WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:04.799 It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w Bzy Boston's 2 00:00:04.879 --> 00:00:05.480 new radio. 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:11.400 All right, we're getting to back to a more serious topic. Obviously, 4 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:15.519 the Raffie Devers being traded to the San Francisco Giants 5 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:19.320 from for baseball fans is a serious topic, but nothing 6 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:21.519 is as important what is going on in the Middle 7 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:27.399 East tonight. Israel and Iran are at war. We're delighted 8 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:30.600 to be joined again by the Israeli Console General to 9 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:34.600 New England, Benny Scharone, mister Consul General, welcome back to 10 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:39.799 Night's side. I'm sure you know a lot more about 11 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:44.880 what's going on in in the Middle East tonight than 12 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:47.799 any of us. What is the latest at this point? 13 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:52.240 Obviously it's getting close to dawn over there. It's about 14 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:56.000 a seven hour time difference, if I'm not mistaken. Good evening, sir, 15 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:56.759 How are you tonight? 16 00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:00.880 Good evening? Then good evening to the old It's always 17 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:04.000 a pleasure to be at night Side, and I'm always 18 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:08.879 appreciative of the opportunity to have that time to chat 19 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:11.599 with you and with the audience. So I thank you 20 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:19.560 for the opportunity. Thank you. So Israeli is a war, 21 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:23.079 another war with military operation with Iran over the last 22 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:27.120 couple of days. And this is this is extremely important 23 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:30.319 because Israel is working in order to remove a double 24 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:34.400 existential frat, to remove the nuclear thrat and to remove 25 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:39.840 the bablistic missile thrat that Iran imposts on Israel. And 26 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.560 we have been doing that and we are successful. I 27 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:45.439 think I can tell you this is quite clear that 28 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:50.120 they are losing. Iran is not winning this war because 29 00:01:50.120 --> 00:01:53.319 we had significant military gains over the last couple of days. 30 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:59.439 We had the ability to take off serious problematic enrichment 31 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:05.760 nuclear Richmond's facilities and research and development nuclear facilities in Iran. 32 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:12.680 We had the success of taking out some of the 33 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:18.719 nuclear program leadership in Iran and also some of the 34 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:22.639 military leadership of Iran. And this is important because it 35 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:25.879 allows a good opportunity not just for Israel, but for 36 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:26.919 the greater Middle East. 37 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:35.840 So you've been successful, but Iran has decided to change 38 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:44.080 their tactics and hit your population centers with deadly fire. 39 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:51.120 That is very different from what Iran has done in 40 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:54.719 previous attacks. Am I am I correct on that. 41 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:58.439 Oh, You're absolutely correct. You know, as we speak, I 42 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.919 have you know, our family is back at home. My 43 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:04.439 mother is now in a shelter, my mother in law, 44 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:08.080 my brother, my sister in law, and I'm not unique. 45 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:10.000 You know, most of the is raerely spending most of 46 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:12.400 their nights in shelters over the last couple of days 47 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:17.719 because Iran decided that they are want to deliberately attack 48 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:22.599 Israeli civilian israel civilian centers, and we have witnessing, you know, 49 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:25.000 we saw them doing that over the last couple of days. 50 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:29.560 They are doing that mainly through the nights, spending barrage 51 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:35.319 of ballistic missiles with huge payloads, with extremely heavy loaded 52 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:39.240 with explosives, and that creates a lot of damage. But 53 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:41.479 I want to be one hundred percent clear, they are 54 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:49.520 deliberately deliberately targeting civilian population. I'm saying that because when 55 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:52.439 we are working and fighting in Iran, which we have 56 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:54.759 been doing over the last couple of years, it is 57 00:03:54.879 --> 00:04:00.120 very clear the Iranian population is not, I repeat, is 58 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:04.039 not our target. We are working in order to remove 59 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:06.960 the excidential threat to Israel from your own and we 60 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:10.080 are targeting the nuclear threat and the ballistic missile shot. 61 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:17.240 In the position of your government, how long do you 62 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:23.040 feel or does your government feel this exchange daily nightly 63 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.519 exchange of missiles can continue. 