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<v Speaker 1>This episode maintained content of a graphic nature, including descriptions

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<v Speaker 1>of physical and sexual violence against adults, children, and animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, I'm Shannon. Hi I'm Tanya, and we are Crimes

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<v Speaker 2>and Consequences, a hardcore true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Ain't Shannon, Hey Tanya?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 2>I I love that dubious glee that I hear in

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<v Speaker 2>your tone. Yeah, and that's right. I did use dubious

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<v Speaker 2>glee lexicon lexicon adam. Oh, but I get it, girl.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a cold day and it's Sunday to start

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<v Speaker 2>the new week. I love a Monday. I don't mind Mondays.

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<v Speaker 2>What about you? Oh I hate Mondays?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually I hate Sundays because tomorrow is Monday, and

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, you know, it's just the coming down

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<v Speaker 3>from the weekend and you know whatever. But I had

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<v Speaker 3>a really great Sunday, so I can't complain. I like

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<v Speaker 3>a Sunday where I can sleep in a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>but then also get some stuff done and then still

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<v Speaker 3>also have time to myself. I know it's a la

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<v Speaker 3>on a Sunday, but yeah, my Sunday's been great, so

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<v Speaker 3>I can't complain. And I am looking forward to going

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<v Speaker 3>back to work tomorrow. I guess I'd have a shit

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<v Speaker 3>ton of stuff to do, so at least I'm busy

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<v Speaker 3>in the day will go by and that'll be that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and then Monday, I'll have another one down

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<v Speaker 2>in the books. Yeah. What do you got for us? Uh? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a story that you may or may not

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<v Speaker 2>have heard. This happened before the turn of the century,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety eight, and it involves a woman. Her name

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<v Speaker 2>is Christine Marie Riggs. She was born Thomas so Christine

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<v Speaker 2>Marie Riggs. She was born in Lawton, Oklahoma, on September two,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy one. So that makes her virgo correct. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe hergo. She had a pretty rough childhood, Christina did.

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<v Speaker 2>She grew up in Oklahoma City. According to records, she

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<v Speaker 2>had two sisters named Rosanna and Elizabeth, and her parents

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<v Speaker 2>they separated when Christina was really young. She stayed with

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<v Speaker 2>her mother, Carol, who was living with a man who

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<v Speaker 2>had a son of his own. Christina said that between

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<v Speaker 2>the ages of seven and thirteen, however, she was sexually

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<v Speaker 2>assaulted by her stepbrother, and when she was thirteen, she

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<v Speaker 2>said she was also sexually assaulted by her neighbor so

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<v Speaker 2>around nineteen eighty five, when she was fourteen years old,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when Christina she began drinking and smoking cigarettes and weed.

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<v Speaker 2>Throughout her high school years, she was bullied for being overweight.

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<v Speaker 2>She always thought that she would never have a boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>due to the way she looked. You know how it

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<v Speaker 2>is in high school, you just think you're not ready

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<v Speaker 2>to be on the cover of Vogue and a size zero.

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<v Speaker 2>What's you're worth right right now? Terrible? She became quite promiscuous,

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<v Speaker 2>sleeping with anyone who gave her attention or wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>have sex with her, and that's you know, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>sad to look at yourself that way. She later stated

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<v Speaker 2>that she thought this was the only way she could

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<v Speaker 2>ever get a boyfriend, and she never knew if she

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<v Speaker 2>would ever get another chance. And that's that's how low

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<v Speaker 2>her self esteem was. In January of nineteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>she had become pregnant with a baby boy, who she

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<v Speaker 2>gave up for a SIP because she was sixteen at

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<v Speaker 2>the time. Now, she did finish her schooling, graduating high school,

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<v Speaker 2>and she became a licensed practical nurse in LPN, but

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<v Speaker 2>this line of work would eventually be your downfall. She

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<v Speaker 2>worked a part time job as a home care nurse,

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<v Speaker 2>and she would work a full time job in the

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<v Speaker 2>Veteran Affairs hospital system. Hey, that's where I go throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the gyptandle down the VA Hospital in Detroit. These types

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<v Speaker 2>of hospitals provide health care for vets, which include mental health,

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<v Speaker 2>primary care, and health assistants for their loved ones. Shortly after,

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<v Speaker 2>she began a relationship with a man named Timothy Thompson,

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<v Speaker 2>who was stationed at Tinker Air Force Base located in

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma City. In October of nineteen eighty one, Christina became

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<v Speaker 2>pregnant again with her son Justine. Oh, I'm sorry, thank you, No,

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<v Speaker 2>this was we weregressed. We had the first child eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Then when he went back to a minute, okay, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>This was October of ninety one. So Christina told Timothy

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<v Speaker 2>about her pregnancy the day before. He was discharged from

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<v Speaker 2>the Air Force and didn't want to accept the baby

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<v Speaker 2>as his own. He didn't, so he then moved back

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<v Speaker 2>to his hometown in Minnesota. Timothy later said that Chrissy's

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<v Speaker 2>luck with men was about zero to nothing. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he just wasn't attached to Christina in that way that

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<v Speaker 2>Christina wanted a relationship, and when she found out she

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<v Speaker 2>was pregnant, he really didn't care enough about her to

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<v Speaker 2>be there for her or the baby when he was born. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>after giving birth to her son, Justin on June seventh,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety two, so he's a Jenini, Christina got back

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<v Speaker 2>in touch with a previous boyfriend, a sailor named John Riggs,

