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Speaker 2: Who knows just what would I do? Joined me in
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Speaker 9: Fun for.
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Speaker 11: it in my head? Throw it on the ground. Who knows?
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Speaker 2: Joined the sway?
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Speaker 1: It's so insane.
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Speaker 3: Fuck buck. I got married, I got married to my
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Speaker 3: in the subway?
Speaker 2: He shot?
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Speaker 6: in my head, throw it on the ground.
Speaker 2: Who knows just what I Louise ready joined me in
Speaker 2: the ways love.
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Speaker 8: the human guinea pig stuff in Africa.
Speaker 1: It's so insane. So it's so inside.
Speaker 13: Bunker bunker, kunker, knocker up.
Speaker 3: I got married, I got married to a funko who
Speaker 3: we got wedded, come joined in the subway, he shocked over.
Speaker 2: I am married, I am married to my bunco, but
Speaker 2: we got joined. Go watch a sooner subway.
Speaker 10: Shot vitamins and biscuits, and minerals they come to even
Speaker 10: to My whole life is spent on a to m hm.
Speaker 2: M hmm.
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Speaker 2: we got joining in the subway.
Speaker 4: Shot over the road. And minerals they come to to
Speaker 4: and minerals they come from this year to.
Speaker 2: Fuck up both for don't. I got married. I got
Speaker 2: married to my thought huber who we got ready?
Speaker 3: Oh, we get joined in the subway.
Speaker 2: He shot.
Speaker 11: At the sight. What should I do with the first sight?
Speaker 11: Put it in my head, throwing knock around?
Speaker 2: Who knows? Just what would I do?
Speaker 5: We got.
Speaker 1: Joined some way shut over.
Speaker 8: The human guinea pig stuff in Africa.
Speaker 1: Is so insane.
Speaker 8: The human guinea pig stuff in Africa.
Speaker 1: Is so insane. It is so in It's so insane.
Speaker 2: Ma, fuck of fucker of fuck of fuck up a
Speaker 2: bucle I got married. I got married to a funco.
Speaker 14: I can give a hundred million reasons to build a barricade.
Speaker 14: Blame it on the changeing of the seasants, the thoughts
Speaker 14: that I convey.
Speaker 2: Does it make it alright?
Speaker 15: It doesn't make it alright? Sroll it over my soul,
Speaker 15: leave me here.
Speaker 6: We are in weird times, strange times. Today's topic will
Speaker 6: not primarily be theologically focused. I think we've covered pretty
Speaker 6: extensively the theological elements. I want to step a little
Speaker 6: bit away from theology because I mean, we kind of
Speaker 6: went on a bender, so to speak. We want on
Speaker 6: a tear. The last few weeks pretty much doing multi
Speaker 6: hour debates every day, so I gotta take a break
Speaker 6: from that. I can't do that all the time. So
Speaker 6: close to Creed, how dare you thumb down? Actually you
Speaker 6: noticed the first part. The first part was good, and
Speaker 6: then I was intentionally being silly with the chorus. Does
Speaker 6: anyone even know what I'm what I'm singing? Of course
Speaker 6: you don't, all of you uncultured rubes in the chat, particularly.
Speaker 16: Haggard.
Speaker 6: We always know the Haggards when they show up, when
Speaker 6: they show up, the quality of the tear. We're dropping
Speaker 6: down a few, a few tears, a few fustrata. But
Speaker 6: things are weird, things are crazy. So we're gonna be
Speaker 6: talking about the geopolitical stuff. We're gonna be talking about
Speaker 6: all the weird signs of things happening. Only the real
Speaker 6: ones know what I'm singing. Torri Amos, geez techno war.
Speaker 6: You should know me better than that.
Speaker 15: Jay was a conflict girl. Thought it was a goodution.
Speaker 15: J was a conflict girl.
Speaker 6: That's my Tori Amos impression. That's actually pretty good. I
Speaker 6: do her. I used to have that one album. I mean,
Speaker 6: I had all kinds of shit in high school and interesting.
Speaker 6: She was like the poster child of like jen X
Speaker 6: atheist girl. Remember torri Amos.
Speaker 15: Slowby was according Figger voterabus consolution.
Speaker 6: Come on, now that's a good Tori Amos impression. Now
Speaker 6: I'm going back to like two thousand and three. I'm
Speaker 6: singing like you know two thousand and two three era.
Speaker 17: Look around at all the plastic people live without a care.
Speaker 17: Try to sit with me around my table, but never
Speaker 17: bring a chair? Does it make it all right?
Speaker 15: So roll it over my soul?
Speaker 2: Leave me.
Speaker 6: The gay bar electric six ouch. I mean you might think,
Speaker 6: how is this connected? Everything's connected?
Speaker 18: Bro?
Speaker 6: It's all connected? Dude. Did you even see that one
Speaker 6: chick that I shared on Instagram? Let me prove it
Speaker 6: to you. People were like everyone is doing these serious streams.
Speaker 6: I mean, how many times we got to make a
Speaker 6: video of the same shit? You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Over and over and over? How is it all connected?
Speaker 6: Let me show you how everything is connected. First of all,
Speaker 6: let's look at we're gonna get into the geopolitics. I
Speaker 6: just I gotta be silly. I can't do all this
Speaker 6: stuff serious all the time. Drumm me crazy. We're gonna
Speaker 6: be looking at a lot of different things today, a
Speaker 6: lot of samples of cultural degradation, a lot of samples
Speaker 6: of silliness. We're gonna work through some of the classic books.
Speaker 6: This is a recap stream we got to where we are.
Speaker 6: What the overall plan of the elites is not from
Speaker 6: dumb conspiracy books, but from writings of the elite themselves.
Speaker 6: Before we do that, though, I want to show you
Speaker 6: what I'm talking about with how everything is going to
Speaker 6: make sense if you just understand everything's one bro.
Speaker 5: Like this.
Speaker 19: Yeah, then I took some kedemy and I entered the
Speaker 19: forest to puke, and the three people who care of me,
Speaker 19: they were literally hovered around my shop.
Speaker 6: Today, you guys are going to enter into the deep
Speaker 6: rabbit hole trip with me. You're gonna take some mental keademy.
Speaker 6: I don't advocate taking drugs. You're gonna take some mental
Speaker 6: initiate initiatory drugs from me, which will be my singing,
Speaker 6: the knowledge bombs that are about to get dropped, the
Speaker 6: impressions you're about to get inducted into my stream of consciousness.
Speaker 6: And this lovely lady here is gonna explain how this occurs.
Speaker 19: Folders watching me as I was getting sick, they were
Speaker 19: like the best friend that you need. They knew I
Speaker 19: was responsible to go in the bushes and go puked
Speaker 19: by myself and come back laid back, and I asked
Speaker 19: or projected. I literally entered the cores of the universe
Speaker 19: and I was floating. I could see the festival below me.
Speaker 19: I love colors, like colors I've never even seen before,
Speaker 19: fixed with each other. It was a sure best shit
Speaker 19: I've ever experienced in my time.
Speaker 6: I mean, this is like Fato level stuff, right Socrates
Speaker 6: and the Fato says, Bro, there's like colors we can't
Speaker 6: even know, dude, we ain't even seen these colors. This
Speaker 6: chick is talking like literal platonic dialogue stuff right here.
Speaker 19: Take everybody's got everybody is God, That is my takeaway.
Speaker 19: For we are not human. We are beings from the
Speaker 19: light source from one We got mixed in a bunch
Speaker 19: of fucking chaos and now we have.
Speaker 20: To deal with it.
Speaker 6: Ah, Like everybody's got, we all just got like mixed
Speaker 6: up in the freaking chaos. Bro, welcome to that chaos.
Speaker 6: Welcome to the chaos which is cringe core, which is
Speaker 6: me randomly singing oasis lyrics. Did nobody know what song
Speaker 6: I was singing? Man? Y'all got to Oh man, y'all
Speaker 6: gotta catch up.
Speaker 19: Bro.
Speaker 6: The only salvation for the West at this stage is
Speaker 6: my conspiracy theories and the reunion of wastes. Now Oasis
Speaker 6: is back together. This has to be some apocalyptic sign
Speaker 6: of the end. And first of all, have you noticed
Speaker 6: that the nineties keep popping back up? I mean, I
Speaker 6: know that we've been saying this for a few years now,
Speaker 6: but everything that I remember from the nineties that sticks
Speaker 6: out seems to suddenly be back now. Part of that is,
Speaker 6: of course, because corporations and pop stars they know to
Speaker 6: capitalize on the nostalgia. Ten twenty years later, as their
Speaker 6: youthful audience become mommies and daddies and whatever and they
Speaker 6: grow up, it's time to capitalize on the establishment, I mean,
Speaker 6: on the on the nostalgia. I should say you came
Speaker 6: for Richard Simmons. Well, look, dude, you're gonna get everything
Speaker 6: and more today. I actually should have put Liam and
Speaker 6: Noel on the thumbnail. And I forgot to welcome to
Speaker 6: your initiation today is you're gonna be You're gonna be
Speaker 6: seeing the world through my eyes. Let me show you
Speaker 6: the world in my eyes. Eater dirt. Does anyone know
Speaker 6: that one? Now, this was a fake video, but I
Speaker 6: thought it was funny because it's accurate. Did you guys
Speaker 6: see this is not a sile.
Speaker 21: Taylor Swift is not a Pio Taylor Swift, Taylor.
Speaker 22: Taylor Swift is not.
Speaker 1: Dangerous.
Speaker 23: Taylor Swift is not a SYO.
Speaker 24: Taylor Swift is not a Taylor Swift is not a Seli.
Speaker 3: Swift is not a scion.
Speaker 21: Taylor Swift is not a side Shift is not a Seli.
Speaker 3: Swift is not a scion.
Speaker 21: Taylor Swift is not a SiO.
Speaker 6: I like that. That was genius. And yes, I know
Speaker 6: it's take audio, but it's actually true though, because after
Speaker 6: all that hubbub and all the people beginning to question, like,
Speaker 6: wait a minute, this this whole drama with Travis Kelcey
Speaker 6: and Taylor Swift, this seems to be kind of manufactured.
Speaker 6: And then we saw the clip come out where NATO
Speaker 6: was expressing their interest in using Taylor Swift for and propaganda.
Speaker 6: So no, come on, I'm not going to rehearse all
Speaker 6: this Vatican too Pope stuff because I don't I mean,
Speaker 6: how many times do we have to talk about that?
Speaker 6: So rather than talking about the theology. And what's interesting
Speaker 6: is that I used to see in comments with this
Speaker 6: papal stuff a lot of coping and a lot of
Speaker 6: attempting to explain it, and it would even maybe be
Speaker 6: half and half at times like maybe two, three, four
Speaker 6: or five years ago. Now, the comments generally speaking, especially
Speaker 6: if you go over here to my video, my video
Speaker 6: which is Oasis Cast No Shadow Live at Never Worth
Speaker 6: part I'm just kidding over here at this this one,
Speaker 6: which I just did yesterday last night, the majority of
Speaker 6: the comments we're going to almost six hundred now, are
Speaker 6: in agreement that, okay, we can't defend this anymore. You've
Speaker 6: got a few pope's planners here and there, they're in
Speaker 6: the total minority. Most of the quote pope planners are
Speaker 6: actually just weird profiles that keep spamming John Paul the
Speaker 6: second quotes that don't prove or just prove anything. They're
Speaker 6: just kind of irrelevant. And then you've got the usual
Speaker 6: like five or ten Roman Catholic comments of embrace the
Speaker 6: pope scuismatic, Well, why would I embrace the pope when
Speaker 6: he's literally saying that as long as I pat to God. Now,
Speaker 6: if you doubt me, Again, these people, as usual have
Speaker 6: no reading comprehension, so they typically don't read the whole
Speaker 6: context with the whole quote. And it's not just these
Speaker 6: two documents. These are just two of the clearest. You
Speaker 6: can also look at the Romancalolic Catechism, which says the
Speaker 6: same thing. Summarizing the two. It doesn't say that they
Speaker 6: only think they have it. It says they with us
Speaker 6: adore the one merciful God, and they have the faith
Speaker 6: of Amraham. You have to read both comments from both
Speaker 6: dogmatic statements. But again they have suddenly have reading comprehension
Speaker 6: problems when it suits them. Welcome everybody. We are doing
Speaker 6: a little bit of a geopolitical catchup, and I wanted
Speaker 6: to talk today again more broadly, more generally about how
Speaker 6: we got to where we are a lot of the
Speaker 6: books I've been reading lately and what my thoughts are
Speaker 6: on those. Why is the nineties coming back? I mean,
Speaker 6: these are kind of the the thought processes that I've
Speaker 6: been having the last several months. And the reason I
Speaker 6: wanted to talk about end times to a degree is
Speaker 6: did you notice that a lot of the Roman Catholics,
Speaker 6: so Tim said, Hey, maybe it's the end times and
Speaker 6: since yesterday's papal statements, everybody's in a flurry. I mean,
Speaker 6: Roman Catholics are in a flurry. My dms are filling up,
Speaker 6: and I are going back and forth. We went back
Speaker 6: and forth all morning, I mean in a friendly civil way.
Speaker 6: So we're going back and forth on will Vatican one
Speaker 6: and the pope and you know kind of pope be
Speaker 6: a heretic and all that, and blah blah blah. So
Speaker 6: I think I covered those quotes from Vatican One in
Speaker 6: yesterday's video, and I think I responded to the typical
Speaker 6: objection as like, look, Vatican one says that the pope
Speaker 6: and the office of the Pope and it's power to
Speaker 6: be the source of unity and continuity, and it's the
Speaker 6: source of public visible unity. That's Vatican one's argument the papacy, right.
Speaker 6: It says in two places that that office will continue,
Speaker 6: quote until the end of time. It doesn't say it'll
Speaker 6: continue to the end of the world. And then there's
Speaker 6: this great apostasy. There's nothing in Vatican one about a
Speaker 6: great apostasy which allows for one hundred, two hundred years,
Speaker 6: fifty years, seventy years, whatever without a valid pope. And
Speaker 6: if you did admit that. Let's say we admitted or
Speaker 6: we went with a position of these apparitions that whether
Speaker 6: it's akita or whether it's a loss, let that there
Speaker 6: could be a mass apostasy in the Roman Church. If
Speaker 6: we admitted that, then we're admitting that in the last days,
Speaker 6: the Roman Church and the Roman See loses its public
Speaker 6: visible unity. But that's one of its key four mark elements.
Speaker 6: One Holy Catholic I abstat right. So in their position,
Speaker 6: those constituent elements, which you'll read about in Roman Catholic theology,
Speaker 6: could never be lost. And what's the essential foundation of
Speaker 6: the public visible unity the Roman Sea. So you see,
Speaker 6: it's actually impossible to say that the pope could defect,
Speaker 6: apostatize Rome, could lose the faith, et cetera, and be
Speaker 6: an adherent to Vatican one. It's and remember it's supposed
Speaker 6: to be simple. I mean, the argument of Vatican one
Speaker 6: is that it's supposed to be clear, simple and manifest
Speaker 6: that the Roman See is the sign of the one
Speaker 6: True Church.
Speaker 18: And so.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not worried or upset about Sam. You
Speaker 6: know Sam, can I know Sam's dealing with these issues,
Speaker 6: He's been dealing with them a long time, so I'm
Speaker 6: sensitive to that, and if he wants to have a discussion,
Speaker 6: I just messaged him as so we can have that
Speaker 6: discussion anytime. One thing that I think Romancalolics need to do,
Speaker 6: and I said this to Tim two and DMS, is
Speaker 6: I mean you guys should read through Vatican one. I
Speaker 6: said that to Tim, I said that to to Sam,
Speaker 6: and I'm not being rude or arrogant. It's just a
Speaker 6: lot of Roman Catholics don't read through those source documents.
Speaker 6: In Tim's case, he says, well, you know, I'm not
Speaker 6: primarily focused on dogmatic theology. I'm focused on philosophy. But
Speaker 6: now let me respond to this what about ism? Because
Speaker 6: a lot of the Roman Catholics of the point will say, well,
Speaker 6: you have a bad guy in Bartholomew. According to your
Speaker 6: own standards, you guys have elpeda fooros. You guys have
Speaker 6: these bad bishops. The argument is not we don't have
Speaker 6: bad bishops.
Speaker 18: You do.
Speaker 6: The argument is not our bishops don't sin, you have
Speaker 6: sinning bishops. No, no, no, it's way more precise than that.
Speaker 6: The argument is that in Catholic theology you cannot have
Speaker 6: a heretical pope or an apostate pope. That's the thing why,
Speaker 6: Because Vatican One's ecclesiology hinges the Roman Catholic system on
Speaker 6: the indefectibility and the inerrancy of the Roman See. The
Speaker 6: Roman See cannot teach error, whether publicly and dogmatically or
Speaker 6: in its normal, universal ordinary teaching, and even in its
Speaker 6: ordinary teaching, although it might error, you're still supposed to
Speaker 6: submit to that with docility. According to Lumgentium and the
Speaker 6: traditional Roman Catholic moral theology, it's your duty to submit
Speaker 6: with docility, even in the areas of Catholic theology that
Speaker 6: might be erroneous. It's not your place to go and
Speaker 6: correct the pope. So with those principles in mind, it
Speaker 6: has nothing to do with saying that the Roman bishop
Speaker 6: is impeccable. Nobody made the argument that Roman Catholicism is
Speaker 6: false because we think the pope is impeccable and Roman
Speaker 6: cality seemed to Pope is impeccable.
Speaker 25: No.
Speaker 6: No, it's about indefectibility and the Roman Sea not being
Speaker 6: liable to teaching error, which is emphasized over and over
Speaker 6: and over. No one judges the first sea, the Roman
Speaker 6: Sea is free from error, that actually goes back to
Speaker 6: things like Dictatus Pope. He goes back to Samakian forgeries
Speaker 6: and various papal forgeries that are still in canon law,
Speaker 6: that no one judges the first sea, that the first
Speaker 6: s he never errs. So we need to again set
Speaker 6: aside this oft repeated objection, which is a deflection. It's
Speaker 6: a deflection. Nobody is saying that the Orthodox Church has
Speaker 6: bishops that don't err or that don't sin. It's that
Speaker 6: Catholic theology teaches that you can't be.
Speaker 26: So.
Speaker 6: Again, so let's talk about these quotes that are being
Speaker 6: posted here. Orthodox ecclesiology is not Roman Catholic ecclesiology. So
Speaker 6: if Sam quotes patriarchs saying heretical things, everybody. Nestorius was
Speaker 6: a patriarch Constantinople. Many many patriarchs have been heretics. It
Speaker 6: doesn't undo the system of Orthodox ecclesiology and Orthodox theology.
Speaker 6: If you have heretical patriarchs, if the pope is a heretic,
Speaker 6: it undoes the Roman Catholic system and dogma. Do you
Speaker 6: see that? It's that simple. So I don't understand why
Speaker 6: people don't get this argument. I don't know if they're
Speaker 6: intentionally misunderstanding the argument and just doing what about isms,
Speaker 6: because it's not a what about ism, it's critiquing the
Speaker 6: Roman Catholic theology internally and then saying we don't have
Speaker 6: that problem in the Orthodox Church. I mean, how do
Speaker 6: people know? This is the same stuff Lofton has been
Speaker 6: saying for years.
Speaker 4: Yo, do yoga problem bishops too well, worried about your
Speaker 4: problem bishops.
Speaker 6: The argument is not we don't have problem bishops. How
Speaker 6: silly is this? The problem is that you have a
Speaker 6: system which mandates and solidifies certain principles about the Roman Sea,
Speaker 6: which could never be the case, in contrast to tim
Speaker 6: can never be the case that the Roman Sea goes
Speaker 6: without its living successors until the return of Christ, that
Speaker 6: it loses that visible unity, contrary to Sam or whoever
Speaker 6: else is arguing that. But you have sinful bishops who
Speaker 6: teacherrases too. Yes, but we don't hinge everything on one guy.
Speaker 6: So this is an interesting point too. That's raised about
Speaker 6: two quoke way and the question of double standards. So
Speaker 6: you have to be precise when something is too quoke
Speaker 6: way and when something is a double standard. So it
Speaker 6: really depends on what's being argued because This can be confusing.
