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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to bat Flips and Nerds, the Baseball

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast with a British twist. I am your host this evening,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Carter. I am joined by Darius Austin. Darius, imagine

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<v Speaker 1>not loving baseball couldn't be me. What did we see last.

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<v Speaker 3>Night couldn't be me.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be the best baseball game I've ever waved.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was. It was extraordinary from start to

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<v Speaker 2>finish pretty much. There wasn't a moment that you felt

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<v Speaker 2>like the tension and had dropped. I think the closest

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<v Speaker 2>we got was maybe when the Chet hit the home

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<v Speaker 2>run and it felt like, oh, maybe the boys are

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<v Speaker 2>going to pull away here. But we can get into

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<v Speaker 2>all of that. Yeah, it was. It was a tremendous game.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody watching it live was kind of losing their minds

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<v Speaker 2>and they just sort of kept stacking things up on

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<v Speaker 2>top of it as well. It was when you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>already like that, this is ridiculous, and there did another

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<v Speaker 2>six things after that that were also ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>It was an insane game.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like we could do a five parta just

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<v Speaker 1>on last night's game, and at some point I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>there will be oral histories and stuff to talk through

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<v Speaker 1>this whole series. But we thought, yeah, what an insane game.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's jump on very quickly talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>crazy things that happened. I cannot imagine being a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of either at those two teams.

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<v Speaker 3>I was. I didn't stay up late for it, Darius.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that you did.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you talk about what it was like to

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<v Speaker 1>experience it life. I just watched the highlights this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>made sure to get no spoilers, pulled them up on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a good forty minute package that

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<v Speaker 1>m'll be blessed us with, and my heart was racing

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<v Speaker 1>for about thirty eight of those forty minutes, just watching

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<v Speaker 1>the highlights with absolutely no skin in the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Jays fans who obviously are waking up devastated this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Dodgers fans who must be on cloud nine. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>imagine the rollercoaster of emotions. What was it like for you, Darius?

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<v Speaker 1>I know you stayed up and watched it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your your heart rate like as that game

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<v Speaker 1>went on, especially as the later when He's unfolded.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was pretty high. I was thinking while I

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<v Speaker 2>was watching it that I have been in this position.

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched the Giants in Game seven against the Royals

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty fourteen, and that didn't really feel like this.

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<v Speaker 2>This was almost more nerve wrecking. It felt like, if

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<v Speaker 2>people remember, I think it was Alex Gordon maybe hit

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<v Speaker 2>the triple in the ninth after Bumgarner had gone in

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<v Speaker 2>his heroic bullpen stint, and it sort of seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>he was cruising and then suddenly this triple came out

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<v Speaker 2>of nowhere. It sort of felt like that, but for

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<v Speaker 2>about three hours instead of you know, five minutes. It

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<v Speaker 2>was ridiculous. I was like, I don't actually, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously I'd prefer the Blue Jays one, but like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a personal stake in this. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 2>fan of his teams. And I was dying. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>poor fans of the actual teams must have been absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>hearts jumping out of their chests because there were so

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<v Speaker 2>many moments as well. It wasn't like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>scoreless innings. It wasn't like the the epic Game three

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<v Speaker 2>were actually mostly you know, we're setting down the lineups

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<v Speaker 2>and the pitchen's doing it stuff. I think there was

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<v Speaker 2>traffic on the bases pretty much every inning, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of hits, a lot of close plays, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, bang bang defensive stuff that you just think

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<v Speaker 2>for actually a second, either way, this game could have

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<v Speaker 2>been totally different. So yeah, but I felt emotionally drained

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<v Speaker 2>by the It was a fantastic watch. Couldn't really believe

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<v Speaker 2>that it went on as long as it did either.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously we had some incredibly unlikely heroes as well,

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<v Speaker 2>which was pretty cool. And I think maybe the most

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<v Speaker 2>remarkable thing about about last night was just who ended

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<v Speaker 2>up saving that game for the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think we're going to get into all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's rare that a game lives up to

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<v Speaker 1>the hype, especially a World Series Game seven at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of a US series, that it has been as

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<v Speaker 1>good as this one.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think it truly did deliver.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to try and just focus really

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<v Speaker 1>on some of the things that happened in that game

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<v Speaker 1>in this series as a whole. There will be plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of time maybe for more of a reflection on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where this ranks among World Series games or among World

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<v Speaker 1>series generally boring? Is this good for baseball chat? About

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<v Speaker 1>whether the Dodgers are ruining the sport.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we have plenty of time for that in

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<v Speaker 1>the off season, but I think right now it all

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<v Speaker 1>feels very visceral and real, and maybe we'll just reflect

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<v Speaker 1>on some of the stuff that happened. I know our

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<v Speaker 1>podding colleague, Rachel was at both Game six and Game seven,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a huge Blue Jays fan who has supported the team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>since she was a little girl. I know she went

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<v Speaker 1>with her dad. I think to both games must have

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<v Speaker 1>been just an unbelievable experience. She might be able to

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<v Speaker 1>jump in here and chat with us for five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>about what it was like to be in the ballpark.

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<v Speaker 1>If not, we'll try and make sure we can pin

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<v Speaker 1>her down another times talk about that, because like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can only imagine the level of emotion and feelings

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<v Speaker 1>and things happening if you're actually in the ballpark. But

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we can go back and forth a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>at the start here, just talking and throwing out some

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<v Speaker 1>of the most insane moments from last night. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily have to stick to a certain order. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>hard to remember what order some of these things happened. In,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's worth calling out some of the

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<v Speaker 1>insane stuff that happened. Maybe we start, maybe we start

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<v Speaker 1>at the end. Honestly, it almost gets forgotten that it

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<v Speaker 1>was well to me, even though it was twelve hours

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<v Speaker 1>ago or whatever, that Will Smith hit the game winning

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<v Speaker 1>home run for a guy who had basically the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>hit of the game, the go ahead home run that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being the difference. It almost feels like that

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<v Speaker 1>will end up being like the fifth or sixth best

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<v Speaker 1>remembered moment from this game. But wow, what an unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>moment for Will Smith. I guess we can combine that,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe with just with that final inning and the game

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<v Speaker 1>ending double play, and that in itself, like everything that

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<v Speaker 1>went into it, the fact that Betts was the one

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, having struggled all series, the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Bets and Smith swap spots in the lineup right before

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<v Speaker 1>was at Game six, and that happened to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the guy gaming up the unbelievably clutch home

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<v Speaker 1>run at the end. Almost the personification really of why

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<v Speaker 1>this Dodgers team is so hard to take down, right

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<v Speaker 1>because they have quality players up and down the lineup

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<v Speaker 1>who can hit a home run at any time will

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<v Speaker 1>get onto a less likely home run that was hit

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<v Speaker 1>another time in this game, and who played really really

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<v Speaker 1>good fundamental defense and that was on display, i think,

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<v Speaker 1>especially throughout the final few unings of this game. But

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<v Speaker 1>an underratedly difficult double play to end it by Betts,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, going to his left having to then throw

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<v Speaker 1>back across his body. Kaik obviously not a fast runner,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was not routine. Yeah, what are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on Smith's home run and then the Dodgers managing to

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<v Speaker 1>close it out when it looked like it could get

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<v Speaker 1>away from again in the bottom of the eleventh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Smith is I think, yeah hit. It might get

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit lost in all of it, especially because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously there was maybe an even bigger home run to

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<v Speaker 2>tie the game a couple of innings before, which we

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<v Speaker 2>can talk about any minute. But yeah, it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a surreal experience to watch it because that ballpark

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<v Speaker 2>was so loud and everybody was so hypes, and it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like even when the Dodgers had scored most of

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<v Speaker 2>the evening, you know, they got back up quickly, and

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<v Speaker 2>this was the real sort of deflating you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>could just hear the pin drop, suddenly the air went

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<v Speaker 2>out of the room. Yeah, Smith definitely got all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Shane Bieber kind of looked like he was cruising that

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<v Speaker 2>inning and then suddenly the ball was out of the

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<v Speaker 2>park and the ballpark was silent. I think Rachel Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>it was one hundred and twelve decibels in the earlier

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<v Speaker 2>in the evening they flashed up something on there. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're thinking to watching on TV, was it really

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<v Speaker 2>loud and there, Yeah it was. It was really loud,

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<v Speaker 2>fantastic atmosphere, So yeah, it did. It kind of felt

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<v Speaker 2>like the Dodgers were just going to find a way

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<v Speaker 2>even though the offense didn't really click ever in this series.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that the most they scored was six runs.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a team that averaged more than five runs

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<v Speaker 2>a game in the regular season. So the bnja's did

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<v Speaker 2>a fantastic job to limit them the way they did.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was definitely, as I said that that point

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<v Speaker 2>when home earlier in the game, he thought three nil

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<v Speaker 2>already that this could be it. You know, just really

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<v Speaker 2>struggled to score runs and you didn't think that they

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<v Speaker 2>were necessarily gonna be able to do it. That evening

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<v Speaker 2>and they you know, exit out in dribs and drabs

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<v Speaker 2>and solo homers and sacrifice flyers, and yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was not a Dodger's like offensive performance. But the

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<v Speaker 2>thing about this lineup is they've got so much quality

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<v Speaker 2>is struggling, a guy like Freheim of struggling. It's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got tiny, We've got Will Smith. Yeah there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>guys everywhere who can hurt you on this team. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>an unreal moment for Smith to just hit that home runner.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess he'll be a Dodger's legend forever now. But then

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the inning up, he doesn't get more

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<v Speaker 2>tense than having the tying run on third base, as

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<v Speaker 2>in the bottom of the eleventh inning and games set

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<v Speaker 2>the World Series.

