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Speaker 2: But he's time to get to another vote.

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Speaker 3: Let's get prep get ready for that BYU TCU matchup.

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The BYU Cougars are balling out in the Big twelve

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and TCU. They're a good team. Guys, don't get a twist.

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Eleven to five on the season one and two in

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Big twelve play. They have two consecutive losses, but they've

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been competitive in those losses. They lost by fourd to Kansas.

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That was at Kansas, who was on the road, and

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then they lost to U of A. They were competitive there.

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They did lose by thirteen but this team can win.

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This team can score with the best of them. And

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they got some great athletes as well, so they've got

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some nice victory. Look, they barely lost to Michigan sixty

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seven to sixty three as well. So a talented team,

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a well coached team. And we're familiar with a few

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of those guys that are repping that that purple down

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there at TCU, and they're gonna be coming into the

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marriage center.

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and now we got the fight song bringing him in.

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I love that I told this man like, had you

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not transferred by you would have made to another sweet.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen in my opinion, But he took us town.

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Speaker 3: Some marquette got buckets there, played overseas and now he's

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doing great things with TCU.

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome in, Matt Carlo to the show. What's up, Matt, hey, Ben?

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Speaker 4: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing awesome, brother. How are you? How's the fam?

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How's everything going?

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Speaker 5: Everything's great, man, everything's great.

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Speaker 4: Can't complain love it man.

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Speaker 3: We'll give us an update, give us a brief rundown

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of what's keeping you busy these days. I know you're

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part of the TCU horn Frogs basketball analysis team. What

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else did you got cooking? Where you're living?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: Give us update on all the things.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm back and forth worth. I was

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a graduate assistant for Jamie Dixon back in twenty nineteen,

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twenty twenty one season, when Desmond Baine was here and

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we had some good players, Mike Miles, RJ and Mhart.

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A lot of guys got a chance in the NBA

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and uh yeah, back here with my wife her her

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sister was a beach volleyball coach. Here they just won

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the national championship uh in the spring. So we're uh,

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we're happy to be back here. And I'm working for

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a company called higginbotham uh selling insurance. So all is

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well on my end, and just feel super blessed to

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be here and I'm coming out back to the Marriott Center.

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Speaker 2: It's freaking awesome.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: Hey, and you were you were a baller man. People

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don't People don't realize like you're were of the best

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guards to ever play at b YU in my opinion,

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the fantastic score underrated distributor of the basketball as well

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had a handle very very rarely prior to the the

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k Y era, right when we're getting the rob wrights

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and all this stuff, it was a bit of a

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novelty to have a point guard that could break a pass,

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pressed through the through the bounce.

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Speaker 2: You know you were one of those guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I appreciate that. I you know, there's

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been so many good players to come through BYU.

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Speaker 4: I think you can get lost in the shuffle sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: But we loved watching to play at Brigham And congratulations

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on all of your success. What are you looking forward

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to getting back into the merrit Center, and I guess

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calling this game, you're gonna be doing color. You're gonna

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be doing sideline reporting. What do you mean doing for

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the the TCU Hornfrogs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do the.

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Speaker 5: Color with a great Brian Estridge calls the games play

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by play for TCU and yeah, I'm excited, and b

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YU as a really good team. TCU, like you said,

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really good team. Should have won at Kansas, really could

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have and should have.

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Speaker 4: Maybe beat Michigan too. They're very good, have some good

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wins and a lot of talent.

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Speaker 5: So looking forward, I've kind of was joking after our

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last game we played Arizona and we we've faced Darren Peterson,

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CoA Pete and now AJ in this next one, so

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we kind of went through the gauntlet of the the

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big freshman. So I'm looking forward to to see how

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AJ stacks up with with the rest of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to watch it as well.

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Speaker 3: Let's uh, let's do a little breakdown of who TCU is,

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what the team composition looks like, what the culture's like there,

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what type of what the style of play that they have.

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Speaker 2: Give us a little synopsis.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Coach Dixon, he's done an amazing job of just

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developing talent. Got a really good guard and Brock Harding,

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who can really he can really share the boy, he's

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a really good passer. David Punch who's a sophomore, good

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big guy. They got some other really good pieces Michael

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Robinson h and another guy in Xavier Edmonds who.

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Speaker 4: Was the number one of the number one JUCO big guys.

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Speaker 5: So they got pieces TCU's pieces, and uh, you know,

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the country, Like I said, at developing talent, but also

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game planning for teams, and BYU obviously has some really

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talented guys, So I think it should be interesting to

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see the matchup and how how they game plan for him.

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Speaker 2: You're you're a well versed experience.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you grew up getting buckets, right, You played

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NBA G League. What type of ball is being played

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in the Big twelve Matt right, Like, you're very familiar

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with this, Uh, I call it the the G League

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with university logos.

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Speaker 2: What type of ball is being played right now? Oh man.

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Speaker 5: I mean I watched the U of A team against

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TCU at Sholmeyer at TCU, I mean, it was ridiculous.

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you know, there's a lot of guys I work with

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who go to various Big twelve schools and they're just like, yeah,

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you get done with BYU in Provo, and then you

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got to go play Calvin Sampson at Houston, and then

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next thing you know, you're you're playing at Iowa State,

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towards the bottom of the league. I told before conference

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play started, I told a lot of people I said,

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you can have not a good team, but I think

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like a really good team and have a really bad

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record in the Big Twelve. It's just it is what

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it is. Every night is a fight to get a win,

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different styles of play. It honestly reminds me of an

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upscale version of the old Mountain West.

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Speaker 3: I like the breakdown and excited for this game. What

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do you know about BYU? Have you been able to

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scout the coups.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I know they got you know, right

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and Saunders and the Bonza and.

