Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on. But it's Ani mac here. You
know Animac that some people call me, uh anamac here
for anime ap from Anime app four to one Piece podcast.
I'm here with goes In and Briggs, my usual co host,
talking about the latest chapters in the manga one thirty
six to thirty nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we do the stuff with Poseidon, which is fresh stuff,
and this is the latest stuff. So if you're coming
from the Poseidon stuff and you want to be spoiled,
this is the latest things in the manga, so be careful. Yeah,
a ton of stuff is happening, man in l Bath,
Like we have so many reveals. The fact that Shanks
as a freaking evil twin brother is already old news, yeah,
which is kind.
Speaker 2: Of insane, funny thing to say.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like that would have been like, uh,
generational twist back in the day. But now we're getting
these like crazy reveals like one I've the others. So yeah,
I'm excited to talk about all of this.
Speaker 3: I think it's like in this in the sense that,
like everyone was predicting it for such a long time.
It's been teased a while, but we did find out
I guess in the manga, not in film red, that
they're the sons of Darland.
Speaker 2: I think it was implied that. I think they we
found out there were is a Figureland.
Speaker 3: Figureland, did we find out manga.
Speaker 2: But not that he's that he's the.
Speaker 3: Son, got it? I think I learned that from the
film read, but maybe that also happened in the manga.
Speaker 2: And I just don't remember, but that could be a jump,
Like you could be like, okay, so he looks like him,
especially when you see the manga flashbacks. He's a figure Land,
so it could be his son.
Speaker 1: Yeah, true, yeah, And I you know, we first learned
like obviously we saw the who we thought was Shanks
at talking to the elders, so we were like, okay,
Shanks clearly has an inn with the elders. That's kind
of weird because he's a Yanko. He's supposed to be
their enemy. Now we know that wasn't Shanks, But we
did learn from film read that Shanks was part of
the Figureland family, meaning a family of celestial dragons. And
there was also information I think in like an extra
cards or something that were given out at the theaters
in Japan that Shanks was found as a baby by
Roger on god Valley, So we had those two pieces
of information even before all this stuff in Elbath, but
it was clear like, yeah, you know, Shanks was a
celestial dragon part of the figure Out family, and he
was taken as a baby by Roger on god Valley,
where we know that a Garling was right, So we
kind of had bits and pieces here, but now it's
finally coming together and making sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do we know if there are other twin celestial dragons?
Like could it be like an ill omen or something?
So they purposely wanted to deal with the extra baby somehow.
Speaker 3: I feel like we don't know anything about that. That's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just asking that if you guys recall ever
seeing when celestial dragons because it might be part of
the their lord prophecies or something that you want to
avoid twins.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know. I don't know that is
a Japanese thing, like an old Japanese thing, because I
know in Demon Slayer there was like it was established
that Yoichi being a twin was a bad omen because
it's like you're not supposed to have two of the
same thing. And also it becomes an issue for like
who's gonna be the head of the.
Speaker 2: Family, and it could lead to wars and stuff.
Speaker 1: Who's going to be on air and stuff. So yeah,
there was like there could be a part of that
You're coming in from that job, Japanese history and kind
of Japanese folk believes.
Speaker 2: I think you're right, and and I do see a
lot of these manga borrowing from each other, and in
that way, Yurichi actually ended up being the biggest deal
and the number one hero of the series in a way.
So yeah, I think Shanks is definitely playing a similar role,
like not number one hero, but definitely a similar positive,
big role that Yodchi played in The Demon Slur.
Speaker 1: I still take Yoduichi over.
Speaker 2: I'm to say Yoduichi is who.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you don't know who Yo is. Come on,
and you gotta do some research. Bleach version coming soon. Anyway.
At the start of one thousand.
Speaker 1: Before I saw Yo in her lightning mode, he's.
Speaker 3: Been a change man ever since then.
Speaker 2: Is that the that the catwoman?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, she's nice.
Speaker 3: So at the start of one and thirty six, they're
just kind of still like part and Eden, they're talking
about Nika and like they can't really read the book,
and so they all have different interpretations. One of them
is like, he's the destroyer who lays waste to all.
He's the hero who appeared and saved the world from disaster.
He appears when the world is about to undergo a
great transformation, and he always shows up laughing. They know,
like the Buttom whatever, the drums of liberation, and they're
talking about this, but they don't really know what the
actual like lore is.
Speaker 1: I still want to know how that guy has that
sword in a set and it's just completely fine.
Speaker 3: He's chilling, dude, it's not moving.
Speaker 2: It's fine. Yeah, I don't have a one piece thing.
But it was funny for that one comedic gag where
it's like it's a good thing I have a helmet.
It's like it's going right through the helmet. Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So this is interesting thing, and it goes
from chapter one and thirty six into the next one
as well. But it's implied that Nika is something that's
happened multiple times before, right, that we've had multiple Nikas,
not just the one. You know, joy Boy in the
Void Century and then Loofy. Now it's been implied that
there's been multiple world ending events in the past, where
at least this is at least a third time right apparently,
which I thought was really interesting because we've always known
about the Void Century situation and current situation and that
joy Boy and Loofy had the same devil fruit. But
I find it intriguing that there's an earlier event too, potentially,
because we know that, for example, the Moon civilization predates
the Void Century by several centuries, so it kind of
goes potentially all the way back to the very beginning
of the timeline of.