64 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:31.759 So honestly, then I don't know. I don't know to 65 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:35.439 say how long it will take, but I can tell 66 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:38.199 you that we are determined to take advantage of that 67 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:42.959 opportunity and make sure that we are not ending up 68 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:47.800 that round of escalation with Iran. While they can maintain 69 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:51.720 the nuclear thread, the nuclear capability, this is just not 70 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:56.000 going to happen. Iran must never have nuclear weapons, Huran 71 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:00.480 can't never have ran hum enrichment capabilities. And this is 72 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:04.720 a little opportunity to make sure that this is the case. 73 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:07.519 You know, I've been a diplomat for twenty twenty one 74 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:10.439 years and I've been dealing with Irun related issues on 75 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:14.000 and off for the vast majority of my career. Iran 76 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:19.120 has a track record of twenty thirty years of delaying tactics, 77 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:24.160 engaging in negotiations, diplomating negotiations mainly in order to buy 78 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:27.160 some more time, while at the same time continue to 79 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:34.040 develop and promote its military preparedness. It's you building, it's 80 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:40.639 it's nuclear facilities, nuclear uranium enrichment. Making progress in the 81 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:43.959 processes needs that are pretty much needed in order to 82 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.879 take the enriched uranium and turn this into a weapon. 83 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:51.319 So Iran have been doing that for twenty thirty years now, 84 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:55.160 and it came to a point that you know, we 85 00:05:55.399 --> 00:06:00.920 just cannot see the decide seeing how they're advancing those capabilities. 86 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:03.879 So we all determined to do whatever it takes in 87 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:06.519 order to move ahead and make sure that we are 88 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:10.600 completely removing that double existential fat from the knack of 89 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:11.480 the state of Israel. 90 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:17.199 Just a couple more questions, and one is this, This 91 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:20.360 is not the first time that Israel and Iran have 92 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:30.240 exchanged fire. Iran did this a year ago. They they 93 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:35.319 all of a sudden attacked Israel fire the first shots. 94 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:41.360 Here is the weaponry that Iran is using today and 95 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:45.519 the ordinance that they're using today, is it similar to 96 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:49.000 what they used a year ago? Or have they improved 97 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:56.800 either their delivery system or the the lethality the amount 98 00:06:56.839 --> 00:07:01.040 of power that the rockets that are falling on Israel 99 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:04.879 this week from a little over a year ago, a 100 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:06.000 little less than a year ago. 101 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:10.639 That is true. So we see it is true that 102 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:16.759 we had more than once already Iranian attacks coming from Iran, 103 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:20.480 you know, with ballistic misles, and that Israel. What we're 104 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:26.560 witnessing now is more missiles coming at single point in time, 105 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:31.079 and we are seeing much stronger missiles at least some 106 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:34.600 of them, comparing to what we've seen in previous rounds 107 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:38.279 of escalation. And this is another demonstration of how advanced 108 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:45.079 is the Iranian ballistic missile arsenal and the ballistic missile program. 109 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:49.879 Now we have very good, very old defense system, which 110 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:52.439 you know, if they are in a barrage, they are 111 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:56.920 fifty or one hundred ballistic missiles and we end up 112 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:01.000 with only three or four of them penetrating and hitting Israel. 113 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:04.079 This is, this is, this is remarkable, right, but the 114 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:08.199 damage created that even one of them is extremely lethal 115 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:12.120 and problematic. But we can only imagine what have been 116 00:08:12.160 --> 00:08:16.480 the situation without Israel's areal defense system. You just can 117 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:21.639 you know, imagine the magnitude of the damage created when 118 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:28.000 ten twenty fifty ballistic missiles with massive payloads are landing 119 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:32.039 in the small states in Israel. This is, this is 120 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:35.480 not a threat that we can allow ourselves to live with. 121 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:40.840 Last last question, and that is that I know that 122 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:46.480 Prime Minister Netanyahu was interviewed on ABC News tonight Jonathan Carl, 123 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:48.679 I don't know if you had a chance to watch 124 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:53.279 that interview. But in view of the change in strategy 125 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:56.879 that Iran has now employed, whereby they're willing to strike 126 00:08:57.480 --> 00:09:05.440 densely dense pocket relation centers, not military targets, which which 127 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.879 Iran has has not done in the past, does that 128 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:16.759 change the strategy of Israel? Does this put leadership in 129 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:21.679 Iran perhaps in the crosshairs? I know that the Prime 130 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:24.000 Minister was asked that question tonight, and I don't think 131 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:27.600 that you can be probably any more specific, but I 132 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:32.279 assume that if that the calculus of how Israel is 133 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:37.840 going to respond has to somehow change once civilian populations 134 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:44.200 dense civilian populations are being hit outside of major cities. 