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Speaker 5: It's that button has the minus on it.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I guess we're going. So I got this.
Speaker 5: Stopped cursing on air.
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like the touch like light up bar at the top. Yeah,
and it's like a seven eight year old computer now,
not a flex and so sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
So now I got to go into like the settings.
Speaker 5: You can do that.
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Speaker 6: Hey, but you're doing great though. You're really like settling
into your role the life.
Speaker 5: You're doing great.
Speaker 2: You're doing so good. Words affirmation improved so much. Oh
my gosh, that was great.
Speaker 6: Good Yeah, I'm being serious.
Speaker 5: I would love I would I don't.
Speaker 7: I'm sure there's a way, Like I would love to
go back to see our first show in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 6: Probably archives somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be better than anything we do now.
Speaker 5: Well I say it all the time, but like, oh,
this is radio.
Speaker 2: We got away with so much.
Speaker 7: Like we did a full show on meth gators, We
did a full show on Chuck Norris jokes.
Speaker 2: I mean we could get away with that now.
Speaker 5: Now you could. But like we pushed the limits.
Speaker 7: Sure, probably back down a little bit more because there's
different rules at night. Yeah, nighttime radio.
Speaker 2: And wait, less people listening.
Speaker 5: That's fair too, Wait lets people who care, that's fair.
It was us, uh, the landra we had.
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are still here. Shout out to Craig and Nook.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, actually, I'm pretty it's pretty excited about that. Twelve
bucks man A lot better than some of the cards
I got out there.
Speaker 5: It was like a dollar ninety nine.
Speaker 2: Speaking up, we got two nice cards here today. All right,
before we get into training camp. Talk what do we
have for trading camp? You're right, more like trading cards. Uh,
this is this is Jacob Hester's right here. Check this out.
This is a Joe Montaigne. That's right. Never heard of
this rookie card.
Speaker 5: Nineteen eighty one tops rookie autograph.
Speaker 2: Autograph Joe, never heard of him. Now we're going to
go from one quarterback to another.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just gonna probably hit a little bit harder here.
Speaker 2: Jade and Daniels Lshoe fans should be familiar with him. Yeah,
quarterback in the NFL, Jaydon Daniels kaboom boom grated. That's
called a ten grade at a ten, that is a
that's a billy bob ten. That's a that's a big boy.
It's a big one that that Lynn has in his hand.
Speaker 5: That's a used car.
Speaker 2: There was a good one. Yeah, we got lucky on
that one. Won that in a uh.
Speaker 5: In a break yep, won that. I think it was
random drawing.
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it a whole lot well to work with, so we
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We're gonna see what happens. We'll keep you updated maybe
so We're not gonna look at it when they get
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We're gonna open it on air. Okay, I like it.
Speaker 5: I who have the dump button ready to go?
Speaker 7: If that bruck Bowers gets a nine, just tell it
the dumb button, have it ready to go? All right,
So we'll talk training camp here, and we'll get into
storylines and all of that, and we can go Saints
and then Tigers can go Tigers and Saints.
Speaker 5: It doesn't really matter. But you know, because obviously it's
that time of year.
Speaker 7: But you know, training camp, I just tell you personally,
for me, it was such a mental thing more than
it was physical. The physical part of training camp is
is actually kind of once you get into it.
Speaker 5: At least for me, it was fun.
Speaker 7: Like I actually kind of liked the physical part of
training camp and competing against you know, your brethren there
and it would really intentify everything. And I used to
love like a little goal line. It's like, you know,
your boy who's playing linebacker. Y'all talk trash in the
weight room all summer long. Who was stronger? Well, we're
about to find out. And I loved practicing against other teams,
Like we did that every year when I was in
San Diego, and I loved it because it's like I'm
getting game reps all day, every day for what three days.
Usually it's like what you know, you got two really
hard days and then you got ones kind of like
in shoulder pads or really sometimes not even in pads,
and sometimes guys like Sean Lee only know one speed
and like pads or no pads, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 5: But that was fun. I enjoyed that part of it.
Speaker 7: I don't know why I always allowed myself mentally to
just overthink training camp though, And I don't know if
you were like this too, Matt, But I don't know
if it was being away from my family. I don't
know if it was like staying in a hotel or
a dorm room for thirty days. Like I don't know
what portion of it, but I used to like freak
myself out about training camp. And I've told this story
on air, but like even so, like going into year
number five for me, like I was like, I think
I think I'm done, I think I'm vested. I played
well last year, but I don't think I want to
go to training camp. I like that those are the
kind of conversations you have and then you get there
and you're like, oh, these my boys, like we're good,
let's ride, let's roll whatever, and then you're six.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I want to go training camp.
