Speaker 1: And guess what, you know, it's one of those days.
Speaker 1: It's a Wednesday, not my usual days as I used
Speaker 1: to broadcast, right, I used to do it on Tuesdays,
Speaker 1: Thursdays and Saturdays, So no more Saturday show. It is
Speaker 1: five days a week, and I do appreciate you for
Speaker 1: tuning in, no matter who you are, where you are,
Speaker 1: what time it is, of course it would be five
Speaker 1: pm on the East coast or west coast, excuse me
Speaker 1: of that same land mass I've already described, and God
Speaker 1: knows what time it is wherever the hell you are,
Speaker 1: and however you're listening, But either way you're appreciated.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: So moving forward, you know, I take a look at
Speaker 1: the news speeds every time before I go on my show,
Speaker 1: no matter what time of day it is, no matter
Speaker 1: what's subject I'm going to talk about, I look at
Speaker 1: the news feeds, usually in disgust, and do that, right.
Speaker 1: I also take a listen to my preparation music. I've
Speaker 1: got a little ritual before I do this. But the
Speaker 1: thing is, you know today what happened, well, Jay, we
Speaker 1: have the release of those Sailors, which I told you
Speaker 1: would happen precisely as it did.
Speaker 2: Yesterday that you know, this whole.
Speaker 1: Alarm over Iran has some of our sailors, and I
Speaker 1: told you these guys very likely just kind of got lost,
Speaker 1: and therefore we're taken most properly.
Speaker 2: Into custody and then would be released to us quickly.
Speaker 1: Told you yesterday that was the first time that I
Speaker 1: actually believed something coming from a White House spokesperson in
Speaker 1: a very very long time.
Speaker 2: But then again, maybe I'm just a touch cynical.
Speaker 1: See the show last night, Second Hour, want to hear
Speaker 1: how cynical I am about these parties and the way
Speaker 1: they speak.
Speaker 2: Anyway back to.
Speaker 1: It, you know, there really wasn't much else outside of
Speaker 1: the parade of trump Ism, and god knows what else
Speaker 1: you know being spread around. Did the South Carolina governor
Speaker 1: go too far and calling out somebody who is besmirching
Speaker 1: they're already quite smeared party, etc.
Speaker 2: Etc.
Speaker 1: I've got no use for either side of the alleged
Speaker 1: two party system, as.
Speaker 2: You might be well aware.
Speaker 1: But hey, it is entertainment after all, and it makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense that a reality star is still
Speaker 1: polling quite high.
Speaker 2: Although being threatened by Ted.
Speaker 3: Cruz, who now has a birth issue of his own.
Speaker 2: Etc. Etc.
Speaker 3: Right, Ted Cruz to me is just one of these guys.
Speaker 1: And I hate to do this, but because it sounds judgmental,
Speaker 1: you know, he just he seems muppet like to me.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's just me.
Speaker 1: And maybe then again, one of those things I blurted
Speaker 1: out while I was sitting there watching the television feed,
Speaker 1: if you will, with my son earlier today, was a
Speaker 1: year and a half old and only speaks in odd
Speaker 1: collections of noises at this point. But you know, I
Speaker 1: do make comments to him quite often when I'm not
Speaker 1: on the air, and one of them was, you know,
Speaker 1: just blurted it out off the top of my head.
Speaker 1: Hillary is probably slipping in the poles, you know, by design,
Speaker 1: because well, after all, you know, she is, as I've
Speaker 1: said many times, probably one of the most despicable human
Speaker 1: beings that there is in general, has left a bad
Speaker 1: taste in so many people's mouths. I don't think she's
Speaker 1: ill anyway, no matter how much they show we're in
Speaker 1: front of us, But for Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 2: To be challenging you, what does that say?
Speaker 1: And after all, I think one thing she could do
Speaker 1: to improve her chances, although I don't really want to
Speaker 1: give her advice is maybe adjust that very very pompous
Speaker 1: looking hairdo.
Speaker 2: That might help a little bit.
Speaker 1: But hey, and that is the type of world we
Speaker 1: live in at this point, because after all, the actual
Speaker 1: substance of the individuals that are being presented to you
Speaker 1: for the upcoming selection is really irrelevant, much.
Speaker 3: As the office has become.
Speaker 1: And much as the political system has become in general. Anyway,
Speaker 1: enough of that, enough of the seriousness. I want to
Speaker 1: have a good time tonight, and I brought on somebody
Speaker 1: who I know I'm going to have a good time with.
Speaker 1: I did last time we did this, and every time
Speaker 1: I have a conversation with this guy or take a
Speaker 1: listen to his show, no matter what he's talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, I do actually enjoy it. It's one of
Speaker 1: those things where we can get some information a little
Speaker 1: bit of entertainment as well. And you know, also a
Speaker 1: smart guy who doesn't stand on all sorts of you know,
Speaker 1: pomp circumstance in order to present you information and things
Speaker 1: like that. So somebody I do appreciate Ed Opperman, who
Speaker 1: is hard to describe as a guest, by the way,
Speaker 1: because after all, he's a private investigator, a radio host.
Speaker 1: He's done some writing now and then. Just really an interesting,
Speaker 1: fascinating guy who I do have an affinity for. Also
Speaker 1: because I don't know, I get this feeling than him
Speaker 1: and I might have actually wandered through some of the
Speaker 1: same streets at certain points in time, and I know
Speaker 1: we've listened to some of the same radio stations and
Speaker 1: things like that. And oddly enough, although he may not
Speaker 1: agree with me at all politically, some of his sensibilities
Speaker 1: do converge with mine on occasion. So Ed Opperman, the
Speaker 1: guy who I have a difficulty describing, who you can
Speaker 1: find at the Oppermanreport dot Com I believe is the
Speaker 1: main place where.
Speaker 3: We can go and get your stuff.
Speaker 1: But you're also hurt on speaker and actually, tonight, I
Speaker 1: think this dream is going out over speaker and iHeartRadio
Speaker 1: and stuff as we speak, ed, how are you feeling tonight?
Speaker 1: And sorry I rambled for so many minutes. No, I
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, man, I liked a little rift there.
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. And I agree with you, man, you know,
Speaker 3: I totally enjoy I just had you on the show
Speaker 3: last week. We taked an hour. I think I wanted
Speaker 3: to do like an hour and a half or two hours,
Speaker 3: but I had to pick up my kid, had a
Speaker 3: little emergency. I had to cut it short. But it
Speaker 3: went so fast, you know, so enjoyable, great information, and
Speaker 3: just like you said, if that seemed like it said
Speaker 3: the East Coast banter, you know, like it's nice when
Speaker 3: you're running to somebody from the Northeast, they kind of
Speaker 3: gets your vibe and has that same kind of a
Speaker 3: rhythm going.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah it is.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a good thing and it's a bad thing,
Speaker 1: because I'll tell you one I'll tell you one very
Speaker 1: interesting thing about that that always gets me is whenever
Speaker 1: I leave the Northeast for a little while and then
Speaker 1: go back to it, I have to get myself on
Speaker 1: the round running again because there's sort of a high
Speaker 1: tension atmosphere to the Northeast. At the same time, though
Speaker 1: you have the most diverse culture, you know, some of
Speaker 1: the greasiest stuff possible. You know, not just the food,
Speaker 1: by the way, but some of the greasiest stuff I
Speaker 1: mean emotionally politically. I mean, you know, when people started
Speaker 1: talking nationally about oh, my Jersey politics is so dirty,
Speaker 1: I went, yeah, because it's Jersey politics stupid.
Speaker 2: But you know, and New York is.
Speaker 1: And that's that's fascinating too, because you notice that was
Speaker 1: Ted Cruz's big counter today to to the Donald, right,
Speaker 1: is well, he's a New York guy, you know, which
Speaker 1: is supposed to be a really derogatory thing, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, well, yeah, he's a New York guy.
Speaker 1: It is derogatory, But really, is it any different than
Speaker 1: what's actually going on and the rest of the nation,
Speaker 1: except maybe we talk a little faster, maybe the city's
Speaker 1: a little dirtier and people don't notice, maybe things are
Speaker 1: a little worse under the skin. But in truth, it's
Speaker 1: also a more evolved and mature city than you find
Speaker 1: in most of the United States, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: So what are you talking about, Sed Cruz?
Speaker 3: Right, But that'll play good in Iowa and New Hampshire
Speaker 3: and North Carolina, you know, because because when it's like
Speaker 3: what I call it the dog whistle, you know, if
Speaker 3: he says new York, that practically means New York jew
Speaker 3: some of those people down there, you know, when he's
Speaker 3: tu me that New York attitude and that New York corruption,
Speaker 3: you know, New York arrogance, you know, Donald Trump, so
Speaker 3: I guess it'll play big down there.
Speaker 1: And that's That's the funny thing about Trump too, is
Speaker 1: that one thing he does embody certainly is that East
Speaker 1: Coast kind of attitude, you know, because I'm gonna be bombastic.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm gonna spit out whatever I want
Speaker 1: to spit out, and you can.
Speaker 2: Deal with it, you know.
Speaker 1: And I got to give it to him for that,
Speaker 1: even though I think he's a clown and absolutely and legitimate,
Speaker 1: you know, candidate to hold any sort of office, and
Speaker 1: I certainly don't want this guy representing me anywhere.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Sorry, maybe I'm still a little angry because I lived
Speaker 1: near the uh you know, the the demolition zone that
Speaker 1: was Atlantic City and know about his business and the
Speaker 1: way things are conducted, and you know, but you can
Speaker 1: see how uh you sort you sort of see how
Speaker 1: that's abrasive to that to those areas of the country
Speaker 1: where that is a dog whistle that does scream, you know,
Speaker 1: uh jew and and also scary guy and also uh
Speaker 1: you know, from the most dangerous, violent, crazy area possible,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Too.
Speaker 3: Right, Ope, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Sure if ed can hear me, But sorry about that,
Speaker 1: and I did go for a minute there and maybe
Speaker 1: I muted or something. Oh well, okay, But the thing
Speaker 1: about it is that it becomes a derogatory of characterization
Speaker 1: in some parts of the country. Funny you mentioned North Carolina,
Speaker 1: because that's where I'm sitting quite unfortunately at the moment.
Speaker 1: But I do have a long enough memory to know
Speaker 1: exactly what happens when Donald Trump's business acumen is applied
Speaker 1: to a local community, so far as Atlantic City goes.
Speaker 3: You know, hey, Chuck, have you been to one of
Speaker 3: these Trump rallies?
Speaker 2: Physically?
Speaker 3: No, you gotta do it, Okay, I went down. I've
Speaker 3: covered a couple of Bernie rallies, and as a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, I'm gonna have Bernie on my show. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get twenty minutes with Bernie Sanders and he's gonna
Speaker 3: be on my show. I'm gonna do an interview with them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know, I'm really stoked. We just worked on this yesterday.
Speaker 3: But I've been to a couple of Bernie rallies. I've
Speaker 3: been to three of them, and I've been to one
Speaker 3: Trump rally here in Vegas. And the Trump rally is
Speaker 3: they don't quite describe it on TV. The way it
Speaker 3: really is. These are really really old people, a lot
Speaker 3: of people with disabilities, a lot of people that are
Speaker 3: shut ins. When you walk in there, you get a
Speaker 3: very nervous feeling right away. And the rally is not
Speaker 3: run by campaign staff like you would have at a
Speaker 3: regular rally. It's run by Trump's New York City security
Speaker 3: guys that he brought with him from New York City.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: You can spot these guys and they run the whole thing,
Speaker 3: and it's like a that's like how he'll run the
Speaker 3: country with using the cops, using cops and thugs and
Speaker 3: goons to control us. Yeah, I know, man, and I
Speaker 3: don't I figure right now? Trump has no respect for
Speaker 3: that crowd that shows up at his rallies, okay, because
Speaker 3: I've known this guy for for a long long time
Speaker 3: from coming from New York, you know, and he has
Speaker 3: no respect for the kind of to him, they're all
Speaker 3: losers when he looks out at that audience, So he
Speaker 3: has no respect for them at all.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the amazing thing to me, really is that
Speaker 1: so many people are gravitating to him because you know,
Speaker 1: they think he's speaking from their point of view, you know,
Speaker 1: and and I don't know how how crazy that it is,
Speaker 1: you know, like how you can even begin to make
Speaker 1: that leap that that this is a guy who could
Speaker 1: represent anybody else sitting in that audience, because he's on
Speaker 1: a totally different level.
Speaker 2: He always has been.
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to talk about an elitist, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's again a little more greasy than your usual elitist.
Speaker 1: I want to talk more about Bernie Sanders though, by
Speaker 1: the way, before I forget, but finishing up on Trump,
Speaker 1: I mean this guy personality wise. I'm not saying appearance wise,
Speaker 1: and I'm not even gonna pick.
Speaker 2: On his hairdoob.
Speaker 1: But the thing is just looking at him and just
Speaker 1: watching the way that he's behaved over the years. He's
Speaker 1: an elitist, but with kind of a kind of a
Speaker 1: greasy bent to him.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 3: And you know, people from New York, we know about
Speaker 3: Trump University, which was a total con game. It was
Speaker 3: a total scam where he sets up a telet marketing
Speaker 3: company basically he calls a Trump University, and a couple
Speaker 3: of these people got scammed at a thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: to become students. Of Trump University, and every time they
Speaker 3: bought a course, all they got was more phone calls.
Speaker 3: And it's telemarketers to get them to buy more courses.
Speaker 3: Yeah right. It was shut down by the New York
Speaker 3: State Attorney General because it was a scam. You can't
Speaker 3: just you can't start Chuck O'Kelly University and start a college.
Speaker 3: You gotta have some background, get a licensing and stuff that. Okay,
Speaker 3: you can't start Chuck ocelly Medical Center. You know, I'm
Speaker 3: a doctor now because I incorporated Chuck O'Kelly Medical Center.
Speaker 3: You know, he just can't do that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: But this guy does it and nobody calls him on it. Then,
Speaker 3: when they had that thing going on, remember they missed
Speaker 3: you at Mississippi University where the guy was doing the
Speaker 3: hunger strike. Yeah, Trump comes out and he goes on TV.
Speaker 3: He goes, if I was president of that university, then
Speaker 3: I would put a stop to that right away. That's
Speaker 3: how I would run a university. He did running a university,
Speaker 3: but nobody calls him on it. He ran a university.
Speaker 3: It was shutdown because it was a scam, but he
Speaker 3: got falls the size of a can come. This guy
Speaker 3: he's a constantly con man who gets up there.
Speaker 2: He has no shame.
Speaker 3: He repeats it over and over and over again like
Speaker 3: a peachy barnum. He knows he's a sucker born every
Speaker 3: minute and he's got he's got this country. And to
Speaker 3: promise him, oh my thoughts getting they're coming in the room,
Speaker 3: he had to tie me down, tell me to calm down.
Speaker 2: It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 3: We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll dial it back just a little.
Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, you know, two funny things that
Speaker 1: I noticed, by the way, just this evening, I think
Speaker 1: it was Aaron Burnett had him on a phone conversation
Speaker 1: where they were going over some of the stuff going on,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and he turns around in his
Speaker 1: you know, Trump like fashion and says, how many times
Speaker 1: do I got to repeat myself?
Speaker 2: I've already said it twice?
Speaker 1: And uh, and she just flipped back at him real quick,
Speaker 1: well three times would probably work, you know, And I went, wow,
Speaker 1: that was that was pretty funny, because that that's the
Speaker 1: most backhanded little bit of sarcasm I've seen a mainstream
Speaker 1: reporter give him in a while. And interestingly enough, when
Speaker 1: he starts talking about business and how well I run
Speaker 1: a business and all these other things. You know, somebody
Speaker 1: did remind him of his bankruptcies during one of the debates,
Speaker 1: remember that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even that's a softball because look at his
Speaker 3: connections to the convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, because it.
Speaker 3: Really irks me. It really does bug me because I
Speaker 3: got a kid about the same age as one of
Speaker 3: his victims. You know, this girl, Virginia Roberts, you know,
Speaker 3: she worked for Trump when she was picked up by
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Empstein's pimp who was brought to Epstein's. How she
Speaker 3: was inlested by Epstein, passed around to people at Prince
Speaker 3: Andrew and stuff like that. She worked for Trump. A
Speaker 3: lot of this activity going on with this girl was
Speaker 3: being molested in these other girls, up the three girls
Speaker 3: a day, according to this guy's butler, were being molested
Speaker 3: at Jeffrey Epstein's Palm Beach home, but a lot of
Speaker 3: it went on at mar A Lago. Prince Andrew and Epstein.
Speaker 3: These guys would hang out down at Mari Lanco, which is,
Speaker 3: by the way, is Trump's home when he's down in Florida.
Speaker 3: That's where he lives in this resort. So and it
Speaker 3: a press does not touch that. And it blows my
Speaker 3: mind because here you got all these candidates. You got
Speaker 3: Clinton involved in it, scannal, he got Jeff Bush involved
Speaker 3: in a scandal. He got Trump involved in a scandal.
Speaker 3: But nobody talks about it but Trump. So in your face,
Speaker 3: the consummate, khan Man, he'll stand up there and say
Speaker 3: about the Ben Carson. Oh, Ben Carson, he said he
Speaker 3: stabbed somebody. He says, that's a that's a psychopath and
Speaker 3: that's incurable. It's like a child molester. It can't be cured.
Speaker 3: He brings it up, he brings it up, and he
Speaker 3: gets away with it.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, what's amazing to me too, is that is
Speaker 1: that this is you know, I realize that it's tailor
Speaker 1: made for the TV people, right because they've been slipping
Speaker 1: in the ratings. They couldn't sell you know, I still
Speaker 1: contend we're looking at a Bush candidacy that's going to
Speaker 1: be resurrected, but they couldn't sell that. That would not
Speaker 1: get them TV ratings. Okay, there's no way that you know,
Speaker 1: if they just berated Bush and Hillary excuse me, Hillary
Speaker 1: in front of us all the time. Nobody would want
Speaker 1: to watch. I mean, nobody wants to stare at yet
Speaker 1: another Bush. And you know, and Hillary's put him okay
Speaker 1: already all day long. Nobody wants to look at that anymore.
Speaker 1: It's not going to bring in the ratings. But this Trump,
Speaker 1: with all the things he says, which nobody calls him
Speaker 1: on any of it. Every five seconds he says something
Speaker 1: that somebody should be calling him on, like excuse me,
Speaker 1: but that's not exactly the way you should conduct yourself
Speaker 1: if you're seeking to be president. Remember there used to
Speaker 1: be that standard of you know, you had to conduct
Speaker 1: yourself a certain way, you use the incorrect terminology, and
Speaker 1: people would jump on you regarding anything right. And this
Speaker 1: guy is completely counterintuitive to all of that, and nobody
Speaker 1: calls him on any of it. Nobody calls him on
Speaker 1: his past, Nobody calls him on you know, gee, you know,
Speaker 1: I see morality problems with people and women. This guy
Speaker 1: was philandering on his wife, and you know, I've heard
Speaker 1: lots of other things that I can't verify about the guy.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, you and I both know there
Speaker 1: is as puny of stuff that could be dug up.
Speaker 1: If there was a reporter that really wanted to crucify
Speaker 1: this guy in the press, and nobody's doing.
Speaker 3: It, okay, just the fact that he had three marriages alone,
Speaker 3: and these three failed marriages. And by the way, just
Speaker 3: to give you an idea of how far back I
Speaker 3: go with Trump. When he was cheating with Marla Maples
Speaker 3: against Evonna Trump and the press first found out about it,
Speaker 3: we were out one night, a sad dated a lot
Speaker 3: of flight attendants at the time, and we're out one
Speaker 3: night and they said to me, he says, you never
Speaker 3: believe who was at our house, hiding at our apartment
Speaker 3: in Manhattan. And I said, oh, they said, Marla Maples.
Speaker 3: Marla Maples showed up in the middle of the night
Speaker 3: with a garbage bag full of her clothes and she's
Speaker 3: hiding out that our apartment. She's hiding from the paparazzi.
Speaker 3: So I said, did I tell the story before? No,
Speaker 3: I never heard this before.
Speaker 2: Good, So I.
Speaker 3: Said, purely as a joke, I said, well, let's tap
Speaker 3: the phones and we could sell it to the National Inquiry. Okay.
Speaker 3: So we never tapped the phones, but as a joke.
Speaker 3: So I told the joke later on to some guys
Speaker 3: who were involved with Trump, one of his private investigators
Speaker 3: and stuff. And I told him this joke, and the
Speaker 3: joke must have got back to Trump, okay, because I'm
Speaker 3: convinced that he had a whole file put together on
Speaker 3: me because I ran into him at the US Open
Speaker 3: one time okay years later too, by the way, and
Speaker 3: he was we were about a rocks throw away from
Speaker 3: each other, but this guy stood up facing away for
Speaker 3: the tennis court staring at me for about a good
Speaker 3: half hour, go blowing daggers at me. After this whole
Speaker 3: scene there at the US Open also too. You know,
Speaker 3: I sold my condo in New York to one of
Speaker 3: Trump's bodyguards. So it's a small world. It's a very
Speaker 3: small world. And I've had a lot of contact with
Speaker 3: these characters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And you know, and he does employ a
Speaker 1: lot of guys that are that are private investigators and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I remember being amazed at that, Remember
Speaker 1: when when he was really trying to get to get
Speaker 1: himself deep into the world of boxing, Right, I knew
Speaker 1: people that worked, you know, in that kind of business,
Speaker 1: in promotion, in uh, you know, it's what would you
Speaker 1: call it at this point, like production, except for live
Speaker 1: events things like that, live event planners and promoters. You know,
Speaker 1: before the days of the internet, it was a little different, right,
Speaker 1: And this guy had a habit of doing that, you know,
Speaker 1: this intimidating stare, which to me woke laughter, you know,
Speaker 1: because he looked like a I don't know how to
Speaker 1: describe it, except maybe like a six month old baby
Speaker 1: with gas. As he started getting older, when he would
Speaker 1: give you this evil eye, like the Trump evil eye that.
Speaker 3: Used to call it all it well back in those
Speaker 3: days when when when Tyson was doing all the fights
Speaker 3: at the Trump properties in the Atlantic City, Tyson hired
Speaker 3: Bo Deedle as his head of security and Bodel had
Speaker 3: a five hundred thousand a year contract doing Mike Tyson security.
Speaker 3: Because I used to hang out with Bo back in
Speaker 3: those days. Every single night at the Durro Land. We
Speaker 3: would drink up until seven am.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: And I love Bo Needle by the way, because here's
Speaker 1: another guy, but see bows a little different because when
Speaker 1: he speaks, he doesn't care about what anybody hears or
Speaker 1: what anybody you know what I mean. When he decides
Speaker 1: to make a statement, he makes a statement. I love
Speaker 1: that guy, by the way. Just so you know, you
Speaker 1: know what, I love.
Speaker 3: Him too, and he is politically hung by the balls.
Speaker 3: You have no idea that could he's a billionaire now,
Speaker 3: you know, as a police commissioner when he's a p
Speaker 3: I firm. So and I got a picture of me
Speaker 3: and Bow on my wall. Uh but so Bo had
Speaker 3: the contract to do Mike Times and Security.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: And the rumor going around, and it's even in one
Speaker 3: of the books too, that Trump was sleeping with the
Speaker 3: tyson's wife. Yeah, yeah, that what's going on? Man? No
Speaker 3: one talks about that guy's running for president.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, he's gonna do more for women, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, than than than Hillary ever, could you.
Speaker 3: Know, Chersey, that's why people the Miss t USA pageant
Speaker 3: had the Miss USA pageant and had it all moved
Speaker 3: down to Trump properties. I wonder what's going on with that,
Speaker 3: because you know what, there's an article too with this
Speaker 3: guy who hung out with Trump for a few months
Speaker 3: and when he was just about to get divorced from
Speaker 3: Marla Maples, and Marla was making comments like, oh, you
Speaker 3: should buy another pageant. That's right up your alley. As
Speaker 3: you know, the rumors about the Plaza hotel in New
Speaker 3: York City. You can get a membership and his floors
Speaker 3: on there. All kind of fun stuff is going on.
Speaker 3: So you know, this has all been going on for
Speaker 3: years and years and years with Trump. You know, this
Speaker 3: character makes me sick the tato shoot. No, absolutely, And
Speaker 3: I mean coming from that and.
Speaker 1: Knowing that stuff, and like I said, I wasn't as
Speaker 1: close to some of these things as you were, but
Speaker 1: I saw the fallout of it.
Speaker 2: You know, I knew some of the people.
Speaker 1: That made their living working in Atlantic City, and even
Speaker 1: with the protection of the alleged unions and everything else,
Speaker 1: they still got screwed over. Every time, you know, Trump
Speaker 1: made a move. It seemed like in one way or another,
Speaker 1: they would shuffle these guys, push them out, do all
Speaker 1: kinds of weird things to them.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, his employees, the people that you know are
Speaker 1: the majority of those. He would wind up representing those
Speaker 1: type of people, real blue collar human beings always got
Speaker 1: screwed in the shuffle every time this guy made a move.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's just amazing to me that anybody in
Speaker 1: America took this guy seriously.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he always stiffed the contractors. Okay, that that's those
Speaker 3: are well known stories, and he stiffed those contractors and
Speaker 3: all those workers. But he stuck. He stuck it to
Speaker 3: the chunk behind guys on Wall Street. One time he
Speaker 3: bought a property and he got them to sign a
Speaker 3: personal note that he didn't he didn't they didn't have
Speaker 3: a lean against the property. And then he just said,
Speaker 3: I'm not paying it. We got to settle. I'm not
Speaker 3: paying it. You don't have you don't have a lean
Speaker 3: on me, you know, take me to court. And they
Speaker 3: settled on pennies on the dollars. Uh. There was another
Speaker 3: thing too, Uh, But.
Speaker 1: That was part of his normal business practice to turn
Speaker 1: around and settle, you know, for pennies later after stiffing
Speaker 1: somebody on a bill.
Speaker 3: I mean, and we're not speaking out of school here.
Speaker 1: There is a a huge trail of evidence that anybody
Speaker 1: can find if they want right now to you know,
Speaker 1: follow through on all that stuff. That's actually part of
Speaker 1: his normal business practices, right.
Speaker 3: And they even brag about it. And in one of
Speaker 3: their defenses, they had a Condo U two kind of
Speaker 3: scam going on where they were people were investing money,
Speaker 3: and part of their defense in the loss it was, well,
Speaker 3: anybody that's done business with us. No, this is how
Speaker 3: we operate. I look at the daughter Tulavaka was involved
Speaker 3: in that. Yeah, that's what her thing was. Anybody's done
Speaker 3: it was business with us. No, this is that we
Speaker 3: do it. Yeah, and that that's where I got to
Speaker 3: give it to him.
Speaker 1: Is at the very least, you know, he's not making
Speaker 1: bones about it, you know, like I said, it's kind
Speaker 1: of interesting because it matches with the attitude of like
Speaker 1: I said, Roger Stone, who was on my show, right,
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't make any bones about who he is.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, yeah, that's right on a hashet man.
Speaker 3: So what of it?
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, okay, great, you know, at least
Speaker 1: you're being honest.
Speaker 2: But on another level, Sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm gonna blow any chance I'll ever have
Speaker 3: of getting Rogers thrown on my show.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: But did you get a chance to ask him about
Speaker 3: his connections with Al Sharpton?
Speaker 2: No? I did not.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because you know he was the campaign manager
Speaker 3: when Al Sharpton was running for president. Oh wow, I
Speaker 3: was not aware of that. Really. Yeah. There's a great
Speaker 3: series of articles in the Village Voice, and I've tried
Speaker 3: to get all of these reporters on my show. I
Speaker 3: can't get one of them to come on and talk
Speaker 3: about this. And it's called Al Sharpton and the GOP.
Speaker 3: And he was totally in the bed with the GOP.
Speaker 3: He even got Martin Luther King's widow, Correta Scott King,
Speaker 3: to George Bush's box at the inauguration.
Speaker 2: He broke Wait a minute, he's responsible for that.
Speaker 3: He broke that deal as part of a payoff with
Speaker 3: Al the motto it's not fresh on my mind. And plus,
Speaker 3: you know the whole thing about him being an FBI asset,
Speaker 3: of working for the FBI, Well, yeah.
Speaker 1: I've heard all about that, and uh again, don't don't
Speaker 1: find it unbelievable.
Speaker 2: He's never gonna cop to that, you know, oh directly.
Speaker 3: It's it's, it's, it's in the it's there's a great
Speaker 3: series of an expos in the Smokinggun dot com. Okay
Speaker 3: about it's in FBI documents and court cases that he
Speaker 3: was the source going around wiretapping people, that he had
Speaker 3: a phone in his apartment that was a red phone
Speaker 3: that when it picked up, the FBI heard it live
Speaker 3: for every conversation on that phone that he was walking
Speaker 3: around with his briefcase with the tape recorder. In the briefcase,
Speaker 3: I'm convinced that I'm on those tapes because I knew
Speaker 3: I'll show up in very well from the time I
Speaker 3: was seventeen years old until I was about I guess
Speaker 3: about twenty twenty one, twenty two in the PI business.
Speaker 3: But how Sharpton was an FBI asset working for the FBI.
Speaker 3: It's documented, there's no doubt about it. He made cases
Speaker 3: against organized crime in New York City.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sharpton was informing on all sorts of OC guys,
Speaker 1: you know, for a long time. There was a joke
Speaker 1: going around last year where we were describing him by
Speaker 1: his informant number on air a lot.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: I was also thrown in the commentary that nowadays he
Speaker 1: looks a little strange on TV, because you know, I
Speaker 1: remember Al Sharpton with the track suits, you know, and
Speaker 1: going around, you know, like we're talking Crown Heights, We're
Speaker 1: talking Hey, Tawana Brawl.
Speaker 2: You remember that name, you know.