135 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:49.399 So I said the following, then, you know, we obviously 136 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:57.279 are well prepared for this military confrontation, and we've been 137 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:01.039 working for years and preparing the capability. Is that the 138 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:06.639 Iranian witness since last Thursday. This is not just you know, 139 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:09.720 something that we came up with the very last movement, 140 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:13.639 and this is well, you know, generations of Israeli leadership. 141 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:17.559 I've thought a lot about the objectives and the aims 142 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:24.919 and the means of this operation, and we will continue 143 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:27.919 to do that. We will continue to pursue our objectives. And 144 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:32.519 again it goes back to eliminating that double existential threat 145 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:37.399 from from Israel. I always say also that the Iranian 146 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:40.440 people are not our enemies. We are not working in 147 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:43.399 order to fight against the Iranian people by all means. Know, 148 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:49.320 our problem is with Iran's leadership and Iran's nuclear and 149 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:53.879 ballistic missals ambitions, and the fact that they are building 150 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:57.759 capabilities which aims at destroying the state of Israel. And 151 00:10:57.799 --> 00:10:59.840 you don't have to take my word and that because 152 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:04.039 they have been actively and openly advocating for the destruction 153 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:04.679 of Israel. 154 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:08.080 You know, yeah, there's no question about that. 155 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:14.679 We we can't. We just can't allow the world's most 156 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:21.399 problematic regime get hold of the world's most deadly weapons. 157 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:24.600 This is this is that can't happen. 158 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:30.360 I appreciate your your honesty and uh and of course 159 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:34.720 you have I think the full support of my night 160 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:38.879 side audience. They understand what is at stake here. I 161 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:45.480 know Israel will UH continue this fight however long it takes. 162 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:51.039 But is there a sense as to how quickly this 163 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:54.279 might be resolved or is this something that you think 164 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:59.279 could go on for weeks or longer. 165 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:04.480 I think when currently we are all focused on finding 166 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:10.000 this military campaign and making sure that we are continue 167 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:12.720 to do that. We are continuing doing whatever needs to 168 00:12:12.759 --> 00:12:17.159 be done in order to remove that double existential shred. 169 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:21.960 This is the focus of the Israeli leadership. This is 170 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:26.879 the focus of the Israeli military campaign, and we are 171 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:30.000 determined to do that, and we will keep on doing that. 172 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:34.480 And i'm i'm I'm optimistic. If to judge on what 173 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:37.720 we've been witnessing, I can tell you they are not 174 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:39.159 winning this campaign. 175 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:43.720 Ron is not winning this campaign. 176 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:44.240 I I. 177 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:51.399 Your words to God's ears, mister, mister Godsil General Benny, 178 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:54.080 Benny Shy, thank you so much for your time tonight, 179 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:58.320 and know that our thoughts impressed are with you and 180 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:00.519 the entire population of Israel. 181 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:04.519 Thank you, Dan, thank you night side and the audience. 182 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:08.559 And I'd like to wish you and America, our dear 183 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:11.919 friends here in America, quiet and safe night. 184 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:15.879 Thank you, thank you so much, and may your nights 185 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:20.120 be and your people's nights become quieter and safer in 186 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:23.320 the not too distant future. Thanks again, Benny, I appreciate 187 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:27.240 your time tonight. We'll talk again. Take quick break here 188 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:29.200 when I come back. I want to talk about a 189 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:33.120 couple of incidents this weekend which talk about hated America 190 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:37.840 and how there must be there must be a denouncement 191 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:42.320 of these sorts of activities across the political spectrum. Talking 192 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:47.159 about a simple brick being thrown through the window of 193 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:52.799 a Jewish store, a grocery store in Brookline, and talking 194 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:57.840 about the actions of a madman in Minnesota killing political 195 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:03.559 leaders and hunting down leaders. This and I want to 196 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:07.559 hear I want to hear condemnation across the board. I'll 197 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:09.840 explain what I mean right after the break. 198 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:16.159 Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 199 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:18.200 Probably got a few minutes to the bottom of the hour. 200 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:22.000 Hand I just want to talk about two unrelated, but 201 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:27.279 I think related events. Seemingly unrelated, but I think related events. 