I think I might want to tell like I say,
I got.
Speaker 2: The same point. It's the same mental conversation, and I don't.
Speaker 7: Like And I don't know why, because like once I
always got there, it's like, Okay, it is what it is,
just thirty days. But there is a mental aspect of
training camp that players go through every year. And training
camp is the most important time of the year to
me at least, And you could say it's spring and
fourth quarter programs and off season workouts, all of that
is important, but your bond, your chemistry, everything that you
do moving forward into the fall. I feel like either
get sharpened or dulled during training camp. And I've had
coaches that have been able to handle it really well
and some that did too much, some that didn't do enough.
Speaker 5: Like there is a sweet science, in my opinion, to how.
Speaker 7: You get your team ready in camp, and that's one
of the best, like team building and just relation, like
in life, right, The best relationships you have are with
the people you go through difficult things with and or
emotional things with.
Speaker 2: And that's true with everything. And that's kind of the
point of training camp. The point of it is to
be hard, like early on, and you should be hard, yeah,
in your football career, like when you're in high school
and college. The goal of off season and training camp
is to make people mentally tougher, like you're just trying
to tell like we're gonna weed out the week like
in the NFL. It's not that because nobody's weak at
that point, but you have to put your you have
to put your team through fires so they do like
build like build chemistry.
Speaker 7: You guys, see how far can I push these young
men are grown men, if you're in the NFL, how
much can I push them to where they're about to break?
Speaker 2: But they don't break it? And certainly it's a lot
different these days. Training camp used to be a lot harder.
And this isn't like a back in my day.
Speaker 5: Take this is because you can go farther, you know,
from us, like it was harder for them.
Speaker 2: What they did was how it used to be was
just like scientifically unhealthy, not good for the human.
Speaker 7: Every strength coach, our head coach that we talk with,
they're like, yeah, we don't have to be real big
dummies like we used to be. Like, we got GPS
and we can kind of track if a guy is slacking,
we know about his numbers. Even I was talking with
Kirby a couple of weeks ago and he's like, has
we don't do one tens anymore?
Speaker 5: Your big dummy? Why would we do this?
Speaker 7: He's like, we got GPS on these guys and we
got to get to a certain number. And when they
get to that number, I know they're working their ass off.
If they don't, then we make them work harder and
they get to that number.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh yeah, you just still run. I do too.
I mean, it's the point of pride.
Speaker 5: Is high school footall team still runs absolutely.
Speaker 2: If if I was a coach of a team, they
would run one tens.
Speaker 5: Well, when you're working out quarterbacks, make them run one tens.
Speaker 2: But you're right though, the mental what the pressure, the
anxiety that you get like leading every year? Me too.
In my history of playing football, I never went in
to a training camp with any comfortability of my job,
my spot. If I was going to be the first string,
second string, if I was going to have a job.
I never even in high school, maybe my senior year
of high school, any year in college, any year in
the NFL. So you know, I was a I was
my first year in the NFL. I was a seventh
rounder and there was a second round in front of
me from the dimension. Not to mention, Aaron Rodgers had
never started before. He was going to his first year.
And Brett Farve almost came back, if he would have
come back, because he almost came back, and we were
at the rookie symposium.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I remember sitting there together. We're in the same
breakout room, I think, yeah.
Speaker 2: And he was like, because he was in Green Bay,
like if he decides to sign back, or if the
Packers decided to sign him back, which they told him, no,
I'm out because I never got a chance.
Speaker 7: Even though you beat Brian Brown out really fascinating camp,
I had probably gotten that chance.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have had the chance absolutely, so like then
the next year and then the next year, and then
of course, you know, I was just always fighting for
a job, no matter what it was, and so I
never had like the mental I was never able to
be like Okay, I can go and training camp and
just not relax or coast by me, but like be
comfortable in my spot. It was a lot of it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like that because I I you know, I actually
felt more comfortable in the NFL then because like a
l she was like they were all a five star guy,
five star got always coming in.
Speaker 5: It's like I knew it's gonna have to fight.
Speaker 7: But to your point, like you had a completely different way,
right even going back to high school, because it's like.
Speaker 5: You weren't guaranteed anything, yep.
Speaker 2: And and of course that being a quarterback, you're not
like it's not the physical component of hitting banging heads
and getting like sore.
Speaker 7: So what was like, what was the most important thing
for you? Because for me, that was going to be
the most important thing, right it was it was going
to be being a mead heead being physical every single day.
