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Speaker 1: Watch brand new faces. I'm your host, Matt, and I'm

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joined tonight by a very special guest. Now we've talked

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about my OCD dick before, and what gets me hard. Okay,

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it's not hot women, it's not this, it's not that.

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What I really love and it gets my OCD going

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is when all the names match. Okay, it makes me

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so excited. So to check out our guest tonight, I'm

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gonna direct you to Twitter only fans, but most importantly fansly. Okay,

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you're gonna head over there and check out Sonny Breeze

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s u n n y b r e zzze across

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all social media, all those fun sites links to everything

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or in the episode description, you know what we always say,

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bare minimum you could do is at least follow these

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folks on social media. The next step payday rolls around. Oh,

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got a little bit of cash. Head on over to

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the fans like ladies and gentlemen, My guests for the evening,

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Sonny Breeze, Sonny, thank you so much for coming on

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with me today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, can I start with the third rudest question you

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can ask a woman, and you should never do it

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as you're talking to them right off the bat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, my I know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Am I allowed to ask? Can I ask how old

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you are?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? I'm twenty three?

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Speaker 1: You look phenomenal. Twenty three works perfect. You got a

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you got a thing about you? Cute young let's dive

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into it now. I grew up listening to rap music.

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I have no idea what those measurements are that guys

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layout for you. I have no concept of what they are.

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So I've kind of come up with my own concept

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of measurements on the show. Right, Can I ask you?

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Do you know what your height is?

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Speaker 2: Well? So it's five foot six and a half. So

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I line and say I'm five foot seven and have

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since I started modeling when I was eighteen, because you.

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Speaker 1: The taller, the better.

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Speaker 2: Sure, so I'll always just say I'm five and seven,

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but I'm five at six five at six and a half.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right? For my foot guys out there not

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necessarily my thing, but I understand why they're into it.

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My goodness, what a shot? Can I ask what shoe

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size you are?

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Speaker 2: I am a size seven, the Lucky number seven.

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Speaker 1: Lucky number seven, And can I ask what cup size

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you are?

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Speaker 2: See?

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Speaker 1: Can I ask if we could maybe give the audience

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a glimpse of this? Yeah, wonderful and they're all real,

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so that's my goodness. Oh okay, oh god shaking. Now

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that that wonderfulness is out of the way, I have

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to ask you, can we dive into it? How did

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you initially decide to get into the adult entertainment industry

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in whatever field that was, whether it was dancing, camming,

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got right into you know, the pay sites like what

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was your first move where you went? Vanilla life just

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doesn't cut it for me anymore. I need to stretch

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this out and try something new that is so cool.

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Speaker 2: So I'm very happy that you asked that. So for me,

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it's a very interesting thing. So for me, modeling was

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a goal. It wasn't something that I thought was possible

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for me. So I started out in feminism advocacy, so

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for women within the industry, like all the politics regarding

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that to get like leaks removed or any like deep

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fakes removed, any type of non consensual imagery removed. That's

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what I actually started out in. So I got into

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modeling through car shows. That's what developed my portfolio, right

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and I realized, like, hey, they want to work with me.

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I can easily model regardless of you know, anything else,

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regardless of the tattoos on the scars, anything with me,

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regarding with what people told me that I could not

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succeed in this industry. For so basically I just found

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a niche and I got very comfortable. So with nude

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modeling and like figure modeling, glamour, I was never not

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uncomfortable with it. I mean I was never. I was

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always very comfortable. I don't believe nudity is a bad thing.

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I hate that people, you know, especially where I'm from.

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I noticed that in Europe and stuff, it's not even

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considered pornography, where in America it is considered born. Yeah

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that's that. I've noticed that, and I've heard that so

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many times, which is crazy. But yeah, So I got

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very comfortable and built it up through lingerie road door

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a bikini, and then I was like, you know what,

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let me just take it off. I want to take

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it off anyway, why not just do it? And so

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long time, and I'm like, you know what, I'm not

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vanilla anyway, I'm not just a model. I do live

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a kink lifestyle like basically my whole I don't live

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like a vanilla lifestyle like. I have a kink okay lifestyle,

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so like it's already a part of my life. And

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I hated hiding that for so long due to my

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political advocacy. Sure, and so that's what actually made me

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decide to like go into the adult industry is for

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the funding for my political advacy and to just let go.

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I wanted to be free and while through once instead

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of trying to hide behind you know what I try

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to do for people. I wanted to live for me.

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Speaker 1: I have a bunch of questions and I want to

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dive into all of them.

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Speaker 2: I gave you a lot. I gave you so much.

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Speaker 1: It was so good though it was so good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's riding up? Is it up? Or down?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Let's try down if possible. But I totally forget it.

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That's Jesus, Wow, you look wonderful. Let me ask this

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dumb question from total ignorance car show modeling. Where is

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that on the hierarchy of like? This is not an insult.

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I swear to you and I'll tell you a personal

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connection if it feels like it's meant to be. Where's

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that like for girls who go to like the liquor

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stores and promote things in like out it is.

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Speaker 2: No, it's promotional modeling, okay, the way like fashion or print.

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I didn't get into that until I had the portfolio

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from the car show.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right. My wife worked at a liquor store

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for many years, and those girls would come in to

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promote you know this guy this that.

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Speaker 2: That's just promotional. It's not by no means. You don't

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even get a salary, and you don't have like protection

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behind the agency, so like any insurance or anything. So

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it's a lot different. It's basically underneath the table for

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promotional modeling, sure, where all the different aspects. It's a

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good bit different.

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Speaker 1: What are are there a few other things that you

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would call promotional modeling? Like, what are some other thing?

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Is it? I remember when I used to drink in bars,

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like twenty years ago, at like clubs, they would have

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girls to come around to have you sign up for stuff.

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Is that promotional modeling? What are some other examples of it?

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Speaker 2: So a lot of girls either they try to come

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by and sell you something or promote a business or product,

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or try to get you to sign up for something.

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I've done that before, especially for like Mac tools, to

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where I'd try to get people to get like raffle

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tickets oh okay, or contests sign ups. Okay, yeah that

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was I mean this was back when I was like nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, this was at.

