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Speaker 1: Good morning, hobby friends. Welcome to Hobby Hotline. This is

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episode three twelve of Hobby Hotline. I'm your host, Logan Ward,

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and with me today is the man who needs no

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introduction whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: He is also the han solo of the Hobby Uncle

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Rich Klein. How are you doing? Uncle Riches?

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Speaker 3: And we're still waiting for our third But until our

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third shows up, if somebody wants to come join us,

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if Logan wants to put the thing in the stream work,

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we are happy to have pop in today. We'd love

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to hear from not just in the chat, but actually

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hear from you live and in person. And if you

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don't watch your face shown, we'll just do audio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I just putting the link into the comments right now.

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So if anybody wants to call in, feel free to

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call in. We would love to have you on the show.

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So so Rich, I guess you're doing okay. I am

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personally still trying to get over covid. You may hear

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that in my voice just a little bit. I picked

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up covid at the work, which is the worst pickup

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you can have.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a national but like I said, wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Quite as popular an acquisition is in twenty twenty two,

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but apparently it was a very popular acquisition this year

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as well.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was strange because I felt fine coming home Sunday.

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In fact, I woke up Monday morning and I was fine,

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and then I started developing a sore throat and a

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headache and I started sneezing and I thought, oh no,

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this is not good and sure enough and ended up

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being COVID.

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Speaker 2: But I'm getting over it.

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Speaker 1: It's been almost two weeks, so it's I'm on the

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tail end of it right now. So let me check

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out some comments real quick. Good morning for Man City Brew,

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Good morning fal Ball, Good morning for Steven, Philly Joe,

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Good morning, Happy Saturday, everybody. Abel says good morning. Rex

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says good morning. We're on the big screens in the shops.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Rex. We appreciate that a whole bunch. So we've

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got Mike Petty.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Mike, All twenty two TVs at the Petty House

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are turned in to see Rich Klin. I should hop on,

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but I'm getting coffee. Oh yeah, you should get on,

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Mike Petty.

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Speaker 2: But hey, by all.

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Speaker 3: Means get on, mister Petty. I mean you got a

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racing guy here in logan. I mean, you want to

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talk to anybody named Petty?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And let's see.

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Speaker 1: Abel says it's free yet costly. Yes, I agree. Uh,

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it's a free pickup, but it's it's been very costly.

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Speaker 2: Now we got three b collection.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Great to see y'all.

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Speaker 2: So all right, rich, I want to.

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Speaker 1: Start out with something that we I don't think we

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really even talked about before the show.

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Speaker 2: The Olympics is going on right now.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you knew this or not,

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but breakers or breaking is a sport in the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Did you know that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, however, that's a slightly different type of breaking. It's

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called breakdancing, not quite breakers. It would be great. Could

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you imagine breakers as a competition?

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Speaker 2: Uh? That would be crazy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, could you is it the most card you do?

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Is it the best card you pulled? Is it the

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most you pull I mean, what would be the competition

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for breakers? The most people who sign up for your breaks?

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I mean that think about it. That's really a cool

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That would be a cool concept. Could think about a fanatics,

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which is very forward thinking. You know, that's one thing

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they probably didn't even think about, Hey, wait a second,

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let's make breaking the sport.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, you know, I think Iceland they sit

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in a contingent of people to do breaking, and they're

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also they're known as the ice breaker.

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Speaker 2: And you know, uh, we're all week okay.

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Speaker 1: Pakistan also has a team and they're the pack breakers.

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Go figure on that one, right, And and there's one more.

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You gotta you gotta, you gotta check out this one.

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Thailand's got a breaking team.

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Speaker 3: And they're the tiebreakers.

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Speaker 2: There you go, all right, cool man, all right, So

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but that's.

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Speaker 3: Actually a good topic. There was an Olympic tops did

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issue an Olympic set like they have for many years.

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And Olympic cards are interesting because you have the it

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lasts a little longer, but there's a limited time frame

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for how long you can really sell Olympic cards for it.

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And it's the same trouble a lot of other sports happened.

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When I say other sports, we're talking golf, we're talking tennis,

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We're talking a lot of other sports. One of the issues,

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and I wrote about this many years ago when I

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was writing for GTS in Klein's Corner. One of the

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issues you have with that stuff is that you're at

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the Olympics for two weeks and maybe it was three

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weeks total, because they do a little before, maybe even

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something a day or two after the closing ceremonies, but

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usually a closing ceremony said there you go, there you go.

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He sold out. Good job, res that's cool, but you

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have a limited timeframe to sell them because a month

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from now you're onto the football season and the Olympics

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don't last, and then after the dopamine high it goes away.

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Golf you're at a location for one week, Tennis the

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Grand Slams, maybe two and a half, three weeks in

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New York or Wimbledon or Paris or Australia, but that's it.

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And then the rest of the time there are four

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or five days at any location. And that's the biggest

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difference between the team sports baseball, the football, the basketball,

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the hockey, even the soccers and those type of sports

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is you don't have a season for people to follow

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the whole thing. NASCAR is an exception on that, but

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that may be one reason the cards aren't just popular

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because it's the same thing. You're at a location for

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a week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I never thought about it that way, but they

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could be very well true.

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Speaker 3: But they have the big trailers. So you're a fan,

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you go and you get your mini trucks or whatever

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they call it, you know, or the decals or whatever

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it is relating to your favorite driver. But unless the

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drivers actually unless they're actually selling the cards or the

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players there, you have to go to the fan shop.

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And Rex is right to tops got the timing perfect.

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Speaker 2: They did.

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Speaker 1: I went to Target earlier this week and sure enough

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there's blaster boxes of twenty twenty four Olympic cards and

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I'll probably end up buying one just for the heck

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of it.

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Speaker 2: Just have some physique.

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Speaker 1: Chris Ramsey says, hello, all right, so let's let's get

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into some of the topic that we want to talk

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about today.

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Speaker 2: Rich.

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Speaker 1: The first thing is Marvin Harrison Marvus excusing Marvin Harrison

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Junior in his autographs. This is a topic that you

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brought up that we could talk about, so I'm going

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to let you start off with that.

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Speaker 3: Well, he says, basically, his dad signed a contract and

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I don't know what the legal ramifications of all this are,

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but I wonder if this is going to be a

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continuing issue with Nil, because what is the age where

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people can sign their own contracts and all of that,

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and it's certainly going to be an issue. And then

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in this case, you have the son of a Hall

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of Famer who is a very high round draft pick

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himself saying no, it's not me, it's daddy. So I'm

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not And so Fanatics has how to pull the uniforms.

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I don't. I think they can still sell the cards

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because he'll once he becomes a member of the NFLPA.

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I think you'll be able to sell his cards. But

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failing that, everything else is up in the air. But

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it's just interesting. It shows one of the perils today

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of doing business.

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Speaker 1: Right now, from what I read this, they're saying att

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at least Marvin Harrison Junior's camp is saying, this is

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not a legally binding contract. It's basically an intent to

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sign a contract or something to that effect. So I mean, again,

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I'm not a legal guy. We don't have we should

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have Paul LESCo on here, but you know, I don't

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even know if this is even a binding contract. Fanatics

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says that it is. Marvin Harrison Junior, he says no, So.

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Speaker 3: He also said his dad signed it, So that's that

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makes it that gives you a double.

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Speaker 2: That's that's very true. So if he has some.