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<v Speaker 2>who was back home on leave. The two became romantically

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<v Speaker 2>involved again, and she eventually moved in with him and

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<v Speaker 2>brought along her little boy. According to Christina, their rekindled

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<v Speaker 2>romance was great, and since he felt the baby's first

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<v Speaker 2>kick when Justin sounds like that she may have been

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<v Speaker 2>seeing Justin's dad and mister Riggs here. So John knew

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<v Speaker 2>about Justin even though it wasn't his son, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was the first to feel the baby kick. He was

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<v Speaker 2>the father of the baby as far as he was concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the father of Justin, and he took care

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<v Speaker 2>of Justin and stepped up as his father even though

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't biologically the dad. All that's nice, Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>is really nice. Now. In July of nineteen ninety three,

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<v Speaker 2>she and John were married. Christina became pregnant again, and

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<v Speaker 2>in December of nineteen ninety four, she gave birth to

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<v Speaker 2>a daughter named Shelby Alexis and Justin referred to her

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<v Speaker 2>as Sissy, as did the rest of the family. What

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<v Speaker 2>a great nickname, yeat cute. Christina and John were both

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<v Speaker 2>so astatic when she was born, and the two of

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<v Speaker 2>them cried happy tears together. Christina said, we were so happy.

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<v Speaker 2>She was so beautiful. I didn't think things could get

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<v Speaker 2>any better. John cried. I cried. There was so much love,

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<v Speaker 2>so much love for her and the way he looked

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<v Speaker 2>at her. The birth of their daughter brought Christina out

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<v Speaker 2>of her depressive state. She suffered from depression, but the

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<v Speaker 2>happiness died down, and depression was right there to rear

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<v Speaker 2>its ugly head. Justin and Shall be adorable children. A

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<v Speaker 2>few months later, Christina packed up her kids with John

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<v Speaker 2>and they moved to Sherwood, Arkansas. That's how I call

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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas because I spell it. When I'm spelling Arkansas, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>with Arkansas. They moved to Sherwood, Arkansas, so that she

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<v Speaker 2>could be closer to her mom and to get as

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<v Speaker 2>much help as she could raising her two young children.

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<v Speaker 2>Now she was able to find a job at Baptist

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<v Speaker 2>Hospital in Oklahoma City. John ended up separating from Christina,

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<v Speaker 2>Justin and Shelby, however, and once their divorce was finalized,

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<v Speaker 2>the three of them were basically left to fend for themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>with child support coming from John irregularly. Now. The two

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<v Speaker 2>broke up after Christina accused John of punching Justin in

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<v Speaker 2>the stomach. John always denied that accusation and it was

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<v Speaker 2>never proven. I'm not saying either way, I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 2>that was the cause of their the beginning of their

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<v Speaker 2>and around this time, Christina was working as a nurse,

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<v Speaker 2>but she found herself drowning in debt when she couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>make ends meet with how much she was making and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to feed two rapidly growing kids. As a car

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<v Speaker 2>payment and Duran's bills were coming in along with all

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<v Speaker 2>of her other bills. She fell back into a depression

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<v Speaker 2>and was desperate to get out of the situation altogether,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what the cost and who she would have

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<v Speaker 2>to hurt along the way. According to reports, she would

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<v Speaker 2>drop off her kids at daycare so that she could

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<v Speaker 2>work long shift at the hospital, but the cost of

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<v Speaker 2>daycare was too costly for her to keep up with.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen ninety seven, Christina would come up with a

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<v Speaker 2>plan to end it all. On her last day of

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<v Speaker 2>work at the hospital, November fourth, nineteen ninety seven, Christina

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<v Speaker 2>stole a level elavil, which is an antidepressant. Some sources

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<v Speaker 2>said that she stole the elevil from the hospital and

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<v Speaker 2>some said that she brought it from a local drug store.

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<v Speaker 2>Either way, she didn't use it the way it was meant.

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<v Speaker 2>The main side effect of this drug is grogginess. The

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<v Speaker 2>drug lasts anywhere from twelve to twenty four hours, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's known to help patients with anxiety to sleep. Not

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<v Speaker 2>only did she steal that, but she also stole syringes,

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<v Speaker 2>potassium chloride, and morphine. When she returned home her kids

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<v Speaker 2>were still awake around ten pm. To get her kids unconscious,

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<v Speaker 2>she mixed the eleville with some water and gave it

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<v Speaker 2>to both Justin and Shelby. After both children were out cold,

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<v Speaker 2>their mother proceeded to inject Justin with the potassium chloride. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>to make this more heartbreaking, Justin awoke from the injection

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<v Speaker 2>and was screaming from the excruciating pain he was in.

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<v Speaker 2>She injected this right into his veins and he suffered

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<v Speaker 2>pretty severely and pretty severe burns from it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's only five. Yeah, And after hearing him crying in pain,

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<v Speaker 2>she then injected him with the morphine to help shut

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<v Speaker 2>him up. Oh my god, that didn't work. Yes, she's

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<v Speaker 2>a problem solver, she's a tear worthm No, that didn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did she do?

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<v Speaker 1>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>She smothered him with a pillow to end his life.