Speaker 1: Back in those days, right, this guy was a totally
Speaker 1: different character than you see now on MSNBC.
Speaker 3: Vegan. Now he's a vegan, so he lost a lot
Speaker 3: of weight. Yeah, but you know, also to I interviewed
Speaker 3: the woman. I forgot her name off the top of
Speaker 3: my head right now, but who was raped by the
Speaker 3: Godfather's soul, James Brown. And she has no love lost
Speaker 3: for alf Sharpton because they would be buddies, those two.
Speaker 3: And her whole story is, uh, you know, James Brown's
Speaker 3: downfall on all that PCP coincided with visits with Sharpton,
Speaker 3: and so that's that's a Jackie Hollander is her name,
Speaker 3: great guest man and uh, yeah, no.
Speaker 1: I forgot about you know, I forgot about her because
Speaker 1: you know, since since James is gone, you know, it's
Speaker 1: sort of like I've sort of let that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff out of my head.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1: Uh. I remember the days when when he was fighting
Speaker 1: with Innis what's his name on uh Morton Downey Junior's
Speaker 1: TV show. Remember that they got into that shoving match
Speaker 1: and he uh it was a Roy Innis right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, of course because that was filmed in New Jersey,
Speaker 1: uh at the time, you know, comes out of the
Speaker 1: New York area. Everybody forgets about Morton Downey Junior nowadays,
Speaker 1: But believe me, it was like Jerry Springer long before
Speaker 1: Jerry Springer, and you had an angry host on top
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: You know. That's the best way I could have could
Speaker 2: describe it.
Speaker 3: To somebody who's never heard of Morton Downey Junior before
Speaker 3: but probably won't remember Ron Paul.
Speaker 1: Yes, Ron Paul was on the was on the Morton
Speaker 1: Downey Junior Show nowization Yeah, yeah, for god, what year
Speaker 1: was that eighty eight? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Those are the days, man. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of interesting stuff came out of
Speaker 1: New York and the New York area back then, and
Speaker 1: Sharpton was definitely one of those characters of interest. I
Speaker 1: was not aware that Roger Stone had any connection to
Speaker 1: Sharpton though.
Speaker 2: I that totally missed me.
Speaker 3: I had not put two and two together either until
Speaker 3: one night someone grabbed me and says, ed, you realize
Speaker 3: that's the same Roger Stone, don't you? And then I said,
Speaker 3: then I looked into it that I says, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: the same guy. He's Trump's buddy.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: They got pictures name of one of the Trump's rally.
Speaker 3: He's got the black guy down on the ground, he's
Speaker 3: kicking him.
Speaker 1: And for a while he was part of the Trump campaign,
Speaker 1: but they parted ways right now. I believe and I
Speaker 1: got hints, you know, Will talking to him that that honestly,
Speaker 1: he's an off the books advisor at this point, I
Speaker 1: think to the Trump campaign, you know, and and that
Speaker 1: tells you something, because Roger Stone is bombastic. I mean,
Speaker 1: he definitely, uh you know, is not somebody who's holding
Speaker 1: his tongue and trying to be politically correct either.
Speaker 3: But let's not.
Speaker 2: Make it all about Roger Stone.
Speaker 3: And I want to get him on my show. Probably
Speaker 3: never happened now, but.
Speaker 2: No, if you.
Speaker 3: Don't know, I'll give you the publicist, the contact. I'll
Speaker 3: help you out with that.
Speaker 1: But uh, it's but it's an interesting array of characters.
Speaker 1: And again I stand back and disbelieve that this guy
Speaker 1: is still being taken seriously after the wreckage that he caused,
Speaker 1: you know, with his own business practices, after his own
Speaker 1: character remember the whole character matters, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: a thematic thing that went through politics for the longest time.
Speaker 3: Where are all those people? I don't know? And this
Speaker 3: is with with Trump. It's so extreme, just the fact
Speaker 3: that his first news conference is first when he declass
Speaker 3: of his presidency. They're all actors. Yeah, he hires these
Speaker 3: extras for fifty dollars apiece to come there and be
Speaker 3: his cheering crowd. And then the first thing out of
Speaker 3: his mouth is that all Mexicans are rapists. How do
Speaker 3: you get away with that stuff?
Speaker 2: Man? How do you get away with it?
Speaker 1: He's doubling down on it even today, still talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, the sixty five year old woman. She would
Speaker 1: agree that we got to do something about, you know,
Speaker 1: the sixty five year old woman who is unfortunately a
Speaker 1: veteran who was raped, sodomized, and murdered, you know, by
Speaker 1: some illegal immigrant allegedly, right, that whole thing. He goes, well,
Speaker 1: you know, she would disagree. She would definitely agree with
Speaker 1: me on my immigration policies. And it's like, what, you know, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm in disbelief over it. You know, even if you
Speaker 1: think that way. I mean, it's gotten to the point where,
Speaker 1: you know, he has to disavow. Now the robocall coming
Speaker 1: from the what is that the National White Power Party
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell that's trying to encourage Trump votes
Speaker 1: over the phone, right.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he's well, you know his dad, you know,
Speaker 3: we kind of broke that story. I had Aj Webman
Speaker 3: on the show the day that AJ found out that
Speaker 3: Trump's dad was busted at a KKK rally in nineteen
Speaker 3: thirty in New York City. And if you read the flyer,
Speaker 3: because it's from the New York Times, it was like
Speaker 3: June thirtieth, nineteen thirty, when I can twenty nine, something
Speaker 3: like that, and Fred Trump was busted at a KKK round,
Speaker 3: one of the leaders. And if you read the flyer
Speaker 3: from the rally, it's the same stuff he says, now,
Speaker 3: you know, the nativist kind of stuff right right.
Speaker 1: And gets away with all sorts of statements that nobody challenges. Now,
Speaker 1: I unfortunately had to sort of agree with the idea
Speaker 1: that you know, when he said that Hillary you know,
Speaker 1: created isis Well, she's not the creator, but she definitely
Speaker 1: assisted in the encouragement, you know, in my estimation. But
Speaker 1: then again, I'm a crazy conspiracy theorist. He passes things
Speaker 1: like this along and nobody even bets an.
Speaker 3: I yeah, I know, I know what you're saying. I
Speaker 3: don't know what to say, man, I don't know what
Speaker 3: to say. It's but but the thing is, if you
Speaker 3: had him on your show, would you ask him those questions?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Probably not, because you still you want them to come on.
Speaker 3: You don't want them to hang up. You know, if
Speaker 3: you're there at the rally, you got a chance to
Speaker 3: answer my question. You don't want to get beat up
Speaker 3: and kicked out of there. You know.
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't think I would do it
Speaker 1: in person, but I'll tell you what I did. Try
Speaker 1: and reach out to him to get him on the show.
Speaker 1: And uh, and and I and and and the offer
Speaker 1: is open, by the way, if Donald Trump wants to
Speaker 1: come on and talk to somebody who's completely disgusted with
Speaker 1: both political parties.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know you're you're.
Speaker 1: Actually absolutely you have an open invite and I'll cancel
Speaker 1: whatever show if you want to come on. Okay, So
Speaker 1: anybody who who hears that I leave the door open,
Speaker 1: I will have that discussion with him, and believe me,
Speaker 1: I'll ask him a lot of these.
Speaker 3: Questions that you know that I'm firing at you. So
Speaker 3: I hope he doesn't want to come on tonight. I'll
Speaker 3: get bumped.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll keep you on. You can stay with me.
Speaker 1: You know, I doubt imagine him walking into a show
Speaker 1: with you and me that would that would not work
Speaker 1: for it. So what we're gonna ask about Bernie. Oh
Speaker 1: so you know Bernie Sanders. Okay, now here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you here. I I'm registered
Speaker 1: as a libertarian. I don't believe I'm going to vote
Speaker 1: because at this point in time, I feel as though,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing has already been rigged, it's
Speaker 1: been selected.
Speaker 2: What I do is irrelevant.
Speaker 1: That's that's the kind of attitude I have, And I
Speaker 1: know some people pick on me for it. But the
Speaker 1: truth is that if I took what these candidates said
Speaker 1: at face value from either side of the alleged you know,
Speaker 1: two sided coin that you know, I still say is
Speaker 1: the Purple Party here in America. The fact is that
Speaker 1: the two guys that I would even consider would be
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders and John Kasik. Okay, those would be the
Speaker 1: guys I would if those two actually rose in the
Speaker 1: polls and were presented as the alleged choices, I would
Speaker 1: actually vote. And I have not pulled a lever for
Speaker 1: a presidential candidate since the day I pulled the one
Speaker 1: for a guy named Clinton.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know it sounds like an AA meeting.
Speaker 3: Hi, my name is Chuck, and I voted for Bill Clinton.
Speaker 1: But The thing is that among the candidates that are
Speaker 1: out there, these two are actually speaking about things that matter.
Speaker 3: They're not going out there.
Speaker 1: And just making these statements based on a political elitism.
Speaker 3: At all times, right in my estimation.
Speaker 1: But when I said on the show, that excuse me
Speaker 1: that a guy like Bernie Sanders, who says that, you know,
Speaker 1: he wants to do things for the country, that he
Speaker 1: wants to take care of people here, that he thinks that,
Speaker 1: you know, interventionism, it's not the way to go, and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I don't object to.
Speaker 3: Those kind of positions that he's taken.
Speaker 1: And he's actually addressing the economic woes that we're dealing
Speaker 1: with domestically, Okay, unlike everybody else who's got a platform
Speaker 1: to speak at this point in my estimation, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: With you, man. And for years and years and years,
Speaker 3: I've been saying, it doesn't matter who's like it, because
Speaker 3: they have no power, you know, and the presence just
Speaker 3: a puppet. They have no power. And I would talk
Speaker 3: like Cynthia McKinney, you know, and I said, does it
Speaker 3: really matter? And they would be, oh, yeah, we just
Speaker 3: need to vote out the rascals, you know. And I
Speaker 3: had Cindy Shehan on the show and Danny Shean and
Speaker 3: all these dealing. Danny Sheen was in part of Jim
Speaker 3: Carter's transition team, and they would say, oh no, yeah,
Speaker 3: we can bring back the left, and we can bring
Speaker 3: it back the left and the Democratic Party and get
Speaker 3: really good programs going. And I never believed that until
Speaker 3: I started going to these burning rallies because I'm a socialist.
Speaker 3: I'm a real socialist man. I think I look at
Speaker 3: the Hugo Chavis with a suspicious eye. I can't, Wow,
Speaker 3: he's not left it up for of a okay, And yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm dude. I'm a revolutionary man from the seventies,
Speaker 3: the yippies and the Lower East Side, you know. And
Speaker 3: I've gotten my head beat in, you know. And that's
Speaker 3: how I think we need to We need real left
Speaker 3: in this country. It's like the Black Panthers, you know,
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: No, and you know what, emotionally and on some see,
Speaker 1: here's the thing I'm weird in that I absolutely believe that.
Speaker 2: You know, First of all, the.
Speaker 1: Black Panthers have always been mischaracterized anyway. Uh, these were
Speaker 1: individuals that were, you know, doing things like feeding breakfast
Speaker 1: to kids in local neighborhoods and stuff like that. Believed
Speaker 1: in self defense, believed in no longer being trounced upon.
Speaker 1: And I can't argue with them. Okay, that's the way
Speaker 1: I see them. And I think that they were absolutely
Speaker 1: destroyed by j Edgar Hoober and co Intel pro and
Speaker 1: you know, take a look.
Speaker 2: At the the the the.
Speaker 1: Decimation of the like Fred Hampton and individuals like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they were absolutely feasted upon by a tyrannical
Speaker 1: section of our government, uh and and demonized, you know, publicly.
Speaker 1: As a constant, I absolutely support the Black Panthers.
Speaker 2: I'm also somebody who believes in gun rights.
Speaker 1: I'm also somebody who believes though that you know, that
Speaker 1: our military has been overextended, over used and used unjustly
Speaker 1: all over the planet, and you know, things like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, in a lot of ways, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like the uh, the uh, the liberal anarchist you know,
Speaker 1: uh in a lot of ways, Which is funny because
Speaker 1: people who do shows like mine and say a lot
Speaker 1: of the things that I do are generally more in
Speaker 1: a right wing you know, vain. But but I am not,
Speaker 1: except that the the true libertarian sense of things.
Speaker 2: You know, there was a different way of.
Speaker 1: Being libertarian when we were coming up a few years ago. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know that doesn't match what they describe as libertally.
Speaker 1: Now I see myself more as a classic libertarian that
Speaker 1: believes that, you know, the government should not be involved in.
Speaker 3: Your personal life, things like that.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I do. And I started out as an anarchist. That
Speaker 3: was my first position as a kid seventeen eighteen years old,
Speaker 3: and then I've become over a leftist. It's ease. I
Speaker 3: think we need to nationalize like the oil companies. We
Speaker 3: need to nationalize the oil industry. We need to double
Speaker 3: the tax on the top one percent. And I believed
Speaker 3: for a very long time that there was no difference
Speaker 3: in who was ever in the White House. Very recently,
Speaker 3: I've been in touch with some people that were we're
Speaker 3: in the Obama white House and also in the Clinton
Speaker 3: white House in their dealings with the Israel, and I
Speaker 3: found out that no, the president, especially Obama, has had
Speaker 3: some personal input into US foreign policy as we relate
Speaker 3: to Israel. And I was stunned to find this out
Speaker 3: that he had much more power than I thought he did.
Speaker 3: And my plan wise when I started to go to
Speaker 3: these Bernie rallies is that these kids weren't a fair
Speaker 3: to the word socialist. And I said, well, we can
Speaker 3: go in there and mobilize these kids, these people that
Speaker 3: this Bernie base. We can mobilize them to a much
Speaker 3: more leftist candidate as time goes on. But I'm happy
Speaker 3: now with Bernie. And I know there's a lot of things.
Speaker 3: Are Bernie the gun controlled stuff, I definitely don't go
Speaker 3: for it, But I also don't care if this gun laws.
Speaker 3: I don't care about the loss.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, there's a statement for you right there,
Speaker 1: there's the.
Speaker 3: Quote of the day. I don't care about the loss,
Speaker 3: so gonna go ahead. Sorry. As a defense investigator, my
Speaker 3: whole life working on organized crime cases from the eighties
Speaker 3: okay to drug cases, all the kind of stuff. Half
Speaker 3: of my clients are criminals with illegal guns on them,
Speaker 3: and they I've never had a problem. I can't get
Speaker 3: along on everybody, but my plan was to organize this base.
Speaker 3: But when you hear Bernie at the speeches, you're not
Speaker 3: going to see it on TV because they don't play
Speaker 3: it on TV. But he's talking about the Walmart family,
Speaker 3: the Walton family. There's these six people that possess forty
Speaker 3: percent of this country as well, the six people that
Speaker 3: never worked a day in their life. And he'll talk
Speaker 3: about that kind of stuff at the rallies, and then
Speaker 3: he says, if people tell you that it doesn't matter
Speaker 3: who is president, then why are the Koch brothers spending
Speaker 3: nine hundred million dollars to get their guy in there?
