Speaker 1: Hi. My name is Tom Welling.
Speaker 2: I played Clark Kent on Smallville and you are listening
Speaker 2: to Always Hold On to Smallville.
Speaker 3: Welcome Always onto Smallville. In this podcast, we talk about
Speaker 3: each in every episode of The Young Superman Show. And
Speaker 3: we're from two thousand and one to twenty eleven on
Speaker 3: the WB and the CW. I'm your host Zagmore and
Speaker 3: we're back with mail Bag number thirteen, Part two, Part two.
Speaker 3: I'm your host zag Moore. And you heard him, you
Speaker 3: love him? From Always on the Arrow.
Speaker 2: We have last last and Nick Ryan Magdoza.
Speaker 3: He's not from Always on the Arrow, but he's here.
Speaker 3: And we're back a whole week later. Guys, how have
Speaker 3: you been.
Speaker 2: It's been good.
Speaker 1: It's been a week.
Speaker 3: Oh man, let me tell you anyway. All right, so
Speaker 3: let's open the mail back back up. Let's not waste
Speaker 3: any time. Let's open up mail Bag number thirteen, Part two.
Speaker 3: This is you guys, don't know it's a second bag.
Speaker 3: This is thirteen two on it got a Facebook message
Speaker 3: from Steve Clark. I have two category suggestions for the
Speaker 3: tally board. How about Lex get shot which seems to
Speaker 3: happen every three to four episodes now, so Lona car accidents.
Speaker 3: I'm up to season six, episode four and account at
Speaker 3: least four so far. Wow, you know we are so
Speaker 3: deep in the show show. Yes, Steve, I don't think
Speaker 3: I can add these. These are good suggestions, though, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean definitely Les getting shot and and you.
Speaker 4: Know what, let's add those lin of car accidents to
Speaker 4: the Trent the Kent Truck Act fifty so I can
Speaker 4: get my numbers.
Speaker 3: I remember, we remember Lance's prediction back in season one,
Speaker 3: he said We're gonna have fifty Kent truck accidents. Now
Speaker 3: I laughed at him at the time, yes, and I
Speaker 3: still laugh at you.
Speaker 4: Yes, but as you should.
Speaker 3: It's a ten it's a ten season show, and we
Speaker 3: had like five. That's why you can never do.
Speaker 1: The projected stats exactly.
Speaker 3: Those are fun category, Steve. But Lana and Lex are
Speaker 3: both gone from the show. It would be interesting to
Speaker 3: look at those, but I cannot promise we'd be adding
Speaker 3: those to the tally where it is late date. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so despite our setition compartment. But thanks for the message, Steve.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: Next, we have an email from mister Don White titled
Speaker 4: Ken Dorian count. I think it was Chloe that said
Speaker 4: that there are one hundred and twenty six sentinels that
Speaker 4: showed up when the Kendorians arrived on Earth, So wouldn't
Speaker 4: that mean there were one hundred and twenty six Candorians
Speaker 4: that arrived. Could be wrong, just wanted to point that out.
Speaker 3: You know, you might be right, don I looked for
Speaker 3: a number at some point all season, and if she
Speaker 3: said that, I missed it. But also, uh dj Duenna
Speaker 3: has sent me a voice message and pointing this out,
Speaker 3: and I think I have since corrected our stat board
Speaker 3: because I was counting the Candorians for not the Last
Speaker 3: Ones of Rypton. But they're clones, so they shouldn't count
Speaker 3: because clones aren't people. We can all agree about that, right,
Speaker 3: so get all metaphysical if you take them out, and
Speaker 3: then you take out the the Zorel and Laura clones,
Speaker 3: and we have a much lower number now for the
Speaker 3: not the last one of Krypton because these aren't people
Speaker 3: that survived Krypton's destruction. They're just clones, so they don't
Speaker 3: count in that category, So it doesn't matter how many
Speaker 3: Candorians they are. Although on Pandora and the mid seas
Speaker 3: of season.
Speaker 1: Nine on Pandora, thank you.
Speaker 3: You see like thousands of them blotting out the sun
Speaker 3: Zack Snyders style. So I don't know how that happened anyway,
Speaker 3: Thank you for that number. I'm curious where it came
Speaker 3: from because I was looking really hard for hell season.
Speaker 3: But thank you for that for that message.
Speaker 2: All right. Now we have an email from Alison Skulthorp.
Speaker 2: It's titled great padcat title Austin, Great podcast, titled great podcast.
Speaker 2: Just finished season seven. Hello, Zach. I sent you an
Speaker 2: email last summer letting you know that I started watching
Speaker 2: Smallville because of your podcast at that time. I just
Speaker 2: finished season four. I know it's not one of your favorites,
Speaker 2: but I'm a huge Jensen Accles fan, so I really
Speaker 2: enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: Oh you are you huge Ackles fan, and you gotta
Speaker 3: be really disappointed in talk feel season four.
Speaker 2: I also found the plot about the witches and the
Speaker 2: search for the crystals different and fun.
Speaker 1: What was different?
Speaker 2: I've just finished season seven, like you. I did fine,
Speaker 2: I liked it better than season six.
Speaker 1: Now we're back things else.
Speaker 2: I really didn't like the Lexana stuff and the whole
Speaker 2: storyline of lex faking Lana's pregnancy seems so awful.
Speaker 4: It didn't seem that way.
Speaker 2: Those funny to have the Veritas window suddenly appeared. The
Speaker 2: traveler plot line seemed much more interesting and made more
Speaker 2: sense in the Smallville universe. I listened to your podcast
Speaker 2: all the time as I'm driving to and from work.
Speaker 2: I love the banter with your guests, the quotes for
Speaker 2: the companion books, and your takes on the more ridiculous scenes.
Speaker 2: As I'm watching now, I'll add to the tally board
Speaker 2: in my head, thinking oh, there's a hospital visit, or hey,
Speaker 2: they said you're not yourself. I look forward to listening
Speaker 2: for another three seasons. Oh, by the way, I believe
Speaker 2: you mentioned the cartoon James Bond Junior in one of
Speaker 2: your podcasts. I watched that when I was young and
Speaker 2: even remember some of the theme song. Alison s thanks,
Speaker 2: as do you remember the song?
Speaker 4: I don't remember the same James something like that.
Speaker 3: What James Bond's nephew. Yes, it's a cartoon in the
Speaker 3: like a game Boy game. Yeah, okay, not many people
Speaker 3: know what that. Yeah, I think I was talking about.
Speaker 3: It must have been with the Sleeper or Jimmy Olsen's
Speaker 3: the Sigarette. I assume that's when I brought that up.
Speaker 1: James Bond Jr.
Speaker 2: No one can suck him, must come, almost tries his
Speaker 2: young gone cuts through his web of spies.
Speaker 1: He learned the game Brown James. Now he's the game James.
Speaker 3: James Bond or.
Speaker 4: Look out, He's coming through.
Speaker 2: He's got a job to do while he rescues the girl.
Speaker 3: James Bond Junior Chasers Gone unser around the world.
Speaker 4: I remember us like in high school making fun of
Speaker 4: that cartoon for something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why, who knows, who knows the
Speaker 1: reason the.
Speaker 4: Reason why we did, But like I think we just
Speaker 4: remember that it was a thing and we're just like
Speaker 4: laughing about it.
Speaker 3: No, that we're not in alignment on season four, which
Speaker 3: is fair probably most people aren't with me.
Speaker 1: But the season seven.
Speaker 3: We definitely are are in alignment. So thank you for
Speaker 3: that email, Allison. Don't stranger, all right. I got a
Speaker 3: Facebook message from Dave Coggswell. Minnesota has new black plates,
Speaker 3: so I did a little Smallville theme. They wouldn't let
Speaker 3: me use special characters, so I had to change the
Speaker 3: zero to standard and I couldn't use a dash. So
Speaker 3: this is what it should look like when they show up,
Speaker 3: and he sent me a picture of his license plate,
Speaker 3: which can I post that on social I mean.
Speaker 2: Probably shouldn't, Probably shouldn't. Maybe just just describe.
Speaker 3: It for I mean, it looks like it's like the
Speaker 3: lex with the black and the white anyway, all his
Speaker 3: customs license plates. So anyway, Dave, I'll I'll post that
Speaker 3: on the No, that that's fun, David, if you want
Speaker 3: me to share it with the world, let me know.
Speaker 3: If not, I will not post that with our other
Speaker 3: social media's posts.
Speaker 1: But no, that that's cool.
Speaker 3: I've thought about I've often thought about custom license plates,
Speaker 3: but then it's like there's some sense of anonymity when
Speaker 3: it's because you like, look, QUI gone over here or whatever,
Speaker 3: and then you get embarrassed, you get pulled over whatever.
Speaker 3: I mean, the most personalization I have in my cars,
Speaker 3: I got the Houston Astros license plate frames for that
Speaker 3: for the two times, two times World Series champions. So
Speaker 3: when we went again to this year, when am I
Speaker 3: gonna put the gig, I don't know. I don't even
Speaker 3: know license plates to That's.
Speaker 2: How I figured out that you were already there for dinner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Astros, Because Nick Sillson on my car looks like
Speaker 3: in feest car for years.
Speaker 1: Also asked, hey, what's the interest to your house?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Hey, they only let me out of the
Speaker 2: dungeon like once. This is full all right.
Speaker 3: Another disclaimer, because it's part two not part one. Nick
Speaker 3: is our friend. Yes, we give them a hard time.
Speaker 3: I know it sounds like were just beating up on
Speaker 3: this guy. He chooses to be here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to be here. It's fun.
Speaker 3: Dynamic has not changed since two thousand and three. Yep, basically,
Speaker 3: which is probably a bad thing.
Speaker 1: A little bit. We'll talk off.
Speaker 2: Patreons. If you sign up, maybe it will be a
Speaker 2: discussion with doctor Mike from last week.
Speaker 3: Doctor Mike, can you please analyze her friendship function?
Speaker 1: Friendship we have?
Speaker 4: That's so funny? All right. Next, we have a Facebook
Speaker 4: message from Katie Parker. Hey, Zach, I'm pretty still pretty
Speaker 4: far behind on the podcast, almost on the season four,
Speaker 4: but I just listened to Blank with Nancy and Lance. Yeah,
Speaker 4: shout out to Nancy. Uh and I got to say
Speaker 4: that they are my two favorite guests. Pretty cool, thank you.
Speaker 4: And and you know Nancy is one of my favorite
Speaker 4: people as well.
Speaker 1: O G Yeah, high school, much like she was on
Speaker 1: the earlier seasons.
Speaker 4: I do remember that, and having all three of you
Speaker 4: was an absolute pleasure to listen to. I also wanted
Speaker 4: to mention that I watched the whole series with my
Speaker 4: fiance recently on Hulu, and every time you mentioned a
Speaker 4: deleted scene, I think pretty sure we saw that. I
Speaker 4: think Hulu has the deleted scenes built in. Just wanted
Speaker 4: to mention that to you. It's possible. You talk about
Speaker 4: that in the later in later later episodes, and I'm
Speaker 4: just super behind.
Speaker 2: I appreciate all that you do.
