WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:13.839 Oh, hello, what Mike You made eye contact with me again? 2 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:14.400 Sorry? 3 00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:16.280 Yeah, that's the role with Mike. You don't make eye contact. 4 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:21.160 Right everyone, I'm Dan. We are fire Escape, and by 5 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:23.600 we I mean me Dan, I mean Mike Maharty, I 6 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:27.559 mean Mary Kish. We will explain this other entity in 7 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:30.399 just a moment here and gives me just walking around. 8 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:33.520 That's razor, folks. We are here for Game of the 9 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:37.719 Year twenty twenty five, one of the best years in gaming, 10 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:40.159 I think since we have started this podcast, it's a 11 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:43.280 big one. Be content number one. This is we were 12 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:44.920 talking at dinner last night. I think this might be 13 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:48.079 the most unpredictable top ten. I think in the past 14 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:49.920 we've look we had a lot to talk about. But 15 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:53.880 first definitely have to introduce the fourth member of fire Escape, 16 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:57.840 the coolest member of fire Escape. It's that time of year, folks. 17 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:03.039 It's cool Judge Jay. Look at that guy there is 18 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:04.000 looking cooler than. 19 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:07.159 The things on track here. No, rants, if you talk 20 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:08.599 too long, I'm gonna hit you in the head with 21 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:11.640 my gaffle. Oh we're just gonnaet assault at this point. Now, Okay, 22 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:14.599 great this year fresh wow, fresh out of cryo sleep. 23 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:16.280 Where we keep him all year until we need him 24 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:16.879 for game year. 25 00:01:16.840 --> 00:01:18.319 And then we wake them up to edit the podcast 26 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:21.719 and social clips and stuff like that. One dirty dirty 27 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:25.519 wig that SHU to think where it's been. I think 28 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:28.079 that's I think that's the super Dan sixty four wig 29 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:30.040 that I wore when I was playing Superman sixty four. 30 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:32.159 So it's just my bald head. There's not a lot 31 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:34.200 of you know, hair, there's no hair going on. So 32 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:37.480 you're good, folks. What are we doing? I'm sorry I 33 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:39.719 made our contact with the not that you might you 34 00:01:39.719 --> 00:01:40.480 can make eye contact. 35 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:42.560 It was that when you you did it twice and everyone, 36 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:44.920 folks looking right at me point blank. 37 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:49.120 Where you want to explain? Like the loose format? Yeah, yeah, 38 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:50.879 So if you have not seen our Game of the 39 00:01:50.959 --> 00:01:53.480 Year before, are we on here at table cam now? Okay, 40 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:56.000 hello everyone, high. This is the came we'll be working 41 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:59.920 with most of the time. We have twenty five category 42 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:03.040 you know, some favorites, some new, and then we will 43 00:02:03.120 --> 00:02:05.400 end with the top ten games of the year ordered 44 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:07.840 and we will be debating each and every one of these. 45 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:09.960 We can see the nominees here. We will be having 46 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.240 picture and picture for you folks watching the video version 47 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:14.919 and we're gonna whittle every one of these categories down 48 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:18.479 to a winner and then two runners up. And if 49 00:02:18.479 --> 00:02:20.639 you're again, if you're watching the video version, you will 50 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:22.960 see that, and if you're listening to the audio version, 51 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:24.919 we will be going over all this stuff, so you 52 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:29.159 will know exactly where we are at any other housekeeping here, 53 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:30.400 We're gonna be here for a long time. 54 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:35.599 We have we have some very serious categories. We take 55 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.719 this really seriously around here, so try and keep with 56 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:42.639 us as we go through. Anywhere between four and twelve 57 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:48.120 nominees per category, we will debate them and we're and 58 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:49.919 then we have a top ten as well, so we 59 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:53.080 actually have a lot to get through in this time. 60 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:57.400 And first category is very serious too. Yeah, a should 61 00:02:57.400 --> 00:02:58.800 we start? Like you know, it just kind of a downer. 62 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:02.360 It's kind of a serious one. It's been a serious year. Yeah, 63 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:04.159 it's been a tough one. So we are going to 64 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:07.560 start with Jake Decker, cool judge Jake. What is our 65 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:12.319 first category? There's the list, people can see it now. 66 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:19.919 First up, best balls, First up ball x pit Rematch, 67 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:24.520 Rosary beads, the hollow night silks, you belave that. Have 68 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:24.840 you seen this? 69 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:27.560 Have you heard about I've heard about these beads Doom 70 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:30.680 the Dark Ages. Just generally you use a couple of 71 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:31.960 balls when you're attacking the. 72 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:34.000 Questions about that, but we'll get to it. I don't 73 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:36.560 know we'll get to that one. Basically, all the characters 74 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:40.439 and Kirby air Riders are balls, specifically Rick Lololo and 75 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:43.000 La La La waddle d and Kirby. 76 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.919 It's just like so much specificity doesn't make it more valuable, 77 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:48.280 Like there's other ones like Rematch that also does. 78 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:54.360 It sounds like you're already insulting the judge because, hey, Judge, 79 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:57.639 balls are in Rematch. I don't need to ask where 80 00:03:57.639 --> 00:03:59.319 the balls are in a soccer game. I think it's 81 00:03:59.319 --> 00:03:59.759 pretty clear. 82 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:05.960 Our next nominee is those robot arc balls in Arc Raiders, 83 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:10.319 Once Upon a Katamari morph ball, Metroid Prime. 84 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:17.480 Four bomb, Catterpillar in Okay. Well, uh, you know, Rematch 85 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:20.240 it just it has balls in it. It's a soccer game. 86 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:23.879 I don't think there's anything extraordinary about these balls. I 87 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:25.399 think we can cut Rematch. 88 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:27.759 Yeah, what balls and do in the Dark Ages? Who 89 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:28.800 has that? 90 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:31.079 Boss fights are all ball based. 91 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:33.279 They throw balls at you and you have to make 92 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:35.920 sure that you avoid the red balls and get the green. 93 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:40.319 The projectile just about projectiles, I mean there's spiracle the 94 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:42.279 projectiles and balls such. 95 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:44.319 A minor point though, the idea that like in some 96 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:49.000 places it's projectiles and some but they're they're like a projectiles. 97 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:51.199 The bullet hell aspects they use like round projectiles. Yea, 98 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:56.199 truly balls. Robot arc balls those are ones that they 99 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:57.879 roll around that such on fires. 100 00:04:58.120 --> 00:04:59.879 I don't want them on this list. I hate the 101 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:03.759 it's just best balls, I know. I don't like the walls. Yeah, 102 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:07.720 let's cut the robot arc balls and rematch. Yeah, okay, 103 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:10.600 I actually don't think the robot art balls are particularly 104 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:12.399 interesting to fight even I hate them. 105 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:16.240 Yeah, they're not. I don't. I don't like them. Who 106 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:21.600 wants to go to town for the bomb caterpillar and ooh? 107 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:25.600 I mean it's I just started playing this in my 108 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:30.600 first few hours of ooh, this is a really awesome 109 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:34.959 concept of your caterpillar is made of bombs. It's a 110 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:37.879 ball for a head, a ball bomb one and ball 111 00:05:37.959 --> 00:05:39.879 bomb two and use it to solve puzzles. 112 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:42.519 They are absolutely balls. 113 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:44.199 I don't know if. 114 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:47.360 Well, hold on, I have a question. I'm gonna cut 115 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:49.879 you off. Are we is it the most spherical balls? 116 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:50.600 Is it? 117 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:50.800 Like? 118 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:55.120 Is it at implement implementation of balls? I think that's 119 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:56.480 something we need to clarify. 120 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:58.240 These are all balls. We're at the point where you're 121 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:02.560 no longer you know these are all great balls. Well, okay, 122 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:09.879 judge honorably with respect. Uh the Kirby air Riders being balls. 123 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:12.079 I mean every character is a ball. Have you seen 124 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:15.319 there's a lot of spherical Kirby But they're lumpy balls. 125 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:18.920 They've got like feet and little wing hands. Well, I 126 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:19.920 mean they're. 127 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:22.879 Ball and once once upon a Catamara, that's a lumpy 128 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:24.319 ball too, and it gets lumpier. 129 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:27.279 That is true. Like we aren't saying the most perfectly 130 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.600 geometrically spherical balls here. 131 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:31.319 Maybe that's what That's what he was asking, is it 132 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:33.839 or is the best implementation of what we can agree? 133 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:36.439 I think it's our favorite balls? Okay, yeah, fos a 134 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:37.120 favorite balls? 135 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:41.439 Ok Actively, you know, I think But hold on, have 136 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:44.600 you guys seen Rick. He's the hamster. He's a hamster 137 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:48.439 and he's a ball pretty much and he runs. His 138 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:50.480 name is Rick. I do like that? Yeah, I mean 139 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:53.879 you could have just put Rick on there. Yeah, maybe 140 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:55.160 it should have been more sulky. Can we do it? 141 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:56.759 I mean, we can change your right too, thick, just 142 00:06:56.759 --> 00:06:58.079 straight through everything except Rick. 143 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:02.199 Just just delete it and just put beer writers. Okay, yeah, yeah, 144 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:04.079 I think that'll help once upon. I don't know about 145 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:07.399 this doom stuff. I will buy your thesis that they 146 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:10.279 are balls. Now. I don't think they are best balls. 147 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:13.120 I don't think they're the best balls. They are against you. 148 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:14.839 You want to get the green balls, but I don't 149 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:16.120 think it's gonna win. 150 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:19.000 Just competition here, Yeah. 151 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:19.399 Yeah, I agree. 152 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:21.360 Give me an argument for ball x pit. 153 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:26.759 The whole game revolves around utilizing balls to overpower your demons. 154 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:29.920 Whether or not it's got balls, I'm saying, whether they're not, 155 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:30.399 they're the best. 156 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:32.879 You interrupted me while I was making my point. The 157 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:36.240 whole game revolves around amplifying the power of your balls 158 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:38.920 to do creative and magical things, to take out demons 159 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:40.879 and skeletons and caterpillars. 160 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:43.120 The new evolutions of your balls and stuff like there 161 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:46.199 is the most like ball flexibility and come from behind right, 162 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:48.720 and then also there's like the ball your characters kind 163 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:51.480 of become balls when you're doing the town building ball. Yeah, 164 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:55.360 that's what he was talking about. Yeah, that's interesting, it is. Yeah, okay, 165 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:58.360 we'll leave her. I like ball x pit Rosary beats 166 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:01.879 are good. We cut doing the dark ages. Yes, okay 167 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:07.759 with that Katamari. You know the judge is right. It is. 168 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:10.040 It is a lumpy ball. It is the whole game 169 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:12.360 is based around that ball. Though it is like the 170 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:15.160 whole Katamari is a ball based game. 171 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:15.839 Yeah, but they. 172 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:18.399 Can't all be ball winners. Some of these have to 173 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:21.959 be ball losers. And Katamari is probably not going to 174 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:27.800 beat Metroid prime ball or Rosary bead ball or rick ball. Like, 175 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:29.839 let's be reasonable. 176 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:32.279 I noticed you didn't mention ooh are we thinking ooh? 177 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:34.279 Is maybe it's got. 178 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:37.480 Great balls, But I'm I'm eyeing it for like things 179 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:39.480 that I think it excels at even more than balls. 180 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:42.279 I don't think balls is why this game is so amazing. 181 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:44.720 I think bombs is why this is so amazing. 182 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:47.840 What shape or bombs? Well, it has like a little 183 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:51.200 nowble on it. It's not best bombs either. This is 184 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:53.720 best ball. I don't think it's the best balls or 185 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:57.600 beads balls. Yes, yeah, but bombs are bomb. The bombs 186 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:00.240 and video the interperfect there's not enough on the rosary beads. 187 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:03.440 We're going on shape and Kris out I agree, that's 188 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:06.039 just a conglomeration of random ship that you ball. 189 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:10.960 Yeah, you know what, we can cut Rick? I love Ricky, 190 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:13.720 but very honorable of you, judge. 191 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:17.799 All right, so we've cut Rick Katamari and oh so 192 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:19.360 are we down to the threes that ball x pit, 193 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:20.240 rosary beads and. 194 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:25.759 Pick who's the winner. Hold on rosary beads. Really it's 195 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:27.639 the most important currency. 196 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:30.960 It is, and it's it's terrible, actually, I kind of 197 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.399 I think I backed the rosary beads only because when 198 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:35.840 you break something, they fly everywhere and it's really annoying 199 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:40.799 and role But I kind of like that that's the 200 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:42.720 all in there ball. 201 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:45.200 Sound effects, you know, the noise that it makes when 202 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:46.039 they crash on the ground. 203 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:47.919 You're like my balls and you have to grab. 204 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:50.639 Them because of their value. They are like some of 205 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:53.639 the best balls to get in this list. 206 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:56.679 They are the most coveted balls on this list. 207 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:58.639 In my opinion, No ball x pit is a game 208 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:00.679 around The balls themselves are are the power of the 209 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.039 projectile that takes out enemies. The beads are a currency 210 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:05.000 with which to acquire more power. But the balls and 211 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:08.200 bocks pit are the power, are the chief attraction. That's 212 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:09.240 why you're in that game. 213 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:12.679 I am not. Is it fair to say bomb caterpillar 214 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:15.679 can go now? Oh yeah, I think we just got 215 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:17.960 a lifetime achievement, you know, for the more fall is 216 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.639 still the more fall. It is tremendous. It looks great, 217 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:23.080 it sounds great. You hop around and lay little bombs. 218 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:26.480 It's a ball that makes other balls that explode. Yeah, great, 219 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:29.039 it's fantastic. It's maybe if this are a mount Rushmore 220 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:32.399 of balls, I think the more fall might be George Washington, 221 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:33.919 do you ever think about a mount Rushmore of balls 222 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:35.240 than what that would look like? You have no idea 223 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:40.720 how much? Who get four sets of balls? So it 224 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:45.960 would be eight balls or two scrotums? Whoa, you're getting 225 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:49.440 dirty sets of balls because two scrums are really one entity. 226 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:53.279 That's true. Okay, can you run George washing lower like 227 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:57.000 beneath the mount Rushmore? You see them? So actually, can 228 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.600 you change this category from best balls to mount Rushmore 229 00:10:59.639 --> 00:10:59.960 of ball? 230 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:01.480 And then we got to put on our what was 231 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:02.960 the fourth but then we need the fourth one? 232 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.320 I mean I think, yeah, I think, Rick I would 233 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:07.639 like to see Rick on a Mount Rushmore. Sure, can 234 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:13.279 we just do that? And then the George Washington boy Ballpit? 235 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:16.360 You got a good argument for that, Mike. That's a 236 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:19.159 game about balls. It's in the title of all the Balls. 237 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:21.360 The variety balls is insane. It's in the title. 238 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:24.879 There's there's electric balls, there's fireballs on. 239 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:28.559 My favorite balls from balls. 240 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:31.000 The more they bounce, the more, the faster they go, 241 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:32.600 and then you get them into the one of the 242 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:34.840 alcoves between enemies and then they're just fucking I. 243 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:37.440 Think we I think we have George Washington. But who's 244 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:39.960 the winner. I don't think it matters. All that matters 245 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:43.360 to the George Washington. I think ballpit is George Washington. 246 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.559 Yeah, therefore the winner of Yeah, yeah, I agree, we're 247 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:48.080 in ballpit, all right? 248 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:51.279 I think yeah, So I forget who officially announces the judge? 249 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:54.320 All right, judge, still the winner of the Mount Rushmore 250 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:55.480 of balls is ballpit? 251 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:58.480 Ball x pit? Excellent? 252 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:00.159 Are you supposed to say ballpit? Have E been saying 253 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:03.360 it wrong? I think it's I think it's like cross pit. Yeah, 254 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.360 it looks like rre supposed to cross or no fighting games. 255 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:07.759 You're supposed to say, cross the ex. 256 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:11.480 Cross pit. Oh, I just came back from France, so 257 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:14.879 I should understand that Follock's Pit Mike did fly here 258 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:18.200 directly from France. What what region of France, the South? 259 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:21.879 What's the best vineyard this time of the year in 260 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:23.159 the South region of France. 261 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:24.879 This time of year. None, the vineyards are good bozo, 262 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:29.159 but it's bullsh pete. 263 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:32.200 All right, Yeah, I think we have a winner. Great, 264 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:39.519 all right. Next category is most dewey game of the 265 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:47.120 Year are Megabunk, Donkey Kong, Bonanza, Keeper, Kirby Air Riders, 266 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:54.960 ball Pit, Shinobi Tower Dominion, Mario Kart Worlds, Once Upon 267 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:59.240 a Katamari, a game about digging a hole Sectory. Oh, 268 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:01.519 I knew he was gonna do something weird with that. 269 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:07.080 And Powerwash Simulator too. It's Powerwash Simulator too cozy, too 270 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:08.960 laid back to be like. When I think dewey, I 271 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:11.200 do think just like, hey, we're just going, we're going, 272 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:12.960 you know, like there's like a thing where you go 273 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:15.080 back to a hub and you're taking missions and stuff. 274 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:16.120 There's things that aren't just. 275 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:19.440 Like ah, don't you also like put down furniture and 276 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:22.399 stuff that seems yeah, interface scene, I would say we 277 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:26.000 cut powersh Okay, any games here that, like, there's a 278 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:27.720 bunch of games here that you literally don't even get 279 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:28.519 an intro cut scene. 280 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:32.799 You're just playing immediately. I Sectory is like Sectory Megabari 281 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:36.240 almost like intentionally doesn't give you any kind of tutorial. 282 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.039 Megabonk is also right. I think those are two extremely 283 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:39.919 strong condenders. 284 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:42.399 And believe Ballpit you're also right in it right when 285 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:45.000 it starts. Yeah, my point being, are there any obvious 286 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:46.639 ones we can cut because they literally start with a 287 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:47.039 cut scene? 288 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:49.039 I mean like Ninja Gutting four. Actually, Ninja Gutting four 289 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:51.000 does drop you right into like a train fight with 290 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:52.360 the billion dudes, But there are a lot of cut 291 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:54.360 scenes and stuff in Ninja Gutting four. Do we ask 292 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:56.279 Ninja game but it's got a lot of cut scenes 293 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:58.440 in it. Where agreed, Yeah, I think we cut Ninja 294 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:02.639 Gutting four. I think Donkey Kong is doing this is 295 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:05.120 a very dowey game, but it does start with some exposition. 296 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:09.879 I don't think Punching Ship that it's immediately dewey. They're like, 297 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:12.679 I don't think a cut scene or occasional cut scenes 298 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:13.919 disqualifies something. 299 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:16.159 Let's think about other things like is there text in. 300 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:19.639 The game ever? All of these are going to have 301 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:20.519 some texts. 302 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.559 I mean no Keeper Keeper, I don't think had any 303 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:26.320 text that who has no you start off and you 304 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:27.120 gotta squeeze out. 305 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:29.120 Of the ground, or has no text, say like game 306 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:30.080 about digging a hole. 307 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:32.120 There's menus you have to read. 308 00:14:32.279 --> 00:14:34.039 You have to buy things. 309 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:36.639 Yeah, I mean for anybody who's new, because I know 310 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:39.480 this is like fire Escape par Dewey should we yeah, 311 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:40.159 really talking. 312 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:44.440 About like we like probably Dewey games or just games 313 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:47.120 where you're just doing stuff thinky games, or you're like 314 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:49.279 thinking and doing puzzles, and then there's talking. There's Dowey 315 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:51.399 thinking and talking is the oppossete of talking. There's really 316 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:53.919 there's not a ton of exposition. It's not like stopping 317 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:56.320 for cut scenes every five minutes. You're just playing the game. 318 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:58.759 You're in the ship. I think of like old arcade 319 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:02.759 games like an Asteroids or galag We're just playing. We're going, Yeah, 320 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:05.440 I Shouldoby's extremely dewy. I think cut it for some reasons, 321 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:07.639 as they're just a story and stuff. There's a story 322 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:10.600 Tower Dominion. There's a lot of texts. I actually bounced 323 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:12.559 off because there's a this amount tutorial and stuff there too. 324 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:15.320 Oh yeah, for sure. I think Katamari has got a story. 325 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:15.919 We can cut that. 326 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:21.519 Uh what I think it's just like very unprecious about. 327 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:24.000 These Well, okay them cut Donkey Kuong Bananza, which has 328 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.799 a story. There are villains, there's a robes gallery of 329 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:27.960 villains to get to know. 330 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.279 But like that, the actual just playing that game, that 331 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:33.399 is just such a fucking dewey game. Well so is 332 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:35.960 Katamar isn't it Once you're actually in it. Katamaria has 333 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:40.000 like a decent amount of like listening to the scale 334 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:42.960 or the extent of the story. Yeah, And it's like 335 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:46.600 you're so rarely getting interrupted in Bonanza and Katamari. It 336 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:48.279 is like these levels are kind of short. In between 337 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:49.639 each one of them, you are going to go back, 338 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:51.200 you're like kind of a hub world. Then you're going 339 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:52.720 to go in and talk to the guy. And in 340 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:56.039 the middle of doing sometimes his head talk to the guy. Yeah, 341 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:58.879 I'm saying that, I'm arguing we should cut this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 342 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:01.480 which one Katamari? Oh gocha talk to the guy? 343 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:08.320 I would say ball x pit. There's some management going 344 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:10.559 on in between runs. That you're reading a decent amount 345 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:13.080 because you're, yeah, you're strategizing your town. There's a lot 346 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:15.120 of downtime where you're not exactly do it Like the 347 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:17.200 town mini game, you don't actually, I mean you line 348 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:19.360 them up, but then they ad auto run. 349 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.759 I guess that's kind of the game though. But yeah, yeah, 350 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:26.960 I think we can cut that. You know, ooh is 351 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:29.559 very dewey from what we just saw it, like Jake 352 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:31.240 has played before, but we just saw it today and 353 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:34.840 that's really cool. But it's I think it's almost more 354 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:37.440 thinking think than dewey. I think I put it in thinky. 355 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:39.600 I probably shouldn't have put it in both, but yeah, 356 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:41.399 I was gonna argue though this it's really really not 357 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:44.480 a talking you literally, it's not there's no tutorially, you're 358 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:46.600 figuring it out through the mechanics the whole time, like 359 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.440 they don't tell you anything like Sectory actually has text 360 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:51.679 telling you how certain things work up front. 361 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:53.399 Okay, not that that's the only metric. 362 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:54.720 I just wanted to point that out because they're right 363 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:56.879 next to each other, and I saw the comparison. 364 00:16:57.600 --> 00:16:59.960 But I'm fine with let's cut ooh ooh not being there. 365 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:04.759 Mario Kart World. I mean it's a racing game. It's dewey. Uh, 366 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:08.000 there's downtime, lobbies, open world stuff. I think we got 367 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:11.240 Mario Kart all right out of the Nintendo racing games. 368 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:13.240 I think Kirby Air Riders is like that. It's just 369 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:15.720 so dewey, dowey, dowey in your face, like Dewey to 370 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:21.240 eleven where it's too dewey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, now 371 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:24.079 we're gonna does someone defend Keeper staying on this list? 372 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:27.559 I mean the reason I put did you put Keeper? 373 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:28.880 One of us put on it? 374 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:31.039 But the reason I think it makes sense for this 375 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:33.359 list is because there is no text. There is a story, 376 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:35.720 but it is mostly just told through the environment. In 377 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:37.559 the second like a limbo type thing kind of the 378 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:40.240 second you pick up the controller, you're like wiggling to 379 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:44.000 break free with the lighthouse. And sure there's lots of 380 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:48.279 different ways you doey things in it without spoiling very much. 381 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:51.599 There's no here's how you do it. 382 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:53.480 They just throw you in there and you have to 383 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:57.039 figure it out with environmental you know, trial and error, 384 00:17:57.079 --> 00:17:59.440 which I also really like. It reminds me of ooh 385 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:01.480 in that way where which is just like, at no 386 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:03.519 point does the game stop you and say this is 387 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:05.920 a new system for you to learn. It's just it 388 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:08.480 shows you, doesn't tell you. 389 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:11.400 It seems dewey for sure, But I think in the 390 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:14.759 face of games that are just like almost like Vampire Surviving, 391 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:17.359 like I think Vampire Survivors is like the patron saint 392 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:20.640 of of this you know category, and Keeper seems like 393 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:20.920 more of. 394 00:18:20.839 --> 00:18:23.680 A mellow Donkey Kong Banan's a pause for a while 395 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:25.640 to show me who this teenage girl was, who I 396 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:27.640 was like helping out from now on the journey and 397 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:29.759 telling setting up the stakes of her journey and how 398 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:32.000 it aligns with Donkey Kong's Jesus. 399 00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:34.799 Christ, I love this game so much, tel What are 400 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:39.440 you talking about right there? And I love this game. 401 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:41.839 I don't know, It's tough to say, because the heart 402 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:45.400 of that game is literally just DK smashing everything possible 403 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:47.799 to get bananas, which is as dewey as you can be. Yeah, 404 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:50.200 I think I think I would cut Kirby aer Writers 405 00:18:50.279 --> 00:18:52.880 over Donkey Kong Bananas. Okay, I think just because there 406 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:55.200 is Menuing and Kirby aer Writers and you might be 407 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:56.160 tweaking your machine. 408 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:59.039 Customer Tatorial stuff. There's these amount of like learning and 409 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:01.759 going through a million different modes, and so let's cut 410 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:06.079 Keeper and Kirby, Oh hold on, oh wait Keeper. There 411 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:14.119 I thought, is so smooth when like politicians sneak something 412 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:17.720 into a bill and then it gets literally it was like, 413 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:20.119 oh yeah, it sounds dewy, but it's like it's not 414 00:19:20.119 --> 00:19:22.119 like a Vampire Survivors type thing where things are happening 415 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:23.559 all the time. It's kind of more of a mellow thing. 416 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:25.240 That was me basically saying I think we should cut 417 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:27.400 it without saying we should cut it. Now, I'm saying 418 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:29.319 we should cut it. 419 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:34.079 Just clear it's exactly what I'm doing. Just try being 420 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:35.400 underhanded about it for a second. 421 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:37.400 I wasn't intending to, but I do think we should 422 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:37.680 cut it. 423 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:39.799 We're getting down to okay, so the Latin the next 424 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:42.400 the next one we cut, the remaining ones will be 425 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:43.000 the top three. 426 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:44.680 Yeah, we just have to set a winner. So like 427 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:48.319 we're down to Megabank, Donkey Kong, Bananza Keeper for now, 428 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:53.000 and Sectory. I do think I'm we haven't really talked 429 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:55.279 about its pros for this category, but is there any 430 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:59.519 knocks against Megabank? I don't see any no. 431 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:02.240 Like, it's probably one of the most I think dewey 432 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:03.440 games of the year ever. 433 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:06.920 Yeah, I mean you're if you you just start you 434 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:09.000 read menus like for a half second at a time, 435 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:11.200 because it tells you, oh, you can jump sixty percent 436 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:13.200 higher and you have dual sniper rifles now. 437 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:16.119 Yeah, and and like Donkey Kong, I don't think it's 438 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:19.240 disqualifying to occasionally have text or something, you know, Like, it's. 439 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:22.839 Not disqualifying, it's just we're we're past disqualifying. 440 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:24.920 What we're saying is is it's the most dewey. 441 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:27.640 It's not the best game that's dewey, it's the most dewey. 442 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:28.799 So at this. 443 00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:32.319 Level, what I'm saying is is that even text will 444 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:35.680 not get you to the next level because it's not. 445 00:20:35.680 --> 00:20:39.079 Doing I feel like Lighthouse is moving pretty slow, right, 446 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:43.200 I think dewey. I think be wh why you're also 447 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:50.079 precious about fucking you cunt. I was looking at you. 448 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:51.240 I was like, I don't think he's played it, but 449 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:53.440 he seems very against it. It seems like, oh, it's 450 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:55.240 a little tale of a little light. I was walking around. 451 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:57.799 You know, well, that is very naive you to think 452 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:00.359 that it's a lot more of that game than the. 453 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:02.359 Let's say it's it's a double fine game, so I'm 454 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:05.079 sure it's very charming and not fun to play. Wow, 455 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:10.119 like every fucking game they've ever made not called psychoonots too, 456 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:18.200 soa Cananza has some weak points. What oh Bonanza? You 457 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:20.359 got to get into a menu and pick your skills. 458 00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:22.839 There is a skilled tree in that game. Yeah, Young 459 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:25.759 is a skill tree. It's awesome to pause the game. 460 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:28.599 I mean, yeah, I love that game. It's very high 461 00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:31.119 up my personal top ten lists. But I think compared 462 00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:33.039 to these other ones. I haven't play Keeper, but from 463 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:34.200 what they're saying, it sounds. 