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<v Speaker 2>Good throughout the entirety, I know, throughout the entirety of

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<v Speaker 2>his mother smothering him. He fought back as hard as

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<v Speaker 2>he could. Terrible. Yeah, after what she had just experienced

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<v Speaker 2>with Justin's injections, she was not about to go through

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<v Speaker 2>that same ordeal with her two year old daughter. Christina

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<v Speaker 2>opted to just end her life by smothering her with

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<v Speaker 2>a pillow. Wow, I know, I don't. She later told

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<v Speaker 2>her mother Carol, that Shelby only fought back song. Once

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<v Speaker 2>both children were dead, she moved their bodies onto her

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<v Speaker 2>own bed and she laid a blanket over them. Then

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<v Speaker 2>she wrote out multiple suicide notes to her mother, her sisters,

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<v Speaker 2>and her ex husband John She then proceeded to make

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<v Speaker 2>an attempt on her own life, took a massive amount

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<v Speaker 2>of the oliville and injected herself with potassium chloride. This

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<v Speaker 2>amount of Eliville she took twenty eight tablets along with

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<v Speaker 2>the potassium chloride made her pass out on the bedroom floor.

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<v Speaker 2>So spoiler alert, She's she's gonna make it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, spoiler alert.

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<v Speaker 2>So the following day, now now this is November fifth,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety seven, her mother, Carol, was notified that Christina

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<v Speaker 2>never showed up to work, so she drove over to

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<v Speaker 2>her daughter's Sherwood home around four pm in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Later that day, she led herself in the house and

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<v Speaker 2>she knew that her daughter was home and wasn't answering

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<v Speaker 2>the door, and she made her way through the home

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<v Speaker 2>and found her two grandchildren in the bed and her

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<v Speaker 2>daughter passed out on the floor. She later stated that

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<v Speaker 2>she ran around the house screaming because she thought everyone

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<v Speaker 2>was dead. She called nine one one and told the operator,

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<v Speaker 2>my daughter and her babies are dead, and the EMT's arrived.

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<v Speaker 2>Christina was taken to the hospital Baptist Memorial about an

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<v Speaker 2>hour and a half later, and upon arrival Christina's stomach

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<v Speaker 2>was pumped and she was stabilized. While she was at

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital, the police alerted the hospital staff of what

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<v Speaker 2>she had done to her two young children, and the

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<v Speaker 2>staff was instructed to not let Christina have any visitors.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh her family really had no idea what was happening

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<v Speaker 2>and they were really not sure why they weren't allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to see Christina. So around midnight they got in touch

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<v Speaker 2>with her until he got to the hospital. The police

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<v Speaker 2>stayed back and searched the home while Christina was in

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital. While they were looking for evidence, the officers

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<v Speaker 2>came across her suicide notes that she had left behind.

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<v Speaker 2>Around nine twenty am on November sixth, detectives show up

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<v Speaker 2>at the hospital to speak with her Christina. They mirandized

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<v Speaker 2>her and she gave them a statement that went on

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<v Speaker 2>for eight minutes. In the statement, she walked through every

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<v Speaker 2>step she took to kill both of her children, and

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<v Speaker 2>she told the detectives how she tried to kill herself

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<v Speaker 2>along with Justin and Shelby. A couple of hours later,

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<v Speaker 2>Christina was released from the hospital and was transported to

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<v Speaker 2>Pulaski County Jail. She was charged with two counts of

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<v Speaker 2>capital murder. Christina arrived at the Pulaski County Circuit Court

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<v Speaker 2>in June of nineteen ninety eight, and she pleaded not

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<v Speaker 2>guilty by reason of mental disease or defect. Her defense

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<v Speaker 2>attorney never once chose to deny that she had killed

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<v Speaker 2>both of her children by drugging them and smothering them

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<v Speaker 2>to death at the ages of five and two years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Her defense team merely argued that the fact that their

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<v Speaker 2>along with zero self confidence, being sure and a bit

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<v Speaker 2>on the heavier side, she was a poor single mother,

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<v Speaker 2>and in the court it became relatively clear that she

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<v Speaker 2>did plan to kill herself after murdering Justin and Shelby.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the witnesses for the defense, a psychiatrists, got

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<v Speaker 2>short of acts of love for her kids. Dont seeing me,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see it, yeah right. She thought that Justin

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<v Speaker 2>and Shelby would be raised. The rest of their lives

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<v Speaker 2>completely separate from one another, since they each had different fathers,

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<v Speaker 2>and she knew that her mother would fight like hell

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<v Speaker 2>to keep them for herself, but knew that the courts

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<v Speaker 2>would award custody to their biological fathers. Obviously, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent that that you wo would have been

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<v Speaker 2>raised separately, right since John raised Justin straight out of

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<v Speaker 2>the womb, and Justin's father left to go back to

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota without a second thought.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>According to records, Christina suffered from a hereditary chemical imbalance,

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<v Speaker 2>which caused her depression to be at full force. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying like that post part This is not

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<v Speaker 2>even postpartum. Postpartum is after birth and her youngest Shelby

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<v Speaker 2>is two. First I was like, oh postpartum can I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not there. But from what I've heard, it's horrible as

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen from women who've suffered it. This isn't that.

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<v Speaker 2>As I mentioned earlier, According to Christina, she was sexually

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<v Speaker 2>abused as a child by two different people, and this

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<v Speaker 2>caused her to bottle all of her problems inside of her.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not all that affected her every day life. Christina

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<v Speaker 2>alleged that when the Murray Federal Building located in Oklahoma City,

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<v Speaker 2>was bombed by Timothy McVeigh in April nineteen ninety five.