Speaker 3: Well, thanks, Katie. I get this a lot about Hulu.
Speaker 3: There's only one exception about deleted scenes, and it's actually
Speaker 3: the reverse. Hulu actually has the syndication version of the pilot,
Speaker 3: so it has less scenes than the full version of
Speaker 3: the pilot. And other than that, no, Hulu does not
Speaker 3: put in the deleted scenes. I would love there to
Speaker 3: be extended versions of all these small episodes. They all
Speaker 3: have to do that myself one day, but no, the
Speaker 3: Hulu does not have extended versions of the episodes. They
Speaker 3: just have the same syndication cuts that the broadcast originally,
Speaker 3: and every broadcast on the ABC Family, et cetera, including
Speaker 3: the pilot, which is shorter, so if anything has less scenes,
Speaker 3: worse scenes.
Speaker 2: All right, and now we have an email from our
Speaker 2: friend Corey Moore d titled invite Hey Zach. The past
Speaker 2: few months I've been in contact with Talkfield, the producer
Speaker 2: Rosenbob Welling, et cetera. And I'm invited to Michael's house
Speaker 2: to record the last episode of season four, April fools
Speaker 2: up up in the way more.
Speaker 3: Jokes rega Corey that was in on April first, as
Speaker 3: you might, as you might figure it out, but that
Speaker 3: Corey always always has something clever to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we love them for it. Thanks Corey.
Speaker 3: All Right, I got a Facebook message from Aaron Larenz says, Hey, Zach,
Speaker 3: A couple of thoughts for your next millbag. First, with
Speaker 3: a lot of and Lois Booths finding out about Clark's
Speaker 3: secret after about five seasons, which them, do you think
Speaker 3: they should have had shortened that timeframe. Secondly, I wish
Speaker 3: on Talkviille Michael Rosamam will be as enthusiastic about the
Speaker 3: show for which he owes most of his fame to
Speaker 3: s he is for the ads he does throughout the
Speaker 3: show thanks to the hours of content. Well to your
Speaker 3: first question, I would say Lana, because like she was
Speaker 3: around for like her entire relationship with Clark, weird stuff
Speaker 3: was going on, and she lived in Smallville. Lois was
Speaker 3: kind of in and out. Thought Clark was a little
Speaker 3: weird anyway, She wasn't there all the time unless she
Speaker 3: lived with the Kins, but they like they were, Clark
Speaker 3: was intentionally keeping distance from her. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 3: he always wanted to be with, So, like I I
Speaker 3: would appreciate it. Well, that's the thing, like even with
Speaker 3: Chloe any dim but even with Chloe, like she has
Speaker 3: to be shown, like they all at some point, they
Speaker 3: all have to be shown the secret, right or more
Speaker 3: or less.
Speaker 1: So I would like one of.
Speaker 3: Them to have just figured it out, yeah, legitimately, like
Speaker 3: piece it all together, right, But of the two of them,
Speaker 3: I would say Lona, would you guys.
Speaker 1: Agree for those reasons?
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: And I totally agree about the ads on Tokville. Well
Speaker 3: we'll just we'll leave it there. But what point well taken?
Speaker 3: And I agree with you, Eric.
Speaker 4: Yes, all right. Next, we have a Facebook message from
Speaker 4: Chris Gardner. I'm listening to season seven of your podcast
Speaker 4: and I came across this. All I could think of
Speaker 4: is product placement Pete.
Speaker 1: Yes, a stride gum, Yep, we'll.
Speaker 3: We'll add the picture they used us here Chris and
Speaker 3: uh on the social media. But but but thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you for that product place in Pete.
Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, Now we have an email from Maurice M.
Speaker 2: I'm finally on season nine, just began always Arrow, what's up?
Speaker 2: Zach Lance and Big Nick? Gosh, I have a nickname now,
Speaker 2: Big Nick.
Speaker 3: Again, we didn't plan this, Yeah, this is the rotation.
Speaker 2: I dig it.
Speaker 1: You're Big Nick from now on, Big Nick.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 2: It took how many thirteen mail bags or whatever number?
Speaker 1: We're truly thirteen?
Speaker 3: Part two part A lot of other parts in there too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I thought when I was like, when he pleased too,
Speaker 3: should I call him like a different number?
Speaker 1: No, this isn't the same.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're here a week later, obviously, but it's
Speaker 3: an extension of what we were doing before. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: Big Nick, please continue?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, he goes. First off, I want to
Speaker 2: apologize for my last email. I was using voice to
Speaker 2: text and a bit of dyslexia kicked in, so I
Speaker 2: wasn't able to catch all the spelling and grammar errors.
Speaker 2: I bet you guys got a kick of that out
Speaker 2: of that reading Wow.
Speaker 1: Hold on, I think I spot chick on that.
Speaker 2: Actually yeah, and I think I just had about myself.
Speaker 4: Correction.
Speaker 2: He goes and says, I bet you guys got a
Speaker 2: kick out of reading that one. I finally caught up
Speaker 2: to you guys and season nine. At the time of
Speaker 2: me writing this email, I'm on Warrior. By the time
Speaker 2: you get to the next mail bag, I should be
Speaker 2: on the same episode as your podcasts, waiting week by
Speaker 2: week for the next exciting episode of Always hold On
Speaker 2: to Smallville. With Lona out of the picture, I remembered
Speaker 2: how much I loved this season. Erica and Tom have
Speaker 2: amazing chemistry. It just sucks it took nine seasons to
Speaker 2: fully explore it. Zod's character was awesome. I did like
Speaker 2: Oliver's arc that carried over from season eight. It shows
Speaker 2: that heroes can hit rock bottom if you smell oh
Speaker 2: wait wrong, hero, what.
Speaker 4: The rock is cooking?
Speaker 2: But with the strong enough push they can rise up
Speaker 2: stronger than they were before. I like the scene with
Speaker 2: Oliver and Clark on the roof together at the end
Speaker 2: of Roulette. Is it me or has Chloe become a
Speaker 2: real b. It's so interesting not watching these, but it's
Speaker 2: the same notes from every single person. I'm not liking
Speaker 2: her character that much anymore. She's making bad decisions. I
Speaker 2: think she's right, and no one is calling her out
Speaker 2: on her bs. Maybe when the Legion removed Brainiac it
Speaker 2: took half of her common sense with it. I guess
Speaker 2: I'll give her points for bringing Oliver back to being
Speaker 2: a hero. Don't even get me started on Felicity and
Speaker 2: from Aero, she was like see A nine Chloe two
Speaker 2: point zero times one hundred. Damn, she was the worst
Speaker 2: in the last half of Arrow. See this is what
Speaker 2: happens when the writers tried to DVA from the comics
Speaker 2: when it comes to relationships. If they would just have
Speaker 2: Alliver and Black Canary be together after season three, maybe
Speaker 2: would would not have gotten b two point Oh, Felicity,
Speaker 2: what do you think? I'm excited for the rest of
Speaker 2: season nine and your commentary on season ten. I just
Speaker 2: started listening to Always Hold On to Arrow and so
Speaker 2: far I like the format. I'll definitely go back and
Speaker 2: rewatch the first three seasons.
Speaker 3: Well, let's take a positive Lett. Would you like to
Speaker 3: respond to Felicity being a bee in the second half
Speaker 3: of because I feel like obviously season four she did
Speaker 3: that was a dark time.
Speaker 1: Season four, she really is a big rebound.
Speaker 4: She rebounds really well actually, and she had a great
Speaker 4: season six, which we just finished, Kevin and I did. Yeah,
Speaker 4: season four was really her lowest point in a lot
Speaker 4: of ways. I mean, she nukes a town in the season.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, she nukes a town.
Speaker 4: Yes, I just realized what we were talking about. Okay, yep,
Speaker 4: she nukes a town. So yeah, she has a nice rebound. Actually,
Speaker 4: so there'll be too hard on Felicity.
Speaker 2: They go on saying, I'm really glad Zach and Lance
Speaker 2: are doing these podcasts. Yes they do. Listen to them.
Speaker 2: Makes the workday go by faster. Until next time, Remember
Speaker 2: to always hold on, remember to stay super broke. Yes,
Speaker 2: I binge watched Friday Night Lights on Netflix. I better
Speaker 2: understand your references. I didn't watch it. I didn't watch
Speaker 2: when it aired on TV. But overall it was a
Speaker 2: good show. It's smashed, baby, y'all kind of get wild
Speaker 2: down to Texas, huh. If you want to see Michael B.
Speaker 2: Jordan even earlier in his career, check out Hardball with
Speaker 2: Keanu Reeves. Thanks for your hard work, Maurice.
Speaker 3: So that is that movie for like the baseball he's
Speaker 3: in that, he's a little kid, he's a kid.
Speaker 1: Well wow watching that and yeah, see that's on streaming.
Speaker 3: No, you're absolutely about coolie, Maurice. It's really unfortunate. I'm like,
Speaker 3: how like, over the course, I defended Chloe for like
Speaker 3: six and a half seven years on this podcast, and
Speaker 3: they get to season and I'm like, choly really disappointed
Speaker 3: in your in your choices and season nine she has
Speaker 3: this attitude and superiority complex to the point where and
Speaker 3: we're about to go into season ten and our episode
Speaker 3: by also coverage, it's like, oh good, what she's going.
Speaker 3: It's really unfortunate. So uh But to Felicity, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Felicia did nukea town and season four, so I mean
Speaker 3: that or getting her husband killed by the man who
Speaker 3: run away with him. For that's I don't know what
Speaker 3: it's rough, want of the on the scales of morality,
Speaker 3: I don't know what it's rough worse, But anyway that
Speaker 3: you can't argue. There's a lot of comparisons to be
Speaker 3: made between Felicity Smoke and Chloe Sullivan, and they both
Speaker 3: ended up with a green.
Speaker 1: Arrow, as we all know.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, all right.
Speaker 3: Email from Rocky Tomlin. Another email from Rocky, a new
Speaker 3: round of questions from East Texas. Greetings from East Texas again.
Speaker 2: From east Side.
Speaker 3: Greetings from East Texas again. I was worried I was
Speaker 3: emailing the show too much. No such thing as too
Speaker 3: much emails, yes, Rocky, until I just listened to me
Speaker 3: like number one on my way through the podcast from
Speaker 3: the pilot on, I will never catch coreymore so I
Speaker 3: think I am good. Now onto my questions for the
Speaker 3: show Smallvil questions Now that Talkville is almost at the
Speaker 3: end of season four and by the time the next
Speaker 3: mail bag might be all the way through it, Well.
Speaker 1: They weren't.
Speaker 3: Uh, what has been the most interesting thing you've learned
Speaker 3: from their insight?
Speaker 1: Them?
Speaker 3: Michael tom Al Miles, Guest, Hast, et cetera. For example,
Speaker 3: For me, I was shocked that John Shiner was never
Speaker 3: asked to direct again because how he shot the episode Talisman.
Speaker 3: But ironically it was because Miles used up all of
Speaker 3: his budget on Memoria.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was.
Speaker 3: John Shinner had a lot of interesting things to say.