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Speaker 4: Other than that, I know that they just have a bunch.

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Speaker 5: Of guys who are solid, they can play. I've watched

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Bonza and honestly out of the three just on film.

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think he's the best freshman that I've seen. Just has

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the most upside and you know, just an incredible talent.

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since he, you know, was a freshman basically, and I

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know what he's capable of. He just does so much

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on the court and right obviously a Baylor guy, now

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BUYU guy. That was an extremely good get for them

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bringing him in to compliment those guys. So you know,

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Speaker 4: Obviously, being on the other side of it.

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Speaker 5: I knew it was always hard for teams to come

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in and win at the Marriott Center, so it'll be

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a challenge for TCU. But like Coach Dixon always says,

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every game is a challenge in the Big Twelve, and

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it's just no different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the SEC in football talks about a gauntlet. That

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ain't no gauntlet anymore. The true gauntlet is in the

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Speaker 5: That's funny that you said that, because that was literally

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a conversation at the office today, someone said that the

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SEC football is nothing compared to Big twelve basketball.

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's no joke, and it's been very entertaining to

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watch know if sands or buts about it. Look, you

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the transfer portal. Okay, you mentioned these guards, Rob Wright,

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that was a good acquisition.

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Speaker 2: I remember when.

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Speaker 3: BYU got you, that was a fantastic acquisition. Was coming

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off the Jimmer ferdet era. We were looking for another

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guard that could score, that could distribute, that could play

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good defense. And for those that don't know, Matt Carlino

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played in ninety six games, including seventy one starts during

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his three year career at BYU. Average twelve point five points,

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four point six assists, three point three rebounds per game.

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point five percent from the three point line, seventy one

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point two percent from the Charity Stripe, scored in double

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figures fifty nine times and career high thirty twice. Second

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in steals per game I think in BA at the time,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're still there, but it's right there.

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Speaker 3: Fourth and assist per game, seventh and three point field

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goal attempts in BAU basketball history, and the seventh in

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steals at one hundred and sixty one, Eighth in ten

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assist games at three. I'm going down the list, man,

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your ninth all time and assist and so you you

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were getting buckets like, tell me what your thoughts are

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on the transfer portal, how it impacts college athletics in

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this day and age.

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Speaker 5: Man, that's a whole segment in and of itself. I

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you know, I'm glad the ear that I played in

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even though I did transfer. I mean, not to toot

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my own horn, but I did all that in two

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and a half seasons, not even three. So but you know,

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more transfers would have would have happened back then. It's

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free agency every year, and it's just one of those

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things that I'm glad that I got to play at

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just two places in Marquette, and BYU and because you know,

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you're just getting more money and you know, you get

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to experience. I mean, maybe at the most you stay

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Speaker 4: Because it's just a good fit.

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Speaker 5: But you know, it's just so wild. I don't want

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Speaker 4: I I'm I was told that I transferred a lot,

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and I've made the pitch. I've texted you this. I'm like, hey, B,

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why you have B, Why you retained you and you

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not transferred. I know there's a lot of things that

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move and uh, you know, certain roles and playing time

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and vision of coaches and scheme. There's a lot of

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things that contribute to transfers. We all know that, and

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it's even more complicated now than ever. But if you

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could go back and do it, again. And I know

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you loved your time at Marquette. You balled out there.

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You had a great time there and were featured and

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it got to see a lot of different things, that

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experienced a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of different things.

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Speaker 3: If you go back and do it again, would you

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have stuck it out at Brigham and led us to

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another Sweet sixteen baby, because I guarantee you we go

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sweet sixteen with you.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't live my life with regrets. But

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you know, unfortunately at Marquette we didn't win as much.

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I enjoyed winning a lot. I loved all my teammates.

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I still stay in touch with them from BYU, And

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you know, it was really it was kind of sad.

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It was sad for me to leave BYU. I didn't

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necessarily want to leave BYU.

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Speaker 4: In a lot of ways, kind.

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Speaker 5: Of felt like I was forced my hand a little bit.

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I don't know if you remember, I kind of came

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off the bench as one of the best players in

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the conference my junior year, so I feel like they

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just kind of and you were a team captain.

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Speaker 2: I think you were a team captain.

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Speaker 3: I was, and one of the best players, and they

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moved you kind of to a six man role, which

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was tough.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it wasn't only that. I think they just

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had a little bit different vision. They wanted, you know,

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to feature some other guys more maybe, And I don't know,

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like if we would have went to a Sweet sixteen,

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of course, it's easy to sit here and say that

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we would have.

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Speaker 4: But we did have a lot of talent on that team.

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Speaker 5: And you know, honestly, the year before, I definitely think.

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Speaker 4: We would have beat.

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Speaker 5: Oregon if we would have had a healthy Kyle Collinsworth

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my junior year, because you know, we should have beat

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them in your gene that same year. So and then

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who knows what happens after that you win one, you

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start to build some confidence.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I mean, I know.

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Speaker 5: I felt my time in at Buyu is awesome. I

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loved all of my teammates there. I still a close

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with them and speak with them, and it was it

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was sad and I had had to leave vieu Iu.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was looking at the two thousand and fourteen

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twenty fifteen roster and what was there and what we

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what we lacked with you not being there, And look,

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I I'm.

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Speaker 2: In sports radio. So I lived my life in the past,

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so you don't have to. But I we talk about

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the future. We talk about the past a lot, and

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we do talk about the present.

