Speaker 3>Dressing is what you have on the side and you

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<v Speaker 3>have it in like the cast or all dish, and

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<v Speaker 3>you put that in the oven. It doesn't get the

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<v Speaker 3>extra layer of labor that we'll think about it, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a huge difference. You're cooking all that delicious stuffing

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<v Speaker 3>inside the cavity. Like when people will cook a chicken

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<v Speaker 3>or a bird, sometimes they'll put a bunch of stuff

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<v Speaker 3>inside the cavity. They don't need to. Even if you

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<v Speaker 3>fry a turkey, you can't put the stuffing in there.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's the age. It kind of mets a mets

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of hit or miss. It's not as consistent

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<v Speaker 3>as like frying the bird. But yeah, think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what I'll think. We'll see you're not

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<v Speaker 3>cooking anything for real, So I can't even do this

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<v Speaker 3>with you. But for people who are like human beings

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<v Speaker 3>and cook their own food, but have the dressing on

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<v Speaker 3>the side and cook that and then have it coming

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<v Speaker 3>out of the bird, and I'm telling you it's not

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<v Speaker 3>even close, you'll want to make an extra bird just

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to make extra instead of dressing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I could see that. The great late Bertha tangwe

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<v Speaker 2>always had stuffing in the bird. Oh, I mean she would,

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<v Speaker 2>as I was saying, she would cook with a double boiler.

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<v Speaker 3>My friend, what a cherub too. I bet she had

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<v Speaker 3>the can of baking grease right on the back of

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<v Speaker 3>the stove.

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<v Speaker 2>She totally did. Oh my god, Gresh, were you in

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<v Speaker 2>my kitchen.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the mag gress my grandmother had the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh yeah, we'd put that's where they put

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<v Speaker 2>the fat. And then there's no doubt. And then when

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<v Speaker 2>it came to cranberry, it was none of this, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the slice cranberry, slice cranberry. It wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>actual of cranberries, but the slice cranberry, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm out on cranberry. I don't like it. But if

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have it for my wife, Betty, I'm dead.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have to make sure that the right kind

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<v Speaker 3>slice it and all that crap.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the biggest bird you ever cooked?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Probably I've was sailing an eighteen pounder in a

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<v Speaker 3>frying one. I did one with my brother, wants to

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<v Speaker 3>do one with my pap. That's where I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>learned it and stuff like that. But I know that

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to talk about the fried turkey. Right. Have

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<v Speaker 3>you tasted fried turkey tank?

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<v Speaker 2>You know I have not, but you and Zoe swear

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<v Speaker 2>by it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, here's the thing. There was one year in my

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<v Speaker 3>family when we were at peak fatness, all of us

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<v Speaker 3>across the board, right, and we decided to do like

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<v Speaker 3>a turkey case test challenge. One year, my brother fry

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<v Speaker 3>the turkey, my mom baked one, and then I made

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<v Speaker 3>one in do you remember the Ron Pop Peel Showtime Rotistry?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I made mine in the Showtime Rotistry to prove

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<v Speaker 3>them that it could be done and be just as good. Now. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 3>fried turkey wins out because anytime you have that fried

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<v Speaker 3>turkey wins out, it's just that delicious as that moist

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<v Speaker 3>and you can, you know, you can layer it with

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<v Speaker 3>different kind of seizing under the skin and it's just,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, it's fantastic. But we did that. We

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<v Speaker 3>did that one year. I came in second. My mother

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<v Speaker 3>was hot for like a whole year that her turkey

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<v Speaker 3>didn't win. But like, sorry, that Showtime rochesstery barbecue thing there,

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<v Speaker 3>that was the best like kitchen gimmick I've ever bought

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<v Speaker 3>in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could see your mom. I remember meeting her

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<v Speaker 2>at the cbscne once on Thanksgiving. I can definitely see

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<v Speaker 2>her being a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's right. Oh my god, talk about a story, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's what Patriots at the Lions, right, and we

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<v Speaker 3>were all we were all at CBS scene and like

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<v Speaker 3>the whole Tangway I mean there were a fifty Tangway

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<v Speaker 3>clan people in there for crying out loud. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you know I had oh yeah, freaking rednecks, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we throw my in laws in there to be

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<v Speaker 3>a little classy. And then you know, Nelson, because he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have anything else to do that day or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And oh my god, we all had thanks Giving dinner

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<v Speaker 3>at the CBSC, and I have to say the food

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<v Speaker 3>was actually kind of good, which was rare for that play. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Just my brother in law, Brian Dank, when he ordered

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<v Speaker 2>the nachos, he was psyched. H Listen, how do you

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<v Speaker 2>how do you how do you put the seasoning under

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<v Speaker 2>the skin? Do you do that with a needle?

