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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 2>Many say it's the best.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the best, so many many say it's the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Many people say, yes, I like a spin Doctor's pull.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of fun. Like nineteen ninety three up in here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when did they ever come out with a second album.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's look that up?

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<v Speaker 2>Did they?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's look that up. I'm sure everybody wants to know that.

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<v Speaker 1>The history of the spin Doctors albums. Oh, they had

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<v Speaker 1>several albums. Yeah, but I mean ones that you knew about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all I knew was Two Princes and Little Biss can't

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<v Speaker 1>be wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Those were that. That was my spin doctor bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, from Pocket full of Kryptonite.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what year was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety one nineties when the album came out, But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was ninety two ninety three when everything really.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure started popping, as the kids say.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, they weren't even nominated for the American Music

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<v Speaker 2>Award for Favorite Album until ninety four, even though that

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<v Speaker 2>album came out in ninety one.

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<v Speaker 1>In January of twenty twenty two, the band fired longtime

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<v Speaker 1>bassist Mark White after thirty three years. Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>think they fired him in twenty twenty two?

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<v Speaker 4>He for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>He refused to get the COVID vaccine. Really in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, well I don't think it was about the milk. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>those guys are getting up at age, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>became sort of a high risk group at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>are they. Chris Barron is the lead vocal guy. He's

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<v Speaker 2>fifty six years old.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not up in age. It's basically your age. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to you and you're youthful, thank you. What else

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<v Speaker 1>is going up?

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<v Speaker 4>Time for?

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<v Speaker 2>See what you're doing? What's happening. The headlines that came

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<v Speaker 2>out of the airline world is flying into Haiti is dangerous?

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<v Speaker 2>And now Spirit Airlines and Jet Blue say they believe

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<v Speaker 2>that two of their airplanes were struck by gunfire as

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<v Speaker 2>they were landing in Port Prince. Spirit Airlines flight from

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<v Speaker 2>Fort Lauderdale to Porta prints diverted after it was struck by

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<v Speaker 2>gunfire four times while attempting to land that Toussaint lu

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<v Speaker 2>Vertrie Airport in the capital city of Porta pols So.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the FAA has banned flights US flights to Haiti

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty days.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow the Monday, there was a Jet Blue flight from

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<v Speaker 2>Haiti to New York City also hit by a bullet,

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<v Speaker 2>but they didn't find it until later after it landed

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<v Speaker 2>at JFK. A postflight inspection identified that the exterior of

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<v Speaker 2>the craft had been struck by a bullet. And you'd

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<v Speaker 2>think to yourself, well, that seems weird. Aren't those pressurized?

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<v Speaker 2>And wouldn't a hole cause a problem? I have heard

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<v Speaker 2>from many a source.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of holes in planes.

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<v Speaker 2>There are lots of holes. Yes, this is it's the

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<v Speaker 2>big ones. You gotta worry about the little ones. They're fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of a big hole. What wakes up you in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of the night, Come out right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like you to rephrase the question, please, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we would all like the question.

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<v Speaker 4>Less.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let me just ask you this. Forget the part

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<v Speaker 3>about the hole.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>What wakes you up in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>Was human people that would get.

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<v Speaker 1>To the chase here carke me up. A car has

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<v Speaker 1>crashed onto the roof of a home in Chino while

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was sleeping early this morning. The car careened off

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<v Speaker 1>a street behind the house flew over a canal and

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<v Speaker 1>landed on the back side of the roof. The impact

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<v Speaker 1>was so powerful it knocked down a second story wall

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<v Speaker 1>left a gaping hole.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh nobody was injured. The woman in the house said

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<v Speaker 2>four people walking. She saw four people getting out of

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<v Speaker 2>the car, described them as younger, young kids, possibly in

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<v Speaker 2>their twenties. She said the car was doing donuts on

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<v Speaker 2>the street behind the home before the crash. Four people

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<v Speaker 2>in the car all survived, of course, details of their

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<v Speaker 2>injuries not available.

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<v Speaker 1>George Whitesides has one first time candidate. He will represent

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<v Speaker 1>northern La County, LA County and Congress next year. Defeated

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<v Speaker 1>Representative Mike Garcia. I was surprised by this well in

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<v Speaker 1>that area.