Speaker 6: It can be confusing because two quoke way is what
Speaker 6: Let's say somebody says, I say, hey, Lofton, the Vatican
Speaker 6: too teaching about the Roman scene never defecting shows that
Speaker 6: Pope Francis has defected and that therefore Roman Catholicism is
Speaker 6: not true. And then if Lofton said, what about your
Speaker 6: bishops that teach us, that would be a two quotue
Speaker 6: way because the question was given to him and he
Speaker 6: responds with a question. But the problem, the reason that
Speaker 6: doesn't work is that I'm not bound by the logic
Speaker 6: of his system, right, I don't know the patriarch concept
Speaker 6: to nople is not a pope, even the pentarchy is
Speaker 6: not a pope. It's not a five headed pope. So
Speaker 6: you can't use your system to critique me, right, So
Speaker 6: that would be too two quotua. Well, what about your system.
Speaker 6: You're a hypocritcause you have so the other position. That's
Speaker 6: not like when we're talking with Muslims and we're doing
Speaker 6: an internal critique and we say, in our theology and
Speaker 6: our system, it's not inherently contradictory to say that God
Speaker 6: is one and three. There's an equal ultimacy there, and
Speaker 6: then we say to the Muslim, likewise, you have and
Speaker 6: you have to give an account for Allah's many attributes
Speaker 6: in his essence the same metaphysical problem. Do you see.
Speaker 6: That's a comparison between two systems and the internal standards
Speaker 6: amongst them. It's not a two quote wa because it
Speaker 6: depends on what the argument is. If the argument is
Speaker 6: that you have to justify your system on my system's grounds, right,
Speaker 6: or if the argument is are you using a double standard.
Speaker 6: For example, a Muslim will say something like liberal scholarship
Speaker 6: is my source and my proof for why the Bible's false.
Speaker 6: But then the same liberal scholarship which says that the
Speaker 6: Quran is false is discarded. You see that? Yeah, so
Speaker 6: an internal critique not a too quick way exactly. Thank
Speaker 6: you inquisitor. That's what I'm trying to delineate here. And
Speaker 6: I'm glad this came up because somebody brought this up
Speaker 6: the other day with the Muslims, and I was like,
Speaker 6: you know, these are different positions, here are different things. Well,
Speaker 6: I don't know what I mean. Just to make this
Speaker 6: really simple, I mean, I'm not watching Sam stream, so
Speaker 6: I don't know what he's arguing. But to make it
Speaker 6: really simple, like again, why would I be bound by
Speaker 6: the Roman Catholic idea of ecclesiology. Well, Sam has not
Speaker 6: read Vatican One yet. We just we were just talking
Speaker 6: about this. So that's why I told Sam he needs
Speaker 6: to read Vatican One. And I'm not being aggressive or
Speaker 6: trying to start a fight with Sam or anything. I
Speaker 6: love Sam. I'm just saying that. In the DMS, I said, hey,
Speaker 6: you need to if you're if you're interested in Catholicism,
Speaker 6: you need to read this document about fifteen pages. And
Speaker 6: I said the same thing to Tim Gordon too, by
Speaker 6: the way, So I'm not telling Sam or Tim anything
Speaker 6: different than I'm telling the other ones. Every Roman Catholic
Speaker 6: should be familiar with these source documents if they want
Speaker 6: to be Roman Catholic or defindent position, because a lot
Speaker 6: of what's floating around today after this Francis debacle is
Speaker 6: a lot of people making arguments again not understanding Vatican
Speaker 6: One and what it says. So maybe we need to
Speaker 6: rehearse Vatican One. Let's do that. By the way, if
Speaker 6: you want to support the stream, you can do so
Speaker 6: via super chats. So the first thing we're gonna note
Speaker 6: about papal teaching. And the reason I'm bringing this up
Speaker 6: is because I don't think Sam or Tim and I
Speaker 6: had actually had a discussion a DM on this about
Speaker 6: six months ago, so maybe Tim is aware of this now.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure what his position on this would be.
Speaker 6: But first mistake we always have to correct with Roman
Speaker 6: Catholics is that they think that they're only bound by
Speaker 6: the papacy's extraordinary teaching, and uh, this is patently false.
Speaker 6: I remember when I was in the ssp X going
Speaker 6: to the Latin Mass. I used to think this. I
Speaker 6: used to think, like every trade cat does at some
Speaker 6: at some phase, Oh, I'm only bound by what what
Speaker 6: the papist he says when it's extra ordinary. No, in fact,
Speaker 6: you're but you're bound by way more than that, and
Speaker 6: you're you're bound by the ordinary universal teaching as well.
Speaker 6: So let's see this. This is one site citation here
Speaker 6: in the Vatican one. Wherefore, by divine Catholic faith, all
Speaker 6: those things are to be believe, which are contained in
Speaker 6: the Word of God, inscription, tradition, and proposed by the
Speaker 6: Church as matters of UH to be believed by dialed
Speaker 6: as divinely revealed, whether by solemn judgment or orderdinary and
Speaker 6: universal magisterium. So you understand that the solemn judgment is
Speaker 6: the ex cathedral extraordinary magisterium. Ordinary universal magisterium is also
Speaker 6: dogma and must also be believed. So the necessary propositions
Speaker 6: to believe, be believed to be saved in Romancallay Church
Speaker 6: are much broader than a handful of extra ex cathedral statements.
Speaker 6: This is a classic mistake that Roman Catholics make. Let's
Speaker 6: give an example of this. Well, what's something that's ordinary magisterium? Saints?
Speaker 6: You cannot be a Roman Catholic and deny the sainthood
Speaker 6: of Alphonse, Segori, Augustine, whoever, because they end up being
Speaker 6: confirmed by Rome obviously. And let's think of the conclusion.
Speaker 6: What would be the case if we could doubt sainthood
Speaker 6: in the Roman Caelly Church. Well, I could go back
Speaker 6: therefore in doubt all the saints. So the logic of
Speaker 6: the system would be undone if you could doubt sainthood
Speaker 6: in the Roman Calloic system. And that's why eventually Roman
Speaker 6: cala the elogists tended to say, uh, yeah, sainthood is magistrate, ordinary,
Speaker 6: universal magistrate. Let's see, because I think the statement is
Speaker 6: said again. There's another statement about ordinary teaching. It might
Speaker 6: be in uh one of the encyclicals, but you get
Speaker 6: the point here, because it's still pointing out that you
Speaker 6: have to believe this. Now there's also Denzinger has two
Speaker 6: other statements. I might not be able to find these
Speaker 6: because I don't have mine. One of them is in
Speaker 6: the seventeen hundreds. If you look at Denzinger, let's see,
Speaker 6: it's the statement about you have to follow the Pope's
Speaker 6: dridical rulings as well. Where did I I've got that
Speaker 6: saved somewhere. I don't remember which number it is. It's
Speaker 6: like seventeen seventeen ninety two. Ooh, I can believe. I
Speaker 6: remember that. So here's Denzinger seventeen ninety two. But seventeen
Speaker 6: ninety two is a repeat of Vatican one. This is
Speaker 6: the statement that we just read in Vatican one. And
Speaker 6: there's three more in Denzinger that state that you have
Speaker 6: to believe also beyond that the decisions of the Roman
Speaker 6: College as well. So it is in the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 6: I remember this much. It's getting into this. It's phrased
Speaker 6: something like there's also a condemned proposition. It's a condemned
Speaker 6: proposition that you only have to believe what is in
Speaker 6: the extraordinary teaching. I'm gonna find this because this is
Speaker 6: really important. I know where I put it. Let's see,
Speaker 6: is Vatican one infallible or about and two infallible? And
Speaker 6: I listed these underneath it. That's where it is I
Speaker 6: can believe remembered seventeen ninety two. Okay, we come down here.
Speaker 6: This is this isn't This doesn't have the Denzinger statements,
Speaker 6: but it does have so Pius the twelfth and ce
Speaker 6: De la Gillis says that even if you think the
Speaker 6: pope is wrong, you're bound by his statements. Pius the
Speaker 6: eleventh and his encyclical Casti Kanubii. This condemns the proposition
Speaker 6: that you're only bound by what you think is quote magisterium.
Speaker 6: Let's pull that up. These are just real reaffirmations of
Speaker 6: the point that I was making. So it's Cassidy Kanubii
Speaker 6: one four. I think it was. Therefore, let the faith
Speaker 6: will be on guard against the overrated independence of private
Speaker 6: judgment and the false autonomy human reason is quite foreign
Speaker 6: to the bearing of the name of Christians. Trust in
Speaker 6: his own mental powers to imagine that the Church, sent
Speaker 6: by God to guide and teach all nations, is not
Speaker 6: conversing with president affairs and circumstances, or that they must
Speaker 6: obey only in the matters which has been decreed. Do
Speaker 6: you see this by solemn definition, as though her decisions
Speaker 6: might be presumed to be false or insufficient. Quite to
Speaker 6: the contrary, You are bound by all the teachings on
Speaker 6: faith and morals of the Roman Pontiff, not the ones
Speaker 6: that are only so called solemn dogma, right there Cassi
Speaker 6: Conubii one O four. And let me find the one
Speaker 6: about Roman college you are bound by. If I could
Speaker 6: think of of the wording of the way it's worded,
Speaker 6: I could remember it. Let me look real quick at
Speaker 6: my book marks, because it might be there. I think
Speaker 6: I say it in book marks a long time ago,
Speaker 6: something like Roman Catholics are bound by more than extraordinary magisterium.
Speaker 6: What what I'm looking for is the two crucial Denzinger quotes,
Speaker 6: because there's two more. One of them is a condemned proposition,
Speaker 6: probably from Cassidy Canubia, but one of them is I think,
Speaker 6: from the Syllabus of Errors, and one of them is
Speaker 6: from there was a question of whether you have to
Speaker 6: accept the pope's like juridical decisions. So like at the
Speaker 6: Pope says so and so is excommunicated, can you rebel
Speaker 6: against that? And the answer is no, you're also bound
Speaker 6: by his juridical decisions. Let's see if I can find.
Speaker 16: That all we need is our lives in a suitcase.
Speaker 27: They be long to a friend of a friend, and
Speaker 27: as we dream to ourselves, we amuse ourselves underneath the sky.
Speaker 15: This guy again.
Speaker 6: There? Okay, well I think I found it. Yes, I
Speaker 6: found it awesome. Okay, nice, sweet, I can't believe I
Speaker 6: found that, Okay. Sixteen eighty three. Well, in truth we
Speaker 6: lot these men would do pray that they confess the
Speaker 6: truth and their obligation arises from the Catholic faith. Blah
Speaker 6: blah blah blah blah. That they do not wish to
Speaker 6: confine the obligation by which Catholic teachers, teachers, and writers
Speaker 6: are absolutely bound only to the decrees of infallible judgment
Speaker 6: see seventeen twenty two. But you are also bound by
Speaker 6: all of the other things. So sixteen eighty three is
Speaker 6: referencing seventeen twenty two. The obligation by which Catholic teachers
Speaker 6: and writers are absolutely bound is restricted only to the
Speaker 6: matters that are infallible and the dogmas. This is a
Speaker 6: condemned proposition seventeen twenty two. These are the condemned propositions
Speaker 6: of Pious the ninth in the Syllabus of Errors. So
Speaker 6: it is a condemned proposition that a Roman Catholic is
Speaker 6: only bound by the infallible teachings of the Magisterium, and
Speaker 6: not the universal ordinary teachings, or not the ordinary teaching
Speaker 6: all right next one, sixteen ninety eight. Nor do they
Speaker 6: blush to profess and publicly openly the axiom and the
Speaker 6: principle of heretics from which various perverse opinions and errors arise.
Speaker 6: For they repeatedly said that the ecclesiastical power is not,
Speaker 6: by divine right distinct from the civil power, and the
Speaker 6: distinction and independence of the civil power cannot be preserved
Speaker 6: without the essential rights of the civil power being invaded
Speaker 6: and unasserted by the Church. That's a quote from the liberals.
Speaker 6: We cannot pass over in silence the boldness of those
Speaker 6: who do not endure sound doctrine and contend without sin,
Speaker 6: that with no loss of Catholic profess Yes, one can
Speaker 6: withhold assent the from obedience to the judgments and decrees
Speaker 6: of the Apostolic Sea. This is condemned. So the idea
Speaker 6: that you can be a good faithful Catholic and withhold
Speaker 6: your assent to the judgments and the disciplines the disciplinary
Speaker 6: judgments of the Roman Sea is a condemned proposition. So
Speaker 6: you are condemned as a heretic if you believe that
Speaker 6: in the Roman Caloic Church. And so that's the other
Speaker 6: ones in Denzinger that I mentioned. Now, I know Denzinger,
Speaker 6: like Sam Shimoun, knows the Koran and the Haydiths. So
Speaker 6: anybody who wants to discuss these topics, I'm more than
Speaker 6: willing to have any kind of dogmatic Roman Catholic discussion. Again,
Speaker 6: I know these texts like he knows the Kuran and
Speaker 6: the Hadiths, so I'm more than willing to do any
Speaker 6: kind of deep dive anybody wants on these issues. But
Speaker 6: as you can see, I gave you four Densinger references
Speaker 6: and Casti KANUBII, so if you want the numbers. Densinger
Speaker 6: sixteen eighty three, Dinsinger sixteen ninety eight Dinzinger seventeen twenty two.
Speaker 6: Dinzinger seventeen ninety two. Castiy Kanubii one O four Vatican one,
Speaker 6: Chapter three, Section eight, clear as day. That's why we
Speaker 6: always say to the Roman the Tradcats, you can't reject
Speaker 6: Vatican two. It doesn't matter if it's called a pastoral council.
Speaker 6: It's confirmed by the Apostolic Sea, it deals with faith
Speaker 6: and morals, and it's for the entire Catholic Church. There
Speaker 6: you go. You have to believe it. You can't reject
Speaker 6: Vatican two if you're a Catholic. Anyway, how many times
Speaker 6: have we talked about this, like a million? I mean
Speaker 6: I've been literally been sitting here covering Denzinger and trad
Speaker 6: at copes and doctrines for how many years? And you
Speaker 6: notice every time they come to debate, they get demolished
Speaker 6: and they run off and cry and they won't debate,
Speaker 6: or they just boot me from their streams. So that's
Speaker 6: why I don't go in their streams. Okay, but I
Speaker 6: wasn't really planning on now. By the way, Yeah, everybody
Speaker 6: should be aware of mortalium animus, because that's one of
Speaker 6: the other really crucial documents in this and people should
Speaker 6: read this if they haven't, because it's really the clearest condemnation.
Speaker 6: That's the latest condemnation of this stuff from the Vatican.
Speaker 6: So the last time that the Vatican made a really
Speaker 6: explicit rejection of multi faith interfaith gatherings that I'm aware
Speaker 6: of was the nineteen twenty eight I guess it's an
Speaker 6: encyclical of pious the ninth I means give me eleventh
Speaker 6: nineteen twenty eight Pis eleven, the Mortalium Animos, and the
Speaker 6: whole document it's.
Speaker 2: Not that long.
Speaker 6: You should read it. It's really a very clear condemnation
Speaker 6: that the reason that Catholics can't engage. Look at this
Speaker 6: so veneral, brethren, it is clear why the apposoliccy has
Speaker 6: never allowed its subjects to take part in the assemblies
Speaker 6: of non Catholics, For the union of Christians can only
Speaker 6: happen in the Roman Church. The one true Church is
Speaker 6: visible to all. It is the mystical spouse of Christ
Speaker 6: et cetera, and so it could never be in communion
Speaker 6: or allow its members to engage in interfaith gatherings. This
Speaker 6: whole document, clear as day, is a condemnation of interfaith gatherings,
Speaker 6: and it's very famous, it's very well known. You know
Speaker 6: what Roman Catholics say, Oh well, it wasn't dogma. Oh
Speaker 6: but it doesn't have to be dogma for you to
Speaker 6: follow it. It only has to be normative teaching. Certainly,
Speaker 6: the popes and cyclicals are ordinary universal normative teaching. In
Speaker 6: this case, the pope is speaking on faith and morals.
Speaker 6: He is speaking as the successor to Peter, to the
Speaker 6: entire church. Who's it written to the patriarchs, the primates,
Speaker 6: the arch bishops, the bishops in communion with the whole
Speaker 6: with the absociate the whole world on religious unity. The
Speaker 6: whole document is a condemnation, and it says that if
Speaker 6: you engage in inter faith gatherings, you are an apostate.
Speaker 6: You have left the Christian faith. You are no longer
Speaker 6: remember the mystical body, because you have surrendered what is
Speaker 6: a fundamental doctrine of Christianity, which is that Christ is
Speaker 6: the only way to be saved. So anybody who wants
Speaker 6: to come debate these topics again, I know these documents,
Speaker 6: like Sam knows the Quran and knows how des I mean,
Speaker 6: I'll go all day long with Denzinger. I mean, you
Speaker 6: have seen my Denzinger, right, I've read Denzinger. I'm not
Speaker 6: trying to be rude. I don't think Tim or Sam
Speaker 6: even have Denzinger, So they're not this is not a
Speaker 6: position that they're in that they're ready to debate. That
Speaker 6: would be like me saying I'm gonna go debate Sam
Speaker 6: Shamun on the on the Quran, and I'm gonna win.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I know these I was an insane
Speaker 6: trad cat for ten years. I lived this, I breathed this.
Speaker 6: I dare say nobody knows the trad cat ins and
Speaker 6: outs in the internet sphere better than me. I mean,
Speaker 6: there might be some nerd who spent more time in
Speaker 6: these stupid documents, but when it comes to executing the arguments,
Speaker 6: I dare say that there's not a trad cat out
Speaker 6: there that could really hold up to this, because I mean,
Speaker 6: if you took if you take this stuff seriously, you're
Speaker 6: going to you know, immerse yourself in all these doctrines
Speaker 6: and documents. How long was I sspx orceta so I
Speaker 6: got I started reading Romancolic stuff in two thousand and one.
Speaker 6: I came into the Roman Church two thousand and three.
Speaker 6: I was pretty quickly at trad I didn't really know
Speaker 6: what was right about who was and wasn't pope in
Speaker 6: two thousand and three. I read the first set of
Speaker 6: a conscious book in two thousand and four or five,
Speaker 6: but I wasn't convinced of it. I just thought, well,
Speaker 6: there's all these different types of positions that you could
Speaker 6: have on the Vatican. It took me a couple more
Speaker 6: years before I started leaning more and more to think
Speaker 6: that John Paul the scond was not a valid pope.
Speaker 6: But I mean I was still just if you're in
Speaker 6: the SSPC, you just kind of you just kind of
Speaker 6: set that issue aside because you think, well, there's not
Speaker 6: much I can do about it. I'm going to the
Speaker 6: Latin Mass. It's even the Vatican admits that, you know,
Speaker 6: the Latin Mass is like valid sacraments. So if you're
Speaker 6: in the SSPX side position and you just kind of
Speaker 6: don't spend a whole lot of time worrying about it
Speaker 6: and you just go to the Mass, right, but it
Speaker 6: kind of wears at you and you start thinking, well,
Speaker 6: but how's this SSPX position actually tenable? And I didn't
Speaker 6: really think about the SSPX position being untenable until I
Speaker 6: was confronted with the question of universal ordinary magisteriums. In
Speaker 6: other words, this Vatican One teaching that you have, you're
Speaker 6: not just bound by the dogmas. I mean that undoes
Speaker 6: this right here sixteen ninety eight that an that ends
Speaker 6: the SSPX position. The whole SSPX position is premised on
Speaker 6: rejecting John Paul the Second's excommunication of le Fever. But
Speaker 6: clearly sixteen ninety eight says you don't have the right
Speaker 6: to reject a papal excommunication. You must follow the pope
Speaker 6: and the Roman see the Roman College in their juridical decisions.
Speaker 6: And so if that's the case, bye, by the SSPX,
Speaker 6: you guys are the definition you are in the Roman system,
Speaker 6: the definition of schismatic. So if the SSPX goes, really
Speaker 6: the only logical position is to say, out of a
Speaker 6: contestm right like. And for a long time I still
Speaker 6: went to the SSPX because they had valid sacraments, even
Speaker 6: though in my personal opinion was that by that time
Speaker 6: Benedict wasn't a valid pope. But there's nothing I could
Speaker 6: do about that. So it's more important to get valid sacraments.
Speaker 6: So I went to the Latin mass from about two
Speaker 6: thousand and four until two thousand and eight ish. Anyway,
Speaker 6: I wasn't really planning on And by the way, why
Speaker 6: does everybody want to like, why do you want to
Speaker 6: defend all this stuff? Like is it not time to
Speaker 6: give this stuff up? The other thing people don't realize too,
Speaker 6: is h And I noticed this in the Abara debate.