464 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:38.200 Like in Sictory, when you want to upgrade, you have 465 00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:40.400 to do it mentally while you're playing the game. 466 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:42.039 You can barely move you you don't have time to 467 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:44.599 move your eyes, and sometimes you forget to upgrade. 468 00:21:44.839 --> 00:21:46.680 That comes into play with the way that they've built 469 00:21:46.680 --> 00:21:48.400 this game, where you'll be like, ah shit, I forgot 470 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:49.400 to do shield. 471 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:51.559 Because I'm so in the zone. That's dewey. 472 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:54.200 When you get to pause a game to think about 473 00:21:54.200 --> 00:21:56.599 how you're going to upgrade your character. Now you're into 474 00:21:56.640 --> 00:21:59.839 thinky territory. Now you're into strategizing. I mean, it's not 475 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:00.519 just Dowey. 476 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.400 Oh yeah, and also sectory that I unless I'm missing 477 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:04.960 a whole lot of it. They don't bother to set 478 00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:07.440 up why you're a triangle shooting at squares and stuff 479 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:09.759 like this, doesn't they say it's about like attaining a 480 00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:11.039 higher sense of consciousness. 481 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:13.839 But then they're done for the next twelve hours about 482 00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:16.000 they took you, like the strike mechanic, like these lines. 483 00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:17.440 I mean, you can do the charge thing, but they 484 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:20.480 intentionally don't explain a lot of stuff in sectory. 485 00:22:20.599 --> 00:22:22.799 Yeah, just to get you doing Oh, it took me 486 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:25.000 a while to figure out how I was like, I 487 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:26.759 took me. It took me a while to figure out 488 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:29.920 how they're kind of forcing you to either bank points 489 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:32.680 to climb up the ladder in value of the upgrade, 490 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:36.319 the blaster being the most valuable in there in in 491 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:36.920 that progression. 492 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:38.839 We'll talk about that later in a different category here, 493 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:43.119 but in terms of just like Dewey, I mean, looks sectory, 494 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:44.480 it doesn't really get me. 495 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:46.880 I haven't played keeper, but like the heart of the 496 00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:49.200 categories between sectory or megabonk. 497 00:22:49.079 --> 00:22:51.480 Yeah, I agree, I think, and I think secretory it's 498 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:53.359 great to have Donkey Kong on there is number three. 499 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:58.279 But yeah, so do we all agree on the top two. 500 00:22:58.799 --> 00:22:59.960 I think we have the top five we got. 501 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:08.319 Oh god, oh god, Donkey Kung Bananza gets cut with. 502 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:13.240 Respect Judge, that's insane. I'm gonna mute you. He has 503 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:14.119 that power to shit. 504 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:16.799 If only you had played the games that you would 505 00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:17.880 have a better argument. 506 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:20.759 Donkey Kong Keeper, Oh Keeper, I don't okay. 507 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:24.720 I will say though it's definitely between Mega Bunk and Sectory. 508 00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:27.519 I don't think Keeper would would hang between those. I 509 00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:29.960 would say Sectory is the number one, Mega Bunk is two. 510 00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:33.839 I haven't played like megabonk is. The thing is, like MEGABONK, 511 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:36.000 you can almost like kind of zone out and just 512 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:37.799 kind of walk around to kind of like auto shoots 513 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:41.359 like Vampire Survivors. Sectory. It is so dewy, and your 514 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:44.359 brain is also like has to be extremely locked in 515 00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:47.440 on what's happening at all times you are doing and deciding, 516 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:48.039 And like. 517 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:50.160 I disagree that you can just zone out during MEGABONK 518 00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:52.359 if you truly want to do well. However, I agree 519 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:55.880 with your point that Sectory definitely requires way way less earlier. 520 00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:57.880 It's like that flow state. There's also a lot of. 521 00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:00.720 Menus in Megabunk where you have to be like, oh right, 522 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:03.279 this one is a double upgrade, so it's better to 523 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:05.319 do early on because I want to get more points 524 00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:06.880 early on the upgrade faster. 525 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:07.400 This is all. 526 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:11.599 Sectory has the upgrade tier list. It's but it's not 527 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:13.519 while it's pause. You're still like in the ship. While 528 00:24:13.519 --> 00:24:14.960 it's while you're kind of making the choice. 529 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:17.519 Yeah, it's got to be Sectory, right, h Sectory? 530 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:20.279 All right, the most dewy game of twenty twenty five 531 00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:24.160 is Sectory. Put us to Dan for telling us all 532 00:24:24.200 --> 00:24:25.759 to play it like a week or two ago. I 533 00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:28.440 think I think it was I think it was gmart people, 534 00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:30.240 so like you kind of know what you're getting into 535 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:33.680 wars and Housemark the end like some Vampire Survivors. 536 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:36.000 I mean, it's got a lot shooter. 537 00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:39.400 The gathering experience experience like Glints whatever they call the 538 00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:40.079 next Glimmer. 539 00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:42.240 Yeah, it is the game that once this is all done, 540 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:43.680 you guys going to Mark like that is the game 541 00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:45.839 I can't wait to get back to. Yeah. I love 542 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.359 that game. All right, So that is well, I guess 543 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:53.000 all right, I'm sorry. Next category is most thinky game. 544 00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:55.400 That he's going to announce the winner. That's what I was. Oh, 545 00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:59.839 I already did denounce it. I hit my hammer. Remember 546 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:02.440 you're your honor Yes, I apologize, like you. 547 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:06.079 Wait, can you honorably? Can you hold the like the 548 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:09.319 what is the thing you hit? You hold that and 549 00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:10.680 then hit that in the air as long as it's 550 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:11.119 on the table. 551 00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:14.880 Yeah, like honorably. It's not getting a lot of cow 552 00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:17.039 and I'm not getting a lot of ground. You know. 553 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:23.119 That's good. Oh, that was that's why I needed. That's 554 00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:25.279 the good stuff. If it peaked that, it's fine. I'll 555 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:25.920 be I'll be light. 556 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:30.640 Next category is most thinky game of twenty twenty five. 557 00:25:31.400 --> 00:25:34.839 No, these are blueprints Monster Train. 558 00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:38.200 Two, Expedition thirty three, Bionic Bay. 559 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:43.720 Is this seat taken seance of Blake manor Lego Voyagers 560 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:46.799 the Altars? I would like to offer up. I do 561 00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:47.839 like this game a lot. 562 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:51.160 What thing? What he's going to offer up? One of 563 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:54.279 your picks? Just a little politician, I'm offering one of mine. 564 00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:56.680 I like crossing the Aisle. 565 00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:59.480 I like that one of yours. 566 00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:04.480 I put it in here. I think I played it first. 567 00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:08.160 One that wasn't his nomination Bigger person, this is my game, 568 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:12.160 Mary put In. I want to offer up someone else's passion. 569 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:15.279 I just want to say someone who loves this game. 570 00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:19.200 I think it's almost more dewy than it is. Thinky. 571 00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:22.359 I mean there are puzzles, but like it's a lot 572 00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:25.119 of platforming. It's it is a platforming heavy game. What 573 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:26.440 the am I blanking on Biome? 574 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:29.000 It's the one where it's all reminds me of Limbo. 575 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:32.599 It's like a silhouette based game and you have to 576 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:34.519 like avoid machines and if you make a mistake, you 577 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:37.799 get like killed, you die a log probably learn but 578 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:39.920 it is completely puzzle based. Will be like how do 579 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:42.960 I get past these lasers? I guess I'll die six times. 580 00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:48.119 To your point, I think there's probably more puzzley game. 581 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:49.079 Don't finish that. 582 00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:53.920 I'm here, but I think, like, I don't think it's 583 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:56.039 going to be a top three, but I do think 584 00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:01.359 it is a it was worthy of being nominated, So 585 00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:02.000 it's gone. 586 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:03.920 I don't think anyone's gonna fight for it, and I 587 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:06.000 think I know that, and it's one of mine. So 588 00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:08.839 I'm fining seeing I can. 589 00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:12.720 I'll I will offer up a game I suggested, say 590 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:14.519 once a blake manor I think there's some cool stuff 591 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:14.759 going on. 592 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:16.839 I have not finished this. People recommend it. 593 00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:18.519 It's it's sort of in like the return of the 594 00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:23.279 Oberdin style vein of puzzle game, like eighteen sixties Ireland 595 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:29.319 Castle Murder Mystery. However, there's large swaths of that from 596 00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.559 my like five hours I've played where you're not really 597 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:36.720 doing any critical You're you've kind of stopped thinking a lot, 598 00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:38.680 and you're just trying to find what the next thing 599 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:41.480 you're supposed to do is, which again, if it's it's 600 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:43.079 a game where you're supposed to be exploring this castle, 601 00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:44.640 I think it works in that context. But within the 602 00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:46.599 context of this category, I think I would say we 603 00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:47.079 can cut it. 604 00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:51.160 I'm gonna toss out, is this ce take in total 605 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:51.880 puzzle game? 606 00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:55.319 I didn't think it was that hard. It's not how 607 00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:57.160 hard it is though, I mean to me that is 608 00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:59.599 it's a lodge. It's purely a logic game, so like 609 00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:02.119 I would not cut that before, like, for instance, something 610 00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:05.880 like Expedition thirty three, I think is the Seed Taken 611 00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:09.000 is a much thinkier game than Expedition thirty three. I mean, 612 00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:11.359 sure you have there the picto system in the loss. 613 00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:12.400 We should cut both of. 614 00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:16.640 Them, yeah, because I don't think they're exemplary of this category. 615 00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:18.640 Clear Obsciar is gonna come up throughout the entire night 616 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:20.680 in many categories. But I also think there's a large 617 00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:22.519 stretches of that game where like you can get away 618 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.319 with having the same kind of for like, yeah, thirty minutes. 619 00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:27.799 I didn't think about it much at all. 620 00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:30.599 I think they're in the same category of like they're 621 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:31.720 not gonna make it. 622 00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:34.559 So yeah, like before we cut that, I was gonna 623 00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:36.079 throw out Lego Voyagers because I think I was the 624 00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.960 one who added that that is a thinky puzzle game, 625 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:40.559 but I feel like more of it is based around 626 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:44.759 puzzle platforming and working together cooperatively. So I think that 627 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:46.240 one and I'm the only who played it, so I 628 00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:48.000 think that's the one pretty safe to cut. 629 00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:49.880 That's very big, your honor. 630 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.000 That's a very big taken kind of like puzzle game 631 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:54.599 meets cozy game in a really nice way. I think 632 00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:58.240 it's a fun game, but like I also, yeah, I 633 00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:01.079 don't know that that. I would also say we could 634 00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:03.720 cut is the seat taken? And I was just gonna 635 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:04.000 cut them. 636 00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:09.920 Because I don't think that they're the most exemplary if 637 00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:11.160 we know they're not going to make it, Like we 638 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:12.359 know they're not going to make it, I'd like to 639 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:13.559 hear arguments for the Altars. 640 00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:16.119 Was I the only one who played the Altars? The 641 00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:18.400 Altars was too thinky for me. I fell off. It's 642 00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:21.200 very thinky. I feel like it's Mike's kind of game, 643 00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:24.039 like Laurin lays her Eyes, which I have definitely just 644 00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:27.039 sayed kind of thinky because Alters is very resource management 645 00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:29.400 heavy and you've got a time crunch and that. 646 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:31.359 Is too stressful for me. But I had to think 647 00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:33.519 a lot too much, not the thinking I like doing. 648 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:35.759 So I stopped a good game. But that's fine. 649 00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:37.599 I think I think we can cut that. We have 650 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:40.240 our top three. We've got our top three. They are blueprints, 651 00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:42.279 Monster Train and Eh. 652 00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:44.559 I think these are a strong throw. We haven't really 653 00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:46.839 mentioned Monster Train two, but it is a it's a 654 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:50.240 really great just kind of a card battler. It's a 655 00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:53.000 it's a rogue light in the ban of a slave 656 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:54.640 the Spire. If you haven't played it, it's just like 657 00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:57.880 multi tiered train. I don't need to go into the 658 00:29:57.880 --> 00:29:59.559 whole extlanation of the game. But basically it's a lot 659 00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:00.240 of thinking. 660 00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.160 Theory, crafting some really cool synergies between cards, and like 661 00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:05.240 deciding what to throw out, what to keep, where to 662 00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:08.440 position them, how you can exploit it. Yeah, it's a 663 00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:13.839 fucking incredible game. High up my list, it's Thinky. I 664 00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:20.920 will say, there's sometimes you can get to a point 665 00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:23.640 where you've just set up your factions so well that 666 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:25.240 you need to stop, but I guess you still had 667 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:28.079 to think pretty critically about the mechanics to get there. 668 00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:32.000 So I'd say if it wasn't for Blueprints, that would 669 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.000 be my front runner here. Blueprints, though, is like. 670 00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:38.039 Blueprints is like one of the things I. 671 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.720 Think Blueprint is really thinky and I absolutely love that game, 672 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:44.079 and I'll be bringing up every chance I can. I 673 00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:49.559 think there are stretches though, early on, where there's some 674 00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.279 parts in that game where it's absolutely genius and like 675 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.519 completely recontextualizing certain kinds of rooms and resources and like 676 00:30:57.839 --> 00:30:59.599 we can like it's to the point where we can 677 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:01.640 kind of like spoilery right now, I'm not going to 678 00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:03.920 spoil Blueprints, but I'm saying, like there's there's parts where 679 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.960 you realize it's not just the mansion that you're rebuilding, 680 00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:08.759 and there's a lot more going on in this. 681 00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:12.559 There's layers upon layers upon layers of even like the thinking. 682 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:14.640 There's the initial thing where it's like, oh, just get 683 00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:16.960 to this room, and there's enough thinking involved for that. 684 00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:18.799 But then it's like, if you want to go beyond 685 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:20.759 that and beyond credits and stuff like that, there's just 686 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:22.759 the amount of you have to be like reading books 687 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:24.880 about the lore of a kingdom and stuff like that. 688 00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:29.440 Yes, and the water and the steam systems and the 689 00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:30.559 art on the walls. 690 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.319 Everything is also a puzzle. 691 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.519 And I think that in itself shows the layers of 692 00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:39.599 thoughtfulness in every space. There are rooms that have puzzles 693 00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:42.680 in it that you don't know about until another twenty 694 00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:44.640 hours in, and that is very special. 695 00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:47.119 Yeah. I'm gonna throw something out there though. 696 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:50.359 Mary, when we were playing Ooh, you had a moment 697 00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.079 and you had said, I hate it when a puzzle, 698 00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:55.119 when you know the answer to a puzzle game or 699 00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.240 to a puzzle and you can't actually do it. 700 00:31:57.559 --> 00:31:58.119 And that's my. 701 00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:02.240 Core issue with Blueprints is I you know the solution 702 00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.599 to a puzzle, but you are so reliant. I mean, 703 00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:07.079 you can manipulate it at some point, but that RNG 704 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:10.559 is such a progress blocker, and I know you get 705 00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:12.640 to a point where, like there are so many puzzles 706 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:14.640 happening at once that you can pursue different ones. But 707 00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:18.000 I would say early on, in particular, I found the 708 00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:21.000 puzzling very unsatisfying because of that. 709 00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:22.839 I'm not saying it shouldn't be the. 710 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:25.759 Pick, because I think it is, but but for me 711 00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:30.759 that I think the rogue Light stuff kind of not. 712 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:35.880 It feels the it gets in the way of the puzzling, 713 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.160 the thinkiness. In my opinion, yeah, because I feel like 714 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:41.720 the most I think I liked Blueprints the most in 715 00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:44.720 like the mid game, when the puzzle aspects and the 716 00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:47.160 rogue Light aspects were matching up in the most compelling way. 717 00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:50.200 Early on, it's like, I want this to be more 718 00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.279 of a rogue Light and I was just trying to 719 00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:53.839 figure out what the hell all these things were foreign 720 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:55.799 to Mary's points, Like, I think the game is absolutely 721 00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:58.799 brilliant in recontextualizing so much to the point where you 722 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.039 didn't even realize things were puzzles, like I'll have the 723 00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:05.279 Witness from twenty seventeen or whatever it was. Later in Blueprints, 724 00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:09.759 I agree when it became way more of a puzzle, 725 00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:11.759 I feel like the rouge light elements were kind of getting. 726 00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:13.960 In the way. Well, okay, I think we're onto some 727 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.079 interesting stuff here because I think everything you're saying is 728 00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:18.440 right about Blueprints. One we haven't really talked about much 729 00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:20.799 is ooh, and that was the one Jake has played. 730 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:22.839 And just you know, we had like an hour and 731 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:24.880 a half or so this afternoon we half of it. 732 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:26.319 It's like, oh, we could actually kind of check this out. 733 00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:28.079 I watched Mary play for a while. Yeah, and it's 734 00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.200 like it seems like a very pure think ye game. 735 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.559 I think it's pure think Ye. And I know you 736 00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:34.240 have a lot to say about it. But because it's 737 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:35.839 so fresh in my head because I played it to 738 00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:39.000 day for about two hours since Bias every sincy. 739 00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:39.640 Bias, I'm ready to go. 740 00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:42.440 This game is so interesting. 741 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.279 Because I would come across spaces that I couldn't get 742 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.640 past and I was like, Oh, this must be a Metroidvania. 743 00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:50.480 We're all get a skill later, and you said maybe. 744 00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:54.799 And I kept playing the game and I learned how 745 00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:58.079 to do things. My character didn't get any stronger or better, 746 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:01.400 and I realized that I was actually able to solve 747 00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:02.240 puzzles from. 748 00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:04.240 The very beginning of the game. I just didn't know 749 00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:12.519 how it is the second bomb. But yes, other than that. 750 00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:12.400 You can be in a space maybe like let's say 751 00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.119 there's like a gap and you're like, you know, there's 752 00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:15.599 like spikes, and you're like, oh, I guess I can't 753 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:16.239 get past here. 754 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.400 I'll come back. You could. You can do it. That's 755 00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:20.159 how smart this is. 756 00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.320 I think that's the thing for me that I love 757 00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.639 about it is pretty much every new level you get to, 758 00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:28.320 there's two paths to take, and one path is seems 759 00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:30.440 impossible to solve you like, I don't know, and then 760 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:32.559 you take the other path and it slowly teaches you 761 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.440 those mechanics through simpler puzzles, so you can go back. 762 00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.119 So in theory, except for that second bomb you get, 763 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.920 you can like mainline that game just by doing those puzzles. 764 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:43.599 I think it's gonna be very interesting because, like I 765 00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:45.639 probably watched you play about a half hour of it today, 766 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:47.840 and just in that half hour, you know, there were 767 00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:49.519 some like aha moments we had about oh, you can 768 00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:51.400 do this. I want to play this game now, And 769 00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.760 now that I know even just a couple of these mechanics. Now, 770 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:56.280 just the knowledge is gonna make my play through a 771 00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:58.840 little different thing. Though, the highs of blue Prints I 772 00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.199 thought were s where do you feel like a genius? 773 00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:06.559 Well, like, well, i'd say always consistently, like for three hours, 774 00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:08.599 it is just like bang bang, yep, yep, I'm a genius. 775 00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:09.280 I'm getting through this. 776 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:11.840 But like, man, when you push through a puzzle in 777 00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:15.000 Blueprints and just the whole manner opens up to you 778 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.320 and you're like, oh my god, yeah yeah, if I 779 00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:19.679 can like get these two rooms next to each other, 780 00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.159 and if I'm able to get the garden over here 781 00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:24.360 and I have this, then I can do this. 782 00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:29.320 And it's like those moments really make me yeah again, 783 00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:33.880 most talking most thankye, not best thinkye. So you're right, 784 00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:36.119 and I think that's why something like Blueprints will probably 785 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:37.599 go higher on like a top ten of the year. 786 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:40.679 But is it more thinky than you. 787 00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:42.880 I would say, ooh, though I will point out Mary, 788 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:44.800 there's a few times when you're like, I don't feel 789 00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:46.599 like this is how I'm supposed to solve this puzzle, 790 00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:48.639 Like you were kind of like inching across that poison 791 00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:53.760 lava pit like that was the only time other than that, yeah, 792 00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:58.800 I just I I work, Yeah, how about this, because ooh, 793 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.400 I feel like the type of is like, all right, 794 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:03.159 how am I going to use the abilities at my 795 00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:05.239 disposal to get across this thing or past this thing? 796 00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:09.320 Whereas blueprints it's most thinky the different types of the 797 00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:10.559 variety of thinking you have. 798 00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:13.159 To there's little residuval puzzles where there's like the black 799 00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.119 box is a lie, the white is truth, and then 800 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:15.599 the other one. 801 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:18.239 There's always one lie. Math puzzles. There's the math puzzles 802 00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:20.480 that the generators turn on the power, and then there's 803 00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.440 like but like again, one of my favorite moments in 804 00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:24.920 every video any video game I've ever played, as much 805 00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:28.360 up its ass as the Witness, is when you realize 806 00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:31.000 that there are actually puzzles in the world and you 807 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.559 have not been seen. I never realized that game. Did 808 00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:34.239 not realize that. 809 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.360 Like, even when you beat the game, it's just these 810 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.000 puzzle stack stack, and stacking the blueprints is like, I'm 811 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:42.480 thinking about this individual puzzle, and then you're thinking about 812 00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.199 how to manage resources, and then you're kind of mapping 813 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:46.960 out the mansion in your head and making sure you 814 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:49.320 can get back to a certain room with the footsteps 815 00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.159 you have left footsteps, slash energy, whatever you want to 816 00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:51.360 call it. 817 00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:51.679 Thank you. 818 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:56.480 The different layers of on which you have to think 819 00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:58.800 about Blueprints. I don't think I've seen that in a 820 00:36:58.840 --> 00:36:59.960 game before before. 821 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:03.920 Aside from the witness lower lying the laser eyes, I 822 00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:05.599 haven't played the yet. I need to best game of 823 00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:07.440 the last ten years, and Outer wilds Outer Wild is 824 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:09.039 up there with Blueprints in terms of games like you 825 00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:11.000 have to think about it on so many different levels 826 00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.599 that it's the fact that they kind of scale. 827 00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.440 The scale of thinky is is on another level with Blueprints. 828 00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:19.719 I was really impressed by you. I'm really glad I 829 00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.199 played it. I hope people listening to us were like, 830 00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.599 I've never even heard that game. This is a great 831 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:26.199 puzzle game and you should play it. 832 00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:29.320 And it's super short. Blue Prilower is. 833 00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.719 The most challenging game of the year, that feels the 834 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:35.199 most rewarding. It challenged me math, It challenged me spatially. 835 00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:39.760 It challenged me with linguistic puzzles. There are there are 836 00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:43.239 like hundreds of different types of puzzles in Blueprints, and 837 00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.639 I think it is the most thinky game of the year. 838 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:46.199 I just don't. 839 00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:48.639 They could have cut the math, but you know, oh man, 840 00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:51.519 after like fifty times of doing that, I'm like, come on, 841 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:52.960 another fucking symbol. 842 00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:55.519 Yeah, it does get harder each time. And what's really 843 00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:58.239 interesting is you probably got this. But there's one thing 844 00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.280 that you can unlock that will make the math puzzles 845 00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:04.000 really easy if you unlock it. 846 00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.599 Yes, I got something that made the logic puzzles easy, 847 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.760 Like you choose right, so maybe you oh, because I 848 00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:11.679 was pretty good to the math and the logic ones, 849 00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:13.800 like we're always just kind of like it would stop 850 00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:14.360 my tracks. 851 00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:16.920 You can get two keys so that your box you 852 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:20.519 would get a second attempt wrong, which is really interesting. 853 00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.760 So they had ways to make it easier, but those 854 00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:25.559 math puzzles were crazy to put in there. 855 00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:27.320 I think unless. 856 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:28.760 Anyone's like, no, I got something to say about it, 857 00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:30.079 I think you probably all agreed. 858 00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:33.039 Blue Princes the right one, most thinking and like one 859 00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.559 of the best thinking games of all time. God, it's 860 00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:37.320 crazy crazy. 861 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:39.599 Good low line laser eyes, but you know, not much 862 00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:41.639 his We didn't do the this year. 863 00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:43.800 The oh sorry good and yeah, the most. 864 00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.960 Thinky game of twenty twenty five is Sorry, Fire Escapes 865 00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:49.760 most thinking game of twenty twenty five is Blueprints. 866 00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.360 Yes, all right, very dainty. 867 00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:54.639 I don't want to blow out people's ears drums. I 868 00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:56.760 think I'm already gonna do it, though if Dan has 869 00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:57.920 no sure? 870 00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:00.639 Am I yelling Dan down a little? 871 00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:03.480 Every time we try and cut Donkey Kong Bonanza. 872 00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:10.679 He almost folks, what don't sound like that? Judge, Judge, 873 00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:15.480 you're wrong. I would not tell the judge he's wrong. 874 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.639 He's delightful. He said you're wrong. 875 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:23.880 You said you didn't say he was wrong. 876 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:28.360 You said, I think that's crazy. It's not wrong crazy. Okay, 877 00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:30.440 Look he had like a party for that. I'm mad. 878 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:37.920 Next category is most talking game of the year. Are Dispatch, 879 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:45.400 Hades two, Kingdom Calm, Deliverance to Death, Stranding to Split Fiction, Huma, 880 00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:51.719 horse Racing. I'm not saying U Trails in the Sky 881 00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:54.880 first Chapter, Meddle of your Solid Delta, Snake Eater. 882 00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:59.840 Yeah, not to not to throw things off a little, 883 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:04.159 but I was thinking. The game I've I've talked the 884 00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:06.639 most in is Our Creators. That is a very talky game. 885 00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:07.320 If you think. 886 00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:11.119 About I don't want to throw you talking is. 887 00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:16.760 Yeah, you know, he's a letter of the law kind 888 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:18.880 of guy. He's doing his job. He's just keeping everything fair. 889 00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:19.519 Judge. 890 00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:28.199 I think you're doing a great job job. Nominees. We've 891 00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:29.119 done just did that. 892 00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:33.639 Let's do him again for me? Okay, I uh, I 893 00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:36.800 don't like the idea of like Meddle Year because yes, 894 00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:38.880 it's talkies. Is one of the talkies series of all time. 895 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:40.800 But this is just three It is a like word 896 00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:41.559 for word. 897 00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:44.519 Remake, you know, because you weren't like, I'm going to 898 00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:46.880 offer up one eye at it here. 899 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:49.199 I mean I think I did add you know, but 900 00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:51.559 you didn't like make fanfare about it. I'm going to 901 00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.400 be a hero. There you go, and I would like 902 00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:55.559 to cut Meddle your solid delta same thank you. Yes, 903 00:40:55.719 --> 00:41:00.480 yes haities two. You can skip all that ship and 904 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:03.880 just play the game. Yeah that's what I did. That's 905 00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:05.360 the way to go with that game. It is a 906 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.519 yeah yeah, yeah. It was not a talkie game to me. 907 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:14.119 Not to me, I was pressing a lot about Uma Matsume. 908 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.320 I don't I haven't played this. I know it's the 909 00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:19.880 horse racing game, but how talky is that I think 910 00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:20.199 it is? 911 00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:22.679 I don't think it's Uh, it was not a game 912 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.679 for me. So very clearly not the best talkie game. 913 00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:28.840 What I want to express is the amount of communication, 914 00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:32.280 because this is a game about understanding the nuances of 915 00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:34.559 the horse that you are trying to up level and 916 00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:38.679 grow takes an outrageous amount of dialogue. You are listening 917 00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:42.559 to these girls yap on and on and on about 918 00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:43.280 what they need. 919 00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:45.840 To make the horse race faster and faster faster. 920 00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.360 They will not be quiet. It is a very talky 921 00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.519 talkie game. But I don't I don't love this game 922 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:53.880 so like, I'm not going to fight for it. I 923 00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:56.599 just want to let you guys know it is a 924 00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:59.280 tok city of these horse horse girls. 925 00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:01.400 They talk a lot. Oh god did they talk? 926 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:05.159 Ques just just for for people, it is the best 927 00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:09.400 talkie game or the it is the most, but it means. 