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Speaker 3: But you know, Tyler Hawes was a senior that year,

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Kyle Causers was a junior. We had Jake Toolson as

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a freshman obviously became a good player. Anson Winder was

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a senior. Kyle Davis, I think transfer from Utah State

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as a as a junior, Frank Bartley, Skyler Halford. Because

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we lost you, you know, we acquired we know, went

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into the JUCO ranks. And I remember Frank Bartley in

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the in the Old Miss game in the NCAA tournament,

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he had to play some point guard. We just didn't

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have a point guard. We turned the ball over a

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lot in in that NCUBA tournament game. Corbyn Cafus and

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Luke Worthington, Jamal Aids, Isaac Nielsen, Dalton Nixon.

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Speaker 2: It was a good squad.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was definitely guard heavy, and it would

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have been more guard heavy with you, but you needed

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scores and you need ball handlers. On that team, we

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had some good shooters. Chase Fisher was a live a

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transfer from Wake Forest and he was a good bucket

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getter And obviously we know how good Tyler Hawes and

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Kyle Collinsworth were and he had young stars and and

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Jake Toolson, but I did oh, Josh Sharp Senior also

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kind of a slasher type, small forward type.

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Speaker 2: You were, you were.

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Speaker 3: Familiar with his game, but uh, what we missed, in

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my opinion was a ball handler and a distributor.

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Speaker 2: And you know, is it I mean, look, is it?

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Are we far enough removed to Tom?

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Speaker 3: We didn't prep for this, By the way, we're just

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talking and I'm getting a bunch of texts because they

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love hearing from you, by the way, the fans love

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hearing from you, mat But like, are we far enough

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away removed now to say, okay, like what was you know,

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the key contributing factors to why you ended up transferred?

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Speaker 2: I know you alluded to it a little bit, and.

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Speaker 3: You know, are we far enough way now to talk

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about specifics or do we want to keep it you

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know general?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean I they kind of came to me my

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junior year and just you know, you said some of

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the stats and what they brought me in to do,

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and they were like, hey, you're you're not a point

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guard anymore. And I was like, what do you mean,

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I'm not a point guard. I'm leading the conference and

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like assists and like, at that point, I don't think

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I was leading, but I think my junior year I

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did lead the conference and assist the turnover ratio. And

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I was like, okay, so what are we doing here?

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And they just said, hey, we want to like move

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you to the two. And I was like, all right,

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like ill, I'll try it out. Well, I've never played

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the two in our offense or anything. And I actually

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remember it was the Eugene game at Oregon. It was

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around that time when we were kind of making the

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switch or they wanted to just move me strictly off

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ball to the two. And I was just like, hey,

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you know, I'll try to do whatever. I don't agree

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with this, but i'll do whatever, you know, and to

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try to help us win. And it was one of

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those things where you know, it was what it was.

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And I think they wanted to move Kyle Collinsworth to

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the point and just basically have him do the majority

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of the ball handling. And I was like, you know,

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that's all great, but it doesn't really seem like I'm

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too much of a fit. Like I even told him

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straight up, I said, you should play Anton Winder. He's

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been playing the two all year and I think, you know,

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he knows more of it and he's more comfortable with it.

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I straight up told him that. And then it just

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got to the point.

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Speaker 4: Where there was friction there.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, it was kind of just that was the

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start of it, and when they moved me to the

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bench and things of that nature, I kind of just

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was like, Okay, well, if this is kind of the

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way that you view me and what I've tried to

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do for the team being a captain, then you know,

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I feel like there's a lot of friction there. Even

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though I love love that coaching staff and I've still

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talked to them, it was just a difference in opinion

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of I guess who they thought I was as a

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player and where they wanted me to fit in. But

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you know, I still talk to all those guys. I

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talked to Pope, I talked I've talked to coach Rose,

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and like I said, I've had amazing relationships with my teammates,

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but there was just a lot of turmoil that I

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was kind of upset about and felt like they kind

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of forced my hand and yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, dude, I completely understand it.

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Speaker 3: I'll continue to live in the past and say, hey,

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what if what if we could have synergized a little bit,

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what if we could have have figured out a way

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to still have you at point and in the in

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the starting rotation, right, and and you know, I mean, look,

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there's offenses that you can get creative.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to have a primary point guard anymore.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's kind of an uh, even in even in

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that day and age, right, I mean we're talking about

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a little over a decade ago.

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Speaker 2: It's not like you have to have a primary your

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only point guard. Right.

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Speaker 3: You have sets, you have I mean, you have you

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have five out offenses. Now, all these guys can handle.

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Look at Ajtabonsa. He's a point forward, for the love

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of pete. Do we really have to put labels on it?

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And I think once you start to put labels on

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things too, uh, that's where it's like, well, oh, it's

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like this identity crisis. It's like to me, it's about

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you know, utilization and scheme and and winning and uh,

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you know, like if you're if you're a fantastic ballhandler

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that averages averages five assists per game, well, you should

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probably still be distributing the basketball, would be a primary

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ball handler some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And that was always a struggle for me. I

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was probably my best I was always asked to score

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and was able to score, But my best attribute was

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probably facilitating. And I think, you know, Kyle Collinsworth was

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also a great facilitator from his position, And then you

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had guys that were just natural, more natural scorers like

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a Ty Hawes, who I thought it could have been

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a great mix, and it was at times, but I

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don't know why. It seemed like they could never like

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we could just never synergize the whole thing, because truthfully,

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you called out me being a part of like that

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Sweet sixteen the next year, but in reality.

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Speaker 4: They needed Eric Meika.

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Speaker 5: They needed him and he was unbelievable and I don't

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even think we got that enough out of him. We

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could have got more because he was just an extreme talent.

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So that that junior year team when we lost to Oregon,

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I think if Kyle's healthy, we were very we were

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very good. And I think if we could have gone

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far that year, and if Mika would have I mean,

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he went on a mission so, but that next year,

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if they would have had him, they would have went

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an farther.