Speaker 6: Remember going back to the Abar debate. Remember when I
Speaker 6: was debating Abara and I said, Eric, I'm here, I
Speaker 6: want to debate pre Vatican two and post Vatican two teaching.
Speaker 6: And Eric said, Jillo wanted to debate the papacy stacking
Speaker 6: up historical case examples. But what I was trying to
Speaker 6: do was argue the system, the system right. And Eric
Speaker 6: wanted to argue in an evidential way that if you
Speaker 6: could pile up enough so called evidences for the Vatican
Speaker 6: one mindset of the papacy, then isn't it likely that
Speaker 6: maybe Vatican one papacy is possible? And my argument was, well,
Speaker 6: if Vatican pre Vatican too and post Vatican two theology contradicts,
Speaker 6: that's all I need to invalidate the whole system. I
Speaker 6: only need one dogmatic contradiction to invalidate that system, because
Speaker 6: that system, said the Romans. He cannot teach error, there
Speaker 6: cannot be a contradiction in dogma. So their own system
Speaker 6: has set themselves up for this fall. You know, don't
Speaker 6: you don't understand this, and don't you think that. I mean,
Speaker 6: I'm not making this. This doesn't prove anything because it
Speaker 6: could be wrong, right, I could be wrong. I could
Speaker 6: have missed some piece of data or something. But I've
Speaker 6: already been through this, Like I did this whole thing
Speaker 6: in the two thousands, all the what everybody's going through
Speaker 6: right now. I already did this stuff, like I lived
Speaker 6: in Denzinger and the Tsuma and in the you know,
Speaker 6: Latin Church Fathers and the Catechism of Trent, and I
Speaker 6: lived and breath this. I actually bought the tanor alberta
Speaker 6: Goo official Jesuit version to volume, multi hundred dollars set
Speaker 6: of the Roman Catholic commitical Councils. I bought all of
Speaker 6: the papal and cyclicals that I had access to. There
Speaker 6: was one papal in cyclical set that was like five
Speaker 6: hundred dollars, like Afford. It was all the papal encyclicals
Speaker 6: from like the seventeen hundreds up till today. Or something.
Speaker 6: But I read all five or six hundred pages of
Speaker 6: Lee of the Thirteen's and cyclicals. I read all of
Speaker 6: the Masonic encyclicals. I've read all of the encyclicals in
Speaker 6: Popes against the Modern Errors. I've read many of the
Speaker 6: encyclicals of Piss of twelfth and Piss the eleventh. I've
Speaker 6: read majority of Piss a tenths works that are in English,
Speaker 6: and the cyclicals. I read all Denzinger multiple times. So like,
Speaker 6: I know this realm now again, doesn't mean I have
Speaker 6: every I could be wrong about some minutia of Catholic doctrine.
Speaker 6: That's true, because I don't I'm not in that world anymore.
Speaker 6: I don't care about it anymore except for the purpose
Speaker 6: of apologetics and so forth. So there could be some like, oh,
Speaker 6: you didn't know that canon law actually says this on
Speaker 6: page paragraph for four hundred and thirty two whatever, So yeah,
Speaker 6: maybe there's something minutia, but like, the main issue is here,
Speaker 6: I'm not wrong about this, Like I know this very well.
Speaker 6: So in the case that people like Sam or Tim,
Speaker 6: you know, look, it's always an open door to come chat.
Speaker 6: You can always come talk about this stuff. It does
Speaker 6: have to be a debate. People want to have a conversation.
Speaker 6: But this is what I mean this. I know this
Speaker 6: this feeling too, because look.
Speaker 2: When I was.
Speaker 6: In two thousand and three, when I went into Rome,
Speaker 6: I was immediately confronted with problems when at that time
Speaker 6: this was not too long after, because I think John
Speaker 6: Paul had not too long before that kissed the Kuran,
Speaker 6: and that was something would bring up and I would
Speaker 6: be like, well, that's pretty rough. I don't know, And
Speaker 6: I remember thinking for a long time, well that's just
Speaker 6: a you know, personal error that he shouldn't have done
Speaker 6: that as a mistake you made. But the problem is
Speaker 6: that the mistakes that are being made are actually on
Speaker 6: the basis of things in Vatican two, right, And there's
Speaker 6: no way that a person who is a Christian and
Speaker 6: believes the teaching and understands what Islam says could say
Speaker 6: that the plan of salvation includes those who acknowledge the Creator,
Speaker 6: the first of whom is the Muslims who profess to
Speaker 6: hold the faith of Abraham and along with us, adore
Speaker 6: the One merciful God. In Hinduism, men contemplate the divine
Speaker 6: mystery and seek a flight to God with love and trust.
Speaker 6: I'm paraphrasing. So if it had not set in Hinduism
Speaker 6: the demonic system, you might could salvage that quote if
Speaker 6: it had not said. And by the way, it's not
Speaker 6: just it says. It says that Muslims with us. With Catholics,
Speaker 6: they say, I'm not a Catholic.
Speaker 28: You know what I mean?
Speaker 18: With us?
Speaker 6: The Catholics adore the One, the One True God. Adoration
Speaker 6: is worship in Catholic theology. So it's not just a
Speaker 6: mental recognition that there's a single deity. Muslims worship the
Speaker 6: One True God with Catholics. So if these are the
Speaker 6: statements in Vatican two, and if for decades the popes
Speaker 6: have been having public prayer meetings with Muslims, if Francis
Speaker 6: and Benedict have been praying in Moss towards Mecca, their
Speaker 6: actions tell you what they think. And I don't have
Speaker 6: a problem saying that whatever patriarch went to the Assisi gatherings,
Speaker 6: he's just as much a heretic. Right, So what about
Speaker 6: the interfaith center in Russia? So Putin kissing the Quran
Speaker 6: is not the equivalent of the pope kissing the Quran.
Speaker 6: And I totally agree that this is just as bad
Speaker 6: as what Francis does. But again, in the Orthodox system,
Speaker 6: it's a decentralized church, right, so if a patriarch apostatizes,
Speaker 6: or if a patriarch commits error heresy, it doesn't undo
Speaker 6: the system. Yeah, but again you can put up quotes
Speaker 6: the Orthodox we have been criticizing and refuting acumenism for
Speaker 6: how long? So all this point, all this shows is
Speaker 6: that the Orthodox Church has ecumenism as a danger. The
Speaker 6: Romancaloity Church has ecumenism, the Protestants have ecumenism. But what's
Speaker 6: at root the problem here is which ecclesiology is invalidated
Speaker 6: by this? So they're trying to take what aboutisms about
Speaker 6: the fact that you have problems in your church of ecumenism,
Speaker 6: and so do we. Yeah, but the difference is that
Speaker 6: the Orthodox we could lose all the patriarchs. Like let's
Speaker 6: say all the patriarchs went to some city for meeting,
Speaker 6: and let's say that a comment destroyed all five patriarchs,
Speaker 6: all six whatever, however, I mean, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 6: so the five patriarchs minus Rome. Let's say Rome was
Speaker 6: Let's say all of the patriarchs get get destroyed by
Speaker 6: a comment oh, I guess the Orthodox Church doesn't exist
Speaker 6: anymore because we don't have the pentarchy. The pentarchy is
Speaker 6: a system that's accepted gradually over time, by the fifth
Speaker 6: sixth seventh century. If it's something that is accepted by
Speaker 6: the fifth sixth seventh century, the pentarchy five, then obvious
Speaker 6: is not essential to the church. If it didn't exist
Speaker 6: in centuries one, two, and three. Christians were being saved
Speaker 6: in the first, second, third century without the pentarchy, weren't they.
Speaker 6: So pentarchy is something that's a canonical development. It's not
Speaker 6: essential to the church. It can be normative, but conceivably
Speaker 6: every patriarch it could apostatize. I'm not saying every patriot
Speaker 6: has apostatized, but canon law and all of this. It
Speaker 6: operates different in the Orthodox Church than it does in
Speaker 6: the Latin Church. In the Latin Church, there's certain sins
Speaker 6: that ipso facto excommunicate you. For example, if you procure
Speaker 6: an abration in Roman Catholic canon law, to procure an
Speaker 6: abrastion automatically excommunicates you from the Roman Catholic Church.
Speaker 2: Did you know that?
Speaker 6: Did you know that's Catholic canon law? Because as Mestichi
Speaker 6: Corporus and Leo the thirteenth Southeast Cognetium say to commit
Speaker 6: the sins of heresy and apostasy. In Roman Catholic theology,
Speaker 6: ipso facto lates sententia removing from the body. That means
Speaker 6: that no sonodal, jurisdictional, juridical statement is required. That's what
Speaker 6: laatees sententia and ipso facto mean. Ipso facto, by the
Speaker 6: very fact, by the very fact of worshiping in the
Speaker 6: mosque towards Mecca, you, ipso facto, have rejected the Christian faith.
Speaker 6: And in Catholic theology, how can the pope be the
Speaker 6: head of that which he is not a member? How
Speaker 6: can the bishops be heads of that of which they
Speaker 6: are not members? And you say, well, this is an
Speaker 6: argument set as mate. So either the argument is true
Speaker 6: or it's false. The source of the argument is irrelevant.
Speaker 6: That's a genetic fallacy. Well, I don't like suns, so
Speaker 6: you're using their arguments. So I mean you guys use
Speaker 6: Aristotles first cause arguments Aristol is a pagan? So should
Speaker 6: I throw out all of Aristotle because he's a pagan?
Speaker 6: So you see, you don't utilize the same standard as
Speaker 6: Catholics when you complain about oh you use tag? Is
Speaker 6: Greg Bunsen was a Cotus used tag. So the argument
Speaker 6: stands on its own regardless of whether Greg Bonson said
Speaker 6: or not. So likewise, either it is an ipso facto
Speaker 6: removal or it's not. Let's see if that's I'm pretty
Speaker 6: sure that's still in the new code of canlaw. Here's
Speaker 6: the example of abration.
Speaker 2: Oh what do you know?
Speaker 6: Canon thirteen sixty four. An apostate, a heretic, or a
Speaker 6: schismatic incurs lattes intense excommunication without prejudice to the provision.
Speaker 6: He or she may be punished with the penalties. Do
Speaker 6: you know what this means? Latte sentence without a canonical
Speaker 6: or excuse me, without a without an official pronouncement. A
Speaker 6: person who uses physical force against the pope incurs an
Speaker 6: immediate excommunication by that act. A person who attempts to
Speaker 6: confers sacred orders upon a woman incurs latte sentence excommunication.
Speaker 6: So you'll notice there's many actions and sins. Now why
Speaker 6: am I showing this because in Roman Catholic canon law,
Speaker 6: this is their can in law. Not all sins are equal,
Speaker 6: not all sins incur the same penalty. If you have
Speaker 6: a dirty thought about a woman, you're going to confess that.
Speaker 6: But it does not LATAs sententia automatically excommunicate you from
Speaker 6: the visible Church of Christ. In Roman Cavol Canon law,
Speaker 6: all the sins that you're seeing listed here in actions
Speaker 6: are examples where it does do that. So this is
Speaker 6: talking about various invalid ordinations. If a person tresn't ordain
Speaker 6: somebody out of accord with what's accepted, it's an automatic
Speaker 6: ex communication. If a cleric attempts to get married, he
Speaker 6: incurs an automatic excommunication. Anyone look at this Canon thirteen
Speaker 6: ninety seven. To any person who procures an abraustion is
Speaker 6: latae sententia automatically excommunicated? Again, do you understand that latte
Speaker 6: sententiae ipso facto means that you don't have to have
Speaker 6: the church officially say I pronounced Bob Smith excommunicated. The
Speaker 6: very word means by the action itself. That's why it
Speaker 6: says any apostate or heretic or schismatic is automatically excommunicated
Speaker 6: from the calolgy church.
Speaker 18: Clear as day.
Speaker 6: You're not a canon lawyer, Okay, tell me where I'm wrong. No,
Speaker 6: I'm not. I don't claim to be a canon lawyer. Hey, Jamy,
Speaker 6: could you make me a double shot with some uh manuka, honey. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it does not require any formal decree by the Roman
Speaker 6: Catholic bishops or the pope or anything. It's ipso facto
Speaker 6: lat centence. See that. And did you notice that not
Speaker 6: all sins do this, only certain serious grave sins. And
Speaker 6: some of the ones I didn't even know. I didn't
Speaker 6: know that if you try to if you try to
Speaker 6: punch Pope Frank, you get automatically communicated. That one was
Speaker 6: a funny one. I didn't nextally know that abration. That
Speaker 6: one I knew was lates inentence. I did not know
Speaker 6: that if you try to ordain a woman, you're automatically communicated.
Speaker 6: Didn't know that one. So there you go. So here's
Speaker 6: the present day. This is the nineteen eighty three code
Speaker 6: of kendlaw. I'm pretty sure. So they can't say, well,
Speaker 6: this is the nineteen seventeen code. Is not the nineteen
Speaker 6: thirty dude, this is not the nineteen eighty three code. No,
Speaker 6: this is the nineteen eighty three code. So it continues.
Speaker 6: I'm going to make sure it's the nineteen oh three code. Yes,
Speaker 6: here it is presentation of the new code Kennala in
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty three. So all the possible copes and explanations
Speaker 6: and talking around all this nonsense, they're just counting on
Speaker 6: you guys, not knowing that this is what they teach.
Speaker 6: And is this not obvious that not all the sins
Speaker 6: are the same? I mean, do they not know this?
Speaker 6: Do they think that? So here is the link to
Speaker 6: their canon law and you can see right there right
Speaker 6: away thirteen sixty four. Right away, if you commit the
Speaker 6: sins of heresy, skiz them an apostasy, you're automatically out
Speaker 6: of the Roman Church. That means the decades of popes
Speaker 6: committing all these interfaith gatherings and actions which Mortalian animos
Speaker 6: said is a surrendering of the faith. Are Italian minimos
Speaker 6: are themselves tic, schismatics and apostates? And why is that?
Speaker 6: Because of the decrees of Vatican two. By teaching that
Speaker 6: all the religions are paths to God, you can be
Speaker 6: saved in Hinduism, Muslims out of the faith of Abraham.
Speaker 6: Muslims adore the same God as us. Adoration is worship,
Speaker 6: not just a mental recognition, it's actually worship, and so
Speaker 6: Francis is not doing anything new when he says what
Speaker 6: we say. Now again, I absolutely agree. I absolutely agree
Speaker 6: with Sam and anyone else who critiques the Ecumenists and
Speaker 6: the Orthodox Church. I guess what, I've been doing podcasts
Speaker 6: for years talking about the Ecumenism and the Orthodox Church
Speaker 6: and calling it out and opposing it and calling out
Speaker 6: Bartholomew as a bad man. Why should I? I mean,
Speaker 6: I have talked to Sam in private about this, but
Speaker 6: people are talking publicly. I'm gonna reply publicly, and I'm
Speaker 6: not mad at Sam again. Man Like Sam's experience with
Speaker 6: Islam going back to the late nineties is my experience
Speaker 6: with Catholicism going back to the late nineties and the
Speaker 6: year two thousand. I first started reading Catholic stuff in
Speaker 6: two thousand. So this is not this is my world.
Speaker 6: Why do you think the track can take me so much?
Speaker 6: Because I go, I know the documents, their documents better
Speaker 6: than them. No, you don't know a Quitas better than
Speaker 6: I don't care about Aquinas. I'm talking about their dogmas.
Speaker 6: The documents and the dogmas. Roman Catholicism is not Aquinas.
Speaker 6: Roman Catholicism is the dogmas. That's what you're supposed to follow.
Speaker 6: That's what the religion is.
Speaker 1: You see.
Speaker 6: So here we are. We got all this sidetracked and
Speaker 6: all this stuff when actually it wasn't even here to
Speaker 6: talk about the theology again today? How many times do
Speaker 6: we have to talk I've literally done this stream how
Speaker 6: many times? This is probably the thirtieth time I've done
Speaker 6: this specifically these topics. Welcome everybody. Thank you, appreciate those
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Speaker 6: today is a festal message the Cross of Christ. Users
Speaker 6: in the joy the whole universe. Do not let any
Speaker 6: evil sygh ops rob you of that joy exactly. Now,
Speaker 6: let's get away from all this theology stuff and stop
Speaker 6: trying to get me to argue with Sam in the chat.
Speaker 6: Sam's gonna have to work through these issues at his pace.
Speaker 6: There's always an open door to talk about this stuff.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to do any interactions with William Aubricks.
Speaker 6: I actually think he's worse than Loften. I would interact
Speaker 6: with Loughton before I'd interact with all So, uh, you
Speaker 6: know Sam can deal with this when Sam is ready
Speaker 6: to deal with it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: You know, look, if people call names, don't worry about it.
Speaker 6: Let's let's be big. Put on their big boy pants,
Speaker 6: big boy pants. Put your big boy pants on, and
Speaker 6: don't worry about it. Who cares if he calls people names.
Speaker 6: Now things are getting crazy because you know Putin is
Speaker 6: warning that things could escalate, escalate.
Speaker 18: Uh, then this way is really Internet is nothing.
Speaker 6: Put you on.
Speaker 18: Your tea.
Speaker 22: The conflict condition you gusual conflict new speaking glass.
Speaker 6: So there's the recent statement and Lord Baltimore commented put
Speaker 6: and warns there will be no winners in this war.
Speaker 6: Insane neocons like Bolden and Obama think that they can
Speaker 6: defeat Russia like they tried with non nuclear powers in
Speaker 6: the Middle East. Please keep this in mind that the
Speaker 6: US would not defeat could not defeat North Vietnam in
Speaker 6: a twelve year war. And I think it would be
Speaker 6: a huge mistake to keep escalating this because it's really
Speaker 6: not serving the American population at all. It's serving a
Speaker 6: political elite class in Washington, who has a certain business
Speaker 6: ventures and geopolitical ventures, money laundering ventures through the Ukraine. Neocons,
Speaker 6: other foreign governments and foreign nations are benefiting from this
Speaker 6: Ukraine situation. No one here has benefiting from it. And
Speaker 6: again it's just sort of escalating. And the problem is
Speaker 6: that because if they perceive that they can't convince America
Speaker 6: that commommunism or comma munism is legit, they're going to
Speaker 6: up the ante to make sure that there's not an election.
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that I worship don Trump. He's
Speaker 6: going safe as I'm happy to criticize Trump. I've always
Speaker 6: been pretty critical of I mean, overall, he's obviously better
Speaker 6: than Kamala, but we know it's you know, it's just
Speaker 6: limited what a president could even do. But we saw
Speaker 6: that the neo conservative Democrats have had a tremendous hand
Speaker 6: in the last four years in destroying the country. They're
Speaker 6: very effective at doing that, and I do not believe
Speaker 6: they are incompetent. I believe they are malicious, and so
Speaker 6: they could very well use this situation as the means
Speaker 6: by which there's not going to be a normal stolen
Speaker 6: re election. Trying to choose by words carefully on thank
Speaker 6: you on YouTube because we don't know what. Like, I
Speaker 6: noticed that YouTube was removing a lot of health related videos.
Speaker 6: So that was making me think they're going to continue
Speaker 6: with some form of like coof Coove part two. But
Speaker 6: but but that's been really quiet, right, coof part two
Speaker 6: has been they've been pretty quiet about that. There was
Speaker 6: some talk of monkey pox, monkey pocks. You'll always be home,
Speaker 6: sweet Home to me, good old monkey pucks, monkey pox ten.
Speaker 18: See.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that again, to reiterate this multiple times over
Speaker 6: in the d the centralized Church of Orthodoxy, if the
Speaker 6: majority of the bishops became heretics, which you see for
Speaker 6: example in the Arian Crisis in the fourth century, the
Speaker 6: majority of the churches heretics, the church can still survive.
Speaker 6: If the Roman Catholic Vatican one model is the church,
Speaker 6: then the pope becoming a heretic destroys the system. Can
Speaker 6: people not see that there's a difference between the Orthodox
Speaker 6: ecclesiology and the Roman Catholic one. So anyway, Yeah, I
Speaker 6: don't really think that monkey pox was a viable that
Speaker 6: didn't seem to go over. So now it seems like
Speaker 6: they're shifting back towards talking about the threat of Russia
Speaker 6: again and war with Russia and all this kind of
Speaker 6: stuff is like back on on the forefront. So it's
Speaker 6: they keep going back and forth. Right now, keep in mind,
Speaker 6: as we've been pointing out, there could also be economic problems. Right,
Speaker 6: we might move into an economic collapse. Right, that could
Speaker 6: be one of the cards that occurs. Some people say, well,
Speaker 6: they wouldn't do that intentionally because they want to keep
Speaker 6: milking this system, and they why would they roll out
Speaker 6: an economic collapse. Well, one reason to roll out an
Speaker 6: economic collapse could be to bring in the new system.