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Speaker 3: Time with the NFLPA, yeah, he made and that's happened

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in the past. That's why Earl Campbell had no cards

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during his playing career after nineteen seventy nine. Eric Dickerson

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was also infamous for not having cards for a lot

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of his career because he where it was very careful

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about his licensing and in the early nineties of the

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overproduced era, Michael Dean Perry was another one who took

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a few years to get his cards and always players

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like that, even in days I mean baseball going back

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to the sixties. I don't think people want to hear

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about the Dinosaur era, you know, the fame Maury Wolves

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guys in the sixty seven set as well, and I

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should really dig in and see how many of they're

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truly are the only two the only other two I

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remember off the top of my head were more obscure

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players and Arnold Early and Doug Clemens, and they both

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and Doug Clemens had a decent major league career, and

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Arnold Early should have had some cards too along the way,

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and they finally got cards in sixty seven, when Marvin

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Miller finally started getting Tops to do a better job

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for the players. You know, it wasn't just the five

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dollars anymore. It was it became real money for people

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in those days. Especially a few hundred dollars was real

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money for the players to be on the card.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because salaries.

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Speaker 3: Only seventy five hundred or seven thousand and sixty seven.

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So if you're a second year player, five hundred dollars

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on top of seven thousands a significant boost to your income.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've heard stories about TOPS used to have

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like a catalog of things that you could get, like

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a blender or a mixer or different thing or like a.

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Speaker 2: Like a transistor radio.

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Speaker 1: There were things that they had little incentives that you

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could get when you signed with them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's really crazy.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's really I mean Cyberger's talked about that,

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but you know, yes, I mean yeah, and you could

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sometimes if you built it up for a couple of years,

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get a really good item too.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you could carry those over. Yeah,

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and you can get something even bigger. So times have

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really changed. So let me ask you this. As you know,

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I don't think you're You're not really much of a

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football collector, are you a little?

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Speaker 3: But I like old football, I like vintage football. I'm

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pretty good pre nineteen eighty, but modern football. The only

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reason I know anything about modern football is I get

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stuff in donations, but I don't go and buy.

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Speaker 2: Any Yeah, I'm sure you see someone Cam see too.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, how does this affect the collectors going forward?

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I mean I know that he was what like the

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fourth pick in the in the NFL draft I think

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this year or something, if I'm not mistaken, So I

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know people want to collect and people want his cards,

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you know, him holding out?

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Speaker 2: Is that a disservice to his fans?

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Speaker 3: You know? If I say yes and no, that sounds

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like I'm waffling, But I'm really not right. And the

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reason I say that is that you have to think

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about yourself and you have to be comfortable with what

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you're doing and you're still providing you're still playing the game.

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As long as you sign your contract and you play

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your sport, then you're doing what you're necessarily having to

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do for your fans in terms of the ancillary stuff

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that's up to you, and that really is up to you.

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I mean, do you want to sign a lot, do

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you want to do commercials if on your off day,

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or do you want to just hang out at home,

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or do you want to work out extra or do

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you want to study film? Whatever you do on your

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off day is up to you. So that's what I

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mean by as I'm going to digress here, so please

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forgive me. I'm going on a digression. Earlier this week,

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Dwayne Thomas passed away at almost I think he was

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seventy five seventy six, and he had a lot of

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problems during his NFL career. He was he was a

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great player for a couple of years, a decent player

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after some hiccups, and then we probably retired too early.

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He really didn't get hurt because he didn't play long enough.

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Twenty nineteen, he signed to the Dallas card shows. His

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table was ten feet away from me, fifteen feet away

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from me, and I know some people, some of my

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friends were originally a little afraid to go get autographs

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or talk to him, and they told me how charming

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he was. His family was there, his daughters were there

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who loved him. I think his wife was there. I'm

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not positive about that. But it was a great experience

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and I had friends, and I said, one of the

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things with Dwayne Thomas at that point is his battles

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are done. He's not battling anymore. He's satisfied with whatever

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happened in his life. He made decisions not to talk

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to the media in the early seventies. Let his playing

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on the field show what he was. And you're also

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dealing with racial strife. You're dealing in Dallas in nineteen

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seventy one, and let's just face it, it's not exactly

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the most cosmopolitan area in the world in nineteen seventy one,

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so you're having some problems. He's not talking to the media.

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The story goes that they took away the MVP of

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the Super Bowl from him, and he really was the MVP,

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to give it to Roger Staubach because they were afraid

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of how he was going to react during the banquet

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when they gave him his car. But as I said,

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almost fifty years later, he was great Marvin Harrison, and

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I'm not trying to conflate that type of issue. What

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I'm trying to say is Marvin Harrison Junior is making

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a decision as to how he wants his stuff to go,

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and that's his business. That's really not our business. So yes,

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it'd be nice to have cards of him. Yes, it'd

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be nice to have sign cards of him in the pack.

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But if he's pleasant to his fans, if he signed

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in person, if he does stuff, then that's all you

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can ask for, you know, if he if he gives

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you one hundred percent on the field, then you know,

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is a great receiver. Is there anything more you have

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to ask for him out of it?

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Speaker 2: No? I think everything else is a bonus at that point.

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Speaker 3: I mean, logan, you're a racing card guy, right, You're

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a racing guy with one or two exceptions. Aren't racers?

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Aren't the auto racers basically the nicest group of athletes

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out there?

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Speaker 2: I would have to say.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, I've dealt with all kinds of stick

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and ball athletes trying to you know, just to say hi,

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get an autograph, whatever, and I'll have to say that

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the NASCAR guys by far are the nicest, most most

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approachable athletes out there. And that's one of the reasons

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I don't understand why people don't collect more NASCAR because

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you know, they are so approachable except for some of

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the you know, the higher up drivers like Dalor Hard Junior.

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He's he's he's just hard to get to. Chase Elliott

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the same way. He's just hard to get to as well.

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But I mean they'll sign if you come to him,

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they'll side and they'll say hi. There, they're cordial to me.

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You can't be so okay, So let's let's move on

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from Marvin Harrison and let's talk about something that happened

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at the National.

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Speaker 2: There was a theft in the parking.

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Speaker 1: Lot of the twenty twenty four National in Cleveland, and

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apparently somebody broke into a vehicle. And I've heard different

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conflicting reports. I've heard that it was cash and cards. Cash,

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so I'm not exactly sure what was stolen. But the

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last report that I heard was like two hundred and

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seventy five thousand dollars in cash.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of cash to be carrying with

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you and leaving in the car. Why leaving that much

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cash in a car?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I would never do that, That would be with me

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at all times. I would never let that out of

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my sight period.

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Speaker 3: You know, one thing about Alan Rosen you know when

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he famously carried cash to a has deals. But unless

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he really knew you, he never went alone anywhere. Somebody

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was always with him when he had his cash. Yes,

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now this is this is a security issue at the

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IX Center. This is not something the promoters of the

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national can really deal with. I don't think they can

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deal with the parking lot. I think that becomes the

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IX Center.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with that. But but where where

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do you draw the line?

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Speaker 3: But here, here's where I'm going to go with this.

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One of the issues I'm hearing and it popped up

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a little this year, and they fix some of it.

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And one of the things that I'm hearing about next year,

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and believe it or not, this is related to this,

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is they want to reduce to just be very strict

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about the number of badges per table. And I understand

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their logic within and they also want to be strict

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about you know, table sharing or whatever. And again I

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understand the logic and the reason I'm going somewhere with

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that is that if I only have two badges for

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my booth, I'm carrying stuff in and out and somebody's

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at by booth. If I have three badges, which I think,

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I think one should have. And this is a personal opinion,

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but there are you get three tables with a booth,

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one badge per table at a boost, so three badges

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per booth. And if you get three badges per booth,

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then somebody can always be staying with your cash while

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somebody can always be staying at the table while somebody's

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loading the card.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I And that's and so I think, and I understand,

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and I understand where Jimmy and Joe and their teams

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are coming from. That so I don't want to sound

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like them, but there are practical reasons to allow the

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extra badge per table. This to me is a practical

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reason to allow the extra badge per table, just to

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allow for help and somebody's staying pay Oh, somebody's at

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the car. They do not break into that car.

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Speaker 1: So so Mike Petty is saying that lots of theft

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in Cleveland. You know, I didn't hear of any stories

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of people stealing cards.

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Speaker 2: I did off table.

