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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the

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<v Speaker 2>iHeartRadio app. It's Tiffany Hobbs here with you. It's Saturdays

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<v Speaker 2>with Tiffany. And if you are a USC fan and

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<v Speaker 2>alum like myself, I hope Petro's Papadakus is listening one

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<v Speaker 2>of my fellow schoolmates there, then you recognize this song.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it just puts me in a good.

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<v Speaker 2>Space, a really good space. It's almost patriotic. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>USC fight song. Thank you Raoul for that sends a

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<v Speaker 2>little shiver down my spine because I remember being an

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<v Speaker 2>undergrad and hearing that song and what it signified. What

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<v Speaker 2>it symbolized was so much school pride.

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<v Speaker 3>But a lot of people right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now are dealing with some complicated emotions surrounding USC and

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<v Speaker 2>their tuition. We had to start the show with our song,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will get into what's going on with USC's

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<v Speaker 2>tuition in just a moment. Welcome to the show, everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>What a show we have. Not only will we be

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<v Speaker 2>covering the local news, there's some big local stories, but

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<v Speaker 2>we will talk to our resident legal correspondent who will

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<v Speaker 2>be on with us at five point thirty Louise Shapiro

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<v Speaker 2>about some major cases that are in the news, from

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<v Speaker 2>updates on the Menindez brothers, to what's going on with

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<v Speaker 2>that OC superior or judge judge oh goodness, what is

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<v Speaker 2>his name, Judge Jeff Ferguson, And.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been in the news, and we'll give you.

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<v Speaker 2>Some updates as to why he has been, as well

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<v Speaker 2>as covering what's going on with that Columbia student who

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<v Speaker 2>may or may not be deported.

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<v Speaker 3>Mamood Khalil and.

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<v Speaker 2>Lou Shapiro will talk to us about that from a

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<v Speaker 2>legal perspective. We always love when he comes on with

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<v Speaker 2>his insight and his legal expertise. That's at five point thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>At six o'clock, we're gonna take a deeper dive.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna look.

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<v Speaker 2>At why Los Angeles streets might be safe in some regards.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of those regards is certainly certainly not as

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<v Speaker 2>a driver, as a commuter, or even as a pedestrian

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<v Speaker 2>for that matter, because of how many severe and fatal

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<v Speaker 2>car crashes we experience every year. So we'll get into

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with safety on our streets. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that are compromising safety and what we have

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<v Speaker 2>to look forward to as we get closer to these

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<v Speaker 2>major events in the next few years where our streets

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<v Speaker 2>will certainly be crowded. Then at six point thirty we

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<v Speaker 2>will have Marcus Coval. He's the founder of Liam's Life Foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you've been listening to KFI, Heather Brooker's been

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Marcus and the Liams Life Foundation in her newscast.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark is running the LA Marathon tomorrow for his son,

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<v Speaker 2>and he will tell us why, what led to this

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<v Speaker 2>moment and what Liam's Life Foundation aims to get as

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<v Speaker 2>he runs this marathon and going forward, and it has

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<v Speaker 2>to do with blood alcohol content levels, sobriety and ebriation,

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<v Speaker 2>driving while drunk, all of those things. And I'll let

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus explain his story when he comes on at six thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>And before we go any further, can we just take

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<v Speaker 2>a moment to mourn the likely passing of EGLT number

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<v Speaker 2>three or number two or number one. We're not quite

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<v Speaker 2>sure which eglit it is. But of the three eglts

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<v Speaker 2>that we all have been watching and covering on the

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<v Speaker 2>news on your social media through the Friends of Big

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<v Speaker 2>Bear Valley live cam, unfortunately one of the Eglitz has

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<v Speaker 2>been confirmed as having passed away. We don't know the cause.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm giving an obituary for Elit. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't know the cause. We don't know what's happening in

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<v Speaker 2>the aftermath or what will happen now in the aftermath

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<v Speaker 2>of the passing of the eglet. There's lots of speculation

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<v Speaker 2>about what mom and dad Jackie in Shadow may do.