Speaker 3: And it's convinced me in a lot of ways. Part
Speaker 3: it's not perfect, okay, but I think it's a great
Speaker 3: step in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Well, absolutely, And like I said, if I had to,
Speaker 1: you know, if I really honestly, if I thought it mattered,
Speaker 1: this would be the.
Speaker 2: Guy I would probably support.
Speaker 1: Because again, he's speaking to the fact that we're living
Speaker 1: in essentially a fascist state at this point, where the
Speaker 1: corporate interests are held over the interests of the people.
Speaker 1: That is specifically what Mussolini said, you know, regarding what
Speaker 1: who would know fascism better than Mussolini, but Mussolini said
Speaker 1: that fascism could be more accurately described as corporatism. And
Speaker 1: tell me that that is not the state of affairs
Speaker 1: here in this country at this point. You know, which
Speaker 1: is why I said what I did about the country
Speaker 1: and why I always say that, you know that we
Speaker 1: seem to be occupied and uh, you know, and we're
Speaker 1: dealing with corporate America at this point.
Speaker 2: And you know, and again those of us.
Speaker 1: Who are out there as the workers, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how well you're doing, but it seems to
Speaker 1: me as though nobody has improved their station in life
Speaker 1: in the past decade. Really, uh, you know, and what
Speaker 1: does that say?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: The game is rigged? Yeah, I totally agree with you.
Speaker 3: It's rigged for guys, middle class guys like us. But
Speaker 3: when you look at a town like Ferguson, who're like
Speaker 3: fifty sixty percent of the town all had arrest warrants
Speaker 3: on them because they're all getting pulled over and get
Speaker 3: these tickets all the time. And on any given day,
Speaker 3: ten percent of the population had a court date to
Speaker 3: go down to court to answer a warrant or answer
Speaker 3: a ticket because the whole city budget was being run
Speaker 3: on ticketing people, pulling people over and giving them tickets.
Speaker 3: And that's how the whole economy but this town ran, yeah, right,
Speaker 3: And you know, and meanwhile, it's it's it's it seems
Speaker 3: to be about race, and it is to some degree,
Speaker 3: but at the same time, it's also about the way
Speaker 3: that things have become mechanized regarding you know, the industry
Speaker 3: of punishment and court Once you get yourself into a
Speaker 3: court room situation and you've been fined, or you've been
Speaker 3: involved in something that's in dispute, or you're being charged
Speaker 3: with anything, even if it's a minor crime, at this
Speaker 3: point in time, you get so stuck, you know, unless
Speaker 3: you have the money to buy your way out of
Speaker 3: it real quick. Gee, this sounds familiar.
Speaker 2: If you can buy your way out, it's okay.
Speaker 1: But if you're in a position where you don't have
Speaker 1: the money right on, right on your person at that time,
Speaker 1: you know, next thing you know is you're stuck in
Speaker 1: a cycle. And that's the way it is in a
Speaker 1: lot of places in this country, and not just in Ferguson,
Speaker 1: but there you go. That's one of those instances where
Speaker 1: it got way out of control. And it seems to
Speaker 1: me all over the country. Did this encouragement of the
Speaker 1: way that the police are handling the public is way
Speaker 1: out of control. I mean, this is something I didn't
Speaker 1: expect to speak to you about, But I mean the
Speaker 1: truth is, I mean we've seen a huge change in
Speaker 1: the attitude.
Speaker 3: You know, it used to be that local, good old boys.
Speaker 1: Club no matter where you were, no matter what race
Speaker 1: we were talking about, that that had, you know, a
Speaker 1: power base in any locality. But now it's become really
Speaker 1: militarized in my estimation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's in the training. If you look at
Speaker 3: the Eric Garner case on Staten Island, and I'm from
Speaker 3: Staten Island, that guy that prosecuted okay that you know
Speaker 3: that took a dive you know, with the Grand Juria
Speaker 3: there in Stanton Island. Eric Garner. A lot of people
Speaker 3: don't know this, but he had he had been arrested many,
Speaker 3: many times. And one of the times he was arrested,
Speaker 3: he was put in Rikers Island and he did a
Speaker 3: handwritten civil rights lawsuit against the New York City Police Department.
Speaker 3: This is before they killed him. And in there he
Speaker 3: talks about how they saw him. They pulled him over,
Speaker 3: and they pulled his pants down in the middle of
Speaker 3: the street, and they searched him amily with their fingers.
Speaker 3: They put on gloves and they searched his anus. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So when you see him on that video that day
Speaker 3: and he's saying, you guys are always bugging me. This
Speaker 3: stops here, This stops here right now today. You wonder
Speaker 3: why this guy is resisting these cops is because what
Speaker 3: they did to him previously. And it's not just as
Speaker 3: a couple of bad apples. This is in the policy.
Speaker 3: It's in the training. Because when this guy's lying on
Speaker 3: the ground saying I can't breathe, and he's hand handcuffs
Speaker 3: dying on the ground, there's a supervisor there, there's a
Speaker 3: black woman supervised or sergeant that's stepping over his body,
Speaker 3: and that the policy is is that if any of
Speaker 3: those cops would uncuff him and try and give him
Speaker 3: mouth to mouth or something like that, they would be
Speaker 3: violating policy and procedure. They'd get in trouble for that.
Speaker 3: So it's not bad apples, guys. We gotta change this
Speaker 3: from the top, and we gotta get see Bernie's not
Speaker 3: toughing her for that. We need some real guys to
Speaker 3: get in there and change this kind of stuff. Otherwise
Speaker 3: gonna be too late because we have a as an
Speaker 3: industry now with privatized prisons, where then making a huge
Speaker 3: fortune arresting us, giving us tike, it's putting us in jail,
Speaker 3: getting us in the system to the point where it's
Speaker 3: really it's we're at a tipping point and if someone
Speaker 3: like Trump gets in there, we're in big, big trouble
Speaker 3: and it might be time to leave the country.
Speaker 1: Well right, because I'll tell you one thing I can
Speaker 1: guarantee is that you know, the cuffs will be off,
Speaker 1: the gloves will be off regarding the policies of policing
Speaker 1: and things like that, because we've seen personally, you and
Speaker 1: I both have seen exactly how this guy runs his
Speaker 1: own personal security, right, Okay, And you know, I hate
Speaker 1: to use the word because it sounds like it's a
Speaker 1: racial term, but trust me, it's not racial.
Speaker 2: This guy doesn't care about what Racy hires to do it.
Speaker 1: Thuggery is encouraged in the Trump you know, business model when.
Speaker 2: It comes to the guys who run security.
Speaker 1: So believe me when I tell you this is not
Speaker 1: the guy who's going to want to question the police.
Speaker 2: He's going to back them.
Speaker 1: Up on every single thing they do, regardless of who
Speaker 1: gets killed or how. You know this, this this is
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that, uh that will be there
Speaker 1: putting in policy if by some miracle ends up in
Speaker 1: the in the office.
Speaker 2: You know, so in that way, I don't know. You know.
Speaker 1: Again, take a look at two sides of the coin.
Speaker 1: If you give me a choice between Sanders and Trump, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Sanders wins if he does nothing, you know.
Speaker 3: Trump, he's lost the Spanish voat. It does not the
Speaker 3: Hispanic voat. That's not the Muslim vote, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: He lost the women vote. You know, who does he have?
Speaker 3: He has these old white, angry, scared people that are
Speaker 3: sitting there in this audience. And there there there scooters
Speaker 3: talking about ices and mumbling about ices and coming to
Speaker 3: get them, you know, fearful people.
Speaker 2: You know that.
Speaker 3: It's a scary crowd over there. Man, I'd say, oh,
Speaker 3: get this too. Bit. I haven't talked about this on
Speaker 3: the area yet. But we went. We signed up for
Speaker 3: the Trump Caucaus training, the Trump he was undercover and
Speaker 3: going into the caucus training. Because my kids, my kid
Speaker 3: is fifteen years old, she's all into politics now. She
Speaker 3: loves Bernie. So we both signed up to go down
Speaker 3: there and take the Caucaus train. So I guess either
Speaker 3: I talked about it on Facebook or I talked about
Speaker 3: it on the air because they were waiting for us, man,
Speaker 3: and they wouldn't let us in. So yeah, so I
Speaker 3: want I'm dying to see what their caucaus training looks like,
Speaker 3: because I can only imagine what that is like. But
Speaker 3: this I might have to put on a disguise and
Speaker 3: stuff that I get some fake idea to get in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Either that or you're gonna have to get somebody to
Speaker 1: volunteer to do the undercover work for you, to you know,
Speaker 1: to collect intel on it. I would be fascinated to
Speaker 1: see what the caucus training is like in the Trump campaign.
Speaker 3: What I'm dying to find out.
Speaker 2: What a what a world man.
Speaker 1: But look, let's let's leave all that alone, because I
Speaker 1: got other weird things to.
Speaker 2: Talk to you about.
Speaker 1: I love it because I can go over so many
Speaker 1: different issues with you. We can talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: the geo political situation if we want to, and you
Speaker 1: can handle that. But I love talking to you about
Speaker 1: some of the more quirky issues in the news too.
Speaker 1: And I told you that I would want to talk
Speaker 1: to you about Cosby because we addressed that in a
Speaker 1: show that we did a few months ago, right when
Speaker 1: those allegations were really starting to mount. I think there
Speaker 1: was only maybe you know, ten women that were publicly
Speaker 1: identified as accusing him at that time. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what the numbers up to at this point. But now
Speaker 1: since then, you know, and it's dropped out of the
Speaker 1: news cycle, if you notice, all right, but since then,
Speaker 1: what happened? This guy counter suit for slander or whatever
Speaker 1: or defamation of character. I forget what the actual suit entitle,
Speaker 1: you know, encompasses, but he's actually countersuit some of his
Speaker 1: accusers now has been formally charged in one locality, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, this thing is evolving in an interesting way,
Speaker 1: and I still contend that that a lot of it
Speaker 1: is fictitious. I think there's probably some legitimate claims that
Speaker 1: are mixed in there, but I bet you a lot
Speaker 1: of it is fictitious, and I'm wondering where it's actually
Speaker 1: coming from.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll tell you this. I believe this. I believe
Speaker 3: one hunch percent this guys. He's been drugging these girls
Speaker 3: and raping these girls. I even suspect, okay, that he's involved,
Speaker 3: uh possibly with the murder of his son. Okay, and wow, yeah,
Speaker 3: and I had on Jules Starr, who was a cousin
Speaker 3: of the daughter who you know, he had his own
Speaker 3: daughter arrested and put in prison in the same day
Speaker 3: that a couple of days. Let's get into the whole
Speaker 3: day with Bill Cosby.
Speaker 2: Let's let's you know what.
Speaker 1: Let's break it down from jump because uh, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody thinks him as you know, the jello pudding guy
Speaker 1: in the Cosby Show and all that. But things took
Speaker 1: a strange turn around the time that his son was killed.
Speaker 1: And this was a situation where he's changing a tire
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, some some attacker comes up and
Speaker 1: just take his life in a pretty brutal fashion.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: This is this is the way that the story was passed.
Speaker 1: But this sort of changed Cosby's career and his life
Speaker 1: and everything else. And at the very same time, like
Speaker 1: you said, he had this estranged daughter, right who was
Speaker 1: trying to assume him and and all these other things,
Speaker 1: and then she winds up getting thrown in prison for extortion.
Speaker 1: And I mean, it's a really weird story considering you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, that sort of squeaky clean image that
Speaker 1: he had for a long time.
Speaker 3: Okay, the first thing you gotta do is you got
Speaker 3: to get out of you had the squeaky clean image,
Speaker 3: because here's a guy that was best buddy, is almost
Speaker 3: his whole life with Richard Pryor. Okay, those are the
Speaker 3: kind of guys that's hanging out. He's hanging out down
Speaker 3: there at the Playboy Magie.
Speaker 1: You know, well, you know what ed ed one second,
Speaker 1: because you know what, we're only a couple of minutes
Speaker 1: away from the break at the top of the hour,
Speaker 1: and I want to just kind of I don't want
Speaker 1: to break this.
Speaker 3: Into pieces, because this is this is.
Speaker 1: Worthy of going through in one one, you know, fell
Speaker 1: swoop and I think it's really interesting the way you're
Speaker 1: going to look at it.
Speaker 2: And I know I've got a slightly different.
Speaker 1: Point of view on it because and I'll just throw
Speaker 1: this out there that way, I won't get in the
Speaker 1: way of what you're going to explain. You know, the
Speaker 1: fact is that some of this stuff gets manufactured, and
Speaker 1: there are people that sort of you know, hang on
Speaker 1: and tag onto these things when they start to happen.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing that I got to say about
Speaker 1: these allegations against them. The second thing is that in
Speaker 1: a lot of cases, there's a buyer's remorse among some
Speaker 1: of these people in Hollywood situations, not necessarily in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: but in Hollywood situations where there's a lot of partying,
Speaker 1: a lot of strange things going on, people get dosed.
Speaker 1: You know very well, you got to protect your drink.
Speaker 1: You know very well, you got to watch where you're
Speaker 1: getting any substance that you're going to consume, whether it's
Speaker 1: food or anything else, when you go to any of
Speaker 1: these celebrity parties, because all kinds of bizarre things have
Speaker 1: gone on, and believe me, most of it never makes
Speaker 1: the news. Okay, Individuals who are you know, on their
Speaker 1: way up, who are are involved in some way or
Speaker 1: another with some of these celebrities on occasions get themselves
Speaker 1: in all sorts of weird situations where sometimes they were
Speaker 1: willing participants, even though you know later on they sort
Speaker 1: of change the story that happens a lot.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So this is where my skepticism comes from, because listen,
Speaker 1: if you.
Speaker 3: Drop yourself anywhere in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Right now, you can pick up a million stories about
Speaker 1: a million different people that you would have never thought
Speaker 1: were even close to reality, from people.
Speaker 3: Who will swear up and down that they experienced all sorts.
Speaker 1: Of dark sides of individuals, right, And I think some
Speaker 1: of the fanfare that came out with this cosmic thing
Speaker 1: is that I really do. But when you have so
Speaker 1: much of it piled up, after a while, you got
Speaker 1: to say to yourself, well, there's probably something legitimate in here,
Speaker 1: and I want to get to that, because again, you know,
Speaker 1: people keep going, look it's the yellow pudding guy, the
Speaker 1: guy who would you know, yell at Eddie Murphy for
Speaker 1: cursing and everything else. But you know, Hollywood and the
Speaker 1: reality are always very very different things. So in the
Speaker 1: next hour we're gonna get into the Bill Cosby thing,
Speaker 1: and god knows where else we're gonna go with Ed Opperman,
Speaker 1: who is my special guest tonight on the O'Kelly Effect.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned to American Freedom Radio.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: And yes, as they said in the chat room, it
Speaker 1: may be part of the dummy load, but listen, this
Speaker 1: is analysis of what you're seeing presented to you for
Speaker 1: a reason. Okay, I am explaining to you the grand distraction.
