Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w Bzy Boston's
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Speaker 2: All right, we're getting to back to a more serious topic. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the Raffie Devers being traded to the San Francisco Giants
Speaker 2: from for baseball fans is a serious topic, but nothing
Speaker 2: is as important what is going on in the Middle
Speaker 2: East tonight. Israel and Iran are at war. We're delighted
Speaker 2: to be joined again by the Israeli Console General to
Speaker 2: New England, Benny Scharone, mister Consul General, welcome back to
Speaker 2: Night's side. I'm sure you know a lot more about
Speaker 2: what's going on in in the Middle East tonight than
Speaker 2: any of us. What is the latest at this point?
Speaker 2: Obviously it's getting close to dawn over there. It's about
Speaker 2: a seven hour time difference, if I'm not mistaken. Good evening, sir,
Speaker 2: How are you tonight?
Speaker 3: Good evening? Then good evening to the old It's always
Speaker 3: a pleasure to be at night Side, and I'm always
Speaker 3: appreciative of the opportunity to have that time to chat
Speaker 3: with you and with the audience. So I thank you
Speaker 3: for the opportunity. Thank you. So Israeli is a war,
Speaker 3: another war with military operation with Iran over the last
Speaker 3: couple of days. And this is this is extremely important
Speaker 3: because Israel is working in order to remove a double
Speaker 3: existential frat, to remove the nuclear thrat and to remove
Speaker 3: the bablistic missile thrat that Iran imposts on Israel. And
Speaker 3: we have been doing that and we are successful. I
Speaker 3: think I can tell you this is quite clear that
Speaker 3: they are losing. Iran is not winning this war because
Speaker 3: we had significant military gains over the last couple of days.
Speaker 3: We had the ability to take off serious problematic enrichment
Speaker 3: nuclear Richmond's facilities and research and development nuclear facilities in Iran.
Speaker 3: We had the success of taking out some of the
Speaker 3: nuclear program leadership in Iran and also some of the
Speaker 3: military leadership of Iran. And this is important because it
Speaker 3: allows a good opportunity not just for Israel, but for
Speaker 3: the greater Middle East.
Speaker 2: So you've been successful, but Iran has decided to change
Speaker 2: their tactics and hit your population centers with deadly fire.
Speaker 2: That is very different from what Iran has done in
Speaker 2: previous attacks. Am I am I correct on that.
Speaker 3: Oh, You're absolutely correct. You know, as we speak, I
Speaker 3: have you know, our family is back at home. My
Speaker 3: mother is now in a shelter, my mother in law,
Speaker 3: my brother, my sister in law, and I'm not unique.
Speaker 3: You know, most of the is raerely spending most of
Speaker 3: their nights in shelters over the last couple of days
Speaker 3: because Iran decided that they are want to deliberately attack
Speaker 3: Israeli civilian israel civilian centers, and we have witnessing, you know,
Speaker 3: we saw them doing that over the last couple of days.
Speaker 3: They are doing that mainly through the nights, spending barrage
Speaker 3: of ballistic missiles with huge payloads, with extremely heavy loaded
Speaker 3: with explosives, and that creates a lot of damage. But
Speaker 3: I want to be one hundred percent clear, they are
Speaker 3: deliberately deliberately targeting civilian population. I'm saying that because when
Speaker 3: we are working and fighting in Iran, which we have
Speaker 3: been doing over the last couple of years, it is
Speaker 3: very clear the Iranian population is not, I repeat, is
Speaker 3: not our target. We are working in order to remove
Speaker 3: the excidential threat to Israel from your own and we
Speaker 3: are targeting the nuclear threat and the ballistic missile shot.
Speaker 2: In the position of your government, how long do you
Speaker 2: feel or does your government feel this exchange daily nightly
Speaker 2: exchange of missiles can continue.
Speaker 3: So honestly, then I don't know. I don't know to
Speaker 3: say how long it will take, but I can tell
Speaker 3: you that we are determined to take advantage of that
Speaker 3: opportunity and make sure that we are not ending up
Speaker 3: that round of escalation with Iran. While they can maintain
Speaker 3: the nuclear thread, the nuclear capability, this is just not
Speaker 3: going to happen. Iran must never have nuclear weapons, Huran
Speaker 3: can't never have ran hum enrichment capabilities. And this is
Speaker 3: a little opportunity to make sure that this is the case.