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Speaker 2: The beginning of my career. And yeah, it was raffle

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modeling and then stuff. And it was good money for

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what you were doing. I mean, what sure, the hard

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Speaker 1: I want to dive into two things. One, your political

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advocacy and your relationship status or the kink you were

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implying that you live a lifestyle of. First off, the advocacy,

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I think that's important. Tell me what it is, what

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you're pushing for, what you want to accomplish with it,

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and how you initially got into whatever the idea is

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that you are promoting.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so, I am an anti trafficking, anti non considual imagery,

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anti child pornography, child sexual abuse material, anti bestiality, anti

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any type of digital exploitation of any kind. I thought

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a thought against this for so many years. I was

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a victim of it from ages thirteen until I was

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about fifteen Wow, from ages eleven to twelve, that's when

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I was assaulted. Wow, and then a lot of those

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videos were then used to exploit me. So basically that's

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where I got into the political advocacy for this for

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women and children. I mean not only women and children either,

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it's for men too, and people who are that don't

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identify with any of those terms at all. So basically

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I've gotten into the fact that we do in our

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society today, we are advanced enough to fight against this issue.

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We are, but a lot of the people, like the

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tech pirates, the huge nonprofits, the government, and a lot

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of people like also in charge of the government that

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would be prosecuted if this were to come out. That

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is the reason why all of these issues have not

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been solved. And what's crazy to me is that they

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try to use you know, producers, pornographers, you know, consensual pornographers,

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and I'm not talking about the people that non consensually.

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Sure try to exploit girls and stuff, because that was

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a thing, but now it's really has changed. But basically

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sex workers. I do feel like our escapegoat only fans, models, producers,

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people that willingly want to do pornography.

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Speaker 1: With their own will.

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Speaker 2: I feel like they are just escapegoat for issues like that,

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and that is completely and utterly wrong. And that's actually

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the reason why this issue hasn't been solved is because

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organizations against the anti trafficking or for the anti trafficking movement,

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excuse me, they want to abolish pornography as a whole

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when it's impossible. Sure, so that is simply a scapegoat. Okay,

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They're not wanting to end digital trafficking. They're wanting to

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end pornography, which makes no sense. Majority of the pornography

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out there, I do hate to say, is consensual, Sure,

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but all the non consensual pornography that isn't verified, that

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doesn't have age verification or can say of those depicted

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in it, why a lot of platforms aren't even allowing

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that anymore.

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Speaker 1: You said, scapegoat, and you you made. You made a

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great point kind of for a theme that I've been

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having through interviews this season, where there's this stigma from

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the outside looking at adult performers in any aspect of it. Right,

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here's the dumb stigma. Obviously I don't apply to that

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and I don't think that, but here's the dumb right,

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here's the dumb IDEA girl wakes up at noon every day,

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then she goes and shoots her porn scene for a

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half hour. She gets her fifty thousand dollars check, comes home,

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doesn't have to work anymore. I totally get it. And

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here's the other thing. Ready, this is this is this

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is the totally from the outside these girls. Oh okay,

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sorry you.

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Speaker 2: Were I'm hearing it, but I'm lying. Good God, Deck,

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I hear so. I really truly do believe.

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Speaker 1: That sounds great, right, I mean I would take Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Didn't get that.

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Speaker 1: So the other aspect of it being exploided the other

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as well. I don't know. I know of Sofa ring.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but like it's crazy because a lot of their

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stuff is behind non disclosure agreements, which is where a

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lot of the like OnlyFans manage it companies, they hide

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behind it to like exploit models. Really, but this is

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such a it's so vast, it's so vast, it's such

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a deep But no, please go on. I just wanted

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to bring that up because it's a major problem with

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younger girls going into an industry they don't really understand.

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Speaker 1: And and that's I've always advocated for that on my show,

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More Knowledge, More Knowledge, more intelligence, go into You wouldn't

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go into a welding job with no experience. You'll burn

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your fucking hand off or scorch your eyes or some

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shit like that.

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Speaker 2: Way, Why what should you go in here with no experience?

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Speaker 1: Now, again, from the outside stigma, I would hit it

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with and say, you're exactly what you said. I believe

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people believe where they go these people are monsters. They

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just they're probably loaded with STDs. They go around and

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make non consensual this and that.

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Speaker 2: You ran through you girls, the boked over a thousand

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people and stuff. I'm like, baby, listen, I'm about in

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the twenties for my body count. And people are surprised

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at that, and I'm like, no, like I'm counting like

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it's in the twenties.

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Speaker 1: You girls literally gave up something like an eight hour

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job at an office for a sixteen hour job. You

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get more, You get tested more than anyone I know

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in my life. Right.

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Speaker 2: No, you safer that way though, and morel Even me

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and my content boyfriend we're talking about that. Yeah, it's

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much safer to hook up within the industry.

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Speaker 1: Than sure sure people are stands in the bar Now,

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let me ask you. If you go up to any

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other adult star in the industry and you say, hey,

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I am advocating for no trafficking and no non consensual content,

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how many of them go, oh, no, I have to

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stop you there, sonny, I like trafficking people like zero

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none this industry.

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Speaker 2: So with mine, it was the modeling the music. A

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lot of them were like, look, we can't promote anything negative.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I know, yeah, I.

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no one is for that in this industry, and if

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they were, then they wouldn't be in it.

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Speaker 1: So so it's crazy to me that they're used as

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a scapegoat when you say, all the excuses that would

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make porn performers undesirable are absolutely untrue.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, like, and the evidence proves that yeah, one

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percent fix everything does because it wouldn't be a thing

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if it were true. With what these A lot of

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the big nonprofits are even trying to say. There's even

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one girl that Gosha. I even say your name, she's

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probably the assume me, so that's why I'm not saying

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her name. So basically she's making money off of survivors

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of non consensual explicit materials for when back when porn

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hubbed it allowed that stuff. So basically, she's profiting off

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of hundreds and hundreds of survivors of that. And keep

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in mind a lot of them are like minors, a

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lot of them were like victims of domestic violence for

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their partner, what record them without the consent and then

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upload it for cruelty purposes? And yeah, she's basically making

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money from a book off of that. And then I'm

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over here trying to raise awareness and say like, hey,

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you know, if you can donate and raise awareness about

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our movement. I mean, our takedown services are completely free.