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<v Speaker 3>Hats off.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we want to talk about Yamamoto because the guy,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy pitched the night before this. It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 2>he's on the short rest. You know, he's said a

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<v Speaker 2>day or two off. It's came out. He pitched in

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<v Speaker 2>those six fantastic innings that I before, after throwing a

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<v Speaker 2>complete game earlier in the week and he's just back

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<v Speaker 2>on the bound and not not for like a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of pitches. Is this was the third inning he was

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<v Speaker 2>out there, and it looked like, you know, they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>going to get the ball off him. Yeah, Flad coming

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<v Speaker 2>up the first guy in that inning was not the

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<v Speaker 2>guy he wanted to see. I don't think he hit

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty authorestive double to set that up. But then, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that double play, I think people I saw it live,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, like, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to tie this game up when the ball

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<v Speaker 2>got hit, because I didn't think there was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be time. And people have made a lot about Bets

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<v Speaker 2>and his unreal transformation into one of the best defensive

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<v Speaker 2>short sobs in baseball in his mid thirties. Pretty crazy

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<v Speaker 2>thing to do. And yeah, I think that just typified

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<v Speaker 2>what he'd done because he did make it look pretty easy,

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<v Speaker 2>even though the amount of tension there was. That ball

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<v Speaker 2>who's really struggled at the plate and just, yeah, a

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<v Speaker 2>Moto World Series MVP. What more can you say about

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to be the guy who was closing that out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the best individual pitching formats across the world too,

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<v Speaker 1>as I can remember since Bunar, and arguably even better

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<v Speaker 1>given he went out in Game seven on zero days rest.

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<v Speaker 1>that has been done, never mind in modern baseball, but

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<v Speaker 1>just since starting pitchers were, you know, given days between starts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely unbelievable what he was able to do. And

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<v Speaker 1>been Game three that went eighteen innings? Right, he was

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<v Speaker 1>warming up to come in to pitch, right, And that

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<v Speaker 1>was again on maybe one day's rest because he pitched

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<v Speaker 1>Game two, didn't he? So I mean, this guy clearly

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<v Speaker 1>there doing it. And an unbelievable tip of the cap

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<v Speaker 1>for his World Series performance. I was among many who

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<v Speaker 1>didn't necessarily think he was the picture that maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>all expected when he first signed that contract. And this

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<v Speaker 1>whole season he's been unbelievable. But this postseason has just

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<v Speaker 1>tell stories and write books and make films about some

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<v Speaker 1>of his feats in this series. And look shoheo. Tani

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<v Speaker 1>But really fitting that the Amamoto got World Series MVP. I

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<v Speaker 1>it up. What an unbelievable athlete. Yeah, what an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>performance in this series. Let's get back I guess a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry go on that did also remind me there was

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<v Speaker 2>enough time to dwell on it, but there was a

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<v Speaker 2>moment during that inning where they cut to the ballpen

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<v Speaker 2>and Clayton Kersher was warming up in the ballpen. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought back to our conversation about what are

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<v Speaker 2>we going to get Clayton Kershew blows save in the

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<v Speaker 2>World Series. It did career. Fortunately it was taken out

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<v Speaker 2>of Dave Robertson's hands, but there was there was definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a moment there where I thought they're going to tie

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<v Speaker 2>this up and they're going to have to bring Cursher

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<v Speaker 1>It did feel for a moment that we were getting

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<v Speaker 1>to that inevitable moment where Kershel comes in with option

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<v Speaker 1>A and the save in Game seven of the World Series,

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<v Speaker 1>in the final game of your Hall of Fame career,

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<v Speaker 1>be blow it final time in the playoffs to endjo

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<v Speaker 1>illustrious Hall of Fame career. So I'm quite glad that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't come to pass, but it did feel that was

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say one of the very cool things

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<v Speaker 1>just coming out of the bullpen, no matter what, to

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<v Speaker 1>pitch where you get, you know. I think glass Now

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<v Speaker 1>came in, Blake Snell came in for the night, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>had the Ammamoto on the Blue Jay side, We had

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<v Speaker 1>Bassett came into the game, obviously, had Beaver come into

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Like all arms, whoever we need, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be ready to go, which is just yeah, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yay Savage, he came in, didn't he? I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>love that about that, Like there is no tomorrow. You

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<v Speaker 1>just got to throw everyone out there. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see all of your best players, all the stars of

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<v Speaker 1>this series out there one more time. So that I

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<v Speaker 1>think is a really cool element of these, Like when

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go home games, it's like you just got to

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<v Speaker 1>you got to throw it all out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't remember one call at this, probably because

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<v Speaker 2>we've never seen a team with talent call at this,

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<v Speaker 2>but just show here. Tony tier, glass Now, Blake's and

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<v Speaker 2>Mooto pitched in the same game and then the blue

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<v Speaker 2>Jay's three shares and Beaver and your savage like this is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you just don't see this even in the World Series,

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<v Speaker 2>it like it hardly ever happens that you get quite

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<v Speaker 2>this volume of it. But it was remarkable to see, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>We should probably talk about the ninth inning, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be interested to hear what what it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>for you watching live. When I was watching the highlights,

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<v Speaker 1>they were kind of making this big point in the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the ninth about blue Jay's up by one.

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<v Speaker 1>O'tarani has to bat this inning. You know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, we've got eight nine to one, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what, Otny will come up with a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>tire the game. If someone gets on bass a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to win it. And even during the the at bat

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<v Speaker 1>that ended up tying the game from Meggy Rojas, they

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about like, you cannot let rohats get on

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<v Speaker 1>base here, you cannot walk here, but you do not

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<v Speaker 1>want to have o'tony come up with a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>give the Dodgers the lead. And I'm sure it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like that a little bit watching it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>just skip to the bit where Atani comes up and

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<v Speaker 1>its game on the line, and he has to hit

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<v Speaker 1>a home run to tie it, and almost people forgot

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<v Speaker 1>that there were two batters to come before them, and

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<v Speaker 1>especially Mickey Row who hadn't had a hit in a

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<v Speaker 1>month before this game. He did get one a bit

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in the game, didn't he but hadn't had a

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<v Speaker 1>offense to Mickey Row, who we've all come come to love,

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly a sup utility at best. And it just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like, so that's baseball, that he would be the

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<v Speaker 1>one to turn on the pitch after a really good

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<v Speaker 1>at bat and stick it effectively, no doubt, over the

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<v Speaker 1>left field fence to tie it off. Jeff Hoffman, who

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<v Speaker 1>to that point Colorado Rockies legend, by the way, to

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<v Speaker 1>that point, had been lights out in the series and

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<v Speaker 1>in the entire postseason for the Jays. Yeah, could you

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<v Speaker 1>believe what your eyes were seeing? What was going through

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<v Speaker 3>Is that night?

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<v Speaker 1>Thenning unfolded and Rojas came to the plate, and it

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<v Speaker 1>Twani stood watching him in the on deck circle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think you're right. Nobody was even

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<v Speaker 2>really looking at rows, they were thinking about O'tarani. I

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<v Speaker 2>think somebody in one of the baseball chats said, who

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<v Speaker 2>writes so tany scripts? It felt like this was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be another WBC moment. You know, Otani comes up

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<v Speaker 2>two out s bottom of the ninth to save the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodger season. And even looking at the other guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and Rica Hernandez, you know, he's always had this postseason magic,

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<v Speaker 2>he thought, or maybe he's going to do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Will Smith he was up after Tarni. Rowhaus

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<v Speaker 2>was the guy nobody was looking at, certainly not to

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<v Speaker 2>tie the game. He thought, oh yeah, maybe if they

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<v Speaker 2>let one of these guys get on, then then Ty's

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<v Speaker 2>got a better chance to drive somebody in. But nobody

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking he's going to take Jeff Offman deep, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean Rowhouse h one home run off a right handed

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<v Speaker 2>starting picture, right handed picture full stop. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>this season just unreal that it was sehim. He stepped

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<v Speaker 2>up of ninety four ops he had against writes this season.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were making the list of like who would

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<v Speaker 2>you want in baseball, not just on these teams, who

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<v Speaker 2>would you want in baseball to come up in the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of the ninth of the team down by one.

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<v Speaker 2>Micguil Rohas would be very very far down that list

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<v Speaker 2>against especially against the writing this is not a thing

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<v Speaker 2>that should happen. But this is what makes baseball great, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is what makes it so hard to predict.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody can be a star at any point. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't know if there's ever been a better personification

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<v Speaker 2>of that than Rohas being the one to tie it,

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<v Speaker 2>and to tie it on a home run with just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>really really shocking, not a wall scraper, as you say,

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah, definitely got all of it. And I could

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<v Speaker 2>not believe it. You know, I was just waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>the Iffman could get him out. I did not think

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<v Speaker 2>this was going to be the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it took me back. I actually it took me

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<v Speaker 1>back a bit to the would I Davis home run

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<v Speaker 1>off Chapman for the Guardians back in that series against

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<v Speaker 1>the Cubs in twenty sixteen, but in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>unexpected source of power. But I almost think like in

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, we all knew that, like Davis was a

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<v Speaker 1>tying run and this was you know, he just had

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<v Speaker 1>to get hold of one.

