WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.919 --> 00:00:05.799 And guess what, you know, it's one of those days. 2 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:09.320 It's a Wednesday, not my usual days as I used 3 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:11.359 to broadcast, right, I used to do it on Tuesdays, 4 00:00:11.400 --> 00:00:14.359 Thursdays and Saturdays, So no more Saturday show. It is 5 00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:16.679 five days a week, and I do appreciate you for 6 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:18.559 tuning in, no matter who you are, where you are, 7 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:20.480 what time it is, of course it would be five 8 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:23.160 pm on the East coast or west coast, excuse me 9 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:26.719 of that same land mass I've already described, and God 10 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:28.600 knows what time it is wherever the hell you are, 11 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:32.039 and however you're listening, But either way you're appreciated. 12 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:32.560 Thank you. 13 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:36.359 So moving forward, you know, I take a look at 14 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:39.280 the news speeds every time before I go on my show, 15 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:41.359 no matter what time of day it is, no matter 16 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:43.640 what's subject I'm going to talk about, I look at 17 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:47.679 the news feeds, usually in disgust, and do that, right. 18 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:50.840 I also take a listen to my preparation music. I've 19 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:55.000 got a little ritual before I do this. But the 20 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:59.359 thing is, you know today what happened, well, Jay, we 21 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:02.880 have the release of those Sailors, which I told you 22 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:05.159 would happen precisely as it did. 23 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:07.560 Yesterday that you know, this whole. 24 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:09.879 Alarm over Iran has some of our sailors, and I 25 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:12.879 told you these guys very likely just kind of got lost, 26 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:15.599 and therefore we're taken most properly. 27 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:17.439 Into custody and then would be released to us quickly. 28 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:19.560 Told you yesterday that was the first time that I 29 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:22.560 actually believed something coming from a White House spokesperson in 30 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:23.719 a very very long time. 31 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:26.879 But then again, maybe I'm just a touch cynical. 32 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:30.560 See the show last night, Second Hour, want to hear 33 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:33.000 how cynical I am about these parties and the way 34 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:33.560 they speak. 35 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:35.519 Anyway back to. 36 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:38.239 It, you know, there really wasn't much else outside of 37 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:42.159 the parade of trump Ism, and god knows what else 38 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:45.359 you know being spread around. Did the South Carolina governor 39 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:48.840 go too far and calling out somebody who is besmirching 40 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:51.280 they're already quite smeared party, etc. 41 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:51.799 Etc. 42 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:55.079 I've got no use for either side of the alleged 43 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:57.200 two party system, as. 44 00:01:57.120 --> 00:01:58.400 You might be well aware. 45 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:01.799 But hey, it is entertainment after all, and it makes 46 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:04.239 a lot of sense that a reality star is still 47 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:05.840 polling quite high. 48 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:07.439 Although being threatened by Ted. 49 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:09.280 Cruz, who now has a birth issue of his own. 50 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:10.680 Etc. Etc. 51 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:14.479 Right, Ted Cruz to me is just one of these guys. 52 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:17.319 And I hate to do this, but because it sounds judgmental, 53 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:20.280 you know, he just he seems muppet like to me. 54 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:22.159 I don't know, maybe it's just me. 55 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:24.840 And maybe then again, one of those things I blurted 56 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:28.680 out while I was sitting there watching the television feed, 57 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:31.360 if you will, with my son earlier today, was a 58 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:33.879 year and a half old and only speaks in odd 59 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:37.159 collections of noises at this point. But you know, I 60 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:39.360 do make comments to him quite often when I'm not 61 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:41.560 on the air, and one of them was, you know, 62 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:43.879 just blurted it out off the top of my head. 63 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:47.560 Hillary is probably slipping in the poles, you know, by design, 64 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:51.439 because well, after all, you know, she is, as I've 65 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:54.560 said many times, probably one of the most despicable human 66 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:57.159 beings that there is in general, has left a bad 67 00:02:57.199 --> 00:02:59.439 taste in so many people's mouths. I don't think she's 68 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:02.000 ill anyway, no matter how much they show we're in 69 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:04.759 front of us, But for Bernie Sanders. 70 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:06.080 To be challenging you, what does that say? 71 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:09.120 And after all, I think one thing she could do 72 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:12.400 to improve her chances, although I don't really want to 73 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:16.199 give her advice is maybe adjust that very very pompous 74 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:16.960 looking hairdo. 75 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:18.319 That might help a little bit. 76 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:21.919 But hey, and that is the type of world we 77 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.919 live in at this point, because after all, the actual 78 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:27.280 substance of the individuals that are being presented to you 79 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:31.000 for the upcoming selection is really irrelevant, much. 80 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:32.439 As the office has become. 81 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:35.560 And much as the political system has become in general. Anyway, 82 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:38.800 enough of that, enough of the seriousness. I want to 83 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:41.199 have a good time tonight, and I brought on somebody 84 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:42.879 who I know I'm going to have a good time with. 85 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:46.000 I did last time we did this, and every time 86 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:47.759 I have a conversation with this guy or take a 87 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:49.879 listen to his show, no matter what he's talking about, 88 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:54.039 you know, I do actually enjoy it. It's one of 89 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:56.680 those things where we can get some information a little 90 00:03:56.680 --> 00:04:01.039 bit of entertainment as well. And you know, also a 91 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:04.680 smart guy who doesn't stand on all sorts of you know, 92 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:08.800 pomp circumstance in order to present you information and things 93 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:12.439 like that. So somebody I do appreciate Ed Opperman, who 94 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:15.400 is hard to describe as a guest, by the way, 95 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:19.040 because after all, he's a private investigator, a radio host. 96 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:23.439 He's done some writing now and then. Just really an interesting, 97 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:26.800 fascinating guy who I do have an affinity for. Also 98 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:29.639 because I don't know, I get this feeling than him 99 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:31.759 and I might have actually wandered through some of the 100 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:34.920 same streets at certain points in time, and I know 101 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.040 we've listened to some of the same radio stations and 102 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:40.560 things like that. And oddly enough, although he may not 103 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:44.240 agree with me at all politically, some of his sensibilities 104 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:47.519 do converge with mine on occasion. So Ed Opperman, the 105 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:50.199 guy who I have a difficulty describing, who you can 106 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:53.959 find at the Oppermanreport dot Com I believe is the 107 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:54.839 main place where. 108 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:55.920 We can go and get your stuff. 109 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:59.319 But you're also hurt on speaker and actually, tonight, I 110 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:03.040 think this dream is going out over speaker and iHeartRadio 111 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:06.439 and stuff as we speak, ed, how are you feeling tonight? 112 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:10.120 And sorry I rambled for so many minutes. No, I 113 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:12.600 enjoyed it, man, I liked a little rift there. 114 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:15.560 That's pretty cool. And I agree with you, man, you know, 115 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:18.519 I totally enjoy I just had you on the show 116 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:21.360 last week. We taked an hour. I think I wanted 117 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:23.079 to do like an hour and a half or two hours, 118 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:24.519 but I had to pick up my kid, had a 119 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:26.920 little emergency. I had to cut it short. But it 120 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:31.120 went so fast, you know, so enjoyable, great information, and 121 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:33.399 just like you said, if that seemed like it said 122 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:36.639 the East Coast banter, you know, like it's nice when 123 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:39.920 you're running to somebody from the Northeast, they kind of 124 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:41.600 gets your vibe and has that same kind of a 125 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:42.439 rhythm going. 126 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:44.879 Well, yeah it is. 127 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:46.959 You know, it's a good thing and it's a bad thing, 128 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:49.560 because I'll tell you one I'll tell you one very 129 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:53.560 interesting thing about that that always gets me is whenever 130 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:56.240 I leave the Northeast for a little while and then 131 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:59.759 go back to it, I have to get myself on 132 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:02.240 the round running again because there's sort of a high 133 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:06.759 tension atmosphere to the Northeast. At the same time, though 134 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:10.439 you have the most diverse culture, you know, some of 135 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.879 the greasiest stuff possible. You know, not just the food, 136 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:16.279 by the way, but some of the greasiest stuff I 137 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:19.199 mean emotionally politically. I mean, you know, when people started 138 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:22.439 talking nationally about oh, my Jersey politics is so dirty, 139 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:26.000 I went, yeah, because it's Jersey politics stupid. 140 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:29.560 But you know, and New York is. 141 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:34.480 And that's that's fascinating too, because you notice that was 142 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:38.839 Ted Cruz's big counter today to to the Donald, right, 143 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:41.959 is well, he's a New York guy, you know, which 144 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:44.920 is supposed to be a really derogatory thing, and it's 145 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:47.319 kind of like, well, yeah, he's a New York guy. 146 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:50.600 It is derogatory, But really, is it any different than 147 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:52.680 what's actually going on and the rest of the nation, 148 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:56.079 except maybe we talk a little faster, maybe the city's 149 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:59.600 a little dirtier and people don't notice, maybe things are 150 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:02.839 a little worse under the skin. But in truth, it's 151 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:06.199 also a more evolved and mature city than you find 152 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:08.720 in most of the United States, et cetera, et cetera. 153 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:11.399 So what are you talking about, Sed Cruz? 154 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:16.959 Right, But that'll play good in Iowa and New Hampshire 155 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:20.120 and North Carolina, you know, because because when it's like 156 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:22.120 what I call it the dog whistle, you know, if 157 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:25.040 he says new York, that practically means New York jew 158 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:28.199 some of those people down there, you know, when he's 159 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:31.240 tu me that New York attitude and that New York corruption, 160 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:35.959 you know, New York arrogance, you know, Donald Trump, so 161 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:37.439 I guess it'll play big down there. 162 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:41.319 And that's That's the funny thing about Trump too, is 163 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:45.639 that one thing he does embody certainly is that East 164 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:50.480 Coast kind of attitude, you know, because I'm gonna be bombastic. 165 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:52.800 I don't care. I'm gonna spit out whatever I want 166 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:53.839 to spit out, and you can. 167 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:54.519 Deal with it, you know. 168 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:57.399 And I got to give it to him for that, 169 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:00.560 even though I think he's a clown and absolutely and legitimate, 170 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:02.959 you know, candidate to hold any sort of office, and 171 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:05.680 I certainly don't want this guy representing me anywhere. 172 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:06.480 You know. 173 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:09.120 Sorry, maybe I'm still a little angry because I lived 174 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:11.959 near the uh you know, the the demolition zone that 175 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:14.600 was Atlantic City and know about his business and the 176 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:19.959 way things are conducted, and you know, but you can 177 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:23.759 see how uh you sort you sort of see how 178 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:26.600 that's abrasive to that to those areas of the country 179 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:29.399 where that is a dog whistle that does scream, you know, 180 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:34.159 uh jew and and also scary guy and also uh 181 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:37.960 you know, from the most dangerous, violent, crazy area possible, 182 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:39.000 et cetera, et cetera. 183 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:39.240 Too. 184 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:45.480 Right, Ope, I'm not. 185 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:49.799 Sure if ed can hear me, But sorry about that, 186 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:51.840 and I did go for a minute there and maybe 187 00:08:51.879 --> 00:08:55.879 I muted or something. Oh well, okay, But the thing 188 00:08:55.919 --> 00:09:01.000 about it is that it becomes a derogatory of characterization 189 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:04.200 in some parts of the country. Funny you mentioned North Carolina, 190 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:06.720 because that's where I'm sitting quite unfortunately at the moment. 191 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:09.840 But I do have a long enough memory to know 192 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:15.360 exactly what happens when Donald Trump's business acumen is applied 193 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:18.200 to a local community, so far as Atlantic City goes. 194 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.360 You know, hey, Chuck, have you been to one of 195 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:21.279 these Trump rallies? 196 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:23.480 Physically? 197 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:28.120 No, you gotta do it, Okay, I went down. I've 198 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:29.799 covered a couple of Bernie rallies, and as a matter 199 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:32.799 of fact, I'm gonna have Bernie on my show. I'm 200 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:34.840 gonna get twenty minutes with Bernie Sanders and he's gonna 201 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:37.639 be on my show. I'm gonna do an interview with them. Yeah, 202 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:40.600 I know, I'm really stoked. We just worked on this yesterday. 203 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.559 But I've been to a couple of Bernie rallies. I've 204 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:45.279 been to three of them, and I've been to one 205 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:49.679 Trump rally here in Vegas. And the Trump rally is 206 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:54.720 they don't quite describe it on TV. The way it 207 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:57.840 really is. These are really really old people, a lot 208 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:00.600 of people with disabilities, a lot of people that are 209 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:03.720 shut ins. When you walk in there, you get a 210 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.080 very nervous feeling right away. And the rally is not 211 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:09.679 run by campaign staff like you would have at a 212 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:13.080 regular rally. It's run by Trump's New York City security 213 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.279 guys that he brought with him from New York City. 214 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:15.559 You know. 215 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:18.000 You can spot these guys and they run the whole thing, 216 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:21.519 and it's like a that's like how he'll run the 217 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:25.159 country with using the cops, using cops and thugs and 218 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:29.600 goons to control us. Yeah, I know, man, and I 219 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:32.480 don't I figure right now? Trump has no respect for 220 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:35.480 that crowd that shows up at his rallies, okay, because 221 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:38.320 I've known this guy for for a long long time 222 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:41.399 from coming from New York, you know, and he has 223 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:43.519 no respect for the kind of to him, they're all 224 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:46.399 losers when he looks out at that audience, So he 225 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:47.559 has no respect for them at all. 226 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:50.440 Well, that's the amazing thing to me, really is that 227 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:52.919 so many people are gravitating to him because you know, 228 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:56.879 they think he's speaking from their point of view, you know, 229 00:10:57.000 --> 00:11:00.320 and and I don't know how how crazy that it is, 230 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:02.360 you know, like how you can even begin to make 231 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:04.799 that leap that that this is a guy who could 232 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:09.279 represent anybody else sitting in that audience, because he's on 233 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:10.399 a totally different level. 234 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:11.200 He always has been. 235 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:13.240 I mean, you want to talk about an elitist, Yeah, 236 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:17.039 he's again a little more greasy than your usual elitist. 237 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:19.440 I want to talk more about Bernie Sanders though, by 238 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:23.279 the way, before I forget, but finishing up on Trump, 239 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:26.720 I mean this guy personality wise. I'm not saying appearance wise, 240 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:27.799 and I'm not even gonna pick. 241 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:28.320 On his hairdoob. 242 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.960 But the thing is just looking at him and just 243 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:34.279 watching the way that he's behaved over the years. He's 244 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:37.519 an elitist, but with kind of a kind of a 245 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:38.679 greasy bent to him. 246 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:41.519 You know what I mean. I know exactly what you mean. 247 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:45.279 And you know, people from New York, we know about 248 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:48.080 Trump University, which was a total con game. It was 249 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:51.639 a total scam where he sets up a telet marketing 250 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:55.240 company basically he calls a Trump University, and a couple 251 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:58.159 of these people got scammed at a thirty thousand dollars 252 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:01.720 to become students. Of Trump University, and every time they 253 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:03.639 bought a course, all they got was more phone calls. 254 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:06.600 And it's telemarketers to get them to buy more courses. 255 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:09.200 Yeah right. It was shut down by the New York 256 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.600 State Attorney General because it was a scam. You can't 257 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:15.159 just you can't start Chuck O'Kelly University and start a college. 258 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:19.120 You gotta have some background, get a licensing and stuff that. Okay, 259 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:23.039 you can't start Chuck ocelly Medical Center. You know, I'm 260 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:25.919 a doctor now because I incorporated Chuck O'Kelly Medical Center. 261 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:29.080 You know, he just can't do that kind of stuff. 262 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:32.240 But this guy does it and nobody calls him on it. Then, 263 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.039 when they had that thing going on, remember they missed 264 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:37.039 you at Mississippi University where the guy was doing the 265 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:40.360 hunger strike. Yeah, Trump comes out and he goes on TV. 266 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:43.080 He goes, if I was president of that university, then 267 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:45.279 I would put a stop to that right away. That's 268 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:48.200 how I would run a university. He did running a university, 269 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:50.840 but nobody calls him on it. He ran a university. 270 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:56.159 It was shutdown because it was a scam, but he 271 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.840 got falls the size of a can come. This guy 272 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:02.240 he's a constantly con man who gets up there. 