Speaker 3: You know, I've been a diplomat for twenty twenty one
Speaker 3: years and I've been dealing with Irun related issues on
Speaker 3: and off for the vast majority of my career. Iran
Speaker 3: has a track record of twenty thirty years of delaying tactics,
Speaker 3: engaging in negotiations, diplomating negotiations mainly in order to buy
Speaker 3: some more time, while at the same time continue to
Speaker 3: develop and promote its military preparedness. It's you building, it's
Speaker 3: it's nuclear facilities, nuclear uranium enrichment. Making progress in the
Speaker 3: processes needs that are pretty much needed in order to
Speaker 3: take the enriched uranium and turn this into a weapon.
Speaker 3: So Iran have been doing that for twenty thirty years now,
Speaker 3: and it came to a point that you know, we
Speaker 3: just cannot see the decide seeing how they're advancing those capabilities.
Speaker 3: So we all determined to do whatever it takes in
Speaker 3: order to move ahead and make sure that we are
Speaker 3: completely removing that double existential fat from the knack of
Speaker 3: the state of Israel.
Speaker 2: Just a couple more questions, and one is this, This
Speaker 2: is not the first time that Israel and Iran have
Speaker 2: exchanged fire. Iran did this a year ago. They they
Speaker 2: all of a sudden attacked Israel fire the first shots.
Speaker 2: Here is the weaponry that Iran is using today and
Speaker 2: the ordinance that they're using today, is it similar to
Speaker 2: what they used a year ago? Or have they improved
Speaker 2: either their delivery system or the the lethality the amount
Speaker 2: of power that the rockets that are falling on Israel
Speaker 2: this week from a little over a year ago, a
Speaker 2: little less than a year ago.
Speaker 3: That is true. So we see it is true that
Speaker 3: we had more than once already Iranian attacks coming from Iran,
Speaker 3: you know, with ballistic misles, and that Israel. What we're
Speaker 3: witnessing now is more missiles coming at single point in time,
Speaker 3: and we are seeing much stronger missiles at least some
Speaker 3: of them, comparing to what we've seen in previous rounds
Speaker 3: of escalation. And this is another demonstration of how advanced
Speaker 3: is the Iranian ballistic missile arsenal and the ballistic missile program.
Speaker 3: Now we have very good, very old defense system, which
Speaker 3: you know, if they are in a barrage, they are
Speaker 3: fifty or one hundred ballistic missiles and we end up
Speaker 3: with only three or four of them penetrating and hitting Israel.
Speaker 3: This is, this is, this is remarkable, right, but the
Speaker 3: damage created that even one of them is extremely lethal
Speaker 3: and problematic. But we can only imagine what have been
Speaker 3: the situation without Israel's areal defense system. You just can
Speaker 3: you know, imagine the magnitude of the damage created when
Speaker 3: ten twenty fifty ballistic missiles with massive payloads are landing
Speaker 3: in the small states in Israel. This is, this is
Speaker 3: not a threat that we can allow ourselves to live with.
Speaker 2: Last last question, and that is that I know that
Speaker 2: Prime Minister Netanyahu was interviewed on ABC News tonight Jonathan Carl,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you had a chance to watch
Speaker 2: that interview. But in view of the change in strategy
Speaker 2: that Iran has now employed, whereby they're willing to strike
Speaker 2: densely dense pocket relation centers, not military targets, which which
Speaker 2: Iran has has not done in the past, does that
Speaker 2: change the strategy of Israel? Does this put leadership in
Speaker 2: Iran perhaps in the crosshairs? I know that the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister was asked that question tonight, and I don't think
Speaker 2: that you can be probably any more specific, but I
Speaker 2: assume that if that the calculus of how Israel is
Speaker 2: going to respond has to somehow change once civilian populations
Speaker 2: dense civilian populations are being hit outside of major cities.
Speaker 3: So I said the following, then, you know, we obviously
Speaker 3: are well prepared for this military confrontation, and we've been
Speaker 3: working for years and preparing the capability. Is that the
Speaker 3: Iranian witness since last Thursday. This is not just you know,
Speaker 3: something that we came up with the very last movement,
Speaker 3: and this is well, you know, generations of Israeli leadership.