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<v Speaker 3>You remember that, Yeah, Oh yeah, I remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>That was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The hospital where she was working assigned her to work

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<v Speaker 2>at the triage station not far from there to help

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<v Speaker 2>those who were seriously hurt in the blast, and her

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<v Speaker 2>defense attorney made it seem like she had been suffering

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<v Speaker 2>from post traumatic stress disorder from helping at that triage

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<v Speaker 2>with all those injuries. But when it was the prosecution's turn,

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<v Speaker 2>they stated that there was no record of her ever

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<v Speaker 2>working in the trio station and they believe that fact

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<v Speaker 2>about her to be Alie. The defense team put her

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<v Speaker 2>mother on the stand, and she told the court that

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<v Speaker 2>her daughter specifically told her that when she injected justin

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<v Speaker 2>with the potassium chloride, he began screaming and crying, saying

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<v Speaker 2>it hurts, it hurts. She said that just hearing this

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<v Speaker 2>retell the calmness of someone retelling the awfulness that they've.

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<v Speaker 3>Done right, but like nothing happened, like you're telling a

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and yeah, and he said it hurts, it hurts. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>if you came in on that conversation late. Well, why

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<v Speaker 2>was he say that? Oh, the mom injected him with

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<v Speaker 2>potassium chloride. It's heinous, disgusting. Yeah, yeah, she said she

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't put Shelby through that, and she smothered her with

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<v Speaker 2>a pillow. According to Christina, both were mercy killings. The

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<v Speaker 2>witnesses for the defense also determine these killings to be

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<v Speaker 2>out of pure love. When it was the prosecutions to

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<v Speaker 2>turn at bat they painted a much different image of

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<v Speaker 2>the murderous mother. They made Christina look like an evil

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<v Speaker 2>mother who wanted nothing more than to be rid of

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<v Speaker 2>her children from her own life, and to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of them she'd killed them. The state told the jurors

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<v Speaker 2>that Christina thought of Justin and Shelby as an inconvenience

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<v Speaker 2>more than anything else. She even went as far as

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<v Speaker 2>to plan the murders at least two weeks in advance

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<v Speaker 2>before she finally chose to go through with ending their

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<v Speaker 2>innocent lives. There was evidence presented that Christina would leave

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<v Speaker 2>her kids with her mother, Carol, so that she could

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<v Speaker 2>go out to karaoke bars long in the early morning hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Her eight minute long confession was admitted into evidence, and

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<v Speaker 2>the court got a chance to hear every word that

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<v Speaker 2>she told the two detectives on the mornings after the killings.

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<v Speaker 2>This pulled up the juror's heartstrings as they held on

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<v Speaker 2>to every word Christina was saying as she told the

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<v Speaker 2>detectives how she had planned it for weeks. The suicide

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<v Speaker 2>letters were presented to the court as evidence, and in

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<v Speaker 2>the letter to her mother, Carol Thomas, she stated that

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<v Speaker 2>she killed her children. In her letter to John Riggs,

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<v Speaker 2>her ex husband and Shelby's biological father, she told them

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<v Speaker 2>she took the lives of both children. On June thirtieth,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety eight, the jury deliberated for less than one

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<v Speaker 2>hour to find Riggs guilty on both counts of first

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<v Speaker 2>degree murder. The jury consisted of seven women and five men.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a death penalty trial. When Christina heard the

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<v Speaker 2>verdict run aloud to the courtroom, she collapsed onto the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>When the trial next phase of sentencing took place, Christina

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<v Speaker 2>looked at the jurors and spoke out and uttered three sentences.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to die, I want to be with my babies.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to give me the death penalty. The

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<v Speaker 2>jurors heard her, and that's exactly what they, along with

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<v Speaker 2>the judge, agreed to death by lethal injection. When Christina

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<v Speaker 2>heard her sentence, she squeezed her defense attorney's hand and

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<v Speaker 2>she thanked the jury members for that decision. Her original

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<v Speaker 2>execution date was set for August fifteenth that same year,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety eight. They weren't wasting any time. It did

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<v Speaker 2>end up getting postponed, as many executions do, though, so

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<v Speaker 2>her defense attorney, John Wesley Hall Junior, really had to

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<v Speaker 2>talk her into filing emotion for retrial, which, as you know, Tanya,

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<v Speaker 2>is just a certain parts that you get that conviction,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course the next step is motion for a retrial,

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<v Speaker 2>right right, yeah, he stated, we had to beg her

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<v Speaker 2>to file an appeal for the conviction. Christina's team chose

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<v Speaker 2>to move to have her statement to the detectives suppressed,

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<v Speaker 2>and her reasoning behind that was due to her medical

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<v Speaker 2>condition of being drugged and due to the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>her family made the decision to get an attorney for her.

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<v Speaker 2>According to Christina, the detectives completely violated her right to

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<v Speaker 2>counsel and her right to do process. Now here's something, Tanya.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they come in and you know, she's in

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital room and she's kind of drugged from herself

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<v Speaker 2>trying to kill herself with that e a little, so

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<v Speaker 2>she's doped up and they come in. Can you miranderize

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<v Speaker 2>a person who is not fully in their capacity?

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<v Speaker 3>You're not supposed to, they're supposed to be able to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're not under the influence of anything, because

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, all of that can be challenged. You have

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<v Speaker 3>of a sound mind. Some people will claim, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the insanity defense, whatever, but you can't be under the

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<v Speaker 3>influence of drugs or alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't while you're being interviewed or while you're just moran.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm wondering that sounds like something because if they interviewer,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows what she took and how long she's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be under the effects. Just because she's up and

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<v Speaker 2>awake doesn't mean she has.