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<v Speaker 3>It would tire the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It almost felt like we forgot here that Rojas was

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<v Speaker 1>able to swing the bat and could do something with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just yeah, folklore instant for Dodgers fans obviously, who I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure couldn't believe their rise. Broadcast, couldn't believe their Ryes Stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe their rise. It felt like an absolute pin

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<v Speaker 1>could drop. But yeah, what a moment for Rojas. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like you say, what an insane display of what makes

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<v Speaker 1>baseball so great in that moment. And then the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the inning, I'm gonna mess up the sequencing of

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what happened in what order here. I think Vladdy

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<v Speaker 1>doubled to lead off right and got himself in scoring

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<v Speaker 1>position with no outs. Then there was the bunt over

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<v Speaker 1>to get into third, which is a pretty good bunt

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<v Speaker 1>and actually very well fielded, but it was that smell

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<v Speaker 1>at that point. Who or am I confusing this with

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<v Speaker 1>the eleventh thing? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I confusing this to the eleven So I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think Vladdy bloody looked like he got one. That's right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>deep fly pinch run. Of course, the I KF which

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<v Speaker 2>is why he was in the game. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>think Barja walked and then there was a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of bench clearing action, just just a little cherry on top.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not having the benches clear as well? World Series

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<v Speaker 2>Game seven when well, I think it was not remotely intentional,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it was still quite quite intense.

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<v Speaker 3>That in the ninth inning.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that. I thought that was earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Maybe, yeah, you might be right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think now, maybe I'm thinking of a

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<v Speaker 2>different thing. So this is what this is what last

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<v Speaker 2>night was like. There was so much going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew this was going to happen. I think the

422
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<v Speaker 3>bench clan was a bit earlier in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was a hit in the ninth it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was Young Motor hit Kirk. Yeah that the hit

425
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<v Speaker 2>by pitch roblet Ski, wasn't it. Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking

426
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<v Speaker 2>of that one. Yeah, So Yamo Motor hits Kirk and

427
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<v Speaker 2>loads one out and then one out, which I think, yeah, yeah,

428
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<v Speaker 2>I get And again then you thought the Blue Jays

429
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<v Speaker 2>are going to are going to win this again. And

430
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<v Speaker 2>Andy Paes comes into the game, and first there's this

431
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<v Speaker 2>ground out, which is they get they get the force

432
00:20:24.759 --> 00:20:29.200
<v Speaker 2>at home barely, and there's a replay moment where Will

433
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<v Speaker 2>Smith's foot he reaches for the football ball and it

434
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<v Speaker 2>lifts up and it comes off the plate and just

435
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<v Speaker 2>in time, just before Isaiah kind of flaffer can get home.

436
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<v Speaker 2>His foot comes back onto the plate. But we are

437
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<v Speaker 2>talking fractions of a second here, so so easily could

438
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<v Speaker 2>have been different timing and ike to a dreadful lead

439
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<v Speaker 2>off the third base.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, I think screenshots came out,

441
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<v Speaker 1>didn't they if he was like a couple of feet

442
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<v Speaker 1>off the bag at third, maybe out of fear of

443
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<v Speaker 1>having another game set ending and being doubled up getting

444
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<v Speaker 1>too far off the bags.

445
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<v Speaker 3>Obviously the inn field was all drawn in.

446
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know if he was just a moment

447
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<v Speaker 1>where his mind went blank and he kind of forgot

448
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<v Speaker 1>that it would be helpful to be a bit further

449
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<v Speaker 1>down the line when a ground ball wins the game.

450
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<v Speaker 1>But he wasn't far enough off the bag. And then

451
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<v Speaker 1>I think as well, he chose to slid into home,

452
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<v Speaker 1>and I think, actually, if he sprints through home rather

453
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<v Speaker 1>than sliding again, it was so close, maybe that's enough

454
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<v Speaker 1>to beat it out. And then there was the awful

455
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<v Speaker 1>moment where there's instant replay has his foot lifted off.

456
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<v Speaker 1>As you said, it's like, oh my god, the World

457
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<v Speaker 1>Shows is about to end on instant replay.

458
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<v Speaker 3>In New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Fortunately, they decide that Will Smith kept just enough toe

460
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<v Speaker 1>on the base right before kind of for Leffer's. Yeah,

461
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<v Speaker 1>foot crossed over. So that was insane, Yeah, to get

462
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<v Speaker 1>us to two outs. And then as you say, Andy

463
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<v Speaker 1>Parters comes into the game, and I.

464
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<v Speaker 2>Mean watching this live, you could see that Hernander's just

465
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<v Speaker 2>had the terrible ball. So any Clement, which you know, again,

466
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<v Speaker 2>any Clement I think set the record for hits in

467
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<v Speaker 2>a postseason, which is just ridiculous sentence to say. I

468
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<v Speaker 2>know the postseasons longer now, but still only Clement come on.

469
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<v Speaker 2>So only Clement hits this deep flyball to left field,

470
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<v Speaker 2>and you can see that key K is just not

471
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<v Speaker 2>he's not under it, he's got it wrong. He's kind

472
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<v Speaker 2>of scrambling, he's looking over his shoulder, he's running towards

473
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<v Speaker 2>the wall. It's like, I don't think he's going to

474
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<v Speaker 2>make this catch. And out of nowhere, Andy Pye's he

475
00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:24.400
<v Speaker 2>comes barreling into the frame. He reaches up, he gloves

476
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<v Speaker 2>the ball, and obviously he runs directly into Hernandez and

477
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<v Speaker 2>somehow still holds onto the catch to save the game.

478
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<v Speaker 2>I was I think I actually shouted out loud at

479
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<v Speaker 2>that point because I couldn't believe that Pie hasn't made

480
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<v Speaker 2>that play and he literally choose to come into the

481
00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:43.799
<v Speaker 2>game for Tommy Edmund to play center field, and immediately

482
00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:47.680
<v Speaker 2>the ball finds him and he saves the Dodger season. Unreal.

483
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<v Speaker 1>See, I think, like you say, Nana's completely misulger saying

484
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<v Speaker 1>it off the bat. I you know, it kind of

485
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<v Speaker 1>look like a fairly routine flaball. And I know everything

486
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<v Speaker 1>Clement has hit this playoffs has just found grass, and

487
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<v Speaker 1>so wouldn't have been a shock if he just hit

488
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<v Speaker 1>one that found the gap. And like you say, the

489
00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:07.559
<v Speaker 1>minute the camera pans you see Hernandez first tracking towards

490
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<v Speaker 1>left center, then effectively running at a dead sprint backwards.

491
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<v Speaker 1>You're like, he's not got this. He would have had

492
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<v Speaker 1>to have performed an unbelievable basket catch or bring that in.

493
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<v Speaker 1>I look like he wasn't even going to get a

494
00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:20.200
<v Speaker 1>chance to do that. And then Pahez and smartly, I

495
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<v Speaker 1>guess maybe Paez goes high to catch it up in

496
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<v Speaker 1>front of the wall. Thereby at least there wasn't the

497
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<v Speaker 1>awful you know, like clash of arms, is that both

498
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<v Speaker 1>gloves go for the ball. He was well above Key

499
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<v Speaker 1>k Hernandez as he made the catch, and then how

500
00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:35.319
<v Speaker 1>he managed to hold on. I do not know one

501
00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:37.200
<v Speaker 1>batter into the gay having just been brought in in

502
00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:39.319
<v Speaker 1>case they need a stronger rhyme in the outfield. I

503
00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:41.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think Tommy Edmand makes that play. I'll say that.

504
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<v Speaker 1>And then there's this again, the shock silence of oh

505
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<v Speaker 1>my god, did he catch that?

506
00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:46.039
<v Speaker 3>He did?

507
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<v Speaker 1>We're going to the tenth and at that point, yeah,

508
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<v Speaker 1>Blue Jays fans must have been wondering which which god

509
00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:54.119
<v Speaker 1>out there had it out for them, because it just

510
00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:58.920
<v Speaker 1>felt like whatever they did, I just found a way

511
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<v Speaker 1>absolute and sanity.

512
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was That was really the way it felt.

513
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<v Speaker 2>It didn't feel that the Dodgers had controlled the game,

514
00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.200
<v Speaker 2>but it just seemed like every time there was a

515
00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:13.039
<v Speaker 2>moment that the Blue Jays could have taken it away,

516
00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:16.559
<v Speaker 2>they just sort of clung in there and and things

517
00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:17.559
<v Speaker 2>broke their way.

518
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<v Speaker 1>It was I mean, yeah, there were other moments too

519
00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:25.079
<v Speaker 1>that we could talk about. I think a few unbelievable

520
00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:28.640
<v Speaker 1>defensive plays that force out a home I guess to

521
00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:30.359
<v Speaker 1>start with that was Rohas as well, right where he

522
00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of stumbled and then through the I kf probably

523
00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:35.119
<v Speaker 1>should have beat it out, but still to kind of

524
00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:37.839
<v Speaker 1>make that play stumble, get the throw home strong enough

525
00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:40.079
<v Speaker 1>and accurate enough to get the out I thought was unbelievable.

526
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<v Speaker 1>There were two amazing defensive players of the Blue Jays

527
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<v Speaker 1>that come to mind. I think varshow and center field

528
00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:48.599
<v Speaker 1>had a diving catch that if he had misjudged, would

529
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<v Speaker 1>have scored at least one run, possibly two when they

530
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<v Speaker 1>were runners on base. I think that was the sack

531
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<v Speaker 1>fly the first that's right, bases were loaded.

532
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<v Speaker 2>It was one of those where Vartio is running in

533
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<v Speaker 2>and if he dives and if he misses it, it's

534
00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:07.880
<v Speaker 2>going to go, you know, right past him to the wall.

535
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<v Speaker 2>The bases are going to clear. Might want have been

536
00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:13.440
<v Speaker 2>a triple as well if he'd missed it. So yeah,

537
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:16.000
<v Speaker 2>it was absolutely crucial that he caught that ball. And

538
00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Varsio has been like that all postseason. He's made some

539
00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:23.279
<v Speaker 2>remarkable players for the Blue Jays. Really saved a lot

540
00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:25.519
<v Speaker 2>of runs, I think, and a lot of them he's

541
00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:27.960
<v Speaker 2>done where you don't really realize. I can't remember which

542
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:30.240
<v Speaker 2>game it was earlier in the week, but he sort

543
00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:33.119
<v Speaker 2>of got one, I think the Freeman hit and when

544
00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:34.920
<v Speaker 2>it came off the bat, you were like, well that's double.