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<v Speaker 2>But what we do know is that the Friends of

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<v Speaker 2>Big Bear Valley have confirmed, unfortunately that one of those

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<v Speaker 2>little eglts has in fact passed away, leaving two. But

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<v Speaker 2>as we just saw with an update, the two remaining

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<v Speaker 2>eglets are doing well. They're thriving, They're strong, and they're thriving.

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<v Speaker 2>People have been asking customary question, you know, yesterday, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you have plans for the weekend? Tiffany, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing this weekend? And I'm like, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>What am I? What are I'm sitting in front of

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<v Speaker 2>my camera or in front of my screen, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>watching Friends of Big Bear Valley and this live stream

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<v Speaker 2>of these eglets.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all I care to do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I find myself doing in between anything else

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<v Speaker 2>I have planned. I have been glued to the screen

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<v Speaker 2>finding out what's going on with these cute little eglets,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're very dedicated parents. I suggest you do the same.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find a live stream on YouTube. You can

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<v Speaker 2>find all these stories on the KFI website as well

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<v Speaker 2>as we continue to update the progress of.

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<v Speaker 3>These little eglts.

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<v Speaker 2>It is riveting, it is interesting, and unfortunately it's taken

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<v Speaker 2>a sad turn, but it's definitely something that we are

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<v Speaker 2>lucky to see. We're lucky to see there are one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and ten feet up, I think, so the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that we can see what's going on moment by moment

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<v Speaker 2>is nothing short of a technological miracle. So check out

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie's shadow and they're two remaining eglts and wish them well.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Something else I would love to wish well, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, would be the new USC students who are

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<v Speaker 2>coming in. Those students who are expecting to start in

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<v Speaker 2>August become freshmen at USC, my alma mater, and unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a huge discrepancy between when I started at USC

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and one and what students are facing

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty and twenty five and what they will continue

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<v Speaker 2>to face. As the trend goes on. And what that

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<v Speaker 2>trend is is an increase in tuition, an increase intuition

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<v Speaker 2>that is happening yearly.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not a small increase.

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<v Speaker 2>No, We're talking ten thousand dollars over the last five

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<v Speaker 2>years now amounting two almost ninety nine thousand dollars for

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<v Speaker 2>tuition per year at USC. That mirrors the increase of

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<v Speaker 2>last year. Again, this is a trend. It's going, it's going.

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<v Speaker 2>They've raised tuition for the sixth year in a row,

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<v Speaker 2>and again that estimated cost of attendance is just shy

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<v Speaker 2>of one hundred thousand dollars. Under President Carol Folks Tenure.

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<v Speaker 2>The increase has to do with rises and costs for

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<v Speaker 2>tuition fees, other necessities, how textbooks and meal plans. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think when USC does really well, as they are

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<v Speaker 2>with their basketball program, with their football program, things have

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<v Speaker 2>to compensate and tuition goes up. Of course, USC has

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<v Speaker 2>been approached for comment about this and they've said they

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<v Speaker 2>have no comment.

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<v Speaker 3>Either pay or don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're paying, expect to pay nearly one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars per year for undergraduate education at USC. If

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<v Speaker 2>you have children who are under eighteen. I have something

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<v Speaker 2>else to warn you of. If you're planning to visit

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<v Speaker 2>a hotel in California, you may not be able to

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<v Speaker 2>take your kids because this hotel has just instituted a

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<v Speaker 2>ban on all children or all guests under the age

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<v Speaker 2>of eighteen. I'll tell you the name of the hotel,

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<v Speaker 2>what they're planning on doing, and why they could find

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<v Speaker 2>themselves in hot water. On the other side of the break,

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<v Speaker 2>It's Saturday with Tiffany from five to seven. Glad to

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<v Speaker 2>Until seven tonight, and we are with friend of the station,

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<v Speaker 2>Friend of the show, Louse Shapiro. Wonderful attorney offers great

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<v Speaker 2>insight into current cases, which we'll be getting into shortly,

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<v Speaker 2>but before we do any of that, Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 2>Saturdays with Tiffany. Lou Thanks for coming on with us.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Always enjoyed being with you and love your energy.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you louse.

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<v Speaker 2>Shapiro, Like I said, I you are friend of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm hoping that we can have you on with

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<v Speaker 2>regularity because I just love the opinions that you have

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<v Speaker 2>and the facts that you inform us of. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for being willing to come on. Can we

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<v Speaker 2>get into some cases.