Speaker 3: I've thought a lot about the objectives and the aims
Speaker 3: and the means of this operation, and we will continue
Speaker 3: to do that. We will continue to pursue our objectives. And
Speaker 3: again it goes back to eliminating that double existential threat
Speaker 3: from from Israel. I always say also that the Iranian
Speaker 3: people are not our enemies. We are not working in
Speaker 3: order to fight against the Iranian people by all means. Know,
Speaker 3: our problem is with Iran's leadership and Iran's nuclear and
Speaker 3: ballistic missals ambitions, and the fact that they are building
Speaker 3: capabilities which aims at destroying the state of Israel. And
Speaker 3: you don't have to take my word and that because
Speaker 3: they have been actively and openly advocating for the destruction
Speaker 3: of Israel.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, there's no question about that.
Speaker 3: We we can't. We just can't allow the world's most
Speaker 3: problematic regime get hold of the world's most deadly weapons.
Speaker 3: This is this is that can't happen.
Speaker 2: I appreciate your your honesty and uh and of course
Speaker 2: you have I think the full support of my night
Speaker 2: side audience. They understand what is at stake here. I
Speaker 2: know Israel will UH continue this fight however long it takes.
Speaker 2: But is there a sense as to how quickly this
Speaker 2: might be resolved or is this something that you think
Speaker 2: could go on for weeks or longer.
Speaker 3: I think when currently we are all focused on finding
Speaker 3: this military campaign and making sure that we are continue
Speaker 3: to do that. We are continuing doing whatever needs to
Speaker 3: be done in order to remove that double existential shred.
Speaker 3: This is the focus of the Israeli leadership. This is
Speaker 3: the focus of the Israeli military campaign, and we are
Speaker 3: determined to do that, and we will keep on doing that.
Speaker 3: And i'm i'm I'm optimistic. If to judge on what
Speaker 3: we've been witnessing, I can tell you they are not
Speaker 3: winning this campaign.
Speaker 2: Ron is not winning this campaign.
Speaker 3: I I.
Speaker 2: Your words to God's ears, mister, mister Godsil General Benny,
Speaker 2: Benny Shy, thank you so much for your time tonight,
Speaker 2: and know that our thoughts impressed are with you and
Speaker 2: the entire population of Israel.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Dan, thank you night side and the audience.
Speaker 3: And I'd like to wish you and America, our dear
Speaker 3: friends here in America, quiet and safe night.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much, and may your nights
Speaker 2: be and your people's nights become quieter and safer in
Speaker 2: the not too distant future. Thanks again, Benny, I appreciate
Speaker 2: your time tonight. We'll talk again. Take quick break here
Speaker 2: when I come back. I want to talk about a
Speaker 2: couple of incidents this weekend which talk about hated America
Speaker 2: and how there must be there must be a denouncement
Speaker 2: of these sorts of activities across the political spectrum. Talking
Speaker 2: about a simple brick being thrown through the window of
Speaker 2: a Jewish store, a grocery store in Brookline, and talking
Speaker 2: about the actions of a madman in Minnesota killing political
Speaker 2: leaders and hunting down leaders. This and I want to
Speaker 2: hear I want to hear condemnation across the board. I'll
Speaker 2: explain what I mean right after the break.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Probably got a few minutes to the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2: Hand I just want to talk about two unrelated, but
Speaker 2: I think related events. Seemingly unrelated, but I think related events.
Speaker 2: There was a ugly event that occurred on Harvard Street
Speaker 2: and Brookline over the weekend when some hate manger decided
Speaker 2: to throw a brick through the window of a grocery
Speaker 2: store called the Butchery. It's a kosher store on at
Speaker 2: four to twenty eight Harvard Street. This brick, which had
Speaker 2: a writing on it that said free Palestine, was thrown
Speaker 2: through the market early morning, as I understand it, and
Speaker 2: I saw the story of the news yesterday, and I
Speaker 2: thought to myself, this is Brookline, Massachusetts, Okay, when this
Speaker 2: is happening. And so this is some individual who had
Speaker 2: the audacity to basically walk down Harvard Street and throw
Speaker 2: a brick through the window of a Jewish owned grocery
Speaker 2: store which serves the community in Brookline, When at the
Speaker 2: same time this weekend, we had some madman in Minnesota
Speaker 2: decide that he would take it upon himself to dress
Speaker 2: in a police uniform and attempt to kill two political
Speaker 2: leaders in that state and their spouses. He was able
Speaker 2: to take the life of a woman or state representative
Speaker 2: and her husband, and he wound a state senator and
Speaker 2: his wife. He's been captured, thankfully, but he had a
Speaker 2: list of like forty five people who were on maybe
Speaker 2: what was described as a hit list. And what is
Speaker 2: happening now when you see this spate of political actions.