Speaker 3: He sure always does, doesn't he Ah, So he was
Speaker 3: trying to make it work. Also the fact that they
Speaker 3: shot the show with the mindset the average year only
Speaker 3: watched one out of every four episodes. Meanwhile, the real
Speaker 3: fans were hanging on every fresh episode getting a Redux
Speaker 3: or kinetic when they weren't even counting on those. They
Speaker 3: were focused on getting to the big episode moments and
Speaker 3: did not care about all of them. Next, I would
Speaker 3: say it was surprised. It made sense when Alan Miles
Speaker 3: said they did not write any episodes after Crusade. They
Speaker 3: didn't leave until the end of season seven. But it
Speaker 3: all makes sense why the rest of the show ultimately
Speaker 3: began to be different even then very true, because it
Speaker 3: was no longer their actual writing. Okay, this time I
Speaker 3: had some non Smable questions. Well let me let me
Speaker 3: answer the smable questions or first Talkville. I was recently
Speaker 3: on it, and I think me asking Tom about the
Speaker 3: glasses was the thing.
Speaker 1: I was like that.
Speaker 3: It was like, why didn't you wear these glasses? And
Speaker 3: his answer there was like, hey, you know what there
Speaker 3: was there was a scene in the Luther Manginard. I
Speaker 3: came around a hallway and I had to push my
Speaker 3: glasses up and he was a middle finger and that
Speaker 3: was on purpose, and like that's all he needed to know.
Speaker 3: I always suspected he hated wear anything glasses. But also
Speaker 3: one of the main other things was they always talked
Speaker 3: about we always have speculated about Lex and the Snow
Speaker 3: in that flashback in the finale where he's like his
Speaker 3: memories is getting raised, But that never happened on the show.
Speaker 3: That was filmed when they filmed the end of season
Speaker 3: four in the snow, and they talk about that in
Speaker 3: the helicopters and stuff. Now, I don't they They must
Speaker 3: not know what they were gonna do, and they just
Speaker 3: filmed that for safety, and somehow that only made it
Speaker 3: into the series finale where his memory is getting raised.
Speaker 1: It is a gift of small valon Hulu.
Speaker 3: It's like this didn't even happen on the show. And
Speaker 3: Lex and the Snow he went to the fortress, know,
Speaker 3: it's not how he went to the fortress. There's a
Speaker 3: deleted scene from the original Veritas cut, which is the
Speaker 3: promo for I Believe quest or Sleeper. I'm not one
Speaker 3: of the two of him at a parka. That's not
Speaker 3: that anyway. All that to say, those things are kind
Speaker 3: of some of the most interesting things I've heard. And
Speaker 3: that's the great point about talk Fille is regardless of
Speaker 3: how much litteral they talk about an episode, usually get
Speaker 3: a couple of interesting points of trivia that only those
Speaker 3: guys will know during the show. Okay, this time I
Speaker 3: had some non small ble questions. What do you think
Speaker 3: some of the best cliffhangers in all television?
Speaker 1: For me?
Speaker 3: The Small season one finale is up there. I agree
Speaker 3: with best of both worlds. Okay, you're speaking on language, Rockey,
Speaker 3: but also was really really affected by the season of
Speaker 3: voyage or where they were left on that planet and
Speaker 3: you know the ship flying away? What basics Part one
Speaker 3: and two?
Speaker 1: Very good? How are they gonna get back to the
Speaker 1: ship now? Very true?
Speaker 3: As always, I enjoy the show and keep up the
Speaker 3: good work. Fun fact in mail back one, you spec
Speaker 3: late that you will be done with the series rewatching
Speaker 3: twenty twenty Happy twenty twenty four. I wanted him glad
Speaker 3: that it is still going since I just found ot
Speaker 3: last year. Until next time, Rocky from Texas, Well, great email, Rocky,
Speaker 3: appreciate you finding the show and always send us some
Speaker 3: great messages. And no, you'll never catch up to Cory
Speaker 3: Morris sow email as much as you want. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: know those are those some good ones there. Let mean
Speaker 3: you just name all the ones I would name out.
Speaker 3: Those are my starcial extent ration and small but like
Speaker 3: my favorite shows and as far as cliffhangers go, you know,
Speaker 3: it's a different era of TV now, so it's just
Speaker 3: not the same, all right.
Speaker 4: Next we have an email from Brandon Leidel uh Salvation. Hey, Zach,
Speaker 4: just listen to your episode covering Salvation in season nine,
Speaker 4: and I was wondering about Zod and the fact that
Speaker 4: he killed thee and her and their unborn baby. Did
Speaker 4: Zod kill little fetus David Bloom? To my understanding, he
Speaker 4: was the only child of Zod, and in season eight,
Speaker 4: at least we know there won't be a little baby
Speaker 4: Doomsday running around justin food for thought.
Speaker 3: Thanks, you know that's that those are the clones, so
Speaker 3: that's not gonna be the exact And Fiora from Kypton,
Speaker 3: I think that was the bloodline Feora is possessing Lois's body,
Speaker 3: says something about like they couldn't have their own child,
Speaker 3: so they kind of created life.
Speaker 1: Davis. Yes, yes, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4: The power of many and.
Speaker 3: And so that they made Davis Blooms like this this
Speaker 3: this creature you know, so that that that's a separate thing.
Speaker 3: So those are different odds and fioras. Uh, but that'd
Speaker 3: be interesting if like, yeah, I guess, I guess in
Speaker 3: some weird time travel paradox thing you could you know
Speaker 3: that that could have been a version of of that
Speaker 3: Davids Womb. That's that is interesting to think about because
Speaker 3: they say that David Womb was technically zos child. It
Speaker 3: looks just like your father back when they were going
Speaker 3: to bring Sam Webber back to play Zod, which you
Speaker 3: talked about in death on an episode Plastique when he
Speaker 3: was on with me and John Lee Brody. So getting
Speaker 3: shout out to John by Brady for making that happen.
Speaker 3: It was great connected with Sam becoming friends there and
Speaker 3: he made the right choice saying I'm not doing that.
Speaker 3: It's been weird, and you know it's been weird, but
Speaker 3: thanks Brandon.
Speaker 2: All right, and now we have a Facebook messenger from
Speaker 2: Dave Wynn. You know, it never hit me until rewatching
Speaker 2: the twenty Rewatching two thousand and two Spider Man for
Speaker 2: the twentieth time. Lol. That all's Corp Norman Harry is
Speaker 2: very much the influence for Luther Corp. Lionel Lex, the
Speaker 2: rich and powerful father and the son. It never hit
Speaker 2: me until watching Spider Man tonight. It's Lionel and Lex.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I mean I've always seen the Spider Man movies as
Speaker 3: like the movie versions of Smallville, to the point where
Speaker 3: Alan Miles, right, Spider Man two and it's not.
Speaker 1: That yeah wow yeah, yeah wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They're also writing Beatles just too beetlejuice.
Speaker 4: Beatles just look really good.
Speaker 3: Also Shane high Knights.
Speaker 1: So no, absolutely, I mean that's that's the Lex kind
Speaker 1: of line.
Speaker 3: I don't Clark dynamic playing out there in those movies,
Speaker 3: so I uh yeah, I really've always bonded that. I
Speaker 3: think that's a really cool parallel because we never got
Speaker 3: this on the vig stage, but we have that. So
Speaker 3: to me, those ramy Spider movies hold a special place
Speaker 3: in my heart, just the same way Smumble does. All right,
Speaker 3: got non that ema from Rocky Tomlin Hindsight fan writing
Speaker 3: fixing early season problems.
Speaker 1: Here we go.
Speaker 3: Greetings from East Texas. I'm listening to the first few
Speaker 3: seasons of the show podcast now and hearing your take
Speaker 3: on a few things has really brought into question a
Speaker 3: lot of plot holes in our favorite show. First, I
Speaker 3: will address the farm's financial troubles the first few seasons
Speaker 3: of the show. I always took it as the whole
Speaker 3: town was a booming farm town until the meteor shower.
Speaker 3: After that, all the farms were in financial trouble. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's a good theory. Like that most of them were
Speaker 3: bought up by Lionel and the plant was built. Their
Speaker 3: neighbor in subterranean was more of a farm with crops,
Speaker 3: while the kin farm scenms more like a cattle ranch
Speaker 3: more animals than crops. Within the story they told through
Speaker 3: the first few seasons, they probably had to take out
Speaker 3: some loans on the farm after the first meteor shower
Speaker 3: to rebuild, to get back up and never recovered. Perhaps
Speaker 3: it would have made the land unfarmable for years after.
Speaker 3: Now onto the first meteor shower itself. The main problem
Speaker 3: is that the meteor shower that big would have wiped
Speaker 3: out the whole town, maybe even the whole county or
Speaker 3: state if it didn't burn up in the outster. That's true,
Speaker 3: didn't a meteorite kill the dinosaurs? I mean, come on,
Speaker 3: I think he brought up before that. Normally, meteor showers
Speaker 3: are cool events to see a lot of shooting stars,
Speaker 3: never any Armageddon level destruction. That is probably why in
Speaker 3: most Superman origins it's just the ship in Clark's childhood,
Speaker 3: it's pretty normal, another route to still get the Freak
Speaker 3: of the Week format without the same meteor rocks are
Speaker 3: causing everything might have gone like this. His road made
Speaker 3: a bigger ship with lots of Kryptonian lore and experiments
Speaker 3: and amazing technical or kryptonite.
Speaker 1: There is thank you.
Speaker 3: The whole family were in suspended animation with the ship
Speaker 3: is damaged and Clark's pot ejects and lands on the
Speaker 3: Kent Farm. The rest of the ship scatters carras pod
Speaker 3: lands in the lake by the dam lore in anything
Speaker 3: you want to write into existence for the plot, later
Speaker 3: lands in the caves. Clark's bio parents don't survive, their
Speaker 3: pods are destroyed, but all the time technology in such
Speaker 3: lands where the plant would be built by Lionel, so
Speaker 3: luthor Core would then still be running level three experiments
Speaker 3: and a few people would probably still turn into meter
Speaker 3: freaks that way, So it's like a roswell in Mexico.
Speaker 1: Thing like that.
Speaker 3: Next, the size of the town itself. The towns around
Speaker 3: me here in Texas that are true farm towns around
Speaker 3: ten thousand people or less. We were talking about this
Speaker 3: being small towns, but a town with a plant like
Speaker 3: luth Corep plant could be large around twenty thousand. It's small,
Speaker 3: but really had fifty thousand people. Even after the media shower.
Speaker 3: They probably would have had more than one high school.
Speaker 3: And that's a real real small towns high school would
Speaker 3: have only been about two hundred students total. My small
Speaker 3: town of about ten thousand people only had about two
Speaker 3: hundred senior class. So they wrote for a small town
Speaker 3: but said it was much bigger now for everyone's favorite
Speaker 3: season one problem of the windmill scene in Nicodemus. All
Speaker 3: they had to do to fix it was say it
Speaker 3: was just Lina's imagination.
Speaker 4: Just to imagine Nation.
Speaker 1: Running away with me, just my imagination.
Speaker 4: Running did that way?
Speaker 2: Why does it have to happen?
Speaker 1: It was the California reasons, let's keep going.
