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Speaker 1: In season nine, episode four, you're refurbishing the Black Widow

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and one scene Nub asks is asked to paint over

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the OCC logo and replace it with Pjd's new logo,

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and they're wondering if you regret that now, you know,

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I do?

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Speaker 2: You know, at the time, I wasn't, as I don't know,

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conscious of historical things, and I was also trying to

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distance myself from OCC at the time because we had just,

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for all intentsive purposes, broke up. Yeah, and you know,

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I was kind of I just got the Black Widow

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back and it needed a little freshening, and so I

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did change it. And I remember in that episode Nub

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said he didn't agree with it, and I was like, dude,

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mind your own damn business. And then so I was

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like a little annoyed, like whatever, but he was right, Yeah,

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he was because now look around, right, I collect all

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these historical items going back, some of it one hundred years,

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and I just feel like it would have been better

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to keep the original, the original everything. Yeah, but it

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also came back to me at a time where things

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were weird and I only got the one bike back.

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My father got the other one. Hundred bikes, right, So

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I was trying to not only refurbish it or just

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just you know, spruce it up a little bit, but

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also kind of just get away from the CC logo

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and be like, you know, I'm looking at the fender

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right here. It looks great. I just think it would

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have been better for what is it? Prosterity? Is that

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the right term.

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Speaker 1: I feel like at the time you were trying to

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obviously distance yourself, but you were also trying to establish yourself.

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I mean, we had just it was only maybe a

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year or.

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Speaker 2: So into right we're building bikes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what do you think At the time, I mean,

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I don't know if I had a real opinion about it. It

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seemed like a very personal decision to you, you know,

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but I could see in hindsight how maybe you would

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have liked to have kept it, you know. I mean,

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we have the Yankees bike over here that you and

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your father built together, and we have both logos on it.

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Speaker 2: We do. But this thing's so much better than it

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was the first time, in my opinion. I mean, I know,

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it was like weird what happened to it? But look

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how good it me Now? It's a totally different bike

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in a good way. Yeah, so in that case that

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needed to be done right, Really, the Black Widow didn't

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need to be changed. Now it doesn't really matter because

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it's my overall design and I could pretty much do

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what I want with it, and it's not like someone

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else did it. I did it. Yeah, you know, that's

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my Like, if I have one bike that represents me,

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it's probably the Black Widow. So I think that I

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had a lot of license to do it. But in hindsight,

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just for historical sake, I probably at this stage of

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my life would have left it alone, but I didn't

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really have a sense of that at the time. Yeah,

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you know, so I guess the short answer is, yes,

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I do regret it, but I'm not losing sleep over it.

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I think if I had it to do over again,

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i'd keep the way. I'd keep it the way it

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was and just maybe freshen it up, maybe a fresh clearcoat,

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buffet out, that kind of thing. But that's about it.

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So I'm not losing sleep over it. It still looks

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spectacular and it's got my logo on it. You know. Again,

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timing was a big thing. Then there's so much pressure

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going on. There was so many variables. It was a

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tough time, and I didn't I was really trying to

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make my own way. You know. You got to remember

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like all those years of starting the company with my

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father creating the OCC logo, and then I'm forced, not

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really forced, but I felt like I needed to like

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take the very logo I created because it was no

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longer mine, off the bike and put the new logo

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on to kind of, I think, establish myself more than

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anything else, yourself, to represent myself. You know, I wasn't

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going to be driving that thing around with the OCC

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logo on it when it was no longer you, it

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was no longer me, you know. So that's my long

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short answer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So another question was was Rachel's family a fan

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of the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, right, Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 1: I feel like when they aired, definitely, like my mother

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would stay up and watch it, like we all watch,

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like making sure that everything was.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh you mean when we were together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it, I would assume so.

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Speaker 2: Well, so when we did, and I think this is

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on the show when we unveiled the New York Jets

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bike and we drove it out on the field. Your brother, yes,

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your father and your grandfather were at that game, so

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they saw us ride out on the field. Yeah, now

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that was a long time That was a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: That was way before we met.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was way before we met. That was probably well.

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Speaker 1: My grandfather, my my father, and my brother all had

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season tickets.

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Speaker 2: Right, so they were there when we went out on

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the field. And I forget what, I forget what bikes,

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but I know we had the Jets bike. We were

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like unveiling the New York Jets bike. The stadium was

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going insane. Yeah, the Jets exhaust kind of faces down

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and just from idling parked, it melted a spot in

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the turf. They were not happy about that. Yeah, that's

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was probably an expensive problem for that.