Speaker 6: So if they're ready to bring in UBI and all
Speaker 6: of that, an eco collapse could be very useful for that.
Speaker 6: But again war could also be useful that. But also
Speaker 6: keep in mind, you could have a double triple it up.
Speaker 6: You could have an eco collapse and war and some
Speaker 6: other you know scenario. You could have monkey pocks getting
Speaker 6: loose and then they say the Russians did it, and
Speaker 6: then this collapses the economy.
Speaker 18: You see.
Speaker 6: So all of these things are possible because we're ruled
Speaker 6: by very nasty, insane, mad scientists, corrupt people, and they
Speaker 6: have absolutely no regard for human life. They do not
Speaker 6: care about you at all. They in fact would like
Speaker 6: probably for most humans to be deepop. So there we go.
Speaker 6: So the question then is how do we get here?
Speaker 6: So now we see where we're at, we see the possibilities,
Speaker 6: how do we fight? Well, I would say, get out
Speaker 6: of these big blue cities. So we talk about this
Speaker 6: all the time. What's the solutions? Get out of these
Speaker 6: big blue cities if you can. I don't think we
Speaker 6: have to try to leave the country. I mean, you
Speaker 6: guys have heard this crazy capital game bill that she wants,
Speaker 6: and I keep hearing conflicting things because they say, oh,
Speaker 6: kamal unism. Kamala's capital gains tax is only for those
Speaker 6: with like an over one hundred million. But you see,
Speaker 6: you can't trust these websites because they'll lie about what
Speaker 6: her actual policy is. By the way, hey, if you
Speaker 6: notice her policy changes from day to day, New York
Speaker 6: itself will face a forty three percent capital gains tax.
Speaker 6: We're getting into like France levels of socialism here with us.
Speaker 6: This is crazy. So they I heard, oh, seventy percent
Speaker 6: if it's on above one hundred million. You know what's
Speaker 6: funny is that how comes she doesn't just have her
Speaker 6: policies on a website, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 6: why wouldn't you put your policies on a website? Well,
Speaker 6: I think one reason she doesn't do that is that
Speaker 6: she doesn't want you to actually know because her policy
Speaker 6: literally changes from day to day. She just literally says
Speaker 6: whatever she wants in front of an audience. So like
Speaker 6: there's not even a reliable place to see what her
Speaker 6: actual capital gains plans are because I don't think she
Speaker 6: wants it. Bernie Sanders criticized it. Well, if Bernie Sanders
Speaker 6: criticizing your socialism, why am I seeing twenty eight percent?
Speaker 6: Because literally, like two weeks ago, it was seventy percent,
Speaker 6: So where's this twenty eight coming from? Even twenty eight
Speaker 6: is crazy? Yeah, it'll destroy housing, that's absolutely correct. I
Speaker 6: mean this will destroy the economy. Like if she brings
Speaker 6: a seventy percent capital gains tax or even a twenty
Speaker 6: eight percent an unrealized gains, do you understand how crazy
Speaker 6: that is? That's insane. That's that will destroy the economy,
Speaker 6: And how would you even enforce that. So if I
Speaker 6: bought a house five years ago and I bought it
Speaker 6: for two hundred thousand dollars, and it's worth four hundred
Speaker 6: thousand dollars I owe the government two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 6: I would have to sell the house to pay the
Speaker 6: unrealized capital gains. And if everyone in the country has
Speaker 6: to do that, no one would be able to afford
Speaker 6: selling and buying anything the whole country. This is so crazy,
Speaker 6: the country would collapse. That's literally insane. And then there's
Speaker 6: all these websites. She's not going to do the No,
Speaker 6: she's not, but you can't find an actual clear statement
Speaker 6: as to what she actually wants and what she actually
Speaker 6: will do. Kamala plans to raise corporate tax to thirty
Speaker 6: five percent. She wants a forty five percent long term
Speaker 6: capital gains tax, highest since nineteen twenty two.
Speaker 18: Uh.
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, you could argue that the point oh
Speaker 6: one percent could afford it, But the problem is that
Speaker 6: if everybody has to do this, there's like, there's not
Speaker 6: enough one point oh one percent to actually buy everyone
Speaker 6: selling their houses. Do you see what I'm saying? If
Speaker 6: two hundred million Americans have to put their house up
Speaker 6: for sale or their property, the assets that have gained
Speaker 6: and by the way, it's not just houses. If I
Speaker 6: bought an antique car. Yeah, it'll it'll just really it
Speaker 6: literally collapse the co tree like there's no I mean,
Speaker 6: i'd be I'd be thinking about running down there to
Speaker 6: them Mosquito Coast with that with Tristan. Right, I'm run
Speaker 6: down there with Harrison Ford and Tristan or to damn
Speaker 6: Mosquito Coast or something. That'd be time to leave the
Speaker 6: country anyway. I don't actually think there is even a
Speaker 6: there's not a real there's no place where you can
Speaker 6: go read Kamala's policies.
Speaker 2: Is there.
Speaker 6: What's her platform? Kamala's platform, I bet you her platform
Speaker 6: is just a bunch of bull like just like slogan
Speaker 6: air bullshit. Oh, she want to cut taxes under her
Speaker 6: So here's her official plan says long term capital gains
Speaker 6: is for those earning a million dollars a year or more.
Speaker 6: So this is any small business owner basically twenty eight percent.
Speaker 6: So this is basically just socialism. And that's because her
Speaker 6: idiot followers think that a person with a million dollars
Speaker 6: is rich when that's the person who basically runs the
Speaker 6: small business that you work at. So this means more
Speaker 6: consolidation and everything being at Walmart and Target, and Amazon
Speaker 6: and you lose your job. So this will destroy even
Speaker 6: more what kof destroyed of the middle class. Make rent
Speaker 6: more affordable. How is the federal government going to make
Speaker 6: people make rent affordable? This is so ridiculous. She will
Speaker 6: provide first time home buyers with twenty five thousand dollars
Speaker 6: from where Where does this twenty five thousand dollars from
Speaker 6: Kamala come from? Oh, it's from the taxpayers socialism. So
Speaker 6: Kamala is going to take from the tax paying part
Speaker 6: of the country and give it to first time home
Speaker 6: buyers which means people from people from El savad or
Speaker 6: Ecuador HATI in other words, new visitors to America. You
Speaker 6: know what I mean? Take on bad actors. What does
Speaker 6: that mean? She's going to go after b movies. She
Speaker 6: will take on big pharma to lower drug costs. This
Speaker 6: is repeating what Donald Trump did in his first term.
Speaker 6: So this is just a borrowed from Donald Trump, who
Speaker 6: in the right mind believes that Kamala is going to
Speaker 6: take on big farm Are you kidding? Like the Democrats
Speaker 6: are literally owned by big pharma. What else is Kamala
Speaker 6: gonna do? Trump's Project twenty twenty five? Trump isn't part
Speaker 6: of this, which is unfortunate. So this isn't even true.
Speaker 6: Trump should have been part of that. The only way
Speaker 6: out of this is something like this, going in the
Speaker 6: direction of twenty twenty five. I mean, this country will
Speaker 6: collapse if we don't go in that direction. The blue
Speaker 6: haired freaks and their zillion dollar backers are going to
Speaker 6: destroy this country. Affordable education in other words, sending your
Speaker 6: offspring to be made into blue haired freaks at the university.
Speaker 6: So student debt relief, so basically more socialism where people
Speaker 6: who are tricked into going to universities to get brainwashed
Speaker 6: then have to pay two hundred thousand dollars for their
Speaker 6: brainwashing sessions for four years, and then Kamala will tax
Speaker 6: the rest of the country to forgive their debts. So
Speaker 6: socialism social low energy through climate crisis. So she wants
Speaker 6: to join us to the COP twenty eight agenda stuff,
Speaker 6: and that's going to make the climate fix. The temperatures
Speaker 6: will go down by what by green energy and sustainability.
Speaker 6: All of this green energy and sustainability actually is way
Speaker 6: more expensive, which will mean that everything goes up for you.
Speaker 6: So literally, like every policy that we've looked at from
Speaker 6: her is just a form of socialism, a form of
Speaker 6: further destroying the country. By the way, do you notice
Speaker 6: so she cares about workers. Is there anything about the borders.
Speaker 6: Do you see anything about borders here? Because that might
Speaker 6: have something to do with defending the country and the workers. Interesting,
Speaker 6: so like the number one threat to the country, and
Speaker 6: there's no mention of that here. But of course there's
Speaker 6: going to be abrations for your art hold daughters here. Okay,
Speaker 6: make our communities safe from gun violence. Okay, so get
Speaker 6: rid of the guns. And then she put Trump's twenty
Speaker 6: twenty five agenda again. Okay, where let's see she put
Speaker 6: it on the She put it on here three times,
Speaker 6: stand up to dictators. It's like this is written by
Speaker 6: like a fifth grader or something. Uh So, her actual
Speaker 6: policies are basically just socialism and Trump's bad. Okay, So
Speaker 6: there's that. If you want to support the show, you
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Speaker 6: is how we do super chats over here. Now on
Speaker 6: neck Herds, we've already talked about the papacy there, like
Speaker 6: how many we don't have to beat a dead horse.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to talk about the papacy all day,
Speaker 6: Like I have been telling you guys that Francis is
Speaker 6: a ridiculous person since he became pope. In fact, you
Speaker 6: want to know what The first review I ever did
Speaker 6: was on the internet, The first and the first one
Speaker 6: I got paid for. The first podcast was with I'm
Speaker 6: not even going to say the ridiculous person, but it
Speaker 6: was on the election of Pope Francis. It was right
Speaker 6: after Francis was elected. That was my very first online
Speaker 6: It was an online conference and I got paid like
Speaker 6: two hundred dollars for I thought it was like hot
Speaker 6: shit forgetting two hundred dollars for doing an online conference.
Speaker 6: And I did a breakdown of Francis. So let's see
Speaker 6: exactly when that was, because then I can tell you
Speaker 6: exactly how long I've been doing Internet stuff, like public
Speaker 6: audio stuff. I mean, I was doing writing articles before this,
Speaker 6: but my first like twenty thirteen. So my first public
Speaker 6: internet conference lecture that I got paid for was twenty thirteen,
Speaker 6: and I talked about Francis and his background. So so
Speaker 6: what is this twenty twenty four, twenty four, So this
Speaker 6: is eleven years of public talking, not talking about writing
Speaker 6: articles to public public yapping.
Speaker 2: How do we get here?
Speaker 6: So we talked about all this stuff. One thing we
Speaker 6: haven't gone through is some of the classic books that
Speaker 6: you guys know in the audience. But that may be
Speaker 6: some of the newcomers because heck, in the last month
Speaker 6: I've got because of the debates and stuff, there's seven
Speaker 6: thousand new new followers over here just in the last month,
Speaker 6: which is which is larger than I usually get in money.
Speaker 6: Usually I get like two thousand a month, but this
Speaker 6: month we have over here seven thousand. By the way, guys,
Speaker 6: if you don't follow me on Twitter, please do, because
Speaker 6: we're gradually I think in the next best case scenario,
Speaker 6: the next a couple of months, I could hit one
Speaker 6: hundred thousand on Twitter. So that will be a party.
Speaker 6: Libration will have one hundred thousand k on Twitter party.
Speaker 6: There's my Twitter. If you don't follow me, be sure
Speaker 6: to follow me there and help me get to hunter k.
Speaker 6: We'll have our one hundred k Twitter party over here
Speaker 6: and we'll recap all the great highlights and moments. I
Speaker 6: also want to kind of talk about this because I'm
Speaker 6: seeing this pop up a lot more. Certainly a TikTok
Speaker 6: is pushing this trend. In the algorithm. Have you heard
Speaker 6: of this deconstruction thing, deconstructing my Christianity? It seems to
Speaker 6: be very popular amongst Evangelicals, and I don't know exactly
Speaker 6: understand what this is. It's most of these people become atheists,
Speaker 6: but they go through what they call the deconstruction of
Speaker 6: their Christianity. I first heard this from a Lutheran doing
Speaker 6: some Skittles podcast a few years ago, and he was
Speaker 6: talking about deconstructing his faith. Once I went through the
Speaker 6: process of my deconstruction, I understood that what I believed
Speaker 6: really made no sense. And I'm like, what is this Deacons?
Speaker 6: Are they talking about Jacques Deidah and deconstructionism. I'm assuming
Speaker 6: it has some reference to deconstructionism. Now none of these
Speaker 6: people know what that is. Uh So I wanted to
Speaker 6: since this has been popping up everywhere suddenly, and by
Speaker 6: the way, you'll notice, algorithms feed you stuff to influence you.
Speaker 6: So out of nowhere, I typed in my name just
Speaker 6: to see what was going on on TikTok because I'm
Speaker 6: not over here a whole lot. I don't have a
Speaker 6: huge TikTok following, but I typed in to see what
Speaker 6: would come up when you put in my name and
Speaker 6: you start getting deconstructing my Christianity videos. When you typed
Speaker 6: in my name, I was like, Wow, this is crazy.
Speaker 6: So the algorithm is feeding anti Christian and pro atheist
Speaker 6: stuff to people that click my name. So I wanted
Speaker 6: to let's see what this is, because I still don't
Speaker 6: really understand what they mean.
Speaker 29: Whether or not I wanted to talk about this. I
Speaker 29: made a video saying that I go to church basically
Speaker 29: because of the routine, and that's one hundred percent what
Speaker 29: it is for me at this point, but even go
Speaker 29: so far as to say it is tradition for me
Speaker 29: in my life, and it's one that I choose to
Speaker 29: honor because it's something that I enjoy in value. I
Speaker 29: guess I've been properly deconstructing my faith for the last
Speaker 29: like three years or so.
Speaker 7: It was baptized when I was eight, and I was
Speaker 7: really fistian. I can't I'm injured.
Speaker 29: I was pretty deep into it up until I was
Speaker 29: like twenty one, twenty two, but even throughout that entire time,
Speaker 29: it was like a cycle being super convinced and then
Speaker 29: questioning kind of everything. So one of the threads that
Speaker 29: I've always been pulling out as far as Christianity goes
Speaker 29: is heaven and Hell and the idea of eternity is over.
Speaker 7: The course of my experience.
Speaker 6: Do they just be in questioning what the position is?
Speaker 6: Because I think everybody questions their positions at times, and
Speaker 6: we all go through a process of, you know, thinking
Speaker 6: through why do I believe it? Do I have good reasons?
Speaker 6: What if I'm wrong?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 6: But I don't understand why they're using this term of
Speaker 6: deconstructing my faith. It's I think like the algorithm or
Speaker 6: social engineers will put stuff out and then people will
Speaker 6: do this feedback loop where they repeat it and they
Speaker 6: think that this is like some sophisticated thing, and it's
Speaker 6: like you're just being trained to do this, But why
Speaker 6: are you calling it deconstructing my faith?
Speaker 28: Now?
Speaker 6: I don't trust the TikTok algorithm, but you know, as
Speaker 6: you guys know, it will say stuff like, oh, this
Speaker 6: has a million views, this has three million views.
Speaker 7: Right, it's with faith and religion.
Speaker 29: I would say I was much more, much more convicted
Speaker 29: than I was convinced, so I would ride the wave
Speaker 29: of feeling very convicted.
Speaker 6: About fail Notice it's riding waves of feelings. Evangelicalism typically
Speaker 6: is based on feelings, and that's why when you start
Speaker 6: to not feel it, you decide that, oh, well, God
Speaker 6: doesn't exist and I don't feel.
Speaker 29: It anymore, usually as a result of like church camp
Speaker 29: or like a specific sermon or conversation.
Speaker 6: With someone that I found how long have we been
Speaker 6: saying like this evangelical stuff is like atheism factory right.
Speaker 7: Very convicting. Then it would always come back around to
Speaker 7: the fact that I wasn't really convinced about the.
Speaker 29: Things that I think you need to be convinced about
Speaker 29: in order to really do Christianity, and Heaven and Hell
Speaker 29: is one of the big ones. What I was convinced
Speaker 29: about was that I was a deeply sinful person who
Speaker 29: felt a lot of shame and then a lot of
Speaker 29: anxiety about my shame and how deeply sinful I am,
Speaker 29: and that I needed to be saved. And that's when
Speaker 29: I would start grasping and then get back.
Speaker 7: To that convicted phase. Something I've this is.
Speaker 6: Interesting because I do think in evangelicalism especially and in
Speaker 6: the whole you know, the whole tradition of like the
Speaker 6: Protestant Revival, preacher and the tent preacher and all this
Speaker 6: kind of stuff, Like, it's very much based around a
Speaker 6: lot of psychological manipulation. Now, I don't think that every
Speaker 6: aspect or instance of feeling wrong or your conscience convicting
Speaker 6: you means that you're being manipulated. But certainly revival preachers
Speaker 6: preachers in general, especially in the evangelical sphere, they know
Speaker 6: and have perfected a lot of time techniques of human
Speaker 6: psychological manipulation. And you can watch the Margo documentary to
Speaker 6: see that in one case of a con man who
Speaker 6: admitted to doing.
Speaker 5: It, But.
Speaker 6: It's not like he's the only con man that does that.
Speaker 6: I mean you could, you could. You could conceivably be
Speaker 6: an evangelical preacher who believes what he's doing and uses
Speaker 6: manipulation tactics. Right, So it's not restricted to only con men.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of this going on, I think in
Speaker 6: the order. I mean, this could happen in the Orthodox world.
Speaker 6: You could have an abusive priest or he's a manipulative sure,
Speaker 6: but these things can happen anywhere and everywhere. But I
Speaker 6: do think they're more prevalent in the world of evangelicalism
Speaker 6: because so much of that is based on subjective feelings, experience,
Speaker 6: and not on external objective doctrines, history, dogma, et cetera.
Speaker 6: If it's all based on like the subjective, you're gonna
Speaker 6: get this kind of a situation going.
Speaker 29: Realizing is that I've been deconstructing, is that a lot
Speaker 29: of the shame and anxiety that I still struggle with
Speaker 29: today is largely due to the fact.
Speaker 7: That I was convinced that I needed to be safe
Speaker 7: and that I am not good enough. I was not
Speaker 7: born good enough. I will never be good enough without
Speaker 7: this thing.
Speaker 29: My ideas around eternity have changed a lot and been
Speaker 29: influenced in a really positive way by some of the
Speaker 29: things that have helped me along my deconstruction, which I'd
Speaker 29: like to point out, and I heard this on podcasts recently,
Speaker 29: which I will reference soon. The deconstruction part is important,
Speaker 29: but ultimately my goal is to reconstruct, to get rid
Speaker 29: of the beliefs that are actually really damaging, not only
Speaker 29: to me but to other people. And then, a big
Speaker 29: thing that I have always grappled with is the idea
Speaker 29: that homosexuality is oh.
Speaker 6: Here we go, okay, so here it's the skuttles stuff.
Speaker 6: She doesn't want to accept that Skuttles is wrong.
Speaker 2: And this other guy.
Speaker 6: He says, Oh, I've been listening to these podcasts about
Speaker 6: deconstructing this guy.
Speaker 30: Hey, did you know that Christians who deconstruct have abandoned
Speaker 30: the authority of God and made themselves their own authority,
Speaker 30: essentially becoming their own God. You may have heard that before.
Speaker 30: I definitely have, because I used to think it and
Speaker 30: I used to say it, that is, until I deconstructed.
Speaker 30: I may have put it a little less harshly and
Speaker 30: said something like, you're leaning on your own understanding instead
Speaker 30: of leaning on God, but the implication was clear. These
Speaker 30: people who deconstructed were pridefully trusting themselves rather than trusting God. Oh,
Speaker 30: of course I see things differently now. I don't speak
Speaker 30: for everyone who's deconstructed or is deconstructing, but I do
Speaker 30: think that it's helpful because there's so much talk about it,
Speaker 30: to hear from somebody who's sort of been through the process,
Speaker 30: because I think we can all understand one another a
Speaker 30: little bit better. My deconstruction didn't start with the decision
Speaker 30: to lean on my own understanding, and honestly, it felt
Speaker 30: a lot like the opposite of that.