Speaker 3: And then when we get the mural. When we get
the mural, and we'll get into that later, there's a
lot of talk about the Moon. So it does sound
like there's been a long, great history, the world has
been destroyed multiple times, and Nika is always there when
I undergo this transformation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like boy, I feel like joy
Boy was like not the first Nika. I feel like
that was like a separate being, and then like Loofy,
he just had the power.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So like you know, Nika, Joyboy, Loofy could be
three completely different people. Yeah, Yes, whereas Yeah, because people
kind of have assumed that, you know, the fruit is Nikas.
Maybe that's just a fruit, not a person. But then
the sun got idea of Nika or at least someone
who called himself Nica or something, you know before joy
Boy existing, I think is really interesting.
Speaker 2: And the zones have wills right like that.
Speaker 1: Again, it could be it could be the same devil
fruit in all three, but or there was someone before.
Speaker 2: Joy Boys, or the first one was turned into a
devil fruit. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It could be like the battle between gods and the
will was put into the devil fruit, and then every
time a similar like world ending event happened, someone has
that devil fruit and actually awakens it to become joint.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then I guess the fruit took the name
from the god whose power was sealed there or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly potential.
Speaker 1: It's all really interesting stuff.
Speaker 3: The book is called The Harley. I couldn't remember the
freaking name, so I just like opened it up. It's
called The.
Speaker 2: Harley, yeah, which seems not as epic as one would
think for the answer to all the universe.
Speaker 1: No, you think it's called the Record of Ragnarok or something.
Speaker 2: I thought it would be like forty two or something,
but it's all good.
Speaker 3: Warhammer forty k anyway, continued in one thousand and one
and thirty six, we see that the Holy Knights or
the God Knights. Dude, I'm so bad with with re memory.
Speaker 2: I don't think it bad. I think.
Speaker 1: You can use either.
Speaker 3: Pull up to ask Loki. Loki's all tied up to
join them. Any thoughts on that?
Speaker 2: Boys, when when he they asked them to join.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or just like yeah, that's that's where we're at, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much for me, that was again, I have
this whole theory that I've been talking about for a
long time now that Loki isn't the bad guy and
that his father could have been in cahoots with celestial dragons,
which is why Loki and him didn't like each other,
because you saw how he reacted to the celestial dragons, right,
he was like, even though he seems like a trickster
with Loofy, he doesn't even want to pretend that he's
going to become a celestial dragon. So there's clearly some
real hatred towards celestial dragons there that he won't even
like lie to escape. And yet there was that we're
gonna get to it. But there was that circle, summoning
circle inside the castle, which stayed there after the summoning,
which I think to mean that it was there before
the summoning, which is how they got there, and so
it could have been an establishment that King Harold had
with the celestial dragons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think agree with that. I agree with
Golzan that it seems to suggest the whole thing that
Loki is not as bad as he was made out
to be, because yeah, you know, you would think he's
so bad. He's like, they're offering him a way out
of his chains as long as he serves as celestial dragons.
And you know, if he was a bad guy, he
could have been like, yeah, fuck, why not.
Speaker 3: And if he's so strong, he's gotta lied, right. But surely,
clearly I didn't think about that, goes In. I didn't
think about like the animosity he might have towards lectial
dragons to stop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I write reviews, so I gotta think about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't think about that. I was more thinking along
the lines. It seems like Loki's backstory or what was revealed,
it was just him getting blamed for things he hadn't
even fucking done yet, based off like prophecies, so they
almost like, oh, he's gonna kill his dad, He's gonna
do all these bad things before he even did them.
And then it's like a self fulfilling prophecy where it's like, well,
if you're gonna treat me like shit and throw me
to the underworld, well then I'm gonna become the fucking
king of the underworld, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there was definitely parts of that, and there
there's so much confusion there, and I really want to know,
like his interactions with Shanks. I think that would shed
so much light on stuff, because he really seems to
be a guy of principles and a guy who's misunderstood.
So I'm wondering how Shanks didn't notice is Shank's and
cahoots somehow in a way where it would make sense.
I don't know. I really want to know how that happened,
how Shanks restrained him. Yeah.
Speaker 3: True, I'm gonna move on to the next chapter. Here,
we got to meet to the Holy Night Gunko, and
obviously we saw Shanks twin twin brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the least hype anyone's ever seen.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm just trying to like not skip anything.
Speaker 2: It's like we saw Shank's.
Speaker 1: What I thought was really interesting was how the girl what's.
Speaker 3: Her name Gunkok, Yeah, how her power was very reminiscent
of like those arrows from the scene with Emu where
Cobra was killed.
Speaker 1: Remember, definitely. So I thought that was really interesting, like
because presumably those arrows were Emu's power, and yet she
has that power or a similar power. So is that
telling us something or is it just like.
Speaker 2: Which maybe Yeah, I don't know. But one of my
also potential theories because you don't really commit any theory
one hundred percent, but was that people are getting kind
of powers from Emu as well. Was it confirmed that
this was its own devil fruit or or not? Did
we get the Gomu Gomu or not? Did we get
the devil fruit aspect to it? Because I know, we
get introduced to the power, but lately with the godosay
and stuff, we haven't been getting. This is the whatever
fruit we just get the.
Speaker 3: Power is I don't know if she's an arrow woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so errow woman doesn't necessarily say.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, he does. He does. It's okay
in her like in the box because it's Holy Knight,
Gunko arrow woman, arrow arrow fruit.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's fruit in that case, not from EMU. Yeah,
not from So that's that's an interesting aspect to it. Yeah.
I don't know if she would have been present. I
doubt it during that moment, but maybe it was.