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Speaker 3: Now, we didn't have a big the following year, right, well,

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we had a four man. Kyle Davis was a nice

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pickup for for BYU that year. But Eric obviously essentially

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a borderline NBA guy I mean, definitely a G League

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overseas guy that could play.

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Speaker 2: He played forever.

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Speaker 3: Just a big, strong, fast, explosive, you know, pick and

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roll kind of specialists that can run in transition. And

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he had pretty good back to the basket game as well,

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even in his youth.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: But you're right, there's definitely an argument to be made

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there in case he getting injured that season definitely hurt.

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But like I said, I still think the NCAA tournament

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is run by guards, the guard line.

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Speaker 2: It's not the bigs. I really believe that year.

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Speaker 3: I believe if you can have four or five guys

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that can all handle and all, you know, get their

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set set shots in, they can create for themselves and others,

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that's a winning formula.

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Speaker 2: I think if you can master it. You know, it's

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not hard.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's not it's not easy, but if you

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can if you can get that dialed in, you can

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go a long way to the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 2: And that's that was their weakness, honestly.

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Speaker 3: That years, like you know, breaking presses, getting the ball

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of court, if Kyle got in foul, trouble versus all miss,

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and then you didn't have a backup guard you didn't like.

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Anson was was decent, but he's not as you know,

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he wasn't necessarily a point guard.

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Speaker 2: He's more of a two.

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Speaker 3: Skyler was more of a two. He was more of

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a scoring guard. Frank Bartley was more of a two

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at the time. He developed into a point guard, but

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he was more of a two. We had a bunch

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of twos everywhere. Even Tyler Hawes is a two three

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right Chase Fisher was a two. We had a ton

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of twos. We had only one one. I'm doing everything

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I can. I'm offering up the world to a guy

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that for for my for my ones. I need my

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ones too, and and Kyle and and Matt to me

475
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needed to be the ones.

476
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Speaker 2: And it's it's hard. I understand, it's not easy, but

477
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that was my pitch h at that time.

478
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I'll let you live in the past.

479
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Speaker 3: I shall Matt Carlito Matt. Let's break down a little

480
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bit more of this b YU TCU game. How do

481
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you see this game playing out?

482
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Speaker 5: Yeah, like I said, I think that, Uh, you know,

483
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TCU has a really good team coach kicks and teams

484
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are extremely tough. He's one, like I said, he's one

485
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of the best coaches in the country at game planning

486
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and his staff does an amazing job.

487
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Speaker 4: Uh, They're gonna play.

488
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Speaker 5: Hard, and I think it'll be you know, I haven't

489
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dove into BUYU and and got into the numbers and

490
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what makes them really kick. Just more of a personnel

491
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standpoint is what I've seen.

492
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Speaker 4: But like I said, it's.

493
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Speaker 5: Really hard to win in the Marriott Center. But TCU,

494
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you know, we can play anyone tough, and I think

495
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that if b YU, the thing that is going to

496
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be big for TCU is not letting b YU get

497
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on those runs because when you get on a run

498
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in the Marriott Center, it's tough. I mean, they were

499
00:25:28,279 --> 00:25:31,319
just at Kansas and the same thing happens. So you know,

500
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for TCU, I think what they need to do is

501
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just stay consistent and whether those storms. If they can

502
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do that, they'll have a chance to win. There and

503
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b Yu. You know, I think it's going to be

504
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,440
come down to fifty to fifty balls for them. And

505
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because this TCU team is tough, so if they can

506
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rebound and win the fifty to fifty battle, I think

507
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they'll they'll have a good night.

508
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Speaker 3: I hope we give you a standing go when you're

509
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announced as one of the analyss here on the play

510
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by play Matt Carlino. Ladies and gentlemen, say hi to

511
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him at the Marriage Center when you see him, and

512
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welcome him back to a place where he made a

513
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ton of memories for us and produced at a high level. Matt,

514
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we appreciate you man, Thanks for hopping on, Thanks for

515
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catching up with us.

516
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Speaker 2: We'll see you down at Marriott Center tomorrow.

517
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Speaker 4: Thanks, man, really appreciate it.

518
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Speaker 2: Yeah, much love to you and your family. That's Matt Carlino.

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coming out of Brigham, all the topics we've approaching today.

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Just got off the line with Matt Carlino, the one

543
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of the best point guards in my opinion in BAU

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basketball history.

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Speaker 2: Did that in two and a half seasons.

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Speaker 3: Statistical out output was very impressive, which we could have

547
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retained him for an additional year to the lead us

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to glory and victory along with Tyler Hallis Kyle Colls

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within the crew guard heavy line would have been beautiful

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in my opinion, and it just didn't come to fruition.

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Speaker 2: You will not be disappointed with your choice. Let's get

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out to the high line.

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Speaker 3: Welcome at Double D. Darnell Dixon of the Daily Herald

570
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was up Double D.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well with good that you're talking to a

572
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fellow lefty and Matt Carlino. I hope he's doing well

573
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and hope you have a good call tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, we were saying were we able to Were

575
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you able to catch any of the interview with Matt?

576
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Speaker 1: I was not, but I'm gonna go definitely go back

577
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and listen to it.

578
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to check it out. Let me know

579
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what you think, buddy. I was great catching up with

580
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Matt Carlino. What's been keeping you busy, Double d U.

581
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I know you've been typing up writing up all manner

582
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of Cougar sports content for all the consumers out there

583
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in Cougar Country.

584
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Speaker 1: Well, I got to apologize to anybody who does follow me.