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We won't share your story with anybody, we won't tell anybody.

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It should be non disclosure. You know. That's one of

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the craziest things that I have seen is that the

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people that say they are against this issue, they exploit

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the survivors right over again. And I'm like, this isn't

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what you should do. Like someone's story should be to them,

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to them. If they're posting about it online, that's different

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because they want people to know about it, you know,

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they want people to know the names. But no, for this,

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it just seems like, are you even really against what

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you're talking about? Because even for huge government organizations like

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Netmeg or National Center against Exploitation, they only advocate for

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like education. They don't actually advocate for any solutions for

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this issue, when there's more than enough solutions for the problem,

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including like prosecution for people who try to track people online. Sure,

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which is crazy to me. It's it's so deep though,

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it's so deep. It's beyond like this industry too. I

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mean it's within the modeling industry, the acting industry, within

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the influencer industry. Because that's actually how I got trafficked

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was unfortunately, they told me I was going to be

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like a huge influencer on musically or musically was the

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TikTok before TikTok. I don't know if a lot of

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people do remember it. I do. It was like a

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fever dream like it's because all the trauma soffer on

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that app. But basically they told me that I was

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going to be the biggest star on that app, and

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so I went and met up with them to make

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a deal and then I ended up basically getting assaulted

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getting room to get it. It's it's very it's not

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what's crazy is like that happened to me in a

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town in Alabama. It's much more prevalent and was much

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more prevalent within twenty fourteen, twenty seventeen. Sure, in the

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West Coast and the northern East Coast, and honestly all

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throughout It wasn't just I mean, I believe it's all

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throughout the world.

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Speaker 1: I do too. Sadly, I think it is a much

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bigger problem than people acknowledge or are willing to admit.

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And I think most of the solutions are too broad,

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like you said, and blanket it. Hey, let's get rid

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of porn in general. I mean, there's other things that no,

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I know, other there's other things in life you could

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apply that to, where a broad wipe away just does

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not fix the problem. A lot of other political issues too,

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And it seems like people always go back to just

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get rid of everything, just fuck it, get rid of it.

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You don't understand these women that are performing in the

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industry and doing it the right way and doing it

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correctly and everything, would want nothing more than just a

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clean list of Hey, you can only do this type

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of stuff. This is all that we accept. All of

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it is within bounds and whatever else, not even like

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crazy stuffing. My rule is, sorry, you know, after your story,

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it's kind of dumb to make this joke. But I

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always say, I don't care what anyone does as long

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as there's no kids or dogs in the room, right right,

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I don't get it right.

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Speaker 2: That's completely an early valid You're not the only one

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i've heard of big corn corn companies say that. I

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say corn because of.

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Speaker 1: The I get whatever you need to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's it called the censorship? Oh, you can't say porn,

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you gotta say corn. It's but no, basically that's kind

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of the main Basically, that's it. That's what I'm against.

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I'm like, listen, if you want to make I don't

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care what type of content. I don't care if you

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are the nastiest, most explicit. I don't care if you

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do bathroom scat, water, sports, puke. No, your content deserves

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to be protected. I don't know what I mean. And

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you don't deserve to be associated with people that do

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and animals.

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Speaker 1: You don't.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of people do associate these people with that,

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which is wrong, Like, no, these are people exercising their

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sexual and ambiguity.

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Speaker 1: And and I can't say it either way.

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Speaker 2: And the gunity you're a sexual experss expression, okay, freedom

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of being able to do that, because a lot of places,

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I do hate to say, they don't have the freedom

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to do that. You're basically going to get executed for

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You're right to express that, which is an in a

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lot of places that I feel like I'm very privileged,

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you know, as an American the.

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Speaker 1: Window.

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Speaker 2: But I know, like I feel like as an American,

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you know, we get that privilege to really exercise this

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even with all the backlash and all the misinformation behind it.

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You know, we are very free to do this type

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of stuff. But yeah, you know, I feel like the

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misinformation that's mainly the main issue.

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Speaker 1: Sure behind Let me ask you this and then I

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would love to dive into your relationship and then some

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of your content too. And again, if this question's too

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hard or too rough, you know, pull me back. How

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did the trauma you went through not turn you off

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to all of this in general? I have a theory

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on it, but I'd love to hear it from you

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if it's the same one, and I'll tell you if

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it's close. How did everything you went through, like you know,

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if I fucking got burned badly by a coffee machine,

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I would never want to drink coffee again. Instead, it

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sounds like you're going, well, let's make coffee exactly the

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way I want to make fucking coffee from now on.

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Tell me, how did you push past that and get

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into this like full time? How are you like? Fuck it,

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I'm pushing forward, I'm turning you know around whatever you

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would say.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, so for me it was to see the

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lifestyle that I could have beyond it. And a lot

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of the people that did, unfortunately abuse me. They were

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not true to what they said they were. They were

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even like at times like a lot older than they

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said that they were, or even that they were affiliated

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with a certain community that they actually were. Not sure,

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But for me and a lot of women out there,

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the dynamic between men and women, it's inevitable. I mean,

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this is how we can pro create and actually create

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a future. Sure, so when you view these dynamics in

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a different way, I do feel like you would suffer

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less and then gain more pleasure, if that makes sense,

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which is why you know? Yes, okay, so I'm not kind.

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Speaker 1: Of no, No, that makes total sense to me. I

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I think what I was going to say is the

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same thing where it almost becomes empowering when you say

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this was taken from me. It was you know, you know,

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injured to me. It caused trauma to me. But this

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is a natural part of life, sexuality, being sexual, you

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get in horny whatever it is that it's almost like

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I can't completely turn myself away from you. Weren't going

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to go be a monk in the hills. You might

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be some day, but you weren't going to be a

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monk in the hills. So what are you going to do?