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<v Speaker 3>All of her safe you know, right, that is about

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<v Speaker 3>her you yeah, no, you can't, You can't.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be challenged.

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<v Speaker 3>And then do you really want to mirandize someone who

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<v Speaker 3>is drunk and then have it be challenged and then

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<v Speaker 3>have it for you know, all of the evidence that

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<v Speaker 3>you collected, including any type of confession or whatever comes after, like,

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<v Speaker 3>do you really want that all thrown out and have

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<v Speaker 3>no case? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, You'd rather wait the twelve hours for the drug

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<v Speaker 2>whatever is in their her system to metabolize and be

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<v Speaker 2>out so you can get a sound talking an interview.

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<v Speaker 2>On the recording, the detectives stated the time, time of day,

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<v Speaker 2>and they introduced themselves. They then asked Christina if she

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<v Speaker 2>understood the fact that her statement was being recorded, and

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<v Speaker 2>she said back, yes, I do. One detective then told

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<v Speaker 2>her that they needed to start off the entire conversation

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<v Speaker 2>by advising her of her rights, and throughout the entire

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<v Speaker 2>reading of the Miranda Rights, Christina bowed her eyes out.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of the reading, the detective specifically asked

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<v Speaker 2>do you understand your Miranda Rights, Christina, to which she responded, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I do. Sorry. The detectives then stated they were running

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<v Speaker 2>an investigation into the quote unquote death of your two

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<v Speaker 2>babies and asked her if she wanted to tell them

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to Justin and Shelby. She said, flat out,

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<v Speaker 2>through their tears, I killed them, and then she talked

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<v Speaker 2>about how she got bottles and stuff from the very

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<v Speaker 2>hospital that she was in at the time of her hospitalization,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she stated she needed a cigarette. She went

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<v Speaker 2>into the detail about how she wanted to get Justin

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<v Speaker 2>out of the way first, since he would quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>give me more problem. She tried to give him the

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<v Speaker 2>injection because she thought it would just stop his heart,

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<v Speaker 2>but then he started screaming because of how much pain

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<v Speaker 2>he was in. When the injection didn't work, Christina said

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<v Speaker 2>that he kept yelling, Mama, Mama, mama. She then said

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<v Speaker 2>that there was no turning back at this point and

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<v Speaker 2>explained that she had wiped out her checking account completely

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<v Speaker 2>and gave all of her money to her mom. The

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<v Speaker 2>detectives asked Christina why she did all of this, and

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<v Speaker 2>she said that she did everything because she wanted to die,

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<v Speaker 2>but she didn't want to die and just leave her

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<v Speaker 2>children behind quote unquote to be a burden to somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>She refused to just kill herself because she just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want her children to think she did it because she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't love them. She also said that she didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>them to grow up apart from one another because Justin

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<v Speaker 2>and Shelby again had two different fathers. I knew if

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<v Speaker 2>I passed away that they would be fighting. My mother

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<v Speaker 2>for custody, and I didn't want that for nobody, she said. So,

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<v Speaker 2>not only does she fail at committing suicide, but she

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<v Speaker 2>killed both of her children. The detectives then asked her

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<v Speaker 2>if she did it for the sake of her children,

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<v Speaker 2>and she said that she did it for her own

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote peace of mind. She felt it was better

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<v Speaker 2>to kill herself and her children due to her own

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<v Speaker 2>financial stability, because she felt she couldn't go on anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Christina told the detectives that both Justin and Shelby were

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<v Speaker 2>already dead when she decided to take the eleville and

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<v Speaker 2>inject herself with a potassium chloride. After they were dead,

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<v Speaker 2>she waited about twenty minutes before ingesting anything. She further

419
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:51.799
<v Speaker 2>explained that she drank a lot of alcohol and smoked

420
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:54.880
<v Speaker 2>a cigarette. She went back into the bedroom and sat

421
00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:58.039
<v Speaker 2>for a moment before getting enough courage to kill herself.

422
00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Her whole thoughts was that since she had already killed

423
00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:05.759
<v Speaker 2>both of her kids, there was no turning back. After

424
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:09.640
<v Speaker 2>she killed Justin, she smoked a cigarette, then she suffocated

425
00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Shelby with the pillow. She gave her kids the eleville

426
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:14.720
<v Speaker 2>and a glass of water since it would help them

427
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:18.119
<v Speaker 2>sleep better and they wouldn't wake up to their mother

428
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.119
<v Speaker 2>killing them. What the f right? Right? Seriously, this is

429
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:27.680
<v Speaker 2>this thinking process. I love to hear people's thinking process,

430
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:31.519
<v Speaker 2>just to dissect it and see that this must have

431
00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:35.680
<v Speaker 2>been the only choices they thought they had, or made

432
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:41.319
<v Speaker 2>themselves believe that they only had, you know. Terrible. So

433
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.119
<v Speaker 2>when the police asked Christina how long she had been

434
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:48.240
<v Speaker 2>thinking about killing her children, her response was that she

435
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:50.559
<v Speaker 2>was thinking about it for two or three weeks prior.