I tried to put okay, every single day, put a
play on tape at pull back that when you block somebody,
the coaches rewind it and say ooh.
Speaker 5: Or like collision like that.
Speaker 7: That was it, Like I had to have I wanted
one of those a day where the coaches stopped it,
rewound it and like, hey, you want.
Speaker 2: To see what physicality is watch his big meathead over.
Speaker 5: You know, right, that was it for me.
Speaker 2: I think a quarterback, it's eliminate stupid plays. Eliminating because
especially the higher at the level you get, like when
you're in the NFL, like there's no like everybody makes
good throws. Everybody can throw deep outs and deep balls
and make NFL throw whatever people like to say, like
everybody can do that. Yeah, routes on air. There shouldn't
be incomplete passes in the NFL. Everyone's a pro. But
what sticks out, So like the good throws don't really
stick out. Great throws, of course they do, yeah, but
like the good throws, it's just like, yeah, all right,
nice play, good read whatever, never say anything about the throw.
But it was a stupid place. That was always like
to be like, eliminate dumb plays, eliminate turnovers, and eliminate
dumb mistakes and never make your coach tell you the
same thing twice. Yeah, that was a big thing. So
if like I got a coach at pointer got yelled out,
I was like, okay, write that down, don't do that again,
because if they have to tell you something twice. That
means they're spending too much time on a second or
third string guy, and you don't want that, right, So, like,
that's what I tell young players all the time. Hey,
give me some advice going into anything they did, whether
it's baseball, football, bass, whatever it is. Don't let your
boss or your coach tell you the same thing multiple times.
Speaker 7: That's a great point because when you would see it
happen and be like, well, he's not gonna be here tomorrow.
Speaker 5: I mean it was that crazy.
Speaker 2: You would see Yeah, you would see like uh, sixth
seventh round or astake, Yeah, we all saw it. That
offensive lineman that was a you know, did some did
some good things, did some nice things, but he was
an undrafted free agent or and you're a guy and
one too many false starts and.
Speaker 7: On hardcare getting beat inside twice in a row just happened.
And then also like the same thing, you start telling
people like Okay, well you know what I need to
do to make sure they know I'm you know, I'm
ready to go in any situation like never say no,
Can you hold it?
Speaker 5: Yep? Have you done it for nope? Can you deepsnap yep?
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 7: I mean you get to a point in your career.
And I always say this about every team in the NFL,
there's like five guys that are safe, truly safe. Doesn't
matter what they did in cam doesn't matter what they're safe.
They're safe for that entire year. Outside of court quarterbacks
a little different, there's five guys like everybody else in
this thing.
Speaker 2: There'll be shocked. There's a few more this day and
age with contracts over there. I like to guarantee. That's
the only time I felt real confident was when I
had my second contract, Like, no matter what happened, I
was gonna be there for in some form or fashion, right,
just from like a dollars and cents. Yeah, So I
think more that you're seeing more guaranteed contracts, right, Oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. So there was none.
Speaker 2: There was not no one when you were playing, and
the first one was four years ago.
Speaker 7: Kirk Cousins, Right, yeah, do everything and anything you can do.
Speaker 2: And that's how like.
Speaker 7: Me and Weddell became holders in San Diego. It's like we, hey,
we need to might hold because it was funny. None
of our quarterbacks could do it.
Speaker 2: They just weren't.
Speaker 7: But they didn't ask Philip to do it, but like
Billy couldn't do it, Billy Valdic, Charlie couldn't do it.
They just weren't good at it. They're like, hey, we
open competition.
Speaker 2: So you're saying it's not easy and it's a it
takes a pretty big skill set.
Speaker 5: Oh it's not easy. Yeah, I'll get I'll give you
your flowers.
Speaker 7: There there's my affirmation of the day.
Speaker 2: They asked, who wants to hold me and me because
I want player performance, chick.
Speaker 5: See, I wasn't thinking that way.
Speaker 7: I was just thinking, like, they want to add to
my tally of things this guy can do for.
Speaker 2: The backup seventh rounder rookie minimum. I was like, I'll
take any playf What.
Speaker 5: Did you get your player performance your rookie year? I
mean I could look it up.
Speaker 2: I mean nothing. I mean I came in a little bit.
Speaker 7: I thought, no, I thought, but the wholder counted. I
thought I didn't hold my rookie year. But I came in.
Okay the year you held, Like, that's a play Yeah
I had good offenses. Yeah, so that's extra points and
field goals. Yeah it was a decent amount. Yeah, yeah
it was awesome. I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 2: To look it up. You can look it up. There's
always a way.
Speaker 5: Chat gp T all right when we come back. You
love chating, you and Peter Burns.