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<v Speaker 4>Shapiro, Let's jump right into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So the very first case I want to discuss is

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with this judge, this Orange County Superior

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<v Speaker 2>Court judge, Jeff Ferguson. He just completed a murder trial.

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<v Speaker 2>And I say completed and with a bit of nuance.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not as easy, not as cut and dry as that.

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<v Speaker 2>But this case, a murder trial, ended in a mistrial

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<v Speaker 2>after eight days of deliberation, in which the jury deadlocked

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<v Speaker 2>eleven to one. Eleven said guilty, one said not guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>The charge Jeff Ferguson is being charged with, or was

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<v Speaker 2>being accused of, shooting and killing his wife, Sheila Ferguson

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<v Speaker 2>Cheryl Ferguson in twenty twenty three, after a dinner in

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<v Speaker 2>which they enjoyed themselves drank heavily, went back to their

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<v Speaker 2>home in Anaheim Hills and what Jeff Ferguson said happened

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<v Speaker 2>is what is causing a lot of confusion, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of dissension, and what maybe led to this one holdout.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Ferguson, this OC judge, said that he got home,

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<v Speaker 2>he was having an exchange with his wife. He had

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<v Speaker 2>a gun and a holster on his ankle. He took

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<v Speaker 2>it on a table. As he attempted to put the

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<v Speaker 2>gun on the table, his shoulder gave out. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what he's saying. His shoulder gave out, and as he

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<v Speaker 2>tried to put the gun down, there was just this kerfuffle,

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<v Speaker 2>this fumble, and it resulted in the gun going off

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<v Speaker 2>and shooting his wife, Sheryl Ferguson, square center in the chest.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I've never shot anyone. The night is still young.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows traffic is bad, We'll see, But I do

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<v Speaker 2>know if I were to injure anyone, the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm doing is I'm attempting to render aid. And

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<v Speaker 2>what's being said is that Jeff Ferguson did not render

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<v Speaker 2>a to his dying wife in that moment. Yet, with

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<v Speaker 2>all of the evidence pointing towards something that may have malice.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as intent, he is now dealing with the mistrial.

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<v Speaker 4>This is it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Pausing effectively until the next steps. So if I may

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<v Speaker 2>ask you, what do you think, lou, why do you

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<v Speaker 2>think this deadlock eleven to one verdict actually happened?

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<v Speaker 4>All right? So it really comes down to intent versus accident.

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<v Speaker 4>The defense was that Ferguson accidentally shot his wife when

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<v Speaker 4>he put that gun on the table, like you set out.

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<v Speaker 4>The prosecution painted a different picture and they really focused

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<v Speaker 4>in on two facts that showed it was intentional versus accidental.

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<v Speaker 4>One was the fact that he and his wife were

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<v Speaker 4>a heated argument, words aren't being exchanged, there is somewhat

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<v Speaker 4>motive there to do something like that. And again, if

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<v Speaker 4>somebody is under the influence of alcohol severely, then they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to do things that they wouldn't normally do. But

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<v Speaker 4>if they're angry, drunk, bad argument, bad things can happen

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<v Speaker 4>from that. The other piece of evidence that they presented

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<v Speaker 4>with the text that he sent to his staff after

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<v Speaker 4>and his text was I just lost it. I just

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<v Speaker 4>shot my wife. I won't be in tomorrow. I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>I think focusing on I just lost it was an

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<v Speaker 4>admission of I can't believe what I just did intentionally,

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that text, coupled with the argument that

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<v Speaker 4>they were in, was too much for the majority of

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that makes sense to me, and that is sensible.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that perhaps the district attorney came in

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, had they just asked for a manslaughter then they

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<v Speaker 4>almost certainly would have gotten a conviction, because the eleven

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<v Speaker 4>lesser charge. If they're agreeing to murder. It was that

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<v Speaker 4>one holdout was like, I'm not willing to go to

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<v Speaker 4>the murder, I'm willing to go to manslaughter. Then they

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<v Speaker 4>his age getting a manslaughter conviction. He's seventy two years old.