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Speaker 3: A thirty boy big BOYD Sports Cards said he he

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lost a I guess a hand truck load of cards,

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and he did, he detailed what it was he lost,

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like a hand truck load of cards.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I had not heard about I.

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Speaker 3: Did read that. I don't know about other ones. They

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are always understand there are always going to be especially

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at a show that big, with that many people, there's

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always going to be thefts. Oh just want to mitigate

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and reduce the amount of thefts out there. But if

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you're carrying that much cash, that's why I want a

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third person. Just hey, somebody stays with the cash. And

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I can tell a funny story about mister Rosen and

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his friends with money because he at one point he

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was living maybe ten minutes away from me, So we

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went to some of the same places at different times.

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And actually I only ran into him once or twice

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outside of card shows, but i'd see him occasionally. And

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one time he went somewhere after finishing a deal, like

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at midnight, and he was with one of his friends,

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you know, and one of our mutual friends. And this is,

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you know, midnight, and it's either a convenience store or

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a supermarket that was still open. It was something and

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he wanted to get a couple of sodas and maybe

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a little snack, and all he had was one hundred

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dollars bills, and he was gonna start pulling out his stack,

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and Al, I have this. I have a twenty. It's

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a lot easier. Let me pay for this.

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Speaker 2: She just paid me back later, exactly.

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Speaker 3: He never carried anything less than one hundred with him,

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so so you had to remember, Al, think about where

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you are. Always try to carry at least a couple

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of twenties with you for things like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know Al Rosen, he came to town here in Memphis.

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This has been back in the eighties now. A dealer

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friend of mine was selling him some cards and he

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had dinner at his house and I got invited over

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there as well, So I got to have dinner and

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and Al was he was super cordial, very nice guy.

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The thing that I take away from from that dinner

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was he was like me.

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Speaker 2: He didn't like his food to touch.

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Speaker 1: So he had he had a plate that was just

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sectioned off, and he had had his food in all

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the different you know, little places on the plate, none

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of it touched. And I'm like, I like this guy

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because I don't like that either. So I thought that

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was that was pretty neat.

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Speaker 3: But next to him three straight years flying home from

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the National eighty five, eighty six, and eighty seven. Oh wow,

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literally sitting next to him and I and I know

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we were only going to show certain cards here earlier,

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but since I brought them.

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Speaker 1: In, that's really cool, right there, Rich, I like that card,

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right that's an Al Rosen.

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Speaker 3: This is a nineteen ninety okay, nineteen ninety five National

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thing he promoted himself on him. It's assigned Al Rosen piece.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, so real quick, getting back to the theft

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at the National.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know that same dealer friend of mine that I

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was telling you about. I used to go to shows

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with him, and you know, this reminded me of this.

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Mike Petty says. He agrees, you need some muscle to

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handle that much green, preferably packing a gun. Uh in

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a gun or packing a gun or gun free state. Okay,

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So I used to go to shows with my buddy

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and he he carried I'll say this, he carried some

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pretty hefty amounts of cash, especially back you know in

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the eighties. You know we're we're talking, you know, tens

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of thousands of dollars in the eighties. And I was

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basically there just to kind of watch the money and

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and make sure everything was okay.

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Speaker 2: Uh, so you know that I was.

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Speaker 1: I guess in a way, I was kind of the

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security guard or the muscle or whatever you want to

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call it. But I got to go up to all

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these shows all over the country for free, didn't cost

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me anything, and I had a great time.

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Speaker 2: Some of the best days of my life.

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Speaker 3: Right, And that's the point. You have to be careful

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with the cash. And that's why I was saying, that's

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why I was advocating for an extra badge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I agree.

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Speaker 1: But but do you think that the show promoters are

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going to have to start hiring their own security to

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patrol these parking lots as well, because you know, I

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worried about that.

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Speaker 3: In Chicago, they're in the hotels or something. I mean,

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that's that that's not there necessarily their responsibility. That has

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because we're you know, you and I go to Chicago.

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When you were in the same hotel in Chicago last year,

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and you were very gracious and you would drive us

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and then we would just walk, you know, across the thing.

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I mean, you didn't have anything in your vent. If

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somebody brought into the van, what would they get? Some

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chick fil a you know, iced tea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they get some, they get some sweet tea.

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Speaker 2: But you know.

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Speaker 3: So I wasn't worried for you. But some people do

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carry things, or you do store things, and I think

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as long as they have cameras and as long as

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they have people around, those are good situations. The IX Center,

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from what I remember, and I haven't been there since

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twenty eighteen, and I did not go this year, so

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I cannot. I know that the parking lots were very crowded,

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and it was it was a real pain. But I

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don't think there was any cameras or security the last

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time I was in the IX Center. I do not

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know if it changed in six years and if there

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was no security or cameras. So that's something that needs

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to be rectified, not just for sports cards but for everything.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I agree. But you know, we checked

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out of our hotel Sunday morning. All of our stuff

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was in my son's truck, you or his suv. Yeah,

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00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,079
And I was the whole time we went in for

479
00:23:07,319 --> 00:23:09,319
like two three hours Sunday.

480
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: Then we'd left.

481
00:23:09,839 --> 00:23:11,839
Speaker 1: But that whole time I was in there, I was

482
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,319
thinking about and you know, kind of sort of worrying

483
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,359
about okay, is our stuff okay? Because yeah, all the

484
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,960
cards and things that I had picked up at the

485
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,759
show were out there in the in his truck. And

486
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,799
you know, I'm thinking, man, I hope nobody breaks into

487
00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:27,480
this truck and they're going to give off.

488
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,039
Speaker 3: On one thing. And that began at twenty twenty three.

489
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,480
It began last year at twenty twenty three, I believe

490
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,720
is and I think they kept it up this year too.

491
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,960
The last couple of days of the National there's a

492
00:23:40,079 --> 00:23:42,559
check in station for bags in the lobby.

493
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you can bring your bag.

494
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,279
Speaker 3: With you check it in. So and I understand legally

495
00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:50,319
that it's not responsibility, but at least you know where

496
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,039
your bag is. It's not sitting in a truck. It's

497
00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:55,279
sitting I mean, if you have to go in a hurry,

498
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,599
you just pick it up. It's in a much more

499
00:23:58,599 --> 00:23:59,400
secure location.

500
00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and Stukes makes a good point.

501
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,279
Speaker 1: Chicago, you can go through the Hamster tubes and if

502
00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:08,559
you've got a hotel that connects to the the Donald E.

503
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,839
Stephens Center, you can just take your stuff back to

504
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,400
the room. Yes, it's easy peasy, And that's one of

505
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,319
the things I do love about that, so you don't have.

506
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: To worry about Chicago's in today's world. Chicago's where the

507
00:24:20,519 --> 00:24:23,640
National should be every year. There are certain other locations

508
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,480
where the National has been over the years that I'm

509
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:30,319
a big fan of. Saint Louis, Baltimore and Anaheim. All

510
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,759
those had enough hotels that you could walk to from

511
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,160
the shop. Yeah, I went those are Those are why

512
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,319
the infrastructure in those areas are very good. Cleveland's infrastructure

513
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,039
is not as good. And this year, I don't think

514
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,039
anybody was ready for the overwhelming amount of people. And

515
00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:50,519
that's nothing that could really have been helped necessarily. I

516
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:53,359
don't you want to promote a big show. Some point

517
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,440
you have to say, well, maybe we can't have that

518
00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:58,960
many people. Maybe we just have to say stop. And

519
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,680
I mean it kind of s because you want to

520
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,119
make as much money as possible. So again we were

521
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,279
talking about this with Marvin Harrison Junior earlier. There comes

522
00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:08,920
some point where you just have to say, you know,

523
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,640
where do I stop? I run a show now, my

524
00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:13,799
show now at my local synagogue that I run for

525
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,000
my brotherhood. I used to have a bigger room than

526
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,640
I had. I used to have forty five tables in

527
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,640
the room. I now have twenty one tables in the room.