Speaker 1: A It says that on the final page of one
thousand and thirty seven you see the reveal of Figureland
SHAMROCK's name son of Saint Garling and Holy Commander of
the Holy Knights and Gunko arrow errow woman, arrow arrow fruits.
So Figureland Shamrock being confirmed the son of Garling and
him being the evil twindled Chanks confirms the Chanks as
the son of Garling.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: True. Also cool to point out this guy Shamrock is
the Commander of the Holy Knights. But we know that
there are positions above this as well that we haven't
met yet.
Speaker 2: Right Commander. We know because that.
Speaker 3: Wasn't the hit like the Dad, like the Supreme Commander
before or something in the past.
Speaker 2: I think this is my understanding that this guy took
the Dad's position and the Dad became a god. Yeah
it depends on translation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be translations, but I just do feel
like if there was a supreme like these title bloxes
say commanders like the Gunk the commander, SHAMROCK's the commander.
Speaker 2: Really, Shamrock is anything special, He's just a normal.
Speaker 3: Commander, Commanders of the Holy Knights world Noble Shamrock and
then Gunk like it's I think it implies that they're
both commanders.
Speaker 1: And then well, commander is just says for Shanks at least.
Speaker 2: That's that's exactly what I.
Speaker 3: Was, Commander of the Holy Knights. Okay, yeah, maybe you're right,
but I just know that his brother, his dad in
the past, I believe was the supreme commander.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could his translation was for his dad.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, sure, we'd have to go back and check.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the vis one definitely says commander of the
Holy Nights Figureland and then holy Night.
Speaker 3: So gun Kus is a holy Night and then Figureland
is a commander.
Speaker 2: Got it exactly? Yeah. His clothing is so sick.
Speaker 3: Bro, Yeah with that braid and no, no, no, I
scar he he not like Shanks for real.
Speaker 2: I like you think he looks awesome it's just he's
definitely like aristocratic.
Speaker 1: And hair and I strive to have hair like that
as well.
Speaker 2: His clothing absolutely love aristocratic.
Speaker 3: He's a knight and he's what's it called connected with
Mary Joe, Like it makes sense for him to look
like this, and it does look cool for sure, but.
Speaker 2: You're right, like it is so uncanny seeing him without
the scar, so jarring.
Speaker 3: Man, we met the Chad of Chad's the absolute beauty,
not because he's the left man to Roger, not because
he was on the Pirate King's crew, but because we.
Speaker 2: Found that conquered Mount Ripley.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we found the man Mount Ripley because the.
Speaker 4: Mountain.
Speaker 2: No. Yeah, no, I definitely made those jokes in my review.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. You guys didn't used to be like this
before I came along.
Speaker 2: No, but this is the funny thing. Like, so some
people might think we focus too much on this stuff,
but Odi is focusing on this stuff right like hardcore
Wumpiece fans loved the the pervy jokes and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yep, it's true, you guys feel about mister.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love him. I think he's he's amazing. Like
they said, the Minister of Love like when he said that,
you know, it's just such a laugh out loud moment,
and and Loofy hit it right on the head when
he said, this is what Sondry's gonna talk like when
he's an old guy.
Speaker 3: So I guess like Rogers like Loofy and we'll talk
about like that a little bit. And then you got
ray leland Zoro and then you got mister Yah and Sanji,
and I like like the.
Speaker 2: The cool, laid back but still strong, not maybe as strong,
but still strong old guy. He pulls it off really well.
I like how supposedly he's gonna stop them from getting
the key, or I expect it's just a testing them,
not really stopping them. But it's funny how he's supposedly
gonna stop them, but first he shows them how to
get to the key. Yeah, and he's like, okay, now
I'm not gonna let you have it.
Speaker 3: I also just love the moment where it's like he's
telling them, like why you probably shouldn't release Loki, and
like Loofy just keeps on walking and kind of ignores
them a little bit exactly, and then you he sees
that like that little mirror image between like something similar
happening with him and Roger, and I love it.
Speaker 2: I love the parallelse It's that pirate king energy bro.
No matter how much these guys are elders, and in
Japan it's even stronger, that feeling like you have to
respect your elders and you know, give them that respect.
Lufy is just hard. Or if he doesn't care, he
doesn't care. It doesn't matter what your position is, what
what your age is, he just doesn't care.
Speaker 3: Yep, he's free man. So we do move on to
one thousand and one and thirty eight, and obviously these
guys are like they're kicking Loki's ass. He's look, he's
all chained up and they're beating him up, trying to
kill him, or they're trying to make him join them.
But once he refuses and refuses, we get to.
Speaker 1: See if they need something from him, which is interesting.
Speaker 3: M but we get to see Shanks's brother, SHAMROCK's power.
Any thoughts on that, boys, Yeah, I thought it was cool.
Speaker 2: So it was Cerberus right in his sword. Yeah, and
ODIs said before if he would give Zorro a devil fruit,
it would be his sword because he was kind of
giving devil fruits to all of the all of the
straw hats in this question corner. And so yeah, I
definitely wasn't surprised to see that, but I like how
it's making weapon fruits or weapon powers cool now, yeah,
because before it wasn't right yea, like what the elephant's
sword or something.
Speaker 3: Like elephants sword and like the gun dog or dog gun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's officially cool. And now if Zoro has it,
like I did theories about before, potentially not only can
swim and stuff, but now it's not necessarily looked at
it as uncool like it might have been.
Speaker 3: So what type of fruit would you want Zora to
have in his sword?