Speaker 2: Assassinations of the young couple who worked at the Jewish
Speaker 2: Embassy in Washington, d C. Cut down literally after they
Speaker 2: walked out of an event at the Jewish Museum in
Speaker 2: downtown Washington, DC. When you go back and you think
Speaker 2: about the crazed individual who set the home of the
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania governor on fire while his family. He and his
Speaker 2: family slept in an upstairs upstairs bedrooms. And thank God
Speaker 2: that that fire was detected and put out, or we
Speaker 2: would have had the governors, the official residents of the governor,
Speaker 2: they call it a governor's mansion, look like a very
Speaker 2: nice house in Pennsylvania and Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. So you have
Speaker 2: all of these incidents, not to mention the older group
Speaker 2: of Jewish people in Boulder, Colorado, a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 2: who some madman decided that he would attack them with
Speaker 2: Molotov cocktails. So what I want to see if I
Speaker 2: can get some of you tonight to join me. Oftentimes,
Speaker 2: what happens is when a Democratic politician is set upon
Speaker 2: the criticism of this attack, whether it's on States Congresswoman
Speaker 2: Gabby Giffords whose career was shot cut short. She was
Speaker 2: shot in Arizona several years ago, but now it's getting
Speaker 2: close to fifteen years ago, if I'm not mistaken. You
Speaker 2: have the group of people members of the Republican softball
Speaker 2: team who were attacked by a guy in Washington, DC
Speaker 2: in a softball team practice. Steve Scalise, who was the
Speaker 2: number three person actually I think might actually be the
Speaker 2: number two persons in the house now suffered some life
Speaker 2: threatening wounds. What happens is there tends to be outrage
Speaker 2: on the side of the political spectrum that is attacked understandably,
Speaker 2: but a muted criticism or a muted comments from the
Speaker 2: other side, and it goes both ways. It goes both ways.
Speaker 2: When President when President Trump suffered a near death in Butler, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: initially there were some Democrats who kind of laughed about, well,
Speaker 2: it wasn't hit, he was hit. He was hit, and
Speaker 2: if the bullet had been two inches closer, his campaign
Speaker 2: would have been over that day. In about Pennsylvania, the
Speaker 2: bottom line is that we have engaged in tribalism in
Speaker 2: this country, where everybody on our side is right, everybody
Speaker 2: on the other side is wrong, and if something really
Speaker 2: bad happens to someone on the other side, we might
Speaker 2: say the right thing and whatever, but really not all
Speaker 2: that outraged. Now, this guy in Minnesota was some sort
Speaker 2: of a right wing whack a doodle. He should be
Speaker 2: criticized by everybody across the political spectrum, and the same
Speaker 2: way that this fool who threw the rock through the brick,
Speaker 2: through the Brookline grocery store, the Jewish grocery store, he
Speaker 2: should be he should be criticized by everyone everyone. I
Speaker 2: want to hear groups like CARE, the Council on American
Speaker 2: Islamic Relations BIS, which I think is an anti Israeli
Speaker 2: organization at its core. I want to hear their criticisms.
Speaker 2: You won't hear their criticisms. I want to hear criticisms
Speaker 2: from Democrats and Republicans, and I hope you'll join me.
Speaker 2: We're going to open this up tonight. We haven't talked
Speaker 2: about this in a long time, but there's too much
Speaker 2: violence in America, too much violence directed at political leaders.