Speaker 2: Somebody said in the chat yesterday, Matt's just ninety percent
chat GPT at this point.
Speaker 5: Ninety might be low balling.
Speaker 2: Then I didn't use it once. I didn't even pull
it up today. Did we?
Speaker 5: Did we tell that story on air about New Heizel
getting mad.
Speaker 2: Peter Burns?
Speaker 7: I thought we did? Oh no, if I did? Sorry,
mad Well? How peer Birds was using chat GBT at dinner? Yes,
it was like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's like that.
Speaker 5: That was his conversation.
Speaker 2: I think they did it a fight tournament too, didn't they?
Who the next day?
Speaker 7: The next the next day at the ESPN dinner they
did seeah, we're sitting there is me Flynn during Dusty
de Vorceek, I mean other people on some of players.
And so Peter Burns is like in chat GBT, he's
trying to explain to new like New Heiseel how it
works and coaches old school like he's like, what you
can do that you can ask you a question? And
so he asked it like, who was the best football
player sitting at the table. So he puts all four
of our names, and who was the most impactful impactful
player for their respective college?
Speaker 5: Yes at the time or something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it went me during Flynn Dusty and then
so like Dusty was like, you know, kind of wait,
wait a minute.
Speaker 5: And then new Heizel realizes, like what is happening?
Speaker 7: And he got so mad that Peter Burns just didn't
include him as a former player. He goes, I guess
I didn't win a bleeping Rose Bowl.
Speaker 2: He's like, I don't get it.
Speaker 7: I don't get into the conversation a starting quarterback for
U C l A.
Speaker 5: That hurt.
Speaker 2: That hurt coach.
Speaker 7: But he's got to understand one PB only knows sec.
He doesn't allow his mind to think anything else. And
sometimes when you have success, like coach, did you think
of him as coach? New heigs, I still doe con coach,
and so like sometimes you just remind me now that
he played, Hey, UCLA won a Rose Bowl, Like, he
played a year for the Chargers, he played in the USFL.
Like but again, like Kirby Smart was like all SEC,
I don't think Kirby Smart, Georgia dB.
Speaker 2: I think Kirby Smart, Dennis Allen head Hunter.
Speaker 5: Yeah, who would have thought absolutely, Like I don't even think.
Speaker 7: Dan Campbell, like I think coach Dan Campbell. Now, so Rick,
we know you want a Rose Bowl. We love you.
We had to put you in the conversation and you
probably would have finished somewhere in the middle, not the
most impactful last Yeah. Still, you know the top spot
was reserved, so.
Speaker 2: I don't know about doing it too.
Speaker 7: He he actually did his the end of his career.
He was the all time leading touchdown I think, yeah,
receptions because he didn't have obviously rushing totals.
Speaker 2: But I don't believe you.
Speaker 5: Jim, I think, but who broke it? Oh?
Speaker 7: Uh, DeVante Smith? He had the record ntild Davante Smith
broke it.
Speaker 2: I heard of him.
Speaker 7: Yep, Doran's pretty good. But he was wearing number twenty
eight a receiver that's questionable.
Speaker 2: Are you serious? Twenty eight? That's disgusting. Yeah, that is
absolutely hideous.
Speaker 7: All right, when we come back, let's get into some
storylines there for LSU's training camp again.
Speaker 5: We'll get to the Saints as well, and we'll do
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Speaker 5: One lot, You dude, love this?
Speaker 2: I mean, how can you listen to this and not
just like move your body a little bit, very easy the.
Speaker 7: Way I'm doing it right now, Right now, I'm watching you.
Speaker 6: No, I'm doing a little head bob.
Speaker 3: You guys are I'm doing a little head bob.
Speaker 7: We talk about it some time. Give me the song
and get you on the dance floor. No matter how
many deleted we don't know yours.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter how many beers.
Speaker 2: Deep you are.
Speaker 5: You had a wedding, This song comes home?
Speaker 2: Are we already talking? Shout that?
Speaker 6: Yeah? He said shout And I think is just one answer.
Speaker 7: No, no, hold on, that's I think. I think they
have a beer's deep song.
Speaker 2: And I think, like you are misremembering because you poo
pooed on me and I said it. Then after the
show you're like, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 6: I don't think I say that. I think Taylor was
agreeing with you.
Speaker 5: But I don't think.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's the best song. I'm saying at
a wedding, it gets played at everyone, It gets the wedding.
You just changed the rules to it. Anytime you said, Adam,
what when we talked about him.