Speaker 1: Think about it that way. Tonight, my guest Ed Opperman,
Speaker 1: who is a private investigator, radio show host, a writer,
Speaker 1: interesting guy in his own right, with quite an interesting
Speaker 1: past as well. Every time I seem to bring something up,
Speaker 1: it's funny he knows somebody or has been involved with somebody.
Speaker 2: It's just an interesting case of networking.
Speaker 1: And I just enjoy having these conversations with you, and
Speaker 1: it's great to bring him out on the air.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: We were talking about the Cosby case a bit, and
Speaker 1: I did cut you off at the end of the
Speaker 1: last hour because well, honestly, I wanted you to get
Speaker 1: to it in one fell swoop, because this is one
Speaker 1: of those fascinating cases, and I think it's worthy of
Speaker 1: discussion because after all, this to me, you know, smacks
Speaker 1: of something that is being done for a reason. That
Speaker 1: everything is played up in the media for rec and
Speaker 1: it's not always just for the ratings, you know. So
Speaker 1: I say that sometimes there are different reasons why people
Speaker 1: come out and make the statements they do, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera, and it's going to be something interesting to unfold.
Speaker 1: Once again, one of these allegedly squeaky clean icons, you know,
Speaker 1: falling okay before your very eyes.
Speaker 2: And I think it's an interesting study in that way alone.
Speaker 1: But I do want to get to your viewpoint on it,
Speaker 1: because we were talking about we talked about a couple
Speaker 1: other things off the air, but hey, let's continue on
Speaker 1: with the Cosby discussion and see where we go from there.
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, I come to this, like I said, from
Speaker 3: a different point of view, because when I look at
Speaker 3: the Cosby case, I'm like saying, Hey, how come I'm
Speaker 3: not involved in this case. I'm going No one hired
Speaker 3: me to work in this case because I know everyone
Speaker 3: Marty Singer was on the other side of a couple
Speaker 3: of cases I was in. Who was a Cosby's lawyer
Speaker 3: who was one of the toughest LA lawyers out there.
Speaker 3: He was involved. He's involved with guys who wouldn't believe
Speaker 3: guys like Anthony pal Kanno, who is wire tapping the
Speaker 3: whole everyone in Hollywood and inserting himself in the cases
Speaker 3: and blackmailing people all over the place that when he
Speaker 3: was Marty Singer's private investigator, Marty Singers private investigator right now.
Speaker 3: One of them is Paul Barisi, who is this guy real,
Speaker 3: real fascinating guys. While it's too long to explain history,
Speaker 3: but looking up Paul Burres, great great story on him.
Speaker 3: I'd love to get him on the show right now,
Speaker 3: and then Lisa Bloom and Gloria already because I've done
Speaker 3: these other cases big, the other big ones, the Tiger
Speaker 3: Woods case and the Charlie Sheen case that was involved
Speaker 3: in for a whole year Marty Singers, Charlie Sheen's lawyer.
Speaker 3: I was on the other side, you know, the Ashton
Speaker 3: Kutcher case, Wienergate. So I'm very familiar with these cases
Speaker 3: where these women are coming out of the woodwork claiming
Speaker 3: this or claiming that, and they have to be vetted
Speaker 3: out right.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's not crazy statement for me to
Speaker 1: say that there were a lot of these later on,
Speaker 1: you know, bandwagon jumpers of sorts who seek out their
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or seek out to try and you know,
Speaker 1: grab a quick settlement out of something because something else
Speaker 1: has arisen and they might have been in proximity to somebody,
Speaker 1: or they might be able to present the appearance of
Speaker 1: being in proximity to somebody to gain in some way.
Speaker 2: That's not a crazy idea.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: There's plenty of gold diggers and people you know, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to make a fast buck artist that come along
Speaker 3: and try and insert themselves into the story. But like
Speaker 3: I said, everyone who's dealing with these cases, we're used
Speaker 3: to this kind of stuff. The reason why there's fifteen
Speaker 3: women in the Tiger Woods case is because of Ed Opperman.
Speaker 3: That was my job. I'm the one who came up
Speaker 3: with fifteen and maybe it was only fourteen. Couple got there, okay,
Speaker 3: but we had enough, you know that we could insert
Speaker 3: them into the case. But in the National acquir and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, they give you polygraphs. You need to
Speaker 3: corroborate your story with them. They were just hand out
Speaker 3: money to shows up bandor and says hey, I'm want
Speaker 3: to tell why. So as far as that goes, I
Speaker 3: one hundred percent agree with you. People do show up
Speaker 3: out of the woodwork. But the kind of people we're
Speaker 3: talking about here, Gloria Allred, Lisa Bloom, the National Inquirer,
Speaker 3: these are all people that vet out their their their
Speaker 3: clients and their sources before they move ahead. Now, Bill
Speaker 3: Cosby is not some uh teenager in Hollywood that he's
Speaker 3: being run over, so huge power. This guy was gonna
Speaker 3: buy NBC. This guy's hugely powerful. One of the most
Speaker 3: expensive piece of property in Manhattan. This guy owns he
Speaker 3: had his own cop in front of his townhouse there
Speaker 3: in New York City. There's a little booth out in
Speaker 3: front of his townhouse in New York City where he
Speaker 3: had his own NYPD police officer there, okay station there
Speaker 3: in front of his house. Absolutely true, huge money, huge money,
Speaker 3: huge power. Okay uh. Marty Singer is one of the
Speaker 3: most power powerful attorneys in California. Marty Singer is the
Speaker 3: kind of guy that could easily that if fifty women
Speaker 3: or one hundred women are coming along, he could deal
Speaker 3: with every single one of them, either by settling with
Speaker 3: them or was picking up enough Dirk to keep them silent.
Speaker 3: But this did not happen for whatever reason. And we
Speaker 3: have our own different theories. And I had Mark Evner
Speaker 3: on my show a couple of times, and he's the
Speaker 3: guy who wrote the first story about Cosby, and he
Speaker 3: tried to sell it all over. This was years and
Speaker 3: years ago, by the way, this is way before it.
Speaker 3: Hannibal Barras came out with a joke that caused this
Speaker 3: big avalanche to come down on Cosby. First time I
Speaker 3: had Mark Vner on my show, I brought up Cosby
Speaker 3: because I was thinking about the story about Ennis Cosby,
Speaker 3: the son that was murdered, because that always struck me
Speaker 3: as weird. But when I brought up Cosby, Evna says,
Speaker 3: in a completely bizarre story, like I said in the
Speaker 3: first hour, here.
Speaker 1: You know the idea that this kid was, you know,
Speaker 1: the way it was presented the media again, you know,
Speaker 1: sort of an inno kid had been you know, part
Speaker 1: of Cosby's act. So we were familiar with the name Ennis.
Speaker 1: You know, he used to he was a central figure
Speaker 1: in Cosby's act, you know, for years, right, so somebody
Speaker 1: that we heard of in a joking sort of way,
Speaker 1: and people felt that, you know, vicariously, he was like
Speaker 1: represented on the Cosby Show as one of the kids,
Speaker 1: and you know, the theo Huxtable and all that kind
Speaker 1: of thing.
Speaker 3: Right right now. Now, the way we saw it in
Speaker 3: the news was that Annis Consby was driving his car,
Speaker 3: he got a flat, some Russian mobster guy pulls up
Speaker 3: behind him and gets out and kills him. And at
Speaker 3: the same time, Annis Consby had called his girlfriend, who
Speaker 3: also had connections to Russian mob and she shows up
Speaker 3: behind us and sees this and it's dead in the street,
Speaker 3: and she calls the cops because already begin with it.
Speaker 3: But then a couple of days later, Bill Cosby has
Speaker 3: his own daughter arrested for extortion. Now, this is a
Speaker 3: young woman. She was a love child, okay, And she
Speaker 3: had been getting money from Cosby for years and years
Speaker 3: and years. She was paying for a college. He was
Speaker 3: paying for a lot of stuff, but she had dropped
Speaker 3: out of school and she still wanted more money. So
Speaker 3: she got hooked up with this guy who was like
Speaker 3: the fixer and the deal okay. And the guy who
Speaker 3: was fixing his deal with Cosney, negotiating his deal with Cosby,
Speaker 3: was telling her, hey, man, we gotta be careful. We
Speaker 3: could get killed in all this, Okay. Because I interviewed
Speaker 3: Jewel Starr, who is the author of the book who
Speaker 3: just came out with the book. She's Cosby's daughter's cousin
Speaker 3: and she knows all these people, and she told me
Speaker 3: the whole story. And it's kind of funny because this
Speaker 3: woman hit Jewels Starr. I found her because it was
Speaker 3: a story in the National inquiry where she was alleging
Speaker 3: that perhaps Cosby was involved in the murder of his son,
Speaker 3: which was suspicious as hell to begin with. That whole
Speaker 3: thing where the guy gets the flat and the hitman
Speaker 3: comes up, that happens all time in New York. That's
Speaker 3: a known method for hitman to kill somebody.
Speaker 2: Right, they'll turn around and put a This is the truth,
Speaker 2: by the way, and I know this not.
Speaker 1: I don't want to explain why I know this, but
Speaker 1: let me just say that I can verify personally that
Speaker 1: what will happen is somebody will play something like a
Speaker 1: razorblade or something like that in the track of a
Speaker 1: tire and it won't go flat right away. But as
Speaker 1: you run your car down the road a couple miles
Speaker 1: and if somebody were to follow behind you, let's just say,
Speaker 1: what happens is your tire winds up going flat and
Speaker 1: now they have the opportunity to either rob you, kill you.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is that the goal is. This is a
Speaker 1: typical mo for a lot of guys who are involved
Speaker 1: in that business.
Speaker 3: Let's just say, right, it's not a rocket science, it's
Speaker 3: not reinventing the wheel. This is something that's done right.
Speaker 3: So now I read about this the National Choir that
Speaker 3: this woman. Jewel Starr says, Hey, this might have happened
Speaker 3: this way, right, So I says, oh, man, I want
Speaker 3: to talk to her. Let me get a her. It
Speaker 3: turns out she lives off the grid, her and her husband.
Speaker 3: She lives here in Vegas, by the way. But what
Speaker 3: they did was they took a tractor trailer truck and
Speaker 3: they modified it so that there's like a living room
Speaker 3: in this truck. Not like he would take a bus
Speaker 3: and refurbish it or a motor home. They took a
Speaker 3: tractor trailer truck and they live in his tractor trailer
Speaker 3: truck off the grid. So I locate her. Okay, I
Speaker 3: located her off the grid, and I call her up
Speaker 3: and I say, I want to have you on the show.
Speaker 3: She says, how do you know about this? I says,
Speaker 3: how do I know? It's on the front page of
Speaker 3: the National Inquiry. She didn't even know she was on
Speaker 3: the front page of the in Choir with the story.
Speaker 3: That's how I told her.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm.
Speaker 3: Talking to her now. I had her on the show
Speaker 3: for like four hours. Then at the National Choir contacted
Speaker 3: the Russian hitman. Let's call him right in prison, and
Speaker 3: he confessed. He says, yeah, I did, I regret doing
Speaker 3: this murder. But they asked him about his motivations and
Speaker 3: who hired him to do it and was Cosby behind it,
Speaker 3: and he declined to talk about that at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was a lot of weird stuff where
Speaker 3: it suddenly because and her theory is is that he
Speaker 3: was siding with the daughter who had been getting payments
Speaker 3: her whole life, okay, and when she stopped getting payments
Speaker 3: for cons because she dropped out of school, and then
Speaker 3: she said, okay, I want to lump some payment. So
Speaker 3: instead of hiring a lawyer, she hired some guy who
Speaker 3: was like an agent character hustler, who went in and
Speaker 3: negotiated the steal. And then when they went in to
Speaker 3: pick up the money, they arrested her and he prosecuted her.
Speaker 3: And this, you know, show he testified against his own
Speaker 3: daughter to put her in prison.
Speaker 2: Right again.
Speaker 1: Not another situation that's unusual where there are these guys
Speaker 1: who basically operate as facilitators in a lot of these situations. Uh,
Speaker 1: quite often they get involved when you got somebody who's
Speaker 1: like a high profile personality and they've got you know,
Speaker 1: some illegitimate kid, or they've got you know, some disgruntled
Speaker 1: former employee or somebody that they you know, were involved
Speaker 1: in some nefarious kind of relationship with. You know, they
Speaker 1: sweeping under the carpet this way, so there's no paper trail,
Speaker 1: there's only the word of this hustler, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I mean again, not something that's out of the norm really.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and and and I can tell you man,
Speaker 3: uh that's that's and sometimes that's been me. Okay, I've
Speaker 3: been the I was gonna say, they hire pis to
Speaker 3: do this kind of work all the time. I would
Speaker 3: get a call at five o'clock in the morning, Eddie,
Speaker 3: you gotta pick up this girl, take it down to
Speaker 3: get a polygraph because she's pregnant with so and so's baby.
Speaker 3: We got to get this on record because you know,
Speaker 3: we're going to cut a deal with this guy. And
Speaker 3: I'm driving around, fine, and if this person taking her room,
Speaker 3: but sticking in a motel room getting it, getting it,
Speaker 3: you know, and now I got to shop around for
Speaker 3: a cheap enough polygraph expert that's all that comes down
Speaker 3: and do the job. Because they're all too cheap to
Speaker 3: hire a really good uh polygrapher.
Speaker 2: So it's like they give you a.
Speaker 1: Basic retainer and you got to work within that budget
Speaker 1: otherwise you're losing money.
Speaker 3: So right, it's everyone's different. Sometimes you gotta cut at
Speaker 3: the end and stuff like that, or you get some
Speaker 3: kind of publicity out of it. Uh, like all these
Speaker 3: cases that I taught talk about the Tiger Woods, and
Speaker 3: it's because the deal was in the beginning was I
Speaker 3: was going to get a press release at the end.
Speaker 3: So I don't talk about cases when clients don't want
Speaker 3: me to talk about it. I only I can tell
Speaker 3: this sum I can talk about because that was the
Speaker 3: deal and they're the ones promoting it really more than
Speaker 3: I am. Otherwise, nothing you could do is at the end.
Speaker 3: If they screw you at the end, you can sue
Speaker 3: the client and then you get your name in the
Speaker 3: press for that. If they don't pay an the end,
Speaker 3: then you sue them. And you see that all the
Speaker 3: time till Private investcasueing their client because they didn't they
Speaker 3: didn't get the deal they were supposed to get. But
Speaker 3: so form my opinion of this, cosmy thing is I
Speaker 3: think he's guilty and Like I said, this guy has
Speaker 3: a history going back talking about Spanish fly his whole
Speaker 3: life and drugging girls as part of his comedy routine,
Speaker 3: hung out with the guys like Richard Pryor, so he's
Speaker 3: no stranger to the drug life and the drinking like
Speaker 3: hung out at the Playboy mansion. One of these girls
Speaker 3: he's alleged to have raped was a fifteen year oldl
Speaker 3: that he brought the Playboy Mansion. There's no denying he
Speaker 3: brought this fifteen year old the Playboy mansion. That happened.
Speaker 3: Just though, did he drug er and rape or not?