545
00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Vartio sort of caught it like it was quite a

546
00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:40.839
<v Speaker 2>routine play, but I think he covered the colossal amount

547
00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:42.240
<v Speaker 2>of ground to get there. And it's one of those

548
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:44.559
<v Speaker 2>where if you have a bad sent fielder out there,

549
00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:46.640
<v Speaker 2>they're not getting it close to the ball, and if

550
00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:49.799
<v Speaker 2>they are, they're making some sort of spectacular diving attempt

551
00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:52.480
<v Speaker 2>and he just got it on the run. So yeah,

552
00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:56.160
<v Speaker 2>really underrated how Goodton Vartio is out there, and he

553
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:58.720
<v Speaker 2>really showed up this season. And then we have the

554
00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:03.039
<v Speaker 2>flat first base, which was extraordinary.

555
00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Such a good play, and that that was Edmond right,

556
00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and again they were runners on base at that point, right,

557
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.759
<v Speaker 1>and it's scolded down the line and Vlad lays out

558
00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:17.400
<v Speaker 1>makes the catch and he had an unbelievable defensive series,

559
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:20.039
<v Speaker 1>didn't he. I'm thinking back, there was a double player

560
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:23.200
<v Speaker 1>in this game where he made a great throat of

561
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<v Speaker 1>second and they doubled up Freeman at first when Ottani

562
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:27.599
<v Speaker 1>was running and he wouldn't have had time to go

563
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 1>to the bag and throw. He had a not double

564
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:32.160
<v Speaker 1>player in this series, but the play where he came

565
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:34.400
<v Speaker 1>off first base, picked the ball and then made a

566
00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>perfect strike throw to third for an out. I think

567
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:40.039
<v Speaker 1>it's easy for us to, well, I don't want to

568
00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:41.880
<v Speaker 1>speak for you, for me to look at Laddie and go,

569
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>that's a guy he's only ever going to give you

570
00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>value with his bat because he is a larger human

571
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>being who is not the most flexible guy in the world,

572
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:49.839
<v Speaker 1>but he has turned himself into an asset of first

573
00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:52.519
<v Speaker 1>base right and he I think save the Blue Jays

574
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:55.319
<v Speaker 1>runs multiple times this series with his glove and deserves

575
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.640
<v Speaker 1>a ton of respect and credit for that. Yeah, he's

576
00:26:57.640 --> 00:26:59.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, not going to win a goal glove anytimes,

577
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think. But he is so consistent,

578
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:05.440
<v Speaker 1>so solid over there, and made massive plays when the

579
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>boodieth needed him too. So yeah, again, another one of

580
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:10.079
<v Speaker 1>those guys who just when the lights shine brightest, he

581
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.839
<v Speaker 1>he has missed a dependable Yeah.

582
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<v Speaker 2>What I hear from from Blue Jays fans who've been

583
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:17.279
<v Speaker 2>watching them a lot is that he has really played

584
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:19.240
<v Speaker 2>well at first base all the season. This isn't just

585
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.519
<v Speaker 2>a you know, Nick Cassius in the playoffs thing this

586
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:25.000
<v Speaker 2>is this is a trend that's he's shown all year,

587
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 2>so I think he has worked really hard at it.

588
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:32.000
<v Speaker 2>And yeah he made some yeah just visually very impressive players,

589
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:34.880
<v Speaker 2>arm strength, the dive, he just you know, he look

590
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:36.559
<v Speaker 2>he looks pretty athletic out there now.

591
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:39.480
<v Speaker 3>He does.

592
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, trying to think of what else I guess the yeah,

593
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 1>the bench is emptying was insane where it was for

594
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a Blessie pitching, wasn't it? And and and just him

595
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and as batting and he did he went up and in?

596
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Was it? Three pitches in a royal certainly three times

597
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>in the at bat with fastballs, which I kind of

598
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>get if you're you're him, and edge would probably be

599
00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:00.160
<v Speaker 1>a bit annoyed when that first third one by you

600
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.799
<v Speaker 1>up in and actually catches you where it's like he

601
00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:05.240
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really crowd the plate. Fine, if your skyling report

602
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:06.400
<v Speaker 1>says go up and it and go up and in,

603
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:10.559
<v Speaker 1>but to miss three times or not far away from

604
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>his chest neck head, I can see why you'd be

605
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.519
<v Speaker 1>a bit annoyed. I do think at some point you

606
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>have to think, I don't think they're thurring at me

607
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.240
<v Speaker 1>as a number nine hitter in the World Series Game seven,

608
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>in like the sixth thinning of a one run game

609
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>seems unlikely and maybe calm ahead should have prevailed at

610
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.559
<v Speaker 1>that point, but look, emotions are running higher in this game, right,

611
00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and so I get why people were ready to go,

612
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 1>and that just happened to be the sort of spark

613
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:36.640
<v Speaker 1>that did it. But that was a sort of bizarre

614
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>moment of oh oh, the bench said, oh oh, the

615
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:42.599
<v Speaker 1>ballpens are clearing to Okay, sure, why not? This is

616
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:45.319
<v Speaker 1>one thing this game's been missing. So again, that must

617
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>have been bizarre to watch live. And you know, give

618
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>five minute respite from the tenth baseball to have a

619
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 1>few men stand around and hug each other in a

620
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>big circle on the infield.

621
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the pitch before he did, he kind of looked

622
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.240
<v Speaker 2>like he moved his hand towards it him and as

623
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>it was as wasn't really an avoidance of the pitch.

624
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:06.759
<v Speaker 2>But then, yeah, I think I don't know if anyone's

625
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:09.480
<v Speaker 2>had the lip reader treatment on Robleski, but I think

626
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:11.400
<v Speaker 2>he was saying something to the effect of, why the

627
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 2>f would I be trying to hit you at this point?

628
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:20.000
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that was that was I think what most

629
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:23.200
<v Speaker 2>of us were asking, why why would you plug Andreez?

630
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and entertaining to still say that that was

631
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the opinion that him had of the event. Even if

632
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching anybody else really believe that.

633
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:37.960
<v Speaker 3>I guess, yeah.

634
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe to speak a bit more generally about the series,

635
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>then the that bottom of the Blue Jays lineup, it

636
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:46.759
<v Speaker 1>felt like constantly you were just a menace, weren't they,

637
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:49.279
<v Speaker 1>And you know, him and Az didn't have a great

638
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.079
<v Speaker 1>season for the Blue Jays, and even in this World Series,

639
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:53.279
<v Speaker 1>it felt like he may be one of the weak

640
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:56.599
<v Speaker 1>links in this lineup, but you also had guys on

641
00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>there who were just contributing time and time again. Alison

642
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Barger ended up getting moved up the line for this game,

643
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't he I think he was in the five hole,

644
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>But he hit something like five hundred in the World Series,

645
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:06.119
<v Speaker 1>which is just insane. They could not figure out a

646
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:07.480
<v Speaker 1>way to get him out, even when it seemed like

647
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:09.359
<v Speaker 1>when he got beat by pitches, he was finding ways

648
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:10.519
<v Speaker 1>to line them.

649
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:13.079
<v Speaker 3>Into left field and get the barrel there. He was outrageous.

650
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Only Clement, like you said, Anie Barry Bonds, Clement setting

651
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the postseason record for hits he was just a total machine. Again,

652
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>they could not figure out a way to get him out.

653
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:26.359
<v Speaker 1>So it did feel like they're the Blue Jays line up,

654
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:29.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, perhaps less heralded than the Dodgers, it felt

655
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:31.119
<v Speaker 1>like they had the edge there where it was like

656
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>they're just seemed at times like there were no weak

657
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.359
<v Speaker 1>spots here, and that for all the amazing talent the

658
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Dodgers had in their rotation especially and in their football

659
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>pen at times that you just.

660
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:44.039
<v Speaker 3>If you made a mistake to anyone, it was going

661
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:44.799
<v Speaker 3>to get punished, you know.

662
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:46.839
<v Speaker 1>And the Blue Jays we was so so good at

663
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 1>just consistently getting traffic on base, making them pitch on

664
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the duress, forcing them to, yeah, to make great pitches,

665
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 1>and oftentimes as well having his runs on base, then

666
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>taking a base when a world pitch happens, and just constant,

667
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:02.359
<v Speaker 1>constant pressure and stress that Dodgers have to deal with.

668
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 1>So I think that to me, it was the kind

669
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.079
<v Speaker 1>of constant through the series was just the Blue Jays

670
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>lineup being unrelenting. Shout out I guess to George Springer too,

671
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>who clearly very injured in both Game six and Game seven,

672
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:17.599
<v Speaker 1>not just playing through it, but playing really well through

673
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:20.359
<v Speaker 1>it and managing to get you know, key hits at

674
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:21.039
<v Speaker 1>key times.

675
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:22.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, what a warrior.

676
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I know that the Blue Jays fans love him, but

677
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.759
<v Speaker 1>he definitely cemented his legacy with them in this series.

678
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that stood up to me. He was just

679
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.079
<v Speaker 1>how good this lineup was top to bottom in the

680
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>whole series.

681
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they really, They all played well. Springer when you

682
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>sort of hear in the regular season, well he'd play

683
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:43.960
<v Speaker 2>if it was I think that was that was definitely

684
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Springer this week. You know, you obviously sort of could play,

685
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think he ought to have been out

686
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.960
<v Speaker 2>there from like a medical stuff point. It's just this

687
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:55.640
<v Speaker 2>is the last game of the season and I am

688
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:57.480
<v Speaker 2>going to be out there if I can possibly move.