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<v Speaker 3>No? So what you do is that would be like say,

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<v Speaker 3>if you were to put butter right in the meat

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<v Speaker 3>or the muscle of the turkey.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So here's what you do. You gotta go slow,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know where you would pull like the giblets

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<v Speaker 3>out or whatever. You can kind of run your finger

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<v Speaker 3>right where the skin sort of meets the breast and

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<v Speaker 3>you can just sort of work your hand underneath. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you're a little uneasy about it, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>you can do is like a wooden spoon, Well you

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<v Speaker 3>can flip it over on the handle end and use

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<v Speaker 3>that to kind of put just sort of move and

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<v Speaker 3>separate the skin away from the meat. And then when

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<v Speaker 3>you can get your hand under there, you literally take

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, if you make like a stick of

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<v Speaker 3>flavored butter or something.

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<v Speaker 5>Just shmear that all over your hand, stick your hand

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<v Speaker 5>in there and rub it all over right on the meat.

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<v Speaker 5>And then that way, whenever you fry it or bake

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<v Speaker 5>it or whatever, it's not going on the skin. You

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<v Speaker 5>can still maybe cover that you're baking it with like

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<v Speaker 5>a piece of foil or whatever. But you put that

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<v Speaker 5>delicious buttery goodness right on there and it goes right

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<v Speaker 5>into the meat as it's cooking.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody says buttery goodness like Andy Gresch. Details on how

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<v Speaker 2>to fry a turkey coming up next. This is Nightside

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<v Speaker 2>on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 1>Well back to Dan Ray line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, getting ready for Thanksgiving, Gary tanglea here for Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Ray And you know, if I'm talking football, Andy Gresh

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<v Speaker 2>is talking food right here on wbz's night set. All right, Gretch,

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<v Speaker 2>take me through how do you deep fry or how

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<v Speaker 2>do you fry a turkey?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you need one of the bigger kind of fry

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<v Speaker 3>drum slash barrels, right, so it normally comes whether yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you go like a BJ's or something like that. You

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<v Speaker 3>can go get like your fry later, kid, it'll be

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<v Speaker 3>it'll be like a bigger pot, and it'll have the

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<v Speaker 3>stand where you be able to set it on, and

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<v Speaker 3>you'll you'll have it'll connect like a grill, So like

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<v Speaker 3>the pro paint tank you would have on a grill,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what you would connect it to. Put it in

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<v Speaker 3>an area where it ain't going to catch your house

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<v Speaker 3>on fire. You and I know a spastic former NFL

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback who has focus issues who used to do his

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the trick, Gary, is that depending on how big

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<v Speaker 3>before with your bird, like before you brind it, you

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<v Speaker 3>You should use barbecue gloves that way you don't burn

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<v Speaker 3>and then it cooks way quicker. I forget the minutes

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<v Speaker 3>per pound. I want to say, it's like three. You're

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<v Speaker 3>the frying time on a bird is shorter than it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how do you let me ask you this? How

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<v Speaker 3>It ends up cooking all the way through and evenly

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<v Speaker 3>the outside nice and golden. I'll tell you what. If

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<v Speaker 3>I've screwed up more like turkeys in an oven, where

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm. So you would definitely go with but is it?

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<v Speaker 2>You would definitely go with the fried over the traditional

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<v Speaker 3>But yeahs yeah, because you do have to go, you

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<v Speaker 3>go get pro pain. But you also can't do it

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<v Speaker 3>on you know, the deck of an apartment building. You

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know we've heard of like idiot patriot players of

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<v Speaker 3>the past. You have the pro paint grill, but score

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<v Speaker 3>But no, you got to be smart about it if

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<v Speaker 3>sounds really cool to do, but if you're nervous about

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<v Speaker 3>it and you haven't researched it, then don't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a year and get it right. Hell, you could

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<v Speaker 3>do one for Christmas for crying out loud. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>the turkey. You can have turkey around. It's just synonymous

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<v Speaker 3>with Thanksgiving, which is really the bad people Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a call Andy, let's talk to John and Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>John you're on with Andy gresh yea Hi, good Evening's.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to ask and suggest that maybe frying

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<v Speaker 4>any food and beefat beef tallow would taste better because

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<v Speaker 4>restaurants today McDonald's and so called the burryting they all

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<v Speaker 4>stopped doing that years ago, and even Unlucky fried chickens

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<v Speaker 4>they call it doesn't taste as good as it once did.

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<v Speaker 4>But I would suggest, but I wonder what you're comment

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<v Speaker 4>on that is, because I think it does taste better.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't found a restaurant that's what I like to find.

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<v Speaker 4>It does be fat lid instead of vegetable oil.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, to me, that's kind of a that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>common sense that it would taste really good. That's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of beef tallow though, that would be to me,

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<v Speaker 3>it would day would kind of overpower it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, if you're doing like even like roasted potatoes

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that, so you can throw a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of beef callo in there and let that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of melt down and then slide them into the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the you oven or under a broiler. Oh yeah, delicious,

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<v Speaker 3>All right, John, anything else, Buddy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I just wanted to ask your opinion because I

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<v Speaker 4>wish restaurants would do that, but I haven't found a

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<v Speaker 4>good restaurant. I would pay extra for the quality of

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<v Speaker 4>the case if they did that, but I haven't found any.