Speaker 18: When I was a Christian.
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time making.
Speaker 30: Sure that what I believe was true, and that usually
Speaker 30: meant going to sources that had arguments that supported what
Speaker 30: I already believed.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna play this guy's whole video because I
Speaker 6: listened to it earlier, and basically he just spends four
Speaker 6: minutes saying that how do I know to trust evangelical
Speaker 6: scholars or atheist scholars? And he said, at the end
Speaker 6: of the day, I'm just trusting scholars. And then he said,
Speaker 6: why don't I just trust myself or you know, something
Speaker 6: like that. He says, I've been listening to podcasts. What
Speaker 6: are the what are the deconstruction podcasts?
Speaker 31: I remember the exact moment that I stopped believing in God,
Speaker 31: And that might be kind of unusual, I imagine for
Speaker 31: most people. You know, it's this thing that happens over time.
Speaker 31: And while things did change for me over time.
Speaker 32: There was just this like specific, exact moment that I
Speaker 32: can point to a little bit of background.
Speaker 26: This was when I was in graduate school.
Speaker 32: I had gone to a Christian college for undergrad.
Speaker 6: Notice it's almost always evangelic people that are presented with
Speaker 6: probably terrible evangelical arguments, replies in theology, and then they
Speaker 6: as how long I've been saying it's it's atheism factory.
Speaker 6: Clown church is atheism factory. I mean we've been saying
Speaker 6: this for like ten years. So I'm assuming that's where
Speaker 6: this is going.
Speaker 28: But let's see, rounded by a lot of Christians who
Speaker 28: were charismatic or pentecoster, there we go.
Speaker 6: So feelings based, charismatic, gibberish, nonsense church, and that's what
Speaker 6: she's surrounded by. I bet you she went to some
Speaker 6: like freaking who's that TV? Some like TV preacher school,
Speaker 6: like who's that guy that had a big university Oral Roberts, Right,
Speaker 6: she probably wanted to like Oral Roberts university, lot.
Speaker 31: Of speaking tongues, doing miracles, giving prophecies.
Speaker 6: And being well, yeah, once you figure out that all
Speaker 6: that stuff is bunk, then if you think of Christianity
Speaker 6: as that, and then you realize none of these people
Speaker 6: are predicting the future, they're not doing miracles. They're rolling
Speaker 6: around acting like idiots and barking like dogs and giggling,
Speaker 6: thinking that that's worshiping God. Then it's like I'm out
Speaker 6: of here.
Speaker 32: Bro surrounded by that made me feel like I was
Speaker 32: really part of something exciting that.
Speaker 26: Like God's doing good work.
Speaker 6: But interestingly I was God's a concert, bro, God's like
Speaker 6: a concert.
Speaker 31: Never the one who actually did those things.
Speaker 26: I was just sort of adjacent to it.
Speaker 31: So I get to grad school, no one has any
Speaker 31: idea what.
Speaker 32: I'm talking about with any of those things. I'm a
Speaker 32: total weirdo, and so I spend more and more time
Speaker 32: kind of.
Speaker 21: Isolated, just trying so hard to kind of catch up
Speaker 21: to where my college friends were. I really wanted God
Speaker 21: to like show up to do some miracles, like all
Speaker 21: my friends had seen.
Speaker 6: They told me, yeah, but none of that charismatic stuff
Speaker 6: is legit. There were no there weren't. There weren't miracles
Speaker 6: in the Pentecostal churches. It's all people hyped up on
Speaker 6: their motion and deceiving themselves, and that's why it leaves
Speaker 6: everybody empty.
Speaker 24: I get asked a lot about deconstruction, especially when people
Speaker 24: find out that I deconstructed before deconstruction was even a term.
Speaker 6: Oh, like this gen next, it was way ahead everybody.
Speaker 6: He was like sohad like he was into deconstruction before
Speaker 6: their first like before you even even had their first CD.
Speaker 6: Like he was following Deconstruction, bro, like before you were even,
Speaker 6: like when you were in diapers, like I was at
Speaker 6: the Deconstruction show at the exit in in Nashville, bro,
Speaker 6: Like they were playing live, Like I felt their sweat
Speaker 6: dripping on me when they were live before you were
Speaker 6: even a bro like, comes way out of.
Speaker 24: You nineties and came back to the faith twenty years
Speaker 24: later becoming a pastor And oh shit, but in coming back,
Speaker 24: I was the pastor the establishment did not really like
Speaker 24: because I am far less worried about.
Speaker 6: Those I'm like so hip and cool, bro Like, this
Speaker 6: establishment didn't like me as a pastor or whatever.
Speaker 33: So like, come to my church, bro, we questioned God
Speaker 33: doubt or are in the midst of deconstructing from the
Speaker 33: American style performance based church system.
Speaker 5: And let's be real.
Speaker 6: Yeah, faith is a journey.
Speaker 1: It's not a static destination.
Speaker 6: And Okay, we're ex Christians.
Speaker 34: Of course we're going to speak about something we dedicated
Speaker 34: years of our lives to. We're ex Christians. We love
Speaker 34: the believer, we're just not too fond of the belief.
Speaker 1: We're ex Christians.
Speaker 2: Open.
Speaker 6: I hate these TikTok style videos where people are like
Speaker 6: talking to themselves like they're alternate, like they've got alters,
Speaker 6: and or they're like dissociating, and it's this is so
Speaker 6: lame and go back, even if.
Speaker 2: We wanted to.
Speaker 34: We're ex Christians. We're not mocking your religion. We're just
Speaker 34: pointing out the flaws within it.
Speaker 6: Okay, where's the I want to know what deconstruction is explained?
Speaker 26: Deconstructed Christians. When you as a child, we're scared of
Speaker 26: the boogeyman under your bed.
Speaker 35: We were scared of eternal damnation. And hell, we're deconstructed Christians.
Speaker 36: We get accused all the time of not being real
Speaker 36: Christians just because we we're deconstructed the hell. Hi, welcome
Speaker 36: back to my series reasons why I no longer identify
Speaker 36: as Christian and buckle up because this one is going
Speaker 36: to be a doozy.
Speaker 37: I'm gonna ruffle.
Speaker 6: See if you touch this thing it starts over.
Speaker 37: Hi, welcome back to my serious reasons why I no
Speaker 37: longer identify as Christian and buckle up because this one
Speaker 37: is going to be a doozy. I'm gonna ruffle a
Speaker 37: lot of feathers with this one.
Speaker 6: So edgy, Like, what how where is this edgy? I?
Speaker 6: Don't understand, like, literally the whole country is basically a
Speaker 6: bunch of Satanic pagans, So how is this even edgy?
Speaker 15: Like ruffled feathers.
Speaker 37: I was on the phone with my friend the other
Speaker 37: day and they said to me, you know, I'm really
Speaker 37: surprised that you're, you know, still so passionate about deconstruction
Speaker 37: because you've been on this journey for years. Personally, I
Speaker 37: believe one's deconstruction journey, especially with indoctrination, never really ends. However,
Speaker 37: like I'm just as passionate but about it. When I
Speaker 37: started as.
Speaker 6: I am, now, yeah, why are they calling it this?
Speaker 6: Who came up with this term?
Speaker 28: That?
Speaker 6: Suddenly all of these people repeat and pair it like
Speaker 6: my controlled slaves? I don't understand where this comes from.
Speaker 6: And they asked, does anyone that chat know where this
Speaker 6: is coming from? I mean, clearly it's evolving out of
Speaker 6: the Protestant sphere because I only hear the ex evangelicals
Speaker 6: saying this. But there had to be some podcast because
Speaker 6: they all say, I was listening to podcasts, so where's
Speaker 6: this coming from?
Speaker 37: And instantly I made the connection and I had never
Speaker 37: really thought about it before. The Evangelical church taught me
Speaker 37: that I was a victim. They taught me that I
Speaker 37: was persecuted, and to be joyful that I was persecuted.
Speaker 37: They taught me that my persecution and my oppression made me.
Speaker 38: Closer to God.
Speaker 37: It validated that I was chosen and I was doing
Speaker 37: something right. But then I grew up and I realized
Speaker 37: that the religion that I was a part of was
Speaker 37: the oppressor in this country, and that messed me up
Speaker 37: so badly.
Speaker 6: How in the world could anybody think that Christianity is
Speaker 6: the oppressor in America, which America is basically anti Christian,
Speaker 6: post Christian at this point, So like, how are you
Speaker 6: getting oppressed in a post Christian Satanic country. I don't
Speaker 6: understand that my.
Speaker 37: Religion upheld the system of enslaved people. My religion was
Speaker 37: the reason why LGBTQ plus people could not get married
Speaker 37: or walking out of the house together without getting lynched.
Speaker 6: Okay, so a bunch of maloney that, uh, Christianity is
Speaker 6: oppressing as good as people from marriage and they were
Speaker 6: literally gonna get lynched walking outside.
Speaker 39: Says Jesus will heal with you, Jesus will save you,
Speaker 39: Jesus will deliver you, Jesus will set you free Jesus. Jesus,
Speaker 39: Jesus will Well, the truth is, and the data is,
Speaker 39: and the reality is, Jesus will do none of those
Speaker 39: things for you.
Speaker 1: If you want those things done for you, you need
Speaker 1: to do it for yourself.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean again, I can tell you. In the
Speaker 6: evangelical world, like you know, they present Jesus as the
Speaker 6: self help thing that like fixes your problems, right, like
Speaker 6: my financial problems and my relationship problems, and Jesus my boyfriend,
Speaker 6: all that stuff. The way that it's presented in this
Speaker 6: whole domain again, it's really just uh, it's really just
Speaker 6: the factory of atheism because God is not a self
Speaker 6: help thing. And that's what I think a lot of
Speaker 6: these people were told that it was. And this is
Speaker 6: the danger of these This is the problem with heresy.
Speaker 6: Heresy and all this stuff produces these angry, bitter people
Speaker 6: because heresy is really an inauthentic delusion. It's not just
Speaker 6: something wrong, but it promotes delusion, and it promotes the
Speaker 6: false idea of what it is, and then it creates
Speaker 6: all these train wrecks as a result.
Speaker 40: Because I moved to Los Angeles and fell victim to
Speaker 40: the ways of the world, at least that's what happened,
Speaker 40: according to a lot of people who say this every
Speaker 40: time I open my big fat mouth and talk about
Speaker 40: my deconstruction on the internet, as I did recently on
Speaker 40: Howie Mandel's podcast Listen, I lost my faith because I
Speaker 40: moved the Los angel a long episode of my podcast
Speaker 40: where I told my story in detail.
Speaker 6: So I don't know what this keeps freezing? This sucks, Okay,
Speaker 6: So where's where do we go to read.
Speaker 38: Real and genuine? When I say this, the book that
Speaker 38: helped me deconstruct Christianity by far the most was the Bible.
Speaker 38: And I mean this completely wholeheartedly, genuinely. I read the
Speaker 38: Bible far more now than I did when I was
Speaker 38: a Christian. Learning about the different parts of the Bible,
Speaker 38: what types of literary tools are used in the writing
Speaker 38: of different books of the Bible, Learning which parts of
Speaker 38: the Bible.
Speaker 6: You didn't learn that when you were a Christian. Maybe
Speaker 6: that would have been the time to learn that, Like
Speaker 6: why is she learning this now that she's not a Christian?
Speaker 6: I mean, doesn't that itself say quite a bit right there?
Speaker 35: Well?
Speaker 1: Our letters?
Speaker 38: Who the letters are too? Learning which parts of learning.
Speaker 6: That parts of the Bible are poetry and letters. You
Speaker 6: didn't know that.
Speaker 38: I mean the Bible are poetry and use metaphorical language.
Speaker 38: Looking at context for everybody's favorite weapanized Bible versus There's
Speaker 38: a lot of parts of the Bible that when you look.
Speaker 6: At it, she has to be context pretty intellectual because
Speaker 6: you've got gigantic glasses and you wouldn't be You wouldn't
Speaker 6: wear those kinds of glasses unless you were really high
Speaker 6: a Q. So definitely a lot to listen to. There's
Speaker 6: got to be music.
Speaker 41: Yes, yes, it is sorry to tell you like this,
Speaker 41: but but God bless you and Jesus loves you.
Speaker 18: It is pretty toxic.
Speaker 41: It's a way of letting others know that you have
Speaker 41: something that we don't, that we are missing out on
Speaker 41: God's love, and that we need to be reminded that
Speaker 41: He loves.
Speaker 6: Us no matter how lost we are. Why does this
Speaker 6: guy have a nineteen ninety eight wine mom Italian poster
Speaker 6: with a cat in the background because he had his mom?
Speaker 6: Is this his ant's house? What's going on now?
Speaker 41: You think you're being kind, but in reality you're not.
Speaker 41: When someone tells me that Jesus loves me, two things.
Speaker 6: Cross my mind. First, remember all that Tuscany dcor that
Speaker 6: was popular in the nineties. Why is this atheist jamies
Speaker 6: in their laughing Why does this atheist dude have Tuscany decor?
Speaker 14: Is that sounds nuts to tell someone who doesn't believe
Speaker 14: in your God, God doesn't exist, because I realize how
Speaker 14: beautiful Tuscany dukor was from the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 6: So just a nice little body, little Kianti is all
Speaker 6: I need. I don't need God.
Speaker 41: For God, that your God loves them sounds absolutely psychotic.
Speaker 41: And even after I tell you that I don't believe
Speaker 41: in your uh buh imaginary friend, well, why would it
Speaker 41: sounds like?
Speaker 6: I mean, just just saying that my deity loves you
Speaker 6: doesn't mean that doesn't sound psychotic.
Speaker 41: Imaginary friend, you follow up with Jesus loves you. Why
Speaker 41: would I care what your imaginary friend.
Speaker 6: Thinks of this guy says he's probably the Antichrist. Dude,
Speaker 6: that's so edgy, bro.
Speaker 1: Every there.
Speaker 42: My brain breaks when I think.
Speaker 6: About, oh, she had a Whitney shirt.
Speaker 42: On the fact that Christianity is built off of a contradiction,
Speaker 42: the same concept that got Satan kicked out of heaven.
Speaker 42: Adam and Eve kicked out of the garden. Is this
Speaker 42: same concept that made Christ qualify to die on the
Speaker 42: cross for humanity and the same concept humanity has to
Speaker 42: follow to be qualified to get into fucking heaven.
Speaker 43: Being more like God.
Speaker 42: Now people will say, well, Satan was disobedient, but nobody
Speaker 42: will ask, how did Satan have the ability to be disobedient?
Speaker 42: If sin never existed in heaven and disobedience is sin,
Speaker 42: That's a real question to fucking ask. Nobody ever asked
Speaker 42: how was it after Adam and Eve eight.
Speaker 2: Of the what do you mean?
Speaker 6: Nobody ever asked that? That's been like? I like that
Speaker 6: one of the top religious theological debates in the history
Speaker 6: of religion. It is like the notion of free will
Speaker 6: and the existence of evil. I mean, nobody ever asked that.
Speaker 6: It's pretty pretty I mean, you're MII might not agree
Speaker 6: with the answers, but you're not the first person to
Speaker 6: ask this fruit in the garden.
Speaker 42: The first thing that they experienced was guilt and shame.
Speaker 42: When the fruit was supposed to make them like God.
Speaker 42: You mean to tell me this motherfucker walking around feel
Speaker 42: like guilty and shameful?
Speaker 1: Tell you Christ was perfect?
Speaker 42: But my question is, why does the Bible depict God's
Speaker 42: perfect is being superior to Christ perfect? And if they
Speaker 42: are God in three person, why didn't.
Speaker 6: The Trinity?
Speaker 20: Is?
Speaker 5: Just like.
Speaker 38: My brain breaks.
Speaker 44: I don't know what I believe about God, but these
Speaker 44: are a few things that you can't deny Christians absolutely.
Speaker 6: Eight The phrase let go and let God.
Speaker 26: You know, the first time somebody said.
Speaker 27: That, they were like, we write that.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 18: It's so succinct.
Speaker 44: It rolls off the tongue, the alliteration. Even if you
Speaker 44: don't believe in God, you're gonna find yourself tempted to.
Speaker 6: Say, okay, need to let.
Speaker 15: Go, Oh my God, Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 6: Right, I'm sure that I really need to listen to
Speaker 6: you single mom Claire. Here about our theological religious traditions.
Speaker 26: There, every religion has their own form of it. Even
Speaker 26: the atheists have. Like meditation, we can't deny it's so
Speaker 26: good for us, and what a sea to get.
Speaker 6: Like older, it's like so good for us or whatever,
Speaker 6: like have you ever heard of like meditation or whatever.
Speaker 6: It's pretty much like pary of us. So good for us.
Speaker 44: Men doing a daily meditation practice love it. Number three
Speaker 44: the music Hillsong Bethel so good.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I'm I how would you even? You
Speaker 6: have to be completely ignorant of everything? I mean, does
Speaker 6: nobody like deconstruction if you wanted to deconstruct, like maybe
Speaker 6: think about where did the Bible come from? You Notice
Speaker 6: their deconstructing is all self, it's all their own subjectives self.
Speaker 15: Where that gets jugged?
Speaker 45: When I first felt bad and had bad feelies, that
Speaker 45: made me the preacher?
Speaker 6: And what about deconstructing and thinking about, well, where does
Speaker 6: the religion come from? Because if you thought about where
Speaker 6: the religion came from, you would think, well, maybe Hillsong
Speaker 6: is not the source of Christianity, or like maybe there
Speaker 6: was something before Hillsong. But this you're seeing a window
Speaker 6: into the mindset of like the normies and the average
Speaker 6: people out there. I'm not meaning to be rude or arrogant,
Speaker 6: but this is the mindset of most people. Is this
Speaker 6: kind of stuff? I think she's trying to be funny too,
Speaker 6: which is it's not actually funny.
Speaker 44: Oh Heaven must be real because I go there when
Speaker 44: I hear the song the Blessing by Kerry Joe Five
Speaker 44: Children and their Children, it's good disappointment she's.
Speaker 6: Trying to be funny, but in her mind like Heaven
Speaker 6: is like the best pop song that year.
Speaker 26: Heard Emotions, it feels good, number four, It feels good.
Speaker 6: You notice almost every evangelical that we've listened to who's
Speaker 6: deconstructed has talked about how they felt and their feelings,
Speaker 6: even the dudes. The word blessing.
Speaker 44: I know the Christians don't completely own this, but they
Speaker 44: definitely don't think somebody's Christian If they say, like, oh,
Speaker 44: that blessed to.
Speaker 1: Me, that's blessing. I think it's just such a delicate No.
Speaker 6: I think that they're even word that really.
Speaker 44: Wraps up exactly how it feels to be blessed. And
Speaker 44: no matter where I am in my like faith block,
Speaker 44: whatever my faith, I will always.
Speaker 46: Say that blessed me.
Speaker 1: This is a blessing. You're a blessing.
Speaker 18: It's so good.
Speaker 6: Look at that poor baby over there. He's just like,
Speaker 6: when is it's gonna end? When it's gonna end? That
Speaker 6: poor baby has been tortured by his mommy's tiktoks. He
Speaker 6: looks miserable.
Speaker 1: Because I just want the idea that I'm.
Speaker 2: I want someone else to.
Speaker 6: What is wrong. Like all of the people who are
Speaker 6: twenty five an under completely losing their mind. They're completely gone.
Speaker 6: She's got green hair, she's she's crying about the oppression
Speaker 6: in the Bible. What is she even talking about? But
Speaker 6: by the way, uh, why is oppression wrong? Like on
Speaker 6: what basis? I mean, I believe that oppression is wrong,
Speaker 6: but I have a basis for it. So what's the
Speaker 6: basis for oppression being wrong?
Speaker 1: I don't understand the world, guys, I don't understand.
Speaker 21: I don't understand any of it.
Speaker 7: I don't understand people that.
Speaker 2: Everybody else is.
Speaker 44: Can't begin to describe to you how valid your emotions
Speaker 44: and thoughts and Okay.
Speaker 6: But wait a minute. If nobody can tell other people
Speaker 6: that they're wrong, you just told everybody that they're wrong.