528
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,480
It's a small it's a much smaller room. It's comfortable,

529
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,720
but if it's twenty one tables. I've drawn a hundred,

530
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,000
approximately one hundred people of the last couple shows on

531
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,359
Sundays and Monday because it's Labor Day and Memorial Day weekends.

532
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,880
So if you're in the Dallas area on Labor Day weekend,

533
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,000
come to my show. If I draw, if I draw

534
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,119
one hundred and fifty people for the two days, I'm

535
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,480
actually over. I'm overpacking the room, and I have to

536
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,680
be very careful. I don't know if I want a

537
00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:45,000
hundred I know this sounds weird to say. I don't

538
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,359
know if I want that many more people in the room.

539
00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it becomes a security concern at that

540
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:54,240
point because it's so crowded people are their attention is

541
00:25:54,279 --> 00:25:55,240
being diverted.

542
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: It's easy to pick things up and walk out the

543
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,880
door with them. And I'm sure a lot, like I said,

544
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,799
I'm sure a lot of that happened at the National

545
00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:02,079
this year.

546
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 2: Likes I just didn't hear much about it.

547
00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:06,319
Speaker 3: No, it's been quieter. I don't think there was anything

548
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,119
as blatant other than the one hand truck in this thing.

549
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,680
But obviously things disappear at a show. Obviously. Well, thank you.

550
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,200
I appreciate that stuke. It is a fun show. I

551
00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:18,240
keep it. It's an old school show. I try to

552
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:21,880
keep it with the old school flavor because I'm not trying.

553
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,880
I don't have to pay for the room in a sense.

554
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,960
I'm paying for it when I pay my synagogue dues.

555
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,200
But I don't have to physically pay for the room.

556
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,920
I can keep the cost reasonable. I can get collector

557
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,839
dealers to set up it's you know, everything is reasonable

558
00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:38,200
at that show. I don't have to charge five dollars

559
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,119
to get in the door. You know, we have we

560
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,240
provide lunch. When I say we provide lunch, we have

561
00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:46,240
hot dogs, chips and soda for three dollars. This year,

562
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,599
we'll also be selling some pop Boy Scout popcorn. One

563
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,359
of our Brotherhood board members his sons and the Boy Scouts,

564
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,000
and we do and heat and they do pop they do.

565
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,960
They sell popcorn as a fundraiser and we you know,

566
00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:01,119
but I keep But the hot Bok, SCHIPs and soda

567
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:03,440
is Sam's Club price. It's three dollars.

568
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't three dollars.

569
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I could charge more, but it's three dollars.

570
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,799
That's that's our that's our price points. It's a price

571
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,960
point that works. I even bring in bagels, cream, cheese,

572
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,319
and coffee in the morning for the vendors. There's also religion,

573
00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:20,160
there's also dietary reasons that our synagogue to do that.

574
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,480
But but I bring those in for the vendors on

575
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:25,920
Sunday morning because, as I said, but it also is

576
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,880
a nice courtesy and that somebody thought. One of my

577
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,279
vendors says, oh, that's great, You're spending hundreds of dollars,

578
00:27:31,599 --> 00:27:33,519
and I said, well, I'd love to thank you, duke.

579
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:35,319
I'm glad you think I'm spending hundreds of dollars. I'm

580
00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:37,960
actually spending sixty for everything I bring in on Sunday morning.

581
00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:41,200
Oh we're spending sixty? Is that all it is? Yeah?

582
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:43,839
And it's like amazing. You would wonder why more promoters

583
00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:44,880
don't do things like that.

584
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering, Rich, when are you gonna add a

585
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,200
breaker's pavilion to your show?

586
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 3: I could, I mean, I could put them in a

587
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,079
side room. I probably do have a room I could

588
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,279
put them in. But I I could put a breaker in,

589
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,720
it would have to be somebody I know and approve of,

590
00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:05,079
so to speak. But I really don't want breakers at

591
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,279
my show like the modern breakers. You know, if I'm

592
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:11,039
gonna call out a good breaker just as an example,

593
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:13,359
and this is not slagging on anybody who's not a

594
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,799
good breaker, but if Mojo Brakes lived in the area

595
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:17,240
and they wanted to set up at my show, they'd

596
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:18,799
be welcome to and the figure out how to get

597
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:21,960
them in. You know, you know, a really experienced long

598
00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:24,839
term breaker there would know, Hey, come to my show

599
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,359
and you can people can watch you do a live break. Wonderful. Yeah,

600
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,000
And as I said, I'm just using them as example.

601
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,160
Or my friends at Triple Cards if they have a

602
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,480
breaking office that they if they say, rich, we want

603
00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:38,960
to have a rich We want to have somebody break

604
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,200
at your show, just just for fun. Okay, I know

605
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,000
where I can put you. You can. You can set

606
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:45,160
up in this room. We have an av just set

607
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,240
up and you do. And if somebody wants to drop

608
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,200
in and say hi or pick up their stuff in person,

609
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:51,559
that's great. You know, things like that I'd be fine with.

610
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,119
But I want to be very controlled over letting any

611
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,119
breaker in right now.

612
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,359
Speaker 2: Gotcha? All right?

613
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,799
Speaker 1: So I think we let's move on to our next topic.

614
00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,160
I'm gonna show this picture real quick. Chris Carlon was

615
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,640
on Facebook and he uh, he showed a picture of

616
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,119
him at the National getting Kit Young's autograph on Kit

617
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,319
Young's trading card.

618
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: And uh, for.

619
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: Those of you who may not know who Kit Young is,

620
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:17,039
he's a longtime collector dealer.

621
00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: Uh.

622
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: He's the one who did the industry Summit shows in Hawaii. Uh.

623
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: He's definitely an icon of the hobby.

624
00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: So this got me to thinking about, you know what

625
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:31,359
other cards of hobby icons are out there?

626
00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: Do you have any in your collection? Uh? And I

627
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,319
figured that I knew Rich probably had some.

628
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,079
Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do is we're gonna do a

629
00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:42,119
little bit of show and tell, and I'm gonna let

630
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,200
Rich start out with some of his cards of some

631
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:47,920
of the uh the hobby icons so to speak, and

632
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,759
hobby goats.

633
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,559
Speaker 3: Okay, first, I think this, I have like four of them,

634
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,720
and I and I and I, so I should actually

635
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:57,640
know if I do know, this is a very rare card.

636
00:29:58,039 --> 00:30:02,039
This is the pack pulled ops fan favorite Jim Beckett

637
00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:05,000
signed card. Oh wow, and I know it's pat Poll

638
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,799
because of that on the back.

639
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:08,759
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, is he got something on the

640
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:10,599
back and it does. See I've never seen.

641
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: One card to this, for example.

642
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,119
Speaker 2: Which is which is an in person did you give?

643
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: Which is an in person seeking?

644
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:19,559
Speaker 1: So you know, doctor Beckett, He's on a whole bunch

645
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:22,480
of cards. Yeah, I've got one that he signed for

646
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,279
me right here. So I've got that from from tops that.

647
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,039
Like I said, that's a pack issue card right there.

648
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: He did that for when we had a Content Creator dinner.

649
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,400
He personalized all of those he did.

650
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I got it at the Content Creator dinner. Okay.

651
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: One of my sign cards from this set recently sold

652
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,720
for one hundred dollars on eBay. It was signed to

653
00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:44,839
a friend of mine who's no longer with us, named Ted,

654
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:47,960
and one of my hobby friends named Ted bought the

655
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,559
card and was happy with paying over one hundred dollars

656
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,519
was shipping for it. That was my card. This is

657
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:56,200
from the ninety two set.

658
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,039
Speaker 1: Okay, So I've got one here too. I've got an

659
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:02,759
Al Rosen car did all show real quick? It's an

660
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:06,319
autographed Al Rosing card it says mister Mint. And uh

661
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:11,960
since Al was say Al Rosen mister mint, but he

662
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:13,519
was always he doesn't.