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<v Speaker 4>If you know any, let me know on the air well.

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<v Speaker 2>If Gresh opens one up, we'll let you know. Thanks, John,

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate, thank you, all right, take care, all right, Gresh.

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<v Speaker 2>As far again, as far as the danger, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>get that across one more time.

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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, it's very real. If you're nervous about it,

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<v Speaker 3>don't do it. If you don't have the space to

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<v Speaker 3>do it, don't do it. Don't do it inside, God almighty,

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<v Speaker 3>don't do it inside, even in like your open garage

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<v Speaker 3>or anything like that. Don't do it, because it only

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<v Speaker 3>takes one miscalculation of your oil with your turkey going

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<v Speaker 3>in and something bubbling over, and then you got a

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<v Speaker 2>Gresh, let me run down some recipes for you. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>so some alternative dishes for Thanksgiving and get your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, dear lord, if you tell me avocado, I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>gonna hang out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not on the list, all right, thank god.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it feels like it feels like avocados are being

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, avocados. And the other one is kale.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And you know what, man, you either you either

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<v Speaker 3>dig it or you don't. To me. There's no one

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<v Speaker 3>who's like, oh, I kind of like kale. Sometimes you

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<v Speaker 3>dig the bitterer or you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, kaylas like eating sandpaper.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>How about this creamy kale and yaki bake. Nope, here's

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<v Speaker 2>another one. This one I don't understand. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>had pumpkin lasagna?

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard of it, but no, I don't like sandal lasagna.

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<v Speaker 3>Different kind of cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>See, that's another thing. I would think you would love lasagna.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know what it is?

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever that creamy, spready looking cheese that they put on there,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't. I'm not. I like mozzarella cheese. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all that's gonna happen, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the other stink.

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<v Speaker 2>Can anything that is not any Can anything that is

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<v Speaker 2>non animal be a steak?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Any wait, the tofood community's gonna come after.

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<v Speaker 2>You, but squash steaks, that's just okay. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take a stand. If it doesn't move, If

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't move, it's not a steak. Okay, if it does,

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm telling you right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Tomorrow morning at nine o'clock, wbz's very Tegway gone after

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<v Speaker 3>by Big butternut Squash after controversial comments last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe me, it's the holiday week they need me. Is

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing question. Sometimes, you know, as they drive in

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<v Speaker 2>here filling in for Dan Ray, I always think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is how I started. Life goes full circle anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, I'm about to do that Thanksgiving night.

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<v Speaker 2>Cauliflower mushroom sauce.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's another one. Cauliflower. Like when people say you

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<v Speaker 3>can replace pizza crust or cauliflower cross, you can't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't. You can't.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't have time for that.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't. And then I will get deep fried cauliflower

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<v Speaker 2>at a restaurant just to make myself feel better. But

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<v Speaker 2>then I kind of go, what's the point?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, what the point would be is that if

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<v Speaker 3>you had that at about ten thirty after a seven

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<v Speaker 3>o'clock or a four o'clock kick or whatever, and we

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<v Speaker 3>were sitting beside each other, that cauliflower would be causing

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<v Speaker 3>an old factory nightmare. That'd be my worry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would that would be barking. Wouldn't aggresh? Would

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<v Speaker 2>here for Thanksgiving? Beef Wellington? That's not bad. I could

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<v Speaker 2>swing that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's the different relatively traditional holidays fare.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, grapefruit and goat cheese, fedal salad? Nope, nope, nope,

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<v Speaker 2>anything with gret the grapefruit. I don't get a vegan

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<v Speaker 2>meat loaf at well you know, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>can you And here's another thing. You call it vegan,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can't call anything vegan with the word meat

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<v Speaker 2>in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I mean so it wouldn't that really be

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<v Speaker 3>a pescatarian meat loaf that they had some sort.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go that?

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, you gotta give me credit that I knew pescatarian.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got to look that up when we're done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>miso raised car brace carrots. Yes, no, I know, I'm joking. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>goof Korean fried chicken.

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<v Speaker 4>Do that?

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<v Speaker 3>I could do that. A little kimchi in there and

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<v Speaker 3>you'll have some rear end lift off.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. So, Gresh, what is your ultimate give

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<v Speaker 2>us the rundown on your menu? What will be on

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<v Speaker 2>the Gresh table?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, listen, I'm influenced by other people, So there's a

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<v Speaker 3>difference between kind of everything that's gonna happen for all

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<v Speaker 3>of us versus like say, my thoughts of what would

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<v Speaker 3>be a perfect plate. However, here's the menu. I'm doing

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<v Speaker 3>the turkey, I'm doing the stuffing. I have a crock

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<v Speaker 3>pot pack that helps, but I'm gonna put as much

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<v Speaker 3>in the bird as I can. The mashed potatoes I

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<v Speaker 3>do garlic. Corn is just corn and a garlic butter.

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<v Speaker 3>And those microwave bags of corn gary those things are

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<v Speaker 3>actually life savers. In twenty minutes, I got four bags

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<v Speaker 3>of corn. I got enough for everybody at dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the garlic? What's the corn thing? Again?