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<v Speaker 4>Manslaughter with the gun. It's not a walk in the park,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a life sentence at that point.

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<v Speaker 4>For Yeah, that's right, at that point, it's very right. So,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's not also how Orange County rules. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>very conservati jurisdiction. When they prosecute, they like to go,

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<v Speaker 4>they like to show the full effect of the law,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what they did in this case. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>why they're going to be retrying him exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I wanted to get to finally, for

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<v Speaker 2>this to wrap up with this case before we go

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<v Speaker 2>on to the next. But DA Todd Spitzer out there

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<v Speaker 2>in Orange County, as you said, very conservative area, and

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<v Speaker 2>they are heavy handed. They do invest in strategies that

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<v Speaker 2>do push the furthest extent of the law and what

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think is next?

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<v Speaker 2>I know Todd Spitzer is saying they're retrying this case

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<v Speaker 2>in a few weeks. What do you forecast as far

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<v Speaker 2>as what's coming for Judge Fergus.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so if you were, Judge Ferguson, You're going to

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<v Speaker 4>want to try this case as many times as possible

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<v Speaker 4>to avoid going in on a life sentence. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>very tasking to go to trial. It's financially draining, emotionally

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<v Speaker 4>draining and all that, but it sure beats being in

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<v Speaker 4>a victory. He did not expect to walk out with

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<v Speaker 4>a not guilty in this case. So a hung jury

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<v Speaker 4>for the defense is the best on these facts that

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<v Speaker 4>probably one could walk away with, and he got that.

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<v Speaker 4>So while it may not appear that way to the

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<v Speaker 4>public that he had a victory from an legal perspective,

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<v Speaker 4>given what he was facing and dealing with, he did

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for that analysis.

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<v Speaker 2>You definitely it educated me more on what's going on because,

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<v Speaker 2>like many in the country, I was wondering, how could

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<v Speaker 2>this happen? Seemed very cut and dry, But like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of nuance when it comes to these

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<v Speaker 2>anyway from those gray areas. Lou Can we keep you

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<v Speaker 2>on to talk about the Menindez Brothers. In the next segment,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you say yes, looking forward to it?

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>We just covered Judge Ferguson and now we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting into what's going on with the Menindez brothers. They

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<v Speaker 2>seem to not go away, and you would think after

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five years at this point, I think, Lou, that

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<v Speaker 2>this story would start to wane. But with the popularity

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<v Speaker 2>of the Netflix series, with the popularity of this resurgence

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<v Speaker 2>and interest in the case of the Menindez brothers, there

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot more possibilities on the table, and one

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<v Speaker 2>of those possibilities about the future for Eric and Lyle

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<v Speaker 2>Menindez is a potential resentencing. However, our new DA Nathan

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<v Speaker 2>Hakman is not a fan of the Menindez brothers, seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>like George Gascone was. And Nathan Hawkman has said that

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<v Speaker 2>he is not going to hear any cause for a

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<v Speaker 2>reduction in sentence due to quote legitimate reasons. What does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean, Lou What is what does Nathan Hakman have

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<v Speaker 2>on the Mendez brothers.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Nathan Hoffman is coming from the position that there's

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to look at a case very carefully and

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<v Speaker 4>early before showing any type of leniency. And in this situation,

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<v Speaker 4>his review of the case, he says, shows that the

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<v Speaker 4>Menendez brothers for years, lied, presented false evidence, did not

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<v Speaker 4>take accountability for their actions. And he says, unless than

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<v Speaker 4>until they are willing to say and take ownership of

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<v Speaker 4>what they did instead of trying to, let's say, justify

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<v Speaker 4>or explain it. He says, if they're willing to do that,

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<v Speaker 4>then we will reconsider our position and Hawkman knows that

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<v Speaker 4>they're probably not going to do that because that would

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<v Speaker 4>cut against everything that they have stood for up until now.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that, given the popularity of the net

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<v Speaker 2>series and again this interest renewed interest in the case,

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<v Speaker 2>that the Menendez brothers may be receiving preferential treatment when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to these additional looks at their cases. Is

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<v Speaker 4>So? I think a lot of people sitting in custody

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<v Speaker 4>are hearing about this case, and there's resentment. They're asking