Speaker 2: The way to get to a political leader vote amount
Speaker 2: of office, Okay, run against them, whatever. But this idea
Speaker 2: that somehow we're going to take political leaders out like
Speaker 2: what happened in Minnesota is absolutely abhorrent. It should be
Speaker 2: abhorrent to everyone everyone, and it should even be more
Speaker 2: abhorrant to the people on the right. These are democratic politicians.
Speaker 2: I want to hear an outcry from conservatives denouncing that,
Speaker 2: just as I want to hear an outcry from Democrats.
Speaker 2: The next time that a Republican political leader is assaulted
Speaker 2: or attacked. Nuff said six one, seven, two, five, four
Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: I think this is an important topic. I hope you'll
Speaker 2: join me. Let's have at it right after this news
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: We talked about that big move last hour. We're talking
Speaker 2: this hour about the proliferation of political violence here in America.
Speaker 2: We have a lot of violence in America, but in
Speaker 2: the last few weeks we have seen going back to
Speaker 2: the attack on the Governor of Pennsylvania's home in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: to other events, the assassination of two young staff members
Speaker 2: of the Israeli Embassy in Washington, d C. After they
Speaker 2: had attended an event at the Jewish Museum in Washington,
Speaker 2: d C. What happened in Boulder, Colorado with the lunatic
Speaker 2: from Oh, I mean, with a flamethrower, just a flamethrower.
Speaker 2: Happens to be Egyptian. And I'm not sure where his
Speaker 2: family is at this point, but I know that his
Speaker 2: family now is in jeopardy of being deported. So the
Speaker 2: acting US Attorney out there says this was him yesterday,
Speaker 2: cut number fifty four, saying that they don't have a
Speaker 2: clear motive. Really, this is Acting US Attorney Joe Thompson,
Speaker 2: cut fifty four.
Speaker 3: The potential motive.
Speaker 2: Let me say this.
Speaker 4: There's been a lot of press with respect to the
Speaker 4: potential motive. Let me say this, there's been a lot
Speaker 4: of press coverage and speculation and discussion about manifesto. I've
Speaker 4: seen nothing like a Unibomber style manifesto in his writings.
Speaker 4: He had many, many notebooks full of plans, lists of names,
Speaker 4: surveillance efforts that he took to surveil and locate the
Speaker 4: home addresses and family members relationships with these elected officials.
Speaker 4: But I have not seen anything involving some sort of
Speaker 4: political screed or manifesto that would clearly identify what motivated him. Obviously,
Speaker 4: his primary motive was to go out and murder people.
Speaker 3: Now they were all.
Speaker 4: Elected officials, they were all Democrats. Beyond that, I think
Speaker 4: it's just way too speculative for anyone that's reviewed these
Speaker 4: materials to know and to say what was motivating him
Speaker 4: in terms of ideology or specific issues.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of.
Speaker 4: There were some abortion rights supporters I believe on the list,
Speaker 4: but again there was dozens and dozens and dozens of
Speaker 4: names on, you know, hundreds of pages of documents that
Speaker 4: were recovered with his writings on.
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know why an acting US attorney would
Speaker 2: try to fog the situation like that. The suspect fifty
Speaker 2: seven year old Advance Boulder into police custody yesterday to
Speaker 2: day manhunt dis According to New York Times, this guy
Speaker 2: impersonated a police officer and fatally shot State Representative Melissa
Speaker 2: Hortman and her husband Mark and wounded State Senator John
Speaker 2: Hoffman and his wife event early Saturday morning. Now, the
Speaker 2: elected officials he targeted were all Democrats. Mister Thompson said,
Speaker 2: you just turn him here and say that abortion rights
Speaker 2: advocates are also among those mentioned in the list of names,
Speaker 2: but mister Thompson said it was too soon to determine
Speaker 2: the motive. Okay, So here's some of the folks who
Speaker 2: are on the list. Senator Tina Smith, us senator of
Speaker 2: a Democrat of Minnesota, said the man's list included her
Speaker 2: and several other lawmakers, all of whom are Democrats. Minnesota's
Speaker 2: other US Senator, Amy Klobaschar, was also named in the
Speaker 2: government's writing her office. At at least three three of
Speaker 2: Minnesota's Democratic congresswomen were listed. According to a law enforcement officer,
Speaker 2: our representatives Elon Omar, Kelly Morrison, and Angie Craig. The
Speaker 2: state attorney general Keith Ellison, another Democrat. I mean, come on,
Speaker 2: come on, this guy was out hunting Democrats. Now, if
Speaker 2: there are Republicans on the list, let's hear about that.