Speaker 2: Oh really, I would have totally gotten that wrong.
Speaker 3: She said that as a little kid, she hears you
Speaker 3: could see when shovels from the top. It just could
Speaker 3: have was because she just could have been a lot
Speaker 3: of imagination that simple. Now onto Henry Small. I had
Speaker 3: never thought about him being the one to shoot Lionel
Speaker 3: and suspect until I listened to your coverage of the episode,
Speaker 3: which led to an idea. I think he should have
Speaker 3: not been a lot of his real father at all.
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting that they just kind of
Speaker 3: took him at his word when he got that paternity test.
Speaker 3: He could have lied to get close to the Luther's
Speaker 3: to get revenge on what it did him in the past.
Speaker 3: They would have been way better than He just couldn't
Speaker 3: handle a daughter who was already practically an adult and
Speaker 3: a wife. Yeah, that is so true as a very
Speaker 3: wasted character. Patrick Cassidy's good actor, who's on those and Clark,
Speaker 3: He's in a lot of stuff, and that's just a
Speaker 3: very odd subplot. And I wish they just, if he
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna come back at all, have him be the
Speaker 3: guy shot Lionel anyway. Lastly, Chloe's dad was clearly supposed
Speaker 3: to have died in the season four Mere episode, but
Speaker 3: they never confirmed it or mentioned him again. You confirmed
Speaker 3: they forgot they didn't kill him in season six wedding
Speaker 3: episode with Craig Sorry went on so long as always
Speaker 3: enjoyed the show. Also, Tom always wears Rocky the Movie
Speaker 3: sweatshirts or TV shirts on talk Field. That means we
Speaker 3: were friends, right Rocky from Texas? So yes, yes, I agree,
Speaker 3: So yeah, it seems to be seems to be a
Speaker 3: big Rocky fans how only is Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: There you go. Thanks thanks for that email. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of great thoughts there, Rocky.
Speaker 3: I like the Henry small stuff, the the Roswell asked
Speaker 3: Luther core thing would have been interesting with the the
Speaker 3: you know, said the mer shower, but the head generate
Speaker 3: plots for for you know, people, for him to fight
Speaker 3: and ways to make him weak. But yeah, that town
Speaker 3: would have been absolutely biliteratd.
Speaker 4: Yeah all right, as we have a Facebook message from
Speaker 4: James Paul Bishop Hi, Zach, I just wanted to send
Speaker 4: you a quick congratulations on reaching the end of season nine.
Speaker 4: Look forward to what you would come up with for
Speaker 4: season ten. Although it sounds like you aren't ready aren't
Speaker 4: exactly looking forward to it. I think there's a lot
Speaker 4: to like here, particularly the Lowest and Clark relationship this season.
Speaker 4: Congrats again on the current mind Miralestone.
Speaker 3: All right, well, thanks James, and you're probably referencing at
Speaker 3: the end of Lansing I covered Salvation. I was like,
Speaker 3: and it's old own Hill from here. I mean, that's
Speaker 3: Salvation be my favorite episodes. That's kind of went more over.
Speaker 3: That meant there are a lot of There are a
Speaker 3: lot of peaks and values in season ten. I'm looking
Speaker 3: forward to them. But there are a lot of uh,
Speaker 3: fantastic episodes there. So there's there's a lot of fun
Speaker 3: to discuss and I am looking forward to it quite
Speaker 3: a bit. And and Los of Clark's relationship is one
Speaker 3: of those one of those great things.
Speaker 1: It's true.
Speaker 2: All right, And now we have another email from Brandon Litele.
Speaker 2: Uh season rankings. Hey, Zac and Lance and Nick big Nick,
Speaker 2: big guys, but yeah, big big again.
Speaker 3: We don't plan these names. We don't plan to have
Speaker 3: you read the ones or their name in them.
Speaker 2: So you've made it through the end of your season
Speaker 2: nine coverage and the numbers are in. I've gone through
Speaker 2: your scores and tallied up your season rankings.
Speaker 3: Once again, this is fantastic. This is this is this
Speaker 3: stetition department. We have these three department you can shout
Speaker 3: to the Corey Moore, shout out the JJ winna and
Speaker 3: again shout out to Brandon Lytel, and I was I
Speaker 3: was gonna ask him to do this if he had,
Speaker 3: and he did it, I didn't even have to ask.
Speaker 2: All right. Zoch's season rankings first season nine, second season one,
Speaker 2: third season two, fourth, season five, fifth, season three, six,
Speaker 2: season eight, seventh, season four, eighth, season seven, and ninth
Speaker 2: season six. All that's left to see is where season
Speaker 2: ten will land for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would, I would.
Speaker 3: It's interesting to see that that's based off all the
Speaker 3: ratings I gave these each episode every season and how
Speaker 3: it all calculated out. The only thing I would change
Speaker 3: here is I would I would slot it's interesting season five,
Speaker 3: Season three being right in the middle at fifth.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would slap that up probably second, and then slide
Speaker 3: the other ones down, and then that's pretty much how
Speaker 3: it would rank small ble today. Yeah, so nine, three, one, two, five, eight, four, seven, six.
Speaker 2: Yes, Brandon goes on, and I've never given you mine
Speaker 2: for the fear you'll do disregard all future emails. But
Speaker 2: season rankings would go as balls. First season nine, second
Speaker 2: season ten, okay, third season four, all right, stop? Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I see that that is a big difference fourth season two, fifth,
Speaker 2: season three, sixth, season one, seventh, season eight, eighth, season six, ninth,
Speaker 2: season seven, and tenth season five.
Speaker 1: That is pretty low for season five.
Speaker 2: H I hope you when you start season ten that
Speaker 2: you will be kind. I like some of the things
Speaker 2: you clearly don't. I like how all the main characters
Speaker 2: interact with Kat Grant Grant, and I really like most
Speaker 2: of the episodes, yes, even Isis. Thanks again for all
Speaker 2: the hard work you do. Brandon Lytel.
Speaker 3: Thanks Brandon, that's an interesting ranking ten being so high.
Speaker 3: I mean you obviously liked how the end of the season.
Speaker 1: You must have been of those less goals.
Speaker 3: That's right, honestly in season five being so low and
Speaker 3: very interesting interesting stuff. So I have an email from
Speaker 3: Corey Moore end of season nine. Hey, Zach, shout out
Speaker 3: to you Lance and your disciple Nick Ryan.
Speaker 2: Oh disciple, I like that one better disciple.
Speaker 3: Our disciple, big Nick. Great job to you and your
Speaker 3: guests for a very entertaining look at season nine. Excellent
Speaker 3: review of the Salvation episode. Every time you finish reviewing
Speaker 3: a season, I escape into a deep depression. JK lol.
Speaker 3: I don't know how I'll handle life when you finish,
Speaker 3: Winky face gonna be okay. Well, you've changed my opinion
Speaker 3: on season nine. Your positive energy and excitement for season nine,
Speaker 3: it's that quite the persuasion over me. I now upgraded
Speaker 3: the season nine from ninth place to sixth place on
Speaker 3: my season rankings. Before you get all rabid and sacrifice
Speaker 3: me to the small, little litious, let me explain. Season
Speaker 3: nine did have a nice overall season. Pot grown up
Speaker 3: and mature stuff with Leis and Clark was great. It
Speaker 3: was a set heavy season and made me miss the
Speaker 3: farm in real world location. Unfortunately, Chloe continued to be
Speaker 3: unsavory and the season held me hostage waiting for a
Speaker 3: lot of great episodes. It really only has two episodes
Speaker 3: that maybe put them on the best episode list. They
Speaker 3: were Absolute Justice and Salvation. If I was a think
Speaker 3: about on other seasons that each have five or six
Speaker 3: episodes that are true heavy hitter cf the w same
Speaker 3: way about like season like eight for example. For example,
Speaker 3: in my favorite season and best season four, it has
Speaker 3: count them eight episodes with an A grade and no
Speaker 3: spell didn't get in an A grade. Why not long
Speaker 3: live season four? I can't wait for your season ten reviews.
Speaker 3: While await for them, I'm gonna go out buy my
Speaker 3: barn and play some basketball in my jeans and boots.
Speaker 1: Loll up, up and away. No more, zot.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Corey and Janna catch it. He
Speaker 3: was weaving in season nine episode titles in that very
Speaker 3: clever way, as he often does.
Speaker 1: So thanks Corey.
Speaker 4: Indeed, all right, Next, we have an email from just
Speaker 4: Just Carrot sing Oh, I said, is that right?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Email? Is the title of this is Superman costume reveal? Hi, Zach,
Speaker 4: I am just listening to your podcast reacting to the
Speaker 4: costume reveal. I wanted to put my thoughts out, so yeah,
Speaker 4: I agree. This did not excite me the way I
Speaker 4: thought it would. Initially, I thought it was a fake
Speaker 4: photo until I saw James Gunn had posted it. I
Speaker 4: wish it was. I was more excited because I really
Speaker 4: want this movie to be great, and I'm generally excited
Speaker 4: about the DCU what this before?
Speaker 5: After your comment, I do think they purposely chose this
Speaker 5: in order to generate the most conversation, though there are
Speaker 5: elements that I completely love, like the the undamaged parts
Speaker 5: on the bottom and the Kingdom cum logo.
Speaker 4: I don't really have anything to hate here, but I
Speaker 4: just wish we had one unquestioned when when it came
Speaker 4: to this movie. Anyways, I'm still very optimistic about this
Speaker 4: movie and the universe. But we shall see. Ps. You
Speaker 4: can call this movie Superman the movie if you like
Speaker 4: best Jess not.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look there, I think there are a lot of wins.
Speaker 3: I think all of the casting we talked about we
Speaker 3: liked a lot. But so how you looking at that
Speaker 3: Superman suit?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like the new Stuerman suit.
Speaker 2: Nick, it looks I don't have anything to uh compare
Speaker 2: it to.
Speaker 4: That's a no. Everybody translating from translating Big Nick.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, it's just because it's you can speak your mind. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's nothing special.
Speaker 3: You have nothing to compare it to. What are you
Speaker 3: talking about Superman costume?
Speaker 2: Okay, if we are comparing it to O G costumes,
Speaker 2: it is not anything that I'll want to.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Nick.
Speaker 3: That's why I have a seated this table. It's a
Speaker 3: big table too, Yeah, big table of Big Nick. The
Speaker 3: disciple Big Nick. It won't catch on door, I guess
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 2: Now, we got an email from Spencer car Smallville Ratings Watch, Zach.
Speaker 2: I'm a longtime listener and fan of your podcast, Always
Speaker 2: hold on to Smallville. My Smallville story is very similar
Speaker 2: to yours. I was in eighth grade when the show
Speaker 2: started in two thousand and one, and I was an
Speaker 2: avid viewer of the show all the way till it's
Speaker 2: finale in May twenty eleven, and it remains one of
Speaker 2: my all time favorite TV shows. I love the Metropolis
Speaker 2: years of the show and always felt Smallville never got
Speaker 2: it to do when it was airing in those later seasons.