928 00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:11.159 Does it do we want it to be a good 929 00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:13.119 like game people like cors. I don't think it's like 930 00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:14.559 an honor to win this. I think it's just a 931 00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:16.800 statement effect. It can't be an honor, but not necessarily. 932 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:18.760 But I would say if it's like a talkie game, 933 00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:22.039 but that talking is engaging and exciting, it can be. 934 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:23.679 It can be preys good or bad. 935 00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:26.639 I would I would cut Death Straining two from this, 936 00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:30.480 I do. It's like the first game was very very talky. 937 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:33.039 The second game it's not long before you're playing like 938 00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:34.440 a triple A open world game. 939 00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:36.000 It's like right away. Yeah. 940 00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.280 And I also say there's long stretches that game where 941 00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:41.119 it's very solitary and you don't talk, you don't see anybody. 942 00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:43.119 There's more time the best moments in that game, or 943 00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:45.880 when it's long stretches when Kojima is kind of just like. 944 00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:47.679 Well, I don't know, I don't know. 945 00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:49.599 I mean in the same vein, then I would say 946 00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.039 Kingdom Come Deliverance too, probably shouldn't be on here. There's 947 00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.599 like a lot of cut scenes that front loads that story. 948 00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:56.239 But I feel like once you get into it, once 949 00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:59.840 you're exploring like it is and you are, you're fighting 950 00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:01.239 that world like you mentioned to be. 951 00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:02.119 You're fighting that world. 952 00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:05.800 Right when it kind of starts, I'm I know where 953 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.119 I should be going because the places I'm not supposed 954 00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:09.119 to be I get my ass kicked. 955 00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:10.199 And that's very dewey to me. 956 00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:12.639 And like to Beyonca's point, like you can kind of 957 00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:14.960 pick a like a vocation almost in that game, Like 958 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:16.880 she's saying she just spends all her time making potions 959 00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:20.239 like it's pretty complex. It is like interactive. I mean, 960 00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:22.519 you're still hitting, but it is I think I think 961 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:27.320 it goes. Yeah. Did anyone play Dispatch? Absolutely little bit? 962 00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:27.679 I can. 963 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:31.440 I played Dispatch played by the first episode. That game 964 00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:34.320 should stay because it is it is just talking. It 965 00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:37.360 is even more talking, which is Telltale games, like it is. 966 00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:39.559 Let me get this out now because I don't want 967 00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:40.880 to be talking about this the rest of the night. 968 00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:43.719 There's such a cool fucking kernel of a game in 969 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.719 this game, and that you are literally just deciding where 970 00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:49.519 to dispatch, whether it be superheroes or like speck op 971 00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.840 squads across a city. Like that's in itself an amazing 972 00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:55.079 strategy game idea. And I feel like the fact that 973 00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:58.079 it's I came to it hoping there will be more 974 00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.199 of that, probably foolishly, because it's the X, It's the 975 00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:02.920 wolf among us devs, and that's those are like Telltale 976 00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:04.599 games are the talkiest things ever. I agree that you 977 00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.320 should stay because it's I was waiting through a lot 978 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:08.960 of cut scenes and that's my fault for not knowing 979 00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:09.400 what it was. 980 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:13.119 But it's Takias. Shit, what about splip Fiction. They talked 981 00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:15.039 way too fucking much in that game. But you're doing 982 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:18.559 stuff while there are some like cut scenes of them 983 00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:19.000 just like. 984 00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:23.000 Dude, even when your pigs flying around, they're fucking talking 985 00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:23.639 to each other the. 986 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:26.679 Whole time, the bad clips. And you know, I'm from 987 00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:29.440 the city and I don't know anything about pigs, and 988 00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:32.679 it's just like, shut up, my cigarettes. If I'm saying 989 00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:35.159 shut up in a game a lot, it's gotta be 990 00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:39.480 t They're not likable characters. It's like, yeah, okay, it's 991 00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:42.159 the most unwanted talk Tell me about Trails in the Sky. 992 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.239 Trails in the Sky is a I think it's like 993 00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:50.920 a sixty eighty hour JRPG and there is just yeap, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 994 00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:51.960 I think it's a good game. 995 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:56.719 However, you sold me there is you know, it does 996 00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:59.199 that sin where like the first five hours are just 997 00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:01.840 like cut scene, you walk ten steps, cut scene you 998 00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:02.559 walk into there. 999 00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:04.559 Do you like it? Yes? I like it? 1000 00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:08.559 Okay, then I'm gonna I'm gonna throw out use because 1001 00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:12.320 I didn't like it. Like, I know, we're talking about 1002 00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:14.639 the most talkie, but at this point these are all talkie. 1003 00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.639 Shouldn't we get rid of ones that were like I 1004 00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:17.880 didn't want to read all of this. 1005 00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:20.239 Yeah, and to me, that's what that's what I was 1006 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:21.840 trying to say. I guess I worded it poorly. 1007 00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:24.719 With split fiction, at least there is some good implementation 1008 00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:27.880 of action and like there's some like the mechanics change 1009 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.639 pretty RC yeah, yeah, doing different compared to Dispatch, which 1010 00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.519 you're literally just like it's you're interacting with other characters 1011 00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:36.880 and it's it's it's almost like being on the bridge 1012 00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:38.880 of the Normandy and that's the whole game. Oh god, 1013 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:41.840 I think there are oh you Dan dispatches like anathematic. 1014 00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:44.000 They they told me I should play it for the 1015 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:45.800 Giant Bomb game. Of their discussions, it's like I'm going 1016 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:47.719 to do everyone a favor and not because I would 1017 00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:51.119 be insufferable. Yeah yeah, the game made to make me 1018 00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:54.360 oh yeah no. But like superheroes and talking and tell 1019 00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:57.400 Tale great, all of my least favorite things in one game, Claire. 1020 00:45:57.440 --> 00:45:59.639 I think some of the writings like actually really solid writing. 1021 00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.000 I don't think it's what it's trying to do. I 1022 00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:05.079 think it's a good game. It's it's never anything I 1023 00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:08.159 would even try to get past people on this podcast, 1024 00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:10.360 and that's why I didn't recommend you play it when 1025 00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:10.840 I played it. 1026 00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:15.440 But it's the talk should we just not have? 1027 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:17.920 I mean, I guess you've played Dispatch because I'm the 1028 00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:21.639 only one the first episode that's it. It should stay 1029 00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:25.079 then yes, yeah, I'm saying like because I didn't play 1030 00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:26.559 Uma or Trousing the Sky. 1031 00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:29.320 But I think for me, between Dispatch and split fiction. 1032 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:32.760 Describedume, I don't think we cut that either, because that 1033 00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:35.840 sounds and their. 1034 00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:38.440 Horse Girls no less as much as I don't like 1035 00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:40.960 the talking and split fiction, there is a lot of 1036 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:44.119 really good Dewey stuff. It's a Dowey It's like there 1037 00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:46.599 is stuff that gets my goat. It's like Disney Adults, 1038 00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:53.119 horse Girls. And I don't sorry you were saying notch 1039 00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:58.239 or great people. I love both of them. Yes, you 1040 00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.599 describe both of them. I say we cut split fiction 1041 00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:03.519 split fiction. I think, yeah, yes, that's what I was 1042 00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:10.440 trying to convey. Were you poorly boy? It sounds like 1043 00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.800 Dispatch of the Winner to me? I mean these definition 1044 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.000 I don't play any of these. I mean I haven't. 1045 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:20.119 Played anybody sides played all three of these. I Dispatch 1046 00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:23.639 and Trailer I haven't played. And you played I've played. 1047 00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:28.440 We're all pronouncing it differently to the weird horse girl. 1048 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:33.519 Oh yeah, I think for me it's got to be dispatcher. 1049 00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:36.800 What Mary's Do you even like race? Did they actually do? 1050 00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:38.480 Yeah? But do you do anything? Or do they just 1051 00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:44.079 race on? It's an auto? I honestly think might be 1052 00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:45.519 the just from what I hear about it. 1053 00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:50.280 Because at least run Fast. 1054 00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:53.280 Dispatch, you're actually sort of playing where you're like sending 1055 00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:54.920 people out and I love that part, and I'm like, 1056 00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:56.719 I want the game to be this, but that doesn't matter. 1057 00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:59.880 So like the only thing you do is read about 1058 00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:02.800 the horses and then you level them up on things 1059 00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:04.920 that they need, like maybe one of them is too shy, 1060 00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:06.480 and it's like, okay, I'm gonna work on your like, 1061 00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:08.960 you know, your self esteem. 1062 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:10.719 You need to be outgoing to win races. 1063 00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:12.239 Well, you need to have guts. 1064 00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:14.519 And then like there's other ones and you get carrots 1065 00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.360 and the you know, the carrots are a currency. The 1066 00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:23.039 carrots are their money. You get them to be stronger, 1067 00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:25.559 but they also need endurance. If you make them too strong, 1068 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:27.360 then maybe they like run out of the gate really fast, 1069 00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:27.920 but then they. 1070 00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:29.880 Don't win because they run out of stamina. 1071 00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:33.559 So's it's all about knowing all of the logistics of 1072 00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:35.039 the game and picking the right things. 1073 00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:36.039 Did I love it? 1074 00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:37.719 No? Did it Talk Forever? 1075 00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.960 Yes, that's fine by me if that's it, because like 1076 00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:45.079 Dispatch had these, Dispatch has stretches where you're actually sort 1077 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.039 of doing stuff and strategizing. Also, like I would watch 1078 00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:50.280 a three hour Netflix show of a single camera on 1079 00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:53.800 Dan while we explain games like this to him, it's. 1080 00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:58.039 Just we're doomed as an industry popular are we are? 1081 00:48:58.039 --> 00:48:58.760 We agreed? 1082 00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:03.679 Then, um Racing Ship is the Why is that? Is 1083 00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:07.119 that what it's called? No? 1084 00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:11.679 One's the weird Horse perfect game? Yeah? Okay? Is it? Well, 1085 00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:17.760 it's our winner, sure Game twenty twenty five, Mass Horse 1086 00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:23.880 Racing Ship. All right? Oh a favorite? All right? Next 1087 00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:29.440 up is Worst Title of the Year. The nominees are 1088 00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:34.559 Dreamy Syrup, bad Geez Death, Stranding, Two on the. 1089 00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:43.239 Beach, Tayotama, Kissed On My Deity, Tainted Grail, The Fall 1090 00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:43.880 of Avalon. 1091 00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.079 That's fucking cool, Okay, I'll get to. 1092 00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:53.360 It, Fantasy Life, I, The Girl who Steals Time, Puela 1093 00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:56.480 Maggie Modica, Magica, Maggia Egg. 1094 00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:01.199 Start Over, The colon, punctuation. 1095 00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.960 Important question is this what? What language is this game? 1096 00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.039 I assumed it was just weird magic bullshit. I assumed 1097 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:09.079 this was like not a natural language. 1098 00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:12.760 It's the first word looks Spanish like play yeah, does 1099 00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:17.440 anybody know? I think it's Jepanese, Twela, Maji, motoca, magica, 1100 00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:18.760 Maggi et cetera. 1101 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:23.440 Uh, Kirby and The Forgotten Land m Dash Nintendo's Switch 1102 00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:26.400 to edition, plus Star Crossed World. 1103 00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:32.519 The Hungry Lamb Colon, Traveling in the Late Ming Dynasty. 1104 00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:34.639 Dynamic Cord featuring. 1105 00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:39.400 Bracket reve Parfe, Bracket and Bracket Remaster Edition. 1106 00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:42.400 Is it wrong to try to pick up girls in 1107 00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.119 a dungeon? Full end of water and Light? 1108 00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:51.800 One of my favorite categories we do every year. There's 1109 00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:55.840 some real trash here. I have to say. While I'm 1110 00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:57.960 glad that you put them on because I like reading them, 1111 00:50:58.480 --> 00:50:59.599 I think bad cheese. 1112 00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.679 Isn't that bad? Actually? Geez? I'm very curious what kind 1113 00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:05.719 of game it is. I want to know about a 1114 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:10.159 break dreamy syrup, like, yeah, what what the fuck is 1115 00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:12.280 going on? Is that a person? It could be anything? Well. 1116 00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:14.840 I put Tainted Grail The Fall of Avalon because I 1117 00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:16.880 thought that was the most generic fantasy game ever. 1118 00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:18.880 It might seem to like it, but I could only 1119 00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:20.960 hear it in like Conan O'Brien's nerd voice. I can 1120 00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:25.199 Tainted Grail the Fall of avalon the nerdiest possible game. 1121 00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:27.800 Yeah, no, I mean I can keep it on here. 1122 00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.000 But Dreamy Syrup, I'm so curious what it is. Yeah, 1123 00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:32.280 it makes me want to know, Like, go check the game. 1124 00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:35.159 Out, Dreamy Syrup should go. It's a it's a decent name. 1125 00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:36.079 Is it a good game? 1126 00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:36.239 No? 1127 00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:40.159 I'll offer up my nomination earlier today, which is death 1128 00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:42.840 Straining two on the Beach. As a diehard fan of 1129 00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:44.440 that series, I like the first game a bit more, 1130 00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:45.280 but I still love to. 1131 00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:48.000 It. 1132 00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:50.239 I still just think death Stranding is a stupid name, 1133 00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.519 but like it kind of is Meddle your solid when 1134 00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:54.599 you think about it, I know, mid your Solid's got 1135 00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:59.480 some like fucking metal gear solid sounds cool. It doesn't 1136 00:51:59.519 --> 00:51:59.960 mean anything. 1137 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:03.039 I don't think death Stranding actually, like. 1138 00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:07.320 You saw a few things in a room, the Naked done. 1139 00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:11.760 Miss Cherry Cherry Rosevelt, fat chowing spaghetti. 1140 00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:18.599 I would say we could take dest Ranting two on 1141 00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:21.559 the Beach out at least it's like it evokes some 1142 00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:23.880 sort of mystery. 1143 00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:28.480 Hmm. Well, since we didn't even know, maybe this is 1144 00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:32.199 just another language. I think puela, magic, modoica, magicamagia, et ceterra. 1145 00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:35.719 It's kind of fun to say. Actually, yeah, maybe we 1146 00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:37.199 just take that off that it's a bit of a 1147 00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:39.199 tongue twister, and I just like, don't. 1148 00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:42.480 I don't want to have to announce that as the winner. Yeah, 1149 00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:46.559 let's kind it. Yeah, uh Mary, what's the old Fantasy Life? 1150 00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:48.559 Oh? I put that one? Why is there an eye 1151 00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:52.000 in there? Case? I don't know what's a d S 1152 00:52:52.079 --> 00:53:00.280 I wear game? It's I was doing my Roman bunch 1153 00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:06.960 of them? Is it so Fantasy one and Rock? Yeah? Yeah, 1154 00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:08.400 I don't know. I put it in there because I 1155 00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:09.719 was like, I don't know what the eye is all about? 1156 00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:12.559 Put it in there. I thought you put this on 1157 00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.719 something else, a cozy game or something. I put it 1158 00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:18.559 on just Jake both times? Okay, Yeah, what's up with that? 1159 00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:22.440 I I don't know Fantasy Life if I didn't finish it, 1160 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.320 So maybe if I finished it, they would have explained 1161 00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:26.599 the eye. Oh wait, actually, if we're doing that, put 1162 00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:27.719 Silent Hill f on here. 1163 00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:28.440 Nobody knows. 1164 00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.320 They didn't know if you if you google it or 1165 00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:33.119 talk to anybody, they cannot figure out what it's for. 1166 00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:36.000 I would no, I don't think Silent hillf should be 1167 00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:39.280 on here, but I think this because also the girl 1168 00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:40.199 who steals time? 1169 00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:45.880 What does that mean? That sounds cool? Time? You can't 1170 00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:48.920 can't fight City Hall, you can't travel in the Late 1171 00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:52.239 Ning Dynasty anymore. I would hope you can't try to 1172 00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:53.800 pick up a girl in a dungeon. Okay, we're just 1173 00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:57.360 talking like weird choices. As far as punctuation and capitalization stuff, 1174 00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.920 I think dynamic chord feature wherever you parpa whatever is 1175 00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:03.039 there's way more egregious stuff going on there than just 1176 00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:05.840 a lowercase I I agree. Yeah, get rid of fantasy life. 1177 00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:12.039 It's not that bad. God. 1178 00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:13.599 Yeah, now that you say it, tainted Gral the Fall 1179 00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:15.840 of Vavalin really is just generic, like you put you 1180 00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:18.679 put name a fantasy video game into chatchipt. 1181 00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:21.239 Like NCIS had an episode about a video game that 1182 00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:22.960 doesn't exist, and they just thought that sounded like a 1183 00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:23.760 video game. Yeah. 1184 00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:26.599 Yeah, I also think, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna go 1185 00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:27.880 after the Hungry Lamb. 1186 00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:31.199 That in itself not bad. Yes, they added too much, 1187 00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:35.320 but the Hungry Lamb is here. Yeah, yeah, I'm kind 1188 00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:35.719 of curious. 1189 00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:37.519 I want to know what the Hungry Lamb is doing 1190 00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:40.239 while traveling in the late Ming dynasty. Kind of like 1191 00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:42.800 this pacificity of the late Ming Dynasty right and evokes 1192 00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:46.280 an image. 1193 00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:48.360 I loves cut it. Hum. Yeah, I think we should 1194 00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:51.440 now keep Kirby because I do think Jake, you were 1195 00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:54.000 mentioning too like every like Nintendo Switch to itition now 1196 00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:55.920 has it plastered on the title. This is just an 1197 00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:59.760 extremely egregious example of Nintendo being very specific with their 1198 00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:04.199 type of stuff. Well yeah, like, also, I don't if 1199 00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:06.679 a game title is hard to parse, what the fuck 1200 00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:09.199 I'm about to buy? I think that makes it terrible. 1201 00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:12.159 Like, Okay, if it was just Kirby in the Forgotten 1202 00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:14.440 Land Nintendo Switch to Edition, I get it. But the 1203 00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:17.280 fact that Starcross World is listed after the Nintendo Switch 1204 00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:19.039 two Edition, I'm like, wait a minute, is this not a. 1205 00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:21.559 Switch to Edition? Like what is what? And I get 1206 00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:24.000 that it's a DLC. It's just like, yeah, if you 1207 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.000 weren't like following the game and it says that. 1208 00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.519 Tennis Switch to Edition and then be like DLC included 1209 00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:33.400 or something I don't like. That's that's almost like the 1210 00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:36.960 Grand Theft Auto Trilogy with the M dash in the title. 1211 00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:39.599 That's just a mistake to do that. I don't like it. 1212 00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:42.119 I don't like this. These are all losers. 1213 00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:45.119 But I will say, like, is it wrong to try 1214 00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:47.400 and pick up girls in a dungeon? You wouldn't know 1215 00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:50.559 that's a game? In a million years? Who names their 1216 00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:51.239 game as. 1217 00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:53.000 A question And I wrote this down so it's it's 1218 00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:56.119 colon full Land of water and light now full land. 1219 00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:58.519 There are three l's in a row there. That is 1220 00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:00.119 not a typo on my part. I look at that 1221 00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:05.960 several times. It's fall. The question mark colon also does 1222 00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:10.360 not right before his question mark colon? And why are 1223 00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:12.159 we picking up girls in a dungeon? I don't like 1224 00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.280 anything going on in this title. What about uh to 1225 00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:16.400 my Kiss? 1226 00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:22.039 Because that's so fucked up on my Deity? 1227 00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:29.119 I mean, yeah, I'm I'm lowing up my VP and 1228 00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.599 and I'm googling that game. I'm going into private mode 1229 00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:34.679 and I'm checking out kiss on my Deity. Do not 1230 00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:39.039 google the search kiss on my Deity. We're not five here. 1231 00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:40.679 Let's just say I'm all out loud again, Let's just 1232 00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:44.679 got field. Let's do different ones, like who said Tatoyama 1233 00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:48.960 last time? Okay, then I'll start with Okay, tot tay 1234 00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:51.360 you Tama, kiss on my deity. 1235 00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:56.119 Tainted Grail, the Fall of Avalon gets worse, I'm here God, 1236 00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:59.639 Kirby and the Forgotten Land and dashing Nintendo switch to 1237 00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:01.559 a plus Star Cross World. 1238 00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:03.360 Exhausting. 1239 00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:07.159 That's the worst one in one breath, That's that's the 1240 00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:11.639 winner in my opinion. Dynamic Card featuring Bracket reve Parfe 1241 00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:13.239 and Bracket Remaster edition. 1242 00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:16.199 Is it wrong to try to pick up girls in 1243 00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:19.840 a dungeon? Question Mark Colon, Flan of Water and Light. 1244 00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:22.960 I really really hate the construction of Kirby and the 1245 00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:26.760 Forgotten Land. It's exhausting to even read without saying out 1246 00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:28.760 loud at least is it wrong to try to pick 1247 00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:30.719 up girls in a dungeon? I like, I get the 1248 00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:35.079 the person's point of view, like sentence itself is like 1249 00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:37.719 I don't like what it's even like like. 1250 00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:40.079 Kirby's just a bunch of Nintendo bullshit? Is it wrong 1251 00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:41.639 to try to pick up girls in the dungeons? Like? 1252 00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:44.880 I super don't want to play that game? Yeah, I 1253 00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:46.480 think that's the worst type. You know it's a game 1254 00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:48.199 because you're on like Steam or the shirt. 1255 00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:53.760 Well, we got to cut some, We've got ta Yeah, okay, 1256 00:57:54.400 --> 00:58:03.519 that's a cool table prompt curiosity at least tainted. Grail 1257 00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:07.039 is really bad. Yeah, Like as soon as you said 1258 00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:08.800 the Conan thing, I'm like, yeah, it's something he would 1259 00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:10.920 make fun of Aaron for playing. 1260 00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:15.039 What do we cut here? These are all terrible. So again, 1261 00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:17.320 if you take out all the other crap, dynamic cord 1262 00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:22.440 not so bad. Right, it's the featuring reve Favor remaster. 1263 00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:26.719 You know what it says, remastered edition. That's probably just 1264 00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:30.599 a remake of a shorter title. So maybe we just 1265 00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:33.960 take that one out because remaster edition. I also know 1266 00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.960 the brasketing. We should add this to best remake remaster exactly. No. 1267 00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:41.199 Brackets also are often, like almost always a translation thing. 1268 00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:44.480 It's not for English speakers always a lot of these 1269 00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:47.400 are transl thanks down to three now, granted Grail the 1270 00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:49.920 fall of Apple avalon Kirby in the I'm not saying 1271 00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:50.440 it again. 1272 00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:59.960 Is it wrong? It's exhausting Grail. So I announced this, 1273 00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:02.800 I don't have to say to it. I think, do. 1274 00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:05.760 You know how like sometimes when we do I forgot 1275 00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:07.920 that came out this year. The one that wins is 1276 00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:12.199 the one we forgot to put on the nominee. 1277 00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:14.519 I think if someone can't get through it, that is 1278 00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:18.280 the worst type. I do think Kirby wins this. I think, yeah, 1279 00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:20.360 all right, the. 1280 00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:22.880 Worst title of the year is Kirby in the Forgotten 1281 00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:26.199 Land m Dash Nintendo Switch to Edition plus Star Cross World. 1282 00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:30.679 That's a bad title. I ain't saying all that. 1283 00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:35.079 All right, Okay, this is a new category that we're 1284 00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:38.639 going to like this best form of attack. We need 1285 00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:41.360 to discuss this, Yeah, do we want to tell people like? So, 1286 00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:45.360 we initially had best mechanic as a big category. 1287 00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:46.880 And then we actually broke it up into this and 1288 00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:49.760 the next category. We were describing different things here. 1289 00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:51.840 I think we had to be more specific because we 1290 00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:53.639 found that a lot of times we were saying something 1291 00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:56.480 was great mechanically, what we were actually talking about was 1292 00:59:56.519 --> 00:59:59.679 a very specific type of attack that we enjoyed doing. 1293 01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:02.079 And so we decided to split them and this is 1294 01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:06.079 the best form of attack. Specifically, best is like what 1295 01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:07.960 is the best way. 1296 01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:12.599 To It's like a satisfying damage, Yeah, satisfying offense. Nice 1297 01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.119 way to put it all right, let's go. Nominis are 1298 01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:18.960 Soap in Powerwatch Simulator two, Haiti's two mech. 1299 01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:22.800 Suit, the Yo Yo in Pipistrello, The Shield and Doom, 1300 01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:26.920 The Dark Ages, Ghost of Yote, Chain Assassinations, the Strike, 1301 01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:31.039 Attack in Sectory, Pizza Doo in Death Straating two. 1302 01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:35.719 And balls from the Back in What in ball Pit 1303 01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:39.320 Ball x Pit. Hmm. 1304 01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:44.800 I don't know if soap is truly like the craziest form. 1305 01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:46.480 Of attack you were taking offense on dirt. 1306 01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:50.400 Yes, I'm not saying it's not attack that would make 1307 01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:51.960 it not a nominee and stupid. 1308 01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:57.360 Yeah it's yeah. I don't know if it's gonna win here, 1309 01:00:57.400 --> 01:00:59.039 but it is like I was watching the way Bank 1310 01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:02.400 plays this game, and she like covers the entire object 1311 01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:05.400 in soap before she even turns on a powerwasher, and 1312 01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:07.960 it's like, oh man, that's it's like weakening a boss 1313 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.119 before you attack it. You know. It's it's cool. And 1314 01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:12.800 it did add that like there was soap in the original, 1315 01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:14.480 but it was like you had to buy it and 1316 01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:16.280 it was finite and stuff like this and this, Like 1317 01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:18.920 I like the soap better in Powerwash Simulator too. 1318 01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:22.760 I think an improvement of powerwashm one and that's cool 1319 01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:24.159 and definitely worthy of a NOOM. 1320 01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:25.239 I don't think it's gonna be the best. 1321 01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:28.079 I agree we can cut it, so we're cutting. Yeah. 1322 01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:33.119 So uh, I was gonna say ghosts of Yotae chain assassinations. 1323 01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:36.079 I think these are cool, but it's it's pretty much 1324 01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:37.360 the same one. 1325 01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:40.000 Yeah, I would say specifically for me, that's fair. 1326 01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:42.199 It doesn't get like way less cool each time, but 1327 01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:44.320 it is like I wish there was one other animation. 1328 01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:46.880 Maybe I'm happy every time I see it when it's like, oh, 1329 01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:48.639 those guys are close enough and I leveled it up 1330 01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:50.320 so it's like, yeah, I can do like three of them. 1331 01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:51.079 Like that's awful to me. 1332 01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:52.880 The thing, the ghost of Yota thing that sets apart, 1333 01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:54.880 I probably should have nominated this. 1334 01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:56.000 It's doesn't matter. 1335 01:01:56.039 --> 01:01:57.760 I like when the wolf is involved in the ota 1336 01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:00.320 because then the wolf is actually helping you assassinate. But 1337 01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:02.400 I else, I agree, there's cooler stuff here. 1338 01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:03.360 We can got it, okay. 1339 01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:08.440 Haiti's two mech suit specifically, that's that's almost less a 1340 01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:10.199 form of attack and more suite of attacks. 1341 01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:13.440 Well, I mean there's like weapons, so it's actually get 1342 01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:15.960 this in The last like weapon you unlock is the 1343 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:17.800 mechs Suit. Basically, so you're right, though it is a 1344 01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:22.280 sweet it's a punch, it's you know, the missiles and stuff. 1345 01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:27.840 But yeah, you're right, there's an assortment of attacks. Let's 1346 01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:29.440 keep that for now. The yo Yo. I think you 1347 01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:30.920 might have played the most pipistrello. 1348 01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:33.719 Let's discuss the yo Yoah wait, yes, So the reason 1349 01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:36.800 I like it is because it has like eight different functions. 1350 01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:40.000 This is a metroidvana where the yoyo improves over time. 1351 01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:41.360 It ends up being something that you. 1352 01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:44.199 Can dog walk across water, it becomes something that you 1353 01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:47.840 can spin around. There's like a bunch of different use 1354 01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:50.559 cases for this yoyo at the end. It makes it 1355 01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:53.440 an extremely powerful tool, and I just think it's a 1356 01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:57.199 really neat how they were able to expand on a 1357 01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:00.559 yo yo in so many ways. You can float, you 1358 01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:04.480 can fly, you can stab, you can do a surrounding attack. 1359 01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.000 You can do a lot with this yo Yo. By 1360 01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.400 the end of the game, I would put it with 1361 01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:10.199 the mech Suit. 1362 01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:12.440 As as you scale your. 1363 01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:16.039 Character build, this becomes like the ultimate mecha that everyone 1364 01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:18.599 would talk about, and it's it's just a yo yo 1365 01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:21.599 I think it's really neat how they imagined all of 1366 01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:23.719 these things that you could do with a toy that 1367 01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:25.280 we've all had for our whole lives. 1368 01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:26.800 But man, they use it as like such a cool 1369 01:03:26.840 --> 01:03:29.320 weapon in this game. I think that's worth keeping. I 1370 01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:31.920 agree that's cool. They get so much versatility out of 1371 01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:32.440 one item. 1372 01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:34.239 It's a very versatile weapon. 