Speaker 6: By thinking that you can tell people they're wrong, It's
Speaker 6: amazing how silly and foolish people are, which is probably
Speaker 6: why Scripture says that the fool has said in his
Speaker 6: heart there's no God. When you say that, when you
Speaker 6: go in that direction, you have the appearance of wisdom
Speaker 6: and insight and knowledge and reasoning and all this stuff,
Speaker 6: But in reality, you're becoming a fool. And what happens
Speaker 6: is that you don't even realize that the very things
Speaker 6: you're saying are contradictory to say that you can never
Speaker 6: tell people they're wrong and that you're a bigot. If
Speaker 6: you try to tell other people are wrong, you're being
Speaker 6: a bigot because you're telling people they have to be relativists.
Speaker 29: Feelings are about this topic that was getting very emotional
Speaker 29: the first time I watched this video, because.
Speaker 6: Why are you getting emotional? The only emotion I have
Speaker 6: is laughter at this ridiculous woman. What so again, we
Speaker 6: don't need. This is women being moved by their emotions
Speaker 6: and not by their rational faculty. And that's why we
Speaker 6: can't go to these people for this kind of stuff.
Speaker 47: Does anybody else find an interesting and in popular Christianity
Speaker 47: it goes without being said that God is a man
Speaker 47: until somebody suggests that God might be a woman. Then
Speaker 47: the response from Bible thumpers is God doesn't have a gender,
Speaker 47: He is beyond gender. If God can't be confined to
Speaker 47: a gender, why do we require everybody to refer to
Speaker 47: God as he will not refer to God?
Speaker 6: Well, in a sense, he does have a gender because
Speaker 6: He came as the son, and the son became in
Speaker 6: carnate as a man, and so his father God is
Speaker 6: the Father. But it's not a strict biological identity. It
Speaker 6: is a both and a not an either or.
Speaker 25: Does anybody else sign it?
Speaker 18: What is?
Speaker 20: There's some insane but very common Christian loopholes. Some Christians
Speaker 20: are completely against Halloween, but you know they're going to
Speaker 20: do a fall festival. They're going to do a little
Speaker 20: trunk or treat with their church. Everyone dresses up, there's candy.
Speaker 20: They're doing what the rest of the world does on Halloween.
Speaker 20: This loophole is so funny to me because I'm just like,
Speaker 20: just go trigger treating. As you will know, most of
Speaker 20: the Amish are not allowed to drive cars.
Speaker 25: This is a traditional form of transportation.
Speaker 20: But also very common for them to hire English people,
Speaker 20: which are non Amish people, to drive them around. For
Speaker 20: some Amish, their church does allow them to do this
Speaker 20: for others.
Speaker 6: This is well, this is just pointing out the phariseeical
Speaker 6: hypocritical stupidity of cults. I mean a little bit of.
Speaker 20: A loophole, but I do not blame them. Now Mormons,
Speaker 20: this makes sense. They're not allowed to drink coffee or tea.
Speaker 20: You would think no caffeine at all. No, the Mormons
Speaker 20: have their caffeine fixed, Cruce, sodas, waves and soaking cornerstones.
Speaker 18: At being Mormon.
Speaker 20: At my conservative Christian college, we weren't allowed to dance.
Speaker 20: You might be saying, but everyone's dancing here, everyone's dancing here.
Speaker 20: But this is actually okay because it's not dancing, it's choreography.
Speaker 20: Let's talk about how bundies have chaperones on their dates.
Speaker 20: This is an interesting loophole to me because they always have.
Speaker 6: I actually like this video. She's actually doing a good
Speaker 6: job so far. Like I mean, this is the kind
Speaker 6: of stupid stuff that I would point out amongst a
Speaker 6: lot of cults that are totally hypocritical.
Speaker 20: Chaperones are like below the age of thirteen. They have
Speaker 20: them on their dates for accountability. But I'm like, if
Speaker 20: you really wanted some who was going to watch you
Speaker 20: and hold you accountable, you would hire a sibling who's
Speaker 20: not seven.
Speaker 6: No that I've never heard of bringing a thirteen year
Speaker 6: old or a ten year old on your date as
Speaker 6: a chaperone. That's just the parent. That's just the parents
Speaker 6: getting away with free babysitting right there.
Speaker 18: That's all that is.
Speaker 6: That's retarded dude, women.
Speaker 20: Who are just like I waited. They'll do all the things,
Speaker 20: but like everyone knows that you were having and to
Speaker 20: make sure that you were still in the eyes of
Speaker 20: the church, in the eyes of Christianity, and then they'll
Speaker 20: walk around high and mighty for the rest of them.
Speaker 6: I don't know what a V card is, but do
Speaker 6: I get a bitcoin refund? Do I get a two
Speaker 6: percent bitcoin payback on my V card when I use
Speaker 6: it at the gas station? What do y'all think? Delphinitely, bro,
Speaker 6: five dollars, Thank you for these studies. Do you listen
Speaker 6: to the new Neuro album?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: I forgot that, so they delayed it coming out and
Speaker 6: it's out now and I just shared that I forgot
Speaker 6: to download it. In fact, I'm gonna do that right now.
Speaker 6: So I have not yet heard the new Neuro album.
Speaker 6: But hey, I'm excited. What we're like ten years? Nine years?
Speaker 6: There's good, good things happening, guys. It's not all bad.
Speaker 6: The stars are aligning. Did you see that Nero liked
Speaker 6: my post the other day? I was like, whoa dude,
Speaker 6: We're in some weird dimension where Oasis comes back. Nero
Speaker 6: has a new album after nine years. I mean, I
Speaker 6: don't know what is going on, but as there's good
Speaker 6: signs as well as bad signs, I don't know what that.
Speaker 6: Everything is just so crazy. It's just all weird timing
Speaker 6: though we're in the nineties again. Somehow we're in some
Speaker 6: sort of cern alternate dimension where the nineties are back,
Speaker 6: but it's also apocalyptic almost. I don't know.
Speaker 20: So they're lives, and I just want to say to them, like,
Speaker 20: you were not a you did things that other people
Speaker 20: consider to be also it's a construct. Anyways, What are
Speaker 20: some of your favorite loopholes? We're some insane but very
Speaker 20: common Christian loopholes. Some Christians are completely I.
Speaker 6: Liked I heard video.
Speaker 2: It was good too.
Speaker 1: What is God?
Speaker 6: What's with the videos of all these evangelical teenagers crying?
Speaker 6: I don't understand what, Like they're having melted down. They're
Speaker 6: doing this to get attention.
Speaker 37: I guess out of the trenches not.
Speaker 48: To shit on this, you know, endearing moment or in
Speaker 48: this endearing motivational video that inspires so many It's so
Speaker 48: funny that from a group of people, not these people specifically,
Speaker 48: but a lot of these people who believe in this religion,
Speaker 48: and I make my content.
Speaker 49: They always say, well, you can't expect God to do X,
Speaker 49: Y and Z because he's not a genie. Yet y'all
Speaker 49: are walking around saying you love him because he pulled
Speaker 49: you out of the trenches. Isn't that something that he's
Speaker 49: doing for you because you've probably prayed to get out
Speaker 49: of the trenches and he answered that prayer, and that's
Speaker 49: why you love him. Right, that's not even the overall point.
Speaker 49: Because I remember time in my life where I was
Speaker 49: a Christian and when somebody would ask me why I
Speaker 49: followed God, I would say the same thing because of
Speaker 49: the things that he brought me through, the things that
Speaker 49: he gave me strength to endure.
Speaker 6: So once again, the bases are all purely subjective, nothing
Speaker 6: to do with like the external and like what's rationally
Speaker 6: the case, what is the evidence point to, what's the
Speaker 6: philosophical argument for it? It's subjective feelings. And of course
Speaker 6: she's going to cite some goofy evangelical wine Mom podcast.
Speaker 6: If you are a Christian money and I's an alcohol
Speaker 6: wine Mom Hong Kong, this is like God on X
Speaker 6: five dollars. To me, the Vatican one system is impossible
Speaker 6: for a fallen man to maintain. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 6: think that's part of it. Of course, they're just gonna say, well,
Speaker 6: if God can provide and guide the church to preserve
Speaker 6: the scriptures, and if God can preserve tradition, he can
Speaker 6: preserve a hope. Yeah, he could do that. But the
Speaker 6: question is is that the governance that he chose for
Speaker 6: the church, And if so, why are there's so many
Speaker 6: counter examples in the history of the Church that really
Speaker 6: really only a few one or two counterexamples should undo
Speaker 6: the people claims about it. So if patar are ten dollars,
Speaker 6: the Orthodox pray to the saints, Yes, we believe in
Speaker 6: the intercession of saints. Watched the argument that I have
Speaker 6: with the guy at the beginning of yesterday's five hour
Speaker 6: line stream. Jesus said, did not pray to the dead
Speaker 6: Jesus mediator, Well, the saints are alive to God. They're
Speaker 6: not dead. That's why Jesus says Abraham is not dead
Speaker 6: but lives to God. In the Book of Revelation five, six, seven, eight,
Speaker 6: the Saints are seen interceding and praying and bon Jovie
Speaker 6: in nineteen twelve fifty dollars, Thank you so much, Jay
Speaker 6: I'm sure you've discussed this, but would Catholicism just be
Speaker 6: another form of utopianism putting the pope as god man
Speaker 6: on earth. This has been criticized. It was the criticism
Speaker 6: ultimately of Dostoevsky in the famous Grand Inquisitor chapter, that
Speaker 6: the earthly geopolitical power turned to the papacy, the Tomma
Speaker 6: Grigorn reforms has resulted in a earthly power based religion,
Speaker 6: which is a form of utopianism. And so that's actually
Speaker 6: the entire point of Dostievsky's Famous Inquisitor chapter. So he
Speaker 6: was making that argument. Saint Justin Popovich echoes that in
Speaker 6: his critique of the papacy as well as the key
Speaker 6: example of Renaissance humanism. So yes, faith, faith in life
Speaker 6: in Christ by Saint Justin Popovich and the Grand Inquisitor
Speaker 6: make that point, bon Jovi exactly. Now, I don't think
Speaker 6: we're exactly there yet to where Roman Catholicism is literally
Speaker 6: just this attempt at a utopian building of the Kingdom
Speaker 6: of God on earth. But the seeds have been there,
Speaker 6: and if you know, he continues in the path that
Speaker 6: it's on, which I don't see how how it could
Speaker 6: be otherwise. I mean, the only thing I could see
Speaker 6: is that it it, it goes away and converts to Orthodoxy,
Speaker 6: and then whoever doesn't convert the Orthodoxy real Orthodoxy is
Speaker 6: the Roman thing becomes this other world religion. That's Chris
Speaker 6: lom new Agu something emotional appeal, Gordon one dollar. You
Speaker 6: cannot reject the papacy. Well, that's funny because even the
Speaker 6: papacy admits that the Orthodox Church, which has rejected the
Speaker 6: papacy for one thousand years, has maintained his existence as
Speaker 6: believers in the true Faith, in the One True Gospel
Speaker 6: and so forth. So how have we maintained our existence
Speaker 6: for a thousand years if we can't do that without
Speaker 6: the pope? Patar five dollars? Is a baptism require for
Speaker 6: salvation Orthodoxy? Yes, salvation is not a one time sinner's
Speaker 6: prayer thing. It's an ongoing thing throughout your life. Any
Speaker 6: Montese one dollar. I'd like to see you and Sam
Speaker 6: interact and have a debate. Well, I mean, I don't
Speaker 6: want to have a falling out with Sam. I love Sam.
Speaker 6: I don't want to see him go in the wrong direction,
Speaker 6: even if he chose to go to the Alicism. I
Speaker 6: still be friendly with him. I'm friendly with Tim Gordon,
Speaker 6: but we don't have to debate to have a discussion
Speaker 6: about these topics. Squad ten dollars. Do you know what
Speaker 6: glass beat is? Can you give your two cents on it?
Speaker 6: I don't know what that is? But is this getting
Speaker 6: into something dirty or something? I don't know what that is?
Speaker 6: Jake Burnet's one dollar. What is the imminent threat to
Speaker 6: America's success in the near future? The most imminent threat?
Speaker 6: It's all of them together, right, I mean, it's like
Speaker 6: the lack of enforcing the laws that already exist.
Speaker 2: About about the Wonder Wall.
Speaker 6: It's the toxic culture, it's the attack on biology in children.
Speaker 6: I mean, all of these things are kind of like
Speaker 6: the central threats. So it's hard to say that there's one.
Speaker 6: All these bonds three dollars. Kamala is not any intellectual.
Speaker 6: She's a fake and a fraud. Yeah, you know, I'm
Speaker 6: kind of at that point where it's like, is she
Speaker 6: just totally out to lunch in an idiot or is
Speaker 6: she cunning and a little more malicious and she plays
Speaker 6: dumber than she is. Some people do this, and some
Speaker 6: politicians can actually effectively do this. I'm not spent enough
Speaker 6: time listening to Kamala to really pay attention. But she
Speaker 6: probably is an idiot, but she could be more cunning
Speaker 6: and be playing the dumb facade to get away with
Speaker 6: more stuff at Flora. Ten dollars do work, Jay, this
Speaker 6: is kind of work. I mean, I'm starting to get
Speaker 6: a headache from all these goobers and goofballs. I don't
Speaker 6: know if I could take much more of that. I
Speaker 6: still haven't figured out or heard a clear answer as
Speaker 6: to what deconstruction is.
Speaker 35: Please just give me a little bit of your time.
Speaker 35: It is not our job Christians to make our religion
Speaker 35: the law.
Speaker 50: Of the land.
Speaker 6: That is not what actually Ultimately it is so not true.
Speaker 6: Donelle says, I will be given a talk on religious trauma.
Speaker 6: So this is religious trauma. I mean it's not. I mean,
Speaker 6: if this is religious trauma, then going to a concert
Speaker 6: is religious trauma, because I mean I see Taylor Swift Chicks,
Speaker 6: Swifties crying and acting a fool just like these evangelicals do. So,
Speaker 6: I mean, everybody twenty five and under calls everything trauma.
Speaker 6: It's like I didn't try to negotiaton today.
Speaker 15: I was traumatized because somebody looked at me.
Speaker 2: Weird.
Speaker 15: Trauma.
Speaker 6: Everything is trauma.
Speaker 26: Why did God decide communicates through literature something?
Speaker 43: This may hurt a couple of Christians feelings, but let's
Speaker 43: ask this question. What if God intended for that to happen?
Speaker 43: Rather than think that God has everything in our best interest?
Speaker 43: Why can't we for one moment? And I know it
Speaker 43: might be blasphemous for some, for some of y'all Christians,
Speaker 43: why she.
Speaker 6: Wearing an ink? I mean, if God a bad dude,
Speaker 6: then why she turned into Was she gonna be an Egyptian?
Speaker 6: Egyptian prince? She a queen?
Speaker 50: It's so interesting to me that when I was a Christian,
Speaker 50: when I.
Speaker 6: Wasn't I mean, is Egyptology more rational than what we believe?
Speaker 6: I mean, Egyptology is crazy.
Speaker 50: Evangelical worship leader.
Speaker 6: When I served on minute, when I was an evangelical
Speaker 6: worship leader and ran the ministry teams. Problem number one,
Speaker 6: So women are not supposed to be leading the church.
Speaker 50: Three teams when I was preaching, when I was praying
Speaker 50: for when I was preaching.
Speaker 6: Number one problem right there, We're not supposed to be
Speaker 6: preaching people.
Speaker 50: No one ever doubted the legitimacy of my salvation.
Speaker 51: No one ever said, I don't know if you're really
Speaker 51: a Christian, And certainly no one ever doubted that I
Speaker 51: truly believed in God, that I really did have relationship
Speaker 51: with Jesus.
Speaker 6: You'll notice in all of the evangelical situations here, it's
Speaker 6: all it's all purely individual and subjective. And you can't
Speaker 6: call into question my relationship with Jesus because Jesus my boyfriend,
Speaker 6: and it's never ever about objective things. This is the
Speaker 6: problem with this whole delusion. And look, every person that
Speaker 6: we've gone through who's deconstructing is a former evangelical.
Speaker 51: Now now that I've come out as an atheist and
Speaker 51: said that I no longer believe in any God's or deities,
Speaker 51: I am constantly told that I must have never been
Speaker 51: a real Christian, that I never believed, that I'm a fraud.
Speaker 51: This is all called the no trus gods and fallacy,
Speaker 51: by the way, because as long as I was serving
Speaker 51: their agenda and believing what they believed and being.
Speaker 2: A good way.
Speaker 6: Wait, it's what does she say, the not trust God
Speaker 6: gods did fallacy, the no true Scotsman fallacy? She got
Speaker 6: it held I gotta hear those the no true gods
Speaker 6: and fallacy? Is that what she said?
Speaker 50: Because as long as I.
Speaker 51: Was serving their agenda and believing what they believed and
Speaker 51: being a good little sheep like the rest of them,
Speaker 51: then bought some fallacy by the way, that I'm a fraud.
Speaker 50: This is all called the no true Scots and fallacy.
Speaker 6: Okay, No, she did say no true scotsman fallacy.
Speaker 51: So I was serving their agenda and believing what they
Speaker 51: believed and being a good little sheep like the rest
Speaker 51: of them, then I was praised and I was absolutely
Speaker 51: validated in my belief.
Speaker 6: And no, they're all talking about if you notice the
Speaker 6: term they all use the same terms, right, they're all deconstructing,
Speaker 6: and I needed to be validated, and I'm just deconstructing
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 6: People are really just regurgitators, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: That's the sad part is that. I mean, I think
Speaker 6: for a lot of these people, they probably really were
Speaker 6: mistreated or they obviously saw the absurdity and whatever evangelical
Speaker 6: thing they were in, and so they go to TikTok
Speaker 6: and they go to internet. They got that podcast, and
Speaker 6: they find people making interesting and valid points about the
Speaker 6: absurdities of all that, and then they just regurgitate, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. So they're basically just spinning back
Speaker 6: out what other TikTokers are saying.
Speaker 50: One thought that I was being afraught. I was given
Speaker 50: the benefit of the doubt. But now my denial of
Speaker 50: their dogma is such a threat.
Speaker 25: You're not horny.
Speaker 26: You actually just need a.
Speaker 6: Hug you need That's what I'm talking about. That's what
Speaker 6: I'm talking about. That's just a speaking my language right now.
Speaker 47: What's called a cycle of fam So the next time
Speaker 47: someone comes and tells me that God told them to
Speaker 47: tell me dot, I'm calling.
Speaker 6: It crut So he's right though, all of these evangelicals
Speaker 6: that are in delusion saying God spoke to me and
Speaker 6: told me to tell you about Uh, the money is
Speaker 6: coming away. You just got to keep believing this is
Speaker 6: all delusion. Oh she's look at this empowered. She's gonna
Speaker 6: sing I can't play it because little ding the algorithm.
Speaker 6: But all right, so, uh, what is here? We go?
Speaker 6: What is deconstructing? Because I heard a bunch of people
Speaker 6: yapping about it, I have not heard anybody explain what
Speaker 6: it is. Oh dude, look at this dude, do looking
Speaker 6: rough bro lay Off, the lay Off, the Mad Dog
Speaker 6: twenty twenty and the Virginia slams bro a.
Speaker 5: Pretty aggressive stance against the idea of deconstruction. Like, for instance,
Speaker 5: apologist Sean McDowell recently just had Atleasta Childers.
Speaker 25: And Tim Barnett onto his podcast.
Speaker 5: Where unfortunately they just said the infamous line, if you've
Speaker 5: deconstructed your left your faith, you were a Christian to
Speaker 5: begin with. So there's a lot of misconceptions about the
Speaker 5: idea of deconstruction in general. So let's talk about that.
Speaker 1: What does it mean?
Speaker 6: You notice it basically the whole country is turning into
Speaker 6: a reddit. Soy person, I think that's the goal, is
Speaker 6: to like retify the entire country, to become complete chunk
Speaker 6: ball mind control MPC people that they can just regurgitate,
Speaker 6: have a big mob army of like borg hive mind
Speaker 6: people that just regurgitate whatever garbage TikTok spits up.
Speaker 1: Mean to deconstruct your faith?
Speaker 5: Well, here's what I mean when I talk about it,
Speaker 5: and I know that I'm not the only one who
Speaker 5: uses this definition. Deconstruction is merely just critically thinking about
Speaker 5: why you believe what you believe interrogating your faith, taking
Speaker 5: it apart layer by layer piece.
Speaker 6: Like, oh, well, we do that in presuppositionalism, so we
Speaker 6: would not have a problem with that peace.
Speaker 5: And checking to see if you find any veracity in
Speaker 5: the claims of the faith.
Speaker 1: And with that definition in mind.
