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Speaker 1: Spitch.

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Speaker 2: What you gonna do? M m hmm, what.

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Speaker 3: Of And I'm married to a bunker who we got wedding.

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We got joined in the subway, shut over the road.

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Speaker 4: Visit and minerals they come to you, visit and miers

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they come from.

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Speaker 2: This yere too? What tut about?

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Speaker 5: For t.

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Speaker 2: I got married. I got married to my fult over

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who we got ready, we got joined in the subway.

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He shot first sight?

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Speaker 6: What should I do with the first sight?

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Speaker 2: Put it in my hand, throw it on the ground.

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Who knows just what would I do? Joined me in

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some way?

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Speaker 7: He shut the.

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Speaker 8: Human guinea pig stuff in Africa is so in? The

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human guinea pig stuff in Africa.

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Speaker 1: So in, so ins.

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Speaker 9: Is so insane.

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Speaker 2: Funker funk of funk fucker of.

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Speaker 3: I got married. I got married to a funkop. We

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got wedded, come joint in the subway.

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Speaker 2: He shot over. I am married. I'm married to a

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fun But do we get joined? Go white? As soon

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as subway? He shot or.

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Speaker 10: Specimens and biscuits and linerals they come to either to

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my whole life is spit?

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Speaker 1: What's gonna do?

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Speaker 2: M hm, er.

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Speaker 3: Off, I'm married to I don't Hooper We got wedding,

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but we got joined in the subway.

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Speaker 2: Shut over the road.

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Speaker 4: Visits and minerals they come to through you. Visites and

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minerals they come from.

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Speaker 1: This year too.

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Speaker 9: Fun for.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 3: I got married, I got married to my dont go hooper.

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Oh we got ready, Oh we got joined in the subway.

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Speaker 2: Shot first sight?

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Speaker 11: What should I do with the first sight? And put

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it in my head? Throw it on the ground. Who knows?

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Speaker 1: Just what can I do?

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Speaker 2: Joined the sway?

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Speaker 1: He shut the.

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Speaker 8: Human guinea pig stuff in Africa.

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Speaker 1: It's so insane.

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Speaker 8: The human guinea pig stuff in Africa.

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Speaker 12: So so so, it's so insane.

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Speaker 13: Bunker, Bunco, bo Unco, Funker.

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Speaker 3: I got married. I got married to a funco the

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week got wedded. Conjoined in the subway.

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Speaker 2: You shot O. I am married. I'm married to a fo.

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We get joined, go white just sing a subway. He shot.

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Speaker 10: Spitamins and biscuits and minerals. They come to me to

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my whole life is spit What to do?

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Speaker 2: M m hm rother, what of.

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Speaker 3: I'm married to a bunco. But we got wedding, We

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got joined in the subway.

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Speaker 2: He shot O.

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Speaker 4: Visits and minerals then come to you visites and minerals then.

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Speaker 2: Come from this too, you go.

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Speaker 3: Fuck buck. I got married, I got married to my

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fun but who we got waited? Who we get joined

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in the subway?

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Speaker 2: He shot?

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Speaker 6: What should I do with a first sight? Put it

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in my head, throw it on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Who knows just what I Louise ready joined me in

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the ways love.

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Speaker 8: The human guinea pig stuff in Africa. It's so insane,

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the human guinea pig stuff in Africa.

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Speaker 1: It's so insane. So it's so inside.

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Speaker 13: Bunker bunker, kunker, knocker up.

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Speaker 3: I got married, I got married to a funko who

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we got wedded, come joined in the subway, he shocked over.

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Speaker 2: I am married, I am married to my bunco, but

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we got joined. Go watch a sooner subway.

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Speaker 10: Shot vitamins and biscuits, and minerals they come to even

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to My whole life is spent on a to m hm.

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Speaker 2: M hmm.

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Speaker 5: What of.

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Speaker 2: I'm married to a bongo who we got wording, but

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we got joining in the subway.

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Speaker 4: Shot over the road. And minerals they come to to

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and minerals they come from this year to.

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Speaker 2: Fuck up both for don't. I got married. I got

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married to my thought huber who we got ready?

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Speaker 3: Oh, we get joined in the subway.

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Speaker 2: He shot.

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Speaker 11: At the sight. What should I do with the first sight?

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Put it in my head, throwing knock around?

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Speaker 2: Who knows? Just what would I do?

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Speaker 5: We got.

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Speaker 1: Joined some way shut over.

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Speaker 8: The human guinea pig stuff in Africa.

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Speaker 1: Is so insane.

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Speaker 8: The human guinea pig stuff in Africa.

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Speaker 1: Is so insane. It is so in It's so insane.

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Speaker 2: Ma, fuck of fucker of fuck of fuck up a

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bucle I got married. I got married to a funco.

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Speaker 14: I can give a hundred million reasons to build a barricade.

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Blame it on the changeing of the seasants, the thoughts

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that I convey.

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Speaker 2: Does it make it alright?

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Speaker 15: It doesn't make it alright? Sroll it over my soul,

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leave me here.

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Speaker 6: We are in weird times, strange times. Today's topic will

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not primarily be theologically focused. I think we've covered pretty

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extensively the theological elements. I want to step a little

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bit away from theology because I mean, we kind of

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went on a bender, so to speak. We want on

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a tear. The last few weeks pretty much doing multi

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hour debates every day, so I gotta take a break

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from that. I can't do that all the time. So

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close to Creed, how dare you thumb down? Actually you

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noticed the first part. The first part was good, and

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then I was intentionally being silly with the chorus. Does

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anyone even know what I'm what I'm singing? Of course

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you don't, all of you uncultured rubes in the chat, particularly.

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Speaker 16: Haggard.

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Speaker 6: We always know the Haggards when they show up, when

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they show up, the quality of the tear. We're dropping

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down a few, a few tears, a few fustrata. But

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things are weird, things are crazy. So we're gonna be

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talking about the geopolitical stuff. We're gonna be talking about

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all the weird signs of things happening. Only the real

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ones know what I'm singing. Torri Amos, geez techno war.

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You should know me better than that.

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Speaker 15: Jay was a conflict girl. Thought it was a goodution.

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J was a conflict girl.

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Speaker 6: That's my Tori Amos impression. That's actually pretty good. I

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do her. I used to have that one album. I mean,

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I had all kinds of shit in high school and interesting.

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She was like the poster child of like jen X

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atheist girl. Remember torri Amos.

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Speaker 15: Slowby was according Figger voterabus consolution.

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Speaker 6: Come on, now that's a good Tori Amos impression. Now

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I'm going back to like two thousand and three. I'm

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singing like you know two thousand and two three era.

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Speaker 17: Look around at all the plastic people live without a care.

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Try to sit with me around my table, but never

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bring a chair? Does it make it all right?

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Speaker 15: So roll it over my soul?

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Speaker 2: Leave me.

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Speaker 6: The gay bar electric six ouch. I mean you might think,

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how is this connected? Everything's connected?

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Speaker 18: Bro?

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Speaker 6: It's all connected? Dude. Did you even see that one

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chick that I shared on Instagram? Let me prove it

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to you. People were like everyone is doing these serious streams.

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I mean, how many times we got to make a

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video of the same shit? You know what I mean?

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Over and over and over? How is it all connected?

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Let me show you how everything is connected. First of all,

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let's look at we're gonna get into the geopolitics. I

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just I gotta be silly. I can't do all this

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stuff serious all the time. Drumm me crazy. We're gonna

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be looking at a lot of different things today, a

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lot of samples of cultural degradation, a lot of samples

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of silliness. We're gonna work through some of the classic books.

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This is a recap stream we got to where we are.

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What the overall plan of the elites is not from

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dumb conspiracy books, but from writings of the elite themselves.

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Before we do that, though, I want to show you

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what I'm talking about with how everything is going to

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make sense if you just understand everything's one bro.

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Speaker 5: Like this.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, then I took some kedemy and I entered the

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forest to puke, and the three people who care of me,

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they were literally hovered around my shop.

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Speaker 6: Today, you guys are going to enter into the deep

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rabbit hole trip with me. You're gonna take some mental keademy.

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I don't advocate taking drugs. You're gonna take some mental

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initiate initiatory drugs from me, which will be my singing,

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the knowledge bombs that are about to get dropped, the

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impressions you're about to get inducted into my stream of consciousness.

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And this lovely lady here is gonna explain how this occurs.

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Speaker 19: Folders watching me as I was getting sick, they were

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like the best friend that you need. They knew I

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was responsible to go in the bushes and go puked

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by myself and come back laid back, and I asked

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or projected. I literally entered the cores of the universe

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and I was floating. I could see the festival below me.

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I love colors, like colors I've never even seen before,

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fixed with each other. It was a sure best shit

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I've ever experienced in my time.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is like Fato level stuff, right Socrates

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and the Fato says, Bro, there's like colors we can't

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even know, dude, we ain't even seen these colors. This

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chick is talking like literal platonic dialogue stuff right here.

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Speaker 19: Take everybody's got everybody is God, That is my takeaway.

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For we are not human. We are beings from the

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light source from one We got mixed in a bunch

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of fucking chaos and now we have.

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Speaker 20: To deal with it.

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Speaker 6: Ah, Like everybody's got, we all just got like mixed

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up in the freaking chaos. Bro, welcome to that chaos.

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Welcome to the chaos which is cringe core, which is

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me randomly singing oasis lyrics. Did nobody know what song

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I was singing? Man? Y'all got to Oh man, y'all

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gotta catch up.

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Speaker 19: Bro.

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Speaker 6: The only salvation for the West at this stage is

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my conspiracy theories and the reunion of wastes. Now Oasis

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is back together. This has to be some apocalyptic sign

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of the end. And first of all, have you noticed

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that the nineties keep popping back up? I mean, I

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know that we've been saying this for a few years now,

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but everything that I remember from the nineties that sticks

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out seems to suddenly be back now. Part of that is,

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of course, because corporations and pop stars they know to

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capitalize on the nostalgia. Ten twenty years later, as their

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youthful audience become mommies and daddies and whatever and they

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grow up, it's time to capitalize on the establishment, I mean,

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on the on the nostalgia. I should say you came

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for Richard Simmons. Well, look, dude, you're gonna get everything

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and more today. I actually should have put Liam and

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Noel on the thumbnail. And I forgot to welcome to

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your initiation today is you're gonna be You're gonna be

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seeing the world through my eyes. Let me show you

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the world in my eyes. Eater dirt. Does anyone know

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that one? Now, this was a fake video, but I

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thought it was funny because it's accurate. Did you guys

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see this is not a sile.

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Speaker 21: Taylor Swift is not a Pio Taylor Swift, Taylor.

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Speaker 22: Taylor Swift is not.

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Speaker 1: Dangerous.

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Speaker 23: Taylor Swift is not a SYO.

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Speaker 24: Taylor Swift is not a Taylor Swift is not a Seli.

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Speaker 3: Swift is not a scion.

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Speaker 21: Taylor Swift is not a side Shift is not a Seli.

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Speaker 3: Swift is not a scion.

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Speaker 21: Taylor Swift is not a SiO.

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Speaker 6: I like that. That was genius. And yes, I know

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it's take audio, but it's actually true though, because after

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all that hubbub and all the people beginning to question, like,

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wait a minute, this this whole drama with Travis Kelcey

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and Taylor Swift, this seems to be kind of manufactured.

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was expressing their interest in using Taylor Swift for and propaganda.

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So no, come on, I'm not going to rehearse all

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this Vatican too Pope stuff because I don't I mean,

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how many times do we have to talk about that?

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So rather than talking about the theology. And what's interesting

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is that I used to see in comments with this

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papal stuff a lot of coping and a lot of

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attempting to explain it, and it would even maybe be

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half and half at times like maybe two, three, four

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or five years ago. Now, the comments generally speaking, especially

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if you go over here to my video, my video

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which is Oasis Cast No Shadow Live at Never Worth

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part I'm just kidding over here at this this one,

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which I just did yesterday last night, the majority of

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the comments we're going to almost six hundred now, are

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in agreement that, okay, we can't defend this anymore. You've

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got a few pope's planners here and there, they're in

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the total minority. Most of the quote pope planners are

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actually just weird profiles that keep spamming John Paul the

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second quotes that don't prove or just prove anything. They're

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just kind of irrelevant. And then you've got the usual

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like five or ten Roman Catholic comments of embrace the

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pope scuismatic, Well, why would I embrace the pope when

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he's literally saying that as long as I pat to God. Now,

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if you doubt me, Again, these people, as usual have

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no reading comprehension, so they typically don't read the whole

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context with the whole quote. And it's not just these

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two documents. These are just two of the clearest. You

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can also look at the Romancalolic Catechism, which says the

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same thing. Summarizing the two. It doesn't say that they

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only think they have it. It says they with us

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adore the one merciful God, and they have the faith

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of Amraham. You have to read both comments from both

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dogmatic statements. But again they have suddenly have reading comprehension

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problems when it suits them. Welcome everybody. We are doing

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a little bit of a geopolitical catchup, and I wanted

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to talk today again more broadly, more generally about how

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we got to where we are a lot of the

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books I've been reading lately and what my thoughts are

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on those. Why is the nineties coming back? I mean,

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these are kind of the the thought processes that I've

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been having the last several months. And the reason I

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wanted to talk about end times to a degree is

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did you notice that a lot of the Roman Catholics,

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so Tim said, Hey, maybe it's the end times and

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since yesterday's papal statements, everybody's in a flurry. I mean,

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Roman Catholics are in a flurry. My dms are filling up,

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and I are going back and forth. We went back

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and forth all morning, I mean in a friendly civil way.

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So we're going back and forth on will Vatican one

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and the pope and you know kind of pope be

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a heretic and all that, and blah blah blah. So

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I think I covered those quotes from Vatican One in

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yesterday's video, and I think I responded to the typical

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objection as like, look, Vatican one says that the pope

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and the office of the Pope and it's power to

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be the source of unity and continuity, and it's the

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source of public visible unity. That's Vatican one's argument the papacy, right.

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It says in two places that that office will continue,

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quote until the end of time. It doesn't say it'll

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continue to the end of the world. And then there's

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this great apostasy. There's nothing in Vatican one about a

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great apostasy which allows for one hundred, two hundred years,

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fifty years, seventy years, whatever without a valid pope. And

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if you did admit that. Let's say we admitted or

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we went with a position of these apparitions that whether

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it's akita or whether it's a loss, let that there

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could be a mass apostasy in the Roman Church. If

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we admitted that, then we're admitting that in the last days,

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the Roman Church and the Roman See loses its public

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visible unity. But that's one of its key four mark elements.

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One Holy Catholic I abstat right. So in their position,

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those constituent elements, which you'll read about in Roman Catholic theology,

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could never be lost. And what's the essential foundation of

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the public visible unity the Roman Sea. So you see,

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it's actually impossible to say that the pope could defect,

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apostatize Rome, could lose the faith, et cetera, and be

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an adherent to Vatican one. It's and remember it's supposed

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to be simple. I mean, the argument of Vatican one

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is that it's supposed to be clear, simple and manifest

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that the Roman See is the sign of the one

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True Church.

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Speaker 18: And so.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm not worried or upset about Sam. You

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know Sam, can I know Sam's dealing with these issues,

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He's been dealing with them a long time, so I'm

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sensitive to that, and if he wants to have a discussion,

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I just messaged him as so we can have that

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discussion anytime. One thing that I think Romancalolics need to do,

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I mean you guys should read through Vatican one. I

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said that to Tim, I said that to to Sam,

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and I'm not being rude or arrogant. It's just a

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lot of Roman Catholics don't read through those source documents.

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In Tim's case, he says, well, you know, I'm not

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primarily focused on dogmatic theology. I'm focused on philosophy. But

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now let me respond to this what about ism? Because

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a lot of the Roman Catholics of the point will say, well,

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you have a bad guy in Bartholomew. According to your

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own standards, you guys have elpeda fooros. You guys have

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these bad bishops. The argument is not we don't have

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bad bishops.

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Speaker 18: You do.

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Speaker 6: The argument is not our bishops don't sin, you have

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sinning bishops. No, no, no, it's way more precise than that.

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a heretical pope or an apostate pope. That's the thing why,

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the indefectibility and the inerrancy of the Roman See. The

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Roman See cannot teach error, whether publicly and dogmatically or

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in its normal, universal ordinary teaching, and even in its

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ordinary teaching, although it might error, you're still supposed to

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submit to that with docility. According to Lumgentium and the

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traditional Roman Catholic moral theology, it's your duty to submit

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with docility, even in the areas of Catholic theology that

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might be erroneous. It's not your place to go and

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correct the pope. So with those principles in mind, it

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has nothing to do with saying that the Roman bishop

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is impeccable. Nobody made the argument that Roman Catholicism is

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false because we think the pope is impeccable and Roman

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cality seemed to Pope is impeccable.

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Speaker 25: No.

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Speaker 6: No, it's about indefectibility and the Roman Sea not being

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liable to teaching error, which is emphasized over and over

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and over. No one judges the first sea, the Roman

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Sea is free from error, that actually goes back to

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things like Dictatus Pope. He goes back to Samakian forgeries

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and various papal forgeries that are still in canon law,

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that no one judges the first sea, that the first

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s he never errs. So we need to again set

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aside this oft repeated objection, which is a deflection. It's

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a deflection. Nobody is saying that the Orthodox Church has

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bishops that don't err or that don't sin. It's that

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Catholic theology teaches that you can't be.

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Speaker 26: So.

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Speaker 6: Again, so let's talk about these quotes that are being

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posted here. Orthodox ecclesiology is not Roman Catholic ecclesiology. So

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if Sam quotes patriarchs saying heretical things, everybody. Nestorius was

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a patriarch Constantinople. Many many patriarchs have been heretics. It

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doesn't undo the system of Orthodox ecclesiology and Orthodox theology.

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If you have heretical patriarchs, if the pope is a heretic,

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it undoes the Roman Catholic system and dogma. Do you

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see that? It's that simple. So I don't understand why

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people don't get this argument. I don't know if they're

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intentionally misunderstanding the argument and just doing what about isms,

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because it's not a what about ism, it's critiquing the

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Roman Catholic theology internally and then saying we don't have

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that problem in the Orthodox Church. I mean, how do

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people know? This is the same stuff Lofton has been

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saying for years.

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Speaker 4: Yo, do yoga problem bishops too well, worried about your

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problem bishops.

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Speaker 6: The argument is not we don't have problem bishops. How

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silly is this? The problem is that you have a

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system which mandates and solidifies certain principles about the Roman Sea,

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which could never be the case, in contrast to tim

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can never be the case that the Roman Sea goes

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without its living successors until the return of Christ, that

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it loses that visible unity, contrary to Sam or whoever

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else is arguing that. But you have sinful bishops who

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teacherrases too. Yes, but we don't hinge everything on one guy.

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So this is an interesting point too. That's raised about

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two quoke way and the question of double standards. So

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you have to be precise when something is too quoke

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way and when something is a double standard. So it

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really depends on what's being argued because This can be confusing.

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It can be confusing because two quoke way is what

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Let's say somebody says, I say, hey, Lofton, the Vatican

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too teaching about the Roman scene never defecting shows that

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Pope Francis has defected and that therefore Roman Catholicism is

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not true. And then if Lofton said, what about your

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bishops that teach us, that would be a two quotue

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way because the question was given to him and he

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responds with a question. But the problem, the reason that

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doesn't work is that I'm not bound by the logic

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of his system, right, I don't know the patriarch concept

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to nople is not a pope, even the pentarchy is

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not a pope. It's not a five headed pope. So

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you can't use your system to critique me, right, So

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that would be too two quotua. Well, what about your system.

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You're a hypocritcause you have so the other position. That's

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not like when we're talking with Muslims and we're doing

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an internal critique and we say, in our theology and

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our system, it's not inherently contradictory to say that God

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is one and three. There's an equal ultimacy there, and

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then we say to the Muslim, likewise, you have and

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you have to give an account for Allah's many attributes

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in his essence the same metaphysical problem. Do you see.

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That's a comparison between two systems and the internal standards

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amongst them. It's not a two quote wa because it

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depends on what the argument is. If the argument is

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that you have to justify your system on my system's grounds, right,

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or if the argument is are you using a double standard.

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For example, a Muslim will say something like liberal scholarship

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is my source and my proof for why the Bible's false.

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But then the same liberal scholarship which says that the

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Quran is false is discarded. You see that? Yeah, so

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an internal critique not a too quick way exactly. Thank

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you inquisitor. That's what I'm trying to delineate here. And

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I'm glad this came up because somebody brought this up

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the other day with the Muslims, and I was like,

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you know, these are different positions, here are different things. Well,

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I don't know what I mean. Just to make this

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really simple, I mean, I'm not watching Sam stream, so

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I don't know what he's arguing. But to make it

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really simple, like again, why would I be bound by

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the Roman Catholic idea of ecclesiology. Well, Sam has not

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read Vatican One yet. We just we were just talking

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about this. So that's why I told Sam he needs

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to read Vatican One. And I'm not being aggressive or

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trying to start a fight with Sam or anything. I

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love Sam. I'm just saying that. In the DMS, I said, hey,

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you need to if you're if you're interested in Catholicism,

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you need to read this document about fifteen pages. And

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I said the same thing to Tim Gordon too, by

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the way, So I'm not telling Sam or Tim anything

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different than I'm telling the other ones. Every Roman Catholic

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should be familiar with these source documents if they want

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to be Roman Catholic or defindent position, because a lot

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of what's floating around today after this Francis debacle is

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a lot of people making arguments again not understanding Vatican

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One and what it says. So maybe we need to

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rehearse Vatican One. Let's do that. By the way, if

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you want to support the stream, you can do so

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via super chats. So the first thing we're gonna note

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about papal teaching. And the reason I'm bringing this up

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is because I don't think Sam or Tim and I

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had actually had a discussion a DM on this about

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six months ago, so maybe Tim is aware of this now.

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I'm not sure what his position on this would be.

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But first mistake we always have to correct with Roman

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Catholics is that they think that they're only bound by

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00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:21,119
the papacy's extraordinary teaching, and uh, this is patently false.

475
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,400
I remember when I was in the ssp X going

476
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,000
to the Latin Mass. I used to think this. I

477
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:27,679
used to think, like every trade cat does at some

478
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,840
at some phase, Oh, I'm only bound by what what

479
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,519
the papist he says when it's extra ordinary. No, in fact,

480
00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:38,000
you're but you're bound by way more than that, and

481
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,400
you're you're bound by the ordinary universal teaching as well.

482
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:44,760
So let's see this. This is one site citation here

483
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,599
in the Vatican one. Wherefore, by divine Catholic faith, all

484
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:49,199
those things are to be believe, which are contained in

485
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,960
the Word of God, inscription, tradition, and proposed by the

486
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:55,639
Church as matters of UH to be believed by dialed

487
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,440
as divinely revealed, whether by solemn judgment or orderdinary and

488
00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:03,840
universal magisterium. So you understand that the solemn judgment is

489
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:10,559
the ex cathedral extraordinary magisterium. Ordinary universal magisterium is also

490
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:16,400
dogma and must also be believed. So the necessary propositions

491
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,920
to believe, be believed to be saved in Romancallay Church

492
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,960
are much broader than a handful of extra ex cathedral statements.

493
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,800
This is a classic mistake that Roman Catholics make. Let's

494
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,440
give an example of this. Well, what's something that's ordinary magisterium? Saints?

495
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:34,239
You cannot be a Roman Catholic and deny the sainthood

496
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:39,320
of Alphonse, Segori, Augustine, whoever, because they end up being

497
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:45,320
confirmed by Rome obviously. And let's think of the conclusion.

498
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,639
What would be the case if we could doubt sainthood

499
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,599
in the Roman Caelly Church. Well, I could go back

500
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:53,480
therefore in doubt all the saints. So the logic of

501
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:57,239
the system would be undone if you could doubt sainthood

502
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,760
in the Roman Calloic system. And that's why eventually Roman

503
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:05,639
cala the elogists tended to say, uh, yeah, sainthood is magistrate, ordinary,

504
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:11,639
universal magistrate. Let's see, because I think the statement is

505
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:57,559
said again. There's another statement about ordinary teaching. It might

506
00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:05,440
be in uh one of the encyclicals, but you get

507
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,440
the point here, because it's still pointing out that you

508
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:10,960
have to believe this. Now there's also Denzinger has two

509
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:18,079
other statements. I might not be able to find these

510
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:19,920
because I don't have mine. One of them is in

511
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:28,320
the seventeen hundreds. If you look at Denzinger, let's see,

512
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,320
it's the statement about you have to follow the Pope's

513
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:40,440
dridical rulings as well. Where did I I've got that

514
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:46,400
saved somewhere. I don't remember which number it is. It's

515
00:46:46,559 --> 00:47:02,079
like seventeen seventeen ninety two. Ooh, I can believe. I

516
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:05,800
remember that. So here's Denzinger seventeen ninety two. But seventeen

517
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,679
ninety two is a repeat of Vatican one. This is

518
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,280
the statement that we just read in Vatican one. And

519
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,519
there's three more in Denzinger that state that you have

520
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:24,360
to believe also beyond that the decisions of the Roman

521
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:29,119
College as well. So it is in the eighteen hundreds.

522
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:34,920
I remember this much. It's getting into this. It's phrased

523
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:41,360
something like there's also a condemned proposition. It's a condemned

524
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,159
proposition that you only have to believe what is in

525
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,760
the extraordinary teaching. I'm gonna find this because this is

526
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:57,760
really important. I know where I put it. Let's see,

527
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:03,360
is Vatican one infallible or about and two infallible? And

528
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,239
I listed these underneath it. That's where it is I

529
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:19,079
can believe remembered seventeen ninety two. Okay, we come down here.

530
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:31,159
This is this isn't This doesn't have the Denzinger statements,

531
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:34,320
but it does have so Pius the twelfth and ce

532
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:38,119
De la Gillis says that even if you think the

533
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:41,280
pope is wrong, you're bound by his statements. Pius the

534
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:46,440
eleventh and his encyclical Casti Kanubii. This condemns the proposition

535
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:49,639
that you're only bound by what you think is quote magisterium.

536
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:58,039
Let's pull that up. These are just real reaffirmations of

537
00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:09,199
the point that I was making. So it's Cassidy Kanubii

538
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:18,880
one four. I think it was. Therefore, let the faith

539
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,920
will be on guard against the overrated independence of private

540
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,480
judgment and the false autonomy human reason is quite foreign

541
00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:26,960
to the bearing of the name of Christians. Trust in

542
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,960
his own mental powers to imagine that the Church, sent

543
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:31,760
by God to guide and teach all nations, is not

544
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,400
conversing with president affairs and circumstances, or that they must

545
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,119
obey only in the matters which has been decreed. Do

546
00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:41,280
you see this by solemn definition, as though her decisions

547
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,079
might be presumed to be false or insufficient. Quite to

548
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:47,480
the contrary, You are bound by all the teachings on

549
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:49,679
faith and morals of the Roman Pontiff, not the ones

550
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:56,199
that are only so called solemn dogma, right there Cassi

551
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,480
Conubii one O four. And let me find the one

552
00:49:59,519 --> 00:50:09,960
about Roman college you are bound by. If I could

553
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,400
think of of the wording of the way it's worded,

554
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:22,119
I could remember it. Let me look real quick at

555
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:24,119
my book marks, because it might be there. I think

556
00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:25,679
I say it in book marks a long time ago,

557
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:32,960
something like Roman Catholics are bound by more than extraordinary magisterium.

558
00:50:34,039 --> 00:50:37,320
What what I'm looking for is the two crucial Denzinger quotes,

559
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:41,639
because there's two more. One of them is a condemned proposition,

560
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,599
probably from Cassidy Canubia, but one of them is I think,

561
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:50,519
from the Syllabus of Errors, and one of them is

562
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:56,880
from there was a question of whether you have to

563
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,760
accept the pope's like juridical decisions. So like at the

564
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,559
Pope says so and so is excommunicated, can you rebel

565
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:06,480
against that? And the answer is no, you're also bound

566
00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:11,679
by his juridical decisions. Let's see if I can find.

567
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 16: That all we need is our lives in a suitcase.

568
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 27: They be long to a friend of a friend, and

569
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as we dream to ourselves, we amuse ourselves underneath the sky.

570
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 15: This guy again.