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And the only way, one of the only ways, I think,

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is to reclaim your power by saying I'm going to

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do this thing that was you know, traumatize for me

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or hurt for me or whatever, and I'm going to

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do it exactly the way I want to make it

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exactly as pleasurable as I want. Is that kind of

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your mindset?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Exactly. I wanted to do what I wanted to do. Okay,

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re barbless of what people trying to exploit me for

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what I wanted to do.

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Speaker 1: Basically, well, let me ask you and then I keep

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mentioning the relationship idea, but I want to jump into

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that since you kind of segued into it there. What

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do you want to do? What is your stuff? Do

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you have a niche? Do you have a thing you love,

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especially that you're trying to get better at. Do you

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like what is the the full totality of your content?

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Do you think yes?

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Speaker 2: So for me, it is definitely the BDSM dynamic and

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a lot of stuff to do with theatrics, acting, the

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facial expressions, the costumes, the dynamics that people want. So

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especially when it comes to like the slave and master concept,

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that's something that I really like to focus on. I mean,

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especially consensually and like how it works, especially from like

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the submissive perspective.

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Speaker 1: Okay, can can And again I I don't want to

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touch on stuff that hurts. But do you think that

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is in there from the experiences you've had in your

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life or is it like you're going back to not

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back to that. I'm sorry, you're putting yourself back in

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a position of not being in control. But in the

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back of your head, you know I am in full

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control of this situation. Here. Is that what it is?

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Speaker 2: No, that's exactly what it is. Okay, So it is

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going a little bit back to it. Well, what's crazy

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is like this is consensual and it's not any way

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out of my control.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I mean it was.

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Speaker 2: Just completely and early different. And it's also something that

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a thought was impossible after experiencing what I did, when

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that's not true.

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Speaker 1: So it was a hill for you to climb over

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and you got there. It's almost like this is, you know,

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a silly analogy, but it's almost like if you got

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beat up. At some point, you may replay it in

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your head, but you may over time go, well, if

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I had just moved this way and hit him differently,

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I win that fight. I knocked that guy out. I

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beat him up real bad. This and night probably not

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great to talk about violence, as we're talking about violence

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and trauma. So I apologize for that, but it's all

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right right, And then eventually you go, hey, in my head,

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that wasn't so big of a deal. Not that it's

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not a big deal, it's just you go, it doesn't

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have to rule my life. I can move forward, right,

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I can accomplish things I want to accomplish exactly. Yeah. Yeah,

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so a loot no your content, then you do a

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lot of is it what is it officially? Is it bondage?

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Is it S and M? What are you? Are you

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doing rope stuff like S and M?

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Speaker 2: Okay, it is and M is sadistic anassocism. Okay, all right,

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you know, unfortunately, I believe it is a display of

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the dynamics of our world, you know, especially with the sims,

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a woman in the dominant n Okay, yeah, I believe

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it's like almost a theatric of our s seconality as demons.

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Speaker 1: Now can I ask this, do you ever switch? Or

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is that just not you're not interested in that?

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00:27:16,079 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: Oh I suck? I No, I don't, God, I would suck.

473
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,160
I'm down to try it. I believe I have the

474
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,759
right person to try it too, But it's final means

475
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:34,599
going to be like a true sayst for some of

476
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,200
the nominatris that I see that are just they own

477
00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:41,759
the role, you know, And I'm like, I don't even

478
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:43,519
know if I could say that with a straight face.

479
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,599
But then they're like, girl, I don't know if I

480
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,519
could get up and bend myself like that and take

481
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:53,200
a shot, and so you know, it's it's it's it's

482
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,759
in your preference, you know.

483
00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:56,559
Speaker 1: As sure?

484
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can imagine them wouldn't want to like

485
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,400
look a man's feet or anything.

486
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. Some of the people

487
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,960
I meet that are a switch. I'm so surprised because

488
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,920
it'll it'll be like you, which is just like a

489
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,359
sweet young girl, and I'm like, there's no way she

490
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,680
could be mean. And then I'll do an interview she's like,

491
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,759
so I'm smashing this guy in the balls and it's like, no, I.

492
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:22,599
Speaker 2: Have a girlfriend like that. Yeah, that's only that. Keep

493
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,359
in mind, this girl ain't one hundred pounds, not even

494
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,680
one hundred pounds, so can we. Yeah, dominat Trix are

495
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,039
real because and like especially in our attitude and stuff,

496
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:42,200
because it is naturally you sure sure attitude in your Yeah.

497
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:48,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. So so what kind of requests do

498
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,160
you do? You do custom videos for people at all?

499
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,240
Or okay, all right, what is your favorite request and

500
00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:59,880
what is the request that is within your realm of doing?

501
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,279
Not like again some ridiculous, crazy stupid requests something gross?

502
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,039
What is something within your realm of doing? But you're

503
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,599
you're kind of bummed out, You're like, ugh, all right,

504
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:12,880
and that's not to disparage anyone who's requesting that or

505
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,680
anything like that. I just always like to understand what

506
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,920
kind of content really gets you excited to make and

507
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,359
what is something you'll make where you're kind of like, eh,

508
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,240
it's all right.

509
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally So for me, my favorite topic content, especially recently,

510
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,200
has been cosplay with the characters like in Bondage in

511
00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:37,039
some type of ways. So I did one recently where

512
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,240
Wonder Woman was tied up with her lasso a truth.

513
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,319
Granted it wasn't really accurate. They did want me to

514
00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:47,960
have my blonde hair and basically be me, but just

515
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:52,799
in the Wonder Woman costume. Okay, so that was That

516
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,079
is so cool and so hot to me. So one

517
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:58,000
thing that I've got to say that I dislike but

518
00:29:58,119 --> 00:30:00,799
that I will do is the deep to where I

519
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,759
will throw up.

520
00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, it's a lot. It's a lot I

521
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:13,880
can imagine. Yet, what are some of the drawbacks of cosplay?