663
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,279
Speaker 3: And here's somebody who doesn't quite fit into that collection,

664
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,920
right Bo. I'm teasing because Bo just posted yeah, best

665
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:23,160
I've had all summer.

666
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:25,279
Speaker 2: Bow needs to send me one of those cards. I

667
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:27,039
don't have. I don't. I do not have one. I

668
00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:28,200
would I would love to have one.

669
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: Yes, So Bo, thank you for this. Again, I was teasing,

670
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,319
but it's you're part of my collection, well, you know,

671
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:37,640
and I really do collect hobby. It's my last collection

672
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,440
is hobby related signed cards. I even have one of you, Logan.

673
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we had the Hobby hotline set that we

674
00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:45,279
that we did.

675
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is not a sign card, but this

676
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:50,559
is I had to show this once. I think when

677
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,480
Bo had the Couch People Christmas party a couple of

678
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:57,400
years ago. This is a sample of when Beckett Grading

679
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,759
first began and these were the samples of how they

680
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:03,799
did the how they did the how they did the things,

681
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:07,599
and and Logan said this was rare because these were

682
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:11,480
given to the employees at Beckett for I think Merry

683
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:15,240
Christmas two thousand CLA dressed up as Santa.

684
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: Claus that I love that.

685
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,319
Speaker 3: That is so cool, And as it turns out, I

686
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:21,039
have two of them.

687
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm calling Dibbs. You got it. I'm calling Dibbs.

688
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: I did pick up a card recently that I was

689
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:31,559
very proud to get. In fact, it got it got

690
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:34,519
lost in the ups USPS black hole.

691
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: For like I don't know, almost three months.

692
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: But it finally showed up at my door and it's

693
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:41,759
from the Industry Summit and it's got Doctor Beckett.

694
00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: It's signed by doctor Beckett. So I was I was

695
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,480
really happy that to get that card.

696
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:49,519
Speaker 3: I want to show this only because this is a

697
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:51,440
card that can't be signs, but I'm happy to have

698
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,319
it in my collection. One of my for Beckat teammates

699
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:56,720
went to Pannini or donn Resleief playoff at the time

700
00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:00,920
became Betini, sadly passed away way too young, eight kids,

701
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:05,039
wonderful person, and his wife recently posted she still had

702
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:07,480
some of his cards. I didn't ask her to sign that.

703
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:10,200
I probably should have said, Nicole, can you sign one

704
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,680
for me? Yeah, but this is a card you can't

705
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,519
get signed anymore. But I still miss him.

706
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:18,759
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's nice yes.

707
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: And his name was Ben Eckler, really sharp guy. Came

708
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,599
to Becket as a minor league specialist, became a very

709
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,720
high up in the Panini and sadly, as I said,

710
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,759
we lost in the COVID I think in twenty twenty

711
00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:34,599
one in September. And I remember that because it happened

712
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,680
on Friday afternoon of the Dallas card Show, and a

713
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,720
couple of my Beckett former teammates, Joe White and Dave,

714
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,559
slipped over there and they just came to my table

715
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,079
and we just chatted for the rest of the afternoon,

716
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:47,960
and I didn't care whether I made any I didn't

717
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,440
think people walked by and I think I said hi,

718
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,920
I told Hie, you can look, but I didn't for

719
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,000
the rest of the afternoon. And I know you're supposed

720
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,799
to try to make money the card show, but that

721
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,559
was one of the situations. I didn't care if I

722
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:00,640
sold a freaking card. The rest of the day, we

723
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,559
were just chatting. We were sort of you know, it

724
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,799
was like it was like a pre funeral, you know,

725
00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:08,400
and it was like good, good to just talk and

726
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,000
we talked about the old times and it was a

727
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,840
lot of fun. And I said today I'll sell cards tomorrow.

728
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,400
Today is today is for that. So I'm glad I

729
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,360
got a chance to show these some of these t y'all,

730
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,199
if you ever come down to Texas, come visit and

731
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,880
we'll they'll do something.

732
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: Well, here, I do want to show one card, this

733
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:32,840
one right here, This is of course Jefferson Verdict, And

734
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,039
of course everybody knows he's the what's considering, he's the

735
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:39,840
father of the Hobby's, he created the American Car. Matter

736
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,960
of fact, I've actually got a copy of one of

737
00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:44,519
one of the American card catalogs.

738
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: It's an oldie, see, but that's.

739
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,599
Speaker 3: Those who don't know and don't know. Logan and I

740
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:55,360
were talking before the show, and I have to be

741
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,440
careful because there were some cards from my younger days

742
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,559
of young ladies not wearing very many clothes that I

743
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:06,119
also have signed cards. So I have to be about

744
00:35:06,679 --> 00:35:09,840
which cards I pull out to show, because otherwise we

745
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,599
would be Hobby Hotline after Dark or Hobby hot Line tender.

746
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,039
Speaker 2: No, we don't want that.

747
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: Rich We're we're on big screens.

748
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: We don't need that.

749
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 3: Yes, we're on big screens and they're probably kids around,

750
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,000
so we don't need that.

751
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I do want to show this copy

752
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,760
of the American Car Catalog that I've got here. I

753
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,800
think this was from back maybe in the thirties. It's

754
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:34,760
it's an old one.

755
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,039
Speaker 3: If it's from the thirties, that's the first edition in

756
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:39,360
a great book, a very valuable book.

757
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a bit. So yeah, so I do.

758
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: I do collect some of the hobby history, you know,

759
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,360
especially since I mean rich you've been in it longer

760
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,480
than me, you know, because I started in seventy one

761
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:52,400
and you started back in the late sixties.

762
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 3: I got to tell you organized hobby in seventy seven,

763
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,960
but my first pack is sixty eight.

764
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, in my first pack was seventy one.

765
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: I think you and I are about the same, aid

766
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:05,480
we are, so yeah, so we just wanted to show

767
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,000
some of those cards. I thought that was pretty neat.

768
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:12,639
So moving on to our next subject, I went, of course,

769
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:16,320
everybody knows I went to the National this year. Of course,

770
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:19,480
went there primarily for the show, but also in Cleveland,

771
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,760
there is a famous house from a Christmas movie and

772
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,000
it's the A Christmas Story House, and I actually went

773
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:30,679
to that house. And what a lot of people don't

774
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,079
know is there's a scene in a Christmas story where

775
00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:36,639
Ralphie is laying in his bed.

776
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: He's dreaming about his Red Rider BB.

777
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: Gun And when you see that, and here's the picture,

778
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,719
you can see up over his head there are three

779
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,960
baseball card and those cards have been identified long ago.

780
00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:52,039
In fact, I think Ryan Cracknell did a story a

781
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:55,880
long time ago for Beckett Talk talking about those cards.

782
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,880
So I actually have actually have those three cards. They

783
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:03,599
are I'll show you real quick. It's the nineteen forty

784
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:08,360
playball John Rucker, It's the T six Jimmy Hart and

785
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,920
also a T to six ed rollback card. So I

786
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,719
took those cards to Cleveland just for the express idea

787
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,760
of taking taking them and putting them on Ralphie's bed

788
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,079
and getting a picture. So I actually did do that.

789
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,719
I did take a picture of the cards in front

790
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,559
in front of the house, so you can see that.

791
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:31,079
I took him front of the house. Then I took

792
00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:33,960
him upstairs and put him on his bed and along

793
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,360
with a picture. And that's also a ticket from you know,

794
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,679
the tour that you can take of the house. But

795
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,239
it was really funny because the guy that was doing

796
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,199
the tour, he said, you can't touch the beds because

797
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:50,159
they actually this is like an actually an airbnb. People

798
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,039
stay there at night, so you can actually stay there

799
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,239
and sleep in Ralphie's bed and sleep in his room.