273 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:03.240 He has no shame. 274 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:05.799 He repeats it over and over and over again like 275 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.320 a peachy barnum. He knows he's a sucker born every 276 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:10.240 minute and he's got he's got this country. And to 277 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:14.159 promise him, oh my thoughts getting they're coming in the room, 278 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:15.840 he had to tie me down, tell me to calm down. 279 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:17.600 It's okay, it's okay. 280 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:20.480 We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll dial it back just a little. 281 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:23.759 But I mean, yeah, you know, two funny things that 282 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:25.679 I noticed, by the way, just this evening, I think 283 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:29.000 it was Aaron Burnett had him on a phone conversation 284 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:31.279 where they were going over some of the stuff going on, 285 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:33.720 and uh, you know, and he turns around in his 286 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:35.879 you know, Trump like fashion and says, how many times 287 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:36.960 do I got to repeat myself? 288 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:38.039 I've already said it twice? 289 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:41.200 And uh, and she just flipped back at him real quick, 290 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:43.879 well three times would probably work, you know, And I went, wow, 291 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.600 that was that was pretty funny, because that that's the 292 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:49.240 most backhanded little bit of sarcasm I've seen a mainstream 293 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:52.480 reporter give him in a while. And interestingly enough, when 294 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:54.480 he starts talking about business and how well I run 295 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:57.039 a business and all these other things. You know, somebody 296 00:13:57.039 --> 00:14:01.080 did remind him of his bankruptcies during one of the debates, 297 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:01.600 remember that. 298 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:04.519 Yeah, but even that's a softball because look at his 299 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:07.840 connections to the convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. 300 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.639 Yeah, I know, because it. 301 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:13.840 Really irks me. It really does bug me because I 302 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:15.159 got a kid about the same age as one of 303 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:18.480 his victims. You know, this girl, Virginia Roberts, you know, 304 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:22.039 she worked for Trump when she was picked up by 305 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:25.600 Jeffrey Empstein's pimp who was brought to Epstein's. How she 306 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:27.919 was inlested by Epstein, passed around to people at Prince 307 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:30.600 Andrew and stuff like that. She worked for Trump. A 308 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:32.600 lot of this activity going on with this girl was 309 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:34.559 being molested in these other girls, up the three girls 310 00:14:34.559 --> 00:14:38.240 a day, according to this guy's butler, were being molested 311 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:41.279 at Jeffrey Epstein's Palm Beach home, but a lot of 312 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:45.360 it went on at mar A Lago. Prince Andrew and Epstein. 313 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:47.919 These guys would hang out down at Mari Lanco, which is, 314 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:49.960 by the way, is Trump's home when he's down in Florida. 315 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:53.000 That's where he lives in this resort. So and it 316 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:57.240 a press does not touch that. And it blows my 317 00:14:57.240 --> 00:14:59.000 mind because here you got all these candidates. You got 318 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:01.360 Clinton involved in it, scannal, he got Jeff Bush involved 319 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:03.200 in a scandal. He got Trump involved in a scandal. 320 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:06.519 But nobody talks about it but Trump. So in your face, 321 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:10.679 the consummate, khan Man, he'll stand up there and say 322 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:14.879 about the Ben Carson. Oh, Ben Carson, he said he 323 00:15:14.960 --> 00:15:18.600 stabbed somebody. He says, that's a that's a psychopath and 324 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:22.440 that's incurable. It's like a child molester. It can't be cured. 325 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:25.639 He brings it up, he brings it up, and he 326 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:26.519 gets away with it. 327 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:31.240 Well, yeah, what's amazing to me too, is that is 328 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:34.159 that this is you know, I realize that it's tailor 329 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:38.159 made for the TV people, right because they've been slipping 330 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:41.759 in the ratings. They couldn't sell you know, I still 331 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:44.720 contend we're looking at a Bush candidacy that's going to 332 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:47.600 be resurrected, but they couldn't sell that. That would not 333 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:51.840 get them TV ratings. Okay, there's no way that you know, 334 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:55.279 if they just berated Bush and Hillary excuse me, Hillary 335 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:58.080 in front of us all the time. Nobody would want 336 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:00.279 to watch. I mean, nobody wants to stare at yet 337 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:05.320 another Bush. And you know, and Hillary's put him okay 338 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:08.279 already all day long. Nobody wants to look at that anymore. 339 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:10.559 It's not going to bring in the ratings. But this Trump, 340 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:13.320 with all the things he says, which nobody calls him 341 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:16.080 on any of it. Every five seconds he says something 342 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:19.480 that somebody should be calling him on, like excuse me, 343 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:22.159 but that's not exactly the way you should conduct yourself 344 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:24.799 if you're seeking to be president. Remember there used to 345 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:27.720 be that standard of you know, you had to conduct 346 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:32.000 yourself a certain way, you use the incorrect terminology, and 347 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:36.360 people would jump on you regarding anything right. And this 348 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:40.519 guy is completely counterintuitive to all of that, and nobody 349 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:42.200 calls him on any of it. Nobody calls him on 350 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:45.080 his past, Nobody calls him on you know, gee, you know, 351 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:49.480 I see morality problems with people and women. This guy 352 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:53.519 was philandering on his wife, and you know, I've heard 353 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.159 lots of other things that I can't verify about the guy. 354 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:59.440 But the thing is, you and I both know there 355 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:01.720 is as puny of stuff that could be dug up. 356 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:05.880 If there was a reporter that really wanted to crucify 357 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:07.960 this guy in the press, and nobody's doing. 358 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:11.160 It, okay, just the fact that he had three marriages alone, 359 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:14.000 and these three failed marriages. And by the way, just 360 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:15.720 to give you an idea of how far back I 361 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:19.319 go with Trump. When he was cheating with Marla Maples 362 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:23.759 against Evonna Trump and the press first found out about it, 363 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:26.200 we were out one night, a sad dated a lot 364 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:28.640 of flight attendants at the time, and we're out one 365 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:30.440 night and they said to me, he says, you never 366 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.200 believe who was at our house, hiding at our apartment 367 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:36.319 in Manhattan. And I said, oh, they said, Marla Maples. 368 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:38.400 Marla Maples showed up in the middle of the night 369 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:39.960 with a garbage bag full of her clothes and she's 370 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:42.160 hiding out that our apartment. She's hiding from the paparazzi. 371 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:45.759 So I said, did I tell the story before? No, 372 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:46.880 I never heard this before. 373 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:49.200 Good, So I. 374 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:52.720 Said, purely as a joke, I said, well, let's tap 375 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:56.319 the phones and we could sell it to the National Inquiry. Okay. 376 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:00.799 So we never tapped the phones, but as a joke. 377 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:03.559 So I told the joke later on to some guys 378 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:06.119 who were involved with Trump, one of his private investigators 379 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:09.599 and stuff. And I told him this joke, and the 380 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:12.839 joke must have got back to Trump, okay, because I'm 381 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:15.480 convinced that he had a whole file put together on 382 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.759 me because I ran into him at the US Open 383 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:21.720 one time okay years later too, by the way, and 384 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:24.720 he was we were about a rocks throw away from 385 00:18:24.759 --> 00:18:27.599 each other, but this guy stood up facing away for 386 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:30.960 the tennis court staring at me for about a good 387 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:34.759 half hour, go blowing daggers at me. After this whole 388 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:38.119 scene there at the US Open also too. You know, 389 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:39.839 I sold my condo in New York to one of 390 00:18:39.880 --> 00:18:43.359 Trump's bodyguards. So it's a small world. It's a very 391 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:45.119 small world. And I've had a lot of contact with 392 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:46.319 these characters. 393 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:49.960 Yeah, right, And you know, and he does employ a 394 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:52.319 lot of guys that are that are private investigators and 395 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:55.440 stuff like that. I remember being amazed at that, Remember 396 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:58.599 when when he was really trying to get to get 397 00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:03.720 himself deep into the world of boxing, Right, I knew 398 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:06.279 people that worked, you know, in that kind of business, 399 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:09.920 in promotion, in uh, you know, it's what would you 400 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:12.799 call it at this point, like production, except for live 401 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:16.400 events things like that, live event planners and promoters. You know, 402 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:20.000 before the days of the internet, it was a little different, right, 403 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:23.680 And this guy had a habit of doing that, you know, 404 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:28.519 this intimidating stare, which to me woke laughter, you know, 405 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:31.480 because he looked like a I don't know how to 406 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:33.680 describe it, except maybe like a six month old baby 407 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:36.000 with gas. As he started getting older, when he would 408 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:38.480 give you this evil eye, like the Trump evil eye that. 409 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:41.480 Used to call it all it well back in those 410 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:44.160 days when when when Tyson was doing all the fights 411 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:48.319 at the Trump properties in the Atlantic City, Tyson hired 412 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:52.160 Bo Deedle as his head of security and Bodel had 413 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:55.400 a five hundred thousand a year contract doing Mike Tyson security. 414 00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:56.920 Because I used to hang out with Bo back in 415 00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:59.000 those days. Every single night at the Durro Land. We 416 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:01.359 would drink up until seven am. 417 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:04.000 Listen. 418 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:06.200 And I love Bo Needle by the way, because here's 419 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:09.359 another guy, but see bows a little different because when 420 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:13.000 he speaks, he doesn't care about what anybody hears or 421 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:14.920 what anybody you know what I mean. When he decides 422 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:17.279 to make a statement, he makes a statement. I love 423 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:19.599 that guy, by the way. Just so you know, you 424 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:20.400 know what, I love. 425 00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:22.519 Him too, and he is politically hung by the balls. 426 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:25.519 You have no idea that could he's a billionaire now, 427 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:28.480 you know, as a police commissioner when he's a p 428 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:31.000 I firm. So and I got a picture of me 429 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:33.640 and Bow on my wall. Uh but so Bo had 430 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:35.880 the contract to do Mike Times and Security. 431 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:36.799 Okay. 432 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:40.319 And the rumor going around, and it's even in one 433 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:43.200 of the books too, that Trump was sleeping with the 434 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:50.640 tyson's wife. Yeah, yeah, that what's going on? Man? No 435 00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:52.759 one talks about that guy's running for president. 436 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:55.599 Well, you know, he's gonna do more for women, uh, 437 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:58.039 you know, than than than Hillary ever, could you. 438 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:01.960 Know, Chersey, that's why people the Miss t USA pageant 439 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:05.240 had the Miss USA pageant and had it all moved 440 00:21:05.279 --> 00:21:07.839 down to Trump properties. I wonder what's going on with that, 441 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:10.519 because you know what, there's an article too with this 442 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:12.279 guy who hung out with Trump for a few months 443 00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:13.880 and when he was just about to get divorced from 444 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:17.680 Marla Maples, and Marla was making comments like, oh, you 445 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:24.279 should buy another pageant. That's right up your alley. As 446 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:27.000 you know, the rumors about the Plaza hotel in New 447 00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:29.240 York City. You can get a membership and his floors 448 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:31.000 on there. All kind of fun stuff is going on. 449 00:21:31.400 --> 00:21:33.160 So you know, this has all been going on for 450 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:35.359 years and years and years with Trump. You know, this 451 00:21:35.599 --> 00:21:39.519 character makes me sick the tato shoot. No, absolutely, And 452 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:41.039 I mean coming from that and. 453 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:43.279 Knowing that stuff, and like I said, I wasn't as 454 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:45.279 close to some of these things as you were, but 455 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:46.640 I saw the fallout of it. 456 00:21:46.680 --> 00:21:48.240 You know, I knew some of the people. 457 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:51.240 That made their living working in Atlantic City, and even 458 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:54.519 with the protection of the alleged unions and everything else, 459 00:21:54.559 --> 00:21:57.519 they still got screwed over. Every time, you know, Trump 460 00:21:57.519 --> 00:22:00.400 made a move. It seemed like in one way or another, 461 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:02.440 they would shuffle these guys, push them out, do all 462 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:04.000 kinds of weird things to them. 463 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:04.440 Uh. 464 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:07.720 You know, his employees, the people that you know are 465 00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:10.799 the majority of those. He would wind up representing those 466 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:14.640 type of people, real blue collar human beings always got 467 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:17.000 screwed in the shuffle every time this guy made a move. 468 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:21.119 And uh, it's just amazing to me that anybody in 469 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:22.960 America took this guy seriously. 470 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:26.519 Yeah, he always stiffed the contractors. Okay, that that's those 471 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:28.640 are well known stories, and he stiffed those contractors and 472 00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:31.599 all those workers. But he stuck. He stuck it to 473 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:35.400 the chunk behind guys on Wall Street. One time he 474 00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:37.920 bought a property and he got them to sign a 475 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:39.839 personal note that he didn't he didn't they didn't have 476 00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:42.200 a lean against the property. And then he just said, 477 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:44.799 I'm not paying it. We got to settle. I'm not 478 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:46.519 paying it. You don't have you don't have a lean 479 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:48.680 on me, you know, take me to court. And they 480 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:52.000 settled on pennies on the dollars. Uh. There was another 481 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:53.720 thing too, Uh, But. 482 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:55.920 That was part of his normal business practice to turn 483 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:58.720 around and settle, you know, for pennies later after stiffing 484 00:22:58.759 --> 00:22:59.559 somebody on a bill. 485 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:01.839 I mean, and we're not speaking out of school here. 486 00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:05.640 There is a a huge trail of evidence that anybody 487 00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:09.119 can find if they want right now to you know, 488 00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:12.039 follow through on all that stuff. That's actually part of 489 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:14.440 his normal business practices, right. 490 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:16.359 And they even brag about it. And in one of 491 00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:20.279 their defenses, they had a Condo U two kind of 492 00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:23.000 scam going on where they were people were investing money, 493 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:25.799 and part of their defense in the loss it was, well, 494 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:28.480 anybody that's done business with us. No, this is how 495 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:32.720 we operate. I look at the daughter Tulavaka was involved 496 00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:35.720 in that. Yeah, that's what her thing was. Anybody's done 497 00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:37.279 it was business with us. No, this is that we 498 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:40.440 do it. Yeah, and that that's where I got to 499 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:40.960 give it to him. 500 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:43.079 Is at the very least, you know, he's not making 501 00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:46.440 bones about it, you know, like I said, it's kind 502 00:23:46.440 --> 00:23:48.640 of interesting because it matches with the attitude of like 503 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:50.720 I said, Roger Stone, who was on my show, right, 504 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:53.640 you know, he doesn't make any bones about who he is. 505 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:56.079 You know, it's like, yeah, that's right on a hashet man. 506 00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:56.839 So what of it? 507 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:01.279 You know, it's like, okay, great, you know, at least 508 00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:02.039 you're being honest. 509 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:05.799 But on another level, Sorry. 510 00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:08.480 I'm sorry, I'm gonna blow any chance I'll ever have 511 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:09.960 of getting Rogers thrown on my show. 512 00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:10.319 Now. 513 00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:12.519 But did you get a chance to ask him about 514 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:13.880 his connections with Al Sharpton? 515 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:15.680 No? I did not. 516 00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:20.000 Oh yeah, because you know he was the campaign manager 517 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:25.039 when Al Sharpton was running for president. Oh wow, I 518 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:28.359 was not aware of that. Really. Yeah. There's a great 519 00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:32.000 series of articles in the Village Voice, and I've tried 520 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:33.799 to get all of these reporters on my show. I 521 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:35.400 can't get one of them to come on and talk 522 00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:38.400 about this. And it's called Al Sharpton and the GOP. 523 00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:41.079 And he was totally in the bed with the GOP. 524 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:46.920 He even got Martin Luther King's widow, Correta Scott King, 525 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:53.079 to George Bush's box at the inauguration. 526 00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:55.839 He broke Wait a minute, he's responsible for that. 527 00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:58.640 He broke that deal as part of a payoff with 528 00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:02.079 Al the motto it's not fresh on my mind. And plus, 529 00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:04.119 you know the whole thing about him being an FBI asset, 530 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:06.920 of working for the FBI, Well, yeah. 531 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:09.920 I've heard all about that, and uh again, don't don't 532 00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:10.920 find it unbelievable. 533 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:14.519 He's never gonna cop to that, you know, oh directly. 534 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:19.160 It's it's, it's, it's in the it's there's a great 535 00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:23.440 series of an expos in the Smokinggun dot com. Okay 536 00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:28.359 about it's in FBI documents and court cases that he 537 00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:33.599 was the source going around wiretapping people, that he had 538 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:36.960 a phone in his apartment that was a red phone 539 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:39.440 that when it picked up, the FBI heard it live 540 00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:42.960 for every conversation on that phone that he was walking 541 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:46.559 around with his briefcase with the tape recorder. In the briefcase, 542 00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:49.200 I'm convinced that I'm on those tapes because I knew 543 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:51.000 I'll show up in very well from the time I 544 00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:54.960 was seventeen years old until I was about I guess 545 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.359 about twenty twenty one, twenty two in the PI business. 