436
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:54.119
<v Speaker 2>The detective asked what made her decide to go through

437
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.559
<v Speaker 2>with everything, and she said that she couldn't take it

438
00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>anymore and she felt that she was completely losing control

439
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.000
<v Speaker 2>over her whole life. She told the detectives that she

440
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:06.160
<v Speaker 2>had tried to talk to people about her losing control,

441
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:09.839
<v Speaker 2>but she said that whatever she would try, nobody had

442
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:13.359
<v Speaker 2>time for her. The detective asked if she had anything

443
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:15.880
<v Speaker 2>else to say about what she did, and Christina said,

444
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.519
<v Speaker 2>I wish I hadn't done it now. She then started

445
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:25.440
<v Speaker 2>rambling about old people getting on and off escalators, just gibberish.

446
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:30.799
<v Speaker 2>This statement had been transcribed before the hearing to suppress it,

447
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 2>and the court had a statement from the emergency room

448
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.640
<v Speaker 2>doctor at the time that Christina was admitted. Doctor Buford

449
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.240
<v Speaker 2>testified that Christina was showing results of a drug overdose,

450
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:44.559
<v Speaker 2>which is why her stomach was pumped. Then said that

451
00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Christina had been given a dose of charcoal so that

452
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:50.880
<v Speaker 2>any leftover drugs could be absorbed. On the morning that

453
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:54.240
<v Speaker 2>she spoke with the detectives, Christina was alert and her

454
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:58.160
<v Speaker 2>vitals were stable. Doctor Buford said that whenever he asked

455
00:27:58.160 --> 00:28:01.480
<v Speaker 2>her questions, she answered a probately to all of them,

456
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:05.279
<v Speaker 2>and she never showed any signs of being incoherent, nor

457
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:09.960
<v Speaker 2>did she show any signs of hallucinating. Another doctor, a

458
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:14.240
<v Speaker 2>registered nurse named Karen Styles, was working in the ICU

459
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:17.000
<v Speaker 2>on the night that Christina came into the hospital on

460
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:20.000
<v Speaker 2>the night of November fifth. She stated at the time

461
00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:23.680
<v Speaker 2>that Christina came in, she was being confrontational and was

462
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:28.559
<v Speaker 2>extremely confused. Styles then said that the following morning, Christina

463
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 2>was stable and coherent as she answered all the questions

464
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:37.000
<v Speaker 2>she was asked. While testifying at the motion to suppress hearing,

465
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.359
<v Speaker 2>she looked at the note she had made in Christina's chart.

466
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:44.559
<v Speaker 2>Around seven point thirty the following morning, November six, she

467
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>was alert and focused. She also testified that when she

468
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:52.839
<v Speaker 2>would ask Christina questions that she answered quickly and was

469
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:56.160
<v Speaker 2>talking very fast, but not fast enough to where she

470
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:59.759
<v Speaker 2>couldn't understand. A test was done on Christine using the

471
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Glos Glascow coma scale, and this was to measure her

472
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.720
<v Speaker 2>level of consciousness at eight am that same morning. Christina

473
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:11.480
<v Speaker 2>got the highest grade of fifteen that can be achieved

474
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:16.559
<v Speaker 2>using this test, so she was alert while while Nurse

475
00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Karen was being cross examined, she stated that Christina signed

476
00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>the discharge papers, but her signature wasn't legible now. The

477
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:30.200
<v Speaker 2>detectives who handled the initial interview with Christina also testified

478
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>at the suppression hearing, and they both testified to the

479
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.240
<v Speaker 2>fact that that once didn't she attempt to stop the

480
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:40.319
<v Speaker 2>interview as it was happening, even though her lawyer wasn't present.

481
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.720
<v Speaker 2>They also did not at all force her to provide

482
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 2>a statement of her confessing to the murders of her

483
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:51.720
<v Speaker 2>two children and her own attempted suicide. One detective, detective

484
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:56.039
<v Speaker 2>James Harper, he testified that while sitting in Christina's hospital

485
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 2>room on the morning after the murders, he heard her

486
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.920
<v Speaker 2>say I had to do it so I wouldn't leave

487
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:06.559
<v Speaker 2>them behind. Christina called a few people to testify at

488
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:09.799
<v Speaker 2>her own suppression hearing, and her team called an er

489
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 2>doctor who told the court that she was not making

490
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:16.960
<v Speaker 2>any sense and was utterly incoherent when she was brought

491
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.519
<v Speaker 2>into the er on the evening of the murders of

492
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:23.160
<v Speaker 2>her children. Yeah. I can see, yeah, she's doped up

493
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>on the evening, but these questions are in the morning

494
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.119
<v Speaker 2>where everything's worn off, you know, and she's made it,

495
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 2>even though more doctors testified to the same fact on

496
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:37.799
<v Speaker 2>the night of the killings, but later testified that she

497
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>was completely fine the following morning. The defense called another nurse,

498
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Julia Brown, who testified that Christina was confused and combative

499
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:51.079
<v Speaker 2>up until at least worry. On the following morning, the

500
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:54.079
<v Speaker 2>same nurse testified that she wasn't all surprised when the

501
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 2>nurse at Ship Change said that Christina was alert and

502
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>completely fine. She ended her testimony by saying that it

503
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.640
<v Speaker 2>wasn't unusual for a victim of an overdose to be

504
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.720
<v Speaker 2>fine the next morning or within a couple of hours.