202 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:31.879 There was a ugly event that occurred on Harvard Street 203 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:37.679 and Brookline over the weekend when some hate manger decided 204 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:44.279 to throw a brick through the window of a grocery 205 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:48.679 store called the Butchery. It's a kosher store on at 206 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:53.799 four to twenty eight Harvard Street. This brick, which had 207 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:56.440 a writing on it that said free Palestine, was thrown 208 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:03.240 through the market early morning, as I understand it, and 209 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:07.399 I saw the story of the news yesterday, and I 210 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:11.080 thought to myself, this is Brookline, Massachusetts, Okay, when this 211 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:14.039 is happening. And so this is some individual who had 212 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:19.519 the audacity to basically walk down Harvard Street and throw 213 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:23.960 a brick through the window of a Jewish owned grocery 214 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:32.159 store which serves the community in Brookline, When at the 215 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:38.320 same time this weekend, we had some madman in Minnesota 216 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:41.799 decide that he would take it upon himself to dress 217 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:47.879 in a police uniform and attempt to kill two political 218 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:52.200 leaders in that state and their spouses. He was able 219 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:56.360 to take the life of a woman or state representative 220 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:03.519 and her husband, and he wound a state senator and 221 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:09.639 his wife. He's been captured, thankfully, but he had a 222 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:12.759 list of like forty five people who were on maybe 223 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:16.840 what was described as a hit list. And what is 224 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:25.759 happening now when you see this spate of political actions. 225 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.480 Assassinations of the young couple who worked at the Jewish 226 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:34.279 Embassy in Washington, d C. Cut down literally after they 227 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:36.320 walked out of an event at the Jewish Museum in 228 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:39.759 downtown Washington, DC. When you go back and you think 229 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:49.399 about the crazed individual who set the home of the 230 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:55.840 Pennsylvania governor on fire while his family. He and his 231 00:16:55.879 --> 00:17:01.919 family slept in an upstairs upstairs bedrooms. And thank God 232 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:06.079 that that fire was detected and put out, or we 233 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:09.759 would have had the governors, the official residents of the governor, 234 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:11.680 they call it a governor's mansion, look like a very 235 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:16.119 nice house in Pennsylvania and Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. So you have 236 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:23.680 all of these incidents, not to mention the older group 237 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:27.720 of Jewish people in Boulder, Colorado, a couple of weeks ago, 238 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:31.359 who some madman decided that he would attack them with 239 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:37.880 Molotov cocktails. So what I want to see if I 240 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:43.240 can get some of you tonight to join me. Oftentimes, 241 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:47.119 what happens is when a Democratic politician is set upon 242 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:56.400 the criticism of this attack, whether it's on States Congresswoman 243 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:59.720 Gabby Giffords whose career was shot cut short. She was 244 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:04.440 shot in Arizona several years ago, but now it's getting 245 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:08.240 close to fifteen years ago, if I'm not mistaken. You 246 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:12.279 have the group of people members of the Republican softball 247 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:16.000 team who were attacked by a guy in Washington, DC 248 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:19.839 in a softball team practice. Steve Scalise, who was the 249 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:23.279 number three person actually I think might actually be the 250 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:26.720 number two persons in the house now suffered some life 251 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:32.119 threatening wounds. What happens is there tends to be outrage 252 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:37.559 on the side of the political spectrum that is attacked understandably, 253 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:42.240 but a muted criticism or a muted comments from the 254 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:44.920 other side, and it goes both ways. It goes both ways. 255 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:54.319 When President when President Trump suffered a near death in Butler, Pennsylvania, 256 00:18:54.680 --> 00:18:58.920 initially there were some Democrats who kind of laughed about, well, 257 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:04.680 it wasn't hit, he was hit. He was hit, and 258 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:08.400 if the bullet had been two inches closer, his campaign 259 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:10.880 would have been over that day. In about Pennsylvania, the 260 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:16.319 bottom line is that we have engaged in tribalism in 261 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:20.240 this country, where everybody on our side is right, everybody 262 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:23.279 on the other side is wrong, and if something really 263 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:26.680 bad happens to someone on the other side, we might 264 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:29.640 say the right thing and whatever, but really not all 265 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:32.480 that outraged. Now, this guy in Minnesota was some sort 266 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:35.559 of a right wing whack a doodle. He should be 267 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:41.200 criticized by everybody across the political spectrum, and the same 268 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:44.240 way that this fool who threw the rock through the brick, 269 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:50.119 through the Brookline grocery store, the Jewish grocery store, he 270 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:54.920 should be he should be criticized by everyone everyone. I 271 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:58.799 want to hear groups like CARE, the Council on American 272 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:04.160 Islamic Relations BIS, which I think is an anti Israeli 273 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:08.160 organization at its core. I want to hear their criticisms. 