Speaker 7: I said, I said no, I said, but it doesn't matter,
like you could just get there and you're like old
had a beer yet I gotta get out there, shouts
not it.
Speaker 6: That's the only song that's going to get you out
on the dance woe.
Speaker 2: We said the number one was number one? He just
said number one.
Speaker 6: That's the show.
Speaker 2: It was yours.
Speaker 6: I don't even remember, but it was a.
Speaker 5: Shout, Cassie, you're a dancer. What's the song for you?
I mean any line dance songs?
Speaker 6: Yes, Bro, don't play copper Head Road around me?
Speaker 2: Get what give me?
Speaker 5: Like a good copper Head Road is.
Speaker 2: Getting out there? Which one?
Speaker 6: Okay, I don't know what that is. I don't know
that like how I goes, but copper Head Road is
my number one favorite. That or Footloose.
Speaker 2: I wish I could do footloose, Justine.
Speaker 6: You can't do footloose.
Speaker 5: I mean I can't, but it's not good. Yeah, you
know what I mean. I feel like it's disrespectful. Do
you what to do out there?
Speaker 2: Jake, you are the guy that probably starts the Cupid shuffle.
Speaker 5: No, I'll get in there. I'll get in there, but
I'm not starting it.
Speaker 6: I like the wobble.
Speaker 2: But I don't think I've been in a while.
Speaker 7: You do.
Speaker 6: I've been to a wedding.
Speaker 5: Out and Tyler, Oh okay, yeah, y'all are one to talk.
Speaker 2: No, I love it.
Speaker 5: I just got excited that you did.
Speaker 2: Don't get sensitive, you all use gas.
Speaker 5: I got excited that you went redneck.
Speaker 2: What do people say besides y'all?
Speaker 6: I think people say, you guys, you guys.
Speaker 5: You got in California?
Speaker 2: You guys? Is it you guys? I know it's like
North It's like you guys.
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I say y'all. I feel weird if I
say anything.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 2: I know that I know we all say y'all, but
like outside of it, I think they say geographical terrory. Guys.
Is it you guys? Everybody?
Speaker 3: You are you all?
Speaker 6: Because isn't y'all?
Speaker 3: You all?
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't want to live in a
place I don't really want.
Speaker 2: I think it's stupid. If you don't say it, you're dumb.
I agree. So what's your song? Uh? Yeah, I don't understand.
Speaker 7: Like ste carry Out by Justin Timberlakembland.
Speaker 6: Mine was yeah, but it was. Yeah, it was because
that one that won't give me out real quick.
Speaker 2: I just don't get it. I don't get y'all.
Speaker 5: We didn't hate it's a certain point in the wedding song.
Speaker 2: Okay, so all these.
Speaker 6: Songs, but it's also just that's not the first thing
that would have popped into my mind when you big
of weddings, right.
Speaker 2: And I can I can I say this.
Speaker 6: This is my hot take for the day.
Speaker 2: All the songs y'all listed are not getting played at
one hundred percent of wedding orcepthing is getting played at
every single wedding.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's getting played at every single wedding by usher.
Speaker 2: Yet play it for me. I don't even know. Yes
you do, I probably know it. Just that that are
you talking about?
Speaker 5: Get out of here.
Speaker 2: That's not playing. That's not getting played every single Nope,
it's not.
Speaker 6: I've never been to a wedding that didn't play this
song with you.
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Speaker 7: I will say this when we're talking LSU storylines as
far as training camp, this is the first time in
a long time, maybe ever, that if you were like, hey,
predict the offensive line left to right, starting at left tackle,
I'd be like, we say, I got to check in
the savings, and I just wouldn't how to explain it
because I think there's multiple people that could play in
multiple spots. And you've got some transfers that have come
in from Virginia Tech, from Northwestern other places that you
assume are going to have starting spots, but we don't know,
like that's not been announced. So there's some intrigued, there's
some excitement, there's some worry. Right, you can't have sunshine
pumping when it comes to not knowing who left or
right is going to be right now? And Tyree Adams
is somebody I'm excited to see. Is dj Chester going
to stay at Center's he gonna move to guard? Brayln
Moore gonna take over at center? Is he going to
move to guard? Is Wes and Davis going to be
your right tackle? Or is it going to be Josh
Thompson coming over as a transfer from Northwestern. I'll throw
it to you as a quarterback question if you're Garrett
nuss Meyer, right, and maybe you don't have the five
in front of you solidified right now, because it's going
to be a competition. There's going to be battles in
training camp to see who wins out.
Speaker 5: Is it going to be the people that have been here?