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<v Speaker 4>their friends and family, why do the Menendez brothers get

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<v Speaker 4>all these second looks at their case? What about my case?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, everybody has a story, and the Menendez brothers

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<v Speaker 4>had the fortune of their story being told over several

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<v Speaker 4>types of documentaries and this one caught fire and the

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<v Speaker 4>therefore it's helping them sort of get into that spotlight

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<v Speaker 4>and get several different looks at the case. So, in

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<v Speaker 4>a sense, yes, they are getting preferential treatment. Is it

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<v Speaker 4>amounting to anything though practically for them so far it

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<v Speaker 4>has not. It has just been disappointment after disappointment. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>see what Newsan does, and I'm sure we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>Now d A Hawkman again is not presenting himself as

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<v Speaker 2>Seem to have quite a few fans that they're amassing.

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<v Speaker 2>He talked about not meeting Da Hawkman, not meeting the

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<v Speaker 2>criteria for resentencing. What would that criteria look like, what

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<v Speaker 2>does that entail? How could the Menandez brothers in fact

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<v Speaker 2>qualify for resentencing.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's saying that he's willing to consider resentencing if

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<v Speaker 4>they are willing to take ownership of certain facts in

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<v Speaker 4>the case that they haven't yet done. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 4>he wants them to admit that this murder of their

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<v Speaker 4>parents was thoroughly planned out, that where they bought the gun,

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<v Speaker 4>why they left out of La County to get it,

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<v Speaker 4>they how they why they bought the movie ticket that night.

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<v Speaker 4>He wants all that to be like, this is what

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<v Speaker 4>we did, this is why did it. A big issue

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<v Speaker 4>for Hawkman is the what's called lack of like imminency.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you're going to argue self defense, then generally

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<v Speaker 4>you have to shoot first. That is traditionally self defense

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<v Speaker 4>and Hawkman is saying that this is not that case,

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<v Speaker 4>and the Menenda's brothers have been trying to paint the

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<v Speaker 4>like they were facing imminent danger from their parents. Were

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<v Speaker 4>they facing danger, He's saying, maybe, But was it imminent?

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<v Speaker 4>Did they have to go get a gun and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>do what they did. Maybe they could have gone to

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<v Speaker 4>law enforcement instead. Do they have time to do that?

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<v Speaker 4>If they had time to go out of La County

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<v Speaker 4>and get a gun and get a movie ticket and

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<v Speaker 4>plan alibis and all that, then they probably have time

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<v Speaker 4>what he wants to hear from Menendo's brothers to consider,

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<v Speaker 4>resentencing that.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants them to admit that they did it, and

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<v Speaker 2>that they meant to do it in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>None of this oh we had cause or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we were kind of back and forth about it. He

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<v Speaker 2>wants it to be very black and white. We did it,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're taking full responsibility. Precisely, before I let you go,

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<v Speaker 2>a half about what's going on with this Columbia student.

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<v Speaker 2>His name is Mahmoud Khalil. He's facing deportation after being

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<v Speaker 2>and that anyone in this position, a protester on a

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<v Speaker 2>are not going to as an administration allow for this

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<v Speaker 2>sort of protesting to go on.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think is going to happen with this case.

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<v Speaker 4>Lou Okay, So we're hearing a lot of back and

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<v Speaker 4>forth on this case, and there's there's something very important

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<v Speaker 4>that's missing in the discussion that I think will turn

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<v Speaker 4>on this and that is was it just speech or

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<v Speaker 4>was it action as well? Yes, Khalil was just engaged

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<v Speaker 4>in speeds as hateful and as offensive as it can

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<v Speaker 4>be to other students. Free speech is generally protected in

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<v Speaker 4>this country unless it is going to incite violence, right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's really the only exception where the government can get

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<v Speaker 4>it can infringe on that. So a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>are rushing judgment on both sides, but those facts need

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<v Speaker 4>to be fleshed out. What exactly was he doing on

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<v Speaker 4>this campus? Did he take over the library? Did he

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<v Speaker 4>not take over the library. Was he involved in that?