Speaker 2: God of the Underworld was my my prediction.
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: God of the underworld? So it could be like it
depends on what myth they want to take, but he's
always associated with with underworld, like like and Emma. Even
the name Enma is associated with the underworld. So it
would be some kind of ruler of the underworld, like
you know how Dark Knight rarely like he'd literally be
like under world King Zoro or something like that.
Speaker 1: True, Yeah, what he has done move that's kind of
like demonic right.
Speaker 2: A lot. He's always he's always associated with demonic and
underworld stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some type of like maybe like cursed Devil fruit,
some type of something like that would be cool.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, yeah, demonic, I don't even know
what that. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like it
does seem to be something in that vein, but then
he's taking that potentially away from actual bad guys so
that I don't know how they're gonna do it, but.
Speaker 3: The curse curse know me, but put into a sword.
I don't know anyway, so they Sorry, I'm just trying.
I'm trying to move it, move along and go through everything. Obviously, Look,
he's not dead. They ended it with like him getting
like triple Piercer while being in like Sea prism Stone
and whatever. It looks like he's getting killed, but let's
be real.
Speaker 2: Look, he's not dead this whole time, man, I'm like again,
I really like revenge stories m hm, And this whole time,
this dude just tied up, doesn't have a chance to
defend himself. He's been through so much already, we know that,
and they're just hitting him, hitting him, hitting him, hitting him,
like hurting him, and this whole time, I'm just thinking, Yo,
when he gets his just desserts, it's gonna be so satisfying.
Oda is setting this up. It's gonna be so satisfying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be good. I can't wait. In this chapter,
we finally Robin goes and reads the Harley. We get
the reveal of the first world, the second world, in
the third world. We get the mural that the entire
community went crazy for. Funny enough, Frankie's standing in the middle.
I don't know why it wasn't Robin, but any thoughts
on this mural, boys, I'd like to.
Speaker 2: Hear Animax opinions because he usually goes way more into
depth with like this kind of lower building stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the crazy thing that there's so much that
can be taken from this right. It's like it's specific
enough to see certain things, but very vague at the
same time. So you see like you see like different races,
including Nika, and then like the robot.
Speaker 2: And fishmen and even a mermaid princess.
Speaker 1: Princess and ships and stuff attacking like this giant demon
who's holding a sun, which is like, what the fuck
is a Nika? The Sun like, you know, like it's
it's vague enough to to confuse you. But then you
also clearly see the Moon is there. You see devices
that look like the drawings on the Moon, civilization, you
see the Noah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of little things. But I don't know,
I just don't know what this is trying to depict. Well,
it's the battle, obviously.
Speaker 1: But I think it's definitely confirming that the various races
we're working together, the Minx, the the sea fishmen, the
lunarians and and stuff, they were all working together against
the evil guys, right, which is something we've been speculating
that Joy Boy united the races.
Speaker 2: In the war against Em right Em and the celestial
dragons as soon.
Speaker 3: What if the name of the three, the three or
the ancient weapons again we got Pluton.
Speaker 1: Side and then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like the whole laser going down and
destroying an entire island could be a so with like
a sunlike power, but it also could be a metaphor
like just flying too close to the sun, right, trying
to become a god as a human.
Speaker 3: M Yeah, I think at the sans like we have
these these gods or these these beasts, demons, monsters, whatever
they are, and everyone's uniting with Nika to take them on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or at least the people that were like subjugated
for so long. Yes, obviously celestial dragons aren't part of
that group, but there probably will be some like shrinks. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Interesting, what do we think there was this whole.
Speaker 2: Metal of it. Yeah, that could end up being significant.
We'll see. Like he is right where the the Adam
Tree is and he is obviously associated with the Adam
Tree because he's the carpenter. But I don't know, i'd
too much important. I would be shocked if he's not
now that you mention it.
Speaker 3: Because like if you put Robin maybe if he's not
big enough to cover something. So Frankie was there, he's
in front of the at I like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that. But what do you think
about the stuff that's like they will not meet, they
will not meet. They will surely meet in the third world?
Like what do you guys think about that switch and
and what's meeting? Maybe we can leave it, like if
we don't know, we don't know. I'm just wondering if
you guys have any theories.
Speaker 3: Where are you seeing the oh? In the first world
and they will never meet.
Speaker 2: Every last line, and they will never meet, and they
will never meet, and they will surely meet.
Speaker 3: Hmmm, and I'm any thoughts on that.
Speaker 2: Ah, it's okay. Yeah, we don't need to if we
don't need to force it, if we don't know. Just
interesting switch.
Speaker 3: Within the Earth there was you think I's going to
read this again as well, but we'll maybe we'll do
that after or try to read it out aloud for everybody.
Speaker 2: Read it out aloud for everybody.
Speaker 3: Why not the first world? Within the Earth, there was
fire mankind succumb to greed and touch the forbidden Sun.
The enslaved, prayed, and the sun, the sun God appeared
the Earth God raged and with its serpent of health,
fire shrouded the world in death and darkness, and they
will never meet. There, God raged and with its serpent
of health, fire shrouded the world and death and darkness,
and they will never meet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Earth got to be sounds like potentially celestial dragons.
They're trying to present themselves as gods. And then serpent
of hell fire could be Emu whatever it is represented
by that evil power there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's so like it's so interesting, it's
so vague.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's like, so the first world here
mankind did something greedy and touched the forbidden sun, and
then the people that are being enslaved and like maybe
the like fishmen and certain these these races prayed, and
then Nika appears to help save the day.