Speaker 3: That we don't know. Now you say, well, there's fifty
Speaker 3: women and they didn't come forward. Someone might be shaky. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I guarantee some of them are shaky.
Speaker 2: And that's why too.
Speaker 3: You don't see Gloria Already and Lisa Bloom and people
Speaker 3: like that handling every single client right right by the
Speaker 3: time you get where Gloria already is doing a press conference,
Speaker 3: it's because she couldn't make a deal, She couldn't get paid,
Speaker 3: they couldn't make a settlement. Now she's gone and done
Speaker 3: the press conference, so we know about fifty. There could
Speaker 3: be another hundred who got settlements that we don't know about.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the other thing, because there would be a
Speaker 1: non disclosure clause to any of those settlements, probably, so
Speaker 1: there could be a limitless amount of people that were
Speaker 1: involved that haven't come forward yet because that was part
Speaker 1: of the deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
Speaker 3: And how they do that is they give you an
Speaker 3: annuity so that you get payments a little bit each year.
Speaker 3: And as long as that way, you can't just get
Speaker 3: your money and screw them anyway, that's why. But they
Speaker 3: get screwed anyway. It's real shame some of these young
Speaker 3: women and these clients. They get screwed anyway because they
Speaker 3: get the annuity. But then the lawyer wants a big
Speaker 3: chunk at the beginning so that they wind up with problems.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well that's the other thing, because they're the oneers who
Speaker 1: collected the money, and meanwhile the lawyer's seen as an expense.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it becomes a whole thing.
Speaker 1: But it's an interesting case and it does speak to
Speaker 1: this entire excuse me for saying, but underbelly of a
Speaker 1: sort of business that goes on, which sad to say
Speaker 1: or not sad to say. Actually, I'm kind of happy
Speaker 1: to say you're part of it, because you really understand
Speaker 1: how a lot of these things really work.
Speaker 3: And one of the reasons why I got involved with
Speaker 3: alternative media is because I wanted to tell people about them,
Speaker 3: because I have an insight to how the media works.
Speaker 3: And I was involved with a big giant case with
Speaker 3: the Sarah Palin and Todd Palin that wound up a
Speaker 3: part of a Congressional investigation against the Secret Service, and
Speaker 3: it's part of congression investigation to congressional hearings, and I've
Speaker 3: seen how things work behind the scenes and how things
Speaker 3: are silenced and then covered up. Nobody knows that Todd
Speaker 3: Palin was involved with a prostitute operation there in Alaska,
Speaker 3: and that the Palents have never denied it. That my client,
Speaker 3: Chile Trip reported to Congress that was Todd Palin is
Speaker 3: a client, but also sent to her other clients, and
Speaker 3: she would report on the activity and report back to
Speaker 3: Todd Palin on what she did with these clients, you know,
Speaker 3: and that it was so covered up so bit she had.
Speaker 3: I got involved with that because she had a contract,
Speaker 3: she had a payoff with the National Choir. She sold
Speaker 3: them a story and what happened was they renigged on
Speaker 3: paying her the fifty thousand dollars because, uh, the chief
Speaker 3: of police in Alaska, I forget the town and probably
Speaker 3: Anchorage put out a press press release saying, well, we've
Speaker 3: investigated Todd Palein, We've investigated all of her claims, and
Speaker 3: none of this really happened. What we found out later
Speaker 3: on was that was written by Sarah Palin's attorney and
Speaker 3: that he never really did investigate any of Todd Palin's
Speaker 3: equipment or Chirley Trip's computer or cell phones or laptops
Speaker 3: or address book, all this stuff I had in my
Speaker 3: position by that point. And you want to know what
Speaker 3: the day that they sent that they've even they even
Speaker 3: destroyed some stuff to illegally, contrary to a judge's order.
Speaker 3: But the day I received that evidence, the hard drive,
Speaker 3: the cell phone, the address books, all that stuff. When
Speaker 3: I received that stuff in my office, that's the same
Speaker 3: day that Sarah Palin went on Hannity and says I'm
Speaker 3: not going to run for president.
Speaker 1: See that tells you something right there, because I guarantee
Speaker 1: you that would have dug deeper into her, they would
Speaker 1: have found all kinds of weird stuff. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: would have gone way beyond Gee, they got expensive clothes during.
Speaker 3: The campaign, you know what I mean, there's no way. Yeah,
Speaker 3: oh no, the Palin family up there in a oh boy,
Speaker 3: I forget the name of a little town because the
Speaker 3: first town she was mayor of was like five hundred people.
Speaker 3: Is a tiny little town, you know, Wabashah or something,
Speaker 3: right or something like that. Wasscilla, Wasscilla.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: And that's one of the things if you watch that
Speaker 3: movie that Nick Boomfield did about that, he wanted to
Speaker 3: do a story that they were right wing Christians, but
Speaker 3: that's not what they were at all. Man. These guys
Speaker 3: had a weekly poker game going on up there. Uh,
Speaker 3: these were really this is a wild bunch. I'm a
Speaker 3: wild guy. This is a wild bunch, man, you know.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And but he did a different kind of a story
Speaker 3: even though he knew what what the real facts were.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, h so so, so that's the whole thing.
Speaker 3: And I wanted to get that out and tell people, Hey,
Speaker 3: this is what's really going on behind the scenes that
Speaker 3: you don't hear about in the major news. And that's
Speaker 3: how I got involved in alternative media.
Speaker 1: Right right, And you know, it's uh, it's differently, and
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, every time you do one of these shows,
Speaker 1: it's really fascinating because you do provide us with an insight,
Speaker 1: and you know, has anybody tried to sue you over
Speaker 1: any of these shows?
Speaker 3: Now, I've had some threats different kinds of threats to
Speaker 3: the show about the murder of Tupac Shakor, and I
Speaker 3: got some threats on that one.
Speaker 1: My god, oh man, listen you you you now struck
Speaker 1: a nerve with me because I would love to talk
Speaker 1: to you about that before we do.
Speaker 2: Though, anybody wants to call in.
Speaker 1: I know I put it out on social media, but
Speaker 1: I want to tell you guys, the phone lines are
Speaker 1: open at two point eight three three nine eight five
Speaker 1: two five, and it's endless really what you could ask
Speaker 1: ed about but or whatever you want to interject into
Speaker 1: this conversation.
Speaker 2: I know it's a little unusual for what.
Speaker 1: I usually cover on the show, but man, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: this is an absolute dissection of the way the mainstream
Speaker 1: media winds up interpreting a lot of the realities. That's
Speaker 1: why I have ed on by the way, in case
Speaker 1: you guys don't understand, because it's sort of like you know,
Speaker 1: usually chunk you talk about very serious and this is
Speaker 1: very serious too, because this is all about the deception
Speaker 1: that is put in front of you. You know, the
Speaker 1: rest of the story. Remember there used to be a
Speaker 1: guy who said that famously all the time. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: here's the rest of the story. And Ed's one of
Speaker 1: these guys who can bring it to you. And he
Speaker 1: does that on something he calls the Opperman Report. And
Speaker 1: I'm telling you definitely worth worth a listen, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: for issues like this and also a lot of the
Speaker 1: other larger issues out there as well. I mean, I
Speaker 1: might actually want to get into the Hammonds with you
Speaker 1: at some point, uh during this discussion, but who knows
Speaker 1: that we'll run out of time. So two p One
Speaker 1: eight three three nine eight five two five I do.
Speaker 1: I have control of the board, So if you want
Speaker 1: to come on in and say say anything, the rules
Speaker 1: are simple.
Speaker 2: You're allowed to abuse the host, not the guest. That's it.
Speaker 3: I do want to say though, because the last time
Speaker 3: I was on your show, a lot of people were saying, too, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, this guy is not very serious, and I
Speaker 3: really do have a serious background. I've worked I'm death
Speaker 3: penalty qualified. I'm a digital friendsic investigator have presented the
Speaker 3: evidence in death penalty trials Before Congress, I was involved
Speaker 3: in a congressional investigation and two congressional hearings involving the
Speaker 3: US Secret Service. So I'm not a fly by night guy.
Speaker 3: I'm credential and I was involved in some of the
Speaker 3: biggest organized crime cases in New York in the history
Speaker 3: of New York, the Pizza Connection trial. Rudolph Giuliani was
Speaker 3: prosecuting that case, and I was working for the defense,
Speaker 3: worked with you know, very prominent attorneys, you know throughout history.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, for people who might have forgotten,
Speaker 1: or for people who aren't from the Northeast, why don't
Speaker 1: you give a quick explanation of what the Pizza Connection was.
Speaker 3: Pizza connected, very interesting pizza connection cases. These guys were
Speaker 3: importing heroin and they were doing it through the chain
Speaker 3: of pizzerias across the country and by and my job
Speaker 3: in that case originally was is I was working at
Speaker 3: a pi's office in Brooklyn, and our job was to
Speaker 3: listen to the FBI recordings and give our own transcript
Speaker 3: of what we heard, so the FBI would say Hey,
Speaker 3: we're gonna break some egg we're gonna break some legs,
Speaker 3: or we're gonna sell them some drugs. And we would say,
Speaker 3: oh no, no, we heard we're gonna cook them some eggs,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna give them a hug, you know, and
Speaker 3: then we would present both sides to the jury, and
Speaker 3: the jury to the side, you know, whose version of
Speaker 3: what we heard is correct. That's how you did it
Speaker 3: back in those days, the audio enhancements. You know, by
Speaker 3: a bizarre coincidence, my cousin, my little Irish Catholic, redheaded cousin,
Speaker 3: the girl you know, I was like fifteen years old,
Speaker 3: worked in one of those pizzerias and she was answering
Speaker 3: the phone over there.
Speaker 2: So here I am.
Speaker 3: Listening to these tapes and I'm saying, yeah, is that
Speaker 3: my cousin? And we found out later on I got
Speaker 3: Christmas dinner that it was my cousin was working at
Speaker 3: one of these Pizza Connection pizzerias.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: So it was a huge trial. There's a bunch of convictions.
Speaker 3: Rudy Giuliani was the prosecutor. That's the first time I
Speaker 3: came across from Rudy Giuliani. And when I was a
Speaker 3: kid later on because he was involved with Boat Deal
Speaker 3: and Trump and all those guys later on too, So
Speaker 3: I met him later on under more friendly circumstances. But
Speaker 3: that's the first time in my contact with Rudy Commission
Speaker 3: Commission front was the organized crime Paul Costelano and Semitable
Speaker 3: Ravana and I N. L O. Della Croutche, all those guys.
Speaker 3: That was the biggest organized crime case in New York City.
Speaker 1: Long long before the days he came to national prominence,
Speaker 1: you know, just repetitively screeching at US nine to eleven,
Speaker 1: nine to eleven, nine to eleven, you know, while he
Speaker 1: was allegedly running for president, long before that. We're talking
Speaker 1: about when before he was even mayor. Actually they all
Speaker 1: way before. Yeah, he was the prosecutor for the Northern District.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I had a long I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: A funny thing too, is one of the companies I
Speaker 3: had worked for was Action Research, which was the company
Speaker 3: that they got in trouble. Actually they got in trouble
Speaker 3: for it because they were the ones when HP was
Speaker 3: trying to oust Carly Fierini out of her position at HP.
Speaker 3: They were getting her phone records and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: They had hired Action Research to get all her phone
Speaker 3: records and a lot of stuff like that to get
Speaker 3: I guess blackmail, dirt on I guess what they were
Speaker 3: trying to do to get her out.
Speaker 1: Right, right, right, that's an interesting story too. But no,
Speaker 1: the pizza connection, you know, it was it was about, yes,
Speaker 1: smuggling heroin, but it was really strange because the way
Speaker 1: they were doing it was through these pizzerias, and in
Speaker 1: a lot of cases the pizzerias weren't even making pizza.
Speaker 2: It was some funny stuff you know, that was going on.
Speaker 2: In some cases you.
Speaker 1: Had you had home delivery, you had to call up
Speaker 1: and make a special request, right, I mean it was
Speaker 1: it was quite the operation, actually.
Speaker 3: But you want to know what to Also, on the
Speaker 3: other hand, there were some guys that got brought up
Speaker 3: in that who were just innocent pizzerio own franchises of
Speaker 3: these pizzerias.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the other thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a bunch of guys who were
Speaker 1: pizza delivery people that you know, we're getting you know,
Speaker 1: ten bucks a day and all the tips that could
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: They could squeeze out of people and they.
Speaker 1: Got caught up in it as well, completely you know,
Speaker 1: unaware they were caught up in heroin distribution and everything else.
Speaker 2: It was a massive, massive thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you, man, And I'm sure a lot
Speaker 3: of guys walked on that. It's interesting. So I was
Speaker 3: still going to a j Weberman because I remember it
Speaker 3: back in the eighties hearing about a case. It was
Speaker 3: either Gorpadal or Norman Mayle or one of these big
Speaker 3: writers in New York City who was involved in a
Speaker 3: multi hundred pound hashish deal in New York City and
Speaker 3: they let him go and he said the reason was
Speaker 3: is because he was working on a story for a
Speaker 3: book and they did the charged him on.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well maybe maybe.
Speaker 1: I mean, you never New York justice has been so strange.
Speaker 1: It's it's nothing like what you see in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Los Angeles to me is like one of the most corrupt,
Speaker 1: uh you know, local law enforcement slash justice systems you
Speaker 1: see across across the country. It's like the exemplar of
Speaker 1: what's wrong everywhere else. But New York is like this weird,
Speaker 1: sort of quirky kind of handshaking, a wink kind of
Speaker 1: deals being made all the time. Uh. And and and
Speaker 1: that's the way it is. It's sort of like a
Speaker 1: given in that area. And uh, you know, here here's
Speaker 1: another thing. Nobody ever calls anything out on, right, uh,
Speaker 1: except except when they want to bring up somebody's record,
Speaker 1: like a Rudy Giuliani, who was you know, amazing because
Speaker 1: he was the Italian who was actually a mob buster supposedly, right, uh,
Speaker 1: interesting in that way, but.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I just wanted to throw that in there. I
Speaker 3: just think that he busted every family except for one.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go, there's the caveat right, there's one
Speaker 1: family that didn't seem to really catch it from the
Speaker 1: Giuliani regime.
Speaker 3: Which one was that?
Speaker 2: Again?
Speaker 3: It the one with the chin all right? Shut down
Speaker 3: all the all the strip clubs in New York except
Speaker 3: the ones that there were some that they weren't allowed
Speaker 3: to stay open. But all of those guys shut down.
Speaker 3: What a character that guy was?
Speaker 2: Man, oh Gigante or Rudy, which one or both?
Speaker 3: Rudy was when I was a kid, because the first
Speaker 3: time I ran into Rudy Johanna, I was like nineteen
Speaker 3: years old, you know, and it was an arrogant, arrogant guy,
Speaker 3: you know, just because you know, you deal with attorneys
Speaker 3: and prosecutors and stuff like that. Everybody's kind of friendly,
Speaker 3: you get along. But this guy was just always like
Speaker 3: a hard case man from the first time I ever
Speaker 3: met him, a.