689
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:00.799
<v Speaker 2>So here we go. Same with him, and is the

690
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:04.400
<v Speaker 2>obviously is not right and you can still hit, but

691
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:06.279
<v Speaker 2>you can't run. And so I think he was just

692
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 2>gutting through it. Yeah, they were. Some of them were

693
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:12.440
<v Speaker 2>on their last legs, I think, but they all played

694
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.480
<v Speaker 2>fantastically well. Very interested to see.

695
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Sorry with the knee.

696
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I mean that home run if we didn't

697
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>even talk about it, but like Holly, like what a

698
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>moment where who was it in front of him they

699
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:27.519
<v Speaker 1>intentionally walked.

700
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:28.039
<v Speaker 3>Was it Flad?

701
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I believe it was.

702
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:32.640
<v Speaker 3>He must have been right.

703
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.559
<v Speaker 1>And then it was first pitch to him, right Toney

704
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>threw and he just I mean and talk about a

705
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>no doubt home run to the deepest part of the ballpark,

706
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:43.319
<v Speaker 1>the backdrop, the sort of slow limp around the basis

707
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:46.960
<v Speaker 1>that in itself just felt like, oh my god, what

708
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>like that? At the time, felt like we've just had

709
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>our World Series moment before there were fifteen more of

710
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>them to come. But playing on one leg, as you say,

711
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to have a.

712
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:59.559
<v Speaker 3>Moment like that is was just insane. And he ended

713
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:00.000
<v Speaker 3>up being the.

714
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:04.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, was causing all sorts of controls anyway, because

715
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.920
<v Speaker 2>they were giving him a lot. Also, you could tell

716
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:11.079
<v Speaker 2>that the control was just not there. You know, he

717
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.799
<v Speaker 2>threw a lot of pretty uncompetitive pitios. He was throwing

718
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:15.640
<v Speaker 2>them hard, but a lot of them were not going

719
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 2>anywhere near the strike zone. So I think it was

720
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:20.359
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a bridge too far for him,

721
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:23.039
<v Speaker 2>and he kind of got away with it through the

722
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:26.599
<v Speaker 2>first couple, but you could tell he didn't have stuff,

723
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>and obviously Roberts immediately pulled him after he gave up

724
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.839
<v Speaker 2>that home run for Robleskus, So yeah, it didn't didn't

725
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:36.599
<v Speaker 2>get to see the best of Otani, but obviously he

726
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>was on short rest and this was the best way

727
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.000
<v Speaker 2>to get him in the game because obviously they were

728
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.200
<v Speaker 2>allowed to keep the d H if he started it.

729
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.119
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think they maybe got a little bit

730
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:49.680
<v Speaker 2>lucky to only get away with three runs in some

731
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.960
<v Speaker 2>respects the way that he started watching it with the

732
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:57.680
<v Speaker 2>sequence of events. But yeah, not Otany's finest game in

733
00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:59.640
<v Speaker 2>this post season, which obviously the bar has been set

734
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:04.440
<v Speaker 2>very high. So I mean he's still he still had

735
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:06.240
<v Speaker 2>a couple of hits, right, h Yeah, he didn't, didn't

736
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 2>pitch great, but he's still I mean, and he's at

737
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 2>the plate, he is he is terrifying. But yeah, it wasn't.

738
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't necessarily going to be the the Atari game,

739
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.039
<v Speaker 1>and that much was quite clear quite early when when

740
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 1>he didn't quite have it on the mound. And I

741
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:19.519
<v Speaker 1>have some sympathy for Snyder when it comes to those

742
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:23.800
<v Speaker 1>millening breaks because I generally think we should make special

743
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:26.519
<v Speaker 1>exceptions for players as special as Otani, and that because

744
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:29.079
<v Speaker 1>no one else does what he does. Having the special

745
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>DH rule in place and other things that just allow

746
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>him to do what he does without the rules being

747
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.760
<v Speaker 1>a hindrance is a good thing. But I also think

748
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.159
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to have those rules in place and

749
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:42.320
<v Speaker 1>allow him to hit and pitch and stay in the game,

750
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.760
<v Speaker 1>he then should be when he's done hitting, rushing back

751
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:48.159
<v Speaker 1>out to the mount and getting ready to pitch again.

752
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>He shouldn't be given the benefit of an extra five

753
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>minutes to very slowly take off his batting gear and

754
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>very slowly come back out to the mound and very

755
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>slowly warm up. So yeah, while I understand that we

756
00:34:57.920 --> 00:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>want to see him as best, we don't want to

757
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>have an injury because he rushing from the plate to

758
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:03.880
<v Speaker 1>get back on the mound. I also think, like, hey,

759
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 1>this is a massive competitive advantage if he's allowed to

760
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:09.039
<v Speaker 1>catch his breath after every app bat he has and

761
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>get back on the mound and do things in his

762
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 1>own time. So I have some sympathy for Snyder on that.

763
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's something that he'd kind of

764
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:16.320
<v Speaker 1>been doing throughout the season and we only noticed it

765
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.039
<v Speaker 1>last night because of the stakes, but that does feel

766
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:22.519
<v Speaker 1>like something where as they say, my head would have

767
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>been on Mars if I were a Blue Jay's fan

768
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:26.800
<v Speaker 1>watching him get that extra special treatment there.

769
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the first inning it was maybe a

770
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:32.880
<v Speaker 2>bit more understandable because I believe he ended the inning

771
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:36.000
<v Speaker 2>on third base, so he spent the whole inning on

772
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.239
<v Speaker 2>the base paths sort of moved up on a couple

773
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:41.119
<v Speaker 2>of outs then, so then it was like, now he's

774
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:42.480
<v Speaker 2>got to run back to dug out, get rid of

775
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:44.039
<v Speaker 2>the pitch, and go out. But as she trying to

776
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:46.559
<v Speaker 2>point out the second inning, you know that that was

777
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:49.920
<v Speaker 2>not a problem that he had. So it was a

778
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.719
<v Speaker 2>little bit of a yeah, why are we still doing

779
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:54.559
<v Speaker 2>this the same thing that we did after the first

780
00:35:54.599 --> 00:36:00.400
<v Speaker 2>inning when yeah, he made an out. Yeah, I see

781
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:04.079
<v Speaker 2>his perspective, and fortunately it didn't end up being like

782
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:06.519
<v Speaker 2>a deciding factor in the game. I was kind of

783
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:08.199
<v Speaker 2>a bit worried, you know, that he was going to

784
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:11.599
<v Speaker 2>picture Jim after all this extra time, and then we

785
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:15.440
<v Speaker 2>would have show hatty too much warm up time discourse.

786
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 2>But that quickly sort of became a non issue with

787
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:20.440
<v Speaker 2>everything else progressing the game.

788
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that became like the thirty fifth most interesting talking

789
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>point from the game, which which is a relief and

790
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:29.519
<v Speaker 1>I guess number thirty six and very quickly forgotten, like

791
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>how good was mad Max in maybe his final starts,

792
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>possibly his final postseason start. I think we all assumed

793
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 1>he might be done after an inning or two and

794
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:39.920
<v Speaker 1>it would kind of be let's see what he's got

795
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>in the tank, And he ended up pitching into the

796
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>fifth I think, and looking really really sharp.

797
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

798
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I obviously didn't see every pitch, but from what they showed,

799
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:51.599
<v Speaker 1>he really had the Dodgers hit us off balance and

800
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:53.519
<v Speaker 1>probably you know, if they didn't have all the quality

801
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:56.119
<v Speaker 1>arms available to bring in, could have gone, could have

802
00:36:56.119 --> 00:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>gone deeper. So I always hate to see a picture

803
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:02.639
<v Speaker 1>as great as he has been put in a spot

804
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>like that where it's like, oh, are they just gonna

805
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.119
<v Speaker 1>look a sad shot of their former self and be

806
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 1>the reason the Blue Jays lose this game? But no,

807
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:12.079
<v Speaker 1>he stood up, was counted, had his awesome moment walking

808
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.320
<v Speaker 1>off the mound and getting the edulation of the crowd,

809
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:18.280
<v Speaker 1>So that again so quickly forgotten, but well worth a shout.

810
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:22.360
<v Speaker 3>Out that he was was absolute nails for the Blue Jays.

811
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was very mad Max thing to do, after

812
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:32.280
<v Speaker 2>having looked pretty being on the Alds roster, for him

813
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 2>to come out there and be like, don't you know

814
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:38.599
<v Speaker 2>who I am? You know, I'm Max Siez And I

815
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.280
<v Speaker 2>got this, and certainly through the first three innings he

816
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:44.079
<v Speaker 2>looked pretty comfortable. Things got away from a little bit

817
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 2>in that that fourth obviously, but Vasha made that that

818
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:53.480
<v Speaker 2>catch to kind of save the inning, and I did

819
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:55.360
<v Speaker 2>wonder whether we were going to get, you know, more,

820
00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.159
<v Speaker 2>when he was being removed from the game, whether we

821
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:01.400
<v Speaker 2>were going to get more of a Max objection because

822
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:03.920
<v Speaker 2>he had he hadn't thrown that many pitches. But I

823
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:08.719
<v Speaker 2>think even he knew that this did the time. I

824
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:12.719
<v Speaker 2>think this is the fourth time now that he's started.

825
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.239
<v Speaker 2>They had some graphic I think, you know, a World

826
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Series elimination game. I think it might be the fourth

827
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:21.000
<v Speaker 2>time he started on them, which not many people have

828
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:23.880
<v Speaker 2>done obviously, because you don't get crazy unless you have

829
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 2>a very long career, and I think he's obviously done

830
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:28.880
<v Speaker 2>it for several different teams at this point in time

831
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:34.440
<v Speaker 2>as well. Yeah, quite an unusual start to have, but yeah,

832
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:37.320
<v Speaker 2>I love Max. I don't know whether we'll see any

833
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:38.639
<v Speaker 2>more of him, and if we do, I'm kind of

834
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:41.239
<v Speaker 2>nervous that it's not going to go very well. But

835
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:43.679
<v Speaker 2>it was really nice to see him have a pretty

836
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 2>good start in this massive game.