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<v Speaker 3>So here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever seen like in the frozen section, like

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<v Speaker 3>the steam fresh bags of co Yeah, those things are

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<v Speaker 3>better than your standard like cans that you would get

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<v Speaker 3>off the shelf.

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<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can go for those. You do four of those.

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<v Speaker 3>They are five minutes each, and you take some butter

425
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<v Speaker 3>and put some garlic in an extra butter. Whooh boy,

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<v Speaker 3>it's really tough. It takes you, like, you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>minute and a half of prep and then melting time.

428
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<v Speaker 3>It's super easy, and you end up making like a

429
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<v Speaker 3>garlic potter corn that people think you've like taken time

430
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<v Speaker 3>over in your Michael Waven bags of corn. So it's

431
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<v Speaker 3>a stupid hat. So we kind of have the standards there.

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<v Speaker 3>My wife's skinner demand cranberry. She's making like a sweet

433
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<v Speaker 3>potato something. She's making mac and cheese because mac and

434
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<v Speaker 3>cheese is disgusting. Don't even get me started on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't where did that come from?

436
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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, mac and cheese for a holiday dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, I'm listen, I get it. I've been influenced by

440
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<v Speaker 3>my best friends on that, so I have seen a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of the other side. I just can't do

442
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<v Speaker 3>mac and cheese. You know. It is like when you

443
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<v Speaker 3>make it for your kids and you're stirring it and

444
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<v Speaker 3>you hear like the moisteness of it as you're stirring it.

445
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<v Speaker 3>It freaks me out. My sister in law, though, demanded

446
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<v Speaker 3>that she was making the desserts. She's gonna make brownies. However, Gary,

447
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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm a big fan of the Oreo. It's

448
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<v Speaker 3>an Oreo. It's basically like an Oreo ice cream pie.

449
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<v Speaker 2>Really ooh that's good. So no pumpkin pie.

450
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<v Speaker 3>And my mother in law wants and she'll get it.

451
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<v Speaker 3>My father in law has ice cream there and an

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<v Speaker 3>abundance of it. He'll be thrilled the same with my

453
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<v Speaker 3>brother and my nephew and stuff like that. But the

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<v Speaker 3>brownies are to die for them. My mom's recipe she's

455
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<v Speaker 3>as mayo and that's her happen.

456
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she puts mayo in what in brownies?

457
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<v Speaker 3>When she makes the brownies?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you put mayonnaise in brownies.

459
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<v Speaker 3>I think you've actually had my mom's brownies.

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 3>They're unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>They're they're I didn't realize that. I've never heard of that.

463
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<v Speaker 3>Well, apparently it was like a trick going back to

464
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<v Speaker 3>you know, the nineteen thirties or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Your mom.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Jesus Reitha taught her that, and my mom

467
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<v Speaker 3>made these unbelievable brownies in for forty eight years of

468
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<v Speaker 3>my life, I had no idea what the secret hack was.

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<v Speaker 3>My sister in law caught her doing it at their

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<v Speaker 3>house and was like, is that the secret ingredient? And

471
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<v Speaker 3>she goes, yeah, you people become a genius. I'm just

472
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<v Speaker 3>putting the woman to mayo with theres a substitute for

473
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<v Speaker 3>something along the way. That's what makes those brownies unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>So now my sister in law I kind of duplicate

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<v Speaker 3>that and there you go. There's like the there there's

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<v Speaker 3>the full menu. Tip the tail here, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. Gresh, please hang on. I gotta get your

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<v Speaker 2>opinions on some other things that will wrap it up

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<v Speaker 2>for Andy Gresh, the the Master Chef Gresh with other

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts coming up next here on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, back here with the Gresh pots Andy Gresher Amy

484
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<v Speaker 2>here on WBZ, Gary Tanguay in for Dan tonight. So, Gresh,

485
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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna span the globe with current events here, including

486
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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots. What did you think about the presidential election?

487
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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was a fascinating study in one side

488
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<v Speaker 3>being completely disconnected with their message to the people who

489
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<v Speaker 3>came out in record numbers four years earlier to support them.

490
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<v Speaker 3>You know, when you really look at it, there were

491
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<v Speaker 3>a lot of parts of the country where Donald Trump

492
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<v Speaker 3>did better than he did before against Biden. Those numbers

493
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<v Speaker 3>really weren't that dramatically different in I mean, a couple

494
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<v Speaker 3>of places that did swing things, there's no question, But

495
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<v Speaker 3>when you look at Harris not being able to get

496
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<v Speaker 3>anybody out and not anywhere near the numbers that Biden did.

497
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<v Speaker 3>I don't think the people voting for Trump changed all

498
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<v Speaker 3>that much. I think it was much more reflective of

499
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<v Speaker 3>an ineffective Democratic Party that are losing people left and right.