Speaker 2: Hard case with a list. That was a strange thing
Speaker 2: about him too.
Speaker 1: He kind of got rid of it later on, but
Speaker 1: I remember when he still had that affect to him
Speaker 1: when he spoke and he had.
Speaker 3: Really bad comb over, you know, I remem Yeah, there
Speaker 3: was a press conference, a news conference out outside in
Speaker 3: the wind, and it was like a garage door, like
Speaker 3: like I heard of a car was up for the
Speaker 3: wind there, you know.
Speaker 2: God oh man, Yeah, that's true. He was kind of funny.
Speaker 1: I was amazed that he made it to be mayor
Speaker 1: interesting thing about him is when he was he used
Speaker 1: to make these weird late night trips around the city,
Speaker 1: like just go out for a ride, you know, and
Speaker 1: go check things out.
Speaker 2: I always found that really weird about him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really weird too that he had that
Speaker 3: girlfriend that was like a newscast or something like that.
Speaker 3: And then he he got into a fight with his
Speaker 3: wife and he went out onto Gracing mansion outside the
Speaker 3: gates and he had to held a news conference and
Speaker 3: says I'm getting divorced, and his wife like barely knew
Speaker 3: when he had to remove from the house. I had
Speaker 3: a very bizarre guy man all the way around. Yeah,
Speaker 3: how did he get that far? You wonder, you know,
Speaker 3: someone like did he get that far?
Speaker 1: Well? You know, then again if you only uh, if
Speaker 1: you ignore certain people, I mean, it might help all
Speaker 1: right anyway. Uh, it's one of those things where he
Speaker 1: was put into a position and then disposed of, you know,
Speaker 1: because he was never gonna I contend that no Italian.
Speaker 3: I believe you'll see a female president.
Speaker 1: You'll see a a an openly homosexual president before you'll
Speaker 1: see an Italian president in this country, believe.
Speaker 3: It or not.
Speaker 1: That's maybe that's just my own personal contention, because no
Speaker 1: matter what, one of the things that comes along with,
Speaker 1: you know, having a vowel at the end of your
Speaker 1: name is mob connection.
Speaker 2: Uh it's implied, if not, you know, insinuated.
Speaker 3: So Cuomo at his son's man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I always crack up when somebody passes
Speaker 1: me a clip of what is it Andy Cuomo giving
Speaker 1: you the news? You know, this guy's giving you the news,
Speaker 1: and and and meanwhile well, no, it's Chris Cuomo that
Speaker 1: gives you the news. Andy Clomo is the governor, right,
Speaker 1: And and remember there was the annoying kid that used
Speaker 1: to bother his father at press conferences. Right.
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny to me anyway.
Speaker 1: Sorry, but no, to get back to it, though, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's an interesting kind of a case. When you take
Speaker 1: a look at at how the criminal justice system functioned
Speaker 1: in New York and how it still functions to this day,
Speaker 1: you know, it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: You don't have the same kind of character as you
Speaker 2: used to.
Speaker 3: Though. One thing I give to Rudy is that he
Speaker 3: was definitely again an entertaining guy. You know what I
Speaker 3: have to leaving New York and now I deal with
Speaker 3: the lawyers and prosecutors and police departments all over the country.
Speaker 3: I miss it. You know, in New York City, you
Speaker 3: had a certain kind of because the lawyers in New
Speaker 3: York City kind of kept each other in check, you know,
Speaker 3: and you had to really rise to the top of
Speaker 3: New York. And I deal with some law firms now
Speaker 3: that you would not believe, just they don't care at all.
Speaker 3: They don't care about their clients, not even a little bit.
Speaker 3: And there's no there's no getting a bad reputation because
Speaker 3: all the other law firm doing it too, and all
Speaker 3: these fly by night lawyers just running around running their
Speaker 3: business off their cell phone. I don't even have an
Speaker 3: office or receptionist or anything like that. That would never
Speaker 3: fly back in New York or back by that now,
Speaker 3: when you could never get away with something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you had to have a nice office.
Speaker 1: You had to have, you know, some kind of clout,
Speaker 1: you had to have, you know, well, to function in
Speaker 1: New York or anywhere in the Tri state area.
Speaker 3: You had to have connections, because that's.
Speaker 2: Really what it was about.
Speaker 1: You know, Like when I went into courtroom situations and
Speaker 1: I was dealing with somebody who had been you know,
Speaker 1: one of the governor's lawyers at some point or whatever,
Speaker 1: you knew that this was a guy who already had
Speaker 1: the deck stacked in his favor.
Speaker 3: This kind of thing, you know, yeah, right, because he
Speaker 3: helped get the judge elected. Exactly when I was twenty
Speaker 3: five years old, I had we had a case and
Speaker 3: me and one of both degals guys, there was an
Speaker 3: affidavit that we knew was forged. They had taken an
Speaker 3: added paragraphs in between the signature page and the front page.
Speaker 3: And so we went in and well interviewed the woman
Speaker 3: who signed the affidave and we got on tape. You know,
Speaker 3: I never done them a sinuce in the a sinus.
Speaker 3: So we got that lawyer. I was twenty five years
Speaker 3: old and we got that lawyer in New York City,
Speaker 3: dispart I can tell you right now, with that same
Speaker 3: tape recording and that same evidence that I have then
Speaker 3: with nothing would happen now today, it would do nothing.
Speaker 3: It would be like it doesn't exist. And I've seen
Speaker 3: things I you know, you hear people call you up
Speaker 3: and I tell you these stories about oh ed Man.
Speaker 3: You know, the court transcripts were changed, and years ago
Speaker 3: I would say, I don't believe it, you know, and
Speaker 3: I've seen I've seen it now. I've seen this evidence disappear,
Speaker 3: transcripts changed, you know, in the record. I just stuff
Speaker 3: you would not believe. You know that You think when
Speaker 3: when a client tells you, it's kind of when they
Speaker 3: start talking and start telling you what, Oh you don't
Speaker 3: how bad my cases?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: And now I know these things do happen. It happens
Speaker 3: all of this country.
Speaker 2: Oh right, I mean I'll give you a quick example.
Speaker 1: You know Scott Enyard, who took photographs the night Bobby
Speaker 1: Kennedy was killed, right, the LA police ended up.
Speaker 2: You're familiar with him, right, sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So interestingly, you know, they tell him come back
Speaker 1: in twenty five years and come get your pictures, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't think anything of it.
Speaker 2: That's what he does.
Speaker 1: When he shows back up and you know, demands to
Speaker 1: have his pictures, they tell him they were destroyed. Then
Speaker 1: they tell him they found something. Then they hire a
Speaker 1: courier to deliver it, you know, to the court where
Speaker 1: the case is being heard, because he's now suing you know,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles County, right, And the courier allegedly makes a
Speaker 1: stop somewhere and gets you know, robbed on the way
Speaker 1: to bringing evidence to the court, and therefore his pictures
Speaker 1: are you know, completely gone.
Speaker 2: That's the end of it.
Speaker 3: No, Well, there was a fire, there's a flood, you know,
Speaker 3: you know whatever. Every other document in their office is fine,
Speaker 3: but there's a fire that one file you're looking for
Speaker 3: is god, exactly happens all the time. It's it's not
Speaker 3: even funny that that's what we're dealing with these days,
Speaker 3: that it is good to see a lot of guys,
Speaker 3: like civilians that aren't attorneys or investigator, you know, making
Speaker 3: these that are reporters now, you know, using the Foyer
Speaker 3: requests and stuff like that to get documents and stuff.
Speaker 3: Uh that it feels because back, you know, thirty years ago,
Speaker 3: no one was doing that kind of stuff. So it's
Speaker 3: I like to see that. You know that you've seen
Speaker 3: more and more. That's the people going to the the
Speaker 3: archives and the Congressional record and stuff like that and
Speaker 3: getting stuff pulled and doing stories and stuff. Ag was
Speaker 3: just telling me about how we he got some undeveloped
Speaker 3: film that Oswald had, you know, and he got a
Speaker 3: high resolution scan of Oswald's address book, you know, and
Speaker 3: he decoded it and stuff. So I like to see
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff nowadays.
Speaker 1: All right, I know about that film that that that's
Speaker 1: someone that that had all these interesting photographs which sort
Speaker 1: of changed the story a bit. When you take a
Speaker 1: look at where Oswald's supposed to have been during certain
Speaker 1: time period, it's and it's interesting. A lot of times
Speaker 1: you can't get hold of this evidence and Foyer requests
Speaker 1: have gone so far at this point. But I think
Speaker 1: the more, the more we can yank out of their hands.
Speaker 1: And the more we can make them bring to the
Speaker 1: light of day, the better, you know, regardless of what
Speaker 1: the result is. Because after all, look, and I know
Speaker 1: this sounds kind of ridiculous, but if this stuff is
Speaker 1: being collected on your behalf and you're the citizens, uh
Speaker 1: you know, aren't you entitled to it?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we got to keep the pressure of no
Speaker 1: matter what. Absolutely so yeah, no, and you do have
Speaker 1: a lot of a serious you know, uh uh mona fides.
Speaker 1: Let's just say as as somebody who is an investigator,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're definitely not a joke.
Speaker 2: And you still do that.
Speaker 1: By the way, Uh, people can hire you as a
Speaker 1: private investigator. Still can't think?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you can always email me at the Opperman
Speaker 3: Investigations at gmail dot com. I got a website called
Speaker 3: email revealer dot com. You can go online in place
Speaker 3: in order I invented it search where you can if
Speaker 3: you give me your boyfriend's email address for your girlfriends,
Speaker 3: I could trace that back to online dating websites and
Speaker 3: catch them and cheating online. So I was doing this
Speaker 3: way before the whole thing, this big scandal with Ashley Madison,
Speaker 3: you know. And as a matter of fact, I was
Speaker 3: finding people cheating way before this whole thing happened, and
Speaker 3: I was finding people on Ashley Madison, you know, and
Speaker 3: they used to I guess they were hiring me too
Speaker 3: to find out how I was doing it, because what
Speaker 3: they would do is they would they they used to
Speaker 3: run an ad saying that once you're on Ashley Madison,
Speaker 3: no one can catch a cheating on here, and then
Speaker 3: they would they would hire me like through a pretext,
Speaker 3: and I would catch them on there. I trace the
Speaker 3: email back and then they would change the ad, and
Speaker 3: then they changed their website back. I would have forgot
Speaker 3: a new way to do it, and then they'd change
Speaker 3: it back again. So it was I had a whole
Speaker 3: little thing going on with them for quite a few years.
Speaker 1: You see a bunch of things actually that you've been
Speaker 1: involved in, you know, talk talk to me a little
Speaker 1: bit about the Tupac feel though, because that has always
Speaker 1: fascinated me.
Speaker 3: You know, It's it's one of those deals where, you know,
Speaker 3: it seemed.
Speaker 1: As though because both both the murders of him and
Speaker 1: and Chris Wallace, you know, Big Small's uh really were
Speaker 1: just really bizarre again, another one of these crazy circumstances
Speaker 1: where uh, you know, it was a sign of the times.
Speaker 1: I mean, people forget about the East Coast, West Coast
Speaker 1: rap beefs and all that nowadays.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it seemed as though there
Speaker 2: was a lot more to it.
Speaker 1: There was h there was definitely like uh and and
Speaker 1: there always has been this effort to destroy artists who
Speaker 1: are saying things that are again counterintuitive to the establishment. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of attracted to that story, but
Speaker 1: I've never known exactly what to make of it, even
Speaker 1: though I've had possession of the uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: audio from the from the all Time and all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff in the past. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: one of those things I've never been able to put together.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you wouldn't mind talking about that a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the guy the guest on that is
Speaker 3: John Potash, who wrote the book The FBI War on Tupac.
Speaker 3: M hm. You know Tupac, his whole history, you know,
Speaker 3: did you know that this guy was His family was
Speaker 3: Black Panther Party Royalty. His father is Motulla Shakur, who
Speaker 3: was a part of the New African, the Republican New Africa,
Speaker 3: and I actually met him by coincidence because he used
Speaker 3: to come up to w BAI back in the seventies.
Speaker 3: And then what happened was is that Brink's robbery happened
Speaker 3: with the BLA and the Weather Underground remnants robbed that
Speaker 3: Brinx truck and they busted Matulla Shakur for being involved
Speaker 3: in that. And the only charges they had against him
Speaker 3: because he ran an acupuncture center in Manhattan in Harlem
Speaker 3: to cure people of drug addiction. Wasn't any kind of
Speaker 3: a bank robb or anything like that whatsoever. But this
Speaker 3: guy got forty years in prison. He's in prison right
Speaker 3: now because he was supposed to receive some money from
Speaker 3: that bank robbery, from that armored car robbery. And his
Speaker 3: mother is a big black panther, his uncle is a
Speaker 3: big black panther, his stepfather, so Tupac Shakur was heavily
Speaker 3: involved in a black panther party. He saw a couple
Speaker 3: of cops beating up a guy and he shot one
Speaker 3: of the cops and in self defense and he got
Speaker 3: away with it, you know, And so I believe that,
Speaker 3: and then too, when you get into the day of
Speaker 3: the assassination. So much stuff happened where they these different
Speaker 3: guards and different security guards, and they didn't have walkie talkies,
Speaker 3: and half of the guys were what police undercovered, cops
Speaker 3: and police informists, all kind of stuff. I trace it
Speaker 3: back to a night and that's when as soon as
Speaker 3: I mentioned that in that first show we did about
Speaker 3: the Tupaksha Court murder, and I said, I thought it
Speaker 3: was Sugar Knight. I thought it was a smart idea
Speaker 3: to take a copy of that tape and post it
Speaker 3: on Sugar Knight's Facebook page.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, yeah, so what happened there?
Speaker 1: Because I know Sugar is definitely not the kind of
Speaker 1: guy who likes who's going to sit still or his
Speaker 1: people aren't going to sit still, I should say when you.
Speaker 2: Say something like that, But good, Yeah, it was his people.
Speaker 3: And I actually ran into him once at his lawyer's
Speaker 3: office here in Las Vegas, because you know, we're both
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas, and so I you know, I shook
Speaker 3: hands with the guy who's years and years ago. But
Speaker 3: so I thought it was a good idea. Hey, you
Speaker 3: know what this everyone's talking about it right to discussion,
Speaker 3: and all of his buddies He never came to me
Speaker 3: himself and threatened my life, but everyone who knew him
Speaker 3: that was very unhappy with me. It's funny you mentioned
Speaker 3: the other time I had a real problem. The only
Speaker 3: real problems was was that time. And when I had
Speaker 3: Mayor Jim Rothstein, who's a former NY detective and now
Speaker 3: he's a mayor of a town up in the Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: A fascinating guy. He worked on the Processed Church case
Speaker 3: or the Son of Sam cases and all that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff, but he did a lot of organized crime
Speaker 3: cases as well. That he arrested them. You know, Jim Rostin,
Speaker 3: I wanted to talking. I'm telling you a bunch of mars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's okay. The listeners need to know. I
Speaker 2: know who he is.