522
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,480
Because I interview so many women who really love it,

523
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,480
especially newer girls coming into the industry, but they haven't

524
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:23,039
really dove all in. I wonder if their answer is

525
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:24,599
the same as your answer.

526
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: That's a lot of work, a lot of work, a

527
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,440
lot of money, and a lot of details.

528
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,359
Speaker 1: Money's the one I hear, yeah.

529
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So cosplays are a ton of money.

530
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,519
So one of my inspirations is a Sweetie Fox, that

531
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,559
really pretty cosplay point Star. She's very famous for solos

532
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,000
and like theov she's done like cute stuff with like

533
00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:57,599
Judy Hops a lot of like furry stuff. Another wo

534
00:30:57,599 --> 00:31:01,839
would have to be anime, steam punk and video games.

535
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,599
That's just don't sure the amount of money now already

536
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,680
know about the whigs, the costumes, the makeup cost is

537
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:13,440
it's a lot. Yeah, it's it's the details and stuff

538
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,319
that really you would either have to like customize them yourself,

539
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,960
which takes a lot of time and materials, or you

540
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,440
can just go ahead and go buy it.

541
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:26,839
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, how is your business intellect

542
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,240
in life and in the industry, Like, is that something

543
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:33,839
where you see it successful, you hear the people doing it.

544
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,839
Do you then start planning like, oh, maybe I'll start

545
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:40,960
putting X amount aside for this, or perhaps if I

546
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:43,200
do more of these types of videos, I can get

547
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,279
a little more sales and put some cash aside or

548
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,160
clear some time and maybe I can work on something.

549
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:51,440
Are you good with the business aspect of it? The marketing,

550
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,279
the pushing to people. Are you just kind of getting

551
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:55,039
rolling with that?

552
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: So for me, I have gotten very much better at it,

553
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:05,519
especially the planning aspect for being you know, independent, It

554
00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:09,480
is very complicated, especially for scheduling you know, the outfits

555
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:13,240
and what to do with them, and when to do

556
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:16,240
with them, and who's going to photograph me in them.

557
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:22,119
It is a lot of scheduling. However, one thing about

558
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,559
this modern day and age is that social media does

559
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,000
make it very simple to market. So there's one benefit

560
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:33,279
I do have. It's mainly just the content, getting a

561
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:39,279
plan to organize said content in how to put it

562
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:42,079
out there. You know, I'm sure it's not too explicit

563
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:45,880
for certain platforms. And then even.

564
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: More, we were taught. I believe you you are fascinating.

565
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,160
We've gone into fifty different directions that are all like

566
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:56,599
I could have hours and hours long conversations about this.

567
00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm a lot, That's what people told me. I'm a lot,

568
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000
you know, I do a lot of especially with the

569
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,359
politics within this, because a lot of people don't seem

570
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:09,000
to understand like, no, there's a yet ton of politics

571
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,880
within this, and so far that's like the main politics

572
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,599
that I'm within, especially since being in politics since I

573
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,160
was eighteen.

574
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: You know, who do you get the most pushback from?

575
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:25,640
Is it business leaders? Is it religious people? Is it

576
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,279
like who won't even hear you out when you start

577
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:31,480
talking about this stuff?

578
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: So a lot of people, actually we're here, We're like,

579
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:39,480
so far everyone that you mentioned will except for the

580
00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:44,039
people that I've noticed that have actually exploited people or

581
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:49,039
that are pro exploiting people that put themselves out there. Sure,

582
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,240
so a lot of people do believe like, hey, if

583
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:54,440
you put yourself out there regardless, you deserve to have

584
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,640
your image manipulation in me type of way. Sure, when no,

585
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,359
many don't even believe that. But the main ones that

586
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,839
I get pushed back from are basically they're uneducated or

587
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,480
they are pro watching people get hurt.

588
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fucked up. Really Yeah, I won't I won't

589
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,719
ask you to name them by name at all. But

590
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,880
are there any websites or specific types or niches of

591
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,760
porn that you have a problem with? Like, you know,

592
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,000
I've interviewed a lot of like older milk women and

593
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,679
they're like, I can't be a step mom. I have kids,

594
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:37,119
Like it's awkward, I can't do it. I understand they

595
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,840
they'll say, like, I understand it's just acting and whatever,

596
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,519
but just something irks me about that. Yeah, it's not that.

597
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,559
Speaker 2: It's not that for a performer. So for me, it

598
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:53,760
would have to be the legitimate like DGLG stuff like okay,

599
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,000
where it's like they're legitimately that is the father and

600
00:34:57,039 --> 00:34:58,400
that is the little girl.

601
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,119
Speaker 1: That they someone promotes that.

602
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: To this day I'm seeing it. So another one for

603
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:10,239
a platform wise has to be so Motherless is bad

604
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,440
about that Motherless, I've heard bad things about ex Hamster.

605
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:19,599
Speaker 1: Another one is, Yeah, to be fair, I think they

606
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,320
just shut Motherless down like two weeks ago, right, yes,

607
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:23,679
I know.

608
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: So unfortunately it is still up in certain countries. Oh okay,

609
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:31,280
I know it's only in Yeah, I know. It's sucks,

610
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,639
doesn't it. Same thing with a lot of videos from

611
00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:39,800
even So a lot of people that have investigated, like

612
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,920
even Epstein Island, they come across abuse videos from like

613
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:47,920
years and years ago, and they're still up there on

614
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:53,800
platforms like Motherless and they're finding them amongst their research,

615
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,440
and I'm like, hey, we're over here trying to advocate

616
00:35:57,519 --> 00:36:01,679
against them even being down there are uploaded. So basically

617
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,440
what we're for especially at you know, the Protect Act,

618
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,000
Protect Your Image and Foundation raw or consent over content.

619
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:11,519
Consent over content is like my movement for like the

620
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:15,639
sex workers and stuff. So basically what we are against

621
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:26,199
is sorry, well but that was like we are against

622
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:29,800
that in general, and even like certain content creators, content

623
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,159
being late on platforms that do amou content like that.