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<v Speaker 2>This was weird because the last three times Garcia has

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<v Speaker 2>run for that seat, he was behind in the early

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<v Speaker 2>polling and was able to make it up in the

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<v Speaker 2>late polling. This went exactly the opposite direction. Is still

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<v Speaker 2>a very very very close race. Garcia in his statements,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll always seek to serve this wonderful nation and

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<v Speaker 2>any capacity remain at her disposal for the maintenance of

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<v Speaker 2>her splendor, the security of her people, in the protect

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<v Speaker 2>of her future so I.

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<v Speaker 1>Heard this story this morning, and I thought, this man

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<v Speaker 1>is my people.

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<v Speaker 3>You hear about the guy on wheel of fortune?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I just saw that as a matter of fact

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>And most of the letters were filled in, and the

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<v Speaker 1>answer was give yourself a round of applause. And this

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<v Speaker 1>guy guessed that the answer was give yourself a round

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<v Speaker 1>of sausage, to which I said, yes, I would rather

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<v Speaker 1>have a round of sausage than a round of applause.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, who us I like to solve the problem? Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's hear it. Treat yourself a round of sausage.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, that's not it.

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<v Speaker 2>Over to Katina, I like to solve Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Give yourself a round of applause.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's it, but a round of sausage. Yes, and yes.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're Ryan Seacrest, how do you not slap your

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<v Speaker 2>forehead and say.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he's not Pat Sajak, I told you this was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a disaster.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to have levity.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have to I mean, how do you not

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<v Speaker 1>capitalize on a man saying treat yourself to a round

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<v Speaker 1>of sausage.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, you say something like this, will you didn't solve

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<v Speaker 2>that puzzle. But Vanna, what do we have for him?

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<v Speaker 3>And then she brings out Vina sausage.

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<v Speaker 2>Barro was sausage.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you start asking him what kind of sausage

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<v Speaker 1>you want your brought worst?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they do a nice round of sausage over there.

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<v Speaker 2>At the When did you you just all of a

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<v Speaker 2>sudden became a mid upper Midwesterner.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where my people.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice sausage, That's where my people are from.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember when we found out that and it all made sense?

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<v Speaker 2>But I didn't. You've never had an accent before?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh did I have an accent?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You said over there there, Yeah, right over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, at the German Deli Sausage. It's in Seal Beach.

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<v Speaker 1>They do a nice round of sausages. They do a

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<v Speaker 1>nice platter there. You can sample for four or five

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<v Speaker 1>different types of sausages. One of my German friends, Ulrich,

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<v Speaker 1>just went over there to pick up some pretzels and

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<v Speaker 1>sausages over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Those Germans know their meats, oh and their pretzels. Sad news.

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<v Speaker 2>You may have seen it last night if you're watching football,

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<v Speaker 2>that John Robinson has died, a longtime USC coach and

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<v Speaker 2>of course coach the Rams as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone says that if they played for John Robinson that

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<v Speaker 1>he was their favorite head coach ever entire careers.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard that about him. Yeah, Ronnie Lott played for

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<v Speaker 2>him for Robinson seventy eight to eighty at uy Eric Dickerson,

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<v Speaker 2>he was the greatest. Eric Dickerson, so very cool and

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<v Speaker 2>a sad loss at the age of eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Now all I can think about, I know what sausage?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, too easy, That's what would wake you up in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of then a round of sausage.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't even played Connections yet.

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<v Speaker 2>What a day? What a day? A day we will

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about a serial killer coming up in our

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<v Speaker 2>true This.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a serial killer you've probably never heard about, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fun. Isn't it fun to discover new ones?

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<v Speaker 2>It'sn't it fun? Isn't that what you just said? Isn't

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<v Speaker 2>it fun?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>To fight out about the new serial killers that we've

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<v Speaker 2>never heard of them?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and it could be a new way to move

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<v Speaker 1>forward into the true crime world.

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<v Speaker 2>The Associated Press points out that former president and the

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<v Speaker 2>newly President elects Trump has been conspicuously out of view

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<v Speaker 2>since his win.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true, Well, he probably needs sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>No rallies, no press conferences, no speeches.