Speaker 2: For these later seasons, you have been doing the ratings watch,
Speaker 2: but have said that Supernatural in particular was doing better
Speaker 2: in the ratings over Smallville. But I wasn't sure if
Speaker 2: that was correct, so I did some research comparing the
Speaker 2: ratings of Smallville against other shows. In the attached document
Speaker 2: you can find my data research and findings and conclusions.
Speaker 2: But basically, Smallville's ratings were higher than the other CW
Speaker 2: shows overall, and far far higher than the aeroverse Check
Speaker 2: out the research and see what you think. Season nine
Speaker 2: is one of my favorite seasons of Smallville, and I
Speaker 2: love the covered so far. Thank you, Up Up, and away.
Speaker 3: Spencer, thanks so much for these statistics. I guess add
Speaker 3: you to the to the Sthetition Setition team because you
Speaker 3: have some fantastic ratings breakdowns of everything, and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: put post you send me some screenshots for that, and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna post all that on our social media so
Speaker 3: people can get to see which you compile their fascinating stuff.
Speaker 3: And yes, small of them was doing great that There's
Speaker 3: a reason I ran ten years, y'all. Yes, they try
Speaker 3: to kill it off on the Friday Night desklot and
Speaker 3: it wouldn't die, so we got a nice even ten years.
Speaker 3: And yeah, the season nine to be one of your
Speaker 3: favorite seasons is great, So thanks so much, Spencer. All right,
Speaker 3: we have an email from Corey Moore Always hold on
Speaker 3: to Future. Hey, I listened to Always Hold on the
Speaker 3: Friday Night Lights and Heroes. I think I've only watched
Speaker 3: three episodes of Friday. Liked it a lot and need
Speaker 3: to start watching it. I love football and drama lol Heroes.
Speaker 3: I watch two seasons. I liked it, but need to
Speaker 3: start over from the beginning. Also, soon the wife, the
Speaker 3: oldest daughter, and myself will be watching the Arrow TV
Speaker 3: show Lance and keV can expect me to send in
Speaker 3: some thoughts on always Hold On to Arrow. I've wanted
Speaker 3: to listen to their podcast for a while now, but
Speaker 3: I've been waiting for the family to watch it with me, Up,
Speaker 3: Up and away always it on two More Stuff, that
Speaker 3: more stuff being your.
Speaker 4: Stuff, Lance, exactly, exactly. I'm excited. Speaking of my stuff,
Speaker 4: it's my turn to read the next email, which is
Speaker 4: from Brandon Litel titled not the Last Son of Krypton. Hey, Zach,
Speaker 4: I just wanted to let you know that since you've
Speaker 4: decided to not count the Candorians from season nine on
Speaker 4: your taliard on the basis of them being clones, you
Speaker 4: might need to subtract two because you did count Laura
Speaker 4: and Zarel in Blue those two were clones as well.
Speaker 4: Love the podcast and you're so close to the end.
Speaker 4: I'm impressed by your dedication and I'm sure it'll be
Speaker 4: bittersweet to finish the podcast. Sincerely, Brandon Little.
Speaker 3: Thanks Brendan, and you mentioned that, and again I know
Speaker 3: DJ doing a so a voice just about that as well,
Speaker 3: So you guys are on top of it when it
Speaker 3: comes to the Candorians and the clones and then not
Speaker 3: counting as the last sons and Daughters of Krypto.
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, and now we have an email from
Speaker 2: Bethany Payne mail bag submission, Hi, Zach and co. Hey,
Speaker 2: that's me. I'm a fairly new lead listener having found
Speaker 2: you from Talkville, but I wanted to thank you for
Speaker 2: how much comfort and joy the podcast has brought me.
Speaker 2: I've been having some scary health stuff going on and
Speaker 2: I'm bedbound, and having this opportunity to hear people being
Speaker 2: excited about the thing I love has been a huge
Speaker 2: source of joy and comforting Nostalgia. Superman has been a
Speaker 2: special interest for me since watching Lois and Clark from
Speaker 2: age eight and Smallville from age nine. Unlike you and
Speaker 2: your friends, I was watching Smallville as a child with
Speaker 2: my dad and brother, not with friends. Being a girl
Speaker 2: in the UK, I didn't have friends interested in Smallville
Speaker 2: to nerd out with. As I watched season four through
Speaker 2: six of Smallville in my early teens, I lived on
Speaker 2: the Krypton site, close fanfit forms, and even did school
Speaker 2: assignments based on the show. However, when life got busy
Speaker 2: at season seven when I was fifteen, I stopped watching
Speaker 2: and hadn't watched since now. Twenty eight. I recently did
Speaker 2: a full rewatch and have absolutely fallen in love with
Speaker 2: seasons eight through ten. Having your commentary has helped me
Speaker 2: understand lots of mythology since I have no exposures on
Speaker 2: comics previously. I think I'm a bit kinder on the
Speaker 2: show based on my ignorance about the history and undying
Speaker 2: love for Klos. My favorite Patreon guest host has got
Speaker 2: to be DJ for his amazing attention to detail and
Speaker 2: thoughtful insight. My favorite semi regular host is Matt Lavin.
Speaker 2: My favorite mix of coasts was probably you, Lance, Matt
Speaker 2: and Rocca, and Requiem. I'm not going to choose between regulars.
Speaker 2: I do love the did we watch this together routine
Speaker 2: with Lance though finally, yes, finally, I am so glad
Speaker 2: that you have finally seen the light regarding Chloe. Can't
Speaker 2: wait for season ten. Please keep the episodes over two hours.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks, Bethany, I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: And I don't know what it is about that that combination,
Speaker 3: but you know me, Lance, Matt and Roca on Requiem, like,
Speaker 3: I got a lot of feedback, but that's really episode
Speaker 3: that specific combination we might have might have that combination
Speaker 3: to get come up in season ten.
Speaker 1: Well, so we'll stay too.
Speaker 3: Maybe another person will join us for that combination as well.
Speaker 3: So uh no that that that's a fun group and
Speaker 3: uh and we had a lot of fun with that one.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: The thanks for your story and uh, you know, I uh,
Speaker 3: I'm glad that. I'm glad that the podcast can provide
Speaker 3: some uh some escape for it.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean that a lot.
Speaker 3: We're entertainment, but we're also kind of there to to
Speaker 3: kind of be a companion through stuff. And I again,
Speaker 3: I I've said this a lot on on on these
Speaker 3: conversations when it comes up, and you know, I've had
Speaker 3: things that I've listened to that you know, and my
Speaker 3: you know, it's silly entertainment people talking about the show,
Speaker 3: but but also it's a nice way to just just
Speaker 3: again escape is the best way I can describe it,
Speaker 3: but escape from kind of whatever whatever you're going through,
Speaker 3: you know, just to bring a little joy. Uh, that's
Speaker 3: what it's all about. And so I'm glad we can
Speaker 3: provide that. And whatever people told me that really warns
Speaker 3: my heart. It's like, you know, what we're doing something.
Speaker 3: Let's do something good here, you know, And and and
Speaker 3: and and so I'm so glad to hear that's helped
Speaker 3: you out. And and again, don't be a stranger. And uh,
Speaker 3: and I'm glad. I'm glad you found some fans. I too,
Speaker 3: was on crypt on site back in the day, lurking around.
Speaker 3: It's so funny. Hell, lot of it were back there,
Speaker 3: and now we're kind of refining, refinding each other, are like,
Speaker 3: who are you?
Speaker 1: Who are you?
Speaker 3: I was there mainly from season three to five, active
Speaker 3: poster and then just kind of lurked there on and
Speaker 3: off for the rest of for the rest of the show.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: Have a Spotify comment from A. J. Smith on episode
Speaker 3: one A seven nine thirteen Warrior. I love listening to Zach,
Speaker 3: Lance and Nick together.
Speaker 1: Okay, big Nick.
Speaker 3: Zach clearly has deep and honest relationship with these regular colors.
Speaker 1: There it is.
Speaker 3: But the interplay between him and Matt for Warrior was
Speaker 3: podcast gold. Yeah, Matt, Matt Truggs will becoming dear friend,
Speaker 3: truly becoming a real close true friend over the course
Speaker 3: of this podcast, and our chemistry and famililarady comes across
Speaker 3: on my much in the same way three of ours do.
Speaker 3: So it's a thanks for the shout out with all
Speaker 3: of us here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank a, j I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
Speaker 4: Continuing another another Spotify comment from aj Smith, this one
Speaker 4: on episode one ninety four, which is season nine, episode
Speaker 4: twenty sacrifice. H Clark wasn't showing her the Beveritashter. Wasn't
Speaker 4: that the printouts from Virgil Swamp.
Speaker 3: This is when he's showing Feora. No, it's the veritat girl,
Speaker 3: because because like she draws the book around in it
Speaker 3: and then lois the book. I think it's just with
Speaker 3: the cliff notes of the veritach ars. This this attempt,
Speaker 3: this X Men movie level of continuity, this ship has
Speaker 3: this amazing.
Speaker 4: You are the finest investigator.
Speaker 2: Need you hate?
Speaker 3: I know right, I can't believe what drawing on that
Speaker 3: is like drawing in the Bible, draw in the veritag
Speaker 3: gerl that is sacrilege. But no, I'm ninety nine percent
Speaker 3: sure that was what Clark showed her there.
Speaker 2: And then we have an email from Jake Cleveland called
Speaker 2: favors Hi always hold on to Smallville fam. I remember
Speaker 2: you guys, saying when Clark said to Chloe, Oliver still
Speaker 2: owes me one where Chloe should have said for what,
Speaker 2: because at that time she still didn't know that Oliver
Speaker 2: was the Green Arrow. But another time, something SIMI what
Speaker 2: happens is when Perry helps Clark and Lois get their
Speaker 2: jobs back and says to Lois, tell Clark, we're even
Speaker 2: because he even helped him a few years years ago.
Speaker 2: I always felt Lois should have been more curious about
Speaker 2: the fact that Clark knew Perry and helped him enough
Speaker 2: that he felt he had to repay Clark for it.
Speaker 2: But anyways, thanks for the pod. It's helped me through
Speaker 2: some rough times.
Speaker 3: Well, thanks for the email, Jake, and again people readering
Speaker 3: hey helped me through rough times.
Speaker 1: That's very hard warming to hear.
Speaker 3: And I'm glad again we can kind of be that
Speaker 3: kind of companion during tough times. And I'll just you know,
Speaker 3: everything I said earlier to Beth and I reiterate to you, Jake,
Speaker 3: So I appreciate that sentiment you communicating that.
Speaker 1: To us, and we're glad we can be there for you.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and as for that, you know, yeah, I that
Speaker 3: is a bottles the Green Narrow thing, because like Chloe
Speaker 3: didn't know and Clark's like, oh yeah, so I don't
Speaker 3: remember exactly what happened in that episode, but I do
Speaker 3: remember it like being like, hey, you the show thought
Speaker 3: that that everybody knew the secret, but no, everybody didn't
Speaker 3: know the secret. As for the lowest thing, I don't
Speaker 3: mind it as much because like Perry doesn't know Clark
Speaker 3: has powers, so he's like, yeah, I was in a
Speaker 3: you know, in a rough spot, and this teenage guy,
Speaker 3: Clark Kent, helped send me on my path a few
Speaker 3: years ago. Like I don't like that, didn't I don't
Speaker 3: think that required an explanation, So I wouldn't equate those
Speaker 3: two things, but it is interesting to point that out.