Speaker 1: Right, But then I'm guessing that that is referring to
the artificial son mm hmm, which was created as like
a modern technology that allows so much but can obviously
be abused.
Speaker 3: I think so. I think so it's like they cap
they harnessed the sun and they're using it for these
weapons and.
Speaker 2: These eras, Like that's the eternal flame, right, yes.
Speaker 3: And look at one of these gods. One of the
gods is holding like a sun. So it's not like
the actual son god. He's getting the eternal flame and
using it for something negative.
Speaker 2: Right, There's a birth god, there's a sun god, and
there's a forest god in the next part as well,
the sea god.
Speaker 3: All right, let me read the second world. The second
world within the void, there was breath, the forest god
tame demons, and the sun spread the fires of war.
Speaker 1: Those of the does within the void. There was breath
in the void.
Speaker 2: There was there was breathing, there was life, what breath?
You know what breath vo? I don't know, man.
Speaker 3: What I what I found really cool was after that
it says the those of the half moon dreamed the
will of d Maybe those those of the moon dreamed.
Those are the moon dreamed people on There was people
on the Moon at this time, I guess prior to
the Void's entry. Man killed the Sun and became God
and the Sea God stormed and they will never meet.
So I we know that Nika didn't win last time, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So that sounds like the Sun God was
defeated and the celestial dragons became God.
Speaker 2: That's what they explained.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Emo Sama, this monster potentially became God.
Speaker 2: And the sea God's storm. So there has been like
I think even maybe you did a theory of it
about a two animac about potentially Emu having a sea
devil fruit or something like that, and it would be insane.
Speaker 3: Man killed the Sun and became God and the sea
God stormed. Maybe this is why devil fruits. Maybe they
like the devil. That's why devil fruits hate started to
hate man. After like what happened and that's why they
can't swim. I don't know, that's just out of nowhere anyway,
the third world, within the chaos, there was emptiness great
within the chaos, but there was emptiness. The inconvenient remnants.
Recall the promised day and hear the voice of the
half moon, the voice of d right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the inconvenient remnants would be the remnants of the
races that weren't wiped out even though they tried to
wipe them out. It's yeahs and fishermen and what's it
called the.
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah? So you know King is going to be
there for the final fight for sure.
Speaker 3: The sun God dances and laughs, guiding the world to
its end. The sun returns and brings a new morning,
and they will surely meet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that is that will be like the ending
of one piece there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole thing is based on Dawn.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: The beginning is called Romance don the first chapter, So
it's always it's always been about that morning, that symbolic mourning.
But who will surely meet? Bro? Who I don't know.
Speaker 1: It could be Loofy and like uh emu or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Fucking Dumbledore.
Speaker 2: I don't know, yes, probably not supposed, but like this,
they will meet with a like this seems to be
when the fighting is over right, the sun returns and
brings a new morning, and they will shim me. That
almost seems to be like an after epilogue kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it might that might be a hint to
what the one piece is. The pieces will meet. The
season will.
Speaker 3: Interesting interesting boys? Yeah, do we think and Nell is
gonna come down from the moon?
Speaker 1: They will surely meet, should do something.
Speaker 2: Purely based on like how much the community in general
always talks about him coming back. I would be shocked
with I think it's just headcanon nowadays. Definitely coming back.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it'd be funny if the final battle
like is like raging and souls there just like in
the background somewhere you see NL like smashing like a villain,
just like with a with a lightning bolt out of nowhere,
and it's never mentioned again.
Speaker 2: Will they play you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yo?
Speaker 3: So we see the Noah above the Noah, we.
Speaker 4: See Annell's arc shooting a lightning bolt. Oh, Oh my goodness, gracious,
it's in. It happened in the past. It will happen again.
Speaker 1: It does look like a flying ship, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, it looks just like the Noah. Not the Noah.
It looks just like the Arc Maxim. That's why I
remember it's called the Arc Magazimum. I don't remember anything else.
Speaker 1: In this series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is gonna be so interesting once the show
is over. It's gonna be so interesting to go back
to this.
Speaker 1: And like, I assume it's not actually the Maxim. Rather,
it's it's a flying device used by the Moon civilization
that mL that rediscovered because he's a descendant of those people, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, something like that. Also, like, it's not like he
just he engineered this and designed himself. I'm sure he
based it off of something, and probably off of this,
which was.
Speaker 2: What nik U. There is a giant with horns, which
to me is low key. I believe that's going to
be low.
Speaker 1: Key, definitely equivalent. You know, we have that robot from Egghead.
We have Samurai looking guys so people from Janoh. We
have fishmen, we have Poseidon minks, we have another another
Albaf looking guy, a bunch of ships of regular looking ships,
regular looking people, so kind of the fleet riding people
riding Neptunians. We have a guy with with wings, uh lunarian. Yeah,
large wings.
Speaker 3: Apparently there's a ship that has an Alabasta has Alabasa's
flag on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah I heard that.
Speaker 1: Too, but yeah it does what their thing looks like. Yeah,
so that to me shows like kind of the alliance
of all our guys right now fighting against EMU like that.
Speaker 2: That has to be that. Yeah, and including I've heard
before that like Kaido and stuff, Will.
Speaker 1: And plus the other guys on that other boat that
seems to be facing against Uh, our guys look like
they're wearing like spacesuits.