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<v Speaker 1>The two of them were running around with their hair

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<v Speaker 1>on fire for the past couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine what those schedules were like. Trump spent

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<v Speaker 1>The monthly medium percentage of premium streaming video subscribers who

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix and Spotify got to keep those. He says, those

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<v Speaker 1>don't get paused ever, I'd be exiled. But other services

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<v Speaker 1>Because I've spent the last couple of days thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm wondering how streaming sites can keep you locked

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<v Speaker 1>in for make it it has to be a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Could they do that where you don't get it, you

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<v Speaker 2>What they do is, and I've seen this before, is

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<v Speaker 2>same deal until you've been a non subscriber for like

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<v Speaker 2>two full calendar years or something like that. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>get DirecTV still that. Yeah, So that's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>ways that they've done it before. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>HBO Max Max say that they've had two or more

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<v Speaker 2>in the US have had two or more stints as subscribers.

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<v Speaker 2>since then. According to Twente, I think that if you

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<v Speaker 2>have probably subscribed to Netflix consistently for twenty plus years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>back of the old DVD days. Sure, I mean we

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<v Speaker 2>trying to think of one of the first things we

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<v Speaker 2>ever watched from Netflix was the Sopranos when they would send.

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<v Speaker 1>Me Ian was Gilmore Girls and Nip Tuck. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>I got those. It was when I first moved to

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<v Speaker 1>La so twenty years ago or whatever. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh man, five episodes of Niptoka.

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<v Speaker 3>This is amazing. It's gonna be an amazing night. I

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<v Speaker 1>Friends back the beginning of the binge watching. Oh yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 1>And you could feel the addiction take hold in those

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<v Speaker 1>in those early months, that couch could feel you take hold.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I had to get rid of that couch, no kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>You put that couch out of its misery.

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<v Speaker 1>It was funny when I left my first apartment in

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<v Speaker 1>out on the on the sidewalk, you know, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was in good condition, you know, just free or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And the girl that was moving in took all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff back into my apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>She could have just left it in.

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<v Speaker 3>Therefore, I could have done that, and I know and

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<v Speaker 3>she'd wanted it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in the morning, it was on the sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 1>By the afternoon she was bringing it back.

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<v Speaker 2>In funny all right, Serial Killer True Crime Tuesday. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to get just a real quick into

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that sounds awful. Just someone turning up on your

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kf

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<v Speaker 5>I A M six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Why were oh uh the the guy who faked his death?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Remember he was going to hook up with that Who's

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<v Speaker 2>Becky woman? Sure I found some as beck music.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>From Zamdam sober Off. Sure it's a song called Malahat.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where it really starts cooking.

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<v Speaker 3>I like this.

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<v Speaker 5>Can we keep this.

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<v Speaker 2>For every time we do stories about uzbeckistan fly story

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<v Speaker 2>about a traditional wedding. I feel like we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to work on our apps if we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm just picturing our outfits.

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<v Speaker 2>Close.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Midrid showing No, not not in this video.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh really?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wonder what it's about again, it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to say. It's a wedding. There was a wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the name of the song?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to tell you because yes, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how about True Crime Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 2>Do the story is true?

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<v Speaker 4>True?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 5>It sounds made up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Gary and Shannon Present.

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<v Speaker 3>Just email me the title. I'm gonna look at it later.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because then you'll do it during the meeting, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's that I need you there.

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<v Speaker 3>I will not do it during the meeting, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So ID Channel has a new true crime story to

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<v Speaker 1>bring to you, and they say this breaks the true

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<v Speaker 1>crime genre's conventions and it may be the future for

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<v Speaker 1>true crime because it's a Michael Bay production.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Bay has produced it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Born Evil, The serial Killer and the Savior.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, it's a serial killer story and how but

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<v Speaker 1>also features a savior. This is all about the serial

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<v Speaker 1>killer named Hayden Clark.

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<v Speaker 3>Did not ring a bell for me.

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<v Speaker 1>They say his name is not familiar even to committed

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<v Speaker 1>true crime officionados because his story is freaking bananas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it, I mean I was trying to keep track

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<v Speaker 2>of this. I mean just the mechanics of who this

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<v Speaker 1>His crazy presented itself repeatedly. He's not the charismatic serial

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<v Speaker 1>killer everyone thought was just the nice, normal guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, we're shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>He was described as a twitchy, psychotic drifter camping in

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<v Speaker 2>So he may consider himself a nice guy, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>evicted from a basement that he was renting. So in

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<v Speaker 2>order to get back at the landlord, he put fish

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<v Speaker 2>guts inside the fresh drywall, which is behind I should

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<v Speaker 3>A mean prank.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awful, but you know how tenants can be sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he raises the bar when his younger brother, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>who was actually very sensitive and very compassionate, when Jeff said, hey, Hayden,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot stay with me anymore, Hayden decided to punish

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<v Speaker 1>him by killing a little girl who lived next door.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy, Hayden Clark, had been a navyman, a chef,

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<v Speaker 2>a courier, a gardener, as a bucket full of trophies,

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<v Speaker 2>they say from his likely hundreds of victims all around

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<v Speaker 3>And then it gets weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's not weird.