624
00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:40,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's at a lost. It's it's I don't know

625
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:46,039
why anybody, You're right, the only people advocating for this

626
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:48,639
to continue to go or people who are exploiting it

627
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,039
in some way or another.

628
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 2: Right protect pirates or Shorge CEOs that are just so

629
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,000
rich they don't even understand.

630
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

631
00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, even people like that are starting to get against it,

632
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,159
and it's just still becoming such an issue. But it's

633
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,559
honestly because of a lot of the nonprofits and government

634
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:15,000
institutions that are against this, like netmeg and the National

635
00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:19,719
Center Against Exploitation, So they have not done any move

636
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,119
like movement to actually push forward a way to prevent

637
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:28,960
digital trafficking or child sexual abuse, material deed fakes, and

638
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:31,960
any anything else. The only thing that has been passed

639
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:34,880
is to take it down at all. The way back

640
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,440
in twenty twenty four, which has only gotten one prosecution.

641
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,360
Keep in mind at foundation, while we prosecuted over two

642
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:49,679
hundred thousand people, and this is a small nonprofit with two,

643
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:52,320
you know, like about four people running it.

644
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,119
Speaker 1: What is the biggest industry story of this? I think

645
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:02,960
I know, But is there one that's like the milestone

646
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,239
of bad as far as the industry goes, You.

647
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 2: Would have to be like the trafficking hub or like

648
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,400
all the people that were actually exploiting people that like

649
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,639
they kidnapped or abused on certain platforms. Yeah, there was

650
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:24,679
a huge movement you know against trafficking between twenty twenty

651
00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:28,360
and twenty twenty two. I noticed that really exploited so

652
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,840
many different aspects and so many different also agents.

653
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

654
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: That girl's do poorn that exploited one of my friends

655
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,679
too when.

656
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: She was just a little girl was six.

657
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: That's that's not seriously, Yeah, that man right there is

658
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,920
going he's still in prison to this day. There's a

659
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:54,079
friend that I know in the penitentiary that trying to

660
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,760
go talk to him, but uh, basically he's separated from

661
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,559
all other Sure.

662
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, now yeah, I how about what if we did this?

663
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,000
What if instead of advocating to try and get this

664
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,079
stuff pulled down. We started advocating to get those people

665
00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:11,960
into gen pop.

666
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: Okay, get them out executed.

667
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: I don't.

668
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,039
Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, I'm like, can we just

669
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,559
actually start brutalizing these people. I mean, we're not talking

670
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:25,559
about brutalizing somebody that has struggled their whole life. Sure,

671
00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:29,639
no dealing with drugs or like, hey listen, I'm going

672
00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:31,719
down for drug trafficking. But this is what I've been

673
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,400
doing since I was thirteen and stuff, which sucks, but

674
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,119
it's true. But that's what I feel like the death

675
00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:42,719
penalty is argued against. Is like, like, no, these people

676
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,280
should get the automatic death penalty. There needs to be

677
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,719
a whole different aspect of criminal justice that deals with

678
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,239
these certain type of crimes.

679
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,519
Speaker 1: Truly, and with that sentence, you became the hottest girl

680
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:57,920
I've ever talked to on this show. I could not

681
00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:02,599
agree with you more. I am generally anti death penalty,

682
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,719
but I can make I am one hundred, one hundred percent.

683
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,840
You go, oh, this guy trafficked and you know, fucked them,

684
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,199
messed around, did whatever with one hundred girls. I go, oh, good,

685
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,320
where's the fire pit? Throw them in.

686
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like they used to burn women for less. Yeah, yeah,

687
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:25,000
they used to burn women for talking about the ball.

688
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. All right, let me let me just quickly

689
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:36,000
move into hopefully happier situation. You mentioned the relationship. What

690
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,760
is the dynamics of the relationship? Uh? And I say relationship.

691
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,920
It sounds like relationships.

692
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: All in memory.

693
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: Okay, are you right now? Okay, okay, all right, with

694
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:53,480
the potential to add more folks by the way.

695
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: Too, No, maybe two right now because the other one

696
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,960
is that I've kind of straight up away because I'm

697
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,039
not sure if it's healthy or not, you know, but

698
00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:06,760
I know it's it's good either way, you know, no

699
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:09,519
bad feelings, which is good. It's like a lot of

700
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:13,280
people have terrible feelings, sure, and like I hate that.

701
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,559
Speaker 1: But three, what is your dynamic? Then? What what is

702
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:20,920
if you don't mind again, you don't have to give

703
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,119
me their jobs or social Security numbers? But right, you know.

704
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: But no, So the first one and that is my

705
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,920
main one, which is the one that I believe that

706
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:36,800
saved me. That is Daddy, which is also my husband,

707
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,320
So he is like my main dom, my daddy and

708
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:49,159
my main provider, my main caretaker for like, if I struggle,

709
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:52,480
if like I get a depressive episode, like he'll help

710
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:56,920
me and then such. But he's also just like a

711
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,840
main authority figure in my life. So the second one,

712
00:42:03,079 --> 00:42:07,679
I'm just gonna go ahead to my main dom or

713
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,159
like this said, the sadist dom or my main bondage

714
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,639
and stuff and a bunch of stuff to experience you know,

715
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:22,599
real snm jntwork. So that was him, and it was

716
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,320
a Sadis and Massacus situation, a real slave and master

717
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:33,000
situation two where like I had to follow rules and

718
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,519
certain expectations for that to work out.

719
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:41,559
Speaker 1: Okay, and still do okay, all right, do either of

720
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:45,079
those two appear in your videos at all or any

721
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:46,519
of your content? No?

722
00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: Not these two? So only one the so his rigging

723
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,400
would appear, but not him. Okay, okay, I try to

724
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,039
keep If they want to be probably then I don't go.

725
00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:02,159
Speaker 1: You know, I don't play with that, so let me now, Okay,

726
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,400
do you do any boy girl content then?

727
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: Or oh?

728
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so you do? And is that with the third

729
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,119
person there?