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<v Speaker 3>The funniest joke I saw on the internet, Garry was

501
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<v Speaker 3>I think it was like Bill Mahers talking about how

502
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<v Speaker 3>certain extremes, you know, on the left are like, we're

503
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<v Speaker 3>not going to have kids for four years, and the

504
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:13.720
<v Speaker 3>lady who was on the panel blurted out, well, we'll

505
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<v Speaker 3>just outpopulate them and then the Republicans win forever. Kind

506
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<v Speaker 3>of like a joke of some of the silliness that

507
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<v Speaker 3>has gone on on that side of the aisle. But

508
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<v Speaker 3>if they don't get it fixed, this is going to

509
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<v Speaker 3>become a party problem, not a Donald Trump problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they'll get it fixed, because you're going to see

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<v Speaker 2>some things change. And I agree what I as far

512
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<v Speaker 2>back as I can remember, since I'm the old bastard

513
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<v Speaker 2>in this conversation, you know, I remember Humpy, when Humphrey

514
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<v Speaker 2>and McGovern and all that. You know, I was four

515
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<v Speaker 2>years old and six years old. I remember when Nixon resigned.

516
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<v Speaker 2>And I remember in a town that I came from

517
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<v Speaker 2>in Rumford, Maine, which was a Democratic town because it

518
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<v Speaker 2>was pro labor, you know, Milltown, and the Democratic Party

519
00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:05.759
<v Speaker 2>was the party of the people. It's completely flip flopped.

520
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<v Speaker 2>The Democratic Party has lost touch on what you said,

521
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<v Speaker 2>would they were more? You know, listen, I love George Clooney,

522
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<v Speaker 2>but when he starts advising who should be running for office,

523
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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what the hell is going on here? You know,

524
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<v Speaker 2>I mean you've got Oprah and you've got Clooney, and

525
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<v Speaker 2>you've got all these you know, Hollywood elite coming in

526
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<v Speaker 2>and people who just are concerned about, you know, living

527
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<v Speaker 2>week to week going What the hell does this have

528
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<v Speaker 2>to do with me? You know, I did have a

529
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<v Speaker 2>terrific guest on earlier, you know, Anthony Russo, as he

530
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<v Speaker 2>pointed out, and it's been documented. I forgot to mention it.

531
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<v Speaker 2>You know, all of these all of these events with

532
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<v Speaker 2>the Hollywood leader, with Oprah. I mean they had to

533
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<v Speaker 2>pay for those, I mean they had.

534
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, twenty million bucks. I think they were in the

535
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<v Speaker 3>hole when it was all said donee Wait a minute.

536
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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so you have to buy the endorsement of a Hollywood.

537
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what the he I mean, that is just

538
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<v Speaker 2>flat out wrong. So you know, I know you're you're

539
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<v Speaker 2>a Pennsylvania born and bred. I think you know, Shapiro,

540
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<v Speaker 2>your guy you know down the road, may have a future.

541
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<v Speaker 2>We're even starting to see. I think some Democrats come

542
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<v Speaker 2>out and maybe lend some more conservative views on certain

543
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<v Speaker 2>social issues they were afraid to before. And I think

544
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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats are going to have to go more to

545
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<v Speaker 2>the middle quite frankly.

546
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And you know, Garrett, I think ultimately the right

547
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<v Speaker 3>will drift a little more towards the middle, because I

548
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<v Speaker 3>know I can safely say this, and you're about ten

549
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 3>years older than me. Love him or hate him, Donald

550
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<v Speaker 3>Trump is the most polarizing political figure that I've seen

551
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<v Speaker 3>in my lifetime and maybe in you know, the history

552
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<v Speaker 3>of our country. There's been no one like him. And

553
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<v Speaker 3>the way he you know, like his gravita, the way

554
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<v Speaker 3>he has grabbed control of things. If that get canned

555
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<v Speaker 3>over to JD. Mance, I don't think that continues. Just

556
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<v Speaker 3>like as soon as kind O Harris had a chance

557
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<v Speaker 3>to jump into Joe Biden's role, everybody saw how flawed

558
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<v Speaker 3>she was. So I wonder if out of this period

559
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<v Speaker 3>of time, in a weird way, we do kind of

560
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<v Speaker 3>start to come back to the middle and at least

561
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<v Speaker 3>live in a little bit closer to reality versus some

562
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<v Speaker 3>of the ways that we were kind of drifting to

563
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<v Speaker 3>that the American public clearly pushed back on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's where America is. I think if

565
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<v Speaker 2>you pulled eighty percent of America, or if you pulled

566
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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent of America, I think eighty percent would

567
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<v Speaker 2>be either just just slightly to the right or slightly

568
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<v Speaker 2>to the left, because we really are a country of

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<v Speaker 2>common sense. The majority of this country is a country

570
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<v Speaker 2>of common sense. It's like reasonable people saying, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't let everybody in that I would like to,

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<v Speaker 2>or I can't. I can't pay for everybody's college if

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<v Speaker 2>they can't afford it. I would like to, but I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Or I think the majority of people say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care if you're gay, if you want to

576
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<v Speaker 2>get married, fine, but you need to pay for it,