Speaker 2: But this guy was out hunting Democrats. Why is it
Speaker 2: so difficult for US attorney to say that, and why
Speaker 2: is it difficult for Republicans to basically denounce this. My
Speaker 2: understanding is that there have been some comments made by
Speaker 2: John Toon, the Senate majority leader, in terms of providing
Speaker 2: I believe some protections for the two Democratic US Senators,
Speaker 2: Tina Smith and Amy Klobuchar, which is a good thing.
Speaker 2: But I just think there's a hesitancy here to speak
Speaker 2: out if it's perceived as someone who's kind of on
Speaker 2: your side of the field. Both of us have people
Speaker 2: both groups, whether you're a Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, hope
Speaker 2: you want to describe it Okay, right left, whatever demarcation
Speaker 2: you want to make. There are bad people on both sides.
Speaker 2: They're really bad people on both sides. There are people
Speaker 2: who will kill people. You can't be any worse in
Speaker 2: my opinion. I guess I don't know what's worse a
Speaker 2: murder or child molest I mean, you could make an argument.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go there. If you're going to
Speaker 2: kill somebody because of their point of view, their politics
Speaker 2: in this country, I want you to be condemned, but
Speaker 2: I want you to be strongly condemned by the people
Speaker 2: that you might try to associate with. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And maybe you don't think it's important. I do. I do.
Speaker 2: It was up to Republicans when Gabby Gifford was shot.
Speaker 2: It was up to Republicans to lead the outrage, if
Speaker 2: you will, that a member of Congress would be shot
Speaker 2: by someone. Now, I think that guy was absolutely nuts.
Speaker 2: Maybe there was no political ideology, but I would want
Speaker 2: to see a chorus of people, her allies, political allies,
Speaker 2: and her political enemies to say this shall not stand.
Speaker 2: When Steve Calli's was shot at a softball practice in
Speaker 2: advance of the annual Baseball not a softball It's a
Speaker 2: baseball practice at a practice in advance of the annual
Speaker 2: house Baseball game, which was played last week and was
Speaker 2: each year is more and more interesting and more and
Speaker 2: more successful. They get larger, larger crowds. They play it
Speaker 2: now at the home ball park of the Washington Nationals.
Speaker 2: Why is it so tough? Maybe someone can explain to
Speaker 2: me why the the level of outring is muted when
Speaker 2: it's someone that maybe you agree with that person on
Speaker 2: an issue or so, maybe you think that the Republicans
Speaker 2: are not the best people in the world, but that
Speaker 2: doesn't give you the right to shoot them. And maybe
Speaker 2: there were some of these Democrats in Minnesota that this
Speaker 2: guy disagreed with. Sounds like he might have been a
Speaker 2: pro life Republican from what I've read. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing the investigation, But where is the outrage?
Speaker 2: Where is the outrage on both sides? Okay? Because if
Speaker 2: we continue down this road as a nation, it's going
Speaker 2: to get really ugly. And I think that there are
Speaker 2: enemies of the United States of America from both the
Speaker 2: right and left, who would love to see us, you know,
Speaker 2: end up in some sort of cacophony of violence. We
Speaker 2: see the violence in Los Angeles, that street violence. That
Speaker 2: should be that should be criticized across the board. No
Speaker 2: one should be blowing up police cars, No one should
Speaker 2: be setting cars on fire. No one should be throwing
Speaker 2: bricks off of bridges on civilian cars. There's no question
Speaker 2: about that, okay. And no one should have supported the
Speaker 2: j six people who went into the Capitol on January sixth,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. No one should have supported that. But
Speaker 2: what happens is when you don't speak out against it
Speaker 2: and you don't call it what it is, it only
Speaker 2: encourages more action like that, and sometimes it causes action
Speaker 2: coming from the other side. So I'll put this out here.
Speaker 2: I got open lines. I hope you'll have the courage
Speaker 2: enough to say that that you will stand against violence
Speaker 2: across the board, no matter who it is directed against.