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<v Speaker 1>He drank his victim's blood. He also has an alternate personality.

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<v Speaker 1>Alternate personality who does he go by?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it Frank?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it Bob? No, it's Kristin. Kristin e Bluefin is

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<v Speaker 1>his alternate personality. Kristin, as you can imagine, wears women's

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<v Speaker 2>So the brother again, the little brother, Jeff says that

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<v Speaker 2>Hayden wasn't right from birth, and he distinguishes Hayden's brand

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<v Speaker 2>of evil as a level beyond that of their older brother, Bradfield,

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<v Speaker 2>who is also a proven murderer and likely a cannibalistic

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<v Speaker 2>serial killer. But wait, there's more.

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<v Speaker 1>He claims their father was a serial killer as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, where does the savior come into this, because you

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<v Speaker 2>said that this also includes the story of a savior.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that is the rest of the story. Sorry that

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to do a Paul Harvey's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I should have left it for the end.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you know the rest of the story. He's

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<v Speaker 1>no longer with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope. When did he die? In our hearts? I would

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<v Speaker 2>say he died around twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he died soon before. Then in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and nine, you took the under I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I did. But what a life.

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<v Speaker 2>So the other half of the story is where this

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<v Speaker 2>gets weird because oftentimes, like you said, this true crime format,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no redeeming character, there's no hero, there's no hero.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a hero here, and the hero comes in

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<v Speaker 3>the unlikely form of a.

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<v Speaker 2>Drug dealer, Jack Truett. They said he kind of looked

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<v Speaker 2>like a lost member of zz Top. But he becomes

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<v Speaker 2>Hayden's roommate at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Hayden at the time is crazy enough, legit crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to think that this guy Jack is the son of God,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wants to confess all of his sins to

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<v Speaker 1>Jack so that they can be washed away. Now Jack

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<v Speaker 1>wants nothing to do with this guy. He's obviously a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy cougar pants. But when Hayden says he knows where

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<v Speaker 1>a little girl's body was hidden, Jack feels, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>do something now, man got to figure out what this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's into.

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<v Speaker 3>So Hayden confesses his crimes in a diary.

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<v Speaker 1>And uncovers Jack does far more murders than anyone had

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<v Speaker 1>to anticipate it.

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<v Speaker 2>So not only is this with that savior character sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a different take on the true crime genre, the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that this is a Michael Bay produced show.

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<v Speaker 1>It has transformers in it, not necessarily, but it does

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<v Speaker 1>have what they said would be energetic editing the day

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<v Speaker 1>go day glow, paint splattered graphics, color treatments that are

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<v Speaker 1>pumped up and better than usual, recreations, and interview settings

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<v Speaker 1>and instead of just experts and witnesses sitting in a

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<v Speaker 1>living room, right, they say, everyone has a memorable introduction

446
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<v Speaker 1>and a role to play in the unfolding of the

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<v Speaker 1>story like a scripted show. Jack for instance, is interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>in an ornate church surrounded by lick candles. They say

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<v Speaker 1>that this may be the way forward when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to true crime.

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<v Speaker 3>But is it entertain me?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me a movie story that's real, a story like

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<v Speaker 1>a story in movie fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>That a real story in movie fashion. Yeah, it does

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<v Speaker 2>seem like it's not been done before.

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<v Speaker 3>It has been done, but not in an hour on

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<v Speaker 3>ID channel.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. But again it's called born evil. They said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's got it in important practical purpose because Hayden Clark

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<v Speaker 2>is currently eligible for parole has stated very plainly that

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<v Speaker 2>he will return to killing if released, and he will

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<v Speaker 2>start with his younger brother Jeff when.

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<v Speaker 3>We come back.