577
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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, you know, if you want to

578
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<v Speaker 2>have it. I really believe that. I just believe that

579
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<v Speaker 2>the majority of the country is towards the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>You're absolutely right, there is no way a person can

581
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<v Speaker 3>give themselves up to what they're being said from one

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<v Speaker 3>party or the other. And sadly there are people like that,

583
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<v Speaker 3>and to me, they're ideologically invalid. All they are is

584
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<v Speaker 3>sheep and they're told what to do. Right, if we're

585
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<v Speaker 3>really if we're really, truly honest about it, Most people

586
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<v Speaker 3>make decisions or voting decisions based on their own personal

587
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<v Speaker 3>feelings and their own personal situation. There's no way that

588
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<v Speaker 3>you can be just left or just right in every

589
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:06.240
<v Speaker 3>big decision that you have to make, especially when it

590
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<v Speaker 3>comes to politics. I grew up in western Pennsylvania. It

591
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<v Speaker 3>was very coal miner I met Richie Trumpton when I

592
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<v Speaker 3>was a kid because my dad worked for them at

593
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<v Speaker 3>Nemicole and Mine back in the day. So I know

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<v Speaker 3>all about union and organized labor and all that. I

595
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<v Speaker 3>grew up around that kind of stuff. But at the

596
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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, people vote based on their own

597
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<v Speaker 3>personal situation more than they do their party politics. It's

598
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<v Speaker 3>the party politics only people who are trying to preach

599
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<v Speaker 3>on to everybody else how wor commies or people are

600
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<v Speaker 3>bad for democracy and stuff like that, when all you

601
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<v Speaker 3>want to do is just trying to make the best

602
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<v Speaker 3>decisions for yourself at the end of the day, and

603
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<v Speaker 3>not give a damn of an R or a D.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not that hard.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's true, and it's you know, the economy. You

606
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<v Speaker 2>go and again, you know, as I pointed out at

607
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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the show, Clinton, I don't know, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there's is there a connection here?

609
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<v Speaker 2>Do you have to have an affair to have a

610
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<v Speaker 2>good economy? I mean Clinton had Monica Lewinsky in the

611
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<v Speaker 2>cigar and he balanced the budt like. But that's what

612
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<v Speaker 2>I mean. They are both pigs. I mean they both

613
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<v Speaker 2>can I but people vote for them because of the economy.

614
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<v Speaker 2>They're both They're not nice guys. But you don't have

615
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<v Speaker 2>to put money in my pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>I can validate you what your thought is here, at

617
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<v Speaker 3>least I think I can. And that would be that

618
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<v Speaker 3>when you live in the normal world, right like you

619
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<v Speaker 3>and I have done television and radio and stuff, people

620
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<v Speaker 3>swear in the normal world. Pat McAfee puts that in

621
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<v Speaker 3>the open of his show all the time. That's how

622
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<v Speaker 3>real people talk, right. I think what we found out

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<v Speaker 3>was that there are a lot of people who were

624
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<v Speaker 3>willing to look past some personal transgressions because we have

625
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<v Speaker 3>gone through what the last fifteen years of trying to

626
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<v Speaker 3>change people's thoughts on crime, punishment, things like that, we've

627
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<v Speaker 3>normalized stuff, Oh that guy made a mistake. Well guess

628
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<v Speaker 3>what in my short brain world, I saw online something

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<v Speaker 3>else that Oh I forgot about. Ah, that's not a

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<v Speaker 3>big deal. So and so my favorite rapper did it,

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<v Speaker 3>or actor or whatever. So the end of the day,

632
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:23.599
<v Speaker 3>we've kind of taught people that it isn't the worst

633
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:26.000
<v Speaker 3>thing in the world, and when you fed people the

634
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<v Speaker 3>whole you can come back from it unless we want

635
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<v Speaker 3>to weaponize it and use it against you for a

636
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:35.039
<v Speaker 3>political gain or something like that. It's contradictory of what

637
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 3>we're telling the kids that are growing up today. And

638
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:43.720
<v Speaker 3>clearly America said, hey, listen, he ain't a perfect person. However,

639
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<v Speaker 3>I think he can do a better job than this person.

640
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<v Speaker 3>So while you I got why you kind of paused

641
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.599
<v Speaker 3>and were like, hey, I'm kind of kidding. But at

642
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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, it also kind of put

643
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<v Speaker 3>into where the public lands on some of that stuff

644
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.440
<v Speaker 3>people want to try to throw in the face when

645
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 3>it comes to a nasty political camp.

646
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and I started the show talking about

647
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<v Speaker 2>forty six percent of women, according to Action Polls, voted

648
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<v Speaker 2>for Trump.

649
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:13.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, amazing.

650
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And there's a lot of people who would point

651
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<v Speaker 3>at them and say you are the problem, when it's

652
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:24.440
<v Speaker 3>really the fingers pointing back at them that are the problem.

653
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:26.880
<v Speaker 3>Because people don't want to open up and talk about things.