Speaker 2: Simple as that. I'm not talking about the incident with
Speaker 2: the senator from California who was who tried to rush
Speaker 2: into a news conference and uh and he was pushed
Speaker 2: back out the door. That's a different story. That's that
Speaker 2: is a senator acting out who doesn't know how to
Speaker 2: comport himself. I'm talking about the physical violence in which
Speaker 2: people die or in which people find themselves maimed. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: This is an important issue. I hope you agree with me,
Speaker 2: and I hope you voice that agreement right after this
Speaker 2: on Nightside.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Well, we have interesting calls lined up. Also, there's an
Speaker 2: interesting story tonight that I'm reading that says that Bloomberg
Speaker 2: is reporting that President Trump has decided to abruptly depart
Speaker 2: the G seven to calling for Tehran evacuation. So at
Speaker 2: this point it looks as if Israel is saying to
Speaker 2: people in Tehran to evacuate the city. That probably does
Speaker 2: not augur well for the city, and apparently there are
Speaker 2: a lot of traffic jams, and now the market is
Speaker 2: not responding well to this. Right now, futures are down tomorrow,
Speaker 2: so we could have very an interesting day tomorrow. But
Speaker 2: in the meantime, let's get to our phone calls. Right now.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Tony and Natick. Pretty simple call.
Speaker 2: Tony asking everyone to denounce political violence, whether it comes
Speaker 2: from their side of the street or from the other,
Speaker 2: what do.
Speaker 5: You think, Well, of course that's the most natural response
Speaker 5: would be the announcer. But I think we actually have
Speaker 5: to take into account with most of these acts that
Speaker 5: we're looking at mental illness and in the cream and uh,
Speaker 5: these people who who commit these acts, they're not on
Speaker 5: the belt right, or they're on one side.
Speaker 2: Or the other. Oh yeah, right, No, there's no question
Speaker 2: they're they're they're out there. But the problem is, uh,
Speaker 2: if I just want to see an a virtually virtual,
Speaker 2: unanimous uh denunciation of any form of political violence, and
Speaker 2: if it happens to be coming from the extreme end
Speaker 2: of the political spectrum where you sit, you need to
Speaker 2: denounce that even more strongly than the folks on the
Speaker 2: other It has to you got to denounce it and
Speaker 2: denounce it strong.
Speaker 5: Obviously. But I mean, have we not heard announcements or
Speaker 5: is it just matter that they're out of the announcements?
Speaker 5: And when when we're not getting it? Because I gotta.
Speaker 2: Tell you, I'm fair I'm fairly sophisticated in this, and
Speaker 2: I'm not the smartest guy in the world uh on this,
Speaker 2: but often I'm looking to hear you know, it's easy
Speaker 2: for people who support the conservative cause when Donald Trump
Speaker 2: narrowly escapes assassination, to be outraged and all of that.
Speaker 2: But I want the Democrats who might look at Donald
Speaker 2: Trump and you know, some of the language the Democrats
Speaker 2: have used about Trump, he's a hitler in waiting and
Speaker 2: all of this, that's not language we should really be
Speaker 2: dealing with. I can't stop people from saying that, but
Speaker 2: that that can appeal to the minds of people who
Speaker 2: you say, are are are not all there?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 6: And and that's true and and you know, they get
Speaker 6: their juices flowing and uh, and then they they commit
Speaker 6: some heinous act.
Speaker 5: But I think that these are as as we say
Speaker 5: they got in terms of their mental status, one foot
Speaker 5: in the on the grave and the other one on
Speaker 5: the banana field. They're on the edge.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 5: Our friend, our friend Luigi who murdered the CEO. Yes,
Speaker 5: you know, but you know what who I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no friend, yeah right.
Speaker 5: You obviously. I mean, the symptoms of schizophrenia are all there.
Speaker 5: And uh, it's sad that we don't identify this stuff
Speaker 5: and act out I treated better.
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, well that's not that's nice. But once
Speaker 2: once it occurs, I just think we have to be quicker,
Speaker 2: and we have to be more unanimous in our denunciations
Speaker 2: of it, no matter where the violence is coming from.
Speaker 2: Simple as that. Hey, Tony, thank you for getting us
Speaker 2: going here. I appreciate it very much. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Okay, great soon, good night.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Alex and Cambridge. Alex, your thought
Speaker 2: on this, this idea.