800
00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:58,400
So I asked him, I said, hey, listen, I got

801
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,159
these cards. Do you guys might if I take set

802
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:03,079
them on the bed take a picture? Oh, no problem.

803
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:05,760
They were really great about it. So, Uh, I had

804
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,039
a blast doing this, as you can see that I

805
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,320
took the cards and stuck them on his bed there.

806
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,000
I just thought, I just thought it was something fun

807
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:15,039
to do. It's it's card related.

808
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,199
Speaker 2: Uh. We did that before we went to the i

809
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:17,880
X Center.

810
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: We actually diverted there first when we hit Cleveland, So

811
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:22,719
it was it was a lot of fun.

812
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you have any thoughts about

813
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,760
that Rich at all.

814
00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:28,559
Speaker 3: Well, you are aware that Scott Schwartz, who was in

815
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:30,519
the movie, is a big baseball card collector.

816
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: Yes, In fact, he's he's signed at some of the shows.

817
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:36,199
He may have been signing this year. I think at

818
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:36,760
the National.

819
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,079
Speaker 3: He absolutely there were a couple of years when there

820
00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:42,880
have been celebrity areas at the National. He's coordinated. When

821
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,679
I say he's coordinated, he's brought When I say he's

822
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:47,920
brought in, he's the one who's made the contacts to

823
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,960
bring in a lot of the celebrities that have come

824
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,760
in over the years.

825
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, I thoroughly enjoyed that movie.

826
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: And there's uh, there's actually a set on the PSA

827
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,239
set registry for these cards, just these three cards.

828
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 2: It's a three card set.

829
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,559
Speaker 1: And that's the whole reason I've got him now, is

830
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:07,760
you know, to you know, put him on the set, Registrate.

831
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 3: Logan, you are where every time I hear the name

832
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,920
Jimmy Hart, I think about Mouth of the South, Jimmy Hart.

833
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,199
Speaker 1: Oh man, you shouldn't even have said that, because when

834
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:17,000
I was a kid, he's from here.

835
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: He's from here in Memphis, right.

836
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,599
Speaker 1: My sister dated a guy who lived in Raleigh. For

837
00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:24,599
those of you who are from this area know where

838
00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:28,199
that's at. But literally two doors down the street, Jimmy

839
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:31,199
Hart lived down the street from them. We would go

840
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,880
over and say hi to him and hang out.

841
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,079
Speaker 2: It was it was fun.

842
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,039
Speaker 3: Well. I heard a lot of stories back in the

843
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:38,360
day where people if they lived here with Philia Zooto

844
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,480
or Yogi bearr lived they were just part of the

845
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:44,480
neighborhood in those Yeah, and the funny thing about Jimmy Hart,

846
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,719
I am digressing because I love to digress. But Jimmy

847
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,039
Hart was also a in a very popular rock band

848
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,079
before he became the Mouth of the South in wrestling,

849
00:39:54,199 --> 00:39:56,039
he was a group called the Gentries that had a

850
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:59,880
big Their biggest sip was called keep on Dancing. And yes,

851
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:01,719
it's the same to me Hart. So I mean, Jimmy

852
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,119
Hart's had an interesting life.

853
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, see he has.

854
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: You're right, He's definitely the Mouth of the South for sure.

855
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,760
So yeah, I thought that's funny that you brought that up.

856
00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:12,800
But it's really it's really a small world, man, it

857
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,519
really is. Let's see here comments everyday car collector Jason

858
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:20,880
says hello every year. See Mike Petty he says, uh,

859
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:26,079
oh okay, he also likes my cars. Thanks Mike, appreciate that.

860
00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:29,079
Speaker 2: So to Stuke, I had. I had a fun time

861
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:29,480
doing that.

862
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: I also made a stop at the White Castle corporate

863
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,679
headquarters in Columbus, Ohio on the way as well, just

864
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,239
to see what was going on there. They have a

865
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,159
really nice office.

866
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,079
Speaker 3: Oh well, white Castle. Hey, I grew up on white Castles.

867
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:44,800
I mean they are wonderful. I missed them down here

868
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,239
in Texas. Yeah, but you got to the white castles

869
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,840
are not the same as going and getting them in persons.

870
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:53,679
Speaker 1: No, if a lot of people don't know this, but

871
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,480
there's no pickles on the frozen white castles because pickles

872
00:40:56,519 --> 00:40:58,519
don't freeze very well at all, So you have to

873
00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:00,920
add your own pickles anyway. All right, so I guess

874
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,000
let's let's move on to our next subject we were

875
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:06,840
wanting to talk about.

876
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, now this is really cool.

877
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:12,519
Speaker 1: I got an email this week from PSA, and it

878
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:15,280
was an email saying, hey, you're a Set Rectory member.

879
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 2: We value.

880
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:20,559
Speaker 1: We want to help you get some cards graded for

881
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:24,000
your sets. Cards that probably aren't worth you know, the

882
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:26,760
grating fees, so to speak, but it is worth for

883
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,599
you to you know, get in your set, put in

884
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:32,239
your set. So they actually sent out an email to

885
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,280
Set Registry members. I don't know who all got it.

886
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,159
Speaker 2: I know I got it.

887
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: If any of you guys got one of these out

888
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,400
here to let us know in the comments. But I

889
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,599
got an email saying.

890
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,039
Speaker 2: Hey, here's a code you have to h I think

891
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:45,000
you have to place.

892
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: An order of or submit like twenty cards at value

893
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:52,480
plus or great or something. I forget exactly what it is.

894
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,000
But if you do that, you get one hundred and

895
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:57,960
fifty dollars off your order. I mean that's pretty substantial.

896
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: Can I ask the really dumb question this PSA is

897
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,760
doing really well. They're grading a million cops a million

898
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,199
cards a month right now? Do they know something we

899
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:11,199
don't know about their future business and grading? Because if

900
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,159
you're doing that many cards, do you really need to

901
00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:16,000
be doing discounting? Now? Are you just doing discounting ticket

902
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:18,960
even more cards? And I mean, you know, if I know,

903
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,800
they're getting them out on time. So I'm not trying

904
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,480
to say that, but I am trying to say, is

905
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,320
that at your most successful time? I mean, when we

906
00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:29,039
look at Ryan's gem rate, you know PSA is lacking

907
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:31,719
the field by a lot. So I mean my question

908
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,880
is what I mean, are they trying to get more people?

909
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:36,320
Are they trying to get new people into set registry?

910
00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:38,320
Is this or do you have to be an extent

911
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,199
member of the set registry to get this in?

912
00:42:40,679 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: Well? I mean if you look at look at this

913
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:45,519
email says uh, thank you for being a set registry.

914
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:48,679
Speaker 1: Remember, we want to want, we want they want to

915
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,880
help us complete your sets, is basically what it says

916
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:51,599
up here at the top.

917
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,079
Speaker 2: So I think this is long overdue.

918
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

919
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: I've been calling for something like this for a while,

920
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,000
you know, like maybe a set registry special or something.

921
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,519
But I do like the idea of just a blanket discount.

922
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,800
I think that's that's pretty good. I definitely will be

923
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,719
sending in at least twenty cards to get my one

924
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,119
hundred and fifty dollars discount.

925
00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:11,599
Speaker 2: For sure.

926
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: You have to do this, I think by September thirtieth

927
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:19,639
to qualify for this, so you've got you know, six

928
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,760
weeks or more to do it. So I just thought

929
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,000
that this was a great move by PSA to really

930
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:29,079
help out the people on the set regstorm because you know,

931
00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:32,199
Vau says this a lot. He says that the PSA

932
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,800
Set Registry is the secret sauce for ps and it

933
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,000
really is, in my opinion, because if you're a set builder,

934
00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:41,039
you know, I'm a set builder, I know rich you

935
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,960
like to build sets, you know, not necessarily graded ones,

936
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,199
but but you like to build sets, and as a

937
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,199
set builder, you want to be complete.