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Speaker 1: I blame that loss on you. Then that day, I'm assuming, yea.

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Speaker 2: They always lose, They're the Jets. I know, it's terrible

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but true. Uh yeah, so yeah, I think from that perspective.

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And then of course once we got together, I'm sure

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everybody was more hyper focused on, you know, the show

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because it's an interesting thing, you know, and your mom's

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always been like a warrior for looking to choke someone.

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Speaker 1: Out and have any problems.

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Speaker 2: So so yeah, I think, you know, the family definitely

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supported it, you know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So another question that we had was why did

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you go from a long chopper to more of a

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shorter wheelbase bike.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say say it was shorter wheelbase. I think

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the way you would describe the styles and it is

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dramatically different. The chopper, like the Black Widow, is like

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a big upstretch and then long forks, you know, the

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pro street, which is what I would call the style

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in what it is is a lower bike could be

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as long, not usually, but like MLB. Yeah yeah, like

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MLB is a long bike, but it's like low to

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the ground, really curvy. I had really got into that

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style heavily when I started building bikes for myself because

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I just felt like the lines are so much nicer.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Choppers are specific and they're a little bit I don't

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know the Black Widow spectacular, but a lot of choppers

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are a little bit much where these pro streets they're

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nice and low tank hugs the motor, the long stretched

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curvy tank. You know, we were doing the frames like

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that real low, like sometimes under stock height, and then

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you got that real tight front end with a real

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tall tire, and I was doing twenty inch wheels that

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are fat. So now the tire heights are getting better

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and bigger. So when I started building bikes, the twenty

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six inch front wheel was like I used constantly, Yeah,

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and that was a perfect size because you could do

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a lot with that real estate. And the same thing

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with the rear wheel. You know, at twenty inch rear wheels,

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like the biggest rear they don't even make that wheel anymore, right,

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so they just have an eighteen which basically is the

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height of the rim, and the taller of the rim,

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the more space, the more you could do with.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you started using like a fatter rear

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tire as well. Of some of the builds, right.

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Speaker 2: We did, we were like two forty two fifty. Actually

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it was a twenty two eighty that I used, So

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it was bigger than a two forty or two fifty,

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which is a lot of Like I think what's on

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the Black Widow is like a two forty or two twenty,

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and that's just millimeters wide. So it was a twenty

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two eighty like the MLB bike's got a twenty two eighty,

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and if you look at it the way the seat

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drops down, and because that tire is so tall, it

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just it adds so much curve to the bike and

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it's much more attractive to the eye. And the same

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thing would build off too, and you can really see

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the difference. Like the Yankees bike looks great, but it's

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not as sexy. It doesn't have as much curb appeal

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in my opinion, at least the lines of it.

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Speaker 1: Right, you know, yeah from a distance overall.

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Speaker 2: Look, Yeah, And I just I gravitate towards that in

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my head. I just want it to be like slick

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and really attractive looking, if that makes any sense. And

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I think that's good branding because a lot of people

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like that. Look, you know. That's that's that's my short answer,

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although I will say I do feel like, I don't know, man,

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Choppers I think could make a comeback, and I love Choppers.

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And really, if you're going to build like a basic Chopper,

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it's a super simple bike. Yeah, and that's kind of

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what's fun about it. And there is something unique about

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riding a Chopper compared to a pro street It's a

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totally different experience, you know. I mean with a Chopper

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when that wheels all the way out in front of you.

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There's just there's something fun about it. It just feels

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like wild West, you know. So, but again aesthetically, if

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it's sitting there like MLB, I mean, look at that thing.

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half as good, right.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it fits the branding.

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Speaker 2: It fits the branding, you know. Now, if you were

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to come to me and say, here's what we are

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and the Chopper was more in step, especially if you said, oh,

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we like the black Widow, Because remember what I'm building

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for customers, I'm kind of listening to what they have

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to say. So some customers even like we did Sewan

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Down's bike, Yes, right upcice right Universal Casualty and Casualty

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Insurance Insurance Company. Yes, yes, I should get that right.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, he liked a certain style that he got a

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Chopper and we did that. We did that sides of

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the tank with the with the spacers and gave that

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real like ghosty look to it. It's pretty killer bike.

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So you know, it really has a lot to do

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with application too. But like, if I have the choice,

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I'm almost always going to go pro street with this

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low long look, you know, yeah. Uh, someone said, because

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I was looking through the questions like low displacement, like

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smaller engine bikes, would you do something with that? And

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I would, I would do something with like a smaller

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motor or an electric motor.