1373 01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:38.519 I'm going to be a hero again. You know, pizza 1374 01:03:38.559 --> 01:03:41.880 dough is all right, weizza do. Sorry, it's funny. Now 1375 01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:45.440 you don't need to say it. We'll cut it. I 1376 01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:48.800 had very thoughtful things to say. All right, continue tell 1377 01:03:48.840 --> 01:03:51.320 them what it is for anybody who there's a pizza 1378 01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:53.880 chef that you fight and as you bring stuff to him, 1379 01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:57.199 he will get into the pizza chef. Later he teaches 1380 01:03:57.239 --> 01:03:59.679 you pizza dough, which is like, you know, different time. 1381 01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:02.119 It's like it's like a psycho crusher, like a like 1382 01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:04.840 a spin attack thing or a roundhouse kick with pizza 1383 01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:08.159 dough and stuff. The thing is, it's funny. I think 1384 01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:10.440 it's funny that it's in there. It's very destranding. It's 1385 01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:12.800 not something that's like I think this category should be like, 1386 01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:15.639 oh this feels good to do. I like like It's 1387 01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:17.719 not like, oh I unlocked pizza dough now I'm playing 1388 01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:20.760 this game totally different. It's just it's a funny gimmick. Yeah. 1389 01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:23.159 So I think it's a ghiro. I think I I 1390 01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:27.960 cut it. Yes, it's a gimmicky. I think I can't. 1391 01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:30.519 I think it was me who put the Shield is Doom. 1392 01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:32.400 Somebody else can step in if it was them, but I. 1393 01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:35.840 Think it was. You were talking about Doom and uh, 1394 01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:36.760 yeah it was shield. 1395 01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:40.000 The shield is sick because obviously people it's defensive, but 1396 01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:42.440 you can also hurl it at enemies and kill them 1397 01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:44.519 in the perry fun. 1398 01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:47.239 It's fun to perry in Doom. I think that they 1399 01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:51.039 really can. I is it. 1400 01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:52.360 The No, I'm so sorry. I couldn't continue. I have 1401 01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:55.119 something else that I mean. I was gonna say, like, 1402 01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:58.800 I am like the fucking skull gun that you're crushing 1403 01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:02.559 a that's maybe the coolest gun in any shooter ever, 1404 01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:05.119 when you're putting skulls into a thing and it's grinding them, you. 1405 01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:08.280 Shooting out the awesome. I think Shield difficult too. 1406 01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:10.800 When I was reading Shield, I was thinking, like, man, 1407 01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:13.639 that that bone shark is so cool. 1408 01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:16.800 I think it's more cool visually than mechanically, and it 1409 01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:18.000 used to be mechanic. 1410 01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:19.920 So I think going. 1411 01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:23.800 Back to yeah, your point, the reason I putshield is 1412 01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:28.000 because originally this was mechanic and mechanically a shield that 1413 01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:31.719 does a shit ton of damage, it's innovative. It's interesting 1414 01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:33.840 to me, and we can like discuss this. I think 1415 01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:35.960 this is going to come up. Best form of attack 1416 01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:39.079 also means the evolution of attack if it's something I've 1417 01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:41.400 seen before that's not as interesting. 1418 01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:42.880 To me, and it was something that is just like 1419 01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:44.599 new to like, you know, if you played Doom twenty 1420 01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:47.079 sixteen or Doom Eternal, it kind of changes up the 1421 01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:49.159 whole way combat works in a Doom game because like 1422 01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:51.800 it becomes more of a very focused thing and it's 1423 01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:53.880 very satisfying. Like it's kind it's got a bit of 1424 01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:57.559 a generous window. It's not like a Bloodborne type thing 1425 01:05:57.599 --> 01:05:59.599 where it's like you gotta be framed perfect. It's like 1426 01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:02.719 you green think you hit it roughly in that window, 1427 01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:04.360 you're gonna do a cool thing and perry back and 1428 01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:05.159 that's all the shield. 1429 01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:07.559 Yeah, you know, you like heat up those metal shields 1430 01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:09.519 and then you throw it and then everything blows up. 1431 01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:11.280 Yah as hell. 1432 01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:14.480 Shield's sick, and I think it. I think it has 1433 01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:15.840 a point to stay here. 1434 01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:20.000 I'm gonna say something risky like balls from the back. 1435 01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:22.719 It's funny to say I didn't nominate this. I think 1436 01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:24.199 we did because we thought it was funny to. 1437 01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:26.199 Say I didn't say that. Okay, No, I have a 1438 01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:29.559 point against that. For some characters in that game, balls 1439 01:06:29.599 --> 01:06:31.880 from the back do not work. There are certain no, 1440 01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:33.840 I know the character builds in that game. There are 1441 01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:35.679 a lot of characters. You fuck yourself if you get 1442 01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:38.800 the ball from the back upgrade. There's one character. There's 1443 01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:41.199 one character where the balls from the back that's their default, 1444 01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:43.400 but you want to build on that by getting the 1445 01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:46.440 like oh you can you go through the backs of enemies, 1446 01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:47.480 but you don't go through the front. 1447 01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:49.480 Like it doesn't always work all that well. 1448 01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:52.000 Yeah, balls from the front is a better tactic most 1449 01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:53.079 of the time in that game. 1450 01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:58.119 M all Rightye yeah, I think I mentioned ball expit. 1451 01:06:58.239 --> 01:06:59.280 I was like, there's a few in there, and then 1452 01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:02.280 I think someone else mentioned I think we can cut 1453 01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:04.239 the Mex suit. I think I think the fact that 1454 01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:05.800 it is kind of like I guess you could argue 1455 01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:07.280 that the Shield and Doom is kind of a suite 1456 01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:09.079 of abilities and stuff too, But I think that is 1457 01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:12.039 a better version of this than the Mex The Mex 1458 01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:14.320 Suit is awesome. Yeah, the shield is more interesting as 1459 01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:16.199 cool as the Mex Suit is, It's it's still not 1460 01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:20.440 my go to when I play using the acts of 1461 01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:22.079 the Daggers. You know, like me too. 1462 01:07:22.119 --> 01:07:23.880 Yeah, I did the mech suit once and I'm like 1463 01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:25.719 this and then I never touched it again. 1464 01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:27.440 Oh man, I'm I'm a I'm a torch guy. So 1465 01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:30.000 we're down to three with out of the Yoyo and Pipistrello, 1466 01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:32.039 the Shield and Doom, the Dark Ages and the Strike 1467 01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:34.159 Attack and Sectory, which we have not talked about. So 1468 01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:36.880 this is like such a critical part of sectory where 1469 01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:38.440 it's like it is basically any of the Triggers or 1470 01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:40.440 bumpers will do this, and it's just the way that 1471 01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:43.000 like whenever there's a power up or something on the field, 1472 01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:44.880 that is the way you dash into it and it 1473 01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:47.800 does this shockwave. It is offense and its defense because 1474 01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:49.840 when you dash in, it does the shockwave that kills 1475 01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:51.920 a bunch of things. But it's also you're like, oh fuck, 1476 01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:53.480 get out of jail free card thing when you're like 1477 01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:55.119 backed into a corner and you're like, fuck you, you've 1478 01:07:55.119 --> 01:07:57.400 got like invincibility frames you go through it. It's also 1479 01:07:57.480 --> 01:07:59.000 your way of getting a ton of like score and 1480 01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:00.480 stuff like that, getting this strike combo. 1481 01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:02.000 If you see clumps of it, even if you're not 1482 01:08:02.039 --> 01:08:03.639 trying to escape something, if you see a huge clump 1483 01:08:03.679 --> 01:08:05.519 of enemies, I go right to them with that because 1484 01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:06.599 then it just pops them all. 1485 01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:10.039 It's very satisfying and it is just so core to like, 1486 01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:12.119 if you've played it, it text a little bit to 1487 01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:13.920 kind of get what's going on in sectory, but once 1488 01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:15.360 you kind of get it, you realize that, like the 1489 01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:18.159 strike attack is kind of like that is the core 1490 01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:20.079 of what you're doing here, is timing that right. 1491 01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:22.600 It's not my main You told me it was like 1492 01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:24.520 the main way that you play, and I think that's 1493 01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:26.880 really cool that, like you found something that works really 1494 01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:27.399 well for you. 1495 01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:31.039 I'm I'm really into the missiles is the way missiles 1496 01:08:31.039 --> 01:08:31.479 are mine. 1497 01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:33.680 Because it's an auto and I'm not saying it's it's 1498 01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:36.520 not important. I think the strike attack is important, but 1499 01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:38.399 to me, it is not core to how I play. 1500 01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:40.640 And I will also add I don't think it's super 1501 01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:42.239 innovative that there's a dash attack. 1502 01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:44.079 No, I think that's the thing. It's like, it's not 1503 01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:46.279 just a dash attack. I think it is core too. 1504 01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:48.239 It's not just this is more satisfying than the blaster 1505 01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:50.840 of the missiles. It is that the whole system. If 1506 01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:52.279 you start playing that at a high level where you 1507 01:08:52.319 --> 01:08:53.920 want to start like getting on the like leader words 1508 01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:56.800 and stuff, you can't do it without going after the 1509 01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:58.560 strike so much because that is how you get that 1510 01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:01.840 combo up like blasters eat missiles great. Getting those upgrades awesome, 1511 01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:04.399 feels good and everything, but it's not changing the way 1512 01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:06.399 that you like attack the leader boards and things like that. 1513 01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:10.680 The strike attack is again offense, defense, and scoreboard. It 1514 01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:14.520 is just objectively the most important thing you can do 1515 01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:18.800 in that game. The shield is offense and defense as well, and. 1516 01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:21.960 It's my favorite thing to do I can do. 1517 01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:26.680 I can play this game and focus on other things 1518 01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:29.840 to do. But sheild in like Doom, I get so 1519 01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:32.720 freaking excited to throw that shield around. It's like one 1520 01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:34.279 of the best parts of that entire game. 1521 01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:37.119 It definitely is. I honestly think it is my favorite 1522 01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:39.960 part of Doom. The arcades. I don't disagree with anything 1523 01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:41.439 you said about the strike it. I agree. I don't 1524 01:09:41.439 --> 01:09:42.199 think it's don't. 1525 01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:44.600 I think it's a fantastic attack. But when I think 1526 01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:47.279 about the best form of attack. When we played Doom, 1527 01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:50.920 which is a reimagining of Doom again, very interesting game. 1528 01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:53.479 That they've tried new things with, the shield is like 1529 01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:55.720 the coolest part in my opinion. 1530 01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:57.600 Would you say more so than the yo yo only 1531 01:09:57.600 --> 01:09:59.880 because the way you describe the yoyo I was kind 1532 01:09:59.880 --> 01:10:01.720 of that was like how it evolves and stuff that 1533 01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:02.800 sounds pretty yo. 1534 01:10:02.720 --> 01:10:05.279 Yo is sick. I mean, I I don't. I didn't 1535 01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:07.319 think that the yoyu had a chance because. 1536 01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:12.159 I didn't see how it ramps up because I think 1537 01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:14.039 it's towards the end. 1538 01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:16.560 Again, like, the yo yo is everything in that game, 1539 01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:18.720 and I do really encourage people to play it as 1540 01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:19.720 a metroidvania. 1541 01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:21.760 It's super fun to watch how it scales. 1542 01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:26.720 It's such a different thing to compare to UH with 1543 01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:30.079 these other options, But yeah, the yo yo is UH. 1544 01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:33.399 It is thrilling to be able to have such a 1545 01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:36.000 variety of tacks with one object but use it in 1546 01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:38.640 such an incredible amount of ways. And it is also 1547 01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:42.720 traversal and attack and defense. It's every it's everything that 1548 01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:44.920 you're talking about. It's all in one. Is this is 1549 01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:47.640 this yo yo. But it's not an attack. It's the 1550 01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:48.880 type of attack. Does that make sense? 1551 01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:51.359 It's the entity, it's not the type of attack. Yeah. Yeah, 1552 01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:54.319 I mean it sounds like shield. I mean that's shield 1553 01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:54.840 is so cool? 1554 01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:57.000 That is that is the thing with that when you 1555 01:10:57.039 --> 01:10:58.760 first get any he like, does the bump and the 1556 01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:00.319 spikes come out of this chance? 1557 01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:02.039 It looks shield? 1558 01:11:02.239 --> 01:11:02.800 Yeah. 1559 01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:05.000 Shield. 1560 01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:07.640 It's fucking hard, right, yeah, yeah, let's put it down. 1561 01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:10.720 It's like Captain America was actually cool. 1562 01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:14.720 Yeah, like that's what he wishes. 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Sponsor nominees are 1586 01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:32.119 the Crest System from Silk Song, Going Up or Going 1587 01:12:32.159 --> 01:12:39.199 Out in Hades, two destructible environments d K Bonanza, prox 1588 01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:42.720 Chat from Arc Raiders head Tracking, and good Night Universe. 1589 01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:55.840 Mary You're up plays two characters ball x Pitt Stack 1590 01:12:55.920 --> 01:12:57.600 Upgrades from Sectory. 1591 01:12:57.439 --> 01:12:59.640 Picktose an Expedition thirty three. 1592 01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:07.680 First Mode luminais Arise, Cannibalism in Peak and Bombs and 1593 01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:10.319 ooh all right, thank you. 1594 01:13:10.319 --> 01:13:14.520 Wendy's Let's go with Okay, Mary, I believe with going 1595 01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:18.960 up and going out you were not sure why that belonged. 1596 01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:28.279 I need you come back. I what I like the 1597 01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:30.239 Hades thing a lot. I think going up and going 1598 01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:32.600 out is I think it adds a lot of variety. 1599 01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:36.560 Not to jump an argument for Hades later in the show, 1600 01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:42.159 I'm hesitant to bring up a knock against Haites two 1601 01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:44.239 that many people often bring up, and I feel like 1602 01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:47.359 going up and going out is kind of the anti argument. 1603 01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:48.840 I think going up and going out is. 1604 01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:51.520 For me what separates it from the first game the most, 1605 01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:54.239 almost like structurally in terms of format. I think it's like, oh, 1606 01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:56.039 you've got a bunch of new weapons, your character plays 1607 01:13:56.119 --> 01:13:59.079 very differently, You've got new characters, there's new resources, there, 1608 01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:03.079 news to upgraded weapons. The overall structure of the game, 1609 01:14:03.119 --> 01:14:07.119 to me, I think is what makes it very special 1610 01:14:07.119 --> 01:14:08.840 and more than just more Haites one. 1611 01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:11.119 I think it's great at mixing things up. I think 1612 01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:13.840 it is the thing that in one I never did 1613 01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:16.600 the full ten runs or whatever to beat the game, 1614 01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:18.119 because it is just kind of the same thing over 1615 01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:20.039 and over again. As good as that is, at least 1616 01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:26.119 with this it's like what Mike Okay, Mike, Sorry, Okay, yeah, 1617 01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:29.680 all right, it's not the Tendi's fault. I think being 1618 01:14:29.720 --> 01:14:43.800 able to mix it up is critical. The prox chet 1619 01:14:46.039 --> 01:14:50.960 our Damn, why didn't I get a card? 1620 01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:55.399 The prox chat. The prox chat and arc Raiders is 1621 01:14:55.439 --> 01:14:59.399 truly like defines that game for me. It's what makes 1622 01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:01.399 that game. I mean, have you watched the upf with Kla. 1623 01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:02.079 Yeah. 1624 01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:05.279 The fact that you can actually like the sociology of it, 1625 01:15:05.319 --> 01:15:10.399 that you can actually scare, like convince other players that you yourself, 1626 01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:12.399 the person behind the avatar in the game is a 1627 01:15:12.439 --> 01:15:14.640 psycho and ready to fuck people up. 1628 01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:16.039 The fact that you can. 1629 01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:19.920 Use your own personality to drive them away or bring 1630 01:15:19.960 --> 01:15:21.319 them in. And then we saw what I did, like 1631 01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:23.279 we gained that one dude's trust, and then I used 1632 01:15:23.279 --> 01:15:25.800 a code word that he himself heard. The last thing 1633 01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:27.720 you heard before he got killed was oh maybe that's 1634 01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:30.479 why my butt itches, And like that is amazing to me. 1635 01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:35.039 And also like I think that without that, Arc Raiders 1636 01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:38.840 would not be this amazing entry point into extraction shooters. 1637 01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:41.079 I think the prox chat is the key that unlocks 1638 01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:42.520 the whole the brilliance of that game. 1639 01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:44.680 Here's the question I have, as someone who's not played 1640 01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:47.840 any extraction shooter prior to this, is that, like, are 1641 01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:50.920 other games in this genre? Have they utilized it? Like 1642 01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:52.760 you know, a tarkab and stuff like that, Like is 1643 01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:55.479 that I think? Yeah? Right? So I answered that, so 1644 01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:57.600 other games definitely have used this. 1645 01:15:57.680 --> 01:16:00.920 But I think the threat of the machines kind of 1646 01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:03.479 forces you to work together in arc Raiders and that's 1647 01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:05.119 where that prox chat kind of comes in hand you. 1648 01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:07.640 But there's still that question that always lingers right where 1649 01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:09.640 it's like is this player friendly? 1650 01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:11.239 Do they want to help me hunt robots? Or are 1651 01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:15.479 they going to shoot on site? Yeah? But okay, so 1652 01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:18.840 the other ones didn't have the pbpv E. No, they 1653 01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:20.960 they did. They are like the whole point was to 1654 01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:23.600 fight other players pretty much like that's not the point here. 1655 01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:27.760 Yes, I would say escape from Tarkov you can team 1656 01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:29.800 up with other players, but I'd say of the times 1657 01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:32.039 you see other players, it's probably closer to like eighty 1658 01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:34.000 five percent, you're going to automatically assume they're going to 1659 01:16:34.079 --> 01:16:36.560 try to kill you, and you kill them. I would 1660 01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:38.279 say arc Raders is reversed. It's like you kind of 1661 01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:42.319 assume m Maybe it's fifty to fifty, but the odds 1662 01:16:42.319 --> 01:16:43.840 that someone's actually going to try to work with you 1663 01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:44.800 is a bit higher. 1664 01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:51.159 I mean, it is the thing I love about Arc Raiders. 1665 01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:52.960 I think, to me, it is the most interesting thing 1666 01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.199 about that game. But you know, I am just new 1667 01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:57.119 to the genre. So yeah, I've just been hesitant to 1668 01:16:57.199 --> 01:16:59.880 be like, wow, revolutionary because I just don't know if it's. 1669 01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:04.079 Yeah, can I suggest a cut? Yeah, Pictos and Expedition 1670 01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:06.359 thirty three. I think I love the variety. I love 1671 01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:08.279 how many options there are to synergize them. I love 1672 01:17:08.319 --> 01:17:12.520 the way that you can you're basically as opposed to 1673 01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:15.680 a system like Skyrim, where you're using a skill in 1674 01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:17.640 order to learn it. You learn these but then you're 1675 01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:19.840 basically using them in order to be able to lock 1676 01:17:19.880 --> 01:17:22.520 them in without having them equipped, which allows you to 1677 01:17:22.640 --> 01:17:25.319 overput like it can overpower a character while they try 1678 01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:29.359 out new stuff. However, I think one of my only 1679 01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:32.279 knocks against that game is it gives you pictose at 1680 01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:33.359 such a rapid pace. 1681 01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:36.279 I stopped caring. 1682 01:17:36.079 --> 01:17:39.880 About them for a while, which there's nothing I could 1683 01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:43.079 have cared more about them and been theory crafting more 1684 01:17:43.119 --> 01:17:44.760 with the characters. But like I don't think they were 1685 01:17:44.960 --> 01:17:47.640 essential to progressing until a certain point, and then at 1686 01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:49.279 a certain points like I really need to min max 1687 01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:50.880 these different characters in their strengths, But like. 1688 01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:53.000 I would argue, you don't even really need to because 1689 01:17:53.039 --> 01:17:55.079 like I think it was a cool system, but I 1690 01:17:55.159 --> 01:17:57.279 really didn't spend any time, Like I know, if you 1691 01:17:57.279 --> 01:17:58.880 wanted the min max and really go deep on it 1692 01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:01.119 and make this like unbelief of the killer building stuff, 1693 01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:03.720 you could you could do that. But you can absolutely 1694 01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:06.039 just go through this game and enjoy it and not 1695 01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:09.279 really have to think about it. You know that, I 1696 01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:12.920 would say as well, Jacob married you have thoughts on 1697 01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:16.880 the pictose, I just don't think we've We've covered a 1698 01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:22.399 lot of ground. The fuck is going on? Best feature? 1699 01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:24.680 They are some of the best features. We remember we 1700 01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:26.600 they were originally best mechanic, but we thought it'd be 1701 01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:30.199 better to split it into form of attack and features. 1702 01:18:33.159 --> 01:18:38.640 Like I'm losing my mind. What do you guys want 1703 01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:47.079 me to talk about? Any you have any unlocked Mary kids? 1704 01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:51.800 First stand fucking first ad read over here. 1705 01:18:52.199 --> 01:18:56.640 Delicious is destructible environments of feature? 1706 01:18:57.840 --> 01:19:01.159 I mean, yeah, I think in Bonanza it is a 1707 01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:04.159 core like there are certain games that I will think 1708 01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:06.600 about the destructable environments before I think about anything else 1709 01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:09.880 Red Faction, Battlefield, Bad Company, and the k Bananza, where 1710 01:19:09.880 --> 01:19:11.479 it's like that is the core of that game, and 1711 01:19:11.479 --> 01:19:13.880 it is a feature that has done so well, from 1712 01:19:14.039 --> 01:19:16.199 just how satisfying it is to break through all that 1713 01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:18.600 stuff to the way like it's actually kind of readable 1714 01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:20.840 and even like the camera stuff you're going through these 1715 01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:23.199 mountains and because of the way you use the silhouettes 1716 01:19:23.239 --> 01:19:24.760 and things like that, you can actually like you never 1717 01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:26.920 really feel lost. So like, I think it is a 1718 01:19:27.039 --> 01:19:30.039 core feature of Donkey Kong Bananza and it is the 1719 01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:32.760 thing that most differentiates it from other like three D platforms, 1720 01:19:32.800 --> 01:19:35.399 Like it's the Odyssey team that made it. Bonanza feels 1721 01:19:35.560 --> 01:19:38.399 completely different than Odyssey because of this feature, and it 1722 01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:39.800 is so satisfying throughout. 1723 01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:43.439 They're also not afraid to let you we were talking 1724 01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:46.359 about like solving stuff and ooh in an unintended way. 1725 01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:48.760 There's so many times in Donkey Kong where I'm just 1726 01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:51.399 bashing my way through a fucking like cliff face and 1727 01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:53.319 then all of a sudden, I stumble into this this 1728 01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:55.439 room where you could tell by the title of the 1729 01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:57.520 Banana when I collect it. That was not how they 1730 01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:00.520 quote unquote intended me to get it. And I actually 1731 01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:02.199 go back out the way that it would have if 1732 01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:04.399 I hadn't used the destructible environment. I'm like, oh, I 1733 01:20:04.439 --> 01:20:06.920 was supposed to do this like platforming challenge. Instead, they 1734 01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:10.079 were confident enough in the game design to just say, like, sure, 1735 01:20:10.159 --> 01:20:12.640 let them let Donkey Kong just bash his way into 1736 01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:14.079 this anti chamber and grab it. 1737 01:20:14.199 --> 01:20:17.319 If they are just you know, chewing through this rock. 1738 01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:20.720 It is satisfying to do and it is critical. Unlike 1739 01:20:20.720 --> 01:20:23.159 you know, we cut the pictose and from Exhibition thirty 1740 01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:25.039 three because it's like, oh, it's a cool idea that 1741 01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:26.439 really you don't have to pay that much attention to. 1742 01:20:26.680 --> 01:20:29.439 You're not playing Donkey Kong Bananza. If you're not constantly 1743 01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:31.920 destroying the environment in a million different ways to a 1744 01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:34.359 million different ends. You know, it is it is what 1745 01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:35.279 that game is, you know. 1746 01:20:35.439 --> 01:20:37.600 For a potential cut, what about going up, going out 1747 01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:39.840 Hades two. I know we kind of talked about this briefly, 1748 01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:45.800 but it's cool, but like it's just another area, you know, 1749 01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:47.199 I guess, yeah. 1750 01:20:47.079 --> 01:20:48.680 I mean it does a lot to me. Those areas 1751 01:20:48.680 --> 01:20:51.720 are interesting. It adds a lot of variety, but I mean, 1752 01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:53.520 I guess I do also like that the ones when 1753 01:20:53.560 --> 01:20:56.000 you go out are a little more linear, a little 1754 01:20:56.039 --> 01:20:58.800 more like the first hades, and going up is like, man, 1755 01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:01.199 they're very different, you know that that first area where 1756 01:21:01.199 --> 01:21:03.039 you get to like to pick which ones you want 1757 01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:04.720 to go to from that hub world, and then you're 1758 01:21:04.760 --> 01:21:07.119 on the ship that's going from station to station like 1759 01:21:07.159 --> 01:21:09.560 there is. It just does a lot to make Haiti. 1760 01:21:09.560 --> 01:21:11.119 It is the main thing I think that makes Haiti's 1761 01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:16.960 too much better than the first game. So I'm just 1762 01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:19.840 I don't know. I think it. I like it. I 1763 01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:23.039 like it. I would cut I love sectory. I don't 1764 01:21:23.039 --> 01:21:27.039 think the stack upgrade system is the thing that makes 1765 01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:27.760 that such a special. 1766 01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:28.640 I think it makes it dewey. 1767 01:21:28.720 --> 01:21:30.640 I don't think it makes it like the best feature. 1768 01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:33.119 But yeah, clever risk reward, it's a very way to 1769 01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:35.239 do it. It helps, yeah, but I don't think it 1770 01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:43.399 hangs here. I'll cut Verse Mode. Luminous Rise. I'm a 1771 01:21:43.439 --> 01:21:46.439 big Luminous guy. It is the main thing that separates 1772 01:21:46.439 --> 01:21:48.600 it from the original Luminous and it's really cool and 1773 01:21:48.640 --> 01:21:50.600 it's really satisfying the way it kind of like almost 1774 01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:52.399 creates its like black hole of sorts of like, you know, 1775 01:21:52.439 --> 01:21:54.399 one of the types of blocks, and it clears up 1776 01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:56.079 so much of the field, and it caused it the 1777 01:21:56.119 --> 01:21:57.720 other ones to kind of rain down and clean those 1778 01:21:57.760 --> 01:22:01.000 up easier. It's very, very satisfying. I don't think it hangs. 1779 01:22:01.560 --> 01:22:05.039 I will also say I nominated this. I'd say despite 1780 01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:08.600 the fact that playing as two characters in ball cross 1781 01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:11.199 Pit whatever we're calling it, there's a certain point in 1782 01:22:11.199 --> 01:22:14.560 the game where you basically get a building that you 1783 01:22:14.600 --> 01:22:17.760 can put in your town that allows you to combine 1784 01:22:17.800 --> 01:22:19.520 two separate characters. And if you played it, you know 1785 01:22:19.520 --> 01:22:21.520 there is a character that is already like Allah of 1786 01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:25.119 the ice climbers, a single character, but it's two entities. 1787 01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:28.720 You can combine those with a third in that case. 1788 01:22:29.279 --> 01:22:29.800 I love that. 1789 01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:32.880 You then from then on you're not just thinking how 1790 01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:34.840 am I going to amplify this one character's abilities? You 1791 01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:37.039 are thinking, how do I amplify both these characters abilities? 1792 01:22:37.039 --> 01:22:38.399 How do they work in concert in a way that's 1793 01:22:38.399 --> 01:22:40.560 going to help me destroy these demons by like, the 1794 01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:42.479 only reason I wouldugus cuting is because there's like four 1795 01:22:42.520 --> 01:22:43.359 I like more. 1796 01:22:43.159 --> 01:22:45.840 Than that here, speaking of things, I would cut because 1797 01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:49.399 there's things I like more. Cannibalism and Peak is really funny. 1798 01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:52.000 The idea that you can kill one of your well, 1799 01:22:52.159 --> 01:22:55.039 one of your friends dies, you can die of hunger 1800 01:22:55.079 --> 01:22:57.439 in that game, so eating them to sustain yourself is 1801 01:22:57.600 --> 01:23:00.319 very funny. It kind of revitalized that game for a 1802 01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:05.720 second round. Uh, it's really it's a great addition, but 1803 01:23:05.800 --> 01:23:07.359 I don't think it's the best. 1804 01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:11.439 Feature of a game, but it's it's very funny. The 1805 01:23:11.479 --> 01:23:13.520 bombs and U. I mean, it seems like it is 1806 01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:17.199 like the core mechanic, but is there anything particularly like. 1807 01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:20.560 I mean, I think the way you have to manipulate 1808 01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:23.119 the bombs and learn how to work with the bombs 1809 01:23:23.119 --> 01:23:27.359 and what they can do, uh, is very satisfying and 1810 01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:29.479 like that is the main feature of the game. 1811 01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:30.960 But I guess I don't really see it as like 1812 01:23:31.039 --> 01:23:33.159 a feature feature feature. 1813 01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:35.720 You know, like it doesn't it's not like I think 1814 01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:38.159 of like the Crest system and Silk Song that is sick. 1815 01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:41.119 Like that changes how you play, it changes everything in 1816 01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:44.359 the in the bombs and U, like, I think that 1817 01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:44.760 can go. 1818 01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:48.159 I think we've we've pushed OO as far as it 1819 01:23:48.159 --> 01:23:48.520 can go. 1820 01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:50.680 It It is not going to have like the most 1821 01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:53.800 incredible mechanic. I would also say we compared OU to 1822 01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:56.439 Animal Well earlier in this way where it's like, oh 1823 01:23:56.439 --> 01:23:57.000 my god, I didn't know. 1824 01:23:57.000 --> 01:23:59.079 I could do all this stuff. That's really cool. 1825 01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:03.880 An Animal, well, it's one device I can do lots 1826 01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:06.319 of different things. It's just bombs, Like, yes, you can 1827 01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:08.720 use it for different maneuverability, but doesn't make you fly 1828 01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:09.239 or anything. 1829 01:24:09.239 --> 01:24:11.520 It's just bombs that push you a certain direction. That's 1830 01:24:11.520 --> 01:24:13.840 a we'll cut that. 1831 01:24:15.359 --> 01:24:18.319 Good Night Tracking good Night Universe is something we haven't mentioned. 1832 01:24:19.159 --> 01:24:21.079 Yeah, I mean, I think it's gonna be a tough 1833 01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:23.279 one to get through, but I will make an argument 1834 01:24:23.319 --> 01:24:24.920 that this is the same devs. 1835 01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:29.319 That did Your Eyes, which is the eye. 1836 01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:32.079 Tracking game, and every time you blinked time past in 1837 01:24:32.119 --> 01:24:37.000 the game. In good Night Universe, it tracks your entire face. 1838 01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:40.039 When you smile, the baby laughs, when you frown, the 1839 01:24:40.039 --> 01:24:44.159 baby cries, And when you turn your head and you 1840 01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:46.680 have to close your eyes, you become a radio signal. 1841 01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:52.159 And so you hear this wiry noise as if like 1842 01:24:52.199 --> 01:24:54.640 you're looking for a radio station and you literally turn 1843 01:24:54.720 --> 01:24:56.800 your head left and right to find the right station 1844 01:24:56.920 --> 01:25:00.840 and lock in. I just think it's very immersive, and 1845 01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:02.520 it's again it's very innovative. 1846 01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:07.159 I've never seen a game that tracks your head Do 1847 01:25:07.279 --> 01:25:17.279 that continue And I think I think that's about it. 1848 01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:21.159 I'll argue this, I think that is that sounds really cool, 1849 01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:22.760 and that is just like like I was talking about 1850 01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:24.600 Bonanza and how it's a feature that is the core 1851 01:25:24.640 --> 01:25:26.640 of that game. It sounds like that's the core of 1852 01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:29.439 good Night Universe. Is that head tracking? So I would 1853 01:25:29.560 --> 01:25:31.319 I bombs anew or at the core of that game too, 1854 01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:33.800 though that's true, But I mean this is more novel. 1855 01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:35.640 I think the destructble environments, the head tracking is a 1856 01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:40.399 little more novel. I love Hollow Night Soilk song. I 1857 01:25:40.439 --> 01:25:43.520 will say I didn't mess with the Crest system. I 1858 01:25:43.680 --> 01:25:45.800 liked the first one. I liked the diagonal down attack. 1859 01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:48.279 Oh you missed out. I know there's more stuff you 1860 01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:49.840 can do. I know people love the Pogo one and 1861 01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:52.079 all that stuff. I unlocked every one of them. I 1862 01:25:52.119 --> 01:25:54.000 looked at him for a second, I was like, Okay, 1863 01:25:54.119 --> 01:25:56.439 maybe tried out on Boston having trouble with always just 1864 01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:58.159 went back to that first one. So like, to me, 1865 01:25:58.359 --> 01:26:00.680 that's like the pictos in Extra in thirty three, where 1866 01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:03.439 it's like cool idea, not really critical to the experience. 1867 01:26:03.439 --> 01:26:05.199 You don't have to do it to enjoy and play 1868 01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:05.840 through this whole game. 1869 01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:08.920 I think the defense I have against that is were 1870 01:26:08.920 --> 01:26:10.920 there any bosses in particularly that you had trouble on? 1871 01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:14.199 Yeah, did you ever experiment with cress to kind of 1872 01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:16.800 stuff like that. I'm like, Okay, this attack is a 1873 01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:18.199 little better for this for me. 1874 01:26:18.239 --> 01:26:19.960 It is, especially like when I started to play through 1875 01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:21.680 two is when I really started to mess around with 1876 01:26:21.720 --> 01:26:24.640 those crests, And I think that's when you realize how 1877 01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:27.239 much thought has gone into those different mechanics and how 1878 01:26:27.279 --> 01:26:29.239 you can do an entire run with just one and 1879 01:26:29.279 --> 01:26:32.680 be totally fine. But there are ones that like kind 1880 01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:34.960 of I don't want to be too hyperbolic and say 1881 01:26:34.960 --> 01:26:38.159 fundamentally change how you play, but they can really tweak 1882 01:26:38.199 --> 01:26:39.960 your build in a way that I think is not 1883 01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:41.680 even tweak. I'd say it's more than tweak. But they 1884 01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:45.199 can do a lot, I think to make that game interesting, 1885 01:26:45.319 --> 01:26:48.399 change up combat scenarios, change how you think about enemies, 1886 01:26:48.399 --> 01:26:50.600 Like I think there's a lot of cool stuff going on. 1887 01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:52.560 Raker is a game changer. 