938
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: You want to have the best ones that you can.

939
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,519
Speaker 1: But it's gotten to a point where it's not feasible

940
00:43:55,039 --> 00:43:59,920
to or cost effective to, you know, grade common cards

941
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:02,239
of you know, a common for me, like a race

942
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,519
car driver, it's's not worth it. So this is going

943
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:06,440
to help off set that, and it's going to help me,

944
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:09,000
you know, with my sets. It's going to make me

945
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:12,039
want to collect more sets. So I'm sure they're probably.

946
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:13,559
Speaker 2: Going to do this in the future. I'm sure this

947
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:14,639
is not a one off deal.

948
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:17,639
Speaker 3: As I said, my only issues, but I'm but you're right.

949
00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:20,199
That is something I did not consider when I said that,

950
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,800
you are correct because I and I think I was

951
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,079
basically correct because when everybody was falling away behind on grading,

952
00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:30,079
I said it would eventually fall to about what did

953
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:33,360
I say, the fifteen to twenty dollars mark for cards?

954
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,920
And I think PSA is what fifteen a card?

955
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: Now it's a little bit more than that.

956
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they're running a lot of specials, a lot,

957
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,119
running a lot of specials for TCG cards right now.

958
00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:46,519
So if you're a tc if you collect trading card games, man,

959
00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:48,800
it's right now is a good time because they they

960
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,280
have got some great special So let's let's let's.

961
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: Say but let's let's stay with fifteen dollars a card.

962
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,400
Before the pandemic was like eight ten dollars.

963
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:59,559
Speaker 2: A card, Yeah, something like that. It's like eight bucks

964
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:00,880
a card, eight bucks card.

965
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: Well, there's a big difference when you're I mean, if

966
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,599
you're doing an overproduced ARA set of seven hundred and

967
00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:07,320
ninety two cards, I don't care if it's eight dollars

968
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,760
or ten dollars. It's still going to cost you a

969
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,519
lot of money to finish your set. But it hurts

970
00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:14,159
a lot less at ten dollars a card than a

971
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,840
twenty dollars a card to do an eighty nine top set.

972
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:19,639
Speaker 2: Yes, agreed, he likes said there's.

973
00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: So in that case, I see where you're coming from

974
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,719
on that one. You know, I still don't understand. But

975
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,880
if you're and I think I understand, they may be

976
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,760
looking long term. Net Turner and his team they're very

977
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,480
data driven, so they may be looking at long term

978
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:36,119
trends that you and I don't know about either. Plus

979
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,519
the set registry is the thing. I mean, you I'm

980
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:42,239
sure you went. I'm want to say I'm sure you

981
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,119
want I should never say I'm sure about anything, but

982
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,280
I'm sure you went to the PSA party this year

983
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,280
at the National I did, and I was told it

984
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,559
was going to be in a really nice location. It was.

985
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: It was a place called Trust in downtown Cleveland, and

986
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:57,840
it was on the ninth floor of this building, and

987
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,440
you had an incredible view of the Cleveland skyline. It

988
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:04,760
was beautiful during the day and it was even more

989
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,760
stunning at night.

990
00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:09,119
Speaker 3: And having gone with you in twenty twenty two, you

991
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:11,800
were gracious to drive Go drive a couple of us

992
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,599
to the event. Parking was an interesting experience that, yes

993
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,199
it was, but you were gracious enough to drive us.

994
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,440
One thing I was not worried about with PSA is

995
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,159
the food was going to be good. I'm sure that's

996
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,719
not only the view, but I'm sure the food was

997
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:24,239
really good.

998
00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: To The food was great. The actual awards ceremony was great.

999
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: It was to me the set Registry dinner was probably

1000
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,840
the best one that I have attended, and I have

1001
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,360
attended I think almost every single one of em except

1002
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:38,719
for one.

1003
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: Since two thousand and six, I used to.

1004
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,639
Speaker 3: Occasionally go to the lunches, and I will tell you

1005
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,679
I really liked the lunches because it got don't laugh

1006
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,159
when I say this, It got me off the show floor. Yeah,

1007
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,480
and when you're on the show floor like I had

1008
00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:54,559
to be, or like I like to be, for a

1009
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:58,199
reason to getting off the show floor is something fun.

1010
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,199
And then for a fun thing like a dinner or

1011
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,559
a lunch that was really good.

1012
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I did enjoy the lunch and

1013
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,440
during you know, during the show on Fridays. But you

1014
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,840
know now that it's an offside event, you know, you

1015
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,719
can spend all your time at the show.

1016
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,039
Speaker 2: Then you can go to this is.

1017
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: It's a lot more casual, you get to meet people,

1018
00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:19,119
You're not as rushed to try to get back to

1019
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:19,559
the show.

1020
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:22,599
Speaker 2: So I do like the dinner part of it.

1021
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: Now. I think that PSA is really really ramped it up.

1022
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,199
I I I just can't imagine them toping this. But

1023
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,159
I'm sure next year though, we'll probably Chicago.

1024
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 3: There's a ton of nice places in the Chicago. As

1025
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,400
long as they bust us at me. As long as

1026
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,679
they bust us, it'd be a lot better.

1027
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: So foul Ball, he's he's real quick.

1028
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: He's asking any thoughts on Burbank sports cars, leaving eBay

1029
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:46,000
Beckett for Fanatics Live.

1030
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: Well, Rob did an interview with somebody that I watched,

1031
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,360
and Rob's situation is fairly unique. Rob can sell cards

1032
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,079
in a lot of places that most stores and most

1033
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,440
vendors cannot. And one thing I think he mentioned and

1034
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,679
I'm going memory, is the Fanatics has all the team stores.

1035
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,719
They own the for example, down here, they own the

1036
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,079
Dallas Cowboys you know, the you know, the Dallas Cowboys

1037
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,480
Pro shop is a Fanatics shot. The Texas Rangers you

1038
00:48:11,559 --> 00:48:15,119
know store at the ballpark is a Fanatics shop. Right,

1039
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:19,119
Rob can tailor cards to not just sell through the

1040
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:22,719
Fanatics Live thing, and but he can also now sell

1041
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:26,639
Texas Ranger cards at the ball at the Globelife Field,

1042
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:30,280
and at the Dallas Cowboys stores. He can sell Dallas

1043
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,960
Cowboys cards. And so for Rob, with his forty plus

1044
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:37,599
million card inventory, it's a move that makes sense, not

1045
00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:41,519
just in terms of and he's taking a leap of faith,

1046
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,519
but he knows what he can do on eBay, but

1047
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:47,239
he's taking the chance that he'll do even better with

1048
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,840
some in person sales, you know, targeted in person sales

1049
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:54,599
one hundred Dallas Cowboys nine ninety nine, nineteen ninety nine,

1050
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,760
twenty nine to ninety nine, you know, whatever price it is,

1051
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,159
at the local Pallas Cowboys pro shot. And if rob

1052
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,519
is the one doing that, that's inventory he has that

1053
00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:08,280
he can sell at the store that he's into, not

1054
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,800
for very much money and sells for a really good

1055
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,880
profit and has a working arrangement with Fanatics. So Fanatics

1056
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,480
also wants to do their Fanatics live. They they've they've

1057
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:21,239
it's been pretty public. They said, we want to basically

1058
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,440
control the entire flow of how cards get sold. Well,

1059
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,559
that's a pretty good way to get the biggest card

1060
00:49:26,639 --> 00:49:28,639
store in the country, the biggest card inventory in the

1061
00:49:28,639 --> 00:49:32,360
country on your side. And they've been famously at his store.

1062
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,880
There was the famous case where Ruben was Michael Rubin

1063
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,360
was there and he saw some young girl looking at

1064
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,199
cheap Devin Booker cards and he facetimeed Devin Booker to

1065
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,800
have so they could meet it at some at some game.