Speaker 7: Is it going to be the people that you brought in,
you know for that purpose, because like these are two
very highly touted guys, very wanted guys in the transfer
portal that you brought in, like as a quarterback, and
maybe you don't know who your five is going to be?
Would you worry about that? Would you be excited for
the competition? But say, like center, you got like I
feel like you got to know you want to know
at least day one a training camp, like.
Speaker 2: Probably the quarterbacks like state standpoint going into practice, like
you want to have a solidified center just from the
continuity of taking a snap, snap count, recognition, and the communication.
Like most of the communication that happens from a protection
or like a mic adjustment standpoint, it is between the
quarterback and the center. So that is one of the
ultimate from a quarterback's peace of mind standpoint going into practice,
that's the best. There's nothing worse for a quarterback at
whatever age. I remember being the seventh grade and fearing
taking the snap because like, nothing pisses a coach off
more than fumbled snaps. They pause practice, they delay everything.
It looks sloppy, the team looks terrible. And when you
have a center QB exchanged, that is like you have
to think about it's awful. Yeah. I used to have
centers that some of them were just terrible at snapping.
They were snapping inconsistently or there they had like you know,
sweaty booties. Yeah, and it was uncomfortable.
Speaker 5: Body type too.
Speaker 2: You didn't want the you didn't.
Speaker 7: Like because okay, I'll give you example our centers while
you know that when we were in school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brett Helms who was.
Speaker 5: It's basically my size, but just way to eighty.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And then you had Ryan Miller who was Paul Bunyan. Yeah,
and Ryan was like the number one, That's what I'm saying.
He was tall for a center. A lot of times
you don't want that height, are you?
Speaker 2: Like? The height is okay, it's the body composition, right.
Speaker 5: He didn't have a lot of fat, Just say.
Speaker 2: Fat asses were not the best. Like the wider it was,
the bigger, it was, the harder it was to find
the center. I was gonna ask you. It was harder
to find the center, and it's harder for them to
find the center and their snap and it is.
Speaker 5: So he being a little underweight was a good thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so the height didn't matter. Miller was great.
They were.
Speaker 7: They were both very You don't see tall centers, not
only like the only one I can think of, really, Max.
Speaker 2: Hunger was tall center, but you don't see it outside of.
Speaker 5: The I play with Nick Hardwick and Dan Copen were
like six to one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some centers that get really low too. It
was really like you see some quarterbacks every now and then.
It has a like squat way way down That stinks too.
But anyway, just from like a kind of like there's
nothing worse when you have to go to line of
scrimmage and you're saying a snapcout, you're like Green eighteen,
and you're not thinking about the defense is doing. You're
thinking about get the snap, get the snap, don't fumble,
don't fumble, don't fumble.
Speaker 7: That's a feel a little bit different now in college
football because everything's out of gun.
Speaker 5: But actually I say it's different. I get that is
a difference.
Speaker 7: You love the clap, but I guess the nerves don't
go away because he could throw a knuckleball back there
on the ground.
Speaker 5: Yeah he could, but just a different set of message.
Speaker 7: Right are you say, like I've got time to fix
his mess up back there if he.
Speaker 2: Could like it.
Speaker 7: It doesn't have to be perfect. We're under center. If
it's not perfect, then the ball's on the ground.
Speaker 2: And yeah, then I guess, like from a pressure standpoint,
it's like, I mean, if it is this a little
selfish way to think of it. If it is about snap,
it's pretty obviously not my fault.
Speaker 7: It's so you so you no, you're not which I
appreciate that about.
Speaker 2: You, but it does happen. But under the under center
thing was awful, awful because then the center starts thinking
about it, yeah, and he's like he like snaps it
and like make sure that makes sure like you're getting it,
and then everybody else is moving except for you and him,
and then you're late. Now you get stepped on, like
justin fields yesterday. Yep, that's located, Joe, Yep.
Speaker 7: I hate when y'all used to get your footsteps one
by the center. You're trying to hand me the ball
and instead of just eating it, you're like still extending it.
Speaker 5: And so I'm like, do I go up there and
take it?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 7: Because it's never the quarterback's fault, then it's my fault
because I didn't go as he was tripping to the
ground and grab the ball.
Speaker 2: It was always fun. But ye know, answer your question.
If I'm Garret, I'm not really thinking about the tackle
guard competition. You think, like you said, the center is
like the biggest point. If I can get solidify that,
my job's easy.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a part of it.
Speaker 7: Like right now, So if Tyree Adams is your left
tackle is going to be Paul Mubinga at left guard.
Speaker 2: I was going to be DJ Chester.
Speaker 7: If Paul Mbinga is your left guard, is Brayler mooregan
to take over at center and maybe movinga moves to
right guard?