1888 01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:55.319 If you're struggling on an enemy and want to do 1889 01:26:55.520 --> 01:26:58.319 more damage more quickly, and essentially say I don't care 1890 01:26:58.359 --> 01:26:59.319 about healing anymore. 1891 01:26:59.359 --> 01:27:01.239 I'm going to just be an attack person. 1892 01:27:02.159 --> 01:27:04.920 I think, like, I agree, yes, you can get through 1893 01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:10.640 with one. But what makes Silk Songs so interesting is 1894 01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:13.800 the amount of ways that they have allowed you to 1895 01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:17.680 alter your character. Your play style can change so dramatically. 1896 01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:20.000 My build is probably really different than Jake's build. It's 1897 01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:22.960 probably really different than your build, and they're each catered 1898 01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:27.039 to your each unique individual style, and that is such 1899 01:27:27.039 --> 01:27:28.720 a rad upgrade for a. 1900 01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:29.279 Game like this. 1901 01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:33.319 And I think like layering on how cool the equipment 1902 01:27:33.439 --> 01:27:35.359 and items are in that game, and how I do 1903 01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:37.000 have some problems with that system. I think we'll get 1904 01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:39.000 into it at some point, but I think like the 1905 01:27:39.079 --> 01:27:41.760 way you can kind of not even exploit those items, 1906 01:27:41.800 --> 01:27:44.640 but like the combinations you have between them, and there's 1907 01:27:44.640 --> 01:27:46.000 like some really cool stuff you can do there. 1908 01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:48.439 It's tough. All five of these are kind of like 1909 01:27:48.680 --> 01:27:52.439 actual game changers and core to the experience. Proxchat, Like, 1910 01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:55.119 without that, I don't know if by Yeah, I don't 1911 01:27:55.119 --> 01:27:56.880 know if I play nearly as munch arc Rader as 1912 01:27:56.920 --> 01:27:57.920 I did without prox Chat. 1913 01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:07.119 Yeah, it's I feel like it's coming down to we 1914 01:28:07.199 --> 01:28:09.479 have to distinguish between is it integral to the game 1915 01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:12.079 or is it the best feature on the list, Because 1916 01:28:12.119 --> 01:28:14.479 like I was gonna suggest practice chat, I think that 1917 01:28:14.600 --> 01:28:18.680 is still like the int the key feature in our Graders. 1918 01:28:18.760 --> 01:28:22.119 But destructile environments is the key future for that game, 1919 01:28:22.279 --> 01:28:23.960 you know. Yeah, But I would say, like. 1920 01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:29.279 Destructible environments on that scale and the three D platform 1921 01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:32.199 are almost unprecedented. I don't know that proximity chat is 1922 01:28:32.199 --> 01:28:35.159 totally Psimity chat isn't as much as proximity They found 1923 01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:38.560 like a good rap. They the proximity chat is put 1924 01:28:38.600 --> 01:28:41.279 to very very good use there. I would I would say, 1925 01:28:41.319 --> 01:28:43.880 like that's probably I could. 1926 01:28:43.720 --> 01:28:44.319 See a think cut. 1927 01:28:44.640 --> 01:28:46.600 I would say that and haiti's too much as I 1928 01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:48.319 like the going up, going out and the variety of 1929 01:28:48.319 --> 01:28:50.000 it adds to the overall format of the game. I 1930 01:28:52.399 --> 01:28:54.600 would also say the Crest system at a certain point, 1931 01:28:54.680 --> 01:28:57.439 like trying to remember which one it was that actually 1932 01:28:57.479 --> 01:29:01.239 like felt like it spurred me up to my next 1933 01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:06.239 like a few hours of like really strong momentum. I 1934 01:29:06.239 --> 01:29:10.119 think the Crest system is a very almost like pic Dose. 1935 01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:11.720 I think there are long stretches where you don't think 1936 01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:14.359 about it, or at least where I didn't think about it. 1937 01:29:14.720 --> 01:29:16.600 Maybe if I did another play through like you mentioned, 1938 01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:21.800 I would, but like destructable environments the head tracking, I 1939 01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:24.119 didn't play Good Night Universe. I loved the eye tracking 1940 01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:27.720 in Before Your Eyes though, that was genuinely innovative. 1941 01:29:27.840 --> 01:29:28.640 I think they're both good. 1942 01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:30.720 I mean, if I would have to cut one of them, 1943 01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:32.399 I head tracking. 1944 01:29:32.119 --> 01:29:33.279 Is really cool. 1945 01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:36.520 There's parts where you don't need it. It's one of 1946 01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:41.199 multiple features in that game. There's also there's different types 1947 01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:42.840 of innovation in that game. 1948 01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:45.760 And which are also really cool. 1949 01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:49.279 But the one I'm specifically talking about, yeah, it is 1950 01:29:49.319 --> 01:29:53.199 like the way that you move, it's not completely isolated 1951 01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:56.079 to you. So there's an area where you're trying to 1952 01:29:56.119 --> 01:29:59.119 scare your babysitter's boyfriend because you don't like him, and 1953 01:29:59.840 --> 01:30:01.039 I I was trying to see if I could do 1954 01:30:01.039 --> 01:30:03.439 it differently than someone else. But essentially, when you close 1955 01:30:03.439 --> 01:30:06.159 your eyes, something happens to the environment to scare him. 1956 01:30:06.439 --> 01:30:09.119 I didn't get to alter what happens or how it happens. 1957 01:30:09.439 --> 01:30:11.399 I'm closing my eyes in the game, is like cool, 1958 01:30:11.439 --> 01:30:14.239 go to that cut scene, so very cool. 1959 01:30:14.399 --> 01:30:15.359 Really glad that they did it. 1960 01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:18.319 It helps immerse me, but it is a controlled space. 1961 01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:19.520 Does that make sense? 1962 01:30:19.640 --> 01:30:22.520 It doesn't allow me to have a unique experience in 1963 01:30:22.560 --> 01:30:26.600 that game, whereas like the Crest System, Now I get 1964 01:30:26.640 --> 01:30:29.760 to cater that game to my style. I get to 1965 01:30:29.840 --> 01:30:31.560 fine tune it to the way I want to play 1966 01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:33.279 a game, which is why we play games, right. 1967 01:30:33.319 --> 01:30:35.520 It's because you get to your way, you get to 1968 01:30:35.560 --> 01:30:35.920 do what. 1969 01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:37.760 You want, and that's why I think that's a way 1970 01:30:37.840 --> 01:30:40.000 better version of what a feature is. 1971 01:30:39.960 --> 01:30:42.399 Meant to be. I mean, am I hearing that? Like, 1972 01:30:42.560 --> 01:30:45.439 probably the two clearest cuts to me would be proc 1973 01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:48.960 chat and head tracking. I think that makes sense to me. Yeah, okay, 1974 01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:53.000 let's do it. That would mean our three finalists are 1975 01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:55.520 the Crest System and Soak Song going up and going 1976 01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:58.039 out in haities two in destructual environments, and DKA Bananaza. 1977 01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:02.439 I'll just say, my mind is the dkay That's that's 1978 01:31:02.479 --> 01:31:05.039 what that game is to me. Yeah, it's. 1979 01:31:06.039 --> 01:31:07.680 I told Dan I got the switch to and I 1980 01:31:07.720 --> 01:31:09.840 was like, well, we talked about Bananza on a couple 1981 01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:13.680 episodes ago, and I actually feel like it it should 1982 01:31:13.760 --> 01:31:17.239 be considered more of a system seller because that I 1983 01:31:17.319 --> 01:31:20.319 love Mario Odyssey, and I don't know that I would 1984 01:31:20.560 --> 01:31:23.239 get close to saying this game is better than Mario Odyssey. However, 1985 01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:28.159 the destructible environments and the the freedom you're given to 1986 01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:32.640 just fuck up the level in a genre that historically 1987 01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:35.439 is one of the hardest genres to craft, like the 1988 01:31:35.520 --> 01:31:37.520 level design and three D platformers, I feel like is 1989 01:31:37.600 --> 01:31:40.840 just so difficult and good three D platformer level design 1990 01:31:41.119 --> 01:31:44.640 is just un rivaled the fact that they put these 1991 01:31:44.680 --> 01:31:46.920 amazing levels together and then just let you just tear 1992 01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:54.840 through them, and is it's bananas to me? It really, 1993 01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:58.319 it really is, Like I don't want to say it's 1994 01:31:58.319 --> 01:31:59.560 a game changer, because no one else is going to 1995 01:31:59.560 --> 01:32:02.600 even attempt that. Ever, I don't think it really truly 1996 01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:05.760 is just I was I'm continually astonished. I'm at the 1997 01:32:06.119 --> 01:32:08.720 forest Layer, the eighth one or whatever it is, so 1998 01:32:08.760 --> 01:32:10.760 I'm not fully done with the game. But the more 1999 01:32:10.760 --> 01:32:12.680 and more I play that game more, I'm like, they 2000 01:32:12.720 --> 01:32:15.399 really are just letting me get in there. 2001 01:32:15.800 --> 01:32:17.520 Put it this way, like when you first saw the 2002 01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:20.039 reveal of DK Bananza, it is a feature that is 2003 01:32:20.079 --> 01:32:23.800 so striking and instantly recognizable and fun looking that that 2004 01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:26.039 was the takeaway in just a trailer. It's like that 2005 01:32:26.119 --> 01:32:27.840 is the star of like, oh my god, you can 2006 01:32:27.880 --> 01:32:30.199 break through anything. Like It's not like when people were 2007 01:32:30.199 --> 01:32:32.279 first seeing, you know, Exhibition thirty three, it's like, oh, 2008 01:32:32.279 --> 01:32:34.840 well picked out this menus level of system or this 2009 01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:37.199 crust system or whatever. You know, these are all very 2010 01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:40.119 good systems, but it's not a thing that like, upon 2011 01:32:40.239 --> 01:32:42.920 first glance at the game be like, whoa, that's crazy. 2012 01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:45.119 You can do that, you know, and it's not just 2013 01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:47.039 a gimmick. It is like it is so much fun 2014 01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:48.920 and it's pulled off so well too. I think they 2015 01:32:49.119 --> 01:32:50.279 easily could have done this poorly. 2016 01:32:50.439 --> 01:32:52.279 And then there are boss fights later on where they're 2017 01:32:52.319 --> 01:32:54.399 making use of that. When I was like, oh, these 2018 01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:55.760 are the boss fights I want to see in this game. 2019 01:32:55.800 --> 01:32:57.399 And you actually kind of have to use the destructible 2020 01:32:57.439 --> 01:32:59.520 environments and not just like a platform or you're fighting 2021 01:32:59.560 --> 01:32:59.960 a boss. 2022 01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:02.079 I mean, that's my big for sure. Mary. 2023 01:33:02.199 --> 01:33:06.640 How are you feeling about, uh, destructible environments versus Crest system. 2024 01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:10.439 I'm in support of destructible environments for this very specific feature. 2025 01:33:10.640 --> 01:33:11.800 I will still. 2026 01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:14.840 Argue like, I think the Crest system is incredible and 2027 01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:17.600 so nuanced and so important to the intricacy of what 2028 01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:20.520 makes games games because it allows you to play things 2029 01:33:20.520 --> 01:33:24.279 differently at the same time, like games are meant to 2030 01:33:24.319 --> 01:33:26.520 be fun, they're meant to be like whimsical and wild. 2031 01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:29.279 And the fact that in DK, it's very important that 2032 01:33:29.359 --> 01:33:31.479 this is specifically for Donkey Kong. If this was a 2033 01:33:31.479 --> 01:33:33.840 different game, I'd be like, who cares? Like, why is 2034 01:33:33.840 --> 01:33:37.720 that so integral? Donkey Kong destroys things, That's what he does. 2035 01:33:38.079 --> 01:33:39.720 They took a character and they said, how do we 2036 01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:42.399 min max this? How do we dial him up to eleven? 2037 01:33:42.439 --> 01:33:44.039 And the way you do that is you make him 2038 01:33:44.039 --> 01:33:46.239 be able to destroy every fucking thing onto the planet. 2039 01:33:46.279 --> 01:33:48.079 And they did it well and even to your point 2040 01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:50.720 of like doing things differently, you know, like as mentioned 2041 01:33:50.760 --> 01:33:53.319 with Hollow Night, like like Mike said, it allowed him 2042 01:33:53.319 --> 01:33:55.640 to get too objectives and get bananas and stuff in 2043 01:33:55.680 --> 01:33:58.039 totally different ways because of that freedom of what it 2044 01:33:58.079 --> 01:33:58.800 allows you to do. 2045 01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:01.159 So yeah, I mean, I think there's a world in which, 2046 01:34:01.239 --> 01:34:06.000 for this very specific thing you can argue for destructible environments. 2047 01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:08.520 So I'm not like, I don't think I'm going to 2048 01:34:08.600 --> 01:34:12.760 like fight this too much. I think destructible environments is 2049 01:34:12.800 --> 01:34:16.000 a fair like it's an incredible feature I think, like 2050 01:34:16.039 --> 01:34:18.800 my last argument here is like the Crest system was 2051 01:34:18.840 --> 01:34:21.239 built on top of an existing system. 2052 01:34:21.520 --> 01:34:24.880 Hollow and I had already had badges. 2053 01:34:24.439 --> 01:34:26.880 That were meant to allow you to customize your character, 2054 01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:31.279 and there was an obvious reason that players gravitated towards this, 2055 01:34:31.359 --> 01:34:34.760 because it's so neat that maybe I have an extended nail, 2056 01:34:35.039 --> 01:34:37.880 but you have something that allows you to have a 2057 01:34:37.920 --> 01:34:39.920 couple extra bubbles that give you more health, and so 2058 01:34:39.960 --> 01:34:42.520 you could play more defensively and I can play more aggressively. 2059 01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:46.079 And I think that's it's such a unique use of 2060 01:34:46.119 --> 01:34:48.720 a system that allows you to play in individual ways. 2061 01:34:48.840 --> 01:34:52.960 And the developer said, let's do that also times ten, right, Like, 2062 01:34:53.359 --> 01:34:55.840 let's like make that such a huge concept in the 2063 01:34:55.880 --> 01:34:58.319 next game. So the CRES system is truly built to 2064 01:34:58.399 --> 01:35:01.479 allow you to customize how you play. I hope that 2065 01:35:01.560 --> 01:35:04.279 more games duplicate this in the future and allow you 2066 01:35:04.359 --> 01:35:06.640 to play more defensively, me to play more aggressively, you 2067 01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:08.560 to play and mix it up based on what. 2068 01:35:08.760 --> 01:35:11.199 There's no punishment. You can just change your crest. 2069 01:35:11.560 --> 01:35:12.560 You have to spend money. 2070 01:35:14.119 --> 01:35:16.159 I will say, though, it just sounds like you're also 2071 01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:19.439 describing how elden Ring works as an entire game, Like. 2072 01:35:20.159 --> 01:35:21.239 Yeah, I mean, like, how does that? 2073 01:35:21.279 --> 01:35:23.479 How is that different from any from software's games where 2074 01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:27.159 you can tellor your character, especially system actually changes mechanics 2075 01:35:27.239 --> 01:35:29.720 in the game. Okay, well like from software. 2076 01:35:29.319 --> 01:35:31.760 Like yeah, use, you're stronger in certain ways. 2077 01:35:31.800 --> 01:35:34.640 The stronger I guess different weapons can kind of change mechanics. 2078 01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:37.880 But it's still like there's a rhythm I would say 2079 01:35:37.960 --> 01:35:41.119 to Hollow Night that changes depending on the crest that 2080 01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:43.039 I guess eldin Ring does too. 2081 01:35:43.199 --> 01:35:46.279 Let me let me say this, Elderering isn't a platformer. 2082 01:35:46.279 --> 01:35:48.640 This game is a platformer. And then there's certain platforming 2083 01:35:48.640 --> 01:35:51.119 spaces that you need different crests in order to execute 2084 01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:52.079 much easier. 2085 01:35:52.279 --> 01:35:53.560 There are certain crests. 2086 01:35:53.279 --> 01:35:56.720 That have you dive at an angle, which makes platforming 2087 01:35:56.760 --> 01:35:59.239 more difficult, and then there's crests that let you essentially 2088 01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:03.079 pogo vertical down, which makes platforming a lot easier. So 2089 01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:06.000 when I'm platforming, I would change crests to make those easier, 2090 01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:08.319 and then I would change So it's like, I don't 2091 01:36:08.399 --> 01:36:12.039 think from software has platforming in the same capacity that 2092 01:36:12.039 --> 01:36:13.039 they needed to do. 2093 01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:14.199 But it's infuriating. 2094 01:36:14.479 --> 01:36:16.840 Yeah, right, it's they It's the thing they need to 2095 01:36:16.920 --> 01:36:20.640 get rid of in their games. Yeah, yeah, uh okay, 2096 01:36:21.159 --> 01:36:25.359 I so destructible environments kind of seems like that's where 2097 01:36:25.359 --> 01:36:25.840 it's swaying. 2098 01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:28.039 Yeah, I don't. I don't think I have a problem 2099 01:36:28.079 --> 01:36:29.520 with that. I think it's a great feature. 2100 01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:30.720 I think it's really cool what they did. 2101 01:36:31.720 --> 01:36:37.239 Okay, Best feature twenty twenty five is destructible environments. 2102 01:36:38.079 --> 01:36:41.880 Thank you to Wendy's thank you all right? 2103 01:36:42.239 --> 01:36:50.399 Next up, next category is Coziest Game of the Year. 2104 01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:54.199 Your nomine use are Fantasy Life, I The Girl who 2105 01:36:54.239 --> 01:36:57.119 Steals Time, Powerwash Simulator, Too. 2106 01:36:57.520 --> 01:37:02.159 Cast in Chill, a game about digging a hole, Wheel World, 2107 01:37:02.640 --> 01:37:03.479 Time Flies. 2108 01:37:04.319 --> 01:37:09.199 There's no Agent World. Sorry, I brought shoemaker that sorry spilled. 2109 01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:16.159 Henry Halfhead, who needs a beer? Uh you do? Henry Halfhead? 2110 01:37:16.319 --> 01:37:17.399 Isn't that cozy? 2111 01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:20.439 I actually thought it was a little annoying. I thought 2112 01:37:20.439 --> 01:37:22.399 it was annoying because it was a little too cozy 2113 01:37:22.520 --> 01:37:25.079 kid bullshit be oh, Henry loves season his crip and 2114 01:37:25.119 --> 01:37:27.439 now he wants to go play with his blocks. I 2115 01:37:27.479 --> 01:37:29.680 just thought it was a little too baby cozy. 2116 01:37:29.720 --> 01:37:32.199 You know, it's too much talkie for me to be cozy. 2117 01:37:32.239 --> 01:37:34.840 I actually think my most coziest games don't talk to 2118 01:37:34.880 --> 01:37:35.239 me at all. 2119 01:37:35.279 --> 01:37:37.399 They allow me to just do a task and do 2120 01:37:37.479 --> 01:37:40.159 it well. So that seems like an easy cut right 2121 01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:40.680 out of the gate. 2122 01:37:40.840 --> 01:37:47.920 Yeah, I mean I put in Fantasy Life. I I 2123 01:37:47.920 --> 01:37:50.159 don't think anyone else played it. But this is a 2124 01:37:50.520 --> 01:37:54.680 life sim except uh sim not really a sim. 2125 01:37:54.479 --> 01:37:55.079 But you know what I mean. 2126 01:37:55.520 --> 01:37:58.159 Uh, Except you can pick a vocation and there's different 2127 01:37:58.159 --> 01:38:00.920 stories around each vocation. It's it's kind of like an 2128 01:38:01.039 --> 01:38:03.359 RP if Animal Crossing was an RPG. And I think 2129 01:38:03.439 --> 01:38:07.119 this is a very cool cozy game. But I think 2130 01:38:07.159 --> 01:38:11.199 to Mary's point, the game is talking at you a lot. 2131 01:38:11.279 --> 01:38:11.600 You know that. 2132 01:38:11.720 --> 01:38:14.600 It's like sometimes it can be hard to get into 2133 01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:17.439 that cozy flow state because you're just like going through dialogue, 2134 01:38:17.439 --> 01:38:21.000 watching cut scene. There's a story. It kind of guides you. 2135 01:38:21.479 --> 01:38:24.039 I think a little too much for for cozy game. 2136 01:38:24.279 --> 01:38:27.279 And I imagine no one's gonna I can cut that. 2137 01:38:27.439 --> 01:38:30.159 Manage your call, Bud, it's gone. 2138 01:38:33.520 --> 01:38:38.520 Uh Okay. I've only played a couple of these, but. 2139 01:38:38.560 --> 01:38:41.640 I've played all of them. But I welcome anyone to 2140 01:38:41.800 --> 01:38:42.680 chime in and then. 2141 01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:44.840 All I have a lot of opinions. 2142 01:38:44.880 --> 01:38:45.840 Obviously, it's kind of. 2143 01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:51.119 My I can ask you a question, then uh would 2144 01:38:52.600 --> 01:38:54.520 why would? I mean maybe this was for Dan because 2145 01:38:54.520 --> 01:38:57.319 I think he added it. But why is Powerwash Simulator 2146 01:38:57.319 --> 01:38:59.359 to considered a cozy game? Is it because you can 2147 01:38:59.359 --> 01:39:01.800 get into like flow state and just kind of yeah. 2148 01:39:01.560 --> 01:39:03.760 But it's it's like the opposite of a flow state 2149 01:39:03.800 --> 01:39:05.800 of like a sectory where it's like a sectory is 2150 01:39:05.840 --> 01:39:07.439 something where it's like, yeah, we talked about like flow 2151 01:39:07.479 --> 01:39:11.119 staying stuff, but that is like requiring one of your attention. 2152 01:39:11.479 --> 01:39:14.000 Powerwash is a different type of just like that is 2153 01:39:14.039 --> 01:39:16.439 the game. Like I would say nine out of ten games, 2154 01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:18.680 if I'm playing it, I'm focusing entirely on the game. 2155 01:39:18.720 --> 01:39:20.119 I don't have something on in the background. I'm not 2156 01:39:20.159 --> 01:39:22.880 listening to something or watching something. Power Wash Simulator two 2157 01:39:23.159 --> 01:39:26.279 is the best. Like I'll put on this aw pay 2158 01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:28.960 per view and I'll know mainly be watching that and 2159 01:39:28.960 --> 01:39:30.600 I'll just have this on my stand back whatever kind 2160 01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:32.840 of exactly. It's a podcast game, so it's like it's 2161 01:39:32.920 --> 01:39:35.760 just a very cozy, like I'm just gonna spray this 2162 01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:38.000 stuff for a while. There's no time limit, there's no 2163 01:39:38.279 --> 01:39:41.960 fail state, there's just like it is just satisfaction that's it. 2164 01:39:42.880 --> 01:39:46.520 The question I have is does that, like, is a 2165 01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:47.880 podcast game a cozy game. 2166 01:39:48.359 --> 01:39:50.560 That's a good question, and I guess that is two 2167 01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:52.479 different things. A podcast game is when you don't really 2168 01:39:52.479 --> 01:39:54.720 have to pay that much attention to and you can 2169 01:39:54.720 --> 01:39:56.800 do other things. And a cozy game is I think 2170 01:39:56.840 --> 01:39:58.920 a lot of like I don't know, like what is 2171 01:39:58.960 --> 01:40:01.560 what is the like animal crossing a stardoo? 2172 01:40:02.119 --> 01:40:04.239 You know, a game that's meant to relax you and 2173 01:40:04.399 --> 01:40:05.199 camm you you. 2174 01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:09.920 It sounds like kind does I mean, that's also a 2175 01:40:09.920 --> 01:40:11.359 good playing game for me. But that's a whole different 2176 01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:15.720 It's the next category. Man. It's not cozy in the 2177 01:40:15.720 --> 01:40:18.239 way that like the aesthetics are not cozy. It's not 2178 01:40:18.760 --> 01:40:21.159 teddy bears and pastel colors and stuff like that. I mean, 2179 01:40:21.159 --> 01:40:23.079 it's not like it's harsh. I mean, it's just like, 2180 01:40:23.479 --> 01:40:24.800 I don't know, I'm just going to clean up a 2181 01:40:24.800 --> 01:40:28.279 fucking doghouse, you know, like it's it's it's it's relaxed. 2182 01:40:29.039 --> 01:40:32.520 I don't know if that equals cozy, And Okay, it does. 2183 01:40:32.560 --> 01:40:34.439 I think it absolutely belongs and I don't think we 2184 01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:38.039 have to remove it yet. It's it. It remains a 2185 01:40:38.039 --> 01:40:41.279 cozy game. Absolutely, I'm going to challenge a game about 2186 01:40:41.279 --> 01:40:43.800 digging a hole, because while digging the hole is really cozy, 2187 01:40:44.079 --> 01:40:47.279 the ending is not cozy. And anyone's actually finished this 2188 01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:48.920 game would tell you it's not a cozy game. 2189 01:40:48.960 --> 01:40:50.520 I didn't think the whole had a bottom. 2190 01:40:50.640 --> 01:40:53.119 You're going to blow your mind, and I'm going to try. 2191 01:40:53.279 --> 01:40:55.119 I don't need to spoil it. If we all are 2192 01:40:55.119 --> 01:40:57.079 in agreement, it's it ain't cozy at the end. 2193 01:40:57.119 --> 01:40:59.079 Oh, the end is not you know. No, I never 2194 01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:01.960 got the bottom or the game. It's a really cool game. 2195 01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:03.760 I hope people play it, but the ending is like 2196 01:41:04.079 --> 01:41:05.720 a surprise and it's not cozy. 2197 01:41:06.359 --> 01:41:11.119 So cutting that. So we have a few other games. 2198 01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:13.159 I think Mary added one that I've seen. I haven't 2199 01:41:13.159 --> 01:41:15.520 played his Cast and Chill, and that game looks cozy 2200 01:41:15.520 --> 01:41:15.880 as hell. 2201 01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:19.199 This game is like the definition of cozy. 2202 01:41:19.560 --> 01:41:22.880 You're a guy on a boat. You choose where your 2203 01:41:22.880 --> 01:41:26.479 boat is left and right. You choose to cast, and 2204 01:41:26.520 --> 01:41:31.000 then hopefully fish catches your line. You have a couple 2205 01:41:31.039 --> 01:41:34.159 buttons to try and pull the fish up, much like fishing. 2206 01:41:34.159 --> 01:41:35.079 It's just so zen. 2207 01:41:35.199 --> 01:41:37.000 And then you use the money from the fish that 2208 01:41:37.039 --> 01:41:41.800 you catch to upgrade your fishing line, your boat, your hook, 2209 01:41:42.359 --> 01:41:45.359 your pole, so you're just being able to catch fish 2210 01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:49.479 that are deeper, stronger fish. The first time you catch 2211 01:41:49.479 --> 01:41:51.760 a salmon, it's like nice, try bitch, like it can 2212 01:41:51.800 --> 01:41:54.800 get away. After you upgrade your line enough, you can 2213 01:41:55.000 --> 01:41:58.520 catch like the most crazy fish in the lake. And 2214 01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:01.840 your dog is sleeping in the boat with you, and 2215 01:42:01.840 --> 01:42:05.279 every time you catch a fish, he's just like, you're amazing, 2216 01:42:05.319 --> 01:42:07.199 You're so good, and the dog gives you a little heart. 2217 01:42:07.439 --> 01:42:09.800 It's so cozy. Nothing really bad happens to this game. 2218 01:42:09.840 --> 01:42:11.000 It's extremely relaxing. 2219 01:42:11.319 --> 01:42:13.319 That sounds kind of hard to be say. 2220 01:42:13.439 --> 01:42:16.279 I love real World, but there's some like it's it's 2221 01:42:16.319 --> 01:42:19.119 fairly it's not high stakes, but there's some racing involved. 2222 01:42:19.119 --> 01:42:20.640 There's a race. I can never be cozy when I'm 2223 01:42:20.720 --> 01:42:23.439 racing it. And did you get to the second world. Yeah, 2224 01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:26.520 it just it becomes like industrial healthcare, corporate, and I 2225 01:42:26.640 --> 01:42:28.359 like that game. 2226 01:42:28.159 --> 01:42:30.720 Game world isn't cozy. I think my biggest issue with 2227 01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:32.960 this game we talked about this when we covered it, 2228 01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:37.119 is I find it almost shocking that this second area 2229 01:42:37.319 --> 01:42:39.079 is so unattracted. 2230 01:42:39.239 --> 01:42:41.039 It's bad. Yeah, I just thought it was gonna be 2231 01:42:41.079 --> 01:42:42.399 that first Yeah, I thought it was gonna be this 2232 01:42:42.479 --> 01:42:44.279 nice biking island, and then it's like, oh wait, the 2233 01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:46.319 game is not over. Oh wait, this is where I'm at, 2234 01:42:46.359 --> 01:42:48.479 And honestly that's where I fell off the game. You're 2235 01:42:48.520 --> 01:42:52.920 like fighting oil. Yeah, I just if credits rolled when 2236 01:42:52.960 --> 01:42:54.520 I finished that first island, I would have been like, 2237 01:42:54.560 --> 01:42:56.119 what a great little INDI game. I agree, And then 2238 01:42:56.159 --> 01:42:57.600 it went into that second thing and I played it 2239 01:42:57.640 --> 01:43:00.039 for like thirty forty five minutes or something like you 2240 01:43:00.159 --> 01:43:02.760 want to plays anymore? Very good, but yeah, yeah it's great. 2241 01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:07.479 But okay, that Time Flies is that cozy might. 2242 01:43:07.399 --> 01:43:09.439 Be more of a thinker, which I should have added 2243 01:43:09.479 --> 01:43:14.560 to the incomes category. Upon reflection, I think it's easy 2244 01:43:14.600 --> 01:43:18.720 to play and pick up. You are just a little 2245 01:43:18.720 --> 01:43:20.800 fly and you do these little puzzles. I think it's 2246 01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:23.920 whimsical in the sense that it's punny. So maybe the 2247 01:43:23.920 --> 01:43:29.000 puzzle will be become a musician, and so you come 2248 01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:31.760 across the guitar, and as a fly, you just fly 2249 01:43:31.880 --> 01:43:33.960 across the strings of the guitar. It plays the guitar, 2250 01:43:34.359 --> 01:43:36.800 and thus you've checked off learned to become a musician. 2251 01:43:37.119 --> 01:43:40.880 I think that's very sweet. It made me really happy. 2252 01:43:41.119 --> 01:43:43.520 There's something that's not very cozy in it, which is 2253 01:43:45.239 --> 01:43:48.680 the life expectancy of your fly. Is you choose it 2254 01:43:48.720 --> 01:43:52.039 based on the country that you're in, and it's actual data. 2255 01:43:52.159 --> 01:43:57.840 So if the average lifespan in Argentina is seventy two years, 2256 01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:01.039 then your life expectancy as your fly is two seconds. 2257 01:44:01.199 --> 01:44:04.600 And so there's certain countries where your flies life expectancy 2258 01:44:04.680 --> 01:44:08.159 is like fifty seconds because their life expectancy of the 2259 01:44:08.279 --> 01:44:10.920 country is fifty And I was like, kind a dark, Ye, 2260 01:44:12.479 --> 01:44:14.319 I don't think that's very cozy at all. 2261 01:44:14.880 --> 01:44:15.720 Do we have our top three? 2262 01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:17.800 Then if I think if we're willing to cut time 2263 01:44:17.800 --> 01:44:19.119 flies and we've got our time, I think so that. 2264 01:44:19.439 --> 01:44:20.880 Yeah. 2265 01:44:21.119 --> 01:44:24.560 So we are left with powerwash simulator to cast and 2266 01:44:24.640 --> 01:44:25.800 chill and spilled. 2267 01:44:25.840 --> 01:44:29.880 We haven't heard anything about spilled. Spilled is very cozy, 2268 01:44:30.079 --> 01:44:30.600 you are. 2269 01:44:31.079 --> 01:44:33.000 This is an indie ass indie game. I should I 2270 01:44:33.039 --> 01:44:37.880 should start with because sorry, uh chairs, these chairs, these 2271 01:44:38.479 --> 01:44:45.399 these WrestleMania chairs are really squeaky. So Spilled is an 2272 01:44:45.399 --> 01:44:47.279 indie game made by one person. 2273 01:44:47.840 --> 01:44:50.079 You are a boat and you are cleaning up. 2274 01:44:50.000 --> 01:44:53.439 The rivers and the lakes that have oil spills in them. 2275 01:44:53.520 --> 01:44:56.159 Every time you clean up a space, animals come back, 2276 01:44:56.199 --> 01:44:59.039 so you'll see fish and otters and birds. 2277 01:44:58.680 --> 01:44:59.479 And it's so cute. 2278 01:44:59.760 --> 01:45:01.439 And and then the money that you get from all 2279 01:45:01.439 --> 01:45:04.640 the stuff you're cleaning up upgrades your machine. You become faster, 2280 01:45:05.159 --> 01:45:08.239 you have a wider arc to pick up trash, and 2281 01:45:08.279 --> 01:45:11.680 you can even like send people onto islands and different 2282 01:45:11.680 --> 01:45:13.119 things to upgrade in different ways. 2283 01:45:13.439 --> 01:45:14.840 Again, it's a very basic game. 2284 01:45:14.880 --> 01:45:16.520 So I just want to say, it's like it's limited 2285 01:45:16.520 --> 01:45:18.640 because this is a one person game. 2286 01:45:18.840 --> 01:45:20.840 It's it's not super intricate, but. 2287 01:45:20.760 --> 01:45:22.920 It sets off to what it does very well, and 2288 01:45:22.960 --> 01:45:28.960 it's it's extremely calming and thoughtful with environmentalism and cleaning 2289 01:45:29.039 --> 01:45:31.640 up the environment in a suite and simple way. 2290 01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:34.920 Boy god, I feel like this is a category that 2291 01:45:35.039 --> 01:45:38.399 Mary vote should count for like three and but I 2292 01:45:38.439 --> 01:45:42.119 will say for what it's worth. Just hear you describe it, boy, 2293 01:45:42.239 --> 01:45:45.319 cast and chill sounds like exactly what this category is. 2294 01:45:45.399 --> 01:45:47.119 You know, this game is a sedative. 2295 01:45:47.239 --> 01:45:50.119 I think like if you play this, it's gonna relax 2296 01:45:50.199 --> 01:45:53.439 you and camm you. So I think that or Powerwash 2297 01:45:53.479 --> 01:45:55.039 Simulator does the job. 2298 01:45:55.279 --> 01:45:58.399 I mean, I've I know power Simulator is my pick. 2299 01:45:58.399 --> 01:46:00.159 And stuff, and not even my pick. I just it's 2300 01:46:00.159 --> 01:46:01.760 the one I played. I haven't played the other, but 2301 01:46:01.840 --> 01:46:04.840 your description of Cast and Chill sounds like I would 2302 01:46:05.239 --> 01:46:07.159 I would put my vote in for that, you know. Yeah, 2303 01:46:07.199 --> 01:46:08.000 it's so zen. 2304 01:46:08.720 --> 01:46:10.640 So yeah, I think I think they're both good, and 2305 01:46:10.680 --> 01:46:12.399 I think depending on this is what I would say too, 2306 01:46:12.560 --> 01:46:14.479 Just for people who are listening, it's not just about 2307 01:46:14.479 --> 01:46:17.920 who wins. It's like about the game that will appeal 2308 01:46:17.960 --> 01:46:20.399 to you the most. Power Wah simulator has a lot 2309 01:46:20.439 --> 01:46:24.520 more to do. There's dirty, dirty invit youse players are dirty, 2310 01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:25.880 and you have a lot to do. So there's a 2311 01:46:25.920 --> 01:46:28.000 lot of time that you get to spend cleaning these environments. 2312 01:46:28.279 --> 01:46:31.479 Cast and Chill is only what I said. You're fishing, 2313 01:46:32.680 --> 01:46:35.560 that's it. So if you're like, that's you know, I 2314 01:46:35.600 --> 01:46:37.920 wish there was more. I wish there was more gameplay. 2315 01:46:37.960 --> 01:46:40.000 This is going to be really limiting for you. That's 2316 01:46:40.039 --> 01:46:43.680 all you do. You pish and that's it. So I 2317 01:46:43.720 --> 01:46:45.840 will just say like that for how limiting it is 2318 01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:48.840 powerwashed simulatory, but you get to upgrade all sorts of 2319 01:46:48.880 --> 01:46:52.079 different ways and yeah, and do different things. 2320 01:46:52.680 --> 01:46:55.079 I vote for Cast and Chill, all right, all right, 2321 01:46:55.600 --> 01:46:57.640 I'm I'm cool with that. Cast and Chill. 2322 01:46:57.720 --> 01:47:01.439 Mm hmm. All right. Fire Escape's coziest game of the 2323 01:47:01.479 --> 01:47:03.279 year is Cast and Chill. 2324 01:47:05.239 --> 01:47:10.640 All right, Next up, all right, Next category is best 2325 01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:11.199 playing Game. 2326 01:47:13.359 --> 01:47:21.439 Amines are Haighties, two ball Pit, megabonk Sectory, Luminous Arise. 2327 01:47:21.880 --> 01:47:25.119 The Pistrello, and the Yo Yo Thing, Once. 2328 01:47:24.960 --> 01:47:27.119 Upon a Katamari, Hollow Night's. 2329 01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:30.560 Soak Song, Monster Train two, Hoday one. 2330 01:47:30.640 --> 01:47:34.439 Right now, Yeah, I this is I think Hollow Night 2331 01:47:34.560 --> 01:47:37.479 is an amazing It's great for steam back. 2332 01:47:37.800 --> 01:47:39.720 That's not what we're talking about. I was gonna say 2333 01:47:39.720 --> 01:47:41.560 the thing, you want to. 2334 01:47:41.479 --> 01:47:43.680 Play that fucking game on a in a place I 2335 01:47:43.720 --> 01:47:47.600 already hate being the first twenty hours of that game 2336 01:47:47.640 --> 01:47:51.520 I played on a plane, And I agree because I 2337 01:47:51.680 --> 01:47:53.359 even just like not even like a long was the 2338 01:47:53.399 --> 01:47:58.640 flight Well, I flew there, I flew back, which was 2339 01:47:59.039 --> 01:48:04.079 ten hours, okay, contu And yeah, I mean I think 2340 01:48:04.079 --> 01:48:07.560 the thing is is like, first of all, I like 2341 01:48:07.640 --> 01:48:10.720 it here because it absolutely like that flight flew by. 2342 01:48:10.920 --> 01:48:12.399 Oh sure, I wish I had a control of the 2343 01:48:12.520 --> 01:48:14.920 entire time, Like I wish I was playing on a proper. 2344 01:48:14.640 --> 01:48:17.640 Controller with a proper deepet, you know, playing on steam 2345 01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:20.720 deck and make your thumbs eventually played on switch to 2346 01:48:20.960 --> 01:48:24.159 Like my wrist still hurts. This is gonna sound very stupid, 2347 01:48:24.199 --> 01:48:26.560 but like because I was playing it on a plane, 2348 01:48:26.600 --> 01:48:28.319 and like I don't know, I was like holding in 2349 01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:30.000 a certain way that hurt my risk because I was 2350 01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:30.720 so tense up. 2351 01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:32.640 Oh okay, that's not what you went on a plane, 2352 01:48:32.720 --> 01:48:34.239 And like, I love this game. 2353 01:48:34.279 --> 01:48:35.800 I adored this game, but I wish I could have 2354 01:48:35.840 --> 01:48:37.880 played the first twenty hours not on a plane. 2355 01:48:38.359 --> 01:48:40.880 It's kind of I think that I know you played 2356 01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:41.920 a lot on the on a plane. 2357 01:48:41.920 --> 01:48:43.960 I've played the Ships game on and in fact I 2358 01:48:43.960 --> 01:48:45.600 played it on the way here as well, because I 2359 01:48:45.640 --> 01:48:49.159 was taking down another boss on the way to this conversation. 2360 01:48:49.359 --> 01:48:50.399 And it's funny you say this. 2361 01:48:51.079 --> 01:48:52.880 I played this game a lot on a plane, so 2362 01:48:53.359 --> 01:48:54.359 it's on here for a reason. 2363 01:48:54.399 --> 01:48:55.439 It does belong on here. 2364 01:48:55.920 --> 01:48:59.079 But I was playing it hunched over also because I 2365 01:48:59.079 --> 01:49:02.199 wasn't using a control and then when the plane landed, 2366 01:49:02.199 --> 01:49:03.560 I was like, oh I should straighten. 2367 01:49:03.319 --> 01:49:04.279 Up, and my back. 2368 01:49:04.199 --> 01:49:08.359 Like, oh my god, Like it was too The game 2369 01:49:08.439 --> 01:49:11.039 is so tense that I was like hunched over, really 2370 01:49:11.079 --> 01:49:14.479 focused playing, in my opinion, the best plane game is 2371 01:49:14.520 --> 01:49:17.079 actually something that's not too insane that. 2372 01:49:17.039 --> 01:49:19.399 You have to be that locked in. It should make 2373 01:49:19.479 --> 01:49:22.720 time melt. That is an occasion, I think, yes. 2374 01:49:22.800 --> 01:49:25.720 But you also shouldn't be so stressed that you're upset 2375 01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:27.720 that you like have to shift in your seat, that 2376 01:49:27.760 --> 01:49:28.680 you're uncomfortable. 2377 01:49:28.720 --> 01:49:30.920 There's like a nice middle ground here. 2378 01:49:31.039 --> 01:49:33.560 I was doing Biowater on the flight, and I was 2379 01:49:33.680 --> 01:49:35.600 losing my because I couldn't look anything up too, because 2380 01:49:35.600 --> 01:49:36.279 I was on a plane. 2381 01:49:36.520 --> 01:49:37.920 I don't know if you know Biowater. I don't know 2382 01:49:37.920 --> 01:49:39.079 because I think it's an optional area. 2383 01:49:39.119 --> 01:49:39.239 I know. 2384 01:49:39.279 --> 01:49:41.479 I'm sure you've been to Biowater. Oh yeah, but oh 2385 01:49:41.520 --> 01:49:45.760 my god. I was getting so angry. I would say 2386 01:49:46.039 --> 01:49:49.560 cut it because of everything. But I also would almost 2387 01:49:49.560 --> 01:49:52.000 say Sectory. Now. I have not played Sectory on a 2388 01:49:52.039 --> 01:49:53.920 plane yet. I probably will in about a week. But 2389 01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:56.399 I find myself just down in my computer, like if 2390 01:49:56.439 --> 01:49:58.239 I die in a stupid way, like oh I had 2391 01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:00.119 four shields, but I died because I was on the 2392 01:50:00.159 --> 01:50:03.359 red triangles were I'm involunteerily. But you know, like I'm like, 2393 01:50:03.840 --> 01:50:05.680 I don't want that feeling on a plane. 2394 01:50:06.439 --> 01:50:09.760 I'm sure again a game, Yeah, I played a lot 2395 01:50:09.760 --> 01:50:14.039 of it on the plane yesterday. It I thought it 2396 01:50:14.079 --> 01:50:16.079 was great on a plane, it is, it can be 2397 01:50:16.159 --> 01:50:20.159 frustrating in a way that I was I would not Yeah, 2398 01:50:20.159 --> 01:50:21.720 I don't want to subject to other people to that. Ye, 2399 01:50:23.039 --> 01:50:24.319 I think I still think it was amazing on the 2400 01:50:24.359 --> 01:50:26.560 plane because like you can sort of tune out for 2401 01:50:26.600 --> 01:50:28.520 a bit if you want to beat like the first 2402 01:50:28.560 --> 01:50:30.479 boss in that game, you don't have to think too hard. 2403 01:50:30.840 --> 01:50:34.079 But then again later on it requires like a state 2404 01:50:34.119 --> 01:50:37.600 of tension that is not conducive to like you know, 2405 01:50:37.680 --> 01:50:39.880 killing time sectory. 2406 01:50:40.239 --> 01:50:42.119 Yeah cut that. Yeah. 2407 01:50:42.359 --> 01:50:44.000 I also was gonna like I actually played a lot 2408 01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:46.039 of Hades too on planes as well. 2409 01:50:46.159 --> 01:50:47.000 And while I. 2410 01:50:46.960 --> 01:50:49.800 Think it does fulfill that like like it would just 2411 01:50:49.840 --> 01:50:52.239 burn flights, you know, I wouldn't even realize it, Like 2412 01:50:52.680 --> 01:50:54.840 you know, they'd be like thirty minutes to landing. 2413 01:50:54.840 --> 01:50:56.239 I'd be like enough time for a run, and then 2414 01:50:56.319 --> 01:50:57.479 next thing I knew, I'd be landing. 2415 01:50:57.560 --> 01:51:01.920 However, once again playing when I finally like played it 2416 01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:06.039 docked at home, Oh man, this art really pops like 2417 01:51:06.520 --> 01:51:10.520 the set like hearing it, and like it is kind 2418 01:51:10.520 --> 01:51:13.079 of twitchy too, not as twitchy as something like Hollow Night, 2419 01:51:13.119 --> 01:51:16.319 but I do think like that game is not best 2420 01:51:16.359 --> 01:51:17.279 experienced handhealth. 2421 01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:19.199 I agree it's not the best way to play Hates. 2422 01:51:19.319 --> 01:51:21.760 It's interesting because like Haiti's one and two, I probably 2423 01:51:21.760 --> 01:51:24.880 played ninety to ninety five percent of that on a handheld, 2424 01:51:24.920 --> 01:51:26.720 whether a switch or I guess, I don't think it's 2425 01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:28.159 a bad way to play it, but I do think 2426 01:51:28.239 --> 01:51:31.319 like it's better on a screen with a deepad and 2427 01:51:31.560 --> 01:51:31.800 all the. 2428 01:51:33.239 --> 01:51:37.520 Stuff flying at you and all the Visually the game. 2429 01:51:37.319 --> 01:51:41.840 Is very busy, it's very saturated. 2430 01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:45.319 And so on a small screen. Sometimes I got hit 2431 01:51:45.399 --> 01:51:47.199 and I didn't know why, And I think if I 2432 01:51:47.239 --> 01:51:50.239 was on a bigger screen, I would have seen the projectile. 2433 01:51:50.279 --> 01:51:51.920 I would have seen the thing that I needed to 2434 01:51:51.960 --> 01:51:53.439 do a little bit better. 2435 01:51:53.760 --> 01:51:56.399 Again, it's incredible. We're going to talk about it more. 2436 01:51:56.840 --> 01:51:58.880 But for a plane, you want. 2437 01:51:58.720 --> 01:52:02.239 Something that where the graphics are functional. For a small screen, 2438 01:52:02.439 --> 01:52:07.119 MEGABUONK is like I don't know why we're even doing this, 2439 01:52:07.199 --> 01:52:09.600 Like megabunk is like I'm gonna run around and throw 2440 01:52:09.640 --> 01:52:10.520 bananas at people. 2441 01:52:10.600 --> 01:52:12.039 The most you have to think is like, where's the 2442 01:52:12.039 --> 01:52:14.880 next jar I can open? Or like Shrine I can charge, 2443 01:52:15.119 --> 01:52:18.720 or chest I can unlock. While you're just automatically shooting things. 2444 01:52:18.720 --> 01:52:20.640 I will I will say we should cut Monster Train two. 2445 01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:22.399 That's one of my favorite games of the year. On 2446 01:52:22.520 --> 01:52:25.199 a small set, there's a lot of texts, there's some 2447 01:52:25.239 --> 01:52:28.079 complex mechanics that, like, even the first faction you have 2448 01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:28.880 you need to get across. 2449 01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:31.399 I played a lot of it. I did play. I've 2450 01:52:31.399 --> 01:52:34.079 played all of Monster Train two un handheld, but I've 2451 01:52:34.079 --> 01:52:36.319 seen it on a TV and it's like, there is 2452 01:52:36.399 --> 01:52:38.159 a lot of text that if you're sitting kind of 2453 01:52:38.159 --> 01:52:40.079 far away from a TV, it's almost kind of hard 2454 01:52:40.439 --> 01:52:42.680 on my PC, like right there. Oh, that's why. And 2455 01:52:42.720 --> 01:52:45.319 it doesn't disqualify from being I love it and handheld still, 2456 01:52:45.439 --> 01:52:47.680 but I just kind of went ahead and cut it. 2457 01:52:47.720 --> 01:52:52.399 But it sounds like maybe not if you disagree talking well, 2458 01:52:52.439 --> 01:52:54.199 I didn't know Dan, I knew Mike played a lot 2459 01:52:54.199 --> 01:52:55.800 of it. That's why I was like, you know, I've 2460 01:52:55.800 --> 01:53:00.640 put a decent amount of it. Boy, I didn't mind 2461 01:53:00.800 --> 01:53:02.800 the small text thing on the screen. 