585
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I wasn't able to do much at the Utah game

586
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because the wireless wasn't working on press Row and Utah

587
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,319
they're not very interested in getting it to work. So

588
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:50,319
there are a lot of us that cover BYU that

589
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weren't able to tweet out what we fought or or

590
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you know, make in game kind of comments. But other

591
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than that, working on obviously lots of b why you

592
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asball stories b YU men's volleyball as well, and we

593
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have the women's volleyball program hired new coach last week,

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So the sports other than football are getting a little

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of my attention right now.

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Speaker 2: Hey, all good, all gravy.

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Speaker 3: The the headlines right now are all transfer portal related.

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Speaker 2: It's something I know you love to talk about, the

599
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nil transfer portal era.

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Speaker 3: But b YU is bringing some return missionaries home to

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the state of Utah.

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Speaker 2: Guys like Kada Ulauave coming back home.

603
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Speaker 3: You got guys like Zak Yamauchi from Stanford who are

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returned who's a return missionary, Jake Clifton from Kansas State,

605
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and you got some some good walker Lions from USC.

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Your thoughts, your reactions to the seven acquisitions via the

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portal for b Yu.

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Speaker 1: Well, Ben, I do have to admit, even when I'm

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working on other stories, if I happen to see some

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information or get some information about a transfer portal, ad

611
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I stop and go to my list and make sure

612
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I add them in because I want to keep track

613
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of all of this. A couple of things that stand

614
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out to me.

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Speaker 3: One is it.

616
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Speaker 1: Seems as if most of the guys' bo youth getting

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has more. They have more than one year of eligibility remaining,

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and I think that's great because as good as players

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can be transferring over that first year, the second year,

620
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I think they can be even better. So there's there's

621
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some good opportunities for BYU to build their offensive line

622
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and linebacker spots with guys who will have multiple chances

623
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in multiple years to play there. I feel like they've

624
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addressed some needs on the offensive line and with tight

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end and strengthen the linebacker spot. I still think they

626
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need to get a few defensive linemen. I'd like to

627
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see another playmaking wide receiver with maybe some stats. Nothing

628
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against Kyle Kaffer, who seemed like you would be a

629
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nice prospect, but I'd like to see them go after

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somebody who may maybe the smaller school that put up

631
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good stats it's out there and just add to those

632
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playmakers on the wide receiver group. But so far it's

633
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doing it. The crews are doing well. We've gone through

634
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this several times since the transfer portal kicked in. The

635
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one year b YU had close to sixty new players,

636
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and that following year they kind of struggled. So I

637
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think they're reaching up right now. Will you take into

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account seniors that have graduated and guys have left through

639
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the portal and return missionaries that are leaving that kind

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of thing. You're upwards of thirty now, and I think

641
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that's probably they don't want to go too much higher

642
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than that because the more you go beyond that, I

643
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think you create some issues for yourself. And you know,

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and we've seen it happen at BYU, So I think

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they're in a pretty good spot right now.

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Speaker 3: One of the questions that we've posed you mentioned it,

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does by you football have a wide receiver one in

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your opinion?

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Speaker 2: No, And.

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Speaker 1: I really feel like it's been so easy just to

651
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point to Chase Roberts every year for the last three

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years and say there he is. He's the number one

653
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of the guys returning. You know, Parker is a playmaker

654
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for sure, and I think Jojo Phillips has the ability,

655
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but he was hurt last year, so we never really

656
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got to see what he would be. So I would

657
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definitely like to see them go after. As I mentioned

658
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that a receiver or two in the portal that could

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step up possibly be number one. I think bear Bachmeyer

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needs that. I think it was great for him to

661
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step up as the starting quarterback and I have someone

662
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,359
like Chase robertson throw to. It was automatic on third

663
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downs and could get open and make great catches and

664
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stance against those guys that are coming back. Nobody really

665
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has that resume, so either somebody steps forward as the

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number one or they have to go out and get one.

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So I think that's still in the process for the Cougars.

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Speaker 3: Double d Darnell Dixon here on ESPN the Fan, I

669
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think there are many others that kind of feel the

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same way as you do. You could look at Parker Kingston,

671
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and Parker Kingston very well could become a wide receiver one.

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In my opinion, he career, he elevated his play this

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seasons as a playmaker. I think for BYU a man

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that could create space in restricted areas and can kind

675
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of take the top off if needed. But he was

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mostly coming out of the slot, and I've been really

677
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impressed with him. Do you think maybe Parker, out of

678
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all the guys, could end up being that wide receiver

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one this next year.

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Speaker 1: He seems to have a pretty good rapport with bar Backmeyer.

681
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Looks like those guys have worked a lot together to

682
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get that going. Yeah. Maybe, I mean I like Parker.

683
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I think he's a very good player. He does as

684
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you mentioned, in tight spaces, he can create a little

685
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bit of a separation and that's certainly helpful. And he's

686
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does double duty as a punt returner and make some

687
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difference there as well. But you like to have somebody

688
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that's durable, and the Parker is a little smaller, so

689
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not that he can't get through the season as the

690
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number one, but at the number one gets more targets,

691
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it's more times getting hit, and you like your number ones.

692
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So maybe he'd be a little bit bigger and sturdier

693
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so they can take that pounding. So we'll see what

694
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happens there.

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Speaker 3: Darnell, I didn't think that BYU needed linebackers, but they

696
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got two of them, an All acc player in Kate

697
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Ulauave and then they picked up Jake Clifton from Kansas State.

698
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Speaker 2: Why pick up two more linebackers. Seemed like we're pretty pretty.

699
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Speaker 1: Full there are we, Yeah, but I think that if

700
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you take a look at the twenty twenty five season,

701
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there were enough injuries at that spot where they were

702
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having to dig pretty far down in the depth chart.