654
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.240
<v Speaker 3>They want to dictate to people the way we should think.

655
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<v Speaker 3>And at least that's going to stop. Again, it ain't

656
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:35.240
<v Speaker 3>gonna be perfect with Trump. Let's just be real about that.

657
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.960
<v Speaker 3>But if you're into the not being told what to

658
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Speaker 3>do kind of with your life, for hey, taking these

659
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<v Speaker 3>people from another country, then you're gonna get a little

660
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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of normalcy again.

661
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<v Speaker 2>Do you still have the picture of you and me

662
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<v Speaker 2>and Donald on the sideline?

663
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<v Speaker 3>You know what's really funny. It is in we have

664
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<v Speaker 3>like a homework room, office area stuff like that, and

665
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:04.400
<v Speaker 3>it's in there prominently featured where you snuggled up the

666
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<v Speaker 3>side him. I kind of leaned in there a little bit.

667
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 3>It was weird because like Mulaney, it was standing off

668
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 3>to the side like she does even when the guy's like,

669
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<v Speaker 3>you know, give it a big political speech or whatever.

670
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.960
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that was wild. We walked down there and

671
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:18.960
<v Speaker 3>there he was, and you know it was like, let

672
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<v Speaker 3>me introduce you some of my front dog.

673
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we had a chance to talk to Donald. That

674
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<v Speaker 2>was that was That was something else crush. Andy Gresh

675
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:28.960
<v Speaker 2>is with us. I have to ask him some Patriot questions.

676
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Next to WBZ.

677
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

678
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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

679
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:40.559
<v Speaker 2>All right, Gresh, monsters here, Andy Gresh joining us. We've

680
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<v Speaker 2>covered frying a turkey, crazy Thanksgiving recipes, we have fixed

681
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.760
<v Speaker 2>the world politically, and as I wrapped things up, going

682
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:51.239
<v Speaker 2>to touch on a little bit of sports. But I

683
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<v Speaker 2>just saw that Hulk Hogan expects to be named to

684
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<v Speaker 2>a leadership post in the Trump administration.

685
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh, dear lord, hopefully if it's Pyro and Dally who

686
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:05.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, he's the guy who comes out and introduces

687
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:09.079
<v Speaker 3>Trump all the time. Yeah, or or there's a lot

688
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:12.000
<v Speaker 3>of T shirts to be sold, brother, so maybe there's

689
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.519
<v Speaker 3>maybe there's some good merch opportunities.

690
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<v Speaker 2>How about that.

691
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<v Speaker 3>Huh Hulkamania, Oh my god, but you know what Trump

692
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:23.719
<v Speaker 3>Romania is very much alive.

693
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very real. Nope, it is Gresch. I was

694
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:31.880
<v Speaker 2>talking earlier Paul Perilla joined us from Patriots dot Com

695
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and I just after leaving the media, and I just

696
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>drop in now and again, I'm much happier. I have

697
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.639
<v Speaker 2>less money, but I'm much happier. I don't feel I'm

698
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:45.800
<v Speaker 2>not and I'm not and I wasn't even as negative

699
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.199
<v Speaker 2>as as some people. But I don't feel the need

700
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:51.079
<v Speaker 2>to have like a hot topic every day. And I

701
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:53.480
<v Speaker 2>just sit there and I root for Gerrodmeo because I

702
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:55.000
<v Speaker 2>love the man. I worked with him for a couple

703
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:58.280
<v Speaker 2>of years. He's a good human being. Does he survive.

704
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<v Speaker 2>I hope he does. The team's a mess.

705
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's there's a lot going on right now in

706
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:09.159
<v Speaker 3>my opinion, And you're right. I've dealt with Sharad and

707
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:13.519
<v Speaker 3>he did an event right as I was like leaving

708
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.480
<v Speaker 3>the sports Hub. I did an event with him and

709
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:19.079
<v Speaker 3>like Catherine Tappan, and he was fantastic, and you dealt

710
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.920
<v Speaker 3>with him a compki. He's a really good guy. However,

711
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 3>he was clearly in over his head, and I think

712
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<v Speaker 3>the early focus was don't be like Bill. It wasn't

713
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:37.239
<v Speaker 3>be your off self, it was don't be like Bill.

714
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<v Speaker 3>Don't do this less hard ass edge. That's the line

715
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<v Speaker 3>that sticks with me because that's what the organization was

716
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:48.400
<v Speaker 3>really priding itself in and said, oh, everybody can breathe, now,

717
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:52.360
<v Speaker 3>everyone can relax. Everybody does their job, and that's when

718
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:55.880
<v Speaker 3>stuff gets exposed. Gary in Miami, those guys didn't have

719
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 3>any ability to stop the bleeding even a little bit.

720
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 3>They couldn't fix the fact that the left guard Michael

721
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 3>Jordan was getting beat on twists every time that Marcus

722
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Shoones ended up outside on waddle and the getting pants

723
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:11.960
<v Speaker 3>out there. They didn't have the ability to correct that

724
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<v Speaker 3>from a coaching standpoint, or at least mitigate the damage.