546 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.200 But how Sharpton was an FBI asset working for the FBI. 547 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:05.839 It's documented, there's no doubt about it. He made cases 548 00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:07.480 against organized crime in New York City. 549 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:10.960 Yeah, Sharpton was informing on all sorts of OC guys, 550 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:14.960 you know, for a long time. There was a joke 551 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:17.359 going around last year where we were describing him by 552 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:20.000 his informant number on air a lot. 553 00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:20.799 Of course. 554 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.279 I was also thrown in the commentary that nowadays he 555 00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:25.920 looks a little strange on TV, because you know, I 556 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:30.000 remember Al Sharpton with the track suits, you know, and 557 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:33.799 going around, you know, like we're talking Crown Heights, We're 558 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:35.799 talking Hey, Tawana Brawl. 559 00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:37.839 You remember that name, you know. 560 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:41.079 Back in those days, right, this guy was a totally 561 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:43.400 different character than you see now on MSNBC. 562 00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:46.880 Vegan. Now he's a vegan, so he lost a lot 563 00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:50.039 of weight. Yeah, but you know, also to I interviewed 564 00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:52.319 the woman. I forgot her name off the top of 565 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:55.160 my head right now, but who was raped by the 566 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.920 Godfather's soul, James Brown. And she has no love lost 567 00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:00.880 for alf Sharpton because they would be buddies, those two. 568 00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:05.079 And her whole story is, uh, you know, James Brown's 569 00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:09.680 downfall on all that PCP coincided with visits with Sharpton, 570 00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:14.599 and so that's that's a Jackie Hollander is her name, 571 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:19.279 great guest man and uh, yeah, no. 572 00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:21.279 I forgot about you know, I forgot about her because 573 00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:24.799 you know, since since James is gone, you know, it's 574 00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:26.519 sort of like I've sort of let that kind of 575 00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:27.480 stuff out of my head. 576 00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:28.519 But yeah, I remember that. 577 00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:31.960 Uh. I remember the days when when he was fighting 578 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:35.640 with Innis what's his name on uh Morton Downey Junior's 579 00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:38.319 TV show. Remember that they got into that shoving match 580 00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:42.319 and he uh it was a Roy Innis right, Yeah, 581 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.319 and uh, of course because that was filmed in New Jersey, 582 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:47.400 uh at the time, you know, comes out of the 583 00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:50.359 New York area. Everybody forgets about Morton Downey Junior nowadays, 584 00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:52.519 But believe me, it was like Jerry Springer long before 585 00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:55.839 Jerry Springer, and you had an angry host on top 586 00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:56.200 of it. 587 00:27:57.559 --> 00:27:59.920 You know. That's the best way I could have could 588 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:00.559 describe it. 589 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:02.759 To somebody who's never heard of Morton Downey Junior before 590 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.000 but probably won't remember Ron Paul. 591 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.079 Yes, Ron Paul was on the was on the Morton 592 00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:16.119 Downey Junior Show nowization Yeah, yeah, for god, what year 593 00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:17.880 was that eighty eight? Yeah? 594 00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:19.599 Those are the days, man. Yeah. 595 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.440 I mean a lot of interesting stuff came out of 596 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:24.880 New York and the New York area back then, and 597 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:28.079 Sharpton was definitely one of those characters of interest. I 598 00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:31.000 was not aware that Roger Stone had any connection to 599 00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:31.640 Sharpton though. 600 00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:33.400 I that totally missed me. 601 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:36.079 I had not put two and two together either until 602 00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.480 one night someone grabbed me and says, ed, you realize 603 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:42.079 that's the same Roger Stone, don't you? And then I said, 604 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:43.440 then I looked into it that I says, yeah, it's 605 00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:45.319 the same guy. He's Trump's buddy. 606 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:45.480 Man. 607 00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:47.440 They got pictures name of one of the Trump's rally. 608 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.440 He's got the black guy down on the ground, he's 609 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:50.000 kicking him. 610 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:53.759 And for a while he was part of the Trump campaign, 611 00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:58.039 but they parted ways right now. I believe and I 612 00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:02.720 got hints, you know, Will talking to him that that honestly, 613 00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:04.839 he's an off the books advisor at this point, I 614 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:08.920 think to the Trump campaign, you know, and and that 615 00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:12.960 tells you something, because Roger Stone is bombastic. I mean, 616 00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:16.440 he definitely, uh you know, is not somebody who's holding 617 00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.599 his tongue and trying to be politically correct either. 618 00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:21.920 But let's not. 619 00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:23.160 Make it all about Roger Stone. 620 00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:25.720 And I want to get him on my show. Probably 621 00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:26.599 never happened now, but. 622 00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:29.559 No, if you. 623 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:31.839 Don't know, I'll give you the publicist, the contact. I'll 624 00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:32.400 help you out with that. 625 00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:38.880 But uh, it's but it's an interesting array of characters. 626 00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:42.640 And again I stand back and disbelieve that this guy 627 00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.680 is still being taken seriously after the wreckage that he caused, 628 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:49.000 you know, with his own business practices, after his own 629 00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:53.319 character remember the whole character matters, you know, kind of 630 00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:56.319 a thematic thing that went through politics for the longest time. 631 00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.720 Where are all those people? I don't know? And this 632 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.440 is with with Trump. It's so extreme, just the fact 633 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:05.960 that his first news conference is first when he declass 634 00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:09.079 of his presidency. They're all actors. Yeah, he hires these 635 00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:11.119 extras for fifty dollars apiece to come there and be 636 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:13.920 his cheering crowd. And then the first thing out of 637 00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:18.839 his mouth is that all Mexicans are rapists. How do 638 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:20.359 you get away with that stuff? 639 00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:21.599 Man? How do you get away with it? 640 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:25.200 He's doubling down on it even today, still talking about, 641 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:27.440 you know, the sixty five year old woman. She would 642 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:29.039 agree that we got to do something about, you know, 643 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:31.359 the sixty five year old woman who is unfortunately a 644 00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:34.400 veteran who was raped, sodomized, and murdered, you know, by 645 00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:39.759 some illegal immigrant allegedly, right, that whole thing. He goes, well, 646 00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:41.880 you know, she would disagree. She would definitely agree with 647 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:49.119 me on my immigration policies. And it's like, what, you know, Wow, 648 00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:52.400 I'm in disbelief over it. You know, even if you 649 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:54.920 think that way. I mean, it's gotten to the point where, 650 00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:57.720 you know, he has to disavow. Now the robocall coming 651 00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:01.279 from the what is that the National White Power Party 652 00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:04.319 or whatever the hell that's trying to encourage Trump votes 653 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:05.319 over the phone, right. 654 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.240 Well, yeah, he's well, you know his dad, you know, 655 00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:11.440 we kind of broke that story. I had Aj Webman 656 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:13.680 on the show the day that AJ found out that 657 00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.039 Trump's dad was busted at a KKK rally in nineteen 658 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:20.720 thirty in New York City. And if you read the flyer, 659 00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:23.720 because it's from the New York Times, it was like 660 00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.599 June thirtieth, nineteen thirty, when I can twenty nine, something 661 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.160 like that, and Fred Trump was busted at a KKK round, 662 00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:32.559 one of the leaders. And if you read the flyer 663 00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:34.880 from the rally, it's the same stuff he says, now, 664 00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:40.240 you know, the nativist kind of stuff right right. 665 00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:44.400 And gets away with all sorts of statements that nobody challenges. Now, 666 00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:48.359 I unfortunately had to sort of agree with the idea 667 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:51.799 that you know, when he said that Hillary you know, 668 00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:56.480 created isis Well, she's not the creator, but she definitely 669 00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.319 assisted in the encouragement, you know, in my estimation. But 670 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:03.799 then again, I'm a crazy conspiracy theorist. He passes things 671 00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.119 like this along and nobody even bets an. 672 00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:13.519 I yeah, I know, I know what you're saying. I 673 00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:15.279 don't know what to say, man, I don't know what 674 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:17.400 to say. It's but but the thing is, if you 675 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:19.599 had him on your show, would you ask him those questions? 676 00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:19.720 You know? 677 00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:21.599 Probably not, because you still you want them to come on. 678 00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.799 You don't want them to hang up. You know, if 679 00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:26.440 you're there at the rally, you got a chance to 680 00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:27.960 answer my question. You don't want to get beat up 681 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:29.920 and kicked out of there. You know. 682 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:31.680 You know what, I don't think I would do it 683 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:33.640 in person, but I'll tell you what I did. Try 684 00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:35.279 and reach out to him to get him on the show. 685 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.039 And uh, and and I and and and the offer 686 00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:40.480 is open, by the way, if Donald Trump wants to 687 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:42.799 come on and talk to somebody who's completely disgusted with 688 00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:44.000 both political parties. 689 00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:46.640 Uh, you know you're you're. 690 00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:49.000 Actually absolutely you have an open invite and I'll cancel 691 00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.200 whatever show if you want to come on. Okay, So 692 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:56.680 anybody who who hears that I leave the door open, 693 00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:59.039 I will have that discussion with him, and believe me, 694 00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:00.160 I'll ask him a lot of these. 695 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.240 Questions that you know that I'm firing at you. So 696 00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:05.240 I hope he doesn't want to come on tonight. I'll 697 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:05.759 get bumped. 698 00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:09.039 Well, I'll keep you on. You can stay with me. 699 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:12.079 You know, I doubt imagine him walking into a show 700 00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:13.960 with you and me that would that would not work 701 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:20.599 for it. So what we're gonna ask about Bernie. Oh 702 00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:24.240 so you know Bernie Sanders. Okay, now here's the thing. 703 00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:27.400 I'm gonna be honest with you here. I I'm registered 704 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.799 as a libertarian. I don't believe I'm going to vote 705 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:33.759 because at this point in time, I feel as though, 706 00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:35.839 you know, the whole thing has already been rigged, it's 707 00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:36.599 been selected. 708 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:38.160 What I do is irrelevant. 709 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:40.680 That's that's the kind of attitude I have, And I 710 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:43.880 know some people pick on me for it. But the 711 00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:47.680 truth is that if I took what these candidates said 712 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:51.640 at face value from either side of the alleged you know, 713 00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:53.799 two sided coin that you know, I still say is 714 00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:57.440 the Purple Party here in America. The fact is that 715 00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.519 the two guys that I would even consider would be 716 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:05.160 Bernie Sanders and John Kasik. Okay, those would be the 717 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.599 guys I would if those two actually rose in the 718 00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:12.880 polls and were presented as the alleged choices, I would 719 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:15.280 actually vote. And I have not pulled a lever for 720 00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.000 a presidential candidate since the day I pulled the one 721 00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:20.079 for a guy named Clinton. 722 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.079 Okay, I know it sounds like an AA meeting. 723 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:25.159 Hi, my name is Chuck, and I voted for Bill Clinton. 724 00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:30.000 But The thing is that among the candidates that are 725 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.280 out there, these two are actually speaking about things that matter. 726 00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:35.960 They're not going out there. 727 00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:41.679 And just making these statements based on a political elitism. 728 00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:44.239 At all times, right in my estimation. 729 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:48.079 But when I said on the show, that excuse me 730 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.320 that a guy like Bernie Sanders, who says that, you know, 731 00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:54.800 he wants to do things for the country, that he 732 00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:57.599 wants to take care of people here, that he thinks that, 733 00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:01.559 you know, interventionism, it's not the way to go, and 734 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:03.599 stuff like that. I don't object to. 735 00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:05.760 Those kind of positions that he's taken. 736 00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:09.440 And he's actually addressing the economic woes that we're dealing 737 00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:14.880 with domestically, Okay, unlike everybody else who's got a platform 738 00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:21.360 to speak at this point in my estimation, Yeah, I agree. 739 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.360 With you, man. And for years and years and years, 740 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:26.039 I've been saying, it doesn't matter who's like it, because 741 00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:29.440 they have no power, you know, and the presence just 742 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.960 a puppet. They have no power. And I would talk 743 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:34.239 like Cynthia McKinney, you know, and I said, does it 744 00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:36.800 really matter? And they would be, oh, yeah, we just 745 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.960 need to vote out the rascals, you know. And I 746 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:41.800 had Cindy Shehan on the show and Danny Shean and 747 00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:44.320 all these dealing. Danny Sheen was in part of Jim 748 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.000 Carter's transition team, and they would say, oh no, yeah, 749 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:48.679 we can bring back the left, and we can bring 750 00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:50.840 it back the left and the Democratic Party and get 751 00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.079 really good programs going. And I never believed that until 752 00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:57.880 I started going to these burning rallies because I'm a socialist. 753 00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.320 I'm a real socialist man. I think I look at 754 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:05.360 the Hugo Chavis with a suspicious eye. I can't, Wow, 755 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:10.000 he's not left it up for of a okay, And yeah, no, 756 00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:13.639 I'm I'm dude. I'm a revolutionary man from the seventies, 757 00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.239 the yippies and the Lower East Side, you know. And 758 00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.000 I've gotten my head beat in, you know. And that's 759 00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:22.119 how I think we need to We need real left 760 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:25.440 in this country. It's like the Black Panthers, you know, 761 00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:26.400 that kind of stuff. 762 00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:30.199 No, and you know what, emotionally and on some see, 763 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:34.320 here's the thing I'm weird in that I absolutely believe that. 764 00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:35.480 You know, First of all, the. 765 00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.760 Black Panthers have always been mischaracterized anyway. Uh, these were 766 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.199 individuals that were, you know, doing things like feeding breakfast 767 00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:44.719 to kids in local neighborhoods and stuff like that. Believed 768 00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:48.320 in self defense, believed in no longer being trounced upon. 769 00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:51.400 And I can't argue with them. Okay, that's the way 770 00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:53.239 I see them. And I think that they were absolutely 771 00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:56.039 destroyed by j Edgar Hoober and co Intel pro and 772 00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:57.400 you know, take a look. 773 00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:59.719 At the the the the. 774 00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:02.679 Decimation of the like Fred Hampton and individuals like that. 775 00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:08.239 I mean, they were absolutely feasted upon by a tyrannical 776 00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:13.599 section of our government, uh and and demonized, you know, publicly. 777 00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:16.840 As a constant, I absolutely support the Black Panthers. 778 00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:19.320 I'm also somebody who believes in gun rights. 779 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:23.000 I'm also somebody who believes though that you know, that 780 00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:26.800 our military has been overextended, over used and used unjustly 781 00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:29.559 all over the planet, and you know, things like that. 782 00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.440 I mean, really, in a lot of ways, I'm kind 783 00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:35.920 of like the uh, the uh, the liberal anarchist you know, 784 00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:38.400 uh in a lot of ways, Which is funny because 785 00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:40.679 people who do shows like mine and say a lot 786 00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:42.840 of the things that I do are generally more in 787 00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:46.559 a right wing you know, vain. But but I am not, 788 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:51.480 except that the the true libertarian sense of things. 789 00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:53.360 You know, there was a different way of. 790 00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:57.280 Being libertarian when we were coming up a few years ago. Uh, 791 00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.000 you know that doesn't match what they describe as libertally. 792 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.440 Now I see myself more as a classic libertarian that 793 00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.039 believes that, you know, the government should not be involved in. 794 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.079 Your personal life, things like that. 795 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:09.159 You know what I'm saying. 796 00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:13.119 I do. And I started out as an anarchist. That 797 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:17.239 was my first position as a kid seventeen eighteen years old, 798 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.039 and then I've become over a leftist. It's ease. I 799 00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:22.320 think we need to nationalize like the oil companies. We 800 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:24.599 need to nationalize the oil industry. We need to double 801 00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:27.519 the tax on the top one percent. And I believed 802 00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.679 for a very long time that there was no difference 803 00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:33.000 in who was ever in the White House. Very recently, 804 00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:35.480 I've been in touch with some people that were we're 805 00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:38.800 in the Obama white House and also in the Clinton 806 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:42.559 white House in their dealings with the Israel, and I 807 00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.960 found out that no, the president, especially Obama, has had 808 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:49.400 some personal input into US foreign policy as we relate 809 00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:52.360 to Israel. And I was stunned to find this out 810 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:54.119 that he had much more power than I thought he did. 811 00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:57.719 And my plan wise when I started to go to 812 00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.760 these Bernie rallies is that these kids weren't a fair 813 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:03.079 to the word socialist. And I said, well, we can 814 00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:06.159 go in there and mobilize these kids, these people that 815 00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:09.840 this Bernie base. We can mobilize them to a much 816 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:14.199 more leftist candidate as time goes on. But I'm happy 817 00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.119 now with Bernie. And I know there's a lot of things. 