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Speaker 1: And it's kind of like, given the opportunity, like if

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that like came across your desk, you know what, I mean,

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to do something like that would be a neat project.

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Speaker 2: Agreed. Yeah, you're right, Like if if we had an

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opportunity to do something like that, or if I had

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a choice and a client and I said, well, what

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do you think about this? I like the load displacement

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because I don't know, it's just a smaller motor, maybe

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easier to and do some fun stuff with. It just

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changes parameters. But certainly electric is appealing to me, and

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I'm very interested in building an electric bike. And what's

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good about it is, you know, when you have a

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gas engine and that's air cool that has an exhaust

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that heats up. Those are all things you have to

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contend with from a design standpoint. You have to make

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sure it looks good, but it also functions well. With

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electric it's like the gloves are off because you're as

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long as you could hide those batteries and get that

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motor in the right spot. It's you could do anything

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you want.

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Speaker 1: They make an electric motor that would work for a

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bike where it's yeah govern correctly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah stuff, it's all out. Yeah. Back when we first,

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like I think we dabbled with electric back in the day,

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it was very new and it was like there weren't

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I think you had to be like a mad scientist

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to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Yet right now there's so much available, you know, for bicycles,

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for motorcycles, and it's really for motorcycles just it's more

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about the capacity the batteries for range and distance than

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anything else, you know.

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Speaker 1: So you would have probably more real estate then because

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you don't have as many components or not really because

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you would need batteries.

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Speaker 2: You would need batteries, so where the engine is would

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be pretty much all batteries, right, you know, And then

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you got to and then you got to cover or

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the tank. You know, you can get real creative with it.

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batteries so you don't have a traditional look. But that's

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what's fun about it. It kind of opens up some

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doors that you can't do with a combustion engine, you know, creatively,

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That's what I like about it. And I was talking

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with this company more recently and I have to take

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a ride to their shop in Jersey. They build electric cars.

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And then we also met that other company in Florida

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and they build the electric electric motorcycle. So I could

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even see maybe partnering with a company that builds electric motorcycles.

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I do the design, and I have ideas like crazy

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for a design, and I would even maybe pull some

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ideas from some of the my iconic bikes, integrate that inspiration,

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I think so, and then man, that's it, and they

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work with them because they're the experts in the drive

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train and how it all works, right, they already got

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that flush.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to figure it out from scratch exactly.

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Speaker 2: And then maybe even do like a production line of bikes,

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not not any massive amount, but maybe limited run or something.

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Speaker 1: I feel like electric bicycles have taken off so much.

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It's so crazy to see all the kids riding around

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on electric bikes now. But no one's pedaling anymore.

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Speaker 2: No one's pedaling, man, They just give it there, like

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on these little electric bicycle slash motorcycles and they do

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like thirty forty miles an hour some of them.

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Speaker 1: So when you think twenty and then twenty eight, I

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think is what it is, what it can go up

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to or something like that, or it's supposed to be

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twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I mean electric bicycles are like taking

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over the pedal, yeah, big time. And you know, we

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did the electric bikes here during COVID right with that

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with the company, and uh that worked out great for us.

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It was like a fun time filler at least, you know,

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and the bikes look good and we have a couple

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of them still. So yeah, I love electric power. I

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think it's fantastic. You know, it's no replacement for the

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V twin, no rumble down the road, but certainly I

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think there's a lot of value there, you know, and

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think about it. No admissions, so you know, you could

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drive it inside.

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking for like an unveil because sometimes

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that's like if if you can like ride the bike

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in or not, or if all liquids have to be

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removed from the bike if you're like inside at like

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a convention.

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Speaker 2: And they could pipe in the sound now too, and

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it's pretty good. It's not cheesy that you can have

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all kinds of like, you know.

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Speaker 1: Make like you could make the bike like rumble too, probably.

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Speaker 2: Probably with a little rattle box in there. Probably why not?

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You know, that's the fun part. I don't think. I

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think it's a very untouched market, especially in the custom world.

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few people are so in that in that area. There's

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not a lot out there, so it'd be fun to

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work with it. You know. Someone was asking about my beard.

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They were saying, how gray it was? Yes, And you know,

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I don't know. Do you like my beard?

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Speaker 1: I like your beard?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I never want you to shave it.

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Speaker 2: I know you hate when I shave it. No, I

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think you think I look weird. I've had this for

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how long A while now? Yes, like over a decade.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Though, your beard was really dark.