2462 01:53:03.560 --> 01:53:05.159 How about a question for you, then, did you enjoy 2463 01:53:05.239 --> 01:53:09.399 playing Monster Monster Train two more on a plane or hades? 2464 01:53:09.720 --> 01:53:12.720 I didn't cut Hades. It seemed like some people had 2465 01:53:12.760 --> 01:53:15.159 a case for it. I'd rather keep adies, Okay, we 2466 01:53:15.239 --> 01:53:18.199 have to start cutting. Yeah, pi Ostrello, is there anything? 2467 01:53:18.239 --> 01:53:19.760 Is that? A time melts away? And you don't even 2468 01:53:19.800 --> 01:53:22.520 realize that I played it on a plane a lot. 2469 01:53:23.399 --> 01:53:27.079 Here's my argument to cut it. Oh okay. Sometimes I 2470 01:53:27.159 --> 01:53:30.640 was like, what am I supposed to do right now? Oh? Okay? 2471 01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:32.399 If you're picking it up randomly. 2472 01:53:32.720 --> 01:53:34.680 To me, a perfect playing game means you didn't have 2473 01:53:34.720 --> 01:53:37.520 to like remember where you were last. You don't have 2474 01:53:37.560 --> 01:53:40.640 to remember anything. You can just pick it up and 2475 01:53:40.680 --> 01:53:44.520 play it again. Ball Pit, Megabunk. You don't have to 2476 01:53:44.560 --> 01:53:47.079 be like, where was I in this game? There were 2477 01:53:47.079 --> 01:53:49.199 times in Pipastrello where I was like what was I? 2478 01:53:50.920 --> 01:53:53.039 So? Anyway, a great game, but it can get cut. 2479 01:53:53.159 --> 01:53:56.079 I will cut Katamari. I think I've almost exclusively played 2480 01:53:56.119 --> 01:53:59.399 it on planes. But there's nothing about Katamari that makes 2481 01:53:59.720 --> 01:54:02.800 time necessarily melt away or anything. It's just just an 2482 01:54:02.840 --> 01:54:05.399 easy game to play on a plane. It's yeah, it's 2483 01:54:05.520 --> 01:54:08.159 but it's there's much better on here. I think Megabank 2484 01:54:08.239 --> 01:54:10.039 is kind of the one to beat here. But yeah, 2485 01:54:10.039 --> 01:54:11.520 I guess we simply to cut one more. 2486 01:54:11.560 --> 01:54:13.399 And what we're left with that we haven't really talked 2487 01:54:13.399 --> 01:54:16.880 about is Lumine's arise. So I guess my question Luminous Luminous, Ye, 2488 01:54:17.000 --> 01:54:19.039 Luminous Arise. So I guess my question is does that 2489 01:54:19.039 --> 01:54:20.960 seem like more of a playing game than Hades because 2490 01:54:20.960 --> 01:54:22.319 Hades is kind of on the fringe. 2491 01:54:22.560 --> 01:54:27.840 Yeah, you know what, I would say Hades might be 2492 01:54:27.840 --> 01:54:31.960 better because Hades is one where you more frequently get 2493 01:54:32.199 --> 01:54:35.119 kind of break points where like you know, whether it's 2494 01:54:35.319 --> 01:54:38.880 in between areas or even better, between runs, you can 2495 01:54:38.960 --> 01:54:41.720 end it, whereas like Luminous, I like playing Luminous when 2496 01:54:41.760 --> 01:54:43.680 like there's this journey mode, like if we played Tetris 2497 01:54:43.680 --> 01:54:46.560 effect it's similar, where's just kind of flows from one 2498 01:54:46.600 --> 01:54:47.880 thing to the next, and like I want to be 2499 01:54:47.880 --> 01:54:50.119 able to like just keep going through that journey as 2500 01:54:50.159 --> 01:54:53.720 long as possible. And so I think there's less natural 2501 01:54:53.880 --> 01:54:55.760 just like, oh here's a little break in this Hades 2502 01:54:55.880 --> 01:54:57.920 two thing. It's easier to just kind of stop Hades two, 2503 01:54:58.600 --> 01:55:00.560 pause or something, you know, talk to the you know, 2504 01:55:00.560 --> 01:55:02.119 get a drink or whatever, and then like you know, 2505 01:55:02.239 --> 01:55:04.880 Luminous is kind of like you're in it for a while, 2506 01:55:05.079 --> 01:55:07.800 you know. So I think I would rather have Hades 2507 01:55:07.800 --> 01:55:12.119 two on a plane. My pick for a winner would 2508 01:55:12.159 --> 01:55:14.439 be Megabonk. I mean, yeah, reasons we said it was 2509 01:55:14.479 --> 01:55:16.279 like seven hours yesterday on a nine and a half 2510 01:55:16.279 --> 01:55:18.640 hour flight. I it was by the time I looked up, 2511 01:55:18.640 --> 01:55:20.039 it's like, oh my god, we have two hours left 2512 01:55:20.079 --> 01:55:21.039 in the flight. This is amazing. 2513 01:55:21.199 --> 01:55:24.560 Megabonk is my ultimate time melting game because I don't 2514 01:55:24.880 --> 01:55:27.000 get stressed when I play it, but I do have 2515 01:55:27.079 --> 01:55:28.880 fun when I play it, and I don't need to 2516 01:55:28.920 --> 01:55:30.479 know shit before I play it. 2517 01:55:30.800 --> 01:55:34.680 Perfect again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, brilliant. And also if you 2518 01:55:34.720 --> 01:55:36.520 want to listen to a podcast, it's great for that too, 2519 01:55:36.600 --> 01:55:38.359 So yeah, podcast game playing game. 2520 01:55:38.319 --> 01:55:41.039 I honestly think second is Ballpit. I think it's it's 2521 01:55:41.239 --> 01:55:43.119 very very good for that. 2522 01:55:43.199 --> 01:55:46.520 Yeah, these are three great playing games. Outrageous, it's just 2523 01:55:46.560 --> 01:55:47.159 so fun. 2524 01:55:47.880 --> 01:55:50.439 All right, So Fire Escapes best playing game of twenty 2525 01:55:50.439 --> 01:55:52.640 twenty five is Megabonk. 2526 01:55:53.279 --> 01:55:54.760 I guess we started saying that the runners up to 2527 01:55:54.960 --> 01:55:58.159 like and runners up run Haites two and Ballock's Pit 2528 01:55:58.720 --> 01:56:01.920 excellent two hours. Do you want to do a break 2529 01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:04.520 or you want to do we could do a break here? 2530 01:56:04.600 --> 01:56:08.039 Yeah as well? All right, we are back and our 2531 01:56:08.119 --> 01:56:14.199 next category is games game that is actually funny sorry, 2532 01:56:14.239 --> 01:56:19.399 I can't read. First nominee is Peak Repo r V. 2533 01:56:19.680 --> 01:56:23.520 Therea Arc Raiders Deliver at All Costs. 2534 01:56:23.439 --> 01:56:26.560 King Oh, Kingdom Come Deliverance. 2535 01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:31.680 Two two Claire Obscure Expedition thirty three, Death Stranding two 2536 01:56:31.920 --> 01:56:35.880 on the Beach Baby Steps. Now this is interesting because 2537 01:56:35.880 --> 01:56:38.159 I think there's a breakdown like the first view on 2538 01:56:38.199 --> 01:56:41.119 here or actually vers four are not about comedy writing. 2539 01:56:41.399 --> 01:56:44.239 They're about kind of emergent gameplay and humor and you know, 2540 01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:46.560 friend slop type stuff. Well not Arc Raiders, but you 2541 01:56:46.560 --> 01:56:48.600 know what I mean. It's emergent stuff. And then the 2542 01:56:48.640 --> 01:56:52.479 other ones are largely writing, although I don't really know 2543 01:56:52.560 --> 01:56:56.119 Kingdom Come Deliverance too. Jake, what is the is it? Uh? 2544 01:56:56.159 --> 01:56:58.399 I think Mike and I kind of talked about this 2545 01:56:58.600 --> 01:57:00.439 when we were setting up, but I just think like 2546 01:57:01.039 --> 01:57:03.560 the simulation aspects of that game can put you into 2547 01:57:03.560 --> 01:57:07.000 some very funny situations, like if you don't shower, people 2548 01:57:07.039 --> 01:57:09.680 will smell you, and that can lead to consequences because 2549 01:57:09.720 --> 01:57:13.800 you stink. So it's you end up in situations that 2550 01:57:13.840 --> 01:57:17.720 you didn't necessarily plan for because of the world and 2551 01:57:17.760 --> 01:57:20.359 how it reacts to the player, I think makes it funny. 2552 01:57:20.399 --> 01:57:22.520 I don't know if it's laugh out loud funny the 2553 01:57:22.560 --> 01:57:24.680 way that like maybe some of this other stuff is. 2554 01:57:25.039 --> 01:57:27.000 But I do think it says a lot about the 2555 01:57:27.000 --> 01:57:32.479 game design and how those instances can be very interesting 2556 01:57:32.520 --> 01:57:34.960 and tailored to the player. There's stories that you kind 2557 01:57:34.960 --> 01:57:37.239 of create yourself through how you're playing the game, rather 2558 01:57:37.319 --> 01:57:39.279 than like writing it's. 2559 01:57:39.119 --> 01:57:41.439 Systems driven humor in the way that like Hitman can be, 2560 01:57:41.840 --> 01:57:43.439 or like a Red Dead two. I feel like I 2561 01:57:43.520 --> 01:57:45.680 keep hearing about Red Dead two when this game's talked about. 2562 01:57:46.359 --> 01:57:47.359 Oh yeah, kind of yeah. 2563 01:57:47.399 --> 01:57:51.079 Yeah. Similarly, I would say there's for this list. I 2564 01:57:51.079 --> 01:57:54.560 think there's a clear break between games where the developers 2565 01:57:54.600 --> 01:57:57.319 give you the tools to make the comedy and ones 2566 01:57:57.359 --> 01:58:00.079 that are written with the express purpose of being funny. 2567 01:58:00.560 --> 01:58:02.840 I would say clear obscure Exhibition thirty three. I don't 2568 01:58:02.880 --> 01:58:04.720 think of that largely as a funny game. I think 2569 01:58:04.720 --> 01:58:07.079 there are funny moments, So certain characters are funny. 2570 01:58:07.439 --> 01:58:11.640 Who's the chubby guy Monaco or the big balloon man. 2571 01:58:11.800 --> 01:58:13.239 Yeah he's funny. 2572 01:58:13.680 --> 01:58:16.319 Yeah, he's funny, and he sounds like Javier Bardem Spoogie. 2573 01:58:16.359 --> 01:58:19.399 What was his name? Yep, that's his name. We're going 2574 01:58:19.399 --> 01:58:22.279 with Spoogie. Okay, yes, Spoojie is pretty funny. I don't 2575 01:58:22.439 --> 01:58:23.439 know where that is. 2576 01:58:24.119 --> 01:58:25.159 He's made of wine. 2577 01:58:25.520 --> 01:58:29.520 Oh yeah, that gave some weird stuff. The geest rolls 2578 01:58:29.560 --> 01:58:32.399 and stuff are very funny. I think the gestrols are hilarious. 2579 01:58:32.439 --> 01:58:36.079 The the big mechs that they're making to defend the village. 2580 01:58:36.119 --> 01:58:39.039 I'm pretty sure the translation Soka patat just means sack 2581 01:58:39.119 --> 01:58:42.640 of potatoes, which is very funny. I could be very wrong. 2582 01:58:42.680 --> 01:58:44.520 It's probably French speakers or like this. I mean, I 2583 01:58:44.600 --> 01:58:46.239 thought it was really funny. I say, let's keep that 2584 01:58:46.319 --> 01:58:47.880 from now. One that I put on there just because 2585 01:58:47.880 --> 01:58:49.760 I didn't know where else he would even be mentioned. 2586 01:58:50.079 --> 01:58:52.000 Is Deliver It All Costs. This is a weird thing 2587 01:58:52.000 --> 01:58:53.680 where it's like Kanami. I feel like, you know, we've 2588 01:58:53.720 --> 01:58:55.960 talked about this year because like wow, they're kind of 2589 01:58:56.039 --> 01:58:57.720 back with like you know, Silent Hill too and Miligar 2590 01:58:57.800 --> 01:59:00.000 Delton Silent Hill f They're kind of like, wow, they're 2591 01:59:00.119 --> 01:59:03.560 making games again. They also made this original game, Deliver 2592 01:59:03.600 --> 01:59:05.239 It All Costs that I think it was based on 2593 01:59:05.319 --> 01:59:07.720 like a demo or something, but it's just a goofy 2594 01:59:07.840 --> 01:59:11.880 ass isometric delivery game and it's just like, oh, I 2595 01:59:11.960 --> 01:59:15.600 gotta spray paint these watermelons and you know, resell them 2596 01:59:15.960 --> 01:59:17.640 because they were rotting, and so like it just a 2597 01:59:17.680 --> 01:59:20.319 lot of like very goofy scenarios where it's like I've 2598 01:59:20.319 --> 01:59:23.199 got I'm strapping a swordfish that's alive to my truck 2599 01:59:23.279 --> 01:59:24.800 and I have to drive it and keep it alive 2600 01:59:25.000 --> 01:59:27.079 and have it like drive through crates of fish on 2601 01:59:27.159 --> 01:59:29.079 the way to have it eat so it doesn't die. 2602 01:59:29.159 --> 01:59:33.800 And it's situationally, you know, very funny stuff. It there's 2603 01:59:33.880 --> 01:59:35.840 too much story in this game for what it is. 2604 01:59:36.840 --> 01:59:38.279 But I did like this game a lot. I didn't 2605 01:59:38.279 --> 01:59:39.800 know where else to mention it. I don't think it's 2606 01:59:39.800 --> 01:59:41.039 going to be in the top three here, I'm fine 2607 01:59:41.079 --> 01:59:48.079 cutting it, Okay, it's gone cool. Oh man destranding too, 2608 01:59:48.560 --> 01:59:49.479 So I. 2609 01:59:49.520 --> 01:59:51.720 Mean, looking at this, I think both Peak and Repo 2610 01:59:52.399 --> 01:59:54.920 are funny games, but I think Peak is funnier and 2611 01:59:55.199 --> 01:59:57.680 those I don't know not to I'm tired of the 2612 01:59:57.680 --> 01:59:59.880 friend slob term and everything, and that kind of reduces 2613 02:00:00.159 --> 02:00:01.319 what some of these games are. 2614 02:00:01.439 --> 02:00:04.279 But I feel like they are kind of related in 2615 02:00:04.359 --> 02:00:06.640 a way. And the comedy I hadn't Peak, I think 2616 02:00:06.760 --> 02:00:10.560 is so much funnier than they're close. I mean we 2617 02:00:10.640 --> 02:00:15.319 doing and like it changes your voice and stuff your control. 2618 02:00:16.159 --> 02:00:25.239 You was so funny, like barfing everywhere, Like it's pretty funny. Yeah, 2619 02:00:25.439 --> 02:00:26.680 that's funny. 2620 02:00:26.680 --> 02:00:28.680 We talked about proximity Chat with our creators, but didn't 2621 02:00:28.680 --> 02:00:30.640 mention it with Repo. Did they use the prox chat 2622 02:00:30.720 --> 02:00:31.159 for those. 2623 02:00:31.560 --> 02:00:33.840 I don't think we should compare similar genres and be 2624 02:00:33.920 --> 02:00:36.920 like it's one that's the funniest. Sure, I think I 2625 02:00:37.000 --> 02:00:40.039 think that it's possible friend slop will be the killer 2626 02:00:40.319 --> 02:00:43.840 for this genre because it is so funny what happens 2627 02:00:44.399 --> 02:00:47.640 in Repo, even when you're not trying to be funny. 2628 02:00:48.840 --> 02:00:50.800 Everything in there has a price. 2629 02:00:50.680 --> 02:00:53.800 And if you even if you dink it on a wall, 2630 02:00:54.039 --> 02:00:57.039 you lose like twenty bucks. It's funny when like Dan 2631 02:00:57.199 --> 02:01:00.119 is the only person left, none of us are there playing. 2632 02:00:59.880 --> 02:01:05.479 Alone, running around yelling Jake. Hell, you get a vase 2633 02:01:05.560 --> 02:01:07.520 and you dink it and you're just like ship chitch. Yeah, 2634 02:01:08.399 --> 02:01:11.319 she's like fun And so if you were not a 2635 02:01:11.399 --> 02:01:13.279 patron of the video tier, we did play this game 2636 02:01:13.359 --> 02:01:14.920 and put it up on our Patreon, so check it out. 2637 02:01:14.920 --> 02:01:17.960 That was a fun Yeah, yeah, I keep it so 2638 02:01:18.159 --> 02:01:20.119 if we're just talking like there's four proc chat games 2639 02:01:20.119 --> 02:01:22.319 on here, Peak Repo or be there yet and Arc Raiders, 2640 02:01:22.640 --> 02:01:25.159 I would say cut arc Raiders. There are definitely funny 2641 02:01:25.319 --> 02:01:29.600 things that happened in that game counts just because it was. 2642 02:01:29.760 --> 02:01:32.439 I think that's what makes it funny is it's so serious. 2643 02:01:32.800 --> 02:01:37.079 Have the stupidest like like the I think the I mean, 2644 02:01:37.119 --> 02:01:38.840 I guess I should rewatch the Repo thing to see 2645 02:01:38.840 --> 02:01:39.439 how funny it was. 2646 02:01:39.520 --> 02:01:41.760 But that thing, that clip we took out of Mike 2647 02:01:41.840 --> 02:01:43.680 with it, I don't endorse what he did. I think 2648 02:01:43.720 --> 02:01:48.880 that was bad. Yeah, I was mercy killing him. We 2649 02:01:48.960 --> 02:01:51.960 already riddled him with bullet holes. Another Patreon video we 2650 02:01:52.039 --> 02:01:55.680 did funny it's I did see some comments like, you 2651 02:01:55.680 --> 02:02:00.960 guys are ruining this game. This off they gave it. 2652 02:02:01.079 --> 02:02:06.760 That's without any uncivility, there cannot the civility cannot shine through. 2653 02:02:06.880 --> 02:02:10.760 I need to be the darkness that the light off 2654 02:02:10.880 --> 02:02:13.680 and anti morelity. 2655 02:02:13.720 --> 02:02:15.920 I teamed up with some random players and we're working 2656 02:02:15.960 --> 02:02:17.479 on like, hey, have you guys killed a leaper before? 2657 02:02:17.520 --> 02:02:19.000 And they're like no, I'm like, let's kill a leaper. 2658 02:02:19.079 --> 02:02:19.560 I'm like okay. 2659 02:02:19.880 --> 02:02:21.840 So we're like on a building and they're thinking they're 2660 02:02:21.880 --> 02:02:25.960 safe and it jumps up and they scream into Proximity Chat. Yeah, 2661 02:02:26.000 --> 02:02:29.159 one guy falls off, the thing hits the wall, tumbles down, 2662 02:02:29.560 --> 02:02:31.279 everyone scatters and we're screaming. 2663 02:02:31.319 --> 02:02:35.800 We don't know who's friendly or not, Like there is 2664 02:02:35.880 --> 02:02:36.720 something special about it. 2665 02:02:36.720 --> 02:02:40.840 And I think for me, why I love Proximity Chat 2666 02:02:40.920 --> 02:02:43.119 in that game is because that's what makes it funny 2667 02:02:43.199 --> 02:02:46.880 in my opinion, the interactions. I will say, though, there 2668 02:02:46.920 --> 02:02:49.640 are some really awful people that you might run into 2669 02:02:49.720 --> 02:02:52.439 that just sure, and that is not funny at all. 2670 02:02:52.520 --> 02:02:54.720 I do think some of the funniest moments I've seen 2671 02:02:54.840 --> 02:02:56.720 get like when I was playing on Giant Bond with 2672 02:02:56.840 --> 02:02:59.079 my sister Kayla and she scared off the entire team 2673 02:02:59.199 --> 02:03:01.399 just by like eating them into the mic. It's like, 2674 02:03:01.560 --> 02:03:03.600 that's one of the funniest things I've seen definitely this 2675 02:03:03.760 --> 02:03:05.600 year in games, and it's like they give you Like 2676 02:03:06.159 --> 02:03:09.439 I do think it's that dissonance between like how serious 2677 02:03:09.479 --> 02:03:11.680 the game is, like you mentioned, and how like just 2678 02:03:11.760 --> 02:03:13.560 funny these situations is random. 2679 02:03:13.319 --> 02:03:15.720 Players too, right, you know with Peek and Repo RV 2680 02:03:15.800 --> 02:03:17.760 there yet it's friends. So I think that adds an 2681 02:03:17.760 --> 02:03:20.920 element of predictability into like how they're gonna react. 2682 02:03:21.000 --> 02:03:22.960 What do we cut here? I know it's hard. 2683 02:03:23.000 --> 02:03:24.439 I mean I think we have to just think about, 2684 02:03:24.479 --> 02:03:28.439 like how funny these games are. I will I will 2685 02:03:28.520 --> 02:03:31.359 volunteer one. I think that r V There Yet is 2686 02:03:31.479 --> 02:03:34.600 so fucking funny. And watching your friends smoke SIGs while 2687 02:03:34.600 --> 02:03:36.600 they're like trying to figure out how to get an 2688 02:03:36.760 --> 02:03:39.960 RV through these mud pits is so This game is 2689 02:03:40.039 --> 02:03:41.479 so funny, you guys, And I put it on this 2690 02:03:41.600 --> 02:03:42.279 list for a reason. 2691 02:03:42.760 --> 02:03:43.760 I adore this game. 2692 02:03:43.840 --> 02:03:45.600 I remember one of my friends being like, I'm. 2693 02:03:45.439 --> 02:03:48.520 Gonna go Scout Ahead, running back from the woods, going 2694 02:03:48.560 --> 02:03:52.319 bear bear bear bear bear, Like a bear just rips 2695 02:03:52.399 --> 02:03:52.880 them apart. 2696 02:03:53.439 --> 02:03:55.079 This game is so so good. 2697 02:03:56.720 --> 02:03:59.640 These all can't freaking win. And I don't think r 2698 02:03:59.760 --> 02:04:02.399 V Area Yet is as funny. I will fight to 2699 02:04:02.439 --> 02:04:04.159 the death. I think Peak is one of the funniest 2700 02:04:04.199 --> 02:04:06.600 goddamn games I've played all year. I had the best 2701 02:04:06.760 --> 02:04:11.359 memories of of like my life this year playing Peak 2702 02:04:11.399 --> 02:04:13.600 with my friends, Like that is so important to me. 2703 02:04:13.800 --> 02:04:15.840 That one I will fight for. But I can't fight 2704 02:04:15.920 --> 02:04:16.520 for all of these. 2705 02:04:16.760 --> 02:04:18.800 There's something so funny about Peak, where it's just like 2706 02:04:18.880 --> 02:04:20.880 you know your friends like maybe a little ahead of you, 2707 02:04:21.079 --> 02:04:22.800 and then all of a sudden, like they're making a 2708 02:04:22.880 --> 02:04:24.479 jump and they just miss and you watch them die 2709 02:04:24.479 --> 02:04:30.079 and you're like, Okay, well sorry, I gotta keep going, 2710 02:04:30.119 --> 02:04:31.399 and they're like bleeding out down. 2711 02:04:31.279 --> 02:04:33.000 There, and we're talking about proximity chat. 2712 02:04:33.079 --> 02:04:34.680 It's so funny hearing someone go. 2713 02:04:36.000 --> 02:04:40.159 And then and then ahead and they're just like it's like, hey, 2714 02:04:40.560 --> 02:04:43.119 have you seen so and so, like, oh, they're dead. 2715 02:04:45.000 --> 02:04:46.039 Do we cut babies? Yes? 2716 02:04:46.119 --> 02:04:48.439 I was gonna say, like, I think that game's frustrations 2717 02:04:48.439 --> 02:04:50.159 start getting in the way in the comedy real. 2718 02:04:50.119 --> 02:04:52.399 No, I do think that, like the actual way they 2719 02:04:52.439 --> 02:04:55.000 recorded the dialogue and everything, like when Bennet Fatti shows up, 2720 02:04:55.039 --> 02:04:57.399 and like some of that dialogue is like awkward in 2721 02:04:57.479 --> 02:05:00.319 a way, and we're kind of realistic in a way 2722 02:05:00.399 --> 02:05:04.479 the games writing typically isn't. It's just weird and abstract 2723 02:05:04.600 --> 02:05:06.000 in a way. That made me laugh quite a bit. 2724 02:05:06.159 --> 02:05:08.520 But I don't know the game itself. I didn't like 2725 02:05:08.600 --> 02:05:09.600 enough to keep playing. 2726 02:05:09.479 --> 02:05:13.399 So like, it's very funny the idea of like this 2727 02:05:13.520 --> 02:05:15.720 person being like you sure you don't want this map? 2728 02:05:15.960 --> 02:05:17.319 The game would be a lot easier, and the guys 2729 02:05:17.399 --> 02:05:19.439 like I don't want it, and he's like you sure, 2730 02:05:19.520 --> 02:05:20.359 and I'm. 2731 02:05:20.359 --> 02:05:23.720 The player, I'm like, please give me the please give 2732 02:05:23.760 --> 02:05:24.000 it to me. 2733 02:05:24.359 --> 02:05:27.079 I think that's funny having the camera be like kind 2734 02:05:27.119 --> 02:05:31.960 of ass focused and it's just this sweaty ass, sweaty 2735 02:05:32.079 --> 02:05:32.800 fat ass. 2736 02:05:32.840 --> 02:05:33.880 Trying to get through these things. 2737 02:05:34.199 --> 02:05:35.920 It's a very funny game. 2738 02:05:36.720 --> 02:05:39.960 But I think collectively we probably all agree we didn't 2739 02:05:40.279 --> 02:05:44.319 love playing this game. And for me, there are games 2740 02:05:44.359 --> 02:05:48.079 that I would fight for more, so it was I 2741 02:05:48.159 --> 02:05:50.520 think it's it was meant to be extremely funny and 2742 02:05:50.640 --> 02:05:52.039 it works for so many people. 2743 02:05:52.680 --> 02:05:54.439 I don't like playing it, but I like watching other 2744 02:05:54.479 --> 02:05:57.840 people play it. Okay. I also like, I think Kingdom 2745 02:05:57.880 --> 02:05:59.920 Come Delivers can probably go. Can I just say that? 2746 02:06:00.000 --> 02:06:01.520 So, Like, I mean, I know you're gonna cut it, 2747 02:06:01.600 --> 02:06:04.640 but like I would just say, like the idea that 2748 02:06:04.720 --> 02:06:08.720 we have we're cutting Baby Steps, and like, are we 2749 02:06:08.800 --> 02:06:11.520 sure we're gonna cut it? Before Death Stranding him, I 2750 02:06:11.640 --> 02:06:14.399 was just gonna like, yeah, Baby Steps is funnier than 2751 02:06:14.439 --> 02:06:15.000 those games. 2752 02:06:15.399 --> 02:06:18.840 I don't know, Like Death Stranding two is really filled 2753 02:06:18.880 --> 02:06:20.880 with that kind of very weird kaJama humor that I 2754 02:06:20.920 --> 02:06:24.880 always have been a sucker for, Like doll Man's fucking funny. 2755 02:06:25.520 --> 02:06:27.640 Uh Like, I think I've told the story before about 2756 02:06:27.640 --> 02:06:29.399 how like the little things they program in where it's 2757 02:06:29.439 --> 02:06:31.680 like he was mid sentenced and I started getting waist 2758 02:06:31.800 --> 02:06:33.800 high in water and he's hanging off my belt and 2759 02:06:33.960 --> 02:06:35.439 all of a sudden, his voice like, hey, Sam, you 2760 02:06:35.479 --> 02:06:39.399 should go that. I like started laughing at this preview 2761 02:06:39.439 --> 02:06:41.600 event in Japan, playing like God, that's so fucking funny. 2762 02:06:41.760 --> 02:06:44.520 Yeah, I think laughing out loud is something we should 2763 02:06:44.560 --> 02:06:48.119 talk about. Like I thought there were funny jokes in 2764 02:06:48.159 --> 02:06:51.039 Clare Obscure. It's not very often that I laughed out 2765 02:06:51.159 --> 02:06:52.399 loud and was like that. 2766 02:06:53.000 --> 02:06:53.880 Hurts my sides. 2767 02:06:54.159 --> 02:06:56.479 There are games on this list where I was crying 2768 02:06:56.600 --> 02:06:58.359 because I was laughing so hard, And I think, if 2769 02:06:58.439 --> 02:07:00.279 it didn't do that, then we have to start. 2770 02:07:00.680 --> 02:07:02.000 We have to start taking an ax to it. 2771 02:07:02.079 --> 02:07:04.760 I think Kingdom Come Deliverance two falls in the same category. 2772 02:07:05.079 --> 02:07:07.079 It's like, you're in a lot of funny situations, but 2773 02:07:07.159 --> 02:07:08.359 I'm not like Belly laughing. 2774 02:07:09.399 --> 02:07:11.159 But I didn't play a whole lot. 2775 02:07:11.119 --> 02:07:13.800 Of it either, So maybe that's like an we cut it. 2776 02:07:14.560 --> 02:07:17.479 I would cut both of those. They have funny moments, 2777 02:07:17.520 --> 02:07:18.920 for sure, but so we're down. 2778 02:07:20.520 --> 02:07:22.920 I think I think we should cut tet stranding too. 2779 02:07:23.119 --> 02:07:26.439 I don't think it's that like splitting sides funny. 2780 02:07:26.520 --> 02:07:28.560 I don't how much did you play of it? Not 2781 02:07:28.720 --> 02:07:34.880 a lot? Sixty hours and I didn't laugh. I agree 2782 02:07:34.880 --> 02:07:35.119 with Dan. 2783 02:07:35.159 --> 02:07:36.960 There's many moments where I was like, this, that's really 2784 02:07:37.039 --> 02:07:40.960 fucking funny, and also like the pizza dough stuff is. 2785 02:07:41.399 --> 02:07:43.359 Initially I'm like that's funny, but then the more I 2786 02:07:43.359 --> 02:07:45.039 saw it, the more I'm like, this is actually stupid, 2787 02:07:45.199 --> 02:07:47.359 and like this is just cutting room floor the game, 2788 02:07:47.680 --> 02:07:48.560 like you know, in a. 2789 02:07:51.039 --> 02:07:51.239 Something. 2790 02:07:51.319 --> 02:07:53.760 I'm not blaming the people who like I just don't 2791 02:07:53.800 --> 02:07:58.399 think it's as I think the real humor in games 2792 02:07:58.439 --> 02:08:01.520 for this year for me was game the games where 2793 02:08:01.640 --> 02:08:03.640 we had the tools to be funny as people, and 2794 02:08:03.760 --> 02:08:05.920 then they were just kind of amplifying that. 2795 02:08:06.880 --> 02:08:09.079 I'm fine cutting us training too, Like, yeah, this this 2796 02:08:09.319 --> 02:08:11.960 was a hell of a year for prox chat and Mary. 2797 02:08:12.239 --> 02:08:14.560 Your judgment on this, I very much you, because I 2798 02:08:14.640 --> 02:08:15.640 know you've played the most of these. 2799 02:08:15.800 --> 02:08:19.119 The idea of like your side splitting, you're losing your 2800 02:08:19.159 --> 02:08:21.119 mind because you're laughing so much. That happened to me 2801 02:08:21.239 --> 02:08:24.079 in Arc Repo and Peak. These are the funniest goddamn 2802 02:08:24.159 --> 02:08:27.000 games of the year. Like bar nun I will die 2803 02:08:27.079 --> 02:08:29.880 on this hill. I think that these are all winners, 2804 02:08:30.479 --> 02:08:32.640 and they're winners in different ways. 2805 02:08:34.039 --> 02:08:36.760 Repo is designed to make you laugh. It is designed 2806 02:08:36.920 --> 02:08:39.279 to have a funny. 2807 02:08:39.079 --> 02:08:44.000 There's a duck that looks yeah and then grows giant 2808 02:08:44.079 --> 02:08:46.880 teeth and eats you. These things are meant to elicit 2809 02:08:47.000 --> 02:08:48.720 funny responses from your friends. 2810 02:08:49.119 --> 02:08:53.199 Yeah, I think I think Repo. Okay, I think Peak 2811 02:08:53.279 --> 02:08:55.560 might be a better game. Yeah, I think Repo might 2812 02:08:55.600 --> 02:08:56.119 be funnier. 2813 02:08:56.279 --> 02:08:59.600 Yeah, it's when everybody else is dead and we're all watching, 2814 02:09:00.399 --> 02:09:02.720 like hiding under a table as the ducks or circling. 2815 02:09:02.439 --> 02:09:04.840 The tables play Somebody Is Anybody? 2816 02:09:07.439 --> 02:09:09.479 N and Philip heads and say that's supposed to be 2817 02:09:09.520 --> 02:09:10.720 funny in a way Arc Raiders is. 2818 02:09:10.840 --> 02:09:13.760 I don't think it's intentionally funny, tending to be funny, 2819 02:09:14.239 --> 02:09:15.039 funny because. 2820 02:09:14.840 --> 02:09:17.039 We're funny people, like I'm I'm the funniest person I know. 2821 02:09:17.239 --> 02:09:18.880 That's why our Raiders is funny to me. But like 2822 02:09:19.039 --> 02:09:21.880 Peak and Repo, I think I think Repo is definitely 2823 02:09:21.920 --> 02:09:25.199 just not yeah, all right, well, Fire escapes game that 2824 02:09:25.319 --> 02:09:29.119 is actually funny is Repo, and the runner ups were Peak. 2825 02:09:29.000 --> 02:09:31.359 And Arc Raiders excellent. 2826 02:09:31.560 --> 02:09:36.159 And the next category is a new game that most 2827 02:09:36.479 --> 02:09:38.159 seems like an old game. 2828 02:09:38.239 --> 02:09:40.800 It's an important distinction there. It's not best game that 2829 02:09:40.880 --> 02:09:42.840 seems like an old game. This is new game that 2830 02:09:43.079 --> 02:09:44.720 most seems like an old game. 2831 02:09:44.800 --> 02:09:46.880 Yeah, if you watched last year, or if you watched 2832 02:09:46.880 --> 02:09:48.119 all of our game of the years, we changed the 2833 02:09:48.159 --> 02:09:49.800 wording there because it was getting it. 2834 02:09:49.960 --> 02:09:52.279 Why that like we picked one and it's like, well, 2835 02:09:52.319 --> 02:09:54.760 we're saying that that's better like that kind of yeah. Anyway, 2836 02:09:54.880 --> 02:09:55.920 and all of these are good. 2837 02:09:56.119 --> 02:09:59.239 This is about embracing an old. 2838 02:09:59.159 --> 02:10:01.960 Game, bringing the feeling back of an older game, and 2839 02:10:02.359 --> 02:10:06.199 reviving nostalgia. The good good Go ahead nominees. Then your 2840 02:10:06.279 --> 02:10:09.760 guide in Rage Bound and you go in four Tainted Grail, 2841 02:10:09.920 --> 02:10:15.199 The Fall of Avalon Shanobi, Art of Vengeance, Luminous Arise, 2842 02:10:15.640 --> 02:10:20.720 Once Upon a Katamari Metroid Prime four Beyond Lego Party. 2843 02:10:20.840 --> 02:10:23.399 Luminous Rise. Didn't we have that on there? 2844 02:10:24.800 --> 02:10:29.640 Kirby air Riders, Oh boy, does Kirby air Riders look 2845 02:10:29.720 --> 02:10:31.680 like an old game? No, this most seems like an 2846 02:10:31.720 --> 02:10:34.479 old game. Yea, So it's one of that feels most 2847 02:10:34.560 --> 02:10:36.600 like you remember an old game feeling. 2848 02:10:36.720 --> 02:10:38.720 I think the weird thing about Kirby A Riders is 2849 02:10:38.800 --> 02:10:42.920 like it is very similar to that original, but I 2850 02:10:43.079 --> 02:10:44.560 just every once in a while I kind of really 2851 02:10:44.600 --> 02:10:47.479 see him again, like oh yeah, yeah, he's talking. 2852 02:10:47.800 --> 02:10:47.960 Uh. 2853 02:10:48.920 --> 02:10:50.640 But but I think no other game has really done 2854 02:10:50.680 --> 02:10:53.640 with Kirby Air Ride. There's has done since then, so 2855 02:10:53.720 --> 02:10:56.319 it's like, I don't know, it just feels like Kirby 2856 02:10:56.359 --> 02:10:59.000 Air Riders, I guess, or Kirby Air Ride, but it's 2857 02:10:59.359 --> 02:11:01.760 more polished. I mean, does it feel like how you 2858 02:11:01.920 --> 02:11:05.439 remember playing the old GameCube game, Yes, but I mean 2859 02:11:05.479 --> 02:11:09.479 it feels better, like it is a more complete, better 2860 02:11:09.680 --> 02:11:12.279 like it is. It has that Sacharai polish that I 2861 02:11:12.279 --> 02:11:14.600 guess was in the original, but like it feels like 2862 02:11:15.520 --> 02:11:18.119 a fallow up to Smash Bros. I I it makes 2863 02:11:18.159 --> 02:11:20.920 sense to be in this category, but I don't know 2864 02:11:20.960 --> 02:11:23.039 if we'd cut it right away, but I think if 2865 02:11:23.199 --> 02:11:25.359 it's coming down to it, I think that could be 2866 02:11:25.479 --> 02:11:26.640 one that might make sense. 2867 02:11:26.960 --> 02:11:29.079 I think an easy cut. And I also think it 2868 02:11:29.119 --> 02:11:31.359 might be the best game on this list is Shanoby 2869 02:11:31.880 --> 02:11:35.119 because it's using the IP but it's like it is 2870 02:11:35.319 --> 02:11:38.399 just too polished and modern feeling, and it's like it 2871 02:11:38.560 --> 02:11:42.000 is kind of Shanoby in name only and the fact 2872 02:11:42.000 --> 02:11:43.199 that you're a ninja. You know. 2873 02:11:43.319 --> 02:11:45.720 It's it's also like just gorgeous in a way that 2874 02:11:45.880 --> 02:11:47.640 like I don't think reminds me of anything old. 2875 02:11:47.680 --> 02:11:49.399 It actually looks like a new Yeah, it doesn't feel 2876 02:11:49.399 --> 02:11:51.119 like a Justice game by any means, so I think 2877 02:11:51.119 --> 02:11:54.039 we can cut that. But yeah, I also it's one 2878 02:11:54.079 --> 02:11:56.840 of the better games this list. Same with Radbound, I 2879 02:11:56.840 --> 02:11:57.880 would say, same with Ragebound. 2880 02:11:58.119 --> 02:11:58.479 I don't know. 2881 02:11:58.680 --> 02:12:01.760 Rage Bound feels classic. 2882 02:12:02.000 --> 02:12:06.920 That sprite art is very modern sprite art. I mean 2883 02:12:07.199 --> 02:12:09.199 maybe like Saturn had some detailed stuff like that, but 2884 02:12:09.359 --> 02:12:12.399 like the old Ninja Guiden games certainly didn't look or 2885 02:12:12.439 --> 02:12:14.359 feel like in the same way as I was saying Shinobe. 2886 02:12:14.439 --> 02:12:16.680 It just kind of feels modern like some of those mechanics, 2887 02:12:16.720 --> 02:12:20.760 and definitely the spright art it feels more modern to me. 2888 02:12:21.439 --> 02:12:24.399 What about Ninja Gaiden for that, I think feels a 2889 02:12:24.479 --> 02:12:27.039 lot like I remember those old the Xbox Ninja Gaiden 2890 02:12:27.119 --> 02:12:29.920 is feeling because everyone just has that weird like action 2891 02:12:30.119 --> 02:12:34.119 figure plastic kind of slick. Everything just looks wet and 2892 02:12:34.199 --> 02:12:36.479 plastic in a way that I remember, like playing that 2893 02:12:36.600 --> 02:12:40.359 two thousand and four to one mic Okay got really excited. Yeah, 2894 02:12:41.920 --> 02:12:45.319 And the way it feels it, it feels like just 2895 02:12:45.560 --> 02:12:48.039 one of those, you know, the stylish action genre as 2896 02:12:48.079 --> 02:12:50.359 we used to call it a game and former like 2897 02:12:50.479 --> 02:12:53.199 it straight from the mid two thousands. It doesn't really 2898 02:12:53.279 --> 02:12:55.560 feel like they added a lot. There are new mechanics 2899 02:12:55.600 --> 02:12:57.359 and stuff in it, like that we'd blood raven mode 2900 02:12:57.439 --> 02:12:59.239 or whatever, but like that feels like something that could 2901 02:12:59.239 --> 02:13:01.600 have been in an Guiden game in two thousand and six, 2902 02:13:01.680 --> 02:13:04.039 two thousand and seven or whatever, you know, So I 2903 02:13:04.079 --> 02:13:05.239 wouldn't cut that quite yet. 2904 02:13:06.319 --> 02:13:09.439 Uh taintan grail can probably that's when I put in 2905 02:13:09.520 --> 02:13:12.920 But it is like a Skyrim. They basically did what 2906 02:13:13.000 --> 02:13:17.359 Bethesda did but made it. I'd hesitate to say better, 2907 02:13:17.439 --> 02:13:21.079 but it's probably a more interesting game because we've seen 2908 02:13:21.119 --> 02:13:24.039 Skyrim so many times. But I think I'm the only 2909 02:13:24.039 --> 02:13:25.319 one who played it, and I didn't play a whole 2910 02:13:25.319 --> 02:13:29.079 lot of it. But it scratches that Skyrim mitch in 2911 02:13:29.119 --> 02:13:31.840 a way that I'm like, yeah, I've I recognized this. 2912 02:13:32.239 --> 02:13:34.199 I think an interesting thing. The way to think about 2913 02:13:34.199 --> 02:13:36.439 this is like if one of these games had been 2914 02:13:36.560 --> 02:13:39.920 released era era appropriate and you're playing back on a 2915 02:13:39.960 --> 02:13:42.000 CRT or like Luminous, if you're playing on a PSP, 2916 02:13:42.079 --> 02:13:44.199 would you even bat an eye you know? Or does 2917 02:13:44.239 --> 02:13:46.279 it just feel like it is from that era that 2918 02:13:46.359 --> 02:13:47.720 it's kind of going back to you know what I mean, 2919 02:13:47.760 --> 02:13:49.680 It's like Lego Party. I think I would cut because 2920 02:13:49.720 --> 02:13:52.560 Lego Party feels like a modern Mario Party. It feels snappier, 2921 02:13:52.640 --> 02:13:54.439 it feels like there's quality of life and stuff that 2922 02:13:54.560 --> 02:13:57.680 the Mario Party series never had. That's fair, No, we 2923 02:13:57.760 --> 02:14:01.119 can about that. No, No, I'm not sure about that. 2924 02:14:01.800 --> 02:14:04.800 I think it feels it's too good to feel like 2925 02:14:04.840 --> 02:14:09.399 an old Mario Party game. Yeah. Whereas like, yeah, think 2926 02:14:09.439 --> 02:14:11.800 about like Kirbyer writers, like you know, Jake, if we 2927 02:14:12.000 --> 02:14:14.439 travel back in time to you in a couple of 2928 02:14:14.479 --> 02:14:16.520 years after the first Kirby aer writers came out and 2929 02:14:16.600 --> 02:14:18.640 gave that to you on a GameCube disc, would you 2930 02:14:18.680 --> 02:14:20.439 be like, this seems like it's from the future or 2931 02:14:20.479 --> 02:14:21.199 would it seem. 2932 02:14:21.119 --> 02:14:23.600 Like no, it would it would be like, oh, wow, 2933 02:14:23.640 --> 02:14:26.720 they made a sequel to Kirby Yeah, it feels ra appropriate. 2934 02:14:26.880 --> 02:14:30.439 Yeah, Yeah, that's why I would say cut raid found 2935 02:14:30.479 --> 02:14:32.560 I think I mean if You're back to the days 2936 02:14:32.600 --> 02:14:34.960 of two D and Ninja Guid and that would feel weird. 2937 02:14:35.039 --> 02:14:37.520 What about so this is one that I think only 2938 02:14:37.600 --> 02:14:40.239 you have really played, Dan, I've played a couple hours. 2939 02:14:40.279 --> 02:14:43.399 But Metroid Prime flour Beyond. I see that here it 2940 02:14:44.479 --> 02:14:47.840 it feels a lot like it could have been a 2941 02:14:47.880 --> 02:14:49.119 sequel to Metroid Prime one. 2942 02:14:49.880 --> 02:14:54.279 I do think is this the right category for it. 2943 02:14:54.399 --> 02:14:58.960 I don't think it is. It's there's a it's such 2944 02:14:58.960 --> 02:15:02.000 a weird one because graphically it kind of looks the 2945 02:15:02.039 --> 02:15:04.239 way I remember Metroid Prime one looking back then, even 2946 02:15:04.239 --> 02:15:06.960 though I know it's a lot higher fidelity, But nothing 2947 02:15:07.000 --> 02:15:09.119 about the design of it is anything that couldn't have 2948 02:15:09.159 --> 02:15:14.359 been done on the game cube. You know, Uh, I 2949 02:15:14.399 --> 02:15:19.640 would cut Katamari or over Metroid. I think so Katamari 2950 02:15:19.680 --> 02:15:22.279 has gotten these online features and co op and stuff 2951 02:15:22.319 --> 02:15:23.880 that the old ones said. I like, it adds stuff 2952 02:15:23.920 --> 02:15:26.880 like the Yeah, it's it's got like co op modes 2953 02:15:26.920 --> 02:15:30.479 and stuff. It doesn't. It's added stuff that like PS 2954 02:15:30.520 --> 02:15:39.199 two games didn't have. We've got we need to cut one. 2955 02:15:39.199 --> 02:15:42.560 We've got Ninja Gidding four, Luminous Arise, Metroid Prime four Beyond, 2956 02:15:42.640 --> 02:15:46.800 Kirby aer Riders, I did say I think kirbyer Writers 2957 02:15:46.880 --> 02:15:50.000 is probably like on the on the chopping block, it's 2958 02:15:50.119 --> 02:15:51.439 really if it comes down to it. 2959 02:15:51.520 --> 02:15:53.119 I think I would fight for a Ninja Guide in 2960 02:15:53.279 --> 02:15:55.880 for I think it's a good fit for this category. 2961 02:15:56.039 --> 02:15:59.640 It belongs here. I think it's up Okay, I think 2962 02:15:59.720 --> 02:16:01.800 Loom this is very much like again that could have 2963 02:16:01.800 --> 02:16:03.960 come out on the PSP. And do we think it's 2964 02:16:04.000 --> 02:16:06.000 two thousand and six prime in where it could be 2965 02:16:06.000 --> 02:16:07.960 in this category? Two? Do you think it's between prime 2966 02:16:07.960 --> 02:16:09.239 in air Writers for That's. 2967 02:16:09.119 --> 02:16:11.960 What I'm trying to say. Yeah, it's like we know 2968 02:16:12.079 --> 02:16:14.840 they're ones able to cut. Well, I'm saying these are 2969 02:16:14.880 --> 02:16:17.119 two that are locks, so they're not up for discussion, 2970 02:16:17.199 --> 02:16:18.039 but we have to cut one. 2971 02:16:18.199 --> 02:16:20.479 I think Kirby air Riders have a lot of stuff, 2972 02:16:20.640 --> 02:16:23.159 like you know the online city Trials mode. 2973 02:16:23.279 --> 02:16:25.479 Yeah, the online I think is a good example of 2974 02:16:25.600 --> 02:16:27.439 like they didn't do that, you know, like yeah it 2975 02:16:27.560 --> 02:16:30.520 was Yeah, I think that's yeah. 2976 02:16:30.760 --> 02:16:32.440 I think Kirby aer Writers. I kind of think the 2977 02:16:32.479 --> 02:16:34.239 one I would pick to win this would be Luminous 2978 02:16:34.280 --> 02:16:37.159 Arise because it's like, obviously the resolution is much better, 2979 02:16:37.239 --> 02:16:39.399 but like if you put those down on PSP in 2980 02:16:39.399 --> 02:16:40.959 two thousand and six, two thousand and seven and told 2981 02:16:41.000 --> 02:16:42.799 me it was just the sequel to Luminous and took 2982 02:16:42.840 --> 02:16:44.479 it back to me in college. I'd be like, sweet, 2983 02:16:44.639 --> 02:16:46.120 I wouldn't Batny, you know. I mean, I think you're 2984 02:16:46.159 --> 02:16:47.600 the only one who's played all three of these, so 2985 02:16:48.280 --> 02:16:53.360 I would say Luminous, Okay, Luminous all right. 2986 02:16:54.079 --> 02:16:57.040 The runner ups are Ninja Gaiden four and Metroid Prime four. 2987 02:16:57.159 --> 02:17:00.280 Beyond new game that most seems like an old game 2988 02:17:00.319 --> 02:17:02.920 winner is Luminous Arise. 2989 02:17:03.680 --> 02:17:06.280 Right, Wait the runner up? Would you say? The runner up? 2990 02:17:06.319 --> 02:17:09.760 I did figuring out the format here how I want? Yeah? 2991 02:17:10.360 --> 02:17:11.760 Runners up first, like three. 2992 02:17:11.639 --> 02:17:15.239 Hours into the show is it's a living document. We 2993 02:17:15.399 --> 02:17:19.440 have next category who I'm looking forward to? This most 2994 02:17:19.799 --> 02:17:25.000 up its own ass. Your nominees are Blueprints, Baby Steps, 2995 02:17:25.280 --> 02:17:30.639 Split Fiction, Wander Stop, Dispatch, Mike Maharty. You just want 2996 02:17:30.680 --> 02:17:31.440 to give it to Mike and move on. 2997 02:17:31.719 --> 02:17:33.799 Yeah, I mean, he's a shoe in, But I think 2998 02:17:33.840 --> 02:17:36.239 we can talk about why we think some of these 2999 02:17:36.280 --> 02:17:37.440 are up their own ass. 3000 02:17:37.559 --> 02:17:40.040 We put me on here specifically because there's a game 3001 02:17:40.120 --> 02:17:46.399 called Hegante and Jake said, like Giant, We're like, I 3002 02:17:46.479 --> 02:17:51.360 think it's age. I'm just speaking for forty three million Americans. Sorry, 3003 02:17:51.840 --> 02:17:54.280 but uh. And then I also said FATA level thinking 3004 02:17:54.360 --> 02:17:57.520 at some point to describe a post that's not it 3005 02:17:59.799 --> 02:18:03.760 today like this, Actually, Dan was the winner last year. 3006 02:18:04.000 --> 02:18:06.680 I remember when last year it's like, oh, it was 3007 02:18:06.760 --> 02:18:09.000 me somehow, Dan one. 3008 02:18:09.200 --> 02:18:11.639 I think there's a lot that we can say for 3009 02:18:11.959 --> 02:18:13.879 so many of these, and we should get into it 3010 02:18:13.959 --> 02:18:16.000 a little bit. I think they all have reasons to 3011 02:18:16.079 --> 02:18:19.079 be on here. Blueprints has an arrogance to it. 3012 02:18:19.360 --> 02:18:20.159 It just really. 3013 02:18:21.559 --> 02:18:24.280 I feel like charming, and like, yeah, I felt it 3014 02:18:24.319 --> 02:18:26.799 was charming in Earnest, Like yeah, at the beginning, it's like, 3015 02:18:27.440 --> 02:18:28.559 thank you so much for coming home. 3016 02:18:28.920 --> 02:18:31.159 You inherited the mansion. There's a lot you learn about it. 3017 02:18:31.239 --> 02:18:33.239 And then past that, I was like, it always felt 3018 02:18:33.360 --> 02:18:36.159 very cozy to me almost in the storytelling, and I 3019 02:18:36.200 --> 02:18:36.680 think it's. 3020 02:18:36.600 --> 02:18:39.440 Totally fitting for just kind of this mystery and the 3021 02:18:39.520 --> 02:18:41.319 backstory of this, like you know, kingdom and things like 3022 02:18:41.360 --> 02:18:43.159 that in the house itself, and like, I don't know, 3023 02:18:43.559 --> 02:18:45.440 to me, it all just kind of fit. It felt right. 3024 02:18:45.719 --> 02:18:49.760 Yeah, I think there's more aggressors on here, but I 3025 02:18:49.840 --> 02:18:53.040 think there there were times when I felt like that 3026 02:18:53.200 --> 02:18:55.360 game smelled its own farts. 3027 02:18:57.479 --> 02:19:00.239 Yeah, I don't know. I like this and I'm kind 3028 02:19:00.239 --> 02:19:00.920 of with Mary here. 3029 02:19:01.200 --> 02:19:03.760 Yeah, I think it gets a bit up its own ass, 3030 02:19:03.799 --> 02:19:06.399 but I don't know if it's further up its own ass. 3031 02:19:06.280 --> 02:19:06.719 Than some of these. 3032 02:19:06.959 --> 02:19:09.760 There's worse contenders, and I would actually even say it 3033 02:19:09.840 --> 02:19:12.239 can be deleted. I'm just saying I think it deserved 3034 02:19:12.280 --> 02:19:14.920 to be on here, but I think there are ones. 3035 02:19:15.000 --> 02:19:18.760 That are silk Song on here, like the more right here. 3036 02:19:18.799 --> 02:19:21.399 Everybody talks some song should be on this list. It 3037 02:19:21.639 --> 02:19:24.920 wasn't on here. You had a chance out there. 3038 02:19:25.280 --> 02:19:31.600 Just putting it out there. Uh yeah, Blueprints sometimes was 3039 02:19:31.760 --> 02:19:36.440 full of itself, but I think it earned it. I 3040 02:19:36.479 --> 02:19:38.920 would agree. I think we could strike that. Okay, let's 3041 02:19:38.959 --> 02:19:39.120 get that. 3042 02:19:39.159 --> 02:19:40.799 I want I want to hear the argument from Baby 3043 02:19:40.840 --> 02:19:43.479 Steps to stay on or take for why it's up 3044 02:19:43.520 --> 02:19:45.600 atone ass because it's not my favorite game. But like 3045 02:19:46.280 --> 02:19:48.159 I was more just kind of like laughing at it 3046 02:19:48.239 --> 02:19:49.920 than like when I think of like uptone ass, I 3047 02:19:49.959 --> 02:19:51.760 think of like pretentious. I'm kind of rolling my eyes. 3048 02:19:51.959 --> 02:19:54.360 I think it was when Chris Plant described Baby Steps 3049 02:19:54.399 --> 02:19:56.719 that I started thinking it was pretentious. It might not 3050 02:19:56.799 --> 02:20:00.440 be the game no No. Chris Plant always has a 3051 02:20:00.479 --> 02:20:02.959 way of like, describe me a game away. I haven't 3052 02:20:02.959 --> 02:20:04.639 thought of it before, so I think that was just 3053 02:20:04.719 --> 02:20:05.479 maybe why. 3054 02:20:05.479 --> 02:20:11.520 You're like new ideas pretentious. Yay, exactly, I don't. I 3055 02:20:11.600 --> 02:20:13.319 haven't played enough of Babies. I feel like I've heard 3056 02:20:13.360 --> 02:20:15.360 some people talk about like there's that final like man 3057 02:20:15.479 --> 02:20:18.760 breaker thing where it's like, here's this crazy mountain that 3058 02:20:18.799 --> 02:20:20.799 you have to climb and it's just the stupid thing. 3059 02:20:20.799 --> 02:20:22.200 You got to beat your head against time and time 3060 02:20:22.200 --> 02:20:23.840 again and you fall down everything. But then the game 3061 02:20:23.959 --> 02:20:26.200 gives you like an easy staircase you can use to 3062 02:20:26.239 --> 02:20:28.680 get to the top. And I feel like I saw 3063 02:20:28.799 --> 02:20:30.719 some like Blue Sky chatter like wow, this is like 3064 02:20:30.719 --> 02:20:33.479 a real meta commentary on gaming and how like should 3065 02:20:33.520 --> 02:20:35.799 we take the easy route? And it also extends to 3066 02:20:35.959 --> 02:20:38.280 like life choices like do we take the easy We're 3067 02:20:38.360 --> 02:20:40.680 so quick to take the easy route. There's a star 3068 02:20:40.879 --> 02:20:43.040 staircase right there. Just accept help and you can go 3069 02:20:43.200 --> 02:20:45.280 up it. Don't make it harder. I don't know. You're 3070 02:20:45.280 --> 02:20:46.520 a guy in the onesie if you want to climb 3071 02:20:46.520 --> 02:20:47.399 the mountain or up. 3072 02:20:47.319 --> 02:20:51.520 The stairs, up his butt this which is why, Yeah, 3073 02:20:51.520 --> 02:20:54.079 it balances out. I think in a way that at 3074 02:20:54.159 --> 02:20:56.200 least for the two hours I tried the game, it worked. 3075 02:20:56.799 --> 02:20:58.600 I just didn't is the game of. 3076 02:20:58.680 --> 02:21:00.840 Its own ass or is it just people playing it 3077 02:21:00.920 --> 02:21:03.079 and needing stuff to sayd Blue sp That's connected. 3078 02:21:02.719 --> 02:21:08.079 Because if you're interpreting art as this like unbelievable existential 3079 02:21:08.200 --> 02:21:11.440 experience but ultimately or just this like dude who keeps 3080 02:21:11.520 --> 02:21:13.239 falling downstairs. 3081 02:21:12.639 --> 02:21:15.639 Into wet wet mud, I question. 3082 02:21:16.920 --> 02:21:19.680 Genuinely how much you extrapolated from that experience and how 3083 02:21:19.760 --> 02:21:21.680 much you put your own thoughts into it and said, 3084 02:21:21.719 --> 02:21:23.079 this is a really deep experience. 