Speaker 3: See, oh my god, that's true. Yeah, so those are
on the side of the monsters or the gods whatever
they think they are.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, you're right there. The sun being held
up there could be referring to the weapon that destroys islands.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this eternal flame as well.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Anyway, the next chapter is on the Mountain Eater, but
I think we already kind of covered it. I just
want to make sure that.
Speaker 1: We Yeah, we we did mostly.
Speaker 2: I think people were saying in the comments of the
review last time that oh, do you think, like you know,
it's actually gonna be an interesting fight or anything. And
I think Goda will probably make it fun. But obviously,
I don't think anyone thinks that Scopra can take on
Loofye five.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he has tricks up his sleeve. Yeah. Yeah,
And it's gonna be like a sort of like proving
themselves to each other, kind of like like I'm a
worthy opponent to you and shit like that. But like,
like like Lufy and Shanks, like I don't think they're
gonna go into a battle to the death, like they're
gonna be on the same side. It's obvious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is testing them. He showed him where it is.
He wants to test him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly cause he he doesn't know Lufy, so he
wants to be like, I heard about you, but let's
see what you can do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think he's having some fun. But also like
he knows that Shanks. We're told that Shanks was the
only one that could stop low Key, So I assume
Scopper wants to feel out that Lufy is at least
stronger than him as well potentially, But yeah, sure, don't
think there's any animosity between these guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that, and like yeah, at the
end of the chapter, it just ends with like them saying,
he's the left arm of the king and take it
from me if you can. And his name is Scopper Gabbin.
Speaker 2: Dude, we didn't mention something. So he has a scar
shaped like a flame if you notice over his left no,
his right eyebrow. Another Harry Potter, now another man marked
by Flames candidate, just putting that out there as well.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, a lot of people are just assuming now
that he is the man marked by flames.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is the latest and it would
make sense. You should know a lot considering like he
said himself, I'm an explorer.
Speaker 1: It's what I do.
Speaker 2: I explore things, so he should. Yeah, he secret chambers,
He's explored.
Speaker 1: Bro the Giant Slayer baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is the second Harry Potter called Paper of Secrets?
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually based on his life.
Speaker 5: Story, Like I want to see just like bow down
to this man and be like, yeah, that interaction will
honestly be awesome.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure you guys have noticed like gold Roger gold, silver,
Raley silver, scopper, Gavin copper, which is like made with
bronze or used in bronze.
Speaker 2: And another thing that's like there's no way he's a
threat at all is the fact that, like Raley even
admitted he couldn't take on black Beard at this point
a yanko, Right, so Scopper who's supposedly even weaker than Raley, Right,
there's no chance of Loofy going all out and actually
not being able to beat him. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I also just think like like at the end of
the day, like these guys get stronger and our super
our beasts, but the age does make a difference.
Speaker 2: Is the reason why people One Pieces made that clear. Yeah,
with white Beard and everything. One Pieces made that clear. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the man, I really it's exciting to be in
this like final saga where you're getting all these reveals,
but it's still it's not happening all at once. It's
still happening step by step, so you're kind of getting
accustomed to it. But at the same time, like if
you look back to some of the arcs in the past,
like getting this many reveals about the world weekly would
have been like insanity, Like you know when you're just
like in Alabasta or something, or in Dress Rosa, do
you know, focusing on that arc, like you're not getting
many reveals about the past and the world and stuff
like that. Yeah, now it's just literally ramping up.
Speaker 2: Oda is in wrapping up mode for sure.
Speaker 3: Boys, quick thing, do we have any plant, like any
predictions for the future, Like what do we think is
gonna happen in this arc? In the coming arcs?
Speaker 1: I think, guys, but on his own terms, and uh,
there's definitely gonna be a showdown with the Gods nights,
and I hope that we're gonna see a showdown between
Shanks and his brother and Lufy's encounter, you know, reunion
with Shanks during that time or around that time, because
I think it's it's you know, about time that Shanks
and Lufy reunite now that Lufy's a Janco and now
that you know Shanks was like, let's go find the
one piece, and they're finding the one piece and Banks
is very clearly tied to Elbaf and now we're learning
about his history and his twin brothers, so.
Speaker 2: Like we have to.
Speaker 1: We have to have the reunions.
Speaker 3: Who It's interesting because I'm on the same page. I
think Lufy is going to release Loki. Maybe they have
like a little fight on whatever. But I do think
Loki's gonna come to their side, not gonna like become
a straw happy. We're like Loki for straw, Loki for straw.
Speaker 2: I think it can happen.
Speaker 3: I mean it's possible.
Speaker 2: It's possible. He doesn't need to to join them.
Speaker 1: P sure like I've become a strawhead or anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's possible. I don't know if it's
gonna happen, but I do think he comes to their side.
But then we have like Loofy and this guy. We
don't have enough. It's not like there's like two Holy
Knights on the island, right. We need more enemies to
show up to this island.
Speaker 2: The only thing we do gotta address is if Loki
joins forces with them, Like could he ever be on
their ship because of his giant size? That's the that's
the only thing true.
Speaker 1: And and I mean, you know black Beard is still
there somewhere as a potential opponent, right, Yeah, so we
gotta we gotta.
Speaker 2: Consider him crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just the buddy Emu and the celestial dragons and
the gods knights, you still got black Beard out there
making moves.
Speaker 2: That's true. You got black Beard, you got and and
now obviously you got Buggy. He's gonna do something. I'm
not saying he's gonna be like the main bad guy
at the end, but he's gonna do some stuff.
Speaker 1: At the end, Like final Battle, Loofy and and Eve
both like nearly kill each other and Buggy just comes
and cuts off their heads and he's like, I'm the.