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I feel like the one time you shaved it when

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he grew back, it was gray too.

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Speaker 2: Man. Yes, I feel like anytime I shave clean, which

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is never, it seems to get grayer. Now they say

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that's not true, but I feel like it happened.

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Speaker 1: To me, and now I do remember that happening.

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Speaker 2: But and now if I grow it out, dude, I'm

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looking real gray. Yeah, Like it was salt and pepper

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and now it's just salt, very little pepper. Yeah. I

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like it. I think it's fun. It's easy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I used to shave all the time. I used to

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have that We're watching the little chin strap with a

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little the.

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Speaker 1: Whole thing, man, gosh all yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't know what I was thinking. That

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was a lot of work. Tried to shave all the time. Yeah,

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and then keep that little thing. I did it myself.

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I was like a half a razor. I was like

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getting in here, you know, I don't know. I guess

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I was. I was trying harder back then.

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Speaker 1: Huh, you should do one again. No, you're over.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'll dye the beard though. So yeah, it

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was that commercial Your beard is weird man? Yeah, remember

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that for just for men? You know the beard die.

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It was a couple of football players. Yeah, basketball player

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and a football player. I forget who they were, but anyway, Yeah,

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I like the beard. Man. I don't know. It's my

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son likes it. Even when I cut cut it too. Sure,

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I get looks. What do you Why do you got

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to show us your face?

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Speaker 1: Dad?

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Speaker 2: You win with that bad man? No, Nope.

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Speaker 1: Another question that we have is what is your best

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advice for someone who's looking to build their own brand.

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Speaker 2: I would say start with a good logo.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say the same thing, yes.

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Speaker 2: Because me and Rachel are very logo conscious. There are

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a lot of logos out there. Most of them are

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not that good. They really aren't, that's my opinion. I

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see logos all the time.

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Speaker 1: That's what you really think.

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Speaker 2: I will always tell you what I think about your logo.

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I did with Nate. I know, so I think it's

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very important to start with a very good logo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you can build from there, kind of

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like have that be your nucleus to your brand. Like

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if you know what you're doing, you know right your

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brand direction.

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Speaker 2: We're good at logos.

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Speaker 1: We like to do logos because you're.

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Speaker 2: Good at like getting them drawn out, and I'm good

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at figuring out the ideas in collaboration with your ideas,

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and I feel like we come together and come up

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with some really good stuff. But most people aren't like that.

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And now there's like logo generators, which I'm sure sometimes

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they hit the bull's eye.

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Speaker 1: But they're not I feel like we've done a lot

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of logos for people.

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Speaker 2: You know what it is, they're not intelligent enough. They'll

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do a logo. Oh that's crafty. But what I think

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is important about a logo, and I think you would

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agree with this is the second read. When it reads

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a second time, that's a.

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Speaker 1: More interest clever about it, something that you know, maybe

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you don't see it first.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. My first logo ever was twenty five years ago,

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the OCC logo I never had. I never even thought

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about a logo. Yeah, we started that company, named it

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Orange County Choppers, and I had the OCC letters and

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I did the bike, drew it. I got the original

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drawing right on my mother's counter at her house, and

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ever since then, I said, oh, you know, this is

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something I kind of like. And again it's the letters

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in the shape of a motorcycle. And then when it

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was time to do my logo, well you came up

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with the I think we talked about a crown, and

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then you came up with the JR Crown, which is

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a really good, strong logo, which is also pretty square.

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Like logos that are square are good.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the crown is the base, but we

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always surround it with something, whether it be the shield

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or the.

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Speaker 2: Wings or yeah, we usually like this. Yeah, right, the

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logo itself could be kind of trapped by other things.

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But and I say square, I mean dimensionally similar. So

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when you use it in print or T shirts or like,

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it's on your hat right now, in my hat, right,

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see how it works? It works? Well, it's mine have

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the Yeah, yours has the shield around which I like.

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I don't really like it by itself. I like it

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accompanied with.

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Speaker 1: The shield something else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really important because you have to think if

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your logo is this long and this high, you can't

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use it on anything if there's a lot of words

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or you know whatever it.

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Speaker 1: See, if you're going to choose one height over with

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or with over height, you know, I think it should

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be wider than tall, because tall is a little harder

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to utilize. Don't you feel like that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I do. I think you're right. Tall is harder

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to utilize on everything, paper and all all of it.

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But I think it should be kind of more evenly dimensional,

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you know. Yeah, and it should be able to stand

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alone without verbiage esthetically, not that you not that you

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should run it that way, but but you know, you

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could run it that way just as a nice design.