818 00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:17.920 Are Bernie the gun controlled stuff, I definitely don't go 819 00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:20.239 for it, But I also don't care if this gun laws. 820 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:21.159 I don't care about the loss. 821 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:26.239 But the thing is, there's a statement for you right there, 822 00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:26.719 there's the. 823 00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:28.400 Quote of the day. I don't care about the loss, 824 00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:33.039 so gonna go ahead. Sorry. As a defense investigator, my 825 00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:36.480 whole life working on organized crime cases from the eighties 826 00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.159 okay to drug cases, all the kind of stuff. Half 827 00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:42.000 of my clients are criminals with illegal guns on them, 828 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:44.079 and they I've never had a problem. I can't get 829 00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:48.000 along on everybody, but my plan was to organize this base. 830 00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:50.199 But when you hear Bernie at the speeches, you're not 831 00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.119 going to see it on TV because they don't play 832 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.920 it on TV. But he's talking about the Walmart family, 833 00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:58.639 the Walton family. There's these six people that possess forty 834 00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:01.199 percent of this country as well, the six people that 835 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:03.119 never worked a day in their life. And he'll talk 836 00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:05.280 about that kind of stuff at the rallies, and then 837 00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:07.880 he says, if people tell you that it doesn't matter 838 00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:10.920 who is president, then why are the Koch brothers spending 839 00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:13.440 nine hundred million dollars to get their guy in there? 840 00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:17.119 And it's convinced me in a lot of ways. Part 841 00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:19.639 it's not perfect, okay, but I think it's a great 842 00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:20.559 step in the right direction. 843 00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:24.880 Well, absolutely, And like I said, if I had to, 844 00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.519 you know, if I really honestly, if I thought it mattered, 845 00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:29.559 this would be the. 846 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:30.679 Guy I would probably support. 847 00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:34.119 Because again, he's speaking to the fact that we're living 848 00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.480 in essentially a fascist state at this point, where the 849 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:41.159 corporate interests are held over the interests of the people. 850 00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:45.320 That is specifically what Mussolini said, you know, regarding what 851 00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:49.280 who would know fascism better than Mussolini, but Mussolini said 852 00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:53.480 that fascism could be more accurately described as corporatism. And 853 00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:55.880 tell me that that is not the state of affairs 854 00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:58.639 here in this country at this point. You know, which 855 00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.000 is why I said what I did about the country 856 00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:03.159 and why I always say that, you know that we 857 00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:06.079 seem to be occupied and uh, you know, and we're 858 00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:08.239 dealing with corporate America at this point. 859 00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:11.039 And you know, and again those of us. 860 00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.400 Who are out there as the workers, you know, I 861 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.639 don't know how well you're doing, but it seems to 862 00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:19.159 me as though nobody has improved their station in life 863 00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:23.000 in the past decade. Really, uh, you know, and what 864 00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:24.719 does that say? 865 00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:25.079 You know? 866 00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:28.440 The game is rigged? Yeah, I totally agree with you. 867 00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:31.559 It's rigged for guys, middle class guys like us. But 868 00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:34.039 when you look at a town like Ferguson, who're like 869 00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:37.320 fifty sixty percent of the town all had arrest warrants 870 00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:38.760 on them because they're all getting pulled over and get 871 00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:41.920 these tickets all the time. And on any given day, 872 00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.360 ten percent of the population had a court date to 873 00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:48.000 go down to court to answer a warrant or answer 874 00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:51.559 a ticket because the whole city budget was being run 875 00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.480 on ticketing people, pulling people over and giving them tickets. 876 00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:59.719 And that's how the whole economy but this town ran, yeah, right, 877 00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:02.880 And you know, and meanwhile, it's it's it's it seems 878 00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:05.119 to be about race, and it is to some degree, 879 00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.920 but at the same time, it's also about the way 880 00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:13.320 that things have become mechanized regarding you know, the industry 881 00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:16.400 of punishment and court Once you get yourself into a 882 00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:19.639 court room situation and you've been fined, or you've been 883 00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:22.880 involved in something that's in dispute, or you're being charged 884 00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.360 with anything, even if it's a minor crime, at this 885 00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.840 point in time, you get so stuck, you know, unless 886 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:30.880 you have the money to buy your way out of 887 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:32.880 it real quick. Gee, this sounds familiar. 888 00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:35.039 If you can buy your way out, it's okay. 889 00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:37.559 But if you're in a position where you don't have 890 00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.239 the money right on, right on your person at that time, 891 00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:43.119 you know, next thing you know is you're stuck in 892 00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:47.639 a cycle. And that's the way it is in a 893 00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:50.159 lot of places in this country, and not just in Ferguson, 894 00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.719 but there you go. That's one of those instances where 895 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:55.800 it got way out of control. And it seems to 896 00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:59.159 me all over the country. Did this encouragement of the 897 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.639 way that the police are handling the public is way 898 00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:03.719 out of control. I mean, this is something I didn't 899 00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.199 expect to speak to you about, But I mean the 900 00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.519 truth is, I mean we've seen a huge change in 901 00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:09.280 the attitude. 902 00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:12.199 You know, it used to be that local, good old boys. 903 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.400 Club no matter where you were, no matter what race 904 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.280 we were talking about, that that had, you know, a 905 00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:21.280 power base in any locality. But now it's become really 906 00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:23.039 militarized in my estimation. 907 00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:26.000 Yeah, and it's in the training. If you look at 908 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:28.679 the Eric Garner case on Staten Island, and I'm from 909 00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:32.840 Staten Island, that guy that prosecuted okay that you know 910 00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:35.440 that took a dive you know, with the Grand Juria 911 00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:39.119 there in Stanton Island. Eric Garner. A lot of people 912 00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.880 don't know this, but he had he had been arrested many, 913 00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.519 many times. And one of the times he was arrested, 914 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:46.719 he was put in Rikers Island and he did a 915 00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:50.039 handwritten civil rights lawsuit against the New York City Police Department. 916 00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:52.920 This is before they killed him. And in there he 917 00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.599 talks about how they saw him. They pulled him over, 918 00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:58.679 and they pulled his pants down in the middle of 919 00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:02.280 the street, and they searched him amily with their fingers. 920 00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:05.639 They put on gloves and they searched his anus. Yeah, 921 00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:07.559 So when you see him on that video that day 922 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.199 and he's saying, you guys are always bugging me. This 923 00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:13.000 stops here, This stops here right now today. You wonder 924 00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:16.559 why this guy is resisting these cops is because what 925 00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:19.920 they did to him previously. And it's not just as 926 00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:23.119 a couple of bad apples. This is in the policy. 927 00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:26.280 It's in the training. Because when this guy's lying on 928 00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:29.440 the ground saying I can't breathe, and he's hand handcuffs 929 00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:32.880 dying on the ground, there's a supervisor there, there's a 930 00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:37.440 black woman supervised or sergeant that's stepping over his body, 931 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.280 and that the policy is is that if any of 932 00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:42.360 those cops would uncuff him and try and give him 933 00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:44.280 mouth to mouth or something like that, they would be 934 00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:47.280 violating policy and procedure. They'd get in trouble for that. 935 00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:51.320 So it's not bad apples, guys. We gotta change this 936 00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:54.639 from the top, and we gotta get see Bernie's not 937 00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:56.639 toughing her for that. We need some real guys to 938 00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:58.360 get in there and change this kind of stuff. Otherwise 939 00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:00.320 gonna be too late because we have a as an 940 00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:04.000 industry now with privatized prisons, where then making a huge 941 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:06.719 fortune arresting us, giving us tike, it's putting us in jail, 942 00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.920 getting us in the system to the point where it's 943 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:14.639 really it's we're at a tipping point and if someone 944 00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.639 like Trump gets in there, we're in big, big trouble 945 00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:19.280 and it might be time to leave the country. 946 00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.320 Well right, because I'll tell you one thing I can 947 00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:26.119 guarantee is that you know, the cuffs will be off, 948 00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:29.920 the gloves will be off regarding the policies of policing 949 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.719 and things like that, because we've seen personally, you and 950 00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:35.320 I both have seen exactly how this guy runs his 951 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:39.679 own personal security, right, Okay, And you know, I hate 952 00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:41.719 to use the word because it sounds like it's a 953 00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:43.599 racial term, but trust me, it's not racial. 954 00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:46.039 This guy doesn't care about what Racy hires to do it. 955 00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:51.639 Thuggery is encouraged in the Trump you know, business model when. 956 00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:53.239 It comes to the guys who run security. 957 00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:55.599 So believe me when I tell you this is not 958 00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:58.480 the guy who's going to want to question the police. 959 00:45:58.519 --> 00:45:59.519 He's going to back them. 960 00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:02.400 Up on every single thing they do, regardless of who 961 00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:06.000 gets killed or how. You know this, this this is 962 00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:08.559 the kind of guy that, uh that will be there 963 00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:11.639 putting in policy if by some miracle ends up in 964 00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:12.679 the in the office. 965 00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:16.519 You know, so in that way, I don't know. You know. 966 00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:18.519 Again, take a look at two sides of the coin. 967 00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:21.360 If you give me a choice between Sanders and Trump, Uh, 968 00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:24.519 you know, Sanders wins if he does nothing, you know. 969 00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:28.239 Trump, he's lost the Spanish voat. It does not the 970 00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:30.400 Hispanic voat. That's not the Muslim vote, that's for sure. 971 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:32.840 He lost the women vote. You know, who does he have? 972 00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:36.800 He has these old white, angry, scared people that are 973 00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:39.880 sitting there in this audience. And there there there scooters 974 00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.280 talking about ices and mumbling about ices and coming to 975 00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:44.480 get them, you know, fearful people. 976 00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:45.159 You know that. 977 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:48.760 It's a scary crowd over there. Man, I'd say, oh, 978 00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:51.039 get this too. Bit. I haven't talked about this on 979 00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:53.719 the area yet. But we went. We signed up for 980 00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:59.199 the Trump Caucaus training, the Trump he was undercover and 981 00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:01.400 going into the caucus training. Because my kids, my kid 982 00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:03.559 is fifteen years old, she's all into politics now. She 983 00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:06.440 loves Bernie. So we both signed up to go down 984 00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.159 there and take the Caucaus train. So I guess either 985 00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:11.119 I talked about it on Facebook or I talked about 986 00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:13.280 it on the air because they were waiting for us, man, 987 00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:19.880 and they wouldn't let us in. So yeah, so I 988 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:22.079 want I'm dying to see what their caucaus training looks like, 989 00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:24.119 because I can only imagine what that is like. But 990 00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:25.880 this I might have to put on a disguise and 991 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:27.880 stuff that I get some fake idea to get in there. 992 00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:28.480 Yeah. 993 00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:31.000 Either that or you're gonna have to get somebody to 994 00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:34.559 volunteer to do the undercover work for you, to you know, 995 00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.920 to collect intel on it. I would be fascinated to 996 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:40.599 see what the caucus training is like in the Trump campaign. 997 00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:43.199 What I'm dying to find out. 998 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:47.239 What a what a world man. 999 00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.480 But look, let's let's leave all that alone, because I 1000 00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:51.679 got other weird things to. 1001 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:52.400 Talk to you about. 1002 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.280 I love it because I can go over so many 1003 00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:58.800 different issues with you. We can talk about, you know, 1004 00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:02.599 the geo political situation if we want to, and you 1005 00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:05.559 can handle that. But I love talking to you about 1006 00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:08.280 some of the more quirky issues in the news too. 1007 00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:11.000 And I told you that I would want to talk 1008 00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:15.079 to you about Cosby because we addressed that in a 1009 00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:18.119 show that we did a few months ago, right when 1010 00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:20.679 those allegations were really starting to mount. I think there 1011 00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.400 was only maybe you know, ten women that were publicly 1012 00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:26.039 identified as accusing him at that time. I'm not sure 1013 00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:29.280 what the numbers up to at this point. But now 1014 00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:31.599 since then, you know, and it's dropped out of the 1015 00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:35.920 news cycle, if you notice, all right, but since then, 1016 00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:39.159 what happened? This guy counter suit for slander or whatever 1017 00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:44.679 or defamation of character. I forget what the actual suit entitle, 1018 00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:48.679 you know, encompasses, but he's actually countersuit some of his 1019 00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:53.440 accusers now has been formally charged in one locality, right, 1020 00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:56.920 I mean, this thing is evolving in an interesting way, 1021 00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:00.679 and I still contend that that a lot of it 1022 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.400 is fictitious. I think there's probably some legitimate claims that 1023 00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:06.440 are mixed in there, but I bet you a lot 1024 00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:08.719 of it is fictitious, and I'm wondering where it's actually 1025 00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.119 coming from. 1026 00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:13.519 Okay, I'll tell you this. I believe this. I believe 1027 00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:15.599 one hunch percent this guys. He's been drugging these girls 1028 00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:21.679 and raping these girls. I even suspect, okay, that he's involved, 1029 00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:27.519 uh possibly with the murder of his son. Okay, and wow, yeah, 1030 00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:29.719 and I had on Jules Starr, who was a cousin 1031 00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:31.679 of the daughter who you know, he had his own 1032 00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:37.320 daughter arrested and put in prison in the same day 1033 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:39.679 that a couple of days. Let's get into the whole 1034 00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:40.480 day with Bill Cosby. 1035 00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:42.039 Let's let's you know what. 1036 00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:44.760 Let's break it down from jump because uh, you know, 1037 00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:47.159 everybody thinks him as you know, the jello pudding guy 1038 00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:49.840 in the Cosby Show and all that. But things took 1039 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.800 a strange turn around the time that his son was killed. 1040 00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:56.119 And this was a situation where he's changing a tire 1041 00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:59.639 and uh, you know, some some attacker comes up and 1042 00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:02.159 just take his life in a pretty brutal fashion. 1043 00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:02.400 Right. 1044 00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:05.760 This is this is the way that the story was passed. 1045 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:10.480 But this sort of changed Cosby's career and his life 1046 00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:12.519 and everything else. And at the very same time, like 1047 00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:16.239 you said, he had this estranged daughter, right who was 1048 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.039 trying to assume him and and all these other things, 1049 00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:23.519 and then she winds up getting thrown in prison for extortion. 1050 00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:27.199 And I mean, it's a really weird story considering you know, 1051 00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:29.280 like I said, that sort of squeaky clean image that 1052 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:30.239 he had for a long time. 1053 00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:32.840 Okay, the first thing you gotta do is you got 1054 00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:34.840 to get out of you had the squeaky clean image, 1055 00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.199 because here's a guy that was best buddy, is almost 1056 00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:40.360 his whole life with Richard Pryor. Okay, those are the 1057 00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:42.199 kind of guys that's hanging out. He's hanging out down 1058 00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.679 there at the Playboy Magie. 1059 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:48.480 You know, well, you know what ed ed one second, 1060 00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:50.079 because you know what, we're only a couple of minutes 1061 00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:51.800 away from the break at the top of the hour, 1062 00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:54.880 and I want to just kind of I don't want 1063 00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:55.519 to break this. 1064 00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:57.920 Into pieces, because this is this is. 1065 00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.880 Worthy of going through in one one, you know, fell 1066 00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:04.400 swoop and I think it's really interesting the way you're 1067 00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:05.119 going to look at it. 1068 00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:07.400 And I know I've got a slightly different. 