3085 02:21:23.159 --> 02:21:24.319 And that's what I think is. I think it is 3086 02:21:24.360 --> 02:21:26.559 a lot of people that just wanted stuff to say 3087 02:21:26.600 --> 02:21:27.600 I'm Blue Sky or which is. 3088 02:21:27.600 --> 02:21:29.159 Cool that I can like speak to people in that way. 3089 02:21:29.319 --> 02:21:30.959 So I don't know that it makes the game up 3090 02:21:31.000 --> 02:21:31.879 its own ass though. 3091 02:21:32.079 --> 02:21:34.239 That's the thing. I'm arguing that, like, I don't know, 3092 02:21:34.280 --> 02:21:35.920 it's not my favorite game this year, but like I 3093 02:21:35.959 --> 02:21:38.840 didn't think of it as pretentious. You know, Yeah, I 3094 02:21:38.879 --> 02:21:41.239 think maybe some people in Blue Sky are pretentious. But yeah, 3095 02:21:41.440 --> 02:21:44.040 so we cutting it or should we talk about the 3096 02:21:44.079 --> 02:21:45.879 other ones first? I think we could cut that. What 3097 02:21:46.000 --> 02:21:48.319 the fuck is Wonder Wonder Stop. Wander Stop is the 3098 02:21:48.399 --> 02:21:58.959 game where you make tea. Okay, no, actually I know 3099 02:21:59.000 --> 02:22:00.680 what you're talking about now. Actually did seem to have 3100 02:22:00.719 --> 02:22:02.840 a really good aesthetic and everything. I really wanted to 3101 02:22:03.000 --> 02:22:03.639 like this game. 3102 02:22:04.399 --> 02:22:06.760 I really like the concept of meeting people and they're like, 3103 02:22:06.959 --> 02:22:09.360 I need to be I'm stressed, so I need to 3104 02:22:09.399 --> 02:22:11.399 be relaxed. But I also need to be able to 3105 02:22:11.479 --> 02:22:13.639 process serious thoughts, and so I'm like, okay, I need 3106 02:22:13.680 --> 02:22:15.280 to tee. That relaxes you, but it also allows you 3107 02:22:15.360 --> 02:22:17.000 to process difficult thinking. 3108 02:22:17.280 --> 02:22:17.879 What does that? Is? 3109 02:22:17.920 --> 02:22:19.680 You to find herbs. There's a book where you like 3110 02:22:19.799 --> 02:22:20.719 find what herbs. 3111 02:22:20.520 --> 02:22:21.079 Would suit them. 3112 02:22:21.680 --> 02:22:23.959 Mike, you and I played this game ages ago where 3113 02:22:24.000 --> 02:22:26.840 we like had to concoct specific herbs into. 3114 02:22:29.239 --> 02:22:32.280 Oh strange horticulture, yeah or no the same year. 3115 02:22:32.440 --> 02:22:34.600 There's two of them that were really so similar. 3116 02:22:34.799 --> 02:22:35.920 Alchemists or potions. 3117 02:22:36.000 --> 02:22:39.680 Some potions, potion, alchemists whatever, So you had to brew 3118 02:22:39.799 --> 02:22:41.399 these potions to solve issues. 3119 02:22:41.520 --> 02:22:43.479 And I love games like that. So I was like, 3120 02:22:43.520 --> 02:22:44.479 I can't wait to play this. 3121 02:22:46.079 --> 02:22:50.200 But this game is very talky, and you would go 3122 02:22:50.440 --> 02:22:53.120 through ten pages of dialogue about how this person was 3123 02:22:53.200 --> 02:22:56.000 like going through all this drama in their life and 3124 02:22:56.040 --> 02:22:58.319 they've really lost touch with their sister, but they like 3125 02:22:58.600 --> 02:23:01.479 do love their mom, and they they also would like 3126 02:23:01.520 --> 02:23:03.600 a sweet tea that has jasmine. And it's just like, 3127 02:23:03.639 --> 02:23:07.600 all right, Like what am I doing here? And I 3128 02:23:07.920 --> 02:23:10.600 found that I was spending so much more time listening 3129 02:23:10.680 --> 02:23:14.120 to people and determining their trauma and trying. 3130 02:23:13.920 --> 02:23:16.120 To solve very serious issues. 3131 02:23:16.159 --> 02:23:18.760 And this game makes an effort to say, hey, we're 3132 02:23:18.760 --> 02:23:23.719 solving serious issues, but ultimately I'm I'm I'm just a 3133 02:23:23.840 --> 02:23:26.719 tea brewer here, Like I can't solve all this stuff. 3134 02:23:27.239 --> 02:23:30.920 I didn't feel sold that I had agency to fix 3135 02:23:31.000 --> 02:23:32.840 these things. I felt like I was just giving them 3136 02:23:32.879 --> 02:23:34.159 a cup of tea. And then they were like, I 3137 02:23:34.319 --> 02:23:36.760 am back, baby, and then ran out the door. And 3138 02:23:36.799 --> 02:23:38.360 I was like, I don't know if it earned that. 3139 02:23:38.479 --> 02:23:39.559 I don't know if it earned it. I don't know 3140 02:23:39.559 --> 02:23:42.319 if they I needed all this backstory. Your own character 3141 02:23:42.399 --> 02:23:43.520 as well, and this is why I put it on 3142 02:23:43.559 --> 02:23:47.840 this list. Your own character has your own trauma. You're 3143 02:23:47.959 --> 02:23:50.360 like a warrior, but you don't want to fight anymore, 3144 02:23:50.479 --> 02:23:54.719 so you're making tea and it gives you these options 3145 02:23:54.799 --> 02:23:59.959 as a character. When someone says do you like, you know, 3146 02:24:00.239 --> 02:24:02.280 do you like what you're doing here? And like making tea, 3147 02:24:02.360 --> 02:24:05.200 and your three options would be something like, no, I 3148 02:24:05.319 --> 02:24:07.040 don't like it because I want to be a warrior. 3149 02:24:07.079 --> 02:24:09.239 It would be like, yes, but I miss being a warrior, 3150 02:24:09.280 --> 02:24:10.559 and the third one would be like, I have so 3151 02:24:10.680 --> 02:24:12.799 much trauma, but Tea's fine, And I'm like, all of 3152 02:24:12.879 --> 02:24:15.360 these are awful, and none of these give me an 3153 02:24:15.440 --> 02:24:19.280 identity that's different. They're all you forced me to be 3154 02:24:20.159 --> 02:24:22.840 a sad person that wishes that they were a warrior 3155 02:24:23.360 --> 02:24:24.360 and has. 3156 02:24:24.280 --> 02:24:24.959 To now make tea. 3157 02:24:25.079 --> 02:24:27.879 So anyway, I feel like it belongs here because it 3158 02:24:27.959 --> 02:24:31.120 didn't allow me to grow, it didn't allow me to 3159 02:24:31.120 --> 02:24:32.719 express myself, and it didn't allow me to solve any 3160 02:24:32.719 --> 02:24:35.159 of these problems. I felt like I was on a 3161 02:24:35.760 --> 02:24:37.399 I felt like I was on a train. I did 3162 02:24:37.479 --> 02:24:39.319 not want to be on you guys, and I could 3163 02:24:39.399 --> 02:24:40.600 not get off, so I quit. 3164 02:24:41.079 --> 02:24:43.840 Like ky, you said it's about tea, and immediate we're like, okay, 3165 02:24:43.879 --> 02:24:44.520 I should be on the. 3166 02:24:47.200 --> 02:24:47.319 Here. 3167 02:24:47.399 --> 02:24:49.600 That's good a context because now I'm like okay, yeah, 3168 02:24:50.120 --> 02:24:51.879 but I feel there is a certain like you could 3169 02:24:51.879 --> 02:24:53.840 have described a game where you make tea and it's 3170 02:24:53.879 --> 02:24:55.600 like the most merry shit ever and you love it, 3171 02:24:55.719 --> 02:24:57.159 so I think the fact that it rubbed you the 3172 02:24:57.200 --> 02:24:59.799 wrong way is kind of damning of maybe the tone. 3173 02:25:00.840 --> 02:25:05.360 Top one thing that I think we can cut is Dispatch. 3174 02:25:05.639 --> 02:25:08.440 I know, Dan, you suggested it going here because it's 3175 02:25:08.479 --> 02:25:09.520 three things you don't like. 3176 02:25:10.040 --> 02:25:11.639 But I don't know if I even suggested this. I 3177 02:25:11.760 --> 02:25:13.879 just think this, that's the game I would most hate. 3178 02:25:13.920 --> 02:25:16.040 For sure, this I think, yeah, I think you most 3179 02:25:16.120 --> 02:25:18.280 hate it, but yeah it is. I mean there's like 3180 02:25:18.360 --> 02:25:21.959 dick jokes almost immediately, like it is a very like 3181 02:25:22.399 --> 02:25:26.440 come like there's a lot of uh like humor that 3182 02:25:26.559 --> 02:25:29.920 y that's Marvel type humor no no, no, no okay 3183 02:25:30.000 --> 02:25:34.959 type first episode at least, and it's not even snarky. 3184 02:25:35.040 --> 02:25:37.159 It's I think the writing is really good in this game, 3185 02:25:37.319 --> 02:25:40.200 but like it's not up its own ass. I think 3186 02:25:40.239 --> 02:25:43.840 they're aware of they're they're they're doing the whole like 3187 02:25:44.879 --> 02:25:48.159 superhero thing without being annoying about it. And also but 3188 02:25:48.280 --> 02:25:51.360 they're also tearing down the superhero thing without being like, oh, 3189 02:25:51.440 --> 02:25:54.040 we're gonna dissect superhero fiction. But like they kind of 3190 02:25:54.159 --> 02:25:56.799 are in a very grounded way, which I appreciate, but 3191 02:25:56.879 --> 02:25:58.760 I don't give a shit about superheroes and they I 3192 02:25:58.840 --> 02:26:02.079 think they know that it's it's reached its last legs, 3193 02:26:02.799 --> 02:26:05.200 but yeah, I don't know. Like that team's still really 3194 02:26:05.200 --> 02:26:07.920 good at writing a lot of stuff, and I think 3195 02:26:07.959 --> 02:26:09.920 they distanced themselves from the material enough. 3196 02:26:10.079 --> 02:26:11.840 But even like I'd say, compared to like some of 3197 02:26:11.879 --> 02:26:14.559 the tell Tale games that I have played, it felt 3198 02:26:14.600 --> 02:26:17.360 like those games are trying to answer much bigger questions 3199 02:26:17.559 --> 02:26:20.399 than this, And you know, with the Telltale games, I 3200 02:26:20.399 --> 02:26:22.520 think it's pretty hit or miss. Like sometimes I was like, Okay, 3201 02:26:22.639 --> 02:26:24.520 you came to you know, this is interesting, But I 3202 02:26:24.879 --> 02:26:27.440 think Dispatch kind of knows what it is and it 3203 02:26:27.840 --> 02:26:30.360 tells that story and you know, you may look at 3204 02:26:30.399 --> 02:26:31.840 it and think it sucks, but I don't think it. 3205 02:26:32.920 --> 02:26:35.040 It doesn't. It doesn't stream up its own ass to me, 3206 02:26:35.479 --> 02:26:38.760 and I think we cut it. I did add one here, Okay, 3207 02:26:40.760 --> 02:26:42.040 argument we're adding that. 3208 02:26:42.159 --> 02:26:45.079 Can we add Hollow Night Silk Song if we're already 3209 02:26:45.120 --> 02:26:47.200 adding one, I think there needs to be the one 3210 02:26:47.280 --> 02:26:47.719 that's like. 3211 02:26:48.319 --> 02:26:53.760 The most up its own on Mike mahrty I and 3212 02:26:53.959 --> 02:26:55.520 silk Song or you want to talk about Tester. I 3213 02:26:55.719 --> 02:26:57.239 think we're going to add silk Song, but I want 3214 02:26:57.239 --> 02:27:01.920 to hear Jake's argument for dester Hnning. First, did you 3215 02:27:02.000 --> 02:27:04.319 play the same game? I did? Oh my, here's the thing. 3216 02:27:04.399 --> 02:27:07.040 I think it is significantly less up its own ass 3217 02:27:07.120 --> 02:27:09.799 than the first game. The first game took itself way 3218 02:27:09.959 --> 02:27:12.520 more seriously. This is the one where it's like, like 3219 02:27:12.600 --> 02:27:14.440 we're gonna talk a little bit of spoilers and stuff. 3220 02:27:14.639 --> 02:27:18.159 It's like it's ending with like guitar battles against you know, 3221 02:27:19.000 --> 02:27:22.200 Tory Baker Joker, while a giant fucking baby comes out 3222 02:27:22.239 --> 02:27:23.879 of the sky and farts and eats you or whatever. 3223 02:27:23.959 --> 02:27:26.200 It's just like there's a little doll man that's on it. 3224 02:27:26.360 --> 02:27:28.280 Like it is a goofy game. This is a silly 3225 02:27:28.360 --> 02:27:31.440 game that is reveling in its goofiness. Sure, it definitely 3226 02:27:31.479 --> 02:27:35.000 has it's like Kajima, you know, just kind of like ponderous, 3227 02:27:35.239 --> 02:27:37.319 you know, Oh, I'm saying really deep stuff right now. 3228 02:27:37.639 --> 02:27:39.520 Like it's got moments of that where it's like, all right, 3229 02:27:39.559 --> 02:27:43.280 settled down Kajima. But overall, I think it is more 3230 02:27:43.440 --> 02:27:46.319 fun than it is up its own ass, you know, 3231 02:27:47.200 --> 02:27:48.639 with even like story wise. 3232 02:27:49.879 --> 02:27:51.760 I don't know if I have a good risk because 3233 02:27:51.760 --> 02:27:55.159 I played sixty hours of that game, and I don't 3234 02:27:55.239 --> 02:27:59.520 remember much of it, so like, I just I don't know, Jim, 3235 02:27:59.600 --> 02:28:00.840 I'm tired of Kajima's writing. 3236 02:28:00.879 --> 02:28:04.520 I think it's kind of where I'm at. But you know, yeah, 3237 02:28:04.600 --> 02:28:06.959 I just think I just remember thinking it was silly 3238 02:28:07.280 --> 02:28:11.239 more than it was pretentious, you know, And it definitely 3239 02:28:11.239 --> 02:28:13.200 can get pretentious, but the first one was a much 3240 02:28:13.200 --> 02:28:13.879 bigger offender. 3241 02:28:14.559 --> 02:28:16.479 I think you could be silly and still up your 3242 02:28:16.520 --> 02:28:20.639 own ass though, Like, yeah, I think that game is 3243 02:28:20.719 --> 02:28:24.959 up its own ass because like agreed, try being the 3244 02:28:25.000 --> 02:28:27.120 person that tells Kadima not to put something in a game. 3245 02:28:28.079 --> 02:28:28.399 I don't. 3246 02:28:28.840 --> 02:28:31.719 I I think it's less deathstreating too is and it's 3247 02:28:31.760 --> 02:28:34.120 more the people who made it sure are up their 3248 02:28:34.120 --> 02:28:36.920 own ass, like oh so like yeah, there are editors 3249 02:28:37.000 --> 02:28:39.760 for a reason, and like that game is the cutting 3250 02:28:39.840 --> 02:28:43.200 room floor of video games to me, And I love this. 3251 02:28:43.440 --> 02:28:44.040 I love this game. 3252 02:28:44.159 --> 02:28:46.840 This is in my top it almost is in my 3253 02:28:46.879 --> 02:28:48.280 top ten, Like I like it quite a bit, but 3254 02:28:48.399 --> 02:28:52.159 like I don't. I just don't think silly and pretentious 3255 02:28:52.239 --> 02:28:52.799 are mutually. 3256 02:28:53.360 --> 02:28:55.760 Yeah, it doesn't prevent you from being up your own 3257 02:28:55.879 --> 02:28:58.399 it doesn't, I think ultimately, though, you speaking of pretentious, 3258 02:28:58.399 --> 02:29:00.200 I think it's it's the American dream, right, Lar. I 3259 02:29:00.200 --> 02:29:03.399 think it's the white pick and fins. It's Yeah. For 3260 02:29:03.440 --> 02:29:06.280 those who don't know, read Mike Maharty's Polygon review of 3261 02:29:06.559 --> 02:29:08.520 Death Stranding, which maybe this is the point from Mike 3262 02:29:08.600 --> 02:29:09.479 Maharty on this list. 3263 02:29:10.399 --> 02:29:14.559 You want to make that big a little bigger, Timmy 3264 02:29:14.600 --> 02:29:16.000 says something pretentious. 3265 02:29:17.639 --> 02:29:19.520 Split three, Yeah, Mary, I think you are the one 3266 02:29:19.559 --> 02:29:22.639 who the pretentious are lame. I think it's pretty lame that. 3267 02:29:22.920 --> 02:29:25.639 Comes up to and we have to separate those two. 3268 02:29:25.959 --> 02:29:28.920 But like most of its own ass is something that 3269 02:29:29.120 --> 02:29:30.239 is kind of insisting that. 3270 02:29:30.280 --> 02:29:35.360 It's really good and obvious that we're supposed to really 3271 02:29:35.559 --> 02:29:35.760 like it. 3272 02:29:36.520 --> 02:29:39.120 I sometimes I'm always shocked by how much when I 3273 02:29:39.239 --> 02:29:43.600 play these games, these co op games, I feel like 3274 02:29:43.639 --> 02:29:47.000 it's telling me, Wow, this is so inventive, it's so incredible, 3275 02:29:47.040 --> 02:29:48.399 and I'm like, but a lot of these are really 3276 02:29:48.559 --> 02:29:52.680 basic principles that you're applying. It is awesome to play 3277 02:29:52.680 --> 02:29:55.440 a game with another person, and I've enjoyed playing split 3278 02:29:55.520 --> 02:29:57.920 fiction with a co op person and going through it, 3279 02:29:58.319 --> 02:30:01.799 but so often I'm like, this is really basic mechanic. 3280 02:30:01.920 --> 02:30:05.360 This is a really simplified system, and you've dulled it up, 3281 02:30:05.479 --> 02:30:08.920 or you've made the pigs fart rainbows, like ha ha, 3282 02:30:09.159 --> 02:30:11.799 this is a hot dog random. A lot of times 3283 02:30:11.840 --> 02:30:13.559 I'm actually like, oh, I didn't think that was that 3284 02:30:13.719 --> 02:30:14.879 innovative or interesting. 3285 02:30:15.120 --> 02:30:18.559 I'm trying not to be like too down on it. 3286 02:30:18.760 --> 02:30:20.920 I just didn't. I didn't buy what it was selling. 3287 02:30:21.000 --> 02:30:23.559 A lot. I think those games, I think those studios 3288 02:30:23.760 --> 02:30:28.000 is that studio is incredible at making mechanically impressive, very 3289 02:30:28.200 --> 02:30:31.399 imaginative co op games. But the way I don't want 3290 02:30:31.399 --> 02:30:33.719 to paint the whole studio with a pressure. It's Joseph Ferris. 3291 02:30:34.040 --> 02:30:35.760 The way he talks about this stuff is like he's 3292 02:30:35.799 --> 02:30:37.959 acting like he's creating the greatest video games of all time. 3293 02:30:38.000 --> 02:30:39.840 He did an interview with Ben Hansen where he was 3294 02:30:39.879 --> 02:30:41.920 basically saying like I would basically say this is as 3295 02:30:41.959 --> 02:30:44.000 good as Super Metroid and was like, oh dude, come on. 3296 02:30:44.559 --> 02:30:47.719 It's like so, I think he is extremely up his 3297 02:30:47.760 --> 02:30:49.239 own ass. But I don't want to paint the whole. 3298 02:30:49.360 --> 02:30:51.840 But the game itself is just like it insists upon 3299 02:30:51.879 --> 02:30:55.040 itself in a way where I think it thinks it's 3300 02:30:55.079 --> 02:30:58.319 punching above it. I think it thinks it's more important 3301 02:30:58.440 --> 02:31:00.879 and more innovative than it is. Very good, go up. 3302 02:31:01.040 --> 02:31:03.559 Sometimes the dialogue as well, like the two girls will 3303 02:31:03.559 --> 02:31:05.159 be like, you know what's really the problem. 3304 02:31:05.879 --> 02:31:10.319 It's this corporation and they're taking ideas. Man, wow, what 3305 02:31:10.520 --> 02:31:11.559 a crazy idea. 3306 02:31:11.760 --> 02:31:15.680 Yeah, yeah, it's not that innovative, but they really it's 3307 02:31:15.719 --> 02:31:18.520 such a simplified concept that they focus on is like 3308 02:31:19.159 --> 02:31:19.920 very important. 3309 02:31:20.079 --> 02:31:22.959 So yeah, the story is just so just like black 3310 02:31:23.000 --> 02:31:25.440 and white, like up nearest corporation. They're stealing ideas and 3311 02:31:25.479 --> 02:31:27.920 we're the authors. Now we're going to play through her creations. 3312 02:31:27.959 --> 02:31:30.079 It's like, all right, I understand where this is like 3313 02:31:30.079 --> 02:31:32.879 a children's book level of like totally, and that's fine 3314 02:31:32.959 --> 02:31:33.120 for me. 3315 02:31:33.239 --> 02:31:35.639 It is for children in that regard, and in that case, 3316 02:31:35.719 --> 02:31:37.719 I would I would respect it as like, I see 3317 02:31:37.760 --> 02:31:39.520 what you know what your audience is. But I'm actually 3318 02:31:39.600 --> 02:31:43.079 not confident that I know who split fictions audiences. It's 3319 02:31:43.159 --> 02:31:46.479 usually like person and others the audience. They're trying to 3320 02:31:46.479 --> 02:31:47.840 make it as broad as possible, I think. 3321 02:31:47.879 --> 02:31:50.280 I think I think all four of us here don't 3322 02:31:50.280 --> 02:31:52.959 necessarily get into like the family game genre. I know 3323 02:31:53.079 --> 02:31:55.040 a lot anecdotally, I know a lot of people who 3324 02:31:55.159 --> 02:31:59.879 find those games this and it takes too. It takes 3325 02:32:00.079 --> 02:32:03.040 to being like very valuable for playing with partners who 3326 02:32:03.040 --> 02:32:06.280 don't play video games, or playing with children or I'm 3327 02:32:06.280 --> 02:32:09.399 not saying that makes it. What's that? Who cares about 3328 02:32:09.440 --> 02:32:11.600 like kids? We don't. That's not our I know. 3329 02:32:11.840 --> 02:32:13.680 I'm just putting it out there. I'm just saying, that's 3330 02:32:13.719 --> 02:32:15.239 what you said. You don't know who it's for, is like, 3331 02:32:15.440 --> 02:32:17.200 it's not for this podcast. But I do think there 3332 02:32:17.280 --> 02:32:18.399 is an audience, right. 3333 02:32:18.799 --> 02:32:20.319 Yeah, I mean I get it. I get why there's 3334 02:32:20.319 --> 02:32:22.239 an audience. I get why they're successful and stuff like that. 3335 02:32:22.479 --> 02:32:26.920 I don't really get what we got. We got a 3336 02:32:26.959 --> 02:32:31.399 cat for the audio listeners. We we have a major 3337 02:32:31.479 --> 02:32:34.399 cat situation happening for the audio listener. Yeah, I don't know. 3338 02:32:34.479 --> 02:32:36.719 I like slip picture. I might like slip fiction more 3339 02:32:36.799 --> 02:32:40.360 than anyone at this table, but I also kind of 3340 02:32:40.840 --> 02:32:49.440 am annoyed by the whole deal. Oh Jesus, this is 3341 02:32:49.520 --> 02:32:56.319 more important sorry, audio listener, cat's entire head and the US. 3342 02:32:58.040 --> 02:33:01.520 All right, uh so we need to cut one. I 3343 02:33:01.639 --> 02:33:04.280 am okay just cutting death straining because I did add 3344 02:33:04.319 --> 02:33:05.760 it last minute. I would like to cut it. 3345 02:33:05.879 --> 02:33:09.639 I will say, did you guys see that story where 3346 02:33:09.879 --> 02:33:14.639 uh dest straining was getting too good of metacritics. 3347 02:33:14.360 --> 02:33:17.559 Or people to know the preview, the early preview things 3348 02:33:17.559 --> 02:33:19.159 where like people like this too much. It needs to 3349 02:33:19.200 --> 02:33:21.120 be more polarizing, Like, yes, I don't know. That is 3350 02:33:21.440 --> 02:33:23.879 absolutely pretentious, but it's also that ship that I love 3351 02:33:23.879 --> 02:33:26.639 about Kagima. It's oh, bless you for this, like yeah, 3352 02:33:26.680 --> 02:33:32.920 but like knows on about it, but I'm a mark 3353 02:33:33.000 --> 02:33:35.680 for anything. It is a Kajima people like I'm an 3354 02:33:35.719 --> 02:33:37.879 Nintendo mark and I'm sure I love Nintendo stuff, but 3355 02:33:38.040 --> 02:33:40.000 like Kajima is kind of the one guy where's like 3356 02:33:40.040 --> 02:33:41.760 he will do objectively annoying things and I'll be like, 3357 02:33:42.000 --> 02:33:42.559 that guy's great. 3358 02:33:42.760 --> 02:33:46.079 Maybe we should change death Stranding too to Kojima, and 3359 02:33:46.200 --> 02:33:50.840 maybe we should change Split Fiction to Joseph Faris just people. 3360 02:33:51.079 --> 02:33:53.319 We're just change at least two people. I like this. Yes, 3361 02:33:53.600 --> 02:33:56.040 let's do it. Just take out what fiction put Joseph 3362 02:33:56.079 --> 02:33:56.959 Ferris and. 3363 02:33:56.959 --> 02:34:01.440 Then wander stop because it has moments. But it wasn't 3364 02:34:01.520 --> 02:34:02.440 that annoying all right, So. 3365 02:34:02.520 --> 02:34:04.719 It has turned into who is most up their own 3366 02:34:04.799 --> 02:34:10.399 ass Joseph Ferris, Mike Mahardy or Headeo Kajima Mike Mahrty, 3367 02:34:11.120 --> 02:34:14.319 Mike Mahrty, can I make a case for striking? I 3368 02:34:14.360 --> 02:34:16.879 don't know. I feel we have a vote going on here. 3369 02:34:16.959 --> 02:34:18.680 Fortunately the crowd has spoken. 3370 02:34:19.079 --> 02:34:21.639 Yeah, yeah, it's gotten pretty big. I don't know how 3371 02:34:21.680 --> 02:34:23.879 that happened, but I think I just can't really Wow. Yeah, 3372 02:34:24.280 --> 02:34:25.559 got too big. I think we got a lot of that. 3373 02:34:26.040 --> 02:34:29.000 Yeah, most of its own ass is Mike Mahrty and 3374 02:34:29.120 --> 02:34:32.280 runner up Sir Kajim and Josephairs team chair Michael. 3375 02:34:34.079 --> 02:34:37.600 All right, next up? Oh yeah, Team Cherry. Yeah we 3376 02:34:37.639 --> 02:34:38.319 should have been on there. 3377 02:34:39.280 --> 02:34:39.719 We've moved on. 3378 02:34:40.000 --> 02:34:45.479 Next category is Lamous Tone. Your nominees are Quarterlands four, 3379 02:34:46.079 --> 02:34:51.000 Dying Light, The Beast, Megabank, Split Fiction, Call of Duty, 3380 02:34:51.040 --> 02:34:53.159 Black Ops seven. I'm gonna start. 3381 02:34:53.479 --> 02:34:55.840 I think we all know why we put Megabank on here, 3382 02:34:55.879 --> 02:34:57.799 which is that it says stuff like when you lose, 3383 02:34:57.879 --> 02:34:58.799 It says stuff. 3384 02:34:58.600 --> 02:35:02.200 Like maybe skilly she Yeah, it has. 3385 02:35:02.120 --> 02:35:04.600 Internet humor that doesn't land and I actually really don't 3386 02:35:04.680 --> 02:35:07.040 like when memes are in games like that. But the 3387 02:35:07.120 --> 02:35:09.760 game is so damn good I am willing to let 3388 02:35:09.840 --> 02:35:09.959 it go. 3389 02:35:10.159 --> 02:35:11.799 I would go a step further. I also think it 3390 02:35:11.799 --> 02:35:13.840 should be cut. I'm not saying I like the humor. 3391 02:35:14.520 --> 02:35:16.760 I think there's a reason it's in this game, which 3392 02:35:16.840 --> 02:35:19.479 this game was designed it. Like I there's a very 3393 02:35:19.680 --> 02:35:24.959 real sense that they are making a like very bad looking, 3394 02:35:25.680 --> 02:35:28.959 like almost memeable game in a way that like I again, 3395 02:35:29.000 --> 02:35:29.959 I don't laugh at that game. 3396 02:35:30.040 --> 02:35:30.879 I love that game. 3397 02:35:31.319 --> 02:35:33.399 But the game is so good and it's easy to overlook. 3398 02:35:33.799 --> 02:35:35.639 I do think there's a purpose for putting it in there. 3399 02:35:35.639 --> 02:35:37.920 I would rather not be there, but I think it's 3400 02:35:37.959 --> 02:35:41.799 a game where, like again, you're flying through the air 3401 02:35:41.959 --> 02:35:45.319 with like dual revolvers and sniper rifles and your jump 3402 02:35:45.440 --> 02:35:47.680 is like six hundred percent and it's just a bear. 3403 02:35:47.639 --> 02:35:50.159 Like skateboarding skeleton es skateboarding skeleton. 3404 02:35:50.399 --> 02:35:53.799 It's like it's already like the wrapping is so meaningless, 3405 02:35:53.879 --> 02:35:55.079 and I think they acknowledge that. 3406 02:35:55.360 --> 02:35:58.040 I don't. I don't know why, Like I'm not saying 3407 02:35:58.079 --> 02:35:59.840 that's the reason they did it for me, like kind 3408 02:35:59.879 --> 02:36:03.079 of fits. They're kind of clever with it, Like it's 3409 02:36:03.079 --> 02:36:05.959 like the Chad character. Chad, he's just like a beeping guy. 3410 02:36:06.079 --> 02:36:10.920 His his skill is aura And it's like I don't 3411 02:36:11.159 --> 02:36:13.239 like that humor at all. I hate it, but I 3412 02:36:13.319 --> 02:36:17.120 think there's like it. There's a it's intentional here. Yeah, 3413 02:36:17.719 --> 02:36:19.799 it's not just there for force spoken to connect with 3414 02:36:19.840 --> 02:36:23.120 the kids. It's not Steve Buscemi with the skateboard. 3415 02:36:23.239 --> 02:36:25.479 It is like, we know what kind of game we're making, 3416 02:36:25.559 --> 02:36:28.200 and we know it's actually really intelligent under this the hood, 3417 02:36:28.920 --> 02:36:31.879 but on the surface, it's a really fucking dumb game. 3418 02:36:31.959 --> 02:36:33.440 And I think they lean into that in a way 3419 02:36:33.479 --> 02:36:37.719 that it's like the humor almost just it's it's part 3420 02:36:37.760 --> 02:36:43.639 and parcel with Chad and the skateboarding skeleton and a 3421 02:36:43.760 --> 02:36:45.879 bush with a sniper rifle sticking out of it with 3422 02:36:46.120 --> 02:36:46.719 googly eyes. 3423 02:36:46.799 --> 02:36:48.399 I honestly, I do kind of like it. Like I 3424 02:36:48.520 --> 02:36:49.799 I like it so much more of the way it 3425 02:36:49.959 --> 02:36:51.559 is than I would if it was just like generic 3426 02:36:51.639 --> 02:36:53.920 fantasy trope like here's the Night, here's the Wizard, here's 3427 02:36:53.959 --> 02:36:55.920 the you know, like that's a pass. Yeah, I say, 3428 02:36:56.000 --> 02:36:57.280 we take it off. Yeah. 3429 02:36:57.399 --> 02:36:59.319 I thought I would hate it way more than I did, 3430 02:36:59.360 --> 02:37:01.680 and all I like, forget it's there until I die. 3431 02:37:01.680 --> 02:37:04.000 It's like him dead. Maybe skill isssue like yeah, yeah, 3432 02:37:04.239 --> 02:37:04.879 tapping through it. 3433 02:37:04.959 --> 02:37:08.719 I don't know. Man, Black Ops seven is fucking lame, 3434 02:37:08.879 --> 02:37:11.399 but it's lame and kind of that ex just a 3435 02:37:11.479 --> 02:37:14.559 little worse version of the Stave Frosty who like that 3436 02:37:14.680 --> 02:37:17.120 type of it's not fun to talk about how lame 3437 02:37:17.200 --> 02:37:19.120 it is, you know. It's just like, yeah, it's just 3438 02:37:19.200 --> 02:37:21.200 like it's a bad call of duty. It's it's not 3439 02:37:21.719 --> 02:37:24.000 anything we haven't seen before, you know, whereas like I 3440 02:37:24.040 --> 02:37:26.760 think if we're talking that type of lame tone dying 3441 02:37:26.920 --> 02:37:28.479 like the Beast, I don't know how much you've seen 3442 02:37:28.520 --> 02:37:30.079 of that. But even like the name of the main 3443 02:37:30.200 --> 02:37:32.239 character and what this fucking guy looks like. I think 3444 02:37:32.239 --> 02:37:34.280 it's like Kyle Crane or something, and he's just the 3445 02:37:34.319 --> 02:37:38.639 most like just like just generic looking, angry protagonist dude. 3446 02:37:39.079 --> 02:37:43.280 And just the whole tone is just this very Eastern 3447 02:37:43.360 --> 02:37:46.520 European You're just badass dudes, We're good. Like it's just 3448 02:37:46.600 --> 02:37:51.280 like no sense of like there's no sense of self 3449 02:37:51.319 --> 02:37:53.799 awareness of it. You feel like people, the people making 3450 02:37:53.799 --> 02:37:55.719 it were just kind of like this is a badass man, 3451 02:37:56.079 --> 02:37:57.680 you know, and it's like, oh God, you just watched 3452 02:37:57.680 --> 02:37:59.319 this and it's just the lamest. 3453 02:37:59.000 --> 02:38:01.440 Like it's a bummer because lights a sick game. 3454 02:38:01.719 --> 02:38:04.120 The first the first game, the first game was the 3455 02:38:04.200 --> 02:38:06.760 first game is good and second game started dipping its 3456 02:38:06.799 --> 02:38:08.879 toes into this kind of storytelling, and I've tried so 3457 02:38:09.040 --> 02:38:10.680 hard to like too many many times. 3458 02:38:11.159 --> 02:38:14.639 The Beast I did not play, but I sat through 3459 02:38:15.000 --> 02:38:16.879 SGF like one hour demo of this and it was like, 3460 02:38:16.959 --> 02:38:19.159 oh boy, this is a this is just a real 3461 02:38:19.440 --> 02:38:21.520 lame tone. I haven't played it. 3462 02:38:21.639 --> 02:38:24.879 Just keep in mind that whatever we cut like then 3463 02:38:24.920 --> 02:38:26.879 it's just not the Yeah, it's it's our runner up. 3464 02:38:26.920 --> 02:38:28.639 I would cut out of these because I think Dying 3465 02:38:28.719 --> 02:38:30.879 Light and Call of Duty Black Ops seven we are 3466 02:38:31.000 --> 02:38:34.120 talking about two different games with the same type of 3467 02:38:34.280 --> 02:38:37.479 just like the military you who were tone or whatever. 3468 02:38:37.799 --> 02:38:40.840 I think Black Ops seven is. We've seen this before 3469 02:38:41.239 --> 02:38:42.040 before you do that. 3470 02:38:42.239 --> 02:38:43.879 We have not discussed Borderlands for. 3471 02:38:44.959 --> 02:38:47.600 I think that is lamer and like it is toned down. 3472 02:38:47.799 --> 02:38:49.840 It is certainly toned down from the like Borderlands three, 3473 02:38:50.440 --> 02:38:54.120 uh you know, humor or whatever. But it still feels 3474 02:38:54.239 --> 02:38:56.799 like a relic. Uh you know. It definitely feels more 3475 02:38:56.840 --> 02:38:58.280 modern than three did in a lot of ways, from 3476 02:38:58.360 --> 02:39:00.120 gameplay to open world and all that stuff. And the 3477 02:39:00.200 --> 02:39:03.520 villains are not uh streamammers. Yeah, that's the thing. It 3478 02:39:03.680 --> 02:39:06.959 is less lame. It's maybe fifty percent as lame as 3479 02:39:07.000 --> 02:39:10.239 Borderlands three. But Borderlines three is like short list like 3480 02:39:10.399 --> 02:39:12.399 lamest game of all time, you know. 3481 02:39:12.920 --> 02:39:16.479 I would say Borderlines four also is very very contingent 3482 02:39:16.600 --> 02:39:19.879 upon which character you're playing, as there are certain characters 3483 02:39:19.920 --> 02:39:22.680 that use more of that that kind of humor, but. 3484 02:39:23.000 --> 02:39:24.520 But it still doesn't like even at the beginning when 3485 02:39:24.559 --> 02:39:26.719 it's doing the very border Lands like freeze frame, here's 3486 02:39:26.760 --> 02:39:29.639 this person, here's she's a freaking witch, and it's just 3487 02:39:29.719 --> 02:39:33.600 like cut up. It's so fucking it still has enough 3488 02:39:33.680 --> 02:39:35.319 of that. Or I'm like, h like I think I'm 3489 02:39:35.319 --> 02:39:39.120 like audibly like like sighing as you know, yeah, it 3490 02:39:39.280 --> 02:39:41.280 was like call of duty. He's like, man, whatever is stupid? 3491 02:39:41.479 --> 02:39:44.600 You know. Okay, so it's call of duty, we think. 3492 02:39:44.639 --> 02:39:46.959 I then we could call of duty, yeah, which would 3493 02:39:47.000 --> 02:39:49.639 marry Mike. Yeah, I'm okay with it. 3494 02:39:49.760 --> 02:39:52.559 As long as Split Fiction stays. 3495 02:39:55.440 --> 02:39:59.360 All right? Mary, should Split Fiction be the lamest tone game. 3496 02:39:59.239 --> 02:39:59.559 Of the year. 3497 02:39:59.760 --> 02:40:03.239 I based on what Dan is saying, it's really hard 3498 02:40:03.360 --> 02:40:07.159 because sounds like Dying Light was really obnoxious. I think, uh, 3499 02:40:07.559 --> 02:40:10.159 my problem with the tone and Split Fiction is that 3500 02:40:10.559 --> 02:40:15.920 both of the women are really irritating to be around, 3501 02:40:16.200 --> 02:40:21.399 and it's hard to have two people that are both 3502 02:40:21.440 --> 02:40:23.879 the protagonists and not like either of them, and have 3503 02:40:24.079 --> 02:40:29.680 them both have such I can't do anything about it. 3504 02:40:29.760 --> 02:40:32.040 I just have to deal with their their dialogue. Ones 3505 02:40:32.079 --> 02:40:37.040 a city girl and one is you know, country They 3506 02:40:37.159 --> 02:40:39.840 I don't I don't think I really understand their nuances, 3507 02:40:39.840 --> 02:40:41.479 and I don't think they're fair to each other. I 3508 02:40:41.520 --> 02:40:45.159 think their dialogue is poorly written to make them very different, 3509 02:40:45.319 --> 02:40:48.680 but not make them nuanced or really appreciative or understand 3510 02:40:48.760 --> 02:40:49.079 each other. 3511 02:40:49.319 --> 02:40:49.920 They're just. 3512 02:40:51.799 --> 02:40:54.719 Uh, staunchly opposed to each other until they decide the 3513 02:40:54.799 --> 02:40:57.920 corporation is truly the real evil, and I don't think 3514 02:40:57.959 --> 02:40:59.319 that that is earned. 3515 02:40:59.799 --> 02:41:01.479 So capitalism is the real enemy. 3516 02:41:01.719 --> 02:41:05.200 Yeah, that's right. I don't think that, uh, that game 3517 02:41:05.559 --> 02:41:07.079 earns what they're trying to do. 3518 02:41:07.360 --> 02:41:10.520 So I just have to suffer through them constantly saying 3519 02:41:10.680 --> 02:41:11.719 negative things about each other. 3520 02:41:11.840 --> 02:41:14.040 It does remind me of It takes two. I don't 3521 02:41:14.120 --> 02:41:14.760 like hearing. 3522 02:41:14.600 --> 02:41:19.719 Couples basically talk about their divorce through a you know, 3523 02:41:19.840 --> 02:41:21.639 six hour video game and a. 3524 02:41:21.639 --> 02:41:23.760 Lot longer than that was. That was one of my 3525 02:41:23.799 --> 02:41:25.959 main complaints was way too long. Yeah, I wish it 3526 02:41:26.040 --> 02:41:27.639 was six hours. Actually two hours of it, and I 3527 02:41:27.719 --> 02:41:31.760 had to stop because of this, the chatter I just didn't. Yeah, 3528 02:41:31.840 --> 02:41:34.159 it was very core. I guess it's to the point 3529 02:41:34.159 --> 02:41:36.079 where it's kind of like my favorite as far as 3530 02:41:36.200 --> 02:41:40.319 game is still Brothers. It's oh yeah, so understraded and yeah, 3531 02:41:40.799 --> 02:41:44.840 so good. No dialogue and in fact no co op. 3532 02:41:45.000 --> 02:41:46.760 Is just one person playing two characters, and then when 3533 02:41:46.760 --> 02:41:48.399 you can't play both of them, it's fuck, oh shit. 3534 02:41:48.559 --> 02:41:51.440 I will concede that there are times in split fiction 3535 02:41:52.159 --> 02:41:55.399 when I thought, oh, mechanically, I understand what you're trying 3536 02:41:55.440 --> 02:41:57.959 to do here. You're making us talk to each other 3537 02:41:58.079 --> 02:42:01.959 and work together, and they're they're are elements, not as 3538 02:42:02.000 --> 02:42:03.879 many as I would have liked. But there are times 3539 02:42:03.920 --> 02:42:08.200 in split fiction where I will respect the game mechanics 3540 02:42:08.239 --> 02:42:10.280 that they put in for getting us to work together 3541 02:42:10.399 --> 02:42:14.120 cooperatively and communicate effectively. And I think that is actually 3542 02:42:14.200 --> 02:42:16.319 wonderful that they were able to do that. There is 3543 02:42:16.360 --> 02:42:19.079 almost no redeeming dialogue in that game, no, and so 3544 02:42:19.239 --> 02:42:21.399 it is so it is such a bummer that they 3545 02:42:22.040 --> 02:42:26.159 made me listen to those hens gack at each other 3546 02:42:26.719 --> 02:42:29.200 for as long as they did, so that I could 3547 02:42:29.239 --> 02:42:30.399 make us jump through hoops. 3548 02:42:30.399 --> 02:42:34.520 At the same time, I think I really like that argument. 3549 02:42:36.879 --> 02:42:38.920 I do think slip fiction is maybe a front runner here, 3550 02:42:39.079 --> 02:42:42.120 Like I guess Dying Light's tone was so bad and 3551 02:42:42.159 --> 02:42:43.600 that like our demo I saw, It's like, oh, I'm 3552 02:42:43.639 --> 02:42:46.319 never playing that slip fiction. I did play the entirety 3553 02:42:46.399 --> 02:42:48.799 of and everything Mary just said, she just said it beautifully. 3554 02:42:48.920 --> 02:42:51.280 It is a It takes what should just be a 3555 02:42:51.319 --> 02:42:54.000 fun co op experience and it's just non stop just 3556 02:42:54.120 --> 02:42:54.600 annoying you. 3557 02:42:54.920 --> 02:42:58.319 And uh yeah, the tone is fucking terrible. No, I 3558 02:42:59.639 --> 02:43:02.239 don't disagree. I would say the I think the thing 3559 02:43:02.280 --> 02:43:04.479 that's hardest with split fiction and with it takes two 3560 02:43:04.639 --> 02:43:06.680 is like I love the fact that there is a 3561 02:43:06.719 --> 02:43:10.600 studio that's like single handedly just trying to make compelling 3562 02:43:10.719 --> 02:43:12.840 couch co op game is still in twenty twenty five way, 3563 02:43:13.040 --> 02:43:16.360 So I think it's like a byproduct of us wanting. 3564 02:43:16.559 --> 02:43:19.120 For me at least, it's a byproduct of wanting the 3565 02:43:19.239 --> 02:43:21.360 quality of the dialogue and storytelling to line up with 3566 02:43:21.440 --> 02:43:23.120 the quality of the gameplay and what they're trying to do, 3567 02:43:23.239 --> 02:43:25.479 because it's really cool and I want them to keep going. 3568 02:43:25.520 --> 02:43:28.399 It's just like Sonra is untapped, make more of these 3569 02:43:28.559 --> 02:43:30.040 games and make them better. 3570 02:43:30.520 --> 02:43:33.959 This is must talking. Yeah, it's just this studio kept 3571 02:43:34.000 --> 02:43:36.639 making those games without dialogue. It's like, Split Fiction is 3572 02:43:36.680 --> 02:43:38.559 a good fucking game. And there's stuff, especially at the 3573 02:43:38.639 --> 02:43:40.760 end of that, like the last hour, so it's doing 3574 02:43:40.959 --> 02:43:43.159 remarkable stuff. And I'm a big couch co op guy. 3575 02:43:44.799 --> 02:43:46.920 I love their games. I hate their tone. 3576 02:43:47.239 --> 02:43:50.239 Yeah, so I think we're kind of all in agreement 3577 02:43:50.280 --> 02:43:54.559 then that. Uh yeah, that's why I think was I 3578 02:43:54.600 --> 02:44:00.200 think that was it? Okay, lamest tone. Honorable mentions are 3579 02:44:00.319 --> 02:44:02.760 Borderlands for and Dying Like the Beast. But the winner 3580 02:44:02.920 --> 02:44:09.959 is Split Fiction. All right, next category moving along here. Uh, 3581 02:44:10.200 --> 02:44:12.840 this is a fun one and the winner will be 3582 02:44:12.879 --> 02:44:16.280 one that we forgot. But this is things we The 3583 02:44:16.399 --> 02:44:18.159 things we most forgot came out this year. 3584 02:44:18.879 --> 02:44:23.399 The nominees are Monster Hunter, Wilde's Assassin's Creed, Shadows, Order 3585 02:44:23.520 --> 02:44:28.239 Lands for Mafia, The Old Country, Elden Ring, Night Rain Sieve, 3586 02:44:29.000 --> 02:44:34.879 Battlefield six, FBC Firebreak, Eternal Strands, the. 3587 02:44:35.040 --> 02:44:40.120 Nintendo developed and published wheelchair basketball game for Switch to Still. 3588 02:44:39.959 --> 02:44:43.840 Weird, frag Punk, South of Midnight. 3589 02:44:43.600 --> 02:44:46.520 And The Outer World's Two. Can I make a suggestion 3590 02:44:46.600 --> 02:44:49.000 for this category? How about we picked two from this list? 3591 02:44:49.360 --> 02:44:51.280 Those are the runners up because again, the winner is 3592 02:44:51.280 --> 02:44:52.840 always going to be one. We didn't even think to 3593 02:44:52.879 --> 02:44:53.680 fucking put Okay, so. 3594 02:44:53.639 --> 02:44:55.159 We're just gonna whittle it down to two and it'll 3595 02:44:55.159 --> 02:45:00.319 be a miss every single year. The common answer like, 3596 02:45:00.360 --> 02:45:01.959 you guys forgot this, and I'm like, fuck, we did, 3597 02:45:02.239 --> 02:45:04.000 all right, so well we'll look down two. Okay, that 3598 02:45:04.079 --> 02:45:06.719 sounds good. Whoever put elden Ring Night Rain on here, 3599 02:45:06.760 --> 02:45:09.639 I got a fucking problem, And I'll just be honest. 3600 02:45:09.760 --> 02:45:14.159 It's because I never played it. Well, sounds like Ring 3601 02:45:14.280 --> 02:45:15.440 is one of the best games of all time. 3602 02:45:15.520 --> 02:45:17.399 There's memory, but I want to play a multiplayer one 3603 02:45:17.520 --> 02:45:20.399 Night Rain as memorable, like you need people to play 3604 02:45:20.399 --> 02:45:22.200 with Because I played, I don't want to was my 3605 02:45:22.319 --> 02:45:23.079 most played game. 3606 02:45:23.399 --> 02:45:26.479 I don't want to put it on going on. 3607 02:45:26.680 --> 02:45:28.639 That was just me Like all right, I mean nelden 3608 02:45:28.719 --> 02:45:32.719 Ring multiplayer thing, I would say Battlefield six I did 3609 02:45:32.840 --> 02:45:34.639 not forget that came out this year. I had some 3610 02:45:35.120 --> 02:45:37.319 very fun multiplayer sessions of that game. I mean, I 3611 02:45:37.360 --> 02:45:39.719 don't think it's my favorite battlefield, but I think it 3612 02:45:39.879 --> 02:45:42.520 is getting back to what made like three one of 3613 02:45:42.600 --> 02:45:44.280 my favorites in the series. And I think like the 3614 02:45:44.360 --> 02:45:47.920 emergent gameplay of the different class and your friends. I 3615 02:45:48.040 --> 02:45:50.319 had a memorable moments of that game. I definitely get 3616 02:45:50.600 --> 02:45:53.399 why we added it there though, because what it came out, 3617 02:45:53.479 --> 02:45:55.120 and then Call of Duty came out, and then Arc 3618 02:45:55.200 --> 02:45:57.159 Raiders came out, and like it was just like we're 3619 02:45:57.200 --> 02:45:58.840 timing one after the other. 3620 02:45:58.959 --> 02:46:01.120 But I did play a lot of Battlefield six. Oh 3621 02:46:01.200 --> 02:46:03.040 interesting is it that there was a time, like maybe 3622 02:46:03.159 --> 02:46:05.319 twenty eleven, twenty twelve where it's like that November time 3623 02:46:05.360 --> 02:46:07.399 frame where it's like, man, it's gonna between Battlefield and 3624 02:46:07.440 --> 02:46:09.360 Call of Duty for that November weekend. These are the 3625 02:46:09.399 --> 02:46:11.840 two big heavy hitters, And now Battlefield and Call of 3626 02:46:11.920 --> 02:46:14.040 Duty this year are just like we're not no one's 3627 02:46:14.040 --> 02:46:17.200 fucking talking about those two games. I mean maybe Battlefield 3628 02:46:17.200 --> 02:46:20.079 Battlefield broke the record for the current players on steagectually 3629 02:46:20.079 --> 02:46:23.440 Battlefield more than Call of Duty like a lot. Yeah, 3630 02:46:23.520 --> 02:46:24.479 And I guess I just don't know a lot of 3631 02:46:24.479 --> 02:46:26.159 people that play Battlefield, so maybe that's why I'm not 3632 02:46:26.159 --> 02:46:27.479 hearing about it much. Yeah. No, I'm. 3633 02:46:29.479 --> 02:46:32.559 Not that that's the criteria for this category. A fuck 3634 02:46:32.600 --> 02:46:34.200 ton of people played that game. But if it's the 3635 02:46:34.239 --> 02:46:36.799 ones we forgot, it seems like you like it. I 3636 02:46:36.920 --> 02:46:39.479 was paying attention to it a lot for various reasons, 3637 02:46:39.520 --> 02:46:42.239 but I definitely after it was released, I played it 3638 02:46:42.360 --> 02:46:45.760 a good deal. I had some memorable I'd say that's 3639 02:46:45.840 --> 02:46:47.959 like covering around my number ten game of the year personally, 3640 02:46:48.040 --> 02:46:50.120 like I had some fun, very very fun nights. 3641 02:46:50.200 --> 02:46:50.520 Coo cool. 3642 02:46:52.559 --> 02:46:55.479 Oh sorry, Assassin's Creen Shadows. I did not forget either, 3643 02:46:55.760 --> 02:46:57.120 because you know what, I actually liked it. 3644 02:46:57.799 --> 02:46:59.559 Do not like that series, And this is when I 3645 02:46:59.680 --> 02:47:01.000 was like, I'm kind of I kind of see what 3646 02:47:01.040 --> 02:47:01.479 they're doing here. 3647 02:47:01.680 --> 02:47:02.159 I liked it. 3648 02:47:02.399 --> 02:47:03.319 I liked the lady. 3649 02:47:03.680 --> 02:47:06.120 I think it was a fun game. Is it like 3650 02:47:06.200 --> 02:47:09.680 the thing I'm gonna really fight hard for at the end? 3651 02:47:09.799 --> 02:47:12.799 Probably not, but I remember it. I remember that game. 3652 02:47:13.120 --> 02:47:15.239 There's some I also like the fact that, oh my god, 3653 02:47:15.280 --> 02:47:17.639 it's it's so funny when you play Yota, how similar 3654 02:47:17.719 --> 02:47:20.440 the set up in the story for so much better. 3655 02:47:20.680 --> 02:47:23.280 You're getting You're yeah, you're getting revenge against like kill 3656 02:47:23.360 --> 02:47:27.159 bill style against these this cast that killed is it 3657 02:47:27.239 --> 02:47:30.120 your dad? In both time games, I forgot the whole 3658 02:47:30.159 --> 02:47:34.959 family family and yo te but like family and yeah, 3659 02:47:35.000 --> 02:47:37.959 I just I think the reason that people might see 3660 02:47:38.000 --> 02:47:40.120 that as being forgotten is because Yote came out and 3661 02:47:40.680 --> 02:47:43.360 kind of ate its lunch in the similar, very very 3662 02:47:43.399 --> 02:47:48.239 different time periods. But yeah, also like Assassin's Creed was 3663 02:47:48.319 --> 02:47:51.040 just because it came out in February right into January 3664 02:47:51.120 --> 02:47:51.360 or something. 3665 02:47:51.399 --> 02:47:52.719 Yeah, it's been a lot of time. I played a 3666 02:47:52.799 --> 02:47:55.239 lot of that game. I did a'tyone play FBC Firebrick. 3667 02:47:56.040 --> 02:47:57.639 I played a little. I did not like it. Not 3668 02:47:57.760 --> 02:48:01.879 after it No, not really did you forget it? 3669 02:48:03.120 --> 02:48:05.920 I forgot about it until I think you added it 3670 02:48:06.079 --> 02:48:08.440 because I mentioned, oh, we got to add FBC fire Breaking, 3671 02:48:08.520 --> 02:48:09.559 like I already put it there, and I was like, 3672 02:48:09.639 --> 02:48:17.719 I do think Remedy itself did not super I don't 3673 02:48:17.760 --> 02:48:19.760 know how to phrase this. I don't think Remedy Itself 3674 02:48:19.879 --> 02:48:21.559 is putting that game on their resume. So I think 3675 02:48:21.600 --> 02:48:23.319 once it came out and kind of fizzled, I think 3676 02:48:23.479 --> 02:48:25.559 like even like the people behind it were like they've 3677 02:48:25.639 --> 02:48:28.239 done some updates to like try to fix it. But yeah, 3678 02:48:28.280 --> 02:48:29.399 I think you're right for the most part. 3679 02:48:30.440 --> 02:48:33.319 I think we can cut Monster Hunter. I mean that's 3680 02:48:33.840 --> 02:48:35.959 I remember, just because it's like it was built up 3681 02:48:36.040 --> 02:48:37.920 to be. I member Monster Hunter World was such a 3682 02:48:38.040 --> 02:48:39.319 success and it was the one that kind of got 3683 02:48:39.360 --> 02:48:41.399 me to understand Monster Hunter for the first time. And 3684 02:48:41.479 --> 02:48:43.120 then it was like it was like the big one 3685 02:48:43.200 --> 02:48:45.239 more thing and like the TGA's or something a year 3686 02:48:45.280 --> 02:48:47.680 or two ago, and so it's like there was a 3687 02:48:47.680 --> 02:48:49.360 lot of hype to it, and I played it and 3688 02:48:49.399 --> 02:48:50.719 I was excited about it, and I was kind of like, 3689 02:48:50.920 --> 02:48:53.239 I don't really like this approach to it. So but 3690 02:48:53.360 --> 02:48:55.879 I do remember being excited for it, playing it a 3691 02:48:55.920 --> 02:48:58.680 bit and everything, and falling off quickly. But I remember that. 3692 02:48:58.920 --> 02:48:59.079 You know. 3693 02:48:59.360 --> 02:49:02.399 The thing with Wilds is that like it's not that 3694 02:49:02.520 --> 02:49:05.079 people forgot about it, it's the people are still frustrated 3695 02:49:05.120 --> 02:49:09.920 about it. Yeah, because like I played a lot of 3696 02:49:10.000 --> 02:49:11.799 it and haven't thought about it since, but then I 3697 02:49:12.079 --> 02:49:14.040 see a bunch of people online complaining about it still 3698 02:49:14.079 --> 02:49:18.159 something Okay, people are still talking about it. Yeah, I 3699 02:49:18.239 --> 02:49:20.399 didn't forget it came out. I just didn't love it. 3700 02:49:21.120 --> 02:49:25.280 That's different and Borderlands, for I don't think people forgot either. 3701 02:49:25.879 --> 02:49:26.399 Yeah, I have. 3702 02:49:27.280 --> 02:49:28.799 There are a lot of people I know that play 3703 02:49:28.879 --> 02:49:32.159 this game religiously. Yes, I think it's still popular. 3704 02:49:32.399 --> 02:49:34.600 And there's people that don't care about the writing in 3705 02:49:34.639 --> 02:49:37.040 that game, like they just get on discord their friends 3706 02:49:37.079 --> 02:49:39.840 and like they figure out we used to system link 3707 02:49:39.879 --> 02:49:41.479 with that, or we used to play online with like 3708 02:49:42.040 --> 02:49:44.280 two often, and then same thing with three. We played 3709 02:49:44.520 --> 02:49:48.120 like that, this isn't worst game. This is genuinely were 3710 02:49:48.200 --> 02:49:53.200 like what. I totally forgot that there was an outer 3711 02:49:53.319 --> 02:49:53.840 world too. 3712 02:49:54.680 --> 02:49:56.559 Did any of us play it? Yeah? I played a 3713 02:49:56.600 --> 02:49:58.239 little bit. But still sometimes I'm like. 3714 02:49:58.479 --> 02:50:00.559 Oh my god, there's an outer why elds too? 3715 02:50:03.040 --> 02:50:06.520 Oh oh, I wish there was an outer wild scene. 