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<v Speaker 4>Was he not involved in that? What was was it

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<v Speaker 4>just speech? Was it more than that? And until that

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<v Speaker 4>comes out, it's really hard for anyone to say this

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<v Speaker 4>know how social media is. There's always that rush to

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<v Speaker 4>judgment on both sides, and I don't think that's ever

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Lou, I certainly enjoy your judgment, your analysis. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for weighing in on what's going on with Judge

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Ferguson out of Orange County, the Menindez Brothers update,

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<v Speaker 2>and that quick and very again insightful analysis of what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on with Columbia student my mood Khalil.

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<v Speaker 3>I always enjoy you.

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<v Speaker 2>You are welcome back anytime, Lou Shapiro, friend of the

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<v Speaker 2>station and friend of mine, and again I thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for your time.

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<v Speaker 4>You got it. Always good to be with you. Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>just heard Lou Shapiro, attorney Lou Shapiro on to talk

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<v Speaker 2>covered here at the station, and he gave his insight

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<v Speaker 2>and analysis about what's going on with the Menindez brothers,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with Judge Ferguson out of Orange County,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with that Columbia student who's facing deportation,

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<v Speaker 2>Mahmood Khalil. So make sure you listen back to that

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<v Speaker 2>on KFIAM six forty dot com under special features. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a wonderful, wonderful conversation, and we always love to

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<v Speaker 2>have Lou on something else that we're tracking. It's coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of the KFI News Center and they again will

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<v Speaker 2>continue sharing developments with us through the course of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump has now launched what is being considered the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest US military operation in the Middle East since he

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<v Speaker 2>took office. What happened, well, President Trump launched this military

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<v Speaker 2>operation in Yemen against the Houthis, and what he is

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<v Speaker 2>saying is that what he is seeing is that the

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<v Speaker 2>Houthis are a bit too a bit too sympathetic in

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<v Speaker 2>this situation with what's going on in the Middle East

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<v Speaker 2>and that unless they stop, quote, hell will rain down

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<v Speaker 2>upon you. That's what Trump is saying to the Houthi region.

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<v Speaker 2>The Hoothi Political Bureau is calling these attacks a war crime.

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<v Speaker 2>A war crime. This took place early this morning, Saturday morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Sunday there for them, but early Saturday morning, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll continue tracking those developments as the day goes on.

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<v Speaker 3>As well.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has invoked an eighteenth century law to declare invasion

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<v Speaker 2>by gangs and speed up deportations. And what that is

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<v Speaker 2>is the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only been.

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<v Speaker 2>Used twice before, and this time he is invoking it

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<v Speaker 2>to declare the target being trend Day Arragua, saying that

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<v Speaker 2>it is a hostile force acting at the behest of

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<v Speaker 2>Venezuela government. So we will continue tracking those developments again

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the night and throughout the weekend. Let's get into

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<v Speaker 2>some good news. If you prefer kid free spaces, you

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<v Speaker 2>want some quiet, you want a vacation without the kids

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<v Speaker 2>in tow, or you just want to go somewhere where

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<v Speaker 2>you're not necessarily seeing kids running around and in your space,

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<v Speaker 2>you are in luck. There's a new luxury resort in

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego County. Well, they're actually not new, but they've

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<v Speaker 2>instituted a new policy. And this resort is called the

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<v Speaker 2>Alila Maria Beach Resort. It's in Incinitas, which is just

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<v Speaker 2>north of San Diego, and as of February fourteenth, it

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<v Speaker 2>transitioned to an adult's only resort.

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<v Speaker 3>It says guests who.

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<v Speaker 2>Are eighteen and over are the only ones welcomed. However,

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<v Speaker 2>the decision to ban children essentially is being met with

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<v Speaker 2>some legal issue shoes. The lawyers are fighting. You have

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<v Speaker 2>one lawyer, Robert Pattillo, who's a civil rights attorney. He

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<v Speaker 2>says it's fine you can discriminate against children because essentially

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<v Speaker 2>they're not a protected class. And then you have another lawyer,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Dolan, owner of Dolan Law Firm in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 2>and LA, who says that any hotel that bans miners

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<v Speaker 2>in California violates Civil Code fifty one, which is also

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<v Speaker 2>known as the un ru Civil Rights Act, which provides

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<v Speaker 2>blanket legal protections against discrimination in California businesses. He says

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<v Speaker 2>hotels are a part of this business qualification in California specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>cannot discriminate against children without facing major legal repercussions. But

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<v Speaker 2>for now, if you want to visit a hotel that

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<v Speaker 2>is a luxury hotel, it's offering a train, quill, relaxing,

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<v Speaker 2>explorative and peaceful stay by the beach. Hurry up and

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<v Speaker 2>get down to that Alila Maria or Madria Beach resort

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<v Speaker 2>in Encinitas.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pricey.