1069 00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:10.119 Point of view on it because and I'll just throw 1070 00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:11.719 this out there that way, I won't get in the 1071 00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:14.360 way of what you're going to explain. You know, the 1072 00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:17.320 fact is that some of this stuff gets manufactured, and 1073 00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:19.760 there are people that sort of you know, hang on 1074 00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.719 and tag onto these things when they start to happen. 1075 00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:24.960 That's the first thing that I got to say about 1076 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:28.320 these allegations against them. The second thing is that in 1077 00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:33.239 a lot of cases, there's a buyer's remorse among some 1078 00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:38.280 of these people in Hollywood situations, not necessarily in Hollywood, 1079 00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:41.639 but in Hollywood situations where there's a lot of partying, 1080 00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:44.440 a lot of strange things going on, people get dosed. 1081 00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:46.519 You know very well, you got to protect your drink. 1082 00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:49.119 You know very well, you got to watch where you're 1083 00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:51.920 getting any substance that you're going to consume, whether it's 1084 00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:54.000 food or anything else, when you go to any of 1085 00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:57.679 these celebrity parties, because all kinds of bizarre things have 1086 00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.000 gone on, and believe me, most of it never makes 1087 00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:03.760 the news. Okay, Individuals who are you know, on their 1088 00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:07.079 way up, who are are involved in some way or 1089 00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:10.960 another with some of these celebrities on occasions get themselves 1090 00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:14.920 in all sorts of weird situations where sometimes they were 1091 00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:19.440 willing participants, even though you know later on they sort 1092 00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:21.639 of change the story that happens a lot. 1093 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:22.719 Okay. 1094 00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:25.920 So this is where my skepticism comes from, because listen, 1095 00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:26.280 if you. 1096 00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:28.639 Drop yourself anywhere in Los Angeles. 1097 00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:30.800 Right now, you can pick up a million stories about 1098 00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:33.360 a million different people that you would have never thought 1099 00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:36.159 were even close to reality, from people. 1100 00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:39.079 Who will swear up and down that they experienced all sorts. 1101 00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:43.800 Of dark sides of individuals, right, And I think some 1102 00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:46.599 of the fanfare that came out with this cosmic thing 1103 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:50.199 is that I really do. But when you have so 1104 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:53.159 much of it piled up, after a while, you got 1105 00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:56.679 to say to yourself, well, there's probably something legitimate in here, 1106 00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:00.880 and I want to get to that, because again, you know, 1107 00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:03.880 people keep going, look it's the yellow pudding guy, the 1108 00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:05.920 guy who would you know, yell at Eddie Murphy for 1109 00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:10.199 cursing and everything else. But you know, Hollywood and the 1110 00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:13.719 reality are always very very different things. So in the 1111 00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:15.760 next hour we're gonna get into the Bill Cosby thing, 1112 00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:18.639 and god knows where else we're gonna go with Ed Opperman, 1113 00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.599 who is my special guest tonight on the O'Kelly Effect. 1114 00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:23.559 Stay tuned to American Freedom Radio. 1115 00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:24.880 We'll be right back. 1116 00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:41.920 Europe Europe Doom, American Freedom Radio, American Freedom Radio, most 1117 00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:47.199 iterated in all media, the alternatives alternative. 1118 00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:52.920 Chuck Well, and here we go with the second hour. 1119 00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:55.360 And yes, as they said in the chat room, it 1120 00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:58.239 may be part of the dummy load, but listen, this 1121 00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:02.199 is analysis of what you're seeing presented to you for 1122 00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:06.760 a reason. Okay, I am explaining to you the grand distraction. 1123 00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:10.840 Think about it that way. Tonight, my guest Ed Opperman, 1124 00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:13.679 who is a private investigator, radio show host, a writer, 1125 00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:17.719 interesting guy in his own right, with quite an interesting 1126 00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:21.320 past as well. Every time I seem to bring something up, 1127 00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:25.679 it's funny he knows somebody or has been involved with somebody. 1128 00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:28.000 It's just an interesting case of networking. 1129 00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:31.639 And I just enjoy having these conversations with you, and 1130 00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:33.840 it's great to bring him out on the air. 1131 00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:34.719 Now. 1132 00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:38.800 We were talking about the Cosby case a bit, and 1133 00:54:39.079 --> 00:54:41.360 I did cut you off at the end of the 1134 00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:44.920 last hour because well, honestly, I wanted you to get 1135 00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:47.480 to it in one fell swoop, because this is one 1136 00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:49.719 of those fascinating cases, and I think it's worthy of 1137 00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:55.800 discussion because after all, this to me, you know, smacks 1138 00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:58.159 of something that is being done for a reason. That 1139 00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:00.199 everything is played up in the media for rec and 1140 00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:04.039 it's not always just for the ratings, you know. So 1141 00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:08.239 I say that sometimes there are different reasons why people 1142 00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:10.800 come out and make the statements they do, et cetera, 1143 00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:13.639 et cetera, and it's going to be something interesting to unfold. 1144 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:18.320 Once again, one of these allegedly squeaky clean icons, you know, 1145 00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:21.639 falling okay before your very eyes. 1146 00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:24.920 And I think it's an interesting study in that way alone. 1147 00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:28.119 But I do want to get to your viewpoint on it, 1148 00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:30.480 because we were talking about we talked about a couple 1149 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.280 other things off the air, but hey, let's continue on 1150 00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.800 with the Cosby discussion and see where we go from there. 1151 00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:42.159 Okay, Now, I come to this, like I said, from 1152 00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:44.760 a different point of view, because when I look at 1153 00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:47.559 the Cosby case, I'm like saying, Hey, how come I'm 1154 00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:49.920 not involved in this case. I'm going No one hired 1155 00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:52.079 me to work in this case because I know everyone 1156 00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:54.920 Marty Singer was on the other side of a couple 1157 00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:57.320 of cases I was in. Who was a Cosby's lawyer 1158 00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:00.639 who was one of the toughest LA lawyers out there. 1159 00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:03.840 He was involved. He's involved with guys who wouldn't believe 1160 00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:08.639 guys like Anthony pal Kanno, who is wire tapping the 1161 00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:11.559 whole everyone in Hollywood and inserting himself in the cases 1162 00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:13.360 and blackmailing people all over the place that when he 1163 00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:18.559 was Marty Singer's private investigator, Marty Singers private investigator right now. 1164 00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:22.599 One of them is Paul Barisi, who is this guy real, 1165 00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:26.440 real fascinating guys. While it's too long to explain history, 1166 00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:29.280 but looking up Paul Burres, great great story on him. 1167 00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:32.639 I'd love to get him on the show right now, 1168 00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:37.079 and then Lisa Bloom and Gloria already because I've done 1169 00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:39.480 these other cases big, the other big ones, the Tiger 1170 00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:42.639 Woods case and the Charlie Sheen case that was involved 1171 00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:45.079 in for a whole year Marty Singers, Charlie Sheen's lawyer. 1172 00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:48.920 I was on the other side, you know, the Ashton 1173 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:52.800 Kutcher case, Wienergate. So I'm very familiar with these cases 1174 00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:55.679 where these women are coming out of the woodwork claiming 1175 00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:57.599 this or claiming that, and they have to be vetted 1176 00:56:57.639 --> 00:56:59.079 out right. 1177 00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:01.320 So you know, it's not crazy statement for me to 1178 00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:04.440 say that there were a lot of these later on, 1179 00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:08.079 you know, bandwagon jumpers of sorts who seek out their 1180 00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:10.239 fifteen minutes or seek out to try and you know, 1181 00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:13.480 grab a quick settlement out of something because something else 1182 00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:16.639 has arisen and they might have been in proximity to somebody, 1183 00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:19.199 or they might be able to present the appearance of 1184 00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:22.320 being in proximity to somebody to gain in some way. 1185 00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:24.079 That's not a crazy idea. 1186 00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:25.400 No, absolutely not. 1187 00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:25.599 No. 1188 00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:29.039 There's plenty of gold diggers and people you know, you know, 1189 00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:32.199 trying to make a fast buck artist that come along 1190 00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.480 and try and insert themselves into the story. But like 1191 00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:38.079 I said, everyone who's dealing with these cases, we're used 1192 00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:40.679 to this kind of stuff. The reason why there's fifteen 1193 00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:44.280 women in the Tiger Woods case is because of Ed Opperman. 1194 00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:46.840 That was my job. I'm the one who came up 1195 00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:52.559 with fifteen and maybe it was only fourteen. Couple got there, okay, 1196 00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:55.679 but we had enough, you know that we could insert 1197 00:57:55.719 --> 00:57:57.920 them into the case. But in the National acquir and 1198 00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.480 stuff like that, they give you polygraphs. You need to 1199 00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:02.360 corroborate your story with them. They were just hand out 1200 00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:04.440 money to shows up bandor and says hey, I'm want 1201 00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:07.719 to tell why. So as far as that goes, I 1202 00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:09.880 one hundred percent agree with you. People do show up 1203 00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:11.840 out of the woodwork. But the kind of people we're 1204 00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:16.519 talking about here, Gloria Allred, Lisa Bloom, the National Inquirer, 1205 00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:19.280 these are all people that vet out their their their 1206 00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:23.800 clients and their sources before they move ahead. Now, Bill 1207 00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:29.400 Cosby is not some uh teenager in Hollywood that he's 1208 00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:31.840 being run over, so huge power. This guy was gonna 1209 00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:34.320 buy NBC. This guy's hugely powerful. One of the most 1210 00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:37.519 expensive piece of property in Manhattan. This guy owns he 1211 00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:40.840 had his own cop in front of his townhouse there 1212 00:58:41.719 --> 00:58:44.199 in New York City. There's a little booth out in 1213 00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:47.599 front of his townhouse in New York City where he 1214 00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:50.599 had his own NYPD police officer there, okay station there 1215 00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:55.639 in front of his house. Absolutely true, huge money, huge money, 1216 00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:59.559 huge power. Okay uh. Marty Singer is one of the 1217 00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:02.840 most power powerful attorneys in California. Marty Singer is the 1218 00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:05.880 kind of guy that could easily that if fifty women 1219 00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:08.000 or one hundred women are coming along, he could deal 1220 00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:10.480 with every single one of them, either by settling with 1221 00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:13.159 them or was picking up enough Dirk to keep them silent. 1222 00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:16.639 But this did not happen for whatever reason. And we 1223 00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:18.760 have our own different theories. And I had Mark Evner 1224 00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:21.559 on my show a couple of times, and he's the 1225 00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:25.480 guy who wrote the first story about Cosby, and he 1226 00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:27.239 tried to sell it all over. This was years and 1227 00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:29.079 years ago, by the way, this is way before it. 1228 00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:32.000 Hannibal Barras came out with a joke that caused this 1229 00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:35.719 big avalanche to come down on Cosby. First time I 1230 00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:41.119 had Mark Vner on my show, I brought up Cosby 1231 00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:43.599 because I was thinking about the story about Ennis Cosby, 1232 00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:46.079 the son that was murdered, because that always struck me 1233 00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:49.480 as weird. But when I brought up Cosby, Evna says, 1234 00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:52.159 in a completely bizarre story, like I said in the 1235 00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:53.239 first hour, here. 1236 00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:56.639 You know the idea that this kid was, you know, 1237 00:59:56.840 --> 00:59:59.280 the way it was presented the media again, you know, 1238 00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:01.800 sort of an inno kid had been you know, part 1239 01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:04.760 of Cosby's act. So we were familiar with the name Ennis. 1240 01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:07.800 You know, he used to he was a central figure 1241 01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:12.239 in Cosby's act, you know, for years, right, so somebody 1242 01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:14.079 that we heard of in a joking sort of way, 1243 01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:17.440 and people felt that, you know, vicariously, he was like 1244 01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:20.360 represented on the Cosby Show as one of the kids, 1245 01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:23.480 and you know, the theo Huxtable and all that kind 1246 01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:23.800 of thing. 1247 01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:28.559 Right right now. Now, the way we saw it in 1248 01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:33.159 the news was that Annis Consby was driving his car, 1249 01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:36.639 he got a flat, some Russian mobster guy pulls up 1250 01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:39.159 behind him and gets out and kills him. And at 1251 01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:42.679 the same time, Annis Consby had called his girlfriend, who 1252 01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:45.639 also had connections to Russian mob and she shows up 1253 01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:48.400 behind us and sees this and it's dead in the street, 1254 01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:51.280 and she calls the cops because already begin with it. 1255 01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:55.440 But then a couple of days later, Bill Cosby has 1256 01:00:55.519 --> 01:01:00.159 his own daughter arrested for extortion. Now, this is a 1257 01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:04.639 young woman. She was a love child, okay, And she 1258 01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:06.880 had been getting money from Cosby for years and years 1259 01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:08.280 and years. She was paying for a college. He was 1260 01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:10.639 paying for a lot of stuff, but she had dropped 1261 01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:14.119 out of school and she still wanted more money. So 1262 01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:17.679 she got hooked up with this guy who was like 1263 01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:21.920 the fixer and the deal okay. And the guy who 1264 01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:24.559 was fixing his deal with Cosney, negotiating his deal with Cosby, 1265 01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:28.840 was telling her, hey, man, we gotta be careful. We 1266 01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:32.599 could get killed in all this, Okay. Because I interviewed 1267 01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:34.920 Jewel Starr, who is the author of the book who 1268 01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:39.199 just came out with the book. She's Cosby's daughter's cousin 1269 01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:41.360 and she knows all these people, and she told me 1270 01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:43.199 the whole story. And it's kind of funny because this 1271 01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:47.639 woman hit Jewels Starr. I found her because it was 1272 01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:50.440 a story in the National inquiry where she was alleging 1273 01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:53.599 that perhaps Cosby was involved in the murder of his son, 1274 01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:56.320 which was suspicious as hell to begin with. That whole 1275 01:01:57.360 --> 01:01:59.079 thing where the guy gets the flat and the hitman 1276 01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:01.000 comes up, that happens all time in New York. That's 1277 01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:04.519 a known method for hitman to kill somebody. 1278 01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:07.599 Right, they'll turn around and put a This is the truth, 1279 01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:09.840 by the way, and I know this not. 1280 01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:13.159 I don't want to explain why I know this, but 1281 01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:16.639 let me just say that I can verify personally that 1282 01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:19.920 what will happen is somebody will play something like a 1283 01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:22.079 razorblade or something like that in the track of a 1284 01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:25.599 tire and it won't go flat right away. But as 1285 01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:27.599 you run your car down the road a couple miles 1286 01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:30.199 and if somebody were to follow behind you, let's just say, 1287 01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:33.400 what happens is your tire winds up going flat and 1288 01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:36.760 now they have the opportunity to either rob you, kill you. 1289 01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:39.920 Whatever it is that the goal is. This is a 1290 01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:43.599 typical mo for a lot of guys who are involved 1291 01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:44.159 in that business. 1292 01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:48.639 Let's just say, right, it's not a rocket science, it's 1293 01:02:48.679 --> 01:02:51.440 not reinventing the wheel. This is something that's done right. 1294 01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:54.400 So now I read about this the National Choir that 1295 01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:57.000 this woman. Jewel Starr says, Hey, this might have happened 1296 01:02:57.039 --> 01:02:58.920 this way, right, So I says, oh, man, I want 1297 01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:00.639 to talk to her. Let me get a her. It 1298 01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:04.639 turns out she lives off the grid, her and her husband. 1299 01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:06.360 She lives here in Vegas, by the way. But what 1300 01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:09.000 they did was they took a tractor trailer truck and 1301 01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:11.599 they modified it so that there's like a living room 1302 01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:13.400 in this truck. Not like he would take a bus 1303 01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:15.960 and refurbish it or a motor home. They took a 1304 01:03:16.039 --> 01:03:18.000 tractor trailer truck and they live in his tractor trailer 1305 01:03:18.039 --> 01:03:21.840 truck off the grid. So I locate her. Okay, I 1306 01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:24.440 located her off the grid, and I call her up 1307 01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:25.760 and I say, I want to have you on the show. 1308 01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:29.079 She says, how do you know about this? I says, 1309 01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:30.440 how do I know? It's on the front page of 1310 01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:32.440 the National Inquiry. She didn't even know she was on 1311 01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:34.000 the front page of the in Choir with the story. 1312 01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:36.039 That's how I told her. 1313 01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:38.159 Okay, So I'm. 1314 01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:39.480 Talking to her now. I had her on the show 1315 01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:43.960 for like four hours. Then at the National Choir contacted 1316 01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.000 the Russian hitman. Let's call him right in prison, and 1317 01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:50.360 he confessed. He says, yeah, I did, I regret doing 1318 01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:53.880 this murder. But they asked him about his motivations and 1319 01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:56.000 who hired him to do it and was Cosby behind it, 1320 01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:58.000 and he declined to talk about that at all. 1321 01:03:59.760 --> 01:03:59.920 Yeah. 1322 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.239 Yeah, So it was a lot of weird stuff where 1323 01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:05.840 it suddenly because and her theory is is that he 1324 01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:08.840 was siding with the daughter who had been getting payments 1325 01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:12.360 her whole life, okay, and when she stopped getting payments 1326 01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:14.800 for cons because she dropped out of school, and then 1327 01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:16.760 she said, okay, I want to lump some payment. So 1328 01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:19.079 instead of hiring a lawyer, she hired some guy who 1329 01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:21.880 was like an agent character hustler, who went in and 1330 01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:24.280 negotiated the steal. And then when they went in to 1331 01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:27.119 pick up the money, they arrested her and he prosecuted her. 1332 01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:31.440 And this, you know, show he testified against his own 1333 01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:33.480 daughter to put her in prison. 