505
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:12.400
<v Speaker 2>They usually are. Christina actually said to nurse Julia, I

506
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.720
<v Speaker 2>killed my kids. She's probably in some sort of shock

507
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:19.200
<v Speaker 2>at her own telling the nurse. She's telling the detective

508
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 2>Christina's prod. You can't believe what you did. I'm sure yes,

509
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.400
<v Speaker 2>And hearing your own self say it, That's that's the

510
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:32.880
<v Speaker 2>vibe I'm getting too. Christina's mother, Carol, she got on

511
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:36.319
<v Speaker 2>the stand to testify for her daughter, and she told

512
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>the court that her daughter was confused even after she

513
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:44.519
<v Speaker 2>gave her statement to the detectives. Apparently, Christina was claiming

514
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:47.720
<v Speaker 2>that she was confused on whether Shelby was even dead.

515
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>She literally told the detectives that she suffocated her with

516
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:55.480
<v Speaker 2>a pillow and she barely fought because she was so little.

517
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Now she doesn't even now, she's talking like she's still here.

518
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:02.559
<v Speaker 2>So Carol told the court that Christina was confused because

519
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:07.759
<v Speaker 2>she hallucinated conversation that she had had with her dead daughter.

520
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Christina's sister, Rosanna, testified to the same thing. She said

521
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:15.920
<v Speaker 2>that her sister was confused following the statement that she

522
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:19.079
<v Speaker 2>had given the detectives, and she told her that she

523
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:23.160
<v Speaker 2>had played with Shelby. After the statement, Christina's aunt took

524
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.839
<v Speaker 2>to the stand and testified that Christina was hallucinating her

525
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:31.400
<v Speaker 2>dead kids. Her other sister, Elizabeth, took the stand and

526
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.160
<v Speaker 2>said that her sister was very dazed, confused, and was

527
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.559
<v Speaker 2>seeing things and was able to describe things that weren't

528
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:41.920
<v Speaker 2>even there. The last thing mentioned when it was Christina's

529
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.759
<v Speaker 2>turn to present witnesses and evidence was the fact that

530
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>she was rambling on about escalators at the conclusion of

531
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:53.079
<v Speaker 2>the interview with the detectives. Even after all of this,

532
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 2>her motion to suppress the confession was denied. The court

533
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.839
<v Speaker 2>found that her statement was completely voluntary and was not

534
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:06.880
<v Speaker 2>at all a result of hallucinations. Many doctors testified that

535
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:10.160
<v Speaker 2>before she gave any statement to law enforcement, she was

536
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:14.200
<v Speaker 2>completely alert and not at all confused or dazed. Prior

537
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>to any of these court proceedings, Christina received a mental

538
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:22.559
<v Speaker 2>evaluation from doctor John Anderson, a licensed psychologist from the

539
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Arkansas Division of Mental Health and Sciences. He determined that

540
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:29.759
<v Speaker 2>she was able to understand what she did was wrong

541
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:34.079
<v Speaker 2>and against the law when she killed Justin and Shelby

542
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:38.119
<v Speaker 2>on November fourth, nineteen ninety seven. The court fully relied

543
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.839
<v Speaker 2>on his evaluation when the time came to make this

544
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:45.039
<v Speaker 2>decision to not suppress her statement, Christina tried to further

545
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:48.359
<v Speaker 2>escalate her motion by stating that she was never told

546
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 2>that her family had retained legal representation for her. Before

547
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:56.920
<v Speaker 2>making the statement, the lawyer who was retained by Christina's

548
00:33:56.960 --> 00:34:00.480
<v Speaker 2>family did call the police department and he told him

549
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:03.240
<v Speaker 2>that he would be acting as her legal counsel. The

550
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:07.160
<v Speaker 2>attorney was then told by law enforcement that Christina wouldn't

551
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:10.840
<v Speaker 2>be interviewed about the murders until the following day, but

552
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>only a few hours later police questioned Christina when she

553
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:17.079
<v Speaker 2>confessed to killing her children. So to make their argument

554
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:21.719
<v Speaker 2>even more complicated, her attorney argued that the prosecution made

555
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 2>some damaging notes during the opening remarks to the jury members,

556
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:29.400
<v Speaker 2>and then he accused the jurors of not taking their

557
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:33.960
<v Speaker 2>roles an oath seriously enough for his liking. The ruling

558
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:39.000
<v Speaker 2>was not reverse and her death sentence was upheld. She

559
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:41.320
<v Speaker 2>was told that she had the right to remain silent.

560
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 2>She waived her right. She was then deemed competent to

561
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.480
<v Speaker 2>be executed, so after all the bullshit, Christina was taken

562
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:55.800
<v Speaker 2>to the Correction Department McPherson's unit in Newport, Arkansas, and

563
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.199
<v Speaker 2>she was the only inmate in the three cell woman's

564
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>death rope facility. She was provided some off white prison

565
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:07.519
<v Speaker 2>clothing along with sneakers. According to her reports, she was

566
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 2>taken good care of as she awaited her execution date.

567
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.760
<v Speaker 2>The food was pretty decent, and she even made a

568
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 2>comment about putting on at least thirty pounds since she

569
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:20.280
<v Speaker 2>had been at that death row facility. She was actually

570
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:24.039
<v Speaker 2>allowed to see visitors at times within a visitation room

571
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:28.079
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't far from the death row cell. Whenever she

572
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 2>was not in her cell, she was handcuffed, and when

573
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.199
<v Speaker 2>she spoke with her visitors, she talked to them through

574
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 2>a window. She was allowed to use makeup and curl

575
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:40.320
<v Speaker 2>her hair for when she had people come see her.