730
00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: So the no that one? It was only recently too,

731
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,760
that's what's crazy. So with me, I recently went into

732
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,719
boy girl last summer when I really just wanted to

733
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,320
expand upon it, and then my sex drive was just

734
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:29,119
going crazy and everyone was like, you know what, just

735
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:33,480
try it, see what happens. And I ended up loving

736
00:43:33,519 --> 00:43:37,320
it and meeting amazing people, and so I just expanded

737
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:42,239
into full blorn, full blone porn, full blonde fetishes, full

738
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,039
blonde kink and everything to express myself and also to

739
00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:49,920
quit hiding apart about me. But as for number three,

740
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,559
Blake Ross, yeah, that's the one I create content with

741
00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:59,039
and that you can see me indefinitely with. Okay, he

742
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:06,000
is the first relationship I had my age ever. Okay, yeah,

743
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:08,480
I haven't been a relationship with anyone my age as

744
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:09,519
I was like fourteen.

745
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: Sorry, well I know, I know.

746
00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: So he has been the only one, which is very interesting.

747
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:21,199
We can actually, you know, have a future together. So

748
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,480
that has been really amazing. To also see someone that's

749
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:26,440
also like me and in the industry and that likes

750
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,719
things that I like. That has been very cool.

751
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: Now, how do you know? And this again, this comes

752
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,480
from a place of ignorance, not malice, Like, I don't know,

753
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:43,719
how do you how does it not feel? I don't know,

754
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,679
I don't even know. How to word this. I've been

755
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,840
with my wife for nineteen years. We met when I

756
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,159
was twenty years old. Eighteen years. I apologize to wife.

757
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,320
It's yeah, totally monogamous. So that's a lot. No, that's different,

758
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,239
it's a lot. How do you do each of them

759
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,760
do something separately or individually to make you feel like

760
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,599
you are a part of them, not just you're this

761
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,519
hot girl that we're either rigging up or banging or

762
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:16,559
this and that. Do you ever worry about that or

763
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,920
have that feeling at all? Or how do you push

764
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,880
that out of your mind that you know, I don't know.

765
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,119
I don't know. Maybe there's not even a good question there,

766
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:27,559
if I'm being honest with you. I just almost feel

767
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:30,480
like if my wife was with me for a portion

768
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:32,599
of time and then with another guy and with another guy,

769
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,039
that doesn't mean I don't love her, but I don't

770
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,400
know if those other two are just with her to

771
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,760
fuck her or if they really care about her, And like,

772
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,960
how do you establish those boundaries and everything else in

773
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,199
a relationship like that?

774
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,159
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So the main thing has to be is that

775
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,119
they are within the king community too, okay, and that

776
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:57,559
they do understand on the dynamics and do also know

777
00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:00,920
the truths. Sure, I don't like life to people. I

778
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,920
don't like the like cheating dynamic that is actually pretty

779
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,599
prevalent within these type of things. You don't have to

780
00:46:10,639 --> 00:46:15,440
be that way at all. So basically, the main dynamic

781
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:18,239
does have to be for your kink in that they

782
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,519
do provide a certain service for me in ways that

783
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,599
others may not be able to provide. I understand that

784
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:29,679
I'm a lot gotcha. By no means am I the

785
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,719
only one in their lives. I'm okay with them having

786
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,760
other girlfriends as long as they're not like abusing them

787
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,360
or anything.

788
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, sure, yeah.

789
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 2: Friends amusic because yeah that happened one time, and I'm like,

790
00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:45,119
you need to stay away from her. She's just gonna

791
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:48,639
continue to treat you bad. Yeah I know, I know.

792
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: So let me ask in a polyamorous or polly, what

793
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,760
is the one you referred to it as? Is it different?

794
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: Both they're the same? Polls just short.

795
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:05,079
Speaker 1: For okay relationship? Do you feel like you are getting

796
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:09,599
different pieces from each person you're with for different things

797
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,000
like if you had you know, this guy does X,

798
00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:16,280
Y and Z, and that's what I like him for

799
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,880
this person does ABC or do you ever have to

800
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,840
try and manage the whole alphabet with each person?

801
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: So for me in my situation, it is the first end,

802
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,239
as in, this guy does a B and this die

803
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,559
dismand does B or CD and then the other one

804
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:39,559
does you know yeah x y Z yeah right, And

805
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,840
like I don't like not telling the truth about that,

806
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:46,000
but that is what it is for me. Sure is

807
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:49,440
like it's different in each relationship for me totally.

808
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: So last question I have for here, By the way,

809
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:55,159
my guest today, Sunny Breeze links to everything or in

810
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:59,199
the episode description. But I will say it again because

811
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,599
it makes me so excpt because the fucking names match

812
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:06,039
Twitter only fans and most importantly fans lead at Sonny

813
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:11,679
s u n n Y Breeze bre Zzze links to

814
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,199
everything in the episode description. My last question for you, Sonny,

815
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,079
what is the next plateau? What are we trying to hit?

816
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,159
Is far at both things all things? What is the

817
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,400
next plateau we're trying to hit with the activist movement?

818
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,840
But also what is your next porn adult industry plateau

819
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:32,159
you're trying to get to? So let's take it obviously,

820
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:34,159
if I asked you just that flat out. The more

821
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:37,079
important thing, no offense to your career, is helping out

822
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:40,000
all those people. But give me both. I want to

823
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,880
hear too, what are some of the things you're really

824
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,599
looking forward to in this industry?

825
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 2: So the main thing I'm looking forward to definitely is

826
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,239
the sex workers for Safeties for Safety movement. Okay, you know,

827
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,360
I want six who's to feel not as much discriminated again,

828
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,239
says they do with the anti trafficking movement, I think

829
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,000
it's bullshit. It doesn't add up. You're blaming them the

830
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:07,119
wrong people. It's like I said, escapegoat Sure, it's just

831
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:11,159
so wrong. Another thing that I do want is that

832
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,480
sex workers to know resources and to also get behind

833
00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:17,119
an issue like this. I have heard of a lot

834
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:20,719
of big models, you know, donating money into like feeding

835
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,960
America and stuff, But a lot of that money really

836
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,079
does not go to hungry families. It goes to the

837
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:31,440
corporations behind it to where there is a lot of charities,

838
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,000
to where it does go straight to the person's running it.