725
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:17.920
<v Speaker 3>It exposed a lot of the flaws of the youth

726
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 3>and the coaching staff. And when you hear guys even

727
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.880
<v Speaker 3>kind of half clowning after the game a loss like that,

728
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:25.280
<v Speaker 3>to me, that ain't good.

729
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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, I think that one of the things we

730
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<v Speaker 2>spoke about earlier is that the best coaches, quite frankly,

731
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the times they are not nice guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Well you know, you know, they're demanding and then there's

733
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.760
<v Speaker 3>demanding versus demeaning and all that kind of stuff. But

734
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<v Speaker 3>to your point, those who get the mote, like you know,

735
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Sean McDermott doesn't look like the most personable person, but

736
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<v Speaker 3>can you develop a relationship by demanding greatness out of

737
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 3>these guys? And the end of the day, I think

738
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<v Speaker 3>that's why a lot of there are way more dudes

739
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<v Speaker 3>that hold Bill Belichick in high regard then they do

740
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:10.519
<v Speaker 3>think he's a piece of trash the way that Sante

741
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<v Speaker 3>Samuel does.

742
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you maybe you may you might recall this,

743
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Speaker 2>but Parcel's first year with the Giants was not good.

744
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<v Speaker 3>Nope, and he was a day a d bag. But

745
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<v Speaker 3>from what I.

746
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<v Speaker 2>Understand, if I if I remember the story, correction, he

747
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 2>was a little too nice the first year.

748
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's hard for the nice guy to go

749
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:35.519
<v Speaker 3>to a hard ass certain way to hold people to

750
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:40.000
<v Speaker 3>a standard that they really attack down there, especially early

751
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:43.199
<v Speaker 3>on with Gerrod Mayo. And you know what got me Gary,

752
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, Fourier and I were down there at camp

753
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 3>in August and I was seeing guys like kind of

754
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.960
<v Speaker 3>half assed jog between drills and stuff like that, and

755
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:58.360
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, no, Garry like this. It was like,

756
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:04.280
<v Speaker 3>this doesn't look good, Carol. Some of the bingo, some

757
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.960
<v Speaker 3>of the softness that we've seen during the regular season

758
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:10.119
<v Speaker 3>was so during the preseason.

759
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that look, Bill wasn't necessarily a screamer.

760
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:22.599
<v Speaker 2>He would just cut your ass. And and Wiggy Jamaine,

761
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:28.440
<v Speaker 2>this is Bill talking to Wiggy Jamayne. If you don't

762
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:34.400
<v Speaker 2>make this block, not catch this pass. If you don't

763
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:41.840
<v Speaker 2>make this block, I will cut your ass immediately. And

764
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Jamay was like he knew he would. I mean this

765
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:48.840
<v Speaker 2>this might have been before Wiggy had the big you know,

766
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 2>snowball game, and just say, I will cut your ass immediately.

767
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.199
<v Speaker 2>And I said, what happened? He goes, I made the block,

768
00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:59.360
<v Speaker 2>no question I made And there's not that sort of

769
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<v Speaker 2>a counter. I mean, you know, that's the thing is.

770
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<v Speaker 2>I think they are taking advantage of him, and I

771
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<v Speaker 2>you know, can it can it be fixing? He's going

772
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:08.280
<v Speaker 2>to be back for another year. You got to give

773
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<v Speaker 2>the guy a Oh, there's no question.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's no way Robert Kraft gets rid of Girrod.

775
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<v Speaker 6>And you know what was interesting, and you and I

776
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<v Speaker 6>know the dynamics of everything down there, it was interesting

777
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.719
<v Speaker 6>that no one saw Jonathan Kraft as the girod Mayo

778
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<v Speaker 6>press conference.

779
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 3>Danny Kraft was there, and obviously Robert was there. But

780
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:33.719
<v Speaker 3>eventually it's going to be Jonathan's to run on his

781
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:36.519
<v Speaker 3>own at some point, and I felt like there was

782
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.840
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of separation of church and state at

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<v Speaker 3>least in that moment of the I still reserve my

784
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:47.039
<v Speaker 3>right to make a decision when it's my time. Type

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00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:49.239
<v Speaker 3>of message being sent.

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<v Speaker 2>Mas seen, wellsh listen you have a great holiday, my friend.

787
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:58.519
<v Speaker 3>Thank you Gary, and listen uh YouTube at the real

788
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:03.880
<v Speaker 3>subscribe follow. Got a new YouTube show there. It's really cool.

789
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.960
<v Speaker 2>All right, Maybe you'll fry a turkey for you, all right,

790
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:09.320
<v Speaker 2>see you, Grace, you have a good holiday.

791
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Gary, have a great one, Bud, thank you.

792
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:15.079
<v Speaker 2>See it all right? Coming back, Sam Mettler's going to

793
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:18.679
<v Speaker 2>join us. Here's the moderate from the left coast, will

794
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<v Speaker 2>tell us what happened with this election on WBC's Nightside