Speaker 3: And if there's one thing talk about, you know, we
Speaker 3: had the things that somebody asked, like missed opportunity on
Speaker 3: Smallville more Perry White please? I mean Michael McKean's in
Speaker 3: two and a half episodes if he got his voiceover
Speaker 3: in the finale, so would have been great to see
Speaker 3: more of him. All right, I have an email from
Speaker 3: Brandon Idle crisis, Hello, Zach Nick and Lance. I was
Speaker 3: just thinking about Tom Willings, Clark Kent, and chrisis on
Speaker 3: Infant Ears and its connection to Requiem in season eight
Speaker 3: of Smallville. I was fine with what they chose to
Speaker 3: do with his character in Crisis, but it blows my
Speaker 3: mind that the same people who did what they did
Speaker 3: in Requiem, which is my personal least favorite episode of
Speaker 3: the series, didn't take the opportunity to have Clark give
Speaker 3: up his powers immediately dun below us get back together
Speaker 3: with Lana.
Speaker 1: She wouldn't be radioactive.
Speaker 4: To itive radio active.
Speaker 3: The writers I know from seasons one to eight of
Speaker 3: the Marvel would have done it. Just wondering what you
Speaker 3: thought about that around the home stretch. Keep it up,
Speaker 3: Randon Lytel, Yeah, I mean that's part of the huge
Speaker 3: problem of the only reason Clark a Lota breaking up
Speaker 3: is because they physically couldn't be the getter because Kriytkinite.
Speaker 3: They didn't make a mature adult decision that hey, we're
Speaker 3: not a couple anymore, because then, of course you think, well,
Speaker 3: Lois is just default second choice. Yeah, and then if
Speaker 3: that opportunity presented itself, which is exactly haven't season eight
Speaker 3: he was gonnakiss Lewis a Lona showed up, He's oh
Speaker 3: never might I don't need more. It's a bad look Clark.
Speaker 3: The show took a while. It took a while, so
Speaker 3: that's why it took so long for them together. There
Speaker 3: they had to just repair all this damage they had done.
Speaker 3: But yeah, now in small Vell season one of the
Speaker 3: comic books, Metallo absorbs all the Kryptnite from Lana. But
Speaker 3: those are not Cannon, and I will not believe that
Speaker 3: they are.
Speaker 4: Okay, we have a five star Apple podcast review from
Speaker 4: Kitty Pixie and it says, running like a like a
Speaker 4: blur to catch up. I'm loving this podcast. Heard about
Speaker 4: talk phill first and heard you as a guest on
Speaker 4: their show, went to your show and having so much fun.
Speaker 4: Knocked out thirty episodes in about two months, and I
Speaker 4: love all the insights on the tally board. Being from Houston, Hey,
Speaker 4: what up? Stand up? I love the references and just
Speaker 4: really relate to my own experience from my smavel first watch.
Speaker 4: My middle name is named after Ilana, so I'm partial
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Speaker 4: of Steel and other super media is so bonus. Five stars.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Edit.
Speaker 4: It took me about a year, but I'm completely caught
Speaker 4: up and have loved all of it. I am now
Speaker 4: anxiously awaiting for the next and final season. It's been
Speaker 4: a great ride and I have found other great podcasts
Speaker 4: because of this one. Always hold on to this podcast.
Speaker 1: Maybe other great podcasts like Always on the.
Speaker 3: Aarrow maybe yeh hey cool Phil Heustonian. Yeah, and apparently
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Speaker 2: All right now, we got a Facebook message from Jeff Gordon.
Speaker 4: Jeff go on.
Speaker 2: I spent my young adult life thirteen to nineteen living
Speaker 2: vicariously through the adventures of my favorite heroes on TV
Speaker 2: Smallville season one through five, being paramount to that. Life
Speaker 2: has gone tough of late, and I'm feeling a little lost,
Speaker 2: but always feel a bit safer and home with Smallville.
Speaker 2: Thank you for keeping it alive.
Speaker 3: Oh, thanks Jeff. And again another heartfelt sentiment from a listener.
Speaker 3: And sorry feeling lost man. And hopefully we again we
Speaker 3: can provide you some joy, some laughs, you know, some
Speaker 3: some good vibes going through it. And you know we've
Speaker 3: said this before, lances of people. Everybody need somebody to
Speaker 3: talk to, We're here. Yeah, so just shoots a message,
Speaker 3: shoots an email. I know that we don't respond to
Speaker 3: things timely matter. We usually save them for the mail back.
Speaker 3: Just as a listener myself, I guess I would rather
Speaker 3: wait and oh cool they're reading my message on the
Speaker 3: air than like say hey, thanks for the email and
Speaker 3: not respond yes, but yeay if somebody sends us something
Speaker 3: with time since itv and as you the listeners out there,
Speaker 3: not that sometimes I have sent responses to things, please
Speaker 3: do so right, So we're always here, We're always willing
Speaker 3: to talk, We're happy to to chat and uh, just
Speaker 3: thanks for the messag Jeff, and don't be a stranger.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: We have another Spotify comment on Superman Special number thirty
Speaker 3: three Superman twenty twenty five update ten set photos from
Speaker 3: Jaskrits seeing who likes commenting on Spotify. Please, hey, guys,
Speaker 3: please I encourage Jaskrit's left.
Speaker 1: A few comments. Yeah, yeah, go comment on Spotify.
Speaker 3: It's fun to get more comments the episode specific stuff
Speaker 3: like that. So this time they said the problem with
Speaker 3: moving forward with Hindy Cavell, which it still would have
Speaker 3: led to a boycott from hardcore Snyder fans. I guess
Speaker 3: there is a sub section of that feels like, maybe,
Speaker 3: you know, if Henry Cavill does something that Zack Snander's
Speaker 3: up in vault with and they don't want to go
Speaker 3: support it or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I.
Speaker 3: Think Look, James Gunn was very clear that he didn't
Speaker 3: want to carry over anything from the previous universe except
Speaker 3: for all the things that he went followed with all
Speaker 3: his friends, family and TV shows and movies.
Speaker 1: Yes, because we are.
Speaker 3: We are keeping the suicide squad, keeping Amanda Waller, We're
Speaker 3: keeping peacemates and everything else is going very Yah average viewer,
Speaker 3: that is very not surprising, but also wow, how would
Speaker 3: you explain that to normal people, not like us who
Speaker 3: watch this stuff?
Speaker 2: Let me think I'm just bringing my friends.
Speaker 1: Caro Lance will explain.
Speaker 4: I mean, he could be explained with one simple question.
Speaker 1: Do you really want to? Do you really want to
Speaker 1: taste it?
Speaker 2: All? Right?
Speaker 4: So we have a Facebook message from Dave when Zach
Speaker 4: was it just me? Or did Michael not seem happy?
Speaker 4: Was that just the way it was edited? By the way, Love,
Speaker 4: you got to mention the glasses to Tom loved his
Speaker 4: middle thing finger truthful answer. I was just hoping you
Speaker 4: get to say it to Tom? What is so bad
Speaker 4: about glasses? I knew Tom's no fly stance, but why
Speaker 4: would an actor not welcome an evolution. I'd understand not
Speaker 4: being in tights, but glasses.
Speaker 3: No, Michael's just always that way on Tokville, y'all. That's
Speaker 3: just how he hits talked about. It's, you know, and
Speaker 3: I would have loved to unpack you know, that answer
Speaker 3: more with Tom. That was kind of my last minute
Speaker 3: out the door question. Yeah, uh there. So I was
Speaker 3: just happy that I got the answer I did, and
Speaker 3: you know, Tom puts some more thought into it. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's an episode that's like a couple of seasons away,
Speaker 3: and he specifically remember that. And I always had always
Speaker 3: and I of course concourage you ever going to go
Speaker 3: check out my apparents on my latest appearance on Talk
Speaker 3: because I've been a flaid it once Hidden season five,
Speaker 3: episode three, and I took that opportunity to say, Hey, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Michael, you're wearing glasses right now, Tom, You're not.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you do you know, did they ever ask you
Speaker 3: to wear glasses that you do not want to wear glasses?
Speaker 3: And he and he told the story that he tells
Speaker 3: and he intentionally pushed his glasses up the middle finger
Speaker 3: in a scene. I've seen some discourse about that on Reddit.
Speaker 1: It's funny.
Speaker 3: I got read thread about it. Somebody started like this
Speaker 3: question right, and somebody said, huh, I wonder why the
Speaker 3: director of the episode didn't notice that and stop him.
Speaker 3: And of course the joke is Tom directed that episode.
Speaker 1: So no stuff. And you know what, I kind of
Speaker 1: it's like, you know what, it's his.
Speaker 3: Thing, it's and he gave us thirty seconds a season
Speaker 3: with classes basically, and he just ates classes. And I
Speaker 3: always expected you did, and that was so cool to
Speaker 3: get that answer. But no, Michael is just always that way,
Speaker 3: at least these days on Talk Fville. Let's buy my
Speaker 3: my read of it. It was great to be on
Speaker 3: again and talk to both of them, and I appreciate
Speaker 3: all the time they give me and getting to interact
Speaker 3: with them for a little bit. But but yeah, that's
Speaker 3: just that's the nothing out of ordinary for Michael as
Speaker 3: far as I as far as I've seen on talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All right, and now we have another email from Maurice.
Speaker 1: People call me Maurice, yo.
Speaker 2: That's from No, I don't he'll be etance.
Speaker 4: He's on his own.
Speaker 2: Long time.
Speaker 1: I'm a joker. I'm a midnight tooker. Oh that's my
Speaker 1: music on the run or whatever mess.
Speaker 2: How does it feel? Zach emails titled long Time No
Speaker 2: Readay Zach, Lance and Fam. How's it going since you've
Speaker 2: taken a super extended break for Smallville. I've been getting
Speaker 2: my fix in at Always hold on to Arrow with
Speaker 2: Lance and keV. Oh really shout out to Lance and
Speaker 2: keV for having the best Arrow podcast, where they also
Speaker 2: review Hallmark and movies that may may or may not
Speaker 2: have to do with Arrow. I just finished the episode
Speaker 2: on Scream six, so I have some catching up to do.
Speaker 2: I'll email them soon. Anyhoo, what did you guys think
Speaker 2: about the new DCAU Crisis Unfitted Earth's trilogy? Do you
Speaker 2: think Batman will ever get the blue and gray suit
Speaker 2: and live action? Who do you think has the best
Speaker 2: anime rivalry? Goku versus Vegeta, Decu versus Baku go U
Speaker 2: Gi versus Setto Hero versus x Dom versus Master Asia.
Speaker 2: Feel free to comment on those others that I missed. PS.
Speaker 2: Michael wasn't too happy when you said you like season
Speaker 2: nine now was hilarious. I felt your enthusiasm for the
Speaker 2: show until the next battle bag your fan, Maurice.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take someone to Lance you you can take
Speaker 3: some of these other ones. Yes, I don't have the
Speaker 3: answer to as you know I did. I have yet
Speaker 3: to watch the DCAU Crisis, so well, it's not really
Speaker 3: d c a U.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's ya.