703
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And they have some good depth there, there's no question

704
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about that. But not only injuries to you know, Kobe

705
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,679
Bryant Struther was having a pretty good start to a season.

706
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He got hurt, but and then he had Isaiah Glaster

707
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and got banged up, and Jack Kelly got banged up.

708
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:02,119
It's just a position that lends itself to guys that

709
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are going to get hurt, and so they're in Cielo

710
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Serra I think missing time as well. So I think

711
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,639
they're going after some depth there with not just you know,

712
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,519
second or third string type guys, but number one guys,

713
00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:17,159
so they can maybe either replace those guys that get

714
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,360
hurt or maybe give them a few less reps so

715
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,440
that they're a little bit stronger. This season goes on.

716
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 3: Darnelle Dixon here, on your Utah ESPN Radio network. They

717
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,360
picked up three offensive lineman Zach Yamoucci, Poki Few and

718
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:37,840
then Junior Sia from Utah State. All three have starting experience.

719
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,159
All three were sought after in the NC in the

720
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,800
in the transfer portal by.

721
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: P four institutions.

722
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 3: What does it say like three offensive linemen? I thought

723
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,119
we had plenty of talent along that offensive line. Why

724
00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:56,039
do you think they were so aggressive and obtaining three

725
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,000
portal offensive linemen.

726
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: Well, it seems like those three guys are largely interior

727
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,360
offensive lineman if I'm not mistaken. They did have some

728
00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:09,639
injuries there. And you know, as a coach, your job

729
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,159
is to create the best room you possibly can and

730
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,760
if there is somebody that wants to come, that will

731
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,960
make your room stronger and make the competition stronger. I

732
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,320
think the offensive line is definitely one of those spots.

733
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,440
So that's in my mind, that's why yu is bringing

734
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,639
in those three offensive linemen, because they want that offensive

735
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:32,440
line to be very competitive, and they want the guys

736
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:34,840
that are coming back not to get comfortable and keep

737
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,199
working hard and they're to be really good competition in practice,

738
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,000
and that's really their job. And with a position like

739
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:43,519
offensive line, where we have five of them and you

740
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:45,519
want to be able to rotate a few through and

741
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:47,960
there's going to be injuries and things. You always want

742
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,960
to build that depth, and again you want to build

743
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:53,840
the ability to have just great competition in practice to

744
00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:57,440
put guys in positions to make your offenses the best

745
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:57,880
that you can.

746
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: Arnell, let's get prepped for some BYU basketball, shall we.

747
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,159
I know that's that's one of your favorite sports. You're

748
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:09,159
a hooper, You're you're You're like a left handed gymmer

749
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,559
on the floor. A gold medalist of bucket getting is

750
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:14,519
what you are and don't get. In truth, he does

751
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:19,079
have gold medals. Cougarnation to those that don't know, b

752
00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:21,679
always fifteen and one right now. The only loss is

753
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,559
the Yukon Man. It seems like the always trending in

754
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:28,320
the direction of of finally getting the monkey after back

755
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,559
for the most the most NCAA appearances without reaching the

756
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:33,159
final four.

757
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 2: It is this the year? Is this the year double d?

758
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: It very well could be. There are still a few concerns.

759
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,519
One of those is the number of minutes that that

760
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,760
Aj Debons and Richie Saunders and Rob Wright are playing

761
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:49,519
that can wear you out a little bit. And it's

762
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:51,960
a little higher for your top three players than it's

763
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,960
been in the past. I feel like their bench play

764
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,679
and the subs have been a little inconsistent. They need

765
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,440
that to show up a little bit. But there was

766
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,280
still winning games their only losses. You mentioned to Yukon.

767
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:10,280
Even Kevin Young, who doesn't really comment that much on

768
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:15,159
you know, things like poles and and and and uh,

769
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,559
you know, numbers, that kind of thing. Uh, he did

770
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,039
mention on Monday when you talked to him, he said, Hey, look,

771
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:22,800
we were nine. We dropped two spots after you won

772
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,559
three games. What's up with that? And we all know,

773
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,559
and I've been a voter on the AP Basketball Poll,

774
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,639
it doesn't make some sense. Sometimes it's difficult, but there

775
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,239
it just means there's a lot of good teams in

776
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,760
this in this in this country. And and Nebraska and

777
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,679
Vanderbilt are both undefeated. So they jumped over b yucause

778
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:45,840
they haven't lost yet, and a lot of that as

779
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,880
a product of who you've played. You know, B B

780
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:51,320
YU right now sitting pretty but they are facing a

781
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,480
pretty tough schedule. They've got Arizona twice, They've got to

782
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,360
go to Kansas. We've got Texas Tech at home on Saturday,

783
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,760
so in another another game against Utah, which they showed

784
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,840
you know, Utah, if they play the way they're capable,

785
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,920
can hang with anybody. So there's a lot left to

786
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,519
be decided. And this is a really good basketball team.

787
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:16,639
This is a team that has a lot of options

788
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,159
on the offense if teams want to do what Utah

789
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,079
did and just double team aj as soon as he

790
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:24,599
gets the ball, Whichie goes for twenty four and Rob

791
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:28,199
Wright goes for twenty three. So they're difficult to guard,

792
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,760
and they're getting better defensively. I still think there's some

793
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,960
things they can do to shore that up, and again,

794
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,199
as I mentioned, their guys coming off the bench need

795
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,119
to be a little more consistent. But it's a really

796
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:40,119
good team and the possibility of getting to the Final

797
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:43,159
Four with this team is better than it's probably been

798
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,880
in ever since Jimmer played. I mean, this is a

799
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:51,119
program that Kevin Young has built to get there, and

800
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,360
even last year, just this first year, he's able to

801
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,599
get to this week sixteen, and then they've made some

802
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,119
adjustments defensively and brought in different players and appear to

803
00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:00,480
be on a really good pawer right now.