1334 01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:35.320 Right again. 1335 01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:38.880 Not another situation that's unusual where there are these guys 1336 01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:43.920 who basically operate as facilitators in a lot of these situations. Uh, 1337 01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:46.400 quite often they get involved when you got somebody who's 1338 01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:49.480 like a high profile personality and they've got you know, 1339 01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:53.920 some illegitimate kid, or they've got you know, some disgruntled 1340 01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:57.360 former employee or somebody that they you know, were involved 1341 01:04:57.400 --> 01:05:00.920 in some nefarious kind of relationship with. You know, they 1342 01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:03.639 sweeping under the carpet this way, so there's no paper trail, 1343 01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.599 there's only the word of this hustler, et cetera, et cetera. 1344 01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:10.119 I mean again, not something that's out of the norm really. 1345 01:05:10.719 --> 01:05:12.639 So yeah, and and and I can tell you man, 1346 01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:16.119 uh that's that's and sometimes that's been me. Okay, I've 1347 01:05:16.119 --> 01:05:18.719 been the I was gonna say, they hire pis to 1348 01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:21.239 do this kind of work all the time. I would 1349 01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:23.519 get a call at five o'clock in the morning, Eddie, 1350 01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:24.960 you gotta pick up this girl, take it down to 1351 01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:27.760 get a polygraph because she's pregnant with so and so's baby. 1352 01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:29.119 We got to get this on record because you know, 1353 01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:31.239 we're going to cut a deal with this guy. And 1354 01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:33.559 I'm driving around, fine, and if this person taking her room, 1355 01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:35.760 but sticking in a motel room getting it, getting it, 1356 01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:37.400 you know, and now I got to shop around for 1357 01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:41.559 a cheap enough polygraph expert that's all that comes down 1358 01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:43.880 and do the job. Because they're all too cheap to 1359 01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:46.719 hire a really good uh polygrapher. 1360 01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:48.159 So it's like they give you a. 1361 01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:50.280 Basic retainer and you got to work within that budget 1362 01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:51.480 otherwise you're losing money. 1363 01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:55.760 So right, it's everyone's different. Sometimes you gotta cut at 1364 01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:57.039 the end and stuff like that, or you get some 1365 01:05:57.159 --> 01:05:59.199 kind of publicity out of it. Uh, like all these 1366 01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:01.239 cases that I taught talk about the Tiger Woods, and 1367 01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:04.119 it's because the deal was in the beginning was I 1368 01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:05.519 was going to get a press release at the end. 1369 01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:08.440 So I don't talk about cases when clients don't want 1370 01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:10.159 me to talk about it. I only I can tell 1371 01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:12.559 this sum I can talk about because that was the 1372 01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:15.199 deal and they're the ones promoting it really more than 1373 01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:19.800 I am. Otherwise, nothing you could do is at the end. 1374 01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:22.519 If they screw you at the end, you can sue 1375 01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:24.440 the client and then you get your name in the 1376 01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:27.039 press for that. If they don't pay an the end, 1377 01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:29.000 then you sue them. And you see that all the 1378 01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:32.079 time till Private investcasueing their client because they didn't they 1379 01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:34.559 didn't get the deal they were supposed to get. But 1380 01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:39.719 so form my opinion of this, cosmy thing is I 1381 01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:41.400 think he's guilty and Like I said, this guy has 1382 01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:44.760 a history going back talking about Spanish fly his whole 1383 01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:48.079 life and drugging girls as part of his comedy routine, 1384 01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:52.920 hung out with the guys like Richard Pryor, so he's 1385 01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:55.159 no stranger to the drug life and the drinking like 1386 01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:58.039 hung out at the Playboy mansion. One of these girls 1387 01:06:58.079 --> 01:06:59.960 he's alleged to have raped was a fifteen year oldl 1388 01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:02.320 that he brought the Playboy Mansion. There's no denying he 1389 01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:05.719 brought this fifteen year old the Playboy mansion. That happened. 1390 01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:07.800 Just though, did he drug er and rape or not? 1391 01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:10.159 That we don't know. Now you say, well, there's fifty 1392 01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:12.840 women and they didn't come forward. Someone might be shaky. Yeah, 1393 01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:14.440 I guarantee some of them are shaky. 1394 01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:16.599 And that's why too. 1395 01:07:18.400 --> 01:07:22.599 You don't see Gloria Already and Lisa Bloom and people 1396 01:07:22.719 --> 01:07:26.960 like that handling every single client right right by the 1397 01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:32.679 time you get where Gloria already is doing a press conference, 1398 01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:36.079 it's because she couldn't make a deal, She couldn't get paid, 1399 01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:39.320 they couldn't make a settlement. Now she's gone and done 1400 01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:42.519 the press conference, so we know about fifty. There could 1401 01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:45.760 be another hundred who got settlements that we don't know about. 1402 01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:48.840 Well, that's the other thing, because there would be a 1403 01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:52.960 non disclosure clause to any of those settlements, probably, so 1404 01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:56.880 there could be a limitless amount of people that were 1405 01:07:56.920 --> 01:08:00.880 involved that haven't come forward yet because that was part 1406 01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:01.360 of the deal. 1407 01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:02.559 Yeah, right. 1408 01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:04.079 And how they do that is they give you an 1409 01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:07.239 annuity so that you get payments a little bit each year. 1410 01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:09.079 And as long as that way, you can't just get 1411 01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:13.159 your money and screw them anyway, that's why. But they 1412 01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:16.479 get screwed anyway. It's real shame some of these young 1413 01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:18.720 women and these clients. They get screwed anyway because they 1414 01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:21.359 get the annuity. But then the lawyer wants a big 1415 01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:25.560 chunk at the beginning so that they wind up with problems. 1416 01:08:26.319 --> 01:08:26.520 Yeah. 1417 01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:28.279 Well that's the other thing, because they're the oneers who 1418 01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:31.840 collected the money, and meanwhile the lawyer's seen as an expense. 1419 01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:33.199 And yeah, it becomes a whole thing. 1420 01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:37.800 But it's an interesting case and it does speak to 1421 01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:41.279 this entire excuse me for saying, but underbelly of a 1422 01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:44.840 sort of business that goes on, which sad to say 1423 01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:46.880 or not sad to say. Actually, I'm kind of happy 1424 01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:49.840 to say you're part of it, because you really understand 1425 01:08:49.880 --> 01:08:51.600 how a lot of these things really work. 1426 01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:56.079 And one of the reasons why I got involved with 1427 01:08:56.159 --> 01:08:59.760 alternative media is because I wanted to tell people about them, 1428 01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:02.960 because I have an insight to how the media works. 1429 01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:04.560 And I was involved with a big giant case with 1430 01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:08.000 the Sarah Palin and Todd Palin that wound up a 1431 01:09:08.199 --> 01:09:12.000 part of a Congressional investigation against the Secret Service, and 1432 01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:16.760 it's part of congression investigation to congressional hearings, and I've 1433 01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:19.840 seen how things work behind the scenes and how things 1434 01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:22.119 are silenced and then covered up. Nobody knows that Todd 1435 01:09:22.199 --> 01:09:26.880 Palin was involved with a prostitute operation there in Alaska, 1436 01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:32.119 and that the Palents have never denied it. That my client, 1437 01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:37.880 Chile Trip reported to Congress that was Todd Palin is 1438 01:09:37.880 --> 01:09:40.319 a client, but also sent to her other clients, and 1439 01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:42.479 she would report on the activity and report back to 1440 01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:45.439 Todd Palin on what she did with these clients, you know, 1441 01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:49.319 and that it was so covered up so bit she had. 1442 01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:51.079 I got involved with that because she had a contract, 1443 01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:53.159 she had a payoff with the National Choir. She sold 1444 01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:57.159 them a story and what happened was they renigged on 1445 01:09:57.239 --> 01:10:02.720 paying her the fifty thousand dollars because, uh, the chief 1446 01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:06.199 of police in Alaska, I forget the town and probably 1447 01:10:06.199 --> 01:10:10.520 Anchorage put out a press press release saying, well, we've 1448 01:10:10.600 --> 01:10:13.840 investigated Todd Palein, We've investigated all of her claims, and 1449 01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:17.239 none of this really happened. What we found out later 1450 01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:21.079 on was that was written by Sarah Palin's attorney and 1451 01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:23.960 that he never really did investigate any of Todd Palin's 1452 01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:28.960 equipment or Chirley Trip's computer or cell phones or laptops 1453 01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:30.680 or address book, all this stuff I had in my 1454 01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:33.920 position by that point. And you want to know what 1455 01:10:34.199 --> 01:10:36.800 the day that they sent that they've even they even 1456 01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:40.039 destroyed some stuff to illegally, contrary to a judge's order. 1457 01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:44.640 But the day I received that evidence, the hard drive, 1458 01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:48.520 the cell phone, the address books, all that stuff. When 1459 01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:50.680 I received that stuff in my office, that's the same 1460 01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:53.439 day that Sarah Palin went on Hannity and says I'm 1461 01:10:53.479 --> 01:10:54.479 not going to run for president. 1462 01:10:57.159 --> 01:10:59.760 See that tells you something right there, because I guarantee 1463 01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:01.600 you that would have dug deeper into her, they would 1464 01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:04.359 have found all kinds of weird stuff. Uh, you know, 1465 01:11:04.439 --> 01:11:08.039 would have gone way beyond Gee, they got expensive clothes during. 1466 01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:11.800 The campaign, you know what I mean, there's no way. Yeah, 1467 01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:16.159 oh no, the Palin family up there in a oh boy, 1468 01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:17.720 I forget the name of a little town because the 1469 01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:20.119 first town she was mayor of was like five hundred people. 1470 01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:22.960 Is a tiny little town, you know, Wabashah or something, 1471 01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:26.000 right or something like that. Wasscilla, Wasscilla. 1472 01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:26.399 There you go. 1473 01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:28.279 And that's one of the things if you watch that 1474 01:11:28.479 --> 01:11:33.439 movie that Nick Boomfield did about that, he wanted to 1475 01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:37.000 do a story that they were right wing Christians, but 1476 01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:38.760 that's not what they were at all. Man. These guys 1477 01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:41.159 had a weekly poker game going on up there. Uh, 1478 01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:46.000 these were really this is a wild bunch. I'm a 1479 01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:48.800 wild guy. This is a wild bunch, man, you know. 1480 01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:49.439 Uh. 1481 01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:51.239 And but he did a different kind of a story 1482 01:11:51.239 --> 01:11:53.000 even though he knew what what the real facts were. 1483 01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:56.600 In my opinion, h so so, so that's the whole thing. 1484 01:11:56.920 --> 01:11:59.079 And I wanted to get that out and tell people, Hey, 1485 01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:00.760 this is what's really going on behind the scenes that 1486 01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:03.079 you don't hear about in the major news. And that's 1487 01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:04.960 how I got involved in alternative media. 1488 01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:09.319 Right right, And you know, it's uh, it's differently, and 1489 01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:11.359 I'm telling you, every time you do one of these shows, 1490 01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:16.119 it's really fascinating because you do provide us with an insight, 1491 01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:18.800 and you know, has anybody tried to sue you over 1492 01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:19.520 any of these shows? 1493 01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:25.399 Now, I've had some threats different kinds of threats to 1494 01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:28.520 the show about the murder of Tupac Shakor, and I 1495 01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:29.800 got some threats on that one. 1496 01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:34.720 My god, oh man, listen you you you now struck 1497 01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:36.680 a nerve with me because I would love to talk 1498 01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:38.720 to you about that before we do. 1499 01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:40.720 Though, anybody wants to call in. 1500 01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:42.640 I know I put it out on social media, but 1501 01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:44.600 I want to tell you guys, the phone lines are 1502 01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:48.000 open at two point eight three three nine eight five 1503 01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:51.159 two five, and it's endless really what you could ask 1504 01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:53.960 ed about but or whatever you want to interject into 1505 01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:54.720 this conversation. 1506 01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:56.800 I know it's a little unusual for what. 1507 01:12:56.840 --> 01:12:59.680 I usually cover on the show, but man, I'm telling you, 1508 01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:04.760 this is an absolute dissection of the way the mainstream 1509 01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:08.479 media winds up interpreting a lot of the realities. That's 1510 01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:11.359 why I have ed on by the way, in case 1511 01:13:11.439 --> 01:13:14.000 you guys don't understand, because it's sort of like you know, 1512 01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:16.600 usually chunk you talk about very serious and this is 1513 01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:20.199 very serious too, because this is all about the deception 1514 01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:22.600 that is put in front of you. You know, the 1515 01:13:23.479 --> 01:13:25.439 rest of the story. Remember there used to be a 1516 01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:28.239 guy who said that famously all the time. Uh, you know, 1517 01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:31.399 here's the rest of the story. And Ed's one of 1518 01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:32.840 these guys who can bring it to you. And he 1519 01:13:32.920 --> 01:13:35.920 does that on something he calls the Opperman Report. And 1520 01:13:36.479 --> 01:13:40.800 I'm telling you definitely worth worth a listen, uh, you know, 1521 01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:42.960 for issues like this and also a lot of the 1522 01:13:43.039 --> 01:13:45.760 other larger issues out there as well. I mean, I 1523 01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:47.720 might actually want to get into the Hammonds with you 1524 01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:51.439 at some point, uh during this discussion, but who knows 1525 01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:53.560 that we'll run out of time. So two p One 1526 01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:56.680 eight three three nine eight five two five I do. 1527 01:13:57.000 --> 01:13:59.199 I have control of the board, So if you want 1528 01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:01.359 to come on in and say say anything, the rules 1529 01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:01.880 are simple. 1530 01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:05.119 You're allowed to abuse the host, not the guest. That's it. 1531 01:14:06.159 --> 01:14:08.000 I do want to say though, because the last time 1532 01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:10.039 I was on your show, a lot of people were saying, too, hey, 1533 01:14:10.119 --> 01:14:13.359 you know, this guy is not very serious, and I 1534 01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:16.000 really do have a serious background. I've worked I'm death 1535 01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:19.800 penalty qualified. I'm a digital friendsic investigator have presented the 1536 01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:23.279 evidence in death penalty trials Before Congress, I was involved 1537 01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:26.600 in a congressional investigation and two congressional hearings involving the 1538 01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:29.800 US Secret Service. So I'm not a fly by night guy. 1539 01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:33.800 I'm credential and I was involved in some of the 1540 01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:36.359 biggest organized crime cases in New York in the history 1541 01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:40.039 of New York, the Pizza Connection trial. Rudolph Giuliani was 1542 01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:42.000 prosecuting that case, and I was working for the defense, 1543 01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:45.439 worked with you know, very prominent attorneys, you know throughout history. 1544 01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:47.680 Yeah, well, you know, for people who might have forgotten, 1545 01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:50.840 or for people who aren't from the Northeast, why don't 1546 01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:53.760 you give a quick explanation of what the Pizza Connection was. 1547 01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:57.560 Pizza connected, very interesting pizza connection cases. These guys were 1548 01:14:58.920 --> 01:15:01.720 importing heroin and they were doing it through the chain 1549 01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:05.439 of pizzerias across the country and by and my job 1550 01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:07.239 in that case originally was is I was working at 1551 01:15:07.239 --> 01:15:11.199 a pi's office in Brooklyn, and our job was to 1552 01:15:11.279 --> 01:15:15.279 listen to the FBI recordings and give our own transcript 1553 01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:18.039 of what we heard, so the FBI would say Hey, 1554 01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:20.000 we're gonna break some egg we're gonna break some legs, 1555 01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:22.840 or we're gonna sell them some drugs. And we would say, 1556 01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:25.760 oh no, no, we heard we're gonna cook them some eggs, 1557 01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:29.279 and we're gonna give them a hug, you know, and 1558 01:15:29.359 --> 01:15:31.239 then we would present both sides to the jury, and 1559 01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:32.920 the jury to the side, you know, whose version of 1560 01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:34.680 what we heard is correct. That's how you did it 1561 01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:38.920 back in those days, the audio enhancements. You know, by 1562 01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:46.039 a bizarre coincidence, my cousin, my little Irish Catholic, redheaded cousin, 1563 01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:48.399 the girl you know, I was like fifteen years old, 1564 01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:51.319 worked in one of those pizzerias and she was answering 1565 01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:52.199 the phone over there. 1566 01:15:52.479 --> 01:15:53.359 So here I am. 1567 01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:55.720 Listening to these tapes and I'm saying, yeah, is that 1568 01:15:57.439 --> 01:16:00.199 my cousin? And we found out later on I got 1569 01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:02.640 Christmas dinner that it was my cousin was working at 1570 01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:04.399 one of these Pizza Connection pizzerias. 1571 01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:05.039 Uh. 1572 01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:07.760 So it was a huge trial. There's a bunch of convictions. 1573 01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:10.319 Rudy Giuliani was the prosecutor. That's the first time I 1574 01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:12.319 came across from Rudy Giuliani. And when I was a 1575 01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:15.039 kid later on because he was involved with Boat Deal 1576 01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:16.520 and Trump and all those guys later on too, So 1577 01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:20.000 I met him later on under more friendly circumstances. But 1578 01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:23.600 that's the first time in my contact with Rudy Commission 1579 01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:28.680 Commission front was the organized crime Paul Costelano and Semitable 1580 01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:31.960 Ravana and I N. L O. Della Croutche, all those guys. 1581 01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:34.479 That was the biggest organized crime case in New York City. 1582 01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:37.520 Long long before the days he came to national prominence, 1583 01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:41.600 you know, just repetitively screeching at US nine to eleven, 1584 01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:44.239 nine to eleven, nine to eleven, you know, while he 1585 01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:48.119 was allegedly running for president, long before that. We're talking 1586 01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:51.239 about when before he was even mayor. Actually they all 1587 01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:54.720 way before. Yeah, he was the prosecutor for the Northern District. 