Speaker 2: Dude, He's not gonna cut off their heads. But I
would not be surprised if Buggy somehow ends up taking credit,
like in the public's eye.
Speaker 1: He becomes the Pirate King instead of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I could see like something happening where just
like obviously Buggy's not gonna actually do it, but he
takes credit for like what happens in the ending.
Speaker 1: That'd be hilarious.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, he just stumbles into exactly no one.
He's not famous or anything, like if he wants to
be the pirate King for now, so he does, and
he will be in spirit.
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering that would be funny, Like he finds
the one piece, he becomes the pirate King, he achieves
his dreams, and then he's just like, yeah, but I
don't want people to know who cares like that. Buggy
be it let's buggles. If people leave me alone, I'm
gonna go on another adventure.
Speaker 2: Exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And then when he comes back from the adventure, Buggies
like I'm the divine Emperor of mankind. I've ruled with
an iron fist from Marie.
Speaker 2: Buggy is like up on steroids. Bro I didn't think
about it, but but if Scopper is Sanji in the future,
then Buggy is is USA.
Speaker 3: Hmmm. I feel like Shank's versus his brother could happen
in this arc. I don't think. Do you think we're
gonna get like Shank's versus Blackbeard?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I I honestly don't think we're gonna see Shanks versus brother. Personally.
I think that would be too too like it would
have happened by now. I don't I don't see that
happening personally. I do think Blackbeard and Shanks will fight
one hundred percent if you ask me yes, because that
scar on his face, the constant conversations that have been
leading up to each other, I can't see that not
getting some kind of climax. Blackbeard even said to Shank
straight up, it's not yet the time for me to
fight you. Like that time will come. There's no doubt
in my mind.
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess, I guess I'm on the same page, Guys.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just picture Loofy defeating Blackbeard at some point. But
I guess it could be Shanks or Shanks could lose.
Speaker 2: Shanks could lose bro I don't think Shanks will defeat Blackbeard.
I think Shanks will lose. Now, you guys can talk
about the specifics if you want to say, like Blackbeard
kills him luf he wants revenge, or black Beard beats him,
but he's not like build like. I don't know, but
I do think that for him to be a really
good opponent, black Beard beating Shanks, although we love Shanks,
would kind of have to happen to really establish that strongly,
that reasoning motive.
Speaker 3: I feel like someone else needs to come to this island.
So do we think it's going to be like the Gorose?
Do we think it's going to be black bearded or
more Holy Knights? A bunch of Holy Knights admirals, Like
I think we need something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it's interesting that the Holy Knights
seem to be recruiting, So what if they try to
recruit Blackbeard, Like, I don't think Blackbeard would be really
loyal to them, but he could be like, well, sure, sure,
and then like betray him at the right moment when
it suits him.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wonder why how they make their decisions. I
think Loki. I think they liked his position as a
potential giant, and maybe they could use that connection the
crown him the new king or something if you want
to work with them, and they could control the giants.
I thought maybe that could be one of the reasons why,
specifically Loki. I don't know if they're just in general
looking for strong people, yeah.
Speaker 1: But they're definitely recruiting, which could play into things.
Speaker 2: The other thing is black Beard was already like we
know how him joining the what was that program? The
Warlords of the c program like did not go well
at all. So I would be like that two point.
Speaker 1: Zero yeah exactly. I think he would like only join
while it suits him and then immediately have no qualms
about turning his back. And that's that is kind of
where we're heading. I think. I think that Blackbeard also
wants to take down the world government in a way,
but for his own ends to take over.
Speaker 2: I think I think the finish product would look different
for Lufian black Beard obviously, but they both want to
be the strongest and overtake the powers that be. I
do think there are parallels there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they've been parallels since the very beginning.
The first scene you meet Blackbeard. It's like they're they're
both over the top characters. One loves the pie, one
hates the pie, one loves the drink, one hates the drink.
They're like they're so similar and so different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. That's why I also like wonder what kind
of what kind of crazy stuff? And black Beard reveals
we're gonna get down the line and with the whole
the three headedness, But that's the topic of a different
video for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm miss like, I guess I don't see what's
where this arc is going, like like Enemy Wise, where it's.
Speaker 2: I agree that that there's probably going to be like
left field stuff coming for sure, because I mean, if
you even look at the last arc, like we just
suddenly had all five go to show up that I
was crazy. So I do think we're gonna get something
like that, like something wrench thrown into it.
Speaker 3: There has to be there has to be some wrenches thrown.
Any other final thoughts, boys.
Speaker 2: Love in one Piece, Love in One Piece. I think
it's clear that Oda is tying up loose ends now,
like he's begun the process. I don't think we're we're
close to the last chapter, but I think Oda is
definitely in wrapping up mode versus just expanding the story
like he was in the beginning. So yeah, it's exciting.
And like Animac said, every week seems to be like
huge reveals compared to what we were getting way back when.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, you know, we used to mean Briggs,
you remember about like, oh, when are we gonna get
the answers to this? We're not getting any answers. We're
just getting more questions, you know. I feel like now
we're finally getting answers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2: I mean we even got the Ripley husband reveal, bro, Like,
how long would that have taken back in the day,
never be revealed?
Speaker 3: We'd still bed. I just want fucking Shanks and Loofy
to reunite before anything like crazy happens to either.
Speaker 1: Of them like that, know, they could have been dragged out.