837
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he started twenty nineteen Mod Series Game seven, didn't

838
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:51.679
<v Speaker 1>he for the Nationals? Obviously in a game that they

839
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>ended up winning. Was that the most recent Word series

840
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:56.559
<v Speaker 1>games even tho if we've had one since then? But

841
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:59.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, still awesome for a guy to start

842
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:02.800
<v Speaker 1>two separate World Series. Game seven's for two separate teams.

843
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Would have been awesome if you could have ended up

844
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>on the winning side of both. But I think testament

845
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to how good he's been for so long and how

846
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:11.559
<v Speaker 1>he's the guy you won on the mound in those

847
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:12.079
<v Speaker 1>big spots.

848
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:14.320
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that was that was very cool.

849
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like we could talk more about this game.

850
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you want to talk about some

851
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:21.760
<v Speaker 1>of the other games. Where do you stand on Game six?

852
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:27.119
<v Speaker 1>Ball stuck in the bottom of the wall, called a

853
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:29.440
<v Speaker 1>dead ball by the umpires? Runners stay on second and third.

854
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll let you go first. I don't think it really

855
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:36.199
<v Speaker 1>mattered in the end, right because the runner at second

856
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.119
<v Speaker 1>gos strandy, which ultimately was a tying run. But did

857
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:41.119
<v Speaker 1>you feel the Blue Jays were hard done by the

858
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:44.519
<v Speaker 1>decision there to call time and put both runners on

859
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:45.599
<v Speaker 1>second and third.

860
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it's pretty clear that that was the right

861
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:52.280
<v Speaker 2>decision by the rules. I think it's emblematic of the

862
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.760
<v Speaker 2>fact that the Blue Leay just did not really get

863
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:56.960
<v Speaker 2>any of the luck going their way these last couple

864
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:01.519
<v Speaker 2>of games, perhaps the most emblematic, just like, come on,

865
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:04.079
<v Speaker 2>can we have one give us one break? Give us

866
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:08.320
<v Speaker 2>that was kind of yeah. But yeah, I know that

867
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:11.079
<v Speaker 2>lots of people are getting mad about it, But yeah,

868
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:13.679
<v Speaker 2>that is the rule. You know, are pretty clear about this.

869
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:16.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's you know, if you ask anybody

870
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:18.719
<v Speaker 2>who umpires, they're going to say the same thing. That

871
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:21.400
<v Speaker 2>is the clear correct decision. So I don't think there's

872
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:23.480
<v Speaker 2>a controversy in that regard. I think it was just

873
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:26.760
<v Speaker 2>bad luck for Toronto, and we saw quite a lot

874
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:28.480
<v Speaker 2>of that over the last couple of nights.

875
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:29.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm in agreement.

876
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:32.159
<v Speaker 1>I think people are getting stuck up on the fact

877
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:34.639
<v Speaker 1>that the ball could have been easily taken away from

878
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.119
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the wall. Obviously, when the ball was removed,

879
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:39.760
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't lodged in a way that it was impossible

880
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:41.199
<v Speaker 1>to get out. But I think the rules, as you say,

881
00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>are super clear on this like, when the ball is

882
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>stuck like that, the one thing you cannot do, as

883
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.119
<v Speaker 1>the fielding player is try to remove it and then

884
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:50.440
<v Speaker 1>decide that actually you can't because once you try to

885
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:53.639
<v Speaker 1>play the ball, you are then stuck. So completely the

886
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:56.440
<v Speaker 1>right decision from well just sent a fielder whose name

887
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:58.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm blanking on, who came into the game for like

888
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>four total outs in the world, isn't managed to find

889
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.480
<v Speaker 1>himself in the center of that controversy for pitting his

890
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:06.440
<v Speaker 1>hands up immediately and noticing that the ball was lodged.

891
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Insane luck that the ball.

892
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I've never ever seen a ball get stuck out the

893
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:11.639
<v Speaker 1>roy just center before you see it sometimes like in

894
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:14.079
<v Speaker 1>other stadiums where there are walls like at Wriglio as

895
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the Ivy, I've never seen a ball mount of wedge

896
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.079
<v Speaker 1>itself between the foam and field like that, which again

897
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:22.039
<v Speaker 1>speaks to their bad luck. But I think the rules

898
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.440
<v Speaker 1>are super clear in that that was the correct decision

899
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:28.079
<v Speaker 1>and as I said, ultimately didn't really matter because yes,

900
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:30.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe that run from third scores, but that run from

901
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:33.440
<v Speaker 1>second wouldn't have. And then the double play to end

902
00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:37.199
<v Speaker 1>it another just insane moment, an insane series, but kik Hernandez,

903
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.360
<v Speaker 1>as you say, always seems to find himself at the

904
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 1>center of something crazy when it comes to these big games,

905
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:45.280
<v Speaker 1>this time getting a great jump on that the line,

906
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.079
<v Speaker 1>driving line drive to left field, making the catch, throwing

907
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:51.320
<v Speaker 1>to second base where Row has made an excellent pick

908
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:54.119
<v Speaker 1>for the double play to end. It hard to pin

909
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:57.400
<v Speaker 1>blame on whoever that was at second who's strayed a

910
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.159
<v Speaker 1>little bit too far off the bats at Barger, But.

911
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:03.039
<v Speaker 3>Another insane way for the game to end.

912
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yet another insane way for the game to end. Yeah.

913
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:16.119
<v Speaker 2>I think the sort of this, generally speaking, we have

914
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:19.960
<v Speaker 2>seen maybe a bit more pretendency towards aggressive base running.

915
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I think the numbers suggest that maybe base coaches are

916
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:26.159
<v Speaker 2>a little bit too safe in the aggregate, and that

917
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.320
<v Speaker 2>they don't take risks quite as often as they should.

918
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:31.159
<v Speaker 2>I think this Blue Jays seems been pretty good at

919
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:34.360
<v Speaker 2>pushing the boundaries and sort of extracting some extra value

920
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:38.000
<v Speaker 2>out of lots of bits of the game. But yeah,

921
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:41.239
<v Speaker 2>it was another thing on a night of you know,

922
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:45.000
<v Speaker 2>very small margins of Could the Blue Jays have easily

923
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.039
<v Speaker 2>won this game? Yeah? They absolutely kids, just only what

924
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 2>scored three runs. So when you think about the ball

925
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:54.400
<v Speaker 2>stuck in the wall and this. Yeah, it was kind

926
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 2>of just one of those nights where you felt that

927
00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:58.840
<v Speaker 2>nothing was going to quite pan their way.

928
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the theme through the series.

929
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess we should talk as well of skipping around

930
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:07.639
<v Speaker 1>a lot here, So feel free to take this somewhere else.

931
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>But trey Ya Savage and what he did through the

932
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.800
<v Speaker 1>series and especially in Game five, a story that's been

933
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:15.760
<v Speaker 1>talked about a lot in that he started the year

934
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:19.519
<v Speaker 1>out in single A. Hia obviously, worked his way up

935
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.519
<v Speaker 1>through the different rungs of minor league baseball, ended up

936
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:24.320
<v Speaker 1>pitching in the World Series, which in itself is an

937
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:25.119
<v Speaker 1>absurd story.

938
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:26.400
<v Speaker 3>But then that performance with.

939
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Twelve strikeouts in six innings was it, I mean, just

940
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:34.360
<v Speaker 1>an unbelievable pitching performance against one of the best lineups

941
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:39.519
<v Speaker 1>in baseball, given the circumstances, given yeah, the opponent, given

942
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:44.280
<v Speaker 1>his experience level. It was yeah, absolutely insane and would

943
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:45.800
<v Speaker 1>have been one of the main storylines if the Blue

944
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:47.760
<v Speaker 1>J's had managed to hold on, of course, overshadowed at

945
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:50.199
<v Speaker 1>the end by Yamamoto who said, that's cute. I'll do

946
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the same thing, just you know, without ever having to

947
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.519
<v Speaker 1>rest or sleep. But I think worth a shout out

948
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>to Trey who. I mean, the Blue Jays could not

949
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:00.679
<v Speaker 1>have asked for anymore, and when they probably needed a

950
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:04.519
<v Speaker 1>dominant starting pitching performance, you know, ended up relying most

951
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.639
<v Speaker 1>on the twenty one year old kid who'd you know,

952
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 1>never never played a Major League baseball game before about August.

953
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's this was his eighth start in the majors.

954
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:19.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's made three in the regular season and

955
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.039
<v Speaker 2>five and seasons. We've alstill got any appearance out of

956
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:25.119
<v Speaker 2>him last night as well, which is kind of nuts.

957
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:29.079
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, most most strikeouts by a rookie in a

958
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.159
<v Speaker 2>World Series game. First time anybody's ever struck out twelve

959
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:35.320
<v Speaker 2>without walking the batter. I think he's going to be

960
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:38.440
<v Speaker 2>fascinating to see what happens next season. And there's been

961
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:40.920
<v Speaker 2>loads of speculation as well, you know, is it because

962
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:42.719
<v Speaker 2>he's got the high arm slaugh of people just not

963
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:47.039
<v Speaker 2>used to seeing him. But I think we saw his attitude.