804
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a great team.

805
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:08,599
Speaker 3: And look they're they're trending in a direction that I

806
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,039
think is unprecedented. It's it's pretty incredible to watch, and

807
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:16,480
I'm loving every minute of it. Obviously, that was close one,

808
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:19,719
though at the Huntsman Center. It's a close one by

809
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,079
the skin of their teeth. They got by it. Like

810
00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:23,920
many other teams before them.

811
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: It didn't have to be close, and by You did

812
00:41:26,559 --> 00:41:28,840
some free throws that it would have probably been a

813
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,760
little close to a double digit win. But that's what

814
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,400
happens in this in the I by U you guys series,

815
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,239
We've seen it in all sports but men's basketball. It's

816
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,400
been kind of crazy that BYU hasn't won up there

817
00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:44,079
for a while, and Richie had never won up there,

818
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:47,039
and and he hadn't, to be honest, had a great

819
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:51,079
game against Utah until until that game, until Saturday. He

820
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:55,000
had twenty four and then sixteen or fourteen rebounds. He

821
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,280
was absolutely amazing in that game.

822
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 2: And and.

823
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: It just shows you. And it was funny because I

824
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,079
saw some Utah comments like, that's not a play on

825
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:06,960
the four team if they can't beat us, that by

826
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:09,920
you know, just four or five points, and I thought, yeah,

827
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:12,519
you know, Final four teams never played close games throughout

828
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:16,360
the season. That just never happened. But but it does

829
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,920
show you that you got to bring it every night

830
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,719
in this league. For sure, you have to bring it

831
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,960
every night, and they're going to be you know, you

832
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,119
think about there hasn't really been a lot of setbacks

833
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:27,719
for this team. You know, a lot of things they've

834
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,199
had to overcome, and they're going to lose some games

835
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,920
in this league. I mean, I think it'd be great

836
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,880
if they went undefeated, but that's not realistic, and they're

837
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,079
going to lose some games they think they probably should

838
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:39,000
have won, and they've got to recover from that and

839
00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:41,119
come out in the next game and play well. And

840
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,440
so I'm looking forward to seeing how they respond to

841
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:46,119
some adversity when it pops up, because this league is

842
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:48,400
just way too tough to just go out and play

843
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,000
your best every night. They're going to have a dud,

844
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,320
they're gonna have a game, They're gonna go out and

845
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,000
it's just not going to work for them, and you know,

846
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:55,639
they're gonna have to figure out how to get get

847
00:42:55,679 --> 00:42:55,960
over that.

848
00:42:58,159 --> 00:43:02,079
Speaker 3: Love The breakdown for double d Darnell Dixon the Daily

849
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:06,000
heraldy and talking some BYU Ball here on your Utah

850
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,800
ESPN Radio network.

851
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 5: Uh.

852
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 3: As we get into this, uh into the really the

853
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,480
heart of the Big twelve schedule and you're looking at

854
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,400
the next few games. Obviously TCU a formidable foe at

855
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,159
the Marriage Center. But everyone's all the fans got their

856
00:43:23,199 --> 00:43:26,079
eyes on that Texas Tech game, right, Everyone's like, wonder

857
00:43:26,159 --> 00:43:29,920
what's gonna happen there? Uh, what are you looking at

858
00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:32,599
as far as the schedule is concerned for b YU,

859
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,039
Where where are your eyes being casted? Where the where's

860
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:40,559
the gays? The all seeing eye of Darnell being being illuminated?

861
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: Well, Texas Tech is a really good team.

862
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 5: JT.

863
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,119
Speaker 1: Toppin's the best big man in the conference and so

864
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,480
that's going to take a real good defensive effort. And

865
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:53,760
by bringing in Abdullah on that they've they've shored up

866
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,440
that into your defense really well. The showdown with Arizona

867
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:02,440
on the twenty six to January Arizona, you know, they

868
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:05,599
lost some guys to the portal, some good scorer and

869
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:08,320
their league scorers in the NBA, and they're better than

870
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,159
they were last year. I think I think they're much

871
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,800
better and they can score from different angles and they

872
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,800
just push that temple so hard on you and BA

873
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,360
used one at Kansas before, but that will still be difficult.

874
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,400
And then you know, when they played they have not

875
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:24,960
been able to get close to Houston since they joined

876
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:29,519
the conference. The Houston Coucher's defense that just ate them

877
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:33,119
up every time they played. So I think that's going

878
00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:36,119
to be a real Ringer Bell Weather kind of game

879
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:41,599
when they play Houston on February seventh. This is not

880
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,360
maybe as good a Houston team as they've been in

881
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,559
the past, but they're still ranks that in the country

882
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:50,760
and they still play amazing defense, and so I'm curious

883
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,679
to see how the Cougars respond and make a close

884
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,760
game for sure, but even have a chance to beat

885
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,920
Houston because, like I said, since they joined the conference,

886
00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:02,760
Houston has been able to kind of do whatever they

887
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,159
want and exert their will on the Cougars, and so

888
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:07,719
we'll see how that one turns out. But that's the

889
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,119
next several weeks. There's some great ball games, and that's

890
00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:13,679
one of the things I really enjoyed about the Big

891
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,840
Twelve is Texas Tech is ranked fifteen. They're coming to

892
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,760
the marriage Center. Arizona's number one. They're coming to the

893
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,360
married Center. Houston is number one coming to the marriage Center.