Speaker 6: What do you want about this guy is iving a
Speaker 6: little struggles with his sexuality.
Speaker 24: I get asked a lot about deconstruction, especially when people
Speaker 24: find out that I deconstructed before deconstruction.
Speaker 6: Bro, Like you don't even know, Like I was deconstructing, uh,
Speaker 6: like getting tickets to their concerts before you, like even
Speaker 6: had diapers, dude, Like I was way before you.
Speaker 25: About deconstructing and reconstructing.
Speaker 6: Our Have you noticed that every deconstructing man is a
Speaker 6: soyman who looks just like the IPA beer titty bros
Speaker 6: that I make fun of. Interesting, I'm noticing a pattern here.
Speaker 6: Maybe evangelical i pas are making soymen into atheist men.
Speaker 6: Eight Here at Restore, Zach Lambert is a lead pastor,
Speaker 6: so he's there's a lot of toxicity in our lead
Speaker 6: pastor Zach. Zach is just really toxic. So we also
Speaker 6: have a mercury pastor and we have a I saw
Speaker 6: a lead pastor. I know it's lead pastor, but it
Speaker 6: made me think of lead pastor.
Speaker 25: Now, if you aren't familiar with those terms, I want
Speaker 25: you to think of your faith.
Speaker 6: Why is he preaching at the internet like he's in
Speaker 6: a congregation preaching a podium.
Speaker 25: Faith as a house made of bricks. Now, when I
Speaker 25: say your faith, I mean your beliefs, your spiritual practices,
Speaker 25: your church background, your religious community, et cetera. All of
Speaker 25: that wrapped into one is your faith and your faith.
Speaker 25: I want you to think of it like a house
Speaker 25: made of bricks.
Speaker 6: Look, he's got foundation was most like he's got built
Speaker 6: ipa titties as usual.
Speaker 25: You were young, whether through directly growing up in church
Speaker 25: or just being exposed to it through relationships and media.
Speaker 25: Those early spiritual beliefs and practices were the first bricks
Speaker 25: put in place, and they serve as a foundation for
Speaker 25: your house.
Speaker 6: These are your titty bricks, and they will serve as
Speaker 6: the foundation of your h I was about to what
Speaker 6: do you call it when you when you like a
Speaker 6: home brewery. I was trying to think of a home brewery.
Speaker 6: I messed up one joke, that's right, Oh, crap, That's
Speaker 6: what I was looking for. Okay, So basically I'm questioning,
Speaker 6: it's just questioning my belief system. Why are they all
Speaker 6: repeating these terms anyway? Okay, I don't, I can't. Here
Speaker 6: we go. This is the last dude here.
Speaker 25: Not Christians, and they will not be safe, the same
Speaker 25: as true for the honors the Orthodox Sending.
Speaker 51: Two Christians tell each other that they're not real Christians
Speaker 51: is absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 6: Why is that funny?
Speaker 26: First of all, it's kind of.
Speaker 51: Nice them to get a taste of their own medicine,
Speaker 51: considering they know truth. But it's also like listening to
Speaker 51: sci fi fans argue over what is canon and what isn't.
Speaker 26: But most of all, it is.
Speaker 6: How completely there's nothing inherently contradictory about people in any
Speaker 6: system saying that these people over here are not true
Speaker 6: adherence to the system. Why is that hilarious or absurd?
Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's really Any group will have that
Speaker 6: has some common set of beliefs will by necessity like
Speaker 6: exclude people who are not real adherence to that system.
Speaker 6: So there's nothing inherently contradictory about one group saying the
Speaker 6: other groups are heretic.
Speaker 26: Unclear and inconsistent. The Bible's message.
Speaker 6: Is the Bible? Why did she put it in the Bible?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 20: Like?
Speaker 6: Why is their scare quotes around the Bible? Like like
Speaker 6: there's like we don't exactly know what that is. It's
Speaker 6: just the Bible this like what is even that? What
Speaker 6: the hell is even that?
Speaker 26: What it says so much?
Speaker 25: So?
Speaker 6: Does she not know that? That's a fallacy. The fact
Speaker 6: that people disagree with an interpretation has nothing to do
Speaker 6: with whether the book's true or false.
Speaker 26: They condemn each other to help, and they're the ones
Speaker 26: who believe.
Speaker 2: In the same God.
Speaker 6: Supposedly, well, why is it wrong to do that?
Speaker 18: Well?
Speaker 26: But the reason I'm an atheist is because I don't
Speaker 26: have correct understand.
Speaker 6: You are an atheist because you are who she looks
Speaker 6: just like what's her face?
Speaker 27: You're a.
Speaker 6: Be great, be great? An half away? That's why. That's
Speaker 6: that's Anne half a mile away.
Speaker 31: Why do people leave their faith?
Speaker 6: If you were deconstructing, you might have heard we heard
Speaker 6: her a minute ago. It's all the same. If the
Speaker 6: press are preserving the same God, does she talking with
Speaker 6: her too? Brush, don't be point your twoth broch of me.
Speaker 6: That's an act of aggress's all microaggression. Point your tooth
Speaker 6: broch of me, girl, I'm dom do, I'm over here,
Speaker 6: dodging that tooth brush right here. I get this question
Speaker 6: every one. Oh of course, this woman, this wine mom
Speaker 6: over here, Wonda dam Nirvana shirt I dig instracting my acresianity.
Speaker 15: And now I listen to peril Jam and Nirvana like
Speaker 15: it's nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 6: What's the nineties again?
Speaker 31: Like I said, Wow, So I'm just going to talk
Speaker 31: about it from my point of view.
Speaker 46: So basically, for me in the last couple of years,
Speaker 46: basically B'SO therapy and time spet.
Speaker 6: It's all me me, me, me me therapy, therapy, my
Speaker 6: subjective stuff. It's nothing to do with object objective truth
Speaker 6: or false stood. You know, I came face to.
Speaker 26: Face with some of the traumas they experienced trauma in
Speaker 26: the church. Before I say anything else, I want to
Speaker 26: put a disclaimer out.
Speaker 6: That this is not my traumatize.
Speaker 46: My parents are incredible, And I also want to say
Speaker 46: that I know that, And why is it not your
Speaker 46: parents fault?
Speaker 6: If you if you were traumatized by what they're subjecting
Speaker 6: you to, is it wouldn't it be partially their fault.
Speaker 46: Church is run by imperfect people. I'm fully aware of that.
Speaker 46: I have a lifetime of those tiny little church hearts.
Speaker 46: Those aren't the ones that I'm deconstructing from.
Speaker 45: Tiny little church a bunch of people, tiny little church hurts.
Speaker 45: It's my own little village of tiny little church hurt people.
Speaker 45: They live inside my feeties. Chenny, tiny chy people, tiny
Speaker 45: church hurts. What are the big church hurts? Like Roman
Speaker 45: Catholic peedo abuse? Is that like the big church? What's
Speaker 45: a tiny church hurt? Fighting over the castle roll?
Speaker 6: What's the tiny church? Or No, I don't want to
Speaker 6: know what a tiny church heurt is? Or does she
Speaker 6: mean like literally like she has a tiny church, Like
Speaker 6: there's a little bitty like three foot model of a
Speaker 6: church and she stubbed her toe on. What's a tiny
Speaker 6: church heart?
Speaker 46: But through digging up some of my own trauma and.
Speaker 6: Seeing the what do you notice again to get my chum,
Speaker 6: everybody in all of this is repeating all the same phraseology,
Speaker 6: and there's a pattern to this. Everyone is basically saying, Okay,
Speaker 6: I watched a bunch of TikTok YouTube videos. I'm going
Speaker 6: to deconstruct figure out the traumas and places that I
Speaker 6: was hurt, say that I was manipulated and hurt by whatever.
Speaker 6: I mean, maybe they were in some cases, but and
Speaker 6: then I invent this narrative that I was a victim
Speaker 6: and Christianity is basically oppressing everyone. I mean, yeah, if
Speaker 6: you were at some weirdo evangelical sector cult, it probably
Speaker 6: was oppressing people. I totally agree. Okay, I can't take
Speaker 6: any more of this. This is too like just low
Speaker 6: tier stuff. King of hellas three dollars. Will there be
Speaker 6: a breakdown of society and chaos socially in order to
Speaker 6: establish a world or I think that it's almost inevitable
Speaker 6: and inescapable. I don't really see how well without large
Speaker 6: scale shocks to the system, control chaos, engineer chaos. What
Speaker 6: was the arc of crisis? The Brazinski model? It seems
Speaker 6: like that's almost always necessary because there's never a smooth
Speaker 6: transition into oh hey, everyone just get the UBI. It
Speaker 6: seems like the system benefits and capitalizes always on a crisis.
Speaker 6: So if you read most of the global elite texts,
Speaker 6: how do they always begin their books? We are in
Speaker 6: a crisis? Crisis crisis crisis. Ours is a time of crisis,
Speaker 6: all the crises. They always hype this up, and usually
Speaker 6: their crises are manufactured or exaggerated, or mayven not existent.
Speaker 6: Climate change is going to destroy the world, you know,
Speaker 6: this kind of stuff. Therefore we must enact total socialism.
Speaker 6: Jake Burnet's five dollars. What is your response to skittles
Speaker 6: when they are born this way? I say, girlfriend, you
Speaker 6: just better crank up that lady, God got tune, because
Speaker 6: I'm saying it with you, girl, That's what I say.
Speaker 6: Is there any research on this well, saying that you're
Speaker 6: born with something like that? First of all, there's no
Speaker 6: way to prove that. So it's an assertion. If you
Speaker 6: go back to people like Kinsey. A lot of the
Speaker 6: claims of Alfred Kinsey are the basis for the turns
Speaker 6: out everyone is skittles. Did you know Alphred Kinsey did
Speaker 6: a bunch of studies that were violations of human rights,
Speaker 6: by the way, within this I mean, even if you
Speaker 6: don't believe in human rights, within the system, what they
Speaker 6: say is human rights. Alfred Kinsey violated all that with
Speaker 6: his disgusting stuff that he did and his publications. Because
Speaker 6: the basis to say, well, then you know, everybody's faking gray. Literally,
Speaker 6: everyone is faking gray on a spectrum, but only some
Speaker 6: of us are like, you're like four percent fake and gray,
Speaker 6: people like RuPaul eighty percent faking gray, ninety percent taking gray.
Speaker 6: But everyone is fake and gray. We're all on a spectrum.
Speaker 6: So my assumption, my guess, would be that it all
Speaker 6: goes back to Alfred Kinsey's fraudulent studies and his degeneracy.
Speaker 6: But Alfred Kinsey has been exposed as a front. Remember
Speaker 6: John Money. Who's John Money? John Mayer body is one man.
Speaker 15: I want too run through the awesome high school.
Speaker 6: Shout out to the well. The only reason I said
Speaker 6: RuPaul might not be one hundred percent is because I
Speaker 6: think I don't know and I don't care to check.
Speaker 6: But as far as I know, there's still the downstairs plumbing,
Speaker 6: so he's not fully something else? Is that correct?
Speaker 18: I don't know.
Speaker 6: All you roup Paul fans in the chat can correct
Speaker 6: me on that. Work Try to the left, work, turn
Speaker 6: to the right, Come a girl, give us a twirl,
Speaker 6: all y'all Paul fans be.
Speaker 15: Like, yeah, he's speaking my language now, m M.
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, y'all over here bitching and not knowing Otis songs. Look,
Speaker 6: Oasi is basically the end of rock and roll. I mean,
Speaker 6: there's no more rock bands. Oasis was the last of
Speaker 6: great bands. I mean, I hate to tell it to you.
Speaker 6: That's gonna be controversial. Everybody's going to bitch about it.
Speaker 6: But there's no more rock and roll bands. That's it.
Speaker 6: They're done, that's there's no more. In fact, you think
Speaker 6: I'm joking. The one of these big producers, what was
Speaker 6: his name, Rick Biato. I forget who he is. I've
Speaker 6: heard his name. I forget who's the producer for. I
Speaker 6: just watched his video because it popped randomly yesterday, and
Speaker 6: he said, have you noticed there's no more bands anymore? Now?
Speaker 6: Obviously I don't mean literally there's no bands.
Speaker 52: Here.
Speaker 6: This guy so he's some sort of like like classic
Speaker 6: you know, music producer guy. I don't remember who was
Speaker 6: a producer for. But he said, have you noticed that
Speaker 6: there's no more bands? And that's because when you go
Speaker 6: on the charts. He was talking about something like the
Speaker 6: top few hundred bands or artists on the charts, they're
Speaker 6: all single solo artists because that's how the system works.
Speaker 6: The model works better to just promote individuals and it's
Speaker 6: not really feasible to have bands anymore. And he pointed
Speaker 6: out something like there's only three bands in the top
Speaker 6: whatever of the charts nowadays, and I don't know, I'd
Speaker 6: never heard of any of the three that he listed,
Speaker 6: But so this is an interesting development for where music
Speaker 6: has gone. So music has gone into this direction of
Speaker 6: I'm not saying there's no bands, he's saying that the
Speaker 6: charts are dominated by single solo artists. That the system
Speaker 6: and the record industry whatever's left of that, that's really
Speaker 6: what they promote now. So it was an interesting video.
Speaker 6: I obviously I don't really keep up with the music
Speaker 6: industry because it seemed like music, and it was pretty
Speaker 6: it was pretty much dead like ten fifteen years ago, right,
Speaker 6: Wasn't it pretty much like going away because pretty much
Speaker 6: all of the musicians were figuring out, Okay, I gotta
Speaker 6: have my own website and people just are gonna download
Speaker 6: this stuff. So the only way to make money is
Speaker 6: to tour, like the bands figured that out like fifteen
Speaker 6: years ago.
Speaker 18: Right.
Speaker 6: But yeah, well that's what he says. The pop stars
Speaker 6: have like this army of people that the production and
Speaker 6: record companies are providing to make them into these products.
Speaker 6: And I think this is really signaling the end of
Speaker 6: what we have thought of as like rock and roll
Speaker 6: bands and all that Isn't that weird? It's weird to think.
Speaker 6: Imagine going back to the nineties and your nineties self
Speaker 6: asking you being like, what's the future, Like, you know,
Speaker 6: who are the musicians?
Speaker 25: Like?
Speaker 6: It would blow their mind if you started trying to
Speaker 6: explain to them what it's like now in the future,
Speaker 6: because it sounds like it would be ideal. Wit, everybody
Speaker 6: can have their own website and they can do their
Speaker 6: own stuff. That sounds ideal. Yeah, but it's not really ideal.
Speaker 25: Now.
Speaker 6: I understand bands have drama, but bands have drama back
Speaker 6: when all of the top one hundred charting artists were
Speaker 6: mostly bands. Yeah, I know, tame and But he's talking
Speaker 6: about today's charts. Tam and Paula is not on the
Speaker 6: top fifty right now or whatever, not saying there's no bands.
Speaker 6: He's saying that bands are like fading away because record
Speaker 6: companies would rather have this corporate team behind a single
Speaker 6: Billie Eilish or Taylor Swift. That's what he's saying. Ooh,
Speaker 6: interesting points since their hypocrite is dead internet theory applicable
Speaker 6: to all of the other cultural institutions. Mmmm hmm interesting, Oh,
Speaker 6: Tam and Paula is one guy I thought he I
Speaker 6: thought he had a band. I didn't even know that.
Speaker 6: I mean, I have the albums. I just assumed that
Speaker 6: he had like backup or whatever. But you know what
Speaker 6: Ed Cheran is this Ed Seron doesn't have a band.
Speaker 6: I don't care for Ed Scheron, but Jamie really likes
Speaker 6: Ed Shearon. I want to go. Wanted to go to
Speaker 6: the concerts, so I bought her tickets a few months ago.
Speaker 6: And what was interesting was that it's just him and
Speaker 6: his like loop machine, right, so all the songs are him.
Speaker 6: He did have like a couple of artists join him
Speaker 6: for a collab, but it wasn't a backup band. So
Speaker 6: even Ed Sheeran is like just one dude. Go check
Speaker 6: out my video I did on dead Internet theory. It's
Speaker 6: a kind of an extreme sort of I think I
Speaker 6: see dead internet theory as more of a well, would
Speaker 6: you say, more of a thought experiment, But there's some
Speaker 6: truth to it, because the idea is it seemed like
Speaker 6: around twenty fifteen sixteen, the internet seemed to really change.
Speaker 6: Part of that, of course, was that Google and the
Speaker 6: big tech companies the algorithm changed because of the drama
Speaker 6: around the twenty sixteen election, right, Russia Gate and all that.
Speaker 6: But the theory of internet theory goes further and says,
Speaker 6: what if the Internet was largely flooded with AI and
Speaker 6: bots at that time and that also contributing to the
Speaker 6: large scale change in the way we feel and interact
Speaker 6: with the Internet. Yeah, there could be something to that.
Speaker 6: I mean, I definitely think. For example, I do a
Speaker 6: lot of research obviously, and so you know before I'd
Speaker 6: say from twenty from twenty sixteen to now, Google as
Speaker 6: a search engine basically doesn't work because I would say
Speaker 6: at least sixty to seventy percent of what you could
Speaker 6: pull up back then you can't even find it anymore.
Speaker 6: It's pretty wild. Do you remember AOL's AOL and CDs? Absolutely? Man,
Speaker 6: did y'all watch my livestream? I did on like the nineties.
Speaker 6: That was a fun livestream. So bands are disappearing? And
Speaker 6: how has that internet theory perhaps affected the music genre? Well?
Speaker 6: What about AI? Like how many tracks are AI tracks?
Speaker 6: For example? As you guys remember when I sang my wonderful,
Speaker 6: beautiful cringe core hit, the Matt Dillahunty song Matt Dila
Speaker 6: Monkey Scooter produced this AI version in like no time
Speaker 6: that was way more catchy than my original Matt Dila
Speaker 6: Monkey song, and it sounded like a literal black choir
Speaker 6: and something. Well, wait a minute, if the public AI
Speaker 6: program can do this, maybe they've been doing AI music
Speaker 6: for freaking who knows how long. And don't think that
Speaker 6: the record companies wouldn't scam you by basically just like
Speaker 6: imagine if you're I don't know, Miley Cyrus and the
Speaker 6: record company says, we click the button a few times
Speaker 6: and like the AI spit out twenty new Amiley Cyrus songs.
Speaker 6: You gotta think that's happening, right, Let's see check this out.
Speaker 6: So this is AI. What's the program called Suno or
Speaker 6: something like that. I mean, this sounds like a black
Speaker 6: choir from the seventies or earth Wind and Fire or
Speaker 6: something producing some kind of big R and B soulful ballad.
Speaker 6: It doesn't sound I mean, it kind of sounds AI.
Speaker 6: But I'm sure that if you're a zillionaire, you have
Speaker 6: access to a better AI than this.
Speaker 15: Right until the monkeys.
Speaker 2: You find up in that tree? What you doing up there?
Speaker 2: Why you scarce? Why you run it from every de bad?
Speaker 2: You ran from the true and from me? Man till
Speaker 2: the monkeys like the semail monkeys.
Speaker 52: With tumbanantas between the trees hanging down upside down. That's
Speaker 52: a smile, the SMI man telling monkey, what you doing
Speaker 52: to me?
Speaker 1: Till until a monkey.
Speaker 9: The mall.
Speaker 6: You get the point. So if this public goofy Ai
Speaker 6: can spit out something that good, you know that a zillionaire,
Speaker 6: billionaire record company with access to something fancier could spit
Speaker 6: out something better. You know what I mean? Anyway, so
Speaker 6: I'm starting to think too. I mean, I don't believe
Speaker 6: Mendela effect. I think it's Mendel effect is stupid. But
Speaker 6: what if they're trying to My theory is, what if
Speaker 6: they're trying to like erase aspects of culture, maybe as
Speaker 6: an experiment, or maybe they're actually trying to do it.
Speaker 6: I mean, we all saw what the search engines a
Speaker 6: few weeks ago, a few months ago, remember that when
Speaker 6: all of the people in history were suddenly brothers and sisters.