274 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:11.960 You won't hear their criticisms. I want to hear criticisms 275 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:14.599 from Democrats and Republicans, and I hope you'll join me. 276 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:17.200 We're going to open this up tonight. We haven't talked 277 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:19.839 about this in a long time, but there's too much 278 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:25.359 violence in America, too much violence directed at political leaders. 279 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:28.480 The way to get to a political leader vote amount 280 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:34.480 of office, Okay, run against them, whatever. But this idea 281 00:20:34.599 --> 00:20:38.240 that somehow we're going to take political leaders out like 282 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:41.880 what happened in Minnesota is absolutely abhorrent. It should be 283 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:46.079 abhorrent to everyone everyone, and it should even be more 284 00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:52.440 abhorrant to the people on the right. These are democratic politicians. 285 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:56.640 I want to hear an outcry from conservatives denouncing that, 286 00:20:57.039 --> 00:20:59.799 just as I want to hear an outcry from Democrats. 287 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:03.640 The next time that a Republican political leader is assaulted 288 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.960 or attacked. Nuff said six one, seven, two, five, four 289 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:10.759 ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 290 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:13.079 I think this is an important topic. I hope you'll 291 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:16.720 join me. Let's have at it right after this news 292 00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:17.720 at the bottom of the hour. 293 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:22.160 You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z, 294 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:23.799 Boston's news radio. 295 00:21:24.839 --> 00:21:27.319 We talked about that big move last hour. We're talking 296 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:33.319 this hour about the proliferation of political violence here in America. 297 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:36.079 We have a lot of violence in America, but in 298 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:40.519 the last few weeks we have seen going back to 299 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:45.079 the attack on the Governor of Pennsylvania's home in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, 300 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:50.519 to other events, the assassination of two young staff members 301 00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:53.640 of the Israeli Embassy in Washington, d C. After they 302 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:57.119 had attended an event at the Jewish Museum in Washington, 303 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:01.759 d C. What happened in Boulder, Colorado with the lunatic 304 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:10.680 from Oh, I mean, with a flamethrower, just a flamethrower. 305 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:14.640 Happens to be Egyptian. And I'm not sure where his 306 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:16.400 family is at this point, but I know that his 307 00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:19.400 family now is in jeopardy of being deported. So the 308 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:25.920 acting US Attorney out there says this was him yesterday, 309 00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:29.920 cut number fifty four, saying that they don't have a 310 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:34.319 clear motive. Really, this is Acting US Attorney Joe Thompson, 311 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:35.440 cut fifty four. 312 00:22:36.279 --> 00:22:37.160 The potential motive. 313 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:37.799 Let me say this. 314 00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:40.920 There's been a lot of press with respect to the 315 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:43.400 potential motive. Let me say this, there's been a lot 316 00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:47.960 of press coverage and speculation and discussion about manifesto. I've 317 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:53.279 seen nothing like a Unibomber style manifesto in his writings. 318 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:58.079 He had many, many notebooks full of plans, lists of names, 319 00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:01.839 surveillance efforts that he took to surveil and locate the 320 00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:05.640 home addresses and family members relationships with these elected officials. 321 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:08.920 But I have not seen anything involving some sort of 322 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:15.000 political screed or manifesto that would clearly identify what motivated him. Obviously, 323 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:17.160 his primary motive was to go out and murder people. 324 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:18.599 Now they were all. 325 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:23.680 Elected officials, they were all Democrats. Beyond that, I think 326 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.440 it's just way too speculative for anyone that's reviewed these 327 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:30.160 materials to know and to say what was motivating him 328 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:32.400 in terms of ideology or specific issues. 