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I think that's big because you got to think about merch.

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You're gonna wear your shirt, Your shirt's gonna have your logo.

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I mean, if you're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Like represent yourself, yeah with that logo.

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Speaker 2: Right, you want to wear your brand, right, And so

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I think it should be something that people like like

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it when they see it, Like the logo, Like this

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logo is very appealing, and it was very versatile. So

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that's another thing. That logo could be on anything, car, airplane, toys, whatever.

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It's just very versatile. You know. Occ logo is the

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same way. So I think versatility in a logo is

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important too, especially if you're doing multiple things. And also

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the logo should speak to what it is that you

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are being an entrepreneur for. So whatever that might be,

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then it should kind of wink at you know, if

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you're a construction company, if you are a bricklayer, if

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you're a you know, a roofer or whatever, you know,

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iron worker, it should wink at that. Like I designed

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my brother Danny's logo right now. He's got a massive

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steel business and he had some company come in and

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do like the overhaul, right, Yeah, and then I didn't

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really like the logo they did for him, So like

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overnight started drawing. I came up with the concept and

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by the next day I had his logo and now

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it's on everything and it looks fantastic and it's Orange

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County Ironworks. So it's O C and then the I

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beam in the middle and it's kind of like they're

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locked into the IBAM and you know it's an iebeam

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because of the web is curved in it, and it's

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perfect for him, you know what I mean. So I

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would say that to me is like, if you're going

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to get into business, then you got to have a

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logo first.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we have another question here, what is the

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current car collection?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do we have? Now?

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Speaker 1: We have my car, Yeah, I love, which is fifty

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five Sunbeam Alpine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic car, British car. Not a very big engine,

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a little four cylinder engine, but super fun to drive. Yeah,

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a true topless car like a roadster.

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Speaker 1: Well, it has a top.

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Speaker 2: But it's considered topless because it's got no windows. Oh okay,

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so if you have no roll up windows, it's considered

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a roadster. Okay, yeah, that's what your car is. You

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have those inserts, but that's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have a top, but it's not really

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It's there like if you need it, but it's not

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really meant to be used. Yeah, it's like an emergency

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only type thing. Yeah. That's a great car. What a

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great color. You know. I've had a lot of cars

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00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,799
through the years, and that car, I think is one

475
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,160
of my favorite cars to drive. It's simple. People love it.

476
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,880
It's gorgeous, especially out in the sun. It's this powder

477
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,759
blue with like a tan interior. And that that's a

478
00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:01,960
good one. We have the I have the nineteen fourteen

479
00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:05,960
Cadillac Speedster, which is pretty killer, which I should really

480
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,759
bring that here because it would look would look good

481
00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:08,480
the showroom.

482
00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: That one's a fun one to ride in because it's opposite.

483
00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:13,839
Driver's side is on the right, so when you're in

484
00:23:13,839 --> 00:23:15,519
the passenger seat and you're going down the road and

485
00:23:15,559 --> 00:23:17,480
cars are was in past you, it's a little sketch.

486
00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:21,759
Speaker 2: It's sketchy for any passenger because you do feel like

487
00:23:21,799 --> 00:23:24,599
you're in the wrong name, going the wrong way, you know.

488
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,400
And then I have the Camaro that we built on

489
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,559
the show. And that thing is like, got like no

490
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,039
miles on it and is fast. I mean, that's a

491
00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:39,640
fast car. You know. We supercharged it and everything, added

492
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,359
all those aluminum plates flat black. That thing's fantastic. And

493
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,119
then we have my first Mercedes. Yeah, two thousand and six.

494
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,759
What is it? It is SL fifty five AMG with

495
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:55,880
a Rentech kit.

496
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: Yes, that's fast, fast.

497
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,039
Speaker 2: Six hundred and fifty horse you know today's standards like

498
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,759
twelve hundred horses fast. But that car is like it

499
00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:06,839
is a lightning bolt.

500
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

501
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,599
Speaker 2: Man, it is nice. And that's got the hard top convertible,

502
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,440
which is fun. And it's only got like forty miles

503
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,039
on it, which is nice, you know. And then what else?

504
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,119
I think that's really it. I mean I've had so

505
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,279
many cars through the years, bought and sold.

506
00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: What else do we have? I feel like there's more?

507
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: No, No, Because I sold the Woody Wagon. Yeah, just

508
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,640
came like a forty six Woody Wag forty six Woody

509
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,519
Mercury Wagon, which was a pretty cool car, but it

510
00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:38,319
needed a lot of work and I just wasn't getting

511
00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:38,559
to it.