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<v Speaker 1>The True Crime Tuesday continues with the terrorism that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to pedal in the fashion of people stopping by

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<v Speaker 1>your home unannounced. Gonna nothing is scarier than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Garyan Shannon will continue.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Garyan Shannon KFI AM six forty Live Everywhere on the

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<v Speaker 2>iHeartRadio app. One of the big stories that came out

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<v Speaker 2>in New York today, a judge has postponed a decision

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<v Speaker 2>on whether to undo Trump's hush money conviction. Prosecutors trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out how to proceed in this case. Sentencing

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<v Speaker 2>had been set for November twenty six, but Manhattan prosecutors

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<v Speaker 2>now say they're reassessing they are open to the possibility

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<v Speaker 2>that the proceedings cannot go as planned. In this case,

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<v Speaker 2>the judge may actually just dismissed the charges jury convicted

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and may of falsifying business records relating to that

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<v Speaker 2>payment that he supposedly made to storm me Daniels, and

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<v Speaker 2>he has denied any wrongdoing. So wow, what's the matter.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just a lot of fields.

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<v Speaker 1>You can become a phoenix in business, criminal justice, cybersecurity, education, healthcare, nursing, psychology, tech,

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<v Speaker 1>behavioral sciences.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite an explosion. There's a story live on CNN right now,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, of a building that exploded in Louisville, Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like some sort of shipping warehouse. There are some

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<v Speaker 1>big trucks on the side the connected. Is that like

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<v Speaker 1>a gas.

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<v Speaker 3>Explosion or that seems I mean that seems the most likely,

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<v Speaker 3>right in.

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<v Speaker 2>A building like that, in that kind of a town

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<v Speaker 2>or that kind of environment. Yes, massive explosion. Said that

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<v Speaker 2>some people have been missing, although if you can see

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<v Speaker 2>right behind it, see the train tracks right behind it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there's another picture that I see taken from next to

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<v Speaker 2>those train tracks, whereas there are some big tanker cars

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<v Speaker 2>that have fallen over. I don't know if the explosion

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<v Speaker 2>would have been in the building that pushed the cars over,

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<v Speaker 2>if it was the explosion on the train that then

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<v Speaker 2>hit the building. Multiple patients, according to Louisville, Kentucky Fire

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<v Speaker 2>and multiple patients, persons unaccounted for at least one person trapped.

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<v Speaker 1>Windows in Clifton just blown away, blocks away, blocks away,

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<v Speaker 1>the windows were blown out.

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<v Speaker 2>The incident, they say, does involve hazardous materials, so a

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<v Speaker 2>shelter in place order has been issued for everybody within

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<v Speaker 2>a mile radius of Again, this is an explosion in Louisville, Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Shelter and place order issued for those within the one

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<v Speaker 2>mile radius according to emergency officials. And helicopter footage that

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<v Speaker 2>you can see shows one section of that building completely

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<v Speaker 2>collapsed in looked like it had burned significantly. And then

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<v Speaker 2>images like you said, of these businesses and homes from

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<v Speaker 2>pretty far distance away where their windows completely just blown out,

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<v Speaker 2>reports of an ammonia leak in the area.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and D. D.

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<v Speaker 2>Williamson and Company apparently is the name of the company

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<v Speaker 2>that is in that building. So don't know exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>it is that they do there, but they.

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<v Speaker 1>Said shelter in place for those in a one mile radius.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the Clifton neighborhood on Pain Street there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and again a couple of train tracks run right

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<v Speaker 2>behind this building, but don't know if that was it

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<v Speaker 2>was the train, something on the train that exploded or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe something in the building that exploded, but we'll keep

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<v Speaker 2>an eye on that through the course of the afternoon. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this story kind of was a funny version of, or

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of extension of what we talked about when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to social media and the way people interact

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<v Speaker 2>these days. And somebody reminded me that Sebastian Manuscalco, the

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<v Speaker 2>stand up comedian, did a bit about doorbells now means

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<v Speaker 2>something completely different than they used to.

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<v Speaker 4>I was sitting in my house a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 4>just relaxing. My doorbell rang. This is weird. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>different feeling when your doorbell rings today opposed to twenty

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<v Speaker 4>years ago. Right, twenty years ago, your doorbell rang. That

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<v Speaker 4>was a happy moment in your house. It's called company.