Speaker 7: Well, Dan, I couldn't agree with him more that both
Speaker 7: sides should condemn violence. And I you know, when when
Speaker 7: Trump as a candidate was nearly killed in Butler, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 7: President Biden expressed a very sincere It sounds to be
Speaker 7: concern and wish him well, But I think we have
Speaker 7: a unique president going on now who is uniquely prone
Speaker 7: to very violent rhetorics, whether he's insulting ethnicities. I'm in
Speaker 7: contrast him with President Bush, after nine to eleven counciled
Speaker 7: Americans not to take it out on Muslims who happened
Speaker 7: to be your neighbor. He said, that's not what this
Speaker 7: is about. This is about the terrorists who attack New York.
Speaker 7: And you know, I agree with that.
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 8: I got that kind of a president's And then we've
Speaker 8: got this guy who urged.
Speaker 2: Well, again. You know, well, do you real whether you
Speaker 2: want what I'm saying, Alex, you're doing.
Speaker 8: Alex, what are we talking about here?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Right, See, what do you want to do is you
Speaker 2: want to demonize Trump, which is fine, but.
Speaker 8: Remember I do because he's a demon. And here's the
Speaker 8: thing you're talking about.
Speaker 2: That this is a good conversation.
Speaker 8: You're talking about the Attorney General who failed to identify
Speaker 8: that the killer's motives in public, saying well, we're not
Speaker 8: so sure. We don't have any you know, record it is.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's an assistant US attorney. He's not the Attorney General, just.
Speaker 8: A US attorney, the US attorney, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 8: So he's being kind of wiggly, he's not being very
Speaker 8: He's been very close to the bone in terms of
Speaker 8: the text that this guy left.
Speaker 2: And that's why I played the sound Alex, congratulations for fam.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying to you, though, is this, when you
Speaker 2: engage in and you start calling somebody a hitler or
Speaker 2: something like that, that.
Speaker 3: Then he's a hitler.
Speaker 2: No, you didn't know, you didn't.
Speaker 8: But when some Democrat demonic about.
Speaker 2: So, he's worse than hitler. He's the devil himself. Oh man, Alex,
Speaker 2: you're you're part of the problem, but he's there's you're
Speaker 2: part of the problem. If you're going to call someone
Speaker 2: demand maybe I am you're part of the problem, Alex.
Speaker 2: Congratulations is it?
Speaker 8: But is it okay Dan to say things about people
Speaker 8: eating cats and dogs, to make these wild assertions that
Speaker 8: are not based on fact, To say a plane crash
Speaker 8: was caused by DEI, you know, blaming handicapped and black
Speaker 8: and Hispanic and Asian people for getting their plane.
Speaker 2: Is that not How did he get elected? How did
Speaker 2: he get elected, Alex?
Speaker 8: Because people are tired of rampant, out of control illegal immigration.
Speaker 3: That's how he got elected.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe the Democrats should have been smarter. I just
Speaker 2: don't think it's help Alex to engage in uh this
Speaker 2: criticize a specific Alex, I'm flat out of time. You've
Speaker 2: never called me before. I hope that the next time
Speaker 2: you call your bully to engage in a conversation, I choose.
Speaker 2: I choose not to. You didn't try very hard. Thanks, Alex.
Speaker 2: I appreciate your call. We'll be back right after the
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock news. Feel free, But this is Alex. No
Speaker 2: matter what would happen to Trump if he's a demon,
Speaker 2: that's kind of okay. Okay, so this policy issues. Is
Speaker 2: Trump's language helpful No, No, absolutely not. Is Tim Wallas's
Speaker 2: language helpful not either. I mean Walls talks about we
Speaker 2: got to do this. You know, we have even people
Speaker 2: like Eric Holder, you know when when when they go low,
Speaker 2: we go really low. Anyway, it's it's an uppel battle,
Speaker 2: but I'll fight it. It's as simple as that. And
Speaker 2: it's tough not to dislike intensely and in some ways
Speaker 2: almost take the other side. We got to back off
Speaker 2: from that. We gotta back off from that. If we don't,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be in real trouble. Coming back on Night's
Speaker 2: side right after this break at the top of the hour,