Speaker 5: You know what happens with Weson Davis at right tackle?
Speaker 7: Is it him as a former five star red shirt
freshman or is it Josh Thompson as a senior transfer.
Speaker 2: If you want the job, if you want to be
on the start in five they have to go in
the mindset what you and I just talked about. Don't
let your coach tell you the same thing twice because
they're offensive lineman. It's a thankless job and you only
get noticed when you screw up. Yeah, you give up
a sack, you fall, start, you hold.
Speaker 7: Never talked about it last year, so don't get noticed
in training camp.
Speaker 2: You're doing pretty good.
Speaker 7: Yeah, name me another job in sports, all sports. Think
of any sport you can think of where if I
have forty reps at something, forty pass attempts and we
see that in cost football, we got forty of them
on thirty eight of those reps, I beat you thirty
eight of them.
Speaker 5: You beat me on two of them.
Speaker 7: So I'm thirty eight to forty, you're two for forty,
You're SEC Player of the week, and I'm getting replaced,
no doubt. Name another position in sports that you have
to be that good.
Speaker 5: It's the one goalie.
Speaker 7: I mean, if they shoot, if they kick, if they
shoot it forty times and they only score twice, we're
talking about you, like we talked about Tim Howard against Belgium.
Speaker 5: It's the only one in sports.
Speaker 2: Announcers have to go out of their way to talk
good about offensive line. Yeah, because like you know, they
have to teach the audience that this guy's playing really
good or this was a good blot. The only time
it ever gets noticed, like just casually, is like on
a screen when offensive lineman's like run as fast as
you can down the field. They don't even have to
make a blot there. It's okay, look how fast he is.
Good for him? So well this job.
Speaker 7: Certainly next week whenever LSU does start training camp, I
believe Wednesday is going to be the first day. It's
going to be the first thing that I hustle. Who
is the first five out there? Is DJ Chester at
center because he was surrounded by four guys that got drafted.
Speaker 2: But there was.
Speaker 7: Times there was a lot of pre snap penalties. There
was some Aaron snaps.
Speaker 2: It's not the first five that's going to intrigue me,
because this is, you know, the paths are just coming on.
I know we had spring, but like we'll really just going.
Speaker 5: Off a reporder of it to see what where at
their initial minds.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, though, if you want to make
a run and do the things you want to do,
you better have at least eight yea better at least,
I agree.
Speaker 7: But the first five I say that just because I
want to see where their mindset is, because I get
it and we could talk about it. You can't half
step into this front seven against Clemson.
Speaker 5: So all right, we'll take a break. More OTB when we.
Speaker 2: Come back.
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Speaker 3: You're listening to Off the Bench, Okay, I.
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Speaker 7: The Saints got a big free agent visiting right now
during training camps. It is not a safety tight end,
no offense.
Speaker 6: I'm excited about that.
Speaker 7: It was a part of the Russell Wilson trade from
Denver to see come.
Speaker 5: On, man, it's nofan you know who that is.
Speaker 7: So he got released by Seattle a couple of days
ago and he has been all over the place. A
lot of teams interested in his services. I had five
hundred yards receiving just last year. Really good player in college.
Has certainly had some great moments in the NFL. The
Saints right now tight end room is deep, but it's injured.
A Taysom Hill, Foster Morow both in the pup list,
So no offense. Somebody that certainly could help the Saints
early in the season, and he signed Jwan Johnson to
a big deal in the off season, certainly more than
we thought he was going to get.
Speaker 5: So I understand this one.
Speaker 7: Even though you are again you have a deep tight
end room right now, you've got a lot of injuries
there and so you can't really count right now on
what that's going to look like. So you bring in
a guy like Noah Fan He's been to Cincinnati some
other places, but he is somebody that is only twenty
seven years old, so still young player. Last year he
had five hundred yards ten point four yards per catch,
only had one score, which is a little concerning considering
his body type and playing the tight end position. But
every year in his career has had at least over
four hundred yards receiving, and he is somebody that I
think right now could solidify your tied end room while
you're waiting on some guys to get healthy. Like I
don't taste some Hill had an a cl like, I
don't know what that looks like. Foster's on the pup
list as well as.
Speaker 2: We mentioned, so I don't know.
Speaker 7: No offense of the Saints don't know if it be
the totality of the season, but it feels like if
you can get him on.
Speaker 2: A Saints or at a point right now, like if
you can get a productive veteran at any position, you
bring him in right when you're thirty two.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Freemen even doesn't matter, no offense, not gonna
hurt or.