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<v Speaker 4>Be sitting there on a Thursday night watching TV. Your

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<v Speaker 4>doorbell rang, the whole family shut off.

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<v Speaker 2>Put the lights on. Somebody's here. We got people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so true. Now we're just all looking at screens.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't don't just track me from my screen with an

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<v Speaker 1>actual person.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and even when people do come over, you can

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<v Speaker 2>look at a screen. If you have a little video doorbell,

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<v Speaker 2>you can literally see them on your little screen before

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<v Speaker 2>before you answer the door. If you so choose, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to know that you're home.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to a couple family gatherings where everyone's together

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<v Speaker 1>but they're just on their phones. It drives me insane.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to my brother's house recently for his fiftieth

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<v Speaker 1>birthday and all the kids, I didn't see a phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's talking, they're playing football in the street. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so nice, so refreshing. And I don't even know how

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<v Speaker 1>you do you Yeah, TV was on, there was football

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<v Speaker 1>on or whatever, but that's different because you're all watching

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<v Speaker 1>it together. Some of you are in the living room

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<v Speaker 1>watching it. You know, you're not in your own world

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<v Speaker 1>playing candy Blaster.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh what, Oh that's my game, candy Blaster.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, that's your game.

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<v Speaker 2>The question of how we interact as neighbors, too, think

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<v Speaker 2>is important. I've always liked the idea I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in a great neighborhood where we knew the people across

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<v Speaker 2>the street, we knew the people next door, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and that when that young family moved out, or when

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<v Speaker 2>the when the old eye doctor moved out and the

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<v Speaker 2>new young family moved in, it was kind of exciting

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole the whole block got together and welcomed them,

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<v Speaker 2>and we would do the Fourth of July parties out

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<v Speaker 2>in the street and all that sort of stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in a great neighborhood with a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of friends and friendly families. I've never seen that since

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<v Speaker 2>ever in that not that I've I've lived in plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of different neighborhoods, kind of styles of neighborhoods, condo complexes,

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<v Speaker 2>apartment complexes and things like that, and I've never had

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<v Speaker 2>that same, that same feeling we had.

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<v Speaker 3>That in the Marina.

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<v Speaker 1>Knew the neighbors would get together, you know, periodically, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I've got a great set of neighbors now who

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<v Speaker 1>have like a you know, four or five houses, couples

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<v Speaker 1>over for food three four times a year.

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<v Speaker 2>But would you really just what, would you just go

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<v Speaker 2>knock on the door? No, say hi. So recently, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>within the last year or so, Amazon package is delivered

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<v Speaker 2>or it wasn't. Amazon was some delivery package, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>they sent me a picture, Hey, we delivered it. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the picture. That's the package my porch. And it turned

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<v Speaker 2>out it was the neighbor's porch, and I walked over

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<v Speaker 2>and knocked on the door, and we've interacted. We're not.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's literally next door. We've interacted, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't we're not friends with them. Were neighbors. And the

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<v Speaker 2>voice through the door, who is it? And I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking directly into their video doorbell, so I know

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<v Speaker 2>they can see who I am. Hey, it's scary from

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<v Speaker 2>next door. Yes, no one answers the door. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>no one opens the door. I just wanted to let

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<v Speaker 2>you know the package that was delivered. I'm holding the package.

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<v Speaker 2>This is actually addressed to me. Came over to grab

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<v Speaker 2>it real quick, not to bother you. Okay, never answered

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<v Speaker 2>the door, never open, not just this building. Whoever is

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<v Speaker 2>left that thinks you're a d it's your neighborhood. But

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<v Speaker 2>what as well? She didn't know what I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you just let me get away with that?

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<v Speaker 1>That was a joke. It still hurts. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>a joke, I know, But sometimes helping hurts. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you were trying to help me by by poking

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<v Speaker 1>fun at me.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes that hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want somebody to come in here and give

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<v Speaker 1>you a hug? Before our post mortem meeting. Nope, because

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<v Speaker 1>I can find somebody that's a hugger. Oh really, you

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<v Speaker 1>can find somebody on this floor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know. Sharon's here, Sharon'll get I already

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<v Speaker 3>gave her a hug.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't double dip. You cannot double John Cobelt choke

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<v Speaker 1>up next.

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<v Speaker 2>See you tomorrow day.

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<v Speaker 3>Drive everybody, blessings.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show. You

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