894
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,320
That's amazing to me. And they've got Iowa State later

895
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,199
this season. It's coming to the Marry Center. Iowa State's

896
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,639
undefeated number two. So I love that they're bringing in

897
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,880
these teams that they could never even get a sniff

898
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,079
of when they were playing in the other conferences to

899
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,880
come into the Marriage Center. And you know they started

900
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,920
with this in this league. In a league play is

901
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,400
we get to talk to the opposing coach after games

902
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,480
of the Marriage Center, and that's fantastic. I love to

903
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:52,840
hear their perspective on things. Bobby Hurley was really amazing

904
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,920
a week or so ago when Arizona State came and

905
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:58,639
had some funny comments to make. So it's big time

906
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,639
and it's a It's something that I'm looking forward to seeing.

907
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,679
Speaker 3: You mentioned the apeopole earlier in the in the show,

908
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,800
you've been an AP voter, Darnell.

909
00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:12,599
Speaker 2: Why is it that BYU fell two spots after getting.

910
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: A win on the road versus versus Utah at the

911
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:19,519
Huntsman Center, a quad to victory and how much created

912
00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:25,119
should we give the ape pole for basketball or football.

913
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: Well a little bit. I mean, it's it is a

914
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,199
perception that you can look at. But in the last

915
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,039
NET rankings, I think BYU was eight or nine still,

916
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,480
so I think they're still in pretty much the same spot.

917
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,400
I just think that now that we're into conference play,

918
00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:46,039
Nebraska and Vanderbilt are still winning and they're still undefeated,

919
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:49,679
so it's hard to keep them behind the BYU, who

920
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,639
does have the one loss, even though it is to

921
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,079
number three Yukon. So I think that's probably the main

922
00:46:55,159 --> 00:46:58,880
reason is, you know, you look at what Nebraska and

923
00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:01,960
we can be soughtoma in the preseason game and they

924
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:05,599
beat BYU by one. We saw they were pretty talented,

925
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:09,440
and they've continued to do that. When Nebraska and Vanderbilt

926
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,079
are playing in their non conference schedule, they're playing a

927
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:13,960
bunch of guys they can beat by a bunch, and

928
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:16,880
it's hard to know kind of how good they are.

929
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,239
But once they get in the league play and they

930
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,440
start getting victories, then you start saying, okay, they're pretty good.

931
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,400
And Nebraska and Vanderbilt have done that in their lead,

932
00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:27,519
so to me, that's why. But I wouldn't be too

933
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:30,679
concerned because the net ranking really makes a big difference,

934
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,599
and BA has a lot of chances to build that up,

935
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:35,920
and they're already at eighty or nine now. So I

936
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,480
think that that bau fans shouldn't fret too much about

937
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:42,320
the A people because there are opportunities to strengthen their

938
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,000
NCAA resume coming up in the league.

939
00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:49,679
Speaker 3: Double D Darnell Dixon, appreciate you hopping on for yet

940
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:56,000
another Cougar beat and talking BYU football, BYU basketball. We

941
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:58,159
didn't really delve into the Olympic sports at all, but

942
00:47:58,199 --> 00:47:59,320
I know you're excited about them.

943
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is a good time of year

944
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,320
for some of those sports. You know, Baseball actually gets

945
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,639
started pretty soon, and softball, the spring sports are getting

946
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,880
kind of reped up, and and the b y U

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men's volleyball team is really interesting with its uh four

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guys that came in from Grand Canyon, who who killed

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their program to put money somewhere else. It's amazing because

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the Grand King is one of the richest schools in

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the country that can't afford a men's volleyball program, but

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that their loss was BYU's game, and we got a

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chance to see that team last weekend and they get

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beat Saint Francis swept both nights, and U see San

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Diego coming in on Friday and Saturday this week. And

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Sean Holmeston's got to work cut out for him because

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these are kind of just the warm up games. They

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have some really big ones coming up later in the

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schedule with U. C. L A And Stanford and Pepperdine

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and some of those traditional powers. But it's a fun

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sport and and it's it's a great night in the

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Smithfield House.

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Speaker 3: Love it double D and uh the sponsor of the

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segment is Ruby's In. And I know you've hiked, biked,

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razor and horseback ride through the hooters of Bryce Cannon,

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and I know you're no friend of the mouse, but uh,

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is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it not an accurate depiction?

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Speaker 3: I mean when you go into cars Land and uh

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and Big Thunder Mountain, I mean all of that is

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inspired by Ruby's In and Bryce Cannon National Park.

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Speaker 1: You know, I hadn't put that really together, but when

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when you said that in the intro, I thought, yeah,

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that makes a lot of sense. And that's one of

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the reasons I guess. I guess one of my kids

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liked to go there when we were taking So it

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is a fantastic place, you know, I, you know, I

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love it out there. That free breakfast is something else.

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And I like the non light pollution of the area

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once it gets dark at night, it gets dark. Yeah,

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So it's it feels like you're in a different place.

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And the hiking is great, and and the snow and

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they've got ice skating rink there, and it's it's a

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fun it's a fun time of it.

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Speaker 2: Double D. Appreciate you man, thanks for hopping on for

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you at another Cougar beat.

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Speaker 1: All right, Ben, have a great rest of your week.

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Speaker 2: All right, you too, man. That segment was brought to

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you by rubys In rubies In dot com. Head on

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over to rubisn dot com.

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Speaker 3: Forts last nine to sixty get twenty percent off your

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staycation at rubies In in Bryce Canyon National Park.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a brief time out. We'll be back.

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Speaker 3: Tanner Wall, former BYU safety taking his talents to the

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National Football League, going to be training. We'll find out

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where he's training and who's.

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Speaker 2: What agency he signed with, and what he needs.

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Speaker 3: To improve upon leading up to the Pro Day and

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NFL combine and obviously NFL Draft. You're listening to Cougar

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