1588 01:16:56.079 --> 01:16:59.880 So yeah, you know, I had a long I'll tell you. 1589 01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:00.119 You know. 1590 01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:03.359 A funny thing too, is one of the companies I 1591 01:17:03.399 --> 01:17:07.479 had worked for was Action Research, which was the company 1592 01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:10.000 that they got in trouble. Actually they got in trouble 1593 01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:12.239 for it because they were the ones when HP was 1594 01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:16.399 trying to oust Carly Fierini out of her position at HP. 1595 01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:18.800 They were getting her phone records and stuff like that. 1596 01:17:18.840 --> 01:17:21.720 They had hired Action Research to get all her phone 1597 01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:23.000 records and a lot of stuff like that to get 1598 01:17:23.159 --> 01:17:24.920 I guess blackmail, dirt on I guess what they were 1599 01:17:24.920 --> 01:17:26.039 trying to do to get her out. 1600 01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:32.239 Right, right, right, that's an interesting story too. But no, 1601 01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:35.880 the pizza connection, you know, it was it was about, yes, 1602 01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:39.239 smuggling heroin, but it was really strange because the way 1603 01:17:39.279 --> 01:17:41.199 they were doing it was through these pizzerias, and in 1604 01:17:41.239 --> 01:17:44.680 a lot of cases the pizzerias weren't even making pizza. 1605 01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:48.119 It was some funny stuff you know, that was going on. 1606 01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:49.159 In some cases you. 1607 01:17:49.239 --> 01:17:52.039 Had you had home delivery, you had to call up 1608 01:17:52.079 --> 01:17:54.239 and make a special request, right, I mean it was 1609 01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:56.840 it was quite the operation, actually. 1610 01:17:57.000 --> 01:17:58.399 But you want to know what to Also, on the 1611 01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:00.319 other hand, there were some guys that got brought up 1612 01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:03.359 in that who were just innocent pizzerio own franchises of 1613 01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:04.119 these pizzerias. 1614 01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:06.239 Yeah, that was the other thing. 1615 01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:07.680 I mean, there was a bunch of guys who were 1616 01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:10.760 pizza delivery people that you know, we're getting you know, 1617 01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:13.439 ten bucks a day and all the tips that could 1618 01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:13.920 you know. 1619 01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:16.159 They could squeeze out of people and they. 1620 01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:18.920 Got caught up in it as well, completely you know, 1621 01:18:19.439 --> 01:18:23.439 unaware they were caught up in heroin distribution and everything else. 1622 01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:25.000 It was a massive, massive thing. 1623 01:18:27.399 --> 01:18:29.439 Yeah, I hear you, man, And I'm sure a lot 1624 01:18:29.439 --> 01:18:31.119 of guys walked on that. It's interesting. So I was 1625 01:18:31.159 --> 01:18:34.880 still going to a j Weberman because I remember it 1626 01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:37.920 back in the eighties hearing about a case. It was 1627 01:18:37.960 --> 01:18:40.319 either Gorpadal or Norman Mayle or one of these big 1628 01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:43.560 writers in New York City who was involved in a 1629 01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:49.279 multi hundred pound hashish deal in New York City and 1630 01:18:49.560 --> 01:18:51.840 they let him go and he said the reason was 1631 01:18:52.079 --> 01:18:54.000 is because he was working on a story for a 1632 01:18:54.079 --> 01:18:57.000 book and they did the charged him on. 1633 01:19:01.279 --> 01:19:03.760 Uh yeah, well maybe maybe. 1634 01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:08.800 I mean, you never New York justice has been so strange. 1635 01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:11.600 It's it's nothing like what you see in Los Angeles. 1636 01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:13.800 Los Angeles to me is like one of the most corrupt, 1637 01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:18.239 uh you know, local law enforcement slash justice systems you 1638 01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:21.560 see across across the country. It's like the exemplar of 1639 01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:24.800 what's wrong everywhere else. But New York is like this weird, 1640 01:19:24.920 --> 01:19:28.000 sort of quirky kind of handshaking, a wink kind of 1641 01:19:28.079 --> 01:19:31.680 deals being made all the time. Uh. And and and 1642 01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:33.199 that's the way it is. It's sort of like a 1643 01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:35.960 given in that area. And uh, you know, here here's 1644 01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:38.960 another thing. Nobody ever calls anything out on, right, uh, 1645 01:19:39.479 --> 01:19:42.479 except except when they want to bring up somebody's record, 1646 01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:45.800 like a Rudy Giuliani, who was you know, amazing because 1647 01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:50.359 he was the Italian who was actually a mob buster supposedly, right, uh, 1648 01:19:50.840 --> 01:19:52.000 interesting in that way, but. 1649 01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:55.720 Sorry, I just wanted to throw that in there. I 1650 01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:57.920 just think that he busted every family except for one. 1651 01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:03.520 Well, there you go, there's the caveat right, there's one 1652 01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:07.159 family that didn't seem to really catch it from the 1653 01:20:07.239 --> 01:20:08.279 Giuliani regime. 1654 01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:09.239 Which one was that? 1655 01:20:09.319 --> 01:20:09.520 Again? 1656 01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:17.000 It the one with the chin all right? Shut down 1657 01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:19.840 all the all the strip clubs in New York except 1658 01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:22.119 the ones that there were some that they weren't allowed 1659 01:20:22.159 --> 01:20:24.039 to stay open. But all of those guys shut down. 1660 01:20:25.079 --> 01:20:26.279 What a character that guy was? 1661 01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:30.279 Man, oh Gigante or Rudy, which one or both? 1662 01:20:31.159 --> 01:20:33.000 Rudy was when I was a kid, because the first 1663 01:20:33.039 --> 01:20:34.720 time I ran into Rudy Johanna, I was like nineteen 1664 01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:39.760 years old, you know, and it was an arrogant, arrogant guy, 1665 01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:42.039 you know, just because you know, you deal with attorneys 1666 01:20:42.039 --> 01:20:43.920 and prosecutors and stuff like that. Everybody's kind of friendly, 1667 01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:46.079 you get along. But this guy was just always like 1668 01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:47.960 a hard case man from the first time I ever 1669 01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:49.079 met him, a. 1670 01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:51.600 Hard case with a list. That was a strange thing 1671 01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:52.239 about him too. 1672 01:20:53.600 --> 01:20:55.279 He kind of got rid of it later on, but 1673 01:20:55.640 --> 01:20:57.840 I remember when he still had that affect to him 1674 01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:00.000 when he spoke and he had. 1675 01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:03.199 Really bad comb over, you know, I remem Yeah, there 1676 01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:05.640 was a press conference, a news conference out outside in 1677 01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:07.560 the wind, and it was like a garage door, like 1678 01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:11.000 like I heard of a car was up for the 1679 01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:11.760 wind there, you know. 1680 01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:16.399 God oh man, Yeah, that's true. He was kind of funny. 1681 01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:18.159 I was amazed that he made it to be mayor 1682 01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:21.079 interesting thing about him is when he was he used 1683 01:21:21.079 --> 01:21:23.439 to make these weird late night trips around the city, 1684 01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:27.119 like just go out for a ride, you know, and 1685 01:21:27.279 --> 01:21:28.319 go check things out. 1686 01:21:28.680 --> 01:21:30.520 I always found that really weird about him. 1687 01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:32.640 Yeah, it was really weird too that he had that 1688 01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:34.760 girlfriend that was like a newscast or something like that. 1689 01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:37.159 And then he he got into a fight with his 1690 01:21:37.279 --> 01:21:40.119 wife and he went out onto Gracing mansion outside the 1691 01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:41.479 gates and he had to held a news conference and 1692 01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:44.119 says I'm getting divorced, and his wife like barely knew 1693 01:21:44.119 --> 01:21:45.840 when he had to remove from the house. I had 1694 01:21:45.880 --> 01:21:50.000 a very bizarre guy man all the way around. Yeah, 1695 01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:51.560 how did he get that far? You wonder, you know, 1696 01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:52.760 someone like did he get that far? 1697 01:21:53.359 --> 01:21:55.800 Well? You know, then again if you only uh, if 1698 01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:58.319 you ignore certain people, I mean, it might help all 1699 01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:02.000 right anyway. Uh, it's one of those things where he 1700 01:22:02.159 --> 01:22:05.000 was put into a position and then disposed of, you know, 1701 01:22:05.159 --> 01:22:08.840 because he was never gonna I contend that no Italian. 1702 01:22:09.119 --> 01:22:11.279 I believe you'll see a female president. 1703 01:22:11.359 --> 01:22:15.640 You'll see a a an openly homosexual president before you'll 1704 01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:18.079 see an Italian president in this country, believe. 1705 01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:18.159 It or not. 1706 01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:21.760 That's maybe that's just my own personal contention, because no 1707 01:22:21.880 --> 01:22:24.279 matter what, one of the things that comes along with, 1708 01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:26.880 you know, having a vowel at the end of your 1709 01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:28.479 name is mob connection. 1710 01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:32.000 Uh it's implied, if not, you know, insinuated. 1711 01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:37.000 So Cuomo at his son's man. 1712 01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:41.159 Yeah, that's why I always crack up when somebody passes 1713 01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:45.399 me a clip of what is it Andy Cuomo giving 1714 01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:48.079 you the news? You know, this guy's giving you the news, 1715 01:22:48.279 --> 01:22:51.800 and and and meanwhile well, no, it's Chris Cuomo that 1716 01:22:51.840 --> 01:22:53.680 gives you the news. Andy Clomo is the governor, right, 1717 01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:57.159 And and remember there was the annoying kid that used 1718 01:22:57.199 --> 01:22:59.159 to bother his father at press conferences. Right. 1719 01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:01.399 It's kind of funny to me anyway. 1720 01:23:02.279 --> 01:23:06.680 Sorry, but no, to get back to it, though, I mean, 1721 01:23:07.039 --> 01:23:09.560 it's an interesting kind of a case. When you take 1722 01:23:09.600 --> 01:23:14.079 a look at at how the criminal justice system functioned 1723 01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:16.960 in New York and how it still functions to this day, 1724 01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:18.880 you know, it's pretty interesting. 1725 01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:20.520 You don't have the same kind of character as you 1726 01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:20.840 used to. 1727 01:23:20.960 --> 01:23:23.119 Though. One thing I give to Rudy is that he 1728 01:23:23.239 --> 01:23:27.359 was definitely again an entertaining guy. You know what I 1729 01:23:27.399 --> 01:23:29.840 have to leaving New York and now I deal with 1730 01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:34.319 the lawyers and prosecutors and police departments all over the country. 1731 01:23:36.119 --> 01:23:38.000 I miss it. You know, in New York City, you 1732 01:23:38.039 --> 01:23:40.680 had a certain kind of because the lawyers in New 1733 01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:44.560 York City kind of kept each other in check, you know, 1734 01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:46.279 and you had to really rise to the top of 1735 01:23:46.359 --> 01:23:49.279 New York. And I deal with some law firms now 1736 01:23:49.359 --> 01:23:52.399 that you would not believe, just they don't care at all. 1737 01:23:52.439 --> 01:23:54.560 They don't care about their clients, not even a little bit. 1738 01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:59.319 And there's no there's no getting a bad reputation because 1739 01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:01.520 all the other law firm doing it too, and all 1740 01:24:01.560 --> 01:24:03.680 these fly by night lawyers just running around running their 1741 01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:06.079 business off their cell phone. I don't even have an 1742 01:24:06.159 --> 01:24:10.239 office or receptionist or anything like that. That would never 1743 01:24:10.359 --> 01:24:12.399 fly back in New York or back by that now, 1744 01:24:12.520 --> 01:24:15.279 when you could never get away with something like that. Yeah, 1745 01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:16.840 you had to have a nice office. 1746 01:24:16.920 --> 01:24:19.439 You had to have, you know, some kind of clout, 1747 01:24:19.520 --> 01:24:22.560 you had to have, you know, well, to function in 1748 01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:24.600 New York or anywhere in the Tri state area. 1749 01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:28.039 You had to have connections, because that's. 1750 01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:28.600 Really what it was about. 1751 01:24:28.680 --> 01:24:31.720 You know, Like when I went into courtroom situations and 1752 01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:33.279 I was dealing with somebody who had been you know, 1753 01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:35.640 one of the governor's lawyers at some point or whatever, 1754 01:24:36.439 --> 01:24:38.479 you knew that this was a guy who already had 1755 01:24:38.520 --> 01:24:40.079 the deck stacked in his favor. 1756 01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:42.000 This kind of thing, you know, yeah, right, because he 1757 01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:45.960 helped get the judge elected. Exactly when I was twenty 1758 01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:50.000 five years old, I had we had a case and 1759 01:24:50.760 --> 01:24:53.600 me and one of both degals guys, there was an 1760 01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:57.880 affidavit that we knew was forged. They had taken an 1761 01:24:57.960 --> 01:25:01.880 added paragraphs in between the signature page and the front page. 1762 01:25:03.079 --> 01:25:06.600 And so we went in and well interviewed the woman 1763 01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:08.439 who signed the affidave and we got on tape. You know, 1764 01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:10.279 I never done them a sinuce in the a sinus. 1765 01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:12.600 So we got that lawyer. I was twenty five years 1766 01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:14.680 old and we got that lawyer in New York City, 1767 01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:17.920 dispart I can tell you right now, with that same 1768 01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:20.520 tape recording and that same evidence that I have then 1769 01:25:21.399 --> 01:25:24.399 with nothing would happen now today, it would do nothing. 1770 01:25:25.680 --> 01:25:28.960 It would be like it doesn't exist. And I've seen 1771 01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:32.000 things I you know, you hear people call you up 1772 01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:33.479 and I tell you these stories about oh ed Man. 1773 01:25:33.560 --> 01:25:37.000 You know, the court transcripts were changed, and years ago 1774 01:25:37.039 --> 01:25:38.920 I would say, I don't believe it, you know, and 1775 01:25:39.079 --> 01:25:42.439 I've seen I've seen it now. I've seen this evidence disappear, 1776 01:25:43.439 --> 01:25:49.640 transcripts changed, you know, in the record. I just stuff 1777 01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:52.720 you would not believe. You know that You think when 1778 01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:54.159 when a client tells you, it's kind of when they 1779 01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:55.760 start talking and start telling you what, Oh you don't 1780 01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:56.720 how bad my cases? 1781 01:25:57.159 --> 01:25:57.319 You know? 1782 01:25:57.520 --> 01:25:59.840 And now I know these things do happen. It happens 1783 01:25:59.840 --> 01:26:00.720 all of this country. 1784 01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:03.720 Oh right, I mean I'll give you a quick example. 1785 01:26:04.079 --> 01:26:07.479 You know Scott Enyard, who took photographs the night Bobby 1786 01:26:07.520 --> 01:26:10.520 Kennedy was killed, right, the LA police ended up. 1787 01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:12.319 You're familiar with him, right, sure? 1788 01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:15.840 Yeah, So interestingly, you know, they tell him come back 1789 01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:17.800 in twenty five years and come get your pictures, and 1790 01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:18.960 he doesn't think anything of it. 1791 01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:19.680 That's what he does. 1792 01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:22.720 When he shows back up and you know, demands to 1793 01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:24.600 have his pictures, they tell him they were destroyed. Then 1794 01:26:24.600 --> 01:26:27.159 they tell him they found something. Then they hire a 1795 01:26:27.279 --> 01:26:30.680 courier to deliver it, you know, to the court where 1796 01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:33.520 the case is being heard, because he's now suing you know, 1797 01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:38.520 Los Angeles County, right, And the courier allegedly makes a 1798 01:26:38.560 --> 01:26:41.399 stop somewhere and gets you know, robbed on the way 1799 01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:45.079 to bringing evidence to the court, and therefore his pictures 1800 01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:46.640 are you know, completely gone. 1801 01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:47.359 That's the end of it. 1802 01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:49.680 No, Well, there was a fire, there's a flood, you know, 1803 01:26:50.479 --> 01:26:54.920 you know whatever. Every other document in their office is fine, 1804 01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:57.119 but there's a fire that one file you're looking for 1805 01:26:57.359 --> 01:27:01.039 is god, exactly happens all the time. It's it's not 1806 01:27:01.119 --> 01:27:04.159 even funny that that's what we're dealing with these days, 1807 01:27:04.520 --> 01:27:08.520 that it is good to see a lot of guys, 1808 01:27:09.119 --> 01:27:12.840 like civilians that aren't attorneys or investigator, you know, making 1809 01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:15.520 these that are reporters now, you know, using the Foyer 1810 01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:17.840 requests and stuff like that to get documents and stuff. 1811 01:27:18.199 --> 01:27:20.640 Uh that it feels because back, you know, thirty years ago, 1812 01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:22.920 no one was doing that kind of stuff. So it's 1813 01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:25.119 I like to see that. You know that you've seen 1814 01:27:25.199 --> 01:27:27.439 more and more. That's the people going to the the 1815 01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:29.800 archives and the Congressional record and stuff like that and 1816 01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:33.600 getting stuff pulled and doing stories and stuff. Ag was 1817 01:27:33.680 --> 01:27:36.880 just telling me about how we he got some undeveloped 1818 01:27:36.920 --> 01:27:39.560 film that Oswald had, you know, and he got a 1819 01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:42.399 high resolution scan of Oswald's address book, you know, and 1820 01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:45.199 he decoded it and stuff. So I like to see 1821 01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:46.279 that kind of stuff nowadays. 1822 01:27:47.079 --> 01:27:49.640 All right, I know about that film that that that's 1823 01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:55.399 someone that that had all these interesting photographs which sort 1824 01:27:55.439 --> 01:27:57.239 of changed the story a bit. When you take a 1825 01:27:57.279 --> 01:27:59.479 look at where Oswald's supposed to have been during certain 1826 01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:03.239 time period, it's and it's interesting. A lot of times 1827 01:28:03.399 --> 01:28:05.960 you can't get hold of this evidence and Foyer requests 1828 01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:09.720 have gone so far at this point. But I think 1829 01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:11.840 the more, the more we can yank out of their hands. 1830 01:28:11.880 --> 01:28:13.199 And the more we can make them bring to the 1831 01:28:13.279 --> 01:28:16.039 light of day, the better, you know, regardless of what 1832 01:28:16.119 --> 01:28:19.439 the result is. Because after all, look, and I know 1833 01:28:19.560 --> 01:28:22.119 this sounds kind of ridiculous, but if this stuff is 1834 01:28:22.199 --> 01:28:26.000 being collected on your behalf and you're the citizens, uh 1835 01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:27.960 you know, aren't you entitled to it? 1836 01:28:28.399 --> 01:28:29.000 You know what I mean? 1837 01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:30.840 Yeah, and we got to keep the pressure of no 1838 01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:35.920 matter what. Absolutely so yeah, no, and you do have 1839 01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:40.399 a lot of a serious you know, uh uh mona fides. 1840 01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:43.079 Let's just say as as somebody who is an investigator, 1841 01:28:43.159 --> 01:28:45.000 I mean, you're you're definitely not a joke. 1842 01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:45.760 And you still do that. 1843 01:28:45.920 --> 01:28:48.680 By the way, Uh, people can hire you as a 1844 01:28:48.680 --> 01:28:50.239 private investigator. Still can't think? 1845 01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:52.960 Oh yeah, you can always email me at the Opperman 1846 01:28:53.079 --> 01:28:56.239 Investigations at gmail dot com. I got a website called 1847 01:28:56.319 --> 01:28:58.800 email revealer dot com. You can go online in place 1848 01:28:58.840 --> 01:29:02.119 in order I invented it search where you can if 1849 01:29:02.159 --> 01:29:05.399 you give me your boyfriend's email address for your girlfriends, 1850 01:29:05.720 --> 01:29:08.279 I could trace that back to online dating websites and 1851 01:29:08.439 --> 01:29:11.359 catch them and cheating online. So I was doing this 1852 01:29:11.479 --> 01:29:14.640 way before the whole thing, this big scandal with Ashley Madison, 1853 01:29:14.720 --> 01:29:18.840 you know. And as a matter of fact, I was 1854 01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:21.680 finding people cheating way before this whole thing happened, and 1855 01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:27.439 I was finding people on Ashley Madison, you know, and 1856 01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:29.920 they used to I guess they were hiring me too 1857 01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:32.279 to find out how I was doing it, because what 1858 01:29:32.359 --> 01:29:34.520 they would do is they would they they used to 1859 01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:36.680 run an ad saying that once you're on Ashley Madison, 1860 01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:38.680 no one can catch a cheating on here, and then 1861 01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:41.039 they would they would hire me like through a pretext, 1862 01:29:41.119 --> 01:29:43.159 and I would catch them on there. I trace the 1863 01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:46.119 email back and then they would change the ad, and 1864 01:29:46.199 --> 01:29:50.039 then they changed their website back. I would have forgot 1865 01:29:50.079 --> 01:29:51.960 a new way to do it, and then they'd change 1866 01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:54.279 it back again. So it was I had a whole 1867 01:29:54.279 --> 01:29:56.520 little thing going on with them for quite a few years. 1868 01:29:57.399 --> 01:29:59.239 You see a bunch of things actually that you've been 1869 01:29:59.279 --> 01:30:02.359 involved in, you know, talk talk to me a little 1870 01:30:02.359 --> 01:30:05.640 bit about the Tupac feel though, because that has always 1871 01:30:05.720 --> 01:30:06.399 fascinated me. 1872 01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:12.000 You know, It's it's one of those deals where, you know, 1873 01:30:12.479 --> 01:30:13.560 it seemed. 1874 01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:16.880 As though because both both the murders of him and 1875 01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:21.039 and Chris Wallace, you know, Big Small's uh really were 1876 01:30:22.600 --> 01:30:26.119 just really bizarre again, another one of these crazy circumstances 1877 01:30:26.199 --> 01:30:30.199 where uh, you know, it was a sign of the times. 1878 01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:32.520 I mean, people forget about the East Coast, West Coast 1879 01:30:32.640 --> 01:30:34.279 rap beefs and all that nowadays. 1880 01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:38.439 But at the same time, it seemed as though there 1881 01:30:38.560 --> 01:30:39.640 was a lot more to it. 1882 01:30:39.800 --> 01:30:42.960 There was h there was definitely like uh and and 1883 01:30:43.039 --> 01:30:46.199 there always has been this effort to destroy artists who 1884 01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:50.840 are saying things that are again counterintuitive to the establishment. So, 1885 01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:52.720 I mean, I'm kind of attracted to that story, but 1886 01:30:52.760 --> 01:30:55.760 I've never known exactly what to make of it, even 1887 01:30:55.800 --> 01:30:58.279 though I've had possession of the uh, you know, the 1888 01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:00.600 audio from the from the all Time and all that 1889 01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:04.560 kind of stuff in the past. You know, it's it's 1890 01:31:04.640 --> 01:31:06.600 one of those things I've never been able to put together. 1891 01:31:06.680 --> 01:31:08.520 I mean, if you wouldn't mind talking about that a 1892 01:31:08.560 --> 01:31:08.920 little bit. 1893 01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:13.359 Well, you know, the guy the guest on that is 1894 01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:18.000 John Potash, who wrote the book The FBI War on Tupac. 