512
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,079
Speaker 1: I know, it just sat for years.

513
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: It has a good home now. Yeah, that's it. But

514
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,160
I've had great cars. I had a sixty sixty seven Mustang.

515
00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: Fastbag floating around out there somewhere.

516
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, our thing. We did get a thing, yeah,

517
00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:58,920
the Volkswagen thing. Yeah, yeah, I think that's it. Joe's

518
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,319
the powder Coders. Yeah, so we own a thing, a thing.

519
00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:05,000
We thought that'd be a fun island car. Yeah, but

520
00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:06,960
we really haven't gotten there yet with it.

521
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,559
Speaker 1: Everything's still up in you. We should bring one of

522
00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:10,400
the cars down here.

523
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: We should bring your car, I think, yeah, because then

524
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,119
we could drive it all summer. That would be super fun.

525
00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:18,200
Then I had a four GT I bought brand new

526
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,880
in two thousand and five. That was pretty fantastic. Boy,

527
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,640
I wish I would have kept that car. Yeah, that

528
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,880
one was the heartbreaker, you know. Yeah, that was a

529
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:28,440
cool car.

530
00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: That was.

531
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: And a lot of Hudson's a lot of rare cars.

532
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,759
I've had so many boat tails and everything else, you know.

533
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,720
H Yeah. I used to collect cars like I do

534
00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:39,759
signs now, Oh.

535
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,559
Speaker 1: My gosh, until we ran out of room.

536
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:43,599
Speaker 2: We ran out of room, and then they were just

537
00:25:43,799 --> 00:25:45,240
like cars are a lot bad.

538
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: They are, especially when you have like a collection of

539
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,519
them and you're not driving them all the time, you know.

540
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know they're old. All the ones I

541
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,880
had were from the thirties, which I just gravitated towards

542
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,039
that Art Deco styling on everything.

543
00:25:59,279 --> 00:25:59,559
Speaker 1: Yep.

544
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: So I didn't have many muscle cars, which are more

545
00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:04,880
modern and easier to take care of. The Thirties cars

546
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,680
are antiquated with you know, sometimes of upkeep.

547
00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: For sure, there are a lot of upkeep drive, but

548
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:11,599
you know.

549
00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:14,599
Speaker 2: They are fun to drive, but they're antiquated, you know,

550
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,519
and they don't go that fast, and they can't get

551
00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:19,000
out of their own way, and they smell like gas,

552
00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:21,920
and the batteries are always dead on them quite often

553
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,880
they're six volt. And then over time, I just I'm glad.

554
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,200
I just collect signs more. I like having a few cars,

555
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,680
but not like that. It's a it's an upkeep, you know,

556
00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:34,759
it's something you always got to keep up with. And

557
00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:38,160
so but I'm always looking at them. I always look

558
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,440
at those thirties cars and see what's out there. And

559
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:44,160
they've come down in price quite a bit. Yeah, I

560
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,480
just saw a thirty seven gram. It was a four door,

561
00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:49,880
but it's a real rare car. It's supercharged. They're like

562
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000
thirteen grand for it, and they probably take less. Yeah. Man,

563
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,359
And it's a good looking car and very rare. Yeah,

564
00:26:56,599 --> 00:26:59,440
but you never see them, so you never know. You know,

565
00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:02,799
you've never stood next to one. But they're a handsome car. Yeah,

566
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,000
thirty seven gram supercharged. But that would be better in

567
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,759
like a coop configure it. I don't even know if

568
00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:09,440
they made it in a coup, but if they did,

569
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,039
it'd be better.

570
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: How is it right now?

571
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: It's a four door. Yeah, it's a big four door

572
00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:15,519
with a big bumped out trunk.

573
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: But is that the one that you showed me the

574
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,519
other day?

575
00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:21,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeap, the blue one. Yeah. I just saw

576
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:24,319
a Curtis trailer. You know, I know we had that

577
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:27,480
aluminum trailer here, but I just saw a Curtis nineteen

578
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:32,960
forty six Curtis trailer, you know, aluminum like air like

579
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,440
an airstream. Oh yeah, and that car was I mean

580
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,960
that that thing's cool and that was cheap too. It's

581
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:39,720
still available.

582
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: Thirty five a Hudson truck.

583
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 2: I know, we do.

584
00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:46,079
Speaker 1: We have a six years to find one.

585
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: We did go and look at one. It's like a

586
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,279
whole thing.

587
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: It was