Speaker 2: Like my initial reaction to this was just kind of jokingly,
like why we got Foster, Like, just let him play,
just let him cook all season. But no is a
productive player and has been in the NFL, and you know,
he's one of these guys that could potentially, you know,
take a next step in production if put into.
Speaker 7: The situation like he's had in his career five sixty two,
six seventy three, six seventy for eighty six four to fourteen,
five hundred.
Speaker 5: So he's been productive, right, I.
Speaker 7: Mean, ye, Kellen Moore played nineties, played ninety two games
and started eighty two games.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. Look at Kellen Moore's kind of history and background.
I know he was with Mike McCarthy for a time
in Dallas, and Mike McCarthy utilizes a tight end a lot,
so you have to believe that Kellen Moore. Goal is
to utilize some tight ends and get them to be
a big piece of the puzzle when it comes to
what they want to do offensively from an ex as
a nose standpoint, So bring in a guy like this,
I mean it makes all the sense in the world.
Sign him, like, sign every free agent you can at
every that has proven to be productive. And like you said,
he's what twenty eight, twenty eight years old, twenty seven
twenty seven years old? Absolutely, so he's played seven years old. Yeah,
Like there's no not one Saints fan sitting out here
that's going to be like going to be judging a
free agent signing right now, and any physician.
Speaker 5: And if my memory serves me right.
Speaker 7: The NFC South the rosters were ranked Tampa Bay at twelve,
at Lanta at twenty six, Carolina at thirty, and Saints
at thirty two. So if you can add a player
in this division, yeah, kid, you got the thirty second
ranked roster.
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 5: I think you go ahead and do it.
Speaker 2: But I'm looking at his salary, like what the salary
could be, and I'm with Seattle. He earned a two year,
twenty one million dollar extension in twenty twenty four with
salaries averaging around ten and a half per season, eleven
and a half guaranteed at signing. So he got that
eleven and a half in Seattle. But now you got
to think after being released, like his market's got to be,
it's gonna have animum, it's a veteran minimum. Maybe maybe
incentivize him up to you know, get him playtime or
incentives up to you know, one and a half two
million dollars, whatever it ends up being. But yeah, you
can get him good price, good player. I'm trying to
look right, just if you wanted to sign to show
him that that new uniform drop.
Speaker 6: My take on no offense and just signing people in
general is the same as a draft. Like literally anything
you can get is gonna help. I didn't care if
it was a quarterback. I didn't care if it was
Kelvin Banks junior, like all the Saints need everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, as long as like you like structure
the financials corre like yes on anybody, Yeah, all right,
let's let's get up to thirty one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean all jokes side like us at thirty one.
Speaker 7: I mean I'm looking at the dev chart, right, now
and you have Juwan Johnson again, but Foster where he's at, Taysom,
where he's at your draft a tight end out of UCLA.
Speaker 2: In the seventh round.
Speaker 7: You can't go into the season with two healthy tight
ends and one being a seventh round pick.
Speaker 5: Just can't do it.
Speaker 7: Not in a Kellen often like Kellen wants to play
twelve personnel, Like that's what I want.
Speaker 5: To do when to come back, I'm gonna go back.
Speaker 7: I want to see the percentage of twelve personnel he's played,
certainly last year in Philly, because that's a big and
Lantro will tell you what twelve personel is when we
come back here on O TV.
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Speaker 5: Twelve personnel.
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Speaker 7: Callen loves a good twelve personnel. You know it's hard
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I do need two of them.
Speaker 5: You gotta have two dogs. You have to have two dogs.
Speaker 7: So that's why it makes a lot of sense to
me for them to sign no offense right now, you.
Speaker 5: Know, And I'm looking at it. He actually, like on
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Speaker 7: He great a little bit early early in the season,
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Speaker 5: I like that.
Speaker 2: Mm hm, he's peaking, peaking at the right time, then
he got cut.
Speaker 5: I don't really know what the plan is there in
Seattle either though.
Speaker 2: Yeah I love my guy John Snyder too.
Speaker 7: Yeah I love I mean, man, I only met him
because of you, like when I went on the free
agent visit. But every time I seem like you remember
is that? Yeah, we talk about it. He's a good
dude and.
Speaker 2: He he made a lot of really good moves in Seattle.
So I gotta feel like there's a plan there, but
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 7: So no offense visiting the Saints here during training camp. Again,
the Saints two of their top three tight ends are
on the shelf right now, on the pup list. And
so you've got a player, a veteran player that's you know,
started eighty something games in the NFL. If you can
sign him, you add to what people are calling the
worst roster in the NFL.
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