571
00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:43,199
Speaker 6: There? Okay, well I think I found it. Yes, I

572
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,360
found it awesome. Okay, nice, sweet, I can't believe I

573
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:58,440
found that, Okay. Sixteen eighty three. Well, in truth we

574
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:00,960
lot these men would do pray that they confess the

575
00:52:01,039 --> 00:52:03,320
truth and their obligation arises from the Catholic faith. Blah

576
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,719
blah blah blah blah. That they do not wish to

577
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,639
confine the obligation by which Catholic teachers, teachers, and writers

578
00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:13,559
are absolutely bound only to the decrees of infallible judgment

579
00:52:15,519 --> 00:52:19,000
see seventeen twenty two. But you are also bound by

580
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:22,760
all of the other things. So sixteen eighty three is

581
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:36,800
referencing seventeen twenty two. The obligation by which Catholic teachers

582
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,960
and writers are absolutely bound is restricted only to the

583
00:52:40,039 --> 00:52:44,159
matters that are infallible and the dogmas. This is a

584
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:51,679
condemned proposition seventeen twenty two. These are the condemned propositions

585
00:52:51,719 --> 00:53:01,920
of Pious the ninth in the Syllabus of Errors. So

586
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:04,280
it is a condemned proposition that a Roman Catholic is

587
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,360
only bound by the infallible teachings of the Magisterium, and

588
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,360
not the universal ordinary teachings, or not the ordinary teaching

589
00:53:11,159 --> 00:53:30,599
all right next one, sixteen ninety eight. Nor do they

590
00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:33,679
blush to profess and publicly openly the axiom and the

591
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,320
principle of heretics from which various perverse opinions and errors arise.

592
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,639
For they repeatedly said that the ecclesiastical power is not,

593
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,039
by divine right distinct from the civil power, and the

594
00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:46,559
distinction and independence of the civil power cannot be preserved

595
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:49,599
without the essential rights of the civil power being invaded

596
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:52,039
and unasserted by the Church. That's a quote from the liberals.

597
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,119
We cannot pass over in silence the boldness of those

598
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:57,360
who do not endure sound doctrine and contend without sin,

599
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:00,760
that with no loss of Catholic profess Yes, one can

600
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:06,760
withhold assent the from obedience to the judgments and decrees

601
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,400
of the Apostolic Sea. This is condemned. So the idea

602
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,480
that you can be a good faithful Catholic and withhold

603
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:17,239
your assent to the judgments and the disciplines the disciplinary

604
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,239
judgments of the Roman Sea is a condemned proposition. So

605
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,079
you are condemned as a heretic if you believe that

606
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:30,639
in the Roman Caloic Church. And so that's the other

607
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:35,119
ones in Denzinger that I mentioned. Now, I know Denzinger,

608
00:54:35,519 --> 00:54:40,880
like Sam Shimoun, knows the Koran and the Haydiths. So

609
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,039
anybody who wants to discuss these topics, I'm more than

610
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:49,400
willing to have any kind of dogmatic Roman Catholic discussion. Again,

611
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:51,920
I know these texts like he knows the Kuran and

612
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:56,000
the Hadiths, so I'm more than willing to do any

613
00:54:56,079 --> 00:54:58,800
kind of deep dive anybody wants on these issues. But

614
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:04,159
as you can see, I gave you four Densinger references

615
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,079
and Casti KANUBII, so if you want the numbers. Densinger

616
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:12,960
sixteen eighty three, Dinsinger sixteen ninety eight Dinzinger seventeen twenty two.

617
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:23,119
Dinzinger seventeen ninety two. Castiy Kanubii one O four Vatican one,

618
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:31,400
Chapter three, Section eight, clear as day. That's why we

619
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,400
always say to the Roman the Tradcats, you can't reject

620
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:39,280
Vatican two. It doesn't matter if it's called a pastoral council.

621
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It's confirmed by the Apostolic Sea, it deals with faith

622
00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:44,599
and morals, and it's for the entire Catholic Church. There

623
00:55:44,639 --> 00:55:47,320
you go. You have to believe it. You can't reject

624
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:53,199
Vatican two if you're a Catholic. Anyway, how many times

625
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,079
have we talked about this, like a million? I mean

626
00:55:56,079 --> 00:55:59,840
I've been literally been sitting here covering Denzinger and trad

627
00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:05,280
at copes and doctrines for how many years? And you

628
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,679
notice every time they come to debate, they get demolished

629
00:56:07,679 --> 00:56:09,440
and they run off and cry and they won't debate,

630
00:56:09,519 --> 00:56:11,320
or they just boot me from their streams. So that's

631
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:27,519
why I don't go in their streams. Okay, but I

632
00:56:27,639 --> 00:56:30,480
wasn't really planning on now. By the way, Yeah, everybody

633
00:56:30,519 --> 00:56:33,000
should be aware of mortalium animus, because that's one of

634
00:56:33,039 --> 00:56:37,039
the other really crucial documents in this and people should

635
00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:43,559
read this if they haven't, because it's really the clearest condemnation.

636
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,519
That's the latest condemnation of this stuff from the Vatican.

637
00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:48,840
So the last time that the Vatican made a really

638
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:55,079
explicit rejection of multi faith interfaith gatherings that I'm aware

639
00:56:55,119 --> 00:56:58,800
of was the nineteen twenty eight I guess it's an

640
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,000
encyclical of pious the ninth I means give me eleventh

641
00:57:02,119 --> 00:57:05,440
nineteen twenty eight Pis eleven, the Mortalium Animos, and the

642
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:06,639
whole document it's.

643
00:57:06,519 --> 00:57:07,039
Speaker 2: Not that long.

644
00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:10,679
Speaker 6: You should read it. It's really a very clear condemnation

645
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,480
that the reason that Catholics can't engage. Look at this

646
00:57:15,159 --> 00:57:17,880
so veneral, brethren, it is clear why the apposoliccy has

647
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,280
never allowed its subjects to take part in the assemblies

648
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,360
of non Catholics, For the union of Christians can only

649
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,920
happen in the Roman Church. The one true Church is

650
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,639
visible to all. It is the mystical spouse of Christ

651
00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:34,239
et cetera, and so it could never be in communion

652
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,400
or allow its members to engage in interfaith gatherings. This

653
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:42,559
whole document, clear as day, is a condemnation of interfaith gatherings,

654
00:57:43,639 --> 00:57:45,880
and it's very famous, it's very well known. You know

655
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,760
what Roman Catholics say, Oh well, it wasn't dogma. Oh

656
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,079
but it doesn't have to be dogma for you to

657
00:57:54,239 --> 00:58:00,400
follow it. It only has to be normative teaching. Certainly,

658
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:06,360
the popes and cyclicals are ordinary universal normative teaching. In

659
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,559
this case, the pope is speaking on faith and morals.

660
00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:12,559
He is speaking as the successor to Peter, to the

661
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:18,159
entire church. Who's it written to the patriarchs, the primates,

662
00:58:18,159 --> 00:58:21,880
the arch bishops, the bishops in communion with the whole

663
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,840
with the absociate the whole world on religious unity. The

664
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,000
whole document is a condemnation, and it says that if

665
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:34,559
you engage in inter faith gatherings, you are an apostate.

666
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,079
You have left the Christian faith. You are no longer

667
00:58:38,119 --> 00:58:41,679
remember the mystical body, because you have surrendered what is

668
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,199
a fundamental doctrine of Christianity, which is that Christ is

669
00:58:44,239 --> 00:58:49,840
the only way to be saved. So anybody who wants

670
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,400
to come debate these topics again, I know these documents,

671
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,800
like Sam knows the Quran and knows how des I mean,

672
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,840
I'll go all day long with Denzinger. I mean, you

673
00:59:00,199 --> 00:59:03,480
have seen my Denzinger, right, I've read Denzinger. I'm not

674
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:06,639
trying to be rude. I don't think Tim or Sam

675
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:09,840
even have Denzinger, So they're not this is not a

676
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,920
position that they're in that they're ready to debate. That

677
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,599
would be like me saying I'm gonna go debate Sam

678
00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:17,079
Shamun on the on the Quran, and I'm gonna win.

679
00:59:20,199 --> 00:59:22,760
I don't know, I know these I was an insane

680
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,960
trad cat for ten years. I lived this, I breathed this.

681
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:33,920
I dare say nobody knows the trad cat ins and

682
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:39,840
outs in the internet sphere better than me. I mean,

683
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,719
there might be some nerd who spent more time in

684
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:46,559
these stupid documents, but when it comes to executing the arguments,

685
00:59:46,599 --> 00:59:49,840
I dare say that there's not a trad cat out

686
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:55,559
there that could really hold up to this, because I mean,

687
00:59:55,559 --> 01:00:00,199
if you took if you take this stuff seriously, you're

688
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,039
going to you know, immerse yourself in all these doctrines

689
01:00:03,079 --> 01:00:08,960
and documents. How long was I sspx orceta so I

690
01:00:09,039 --> 01:00:11,679
got I started reading Romancolic stuff in two thousand and one.

691
01:00:12,719 --> 01:00:14,639
I came into the Roman Church two thousand and three.

692
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:18,480
I was pretty quickly at trad I didn't really know

693
01:00:18,639 --> 01:00:23,719
what was right about who was and wasn't pope in

694
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,519
two thousand and three. I read the first set of

695
01:00:25,519 --> 01:00:27,679
a conscious book in two thousand and four or five,

696
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,840
but I wasn't convinced of it. I just thought, well,

697
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,199
there's all these different types of positions that you could

698
01:00:33,239 --> 01:00:36,320
have on the Vatican. It took me a couple more

699
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,880
years before I started leaning more and more to think

700
01:00:39,079 --> 01:00:41,679
that John Paul the scond was not a valid pope.

701
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:43,599
But I mean I was still just if you're in

702
01:00:43,639 --> 01:00:45,920
the SSPC, you just kind of you just kind of

703
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,800
set that issue aside because you think, well, there's not

704
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,039
much I can do about it. I'm going to the

705
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:55,760
Latin Mass. It's even the Vatican admits that, you know,

706
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,760
the Latin Mass is like valid sacraments. So if you're

707
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,639
in the SSPX side position and you just kind of

708
01:01:01,719 --> 01:01:03,360
don't spend a whole lot of time worrying about it

709
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and you just go to the Mass, right, but it

710
01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:16,719
kind of wears at you and you start thinking, well,

711
01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:21,920
but how's this SSPX position actually tenable? And I didn't

712
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,239
really think about the SSPX position being untenable until I

713
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,239
was confronted with the question of universal ordinary magisteriums. In

714
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:33,440
other words, this Vatican One teaching that you have, you're

715
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,800
not just bound by the dogmas. I mean that undoes

716
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,880
this right here sixteen ninety eight that an that ends

717
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,840
the SSPX position. The whole SSPX position is premised on

718
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,920
rejecting John Paul the Second's excommunication of le Fever. But

719
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,840
clearly sixteen ninety eight says you don't have the right

720
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:57,840
to reject a papal excommunication. You must follow the pope

721
01:01:58,239 --> 01:02:01,480
and the Roman see the Roman College in their juridical decisions.

722
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And so if that's the case, bye, by the SSPX,

723
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,280
you guys are the definition you are in the Roman system,

724
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:13,239
the definition of schismatic. So if the SSPX goes, really

725
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,199
the only logical position is to say, out of a

726
01:02:15,239 --> 01:02:18,360
contestm right like. And for a long time I still

727
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,039
went to the SSPX because they had valid sacraments, even

728
01:02:21,039 --> 01:02:25,400
though in my personal opinion was that by that time

729
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:30,199
Benedict wasn't a valid pope. But there's nothing I could

730
01:02:30,199 --> 01:02:32,400
do about that. So it's more important to get valid sacraments.

731
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So I went to the Latin mass from about two

732
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thousand and four until two thousand and eight ish. Anyway,

733
01:02:48,519 --> 01:02:53,199
I wasn't really planning on And by the way, why

734
01:02:53,199 --> 01:02:56,320
does everybody want to like, why do you want to

735
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,079
defend all this stuff? Like is it not time to

736
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:03,559
give this stuff up? The other thing people don't realize too,

737
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,039
is h And I noticed this in the Abara debate.

738
01:03:06,119 --> 01:03:08,519
Remember going back to the Abar debate. Remember when I

739
01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:11,639
was debating Abara and I said, Eric, I'm here, I

740
01:03:11,719 --> 01:03:15,079
want to debate pre Vatican two and post Vatican two teaching.

741
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,960
And Eric said, Jillo wanted to debate the papacy stacking

742
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:25,719
up historical case examples. But what I was trying to

743
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:34,400
do was argue the system, the system right. And Eric

744
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,599
wanted to argue in an evidential way that if you

745
01:03:36,639 --> 01:03:40,000
could pile up enough so called evidences for the Vatican

746
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:43,840
one mindset of the papacy, then isn't it likely that

747
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:48,760
maybe Vatican one papacy is possible? And my argument was, well,

748
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,679
if Vatican pre Vatican too and post Vatican two theology contradicts,

749
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,599
that's all I need to invalidate the whole system. I

750
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,320
only need one dogmatic contradiction to invalidate that system, because

751
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,079
that system, said the Romans. He cannot teach error, there

752
01:04:02,119 --> 01:04:05,719
cannot be a contradiction in dogma. So their own system

753
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,760
has set themselves up for this fall. You know, don't

754
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,880
you don't understand this, and don't you think that. I mean,

755
01:04:12,039 --> 01:04:17,079
I'm not making this. This doesn't prove anything because it

756
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:19,119
could be wrong, right, I could be wrong. I could

757
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:21,559
have missed some piece of data or something. But I've

758
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:24,199
already been through this, Like I did this whole thing

759
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,599
in the two thousands, all the what everybody's going through

760
01:04:27,679 --> 01:04:31,000
right now. I already did this stuff, like I lived

761
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:33,719
in Denzinger and the Tsuma and in the you know,

762
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:39,320
Latin Church Fathers and the Catechism of Trent, and I

763
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,960
lived and breath this. I actually bought the tanor alberta

764
01:04:44,039 --> 01:04:50,119
Goo official Jesuit version to volume, multi hundred dollars set

765
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:54,800
of the Roman Catholic commitical Councils. I bought all of

766
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,440
the papal and cyclicals that I had access to. There

767
01:04:57,519 --> 01:04:59,280
was one papal in cyclical set that was like five

768
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,719
hundred dollars, like Afford. It was all the papal encyclicals

769
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,599
from like the seventeen hundreds up till today. Or something.

770
01:05:08,239 --> 01:05:10,719
But I read all five or six hundred pages of

771
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,800
Lee of the Thirteen's and cyclicals. I read all of

772
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:17,280
the Masonic encyclicals. I've read all of the encyclicals in

773
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:21,719
Popes against the Modern Errors. I've read many of the

774
01:05:22,519 --> 01:05:27,639
encyclicals of Piss of twelfth and Piss the eleventh. I've

775
01:05:27,679 --> 01:05:30,760
read majority of Piss a tenths works that are in English,

776
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:36,039
and the cyclicals. I read all Denzinger multiple times. So like,

777
01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:39,679
I know this realm now again, doesn't mean I have

778
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,639
every I could be wrong about some minutia of Catholic doctrine.

779
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,800
That's true, because I don't I'm not in that world anymore.

780
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,239
I don't care about it anymore except for the purpose

781
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:53,599
of apologetics and so forth. So there could be some like, oh,

782
01:05:53,679 --> 01:05:56,039
you didn't know that canon law actually says this on

783
01:05:56,159 --> 01:06:00,639
page paragraph for four hundred and thirty two whatever, So yeah,

784
01:06:00,719 --> 01:06:03,840
maybe there's something minutia, but like, the main issue is here,

785
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,440
I'm not wrong about this, Like I know this very well.

786
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:17,719
So in the case that people like Sam or Tim,

787
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,639
you know, look, it's always an open door to come chat.

788
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:26,480
You can always come talk about this stuff. It does

789
01:06:26,599 --> 01:06:28,400
have to be a debate. People want to have a conversation.

790
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,760
But this is what I mean this. I know this

791
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,119
this feeling too, because look.

792
01:06:41,239 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 2: When I was.

793
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,199
Speaker 6: In two thousand and three, when I went into Rome,

794
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:52,320
I was immediately confronted with problems when at that time

795
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,320
this was not too long after, because I think John

796
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,559
Paul had not too long before that kissed the Kuran,

797
01:06:59,199 --> 01:07:01,079
and that was something would bring up and I would

798
01:07:01,079 --> 01:07:04,079
be like, well, that's pretty rough. I don't know, And

799
01:07:04,159 --> 01:07:05,880
I remember thinking for a long time, well that's just

800
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,119
a you know, personal error that he shouldn't have done

801
01:07:08,119 --> 01:07:10,599
that as a mistake you made. But the problem is

802
01:07:10,639 --> 01:07:12,840
that the mistakes that are being made are actually on

803
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:20,400
the basis of things in Vatican two, right, And there's

804
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:25,400
no way that a person who is a Christian and

805
01:07:25,519 --> 01:07:29,880
believes the teaching and understands what Islam says could say

806
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,159
that the plan of salvation includes those who acknowledge the Creator,

807
01:07:33,239 --> 01:07:37,000
the first of whom is the Muslims who profess to

808
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:39,719
hold the faith of Abraham and along with us, adore

809
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:46,639
the One merciful God. In Hinduism, men contemplate the divine

810
01:07:46,719 --> 01:07:51,519
mystery and seek a flight to God with love and trust.

811
01:07:52,119 --> 01:07:58,639
I'm paraphrasing. So if it had not set in Hinduism

812
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:04,119
the demonic system, you might could salvage that quote if

813
01:08:04,159 --> 01:08:05,679
it had not said. And by the way, it's not

814
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:22,199
just it says. It says that Muslims with us. With Catholics,

815
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,119
they say, I'm not a Catholic.

816
01:08:24,119 --> 01:08:24,560
Speaker 28: You know what I mean?

817
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 18: With us?

818
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 6: The Catholics adore the One, the One True God. Adoration

819
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:35,720
is worship in Catholic theology. So it's not just a

820
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:42,000
mental recognition that there's a single deity. Muslims worship the

821
01:08:42,119 --> 01:08:46,039
One True God with Catholics. So if these are the

822
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:49,680
statements in Vatican two, and if for decades the popes

823
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:56,039
have been having public prayer meetings with Muslims, if Francis

824
01:08:56,319 --> 01:09:00,279
and Benedict have been praying in Moss towards Mecca, their

825
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:05,359
actions tell you what they think. And I don't have

826
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,520
a problem saying that whatever patriarch went to the Assisi gatherings,

827
01:09:10,079 --> 01:09:25,560
he's just as much a heretic. Right, So what about

828
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:32,680
the interfaith center in Russia? So Putin kissing the Quran

829
01:09:33,239 --> 01:09:35,560
is not the equivalent of the pope kissing the Quran.

830
01:09:43,399 --> 01:09:48,119
And I totally agree that this is just as bad

831
01:09:48,239 --> 01:09:54,479
as what Francis does. But again, in the Orthodox system,

832
01:09:54,520 --> 01:10:01,239
it's a decentralized church, right, so if a patriarch apostatizes,

833
01:10:01,359 --> 01:10:08,119
or if a patriarch commits error heresy, it doesn't undo

834
01:10:08,199 --> 01:10:16,840
the system. Yeah, but again you can put up quotes

835
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:22,920
the Orthodox we have been criticizing and refuting acumenism for

836
01:10:23,119 --> 01:10:25,680
how long? So all this point, all this shows is

837
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:31,520
that the Orthodox Church has ecumenism as a danger. The

838
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:38,680
Romancaloity Church has ecumenism, the Protestants have ecumenism. But what's

839
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,680
at root the problem here is which ecclesiology is invalidated

840
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:47,520
by this? So they're trying to take what aboutisms about

841
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,520
the fact that you have problems in your church of ecumenism,

842
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,840
and so do we. Yeah, but the difference is that

843
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,000
the Orthodox we could lose all the patriarchs. Like let's

844
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,800
say all the patriarchs went to some city for meeting,

845
01:11:00,279 --> 01:11:05,600
and let's say that a comment destroyed all five patriarchs,

846
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,039
all six whatever, however, I mean, you know what I mean, Like,

847
01:11:08,159 --> 01:11:10,760
so the five patriarchs minus Rome. Let's say Rome was

848
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,000
Let's say all of the patriarchs get get destroyed by

849
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,920
a comment oh, I guess the Orthodox Church doesn't exist

850
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,600
anymore because we don't have the pentarchy. The pentarchy is

851
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:23,760
a system that's accepted gradually over time, by the fifth

852
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:27,319
sixth seventh century. If it's something that is accepted by

853
01:11:27,359 --> 01:11:31,039
the fifth sixth seventh century, the pentarchy five, then obvious

854
01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:33,359
is not essential to the church. If it didn't exist

855
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,479
in centuries one, two, and three. Christians were being saved

856
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,199
in the first, second, third century without the pentarchy, weren't they.

857
01:11:40,079 --> 01:11:43,159
So pentarchy is something that's a canonical development. It's not

858
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:48,720
essential to the church. It can be normative, but conceivably

859
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:53,520
every patriarch it could apostatize. I'm not saying every patriot

860
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,880
has apostatized, but canon law and all of this. It

861
01:11:58,039 --> 01:12:00,520
operates different in the Orthodox Church than it does in

862
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,920
the Latin Church. In the Latin Church, there's certain sins

863
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:11,680
that ipso facto excommunicate you. For example, if you procure

864
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,960
an abration in Roman Catholic canon law, to procure an

865
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,640
abrastion automatically excommunicates you from the Roman Catholic Church.

866
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:20,119
Speaker 2: Did you know that?

867
01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 6: Did you know that's Catholic canon law? Because as Mestichi

868
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,840
Corporus and Leo the thirteenth Southeast Cognetium say to commit

869
01:12:33,319 --> 01:12:36,800
the sins of heresy and apostasy. In Roman Catholic theology,

870
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,720
ipso facto lates sententia removing from the body. That means

871
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:48,119
that no sonodal, jurisdictional, juridical statement is required. That's what

872
01:12:48,359 --> 01:12:52,319
laatees sententia and ipso facto mean. Ipso facto, by the

873
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:56,119
very fact, by the very fact of worshiping in the

874
01:12:56,159 --> 01:13:00,760
mosque towards Mecca, you, ipso facto, have rejected the Christian faith.

875
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,640
And in Catholic theology, how can the pope be the

876
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,680
head of that which he is not a member? How

877
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,159
can the bishops be heads of that of which they

878
01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:19,079
are not members? And you say, well, this is an

879
01:13:19,159 --> 01:13:23,239
argument set as mate. So either the argument is true

880
01:13:23,319 --> 01:13:26,960
or it's false. The source of the argument is irrelevant.

881
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,600
That's a genetic fallacy. Well, I don't like suns, so

882
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,640
you're using their arguments. So I mean you guys use

883
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,920
Aristotles first cause arguments Aristol is a pagan? So should

884
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,720
I throw out all of Aristotle because he's a pagan?

885
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,359
So you see, you don't utilize the same standard as

886
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:48,039
Catholics when you complain about oh you use tag? Is

887
01:13:48,279 --> 01:13:51,880
Greg Bunsen was a Cotus used tag. So the argument

888
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,399
stands on its own regardless of whether Greg Bonson said

889
01:13:54,520 --> 01:14:13,479
or not. So likewise, either it is an ipso facto

890
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:19,479
removal or it's not. Let's see if that's I'm pretty

891
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:31,319
sure that's still in the new code of canlaw. Here's

892
01:14:31,319 --> 01:14:32,359
the example of abration.

893
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 2: Oh what do you know?

894
01:14:53,159 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 6: Canon thirteen sixty four. An apostate, a heretic, or a

895
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:04,920
schismatic incurs lattes intense excommunication without prejudice to the provision.

896
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,199
He or she may be punished with the penalties. Do

897
01:15:09,239 --> 01:15:15,720
you know what this means? Latte sentence without a canonical

898
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:26,439
or excuse me, without a without an official pronouncement. A

899
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:30,479
person who uses physical force against the pope incurs an

900
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:41,720
immediate excommunication by that act. A person who attempts to

901
01:15:42,279 --> 01:15:46,560
confers sacred orders upon a woman incurs latte sentence excommunication.

902
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,640
So you'll notice there's many actions and sins. Now why

903
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,319
am I showing this because in Roman Catholic canon law,

904
01:15:59,399 --> 01:16:02,920
this is their can in law. Not all sins are equal,

905
01:16:04,119 --> 01:16:07,680
not all sins incur the same penalty. If you have

906
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,800
a dirty thought about a woman, you're going to confess that.

907
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:15,520
But it does not LATAs sententia automatically excommunicate you from

908
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,880
the visible Church of Christ. In Roman Cavol Canon law,

909
01:16:19,319 --> 01:16:22,239
all the sins that you're seeing listed here in actions

910
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:29,039
are examples where it does do that. So this is

911
01:16:29,079 --> 01:16:33,760
talking about various invalid ordinations. If a person tresn't ordain

912
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:38,520
somebody out of accord with what's accepted, it's an automatic

913
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:44,000
ex communication. If a cleric attempts to get married, he

914
01:16:44,119 --> 01:16:51,039
incurs an automatic excommunication. Anyone look at this Canon thirteen

915
01:16:51,119 --> 01:16:54,680
ninety seven. To any person who procures an abraustion is

916
01:16:54,840 --> 01:17:03,640
latae sententia automatically excommunicated? Again, do you understand that latte

917
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:09,560
sententiae ipso facto means that you don't have to have

918
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:15,680
the church officially say I pronounced Bob Smith excommunicated. The

919
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:20,520
very word means by the action itself. That's why it

920
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:27,239
says any apostate or heretic or schismatic is automatically excommunicated

921
01:17:27,239 --> 01:17:28,079
from the calolgy church.

922
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:31,319
Speaker 18: Clear as day.

923
01:17:32,359 --> 01:17:36,159
Speaker 6: You're not a canon lawyer, Okay, tell me where I'm wrong. No,

924
01:17:36,279 --> 01:17:40,039
I'm not. I don't claim to be a canon lawyer. Hey, Jamy,

925
01:17:41,199 --> 01:17:57,319
could you make me a double shot with some uh manuka, honey. Yeah,

926
01:17:57,399 --> 01:18:01,760
it does not require any formal decree by the Roman

927
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:06,560
Catholic bishops or the pope or anything. It's ipso facto

928
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:13,000
lat centence. See that. And did you notice that not

929
01:18:13,159 --> 01:18:17,239
all sins do this, only certain serious grave sins. And

930
01:18:17,359 --> 01:18:19,239
some of the ones I didn't even know. I didn't

931
01:18:19,279 --> 01:18:21,079
know that if you try to if you try to

932
01:18:21,159 --> 01:18:25,479
punch Pope Frank, you get automatically communicated. That one was

933
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,239
a funny one. I didn't nextally know that abration. That

934
01:18:28,279 --> 01:18:30,960
one I knew was lates inentence. I did not know

935
01:18:31,279 --> 01:18:33,960
that if you try to ordain a woman, you're automatically communicated.

936
01:18:34,039 --> 01:18:38,880
Didn't know that one. So there you go. So here's

937
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the present day. This is the nineteen eighty three code

938
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,880
of kendlaw. I'm pretty sure. So they can't say, well,

939
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:48,479
this is the nineteen seventeen code. Is not the nineteen

940
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,960
thirty dude, this is not the nineteen eighty three code. No,

941
01:18:52,119 --> 01:18:54,359
this is the nineteen eighty three code. So it continues.

942
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I'm going to make sure it's the nineteen oh three code. Yes,

943
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,760
here it is presentation of the new code Kennala in

944
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:06,439
nineteen eighty three. So all the possible copes and explanations

945
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:10,119
and talking around all this nonsense, they're just counting on

946
01:19:10,199 --> 01:19:12,359
you guys, not knowing that this is what they teach.

947
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,119
And is this not obvious that not all the sins

948
01:19:18,159 --> 01:19:21,560
are the same? I mean, do they not know this?

949
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:30,159
Do they think that? So here is the link to

950
01:19:30,199 --> 01:19:32,840
their canon law and you can see right there right

951
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:37,840
away thirteen sixty four. Right away, if you commit the

952
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:44,359
sins of heresy, skiz them an apostasy, you're automatically out

953
01:19:44,399 --> 01:19:48,560
of the Roman Church. That means the decades of popes

954
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,319
committing all these interfaith gatherings and actions which Mortalian animos

955
01:19:53,359 --> 01:19:57,039
said is a surrendering of the faith. Are Italian minimos

956
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,119
are themselves tic, schismatics and apostates? And why is that?

957
01:20:03,239 --> 01:20:06,960
Because of the decrees of Vatican two. By teaching that

958
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,800
all the religions are paths to God, you can be

959
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,880
saved in Hinduism, Muslims out of the faith of Abraham.

960
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,560
Muslims adore the same God as us. Adoration is worship,

961
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:23,159
not just a mental recognition, it's actually worship, and so

962
01:20:23,359 --> 01:20:27,239
Francis is not doing anything new when he says what

963
01:20:27,319 --> 01:20:33,640
we say. Now again, I absolutely agree. I absolutely agree

964
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:37,199
with Sam and anyone else who critiques the Ecumenists and

965
01:20:37,199 --> 01:20:40,239
the Orthodox Church. I guess what, I've been doing podcasts

966
01:20:40,319 --> 01:20:43,640
for years talking about the Ecumenism and the Orthodox Church

967
01:20:44,399 --> 01:20:47,039
and calling it out and opposing it and calling out

968
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:59,039
Bartholomew as a bad man. Why should I? I mean,

969
01:20:59,239 --> 01:21:02,840
I have talked to Sam in private about this, but

970
01:21:03,239 --> 01:21:06,119
people are talking publicly. I'm gonna reply publicly, and I'm

971
01:21:06,159 --> 01:21:12,079
not mad at Sam again. Man Like Sam's experience with

972
01:21:12,279 --> 01:21:17,279
Islam going back to the late nineties is my experience

973
01:21:17,359 --> 01:21:19,640
with Catholicism going back to the late nineties and the

974
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:21,840
year two thousand. I first started reading Catholic stuff in

975
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:26,760
two thousand. So this is not this is my world.

976
01:21:33,039 --> 01:21:34,760
Why do you think the track can take me so much?

977
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,079
Because I go, I know the documents, their documents better

978
01:21:39,159 --> 01:21:43,039
than them. No, you don't know a Quitas better than

979
01:21:43,079 --> 01:21:45,279
I don't care about Aquinas. I'm talking about their dogmas.

980
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,720
The documents and the dogmas. Roman Catholicism is not Aquinas.

981
01:21:49,199 --> 01:21:52,319
Roman Catholicism is the dogmas. That's what you're supposed to follow.

982
01:21:52,359 --> 01:21:53,119
That's what the religion is.

983
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:53,520
Speaker 1: You see.

984
01:21:56,399 --> 01:21:58,560
Speaker 6: So here we are. We got all this sidetracked and

985
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:04,000
all this stuff when actually it wasn't even here to

986
01:22:04,039 --> 01:22:07,960
talk about the theology again today? How many times do

987
01:22:08,039 --> 01:22:11,199
we have to talk I've literally done this stream how

988
01:22:11,239 --> 01:22:14,239
many times? This is probably the thirtieth time I've done

989
01:22:14,279 --> 01:22:21,800
this specifically these topics. Welcome everybody. Thank you, appreciate those

990
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,199
super chats. You want to support the stream, you can

991
01:22:23,239 --> 01:22:25,880
do so by the super chat function. Pano shout out

992
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,039
to Panos, have a blessed feast of exaltation on the

993
01:22:29,039 --> 01:22:31,520
new calendar. This superchat is to underscore that the streams

994
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,920
today is a festal message the Cross of Christ. Users

995
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,920
in the joy the whole universe. Do not let any

996
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,960
evil sygh ops rob you of that joy exactly. Now,

997
01:22:41,039 --> 01:22:44,279
let's get away from all this theology stuff and stop

998
01:22:44,319 --> 01:22:46,039
trying to get me to argue with Sam in the chat.

999
01:22:48,119 --> 01:22:50,840
Sam's gonna have to work through these issues at his pace.

1000
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,600
There's always an open door to talk about this stuff.

1001
01:22:54,359 --> 01:22:56,760
I'm not going to do any interactions with William Aubricks.

1002
01:22:57,079 --> 01:23:01,079
I actually think he's worse than Loften. I would interact

1003
01:23:01,079 --> 01:23:06,600
with Loughton before I'd interact with all So, uh, you

1004
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:08,720
know Sam can deal with this when Sam is ready

1005
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:09,079
to deal with it.

1006
01:23:12,319 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 1: Uh.

1007
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 6: You know, look, if people call names, don't worry about it.

1008
01:23:16,079 --> 01:23:18,520
Let's let's be big. Put on their big boy pants,

1009
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,800
big boy pants. Put your big boy pants on, and

1010
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:22,840
don't worry about it. Who cares if he calls people names.

1011
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:31,800
Now things are getting crazy because you know Putin is

1012
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,520
warning that things could escalate, escalate.

1013
01:23:35,239 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 18: Uh, then this way is really Internet is nothing.

1014
01:23:54,159 --> 01:23:54,560
Speaker 6: Put you on.

1015
01:23:57,119 --> 01:23:59,399
Speaker 18: Your tea.

1016
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:27,319
Speaker 22: The conflict condition you gusual conflict new speaking glass.

1017
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:48,560
Speaker 6: So there's the recent statement and Lord Baltimore commented put

1018
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,640
and warns there will be no winners in this war.

1019
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,079
Insane neocons like Bolden and Obama think that they can

1020
01:24:54,119 --> 01:24:57,399
defeat Russia like they tried with non nuclear powers in

1021
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,119
the Middle East. Please keep this in mind that the

1022
01:25:00,239 --> 01:25:04,279
US would not defeat could not defeat North Vietnam in

1023
01:25:04,359 --> 01:25:08,000
a twelve year war. And I think it would be

1024
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:14,279
a huge mistake to keep escalating this because it's really

1025
01:25:14,359 --> 01:25:19,600
not serving the American population at all. It's serving a

1026
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:25,920
political elite class in Washington, who has a certain business

1027
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:34,520
ventures and geopolitical ventures, money laundering ventures through the Ukraine. Neocons,

1028
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:39,039
other foreign governments and foreign nations are benefiting from this

1029
01:25:39,359 --> 01:25:42,279
Ukraine situation. No one here has benefiting from it. And

1030
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:46,279
again it's just sort of escalating. And the problem is

1031
01:25:46,359 --> 01:25:52,760
that because if they perceive that they can't convince America

1032
01:25:52,840 --> 01:26:01,239
that commommunism or comma munism is legit, they're going to

1033
01:26:01,319 --> 01:26:03,720
up the ante to make sure that there's not an election.

1034
01:26:04,319 --> 01:26:08,319
And I'm not saying that I worship don Trump. He's

1035
01:26:08,359 --> 01:26:12,239
going safe as I'm happy to criticize Trump. I've always

1036
01:26:12,279 --> 01:26:17,520
been pretty critical of I mean, overall, he's obviously better

1037
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,159
than Kamala, but we know it's you know, it's just

1038
01:26:21,279 --> 01:26:25,279
limited what a president could even do. But we saw

1039
01:26:25,399 --> 01:26:32,159
that the neo conservative Democrats have had a tremendous hand

1040
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:36,960
in the last four years in destroying the country. They're

1041
01:26:37,039 --> 01:26:39,600
very effective at doing that, and I do not believe

1042
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:43,680
they are incompetent. I believe they are malicious, and so

1043
01:26:45,159 --> 01:26:48,359
they could very well use this situation as the means

1044
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:53,439
by which there's not going to be a normal stolen

1045
01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:01,680
re election. Trying to choose by words carefully on thank

1046
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:06,319
you on YouTube because we don't know what. Like, I

1047
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:09,720
noticed that YouTube was removing a lot of health related videos.

1048
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,760
So that was making me think they're going to continue

1049
01:27:15,199 --> 01:27:26,239
with some form of like coof Coove part two. But

1050
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:30,640
but but that's been really quiet, right, coof part two

1051
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,399
has been they've been pretty quiet about that. There was

1052
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:38,960
some talk of monkey pox, monkey pocks. You'll always be home,

1053
01:27:39,039 --> 01:27:44,720
sweet Home to me, good old monkey pucks, monkey pox ten.

1054
01:27:45,079 --> 01:27:45,319
Speaker 18: See.

1055
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that again, to reiterate this multiple times over

1056
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,960
in the d the centralized Church of Orthodoxy, if the

1057
01:28:03,039 --> 01:28:06,640
majority of the bishops became heretics, which you see for

1058
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,800
example in the Arian Crisis in the fourth century, the

1059
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:12,840
majority of the churches heretics, the church can still survive.

1060
01:28:15,279 --> 01:28:18,199
If the Roman Catholic Vatican one model is the church,

1061
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:24,680
then the pope becoming a heretic destroys the system. Can

1062
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:28,279
people not see that there's a difference between the Orthodox

1063
01:28:28,319 --> 01:28:37,920
ecclesiology and the Roman Catholic one. So anyway, Yeah, I

1064
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:41,640
don't really think that monkey pox was a viable that

1065
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,760
didn't seem to go over. So now it seems like

1066
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:49,439
they're shifting back towards talking about the threat of Russia

1067
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,159
again and war with Russia and all this kind of

1068
01:28:53,199 --> 01:28:55,560
stuff is like back on on the forefront. So it's

1069
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,119
they keep going back and forth. Right now, keep in mind,

1070
01:28:59,279 --> 01:29:02,560
as we've been pointing out, there could also be economic problems. Right,

1071
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:08,439
we might move into an economic collapse. Right, that could

1072
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:12,279
be one of the cards that occurs. Some people say, well,

1073
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,039
they wouldn't do that intentionally because they want to keep

1074
01:29:16,119 --> 01:29:19,680
milking this system, and they why would they roll out

1075
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,479
an economic collapse. Well, one reason to roll out an

1076
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,680
economic collapse could be to bring in the new system.

1077
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:29,560
So if they're ready to bring in UBI and all

1078
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:35,359
of that, an eco collapse could be very useful for that.

1079
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,319
But again war could also be useful that. But also

1080
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,840
keep in mind, you could have a double triple it up.

1081
01:29:42,119 --> 01:29:46,600
You could have an eco collapse and war and some

1082
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:51,920
other you know scenario. You could have monkey pocks getting

1083
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:58,079
loose and then they say the Russians did it, and

1084
01:29:58,199 --> 01:29:59,600
then this collapses the economy.

1085
01:29:59,680 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 18: You see.

1086
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 6: So all of these things are possible because we're ruled

1087
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:13,680
by very nasty, insane, mad scientists, corrupt people, and they

1088
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,439
have absolutely no regard for human life. They do not

1089
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,359
care about you at all. They in fact would like

1090
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:32,680
probably for most humans to be deepop. So there we go.

1091
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:38,520
So the question then is how do we get here?

1092
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,279
So now we see where we're at, we see the possibilities,

1093
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:45,399
how do we fight? Well, I would say, get out

1094
01:30:45,399 --> 01:30:47,119
of these big blue cities. So we talk about this

1095
01:30:47,119 --> 01:30:50,000
all the time. What's the solutions? Get out of these

1096
01:30:50,039 --> 01:30:54,119
big blue cities if you can. I don't think we

1097
01:30:54,239 --> 01:30:57,039
have to try to leave the country. I mean, you

1098
01:30:57,079 --> 01:31:01,279
guys have heard this crazy capital game bill that she wants,

1099
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,479
and I keep hearing conflicting things because they say, oh,

1100
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:11,960
kamal unism. Kamala's capital gains tax is only for those

1101
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:30,680
with like an over one hundred million. But you see,

1102
01:31:31,119 --> 01:31:34,199
you can't trust these websites because they'll lie about what

1103
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:38,119
her actual policy is. By the way, hey, if you

1104
01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:42,479
notice her policy changes from day to day, New York

1105
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:46,039
itself will face a forty three percent capital gains tax.

1106
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:50,039
We're getting into like France levels of socialism here with us.

1107
01:31:50,119 --> 01:31:55,199
This is crazy. So they I heard, oh, seventy percent

1108
01:31:55,399 --> 01:31:58,600
if it's on above one hundred million. You know what's

1109
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:00,960
funny is that how comes she doesn't just have her

1110
01:32:01,079 --> 01:32:03,199
policies on a website, you know what I mean, Like,

1111
01:32:04,119 --> 01:32:06,479
why wouldn't you put your policies on a website? Well,

1112
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,159
I think one reason she doesn't do that is that

1113
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,319
she doesn't want you to actually know because her policy

1114
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:16,479
literally changes from day to day. She just literally says

1115
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:21,039
whatever she wants in front of an audience. So like

1116
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:24,479
there's not even a reliable place to see what her

1117
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:28,000
actual capital gains plans are because I don't think she

1118
01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:32,000
wants it. Bernie Sanders criticized it. Well, if Bernie Sanders

1119
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:36,920
criticizing your socialism, why am I seeing twenty eight percent?

1120
01:32:37,079 --> 01:32:39,880
Because literally, like two weeks ago, it was seventy percent,

1121
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:44,159
So where's this twenty eight coming from? Even twenty eight

1122
01:32:44,279 --> 01:32:53,920
is crazy? Yeah, it'll destroy housing, that's absolutely correct. I

1123
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:57,319
mean this will destroy the economy. Like if she brings

1124
01:32:57,359 --> 01:33:00,720
a seventy percent capital gains tax or even a twenty

1125
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:06,039
eight percent an unrealized gains, do you understand how crazy

1126
01:33:06,119 --> 01:33:11,319
that is? That's insane. That's that will destroy the economy,

1127
01:33:11,319 --> 01:33:14,079
And how would you even enforce that. So if I

1128
01:33:14,199 --> 01:33:18,600
bought a house five years ago and I bought it

1129
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:20,880
for two hundred thousand dollars, and it's worth four hundred

1130
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:24,520
thousand dollars I owe the government two hundred thousand dollars.

1131
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:30,800
I would have to sell the house to pay the

1132
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:36,479
unrealized capital gains. And if everyone in the country has

1133
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:39,000
to do that, no one would be able to afford

1134
01:33:39,399 --> 01:33:42,359
selling and buying anything the whole country. This is so crazy,

1135
01:33:42,399 --> 01:33:52,399
the country would collapse. That's literally insane. And then there's

1136
01:33:52,399 --> 01:33:54,920
all these websites. She's not going to do the No,

1137
01:33:55,279 --> 01:34:00,720
she's not, but you can't find an actual clear statement

1138
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:02,640
as to what she actually wants and what she actually

1139
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:13,439
will do. Kamala plans to raise corporate tax to thirty

1140
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:20,199
five percent. She wants a forty five percent long term

1141
01:34:20,279 --> 01:34:23,199
capital gains tax, highest since nineteen twenty two.

1142
01:34:29,039 --> 01:34:29,159
Speaker 18: Uh.

1143
01:34:29,239 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, you could argue that the point oh

1144
01:34:32,079 --> 01:34:34,039
one percent could afford it, But the problem is that

1145
01:34:34,199 --> 01:34:37,479
if everybody has to do this, there's like, there's not

1146
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:42,079
enough one point oh one percent to actually buy everyone

1147
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:44,359
selling their houses. Do you see what I'm saying? If

1148
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:46,720
two hundred million Americans have to put their house up

1149
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:50,279
for sale or their property, the assets that have gained

1150
01:34:51,039 --> 01:34:54,039
and by the way, it's not just houses. If I

1151
01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:58,840
bought an antique car. Yeah, it'll it'll just really it

1152
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:05,600
literally collapse the co tree like there's no I mean,

1153
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:07,920
i'd be I'd be thinking about running down there to

1154
01:35:08,199 --> 01:35:12,479
them Mosquito Coast with that with Tristan. Right, I'm run

1155
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:16,600
down there with Harrison Ford and Tristan or to damn

1156
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:19,640
Mosquito Coast or something. That'd be time to leave the

1157
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:23,600
country anyway. I don't actually think there is even a

1158
01:35:24,079 --> 01:35:27,079
there's not a real there's no place where you can

1159
01:35:27,159 --> 01:35:29,520
go read Kamala's policies.

1160
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 2: Is there.

1161
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:43,399
Speaker 6: What's her platform? Kamala's platform, I bet you her platform

1162
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,039
is just a bunch of bull like just like slogan

1163
01:35:46,079 --> 01:35:58,720
air bullshit. Oh, she want to cut taxes under her

1164
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:03,840
So here's her official plan says long term capital gains

1165
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:08,640
is for those earning a million dollars a year or more.

1166
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:15,239
So this is any small business owner basically twenty eight percent.

1167
01:36:21,199 --> 01:36:25,720
So this is basically just socialism. And that's because her

1168
01:36:26,279 --> 01:36:29,079
idiot followers think that a person with a million dollars

1169
01:36:29,159 --> 01:36:32,359
is rich when that's the person who basically runs the

1170
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:38,159
small business that you work at. So this means more

1171
01:36:38,239 --> 01:36:41,640
consolidation and everything being at Walmart and Target, and Amazon

1172
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:45,439
and you lose your job. So this will destroy even

1173
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:50,880
more what kof destroyed of the middle class. Make rent

1174
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,640
more affordable. How is the federal government going to make

1175
01:36:53,720 --> 01:37:00,720
people make rent affordable? This is so ridiculous. She will

1176
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:03,840
provide first time home buyers with twenty five thousand dollars

1177
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,960
from where Where does this twenty five thousand dollars from

1178
01:37:08,039 --> 01:37:14,119
Kamala come from? Oh, it's from the taxpayers socialism. So

1179
01:37:14,279 --> 01:37:19,000
Kamala is going to take from the tax paying part

1180
01:37:19,039 --> 01:37:22,479
of the country and give it to first time home

1181
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:27,119
buyers which means people from people from El savad or

1182
01:37:27,199 --> 01:37:34,279
Ecuador HATI in other words, new visitors to America. You

1183
01:37:34,359 --> 01:37:41,680
know what I mean? Take on bad actors. What does

1184
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,399
that mean? She's going to go after b movies. She

1185
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:48,199
will take on big pharma to lower drug costs. This

1186
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:52,319
is repeating what Donald Trump did in his first term.

1187
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:56,159
So this is just a borrowed from Donald Trump, who

1188
01:37:56,319 --> 01:37:59,119
in the right mind believes that Kamala is going to

1189
01:37:59,199 --> 01:38:03,000
take on big farm Are you kidding? Like the Democrats

1190
01:38:03,039 --> 01:38:10,720
are literally owned by big pharma. What else is Kamala

1191
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:16,600
gonna do? Trump's Project twenty twenty five? Trump isn't part

1192
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:20,359
of this, which is unfortunate. So this isn't even true.

1193
01:38:22,279 --> 01:38:25,520
Trump should have been part of that. The only way

1194
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:28,920
out of this is something like this, going in the

1195
01:38:29,039 --> 01:38:31,520
direction of twenty twenty five. I mean, this country will

1196
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:36,439
collapse if we don't go in that direction. The blue

1197
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:39,119
haired freaks and their zillion dollar backers are going to

1198
01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:45,800
destroy this country. Affordable education in other words, sending your

1199
01:38:46,199 --> 01:38:50,359
offspring to be made into blue haired freaks at the university.

1200
01:38:52,039 --> 01:38:55,359
So student debt relief, so basically more socialism where people

1201
01:38:55,399 --> 01:38:59,439
who are tricked into going to universities to get brainwashed

1202
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:01,960
then have to pay two hundred thousand dollars for their

1203
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:06,840
brainwashing sessions for four years, and then Kamala will tax

1204
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:10,319
the rest of the country to forgive their debts. So

1205
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:20,000
socialism social low energy through climate crisis. So she wants

1206
01:39:20,079 --> 01:39:22,960
to join us to the COP twenty eight agenda stuff,

1207
01:39:24,079 --> 01:39:28,600
and that's going to make the climate fix. The temperatures

1208
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:35,840
will go down by what by green energy and sustainability.

1209
01:39:37,079 --> 01:39:39,479
All of this green energy and sustainability actually is way

1210
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:44,800
more expensive, which will mean that everything goes up for you.

1211
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:48,880
So literally, like every policy that we've looked at from

1212
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:52,399
her is just a form of socialism, a form of

1213
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:55,920
further destroying the country. By the way, do you notice

1214
01:39:56,039 --> 01:39:58,880
so she cares about workers. Is there anything about the borders.

1215
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,640
Do you see anything about borders here? Because that might

1216
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:13,680
have something to do with defending the country and the workers. Interesting,

1217
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:15,840
so like the number one threat to the country, and

1218
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:24,119
there's no mention of that here. But of course there's

1219
01:40:24,119 --> 01:40:29,720
going to be abrations for your art hold daughters here. Okay,

1220
01:40:32,119 --> 01:40:35,560
make our communities safe from gun violence. Okay, so get

1221
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:39,119
rid of the guns. And then she put Trump's twenty

1222
01:40:39,239 --> 01:40:44,159
twenty five agenda again. Okay, where let's see she put

1223
01:40:44,199 --> 01:40:46,199
it on the She put it on here three times,

1224
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:57,680
stand up to dictators. It's like this is written by

1225
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:03,279
like a fifth grader or something. Uh So, her actual

1226
01:41:03,399 --> 01:41:12,199
policies are basically just socialism and Trump's bad. Okay, So

1227
01:41:12,319 --> 01:41:20,520
there's that. If you want to support the show, you

1228
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:27,600
can do so via stream labs. The stream labs link

1229
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:29,720
is how we do super chats over here. Now on

1230
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:46,239
neck Herds, we've already talked about the papacy there, like

1231
01:41:46,279 --> 01:41:47,800
how many we don't have to beat a dead horse.

1232
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:49,479
I'm not going to talk about the papacy all day,

1233
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:54,399
Like I have been telling you guys that Francis is

1234
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:58,600
a ridiculous person since he became pope. In fact, you

1235
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:00,800
want to know what The first review I ever did

1236
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,600
was on the internet, The first and the first one

1237
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:09,000
I got paid for. The first podcast was with I'm

1238
01:42:09,039 --> 01:42:12,279
not even going to say the ridiculous person, but it

1239
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:16,199
was on the election of Pope Francis. It was right

1240
01:42:16,239 --> 01:42:22,000
after Francis was elected. That was my very first online

1241
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:26,000
It was an online conference and I got paid like

1242
01:42:26,039 --> 01:42:27,520
two hundred dollars for I thought it was like hot

1243
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,920
shit forgetting two hundred dollars for doing an online conference.

1244
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:35,039
And I did a breakdown of Francis. So let's see

1245
01:42:35,159 --> 01:42:37,039
exactly when that was, because then I can tell you

1246
01:42:37,079 --> 01:42:43,840
exactly how long I've been doing Internet stuff, like public

1247
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,319
audio stuff. I mean, I was doing writing articles before this,

1248
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,279
but my first like twenty thirteen. So my first public

1249
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:54,239
internet conference lecture that I got paid for was twenty thirteen,

1250
01:42:54,359 --> 01:43:01,239
and I talked about Francis and his background. So so

1251
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:05,560
what is this twenty twenty four, twenty four, So this

1252
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:09,640
is eleven years of public talking, not talking about writing

1253
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:12,159
articles to public public yapping.

1254
01:43:16,359 --> 01:43:17,119
Speaker 2: How do we get here?

1255
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,319
Speaker 6: So we talked about all this stuff. One thing we

1256
01:43:21,399 --> 01:43:24,079
haven't gone through is some of the classic books that

1257
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:27,680
you guys know in the audience. But that may be

1258
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:31,039
some of the newcomers because heck, in the last month

1259
01:43:32,359 --> 01:43:34,560
I've got because of the debates and stuff, there's seven

1260
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:38,359
thousand new new followers over here just in the last month,

1261
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,359
which is which is larger than I usually get in money.

1262
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,119
Usually I get like two thousand a month, but this

1263
01:43:44,239 --> 01:43:47,319
month we have over here seven thousand. By the way, guys,

1264
01:43:47,359 --> 01:43:49,279
if you don't follow me on Twitter, please do, because

1265
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:53,119
we're gradually I think in the next best case scenario,

1266
01:43:53,119 --> 01:43:57,359
the next a couple of months, I could hit one

1267
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:59,760
hundred thousand on Twitter. So that will be a party.

1268
01:44:00,039 --> 01:44:03,319
Libration will have one hundred thousand k on Twitter party.

1269
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:06,079
There's my Twitter. If you don't follow me, be sure

1270
01:44:06,119 --> 01:44:09,239
to follow me there and help me get to hunter k.

1271
01:44:09,359 --> 01:44:11,359
We'll have our one hundred k Twitter party over here

1272
01:44:12,359 --> 01:44:15,840
and we'll recap all the great highlights and moments. I

1273
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:17,760
also want to kind of talk about this because I'm

1274
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,359
seeing this pop up a lot more. Certainly a TikTok

1275
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:23,159
is pushing this trend. In the algorithm. Have you heard

1276
01:44:23,159 --> 01:44:28,039
of this deconstruction thing, deconstructing my Christianity? It seems to

1277
01:44:28,119 --> 01:44:33,399
be very popular amongst Evangelicals, and I don't know exactly

1278
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:40,399
understand what this is. It's most of these people become atheists,

1279
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:44,319
but they go through what they call the deconstruction of

1280
01:44:44,319 --> 01:44:49,880
their Christianity. I first heard this from a Lutheran doing

1281
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:55,119
some Skittles podcast a few years ago, and he was

1282
01:44:56,079 --> 01:44:59,399
talking about deconstructing his faith. Once I went through the

1283
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:03,720
process of my deconstruction, I understood that what I believed

1284
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,560
really made no sense. And I'm like, what is this Deacons?

1285
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:11,359
Are they talking about Jacques Deidah and deconstructionism. I'm assuming

1286
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:15,920
it has some reference to deconstructionism. Now none of these

1287
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:19,119
people know what that is. Uh So I wanted to

1288
01:45:19,279 --> 01:45:21,600
since this has been popping up everywhere suddenly, and by

1289
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:25,199
the way, you'll notice, algorithms feed you stuff to influence you.

1290
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,079
So out of nowhere, I typed in my name just

1291
01:45:29,159 --> 01:45:31,119
to see what was going on on TikTok because I'm

1292
01:45:31,119 --> 01:45:32,279
not over here a whole lot. I don't have a

1293
01:45:32,359 --> 01:45:35,960
huge TikTok following, but I typed in to see what

1294
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:38,680
would come up when you put in my name and

1295
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:41,720
you start getting deconstructing my Christianity videos. When you typed

1296
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:43,199
in my name, I was like, Wow, this is crazy.

1297
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:49,279
So the algorithm is feeding anti Christian and pro atheist

1298
01:45:49,279 --> 01:45:52,520
stuff to people that click my name. So I wanted

1299
01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:54,359
to let's see what this is, because I still don't

1300
01:45:54,359 --> 01:45:56,239
really understand what they mean.

1301
01:45:58,039 --> 01:46:00,039
Speaker 29: Whether or not I wanted to talk about this. I

1302
01:46:00,039 --> 01:46:01,960
made a video saying that I go to church basically

1303
01:46:02,039 --> 01:46:04,159
because of the routine, and that's one hundred percent what

1304
01:46:04,279 --> 01:46:05,680
it is for me at this point, but even go

1305
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:07,760
so far as to say it is tradition for me

1306
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:09,520
in my life, and it's one that I choose to

1307
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:12,039
honor because it's something that I enjoy in value. I

1308
01:46:12,079 --> 01:46:15,199
guess I've been properly deconstructing my faith for the last

1309
01:46:15,359 --> 01:46:16,680
like three years or so.

1310
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 7: It was baptized when I was eight, and I was

1311
01:46:19,079 --> 01:46:21,319
really fistian. I can't I'm injured.

1312
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 29: I was pretty deep into it up until I was

1313
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:26,640
like twenty one, twenty two, but even throughout that entire time,

1314
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,640
it was like a cycle being super convinced and then

1315
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,199
questioning kind of everything. So one of the threads that

1316
01:46:32,239 --> 01:46:34,960
I've always been pulling out as far as Christianity goes

1317
01:46:35,399 --> 01:46:38,359
is heaven and Hell and the idea of eternity is over.

1318
01:46:38,279 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 7: The course of my experience.

1319
01:46:41,039 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 6: Do they just be in questioning what the position is?

1320
01:46:44,079 --> 01:46:47,880
Because I think everybody questions their positions at times, and

1321
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,960
we all go through a process of, you know, thinking

1322
01:46:51,039 --> 01:46:53,359
through why do I believe it? Do I have good reasons?

1323
01:46:53,399 --> 01:46:54,119
What if I'm wrong?

1324
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:55,600
Speaker 1: Uh?

1325
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 6: But I don't understand why they're using this term of

1326
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:01,319
deconstructing my faith. It's I think like the algorithm or

1327
01:47:01,399 --> 01:47:04,159
social engineers will put stuff out and then people will

1328
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:08,479
do this feedback loop where they repeat it and they

1329
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:10,880
think that this is like some sophisticated thing, and it's

1330
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,880
like you're just being trained to do this, But why

1331
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:16,479
are you calling it deconstructing my faith?

1332
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:16,760
Speaker 28: Now?

1333
01:47:17,399 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 6: I don't trust the TikTok algorithm, but you know, as

1334
01:47:20,039 --> 01:47:22,199
you guys know, it will say stuff like, oh, this

1335
01:47:22,319 --> 01:47:24,479
has a million views, this has three million views.

1336
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:26,119
Speaker 7: Right, it's with faith and religion.

1337
01:47:26,239 --> 01:47:29,079
Speaker 29: I would say I was much more, much more convicted

1338
01:47:29,279 --> 01:47:31,960
than I was convinced, so I would ride the wave

1339
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:34,439
of feeling very convicted.

1340
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 6: About fail Notice it's riding waves of feelings. Evangelicalism typically

1341
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:41,840
is based on feelings, and that's why when you start

1342
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:44,239
to not feel it, you decide that, oh, well, God

1343
01:47:44,239 --> 01:47:45,520
doesn't exist and I don't feel.

1344
01:47:45,279 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 29: It anymore, usually as a result of like church camp

1345
01:47:49,119 --> 01:47:52,319
or like a specific sermon or conversation.

1346
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,159
Speaker 6: With someone that I found how long have we been

1347
01:47:54,239 --> 01:47:57,560
saying like this evangelical stuff is like atheism factory right.

1348
01:47:58,039 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 7: Very convicting. Then it would always come back around to

1349
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,439
the fact that I wasn't really convinced about the.

1350
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 29: Things that I think you need to be convinced about

1351
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,880
in order to really do Christianity, and Heaven and Hell

1352
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:09,760
is one of the big ones. What I was convinced

1353
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:12,680
about was that I was a deeply sinful person who

1354
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:14,800
felt a lot of shame and then a lot of

1355
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:18,239
anxiety about my shame and how deeply sinful I am,

1356
01:48:18,359 --> 01:48:20,439
and that I needed to be saved. And that's when

1357
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:22,960
I would start grasping and then get back.

1358
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 7: To that convicted phase. Something I've this is.

1359
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:31,199
Speaker 6: Interesting because I do think in evangelicalism especially and in

1360
01:48:31,239 --> 01:48:32,960
the whole you know, the whole tradition of like the

1361
01:48:33,079 --> 01:48:36,319
Protestant Revival, preacher and the tent preacher and all this

1362
01:48:36,399 --> 01:48:39,359
kind of stuff, Like, it's very much based around a

1363
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:42,720
lot of psychological manipulation. Now, I don't think that every

1364
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:49,239
aspect or instance of feeling wrong or your conscience convicting

1365
01:48:49,319 --> 01:48:53,600
you means that you're being manipulated. But certainly revival preachers

1366
01:48:54,079 --> 01:48:58,199
preachers in general, especially in the evangelical sphere, they know

1367
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:01,359
and have perfected a lot of time techniques of human

1368
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:05,960
psychological manipulation. And you can watch the Margo documentary to

1369
01:49:06,039 --> 01:49:07,760
see that in one case of a con man who

1370
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:08,880
admitted to doing.

1371
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:10,399
Speaker 5: It, But.

1372
01:49:12,239 --> 01:49:14,279
Speaker 6: It's not like he's the only con man that does that.

1373
01:49:14,359 --> 01:49:16,319
I mean you could, you could. You could conceivably be

1374
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:19,560
an evangelical preacher who believes what he's doing and uses

1375
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:24,399
manipulation tactics. Right, So it's not restricted to only con men.

1376
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:27,560
There's a lot of this going on, I think in

1377
01:49:28,079 --> 01:49:29,880
the order. I mean, this could happen in the Orthodox world.

1378
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:32,880
You could have an abusive priest or he's a manipulative sure,

1379
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:38,319
but these things can happen anywhere and everywhere. But I

1380
01:49:38,399 --> 01:49:42,479
do think they're more prevalent in the world of evangelicalism

1381
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:48,359
because so much of that is based on subjective feelings, experience,

1382
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:55,560
and not on external objective doctrines, history, dogma, et cetera.

1383
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,279
If it's all based on like the subjective, you're gonna

1384
01:49:59,279 --> 01:50:00,840
get this kind of a situation going.

1385
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:05,359
Speaker 29: Realizing is that I've been deconstructing, is that a lot

1386
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:07,920
of the shame and anxiety that I still struggle with

1387
01:50:08,039 --> 01:50:11,680
today is largely due to the fact.

1388
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:16,239
Speaker 7: That I was convinced that I needed to be safe

1389
01:50:16,359 --> 01:50:18,239
and that I am not good enough. I was not

1390
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:21,359
born good enough. I will never be good enough without

1391
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:21,960
this thing.

1392
01:50:22,199 --> 01:50:24,560
Speaker 29: My ideas around eternity have changed a lot and been

1393
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:26,880
influenced in a really positive way by some of the

1394
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,039
things that have helped me along my deconstruction, which I'd

1395
01:50:29,079 --> 01:50:30,880
like to point out, and I heard this on podcasts recently,

1396
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:34,399
which I will reference soon. The deconstruction part is important,

1397
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:37,680
but ultimately my goal is to reconstruct, to get rid

1398
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:41,079
of the beliefs that are actually really damaging, not only

1399
01:50:41,159 --> 01:50:42,920
to me but to other people. And then, a big

1400
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,319
thing that I have always grappled with is the idea

1401
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:47,560
that homosexuality is oh.

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Speaker 6: Here we go, okay, so here it's the skuttles stuff.

1403
01:50:51,239 --> 01:50:53,520
She doesn't want to accept that Skuttles is wrong.

1404
01:50:54,359 --> 01:50:55,560
Speaker 2: And this other guy.

1405
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:57,760
Speaker 6: He says, Oh, I've been listening to these podcasts about

1406
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:00,039
deconstructing this guy.

1407
01:51:00,399 --> 01:51:03,640
Speaker 30: Hey, did you know that Christians who deconstruct have abandoned

1408
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:06,800
the authority of God and made themselves their own authority,

1409
01:51:07,039 --> 01:51:10,319
essentially becoming their own God. You may have heard that before.

1410
01:51:11,039 --> 01:51:13,600
I definitely have, because I used to think it and

1411
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:17,319
I used to say it, that is, until I deconstructed.

1412
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:19,720
I may have put it a little less harshly and

1413
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,840
said something like, you're leaning on your own understanding instead

1414
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:26,840
of leaning on God, but the implication was clear. These

1415
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:31,880
people who deconstructed were pridefully trusting themselves rather than trusting God. Oh,

1416
01:51:32,039 --> 01:51:34,479
of course I see things differently now. I don't speak

1417
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:38,439
for everyone who's deconstructed or is deconstructing, but I do

1418
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:40,960
think that it's helpful because there's so much talk about it,

1419
01:51:41,319 --> 01:51:43,920
to hear from somebody who's sort of been through the process,

1420
01:51:45,079 --> 01:51:47,479
because I think we can all understand one another a

1421
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:50,399
little bit better. My deconstruction didn't start with the decision

1422
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:54,000
to lean on my own understanding, and honestly, it felt

1423
01:51:54,039 --> 01:51:55,279
a lot like the opposite of that.

1424
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:56,680
Speaker 18: When I was a Christian.

1425
01:51:57,000 --> 01:51:58,399
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time making.

1426
01:51:58,239 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 30: Sure that what I believe was true, and that usually

1427
01:52:01,079 --> 01:52:04,079
meant going to sources that had arguments that supported what

1428
01:52:04,199 --> 01:52:05,039
I already believed.

1429
01:52:05,359 --> 01:52:07,119
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna play this guy's whole video because I

1430
01:52:07,239 --> 01:52:09,560
listened to it earlier, and basically he just spends four

1431
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:14,199
minutes saying that how do I know to trust evangelical

1432
01:52:14,279 --> 01:52:17,880
scholars or atheist scholars? And he said, at the end

1433
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:20,520
of the day, I'm just trusting scholars. And then he said,

1434
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:22,960
why don't I just trust myself or you know, something

1435
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,920
like that. He says, I've been listening to podcasts. What

1436
01:52:26,039 --> 01:52:28,359
are the what are the deconstruction podcasts?

1437
01:52:29,159 --> 01:52:32,720
Speaker 31: I remember the exact moment that I stopped believing in God,

1438
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:35,960
And that might be kind of unusual, I imagine for

1439
01:52:36,239 --> 01:52:40,840
most people. You know, it's this thing that happens over time.

1440
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:44,720
And while things did change for me over time.

1441
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:48,039
Speaker 32: There was just this like specific, exact moment that I

1442
01:52:48,119 --> 01:52:50,800
can point to a little bit of background.

1443
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:53,079
Speaker 26: This was when I was in graduate school.

1444
01:52:54,159 --> 01:52:57,239
Speaker 32: I had gone to a Christian college for undergrad.

1445
01:52:57,000 --> 01:53:04,239
Speaker 6: Notice it's almost always evangelic people that are presented with

1446
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:09,239
probably terrible evangelical arguments, replies in theology, and then they

1447
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:12,920
as how long I've been saying it's it's atheism factory.

1448
01:53:13,159 --> 01:53:15,760
Clown church is atheism factory. I mean we've been saying

1449
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:20,119
this for like ten years. So I'm assuming that's where

1450
01:53:20,159 --> 01:53:20,720
this is going.

1451
01:53:21,039 --> 01:53:29,319
Speaker 28: But let's see, rounded by a lot of Christians who

1452
01:53:29,399 --> 01:53:32,840
were charismatic or pentecoster, there we go.

1453
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:40,359
Speaker 6: So feelings based, charismatic, gibberish, nonsense church, and that's what

1454
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:42,119
she's surrounded by. I bet you she went to some

1455
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:48,319
like freaking who's that TV? Some like TV preacher school,

1456
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:55,880
like who's that guy that had a big university Oral Roberts, Right,

1457
01:53:55,920 --> 01:54:00,319
she probably wanted to like Oral Roberts university, lot.

1458
01:54:00,239 --> 01:54:05,800
Speaker 31: Of speaking tongues, doing miracles, giving prophecies.

1459
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:08,399
Speaker 6: And being well, yeah, once you figure out that all

1460
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:12,239
that stuff is bunk, then if you think of Christianity

1461
01:54:12,279 --> 01:54:14,479
as that, and then you realize none of these people

1462
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:16,600
are predicting the future, they're not doing miracles. They're rolling

1463
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:19,159
around acting like idiots and barking like dogs and giggling,

1464
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:22,680
thinking that that's worshiping God. Then it's like I'm out

1465
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:22,880
of here.

1466
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:26,239
Speaker 32: Bro surrounded by that made me feel like I was

1467
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:28,800
really part of something exciting that.

1468
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:30,520
Speaker 26: Like God's doing good work.

1469
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:35,159
Speaker 6: But interestingly I was God's a concert, bro, God's like

1470
01:54:35,279 --> 01:54:35,880
a concert.

1471
01:54:36,239 --> 01:54:39,239
Speaker 31: Never the one who actually did those things.

1472
01:54:39,319 --> 01:54:41,439
Speaker 26: I was just sort of adjacent to it.

1473
01:54:42,319 --> 01:54:45,279
Speaker 31: So I get to grad school, no one has any

1474
01:54:45,359 --> 01:54:45,880
idea what.

1475
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 32: I'm talking about with any of those things. I'm a

1476
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:52,560
total weirdo, and so I spend more and more time

1477
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:52,960
kind of.

1478
01:54:53,039 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 21: Isolated, just trying so hard to kind of catch up

1479
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:05,079
to where my college friends were. I really wanted God

1480
01:55:05,199 --> 01:55:09,119
to like show up to do some miracles, like all

1481
01:55:09,159 --> 01:55:10,359
my friends had seen.

1482
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:14,079
Speaker 6: They told me, yeah, but none of that charismatic stuff

1483
01:55:14,199 --> 01:55:17,279
is legit. There were no there weren't. There weren't miracles

1484
01:55:17,359 --> 01:55:20,399
in the Pentecostal churches. It's all people hyped up on

1485
01:55:20,439 --> 01:55:23,520
their motion and deceiving themselves, and that's why it leaves

1486
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:24,239
everybody empty.

1487
01:55:26,039 --> 01:55:29,640
Speaker 24: I get asked a lot about deconstruction, especially when people

1488
01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:33,680
find out that I deconstructed before deconstruction was even a term.

1489
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 6: Oh, like this gen next, it was way ahead everybody.

1490
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:40,079
He was like sohad like he was into deconstruction before

1491
01:55:40,159 --> 01:55:42,880
their first like before you even even had their first CD.

1492
01:55:43,159 --> 01:55:46,880
Like he was following Deconstruction, bro, like before you were even,

1493
01:55:47,279 --> 01:55:49,960
like when you were in diapers, like I was at

1494
01:55:50,119 --> 01:55:53,560
the Deconstruction show at the exit in in Nashville, bro,

1495
01:55:54,039 --> 01:55:57,119
Like they were playing live, Like I felt their sweat

1496
01:55:57,239 --> 01:55:59,600
dripping on me when they were live before you were

1497
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:01,960
even a bro like, comes way out of.

1498
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:07,359
Speaker 24: You nineties and came back to the faith twenty years

1499
01:56:07,439 --> 01:56:10,279
later becoming a pastor And oh shit, but in coming back,

1500
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:13,960
I was the pastor the establishment did not really like

1501
01:56:14,319 --> 01:56:16,800
because I am far less worried about.

1502
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:19,159
Speaker 6: Those I'm like so hip and cool, bro Like, this

1503
01:56:19,319 --> 01:56:22,079
establishment didn't like me as a pastor or whatever.

1504
01:56:22,239 --> 01:56:27,399
Speaker 33: So like, come to my church, bro, we questioned God

1505
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:31,039
doubt or are in the midst of deconstructing from the

1506
01:56:31,199 --> 01:56:34,680
American style performance based church system.

1507
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:35,680
Speaker 5: And let's be real.

1508
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:36,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, faith is a journey.

1509
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:38,159
Speaker 1: It's not a static destination.

1510
01:56:38,359 --> 01:56:40,720
Speaker 6: And Okay, we're ex Christians.

1511
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 34: Of course we're going to speak about something we dedicated

1512
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,800
years of our lives to. We're ex Christians. We love

1513
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:47,960
the believer, we're just not too fond of the belief.

1514
01:56:48,319 --> 01:56:49,239
Speaker 1: We're ex Christians.

1515
01:56:50,319 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 2: Open.

1516
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:54,680
Speaker 6: I hate these TikTok style videos where people are like

1517
01:56:54,840 --> 01:56:57,600
talking to themselves like they're alternate, like they've got alters,

1518
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:00,840
and or they're like dissociating, and it's this is so

1519
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:02,479
lame and go back, even if.

1520
01:57:02,399 --> 01:57:02,840
Speaker 2: We wanted to.

1521
01:57:03,319 --> 01:57:05,920
Speaker 34: We're ex Christians. We're not mocking your religion. We're just

1522
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:07,159
pointing out the flaws within it.

1523
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:10,159
Speaker 6: Okay, where's the I want to know what deconstruction is explained?

1524
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:13,560
Speaker 26: Deconstructed Christians. When you as a child, we're scared of

1525
01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:14,800
the boogeyman under your bed.

1526
01:57:15,119 --> 01:57:21,239
Speaker 35: We were scared of eternal damnation. And hell, we're deconstructed Christians.

1527
01:57:21,399 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 36: We get accused all the time of not being real

1528
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:31,399
Christians just because we we're deconstructed the hell. Hi, welcome

1529
01:57:31,439 --> 01:57:33,880
back to my series reasons why I no longer identify

1530
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:35,720
as Christian and buckle up because this one is going

1531
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:36,319
to be a doozy.

1532
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 37: I'm gonna ruffle.

1533
01:57:39,399 --> 01:57:41,159
Speaker 6: See if you touch this thing it starts over.

1534
01:57:41,479 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 37: Hi, welcome back to my serious reasons why I no

1535
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:46,079
longer identify as Christian and buckle up because this one

1536
01:57:46,119 --> 01:57:48,239
is going to be a doozy. I'm gonna ruffle a

1537
01:57:48,319 --> 01:57:49,479
lot of feathers with this one.

1538
01:57:50,239 --> 01:57:55,680
Speaker 6: So edgy, Like, what how where is this edgy? I?

1539
01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:58,119
Don't understand, like, literally the whole country is basically a

1540
01:57:58,199 --> 01:58:01,720
bunch of Satanic pagans, So how is this even edgy?

1541
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:04,880
Speaker 15: Like ruffled feathers.

1542
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:08,039
Speaker 37: I was on the phone with my friend the other

1543
01:58:08,159 --> 01:58:10,239
day and they said to me, you know, I'm really

1544
01:58:10,279 --> 01:58:13,520
surprised that you're, you know, still so passionate about deconstruction

1545
01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:16,880
because you've been on this journey for years. Personally, I

1546
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:21,079
believe one's deconstruction journey, especially with indoctrination, never really ends. However,

1547
01:58:21,279 --> 01:58:23,439
like I'm just as passionate but about it. When I

1548
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:24,119
started as.

1549
01:58:24,039 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 6: I am, now, yeah, why are they calling it this?

1550
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:28,359
Who came up with this term?

1551
01:58:28,479 --> 01:58:28,520
Speaker 28: That?

1552
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:31,079
Speaker 6: Suddenly all of these people repeat and pair it like

1553
01:58:31,199 --> 01:58:33,439
my controlled slaves? I don't understand where this comes from.

1554
01:58:33,479 --> 01:58:35,479
And they asked, does anyone that chat know where this

1555
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:38,800
is coming from? I mean, clearly it's evolving out of

1556
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:43,159
the Protestant sphere because I only hear the ex evangelicals

1557
01:58:43,199 --> 01:58:48,039
saying this. But there had to be some podcast because

1558
01:58:48,039 --> 01:58:51,479
they all say, I was listening to podcasts, so where's

1559
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:52,159
this coming from?

1560
01:58:53,199 --> 01:58:55,920
Speaker 37: And instantly I made the connection and I had never

1561
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:59,840
really thought about it before. The Evangelical church taught me

1562
01:59:00,079 --> 01:59:02,880
that I was a victim. They taught me that I

1563
01:59:03,199 --> 01:59:07,199
was persecuted, and to be joyful that I was persecuted.

1564
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:11,000
They taught me that my persecution and my oppression made me.

1565
01:59:11,079 --> 01:59:11,920
Speaker 38: Closer to God.

1566
01:59:12,479 --> 01:59:14,920
Speaker 37: It validated that I was chosen and I was doing

1567
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:18,319
something right. But then I grew up and I realized

1568
01:59:18,319 --> 01:59:20,680
that the religion that I was a part of was

1569
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:25,039
the oppressor in this country, and that messed me up

1570
01:59:25,479 --> 01:59:26,119
so badly.

1571
01:59:27,039 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 6: How in the world could anybody think that Christianity is

1572
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:37,479
the oppressor in America, which America is basically anti Christian,

1573
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:40,920
post Christian at this point, So like, how are you

1574
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:44,840
getting oppressed in a post Christian Satanic country. I don't

1575
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:45,880
understand that my.

1576
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:50,279
Speaker 37: Religion upheld the system of enslaved people. My religion was

1577
01:59:50,319 --> 01:59:53,800
the reason why LGBTQ plus people could not get married

1578
01:59:54,479 --> 01:59:57,439
or walking out of the house together without getting lynched.

1579
01:59:58,439 --> 02:00:02,680
Speaker 6: Okay, so a bunch of maloney that, uh, Christianity is

1580
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:05,840
oppressing as good as people from marriage and they were

1581
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:07,760
literally gonna get lynched walking outside.

1582
02:00:08,199 --> 02:00:11,920
Speaker 39: Says Jesus will heal with you, Jesus will save you,

1583
02:00:12,640 --> 02:00:17,760
Jesus will deliver you, Jesus will set you free Jesus. Jesus,

1584
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:22,560
Jesus will Well, the truth is, and the data is,

1585
02:00:23,159 --> 02:00:26,079
and the reality is, Jesus will do none of those

1586
02:00:26,159 --> 02:00:26,680
things for you.

1587
02:00:27,359 --> 02:00:29,600
Speaker 1: If you want those things done for you, you need

1588
02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:30,640
to do it for yourself.

1589
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:38,079
Speaker 6: Well, I mean again, I can tell you. In the

1590
02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:46,199
evangelical world, like you know, they present Jesus as the

1591
02:00:46,319 --> 02:00:50,159
self help thing that like fixes your problems, right, like

1592
02:00:50,279 --> 02:00:54,439
my financial problems and my relationship problems, and Jesus my boyfriend,

1593
02:00:54,880 --> 02:00:56,640
all that stuff. The way that it's presented in this

1594
02:00:56,720 --> 02:01:02,319
whole domain again, it's really just uh, it's really just

1595
02:01:02,479 --> 02:01:07,560
the factory of atheism because God is not a self

1596
02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:10,520
help thing. And that's what I think a lot of

1597
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:14,399
these people were told that it was. And this is

1598
02:01:14,479 --> 02:01:17,680
the danger of these This is the problem with heresy.

1599
02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:23,800
Heresy and all this stuff produces these angry, bitter people

1600
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:29,199
because heresy is really an inauthentic delusion. It's not just

1601
02:01:29,359 --> 02:01:35,000
something wrong, but it promotes delusion, and it promotes the

1602
02:01:35,199 --> 02:01:38,239
false idea of what it is, and then it creates

1603
02:01:38,399 --> 02:01:41,279
all these train wrecks as a result.

1604
02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:44,359
Speaker 40: Because I moved to Los Angeles and fell victim to

1605
02:01:44,439 --> 02:01:46,960
the ways of the world, at least that's what happened,

1606
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:49,119
according to a lot of people who say this every

1607
02:01:49,199 --> 02:01:51,439
time I open my big fat mouth and talk about

1608
02:01:51,439 --> 02:01:54,479
my deconstruction on the internet, as I did recently on

1609
02:01:54,600 --> 02:02:01,800
Howie Mandel's podcast Listen, I lost my faith because I

1610
02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:05,800
moved the Los angel a long episode of my podcast

1611
02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:07,479
where I told my story in detail.

1612
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:17,000
Speaker 6: So I don't know what this keeps freezing? This sucks, Okay,

1613
02:02:17,079 --> 02:02:18,720
So where's where do we go to read.

1614
02:02:20,359 --> 02:02:23,399
Speaker 38: Real and genuine? When I say this, the book that

1615
02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:29,039
helped me deconstruct Christianity by far the most was the Bible.

1616
02:02:29,279 --> 02:02:32,960
And I mean this completely wholeheartedly, genuinely. I read the

1617
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:35,279
Bible far more now than I did when I was

1618
02:02:35,319 --> 02:02:38,399
a Christian. Learning about the different parts of the Bible,

1619
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:43,279
what types of literary tools are used in the writing

1620
02:02:43,479 --> 02:02:46,239
of different books of the Bible, Learning which parts of

1621
02:02:46,359 --> 02:02:46,760
the Bible.

1622
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:49,079
Speaker 6: You didn't learn that when you were a Christian. Maybe

1623
02:02:49,079 --> 02:02:51,000
that would have been the time to learn that, Like

1624
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:53,680
why is she learning this now that she's not a Christian?

1625
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:55,800
I mean, doesn't that itself say quite a bit right there?

1626
02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:56,039
Speaker 35: Well?

1627
02:02:56,079 --> 02:02:56,680
Speaker 1: Our letters?

1628
02:02:57,000 --> 02:03:00,560
Speaker 38: Who the letters are too? Learning which parts of learning.

1629
02:03:00,359 --> 02:03:03,840
Speaker 6: That parts of the Bible are poetry and letters. You

1630
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:04,399
didn't know that.

1631
02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:08,399
Speaker 38: I mean the Bible are poetry and use metaphorical language.

1632
02:03:08,760 --> 02:03:13,720
Looking at context for everybody's favorite weapanized Bible versus There's

1633
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:16,800
a lot of parts of the Bible that when you look.

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Speaker 6: At it, she has to be context pretty intellectual because

1635
02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:24,560
you've got gigantic glasses and you wouldn't be You wouldn't

1636
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:27,199
wear those kinds of glasses unless you were really high

1637
02:03:27,199 --> 02:03:32,319
a Q. So definitely a lot to listen to. There's

1638
02:03:32,359 --> 02:03:33,079
got to be music.

1639
02:03:33,199 --> 02:03:35,359
Speaker 41: Yes, yes, it is sorry to tell you like this,

1640
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:38,359
but but God bless you and Jesus loves you.

1641
02:03:39,159 --> 02:03:40,319
Speaker 18: It is pretty toxic.

1642
02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:42,399
Speaker 41: It's a way of letting others know that you have

1643
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:45,079
something that we don't, that we are missing out on

1644
02:03:45,159 --> 02:03:47,359
God's love, and that we need to be reminded that

1645
02:03:47,439 --> 02:03:48,000
He loves.

1646
02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:50,760
Speaker 6: Us no matter how lost we are. Why does this

1647
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:57,239
guy have a nineteen ninety eight wine mom Italian poster

1648
02:03:57,439 --> 02:03:59,880
with a cat in the background because he had his mom?

1649
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:02,279
Is this his ant's house? What's going on now?

1650
02:04:02,359 --> 02:04:04,720
Speaker 41: You think you're being kind, but in reality you're not.

1651
02:04:05,199 --> 02:04:08,079
When someone tells me that Jesus loves me, two things.

1652
02:04:07,960 --> 02:04:11,520
Speaker 6: Cross my mind. First, remember all that Tuscany dcor that

1653
02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:15,840
was popular in the nineties. Why is this atheist jamies

1654
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:18,399
in their laughing Why does this atheist dude have Tuscany decor?

1655
02:04:18,680 --> 02:04:22,279
Speaker 14: Is that sounds nuts to tell someone who doesn't believe

1656
02:04:22,279 --> 02:04:25,119
in your God, God doesn't exist, because I realize how

1657
02:04:25,159 --> 02:04:27,920
beautiful Tuscany dukor was from the nineteen nineties.

1658
02:04:28,359 --> 02:04:30,800
Speaker 6: So just a nice little body, little Kianti is all

1659
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:32,479
I need. I don't need God.

1660
02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:36,520
Speaker 41: For God, that your God loves them sounds absolutely psychotic.

1661
02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:38,560
And even after I tell you that I don't believe

1662
02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:42,279
in your uh buh imaginary friend, well, why would it

1663
02:04:42,319 --> 02:04:42,640
sounds like?

1664
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:45,199
Speaker 6: I mean, just just saying that my deity loves you

1665
02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:47,000
doesn't mean that doesn't sound psychotic.

1666
02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:52,359
Speaker 41: Imaginary friend, you follow up with Jesus loves you. Why

1667
02:04:52,399 --> 02:04:54,239
would I care what your imaginary friend.

1668
02:04:54,119 --> 02:04:58,239
Speaker 6: Thinks of this guy says he's probably the Antichrist. Dude,

1669
02:04:58,319 --> 02:04:59,279
that's so edgy, bro.

1670
02:05:01,039 --> 02:05:01,439
Speaker 1: Every there.

1671
02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:02,760
Speaker 42: My brain breaks when I think.

1672
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:04,920
Speaker 6: About, oh, she had a Whitney shirt.

1673
02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:09,760
Speaker 42: On the fact that Christianity is built off of a contradiction,

1674
02:05:10,199 --> 02:05:12,439
the same concept that got Satan kicked out of heaven.

1675
02:05:12,479 --> 02:05:14,079
Adam and Eve kicked out of the garden. Is this

1676
02:05:14,199 --> 02:05:16,720
same concept that made Christ qualify to die on the

1677
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:20,039
cross for humanity and the same concept humanity has to

1678
02:05:20,119 --> 02:05:22,760
follow to be qualified to get into fucking heaven.

1679
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:23,920
Speaker 43: Being more like God.

1680
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:26,760
Speaker 42: Now people will say, well, Satan was disobedient, but nobody

1681
02:05:26,800 --> 02:05:29,600
will ask, how did Satan have the ability to be disobedient?

1682
02:05:29,680 --> 02:05:32,800
If sin never existed in heaven and disobedience is sin,

1683
02:05:33,239 --> 02:05:36,279
That's a real question to fucking ask. Nobody ever asked

1684
02:05:36,399 --> 02:05:38,000
how was it after Adam and Eve eight.

1685
02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:39,319
Speaker 2: Of the what do you mean?

1686
02:05:39,680 --> 02:05:42,640
Speaker 6: Nobody ever asked that? That's been like? I like that

1687
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:46,399
one of the top religious theological debates in the history

1688
02:05:46,479 --> 02:05:49,319
of religion. It is like the notion of free will

1689
02:05:49,359 --> 02:05:52,239
and the existence of evil. I mean, nobody ever asked that.

1690
02:05:52,399 --> 02:05:55,399
It's pretty pretty I mean, you're MII might not agree

1691
02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:57,800
with the answers, but you're not the first person to

1692
02:05:57,880 --> 02:05:59,479
ask this fruit in the garden.

1693
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:01,960
Speaker 42: The first thing that they experienced was guilt and shame.

1694
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:03,640
When the fruit was supposed to make them like God.

1695
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:05,960
You mean to tell me this motherfucker walking around feel

1696
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:07,039
like guilty and shameful?

1697
02:06:07,159 --> 02:06:08,159
Speaker 1: Tell you Christ was perfect?

1698
02:06:08,199 --> 02:06:10,159
Speaker 42: But my question is, why does the Bible depict God's

1699
02:06:10,199 --> 02:06:13,119
perfect is being superior to Christ perfect? And if they

1700
02:06:13,119 --> 02:06:14,760
are God in three person, why didn't.

1701
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:18,479
Speaker 6: The Trinity?

1702
02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:18,680
Speaker 20: Is?

1703
02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:19,119
Speaker 5: Just like.

1704
02:06:21,199 --> 02:06:21,880
Speaker 38: My brain breaks.

1705
02:06:23,039 --> 02:06:24,880
Speaker 44: I don't know what I believe about God, but these

1706
02:06:24,920 --> 02:06:27,680
are a few things that you can't deny Christians absolutely.

1707
02:06:27,760 --> 02:06:29,800
Speaker 6: Eight The phrase let go and let God.

1708
02:06:30,279 --> 02:06:31,880
Speaker 26: You know, the first time somebody said.

1709
02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:33,960
Speaker 27: That, they were like, we write that.

1710
02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:35,600
Speaker 1: It's so good.

1711
02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:36,439
Speaker 18: It's so succinct.

1712
02:06:36,560 --> 02:06:38,720
Speaker 44: It rolls off the tongue, the alliteration. Even if you

1713
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:41,199
don't believe in God, you're gonna find yourself tempted to.

1714
02:06:41,239 --> 02:06:42,960
Speaker 6: Say, okay, need to let.

1715
02:06:42,920 --> 02:06:44,720
Speaker 15: Go, Oh my God, Yeah, it's so good.

1716
02:06:45,560 --> 02:06:48,000
Speaker 6: Right, I'm sure that I really need to listen to

1717
02:06:48,079 --> 02:06:53,319
you single mom Claire. Here about our theological religious traditions.

1718
02:06:53,319 --> 02:06:56,399
Speaker 26: There, every religion has their own form of it. Even

1719
02:06:56,479 --> 02:06:58,880
the atheists have. Like meditation, we can't deny it's so

1720
02:06:59,039 --> 02:07:01,439
good for us, and what a sea to get.

1721
02:07:01,359 --> 02:07:03,920
Speaker 6: Like older, it's like so good for us or whatever,

1722
02:07:04,479 --> 02:07:06,359
like have you ever heard of like meditation or whatever.

1723
02:07:06,359 --> 02:07:08,359
It's pretty much like pary of us. So good for us.

1724
02:07:08,920 --> 02:07:13,399
Speaker 44: Men doing a daily meditation practice love it. Number three

1725
02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:17,920
the music Hillsong Bethel so good.

1726
02:07:18,359 --> 02:07:37,920
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I'm I how would you even? You

1727
02:07:38,119 --> 02:07:43,479
have to be completely ignorant of everything? I mean, does

1728
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:49,640
nobody like deconstruction if you wanted to deconstruct, like maybe

1729
02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:52,680
think about where did the Bible come from? You Notice

1730
02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:56,039
their deconstructing is all self, it's all their own subjectives self.

1731
02:07:56,079 --> 02:07:57,520
Speaker 15: Where that gets jugged?

1732
02:07:57,520 --> 02:08:00,079
Speaker 45: When I first felt bad and had bad feelies, that

1733
02:08:00,199 --> 02:08:01,159
made me the preacher?

1734
02:08:01,279 --> 02:08:04,199
Speaker 6: And what about deconstructing and thinking about, well, where does

1735
02:08:04,239 --> 02:08:06,560
the religion come from? Because if you thought about where

1736
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:10,880
the religion came from, you would think, well, maybe Hillsong

1737
02:08:11,199 --> 02:08:14,600
is not the source of Christianity, or like maybe there

1738
02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:18,800
was something before Hillsong. But this you're seeing a window

1739
02:08:18,840 --> 02:08:21,439
into the mindset of like the normies and the average

1740
02:08:21,439 --> 02:08:24,560
people out there. I'm not meaning to be rude or arrogant,

1741
02:08:24,640 --> 02:08:26,720
but this is the mindset of most people. Is this

1742
02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:30,720
kind of stuff? I think she's trying to be funny too,

1743
02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:32,079
which is it's not actually funny.

1744
02:08:32,319 --> 02:08:34,319
Speaker 44: Oh Heaven must be real because I go there when

1745
02:08:34,359 --> 02:08:36,960
I hear the song the Blessing by Kerry Joe Five

1746
02:08:37,319 --> 02:08:42,600
Children and their Children, it's good disappointment she's.

1747
02:08:42,439 --> 02:08:45,199
Speaker 6: Trying to be funny, but in her mind like Heaven

1748
02:08:45,319 --> 02:08:47,159
is like the best pop song that year.

1749
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:51,239
Speaker 26: Heard Emotions, it feels good, number four, It feels good.

1750
02:08:52,039 --> 02:08:55,399
Speaker 6: You notice almost every evangelical that we've listened to who's

1751
02:08:55,439 --> 02:09:00,439
deconstructed has talked about how they felt and their feelings,

1752
02:09:00,680 --> 02:09:06,880
even the dudes. The word blessing.

1753
02:09:07,319 --> 02:09:10,000
Speaker 44: I know the Christians don't completely own this, but they

1754
02:09:10,079 --> 02:09:13,079
definitely don't think somebody's Christian If they say, like, oh,

1755
02:09:13,520 --> 02:09:14,159
that blessed to.

1756
02:09:14,159 --> 02:09:17,399
Speaker 1: Me, that's blessing. I think it's just such a delicate No.

1757
02:09:17,479 --> 02:09:20,439
Speaker 6: I think that they're even word that really.

1758
02:09:20,359 --> 02:09:23,279
Speaker 44: Wraps up exactly how it feels to be blessed. And

1759
02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:25,840
no matter where I am in my like faith block,

1760
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:28,079
whatever my faith, I will always.

1761
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:29,800
Speaker 46: Say that blessed me.

1762
02:09:30,039 --> 02:09:31,840
Speaker 1: This is a blessing. You're a blessing.

1763
02:09:32,359 --> 02:09:32,960
Speaker 18: It's so good.

1764
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:34,880
Speaker 6: Look at that poor baby over there. He's just like,

1765
02:09:35,600 --> 02:09:38,520
when is it's gonna end? When it's gonna end? That

1766
02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:41,840
poor baby has been tortured by his mommy's tiktoks. He

1767
02:09:41,920 --> 02:09:43,119
looks miserable.

1768
02:09:45,439 --> 02:09:48,119
Speaker 1: Because I just want the idea that I'm.

1769
02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:54,760
Speaker 2: I want someone else to.

1770
02:09:57,520 --> 02:09:59,399
Speaker 6: What is wrong. Like all of the people who are

1771
02:09:59,520 --> 02:10:03,479
twenty five an under completely losing their mind. They're completely gone.

1772
02:10:04,479 --> 02:10:07,560
She's got green hair, she's she's crying about the oppression

1773
02:10:07,600 --> 02:10:09,840
in the Bible. What is she even talking about? But

1774
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:13,439
by the way, uh, why is oppression wrong? Like on

1775
02:10:13,560 --> 02:10:16,279
what basis? I mean, I believe that oppression is wrong,

1776
02:10:16,600 --> 02:10:18,880
but I have a basis for it. So what's the

1777
02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:20,159
basis for oppression being wrong?

1778
02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:28,399
Speaker 1: I don't understand the world, guys, I don't understand.

1779
02:10:28,920 --> 02:10:30,119
Speaker 21: I don't understand any of it.

1780
02:10:30,199 --> 02:10:32,479
Speaker 7: I don't understand people that.

1781
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:36,439
Speaker 2: Everybody else is.

1782
02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:40,560
Speaker 44: Can't begin to describe to you how valid your emotions

1783
02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:42,159
and thoughts and Okay.

1784
02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:45,000
Speaker 6: But wait a minute. If nobody can tell other people

1785
02:10:45,119 --> 02:10:48,439
that they're wrong, you just told everybody that they're wrong.

1786
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:52,840
By thinking that you can tell people they're wrong, It's

1787
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:58,439
amazing how silly and foolish people are, which is probably

1788
02:10:58,439 --> 02:11:00,399
why Scripture says that the fool has said in his

1789
02:11:00,479 --> 02:11:02,880
heart there's no God. When you say that, when you

1790
02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:05,960
go in that direction, you have the appearance of wisdom

1791
02:11:06,079 --> 02:11:08,239
and insight and knowledge and reasoning and all this stuff,

1792
02:11:08,359 --> 02:11:11,880
But in reality, you're becoming a fool. And what happens

1793
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:14,479
is that you don't even realize that the very things

1794
02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:19,000
you're saying are contradictory to say that you can never

1795
02:11:19,159 --> 02:11:22,560
tell people they're wrong and that you're a bigot. If

1796
02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:25,319
you try to tell other people are wrong, you're being

1797
02:11:25,399 --> 02:11:27,960
a bigot because you're telling people they have to be relativists.

1798
02:11:28,520 --> 02:11:31,479
Speaker 29: Feelings are about this topic that was getting very emotional

1799
02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:33,720
the first time I watched this video, because.

1800
02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:36,479
Speaker 6: Why are you getting emotional? The only emotion I have

1801
02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:40,520
is laughter at this ridiculous woman. What so again, we

1802
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:43,680
don't need. This is women being moved by their emotions

1803
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:46,880
and not by their rational faculty. And that's why we

1804
02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:48,720
can't go to these people for this kind of stuff.

1805
02:11:50,319 --> 02:11:53,720
Speaker 47: Does anybody else find an interesting and in popular Christianity

1806
02:11:53,920 --> 02:11:56,600
it goes without being said that God is a man

1807
02:11:56,840 --> 02:12:00,560
until somebody suggests that God might be a woman. Then

1808
02:12:00,680 --> 02:12:04,399
the response from Bible thumpers is God doesn't have a gender,

1809
02:12:04,640 --> 02:12:08,159
He is beyond gender. If God can't be confined to

1810
02:12:08,279 --> 02:12:10,560
a gender, why do we require everybody to refer to

1811
02:12:10,640 --> 02:12:12,159
God as he will not refer to God?

1812
02:12:12,439 --> 02:12:14,680
Speaker 6: Well, in a sense, he does have a gender because

1813
02:12:14,720 --> 02:12:17,800
He came as the son, and the son became in

1814
02:12:17,880 --> 02:12:21,039
carnate as a man, and so his father God is

1815
02:12:21,279 --> 02:12:25,239
the Father. But it's not a strict biological identity. It

1816
02:12:25,760 --> 02:12:27,600
is a both and a not an either or.

1817
02:12:33,279 --> 02:12:34,520
Speaker 25: Does anybody else sign it?

1818
02:12:37,479 --> 02:12:37,800
Speaker 18: What is?

1819
02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:42,279
Speaker 20: There's some insane but very common Christian loopholes. Some Christians

1820
02:12:42,319 --> 02:12:44,600
are completely against Halloween, but you know they're going to

1821
02:12:44,640 --> 02:12:46,159
do a fall festival. They're going to do a little

1822
02:12:46,159 --> 02:12:49,119
trunk or treat with their church. Everyone dresses up, there's candy.

1823
02:12:49,239 --> 02:12:51,760
They're doing what the rest of the world does on Halloween.

1824
02:12:51,880 --> 02:12:53,640
This loophole is so funny to me because I'm just like,

1825
02:12:53,800 --> 02:12:55,560
just go trigger treating. As you will know, most of

1826
02:12:55,600 --> 02:12:57,279
the Amish are not allowed to drive cars.

1827
02:12:57,319 --> 02:12:59,199
Speaker 25: This is a traditional form of transportation.

1828
02:12:58,800 --> 02:13:01,479
Speaker 20: But also very common for them to hire English people,

1829
02:13:01,560 --> 02:13:03,840
which are non Amish people, to drive them around. For

1830
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:06,119
some Amish, their church does allow them to do this

1831
02:13:06,399 --> 02:13:06,840
for others.

1832
02:13:06,920 --> 02:13:10,399
Speaker 6: This is well, this is just pointing out the phariseeical

1833
02:13:10,479 --> 02:13:13,840
hypocritical stupidity of cults. I mean a little bit of.

1834
02:13:13,840 --> 02:13:16,319
Speaker 20: A loophole, but I do not blame them. Now Mormons,

1835
02:13:16,640 --> 02:13:19,039
this makes sense. They're not allowed to drink coffee or tea.

1836
02:13:19,279 --> 02:13:22,119
You would think no caffeine at all. No, the Mormons

1837
02:13:22,199 --> 02:13:26,039
have their caffeine fixed, Cruce, sodas, waves and soaking cornerstones.

1838
02:13:26,079 --> 02:13:26,800
Speaker 18: At being Mormon.

1839
02:13:26,960 --> 02:13:29,479
Speaker 20: At my conservative Christian college, we weren't allowed to dance.

1840
02:13:29,600 --> 02:13:32,960
You might be saying, but everyone's dancing here, everyone's dancing here.

1841
02:13:34,399 --> 02:13:37,520
But this is actually okay because it's not dancing, it's choreography.

1842
02:13:37,720 --> 02:13:40,640
Let's talk about how bundies have chaperones on their dates.

1843
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:43,279
This is an interesting loophole to me because they always have.

1844
02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:45,920
Speaker 6: I actually like this video. She's actually doing a good

1845
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:48,119
job so far. Like I mean, this is the kind

1846
02:13:48,159 --> 02:13:50,960
of stupid stuff that I would point out amongst a

1847
02:13:50,960 --> 02:13:53,960
lot of cults that are totally hypocritical.

1848
02:13:54,279 --> 02:13:56,920
Speaker 20: Chaperones are like below the age of thirteen. They have

1849
02:13:57,039 --> 02:13:59,039
them on their dates for accountability. But I'm like, if

1850
02:13:59,079 --> 02:14:00,960
you really wanted some who was going to watch you

1851
02:14:01,039 --> 02:14:03,600
and hold you accountable, you would hire a sibling who's

1852
02:14:03,640 --> 02:14:04,119
not seven.

1853
02:14:05,119 --> 02:14:08,399
Speaker 6: No that I've never heard of bringing a thirteen year

1854
02:14:08,439 --> 02:14:11,000
old or a ten year old on your date as

1855
02:14:11,039 --> 02:14:15,960
a chaperone. That's just the parent. That's just the parents

1856
02:14:16,039 --> 02:14:17,680
getting away with free babysitting right there.

1857
02:14:17,840 --> 02:14:18,479
Speaker 18: That's all that is.

1858
02:14:19,680 --> 02:14:21,159
Speaker 6: That's retarded dude, women.

1859
02:14:20,920 --> 02:14:23,520
Speaker 20: Who are just like I waited. They'll do all the things,

1860
02:14:23,760 --> 02:14:28,159
but like everyone knows that you were having and to

1861
02:14:28,279 --> 02:14:30,399
make sure that you were still in the eyes of

1862
02:14:30,439 --> 02:14:32,520
the church, in the eyes of Christianity, and then they'll

1863
02:14:32,520 --> 02:14:34,520
walk around high and mighty for the rest of them.

1864
02:14:35,119 --> 02:14:36,520
Speaker 6: I don't know what a V card is, but do

1865
02:14:36,640 --> 02:14:39,600
I get a bitcoin refund? Do I get a two

1866
02:14:39,640 --> 02:14:42,439
percent bitcoin payback on my V card when I use

1867
02:14:42,479 --> 02:14:46,439
it at the gas station? What do y'all think? Delphinitely, bro,

1868
02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:49,239
five dollars, Thank you for these studies. Do you listen

1869
02:14:49,319 --> 02:14:50,920
to the new Neuro album?

1870
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:51,119
Speaker 1: Oh?

1871
02:14:52,279 --> 02:14:55,680
Speaker 6: I forgot that, so they delayed it coming out and

1872
02:14:56,720 --> 02:14:59,319
it's out now and I just shared that I forgot

1873
02:14:59,359 --> 02:15:02,359
to download it. In fact, I'm gonna do that right now.

1874
02:15:03,199 --> 02:15:06,199
So I have not yet heard the new Neuro album.

1875
02:15:06,279 --> 02:15:09,199
But hey, I'm excited. What we're like ten years? Nine years?

1876
02:15:11,479 --> 02:15:14,239
There's good, good things happening, guys. It's not all bad.

1877
02:15:14,720 --> 02:15:18,079
The stars are aligning. Did you see that Nero liked

1878
02:15:18,119 --> 02:15:21,039
my post the other day? I was like, whoa dude,

1879
02:15:22,039 --> 02:15:25,960
We're in some weird dimension where Oasis comes back. Nero

1880
02:15:26,079 --> 02:15:28,920
has a new album after nine years. I mean, I

1881
02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:33,399
don't know what is going on, but as there's good

1882
02:15:33,479 --> 02:15:37,000
signs as well as bad signs, I don't know what that.

1883
02:15:37,319 --> 02:15:41,760
Everything is just so crazy. It's just all weird timing

1884
02:15:41,840 --> 02:15:45,439
though we're in the nineties again. Somehow we're in some

1885
02:15:45,560 --> 02:15:49,199
sort of cern alternate dimension where the nineties are back,

1886
02:15:50,159 --> 02:15:54,359
but it's also apocalyptic almost. I don't know.

1887
02:15:58,520 --> 02:16:00,560
Speaker 20: So they're lives, and I just want to say to them, like,

1888
02:16:00,800 --> 02:16:03,960
you were not a you did things that other people

1889
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consider to be also it's a construct. Anyways, What are

1890
02:16:07,479 --> 02:16:10,560
some of your favorite loopholes? We're some insane but very

1891
02:16:10,640 --> 02:16:13,399
common Christian loopholes. Some Christians are completely I.

1892
02:16:13,479 --> 02:16:14,079
Speaker 6: Liked I heard video.

1893
02:16:14,119 --> 02:16:16,039
Speaker 2: It was good too.

1894
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Speaker 1: What is God?

1895
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Speaker 6: What's with the videos of all these evangelical teenagers crying?

1896
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I don't understand what, Like they're having melted down. They're

1897
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doing this to get attention.

1898
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Speaker 37: I guess out of the trenches not.

1899
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Speaker 48: To shit on this, you know, endearing moment or in

1900
02:16:33,479 --> 02:16:38,000
this endearing motivational video that inspires so many It's so

1901
02:16:38,200 --> 02:16:41,280
funny that from a group of people, not these people specifically,

1902
02:16:41,360 --> 02:16:43,079
but a lot of these people who believe in this religion,

1903
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and I make my content.

1904
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Speaker 49: They always say, well, you can't expect God to do X,

1905
02:16:46,120 --> 02:16:48,319
Y and Z because he's not a genie. Yet y'all

1906
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are walking around saying you love him because he pulled

1907
02:16:50,200 --> 02:16:52,159
you out of the trenches. Isn't that something that he's

1908
02:16:52,239 --> 02:16:54,719
doing for you because you've probably prayed to get out

1909
02:16:54,760 --> 02:16:56,959
of the trenches and he answered that prayer, and that's

1910
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why you love him. Right, that's not even the overall point.

1911
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Because I remember time in my life where I was

1912
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a Christian and when somebody would ask me why I

1913
02:17:03,360 --> 02:17:05,399
followed God, I would say the same thing because of

1914
02:17:05,440 --> 02:17:07,159
the things that he brought me through, the things that

1915
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he gave me strength to endure.

1916
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Speaker 6: So once again, the bases are all purely subjective, nothing

1917
02:17:16,559 --> 02:17:19,959
to do with like the external and like what's rationally

1918
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:23,479
the case, what is the evidence point to, what's the

1919
02:17:23,520 --> 02:17:27,879
philosophical argument for it? It's subjective feelings. And of course

1920
02:17:27,920 --> 02:17:32,399
she's going to cite some goofy evangelical wine Mom podcast.

1921
02:17:33,399 --> 02:17:35,639
If you are a Christian money and I's an alcohol

1922
02:17:35,719 --> 02:17:42,760
wine Mom Hong Kong, this is like God on X

1923
02:17:42,840 --> 02:17:45,639
five dollars. To me, the Vatican one system is impossible

1924
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for a fallen man to maintain. Yeah, I mean, I

1925
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think that's part of it. Of course, they're just gonna say, well,

1926
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if God can provide and guide the church to preserve

1927
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the scriptures, and if God can preserve tradition, he can

1928
02:17:59,479 --> 02:18:03,559
preserve a hope. Yeah, he could do that. But the

1929
02:18:03,680 --> 02:18:06,079
question is is that the governance that he chose for

1930
02:18:06,159 --> 02:18:08,159
the church, And if so, why are there's so many

1931
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counter examples in the history of the Church that really

1932
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really only a few one or two counterexamples should undo

1933
02:18:15,639 --> 02:18:17,760
the people claims about it. So if patar are ten dollars,

1934
02:18:18,719 --> 02:18:20,440
the Orthodox pray to the saints, Yes, we believe in

1935
02:18:20,440 --> 02:18:24,760
the intercession of saints. Watched the argument that I have

1936
02:18:24,840 --> 02:18:27,159
with the guy at the beginning of yesterday's five hour

1937
02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:31,840
line stream. Jesus said, did not pray to the dead

1938
02:18:31,920 --> 02:18:35,200
Jesus mediator, Well, the saints are alive to God. They're

1939
02:18:35,239 --> 02:18:38,520
not dead. That's why Jesus says Abraham is not dead

1940
02:18:38,559 --> 02:18:42,879
but lives to God. In the Book of Revelation five, six, seven, eight,

1941
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the Saints are seen interceding and praying and bon Jovie

1942
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:49,440
in nineteen twelve fifty dollars, Thank you so much, Jay

1943
02:18:49,440 --> 02:18:52,120
I'm sure you've discussed this, but would Catholicism just be

1944
02:18:52,159 --> 02:18:55,959
another form of utopianism putting the pope as god man

1945
02:18:56,120 --> 02:18:59,840
on earth. This has been criticized. It was the criticism

1946
02:19:00,319 --> 02:19:03,920
ultimately of Dostoevsky in the famous Grand Inquisitor chapter, that

1947
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the earthly geopolitical power turned to the papacy, the Tomma

1948
02:19:07,719 --> 02:19:15,360
Grigorn reforms has resulted in a earthly power based religion,

1949
02:19:16,200 --> 02:19:18,840
which is a form of utopianism. And so that's actually

1950
02:19:18,879 --> 02:19:23,159
the entire point of Dostievsky's Famous Inquisitor chapter. So he

1951
02:19:23,319 --> 02:19:27,559
was making that argument. Saint Justin Popovich echoes that in

1952
02:19:27,680 --> 02:19:31,479
his critique of the papacy as well as the key

1953
02:19:31,559 --> 02:19:37,639
example of Renaissance humanism. So yes, faith, faith in life

1954
02:19:37,639 --> 02:19:40,079
in Christ by Saint Justin Popovich and the Grand Inquisitor

1955
02:19:40,319 --> 02:19:43,639
make that point, bon Jovi exactly. Now, I don't think

1956
02:19:43,680 --> 02:19:47,000
we're exactly there yet to where Roman Catholicism is literally

1957
02:19:47,159 --> 02:19:50,000
just this attempt at a utopian building of the Kingdom

1958
02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:52,440
of God on earth. But the seeds have been there,

1959
02:19:52,520 --> 02:19:54,399
and if you know, he continues in the path that

1960
02:19:54,440 --> 02:19:56,239
it's on, which I don't see how how it could

1961
02:19:56,239 --> 02:19:58,360
be otherwise. I mean, the only thing I could see

1962
02:19:58,360 --> 02:20:02,440
is that it it, it goes away and converts to Orthodoxy,

1963
02:20:02,559 --> 02:20:07,520
and then whoever doesn't convert the Orthodoxy real Orthodoxy is

1964
02:20:09,680 --> 02:20:13,399
the Roman thing becomes this other world religion. That's Chris

1965
02:20:13,479 --> 02:20:18,719
lom new Agu something emotional appeal, Gordon one dollar. You

1966
02:20:18,799 --> 02:20:22,959
cannot reject the papacy. Well, that's funny because even the

1967
02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:25,920
papacy admits that the Orthodox Church, which has rejected the

1968
02:20:25,959 --> 02:20:28,600
papacy for one thousand years, has maintained his existence as

1969
02:20:29,120 --> 02:20:31,959
believers in the true Faith, in the One True Gospel

1970
02:20:32,000 --> 02:20:35,040
and so forth. So how have we maintained our existence

1971
02:20:35,079 --> 02:20:36,879
for a thousand years if we can't do that without

1972
02:20:36,879 --> 02:20:39,399
the pope? Patar five dollars? Is a baptism require for

1973
02:20:39,440 --> 02:20:43,680
salvation Orthodoxy? Yes, salvation is not a one time sinner's

1974
02:20:43,680 --> 02:20:46,479
prayer thing. It's an ongoing thing throughout your life. Any

1975
02:20:46,559 --> 02:20:49,360
Montese one dollar. I'd like to see you and Sam

1976
02:20:49,399 --> 02:20:52,159
interact and have a debate. Well, I mean, I don't

1977
02:20:52,200 --> 02:20:56,000
want to have a falling out with Sam. I love Sam.

1978
02:20:56,000 --> 02:20:58,319
I don't want to see him go in the wrong direction,

1979
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:00,680
even if he chose to go to the Alicism. I

1980
02:21:00,799 --> 02:21:02,879
still be friendly with him. I'm friendly with Tim Gordon,

1981
02:21:04,600 --> 02:21:07,399
but we don't have to debate to have a discussion

1982
02:21:07,479 --> 02:21:10,719
about these topics. Squad ten dollars. Do you know what

1983
02:21:11,159 --> 02:21:14,239
glass beat is? Can you give your two cents on it?

1984
02:21:14,319 --> 02:21:16,920
I don't know what that is? But is this getting

1985
02:21:16,920 --> 02:21:19,520
into something dirty or something? I don't know what that is?

1986
02:21:20,200 --> 02:21:23,319
Jake Burnet's one dollar. What is the imminent threat to

1987
02:21:23,360 --> 02:21:26,079
America's success in the near future? The most imminent threat?

1988
02:21:29,879 --> 02:21:31,920
It's all of them together, right, I mean, it's like

1989
02:21:34,440 --> 02:21:38,079
the lack of enforcing the laws that already exist.

1990
02:21:37,879 --> 02:21:40,280
Speaker 2: About about the Wonder Wall.

1991
02:21:42,479 --> 02:21:50,799
Speaker 6: It's the toxic culture, it's the attack on biology in children.

1992
02:21:52,719 --> 02:21:54,479
I mean, all of these things are kind of like

1993
02:21:54,559 --> 02:21:59,079
the central threats. So it's hard to say that there's one.

1994
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All these bonds three dollars. Kamala is not any intellectual.

1995
02:22:06,920 --> 02:22:09,520
She's a fake and a fraud. Yeah, you know, I'm

1996
02:22:09,559 --> 02:22:11,120
kind of at that point where it's like, is she

1997
02:22:11,239 --> 02:22:13,319
just totally out to lunch in an idiot or is

1998
02:22:13,399 --> 02:22:16,399
she cunning and a little more malicious and she plays

1999
02:22:17,159 --> 02:22:21,520
dumber than she is. Some people do this, and some

2000
02:22:21,719 --> 02:22:25,280
politicians can actually effectively do this. I'm not spent enough

2001
02:22:25,319 --> 02:22:28,200
time listening to Kamala to really pay attention. But she

2002
02:22:28,440 --> 02:22:30,799
probably is an idiot, but she could be more cunning

2003
02:22:31,600 --> 02:22:35,760
and be playing the dumb facade to get away with

2004
02:22:35,840 --> 02:22:41,639
more stuff at Flora. Ten dollars do work, Jay, this

2005
02:22:41,840 --> 02:22:44,440
is kind of work. I mean, I'm starting to get

2006
02:22:44,440 --> 02:22:49,360
a headache from all these goobers and goofballs. I don't

2007
02:22:49,360 --> 02:22:50,520
know if I could take much more of that. I

2008
02:22:50,559 --> 02:22:52,520
still haven't figured out or heard a clear answer as

2009
02:22:52,559 --> 02:22:53,760
to what deconstruction is.

2010
02:22:55,879 --> 02:22:57,479
Speaker 35: Please just give me a little bit of your time.

2011
02:22:58,200 --> 02:23:02,319
It is not our job Christians to make our religion

2012
02:23:02,760 --> 02:23:03,239
the law.

2013
02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:03,600
Speaker 50: Of the land.

2014
02:23:04,239 --> 02:23:09,520
Speaker 6: That is not what actually Ultimately it is so not true.

2015
02:23:19,639 --> 02:23:22,840
Donelle says, I will be given a talk on religious trauma.

2016
02:23:23,520 --> 02:23:27,040
So this is religious trauma. I mean it's not. I mean,

2017
02:23:27,360 --> 02:23:30,840
if this is religious trauma, then going to a concert

2018
02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:33,840
is religious trauma, because I mean I see Taylor Swift Chicks,

2019
02:23:33,879 --> 02:23:38,760
Swifties crying and acting a fool just like these evangelicals do. So,

2020
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I mean, everybody twenty five and under calls everything trauma.

2021
02:23:43,879 --> 02:23:47,520
It's like I didn't try to negotiaton today.

2022
02:23:47,959 --> 02:23:51,959
Speaker 15: I was traumatized because somebody looked at me.

2023
02:23:52,200 --> 02:23:52,479
Speaker 2: Weird.

2024
02:23:53,680 --> 02:23:54,120
Speaker 15: Trauma.

2025
02:23:54,360 --> 02:23:55,200
Speaker 6: Everything is trauma.

2026
02:23:57,600 --> 02:24:01,680
Speaker 26: Why did God decide communicates through literature something?

2027
02:24:02,200 --> 02:24:05,120
Speaker 43: This may hurt a couple of Christians feelings, but let's

2028
02:24:05,200 --> 02:24:08,479
ask this question. What if God intended for that to happen?

2029
02:24:09,239 --> 02:24:13,200
Rather than think that God has everything in our best interest?

2030
02:24:14,200 --> 02:24:16,680
Why can't we for one moment? And I know it

2031
02:24:16,760 --> 02:24:19,840
might be blasphemous for some, for some of y'all Christians,

2032
02:24:21,200 --> 02:24:21,520
why she.

2033
02:24:21,639 --> 02:24:24,440
Speaker 6: Wearing an ink? I mean, if God a bad dude,

2034
02:24:25,319 --> 02:24:28,000
then why she turned into Was she gonna be an Egyptian?

2035
02:24:28,159 --> 02:24:29,959
Egyptian prince? She a queen?

2036
02:24:32,399 --> 02:24:34,879
Speaker 50: It's so interesting to me that when I was a Christian,

2037
02:24:34,959 --> 02:24:35,239
when I.

2038
02:24:35,360 --> 02:24:40,200
Speaker 6: Wasn't I mean, is Egyptology more rational than what we believe?

2039
02:24:40,239 --> 02:24:41,680
I mean, Egyptology is crazy.

2040
02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:43,600
Speaker 50: Evangelical worship leader.

2041
02:24:43,399 --> 02:24:45,600
Speaker 6: When I served on minute, when I was an evangelical

2042
02:24:45,600 --> 02:24:48,680
worship leader and ran the ministry teams. Problem number one,

2043
02:24:48,959 --> 02:24:51,479
So women are not supposed to be leading the church.

2044
02:24:51,639 --> 02:24:54,239
Speaker 50: Three teams when I was preaching, when I was praying

2045
02:24:54,280 --> 02:24:55,440
for when I was preaching.

2046
02:24:55,920 --> 02:24:57,600
Speaker 6: Number one problem right there, We're not supposed to be

2047
02:24:57,639 --> 02:24:58,399
preaching people.

2048
02:24:58,920 --> 02:25:01,920
Speaker 50: No one ever doubted the legitimacy of my salvation.

2049
02:25:02,239 --> 02:25:04,239
Speaker 51: No one ever said, I don't know if you're really

2050
02:25:04,280 --> 02:25:06,920
a Christian, And certainly no one ever doubted that I

2051
02:25:07,040 --> 02:25:10,520
truly believed in God, that I really did have relationship

2052
02:25:10,600 --> 02:25:11,120
with Jesus.

2053
02:25:11,840 --> 02:25:15,479
Speaker 6: You'll notice in all of the evangelical situations here, it's

2054
02:25:15,559 --> 02:25:21,639
all it's all purely individual and subjective. And you can't

2055
02:25:21,680 --> 02:25:25,520
call into question my relationship with Jesus because Jesus my boyfriend,

2056
02:25:26,840 --> 02:25:29,959
and it's never ever about objective things. This is the

2057
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:34,159
problem with this whole delusion. And look, every person that

2058
02:25:34,239 --> 02:25:37,239
we've gone through who's deconstructing is a former evangelical.

2059
02:25:37,639 --> 02:25:40,319
Speaker 51: Now now that I've come out as an atheist and

2060
02:25:40,360 --> 02:25:43,079
said that I no longer believe in any God's or deities,

2061
02:25:43,399 --> 02:25:46,200
I am constantly told that I must have never been

2062
02:25:46,239 --> 02:25:49,120
a real Christian, that I never believed, that I'm a fraud.

2063
02:25:49,440 --> 02:25:51,319
This is all called the no trus gods and fallacy,

2064
02:25:51,440 --> 02:25:53,760
by the way, because as long as I was serving

2065
02:25:53,840 --> 02:25:56,600
their agenda and believing what they believed and being.

2066
02:25:56,479 --> 02:25:56,920
Speaker 2: A good way.

2067
02:25:56,920 --> 02:25:59,600
Speaker 6: Wait, it's what does she say, the not trust God

2068
02:26:00,040 --> 02:26:07,280
gods did fallacy, the no true Scotsman fallacy? She got

2069
02:26:07,319 --> 02:26:10,680
it held I gotta hear those the no true gods

2070
02:26:10,760 --> 02:26:13,239
and fallacy? Is that what she said?

2071
02:26:13,799 --> 02:26:14,799
Speaker 50: Because as long as I.

2072
02:26:15,079 --> 02:26:18,079
Speaker 51: Was serving their agenda and believing what they believed and

2073
02:26:18,159 --> 02:26:20,000
being a good little sheep like the rest of them,

2074
02:26:20,399 --> 02:26:23,319
then bought some fallacy by the way, that I'm a fraud.

2075
02:26:23,600 --> 02:26:25,440
Speaker 50: This is all called the no true Scots and fallacy.

2076
02:26:25,440 --> 02:26:27,719
Speaker 6: Okay, No, she did say no true scotsman fallacy.

2077
02:26:27,799 --> 02:26:30,920
Speaker 51: So I was serving their agenda and believing what they

2078
02:26:31,000 --> 02:26:33,079
believed and being a good little sheep like the rest

2079
02:26:33,120 --> 02:26:36,319
of them, then I was praised and I was absolutely

2080
02:26:36,440 --> 02:26:37,559
validated in my belief.

2081
02:26:37,680 --> 02:26:40,239
Speaker 6: And no, they're all talking about if you notice the

2082
02:26:40,360 --> 02:26:44,479
term they all use the same terms, right, they're all deconstructing,

2083
02:26:44,760 --> 02:26:48,000
and I needed to be validated, and I'm just deconstructing

2084
02:26:48,120 --> 02:26:48,479
right now.

2085
02:26:48,760 --> 02:26:49,079
Speaker 1: It's like.

2086
02:26:51,479 --> 02:26:57,760
Speaker 6: People are really just regurgitators, you know what I mean.

2087
02:26:58,559 --> 02:27:02,399
That's the sad part is that. I mean, I think

2088
02:27:02,440 --> 02:27:04,600
for a lot of these people, they probably really were

2089
02:27:06,159 --> 02:27:10,000
mistreated or they obviously saw the absurdity and whatever evangelical

2090
02:27:10,239 --> 02:27:14,520
thing they were in, and so they go to TikTok

2091
02:27:14,559 --> 02:27:17,840
and they go to internet. They got that podcast, and

2092
02:27:17,959 --> 02:27:20,879
they find people making interesting and valid points about the

2093
02:27:20,920 --> 02:27:24,520
absurdities of all that, and then they just regurgitate, you

2094
02:27:24,559 --> 02:27:26,559
know what I mean. So they're basically just spinning back

2095
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out what other TikTokers are saying.

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Speaker 50: One thought that I was being afraught. I was given

2097
02:27:33,399 --> 02:27:35,959
the benefit of the doubt. But now my denial of

2098
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:37,479
their dogma is such a threat.

2099
02:27:39,120 --> 02:27:39,799
Speaker 25: You're not horny.

2100
02:27:39,879 --> 02:27:40,799
Speaker 26: You actually just need a.

2101
02:27:40,840 --> 02:27:44,319
Speaker 6: Hug you need That's what I'm talking about. That's what

2102
02:27:44,399 --> 02:27:47,520
I'm talking about. That's just a speaking my language right now.

2103
02:27:53,920 --> 02:27:57,000
Speaker 47: What's called a cycle of fam So the next time

2104
02:27:57,079 --> 02:27:59,479
someone comes and tells me that God told them to

2105
02:27:59,559 --> 02:28:03,200
tell me dot, I'm calling.

2106
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Speaker 6: It crut So he's right though, all of these evangelicals

2107
02:28:07,239 --> 02:28:12,079
that are in delusion saying God spoke to me and

2108
02:28:12,280 --> 02:28:15,120
told me to tell you about Uh, the money is

2109
02:28:15,159 --> 02:28:17,280
coming away. You just got to keep believing this is

2110
02:28:17,319 --> 02:28:28,479
all delusion. Oh she's look at this empowered. She's gonna

2111
02:28:28,559 --> 02:28:31,040
sing I can't play it because little ding the algorithm.

2112
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But all right, so, uh, what is here? We go?

2113
02:28:34,360 --> 02:28:36,479
What is deconstructing? Because I heard a bunch of people

2114
02:28:36,600 --> 02:28:38,360
yapping about it, I have not heard anybody explain what

2115
02:28:38,440 --> 02:28:41,520
it is. Oh dude, look at this dude, do looking

2116
02:28:41,680 --> 02:28:45,959
rough bro lay Off, the lay Off, the Mad Dog

2117
02:28:46,079 --> 02:28:48,399
twenty twenty and the Virginia slams bro a.

2118
02:28:48,399 --> 02:28:51,719
Speaker 5: Pretty aggressive stance against the idea of deconstruction. Like, for instance,

2119
02:28:51,760 --> 02:28:54,719
apologist Sean McDowell recently just had Atleasta Childers.

2120
02:28:54,399 --> 02:28:56,120
Speaker 25: And Tim Barnett onto his podcast.

2121
02:28:55,799 --> 02:28:58,159
Speaker 5: Where unfortunately they just said the infamous line, if you've

2122
02:28:58,200 --> 02:29:00,559
deconstructed your left your faith, you were a Christian to

2123
02:29:00,559 --> 02:29:02,639
begin with. So there's a lot of misconceptions about the

2124
02:29:02,680 --> 02:29:05,079
idea of deconstruction in general. So let's talk about that.

2125
02:29:05,239 --> 02:29:05,959
Speaker 1: What does it mean?

2126
02:29:06,079 --> 02:29:08,120
Speaker 6: You notice it basically the whole country is turning into

2127
02:29:08,239 --> 02:29:12,559
a reddit. Soy person, I think that's the goal, is

2128
02:29:12,600 --> 02:29:19,000
to like retify the entire country, to become complete chunk

2129
02:29:19,120 --> 02:29:22,760
ball mind control MPC people that they can just regurgitate,

2130
02:29:23,360 --> 02:29:26,840
have a big mob army of like borg hive mind

2131
02:29:26,920 --> 02:29:30,840
people that just regurgitate whatever garbage TikTok spits up.

2132
02:29:31,079 --> 02:29:32,600
Speaker 1: Mean to deconstruct your faith?

2133
02:29:32,879 --> 02:29:34,440
Speaker 5: Well, here's what I mean when I talk about it,

2134
02:29:34,520 --> 02:29:35,879
and I know that I'm not the only one who

2135
02:29:35,959 --> 02:29:39,200
uses this definition. Deconstruction is merely just critically thinking about

2136
02:29:39,239 --> 02:29:42,120
why you believe what you believe interrogating your faith, taking

2137
02:29:42,159 --> 02:29:43,680
it apart layer by layer piece.

2138
02:29:43,520 --> 02:29:46,159
Speaker 6: Like, oh, well, we do that in presuppositionalism, so we

2139
02:29:46,159 --> 02:29:47,959
would not have a problem with that peace.

2140
02:29:47,799 --> 02:29:50,479
Speaker 5: And checking to see if you find any veracity in

2141
02:29:50,520 --> 02:29:51,360
the claims of the faith.

2142
02:29:51,559 --> 02:29:53,040
Speaker 1: And with that definition in mind.

2143
02:29:53,600 --> 02:29:55,799
Speaker 6: What do you want about this guy is iving a

2144
02:29:55,840 --> 02:29:57,479
little struggles with his sexuality.

2145
02:29:59,159 --> 02:30:02,760
Speaker 24: I get asked a lot about deconstruction, especially when people

2146
02:30:02,840 --> 02:30:06,120
find out that I deconstructed before deconstruction.

2147
02:30:06,879 --> 02:30:11,760
Speaker 6: Bro, Like you don't even know, Like I was deconstructing, uh,

2148
02:30:12,760 --> 02:30:16,000
like getting tickets to their concerts before you, like even

2149
02:30:16,159 --> 02:30:18,440
had diapers, dude, Like I was way before you.

2150
02:30:19,200 --> 02:30:22,760
Speaker 25: About deconstructing and reconstructing.

2151
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:25,799
Speaker 6: Our Have you noticed that every deconstructing man is a

2152
02:30:25,920 --> 02:30:30,520
soyman who looks just like the IPA beer titty bros

2153
02:30:30,639 --> 02:30:34,319
that I make fun of. Interesting, I'm noticing a pattern here.

2154
02:30:34,440 --> 02:30:40,399
Maybe evangelical i pas are making soymen into atheist men.

2155
02:30:41,200 --> 02:30:45,239
Eight Here at Restore, Zach Lambert is a lead pastor,

2156
02:30:46,319 --> 02:30:50,360
so he's there's a lot of toxicity in our lead

2157
02:30:50,520 --> 02:30:54,360
pastor Zach. Zach is just really toxic. So we also

2158
02:30:54,440 --> 02:30:59,200
have a mercury pastor and we have a I saw

2159
02:30:59,239 --> 02:31:01,239
a lead pastor. I know it's lead pastor, but it

2160
02:31:01,280 --> 02:31:02,319
made me think of lead pastor.

2161
02:31:03,000 --> 02:31:05,399
Speaker 25: Now, if you aren't familiar with those terms, I want

2162
02:31:05,440 --> 02:31:06,479
you to think of your faith.

2163
02:31:06,600 --> 02:31:09,520
Speaker 6: Why is he preaching at the internet like he's in

2164
02:31:10,319 --> 02:31:13,040
a congregation preaching a podium.

2165
02:31:13,879 --> 02:31:17,719
Speaker 25: Faith as a house made of bricks. Now, when I

2166
02:31:17,760 --> 02:31:20,920
say your faith, I mean your beliefs, your spiritual practices,

2167
02:31:21,000 --> 02:31:23,959
your church background, your religious community, et cetera. All of

2168
02:31:24,040 --> 02:31:28,319
that wrapped into one is your faith and your faith.

2169
02:31:28,399 --> 02:31:30,200
I want you to think of it like a house

2170
02:31:30,399 --> 02:31:31,680
made of bricks.

2171
02:31:31,959 --> 02:31:35,040
Speaker 6: Look, he's got foundation was most like he's got built

2172
02:31:35,559 --> 02:31:37,440
ipa titties as usual.

2173
02:31:37,799 --> 02:31:41,719
Speaker 25: You were young, whether through directly growing up in church

2174
02:31:42,319 --> 02:31:45,879
or just being exposed to it through relationships and media.

2175
02:31:46,040 --> 02:31:50,120
Those early spiritual beliefs and practices were the first bricks

2176
02:31:50,319 --> 02:31:53,520
put in place, and they serve as a foundation for

2177
02:31:53,680 --> 02:31:54,280
your house.

2178
02:31:54,840 --> 02:31:57,440
Speaker 6: These are your titty bricks, and they will serve as

2179
02:31:57,479 --> 02:32:05,600
the foundation of your h I was about to what

2180
02:32:05,719 --> 02:32:08,479
do you call it when you when you like a

2181
02:32:08,559 --> 02:32:10,399
home brewery. I was trying to think of a home brewery.

2182
02:32:11,479 --> 02:32:17,319
I messed up one joke, that's right, Oh, crap, That's

2183
02:32:17,319 --> 02:32:23,559
what I was looking for. Okay, So basically I'm questioning,

2184
02:32:26,719 --> 02:32:30,239
it's just questioning my belief system. Why are they all

2185
02:32:30,360 --> 02:32:45,760
repeating these terms anyway? Okay, I don't, I can't. Here

2186
02:32:45,799 --> 02:32:47,239
we go. This is the last dude here.

2187
02:32:47,840 --> 02:32:50,079
Speaker 25: Not Christians, and they will not be safe, the same

2188
02:32:50,120 --> 02:32:53,000
as true for the honors the Orthodox Sending.

2189
02:32:52,840 --> 02:32:55,959
Speaker 51: Two Christians tell each other that they're not real Christians

2190
02:32:56,360 --> 02:32:58,040
is absolutely hilarious.

2191
02:32:58,040 --> 02:32:58,760
Speaker 6: Why is that funny?

2192
02:32:58,840 --> 02:32:59,639
Speaker 26: First of all, it's kind of.

2193
02:32:59,719 --> 02:33:01,600
Speaker 51: Nice them to get a taste of their own medicine,

2194
02:33:01,719 --> 02:33:06,040
considering they know truth. But it's also like listening to

2195
02:33:06,120 --> 02:33:09,280
sci fi fans argue over what is canon and what isn't.

2196
02:33:09,920 --> 02:33:11,200
Speaker 26: But most of all, it is.

2197
02:33:12,879 --> 02:33:18,399
Speaker 6: How completely there's nothing inherently contradictory about people in any

2198
02:33:18,520 --> 02:33:22,520
system saying that these people over here are not true

2199
02:33:22,959 --> 02:33:27,280
adherence to the system. Why is that hilarious or absurd?

2200
02:33:27,479 --> 02:33:30,239
I mean, that's that's really Any group will have that

2201
02:33:30,319 --> 02:33:34,440
has some common set of beliefs will by necessity like

2202
02:33:34,600 --> 02:33:37,639
exclude people who are not real adherence to that system.

2203
02:33:37,840 --> 02:33:41,120
So there's nothing inherently contradictory about one group saying the

2204
02:33:41,120 --> 02:33:42,200
other groups are heretic.

2205
02:33:42,360 --> 02:33:45,799
Speaker 26: Unclear and inconsistent. The Bible's message.

2206
02:33:45,600 --> 02:33:52,479
Speaker 6: Is the Bible? Why did she put it in the Bible?

2207
02:33:52,799 --> 02:33:52,920
Speaker 5: Right?

2208
02:33:53,040 --> 02:33:53,079
Speaker 20: Like?

2209
02:33:53,239 --> 02:33:56,159
Speaker 6: Why is their scare quotes around the Bible? Like like

2210
02:33:56,319 --> 02:33:58,719
there's like we don't exactly know what that is. It's

2211
02:33:58,799 --> 02:34:02,159
just the Bible this like what is even that? What

2212
02:34:02,399 --> 02:34:03,319
the hell is even that?

2213
02:34:03,600 --> 02:34:05,360
Speaker 26: What it says so much?

2214
02:34:05,479 --> 02:34:05,520
Speaker 25: So?

2215
02:34:06,760 --> 02:34:08,559
Speaker 6: Does she not know that? That's a fallacy. The fact

2216
02:34:08,600 --> 02:34:11,319
that people disagree with an interpretation has nothing to do

2217
02:34:11,440 --> 02:34:13,159
with whether the book's true or false.

2218
02:34:13,680 --> 02:34:16,239
Speaker 26: They condemn each other to help, and they're the ones

2219
02:34:16,280 --> 02:34:17,239
who believe.

2220
02:34:16,959 --> 02:34:17,520
Speaker 2: In the same God.

2221
02:34:17,600 --> 02:34:20,479
Speaker 6: Supposedly, well, why is it wrong to do that?

2222
02:34:21,680 --> 02:34:21,799
Speaker 18: Well?

2223
02:34:21,879 --> 02:34:23,879
Speaker 26: But the reason I'm an atheist is because I don't

2224
02:34:23,920 --> 02:34:25,440
have correct understand.

2225
02:34:25,399 --> 02:34:29,479
Speaker 6: You are an atheist because you are who she looks

2226
02:34:29,559 --> 02:34:32,079
just like what's her face?

2227
02:34:34,319 --> 02:34:34,680
Speaker 27: You're a.

2228
02:34:36,159 --> 02:34:40,000
Speaker 6: Be great, be great? An half away? That's why. That's

2229
02:34:41,680 --> 02:34:42,959
that's Anne half a mile away.

2230
02:34:45,520 --> 02:34:47,159
Speaker 31: Why do people leave their faith?

2231
02:34:48,120 --> 02:34:51,239
Speaker 6: If you were deconstructing, you might have heard we heard

2232
02:34:51,280 --> 02:34:54,760
her a minute ago. It's all the same. If the

2233
02:34:54,959 --> 02:34:58,879
press are preserving the same God, does she talking with

2234
02:34:58,959 --> 02:35:01,000
her too? Brush, don't be point your twoth broch of me.

2235
02:35:01,120 --> 02:35:04,239
That's an act of aggress's all microaggression. Point your tooth

2236
02:35:04,239 --> 02:35:07,200
broch of me, girl, I'm dom do, I'm over here,

2237
02:35:07,280 --> 02:35:12,879
dodging that tooth brush right here. I get this question

2238
02:35:12,959 --> 02:35:16,600
every one. Oh of course, this woman, this wine mom

2239
02:35:16,680 --> 02:35:20,440
over here, Wonda dam Nirvana shirt I dig instracting my acresianity.

2240
02:35:20,520 --> 02:35:22,920
Speaker 15: And now I listen to peril Jam and Nirvana like

2241
02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:23,920
it's nineteen ninety eight.

2242
02:35:24,040 --> 02:35:24,959
Speaker 6: What's the nineties again?

2243
02:35:25,040 --> 02:35:26,920
Speaker 31: Like I said, Wow, So I'm just going to talk

2244
02:35:26,959 --> 02:35:28,000
about it from my point of view.

2245
02:35:28,319 --> 02:35:30,280
Speaker 46: So basically, for me in the last couple of years,

2246
02:35:30,360 --> 02:35:33,239
basically B'SO therapy and time spet.

2247
02:35:34,120 --> 02:35:36,600
Speaker 6: It's all me me, me, me me therapy, therapy, my

2248
02:35:36,719 --> 02:35:39,399
subjective stuff. It's nothing to do with object objective truth

2249
02:35:39,479 --> 02:35:41,760
or false stood. You know, I came face to.

2250
02:35:41,799 --> 02:35:44,280
Speaker 26: Face with some of the traumas they experienced trauma in

2251
02:35:44,399 --> 02:35:46,360
the church. Before I say anything else, I want to

2252
02:35:46,360 --> 02:35:47,559
put a disclaimer out.

2253
02:35:47,479 --> 02:35:49,159
Speaker 6: That this is not my traumatize.

2254
02:35:49,280 --> 02:35:51,600
Speaker 46: My parents are incredible, And I also want to say

2255
02:35:51,639 --> 02:35:54,399
that I know that, And why is it not your

2256
02:35:54,440 --> 02:35:55,040
parents fault?

2257
02:35:55,159 --> 02:35:58,360
Speaker 6: If you if you were traumatized by what they're subjecting

2258
02:35:58,440 --> 02:36:01,559
you to, is it wouldn't it be partially their fault.

2259
02:36:01,879 --> 02:36:05,479
Speaker 46: Church is run by imperfect people. I'm fully aware of that.

2260
02:36:05,920 --> 02:36:08,280
I have a lifetime of those tiny little church hearts.

2261
02:36:08,479 --> 02:36:10,479
Those aren't the ones that I'm deconstructing from.

2262
02:36:10,639 --> 02:36:16,120
Speaker 45: Tiny little church a bunch of people, tiny little church hurts.

2263
02:36:16,680 --> 02:36:20,319
It's my own little village of tiny little church hurt people.

2264
02:36:21,280 --> 02:36:27,440
They live inside my feeties. Chenny, tiny chy people, tiny

2265
02:36:27,600 --> 02:36:32,280
church hurts. What are the big church hurts? Like Roman

2266
02:36:32,319 --> 02:36:35,920
Catholic peedo abuse? Is that like the big church? What's

2267
02:36:35,959 --> 02:36:39,280
a tiny church hurt? Fighting over the castle roll?

2268
02:36:40,440 --> 02:36:42,040
Speaker 6: What's the tiny church? Or No, I don't want to

2269
02:36:42,079 --> 02:36:43,959
know what a tiny church heurt is? Or does she

2270
02:36:44,040 --> 02:36:46,280
mean like literally like she has a tiny church, Like

2271
02:36:46,600 --> 02:36:49,200
there's a little bitty like three foot model of a

2272
02:36:49,319 --> 02:36:53,399
church and she stubbed her toe on. What's a tiny

2273
02:36:53,559 --> 02:36:54,040
church heart?

2274
02:36:54,159 --> 02:36:56,440
Speaker 46: But through digging up some of my own trauma and.

2275
02:36:56,520 --> 02:37:00,319
Speaker 6: Seeing the what do you notice again to get my chum,

2276
02:37:00,559 --> 02:37:05,559
everybody in all of this is repeating all the same phraseology,

2277
02:37:06,520 --> 02:37:13,079
and there's a pattern to this. Everyone is basically saying, Okay,

2278
02:37:13,079 --> 02:37:16,120
I watched a bunch of TikTok YouTube videos. I'm going

2279
02:37:16,200 --> 02:37:19,280
to deconstruct figure out the traumas and places that I

2280
02:37:19,399 --> 02:37:23,639
was hurt, say that I was manipulated and hurt by whatever.

2281
02:37:23,760 --> 02:37:26,079
I mean, maybe they were in some cases, but and

2282
02:37:26,120 --> 02:37:28,159
then I invent this narrative that I was a victim

2283
02:37:28,239 --> 02:37:32,639
and Christianity is basically oppressing everyone. I mean, yeah, if

2284
02:37:32,639 --> 02:37:35,639
you were at some weirdo evangelical sector cult, it probably

2285
02:37:35,799 --> 02:37:38,840
was oppressing people. I totally agree. Okay, I can't take

2286
02:37:38,840 --> 02:37:41,840
any more of this. This is too like just low

2287
02:37:41,920 --> 02:37:49,639
tier stuff. King of hellas three dollars. Will there be

2288
02:37:49,680 --> 02:37:52,440
a breakdown of society and chaos socially in order to

2289
02:37:52,559 --> 02:37:56,079
establish a world or I think that it's almost inevitable

2290
02:37:56,319 --> 02:38:01,680
and inescapable. I don't really see how well without large

2291
02:38:01,680 --> 02:38:10,040
scale shocks to the system, control chaos, engineer chaos. What

2292
02:38:10,280 --> 02:38:13,959
was the arc of crisis? The Brazinski model? It seems

2293
02:38:14,000 --> 02:38:17,159
like that's almost always necessary because there's never a smooth

2294
02:38:17,239 --> 02:38:24,559
transition into oh hey, everyone just get the UBI. It

2295
02:38:24,639 --> 02:38:28,959
seems like the system benefits and capitalizes always on a crisis.

2296
02:38:29,399 --> 02:38:33,440
So if you read most of the global elite texts,

2297
02:38:34,079 --> 02:38:36,719
how do they always begin their books? We are in

2298
02:38:36,799 --> 02:38:40,760
a crisis? Crisis crisis crisis. Ours is a time of crisis,

2299
02:38:40,840 --> 02:38:44,520
all the crises. They always hype this up, and usually

2300
02:38:44,639 --> 02:38:48,959
their crises are manufactured or exaggerated, or mayven not existent.

2301
02:38:50,159 --> 02:38:52,680
Climate change is going to destroy the world, you know,

2302
02:38:52,760 --> 02:38:56,040
this kind of stuff. Therefore we must enact total socialism.

2303
02:38:57,920 --> 02:39:00,520
Jake Burnet's five dollars. What is your response to skittles

2304
02:39:00,559 --> 02:39:04,799
when they are born this way? I say, girlfriend, you

2305
02:39:05,000 --> 02:39:08,760
just better crank up that lady, God got tune, because

2306
02:39:08,760 --> 02:39:11,479
I'm saying it with you, girl, That's what I say.

2307
02:39:12,159 --> 02:39:17,159
Is there any research on this well, saying that you're

2308
02:39:17,280 --> 02:39:20,040
born with something like that? First of all, there's no

2309
02:39:20,079 --> 02:39:23,239
way to prove that. So it's an assertion. If you

2310
02:39:23,319 --> 02:39:25,959
go back to people like Kinsey. A lot of the

2311
02:39:26,239 --> 02:39:30,440
claims of Alfred Kinsey are the basis for the turns

2312
02:39:30,479 --> 02:39:33,079
out everyone is skittles. Did you know Alphred Kinsey did

2313
02:39:33,079 --> 02:39:35,959
a bunch of studies that were violations of human rights,

2314
02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:38,479
by the way, within this I mean, even if you

2315
02:39:38,559 --> 02:39:41,159
don't believe in human rights, within the system, what they

2316
02:39:41,239 --> 02:39:43,520
say is human rights. Alfred Kinsey violated all that with

2317
02:39:43,600 --> 02:39:48,120
his disgusting stuff that he did and his publications. Because

2318
02:39:48,120 --> 02:39:52,479
the basis to say, well, then you know, everybody's faking gray. Literally,

2319
02:39:52,559 --> 02:39:55,840
everyone is faking gray on a spectrum, but only some

2320
02:39:56,079 --> 02:40:00,840
of us are like, you're like four percent fake and gray,

2321
02:40:02,319 --> 02:40:06,399
people like RuPaul eighty percent faking gray, ninety percent taking gray.

2322
02:40:07,280 --> 02:40:10,120
But everyone is fake and gray. We're all on a spectrum.

2323
02:40:10,760 --> 02:40:12,559
So my assumption, my guess, would be that it all

2324
02:40:12,600 --> 02:40:18,440
goes back to Alfred Kinsey's fraudulent studies and his degeneracy.

2325
02:40:19,399 --> 02:40:27,399
But Alfred Kinsey has been exposed as a front. Remember

2326
02:40:27,520 --> 02:40:32,799
John Money. Who's John Money? John Mayer body is one man.

2327
02:40:34,120 --> 02:40:37,319
Speaker 15: I want too run through the awesome high school.

2328
02:40:41,440 --> 02:40:45,840
Speaker 6: Shout out to the well. The only reason I said

2329
02:40:45,959 --> 02:40:48,440
RuPaul might not be one hundred percent is because I

2330
02:40:48,600 --> 02:40:50,879
think I don't know and I don't care to check.

2331
02:40:51,680 --> 02:40:55,520
But as far as I know, there's still the downstairs plumbing,

2332
02:40:56,600 --> 02:41:00,799
so he's not fully something else? Is that correct?

2333
02:41:01,680 --> 02:41:02,000
Speaker 18: I don't know.

2334
02:41:02,319 --> 02:41:05,559
Speaker 6: All you roup Paul fans in the chat can correct

2335
02:41:05,600 --> 02:41:09,520
me on that. Work Try to the left, work, turn

2336
02:41:09,719 --> 02:41:11,959
to the right, Come a girl, give us a twirl,

2337
02:41:12,760 --> 02:41:14,079
all y'all Paul fans be.

2338
02:41:14,120 --> 02:41:18,559
Speaker 15: Like, yeah, he's speaking my language now, m M.

2339
02:41:20,799 --> 02:41:24,879
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, y'all over here bitching and not knowing Otis songs. Look,

2340
02:41:24,920 --> 02:41:27,159
Oasi is basically the end of rock and roll. I mean,

2341
02:41:30,200 --> 02:41:34,760
there's no more rock bands. Oasis was the last of

2342
02:41:34,920 --> 02:41:36,639
great bands. I mean, I hate to tell it to you.

2343
02:41:36,799 --> 02:41:38,959
That's gonna be controversial. Everybody's going to bitch about it.

2344
02:41:39,040 --> 02:41:43,239
But there's no more rock and roll bands. That's it.

2345
02:41:43,319 --> 02:41:46,159
They're done, that's there's no more. In fact, you think

2346
02:41:46,200 --> 02:41:52,399
I'm joking. The one of these big producers, what was

2347
02:41:52,440 --> 02:41:55,440
his name, Rick Biato. I forget who he is. I've

2348
02:41:55,440 --> 02:41:58,600
heard his name. I forget who's the producer for. I

2349
02:41:58,719 --> 02:42:04,360
just watched his video because it popped randomly yesterday, and

2350
02:42:04,520 --> 02:42:08,120
he said, have you noticed there's no more bands anymore? Now?

2351
02:42:08,159 --> 02:42:10,239
Obviously I don't mean literally there's no bands.

2352
02:42:14,719 --> 02:42:14,840
Speaker 52: Here.

2353
02:42:15,079 --> 02:42:19,799
Speaker 6: This guy so he's some sort of like like classic

2354
02:42:19,920 --> 02:42:22,319
you know, music producer guy. I don't remember who was

2355
02:42:22,319 --> 02:42:25,760
a producer for. But he said, have you noticed that

2356
02:42:25,799 --> 02:42:28,319
there's no more bands? And that's because when you go

2357
02:42:28,440 --> 02:42:31,680
on the charts. He was talking about something like the

2358
02:42:31,799 --> 02:42:37,479
top few hundred bands or artists on the charts, they're

2359
02:42:37,520 --> 02:42:41,879
all single solo artists because that's how the system works.

2360
02:42:42,079 --> 02:42:45,760
The model works better to just promote individuals and it's

2361
02:42:45,840 --> 02:42:48,639
not really feasible to have bands anymore. And he pointed

2362
02:42:48,639 --> 02:42:51,520
out something like there's only three bands in the top

2363
02:42:52,319 --> 02:42:54,840
whatever of the charts nowadays, and I don't know, I'd

2364
02:42:54,879 --> 02:42:56,440
never heard of any of the three that he listed,

2365
02:42:56,520 --> 02:43:03,079
But so this is an interesting development for where music

2366
02:43:03,200 --> 02:43:07,799
has gone. So music has gone into this direction of

2367
02:43:12,040 --> 02:43:14,760
I'm not saying there's no bands, he's saying that the

2368
02:43:14,959 --> 02:43:20,399
charts are dominated by single solo artists. That the system

2369
02:43:20,559 --> 02:43:25,399
and the record industry whatever's left of that, that's really

2370
02:43:25,479 --> 02:43:33,840
what they promote now. So it was an interesting video.

2371
02:43:34,600 --> 02:43:36,600
I obviously I don't really keep up with the music

2372
02:43:36,639 --> 02:43:38,840
industry because it seemed like music, and it was pretty

2373
02:43:39,200 --> 02:43:41,840
it was pretty much dead like ten fifteen years ago, right,

2374
02:43:42,040 --> 02:43:44,719
Wasn't it pretty much like going away because pretty much

2375
02:43:44,760 --> 02:43:48,639
all of the musicians were figuring out, Okay, I gotta

2376
02:43:48,680 --> 02:43:51,000
have my own website and people just are gonna download

2377
02:43:51,040 --> 02:43:54,600
this stuff. So the only way to make money is

2378
02:43:54,680 --> 02:43:57,280
to tour, like the bands figured that out like fifteen

2379
02:43:57,319 --> 02:43:57,639
years ago.

2380
02:43:57,760 --> 02:43:57,879
Speaker 18: Right.

2381
02:44:03,479 --> 02:44:08,680
Speaker 6: But yeah, well that's what he says. The pop stars

2382
02:44:08,760 --> 02:44:12,479
have like this army of people that the production and

2383
02:44:12,639 --> 02:44:15,959
record companies are providing to make them into these products.

2384
02:44:17,159 --> 02:44:20,399
And I think this is really signaling the end of

2385
02:44:21,680 --> 02:44:25,760
what we have thought of as like rock and roll

2386
02:44:25,879 --> 02:44:29,639
bands and all that Isn't that weird? It's weird to think.

2387
02:44:29,719 --> 02:44:32,959
Imagine going back to the nineties and your nineties self

2388
02:44:33,000 --> 02:44:35,159
asking you being like, what's the future, Like, you know,

2389
02:44:35,239 --> 02:44:36,280
who are the musicians?

2390
02:44:36,920 --> 02:44:36,959
Speaker 25: Like?

2391
02:44:37,040 --> 02:44:38,840
Speaker 6: It would blow their mind if you started trying to

2392
02:44:38,879 --> 02:44:40,920
explain to them what it's like now in the future,

2393
02:44:41,600 --> 02:44:44,120
because it sounds like it would be ideal. Wit, everybody

2394
02:44:44,159 --> 02:44:45,399
can have their own website and they can do their

2395
02:44:45,399 --> 02:44:48,520
own stuff. That sounds ideal. Yeah, but it's not really ideal.

2396
02:44:49,799 --> 02:44:49,879
Speaker 25: Now.

2397
02:44:49,879 --> 02:44:52,799
Speaker 6: I understand bands have drama, but bands have drama back

2398
02:44:52,840 --> 02:44:56,120
when all of the top one hundred charting artists were

2399
02:44:56,159 --> 02:45:00,600
mostly bands. Yeah, I know, tame and But he's talking

2400
02:45:00,639 --> 02:45:03,159
about today's charts. Tam and Paula is not on the

2401
02:45:04,360 --> 02:45:08,200
top fifty right now or whatever, not saying there's no bands.

2402
02:45:08,239 --> 02:45:15,239
He's saying that bands are like fading away because record

2403
02:45:15,319 --> 02:45:19,840
companies would rather have this corporate team behind a single

2404
02:45:20,440 --> 02:45:25,239
Billie Eilish or Taylor Swift. That's what he's saying. Ooh,

2405
02:45:25,440 --> 02:45:30,600
interesting points since their hypocrite is dead internet theory applicable

2406
02:45:30,680 --> 02:45:38,760
to all of the other cultural institutions. Mmmm hmm interesting, Oh,

2407
02:45:38,879 --> 02:45:40,719
Tam and Paula is one guy I thought he I

2408
02:45:40,760 --> 02:45:42,159
thought he had a band. I didn't even know that.

2409
02:45:44,200 --> 02:45:45,920
I mean, I have the albums. I just assumed that

2410
02:45:45,959 --> 02:45:47,719
he had like backup or whatever. But you know what

2411
02:45:48,600 --> 02:45:50,600
Ed Cheran is this Ed Seron doesn't have a band.

2412
02:45:51,319 --> 02:45:53,360
I don't care for Ed Scheron, but Jamie really likes

2413
02:45:53,600 --> 02:45:55,120
Ed Shearon. I want to go. Wanted to go to

2414
02:45:55,159 --> 02:45:57,520
the concerts, so I bought her tickets a few months ago.

2415
02:45:59,799 --> 02:46:03,719
And what was interesting was that it's just him and

2416
02:46:03,799 --> 02:46:07,280
his like loop machine, right, so all the songs are him.

2417
02:46:07,600 --> 02:46:09,639
He did have like a couple of artists join him

2418
02:46:09,680 --> 02:46:12,280
for a collab, but it wasn't a backup band. So

2419
02:46:12,399 --> 02:46:18,079
even Ed Sheeran is like just one dude. Go check

2420
02:46:18,120 --> 02:46:20,479
out my video I did on dead Internet theory. It's

2421
02:46:20,520 --> 02:46:23,159
a kind of an extreme sort of I think I

2422
02:46:23,280 --> 02:46:28,639
see dead internet theory as more of a well, would

2423
02:46:28,680 --> 02:46:31,760
you say, more of a thought experiment, But there's some

2424
02:46:31,920 --> 02:46:36,079
truth to it, because the idea is it seemed like

2425
02:46:36,200 --> 02:46:39,600
around twenty fifteen sixteen, the internet seemed to really change.

2426
02:46:40,559 --> 02:46:42,760
Part of that, of course, was that Google and the

2427
02:46:42,799 --> 02:46:46,399
big tech companies the algorithm changed because of the drama

2428
02:46:46,559 --> 02:46:49,680
around the twenty sixteen election, right, Russia Gate and all that.

2429
02:46:51,280 --> 02:46:54,239
But the theory of internet theory goes further and says,

2430
02:46:54,600 --> 02:46:57,920
what if the Internet was largely flooded with AI and

2431
02:46:58,079 --> 02:47:01,879
bots at that time and that also contributing to the

2432
02:47:02,079 --> 02:47:08,319
large scale change in the way we feel and interact

2433
02:47:08,360 --> 02:47:13,479
with the Internet. Yeah, there could be something to that.

2434
02:47:18,799 --> 02:47:21,319
I mean, I definitely think. For example, I do a

2435
02:47:21,360 --> 02:47:25,520
lot of research obviously, and so you know before I'd

2436
02:47:25,600 --> 02:47:31,760
say from twenty from twenty sixteen to now, Google as

2437
02:47:31,799 --> 02:47:36,959
a search engine basically doesn't work because I would say

2438
02:47:37,200 --> 02:47:39,479
at least sixty to seventy percent of what you could

2439
02:47:39,479 --> 02:47:42,520
pull up back then you can't even find it anymore.

2440
02:47:44,600 --> 02:47:55,959
It's pretty wild. Do you remember AOL's AOL and CDs? Absolutely? Man,

2441
02:47:56,760 --> 02:48:01,559
did y'all watch my livestream? I did on like the nineties.

2442
02:48:01,799 --> 02:48:07,879
That was a fun livestream. So bands are disappearing? And

2443
02:48:08,239 --> 02:48:14,239
how has that internet theory perhaps affected the music genre? Well?

2444
02:48:14,840 --> 02:48:18,760
What about AI? Like how many tracks are AI tracks?

2445
02:48:18,879 --> 02:48:21,440
For example? As you guys remember when I sang my wonderful,

2446
02:48:21,479 --> 02:48:24,440
beautiful cringe core hit, the Matt Dillahunty song Matt Dila

2447
02:48:24,479 --> 02:48:29,639
Monkey Scooter produced this AI version in like no time

2448
02:48:30,040 --> 02:48:34,000
that was way more catchy than my original Matt Dila

2449
02:48:34,040 --> 02:48:37,520
Monkey song, and it sounded like a literal black choir

2450
02:48:38,840 --> 02:48:42,680
and something. Well, wait a minute, if the public AI

2451
02:48:43,200 --> 02:48:49,639
program can do this, maybe they've been doing AI music

2452
02:48:50,360 --> 02:48:55,040
for freaking who knows how long. And don't think that

2453
02:48:57,719 --> 02:49:02,840
the record companies wouldn't scam you by basically just like

2454
02:49:02,959 --> 02:49:05,879
imagine if you're I don't know, Miley Cyrus and the

2455
02:49:05,920 --> 02:49:11,399
record company says, we click the button a few times

2456
02:49:11,479 --> 02:49:14,959
and like the AI spit out twenty new Amiley Cyrus songs.

2457
02:49:20,879 --> 02:49:26,840
You gotta think that's happening, right, Let's see check this out.

2458
02:49:32,719 --> 02:49:36,120
So this is AI. What's the program called Suno or

2459
02:49:36,159 --> 02:49:42,360
something like that. I mean, this sounds like a black

2460
02:49:42,520 --> 02:49:45,040
choir from the seventies or earth Wind and Fire or

2461
02:49:45,120 --> 02:49:50,479
something producing some kind of big R and B soulful ballad.

2462
02:49:52,159 --> 02:49:55,120
It doesn't sound I mean, it kind of sounds AI.

2463
02:49:55,239 --> 02:49:57,520
But I'm sure that if you're a zillionaire, you have

2464
02:49:57,639 --> 02:49:59,200
access to a better AI than this.

2465
02:49:59,440 --> 02:50:02,000
Speaker 15: Right until the monkeys.

2466
02:50:02,879 --> 02:50:08,079
Speaker 2: You find up in that tree? What you doing up there?

2467
02:50:09,319 --> 02:50:14,879
Why you scarce? Why you run it from every de bad?

2468
02:50:16,520 --> 02:50:27,559
You ran from the true and from me? Man till

2469
02:50:27,639 --> 02:50:33,559
the monkeys like the semail monkeys.

2470
02:50:33,040 --> 02:50:40,840
Speaker 52: With tumbanantas between the trees hanging down upside down. That's

2471
02:50:40,840 --> 02:50:55,399
a smile, the SMI man telling monkey, what you doing

2472
02:50:55,559 --> 02:50:56,040
to me?

2473
02:50:56,840 --> 02:50:58,760
Speaker 1: Till until a monkey.

2474
02:51:00,200 --> 02:51:00,680
Speaker 9: The mall.

2475
02:51:22,159 --> 02:51:26,760
Speaker 6: You get the point. So if this public goofy Ai

2476
02:51:26,879 --> 02:51:30,360
can spit out something that good, you know that a zillionaire,

2477
02:51:30,479 --> 02:51:36,520
billionaire record company with access to something fancier could spit

2478
02:51:36,639 --> 02:51:44,799
out something better. You know what I mean? Anyway, so

2479
02:51:44,920 --> 02:51:49,600
I'm starting to think too. I mean, I don't believe

2480
02:51:49,639 --> 02:51:52,840
Mendela effect. I think it's Mendel effect is stupid. But

2481
02:51:54,159 --> 02:51:57,959
what if they're trying to My theory is, what if

2482
02:51:57,959 --> 02:52:03,760
they're trying to like erase aspects of culture, maybe as

2483
02:52:03,760 --> 02:52:06,000
an experiment, or maybe they're actually trying to do it.

2484
02:52:07,840 --> 02:52:12,200
I mean, we all saw what the search engines a

2485
02:52:12,280 --> 02:52:14,600
few weeks ago, a few months ago, remember that when

2486
02:52:15,760 --> 02:52:18,719
all of the people in history were suddenly brothers and sisters.

2487
02:52:20,040 --> 02:52:24,200
Now no offense to my brothers and sisters, but listen, y'all,

2488
02:52:24,319 --> 02:52:29,239
are not all of the people in history? Okay? And

2489
02:52:29,360 --> 02:52:34,000
remember this Google and other this sort of scandal while back,

2490
02:52:34,399 --> 02:52:37,440
and then they said, oh, this is a mistake. But

2491
02:52:37,840 --> 02:52:45,559
so basically AI spat out African and Black versions of

2492
02:52:45,639 --> 02:52:53,319
every person in history by mistake. So I'm thinking, okay,

2493
02:52:53,360 --> 02:52:54,840
well so wait a minute. So there we see a

2494
02:52:54,920 --> 02:52:58,719
window into what could be an example or a means

2495
02:52:58,799 --> 02:53:05,200
by which you could try to erase history. And if

2496
02:53:05,239 --> 02:53:07,719
you think about Maoism, remember they tried to do this

2497
02:53:07,879 --> 02:53:12,399
with the Culture Revolution that Mao ran and Mao like

2498
02:53:12,920 --> 02:53:22,159
energized and used the youth to try to erase history. Yeah, exactly,

2499
02:53:22,440 --> 02:53:26,879
it was intentional. Yeah, So if mal was an example

2500
02:53:26,959 --> 02:53:30,319
of that erasing of history and rewriting it, all of

2501
02:53:30,399 --> 02:53:33,760
these crazy cult people in this woke you know, CRT

2502
02:53:34,120 --> 02:53:36,120
d I, S DG cult like they're going to do

2503
02:53:36,159 --> 02:53:38,440
the same stuff, right that They're willing to do whatever

2504
02:53:38,600 --> 02:53:45,760
to erase history. So now you know, so what if

2505
02:53:45,840 --> 02:53:55,559
they're experimenting with erasing things to see if they can

2506
02:53:56,639 --> 02:53:59,000
maybe get away with it, erasing certain things like could

2507
02:53:59,040 --> 02:54:02,200
that be elements of what people think is Mandela effect?

2508
02:54:02,239 --> 02:54:06,000
I think most Mandela effect nonsense is just people misremembering events.

2509
02:54:14,399 --> 02:54:17,000
Kirk Cobain was black. I always thought. I mean, I

2510
02:54:17,079 --> 02:54:18,040
knew that a long time ago.

2511
02:54:18,760 --> 02:54:18,879
Speaker 18: Right.

2512
02:54:18,959 --> 02:54:21,319
Speaker 6: I got a painting of Kurt Cobain and the paint

2513
02:54:21,479 --> 02:54:25,479
has darkened. That's what you people think. No, No, the

2514
02:54:25,559 --> 02:54:30,600
paint didn't darken. Kirk Cobain was always a brother. That's

2515
02:54:30,639 --> 02:54:38,360
what you Gu's what you got wrong. Anyway, what if?

2516
02:54:43,200 --> 02:54:45,600
What if there's going to be an attempt to create

2517
02:54:45,719 --> 02:54:55,559
totally fictional history. You see what I'm saying, And I

2518
02:54:55,639 --> 02:54:57,639
think that's very plausible. That's why I think it's more

2519
02:54:57,680 --> 02:55:00,440
important to have physical copies of stuff. That's why we

2520
02:55:00,520 --> 02:55:02,959
got so many books. I got two different libraries.

2521
02:55:03,639 --> 02:55:03,799
Speaker 44: Why.

2522
02:55:04,000 --> 02:55:07,760
Speaker 6: Well, because a lot of this stuff they're going to

2523
02:55:07,799 --> 02:55:09,959
try to get rid of it. I mean, all these

2524
02:55:10,000 --> 02:55:14,680
sci fi dystopian stories like Fahrenheit four fifty one, they're

2525
02:55:14,719 --> 02:55:17,360
not just dystopian stories. These are like what they're going

2526
02:55:17,440 --> 02:55:23,719
to do. And today, when I was looking at my

2527
02:55:23,840 --> 02:55:27,239
stupid music collection on Apple, I hate using Apple's music collection.

2528
02:55:28,360 --> 02:55:32,639
But because cars don't have CDs anymore, you have to

2529
02:55:32,760 --> 02:55:34,000
if you want to listen to music in your car,

2530
02:55:34,079 --> 02:55:35,639
you have to have it all on the stupid phone.

2531
02:55:36,639 --> 02:55:43,719
So I'm looking on here and I was thinking about, say,

2532
02:55:43,799 --> 02:55:47,319
old Oasis CDs that I had, and I'm almost certain

2533
02:55:47,399 --> 02:55:52,559
that I had a two disc live track familiar to

2534
02:55:52,639 --> 02:55:56,639
millions that had a song on it. And when you

2535
02:55:56,719 --> 02:55:59,399
go and look, now, I could be misremembering. This could

2536
02:55:59,399 --> 02:56:04,559
be a actual case of misremembering something. But when you

2537
02:56:04,639 --> 02:56:08,280
look on the online versions of albums, and this isn't

2538
02:56:08,360 --> 02:56:10,440
just a case, and this is random Oasis example that

2539
02:56:10,719 --> 02:56:14,000
I've noticed a lot of different online Apple versions of

2540
02:56:14,079 --> 02:56:17,399
these downloads, I don't think these are all the same.

2541
02:56:17,440 --> 02:56:18,799
I heard a song the other day and I'm like,

2542
02:56:18,920 --> 02:56:22,559
that's not the song from the nineties. That's some weird version,

2543
02:56:22,600 --> 02:56:26,000
but it was presented as if that was the normative

2544
02:56:26,120 --> 02:56:28,040
version of that song. I forget which example this was.

2545
02:56:28,120 --> 02:56:35,000
This is a different example, and I wonder how many

2546
02:56:35,120 --> 02:56:36,840
cases of things being changed like this.

2547
02:56:37,040 --> 02:56:37,159
Speaker 7: Now.

2548
02:56:37,239 --> 02:56:41,120
Speaker 6: Somebody pulled up a Disney example the other day where

2549
02:56:41,680 --> 02:56:44,399
I've never watched Lelo and Stitch, but apparently Disney has

2550
02:56:44,559 --> 02:56:48,680
gone back and changed and they showed the two different versions,

2551
02:56:48,719 --> 02:56:51,159
like they've actually changed the Lelo and Stitch to make

2552
02:56:51,239 --> 02:56:56,319
her not be jumping into a dryer. And my suspicion

2553
02:56:56,440 --> 02:56:59,719
is that people complained because a child could see that

2554
02:57:00,079 --> 02:57:02,879
jumping a dryer and get stuck in there. But what

2555
02:57:02,959 --> 02:57:06,040
they changed it to is like an look like an oven,

2556
02:57:06,239 --> 02:57:08,760
or like a that's even worse, right, or like something

2557
02:57:08,799 --> 02:57:12,000
to do with like do Why are you in here

2558
02:57:12,040 --> 02:57:14,600
asking about my personal life? Yes, I'm married, and you're

2559
02:57:14,639 --> 02:57:19,719
not here to promote other people's discourse. Get out of

2560
02:57:19,719 --> 02:57:32,000
here anyway? Who's cooking me in the chat? What are

2561
02:57:32,040 --> 02:57:32,559
you talking about?

2562
02:57:35,840 --> 02:57:36,000
Speaker 25: Well?

2563
02:57:36,239 --> 02:57:39,239
Speaker 6: I understand the dryer thing makes sense, because it makes

2564
02:57:39,239 --> 02:57:42,200
sense to not have that in the show. But what

2565
02:57:42,280 --> 02:57:45,319
I'm saying is that, well, that's one example in that case,

2566
02:57:45,360 --> 02:57:49,840
But what about what do you mean you can't hit

2567
02:57:49,920 --> 02:57:52,159
donate on stream labs. You can donate one hundred dollars.

2568
02:57:52,440 --> 02:57:56,719
I welcome it, please do I mean we've had people

2569
02:57:56,760 --> 02:57:57,600
donate five hundred.

2570
02:57:57,600 --> 02:57:57,920
Speaker 1: You can do it.

2571
02:57:57,920 --> 02:58:03,680
Speaker 6: You can do a hundred. Does anybody have any other

2572
02:58:03,760 --> 02:58:09,920
examples of things where books were changed, albums and CDs

2573
02:58:09,959 --> 02:58:12,879
were changed, movies were changed. Because I think they're gonna

2574
02:58:12,920 --> 02:58:15,159
start doing this, and they've already said they're going to

2575
02:58:15,200 --> 02:58:17,360
start doing this. Remember they said we got to change

2576
02:58:17,440 --> 02:58:23,280
and ban nineteen eighty four Tolkien, we got a ban

2577
02:58:24,079 --> 02:58:30,239
Ian fleming books. Who's cooking? I don't understand what's who's

2578
02:58:30,280 --> 02:58:36,360
cooking in the chat? Michael Heiser was a subscriber to

2579
02:58:36,559 --> 02:58:38,719
my website before he passed away, so people always ask

2580
02:58:38,760 --> 02:58:46,159
about Michael Heiser. But no, I'm not going to Speaker's corner.

2581
02:58:55,399 --> 02:58:57,399
They've already I know, they've already been changing stuff. That's

2582
02:58:57,440 --> 02:59:03,000
what I'm talking about. Oh, they banned episodes of It's

2583
02:59:03,040 --> 02:59:08,479
Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Interesting. They changed the ending of

2584
02:59:08,639 --> 02:59:15,799
the Six Star Wars to include Anakin. Interesting. They added

2585
02:59:15,840 --> 02:59:22,200
a disclaimer to Rush Hour. Wow. Well, the disclaimers is

2586
02:59:22,479 --> 02:59:25,360
just the first stage before the banning. You see that?

2587
02:59:26,120 --> 02:59:28,719
I mean, did you notice that when Oasis said they

2588
02:59:28,760 --> 02:59:31,680
were getting back together, they were already the woke was

2589
02:59:31,719 --> 02:59:35,479
already going after Oasis over Noel playing with a guitar

2590
02:59:35,639 --> 02:59:40,239
that has the British flag. That's crazy. And Noel made

2591
02:59:40,280 --> 02:59:44,760
a joke about how stupid modern books work with all

2592
02:59:44,760 --> 02:59:49,479
their gay titles. So they like, this is getting crazy, man,

2593
02:59:50,520 --> 02:59:56,799
this is wild. They memory hold all the liberal comedians

2594
02:59:56,920 --> 03:00:00,799
doing ooh interesting. Yeah, so if you do that kind

2595
03:00:00,879 --> 03:00:05,600
of make up routine, the memory hold it. Yeah, did

2596
03:00:05,680 --> 03:00:09,959
you know there is a memory hold Don Henley song

2597
03:00:11,239 --> 03:00:13,760
funny thing. Alex will actually play this song every now

2598
03:00:13,799 --> 03:00:14,040
and then.

2599
03:00:14,440 --> 03:00:18,440
Speaker 15: It was an inside job for the well connected.

2600
03:00:19,760 --> 03:00:22,440
Speaker 6: That is a Don Henley song that you cannot find

2601
03:00:23,200 --> 03:00:29,719
except on I found it on Bitshoot of all places.

2602
03:00:31,440 --> 03:00:33,040
Now if you go look up. I mean I could

2603
03:00:33,079 --> 03:00:34,959
be wrong. Maybe I just wasn't. Maybe it was Don

2604
03:00:35,000 --> 03:00:37,840
Henley with some other band or something. But you cannot

2605
03:00:37,879 --> 03:00:42,840
find the song except on like platforms like that. Let

2606
03:00:42,920 --> 03:00:44,920
me show you what I'm talking about, because Don Henley

2607
03:00:44,920 --> 03:00:47,360
wrote the song right after the Big Nine about it

2608
03:00:47,520 --> 03:00:58,920
being an inside thing. Right, okay, here's oh here it's

2609
03:00:59,159 --> 03:01:05,959
I could not find this on YouTube. Okay, right, Interesting,

2610
03:01:06,799 --> 03:01:10,040
So I looked for the song a year ago and

2611
03:01:10,200 --> 03:01:14,639
you couldn't find it. It's interesting that it got put

2612
03:01:14,719 --> 03:01:21,920
up here one year ago. Oh wait a minute, when

2613
03:01:22,079 --> 03:01:24,239
was this song written? Two thousand?

2614
03:01:26,399 --> 03:01:26,440
Speaker 28: What?

2615
03:01:30,680 --> 03:01:30,840
Speaker 7: Now?

2616
03:01:31,120 --> 03:01:34,680
Speaker 6: Maybe you could say Don Hinley wrote this song and

2617
03:01:34,799 --> 03:01:42,719
it was just coincidence. I'm surprised that. See, even the

2618
03:01:42,760 --> 03:01:45,639
people in the chat are saying Don Henley knew about this.

2619
03:01:46,280 --> 03:01:48,440
John Hinley told us twenty four years ago what was

2620
03:01:48,479 --> 03:01:56,000
happening at the Big Nine. Never forget so the chat's

2621
03:01:56,040 --> 03:01:58,399
all like, yeah, bro, we know this is talking about

2622
03:01:58,559 --> 03:02:05,559
Big nine event. While you were sleeping, they came and

2623
03:02:05,600 --> 03:02:07,200
took it away. The lanes and the metal is a

2624
03:02:07,200 --> 03:02:10,159
place where you used to play. It wasn't inside job

2625
03:02:10,840 --> 03:02:14,440
by the well connected. Your little protest was summarily rejected.

2626
03:02:14,920 --> 03:02:17,959
It wasn't inside job like it always is. Chalk it

2627
03:02:18,040 --> 03:02:20,959
up to business as usual. While we were dreaming, this

2628
03:02:21,079 --> 03:02:26,040
little island disappeared. They took away the right to your

2629
03:02:26,040 --> 03:02:32,760
own ideas. It wasn't inside job. Favors collected, your trusted servants,

2630
03:02:33,200 --> 03:02:37,799
your politicians left you unpredicted. It was an inside job.

2631
03:02:39,159 --> 03:02:41,239
You think you're smart business as usual. You don't have

2632
03:02:41,280 --> 03:02:45,440
an f and clue. But those men up in the towers,

2633
03:02:48,559 --> 03:02:50,920
what they're doing to me and you? This is written

2634
03:02:50,920 --> 03:02:58,360
in two thousand. Wow. Anyway, this was not on YouTube

2635
03:02:58,399 --> 03:03:00,520
for a long time. You could only find on bitch.

2636
03:03:00,639 --> 03:03:10,520
I'm surprised they put it back on you too. By

2637
03:03:10,520 --> 03:03:12,399
the way, I'm not saying that makes Don Henley some

2638
03:03:12,520 --> 03:03:16,159
kind of hero. I don't. I don't have any. I

2639
03:03:16,239 --> 03:03:18,440
mean the Eagles are listed as like a Laurel Canyon

2640
03:03:18,520 --> 03:03:22,879
type of band, and most of these boomer rock and

2641
03:03:23,000 --> 03:03:25,200
roll and people are like the worst, dude, They're like

2642
03:03:25,360 --> 03:03:28,920
total garbage people. I'm not saying Don Henley is I

2643
03:03:28,959 --> 03:03:30,719
don't know. I haven't followed Don Henley. I don't keep

2644
03:03:30,760 --> 03:03:33,079
up with the boomer bands. But like if you go

2645
03:03:33,200 --> 03:03:37,600
on Twitter and you look up like Pink Floyd members profiles,

2646
03:03:37,680 --> 03:03:43,040
it's all the latest like whatever, like Ukraine flag transflag,

2647
03:03:43,239 --> 03:03:44,920
like that's that's all they do is put up the

2648
03:03:45,000 --> 03:03:46,239
worst shit imaginable.

2649
03:03:46,360 --> 03:03:52,600
Speaker 15: Right, it was an inside job. Mother Will connected.

2650
03:03:54,000 --> 03:03:57,639
Speaker 6: Zalmox is five dollars. How did third mcabies get into

2651
03:03:57,680 --> 03:04:02,959
the cannon? To my knowledge, there's no council that ratifies it.

2652
03:04:03,120 --> 03:04:05,760
I mean it's in the canon because it's I mean,

2653
03:04:05,840 --> 03:04:09,280
I just assumed it's part of the Maccabean text that

2654
03:04:10,559 --> 03:04:22,120
Trollo affirms. So Trelo affirms what the the African Canon's affirms, right,

2655
03:04:24,280 --> 03:04:28,559
But actually as to why the Roman Catholic canon doesn't

2656
03:04:28,600 --> 03:04:30,719
have it and the Orthodox canon does, I'm not actually

2657
03:04:30,760 --> 03:04:34,799
sure why. It probably goes back to the fact that

2658
03:04:35,920 --> 03:04:40,360
the Orthodox canon is what Trollo accepts from the African Synods,

2659
03:04:40,639 --> 03:04:43,559
and the Roman Catholic Canon is from the Roman Council

2660
03:04:43,719 --> 03:04:48,200
of Pope Damasis and what Augustine listed. So that's probably

2661
03:04:48,440 --> 03:04:53,319
the origin of the disagreement. But why the Catholics didn't

2662
03:04:53,360 --> 03:04:56,639
include it, I don't actually know. Zelmax is five dollars.

2663
03:04:56,959 --> 03:05:00,239
One more question. Do you have any recommended reading to

2664
03:05:00,280 --> 03:05:04,280
get up to day on the history of Islam. I mean,

2665
03:05:04,319 --> 03:05:06,200
there's a lot you could read about Islam, there's not

2666
03:05:06,239 --> 03:05:08,479
really any I don't know of an easy book to

2667
03:05:08,559 --> 03:05:12,319
start reading. I would say, start watching Sam's debates, Sam's

2668
03:05:12,399 --> 03:05:15,520
channel on all the islam stuff. Go watch the Doctor

2669
03:05:15,600 --> 03:05:22,200
khalil uh talk that I shared. The Doctor Khalil talk

2670
03:05:22,799 --> 03:05:25,319
has him beginning to go through the schools. So the

2671
03:05:25,399 --> 03:05:27,360
first thing you're going gonna want to learn about Islam

2672
03:05:27,479 --> 03:05:31,559
is the first early few centuries, the disputes between the Mutazila,

2673
03:05:31,639 --> 03:05:35,920
the Muta Kalaimam, the what's called the Authori or the Salafi.

2674
03:05:36,399 --> 03:05:40,719
Those are the early Area Area era disputes. You're gonna

2675
03:05:40,760 --> 03:05:43,440
want to listen to doctor Khalil's talk to understand the

2676
03:05:43,520 --> 03:05:46,479
basic schools. So you want to understand the difference between

2677
03:05:46,479 --> 03:05:52,319
the Authari, the Maturidi, the Shari, and then the Shia,

2678
03:05:52,600 --> 03:05:59,879
who are the neoplatonic faction of Iran. So so the

2679
03:06:00,040 --> 03:06:05,000
first three school those are schools within Sunni Islam. Shea

2680
03:06:05,159 --> 03:06:08,559
are very different. They descend from a different line of Islam.

2681
03:06:08,600 --> 03:06:12,520
So you're gonna want to learn all that stuff. So anyway,

2682
03:06:12,639 --> 03:06:16,680
there's not an easy I don't know about A. I'm

2683
03:06:16,680 --> 03:06:19,840
sure there is something comparable to Philip Schaft's history of

2684
03:06:19,879 --> 03:06:22,120
the church, but I don't know what that would be.

2685
03:06:22,479 --> 03:06:24,719
Go ask doctor Khalil. He would know better than me,

2686
03:06:24,840 --> 03:06:29,799
since you're Hippi or three dollars or Sam Shuman. Even

2687
03:06:29,799 --> 03:06:31,680
a couple of years ago, there was a writer strike

2688
03:06:31,760 --> 03:06:34,760
in Hollywood. Yeah, remember that were I was we were

2689
03:06:34,840 --> 03:06:37,799
gonna do a trying to do that first live stream

2690
03:06:37,840 --> 03:06:40,840
with Jimmy Kennedy around that time. One of the concerns

2691
03:06:40,879 --> 03:06:43,959
with the writers was that AI was going to regurgitate stuff.

2692
03:06:44,000 --> 03:06:46,760
Oh exactly, yeah, exactly. This makes you wonder if modern

2693
03:06:46,799 --> 03:06:52,559
movies aren't actually using AI and Marvel the Universe or

2694
03:06:52,600 --> 03:06:54,959
whatever to script mass produced movies. Oh, I bet they are.

2695
03:06:55,280 --> 03:06:58,559
I bet they are. Yeah exactly. I forgot about that

2696
03:06:58,600 --> 03:07:04,000
writer's strike over AI. That's a great point. AUGUSTA ten

2697
03:07:04,079 --> 03:07:09,399
dollars small token appreciation. I've learned everything For everything, I've

2698
03:07:09,440 --> 03:07:12,120
learned about my faith here from this channel. Thank you, God,

2699
03:07:12,159 --> 03:07:14,159
bless you and Jamie happy piece of exaltation.

2700
03:07:14,280 --> 03:07:14,479
Speaker 35: Thank you.

2701
03:07:14,520 --> 03:07:16,399
Speaker 6: Well, we're on the old calendar, but I appreciate that.

2702
03:07:16,520 --> 03:07:18,159
Thank you for the job. Five dollars. Do you think

2703
03:07:18,200 --> 03:07:20,799
blad Under twenty forty four seen where K has to

2704
03:07:20,840 --> 03:07:24,159
get permission to go into the Oh I forgot about this.

2705
03:07:26,040 --> 03:07:28,120
He has to get permission to go into the old

2706
03:07:28,239 --> 03:07:29,600
world's Internet archive.

2707
03:07:29,840 --> 03:07:30,040
Speaker 27: Ah.

2708
03:07:30,399 --> 03:07:34,639
Speaker 6: Interesting, yeah, I think that. You know, Alex a long

2709
03:07:34,719 --> 03:07:39,799
time ago was saying that eventually this present Internet will

2710
03:07:39,799 --> 03:07:42,840
be scrapped, and it used to be called Internet too.

2711
03:07:45,159 --> 03:07:49,000
I don't know why they quit using that language of terminology.

2712
03:07:50,760 --> 03:07:54,440
Maybe the people in the cryptosphere that talk about Web three,

2713
03:07:55,280 --> 03:07:58,479
maybe that's what they're referring to the latest instantiation of

2714
03:08:00,760 --> 03:08:02,520
what they used to call Internet two. Back this was

2715
03:08:02,600 --> 03:08:05,799
like twenty years ago. They were calling the future Internet

2716
03:08:05,840 --> 03:08:08,399
will be called Internet two and the present Internet will

2717
03:08:08,399 --> 03:08:11,239
be scrapped. It won't exist anymore. But like you said,

2718
03:08:11,239 --> 03:08:14,159
it'd be like some weird archives somewhere that you know,

2719
03:08:14,280 --> 03:08:18,799
only the global elite had access to. I think that's so. Yeah,

2720
03:08:18,840 --> 03:08:20,680
that's something to that, and I totally forgot about this

2721
03:08:20,799 --> 03:08:25,040
section in Blade Runner twenty forty nine. That's fascinating. I

2722
03:08:25,200 --> 03:08:28,520
have to go back and watch that. Since Irrea gret

2723
03:08:28,559 --> 03:08:32,719
three dollars. There's an actress named Deborah Wilson whose likeness

2724
03:08:32,799 --> 03:08:35,040
was scanned into many modern video games. Well, this was

2725
03:08:35,079 --> 03:08:37,760
in the movie The Congress by with Robin Wright. So

2726
03:08:38,000 --> 03:08:40,200
we actually did some it's almost ten years ago that

2727
03:08:40,280 --> 03:08:43,200
we were doing podcasts. I think we did a boiler room.

2728
03:08:44,719 --> 03:08:46,680
We did a boiler room where we talked about The

2729
03:08:46,840 --> 03:08:54,520
Congress by Robin Wright. And if you've never seen this movie,

2730
03:08:54,520 --> 03:08:57,840
everybody should go watch this because it was an overlooked

2731
03:08:57,959 --> 03:09:02,280
dystopian film that pretty much predictable wreck. Yeah, so we're

2732
03:09:02,520 --> 03:09:06,280
exactly ten years ago and I was doing you know what,

2733
03:09:06,319 --> 03:09:07,760
I got to put this in the next the new

2734
03:09:07,840 --> 03:09:10,680
estaty Hollywood. This has got to go in there because

2735
03:09:10,680 --> 03:09:30,360
this was a really important, predictive film. So basically, i'll

2736
03:09:30,520 --> 03:09:32,200
tell you the premise. I won't spoil it for you,

2737
03:09:32,319 --> 03:09:39,719
but the actress Robin Wright from The Princess Bride, she

2738
03:09:39,879 --> 03:09:43,479
goes to Harvey Kayitel, who's like a studio guy or whatever,

2739
03:09:44,280 --> 03:09:47,479
and she says, as the actress, you know, I'm gonna

2740
03:09:47,520 --> 03:09:49,760
have to retire. I can't really do movies. I've got

2741
03:09:49,799 --> 03:09:52,239
a son who's got, you know, to be tended to.

2742
03:09:52,319 --> 03:09:55,920
He's got medical issues. And Harvey kytell says, well, let

2743
03:09:56,000 --> 03:09:59,680
the studio buy your image and likeness. And she's like,

2744
03:10:00,319 --> 03:10:02,360
what do you mean, how could that be? He says, well,

2745
03:10:02,360 --> 03:10:08,280
we've got this new technology where we will scan your

2746
03:10:08,319 --> 03:10:12,280
whole body, like all of the angles of your body,

2747
03:10:12,360 --> 03:10:15,239
and you're all of your facial expressions, the whole range

2748
03:10:15,360 --> 03:10:18,399
of emotions. Here's this big thing. She goes and stands

2749
03:10:18,440 --> 03:10:21,879
in r here. So this is all cameras, right, and

2750
03:10:22,040 --> 03:10:26,639
so they're they're creating this digital deep fake version of her. Okay,

2751
03:10:28,479 --> 03:10:31,920
and the movie, as he says, this is the near future, right,

2752
03:10:32,239 --> 03:10:34,879
they changed her future. So here she is being scanned in.

2753
03:10:35,000 --> 03:10:37,680
She doesn't really understand what this is all about, but

2754
03:10:37,840 --> 03:10:39,799
she needed the money and she wasn't going to be

2755
03:10:39,920 --> 03:10:45,239
acting anymore. So the studio was telling her and everyone

2756
03:10:45,319 --> 03:10:50,399
that they would be doing this, and it flashes forward

2757
03:10:51,319 --> 03:10:54,200
to here's metaverse. Now they don't call it this, but

2758
03:10:55,120 --> 03:10:59,879
so basically it's some undefined near future everyone lives in

2759
03:11:00,000 --> 03:11:03,520
the We'll call it the metaverse. The virch whatever virtual world.

2760
03:11:03,959 --> 03:11:07,479
So the Internet becomes this, it becomes this like three

2761
03:11:07,600 --> 03:11:13,159
dimensional space where you like walk around as whatever avatar

2762
03:11:13,239 --> 03:11:17,479
you want to be. So here's Robin Wright interacting with

2763
03:11:19,079 --> 03:11:23,280
the Tom Cruise avatar in the year twenty thirty or something, right,

2764
03:11:25,159 --> 03:11:30,159
And then the movie gets really crazy because it you

2765
03:11:30,239 --> 03:11:35,200
got to see this part. Let's skip past it. It's

2766
03:11:35,280 --> 03:11:39,799
very surreal. So basically in the real time period of

2767
03:11:39,840 --> 03:11:43,079
the future, people are all walking around with the goggles

2768
03:11:43,159 --> 03:11:45,360
on their face. Let's see, there's a picture of it.

2769
03:11:47,920 --> 03:11:50,399
So everyone is basically living in the slums. It's like

2770
03:11:50,520 --> 03:11:56,680
total you know, filthy dirt, poor everybody, right, And I

2771
03:11:56,719 --> 03:11:58,360
don't know why this image doesn't have them where in

2772
03:11:58,399 --> 03:12:01,440
the goggles. But in another scene, everyone's wearing the goggles

2773
03:12:01,760 --> 03:12:04,280
to be on the Internet all the time. So there's

2774
03:12:04,319 --> 03:12:07,719
basically a giant dystopian world. But everyone lives in internet

2775
03:12:08,200 --> 03:12:15,840
dystopia world dressed like, you know, wearing you know, tattered

2776
03:12:15,959 --> 03:12:21,079
rags basically. So I won't spoil the movie where it goes,

2777
03:12:21,159 --> 03:12:24,840
but it actually goes way into the future, like it

2778
03:12:24,920 --> 03:12:28,280
goes really wild. It's a crazy movie, but everyone should

2779
03:12:28,319 --> 03:12:34,239
see it. It's a very predictive, relevant, relevant film for

2780
03:12:34,319 --> 03:12:38,159
where we have gone. And again, we were doing boiler

2781
03:12:38,200 --> 03:12:40,920
rooms on this ten years ago when it came out.

2782
03:12:41,079 --> 03:12:49,520
I wonder if I could find that I should have

2783
03:12:49,559 --> 03:12:51,799
put this in the first Turk cabb what I forgot

2784
03:12:51,840 --> 03:13:08,680
to do it? Though, Let's see if it comes up. No, man,

2785
03:13:08,760 --> 03:13:11,639
those old boiler rooms from like twenty fifteen. Man, they're like,

2786
03:13:13,280 --> 03:13:16,479
that's like the future. Man. We were like spot on.

2787
03:13:16,719 --> 03:13:23,760
Not everything. We probably we probably got maybe fifteen percent

2788
03:13:23,799 --> 03:13:27,000
of stuff wrong, but I'd say eighty to eighty five

2789
03:13:27,040 --> 03:13:29,040
percent of stuff. We were pretty spot on as to

2790
03:13:29,079 --> 03:13:30,920
where we would be going in the future. I mean,

2791
03:13:30,959 --> 03:13:34,280
we talked about stabbyes, we talked about the normalization of

2792
03:13:34,559 --> 03:13:39,760
where we're at with human sexuality. We talked about tracking

2793
03:13:39,840 --> 03:13:44,799
and Tracy, and we talked about I mean a lot

2794
03:13:44,879 --> 03:13:47,840
of stuff. We were spot on AI and deep fake

2795
03:13:47,879 --> 03:13:57,239
where that was gonna go anyway, My boy, let's see

2796
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since their hypocrite, said Deborah Wilson's likeness has scanned into

2797
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many video games. I'm not sure who that is, but

2798
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it could always be a possibility that in the future

2799
03:14:08,520 --> 03:14:10,399
they won't even need actors. Well, that's what the movie.

2800
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The Congress is about exactly. Schmevin Schmirk one hundred dollars,

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you promise not to read any more Latin documents on

2803
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this stream. Hey, uh, you know what, nobody would rather

2804
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retire from reading boring Latin trad documents on screen than

2805
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me because we've been doing this for so many years now,

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We've had so many hours of so many podcasts of

2807
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going through Denzinger and all this boring stuff. I should

2808
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have just skipped it. But for the first hour that's

2809
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all anybody wanted. The whole chat was just talking about that.

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and more toxically masculine. So big advocate for Chalk. They

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are our sponsor, have been for three years maybe maybe

2889
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even moving on to almost three years. About three years

2890
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so maybe maybe four. So shout out to Chalk. And

2891
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then what else do we do?

2892
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Speaker 18: Well?

2893
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Speaker 6: I try to eat a pretty strict as best I

2894
03:19:30,680 --> 03:19:36,280
can carnivore diet. We also try to mitigate that with

2895
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fasting and so forth with what the church requires. Don't

2896
03:19:40,040 --> 03:19:41,879
always live up to that, but that's what we shoot

2897
03:19:41,920 --> 03:19:45,920
for as best we can. That will depend on your

2898
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health situation as to what's right for you. I'm not

2899
03:19:47,959 --> 03:19:51,680
telling you what to do, and then we go to that.

2900
03:19:51,760 --> 03:19:54,000
We go to the gym on average three times a week,

2901
03:19:54,200 --> 03:19:56,840
so Jamie and I are in a pretty regular GEM

2902
03:19:56,959 --> 03:19:58,959
swing now three times a week. So I would say

2903
03:19:59,840 --> 03:20:03,639
the those things. We also do pretty extensive walks. I'm

2904
03:20:03,639 --> 03:20:06,639
not a big runner. If I am in the in

2905
03:20:06,760 --> 03:20:10,280
the in the mode of playing basketball, I'll run playing basketball,

2906
03:20:10,399 --> 03:20:13,399
but I don't like go out and run typically. But

2907
03:20:13,680 --> 03:20:16,719
Jimy and I do also do pretty long walks on

2908
03:20:16,840 --> 03:20:23,760
the regular. So my main health things are gem really

2909
03:20:23,840 --> 03:20:28,520
I'm talking about like two three mile walks on the

2910
03:20:28,559 --> 03:20:33,799
regular and uh, you know, pretty strict diet, no seed oils.

2911
03:20:34,559 --> 03:20:38,040
I don't eat candy. I don't need a lot of carbs.

2912
03:20:38,079 --> 03:20:41,879
I don't need sugars, very little of those. Unless my

2913
03:20:42,040 --> 03:20:45,120
beatus is attacking and I'm getting angry at people, then

2914
03:20:45,120 --> 03:20:46,319
I got to have a little bit of a ginger

2915
03:20:46,440 --> 03:20:49,760
chew to calm down. So those are my My health

2916
03:20:49,799 --> 03:20:52,200
regiment is very simple, it's not too extensive. I do

2917
03:20:52,360 --> 03:20:56,879
take supplements, I do take chalk that kind of stuff.

2918
03:20:56,959 --> 03:21:05,680
So that's my means. How do I say, mentally aware.

2919
03:21:05,680 --> 03:21:10,120
I drink a lot of coffee espresso. I also we've

2920
03:21:10,120 --> 03:21:13,680
been taking na I D's which have been pretty effective.

2921
03:21:13,719 --> 03:21:15,920
I think they work pretty good. We tried two different brands.

2922
03:21:16,000 --> 03:21:18,120
Both brands seem to work pretty good. I forget what

2923
03:21:18,399 --> 03:21:20,680
the names of those brands were. I don't know if

2924
03:21:20,719 --> 03:21:23,079
Chalk has those, I don't think. I think they're mainly

2925
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focused on bodily related stuff. But remember at Chalk they

2926
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also have female vitality stack too, so you can get

2927
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that and you don't have to buy the whole stack.

2928
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You can buy individual products too, So Shila is great,

2929
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Oshogonda is great, Irish moss for balancing out hormone levels

2930
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and ladies this kind of stuff. Guys, if you're going

2931
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to the gym, you want to get you need that energy.

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There's all kinds of different stacks over there for men,

2933
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2935
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for you. I'm a big fan of the is it

2936
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inn i ad I forget how it's how it's listed.

2937
03:22:03,040 --> 03:22:05,440
Sheila Jit's great. Yeah, so heading over to Chalk and

2938
03:22:05,559 --> 03:22:06,280
utilize that.

2939
03:22:09,079 --> 03:22:09,239
Speaker 18: Now.

2940
03:22:09,319 --> 03:22:14,120
Speaker 6: Remember also, I will be live doing some cringe core

2941
03:22:14,239 --> 03:22:20,760
live at top Lobster's event here. It's gonna be a

2942
03:22:20,799 --> 03:22:26,000
lot of fun. October twenty five and six in Florida,

2943
03:22:27,000 --> 03:22:32,639
We've got a stand up comedy. He's still figuring out

2944
03:22:32,680 --> 03:22:35,760
who he's getting to come do this at live podcasts.

2945
03:22:36,479 --> 03:22:38,680
There's gonna be some of the libertarian people there, some

2946
03:22:38,799 --> 03:22:45,000
of the more people not libertarian there. There's gonna be comedians,

2947
03:22:45,200 --> 03:22:48,079
stand up. I'm gonna be harassing people with karaoke and

2948
03:22:51,680 --> 03:22:54,680
cringe Core. So if you want to see cringe Core live,

2949
03:22:55,120 --> 03:22:57,280
and I'm sure I'll be hanging out doing interviews with

2950
03:22:57,319 --> 03:23:00,239
people stuff too. October twenty five and twenty six. We'll

2951
03:23:00,280 --> 03:23:02,920
have our books. Yes, you can buy books there, So

2952
03:23:03,280 --> 03:23:07,040
get your tickets to Brohemian Grove over here at toplots

2953
03:23:07,120 --> 03:23:14,399
do dot com and the link is right there. So

2954
03:23:14,680 --> 03:23:17,760
we didn't really get into papal geopolitics or whatever. That's okay,

2955
03:23:17,959 --> 03:23:22,559
I can change the title. We did end up talking about,

2956
03:23:22,639 --> 03:23:26,200
well we kind of did. We didn't really talk about

2957
03:23:26,200 --> 03:23:28,000
the end Times. I might change this title because we

2958
03:23:28,000 --> 03:23:34,000
didn't really talk about the End Times. One World, Weird Order,

2959
03:23:36,040 --> 03:23:38,239
that's a better title. That's more of what we talked about.

2960
03:23:40,399 --> 03:23:44,479
We talked about pop culture, weird things in culture. I

2961
03:23:44,479 --> 03:23:48,319
don't know. This is a fun stream. Oh we talked

2962
03:23:48,319 --> 03:23:51,639
a lot about those deconstructing my faith videos or whatever.

2963
03:23:51,639 --> 03:23:55,000
I forgot about that I've been. Who am I rated by?

2964
03:23:55,040 --> 03:23:57,600
Would even have been rated? I don't understand what's happening.

2965
03:24:03,399 --> 03:24:05,040
All right, Thank you guys, a lot of fun today.

2966
03:24:05,079 --> 03:24:07,760
Appreciate the super chatters. Be sure and get the signed

2967
03:24:07,799 --> 03:24:09,200
copies of the But we didn't really go through all

2968
03:24:09,200 --> 03:24:10,760
the books, and I had a lot of books I

2969
03:24:10,840 --> 03:24:13,840
was going to talk about, you know, classic famous books

2970
03:24:14,079 --> 03:24:15,000
that we've been, that we've read.