329 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:33.119 There's a lot of. 330 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:37.160 There were some abortion rights supporters I believe on the list, 331 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:40.400 but again there was dozens and dozens and dozens of 332 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:44.119 names on, you know, hundreds of pages of documents that 333 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:45.720 were recovered with his writings on. 334 00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:49.640 Now, I don't know why an acting US attorney would 335 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:56.480 try to fog the situation like that. The suspect fifty 336 00:23:56.559 --> 00:24:02.000 seven year old Advance Boulder into police custody yesterday to 337 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:06.400 day manhunt dis According to New York Times, this guy 338 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:11.039 impersonated a police officer and fatally shot State Representative Melissa 339 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:14.440 Hortman and her husband Mark and wounded State Senator John 340 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:19.440 Hoffman and his wife event early Saturday morning. Now, the 341 00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:23.400 elected officials he targeted were all Democrats. Mister Thompson said, 342 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:25.960 you just turn him here and say that abortion rights 343 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:29.160 advocates are also among those mentioned in the list of names, 344 00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:32.359 but mister Thompson said it was too soon to determine 345 00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:34.680 the motive. Okay, So here's some of the folks who 346 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:38.200 are on the list. Senator Tina Smith, us senator of 347 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:41.920 a Democrat of Minnesota, said the man's list included her 348 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:45.759 and several other lawmakers, all of whom are Democrats. Minnesota's 349 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:49.240 other US Senator, Amy Klobaschar, was also named in the 350 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:52.240 government's writing her office. At at least three three of 351 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:56.960 Minnesota's Democratic congresswomen were listed. According to a law enforcement officer, 352 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:02.440 our representatives Elon Omar, Kelly Morrison, and Angie Craig. The 353 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:06.680 state attorney general Keith Ellison, another Democrat. I mean, come on, 354 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:12.359 come on, this guy was out hunting Democrats. Now, if 355 00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:15.519 there are Republicans on the list, let's hear about that. 356 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:19.440 But this guy was out hunting Democrats. Why is it 357 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:23.559 so difficult for US attorney to say that, and why 358 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:29.599 is it difficult for Republicans to basically denounce this. My 359 00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:33.119 understanding is that there have been some comments made by 360 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:39.160 John Toon, the Senate majority leader, in terms of providing 361 00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:43.680 I believe some protections for the two Democratic US Senators, 362 00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:47.000 Tina Smith and Amy Klobuchar, which is a good thing. 363 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:53.720 But I just think there's a hesitancy here to speak 364 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:57.720 out if it's perceived as someone who's kind of on 365 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:01.160 your side of the field. Both of us have people 366 00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:05.559 both groups, whether you're a Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, hope 367 00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:09.799 you want to describe it Okay, right left, whatever demarcation 368 00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:13.960 you want to make. There are bad people on both sides. 369 00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:17.599 They're really bad people on both sides. There are people 370 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:20.839 who will kill people. You can't be any worse in 371 00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:24.680 my opinion. I guess I don't know what's worse a 372 00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:27.880 murder or child molest I mean, you could make an argument. 373 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.559 I'm not going to go there. If you're going to 374 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:35.400 kill somebody because of their point of view, their politics 375 00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:41.279 in this country, I want you to be condemned, but 376 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:45.000 I want you to be strongly condemned by the people 377 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.759 that you might try to associate with. That's all I'm saying. 378 00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:54.039 And maybe you don't think it's important. I do. I do. 379 00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:57.839 It was up to Republicans when Gabby Gifford was shot. 380 00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:03.920 It was up to Republicans to lead the outrage, if 381 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.559 you will, that a member of Congress would be shot 382 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:10.319 by someone. Now, I think that guy was absolutely nuts. 383 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:14.240 Maybe there was no political ideology, but I would want 384 00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:20.759 to see a chorus of people, her allies, political allies, 385 00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:26.039 and her political enemies to say this shall not stand. 386 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:31.079 When Steve Calli's was shot at a softball practice in 387 00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:35.240 advance of the annual Baseball not a softball It's a 388 00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:39.039 baseball practice at a practice in advance of the annual 389 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:42.920 house Baseball game, which was played last week and was 390 00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:46.480 each year is more and more interesting and more and 391 00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:49.359 more successful. They get larger, larger crowds. They play it 392 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.720 now at the home ball park of the Washington Nationals. 393 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.160 Why is it so tough? Maybe someone can explain to 394 00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:03.039 me why the the level of outring is muted when 395 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.960 it's someone that maybe you agree with that person on 396 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:12.519 an issue or so, maybe you think that the Republicans 397 00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:14.720 are not the best people in the world, but that 398 00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:17.680 doesn't give you the right to shoot them. And maybe 399 00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:20.799 there were some of these Democrats in Minnesota that this 400 00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:24.279 guy disagreed with. Sounds like he might have been a 401 00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:28.640