Speaker 3: That's it's that's that's a separate DCU is his own thing.
Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying. The animated christ On Infernerse trilogy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 4: I just haven't.
Speaker 1: Gotten to it. I know.
Speaker 3: There's like I was really excited it was gonna be like,
Speaker 3: uh Wilferdell and Kevin Conroy, Mark Hamill, but I mean
Speaker 3: they're all in it for like two minutes eas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So.
Speaker 1: I haven't really been watching the Tomorrow Verse, That's what
Speaker 1: that is.
Speaker 3: Right, So well, I thought about watching it, new a
Speaker 3: Superman special on it, but it's like I found that,
Speaker 3: like you know what podcast see, it takes time, takes work.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not gonna do thing some like excited
Speaker 3: or passionate about and eventually we'll.
Speaker 1: Probably talk about at some point, but no, I have
Speaker 1: you watched him?
Speaker 2: We know Nick has it, so yeah, wait, which one
Speaker 2: is infinite earths.
Speaker 3: That it just came out. Okay, Yeah, it's a three
Speaker 3: part thing that just came out. So anyway, so that's something. Uh.
Speaker 3: Do you think Batman will ever get the blue and
Speaker 3: gray susent life action?
Speaker 4: Unfortunate unfortunately had it.
Speaker 3: It was in the flash and it looks terrible now.
Speaker 3: Regardless of that, Adam West had it and that was
Speaker 3: of a certain kind and for that it was great.
Speaker 3: It seems like something that James Gun might do. But
Speaker 3: I have no interest in seeing the Batman and the
Speaker 3: Gun verse because I want the Batman.
Speaker 1: I want the Matt Reeves Batman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't want this other silly Batman who's
Speaker 3: he's gonna have.
Speaker 1: Damian Wade is ravin.
Speaker 3: Uh, but I don't know what do you think Lancy
Speaker 3: would Would the Batman brave in the bowl of that
Speaker 3: movie happens?
Speaker 1: Will he be blue and gray?
Speaker 4: It wouldn't surprise me if he was.
Speaker 3: If nothing else to different differentiate, Yes, for that purpose,
Speaker 3: and I'll let you take him with three.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The best anime rivalry to me, it's Goku and
Speaker 4: Vegeta Deku and Baku go Ugi and setto was interesting.
Speaker 4: It gave us some very interesting and very cool fun memes.
Speaker 4: They like the Ugi and Cetto stuff is really good,
Speaker 4: like memewise.
Speaker 2: But I have money, it should have been me not.
Speaker 4: I used that a lot.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Hero z X was good, but I don't know. They
Speaker 4: weren't really rivals per se. They were like they're kind
Speaker 4: of ops to each other in certain situations and then
Speaker 4: don't know, versus Master Asia, it's not it.
Speaker 2: Would you well go Coo versus Vegeta became a rivalry
Speaker 2: to a friendship, and I think that's really.
Speaker 4: But they still maintained but they are trying to each other,
Speaker 4: which is it's a consistent thing that that lasts the
Speaker 4: entire show and continue still that's the that's the iconic
Speaker 4: thing that those two for sure.
Speaker 1: Thank you for your question.
Speaker 3: Now you're ps here about Michael not being too happy,
Speaker 3: but I said, I like season nine, I thought he
Speaker 3: might react that way. So I was very pleased to
Speaker 3: get a rise because no, see you couldn't see it
Speaker 3: because it said it, and when I'm on there, I
Speaker 3: see everybody.
Speaker 1: So Tom was laughing at that because I see it.
Speaker 3: I know Tom gets gets a kick out of like
Speaker 3: like even I was like, hey, it's almost ten years Tom, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: because whenever Michael's like for seven years and Michael's like, well,
Speaker 3: ten years. It's it's it's funny that that Tom always
Speaker 3: like points out like, well I was there for ten
Speaker 3: right versus the seven Anyway, that's why because it was
Speaker 3: season five and I, like, I've said here when I
Speaker 3: was on there, I said, you know, when I was
Speaker 3: watching the show, season five, I would have said, he
Speaker 3: was season five is my favorite season. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like yeah, Alan Miles, the creator of the show, have
Speaker 3: said that, and I said season three is a great season,
Speaker 3: Season ninth, great season.
Speaker 2: Well, season no, I it wasn't in that, how dare you?
Speaker 3: And I said, I'm looking for you guys get in there.
Speaker 3: I'm not, which I think that's why people.
Speaker 1: Get the upset.
Speaker 3: But that's how he is on top Philly. Also, anyway,
Speaker 3: I'm glad people respondible all that. So so thank thanks Maris.
Speaker 3: Thanks for pointing those things out.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: Email from Alan Donahue, long time no read, Hey, Zach
Speaker 3: Lance and the guy who abandoned Small.
Speaker 2: I still have one more season to catch up. So
Speaker 2: one more season, I mean, you've had this show and
Speaker 2: catch up, you know.
Speaker 3: People email me all the times like oh it's the
Speaker 3: whole show in a couple of months.
Speaker 1: You you've had eight years, I know.
Speaker 2: I keep reading that.
Speaker 3: Anyway, some of my favorite episodes have always gone the
Speaker 3: Star Wars shout out to those guys or the draft episodes.
Speaker 3: I was wondering if you ever considered the format for
Speaker 3: the Smallville pod. It would be awesome to hear you, guys,
Speaker 3: draft seasons of the show, book adaptations, Freaks of the Week,
Speaker 3: Superman based guest stars, et cetera, and other elements. Hope
Speaker 3: to see this in the future. I don't think we'll
Speaker 3: do that in particular format, Alan, but we do have
Speaker 3: some fun stuff that that's you know, obviously we're gonna
Speaker 3: wrap up our episode by episode coverage, but the podcast
Speaker 3: is going to continue in different forms and fashions, and
Speaker 3: so we'll have some fun stuff for every body then. So,
Speaker 3: but yeah, shout out to the always on the Star
Speaker 3: Wars guys. Yes, I know sometimes they feel like they
Speaker 3: don't get all the love that some of the other
Speaker 3: shows get. Yes, make sure, uh you know those guys
Speaker 3: there that they set out to cover canon the new
Speaker 3: Candon of Star Wars. Right, The problem is all this
Speaker 3: new stuff keeps coming out and it's really thrown off
Speaker 3: their moment because they're covering in week to week and
Speaker 3: it's it's a grind to do stuff like that. Sure,
Speaker 3: So so shout out to those guys, and if you're
Speaker 3: looking for some positive, level headed Star Wars conversation, I
Speaker 3: highly recommend always on.
Speaker 1: The Star Wars.
Speaker 4: Indeed. All right, Next, we have a Facebook message from
Speaker 4: Josh Duncan as someone who's a huge Smovel fan. Have
Speaker 4: you ever found a show that gave you the same
Speaker 4: vibe or something else you would recommend to people? If
Speaker 4: you're someone that loves Smavel as much as I do,
Speaker 4: I probably gonna like what else you connect with?
Speaker 3: Well, Lance, you might answer this better than me. But
Speaker 3: the only thing that I could really immediately identified with
Speaker 3: like this Merlin. Yeah, I watched some I think what
Speaker 3: we watched?
Speaker 1: What the first season?
Speaker 3: I watched all of that scattering of episodes. Now you
Speaker 3: stuck with the whole thing.
Speaker 4: I did, and uh four seasons?
Speaker 1: That was it? Yeah, always on to Merlin. What do
Speaker 1: you say?
Speaker 2: I don't think I ever watched it. That'd be really
Speaker 2: interesting to have about the person now.
Speaker 3: But but you understand why you say that though, because
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is like British small Ville. It's
Speaker 3: like he his best friend is is King Arthur Merlin's
Speaker 3: the main character. He looks just like a British clerk.
Speaker 3: He has like a blue shirt and a red scarf.
Speaker 4: Anyway, he has to hide his magic from from Arthur.
Speaker 3: He goes to a cave to talk to a dragon,
Speaker 3: much like the Quatch Kids.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of all, No, I know there's lots of other
Speaker 3: shows and like superhero shows.
Speaker 4: Le Lu's in it, from freaking Leena Luthor.
Speaker 3: From Supergirls in it. So that's my answer. Now, I
Speaker 3: haven't seen the whole thing, but like nothing else has
Speaker 3: just slapped me in the faces like this is small Ville.
Speaker 1: Yeah that would you agree?
Speaker 4: No, that's that's pretty spot on.
Speaker 3: And it's on a lot of streaming service and when
Speaker 3: I'm not you know, dated with television shows like m
Speaker 3: right now, I might check it out. Always saw on
Speaker 3: the Marlin puting on the list of the shows that
Speaker 3: we probably never do as a podcast because sometimes it's.
Speaker 1: Just nice to watch stuff.
Speaker 4: Yes, agree, I mean, but also.
Speaker 3: It's fun, like all we're gonna watch this, we're gonna
Speaker 3: talk about it's a different joy.
Speaker 1: It is it's a different joy all right.
Speaker 2: Now we have an email from Joshua EM's Smallville. Hey, Zach, Lance,
Speaker 2: Nick Ryan, et cetera. As an update, I'm finally caught
Speaker 2: up on the podcast and I've finished watching the show.
Speaker 2: I now just watch as you release episodes, and I've
Speaker 2: just got into the habit of listening to you after
Speaker 2: Talkville updates. I enjoyed hearing you on again. Glad you
Speaker 2: got to ask them about where the name of your
Speaker 2: podcast comes from. I knew Michael wouldn't know, and wasn't
Speaker 2: surprised as that Tom new I always walk away knowing
Speaker 2: more from your podcast than theirs. But their point of
Speaker 2: view is nice as well, even though I think it's
Speaker 2: pretty obvious that Rosenbaum doesn't the show very much. Anyway.
Speaker 2: Hope all is well, enjoying that Houston humidity, Oh man,
Speaker 2: Yes we are. It'll be interesting to see how your
Speaker 2: Astros and my Dodgers do this season.
Speaker 1: Oh, your Dodgers.
Speaker 3: So I thought we were friends, Josh, Josh, Thanks Josh,
Speaker 3: you know it would be great. Is kind of the
Speaker 3: series finale for the Astros dynasty here if we played
Speaker 3: you guys in the world series and beat you again,
Speaker 3: I would love to see that. Unfortunately, I don't think
Speaker 3: you guys are gonna get out the first or second
Speaker 3: round the playoffs, despite how many billions of dollars. So
Speaker 3: how do you get show you Tony and are somehow worse?
Speaker 3: That's all I need to do. So anyway, I say
Speaker 3: that with love, Josh. I appreciate your email, and it's
Speaker 3: all good fun and really, you know what, we can
Speaker 3: have some fun much back and forth to the Astros
Speaker 3: in a playing the Dodgers again of the playoffs. I
Speaker 3: would look forward to that. But like Chris freeks to
Speaker 3: be Yankees fan. So it's it's it's fun.
Speaker 1: We talked. We took our smack as well.