1895 01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:22.319 M hm. You know Tupac, his whole history, you know, 1896 01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:27.960 did you know that this guy was His family was 1897 01:31:28.760 --> 01:31:34.359 Black Panther Party Royalty. His father is Motulla Shakur, who 1898 01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:38.479 was a part of the New African, the Republican New Africa, 1899 01:31:39.680 --> 01:31:42.479 and I actually met him by coincidence because he used 1900 01:31:42.479 --> 01:31:44.640 to come up to w BAI back in the seventies. 1901 01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:48.039 And then what happened was is that Brink's robbery happened 1902 01:31:48.079 --> 01:31:50.960 with the BLA and the Weather Underground remnants robbed that 1903 01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:56.960 Brinx truck and they busted Matulla Shakur for being involved 1904 01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:00.680 in that. And the only charges they had against him 1905 01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:04.119 because he ran an acupuncture center in Manhattan in Harlem 1906 01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:07.359 to cure people of drug addiction. Wasn't any kind of 1907 01:32:07.439 --> 01:32:11.800 a bank robb or anything like that whatsoever. But this 1908 01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:13.720 guy got forty years in prison. He's in prison right 1909 01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:16.880 now because he was supposed to receive some money from 1910 01:32:16.880 --> 01:32:21.159 that bank robbery, from that armored car robbery. And his 1911 01:32:21.319 --> 01:32:24.520 mother is a big black panther, his uncle is a 1912 01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:30.000 big black panther, his stepfather, so Tupac Shakur was heavily 1913 01:32:30.079 --> 01:32:34.319 involved in a black panther party. He saw a couple 1914 01:32:34.399 --> 01:32:36.760 of cops beating up a guy and he shot one 1915 01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:39.720 of the cops and in self defense and he got 1916 01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:43.279 away with it, you know, And so I believe that, 1917 01:32:43.479 --> 01:32:45.159 and then too, when you get into the day of 1918 01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:49.600 the assassination. So much stuff happened where they these different 1919 01:32:49.680 --> 01:32:52.760 guards and different security guards, and they didn't have walkie talkies, 1920 01:32:53.239 --> 01:32:55.920 and half of the guys were what police undercovered, cops 1921 01:32:55.920 --> 01:32:58.720 and police informists, all kind of stuff. I trace it 1922 01:32:58.880 --> 01:33:02.439 back to a night and that's when as soon as 1923 01:33:02.479 --> 01:33:04.199 I mentioned that in that first show we did about 1924 01:33:04.239 --> 01:33:06.920 the Tupaksha Court murder, and I said, I thought it 1925 01:33:07.000 --> 01:33:08.680 was Sugar Knight. I thought it was a smart idea 1926 01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:10.720 to take a copy of that tape and post it 1927 01:33:10.760 --> 01:33:12.239 on Sugar Knight's Facebook page. 1928 01:33:14.159 --> 01:33:17.279 Oh boy, yeah, so what happened there? 1929 01:33:17.279 --> 01:33:20.680 Because I know Sugar is definitely not the kind of 1930 01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:24.159 guy who likes who's going to sit still or his 1931 01:33:24.279 --> 01:33:26.600 people aren't going to sit still, I should say when you. 1932 01:33:26.640 --> 01:33:29.560 Say something like that, But good, Yeah, it was his people. 1933 01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:32.039 And I actually ran into him once at his lawyer's 1934 01:33:32.079 --> 01:33:33.880 office here in Las Vegas, because you know, we're both 1935 01:33:33.920 --> 01:33:35.800 in Las Vegas, and so I you know, I shook 1936 01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:37.840 hands with the guy who's years and years ago. But 1937 01:33:38.199 --> 01:33:39.439 so I thought it was a good idea. Hey, you 1938 01:33:39.479 --> 01:33:42.840 know what this everyone's talking about it right to discussion, 1939 01:33:43.359 --> 01:33:45.680 and all of his buddies He never came to me 1940 01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:48.479 himself and threatened my life, but everyone who knew him 1941 01:33:48.600 --> 01:33:51.039 that was very unhappy with me. It's funny you mentioned 1942 01:33:51.079 --> 01:33:52.640 the other time I had a real problem. The only 1943 01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:57.039 real problems was was that time. And when I had 1944 01:33:57.319 --> 01:34:01.560 Mayor Jim Rothstein, who's a former NY detective and now 1945 01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:04.079 he's a mayor of a town up in the Wisconsin. 1946 01:34:04.720 --> 01:34:07.039 A fascinating guy. He worked on the Processed Church case 1947 01:34:07.159 --> 01:34:09.279 or the Son of Sam cases and all that kind 1948 01:34:09.279 --> 01:34:11.039 of stuff, but he did a lot of organized crime 1949 01:34:11.079 --> 01:34:13.600 cases as well. That he arrested them. You know, Jim Rostin, 1950 01:34:13.760 --> 01:34:15.159 I wanted to talking. I'm telling you a bunch of mars. 1951 01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:17.359 Yeah, no, it's okay. The listeners need to know. I 1952 01:34:17.439 --> 01:34:17.920 know who he is. 1953 01:34:19.520 --> 01:34:21.640 I forget what I was talking to you. So he 1954 01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:24.920 arrested Frank Sturgis and supposed these Jurgis confessed and when 1955 01:34:24.960 --> 01:34:29.560 he when he what he calls a polygraph, Yeah, a 1956 01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:34.119 thirty eight caliber polygraph test on Frank Sturgis. There, but 1957 01:34:35.439 --> 01:34:42.000 talking about the French connection heroin robbery in New York 1958 01:34:42.079 --> 01:34:45.479 City and in Staten Island and stuff like that, it's 1959 01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:49.279 pretty well known who stole the French connection Heroin and 1960 01:34:49.359 --> 01:34:51.520 then later on they went and they invested on a 1961 01:34:51.560 --> 01:34:53.159 bunch of video stores in New York and then they 1962 01:34:53.239 --> 01:34:58.840 sold it. Later on it became Blockbuster Video. Okay, were 1963 01:34:58.920 --> 01:35:01.279 behind it, you know, So we were talking about that, 1964 01:35:01.399 --> 01:35:03.039 so I again, I thought it would be a good 1965 01:35:03.079 --> 01:35:06.720 idea to post that in Staten Island Memories, a Facebook 1966 01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:10.520 page and say, hey, anybody remember these stories. We're talking 1967 01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:11.880 a lot of old people on Staten Island if you 1968 01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:14.680 don't want to, you know, because Mike high school shop 1969 01:35:14.760 --> 01:35:17.920 teacher was a Bartholomew Cod who was the brother of 1970 01:35:17.960 --> 01:35:21.600 the police commissioner. Uh I guess was Ed Cod was 1971 01:35:21.680 --> 01:35:24.640 the commission back in the seventies. So we were talking 1972 01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:26.560 about him, we were talking about the French connection case. 1973 01:35:26.880 --> 01:35:29.319 And I posted this on Standout and that then I 1974 01:35:29.359 --> 01:35:31.359 got a lot of threats at that time too, that 1975 01:35:31.439 --> 01:35:33.319 they didn't like me talking out of turn, that I 1976 01:35:33.399 --> 01:35:35.840 was speaking h when I should not things I should 1977 01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:37.960 not be speaking about. Yeah, you you were speaking out 1978 01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:38.840 of school right there. 1979 01:35:38.960 --> 01:35:41.640 Because and that was a whole weird thing too. 1980 01:35:41.760 --> 01:35:46.159 It wasn't directly Blockbuster video, but what it became Blockbuster video. 1981 01:35:47.640 --> 01:35:50.880 Yeah, the guys we well, you know, I guess everybody 1982 01:35:50.920 --> 01:35:53.199 knows that. But yeah, the guys who made all that money, 1983 01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:56.800 you know, we had a great, big chain of video stores. 1984 01:35:57.640 --> 01:35:59.439 So yeah, those are pretty much the only two times. 1985 01:35:59.439 --> 01:36:01.720 And oh you know what, just recently, I had a 1986 01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:07.399 big crazy thing with this this Hempstead satanic ritual abuse 1987 01:36:07.479 --> 01:36:10.439 case in the UNA if. 1988 01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:13.840 Those are always dicey, because you know, there's a lot 1989 01:36:13.920 --> 01:36:16.520 of strange things to go on with these satanic ritual 1990 01:36:16.560 --> 01:36:19.920 abuse deals. And you know the satanic panic that we 1991 01:36:20.039 --> 01:36:24.079 experienced in America, you know back in the early what 1992 01:36:24.239 --> 01:36:26.000 was it, the late eighties, early nineties. I mean you 1993 01:36:26.119 --> 01:36:28.520 recall that, uh, you know, at the height of it, 1994 01:36:28.800 --> 01:36:31.319 Heraldo Rivera is doing a special on it, which was 1995 01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:35.239 a complete joke, but not quite as bad as the 1996 01:36:35.239 --> 01:36:40.680 al Capone special anyway, But now you know what I'm saying, Yeah. 1997 01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:43.600 Let me ask you about Heraldo Rivera. It always struck me. 1998 01:36:43.920 --> 01:36:48.119 Heraldo Rivera. He left ABC because he did a story 1999 01:36:48.239 --> 01:36:51.199 about the Marlon and Roe murder. Uh, and then they 2000 01:36:51.239 --> 01:36:54.840 went to air it, and then he quit and he disappeared, 2001 01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:59.640 and he came back a multi multi millionaire, owning a helicopter, 2002 01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:05.039 owning an island in Puerto Rico, owning two newspapers on 2003 01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:08.439 East coast, and it always struck me that some kind 2004 01:37:08.439 --> 01:37:09.600 of deal was made with that guy. 2005 01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:13.840 Well, he was tiptoeing around a lot of interesting stories 2006 01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:17.600 and things in the seventies, you know, most famously, and 2007 01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:19.720 I've discussed this on my show several times. I mean 2008 01:37:20.079 --> 01:37:23.039 on Good Night America is where is where the majority 2009 01:37:23.079 --> 01:37:25.000 of the country got their first look at the Zabruta 2010 01:37:25.079 --> 01:37:27.520 film and the Kennedy assassination, you know, And that was 2011 01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:31.079 Roaldo Rivera hosting the show, right, you know, And he 2012 01:37:31.199 --> 01:37:33.880 tiptoed around a lot of really interesting stories when he 2013 01:37:33.960 --> 01:37:34.479 came back. 2014 01:37:34.760 --> 01:37:37.239 I would definitely say a deal was made. Not because 2015 01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:38.399 he came up with all that money. 2016 01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:41.439 I don't know the circumstances there, you know, that would 2017 01:37:41.479 --> 01:37:43.039 be the kind of thing that you could dig into it. 2018 01:37:43.640 --> 01:37:46.640 But I don't know all the stories as to how 2019 01:37:46.720 --> 01:37:48.880 that came about. But the fact that he comes back 2020 01:37:49.600 --> 01:37:54.159 as first as a sort of an establishment joke, you know, 2021 01:37:54.359 --> 01:37:58.800 not really covering anything serious, you know, sort of sorry 2022 01:37:58.840 --> 01:38:01.199 to say, but half passing his way through a lot 2023 01:38:01.279 --> 01:38:03.720 of very serious stories and stuff like that, and then 2024 01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:07.520 winds up landing on places like Fox, you know, later 2025 01:38:07.640 --> 01:38:10.399 on and everything else. It seems as though he was told, 2026 01:38:11.039 --> 01:38:13.880 you know, stay away from the real controversies, you know. 2027 01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:16.800 Yeah, because he had one of those afternoon's talk shows 2028 01:38:17.359 --> 01:38:20.199 that was like Oprah and Phil Donahue, but but even 2029 01:38:20.319 --> 01:38:24.279 more like more like Carnie you know, Oh yeah, who 2030 01:38:24.359 --> 01:38:27.439 think that girl the one anyway? 2031 01:38:28.359 --> 01:38:32.520 What Sally Sally, Jesse Raphael who were talking about, like one. 2032 01:38:32.439 --> 01:38:34.760 Of those I'm trying to think of the other one 2033 01:38:34.840 --> 01:38:37.640 that she was. She was in that movie Ricky Lake, 2034 01:38:37.960 --> 01:38:40.680 Ricky Lake. There you go, man, Yeah, yeah, he had 2035 01:38:40.800 --> 01:38:43.399 he had one of those kind of shows in the afternoon, 2036 01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:45.720 you know, and now look at him. 2037 01:38:46.319 --> 01:38:48.239 Yeah, he did all of it based on the Phil 2038 01:38:48.279 --> 01:38:51.600 Donahue kind of style, which Oprah picked up on later, 2039 01:38:51.720 --> 01:38:54.159 which was the big audience you know, hey, let's take 2040 01:38:54.279 --> 01:38:57.760 questions from the audience. Who's sitting right here again, completely 2041 01:38:57.840 --> 01:39:00.199 juxtaposed to the likes of a Morton Downey junior here 2042 01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:03.760 who who I'm sorry that they're that guy was quite. 2043 01:39:03.680 --> 01:39:07.479 Entertaining, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, that was thrilling, 2044 01:39:07.600 --> 01:39:10.119 you know, TV, you know channel mind, you know, in 2045 01:39:10.159 --> 01:39:12.439 the middle of the night, you know, and that's exactly. 2046 01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:13.239 Yeah. 2047 01:39:14.479 --> 01:39:16.600 But anyway, like like you were saying, it is weird 2048 01:39:16.640 --> 01:39:19.319 to watch him come back out though in a completely 2049 01:39:19.359 --> 01:39:23.199 different fashion. Uh you know again no longer addressing the 2050 01:39:23.319 --> 01:39:27.880 real sort of uh uh rough edges of investigative journalism. 2051 01:39:27.960 --> 01:39:32.960 It was all gone, Yeah, he's supporting Trump. What does 2052 01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:38.720 that tell you? I know, yeah, it's just mind blowing, 2053 01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:40.840 you know. But on the other hand, I'll tell you this, 2054 01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:42.800 you know, because I know like a lot of guys 2055 01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:46.399 from court, TV and stuff, you know, for years, and uh, 2056 01:39:46.680 --> 01:39:50.319 when you talk to them, like they believe like a 2057 01:39:50.359 --> 01:39:51.920 lot of people say, well, all these guys, you know, 2058 01:39:52.079 --> 01:39:53.920 they are in on it. They're in on the big secret. 2059 01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:56.279 They're all part of the act, the crisis actors or whatever. 2060 01:39:56.760 --> 01:39:58.720 But I can a lot of these guys they believe 2061 01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:02.239 that like nine to eleven was nineteen Arab hijackers, you know, 2062 01:40:04.319 --> 01:40:06.239 And they tell me off the cuff. Whenever I get 2063 01:40:06.279 --> 01:40:07.760 on a plane, I look around to see if there's 2064 01:40:07.760 --> 01:40:11.399 anybody suspicious, if there's anybody looks Arab because I look around. 2065 01:40:11.800 --> 01:40:14.239 So they really believe it with a straight face. 2066 01:40:14.720 --> 01:40:20.039 Yeah, I'm always dumbfounded by people like that because I 2067 01:40:20.199 --> 01:40:22.239 run into him on occasion, you know, in a grocery 2068 01:40:22.279 --> 01:40:24.760 store or something like that, and they talk about, you know, 2069 01:40:24.920 --> 01:40:28.600 Obama's a Muslim, and I'm afraid because, you know, because 2070 01:40:28.640 --> 01:40:30.680 he supports the guys who you know, hit us on 2071 01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:32.359 nine to eleven, and he's not going to stop the 2072 01:40:32.439 --> 01:40:34.720 next attack. And I was listening to that for years. 2073 01:40:35.479 --> 01:40:38.000 You know, people that believe, you know, first of all, 2074 01:40:38.039 --> 01:40:42.479 that Obama's you know, a Muslim and that that would matter, 2075 01:40:42.600 --> 01:40:45.880 and secondly that it was nineteen Arab hijackers who pulled 2076 01:40:45.920 --> 01:40:48.680 off this amazing feat on September eleventh. 2077 01:40:49.159 --> 01:40:50.920 I'm sorry, I can't go with it. 2078 01:40:51.319 --> 01:40:51.600 Guys. 2079 01:40:52.119 --> 01:40:55.039 It's it's just implausible to me. 2080 01:40:55.920 --> 01:40:58.560 Well, everybody I've ever talked to, that's mech Obama that 2081 01:40:58.640 --> 01:41:01.720 would know says he says CIA creation, which is what 2082 01:41:01.840 --> 01:41:02.279 I believe. 2083 01:41:02.840 --> 01:41:05.079 Oh I believe that myself. You know. 2084 01:41:05.159 --> 01:41:07.079 You take a look again, take a look at his parents. 2085 01:41:07.920 --> 01:41:11.239 But step aside from that, I mean, he was perfectly 2086 01:41:11.319 --> 01:41:14.279 well packaged. He was sold to us exactly like they 2087 01:41:14.319 --> 01:41:17.920 would sell us a Manchurian candidate of sorts, you know, 2088 01:41:19.359 --> 01:41:20.039 hope and change. 2089 01:41:20.079 --> 01:41:25.880 Remember that, yea, and his paperwork sucks too, you know, and. 2090 01:41:25.960 --> 01:41:28.960 A community organizer of all things a sends to become 2091 01:41:29.399 --> 01:41:31.960 the president of the United States. I'm sorry, you know 2092 01:41:32.079 --> 01:41:34.479 if that doesn't speak to the fact that that office 2093 01:41:34.520 --> 01:41:35.680 has become quite the joke. 2094 01:41:36.079 --> 01:41:36.840 What can I say? 2095 01:41:37.720 --> 01:41:39.359 Well, I know what you're saying, and I've said that 2096 01:41:39.439 --> 01:41:41.720 all along myself. I've been there, had the same kind 2097 01:41:41.720 --> 01:41:44.119 of attitude, it didn't matter who was in there. But 2098 01:41:44.520 --> 01:41:48.439 talking recently to some sources, I do believe that Obama 2099 01:41:48.520 --> 01:41:52.119 has been making policy, at least as far as our 2100 01:41:52.159 --> 01:41:57.880 relationship with Israel. And met in Yahoo, and another thing 2101 01:41:57.920 --> 01:42:01.880 I heard was that next, yeah, who believes with all 2102 01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:04.119 his heart that he could run for president in the 2103 01:42:04.199 --> 01:42:06.600 United States and he would win, you know, not not 2104 01:42:06.760 --> 01:42:10.079 the birth certificate, not that he's qualified too, because he was. 2105 01:42:10.319 --> 01:42:12.119 He was a ussistant for a long time, and he 2106 01:42:12.199 --> 01:42:13.640 was born in Israel and moved here and lived here 2107 01:42:13.680 --> 01:42:14.279 most of his life. 2108 01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:16.439 But he believes that he could run for president here 2109 01:42:16.479 --> 01:42:21.720 and we would win. I you know, I don't know 2110 01:42:21.760 --> 01:42:25.159 about that. I think there's way too much of an underpinning. 2111 01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:26.680 And you know what I think about this when I 2112 01:42:26.840 --> 01:42:29.600 when I look at and listen to Bernie Sanders. Uh, 2113 01:42:30.039 --> 01:42:32.279 you know the fact that he has that Jackie Mason 2114 01:42:32.439 --> 01:42:35.760 esque cadence to his speech A little bit, you know, 2115 01:42:35.920 --> 01:42:39.079 makes me think that there is definitely a hardcore base 2116 01:42:39.159 --> 01:42:41.880 in this country that they wouldn't buy it if this 2117 01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:43.399 guy even stole the election. 2118 01:42:43.960 --> 01:42:45.920 You know, I do know. 2119 01:42:46.079 --> 01:42:47.800 But but by nett Yeah, who I meant that. Not 2120 01:42:47.880 --> 01:42:49.479 that I believe he would win, but Netton, now, who 2121 01:42:49.520 --> 01:42:51.920 believes he would win. He's convinced that he would win. Here. 2122 01:42:52.159 --> 01:42:53.800 And I know what you're saying. There is that kind 2123 01:42:53.840 --> 01:42:57.359 of races and that kind of bigotry against the you know, Bernie, 2124 01:42:57.359 --> 01:43:00.319 he's a Jew, you know. Yeah, And uh, you know, 2125 01:43:01.560 --> 01:43:03.159 it's a good question. 2126 01:43:03.399 --> 01:43:06.279 I don't know. Well, I'll tell you this. 2127 01:43:06.479 --> 01:43:08.880 You know, we're we're running a long time, and we're 2128 01:43:08.920 --> 01:43:12.359 almost almost done here. And I give you, I give 2129 01:43:12.439 --> 01:43:14.960 you my my estimation of what's going on with Trump. 2130 01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:16.640 I think he's a lightning rod. I think he's been 2131 01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:19.479 put into place to keep everybody busy. Uh, you know, 2132 01:43:19.640 --> 01:43:23.359 the the clown before the elephants and the jackasses are 2133 01:43:23.399 --> 01:43:25.600 presented for the children to pet as they go around 2134 01:43:25.640 --> 01:43:25.920 the ring. 2135 01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:29.520 Uh, That's what I think has happened here. And I 2136 01:43:29.640 --> 01:43:31.760 really think that eventually we're going. 2137 01:43:31.760 --> 01:43:35.079 To be confronted with uh, you know, possibly not Clinton, 2138 01:43:35.159 --> 01:43:37.479 because she's put such a bad taste in the mouth 2139 01:43:37.520 --> 01:43:40.279 of the majority of the American public and continues to 2140 01:43:40.399 --> 01:43:43.520 do so with their elitist attitude, which is brazen I 2141 01:43:43.640 --> 01:43:47.840 think in public. But you know, I think it's irrelevant 2142 01:43:47.840 --> 01:43:51.199 because the Republican side of the equation is is due 2143 01:43:51.319 --> 01:43:56.239 to occupy the office, and I figure that the selection still, 2144 01:43:56.359 --> 01:43:59.600 even though everybody says I'm crazy, is is Jeb Bush 2145 01:43:59.680 --> 01:44:02.119 and they're going to resurrect him weekend to Bernie's style 2146 01:44:02.560 --> 01:44:05.560 and drag his campaign out and present him as the 2147 01:44:05.680 --> 01:44:09.079 same choice after Donald Trump has already done all of 2148 01:44:09.159 --> 01:44:10.880 his confetti throwing. 2149 01:44:10.840 --> 01:44:14.800 And Seltzer bottle spray. Uh, that's really what I see here, 2150 01:44:15.039 --> 01:44:19.439 and wondering how you see it. That's a possibility, okay, 2151 01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:23.319 and it's a very serious possibility. And I think even 2152 01:44:23.439 --> 01:44:25.520 Ron Paul was kind of to rub it in our 2153 01:44:25.560 --> 01:44:28.119 face to say, hey, look, man, he won every debate. 2154 01:44:28.560 --> 01:44:30.640 You all want him, We're not gonna let you have him. 2155 01:44:31.119 --> 01:44:32.960 And they could be doing the same thing with Bernie 2156 01:44:33.159 --> 01:44:34.720 ten times even more, just to rub it in our 2157 01:44:34.720 --> 01:44:37.399 face because they're doing a lot of stuff like they 2158 01:44:37.560 --> 01:44:40.520 made the pope quit, you know, to lose lose faith 2159 01:44:40.560 --> 01:44:41.039 in the pope. 2160 01:44:41.399 --> 01:44:44.840 You know, his brother or whatever wound up and broiled 2161 01:44:44.880 --> 01:44:47.560 in that uh, you know, in that sex scandal. So 2162 01:44:47.640 --> 01:44:49.439 I mean, I think that was meant to get ahead 2163 01:44:49.439 --> 01:44:49.600 of that. 2164 01:44:51.119 --> 01:44:53.800 Not sure I agree with him with that, tim you know, 2165 01:44:53.880 --> 01:44:55.239 but but I think they wanted they want us to 2166 01:44:55.319 --> 01:44:59.159 lose faith, faith in institutions. And just how they would 2167 01:44:59.199 --> 01:45:02.520 put a guy named Obama, you know, who's you know, 2168 01:45:02.880 --> 01:45:07.359 questionable background, whose name rhyme's with Osama bin laden public 2169 01:45:07.399 --> 01:45:10.039 I made number one. But I don't think that's an 2170 01:45:10.039 --> 01:45:14.479 accident in our coincidence either. But call me Charlie Brown, okay, 2171 01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:18.079 and you can be Lucy, and I'm gonna run up 2172 01:45:18.079 --> 01:45:20.239 and try and kick that ball this time. I think, 2173 01:45:21.119 --> 01:45:22.159 you know, you can pull it away. 2174 01:45:22.239 --> 01:45:22.399 Man. 2175 01:45:22.760 --> 01:45:26.800 But I think listen, I got a kid right now 2176 01:45:26.960 --> 01:45:30.199 is very optimistic. This is our first election, and she's 2177 01:45:30.479 --> 01:45:33.479 she's an idealistic right now. She thinks this is gonna happen. 2178 01:45:33.760 --> 01:45:36.239 And I'm catching that kind of momentum and that kind 2179 01:45:36.279 --> 01:45:39.239 of attitude. Now, Bernie saying some stuff. He's saying the 2180 01:45:39.319 --> 01:45:42.239 right stuff at the rallies, you know. And and if 2181 01:45:42.359 --> 01:45:45.119 not okay. If it all is all bred and surfaces, 2182 01:45:45.159 --> 01:45:46.720 it's all a big act. It's all a big game. 2183 01:45:47.159 --> 01:45:49.760 We can at least organize those people that show up 2184 01:45:49.800 --> 01:45:52.560 to the rallies and hopefully in the future we can 2185 01:45:52.680 --> 01:45:55.479 come up with a or even local candidates. You know 2186 01:45:55.640 --> 01:45:59.760 that we can get some kind of a some kind 2187 01:45:59.800 --> 01:46:02.159 of peace and justice in our lives. You know, we 2188 01:46:02.279 --> 01:46:04.279 can't stop fighting in We got to keep resistant no 2189 01:46:04.319 --> 01:46:07.359 matter what we You know, every bone in my body 2190 01:46:07.399 --> 01:46:10.239 tells me that, otherwise I wouldn't be doing this right. 2191 01:46:10.479 --> 01:46:14.600 And uh again, guys, Operamanreport dot com, uh, you know, 2192 01:46:14.720 --> 01:46:17.479 and other places. I know you could catch some of 2193 01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:19.600 the podcasts on Spreaker. I was a guest on your 2194 01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:24.000 show recently. We talked about the jfk assassination. But believe me, 2195 01:46:24.239 --> 01:46:27.039 uh Ed covers all the types of subjects that we 2196 01:46:27.119 --> 01:46:29.399 talked about tonight, plus a whole lot of serious stuff 2197 01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:30.560 on his shows. 2198 01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:33.119 And uh, you know, tell people other places they can 2199 01:46:33.199 --> 01:46:37.760 find it. Oh, on Friday nights live it's on the 2200 01:46:37.800 --> 01:46:41.159 Awake Radio Network Awake Radio dot US, Awake Radio dot UK, 2201 01:46:41.960 --> 01:46:44.880 PSN Radio on Friday nights, then throughout the week as 2202 01:46:44.920 --> 01:46:47.079 we played every day on the late night in the 2203 01:46:47.119 --> 01:46:51.399 Midlands plays me on Tuesdays. Para X Radio plans on 2204 01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:54.680 Saturday night seven pm, so it's easy to find, you know. 2205 01:46:55.079 --> 01:46:58.199 I'm looking for a big station like AFR to bring 2206 01:46:58.279 --> 01:47:01.159 me on there, you know, not Friday night because I 2207 01:47:01.199 --> 01:47:02.720 know I got a great guy on there Friday night, 2208 01:47:02.800 --> 01:47:03.319 but maybe. 2209 01:47:05.119 --> 01:47:07.000 Yeah, at the same time slot I have. 2210 01:47:07.119 --> 01:47:11.439 But yeah, you know, I know what, I wouldn't care 2211 01:47:11.439 --> 01:47:13.800 how many listeners I lost you, man, because I think 2212 01:47:13.840 --> 01:47:16.279 that's you got a great show and you're doing great stuff. 2213 01:47:16.279 --> 01:47:19.640 And I love a guy that knows uh everything off 2214 01:47:19.680 --> 01:47:21.760 the top of his head, you know. And I was 2215 01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:23.800 growing you on JFK obscure stuff a lot of people 2216 01:47:23.880 --> 01:47:26.600 think would be obscure, uh, And I really enjoyed that 2217 01:47:26.640 --> 01:47:27.479 show burnt very much. 2218 01:47:27.520 --> 01:47:27.600 Man. 2219 01:47:27.640 --> 01:47:29.720 People should look for it on speak or YouTube. It's 2220 01:47:29.760 --> 01:47:32.279 up on YouTube, you know. Oh cool, I didn't know 2221 01:47:32.319 --> 01:47:34.920 what's up on YouTube. Well, you know, I appreciate it, man, 2222 01:47:34.960 --> 01:47:37.399 and any time you want me, I will definitely show up. 2223 01:47:37.640 --> 01:47:41.119 Ed Opperman was my guest tonight, guys, and I appreciate 2224 01:47:41.239 --> 01:47:42.359 all of you who tuned in. 2225 01:47:43.079 --> 01:47:43.520 Don't forget