839
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:39,239
And they're also pro you. Which is why I am

840
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:43,719
pro foundation role and pro consent over content. Is because

841
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,320
we are trying to make a movement for that I'm

842
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,159
also really trying to organize maybe like events and get

843
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:57,000
togethers for sw's because I know there's a million out there.

844
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,280
I even went to one recently, some a funfair. It

845
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,079
was amazing. Everybody loved I loved sharing what I had

846
00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:07,719
to say. All of the people followed me. It was amazing.

847
00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: Sure, how about how about career wise? Like what are

848
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,280
you interested in shooting for any mainstream scenes? Are you

849
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,239
interested in shooting any type of scenes? Are we throwing

850
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,639
in some kind of gang bang?

851
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 2: Like?

852
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: What is what is a goal we're shooting for this year?

853
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,000
Something where we go I want to film my first blank.

854
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,119
Speaker 2: Yes, So for me, it is going to be going

855
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:34,440
to be filming my first PCA that goes viral for

856
00:50:34,639 --> 00:50:40,599
the Sex Workers for Safety campaign for Career Rise definitely

857
00:50:40,679 --> 00:50:45,719
expanding with the Ideal Models with Danny considering that he

858
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,840
has been blacklisted within like the agency's forborn because he

859
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,920
called out one oh one, which is crazy because One

860
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,559
on one Models has been nothing but negative for is

861
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:59,440
everybody in the industry. I don't understand why him calling

862
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,800
them out has put him in such a negative position,

863
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,920
but that's really jacked up. But I mean the same

864
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,360
thing with me and the woman that I advocate for.

865
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:14,039
She has been doing nothing but fighting against you know,

866
00:51:14,159 --> 00:51:17,400
child born and then and then gets blacklisted by huge

867
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,760
government agencies against child born that had not solved the problem.

868
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:25,400
So it's kind of like it's very telling, you know,

869
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,760
you there's corruption everywhere.

870
00:51:29,639 --> 00:51:32,159
Speaker 1: Well, you asked, why would they do that? Why would

871
00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:36,119
they you know, come down on somebody, you know, even

872
00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:38,360
though they were talking about right here.

873
00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: Money they're threatened, Yes, they're threatened, and it threatens their

874
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,320
money because we don't we haven't got any money. Why

875
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,400
do you think I did the of the freaking you

876
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,000
know what I mean? And this has come down to

877
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:53,920
like even taking there was a certain situation this year with.

878
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:59,559
Speaker 1: Grock x oh I remember, yeahs.

879
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 2: So a lot of young girls that they're not in

880
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,840
the industry whatso fucking ever, they would just post selfies

881
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,159
of themselves and have them manipulated. So and this isn't

882
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:15,400
just one thing, it's a lot of like young influencers, YouTubers.

883
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:18,440
I know that family family vlogging is a huge thing

884
00:52:18,519 --> 00:52:22,760
now that has been a problem, but just non consensual

885
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,719
imagery in general, regardens of player of minor or not.

886
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,519
That's that's so dangerous. And when you think about it,

887
00:52:31,039 --> 00:52:38,679
even celebrities politicians have had theirselves themselves manipulated to say

888
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,599
certain things that they never said, or do certain things

889
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:45,400
that they ever did. It's it's beyond dangerous. It really is,

890
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:48,480
I mean beyond even the explicit imagery part of it.

891
00:52:49,519 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: I have been asking performers this season how they feel

892
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,639
about AI. I think I know your answer. I I

893
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,679
totally understand it from the person relation.

894
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:04,159
Speaker 2: But like, if there's no actual federal law against it,

895
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,360
there's no way that we can actually and so far

896
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:10,440
none of the federal laws against it or moving forward,

897
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:16,360
and they're being ignored. It's complicated. It's very complicated. The

898
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,400
government really does take advantage of the fact that a

899
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,679
lot of people do not read legislation or bills, and

900
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,480
so they can just pass them without anyone ever knowing.

901
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: Just with a headline, you know what you could do,

902
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,199
drag and paste chat gpt hey summarize this bill for me.

903
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,039
That's twelve hundred pages. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. It

904
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:43,840
is true, it is true. I'm not advocating. I advocate

905
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,280
for AI more as a better google, not a image

906
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,159
creation thing.

907
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: No that's different. No, that's different. Yeah, completely literally different.

908
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:55,119
But no, that's actually one of the big problems.

909
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: What's one of the big problems that's not.

910
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: Being used properly. But yeahs also just not regulated, which

911
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,440
is even bigger.

912
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: We'll get there, Ladies and gentlemen, my guest today, Sonny Breeze.

913
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,000
You can find her on Twitter OnlyFans, most importantly fansly

914
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,159
at Sonny Breeze with three z's in the middle s

915
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,960
U n n y b r e zz Sonny Breeze,

916
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,559
thank you so much for coming on with me tonight.

917
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:27,719
You are not just a gorgeous girl, not just someone

918
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,039
who creates what looks like quality content. You are beyond

919
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:33,960
that in a sense. You are trying to help other people,

920
00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:38,440
which I think is special and should be congratulated and

921
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,920
should be emphasized. So I would ask too, when we're

922
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,719
done with this and whatever, I'll talk to you. But

923
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,920
I would love to include some links to some resources

924
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,000
in your episode in the description, So if you folks

925
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,559
are out there and you did want any of those references,

926
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,760
or if you, you know, are a woman considering getting

927
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,480
into this industry or a man. Again, this problem affects

928
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:04,639
a lot of people, dominantly women, but men are affected

929
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:08,719
as well, right, yes, yes, so please check in the

930
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,599
episode description after you sign up for our fansly, because

931
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:14,840
we've got to get some cash to these folks so

932
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,639
that we can make change in this world. You heard

933
00:55:17,639 --> 00:55:20,320
what she just said, Ladies and gentlemen, Sunny Breeze Sonny,

934
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,840
thanks so much for coming on with me tonight.

935
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,639
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, especially for having me