I think it should have happened in Wano like after all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I feel like that's such a weird move
at that point when he is unindisputably a great pirate
he just beat Kido. That was such a strange move
to not to have them that close and not meet
to the point where it's like, when would they meet
if they didn't meet at that point, like any.
Speaker 3: Pirate king, we situate that long. But what if he
dies in black Beard?
Speaker 2: Like just such a weird move. Yeah, it's such a weird.
Speaker 1: Like he comes there in long distance hockey telekinetically attacks
green Bull, but it doesn't like go and stalk Loofy.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, I get it in the sense of
just like it does kind of rob us or it
gives us a payoff, a very big payoff, likey be
sooner than Alta wants. But why have banks there?
Speaker 1: You know, that's even And he even had him say
let's go and get find the one piece. He could
have just said that to Loofy. Yeah right, he kind
of says that, you know, to us the readers, But
he could have literally had the reunion with Loofy said
let's go get the office, and then if Ada wants
to keep him separate, they could have gone with their
separate ways while looking for the one piece, like I'll
go this way to find this, you go this way
find that. But yeah, that did feel to me like
blue balling for no reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do agree, raffin Chat says, that's why this
arc feels more like a zo I don't know if
it has to be a big conflict, but it makes
sense for Albaf the warland. Yeah, I feel like that's
why we always were saying in the past, like we
think there's gonna be a big final war or some
type of big war on al Bath. Meanwhile, it kind
of happened on like Hjuano and Egghead, and its feeling
it like it's potentially not gonna happen on Albath.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Albaf could be like a discovery arc
where you've got a lot of answers and and uh reveals,
but there has to still be something like let's say
there's not a big battle for l Bath, then they
would have to transition pretty quickly into another arc that's
like a massive war arc because it just feels right,
you know, a big battle, time to.
Speaker 3: Go to marry Joe right after this, oh bro like
climb the Red Line.
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, I guess well.
Speaker 3: I imagine like the Holy Knights and the Gorris, they
retreat and then Lufy decides to bring it to them.
I don't, I don't know exactly. Maybe something.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's true, Like we always talk about which
island they're going to next, but they could literally just
go to the Red Line and who knows all the
stuff they could discover there and all the arcs that
could be had there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, man. I think eventually they're gonna get there.
I don't think em Usama is gonna be like meet
them on l bath Ring that and like with dude
Dragon at the Revolution, Harry Arvey, what is back and
something gonna happen with that?
Speaker 1: I forgot they exist?
Speaker 3: They exist, dude, Dude. Dragon was introduced in fucking well,
I can't even remember the town, Logtown, Logtown, Yeah, nineteen
billion years ago. He's done nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah him for some special home.
Speaker 1: Right now, they are actually blockading Marigeois and launching rebellions,
so they are active. It's just that we don't we're
not really focusing on it. But they've had they've turned
a bunch of kingdoms into rebels against the world government,
and they are blockading shipments up to Marijoa from the
rest of the world. And we've seen the uh Celestial
Dragons complaining about shortages. They're like, we can't get our
dist and we're done, and you know, like crying about
it because they're so spoiled. But that is like a
interesting strategy because it takes a lot to bring something
up to the Red Line. So if you can block that,
you could eventually potentially starve them out, unless you know,
we don't know what's you know, the Red Line might
have a lot of resources, but they are they're not
really they don't know.
Speaker 3: They're disconnected from the world. Wow. Nine hundred chapters later,
actually one thousand chapters later, and we get a blockade. Guys,
but he's been looking twenty looking east for twenty five years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Dragon has not had the conventional hype moment
that we expect that as shown it. But look at
my hero academia bro.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, I guess it's better than than
Deck who's.
Speaker 2: Dad definitely better than decks that already. But I don't
think Oda will well not let him do something epic.
Speaker 3: Maybe he's been looking east for this entire series, not
for like, oh I'm thinking of my son in nostalgia
towards the village whatever. Maybe he's waiting for the drums
of liberation to come and do his job for him,
do the revolution for him.
Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing I'll say to that is
there will be overlap between what they want, for sure.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 2: For sure, Loofy's symbol is pretty much the symbol of freedom,
and and that's exactly what Dragon wants. So yeah, it'll
be cool to have them team up.
Speaker 3: So that's the reason Dragon smashed and Loofy was born.
Speaker 2: Yeah he really, he really smashed. Well yeah, for a
for a son.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just all for long enough, Loofy will get
things done.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's the same. What that's what it feels like
for sure? Oh my god.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I do think eventually they gotta go to
the Mary Joa like the revolutionaries, but also Loofy and
the boys. I don't think I think that they's the
reason why, like they need to defeat the Gorse or
any of the gorse really on on a Egghead. I
think it's all building up for something there. I just
don't know what's gonna happen on ELBEV.
Speaker 2: I just can't see the go to say again, being
like big, big opponents, I feel like maybe smaller crew
members would like fight some but obviously figure lands a
different story. But yeah, that would just be too much recycling.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, that's true. But if the Holy Nights
are here, then I don't know. I don't know. Well,
we'll find out, bro find out next time on Dragon Ball.
One Piece. Yeah, I'm gonna wrap it up here animeccause
I am. I'm excited for more one Piece boys.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, same here, Stay tuned, guys to one Piece of
your podcast. We got the Posidon from starting from the
beginning stuff. We got the latest chapter stuff. Usually when
we get about a three or four, we'll break it
down for you, and uh, yeah, I'm excited for what
comes next. Things are accelerating in an exciting way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Until next time, Yace coboys, Bang