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<v Speaker 2>You're paying for the premium of having silence and no children.

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<v Speaker 2>But until things change, they will be a premiere child

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<v Speaker 2>free resort. Another California city in the news is a

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<v Speaker 2>city that has topped the list once again amongst the

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<v Speaker 2>happiest cities in all of America. So this list came

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<v Speaker 2>out of wallet hub and they again analyzed all the

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<v Speaker 2>cities in America based on certain criteria, and those criteria

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<v Speaker 2>for the largest cities in America involved emotional and physical

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<v Speaker 2>well being, income and employment always a great talking point,

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<v Speaker 2>and community and environment.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's look at the.

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<v Speaker 2>Top ten happiest cities in the US according to wallet Hub,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll just talk about the ones in California specifically.

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<v Speaker 2>Raoul Can we have a drum roll for this as

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about the top five cities for California specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll tell you where La falls as well. Coming

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<v Speaker 2>in at number ten, we have Huntington Beach. Huntington Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>We love Huntington Beach. We have quite a few collaborations

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<v Speaker 2>with Huntington Beach. Have that air show out there, beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>air show. Huntington Beach comes in at number ten. Number nine,

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<v Speaker 2>drum roll. We have San Francisco. And a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people probably would go what San Francisco costa living alone,

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<v Speaker 2>probably would take it off of any list when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to emotional wellbeing, right, But San Francisco made the

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<v Speaker 2>list nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Number three, there's that drum roll.

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<v Speaker 2>Irvine, Irvine, California. A beloved city, beloved city, many people

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<v Speaker 2>love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoy Irvine.

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<v Speaker 2>I've visited Irvine many times for different events, and I

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<v Speaker 2>always want to stay. I find myself wanting to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>investigate what property might look like out there, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always quickly reminded that I can't afford that Irvine is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming in at number two, San Jose. As we're going

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<v Speaker 2>from out there in the OC kind of up north

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<v Speaker 2>now to San Jose. I don't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things to say about San Jose, but

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<v Speaker 2>I know driving through it. It's pretty, it's green, coming

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<v Speaker 2>in at number one on this list of top ten

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<v Speaker 2>happiest cities in the US, the California edition You'll Never

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<v Speaker 2>Guess It Fremont, California.

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<v Speaker 3>Freemont, California and why.

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<v Speaker 2>Low separation and divorce rate, high life satisfaction rate, low

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<v Speaker 2>depression rate, high average life expectancy, and a decent household income.

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<v Speaker 2>So they top the list amongst those cities in California

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<v Speaker 2>that are considered to be the happiest. Amongst this new

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<v Speaker 2>story by wallet hub or this new survey by wallet hub,

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<v Speaker 2>Where does LA fall? Number seventy seven? We are way

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<v Speaker 2>down the list if you think about big cities. There

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<v Speaker 2>are one hundred and eighty two of the largest cities

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<v Speaker 2>that were analyzed. LA falls just below that fifty percentile.

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<v Speaker 2>We are number seventy seven, which I guess is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a SA average. Many of us might grade

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<v Speaker 2>it differently, And one of the reasons we might grade

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles differently has to do with the safety of

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<v Speaker 2>our streets. Is it a safe place to drive? Are

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<v Speaker 2>there exorbitant amounts of collisions on our Los Angeles streets?

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<v Speaker 3>Should you be worried?

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<v Speaker 2>If you are driving, or if you're a pedestrian where

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<v Speaker 2>there are cars. Well, in our next segment, Deeper Dives,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get into just how unsafe Los Angeles is and

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<v Speaker 2>the components that make up that lack of safety. KFI

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