964
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I think before he came out for that first post

965
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:52.039
<v Speaker 2>season start, he was just like, I'm built for this,

966
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:54.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready, you know, let's let's go. It didn't seehim

967
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:58.360
<v Speaker 2>phased by the pressure at all. He was really looked

968
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:00.599
<v Speaker 2>like he was worn to be there pretty much, So

969
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:06.000
<v Speaker 2>wonderful performance from your savage And yeah, the Jays and

970
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:08.360
<v Speaker 2>we've seen lots of draft pics get to the majors

971
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:11.920
<v Speaker 2>quite fast in recent years, but yeah, for him to

972
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:14.440
<v Speaker 2>be drafted last year and then playing this role for

973
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:17.000
<v Speaker 2>them this year is pretty nuts.

974
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:18.199
<v Speaker 3>Same.

975
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dominated the Yankees in the DS as well, didn't he?

976
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.320
<v Speaker 1>And of course the league will with a Joss. He

977
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:26.440
<v Speaker 1>always due to pitchers who could come in as rookies.

978
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:29.559
<v Speaker 1>But seeing the way his stuff was working in Game

979
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.360
<v Speaker 1>five and that splitter especially just looks like like when

980
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that pitch is good, it kind of doesn't really matter

981
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:36.800
<v Speaker 1>how many times you've seen him. I think he's going

982
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:40.280
<v Speaker 1>to be very effective with that. So yeah, it almost

983
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:42.800
<v Speaker 1>becomes yeah, interesting to see how that plays out in

984
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:44.039
<v Speaker 1>future years.

985
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:45.679
<v Speaker 3>But what an unbelievable.

986
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:48.119
<v Speaker 1>First go around for him in a way to embed

987
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:51.519
<v Speaker 1>himself in the hearts and minds of Jays fans. We

988
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.639
<v Speaker 1>could probably keep talking from the forty five minutes about this,

989
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:56.360
<v Speaker 1>but is there anything in particular you want to call out,

990
00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:58.079
<v Speaker 1>whether it be that we've missed from Game seven or

991
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.440
<v Speaker 1>just from the series in general, that we need to

992
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.480
<v Speaker 1>note now knowing we can probably come back in a

993
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:04.760
<v Speaker 1>week when our brains are less scrambled and talk about

994
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:07.280
<v Speaker 1>it a bit more from a big picture perspective. But yeah,

995
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.199
<v Speaker 1>any other standout moments for you that you think we

996
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 1>should call out before we call it a day.

997
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:17.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure we've missed loads of moments that people

998
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 2>are yelling at us. I guess, you know, Tony being

999
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:26.360
<v Speaker 2>on base nine times in a world serious game and

1000
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:30.280
<v Speaker 2>also hitting three home runs is sort of the faintly

1001
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:33.800
<v Speaker 2>absurd thing that we've just come to expect from him doing.

1002
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:36.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, people start saying things like, this is the

1003
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:39.679
<v Speaker 2>show here, Tony game. You can't have the show. It's

1004
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:41.840
<v Speaker 2>just another show how Tarney game, isn't it? And there

1005
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:44.199
<v Speaker 2>are too many Atorney games at this point in time.

1006
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:46.559
<v Speaker 2>I think there are probably at least four or five

1007
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:51.559
<v Speaker 2>already you could call the Otorney game. He's just remarkable.

1008
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:54.840
<v Speaker 2>And I don't blame Schneider for just saying I'm done,

1009
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:58.039
<v Speaker 2>let's give him the Bonds treatment. We're not facing him anymore.

1010
00:46:58.119 --> 00:46:58.719
<v Speaker 3>Just take first.

1011
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty incredible. I think I think Will Smith not

1012
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:04.559
<v Speaker 2>not just for the home run, but you know, he

1013
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.119
<v Speaker 2>caught every inning of this old series, including one game

1014
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:13.039
<v Speaker 2>that was two games and and still was there in

1015
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:16.360
<v Speaker 2>the eleventh inning of Game seven hitting a walk off

1016
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:16.800
<v Speaker 2>home run.

1017
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:18.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1018
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Real, just incredible stuff from Will Smith. He's had to

1019
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:23.480
<v Speaker 2>just carry a load. The Dodgers have just not had

1020
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:26.119
<v Speaker 2>a backup catch they can trust. They can't put Smith

1021
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:29.679
<v Speaker 2>at d H anyway, so he's in this situation where

1022
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:32.280
<v Speaker 2>he kind of has to go out there and be

1023
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:34.920
<v Speaker 2>the guy for them. And that's a really difficult thing

1024
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:36.880
<v Speaker 2>to do when you've already played a four season as

1025
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:39.760
<v Speaker 2>catch it and then playing another month, and and not

1026
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:42.199
<v Speaker 2>just in a role where you're sort of doing a timeshare,

1027
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:46.119
<v Speaker 2>but playing the amount that Smith does. It's pretty remarkable.

1028
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:53.639
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, out to Will Smith for a great postseason. Yeah,

1029
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:58.440
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, I think that's about it for me. If

1030
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:01.159
<v Speaker 2>the's anyone else that iarticularly one single out, I think

1031
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:05.239
<v Speaker 2>we've touched the main points. Just a tremendous world series

1032
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:08.039
<v Speaker 2>all around, really, and we thought that it was it

1033
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:09.920
<v Speaker 2>was shaping up to be a good matchup, but I

1034
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:11.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know that anybody could have expected it would be

1035
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:12.880
<v Speaker 2>quite this good.

1036
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:18.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, maybe we'll finish with that.

1037
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:20.079
<v Speaker 1>I'll throw it to you and we can maybe work

1038
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>out just obviously while it's all very raw in our brains,

1039
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:25.119
<v Speaker 1>but we'll kind of wear this ranks in World Series

1040
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>that you've watched in your lifetime, and same for me.

1041
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:29.519
<v Speaker 3>It's higher up. I'll say that right now.

1042
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Last thing I'll say just on that eighteen inning game

1043
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>that in itself obviously just absurd A Fernie Freeman.

1044
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Who else I was?

1045
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, as quite a few of us were awake

1046
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:41.159
<v Speaker 1>in time to catch the final inning of that game

1047
00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:41.840
<v Speaker 1>to finished.

1048
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:43.400
<v Speaker 3>I think it was about quarter.

1049
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Past seven UK time or something like that in the morning,

1050
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:48.920
<v Speaker 1>So that was insane to wake up and start watching

1051
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:51.400
<v Speaker 1>a bit of breakfast baseball. And of course it was yeah,

1052
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Fredie who who ended things in the eighteenth shout out

1053
00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:55.719
<v Speaker 1>in that game to a friend of the pod, Will Klein,

1054
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:57.880
<v Speaker 1>who I don't think many people.

1055
00:48:57.639 --> 00:48:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Had heard off before the World Series started.

1056
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:02.599
<v Speaker 1>May even have forgotten about now given everything else that happened,

1057
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:06.119
<v Speaker 1>but wow, what a nails performance in that game to go.

1058
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it was three innings in the end or

1059
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:11.679
<v Speaker 1>certainly two plus against has mentioned a very formidable lineup

1060
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:13.079
<v Speaker 1>and get key outs for the Dodgers.

1061
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:14.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they don't win the World Series without without

1062
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:16.320
<v Speaker 3>that performance. So shout out Will Climb.

1063
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I knew, I forget someone Will clinb The people

1064
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.719
<v Speaker 2>who don't know. Will Cline is, you know, a middle reliever,

1065
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:28.159
<v Speaker 2>not a preferred middle reliever for the Dodgers. Just a guy,

1066
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:32.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, kicking around on waivers kind of guy. Definitely

1067
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:36.760
<v Speaker 2>not throw seventy plus pictures type of guy. I believe

1068
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:40.800
<v Speaker 2>he doubled his previous career high in pictures in this game.

1069
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:44.719
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, for him to reel that off when they

1070
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.920
<v Speaker 2>just they had nobody else, he just had to keep

1071
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:50.400
<v Speaker 2>going out there. And I think that that care of

1072
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 2>ball he snapped off to finish the appearance when clearly

1073
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:56.440
<v Speaker 2>he was done, you know, there was there was nothing left,

1074
00:49:56.760 --> 00:50:00.639
<v Speaker 2>and he still somehow found it in himself to do that. Yeah,

1075
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:05.519
<v Speaker 2>that's an incredible performance and right up there with Rohaus

1076
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:10.360
<v Speaker 2>as unexpected heroic performances from guys who just didn't I

1077
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:12.559
<v Speaker 2>think we're even going to be in these situations.

1078
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it felt like a series full of just those

1079
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>moments as players have just Yeah, we'll look back and

1080
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>be unable to believe how good it was. So yeah,

1081
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:25.199
<v Speaker 1>well I guess for me, and again it's very fresh

1082
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:26.719
<v Speaker 1>in the mind. So but it feels like one of

1083
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:29.199
<v Speaker 1>the best Worlds hears I've ever had the pleasure of watching.

1084
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Following I kind of wish I'd been able to watch

1085
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:33.519
<v Speaker 1>more of it live. I'd salute the Blue Jays fans

1086
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Dodgers fans who were able to stick it out for

1087
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:37.440
<v Speaker 1>all the games in the series of certainly majority of

1088
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:39.079
<v Speaker 1>the thing. I know there were some really great turnouts

1089
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:42.559
<v Speaker 1>that Patty Young avenue for watch parties to see it.

1090
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:46.280
<v Speaker 3>I wish I was able to do that Game one.

1091
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:48.119
<v Speaker 3>I was actually in the US four, so I watched.

1092
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:50.039
<v Speaker 1>It in the airport as we were flying out the

1093
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:51.480
<v Speaker 1>very start of game one, but the rest of it,

1094
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately was unable to make the sleep sacrifice work.