1066
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,440
That was a great move. And we can still talk

1067
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,159
about that. But that stuff Fanatics can do that eBay

1068
00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:51,079
Beckett can't do. True.

1069
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:51,679
Speaker 2: True.

1070
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,559
Speaker 1: So Orlando's on here, He's saying, hello everyone, I just

1071
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:58,280
want to let everybody know. I don't know if it's

1072
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,079
public knowledge or not, but it's fixing be public knowledge now.

1073
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,440
Orlando is going to be joining the Hobby Hotline crew,

1074
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:07,039
so we will be welcoming him.

1075
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 3: Orlando, call in so you can put another call in

1076
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,480
time to call in. We can give him a we

1077
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:13,760
can give him a formal welcome.

1078
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, call in Orlando real quick. Let me let me,

1079
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:20,039
let me grab the link and I will publish it

1080
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,559
and he can call in. Put that on the screen

1081
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:25,440
real quick. Right, So, yeah, we want to welcome him

1082
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,559
to the Hobby Hotline crew.

1083
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,679
Speaker 2: Can't wait for that. That's gonna be gonna be fun.

1084
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:31,679
Speaker 3: Yeah. I know in our chat we had mentioned two

1085
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,280
new people were coming and I didn't know who they were.

1086
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,440
But I'm glad. I'm really glad Orlando is one of them.

1087
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,760
He's he's knowledgeable. I'm old and new, which is great.

1088
00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and I've heard he has a very extensive

1089
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,559
vintage knowledge from what I've heard, so I'm glad to

1090
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:51,239
see that. So looks like, let's see, we'll give We'll

1091
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,440
give Orlando a second or two see if he wants

1092
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,280
to call in. But Rich, you know, it's been great

1093
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,400
having you on the show today. I wish Ris had

1094
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,400
joined us. I guess something must have happened. I hope

1095
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,159
he's Okay he did since he didn't make the show.

1096
00:51:05,559 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 3: Hey, we filled an hour without any real news. That's

1097
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:08,239
pretty good.

1098
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1099
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,639
Speaker 1: I had to do a little digging to find some

1100
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,800
some subjects to talk about, but I think I think

1101
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,840
it's been a pretty good show.

1102
00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:18,519
Speaker 3: Thank you all for thank you all for the great comments.

1103
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:21,079
Speaker 2: Yes, thank thank you to everybody in the chat. We

1104
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:22,039
really appreciate that.

1105
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 1: Rich Do you have anything that you want to promote

1106
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,079
talk about real quick before we get out.

1107
00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 3: I've got my synagogue show at ados Haby coming up

1108
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:35,159
Labor Day, Sunday and Monday. You're welcome to reach out

1109
00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:37,760
to me. I'm saber Geek. It all sorts of places

1110
00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:40,840
and I'd love to see you. As I said, it's

1111
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,239
a nice little show. Don't expect, you know, Pelican cases

1112
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,320
or anything like that. It's not a pelican case show.

1113
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,880
It's more of an old school show. Come and see

1114
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,840
what the hobby has been in the past. And then

1115
00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:55,440
I've got several shows in the next month just to attend.

1116
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,559
Our friend Kyle Robertson has invested BIA next weekend at

1117
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:01,920
the Dallas Card Show where he at the same place

1118
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,519
he has a Dallas card show. He also has that

1119
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,719
the week after my show, my Labor Day show, and

1120
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,679
then there's a couple other small shows coming up, another

1121
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,679
one next weekend in in Frisco, and then one coming

1122
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,480
up at the middle of September for way Down. I

1123
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:18,880
don't remember exactly where, but it's a very easy drive.

1124
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,840
And so there's a lot going on locally, and I

1125
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,800
know com Se is doing We're doing a lot of

1126
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,480
shows at com See. I know we're going to be

1127
00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:31,239
at both Fanatics Best and the East Coast National next weekend,

1128
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,199
and then we'll be at Burbank the weekend following that.

1129
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,559
And my Dallas teammates are doing the the criss crossing

1130
00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:39,280
the country. I mean, I shut her head us how

1131
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,119
exhausted they'll be when they get back to town.

1132
00:52:41,519 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 2: So Orlando has he has called in, so I'm going

1133
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,159
to add him, add him to the to the mix.

1134
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,480
Hey Orlando, Hey guys, Hey guys, we welcome to board.

1135
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 3: Orlando. It's great to see you.

1136
00:52:52,159 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 4: Oh, it's great to be on board. I talked to

1137
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,840
John Newman. I'm so excited to have have you guys

1138
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,239
Beyond Beyond with you guys. I you know, I listen

1139
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,559
to you guys every Saturday morning. So it's just great

1140
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:02,440
to be part of the team.

1141
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're excited to man, where are you at It

1142
00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:07,400
looks like you're out having some fun today. Yeah.

1143
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,079
Speaker 4: I'm just outside here, sitting by the lake over here,

1144
00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:11,840
and I figured, you know, I'm not gonna go inside,

1145
00:53:12,039 --> 00:53:15,039
gonna go ahead, just have a nice view here, just

1146
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:17,199
relaxing watching you guys here sitting by the lake.

1147
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: Oh cool, man. Well, we're excited, man, we're glad to

1148
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,440
have you on board.

1149
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

1150
00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:25,559
Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun talking to Rich and you and

1151
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,960
just everybody else, John and Danny, and the best part

1152
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,880
about it is moving from the chat to being actually

1153
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,480
on the video, So that'd be great.

1154
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:35,039
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1155
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: Well, I know I can speak for Rich probably too,

1156
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:39,440
but he and I both have a have a face

1157
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,360
for radio, so I don't know if we necessarily have.

1158
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 3: A face for and we need somebody good looking.

1159
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,599
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. So we're glad you here, man.

1160
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: Welcome aboard. We really are glad to have you, Sonona,

1161
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:52,880
to be on with you, guys, hobby legends.

1162
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: Thank you guys. Oh no, you're a hobby legend.

1163
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:55,119
Speaker 3: Man.

1164
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 2: We're glad to have you.

1165
00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:59,159
Speaker 3: I appreciate it all Man, Orlando since Logan asked me

1166
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,920
wemas and Logan said, what's coming? What's coming up for you?

1167
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:04,639
Uh No, just not much really.

1168
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 4: I'm waiting for the big Fanatics show in Orlando here

1169
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:12,280
at November fourth, I think it is, So I'm going

1170
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,880
to be attending that with a bunch of my friends there,

1171
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:16,719
and a lot of YouTubers are going to go there.

1172
00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:19,320
So other than that, I just go to all the

1173
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,079
local shows in the area, visit some hobby shops, and

1174
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:23,599
just kind of share.

1175
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 3: My collections, still showing some pickups from the National.

1176
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still have a little bit of a hangover

1177
00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:31,400
from the National myself because I lost a week because

1178
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,519
I had COVID and I didn't do anything. So now

1179
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:35,360
it's I'm kind of like a week behind right now.

1180
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

1181
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 3: I heard a lot of people got COVID. Thankfully I

1182
00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:40,360
was great, fine, no problems with me, But yeah, a

1183
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,159
few people got sick. I heard. Yeah, it was not

1184
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,280
as bad as twenty twenty two in Atlantic City, but

1185
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,079
it was definitely a very popular acquisition to the at

1186
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:49,159
the sleveland Nationals.

1187
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, almost as popular as V Friends anyway.

1188
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,159
Speaker 1: So all right, so I guess it's probably time to

1189
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,639
close out the show. Could catch me on NASCAR Radio

1190
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,880
with with val Mars. We we drop a new episode

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00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,199
every Friday morning Thursday night, so check that out.

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Speaker 2: And that's really all that I've got.

1193
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: So I guess I'm gonna say from Orlando and for Rich,

1194
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,840
I guess we will see you guys next week with

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a whole new crew.

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Speaker 2: For see you guys.

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Speaker 3: Take care you guys.