Speaker 6: Now no offense to my brothers and sisters, but listen, y'all,
Speaker 6: are not all of the people in history? Okay? And
Speaker 6: remember this Google and other this sort of scandal while back,
Speaker 6: and then they said, oh, this is a mistake. But
Speaker 6: so basically AI spat out African and Black versions of
Speaker 6: every person in history by mistake. So I'm thinking, okay,
Speaker 6: well so wait a minute. So there we see a
Speaker 6: window into what could be an example or a means
Speaker 6: by which you could try to erase history. And if
Speaker 6: you think about Maoism, remember they tried to do this
Speaker 6: with the Culture Revolution that Mao ran and Mao like
Speaker 6: energized and used the youth to try to erase history. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 6: it was intentional. Yeah, So if mal was an example
Speaker 6: of that erasing of history and rewriting it, all of
Speaker 6: these crazy cult people in this woke you know, CRT
Speaker 6: d I, S DG cult like they're going to do
Speaker 6: the same stuff, right that They're willing to do whatever
Speaker 6: to erase history. So now you know, so what if
Speaker 6: they're experimenting with erasing things to see if they can
Speaker 6: maybe get away with it, erasing certain things like could
Speaker 6: that be elements of what people think is Mandela effect?
Speaker 6: I think most Mandela effect nonsense is just people misremembering events.
Speaker 6: Kirk Cobain was black. I always thought. I mean, I
Speaker 6: knew that a long time ago.
Speaker 18: Right.
Speaker 6: I got a painting of Kurt Cobain and the paint
Speaker 6: has darkened. That's what you people think. No, No, the
Speaker 6: paint didn't darken. Kirk Cobain was always a brother. That's
Speaker 6: what you Gu's what you got wrong. Anyway, what if?
Speaker 6: What if there's going to be an attempt to create
Speaker 6: totally fictional history. You see what I'm saying, And I
Speaker 6: think that's very plausible. That's why I think it's more
Speaker 6: important to have physical copies of stuff. That's why we
Speaker 6: got so many books. I got two different libraries.
Speaker 44: Why.
Speaker 6: Well, because a lot of this stuff they're going to
Speaker 6: try to get rid of it. I mean, all these
Speaker 6: sci fi dystopian stories like Fahrenheit four fifty one, they're
Speaker 6: not just dystopian stories. These are like what they're going
Speaker 6: to do. And today, when I was looking at my
Speaker 6: stupid music collection on Apple, I hate using Apple's music collection.
Speaker 6: But because cars don't have CDs anymore, you have to
Speaker 6: if you want to listen to music in your car,
Speaker 6: you have to have it all on the stupid phone.
Speaker 6: So I'm looking on here and I was thinking about, say,
Speaker 6: old Oasis CDs that I had, and I'm almost certain
Speaker 6: that I had a two disc live track familiar to
Speaker 6: millions that had a song on it. And when you
Speaker 6: go and look, now, I could be misremembering. This could
Speaker 6: be a actual case of misremembering something. But when you
Speaker 6: look on the online versions of albums, and this isn't
Speaker 6: just a case, and this is random Oasis example that
Speaker 6: I've noticed a lot of different online Apple versions of
Speaker 6: these downloads, I don't think these are all the same.
Speaker 6: I heard a song the other day and I'm like,
Speaker 6: that's not the song from the nineties. That's some weird version,
Speaker 6: but it was presented as if that was the normative
Speaker 6: version of that song. I forget which example this was.
Speaker 6: This is a different example, and I wonder how many
Speaker 6: cases of things being changed like this.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 6: Somebody pulled up a Disney example the other day where
Speaker 6: I've never watched Lelo and Stitch, but apparently Disney has
Speaker 6: gone back and changed and they showed the two different versions,
Speaker 6: like they've actually changed the Lelo and Stitch to make
Speaker 6: her not be jumping into a dryer. And my suspicion
Speaker 6: is that people complained because a child could see that
Speaker 6: jumping a dryer and get stuck in there. But what
Speaker 6: they changed it to is like an look like an oven,
Speaker 6: or like a that's even worse, right, or like something
Speaker 6: to do with like do Why are you in here
Speaker 6: asking about my personal life? Yes, I'm married, and you're
Speaker 6: not here to promote other people's discourse. Get out of
Speaker 6: here anyway? Who's cooking me in the chat? What are
Speaker 6: you talking about?
Speaker 25: Well?
Speaker 6: I understand the dryer thing makes sense, because it makes
Speaker 6: sense to not have that in the show. But what
Speaker 6: I'm saying is that, well, that's one example in that case,
Speaker 6: But what about what do you mean you can't hit
Speaker 6: donate on stream labs. You can donate one hundred dollars.
Speaker 6: I welcome it, please do I mean we've had people
Speaker 6: donate five hundred.
Speaker 1: You can do it.
Speaker 6: You can do a hundred. Does anybody have any other
Speaker 6: examples of things where books were changed, albums and CDs
Speaker 6: were changed, movies were changed. Because I think they're gonna
Speaker 6: start doing this, and they've already said they're going to
Speaker 6: start doing this. Remember they said we got to change
Speaker 6: and ban nineteen eighty four Tolkien, we got a ban
Speaker 6: Ian fleming books. Who's cooking? I don't understand what's who's
Speaker 6: cooking in the chat? Michael Heiser was a subscriber to
Speaker 6: my website before he passed away, so people always ask
Speaker 6: about Michael Heiser. But no, I'm not going to Speaker's corner.
Speaker 6: They've already I know, they've already been changing stuff. That's
Speaker 6: what I'm talking about. Oh, they banned episodes of It's
Speaker 6: Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Interesting. They changed the ending of
Speaker 6: the Six Star Wars to include Anakin. Interesting. They added
Speaker 6: a disclaimer to Rush Hour. Wow. Well, the disclaimers is
Speaker 6: just the first stage before the banning. You see that?
Speaker 6: I mean, did you notice that when Oasis said they
Speaker 6: were getting back together, they were already the woke was
Speaker 6: already going after Oasis over Noel playing with a guitar
Speaker 6: that has the British flag. That's crazy. And Noel made
Speaker 6: a joke about how stupid modern books work with all
Speaker 6: their gay titles. So they like, this is getting crazy, man,
Speaker 6: this is wild. They memory hold all the liberal comedians
Speaker 6: doing ooh interesting. Yeah, so if you do that kind
Speaker 6: of make up routine, the memory hold it. Yeah, did
Speaker 6: you know there is a memory hold Don Henley song
Speaker 6: funny thing. Alex will actually play this song every now
Speaker 6: and then.
Speaker 15: It was an inside job for the well connected.
Speaker 6: That is a Don Henley song that you cannot find
Speaker 6: except on I found it on Bitshoot of all places.
Speaker 6: Now if you go look up. I mean I could
Speaker 6: be wrong. Maybe I just wasn't. Maybe it was Don
Speaker 6: Henley with some other band or something. But you cannot
Speaker 6: find the song except on like platforms like that. Let
Speaker 6: me show you what I'm talking about, because Don Henley
Speaker 6: wrote the song right after the Big Nine about it
Speaker 6: being an inside thing. Right, okay, here's oh here it's
Speaker 6: I could not find this on YouTube. Okay, right, Interesting,
Speaker 6: So I looked for the song a year ago and
Speaker 6: you couldn't find it. It's interesting that it got put
Speaker 6: up here one year ago. Oh wait a minute, when
Speaker 6: was this song written? Two thousand?
Speaker 28: What?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 6: Maybe you could say Don Hinley wrote this song and
Speaker 6: it was just coincidence. I'm surprised that. See, even the
Speaker 6: people in the chat are saying Don Henley knew about this.
Speaker 6: John Hinley told us twenty four years ago what was
Speaker 6: happening at the Big Nine. Never forget so the chat's
Speaker 6: all like, yeah, bro, we know this is talking about
Speaker 6: Big nine event. While you were sleeping, they came and
Speaker 6: took it away. The lanes and the metal is a
Speaker 6: place where you used to play. It wasn't inside job
Speaker 6: by the well connected. Your little protest was summarily rejected.
Speaker 6: It wasn't inside job like it always is. Chalk it
Speaker 6: up to business as usual. While we were dreaming, this
Speaker 6: little island disappeared. They took away the right to your
Speaker 6: own ideas. It wasn't inside job. Favors collected, your trusted servants,
Speaker 6: your politicians left you unpredicted. It was an inside job.
Speaker 6: You think you're smart business as usual. You don't have
Speaker 6: an f and clue. But those men up in the towers,
Speaker 6: what they're doing to me and you? This is written
Speaker 6: in two thousand. Wow. Anyway, this was not on YouTube
Speaker 6: for a long time. You could only find on bitch.
Speaker 6: I'm surprised they put it back on you too. By
Speaker 6: the way, I'm not saying that makes Don Henley some
Speaker 6: kind of hero. I don't. I don't have any. I
Speaker 6: mean the Eagles are listed as like a Laurel Canyon
Speaker 6: type of band, and most of these boomer rock and
Speaker 6: roll and people are like the worst, dude, They're like
Speaker 6: total garbage people. I'm not saying Don Henley is I
Speaker 6: don't know. I haven't followed Don Henley. I don't keep
Speaker 6: up with the boomer bands. But like if you go
Speaker 6: on Twitter and you look up like Pink Floyd members profiles,
Speaker 6: it's all the latest like whatever, like Ukraine flag transflag,
Speaker 6: like that's that's all they do is put up the
Speaker 6: worst shit imaginable.
Speaker 15: Right, it was an inside job. Mother Will connected.
Speaker 6: Zalmox is five dollars. How did third mcabies get into
Speaker 6: the cannon? To my knowledge, there's no council that ratifies it.
Speaker 6: I mean it's in the canon because it's I mean,
Speaker 6: I just assumed it's part of the Maccabean text that
Speaker 6: Trollo affirms. So Trelo affirms what the the African Canon's affirms, right,
Speaker 6: But actually as to why the Roman Catholic canon doesn't
Speaker 6: have it and the Orthodox canon does, I'm not actually
Speaker 6: sure why. It probably goes back to the fact that
Speaker 6: the Orthodox canon is what Trollo accepts from the African Synods,
Speaker 6: and the Roman Catholic Canon is from the Roman Council
Speaker 6: of Pope Damasis and what Augustine listed. So that's probably
Speaker 6: the origin of the disagreement. But why the Catholics didn't
Speaker 6: include it, I don't actually know. Zelmax is five dollars.
Speaker 6: One more question. Do you have any recommended reading to
Speaker 6: get up to day on the history of Islam. I mean,
Speaker 6: there's a lot you could read about Islam, there's not
Speaker 6: really any I don't know of an easy book to
Speaker 6: start reading. I would say, start watching Sam's debates, Sam's
Speaker 6: channel on all the islam stuff. Go watch the Doctor
Speaker 6: khalil uh talk that I shared. The Doctor Khalil talk
Speaker 6: has him beginning to go through the schools. So the
Speaker 6: first thing you're going gonna want to learn about Islam
Speaker 6: is the first early few centuries, the disputes between the Mutazila,
Speaker 6: the Muta Kalaimam, the what's called the Authori or the Salafi.
Speaker 6: Those are the early Area Area era disputes. You're gonna
Speaker 6: want to listen to doctor Khalil's talk to understand the
Speaker 6: basic schools. So you want to understand the difference between
Speaker 6: the Authari, the Maturidi, the Shari, and then the Shia,
Speaker 6: who are the neoplatonic faction of Iran. So so the
Speaker 6: first three school those are schools within Sunni Islam. Shea
Speaker 6: are very different. They descend from a different line of Islam.
Speaker 6: So you're gonna want to learn all that stuff. So anyway,
Speaker 6: there's not an easy I don't know about A. I'm
Speaker 6: sure there is something comparable to Philip Schaft's history of
Speaker 6: the church, but I don't know what that would be.
Speaker 6: Go ask doctor Khalil. He would know better than me,
Speaker 6: since you're Hippi or three dollars or Sam Shuman. Even
Speaker 6: a couple of years ago, there was a writer strike
Speaker 6: in Hollywood. Yeah, remember that were I was we were
Speaker 6: gonna do a trying to do that first live stream
Speaker 6: with Jimmy Kennedy around that time. One of the concerns
Speaker 6: with the writers was that AI was going to regurgitate stuff.
Speaker 6: Oh exactly, yeah, exactly. This makes you wonder if modern
Speaker 6: movies aren't actually using AI and Marvel the Universe or
Speaker 6: whatever to script mass produced movies. Oh, I bet they are.
Speaker 6: I bet they are. Yeah exactly. I forgot about that
Speaker 6: writer's strike over AI. That's a great point. AUGUSTA ten
Speaker 6: dollars small token appreciation. I've learned everything For everything, I've
Speaker 6: learned about my faith here from this channel. Thank you, God,
Speaker 6: bless you and Jamie happy piece of exaltation.
Speaker 35: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Well, we're on the old calendar, but I appreciate that.
Speaker 6: Thank you for the job. Five dollars. Do you think
Speaker 6: blad Under twenty forty four seen where K has to
Speaker 6: get permission to go into the Oh I forgot about this.
Speaker 6: He has to get permission to go into the old
Speaker 6: world's Internet archive.
Speaker 27: Ah.
Speaker 6: Interesting, yeah, I think that. You know, Alex a long
Speaker 6: time ago was saying that eventually this present Internet will
Speaker 6: be scrapped, and it used to be called Internet too.
Speaker 6: I don't know why they quit using that language of terminology.
Speaker 6: Maybe the people in the cryptosphere that talk about Web three,
Speaker 6: maybe that's what they're referring to the latest instantiation of
Speaker 6: what they used to call Internet two. Back this was
Speaker 6: like twenty years ago. They were calling the future Internet
Speaker 6: will be called Internet two and the present Internet will
Speaker 6: be scrapped. It won't exist anymore. But like you said,
Speaker 6: it'd be like some weird archives somewhere that you know,
Speaker 6: only the global elite had access to. I think that's so. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's something to that, and I totally forgot about this
Speaker 6: section in Blade Runner twenty forty nine. That's fascinating. I
Speaker 6: have to go back and watch that. Since Irrea gret
Speaker 6: three dollars. There's an actress named Deborah Wilson whose likeness
Speaker 6: was scanned into many modern video games. Well, this was
Speaker 6: in the movie The Congress by with Robin Wright. So
Speaker 6: we actually did some it's almost ten years ago that
Speaker 6: we were doing podcasts. I think we did a boiler room.
Speaker 6: We did a boiler room where we talked about The
Speaker 6: Congress by Robin Wright. And if you've never seen this movie,
Speaker 6: everybody should go watch this because it was an overlooked
Speaker 6: dystopian film that pretty much predictable wreck. Yeah, so we're
Speaker 6: exactly ten years ago and I was doing you know what,
Speaker 6: I got to put this in the next the new
Speaker 6: estaty Hollywood. This has got to go in there because
Speaker 6: this was a really important, predictive film. So basically, i'll
Speaker 6: tell you the premise. I won't spoil it for you,
Speaker 6: but the actress Robin Wright from The Princess Bride, she
Speaker 6: goes to Harvey Kayitel, who's like a studio guy or whatever,
Speaker 6: and she says, as the actress, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: have to retire. I can't really do movies. I've got
Speaker 6: a son who's got, you know, to be tended to.
Speaker 6: He's got medical issues. And Harvey kytell says, well, let
Speaker 6: the studio buy your image and likeness. And she's like,
Speaker 6: what do you mean, how could that be? He says, well,
Speaker 6: we've got this new technology where we will scan your
Speaker 6: whole body, like all of the angles of your body,
Speaker 6: and you're all of your facial expressions, the whole range
Speaker 6: of emotions. Here's this big thing. She goes and stands
Speaker 6: in r here. So this is all cameras, right, and
Speaker 6: so they're they're creating this digital deep fake version of her. Okay,
Speaker 6: and the movie, as he says, this is the near future, right,
Speaker 6: they changed her future. So here she is being scanned in.
Speaker 6: She doesn't really understand what this is all about, but
Speaker 6: she needed the money and she wasn't going to be
Speaker 6: acting anymore. So the studio was telling her and everyone
Speaker 6: that they would be doing this, and it flashes forward
Speaker 6: to here's metaverse. Now they don't call it this, but
Speaker 6: so basically it's some undefined near future everyone lives in
Speaker 6: the We'll call it the metaverse. The virch whatever virtual world.
Speaker 6: So the Internet becomes this, it becomes this like three
Speaker 6: dimensional space where you like walk around as whatever avatar
Speaker 6: you want to be. So here's Robin Wright interacting with
Speaker 6: the Tom Cruise avatar in the year twenty thirty or something, right,
Speaker 6: And then the movie gets really crazy because it you
Speaker 6: got to see this part. Let's skip past it. It's
Speaker 6: very surreal. So basically in the real time period of
Speaker 6: the future, people are all walking around with the goggles
Speaker 6: on their face. Let's see, there's a picture of it.
Speaker 6: So everyone is basically living in the slums. It's like
Speaker 6: total you know, filthy dirt, poor everybody, right, And I
Speaker 6: don't know why this image doesn't have them where in
Speaker 6: the goggles. But in another scene, everyone's wearing the goggles
Speaker 6: to be on the Internet all the time. So there's
Speaker 6: basically a giant dystopian world. But everyone lives in internet
Speaker 6: dystopia world dressed like, you know, wearing you know, tattered
Speaker 6: rags basically. So I won't spoil the movie where it goes,
Speaker 6: but it actually goes way into the future, like it
Speaker 6: goes really wild. It's a crazy movie, but everyone should
Speaker 6: see it. It's a very predictive, relevant, relevant film for
Speaker 6: where we have gone. And again, we were doing boiler
Speaker 6: rooms on this ten years ago when it came out.
Speaker 6: I wonder if I could find that I should have
Speaker 6: put this in the first Turk cabb what I forgot
Speaker 6: to do it? Though, Let's see if it comes up. No, man,
Speaker 6: those old boiler rooms from like twenty fifteen. Man, they're like,
Speaker 6: that's like the future. Man. We were like spot on.
Speaker 6: Not everything. We probably we probably got maybe fifteen percent
Speaker 6: of stuff wrong, but I'd say eighty to eighty five
Speaker 6: percent of stuff. We were pretty spot on as to
Speaker 6: where we would be going in the future. I mean,
Speaker 6: we talked about stabbyes, we talked about the normalization of
Speaker 6: where we're at with human sexuality. We talked about tracking
Speaker 6: and Tracy, and we talked about I mean a lot
Speaker 6: of stuff. We were spot on AI and deep fake
Speaker 6: where that was gonna go anyway, My boy, let's see
Speaker 6: since their hypocrite, said Deborah Wilson's likeness has scanned into
Speaker 6: many video games. I'm not sure who that is, but
Speaker 6: it could always be a possibility that in the future
Speaker 6: they won't even need actors. Well, that's what the movie.
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Speaker 6: I try to eat a pretty strict as best I
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Speaker 6: telling you what to do, and then we go to that.
Speaker 6: We go to the gym on average three times a week,
Speaker 6: so Jamie and I are in a pretty regular GEM
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Speaker 6: not a big runner. If I am in the in
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Speaker 6: I'm talking about like two three mile walks on the
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Speaker 6: I don't eat candy. I don't need a lot of carbs.
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Speaker 6: I got to have a little bit of a ginger
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Speaker 6: Remember also, I will be live doing some cringe core
Speaker 6: live at top Lobster's event here. It's gonna be a
Speaker 6: lot of fun. October twenty five and six in Florida,
Speaker 6: We've got a stand up comedy. He's still figuring out
Speaker 6: who he's getting to come do this at live podcasts.
Speaker 6: There's gonna be some of the libertarian people there, some
Speaker 6: of the more people not libertarian there. There's gonna be comedians,
Speaker 6: stand up. I'm gonna be harassing people with karaoke and
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Speaker 6: we didn't really get into papal geopolitics or whatever. That's okay,
Speaker 6: I can change the title. We did end up talking about,
Speaker 6: well we kind of did. We didn't really talk about
Speaker 6: the end Times. I might change this title because we
Speaker 6: didn't really talk about the End Times. One World, Weird Order,
Speaker 6: that's a better title. That's more of what we talked about.
Speaker 6: We talked about pop culture, weird things in culture. I
Speaker 6: don't know. This is a fun stream. Oh we talked
Speaker 6: a lot about those deconstructing my faith videos or whatever.
Speaker 6: I forgot about that I've been. Who am I rated by?
Speaker 6: Would even have been rated? I don't understand what's happening.
Speaker 6: All right, Thank you guys, a lot of fun today.
Speaker 6: Appreciate the super chatters. Be sure and get the signed
Speaker 6: copies of the But we didn't really go through all
Speaker 6: the books, and I had a lot of books I
Speaker 6: was going to talk about, you know, classic famous books
Speaker 6: that we've been, that we've read.