1095
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:58.000
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, from what I did see, I think this

1096
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:01.920
<v Speaker 1>is up there with maybe that Cubs Guardians World series

1097
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:03.880
<v Speaker 1>back in twenty sixteen would stand out to me as

1098
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:06.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest of all time. That Giants Royals

1099
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:08.719
<v Speaker 1>World series. I'm sure you'll mention where Matt bum did

1100
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 1>his thing. Trying to think of other Cardinals Red Sox,

1101
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:17.840
<v Speaker 1>that was the Crazy World series with the freeze.

1102
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:18.079
<v Speaker 3>Off the Wall.

1103
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, no, that was card That was Cardinals, who are

1104
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:28.000
<v Speaker 1>they playing in that World series? Tigers, Rangers, Rangers? That

1105
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:29.719
<v Speaker 1>World series was crazy. That was kind of right when

1106
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I started getting into the sport. So I think there

1107
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:34.159
<v Speaker 1>have been other World Series that have had insane moments,

1108
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:36.800
<v Speaker 1>games that have obviously gone six or seven games, but

1109
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:40.440
<v Speaker 1>this one feels like, for just how every game had

1110
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:43.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of insane storylines and moments that it might be

1111
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the best of the twenty first century. But yeah,

1112
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:47.800
<v Speaker 1>where does it rank for you among those that you

1113
00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:49.559
<v Speaker 1>were able to follow and watch.

1114
00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's right up there with the Cubs World Series,

1115
00:51:54.880 --> 00:52:00.639
<v Speaker 2>I think obviously, I personally have watching watching Bumganner come

1116
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:04.199
<v Speaker 2>out of the ballpenders and then just finishing the game

1117
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.000
<v Speaker 2>for like, you know, after pitching five plus innings is

1118
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:09.760
<v Speaker 2>one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. I

1119
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:12.320
<v Speaker 2>don't think the rest of the series had the level

1120
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.719
<v Speaker 2>of ludicrous moments that this series did. And even that

1121
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Game seven was not like this Game seven. It was

1122
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:21.519
<v Speaker 2>not not the same back and forth. It had that

1123
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:23.000
<v Speaker 2>that thing, that thing that people are always going to

1124
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:24.960
<v Speaker 2>remember when you say, Madison Bumgarner, You're gonna be like

1125
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Game seven twenty fourteen. Yeah, remember that but it didn't

1126
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:29.920
<v Speaker 2>have all the moments that we just talked about. I

1127
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:31.880
<v Speaker 2>don't think we could have done a whole podcast of

1128
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:34.880
<v Speaker 2>here's the great moment in that game seven, it was

1129
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:37.639
<v Speaker 2>just oh, Madison Bumgamon came out, and then maybe the

1130
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:39.239
<v Speaker 2>worlds are going to turn it around the ninth They

1131
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:42.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't that. That's kind of what happened in that game. Yeah,

1132
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:46.239
<v Speaker 2>that Cubs World Series and the rag Davis moment and

1133
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:48.679
<v Speaker 2>the fact that you know, all the weight of history

1134
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:51.320
<v Speaker 2>on that game as well, I think sort of elevated

1135
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:54.599
<v Speaker 2>that that one. I guess the other one that comes

1136
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:57.199
<v Speaker 2>to mind, which maybe is tainted by history now, is

1137
00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:01.719
<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen with the asterism. Yeah, we'll obviously never know

1138
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:06.000
<v Speaker 2>to what extent, if any the Astros had any banging

1139
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 2>schemes or otherwise going on, but that was a remarkable matchup.

1140
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:15.000
<v Speaker 2>They had some just absolutely thrilling, high scoring back and forth.

1141
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:17.519
<v Speaker 2>I think it was it was a game five back

1142
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:18.039
<v Speaker 2>then that was.

1143
00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:23.039
<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, but games brings home run in that game.

1144
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Games even was not as good as the one,

1145
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:31.039
<v Speaker 2>and I think I think in terms of sheer, like

1146
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:34.000
<v Speaker 2>can you believe that happened? Moments, I don't remember a

1147
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:37.880
<v Speaker 2>world series like this ever happening. We can all remember

1148
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.360
<v Speaker 2>the one or two, you know that, the David Freeze

1149
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:46.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of moments, but you know the things. I'm sure

1150
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.880
<v Speaker 2>we have missed other things that we're not mentioned, But

1151
00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:54.679
<v Speaker 2>there were so many ludicrous performances, Yeah, shocking turns and yeah,

1152
00:53:54.960 --> 00:54:00.320
<v Speaker 2>entirely being ridiculous and Will Klein and Rojas and yeah,

1153
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:03.440
<v Speaker 2>all the things that we've said today and manymore. I

1154
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:05.480
<v Speaker 2>can't think of a world series that had all of

1155
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:08.840
<v Speaker 2>that and was as competitive as this on top, you know,

1156
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:10.159
<v Speaker 2>I think that really did have everything.

1157
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, I like you say.

1158
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I think when there's probably a fun discussion for another

1159
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.519
<v Speaker 1>time when we get into the dark days of winter

1160
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:21.119
<v Speaker 1>and no baseball. But for like historic importance, you know,

1161
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:23.639
<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers going back to back ho hum, maybe doesn't

1162
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:25.719
<v Speaker 1>have the same ring to it as the clubs snapping

1163
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:27.840
<v Speaker 1>their drought or like White some Red Sox or some

1164
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:30.920
<v Speaker 1>of those other unbelievable series that we've got the chance

1165
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:31.280
<v Speaker 1>to watch.

1166
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:32.760
<v Speaker 3>But I think for just pure.

1167
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Moments intrigue, big players stepping up, drama and being honest,

1168
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:42.960
<v Speaker 1>just unbelievably good baseball, like amazing starting pitching, amazing relief pitching,

1169
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:46.880
<v Speaker 1>amazing hitting, some unbelievable fielding, Like the quality of baseball

1170
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:51.800
<v Speaker 1>under the highest, highest pressure was just a joy to watch.

1171
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:54.440
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, as I say, I know, it's all quite

1172
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:56.199
<v Speaker 1>emotional and raw right now. So we've just seen it.

1173
00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:58.599
<v Speaker 1>But it's hard to think of a game that beats

1174
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:00.599
<v Speaker 1>last night's game, and a series of beats that one.

1175
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:02.920
<v Speaker 1>But I'm sure we can find time to try and

1176
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:05.760
<v Speaker 1>place it in its proper historical context at some point,

1177
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:09.320
<v Speaker 1>anything else before we call it a day. Hopefully we

1178
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:11.480
<v Speaker 1>back again. I mean, we have not podded in a while.

1179
00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:13.159
<v Speaker 1>There's a bunch of other really cool stuff that happened

1180
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:15.480
<v Speaker 1>throughout the playoffs that it would be nice to maybe

1181
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:17.360
<v Speaker 1>talk about at some point, but I think we felt

1182
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:19.960
<v Speaker 1>like we needed to dedicate the best part of an

1183
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:22.480
<v Speaker 1>hour just to talking about last night and what happened

1184
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:26.079
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, and any final words before we recall it there.

1185
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we can get around to a post

1186
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:33.679
<v Speaker 2>season moratorium and a bit of a look ahead. Surely.

1187
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm always struck by how quickly we have to transition

1188
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:40.840
<v Speaker 2>from hey, it wasn't the World Series called to you know,

1189
00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:44.000
<v Speaker 2>off season rumors and signings and you know, a lot,

1190
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:45.199
<v Speaker 2>a lot of action is going to happen in the

1191
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:48.000
<v Speaker 2>next few days now with guys getting released and you know,

1192
00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:50.119
<v Speaker 2>those deals that were already agreed getting signed.

1193
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:50.880
<v Speaker 3>There.

1194
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:55.280
<v Speaker 2>I think eight managers have been fired this year, so

1195
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:57.760
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of turnover in that side of the

1196
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:02.199
<v Speaker 2>game as well. So yeah, a lot to come. Where's

1197
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Carl Tuck are going to go? We're going to get

1198
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:05.800
<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff over the next few weeks

1199
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:09.119
<v Speaker 2>quickly following, and all the awards, of course, will be

1200
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:10.760
<v Speaker 2>what we're coming up too, so we can have the

1201
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:13.360
<v Speaker 2>cal rally Err and Judge debate at some point, I'm sure,

1202
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:16.679
<v Speaker 2>but I think that that wraps this World Series for now.

1203
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's enough World Series chat. Let's get back to

1204
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:22.519
<v Speaker 1>the important stuff like who should be winning Manager of

1205
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.079
<v Speaker 1>the Year. Yeah, No, plenty of time for us to

1206
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:29.800
<v Speaker 1>get into all that, and I'm sure we will. So yeah, thanks,

1207
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:32.079
<v Speaker 1>thanks everyone for listening, Thanks Darius for jumping on and

1208
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:34.840
<v Speaker 1>talking baseball with me, and we will be back soon

1209
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:36.920
<v Speaker 1>to talk about some of the other stuff going on

1210
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:39.480
<v Speaker 1>in the world of baseball. But yeah, what a night

1211
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:41.320
<v Speaker 1>for the sport, What a night to be a fan

1212
00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:45.199
<v Speaker 1>of any team commiserations. Blue Jays fans. That is about

1213
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:49.320
<v Speaker 1>as bad as a loss can possibly get. But maybe

1214
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:51.519
<v Speaker 1>in time you'll look back and think about how awesome

1215
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:53.559
<v Speaker 1>this series was and how much of a joy it

1216
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:56.000
<v Speaker 1>was to watch that team and Dodgers fans conngratch, you

1217
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.320
<v Speaker 1>did it again. You've bought the World series. I hope

1218
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:02.320
<v Speaker 1>you're happy. What's a sad little I'm only joking, it was.

1219
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:04.000
<v Speaker 1>It was great fun to watch you, so yeah, thanks

1220
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:04.400
<v Speaker 1>for listening.

1221
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Goodbye,