Speaker 3: I forget what I was talking to you. So he
Speaker 3: arrested Frank Sturgis and supposed these Jurgis confessed and when
Speaker 3: he when he what he calls a polygraph, Yeah, a
Speaker 3: thirty eight caliber polygraph test on Frank Sturgis. There, but
Speaker 3: talking about the French connection heroin robbery in New York
Speaker 3: City and in Staten Island and stuff like that, it's
Speaker 3: pretty well known who stole the French connection Heroin and
Speaker 3: then later on they went and they invested on a
Speaker 3: bunch of video stores in New York and then they
Speaker 3: sold it. Later on it became Blockbuster Video. Okay, were
Speaker 3: behind it, you know, So we were talking about that,
Speaker 3: so I again, I thought it would be a good
Speaker 3: idea to post that in Staten Island Memories, a Facebook
Speaker 3: page and say, hey, anybody remember these stories. We're talking
Speaker 3: a lot of old people on Staten Island if you
Speaker 3: don't want to, you know, because Mike high school shop
Speaker 3: teacher was a Bartholomew Cod who was the brother of
Speaker 3: the police commissioner. Uh I guess was Ed Cod was
Speaker 3: the commission back in the seventies. So we were talking
Speaker 3: about him, we were talking about the French connection case.
Speaker 3: And I posted this on Standout and that then I
Speaker 3: got a lot of threats at that time too, that
Speaker 3: they didn't like me talking out of turn, that I
Speaker 3: was speaking h when I should not things I should
Speaker 3: not be speaking about. Yeah, you you were speaking out
Speaker 3: of school right there.
Speaker 2: Because and that was a whole weird thing too.
Speaker 1: It wasn't directly Blockbuster video, but what it became Blockbuster video.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the guys we well, you know, I guess everybody
Speaker 3: knows that. But yeah, the guys who made all that money,
Speaker 3: you know, we had a great, big chain of video stores.
Speaker 3: So yeah, those are pretty much the only two times.
Speaker 3: And oh you know what, just recently, I had a
Speaker 3: big crazy thing with this this Hempstead satanic ritual abuse
Speaker 3: case in the UNA if.
Speaker 1: Those are always dicey, because you know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of strange things to go on with these satanic ritual
Speaker 1: abuse deals. And you know the satanic panic that we
Speaker 1: experienced in America, you know back in the early what
Speaker 1: was it, the late eighties, early nineties. I mean you
Speaker 1: recall that, uh, you know, at the height of it,
Speaker 1: Heraldo Rivera is doing a special on it, which was
Speaker 1: a complete joke, but not quite as bad as the
Speaker 1: al Capone special anyway, But now you know what I'm saying, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you about Heraldo Rivera. It always struck me.
Speaker 3: Heraldo Rivera. He left ABC because he did a story
Speaker 3: about the Marlon and Roe murder. Uh, and then they
Speaker 3: went to air it, and then he quit and he disappeared,
Speaker 3: and he came back a multi multi millionaire, owning a helicopter,
Speaker 3: owning an island in Puerto Rico, owning two newspapers on
Speaker 3: East coast, and it always struck me that some kind
Speaker 3: of deal was made with that guy.
Speaker 1: Well, he was tiptoeing around a lot of interesting stories
Speaker 1: and things in the seventies, you know, most famously, and
Speaker 1: I've discussed this on my show several times. I mean
Speaker 1: on Good Night America is where is where the majority
Speaker 1: of the country got their first look at the Zabruta
Speaker 1: film and the Kennedy assassination, you know, And that was
Speaker 1: Roaldo Rivera hosting the show, right, you know, And he
Speaker 1: tiptoed around a lot of really interesting stories when he
Speaker 1: came back.
Speaker 3: I would definitely say a deal was made. Not because
Speaker 3: he came up with all that money.
Speaker 1: I don't know the circumstances there, you know, that would
Speaker 1: be the kind of thing that you could dig into it.
Speaker 1: But I don't know all the stories as to how
Speaker 1: that came about. But the fact that he comes back
Speaker 1: as first as a sort of an establishment joke, you know,
Speaker 1: not really covering anything serious, you know, sort of sorry
Speaker 1: to say, but half passing his way through a lot
Speaker 1: of very serious stories and stuff like that, and then
Speaker 1: winds up landing on places like Fox, you know, later
Speaker 1: on and everything else. It seems as though he was told,
Speaker 1: you know, stay away from the real controversies, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he had one of those afternoon's talk shows
Speaker 3: that was like Oprah and Phil Donahue, but but even
Speaker 3: more like more like Carnie you know, Oh yeah, who
Speaker 3: think that girl the one anyway?
Speaker 2: What Sally Sally, Jesse Raphael who were talking about, like one.
Speaker 3: Of those I'm trying to think of the other one
Speaker 3: that she was. She was in that movie Ricky Lake,
Speaker 3: Ricky Lake. There you go, man, Yeah, yeah, he had
Speaker 3: he had one of those kind of shows in the afternoon,
Speaker 3: you know, and now look at him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did all of it based on the Phil
Speaker 1: Donahue kind of style, which Oprah picked up on later,
Speaker 1: which was the big audience you know, hey, let's take
Speaker 1: questions from the audience. Who's sitting right here again, completely
Speaker 1: juxtaposed to the likes of a Morton Downey junior here
Speaker 1: who who I'm sorry that they're that guy was quite.
Speaker 3: Entertaining, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, that was thrilling,
Speaker 3: you know, TV, you know channel mind, you know, in
Speaker 3: the middle of the night, you know, and that's exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But anyway, like like you were saying, it is weird
Speaker 1: to watch him come back out though in a completely
Speaker 1: different fashion. Uh you know again no longer addressing the
Speaker 1: real sort of uh uh rough edges of investigative journalism.
Speaker 3: It was all gone, Yeah, he's supporting Trump. What does
Speaker 3: that tell you? I know, yeah, it's just mind blowing,
Speaker 3: you know. But on the other hand, I'll tell you this,
Speaker 3: you know, because I know like a lot of guys
Speaker 3: from court, TV and stuff, you know, for years, and uh,
Speaker 3: when you talk to them, like they believe like a
Speaker 3: lot of people say, well, all these guys, you know,
Speaker 3: they are in on it. They're in on the big secret.
Speaker 3: They're all part of the act, the crisis actors or whatever.
Speaker 3: But I can a lot of these guys they believe
Speaker 3: that like nine to eleven was nineteen Arab hijackers, you know,
Speaker 3: And they tell me off the cuff. Whenever I get
Speaker 3: on a plane, I look around to see if there's
Speaker 3: anybody suspicious, if there's anybody looks Arab because I look around.
Speaker 2: So they really believe it with a straight face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm always dumbfounded by people like that because I
Speaker 1: run into him on occasion, you know, in a grocery
Speaker 1: store or something like that, and they talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: Obama's a Muslim, and I'm afraid because, you know, because
Speaker 1: he supports the guys who you know, hit us on
Speaker 1: nine to eleven, and he's not going to stop the
Speaker 1: next attack. And I was listening to that for years.
Speaker 1: You know, people that believe, you know, first of all,
Speaker 1: that Obama's you know, a Muslim and that that would matter,
Speaker 1: and secondly that it was nineteen Arab hijackers who pulled
Speaker 1: off this amazing feat on September eleventh.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I can't go with it.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 2: It's it's just implausible to me.
Speaker 3: Well, everybody I've ever talked to, that's mech Obama that
Speaker 3: would know says he says CIA creation, which is what
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 2: Oh I believe that myself. You know.
Speaker 1: You take a look again, take a look at his parents.
Speaker 1: But step aside from that, I mean, he was perfectly
Speaker 1: well packaged. He was sold to us exactly like they
Speaker 1: would sell us a Manchurian candidate of sorts, you know,
Speaker 1: hope and change.
Speaker 3: Remember that, yea, and his paperwork sucks too, you know, and.
Speaker 1: A community organizer of all things a sends to become
Speaker 1: the president of the United States. I'm sorry, you know
Speaker 1: if that doesn't speak to the fact that that office
Speaker 1: has become quite the joke.
Speaker 2: What can I say?
Speaker 3: Well, I know what you're saying, and I've said that
Speaker 3: all along myself. I've been there, had the same kind
Speaker 3: of attitude, it didn't matter who was in there. But
Speaker 3: talking recently to some sources, I do believe that Obama
Speaker 3: has been making policy, at least as far as our
Speaker 3: relationship with Israel. And met in Yahoo, and another thing
Speaker 3: I heard was that next, yeah, who believes with all
Speaker 3: his heart that he could run for president in the
Speaker 3: United States and he would win, you know, not not
Speaker 3: the birth certificate, not that he's qualified too, because he was.
Speaker 3: He was a ussistant for a long time, and he
Speaker 3: was born in Israel and moved here and lived here
Speaker 3: most of his life.
Speaker 1: But he believes that he could run for president here
Speaker 1: and we would win. I you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: about that. I think there's way too much of an underpinning.
Speaker 1: And you know what I think about this when I
Speaker 1: when I look at and listen to Bernie Sanders. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know the fact that he has that Jackie Mason
Speaker 1: esque cadence to his speech A little bit, you know,
Speaker 1: makes me think that there is definitely a hardcore base
Speaker 1: in this country that they wouldn't buy it if this
Speaker 1: guy even stole the election.
Speaker 2: You know, I do know.
Speaker 3: But but by nett Yeah, who I meant that. Not
Speaker 3: that I believe he would win, but Netton, now, who
Speaker 3: believes he would win. He's convinced that he would win. Here.
Speaker 3: And I know what you're saying. There is that kind
Speaker 3: of races and that kind of bigotry against the you know, Bernie,
Speaker 3: he's a Jew, you know. Yeah, And uh, you know,
Speaker 3: it's a good question.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1: You know, we're we're running a long time, and we're
Speaker 1: almost almost done here. And I give you, I give
Speaker 1: you my my estimation of what's going on with Trump.
Speaker 1: I think he's a lightning rod. I think he's been
Speaker 1: put into place to keep everybody busy. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the the clown before the elephants and the jackasses are
Speaker 1: presented for the children to pet as they go around
Speaker 1: the ring.
Speaker 2: Uh, That's what I think has happened here. And I
Speaker 2: really think that eventually we're going.
Speaker 1: To be confronted with uh, you know, possibly not Clinton,
Speaker 1: because she's put such a bad taste in the mouth
Speaker 1: of the majority of the American public and continues to
Speaker 1: do so with their elitist attitude, which is brazen I
Speaker 1: think in public. But you know, I think it's irrelevant
Speaker 1: because the Republican side of the equation is is due
Speaker 1: to occupy the office, and I figure that the selection still,
Speaker 1: even though everybody says I'm crazy, is is Jeb Bush
Speaker 1: and they're going to resurrect him weekend to Bernie's style
Speaker 1: and drag his campaign out and present him as the
Speaker 1: same choice after Donald Trump has already done all of
Speaker 1: his confetti throwing.
Speaker 3: And Seltzer bottle spray. Uh, that's really what I see here,
Speaker 3: and wondering how you see it. That's a possibility, okay,
Speaker 3: and it's a very serious possibility. And I think even
Speaker 3: Ron Paul was kind of to rub it in our
Speaker 3: face to say, hey, look, man, he won every debate.
Speaker 3: You all want him, We're not gonna let you have him.
Speaker 3: And they could be doing the same thing with Bernie
Speaker 3: ten times even more, just to rub it in our
Speaker 3: face because they're doing a lot of stuff like they
Speaker 3: made the pope quit, you know, to lose lose faith
Speaker 3: in the pope.
Speaker 1: You know, his brother or whatever wound up and broiled
Speaker 1: in that uh, you know, in that sex scandal. So
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that was meant to get ahead
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 3: Not sure I agree with him with that, tim you know,
Speaker 3: but but I think they wanted they want us to
Speaker 3: lose faith, faith in institutions. And just how they would
Speaker 3: put a guy named Obama, you know, who's you know,
Speaker 3: questionable background, whose name rhyme's with Osama bin laden public
Speaker 3: I made number one. But I don't think that's an
Speaker 3: accident in our coincidence either. But call me Charlie Brown, okay,
Speaker 3: and you can be Lucy, and I'm gonna run up
Speaker 3: and try and kick that ball this time. I think,
Speaker 3: you know, you can pull it away.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: But I think listen, I got a kid right now
Speaker 3: is very optimistic. This is our first election, and she's
Speaker 3: she's an idealistic right now. She thinks this is gonna happen.
Speaker 3: And I'm catching that kind of momentum and that kind
Speaker 3: of attitude. Now, Bernie saying some stuff. He's saying the
Speaker 3: right stuff at the rallies, you know. And and if
Speaker 3: not okay. If it all is all bred and surfaces,
Speaker 3: it's all a big act. It's all a big game.
Speaker 3: We can at least organize those people that show up
Speaker 3: to the rallies and hopefully in the future we can
Speaker 3: come up with a or even local candidates. You know
Speaker 3: that we can get some kind of a some kind
Speaker 3: of peace and justice in our lives. You know, we
Speaker 3: can't stop fighting in We got to keep resistant no
Speaker 3: matter what we You know, every bone in my body
Speaker 3: tells me that, otherwise I wouldn't be doing this right.
Speaker 1: And uh again, guys, Operamanreport dot com, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: and other places. I know you could catch some of
Speaker 1: the podcasts on Spreaker. I was a guest on your
Speaker 1: show recently. We talked about the jfk assassination. But believe me,
Speaker 1: uh Ed covers all the types of subjects that we
Speaker 1: talked about tonight, plus a whole lot of serious stuff
Speaker 1: on his shows.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, tell people other places they can
Speaker 3: find it. Oh, on Friday nights live it's on the
Speaker 3: Awake Radio Network Awake Radio dot US, Awake Radio dot UK,
Speaker 3: PSN Radio on Friday nights, then throughout the week as
Speaker 3: we played every day on the late night in the
Speaker 3: Midlands plays me on Tuesdays. Para X Radio plans on
Speaker 3: Saturday night seven pm, so it's easy to find, you know.
Speaker 3: I'm looking for a big station like AFR to bring
Speaker 3: me on there, you know, not Friday night because I
Speaker 3: know I got a great guy on there Friday night,
Speaker 3: but maybe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the same time slot I have.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, I know what, I wouldn't care
Speaker 3: how many listeners I lost you, man, because I think
Speaker 3: that's you got a great show and you're doing great stuff.
Speaker 3: And I love a guy that knows uh everything off
Speaker 3: the top of his head, you know. And I was
Speaker 3: growing you on JFK obscure stuff a lot of people
Speaker 3: think would be obscure, uh, And I really enjoyed that
Speaker 3: show burnt very much.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: People should look for it on speak or YouTube. It's
Speaker 3: up on YouTube, you know. Oh cool, I didn't know
Speaker 3: what's up on YouTube. Well, you know, I appreciate it, man,
Speaker 3: and any time you want me, I will definitely show up.
Speaker 3: Ed Opperman was my guest tonight, guys, and I appreciate
Speaker 3: all of you who tuned in.
Speaker 2: Don't forget