576
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:43.639
<v Speaker 2>Her mom sent her some books to read and she

577
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:48.000
<v Speaker 2>was able to watch TV. Since she had literally nothing

578
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.719
<v Speaker 2>else to do with her time as she waited for death,

579
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.639
<v Speaker 2>she would crank out multiple books per week. She was

580
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:57.559
<v Speaker 2>allowed to exercise in a tiny outdoor yard that was

581
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:01.000
<v Speaker 2>right next to her prison cell. She did an interview

582
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:05.119
<v Speaker 2>and when asked with how she was dealing with everything mentally,

583
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 2>she stated that she struggled constantly with what she did

584
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:13.480
<v Speaker 2>to her children. She stated that God punished her by

585
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:17.280
<v Speaker 2>letting her live without them. She told the person interviewing

586
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 2>her that she was impatient and excited to die. I'll

587
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.840
<v Speaker 2>be with my children and with God. I'll be where

588
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 2>there's no more pain. Maybe I'll find peace. The governor

589
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 2>of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee, took a look at Christina's case,

590
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:37.079
<v Speaker 2>but did not overturn it. He set her execution date

591
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 2>to May second, two thousand and Her sentence was to

592
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.320
<v Speaker 2>be carried out between the hours of eight and nine

593
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:48.639
<v Speaker 2>pm in the Commons Unit, Arkansas. Three days prior to

594
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:52.360
<v Speaker 2>her execution, she was transferred to the Commons Unit from

595
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:55.239
<v Speaker 2>McPherson and it's a two and a half hour drive.

596
00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.360
<v Speaker 2>The execution was delayed by eighteen minutes due to difficulties

597
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.159
<v Speaker 2>finding viable veins for the catheters.

598
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:05.639
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, isn't I know.

599
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Christina eventually agreed to have them placed into the veins

600
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:14.840
<v Speaker 2>on her wrist. And I have that problem too with veins,

601
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Like sometimes they can't my veins roll. They're not good

602
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:23.679
<v Speaker 2>juicy veins. So she's not him veins. Yeah, I have

603
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.719
<v Speaker 2>good juice veins. I never have a problem with mine.

604
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:29.360
<v Speaker 2>She was the first woman to be executed in the

605
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:33.880
<v Speaker 2>state of Arkansas since the state began performing them eighty

606
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:38.320
<v Speaker 2>seven years prior. In nineteen thirteen. He was the fifth

607
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:42.039
<v Speaker 2>woman executed in the entire country since the death penalty

608
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:45.639
<v Speaker 2>was reinstated back in nineteen seventy six, and she was

609
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:50.559
<v Speaker 2>only twenty eight years old when her heart stopped. Potassium chloride,

610
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:55.159
<v Speaker 2>the same drugs she ejected into her son and into herself,

611
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 2>is one of the three drugs used when carrying out

612
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:01.800
<v Speaker 2>her death sentence by lethal injection.

613
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:05.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh, the irony, isn't it.

614
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:07.239
<v Speaker 2>When I found out that she had done that to

615
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:10.480
<v Speaker 2>her son with the potassium chloride. I don't know much

616
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:13.599
<v Speaker 2>about death by lethal injection, but I know there's more

617
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:14.119
<v Speaker 2>than one.

618
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you get like a not a I

619
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:21.119
<v Speaker 3>think you get a painkiller maybe, or something something that

620
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:21.639
<v Speaker 3>sedate to you.

621
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I think is one of them, something like a heavy xanax.

622
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:25.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

623
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't feel the if she's with her her

624
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:32.360
<v Speaker 2>kids again, and it's just one of those sad.

625
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:34.960
<v Speaker 3>It's just sad all around, Like who.

626
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Nobody, This is a terrible case. She's young, her kids are.

627
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.159
<v Speaker 3>Young, I know, and of course what she did was

628
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 3>wrong and absolutely I just don't even understand why she

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<v Speaker 3>did it. It's just depression. I guess you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>depression and the pressure of life, and I guess, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you want the mom to be healthy because healthy

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<v Speaker 2>moms are happy kids and could have been done to

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<v Speaker 2>help her not done. Be so fatalistic and so final

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<v Speaker 2>on everything. Desperate, it has to be desperate. Well, won't

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<v Speaker 2>people do when they're desperate?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I kill your five year olds and your two

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<v Speaker 3>year old.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate stories like this.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate all of our stories.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just so yeah, Like I like to tell them

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<v Speaker 2>just so people are aware, you know, this is really right.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, at the same time, these absolutely suck. And

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<v Speaker 2>if I drank, If I was a drinker, this would

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<v Speaker 2>be a problem for me definitely, But thank god I'm not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>got job once in a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank goodness. I don't have addiction to any kind

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<v Speaker 3>of substances because, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Be happy. It's just so sad.

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<v Speaker 3>The psychology of behind why people do things is always

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<v Speaker 3>so interesting to me. So when we tell when you're

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<v Speaker 3>telling me the story, I'm trying to figure out, like,

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<v Speaker 3>why would.

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<v Speaker 2>She do that? You know what was?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the same with like when we tell a story

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<v Speaker 3>about a serial killer, I'm like, why why is this person?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, feel this compulsion to murder people, So I

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<v Speaker 3>just it's just craziness. I guess I don't know, and

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<v Speaker 3>as just a sad, sad story, but thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>telling it.

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<v Speaker 2>As always my pleasure to brand.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, thank you everyone for listening to this week's episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is all right you until next time,

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<v Speaker 2>my friends, I love you.

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<v Speaker 3>Until next time, I'll talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye.