1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,759 Speaker 1: I turn around and I see the mattress sinking in, 2 00:00:05,919 --> 00:00:07,599 but there's nobody nothing there. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,759 Speaker 2: I get up, I run through, and I run outside 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:12,599 to the front door. 5 00:00:20,559 --> 00:00:25,679 Speaker 1: My name is James from Corpus Christi, and these are 6 00:00:25,719 --> 00:00:30,320 stories of events that have happened in my life, mostly 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:38,520 in my grandma's house. When I was young, I lived 8 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,640 with my mother and my father. They went their separate ways. 9 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,679 I was about five years old and I moved with 10 00:00:48,719 --> 00:00:52,200 my father into his parents' house, so I was with 11 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:57,719 my grandma and grandpa from his side. The way their 12 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,439 house was set up is when you go through the gate, 13 00:01:01,039 --> 00:01:04,719 you have the porch. You enter through the front door, 14 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,400 and you are in the living room. When you go 15 00:01:08,519 --> 00:01:12,719 past the living room, you are in the kitchen and 16 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:19,439 dining room area. Directly taking a left from there, you 17 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,840 can see a hallway that goes through the length of 18 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,920 the house. When you look straight across of that hallway, 19 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,560 there was a bedroom there and that was the bedroom 20 00:01:30,599 --> 00:01:35,640 that I stayed. And looking left down the hallway you 21 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:40,519 can see directly into the door of my grandparents room 22 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:46,560 they slept in there. To the left of my bedroom 23 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,280 was a bathroom, and then to the right that was 24 00:01:51,359 --> 00:01:54,480 where my father's room was, but he never slept there. 25 00:01:54,599 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: He always slept on a mattress in the living room. 26 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: Looking down that hall, it was always darker than the 27 00:02:02,239 --> 00:02:09,599 rest of the hallway. I was being a five year 28 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:12,800 old child. I was throwing a tantrum about something. 29 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: I don't remember what. 30 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:18,479 Speaker 1: I received a spanking and I was told to go 31 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,960 to my room, and I went to my room crying. 32 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,439 I remember throwing myself on the floor and just throwing 33 00:02:26,479 --> 00:02:27,280 a tantrum. 34 00:02:28,759 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: When you enter the bedroom. 35 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,719 Speaker 1: You have about two paces before you pass the closet 36 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:38,719 that's on the right hand side, and I was on 37 00:02:38,759 --> 00:02:42,360 the floor close to it, and I heard something coming 38 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,960 from the closet. The closet was opening very slowly at first, 39 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,159 and I just kept looking into it, like I stopped crying. 40 00:02:50,159 --> 00:02:55,280 I was looking into there. All of a sudden, the 41 00:02:55,319 --> 00:02:59,639 closet just it swung open, and I started feeling the 42 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,759 since of being sucked in. I'm on the floor, I'm 43 00:03:03,759 --> 00:03:05,879 trying to kind of crawl out of the bedroom, and 44 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,719 I'm starting to cry and scream louder and louder, and 45 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,400 I feel this pulling sensation into the closet and I'm 46 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,719 grabbing onto the corner of the walls. My grandfather he 47 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,039 barges in, kicks the door open, and he sees me 48 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,159 hanging on and crying. And when I see him, when 49 00:03:26,159 --> 00:03:28,120 I'm making eye contact with him, I see you. At first, 50 00:03:28,199 --> 00:03:30,639 he's angry, and then he goes to kind. 51 00:03:30,479 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: Of like they shocked look. 52 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: He reaches down and he grabs me by my armpits 53 00:03:37,479 --> 00:03:40,960 and he starts tugging, and I remember him using his 54 00:03:41,039 --> 00:03:44,879 shoulder against the wall to pull me up. When he 55 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,639 pulls me, he throws me outside of the bedroom. I 56 00:03:49,759 --> 00:03:53,159 land in the kitchen and my grandma and my aunt 57 00:03:53,199 --> 00:03:55,479 are there and they're asking me what's happening. And I'm 58 00:03:55,639 --> 00:03:59,120 trying to process everything. And I explained to them that 59 00:03:59,199 --> 00:04:05,560 I was being sucked into the closet. They didn't believe me, 60 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,960 and they just kept telling me that I was crying 61 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,000 too much. And my grandfather he comes out and he 62 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,800 starts talking to my grandma and he's validating my story, 63 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:19,199 telling them like what was happening. You know, they're not 64 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,120 listening to him, They're not listening to me. He decides 65 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,079 to go outside grab some tools. He comes in and 66 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,959 he removes the door from the hinges and he says 67 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,839 that there's not going to be a door on that 68 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,160 room anymore. When I was able to go back into 69 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,560 the bedroom because I was scared, I would look at 70 00:04:37,079 --> 00:04:40,319 the corner where I was grabbing, and sheet rock had 71 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,199 been missing, pain had been missing. And the creepiest part 72 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,519 is where my grandfather's shoulder was. It was like indented. 73 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,040 You can see the kind of like the frame there 74 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,959 was pushed in there. So I mean, I feel like 75 00:04:55,399 --> 00:04:56,720 that had really happened to me. 76 00:04:58,519 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: I to this day. 77 00:04:59,639 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: Cannot sleep with the closet door open. I always have 78 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:04,959 to keep it closed. 79 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: And you know, I tell my wife now that you know, 80 00:05:07,959 --> 00:05:10,839 it's just something that I guess I grew up with 81 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:11,920 being afraid of. 82 00:05:18,319 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: Following that event, Like I said, to the right of 83 00:05:21,759 --> 00:05:27,199 the hallway was my father's room. That area was just 84 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,600 so much creepier than the rest of the house. It 85 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,920 was just all shadow like, it was all dark. 86 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:33,759 Speaker 2: You cannot see. 87 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, me and I had a 88 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,240 younger brother with me. Me and my brother, we had 89 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,439 a pace count. If we try to go down. 90 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,399 Speaker 2: And just we're curious children. 91 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,759 Speaker 1: We try to go down and you know, touch the 92 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,360 wall and come back just because of how dark it was. 93 00:05:49,439 --> 00:05:52,439 We actually had a pace count to the wall, and 94 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,560 I remember my pace count was between eleven and twelve, 95 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,399 and there were times where we'd get like to five 96 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,800 or six, and we still cannot see light from the 97 00:06:02,879 --> 00:06:05,040 other side of the hallway. And there's even the light 98 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,839 like a light switch in the hallway. It's the craziest thing. 99 00:06:10,199 --> 00:06:13,079 But nobody ever went in there, and nobody ever told 100 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,120 us anything that had happened in that bedroom. But everybody 101 00:06:17,199 --> 00:06:19,920 knew and there I think our parents and grandparents were 102 00:06:19,959 --> 00:06:23,079 just keeping a story from us or something, because even 103 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,759 my father would sleep in the living room, he would 104 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,160 not go there. And maybe six seven years old, one 105 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:33,000 of the times, I'm passing through the hallway to go 106 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,839 to my bedroom. I'm following my brother, and I see 107 00:06:36,879 --> 00:06:38,319 something out of the corner of my eye. And the 108 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,279 craziest thing is it's always a shadow, so you can't 109 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:43,040 really see anything. But I see something out of corner 110 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,839 of my eye from the right side, and I look up. 111 00:06:47,439 --> 00:06:50,519 I see like ahead coming from an attict that I 112 00:06:50,519 --> 00:06:54,839 didn't even know we had there. I hear and see 113 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,839 kind of like a board moving, and I run to 114 00:06:57,879 --> 00:06:59,680 my grandpa and I'm telling them and I'm telling my 115 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,560 ground my grandpa, and at first they kind of don't 116 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,279 believe me. But my grandma starts kind of freaking out because, 117 00:07:05,439 --> 00:07:08,120 you know, she understands that there's no way that we 118 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,879 can see that there's access. 119 00:07:09,519 --> 00:07:10,519 Speaker 2: To an attic up there. 120 00:07:10,839 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: So my grandpa gets a ladder and he goes up 121 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,920 and he checks it out. He comes back like maybe 122 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,439 five minutes, it felt like a long time, and he 123 00:07:18,439 --> 00:07:24,800 said he didn't see nothing. When I turned eight, my 124 00:07:24,879 --> 00:07:30,040 grandfather died. He died in nineteen ninety one. My grandma 125 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:33,000 got really sad and she started getting sick. She started 126 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,680 her he started declining. She was crying every night. My 127 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:40,240 aunt would come over and, you know, try to take 128 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,639 care of her, give her some support. Periodically, she started 129 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:46,959 accumulating these religious statues. 130 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: My grandmother had a caregiver. 131 00:07:50,399 --> 00:07:54,279 Speaker 1: She had to go to dialysis twice a week. She 132 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:57,800 asked me and my brother why the statues were facing 133 00:07:57,879 --> 00:08:00,800 the corner of the wall, and me and my brother 134 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:03,560 looked at each other, like, we have no idea. You know, 135 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,600 we don't really go in there other than just to 136 00:08:05,639 --> 00:08:08,800 give her water or she calls for help or anything. 137 00:08:09,959 --> 00:08:13,720 So we kind of took it upon ourselves to take 138 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:18,120 turns sleeping with my grandmother to see who was turning 139 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,600 these statues, you know, facing. 140 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: The wall before we go to bed. 141 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: Both of us would check and we'd see the statues 142 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:30,560 are facing the entrance. Upon waking up, the statue sure 143 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:33,200 enough would be facing a corner, you know, the corner that. 144 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: They were closest too. 145 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,399 Speaker 1: We just were so determined to catch what was going on. 146 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:45,000 My brother one day said he heard the doorknob rattle, 147 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,320 like the closet doorknob to my grandmother's room. So he 148 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,639 jumps out of her bed. He comes, he wakes me up. 149 00:08:50,879 --> 00:08:52,399 He's like, you got to see the closet. You got 150 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:56,840 to see the closet. I run to my grandmother's room. 151 00:08:57,399 --> 00:09:02,639 I open up the closet. All of a sudden, my 152 00:09:02,799 --> 00:09:07,039 grandma says, what are y'all doing? And I turned around 153 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,360 and she's sitting up in bed. Mind you, Like I said, 154 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:14,480 she goes to dialysis twice a week, so she did 155 00:09:14,519 --> 00:09:18,240 not really have the strength to just quietly move up, 156 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:21,039 especially like that quickly. It was almost instant, and she 157 00:09:21,159 --> 00:09:23,519 told us to close the door and to go to bed. 158 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,799 My brother was so creeped out, he did not finish 159 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:33,879 sleeping the night there. We never did figure out how 160 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:41,519 those statues were rotating. Maybe a year later, I was 161 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:46,600 in the fourth grade. I'm not exactly sure what had happened, 162 00:09:46,639 --> 00:09:49,799 but I could not move my neck. I could not 163 00:09:49,919 --> 00:09:53,480 move to the left. I had trouble moving my shoulder, 164 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,799 my left shoulder and just turning to the left, and 165 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,399 it felt like something was swollen in there. Me to 166 00:10:01,039 --> 00:10:04,600 pediatrician and they took X ray. They said everything was fine, 167 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,080 and they kind of chalked it up to, you know, 168 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:08,720 being something with muscles. 169 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: I don't really remember what they said exactly. I was 170 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,120 a kid, about ten years old. 171 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: I had spent an entire summer in bed, and some 172 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,840 religious person who was coming by in Corpus CHRISTI and 173 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,000 people were going by to see this person and receive 174 00:10:30,039 --> 00:10:33,200 blessings and cures. And my aunt was all into it, 175 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,600 and she was like, you have to come, you have 176 00:10:34,639 --> 00:10:38,120 to come. So she takes me out of bed and 177 00:10:38,159 --> 00:10:41,480 we go and we kind of start waiting. Unfortunately, the 178 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,519 line was long. I didn't get to see anybody, but 179 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,639 somebody walked up to us. 180 00:10:45,759 --> 00:10:46,159 Speaker 2: There was this. 181 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:48,799 Speaker 1: Tall gentleman walked up to us and he was just 182 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,080 talking to me and my aunt and the stuff that 183 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,919 he was talking about. You know, he knew names of 184 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,679 people in our family. It seemed to me like my 185 00:10:57,799 --> 00:11:02,279 aunt and this guy was they were familiar with each other. Well, 186 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,879 he hands me a rosary and he says, to keep 187 00:11:04,919 --> 00:11:07,639 it safe and it'll keep me safe. And he puts 188 00:11:07,639 --> 00:11:10,000 it in my hand. You know, I give him my hand, 189 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,159 palm up. He puts it in my hand and I 190 00:11:12,159 --> 00:11:15,919 look down. Now as I look down, I see out 191 00:11:15,919 --> 00:11:17,519 of the corner of my eye he's kind of doing 192 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,440 like this, this motion from my right side to my 193 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:22,879 left side of the back. 194 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: Of my head. 195 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: And as I see his hand moving away from my body, 196 00:11:26,879 --> 00:11:30,440 I instantly feel that I can move my shoulder up 197 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,159 and down. My neck is still tight, but I can 198 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,080 make a movement to the left without it hurting. And 199 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,720 him and my aunt they finished a conversation and he 200 00:11:40,799 --> 00:11:42,840 tells me, you know, take care, be safe, and he 201 00:11:42,919 --> 00:11:46,039 walks away. And as me and my aunt were walking 202 00:11:46,279 --> 00:11:51,200 to her cart, she asked me if my dad knew 203 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,639 that guy, and I was like, no, I've never seen 204 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:54,279 him before. 205 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: In my life. 206 00:11:54,519 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: I thought you knew him, And she told me she 207 00:11:56,759 --> 00:11:59,840 had no idea who he was. My aunt kind of 208 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:02,159 looked it up to him being an angel coming down 209 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,480 to helping me out, because the next couple of days 210 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:08,960 I was able to move, and after about two three 211 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,480 days I had full range of motion and my shoulder 212 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,639 and my neck and you know, that weight wasn't there. 213 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:24,320 And it was a crazy incident. Shortly after that, my 214 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,480 dad had been seeing this girl. I was about eleven 215 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:32,000 years old. She had three kids as well, so to 216 00:12:32,039 --> 00:12:35,480 include my brother, there was three additional siblings. There was 217 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:42,279 another brother and two younger sisters. Their house was very weird, 218 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,679 but I was kind of used to the sensation of 219 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,240 the way their house was all dark and stuff. It 220 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:55,200 was kind of like the dark corner of my father's bedroom. 221 00:12:56,279 --> 00:12:59,720 They had an uncle that lived there and he one 222 00:12:59,799 --> 00:13:03,000 day he came out yelling about who was touching his 223 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,919 Uiji board. Me and my brothers were just kind of 224 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:09,639 looking at each other, like, we don't even know what 225 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,519 a WITCHI board is. He who were calling it a 226 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,320 Witchi board? He explained to us, and he pointed to 227 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,440 it and said, don't ever go there, don't touch it, 228 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,240 And of course we're curious about it. One of the 229 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:27,639 other brothers. He decides to grab it and we noticed 230 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,639 markings on it. I was nervous and I didn't want 231 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:32,960 to touch it. I didn't want to mess with this. 232 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,960 I'm just told me just stay away from it, and 233 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,720 my younger brother he agreed with me, so he put 234 00:13:38,759 --> 00:13:43,799 it back. But then one day we see the uncle 235 00:13:43,879 --> 00:13:47,279 pull it out and he's just like mad and angry 236 00:13:47,279 --> 00:13:49,320 and saying, you know, he told us not to be 237 00:13:49,399 --> 00:13:52,919 touching it. So he threw it in the trash and 238 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,320 put it out to the curb and waited there until 239 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,320 the garbage man came to pick it up. 240 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: We were just there watching. He was like, you're gonna 241 00:14:00,159 --> 00:14:02,799 watch me, you know, put it away, and it went away. 242 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: The very next day he pulls it out again and 243 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:09,320 asks us. 244 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,919 Speaker 2: How we had pulled it out. 245 00:14:10,919 --> 00:14:12,759 Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about it is that there were 246 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,600 initials on one of the corners of the Wigi board. 247 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:18,519 They were like in issues on one corner, and there 248 00:14:18,519 --> 00:14:21,600 were markings on another corner, and these were like scratched in. 249 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:25,759 We felt like this was the same Wiji board that 250 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:30,200 we all saw get dumped into the trash and taken out, 251 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,120 and we just we didn't we didn't have an answer, 252 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,720 but we were in trouble because he thought we pulled 253 00:14:35,759 --> 00:14:39,720 it out somehow. He rips up the Wigi board like, 254 00:14:40,039 --> 00:14:43,200 rips it up, tears it apart, puts it in the 255 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,159 trash again, keeps a bag in his room. 256 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: When the trash comes around. 257 00:14:49,799 --> 00:14:52,759 Speaker 1: The next week, he opens a bag and he says 258 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:54,440 that this is going in the trash, puts it into 259 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,960 another trash bag, puts it into the trash can, and 260 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,279 makes us stand out there and wait for the garbage 261 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,000 man to come and pick it up. Sure enough, they 262 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,240 pick it up, they take it out, and it happened again. 263 00:15:07,039 --> 00:15:11,279 But when it came back it wasn't ripped. We're not 264 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,000 understanding what is going on because we've seen him throw 265 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,440 it away once. We've seen him rip it up once 266 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,879 and it came back whole both times. So this time 267 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,159 I grabbed the Luigi board and I put it in 268 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,879 a grill and I burned it. 269 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm burning it, and I'm like, this is crazy. 270 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: You know, I have to take care of this myself, 271 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,480 because there is no way that this is happening. Somebody's 272 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,360 playing a prank on us. But we're getting in trouble, 273 00:15:37,399 --> 00:15:39,159 you know. The three brothers are getting in trouble for it. 274 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,639 I make sure this thing's burned. I put the ashes 275 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,799 in a bucket where they were collecting dog poo, and 276 00:15:48,679 --> 00:15:52,320 at dog poo went out into a trash can and 277 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:56,679 put in there for the garbage man. They come, they 278 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,840 take it, and next thing you know, he's got the 279 00:16:00,279 --> 00:16:03,000 Uji board with the same markings. And I'm just like, 280 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:05,919 I'm telling my dad like, hey, this is what's happening. 281 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,240 I don't like this, and he's kind of like it's nothing. 282 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,559 You know, nothing's really going on. They're just paying a 283 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:17,399 brain like stuff would happen in that house like some 284 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,399 crazy things. They brought a priest over to I guess 285 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,360 try to bless the house. He walked into the door 286 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,960 and he said, I'm sorry that there's nothing I can do. 287 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:32,279 The kids were told to, you know, go away, go 288 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,759 across the street, come back later, So we came back later. 289 00:16:38,159 --> 00:16:40,399 We tried to ask for updates on the story what 290 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,759 was happening, and nobody really. 291 00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:43,559 Speaker 2: Would tell us anything about what was going on. 292 00:16:44,879 --> 00:16:48,399 Speaker 1: Later on, they brought some lady I'm not sure what 293 00:16:48,519 --> 00:16:52,639 her involvement is with this mystical stuff, and she comes 294 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:55,240 in and as soon as she enters the property, like 295 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,080 passes the gate. She gives an explanation as to what's 296 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:02,879 going on. She enters the house and she's like, you 297 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,359 have black spots at this corner of the room. 298 00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: I had no idea about these black spots. But she walks. 299 00:17:08,759 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: Directly to one of the back rooms and sees these 300 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,400 black spots and it kind of looks like molde. At 301 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,799 this point, they tell us to leave, and my father 302 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:22,240 actually walks me and my brother to my grandmother's house. 303 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,720 And I'm not sure what happened with that or after that, 304 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:29,160 but we never I never went back to there. I 305 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:36,599 stayed with my grandmother with my brother. When I turned 306 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:41,440 about twelve thirteen, my dad and his girlfriend decided to 307 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:45,599 move in together, so we moved in together into some apartments. 308 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,519 There's two story apartment. When you entered the apartment, you 309 00:17:49,599 --> 00:17:53,359 have the living room. Past that there's a dining room 310 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:57,519 with the back door. The living room had theirs that 311 00:17:57,599 --> 00:18:01,160 would go directly right, and then turned the left to 312 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,000 go upstairs, and you had a small hallway that had 313 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:07,960 a bedroom. The bedroom door on the left which was 314 00:18:08,079 --> 00:18:11,519 where me and my brother slept, a bedroom door on 315 00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:15,000 the right, which is where the sister slept, and the 316 00:18:15,039 --> 00:18:18,799 bedroom door upfront is where the parents slept. We had 317 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,559 lived there for two weeks and nobody really said anything 318 00:18:23,759 --> 00:18:27,440 to each other. But one day my sister brings up 319 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,839 a shadow man with a hat. We all kind of 320 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:35,799 start bringing up whether or not we had seen this, 321 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,319 and it turned out being that most of us, everyone 322 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:42,440 except for my dad, had seen something similar out of 323 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,200 the corner of their eyes. 324 00:18:43,279 --> 00:18:45,279 Speaker 2: You can never like make contact with it. You try 325 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:45,839 to turn the. 326 00:18:45,799 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: Look and it's gone or it moves away. But we 327 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,720 all had been seeing this shadow with kind of like 328 00:18:51,759 --> 00:19:00,680 a round a round hat. Later on, my baby, she 329 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,480 was maybe like two years old. She was just crying 330 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:09,359 and crying and crying, and it was bedtime and we 331 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,480 couldn't figure out what was happening. So I mean, I 332 00:19:11,519 --> 00:19:13,960 step out of the bedroom and I go to Luk 333 00:19:14,079 --> 00:19:17,559 and my dad and step mom A and they're trying 334 00:19:17,559 --> 00:19:23,000 to comfort her, and she's describing like this shadow figure 335 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,960 from the closet and what she sees. She describes a 336 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:33,359 palm up and she describes a human heart beating. The 337 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:38,680 beating was like the rhythm of a heart. And she 338 00:19:38,839 --> 00:19:41,599 was two years old. I couldn't figure out where she 339 00:19:43,519 --> 00:19:45,720 understood what this looked like. She didn't know it was 340 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,519 a heart. She just kept describing the beating and the bleeding, 341 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,680 and she would describe a finger, the pointer finger of 342 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,720 the same hand that the heart was in curling, egging 343 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,799 her to come to the closet. But she was two 344 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,720 years old in a crib. It was kind of weird. 345 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:11,440 It kept me up for some of that night. But 346 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,799 that same night, later on that night, we you know, 347 00:20:13,839 --> 00:20:18,519 we all go back to bed. We start hearing music 348 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,200 and my brothers are like, hey, you need to go 349 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,839 and you know, tell mom and dad that they're being 350 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,559 too loud and we can't sleep. You know, we got 351 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:27,160 school tomorrow. And I was like, nah, they'll turn it 352 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,880 down a little bit, and they're like, no, no, get 353 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,480 up and go tell them. You know, we've had a 354 00:20:31,559 --> 00:20:35,359 rough night. I decide to get up and I opened 355 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,000 the door. And as soon as I opened the door 356 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:38,799 and my dad opens the door to his room, he 357 00:20:38,839 --> 00:20:41,200 looks at me. He's like, what are y'all doing? And 358 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,640 I'm telling them nothing. We were trying to sleep, but 359 00:20:44,079 --> 00:20:46,039 you'll have the radio and he's like, it's not me. 360 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:51,759 I'm down I'm up here. We opened the bedroom door 361 00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:54,160 to my sisters, and both of my sisters are awake, 362 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,200 but they're in bed. So me and my dad look 363 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,960 at each other and he's like, come on, follow me. 364 00:20:59,079 --> 00:21:02,640 We go down the stairs, and when I go down 365 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,039 the stairs, my dad says, hey, this radio is off. 366 00:21:07,079 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: Why is it playing? 367 00:21:09,079 --> 00:21:11,519 Speaker 1: He leans over poo's a plug out from the wall 368 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:15,119 and it shuts off and he starts playing with the switch. 369 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,079 He leaves it on off and he was like, that's weird. 370 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,240 Let's go back to bed. I go up the stairs 371 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:23,920 first and he's falling behind me and the radio comes 372 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,319 back on again. I look at him and he just 373 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,519 looks there. He looks at me, and we don't say 374 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:32,799 anything to each other. We just walk back to the kitchen. 375 00:21:33,839 --> 00:21:37,359 We go to the kitchen and he looks at the radio, 376 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:39,839 picks it up and he's like, must be the battery, 377 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,759 opens up the battery compartment, takes out the D batteries 378 00:21:42,759 --> 00:21:45,000 that were in there, puts him on the table and 379 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:47,119 he holds it and he's like, but the switch is off. 380 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: This is weird. 381 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: It must be broken. All of a sudden, the dial 382 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:55,279 for the FMAM dial, the little needle starts moving left 383 00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:58,279 and right. The knobs aren't moving, but the dial is moving, 384 00:21:58,759 --> 00:22:02,000 and there's sound coming out of the radio. He drops it. 385 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,079 Speaker 2: He was by the back door. 386 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,279 Speaker 1: I opened up the back door, grabbed the radio, threw 387 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,319 it out, and as soon as it left the apartment, 388 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:10,880 it just. 389 00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:12,079 Speaker 2: Completely shut off. 390 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: Like then it stopped playing, and my dad immediately like 391 00:22:16,279 --> 00:22:18,599 pushes me out of the way, closes the door, locks it, 392 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,799 and he was like, this is just a bad dream. 393 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,000 Let's go to bed the next day. And when we 394 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:29,240 get out of school, me and my brother, we end 395 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,000 up moving back to my grandma's house. And then everybody 396 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,440 else came along afterwards, like a day after so we 397 00:22:36,519 --> 00:22:41,799 ended up moving out of that apartment. When we moved 398 00:22:42,079 --> 00:22:45,400 into my grandma's house, everything was fine. There was still 399 00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:48,039 you know, the dark side of the hallway, and it 400 00:22:48,079 --> 00:22:52,000 was it was kind of funny because like me and 401 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:54,599 my younger brother would kind of introduce it to our 402 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,079 other siblings and we tell him about our pace count 403 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,640 and kind of dare each other, you know, go go 404 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,160 touch wall and come back. One of my younger sisters 405 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,799 apparently she kind of got stuck in that hallway, so 406 00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:13,000 she said she was running straight but ended up touching 407 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,200 my dad's door. And so what my dad ended up 408 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:21,079 doing is putting like a shelf and kind of like 409 00:23:19,759 --> 00:23:23,519 a like a drawer addresser along the side of the 410 00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:26,759 hallway to narrow the hallway so that way we could 411 00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:28,680 touch either the wall on the side or one of 412 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,920 the dressers on the other side, so that way. 413 00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 2: That wouldn't happen. 414 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: But even when everybody moved in, nobody slept in that room, 415 00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:41,119 and my dad and his girlfriend they even slept on 416 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,720 the living room mattress. I guess I grew up as 417 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,160 a child there, so I didn't really question it, and 418 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,079 maybe seeing how everyone else had accepted it, maybe none 419 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,599 of the younger sisters had had a reason to question 420 00:23:54,680 --> 00:24:13,279 it either. This was nineteen ninety nine. I remember this 421 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,440 because upside down at six sixty six, I was sixteen 422 00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:17,960 years old. 423 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: This was like the craziest event of my life. 424 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: In that house, my grandma had told me to do something, 425 00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:27,799 and I don't remember what it was, but I told 426 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:31,200 her no, I cussed at her. I'd never cussed at 427 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,319 my grandma before, and for some reason I decided to 428 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,359 cuss at her, and I was volger. 429 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: I threw the middle finger at her. 430 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,319 Speaker 1: And I don't know why I did it, but I 431 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,599 was mad, and I went to go lay down. 432 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: All five of the siblings slept in one room. We 433 00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:49,880 had a bunk bed. 434 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: The brothers slept on the top bunk, the sister slept 435 00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:55,839 to the bottom bunk, and I slept on a mattress 436 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,240 on the floor. And so I went to the room 437 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,799 and I laid down on the mattress. 438 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: The best way to described this. 439 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: Bedroom is it went past the bathroom, so like the 440 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,079 bathroom is on the left, but the bathroom was shorter 441 00:25:13,799 --> 00:25:14,680 than my bedroom. 442 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: My bedroom. 443 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: Protruded, so it wasn't like an even squared house. To 444 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,440 the very end, I had two windows, one to the left. 445 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,279 If I looked out that window on the left, I 446 00:25:28,319 --> 00:25:31,000 can see the bathroom window, and I can see out 447 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,119 into the street to the yard. The window that was 448 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:40,079 straight ahead had some shutters that were rusted shut. These 449 00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:42,359 shutters would not open for anything. We used to w 450 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,359 D forty. Me and my friends used to like do 451 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,119 kind of like a strength test to see, you know, 452 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:46,920 who could open them. 453 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: They would never open. 454 00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: The one on the left that one could open, and 455 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,400 my friends used to come by and they used to 456 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,680 knock on that window, and that's how I would know 457 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,279 they were here, and. 458 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,519 Speaker 2: I would go outside, you know, or talk to them 459 00:25:58,519 --> 00:25:58,960 out there. 460 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: So I go and I lay down, and I'm laying 461 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,720 on the mattress and I'm just like upset and I'm 462 00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:07,880 kind of kind of crying about it. And I hear 463 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,200 knocking on the window to the left, so I'm like, oh, cool, 464 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,119 one of my buddies is here. 465 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,079 Speaker 2: Let me just see who it did. 466 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:18,599 Speaker 1: I open up the window and nobody's there, and I'm 467 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,000 just like, oh, you know, someone's playing a prank or something. 468 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,960 And then I hear running in the hallway coming from 469 00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:29,640 my father's room. And at first I was just running 470 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,440 back and forth, back and forth, and I'm like, oh, 471 00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:33,559 it's probably one of my sisters, you know, because of 472 00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:36,400 the steps sounded like they were a lot quicker. And 473 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,240 then I hear giggling of a girl as well. I'm like, hey, 474 00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:42,839 you need to stop, you know, I'm trying to be 475 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,559 left alone go play outside or something. 476 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,759 Speaker 2: And it stops. It stops for a little bit. 477 00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:50,559 Speaker 1: And I start hearing knocking again at the window, and 478 00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:52,920 I'm like, great, everybody's messing with me. You know, they 479 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,640 found a time to you know. 480 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,519 Speaker 2: Really make me mad. 481 00:26:57,799 --> 00:27:02,039 Speaker 1: The more that I ignored it, the stronger it actually got. 482 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:08,039 I started hearing the running down the hallway. It started 483 00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:13,039 going past my bedroom door, towards my grandma's room and back. 484 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,519 So I decided to flip over and lay on my 485 00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:16,640 back and just kind of like. 486 00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:20,599 Speaker 2: Set up, leaned up against the wall to see, you know, 487 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:21,240 who it is. 488 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: And the running stops going past the door, and then 489 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:32,680 knocking starts along that hallway, that dark hallway. I'm just looking, 490 00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:36,279 I'm waiting, and I hear the footsteps get deeper, they 491 00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:39,839 sound heavier, and then they stop, and then I hear 492 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,319 the bathroom. It seemed like something went past my door. 493 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,240 I don't have a door on the hinge anymore. Sounds 494 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,119 like something went past my door into the bathroom and 495 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,720 started knocking there. And then from like it kind of 496 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,759 reset back to my father's room. And there was going 497 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,680 along the walls as well, but not from inside my room, 498 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,960 from outside my room, and I hear the scratching going along. 499 00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:11,920 It skips the door and it goes to the bathroom, 500 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,079 and it goes along as if it's inside the bathroom. 501 00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:20,599 The scratching continues through the bathroom wall onto my window 502 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,720 with the shutters, and I can hear the nails or 503 00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:27,240 the scratching on the shutters, and this is happening outside 504 00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:30,559 the house now. And it turns the corner and it's 505 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:35,359 scratching again through the shutters that rusted shut, back to 506 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,640 the wall that's on my father's side of the room, 507 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,480 and the scratching makes about two three revolutions. 508 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,759 Speaker 2: I'm really getting kind of scared here. I started hearing. 509 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,839 Speaker 1: Footsteps again, louder and louder, and I hear my dad's 510 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,359 bedroom door opening, and I'm. 511 00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:59,559 Speaker 2: Not thinking that somebody is inside the house anymore. 512 00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: So I turn around in my stomach, you know, because 513 00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:06,319 I was I was calling out to people and nobody 514 00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:08,839 was answering. So I turn around all my stomach and 515 00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:10,440 I'm like, I'm just gonna go to sleep. I'm gonna 516 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,960 go away this, you know, this stuff's gonna go away. 517 00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:16,559 Let's see what happens. And I hear the footsteps. 518 00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:17,799 Speaker 2: Come boom, boom boom. 519 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: They stop at the door, and you can hear what 520 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,839 sounds like feet kind of turn and I hear the 521 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,799 feed like the heavy footsteps go into the bedroom that 522 00:29:27,839 --> 00:29:32,960 I'm in and the footsteps stop, the noises stop, and 523 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:36,839 I feel the impression of my mattress where my where 524 00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:40,039 my feet is kind of go down. I feel I 525 00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:43,039 feel an impression. I turn around and I see the 526 00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:47,759 mattress sinking in but there's nobody, nothing there. I get up, 527 00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:50,920 I run through, and I run outside to the front door, 528 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:58,240 and I ran across the street. Across the street from 529 00:29:58,319 --> 00:30:00,400 my grandmother's house was just an empty lot. 530 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: There used to. 531 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,079 Speaker 1: Be an elementary school there, and to the right of 532 00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:08,319 that was an actual elementary school. But I stayed across 533 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,839 the street and I fell asleep, like on the sidewalk. 534 00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:15,359 And one of my neighbors he's seen me, and he. 535 00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:17,039 Speaker 2: Goes up and he's like, hey, what are you doing. 536 00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:17,559 Are you okay? 537 00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:21,559 Speaker 1: It's getting cold, it's getting dark. I explained to him 538 00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:24,759 what happened. He was like, no, nobody's been there. Everybody left. 539 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,680 It turned out being that everybody was looking for me 540 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,400 to go see the fireworks. It was like Fourth of 541 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,240 July and they wanted to go see fireworks at the Bayfront. 542 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,400 Apparently they were looking for me, and I was nowhere 543 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,000 to be found. But from when I had cussed out 544 00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:46,079 my grandmother. I had been in that bedroom until. 545 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,839 Speaker 2: I ran out. I did not go anywhere else. 546 00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: Them hearing that I was across the street, you know, 547 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,799 they pulled up and my neighbor tells them, and they're 548 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,400 thinking that I had left. You know, they don't believe 549 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,720 me that I was in the house time. So nobody 550 00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:04,480 had believed me on that story. But that was one 551 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,960 of the creepiest things that had ever happened to me. 552 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,720 I turned eighteen two thousand and one and joined the 553 00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:19,720 army right away. Everything was fine, you know, nothing, nothing 554 00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:24,279 bad had been happening. He had a deployment, came back 555 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,119 in two thousand and six from Iraq. 556 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:29,119 Speaker 2: When I returned from Iraq, there was. 557 00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: A cash of bayonets. 558 00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:34,559 Speaker 2: That was found. 559 00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:40,039 Speaker 1: They put our unit name on there, OHIF three, and 560 00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:42,680 they kind of handed them out to many of the 561 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,799 people that were in the unit. The one that I kept, 562 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,440 I kept it stowed away, never opened. It stayed in 563 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,920 a box and stayed in the garage. And when I 564 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,960 got out in twenty thirteen, I moved back to Corpus Christie. 565 00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:00,160 I would go through my stuff and I would tell, 566 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,680 you know, my kids. I have two kids of my own, 567 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,519 at this time, and I would tell them about how 568 00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:07,160 I got this. 569 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,119 Speaker 2: And what the unit man and stuff like that. 570 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,319 Speaker 1: And I happen to pull the bayonet out of the 571 00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:15,200 sheath and it looked like there was blood inside one 572 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,079 of the grooves there. So I close it up and 573 00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:18,880 I was like, let's go to the other side of 574 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,079 the house. 575 00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: Where I lived. I lived in an apartment. 576 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: The room that I kept that bayonet and was completely empty. 577 00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: Nobody lived there. Windows always stayed shut. 578 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,839 Speaker 1: One day, there were like these pinkish brownish footsteps. 579 00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:42,279 Speaker 2: They looked they looked like boots. 580 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: There was two footsteps, like shoeprints or bootprints, just in 581 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,640 the middle, in the middle of the of the room. 582 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:51,119 Speaker 2: You know. 583 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,759 Speaker 1: My daughter, she was right behind me. She looks at 584 00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:56,880 it and she's like, what is that? And I look 585 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,640 at her shoes. Her shoes doesn't match. My shoes don't match, 586 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,839 you know, the different sizes. 587 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: We couldn't figure it out. I would have a lot 588 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:05,720 of dreams. 589 00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: I would have sleep paralysis ever since I returned from deployment. 590 00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: I would fight it. 591 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: I would I would fight to move, I would fight 592 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,319 to open my eyes, I would fight to open my 593 00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:18,240 mouth say something. 594 00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: And the more. 595 00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:21,839 Speaker 1: That I fought, the better at it that I got 596 00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:25,720 to where I was actually able to make movements. 597 00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: There was this one. 598 00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: Time where this mist like it it was the shadow figure. 599 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,319 You know, at first I would see the old Hag 600 00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:38,000 and a shadow figure, but then the old Hag kind 601 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,640 of went away and it was just a shadow figure. 602 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,799 And there was this mist on the face of this 603 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,279 shadow figure, and it looked like it lifted away, and 604 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,759 it was its eyes that it was showing me like 605 00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:54,279 it its eyes, and the mist kind of looked I 606 00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:56,240 guess it had the motion of like a static TV. 607 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,240 And it just stared, didn't say anything. And when I 608 00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:04,559 was able to move, it went away, and I was 609 00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:05,200 able to move. 610 00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:09,519 Speaker 2: My arm shot up from just all the all the 611 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,800 strength I was trying. 612 00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:13,039 Speaker 1: To use to be able to move and break free, 613 00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:17,960 it just shot up. I can't really tell if I 614 00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:22,320 transition from one stay to another whether I'm actually asleep 615 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,840 or awake, but I feel like I had been awake 616 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,760 the entire time. But when I got rid of that 617 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:36,719 bay and Net, those sleep paralysis episodes had lessened a lot. 618 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,599 I got rid of it by taking it to a 619 00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:42,599 pawn shop. Nobody wanted to take nobody wanted to buy it. 620 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,559 I went to a pawn shop and I was like, hey, 621 00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:46,119 can can I get a. 622 00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 2: Couple bucks for this? 623 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: And they told me yeah. They called me not even 624 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,800 a month later. I think it was like a couple 625 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,639 of weeks later, and they asked me if I can 626 00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:55,719 go back to pick it up. 627 00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 2: And I was like, no, I don't. 628 00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I want to, but let me ask 629 00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:02,320 ask you has anything been going on? 630 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: And the dude wasn't really being straightforward about what had 631 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,599 been happening. 632 00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: He just kept saying he didn't want me to lose 633 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,599 the item, you know, because it had a lot of 634 00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:16,840 sentimental value. And I was like, no, I've been sleeping 635 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,440 a lot better. 636 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 2: I still actually do get these sleep paralysis episodes. And 637 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,679 my wife now. 638 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,199 Speaker 1: She knows when they come, and a lot of times 639 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,800 I think she stays awake trying to break me out 640 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,400 of them. She's been doing this for several years. They 641 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,920 don't come as often as before, but they still come. 642 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: Around, and she knows that I'm able. 643 00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: To mutter words like speak a little bit, and she'll 644 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,159 push me or shove me, or you know, something will 645 00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:54,159 wake me up. It's crazy how that stuff sticks with 646 00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:56,880 you that started in about two thousand and six. 647 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: To this day. Actually, I sleep on my stomach. You know. 648 00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:06,159 Speaker 1: I have all these back pains, but to less on 649 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,559 the episode, TYE, sleep on my stomach because they don't 650 00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:12,360 seem to come around when I'm on my stomach, only 651 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,320 when I'm on my back. 652 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 2: I still sleep with the closet doors closed. You know. 653 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: My wife sometimes will accident leave it open, and I'll 654 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,239 tell her something because I can't do. 655 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,199 Speaker 2: It, and she'll go and she'll she'll close it. 656 00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: People tend to not not believe it or write it often, 657 00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:32,360 and it becomes kind of strange unless you find someone 658 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,800 who's gone through the same stuff.