Speaker 3: It's fun to have friends who are fans of the
Speaker 3: other teams and kind of give you that extra level
Speaker 3: of investment in these in these matchups, even more.
Speaker 1: So than usual.
Speaker 3: All Right, we have an email from Tarn and Hammel
Speaker 3: titled Mailbag twenty twenty four. Greetings, Programs. I've been a
Speaker 3: long time listener, and while we've interacted a few times
Speaker 3: over Twitter, I figured I finally sent in a letter
Speaker 3: for the mailbag so I can congratulate you in your
Speaker 3: wonderful co host on finally reaching it to season ten.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite things about listening to your show
Speaker 3: is hearing the smallvel journey each guest has gone on,
Speaker 3: so I thought i'd share my own. I've been a
Speaker 3: lifelong small move fan. I was lucky enough to grow
Speaker 3: up with the DCAU cartoons. In the first Chris to
Speaker 3: Reef movie. Along with Superman Returns, I eventually discovered reruns
Speaker 3: of Lois and Clark airing every night on a channel
Speaker 3: in the UK called IV two. This show further strengthened
Speaker 3: my love for the character and his ensemble. I remember
Speaker 3: sitting down one night hoping to find out what happened
Speaker 3: after a Cliffhanger had left a baby on Lois and
Speaker 3: Clark' storre step, only to find metamorphouss.
Speaker 1: Well. I'd been waiting for a resolution to that Lows
Speaker 1: and Clark Cliffhanger. In some ways, I'm still waiting.
Speaker 3: I happily latched onto this young Superman show that I'd
Speaker 3: always been curious about. Before this, I caught glimpses of
Speaker 3: the show, such as the ending of Jinks or the
Speaker 3: middle parts of episodes like Mortal and Subterranean, but this
Speaker 3: is my first time watching the show consistently. The colorful
Speaker 3: box art and the DVD's off DVDs always caught my eye,
Speaker 3: and anytime I'd spot them in the wild too. ITV
Speaker 3: two unfortunately only heared the first three seasons of Smallville,
Speaker 3: and then not even the complete seasons, as it was
Speaker 3: many years before I even watched the pilot or the
Speaker 3: finale to season three. I wanted to watch more and
Speaker 3: bought season five on DVD. Of course, I had no
Speaker 3: idea until much later what seasons I'd seen up until
Speaker 3: that point, and so had to guess alast. That seemed
Speaker 3: to me the end for a few years, until I
Speaker 3: stumbled upon the Legion episode of season eight. While it
Speaker 3: was almost the death of Zach's interest in the show,
Speaker 3: season eight reunited my love for Smallville, and as one
Speaker 3: of the reasons I have such a fondness for it.
Speaker 3: After I went back and watched the rest of that season,
Speaker 3: I caught up on all the others just in time
Speaker 3: to see the premiere of season nine, and I was
Speaker 3: able to catch the last few years of the show
Speaker 3: as it aired. Now I love to talk about how
Speaker 3: I discovered you guys. This email has gone on long enough,
Speaker 3: and I think I'll save that story for next time.
Speaker 3: Thanks for hearing me ramble, and I'm looking forward to
Speaker 3: the new season of content. All the best, Tea, Hammel Well,
Speaker 3: thanks for writing in. And yeah, we've interacted on Twitter
Speaker 3: quite a few times over the years, and and I
Speaker 3: know that that's a fun story. Everybody has a different
Speaker 3: journey to small and that's that's certainly a new unique one.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine just just getting random episodes. And I
Speaker 3: mean we're so spoilt today, right, I mean, in this
Speaker 3: day and age, everything is streaming everywhere. But even even
Speaker 3: not too long ago, guys, it wasn't that easy. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I really really appreciate email their tea Hammle. All right, Lance,
Speaker 3: we have the final message, all right of the mailbag,
Speaker 3: and I'm trusting you to read it.
Speaker 4: Okay, I appreciate it. I appreciate your trust. All right.
Speaker 4: It is from mister Keith falls Uh titled mailbag episode
Speaker 4: for the actual number one Smallville Rewatch podcast. You know what,
Speaker 4: I agree with that already.
Speaker 2: I like this.
Speaker 4: I like the actual number one small Vil Rewatch podcast.
Speaker 4: Dear Zach and Lance, if he's there, I am, I'm
Speaker 4: reading the email.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 4: First, I want to apologize for the novel I'm about
Speaker 4: to write, but I feel like I need to give
Speaker 4: some context first. I've been listening to the pod since
Speaker 4: you posted your episode on Legacy. I found it after
Speaker 4: Craig from krypton site shared the link for it, and
Speaker 4: I haven't looked back since. I'm able to listen at
Speaker 4: work and binge all your episodes and was caught up
Speaker 4: by the time you got to Covenant that first time.
Speaker 4: Having to wait for a new episode made for a
Speaker 4: long week lol. Smallvill has always been had a special
Speaker 4: place in my heart. I started watching the pilot with
Speaker 4: my parents when back when a premiere in two thousand
Speaker 4: and one. I had some experience with Superman though the
Speaker 4: animated through the animated series, but was a huge Batman
Speaker 4: van as a kid. That hasn't changed Rip Kevin Conray,
Speaker 4: I was hooked after the pilot. We'd watch it every
Speaker 4: week together as a family. We had a special dinner
Speaker 4: that we would make and everything. Tempest was my first
Speaker 4: experience with a proper season finale, and eleven year old
Speaker 4: me was not prepared for the three month break in
Speaker 4: between seasons. I learned the hard way that that summer
Speaker 4: I was an only child, and in season two, when
Speaker 4: Martha was pregnant, my mom was pregnant with my little
Speaker 4: sister at the same time. It really made me connect
Speaker 4: even more with the show. I was going to be
Speaker 4: a big brother, just like Clark was. Thankfully we had
Speaker 4: a happier ending than the kids. She was a happy,
Speaker 4: healthy baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It started to get worried there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, right. And she was born on the
Speaker 4: highs between Fever and Rosetta, so we didn't miss an episode.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that they were born.
Speaker 4: That's good. Then all four of us sat down to
Speaker 4: watch as a family, as often family issues, but I
Speaker 4: never missed an episode until I graduated high school. It
Speaker 4: was safe here by the way. We all watched the
Speaker 4: finale together though, and even if I was a little
Speaker 4: disappointed Tom didn't wear the suit, we never had a chance.
Speaker 4: I liked it and things really came full circle for
Speaker 4: me on October sixteenth, twenty twenty one, when I was
Speaker 4: at Smallville Nights with Tom and Michael on the twentieth
Speaker 4: anniversary of the premiere. Ten year old me would wouldn't
Speaker 4: have believed I'd be in the same room as Clark
Speaker 4: Kent and Lex Luthor twenty years later. I even got
Speaker 4: them to sign my season one DVD set.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 4: Oh that wasn't long winded, but I get told sometimes
Speaker 4: that I tell long stories. With that being said, I
Speaker 4: just wanted to say thank you. I love being able
Speaker 4: to turn on an episode and listen to good discussions
Speaker 4: and debate with people who also have a love for
Speaker 4: the show. Even with the not so good episodes of
Speaker 4: Smallville Sleeper the absolute worst says down there, I'm always
Speaker 4: looking forward to hearing your episode about it. It always
Speaker 4: feels like I'm sitting down with a bunch of friends
Speaker 4: to talk Marvel or Arrow. Shout out to Lance and
Speaker 4: keV shout out. I appreciate it and have a good
Speaker 4: time even though I'm just listening, even if my opinion
Speaker 4: on the episode differs from Zach and the guest almost
Speaker 4: all bes for Requiem question market that was wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good Anthony MLF.
Speaker 4: I know, Look, we had a good time.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was a still sucks.
Speaker 4: We had a good time. I think that's what it was.
Speaker 4: We're just we're just vibing, man, You're just vibing. I
Speaker 4: love seeing another perspective on the show. Some days I'll
Speaker 4: listen in the car after a rough day and after
Speaker 4: laughing at something you guys were joking about or poking
Speaker 4: fun at one of the goofy decisions on uh that
Speaker 4: Smallville would make. Some times, I'll be in a better
Speaker 4: mood by the time I get home. I've thought about
Speaker 4: riding in for other mailback episodes for both Smallville and Arrow,
Speaker 4: but I feel like i'd ramble on and usually see
Speaker 4: the mailbag come out before I ride in. I'm going
Speaker 4: to wrap up before I ramble on any further. Thank
Speaker 4: you for the hard work and dedication you put into
Speaker 4: doing the podcast for almost a decade, and the countless
Speaker 4: hours of enjoyment and laughs I've had listening. Always hold
Speaker 4: on to Smallville and Always hold on to Arrow are
Speaker 4: my two favorite podcasts, and there all are an A
Speaker 4: plus and a bullseye and three roses. That's the most.
Speaker 4: That's the worst rating system.
Speaker 1: By the way, argue with that.
Speaker 4: Thank you guys for keep kicking gass. Keith, Well, thank you, Keith.
Speaker 1: That's a great message. Keith.
Speaker 4: Don't feel bad about what you think you might think
Speaker 4: we might think about writing in. Feel free to email
Speaker 4: in you emailed here email Always hold out an arrow too.
Speaker 4: We'd love to hear your thoughts on an arrow as well.
Speaker 1: No, that's that's a great message. End on me.
Speaker 3: And again that's uh, you know, kind of the mission
Speaker 3: stave of this podcast was like we're all sitting around
Speaker 3: the lunch table talking with our friends, right, that's kind
Speaker 3: of bringing back bringing back that vibe. And truly, you know,
Speaker 3: I have a big great friends doing this, and it's
Speaker 3: always fun to interact with listeners.
Speaker 1: And it's a two way street, you know.
Speaker 3: And and you know, I say like, yeah, we still
Speaker 3: do it if we don't know any listeners, I mean
Speaker 3: we would, but it wouldn't be nearest as fun. So
Speaker 3: uh no, that's that's a great one to That's a
Speaker 3: great one to end on Keith. And I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: And I recognize you've comment on things in our social
Speaker 3: media and so before. So thanks for writing in it.
Speaker 3: Don't be a stranger.
Speaker 1: You keep writing in.
Speaker 3: I encourage everybody, you know what I mean, long short,
Speaker 3: you know, anything you want to share, just just right in.
Speaker 3: It's it's always fun to see these come through the inbox,
Speaker 3: and it's fun of ust all reading together. And and yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's a great. H that's a great one to
Speaker 3: end on. So we don't plan it this way is
Speaker 3: how it all shakes out. So yeah, that's gonna wrap
Speaker 3: it up for mail Bag thirteen, Part two, Part two.
Speaker 3: The lance of people want to find you out there online?
Speaker 3: Where can they find you?
Speaker 4: They can find me at Sir Lance Laster on all
Speaker 4: of my social media's and you can find me talking
Speaker 4: about all the things that make Arrow arrow on Always
Speaker 4: hold on to Arrow, And you can find myself and
Speaker 4: keV on Twitter at Do Not.
Speaker 2: Fail Our Pod and you guys can find me on
Speaker 2: Twitter at Nick Ryan or Instagram at Nick Ryan dot jpg.
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