3716 02:50:06.879 --> 02:50:09.239 I forget that. The thing is I I liked the 3717 02:50:09.319 --> 02:50:11.120 first one. I thought it was a good one of those, 3718 02:50:11.479 --> 02:50:13.639 and then I remember being excited for this one because 3719 02:50:13.719 --> 02:50:16.399 I love about about early this year, I thought it 3720 02:50:16.440 --> 02:50:18.239 was fantastic and I was like, oh man, can't wait 3721 02:50:18.239 --> 02:50:20.239 to see it, you know, and like on the Space Vibe, 3722 02:50:20.239 --> 02:50:21.959 you know, if city is kind of leveling up in 3723 02:50:21.959 --> 02:50:24.639 this way. And then it came out and I feel 3724 02:50:24.680 --> 02:50:28.079 like no one was really like this game is fanta 3725 02:50:28.159 --> 02:50:29.079 you gotta play this one. 3726 02:50:29.520 --> 02:50:29.639 Uh. 3727 02:50:29.840 --> 02:50:31.319 And it was at a time when there were like 3728 02:50:31.399 --> 02:50:33.120 a million other games and I was playing, so it's like, 3729 02:50:33.159 --> 02:50:35.200 all right, this is gonna be like a fairly lengthy 3730 02:50:35.280 --> 02:50:38.040 game that people don't seem super hot on. If there's 3731 02:50:38.120 --> 02:50:40.360 one game I need to just like, it doesn't seem 3732 02:50:40.440 --> 02:50:42.680 like I need to prioritize this. It's that one. But 3733 02:50:42.799 --> 02:50:45.120 like I remember, came out but no one seemed to care, 3734 02:50:45.360 --> 02:50:48.159 but he talked about it. I think that stays. Do 3735 02:50:48.239 --> 02:50:51.159 you guys know what the Nintendo game? I added that 3736 02:50:51.399 --> 02:50:53.200 I literally couldn't remember the name. 3737 02:50:53.520 --> 02:50:55.840 This drag is a trag X drive. It might be 3738 02:50:56.040 --> 02:50:57.920 that sounds right. I was about to look it up, 3739 02:50:57.920 --> 02:51:00.399 and I was like, this is kind of proves my 3740 02:51:00.600 --> 02:51:01.360 point a little. 3741 02:51:01.120 --> 02:51:03.559 Where like that's thing name. 3742 02:51:03.959 --> 02:51:05.200 I forgot the point. 3743 02:51:05.440 --> 02:51:08.159 It's such a baffling fucking game. It's like if if 3744 02:51:08.200 --> 02:51:09.799 it was fun, it's like okay, it's like this is 3745 02:51:09.879 --> 02:51:12.680 like a whack in motion thing like it's I still 3746 02:51:12.719 --> 02:51:15.399 remember being at that Nintendo Switch to reveal event in 3747 02:51:15.479 --> 02:51:17.840 New York City and that all these kiosk set up. 3748 02:51:17.840 --> 02:51:19.639 It was the first time that the Switch Too was playable, 3749 02:51:20.000 --> 02:51:22.600 and I mean everyone was lined up to play everything. Obviously, 3750 02:51:22.639 --> 02:51:24.840 there's a million Bonanza kios a bunch of Mario Kart 3751 02:51:24.879 --> 02:51:26.680 World kios and we're super sided lining up for all 3752 02:51:26.680 --> 02:51:28.360 this stuff. People are even lining up to like play 3753 02:51:28.440 --> 02:51:31.120 like cyberpunk and just like switch to editions of games 3754 02:51:31.159 --> 02:51:33.120 that have been out for years. And then there were 3755 02:51:33.200 --> 02:51:38.079 like six fucking kios for Dragon Drive and there were 3756 02:51:38.159 --> 02:51:41.920 just these born endo you know, hired people or whatever. Hey, 3757 02:51:42.000 --> 02:51:43.520 you guys want to play. It's like trying to get 3758 02:51:43.920 --> 02:51:45.799 it's a six player game, and so they were just 3759 02:51:46.000 --> 02:51:48.479 trying desperately to get anyone to play this new switch 3760 02:51:48.520 --> 02:51:50.799 to game that just got revealed, and everyone was kind 3761 02:51:50.799 --> 02:51:52.440 of walked by. I was like, I'm gonna go play. 3762 02:51:52.559 --> 02:51:56.799 Uh uh yeah, Mario Carter or something. No one cared, 3763 02:51:57.399 --> 02:51:59.920 and it just wasn't good. It's not like people do 3764 02:52:00.120 --> 02:52:00.399 play it. 3765 02:52:00.520 --> 02:52:03.200 It's just that it's so forgotten. I think that stays. 3766 02:52:03.760 --> 02:52:05.399 I think we can get rid of South of Midnight. 3767 02:52:05.719 --> 02:52:11.079 I do remember that game. It is a nice game. 3768 02:52:12.000 --> 02:52:16.680 Yeah, wow, it okay. I would say we should get 3769 02:52:16.760 --> 02:52:19.680 rid of SIEV seven. I think I remember it came out. 3770 02:52:19.760 --> 02:52:22.799 But also, like the conversation around that game is not 3771 02:52:23.399 --> 02:52:25.920 within the strategy game for x community. It's not I 3772 02:52:25.959 --> 02:52:27.680 forgot that game came out. It's like, oh my god, 3773 02:52:27.719 --> 02:52:29.520 I want that game to be better in so many ways, 3774 02:52:29.559 --> 02:52:31.559 and they're working toward it. And for acxis is famous 3775 02:52:31.639 --> 02:52:36.120 for expansions, kind of pushing a game to its full potential. 3776 02:52:36.479 --> 02:52:38.680 Although for Axis had quite a few layoffs this year, 3777 02:52:38.760 --> 02:52:40.680 so I don't know that they have the same bandwidth 3778 02:52:40.719 --> 02:52:42.680 as they did with six. But like SI seven, I 3779 02:52:43.000 --> 02:52:45.399 absolutely remember it came out. I just sounds like a 3780 02:52:45.479 --> 02:52:47.879 monster Hunter wild. Yeah, it was like I think it 3781 02:52:47.959 --> 02:52:51.680 was like the same week I have problems that game. 3782 02:52:51.680 --> 02:52:53.040 I had stuff I liked, but I did not. 3783 02:52:54.079 --> 02:52:56.319 You don't forget it. Let me describe my thoughts on 3784 02:52:56.360 --> 02:52:58.520 Eternal Strands, and you guys tell me if it's more 3785 02:52:58.559 --> 02:53:00.799 of an argument for its staying or going. So Eternal 3786 02:53:00.840 --> 02:53:04.000 Strands came out early this year January February. I want 3787 02:53:04.040 --> 02:53:05.360 to say, at a time when there was a lot 3788 02:53:05.360 --> 02:53:07.520 of stuff going on and I heard I think, you know, say, 3789 02:53:07.520 --> 02:53:08.760 a couple of people that told me about it. I 3790 02:53:08.840 --> 02:53:10.360 was like, oh, that sounds kind of interesting, and I 3791 02:53:10.440 --> 02:53:12.079 hop in and I Homember having a really good time 3792 02:53:12.079 --> 02:53:13.520 with it. It had like an interesting kind of like 3793 02:53:13.879 --> 02:53:16.159 gear leveling up system, and it had this like almost 3794 02:53:16.200 --> 02:53:18.079 Breath of the Wild and shadow of the Classes and 3795 02:53:18.159 --> 02:53:20.239 like a lot of different obvious influences. It was wearing 3796 02:53:20.280 --> 02:53:22.040 on its leeve like kind of a fun Magic System. 3797 02:53:22.159 --> 02:53:24.680 Remember having a really fun time with it, and then 3798 02:53:24.799 --> 02:53:28.200 like something came out I stopped playing it. And then 3799 02:53:28.520 --> 02:53:30.040 when we were putting this list together, I was like, 3800 02:53:30.600 --> 02:53:32.319 what the fuck was that game? There was a game 3801 02:53:32.639 --> 02:53:34.120 I swear to I can picture it in my head 3802 02:53:34.520 --> 02:53:36.479 and I was fighting kind of Shadow of the Classes things, 3803 02:53:36.520 --> 02:53:38.719 and like I it almost seemed like a dream. I 3804 02:53:38.840 --> 02:53:40.600 was half remembering. But I was like, no, I know 3805 02:53:40.680 --> 02:53:42.440 I played this game, and I had to like google, 3806 02:53:42.479 --> 02:53:45.079 like shotow of the Classes, Magic Breath of the Wild game, 3807 02:53:45.520 --> 02:53:47.479 and it took me like googling to find out what 3808 02:53:47.559 --> 02:53:49.719 the fuck It was. Not not a great title anyway, 3809 02:53:49.719 --> 02:53:53.319 but like, is that more reason to stay or go? 3810 02:53:53.719 --> 02:53:55.799 If it's like because I do remember playing it, to stay? 3811 02:53:55.840 --> 02:53:57.639 If you played it and forgot it, then that's more. 3812 02:53:57.680 --> 02:53:59.520 I couldn't remember the name of it. I couldn't remember. 3813 02:53:59.559 --> 02:54:01.440 I just like it felt like a dream. I think 3814 02:54:01.520 --> 02:54:03.879 it's a reason to stay if you actually put your 3815 02:54:03.920 --> 02:54:05.799 hands on and played it, and I think we're gotten. 3816 02:54:06.719 --> 02:54:07.920 That's the thing. A lot of these games I think 3817 02:54:07.959 --> 02:54:08.959 are like kind of bad. 3818 02:54:10.559 --> 02:54:11.479 What's frag punk? 3819 02:54:12.319 --> 02:54:15.559 I think that's oh yeah, yeah, frag punk is what 3820 02:54:15.719 --> 02:54:22.000 the like, uh, Hero Arena shooter with very colorful casts. 3821 02:54:22.079 --> 02:54:24.520 Yeah, I remember getting like pressy meals about it, but 3822 02:54:24.520 --> 02:54:26.159 I don't think I Actually, I'm guessing if any one 3823 02:54:26.200 --> 02:54:27.360 of us played it, it would have been on the 3824 02:54:27.399 --> 02:54:30.760 lamest tone. It's called frag punk. There's no way it's 3825 02:54:30.840 --> 02:54:31.319 not lame. 3826 02:54:32.079 --> 02:54:33.760 I want to say, Like, to me, it struck me 3827 02:54:33.799 --> 02:54:38.200 as the fine the Finals meets Overwatch meats. 3828 02:54:40.040 --> 02:54:42.440 What was the what was the the game that Cliff 3829 02:54:42.440 --> 02:54:50.239 Platinsky's law Breakers Radical Heights? Yeah, my god, yeah, yeah, man. 3830 02:54:51.239 --> 02:54:54.079 What about Mafia the Old Country did? Because I I 3831 02:54:54.159 --> 02:54:56.559 guess I did play this, but like it definitely was 3832 02:54:56.639 --> 02:54:58.799 like a game that I finished. I'm like, okay, I enjoyed, 3833 02:54:58.840 --> 02:55:00.079 and then I just like I. 3834 02:55:02.680 --> 02:55:03.159 Didn't play it. 3835 02:55:04.040 --> 02:55:08.200 That one's tough because, like, yeah, I find that that 3836 02:55:08.280 --> 02:55:10.840 game came and went, and I think there's different competition 3837 02:55:10.920 --> 02:55:12.239 here than Mafia the Old Country. 3838 02:55:12.479 --> 02:55:14.479 Okay, I think we should start I do think we 3839 02:55:14.520 --> 02:55:16.879 should start cutting. We don't need all of these, Like 3840 02:55:17.159 --> 02:55:18.639 if you didn't truly. 3841 02:55:18.239 --> 02:55:21.879 Forget it, Drag X Drive is so weird. I don't 3842 02:55:22.000 --> 02:55:24.520 think I'm going to forget that. Nintendo made a weird 3843 02:55:24.600 --> 02:55:26.879 wheelchair basketball game for the launch of the Switch too. 3844 02:55:27.120 --> 02:55:29.680 That's weird enough to be memorable. What about it is 3845 02:55:29.760 --> 02:55:33.280 weird that Nintendo made a wheelchair basketball game for the 3846 02:55:33.360 --> 02:55:35.799 launch of Nintendo Switch too, Like that's a fucking word. 3847 02:55:36.000 --> 02:55:38.040 It is a similar situation that you had with Eternal 3848 02:55:38.079 --> 02:55:40.079 Strands right where it's like you remember playing this game. 3849 02:55:40.120 --> 02:55:42.200 I remember seeing this game. Couldn't remember the name for 3850 02:55:42.440 --> 02:55:45.639 the life of me, you know, but I guess, but. 3851 02:55:45.799 --> 02:55:48.000 You couldn't remember the name. You had to put weird 3852 02:55:48.120 --> 02:55:51.680 Nintendo wheelchair game, yeah, which I think is like it's 3853 02:55:51.760 --> 02:55:54.479 like memorable that like people will remember that, I think 3854 02:55:54.479 --> 02:55:56.319 five or ten years from now. The way people remember 3855 02:55:56.399 --> 02:55:59.440 like Arms like Arms is this weird fucking springy arm 3856 02:55:59.520 --> 02:56:02.200 game at the onto the Switch, you know they Arms 3857 02:56:02.319 --> 02:56:05.360 was kind of good. But I mean this is bad though, 3858 02:56:05.440 --> 02:56:08.079 but maybe that makes it more memorable. It's just a 3859 02:56:09.799 --> 02:56:12.280 when Nintendo was like killing it on so many fronts lately, 3860 02:56:12.760 --> 02:56:14.760 and now it's like, what the fuck are they doing 3861 02:56:14.799 --> 02:56:15.600 with this guys. 3862 02:56:15.639 --> 02:56:17.440 You guys are talking about it more like with more 3863 02:56:17.479 --> 02:56:19.319 memories than a lot of these other games. 3864 02:56:19.360 --> 02:56:22.360 That's what I think we could I'm not saying, oh yeah, 3865 02:56:22.639 --> 02:56:25.840 it sounds like I will remember Drag and Drive more 3866 02:56:25.879 --> 02:56:28.440 than I remember anything else on this The Old Country, 3867 02:56:28.520 --> 02:56:29.360 like I haven't played. 3868 02:56:29.360 --> 02:56:30.959 I was at least looking forward to it to the 3869 02:56:30.959 --> 02:56:32.440 point where I was like where it was coming out 3870 02:56:32.520 --> 02:56:34.840 this year. I don't love that series, but I still 3871 02:56:34.840 --> 02:56:35.280 play them. 3872 02:56:36.000 --> 02:56:38.120 There's there's a lot of wine in it. I didn't 3873 02:56:38.159 --> 02:56:40.479 know that it's Addam rules too. Just a thing. Is 3874 02:56:40.520 --> 02:56:42.399 it just a victim of like poor timing and the 3875 02:56:42.440 --> 02:56:44.440 fact that we didn't really play it? Probably poor timing. 3876 02:56:44.959 --> 02:56:47.079 I mean, I'm sure it's a pretty good game. I'm sure. 3877 02:56:47.079 --> 02:56:51.200 I'm sure it's a seven point five, you know, late 3878 02:56:51.319 --> 02:56:55.079 enough of it. You can't just give a game a 3879 02:56:55.239 --> 02:57:00.719 se can't. No, No, I'm sure it's pretty good. Uh. 3880 02:57:02.239 --> 02:57:04.239 I think that was just a victim of we just 3881 02:57:04.319 --> 02:57:05.760 had a lot of games were playing at the time. 3882 02:57:05.799 --> 02:57:08.120 I don't know if it's necessarily the games you'll want 3883 02:57:08.120 --> 02:57:10.319 to play it too. Forgot about it. If there was 3884 02:57:10.360 --> 02:57:12.479 a drought, you know, like early next year, I could 3885 02:57:12.520 --> 02:57:15.159 see myself playing I love that, like Triple double a 3886 02:57:15.319 --> 02:57:18.399 level Elder Scrolls in the Vein of a Vow. Yeah, 3887 02:57:18.520 --> 02:57:21.600 that might be in my top ten this year, you know. Yeah. 3888 02:57:21.680 --> 02:57:24.280 Mafia and Outer Worlds to me, are I could, I 3889 02:57:24.319 --> 02:57:25.159 would see cutting. 3890 02:57:27.120 --> 02:57:29.520 Yeah, I still need to cut one more because mystery 3891 02:57:29.600 --> 02:57:33.840 game right, oh right, right, the winner, M God. 3892 02:57:36.879 --> 02:57:40.079 I think within three months I will forget Eternal Strands 3893 02:57:40.159 --> 02:57:42.399 ever existed, even though I played a lot of. 3894 02:57:42.440 --> 02:57:46.280 It for me, I know, if I remember FBC fire 3895 02:57:46.360 --> 02:57:49.399 Break because it's so funny. Remedy can make some of 3896 02:57:49.520 --> 02:57:52.440 my Allen Wake two might be in my top five 3897 02:57:52.559 --> 02:57:56.520 games of all time. They're capable of making such singular, unique, 3898 02:57:56.680 --> 02:57:57.719 groundbreaking games. 3899 02:57:58.440 --> 02:58:01.200 They also get at to so like this. 3900 02:58:01.600 --> 02:58:03.719 The way their studio operates, they get attached to so 3901 02:58:03.760 --> 02:58:06.280 many different partnerships that they end up making these things 3902 02:58:07.120 --> 02:58:11.479 that become fascinating to me. I didn't forget that game 3903 02:58:11.520 --> 02:58:13.120 came out this year because I was so fascinated that 3904 02:58:13.120 --> 02:58:15.479 they were making a live service, co op session based 3905 02:58:15.479 --> 02:58:17.200 shooter in the Control World. 3906 02:58:17.479 --> 02:58:18.200 Yeah, which when. 3907 02:58:18.079 --> 02:58:19.600 They said that to me, I was like, I'll probably 3908 02:58:19.680 --> 02:58:21.520 play the shit out of that. That I didn't, but 3909 02:58:21.559 --> 02:58:23.079 I still like, didn't forget it came out. 3910 02:58:23.239 --> 02:58:25.280 I think there's a high enough profile to the fact 3911 02:58:25.319 --> 02:58:28.000 that it's Remedy and it's in the Control Universe that 3912 02:58:28.680 --> 02:58:31.879 people will remember that it exists. I think Eternal Strands 3913 02:58:31.920 --> 02:58:35.040 and Fragpunk you bring up now, even much less a 3914 02:58:35.120 --> 02:58:36.639 year or two now, we were like, what the fuck 3915 02:58:36.760 --> 02:58:36.879 was that? 3916 02:58:37.040 --> 02:58:40.600 There's like a there's a sense of people have written 3917 02:58:40.680 --> 02:58:43.840 stories about FBC and its failure as well. 3918 02:58:44.200 --> 02:58:44.520 I don't. 3919 02:58:44.600 --> 02:58:46.479 I haven't seen nearly as much about Eternal Strands or 3920 02:58:46.520 --> 02:58:49.639 frag Punk. Like I could see FBC being the subject 3921 02:58:49.680 --> 02:58:51.719 of one of those like what went wrong kind of 3922 02:58:51.799 --> 02:58:54.319 features down the road. I can't for the other other ones. 3923 02:58:55.319 --> 02:58:57.719 So then we've got our list then yeah, yeah, if 3924 02:58:57.879 --> 02:59:00.079 you were happy with what I just cut based on 3925 02:59:00.159 --> 02:59:04.639 those conversations Eternal Strands, frag Punk. But the thing we 3926 02:59:04.799 --> 02:59:07.239 most forgot came out this year is something we. 3927 02:59:07.280 --> 02:59:12.360 Forgot you fucking tell us, I don't know. Excellent. Next 3928 02:59:12.479 --> 02:59:20.520 category is best play with Buds Play with Buds. Nominees 3929 02:59:20.520 --> 02:59:25.520 are Peak Rebo, Arc Raiders, Battlefield six, ol Didn't Ring 3930 02:59:25.639 --> 02:59:30.159 Night Rain, Lego Party, Absolute, Are we there yet? Mario 3931 02:59:30.319 --> 02:59:33.040 Kart World and Fortnite. I think a lot of us, 3932 02:59:33.079 --> 02:59:35.000 you know, we've talked a lot about like a peak Repo, 3933 02:59:35.159 --> 02:59:39.159 Arc Craadors. Are we there yet? A boy? This is 3934 02:59:39.479 --> 02:59:41.280 this was there's a lot of friends slap on here, 3935 02:59:41.280 --> 02:59:42.959 which again I don't say that derisively at all. I 3936 02:59:43.000 --> 02:59:47.440 think it's a great thing. Then there's more traditional ones 3937 02:59:47.559 --> 02:59:49.079 Mario Kart World Fortnite. 3938 02:59:49.760 --> 02:59:52.079 I don't think you need to play Mario Kart World 3939 02:59:52.159 --> 02:59:54.440 with buds. I don't think that is the peak of 3940 02:59:54.520 --> 02:59:55.319 this category. 3941 02:59:55.520 --> 02:59:57.520 Also, it's a fun one to like, it's got that 3942 02:59:57.639 --> 02:59:59.399 stuff that Mario Curte Delex had where you can just 3943 02:59:59.440 --> 03:00:01.040 make a room with the code and like you know, 3944 03:00:01.159 --> 03:00:03.600 for totally ice stream, and it's a really nice one 3945 03:00:03.639 --> 03:00:04.680 to like, oh, at the end of the night, like 3946 03:00:04.760 --> 03:00:06.319 let's all do a knockout tour or something like that, 3947 03:00:06.440 --> 03:00:08.440 Like that's that's a lot of fun. And it's got 3948 03:00:08.479 --> 03:00:10.639 like the camera mode stuff if you're playing, like you know, 3949 03:00:10.719 --> 03:00:13.399 locally with friends and stuff like it's it's Mario Kart. 3950 03:00:13.520 --> 03:00:15.319 It's always gonna be fun to play with friends. But 3951 03:00:15.479 --> 03:00:18.600 like outside a knockout tour, there's not a whole lot 3952 03:00:18.719 --> 03:00:21.799 of like, wow, this is a whole new experience, you know, like. 3953 03:00:21.879 --> 03:00:24.280 It's I don't think it's going to hold a candle 3954 03:00:24.360 --> 03:00:26.360 to these other friends slop games. 3955 03:00:26.520 --> 03:00:29.559 I don't think night Rain is either. You can make 3956 03:00:29.600 --> 03:00:30.760 an argument it was. 3957 03:00:30.760 --> 03:00:34.920 Forgettable night Rain, and I played quite a bit of 3958 03:00:34.959 --> 03:00:37.200 co op that was I I. 3959 03:00:37.399 --> 03:00:40.520 I there's a reason why I love Night Rain as 3960 03:00:40.600 --> 03:00:43.319 much as I do. I don't think the main reason 3961 03:00:43.399 --> 03:00:45.760 I like that is like that game so much is 3962 03:00:45.879 --> 03:00:47.920 because of the co op. The co op is definitely 3963 03:00:48.120 --> 03:00:51.079 like the main draw of it. But I think it's 3964 03:00:51.680 --> 03:00:54.040 how they design those runs in a way that kind 3965 03:00:54.040 --> 03:00:56.479 of plays on expectations of from software games that makes 3966 03:00:56.520 --> 03:00:58.159 it super interesting and co op is a part of it. 3967 03:00:58.559 --> 03:01:02.520 But yeah, to like other people's point, I look at 3968 03:01:02.559 --> 03:01:06.280 some of these other games, and it's like, what makes 3969 03:01:06.319 --> 03:01:07.200 these games so much. 3970 03:01:07.120 --> 03:01:09.280 Fun are the buds that you're playing with, you know. 3971 03:01:11.159 --> 03:01:12.799 But I do think there's something to be said about 3972 03:01:12.840 --> 03:01:16.239 like struggling with friends in order to overcome a competition. 3973 03:01:16.280 --> 03:01:17.680 But I guess you could say that about a lot 3974 03:01:17.719 --> 03:01:19.319 of the other games. Yeah, Like I think Peak does 3975 03:01:19.360 --> 03:01:21.719 an incredible job of that. On top of being hilarious, 3976 03:01:21.760 --> 03:01:22.639 like we talked about. 3977 03:01:22.479 --> 03:01:25.520 It's also like a core mechanic, like lifting someone up 3978 03:01:25.559 --> 03:01:28.360 who couldn't climb unless you took their hands. 3979 03:01:28.399 --> 03:01:30.040 Yeah, and the idea of like if you got your 3980 03:01:30.079 --> 03:01:32.680 friend group that you play these games with regularly, the 3981 03:01:32.760 --> 03:01:34.559 fact that they kind of change the mountain out what 3982 03:01:34.639 --> 03:01:36.959 every week or so, that's just such a cool thing. 3983 03:01:37.440 --> 03:01:38.879 If you had a friend groups like let's play, Oh 3984 03:01:38.920 --> 03:01:40.920 it's every day, they every twenty four hours. Oh wow, 3985 03:01:41.079 --> 03:01:43.600 I think that's so smart. And it's again it's funny, 3986 03:01:43.799 --> 03:01:47.159 and it's just a really well designed multiplayer experience. Yeah, 3987 03:01:47.399 --> 03:01:49.680 I think it's I think it's a better multiplayer game 3988 03:01:49.719 --> 03:01:51.879 than Repo. I think we said earlier Repo's funnier. Peaks 3989 03:01:51.920 --> 03:01:52.399 a better game. 3990 03:01:52.719 --> 03:01:54.200 Repo is funnier. 3991 03:01:54.520 --> 03:01:58.360 I think Peak is designed to have a good experience 3992 03:01:58.639 --> 03:02:04.479 with your friends, and its entire mechanics are about helping 3993 03:02:04.559 --> 03:02:07.360 each other, hurting each other. There's a banana in that 3994 03:02:07.479 --> 03:02:10.920 game that makes other people slip. Throwing it at somebody 3995 03:02:11.159 --> 03:02:15.280 is a really brutal thing to do. Everything is designed 3996 03:02:15.479 --> 03:02:18.079 to play with other people in a sandbox. 3997 03:02:18.159 --> 03:02:19.239 That's its entire purpose. 3998 03:02:19.360 --> 03:02:23.600 It's it's ultimate at playing with buds. I think you 3999 03:02:23.719 --> 03:02:25.200 probably also make an argument. 4000 03:02:24.920 --> 03:02:27.840 For our graders, because, yeah, Our Creators is so. 4001 03:02:28.000 --> 03:02:30.879 Much more fun in my opinion, when you're playing with 4002 03:02:30.959 --> 03:02:33.760 other people and they're yelling at you, or they're guiding you, 4003 03:02:33.920 --> 03:02:36.440 or you're trying to do something together, I think it's 4004 03:02:36.719 --> 03:02:37.639 it's just incredible. 4005 03:02:37.799 --> 03:02:40.680 I know an online multiplayer game is good if like 4006 03:02:40.840 --> 03:02:44.319 I am getting people together off work hours and putting 4007 03:02:44.360 --> 03:02:45.920 on a fucking This is a game that like I 4008 03:02:46.079 --> 03:02:49.239 dug out my PlayStation headset stuff for that I like, 4009 03:02:49.479 --> 03:02:52.399 never ever use, and these aren't even sainct we don't like. 4010 03:02:52.559 --> 03:02:54.200 It's like we gotta do Me and Bianca Kyle, we're 4011 03:02:54.200 --> 03:02:55.840 gonna get together. We're gonna do our cradors and stuff like, 4012 03:02:55.920 --> 03:02:58.319 not for not for content, not for Giant. 4013 03:02:58.639 --> 03:02:59.360 I want to play together. 4014 03:03:00.000 --> 03:03:02.319 Seems like a really fun experience, like Arc Creators is 4015 03:03:02.360 --> 03:03:04.520 one to be very very few games that does that. 4016 03:03:04.799 --> 03:03:09.440 I agree, I will say with our Creators, though the 4017 03:03:09.559 --> 03:03:12.360 experience is very different solo, and it's almost like it's 4018 03:03:12.680 --> 03:03:15.040 enjoy now. I will don't know if I'd seem more enjoyable, 4019 03:03:15.079 --> 03:03:18.120 but there is there is value in playing it solo, 4020 03:03:18.239 --> 03:03:20.959 like I don't think. I don't know if that's more tense. 4021 03:03:21.840 --> 03:03:24.159 I like it, so I don't know that I prefer 4022 03:03:24.239 --> 03:03:26.319 it solo, but but it's more tense. 4023 03:03:26.280 --> 03:03:28.399 More cooperation too, I feel like because people are more 4024 03:03:28.440 --> 03:03:31.680 willing to work together ECU wait other people to help 4025 03:03:31.760 --> 03:03:33.959 it interesting. That's not to take away the fact of 4026 03:03:34.120 --> 03:03:35.360 what you said, and how much fun it is to 4027 03:03:35.360 --> 03:03:37.479 play with buds. But I do think like there is 4028 03:03:37.840 --> 03:03:40.959 something to be said about like our creators. It's it's 4029 03:03:41.120 --> 03:03:44.280 it's a game I play by myself, you know, peak, Yeah, 4030 03:03:44.479 --> 03:03:46.120 I have to play with people. Like I think I 4031 03:03:46.200 --> 03:03:47.719 did a run once by myself and I'm like this 4032 03:03:47.799 --> 03:03:50.600 is fine, but like I want you know, co op. 4033 03:03:50.760 --> 03:03:52.440 Yeah, And I think the winner of this category is 4034 03:03:52.479 --> 03:03:54.760 one that like really shines when it's multiplayer, and like, 4035 03:03:54.799 --> 03:03:57.319 for instance, I'll maybe cut one of mine here is Solemn. 4036 03:03:57.600 --> 03:03:59.440 It's a game grub and I are playing on a 4037 03:03:59.479 --> 03:04:02.280 giant bomb is a rogue light beat him up with 4038 03:04:02.360 --> 03:04:05.280 this beautiful art style. It's a very fun two player 4039 03:04:05.440 --> 03:04:07.479 rogue light beat him up. But I've also heard you 4040 03:04:07.520 --> 03:04:11.959 can play the whole thing snoring. Okay, oh sorry boring 4041 03:04:12.000 --> 03:04:17.319 you gizmo. This category suck move But I've talked to 4042 03:04:17.399 --> 03:04:20.559 friends who just got obsessed with the planet Solo and everything. 4043 03:04:20.600 --> 03:04:22.479 Like I saw him. It is just a really good game. 4044 03:04:22.719 --> 03:04:24.239 I don't think it's one where it's like, oh, this 4045 03:04:24.559 --> 03:04:26.920 needs to be like a multiplayer experience. Again, I think 4046 03:04:27.159 --> 03:04:29.280 it's not required for this category, but I think the 4047 03:04:29.319 --> 03:04:32.120 winners should be like this is a multiplayer. I think 4048 03:04:32.159 --> 03:04:32.600 that's true. 4049 03:04:32.639 --> 03:04:34.600 I think we should cut arc I think we should. 4050 03:04:34.840 --> 03:04:36.479 I think that even like you were telling me, like 4051 03:04:36.600 --> 03:04:38.559 Bonk likes to play it solo. I think this is 4052 03:04:38.680 --> 03:04:40.719 like a great game. I don't think it's perfect for 4053 03:04:40.799 --> 03:04:41.399 this category. 4054 03:04:41.479 --> 03:04:43.440 Yeah, if it's like the best game to play with buds, 4055 03:04:43.639 --> 03:04:46.680 and we're saying, well, Arc Raiders is good to play solo, 4056 03:04:46.799 --> 03:04:49.520 that's not an argument for keeping it. Yeah, you're you know, like, 4057 03:04:49.840 --> 03:04:53.200 can we cut Fortnite first? Though, Yeah, yeah, let's cut it. 4058 03:04:53.280 --> 03:04:55.399 I think the only reason the sake of cutting it, 4059 03:04:55.520 --> 03:04:57.239 let's cut it first. I guess the only reason I 4060 03:04:57.280 --> 03:04:59.280 want to play it is, like I wanted to mention 4061 03:04:59.399 --> 03:05:01.120 it was that this Simpson's thing came out this year. 4062 03:05:01.440 --> 03:05:03.799 It was like maybe one of the best, if not 4063 03:05:03.920 --> 03:05:06.680 the best, like IP integrations and a live game I've 4064 03:05:06.760 --> 03:05:09.239 ever seen. And you know, back home for the holidays 4065 03:05:09.280 --> 03:05:11.319 and online and stuff, I was playing with Kayla, and 4066 03:05:11.360 --> 03:05:12.440 you know, I was just like, oh, this is grinding 4067 03:05:12.440 --> 03:05:14.600 out this battle pass. I gotta get Homer, And I 4068 03:05:15.079 --> 03:05:17.440 just was reminded of how much fun Fortnite is to 4069 03:05:17.600 --> 03:05:19.760 just kind of like party up, Like it's a perfect 4070 03:05:19.760 --> 03:05:22.040 amount of like you need to pay enough attention to 4071 03:05:22.159 --> 03:05:23.920 kind of like coordinate and do stuff, but you can 4072 03:05:23.959 --> 03:05:25.680 also just kind of go around and chat and catch 4073 03:05:25.719 --> 03:05:27.639 up and stuff like that. So like Kayla and I, 4074 03:05:27.760 --> 03:05:29.520 I think I had like two nights up till like 4075 03:05:29.639 --> 03:05:33.239 four am over Thanksgiving, just like trying to like get Homer, 4076 03:05:33.319 --> 03:05:35.040 and it's like, man, this is a great time, you know. 4077 03:05:35.319 --> 03:05:37.719 So Fortnite continues to impress me. I don't played it 4078 03:05:37.799 --> 03:05:39.399 much at all since like last time we talked about 4079 03:05:39.399 --> 03:05:41.520 it during the Game of the Year Simpsons thing. Super 4080 03:05:41.559 --> 03:05:43.319 got me back in and I was reminded like, oh 4081 03:05:43.399 --> 03:05:44.319 Fortnite's fucking good. 4082 03:05:44.520 --> 03:05:47.520 Yeah, that's a really great ip for it to get. 4083 03:05:47.840 --> 03:05:52.239 Oh they killed it. Yeah, so we're cutting arc we 4084 03:05:52.280 --> 03:05:57.360 should Okay, So we got friend slops doing pretty strong here. 4085 03:05:58.200 --> 03:06:03.159 Battlefield six I had some really fun sessions with friends. 4086 03:06:03.719 --> 03:06:06.200 I also played a decent amount of its solo and 4087 03:06:06.319 --> 03:06:08.760 just played on a team because I was going for 4088 03:06:08.920 --> 03:06:10.959 challenges that I did not need people to be there for. 4089 03:06:11.239 --> 03:06:12.760 Well, I heard the campaigns where it shines. 4090 03:06:16.159 --> 03:06:19.600 I to say what you will about the campaign, I'm 4091 03:06:19.680 --> 03:06:23.159 just talking about the co op and the multiplayer. Yeah, 4092 03:06:23.200 --> 03:06:27.159 I enjoyed playing Battlefield six by myself as well multiplayer 4093 03:06:28.920 --> 03:06:31.879 because I wanted to pursue challenges or unluck new weapons 4094 03:06:32.040 --> 03:06:36.520 or you know, upgrade classes, et cetera. So I don't 4095 03:06:36.559 --> 03:06:38.360 know that that's necessarily those were my that was my 4096 03:06:38.520 --> 03:06:40.440 most memorable multiplayer game. 4097 03:06:41.520 --> 03:06:42.799 So we cut that, and I think we're down to 4098 03:06:42.840 --> 03:06:45.559 peak Repo, Lego Party and arby there yet. Now you 4099 03:06:45.559 --> 03:06:47.360 guys have not played the Lego Party before. You guys 4100 03:06:47.440 --> 03:06:49.159 know my history with Mario Party and everything and how 4101 03:06:49.440 --> 03:06:52.639 strongly I feel about those, like I do think as bullshit, 4102 03:06:52.760 --> 03:06:55.280 as like the Mario Party experiences, Like there is something 4103 03:06:55.399 --> 03:06:59.120 about that format of a game, a board game, party game, minigame, 4104 03:06:59.159 --> 03:07:02.159 bullshit game that is like, to me, the number one 4105 03:07:02.280 --> 03:07:05.159 way to play multiplayer where it's like, look, I'm sure 4106 03:07:05.159 --> 03:07:07.319 if I had three friends that were super into competitive 4107 03:07:07.319 --> 03:07:09.040 Smash Brothers and I knew what I was doing in 4108 03:07:09.120 --> 03:07:11.479 that game though, that would be amazing. But I feel 4109 03:07:11.520 --> 03:07:12.440 like Mario Party. 4110 03:07:12.959 --> 03:07:17.200 Yeah, Like to me, Mario Party, you just imagine playing 4111 03:07:17.280 --> 03:07:18.520 Lego Party by yourself. 4112 03:07:18.680 --> 03:07:21.600 Absolutely, not or Mario, but that's an insane thing to do. Yeah, 4113 03:07:21.760 --> 03:07:24.200 but like I think it's so perfect for like, you know, 4114 03:07:24.680 --> 03:07:26.840 my memories of Mario Party and now Lego Party. It's 4115 03:07:26.920 --> 03:07:29.239 kind of turned to is like, you got two in 4116 03:07:29.319 --> 03:07:32.920 my family, me and Kayla that play games all the 4117 03:07:33.000 --> 03:07:36.319 fucking time and we love it. But then Katie, my sister, 4118 03:07:37.079 --> 03:07:39.879 Kayla's twin, who doesn't really play many games, but she 4119 03:07:39.959 --> 03:07:42.120 loved Mario Party. You know, it's not it doesn't require 4120 03:07:42.319 --> 03:07:44.479 like you don't have to play games to understand, like 4121 03:07:44.520 --> 03:07:45.920 they're all like hit a and move a stick and 4122 03:07:45.959 --> 03:07:49.200 stuff like that, and moving forward real quick to Lego Party. 4123 03:07:49.680 --> 03:07:52.440 It everything that's ever been good about Mario Party is 4124 03:07:52.520 --> 03:07:54.559 in Lego Party and they've just made it all better 4125 03:07:54.639 --> 03:07:56.479 and snappier. And I'll probably talk about it more later. 4126 03:07:56.920 --> 03:08:02.799 But and even like Bank did, the hatred my wife 4127 03:08:02.840 --> 03:08:06.319 has for Mario Party runs so deep I should. I've 4128 03:08:06.399 --> 03:08:12.719 never seen her more unhappy. It's just, you know, grew 4129 03:08:12.879 --> 03:08:15.760 that inside of it. Wasn't the thing that she's been subjected. 4130 03:08:15.879 --> 03:08:17.479 This is from like the moment she played in the 4131 03:08:17.479 --> 03:08:18.760 first time. She's like, this fucking sucks. 4132 03:08:19.000 --> 03:08:20.799 She means, you mean, the games are just bad, and 4133 03:08:20.920 --> 03:08:22.760 she recognized it as someone with good taste. 4134 03:08:23.079 --> 03:08:26.520 She does have tastes. I will say it was. 4135 03:08:26.879 --> 03:08:30.520 Real fun today the one mass we played to funk 4136 03:08:30.559 --> 03:08:33.440 over Dan and we all he came in fourth, I 4137 03:08:33.479 --> 03:08:35.719 think out of all of us, it was there's no 4138 03:08:41.200 --> 03:08:47.719 total bullshit banana boys and their monkeys about yeah, but. 4139 03:08:49.399 --> 03:08:52.479 Yes, yes, I I felt looking at the map planning. 4140 03:08:52.520 --> 03:08:54.440 My that is the most I've ever thought of a 4141 03:08:55.639 --> 03:08:59.559 multiplayer party board game genre entry. 4142 03:08:59.479 --> 03:09:01.559 Instead of just like a battle of attrition, like just 4143 03:09:02.159 --> 03:09:04.040 need to get through it, it's not actually I was. 4144 03:09:04.159 --> 03:09:05.120 I was strategizing. 4145 03:09:05.639 --> 03:09:07.600 It was nice to strategize and be like, well, fuck 4146 03:09:07.639 --> 03:09:11.120 if Jake, if Jake the points across though, if Jake 4147 03:09:11.239 --> 03:09:15.200 reverses this quadrant, then I'm fucked. But oh, if I'm 4148 03:09:15.280 --> 03:09:18.079 win this minigame, I'll go before him and then I'll 4149 03:09:18.079 --> 03:09:19.639 get out of it, and then we get fucked Dan, 4150 03:09:20.319 --> 03:09:22.159 and then I'll get to the Banana. 4151 03:09:23.360 --> 03:09:23.920 Burglars. 4152 03:09:26.479 --> 03:09:29.520 And then if I get to the banana the first first, 4153 03:09:29.559 --> 03:09:31.879 they'll then rotate around and then I'll put them even 4154 03:09:31.920 --> 03:09:36.200 more out of Dan's reach. There was more intentionality, or 4155 03:09:36.239 --> 03:09:38.280 they allowed for more agency on my part in a 4156 03:09:38.319 --> 03:09:41.120 way that much as I love Nintendo and I'm just 4157 03:09:41.440 --> 03:09:44.280 I'm really just you know, dogging on you, because I 4158 03:09:44.319 --> 03:09:46.319 actually have had a lot of fun with Mario Party before. 4159 03:09:46.879 --> 03:09:50.319 I do often like there it always sets in halfway 4160 03:09:50.319 --> 03:09:53.120 through a Mario Party match where I'm like, it kind 4161 03:09:53.159 --> 03:09:54.079 of doesn't matter. 4162 03:09:54.200 --> 03:09:57.360 There's some blue shell esque thing that's gonna happen. Exactually, 4163 03:09:57.479 --> 03:09:59.479 like in Mario Party, you get annoyed if you're playing 4164 03:09:59.520 --> 03:10:00.920 with someone that's taking time to like go to the 4165 03:10:00.959 --> 03:10:02.520 map and plan it out, because in your head you're like, not, 4166 03:10:02.680 --> 03:10:03.479 nothing matters this one. 4167 03:10:03.559 --> 03:10:06.959 We all sat back and like let people strategize because 4168 03:10:07.000 --> 03:10:09.239 we're like, there, you can actually do that in this game. 4169 03:10:09.280 --> 03:10:11.840 But would I rather for this can turn in a turn? Yeah? 4170 03:10:11.879 --> 03:10:12.040 Yeah. 4171 03:10:12.079 --> 03:10:13.719 And the and the act of just doing it, like 4172 03:10:13.799 --> 03:10:15.239 just going to the map looking at thing like there's 4173 03:10:15.239 --> 03:10:16.639 just so many like oh, it tells me exactly how 4174 03:10:16.639 --> 03:10:17.959 many I need to get to this And like the 4175 03:10:18.239 --> 03:10:19.920 map is very readable and easy. There's not a lot 4176 03:10:19.959 --> 03:10:22.319 of just slowing down and talking to fourteen different shop 4177 03:10:22.360 --> 03:10:25.040 vendors on every fucking roll. It's just a snappier, better 4178 03:10:25.079 --> 03:10:27.360 Mario Party in every single way. Yeah. 4179 03:10:27.479 --> 03:10:30.360 I one thing from the one mass we played today. 4180 03:10:30.360 --> 03:10:32.760 I do think the mini games kind of lean very 4181 03:10:32.840 --> 03:10:34.399 heavily on like QT E stuff. 4182 03:10:35.840 --> 03:10:38.280 You know, we did twelve, So we did a twelve 4183 03:10:38.360 --> 03:10:39.840 round game and like, I remember, you were giving it 4184 03:10:39.840 --> 03:10:41.719 a little bit of shit because there were there were 4185 03:10:41.799 --> 03:10:44.000 like fifty many games in it, and not a lot 4186 03:10:44.040 --> 03:10:46.200 of them are the like we get a y B 4187 03:10:46.440 --> 03:10:48.159 X A y B and say we got three the 4188 03:10:48.280 --> 03:10:51.360 lock one lock, the one where it's all like in 4189 03:10:51.440 --> 03:10:53.959 a line, and there some really creative ones, the ones 4190 03:10:53.959 --> 03:10:57.159 where you're trying to balance the unicycle very tall race. Yeah, 4191 03:10:57.159 --> 03:10:57.639 that was fun. 4192 03:10:58.479 --> 03:11:00.920 There's the like, there's the I literally stood up off 4193 03:11:01.000 --> 03:11:02.920 the couch because I was Me and Mary were neck 4194 03:11:02.959 --> 03:11:05.000 and neck and then Mary fell across with her head 4195 03:11:05.000 --> 03:11:05.399 at the end. 4196 03:11:05.600 --> 03:11:08.719 Yeah, I had to tell Jake to stop locking in 4197 03:11:08.840 --> 03:11:12.159 because he kept leaning into my view of the because 4198 03:11:12.239 --> 03:11:15.840 he was trying to win. I think there's good mini 4199 03:11:15.920 --> 03:11:19.879 games with it, and I have some reservations about just 4200 03:11:20.120 --> 03:11:23.920 the the caliber of games in it, but it is 4201 03:11:24.280 --> 03:11:25.239 it is fun to play. 4202 03:11:25.639 --> 03:11:27.319 I want to say, I feel like I'm the person 4203 03:11:27.360 --> 03:11:28.639 who played RV there Yet. 4204 03:11:29.239 --> 03:11:33.200 This game is so built to play with people and 4205 03:11:33.360 --> 03:11:35.280 maybe someone who's not a gamer. 4206 03:11:35.760 --> 03:11:37.479 We talked about that a lot with Split Fiction. 4207 03:11:37.680 --> 03:11:40.440 But what's amazing with RV There Yet is like, let's 4208 03:11:40.440 --> 03:11:42.959 say three of you guys are solid gamers and one 4209 03:11:43.040 --> 03:11:45.120 of you is like, I don't know, guys like I'm 4210 03:11:45.159 --> 03:11:48.760 not that good good news. And RV has three seats 4211 03:11:48.799 --> 03:11:52.280 in one driver. You get to sit and enjoy the game. 4212 03:11:52.479 --> 03:11:55.239 You can play. You can be the cook that makes 4213 03:11:55.319 --> 03:11:59.680 the burgers smoke. You can smoke and judge people. 4214 03:12:00.319 --> 03:12:03.360 You do need cooperation because somebody has to take the 4215 03:12:04.520 --> 03:12:09.399 winch the winch and connect it to a tree, and 4216 03:12:09.479 --> 03:12:13.200 then there's a separate remote device to use the winch. 4217 03:12:13.559 --> 03:12:15.920 So you need cooperation this game. You can't. 4218 03:12:15.920 --> 03:12:17.559 You should not play this game alone. You should play 4219 03:12:17.559 --> 03:12:19.639 it with others. But I love the fact that it 4220 03:12:19.760 --> 03:12:22.159 is inclusive of someone who's like I just want to 4221 03:12:22.319 --> 03:12:22.799 be here. 4222 03:12:23.120 --> 03:12:25.159 You have ritten for that person on that point though, 4223 03:12:25.239 --> 03:12:26.719 Like let's say you have someone who's like not a 4224 03:12:26.760 --> 03:12:28.559 big game or whatever, they're casual or whatever. This is 4225 03:12:28.639 --> 03:12:31.920 just a game that's on PC, right, Yes, so think 4226 03:12:31.920 --> 03:12:33.959 about this too. The thing about Lego Party as well 4227 03:12:34.079 --> 03:12:36.440 is it is cross platform. So it's like I've got 4228 03:12:36.559 --> 03:12:39.799 everything I'm gonna play on PC. Kayla never touches a 4229 03:12:39.840 --> 03:12:42.600 PC game ever, She's gonna play on PlayStation or Switch. 4230 03:12:42.760 --> 03:12:45.879 And then Katie my casual gamer sister. She's just got 4231 03:12:45.920 --> 03:12:48.559 a switch. That's the only thing she has, and we 4232 03:12:48.639 --> 03:12:50.600 can still all play together if we want to play online. 4233 03:12:50.639 --> 03:12:53.079 So it is very conducive to that, like the idea 4234 03:12:53.079 --> 03:12:55.159 of like a casual gamer or someone that doesn't really 4235 03:12:55.159 --> 03:12:57.840 play games, they don't know what Steam is, you know, 4236 03:12:58.200 --> 03:13:00.280 but they have a switch. Probably they might, you know. So, 4237 03:13:00.399 --> 03:13:03.479 like I do think Lego Party is just like this 4238 03:13:03.879 --> 03:13:06.520 is the like whether it's on a couch, whether it's online, 4239 03:13:06.680 --> 03:13:09.719 it's just it's kind of made for multiplayer in a way, 4240 03:13:09.840 --> 03:13:12.479 and there's less barriers, you know. I think it's more accessible. 4241 03:13:12.760 --> 03:13:14.600 If I had three people say do you want to 4242 03:13:14.600 --> 03:13:16.840 play a game tonight, I would choose RV there Yet 4243 03:13:16.959 --> 03:13:17.959 more than Lego Party. 4244 03:13:18.040 --> 03:13:24.319 I would prefer to play RV there Yet. I think 4245 03:13:24.360 --> 03:13:27.120 I agree with you, but I can't tell who you're 4246 03:13:27.159 --> 03:13:35.440 looking at in our general direction. I'm like, that's the point. 4247 03:13:37.879 --> 03:13:40.920 Okay, So Mary's made a pretty good case for r 4248 03:13:40.959 --> 03:13:42.600 V there Yet, Dan, you've made a good case for 4249 03:13:42.719 --> 03:13:45.479 Lego Party in peak seems like immovable. 4250 03:13:45.879 --> 03:13:46.479 I'd say I. 4251 03:13:46.520 --> 03:13:49.120 Think the winner for me, I wouldn't. 4252 03:13:49.280 --> 03:13:49.840 I don't. 4253 03:13:49.920 --> 03:13:51.799 It's really hard for me to say any other game 4254 03:13:51.920 --> 03:13:54.719 is better to play this year with buds than Peak. 4255 03:13:54.840 --> 03:13:56.920 If there's one argument I will say against the Friends 4256 03:13:56.920 --> 03:13:59.680 Slap Stuff, which I love all these games, is that 4257 03:14:00.040 --> 03:14:01.799 there is kind of a one note thing to this. 4258 03:14:01.920 --> 03:14:03.840 Like Peak, you are kind of just you're trying to 4259 03:14:03.840 --> 03:14:05.680 climb that mountain. Repo, you're trying to put stuff in 4260 03:14:05.719 --> 03:14:09.040 a cart? Are we there? No, you're trying to get bricks? Well, right, 4261 03:14:09.120 --> 03:14:11.280 But there is there's a lot more variety within that. 4262 03:14:11.559 --> 03:14:14.399 You know, there is strategy there. There's numerous different board games, 4263 03:14:14.440 --> 03:14:16.879 there's fifty different mini games. There is like different strategies 4264 03:14:16.879 --> 03:14:19.079 step can do and everything like Peak, Repo, are we 4265 03:14:19.120 --> 03:14:21.479 there yet? Is just kind of like gotta get up there, 4266 03:14:21.719 --> 03:14:23.479 gotta get this stuff, gotta move this RV. 4267 03:14:23.680 --> 03:14:26.440 You're hurting yourself. Lego Party, you're just trying to get 4268 03:14:26.479 --> 03:14:28.559 bricks and you're just trying to get money, and you're 4269 03:14:28.600 --> 03:14:31.360 doing anything you can to do the very simplest things. 4270 03:14:31.600 --> 03:14:33.239 I cannot tell you how many times we were playing 4271 03:14:33.280 --> 03:14:35.840 today we were like, how many steps am I away 4272 03:14:35.920 --> 03:14:38.079 from buying this thing with fifty dollars? 4273 03:14:38.200 --> 03:14:40.319 Like that's not that innovative or interesting. 4274 03:14:40.639 --> 03:14:43.280 But in Peak, the items you get are randomized, I 4275 03:14:43.440 --> 03:14:46.200 cannot get up the mountain the same way. Ever, even 4276 03:14:46.239 --> 03:14:48.520 if we try again and again and again, and this 4277 03:14:48.719 --> 03:14:52.520 mountain the algorithm changes of every design and every level 4278 03:14:52.600 --> 03:14:55.559 every twenty four hours. This game is one hundred percent different. 4279 03:14:55.799 --> 03:14:58.440 But even when I play the same mountains. 4280 03:14:58.040 --> 03:15:03.479 Well, yeah, I mean we're making a good argument, but they're. 4281 03:15:03.399 --> 03:15:06.959 Changing even like the level variety and the size, because 4282 03:15:06.959 --> 03:15:09.399 they have different biomes, so you might as you could 4283 03:15:09.399 --> 03:15:12.399 pick right at the beginning, right, yes, And they're also randomized, 4284 03:15:12.639 --> 03:15:14.280 so you don't know if you're going to get a 4285 03:15:14.360 --> 03:15:16.440 lot more lollipops, or if you're going to get the cannon, 4286 03:15:16.639 --> 03:15:18.399 or if you're going to get a bunch of ropes 4287 03:15:19.000 --> 03:15:21.360 that completely changes how you're going to climb. 4288 03:15:21.479 --> 03:15:23.479 Let me offer something here. I want to get Lego 4289 03:15:23.559 --> 03:15:26.360 Party on the top three, because right now it's Lego 4290 03:15:26.399 --> 03:15:28.639 Party and three friends slop games, three very good friends 4291 03:15:28.680 --> 03:15:31.639 slop games. Yeah, I will argue that of the three 4292 03:15:31.760 --> 03:15:35.639 friend slop Repo is maybe the weakest game. So I 4293 03:15:35.719 --> 03:15:39.520 would offer take Repo off, put Lego Party on, and 4294 03:15:39.600 --> 03:15:42.639 Lego Party doesn't have to win. Peak can win, don't. 4295 03:15:42.680 --> 03:15:47.200 I've played doing my job before me, I've played Lego 4296 03:15:47.280 --> 03:15:47.840 Party today. 4297 03:15:47.959 --> 03:15:49.399 I've played Repo and I played Peak. 4298 03:15:49.399 --> 03:15:51.200 I've not played every there yet, and everything I hear 4299 03:15:51.239 --> 03:15:54.079 about it, I want to play Repo. I had a 4300 03:15:54.200 --> 03:15:55.639 very fun night with you guys, and then I played 4301 03:15:55.639 --> 03:15:58.159 with a couple of friends. I'm like, all right, I 4302 03:15:58.639 --> 03:16:02.719 had more longevity with Lethal Company and way more with Fasmophobia, 4303 03:16:02.760 --> 03:16:04.399 and I feel like it's in that same camp. It's like, 4304 03:16:04.639 --> 03:16:08.479 enter this area and it's hilarious and extract some stuff 4305 03:16:08.559 --> 03:16:12.239 for the various values. But I also I really feel 4306 03:16:12.280 --> 03:16:14.000 like that ran out of juice quickly. 4307 03:16:14.239 --> 03:16:15.639 And when there is the surprise of like, you know, 4308 03:16:15.760 --> 03:16:17.520 as much as we laughed at like oh my god, 4309 03:16:17.520 --> 03:16:19.360 I'm vomiting or owe, this thing is like can reverse 4310 03:16:19.399 --> 03:16:21.920 my controls? That's fucking hilarious the first time it happens. 4311 03:16:21.920 --> 03:16:23.559 If you don't know what's going on, if you're really 4312 03:16:23.600 --> 03:16:25.799 playing that game more than a couple of times, it's 4313 03:16:25.920 --> 03:16:27.680 how quickly is it going to turn into like, Oh 4314 03:16:27.799 --> 03:16:29.479 I got this thing, I gotta here's how I get 4315 03:16:29.520 --> 03:16:31.360 past there? Okay, now I just need to reverse my 4316 03:16:31.440 --> 03:16:35.159 controls whatever, Like it loses the novelty haha factor and 4317 03:16:35.239 --> 03:16:37.000 it's more just another thing that happens. 4318 03:16:37.159 --> 03:16:43.360 You know, I think, oh oh, we're gonna cut Repo 4319 03:16:44.440 --> 03:16:47.079 and Peak is going to be the best game play 4320 03:16:47.079 --> 03:16:47.440 with buds. 4321 03:16:47.479 --> 03:16:49.840 Okay, I'll take it. I'll take it. That's a fair judgment. 4322 03:16:49.879 --> 03:16:51.879 That's a fair judgment. Thank you, your honor, and thank you, 4323 03:16:51.920 --> 03:16:55.920 yourn say it again. Thank thank you, your honor. Mary. 4324 03:16:56.159 --> 03:16:56.840 It's ten dy time. 4325 03:16:58.959 --> 03:16:59.799 Thank you your honor. 4326 03:17:00.319 --> 03:17:04.479 Thank you. That's fair. That's fair. That feels fair. That 4327 03:17:04.479 --> 03:17:04.840 feels good. 4328 03:17:05.479 --> 03:17:08.200 The best game to play with buds. The runner ups 4329 03:17:08.319 --> 03:17:12.120 are are We There Yet? And Lego Party, but the 4330 03:17:12.159 --> 03:17:13.559 winner is Peak. 4331 03:17:15.840 --> 03:17:17.079 Yeah that feels that feels right. 4332 03:17:17.200 --> 03:17:20.280 I feel I prefer Repo, but I think Lego Party 4333 03:17:20.360 --> 03:17:22.600 is tired, tired, tired. 4334 03:17:23.079 --> 03:17:29.760 I said what I said. There was a look of 4335 03:17:29.840 --> 03:17:33.840 glee on your face. Lost. Those monkeys did their fucking throw. 4336 03:17:34.840 --> 03:17:44.479 We'll get to the monkeys. Yeah, yeah, okay, h 4337 03:17:53.120 --> 03:18:00.079 H what