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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Jim Suler with Texas Scratch and George

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<v Speaker 1>Thurroughgood and the Destroyers. You're listening to Doctor Sky Experience

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<v Speaker 1>on Talk Radio seventy seven WABC.

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<v Speaker 2>and weather with great musical accent, musical guest and celebrit

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<v Speaker 2>the act in the mix. And you know, folks, today

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<v Speaker 2>a very special guest on the line. We're talking to

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<v Speaker 2>a gentleman who knows so much about blues and we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a group called Texas Scratch. They're made up

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<v Speaker 2>of three born and bred Texan guitarists, Jim Schuler from Dallas,

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<v Speaker 2>Buddy Woodington from Fort Worth, Dan's Converse from Houston. This

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<v Speaker 2>mighty threesome of big dog guitar slingers takes no prisoners

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to red hot guitar performances, both live

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<v Speaker 2>and in studio. This trio of six string guitar beasts.

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<v Speaker 2>They're accompanied ladies and gentlemen on the album by Druffer

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Simon and bassist Nathaniel Peterson. Both find musicians in

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<v Speaker 2>their own right. The combined effors that resulted in a

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<v Speaker 2>debut album consisting of obviously fiery, passionate guitar licks everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>you turn, soaked in the blues and kicked in the

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<v Speaker 2>ass by the blues rock. They all love to play.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that, let's introduce our very special guest today

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<v Speaker 2>as we talk to our very good friend here, ladies

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<v Speaker 2>and gentlemen on the Pharaoen the phone, Jim Schuler. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for joining us here on the Doctor Skuy Experience. How

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<v Speaker 2>are you today? Life right?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me

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<v Speaker 1>on your show. It's a pleasure to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>celestial mix.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I love that, my friend, and you know, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you a little bit later. We're headed, as

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<v Speaker 2>you probably know, down to the great state of Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>But the big Total Solier E Cliffs that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>take place, I don't know if you're aware of this.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many events happening in Texas at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>How about this. We're going to be down Jim at

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<v Speaker 2>the Tech Music Festival in a little tiny down off

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<v Speaker 2>Interstate ten called Junction, Texas. We can celebrate with great

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<v Speaker 2>Texans and music fans alike about all the things that

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<v Speaker 2>they love about the blues. You know, it's incredible with

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<v Speaker 2>Texas great blues artists like Stevie, ray Vaughn, Billy Gibbons,

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<v Speaker 2>Freddy King, and so much more. Talk to us how

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<v Speaker 2>Texas Scratch got started. Because you've got a brand new album,

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<v Speaker 2>Texas Scratch, and who doesn't love the blue? Was right

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<v Speaker 2>by a friend. This is just going to be an

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<v Speaker 2>exciting conversation. Well, we love it here and in Texas. There's,

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<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned, a great tradition of blues and blues

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<v Speaker 2>guitar in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Growing up here, I, you know, was surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>by an embarrassment of musical wealth. I didn't realize how

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<v Speaker 1>lucky I had it growing up in Dallas, with so

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<v Speaker 1>many great musicians around playing in the clubs. Steenie y

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<v Speaker 1>Vonn was still in clubs you know when I started out.

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<v Speaker 1>Freddie King was it just passed, but he was always

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in at Mother Blues in Dallas, and so this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff was still accessible, you know to a neophyte like

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<v Speaker 1>me at the time. It's a wonderful environment to grow

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<v Speaker 1>up and it's it's rich in all that music. And

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<v Speaker 1>I can't really explain to you why it's all happened here.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess just a convergence of cultures and different peoples.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's it's a great place to learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to do something I was I had a really deep

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<v Speaker 1>interest in.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, absolutely, and I always asked this of every one

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<v Speaker 2>of our musical guests here. You know, you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>guitar and we talk about this, you know, so many

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<v Speaker 2>different iterations, so many wonderful guitars, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>people that make the guitars. Tell us how you got

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<v Speaker 2>started in the whole love of you know, in the

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<v Speaker 2>music world. I mean, it's it's great because so many

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<v Speaker 2>people aspire to be at the high pinnacle of the

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<v Speaker 2>other musical mountain, but seriously, very few make it. But

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<v Speaker 2>how did you get started? And just talk a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about the passion that you have and some of

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<v Speaker 2>the music rates that you look up to even today,

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<v Speaker 2>as you climb that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well I'm still climbing. I don't think you ever

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<v Speaker 1>get to the top, or very few do. But amen,

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<v Speaker 1>I got pardon me, well ahead, no, I said, amen,

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<v Speaker 1>that's awesome. Yeah, excuse me. Then I got Initially my

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<v Speaker 1>first interest in music was ignited by somebody not from Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>the Beatles when I was born in nineteen sixty. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the mid sixties I was very aware of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I lived and died with my little am radio

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<v Speaker 1>and we had a really good top forty station here

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<v Speaker 1>in Dallas called KLIF the Mighty eleven ninety, and they

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<v Speaker 1>played all kinds of stuff enviition of the Beatles. You

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<v Speaker 1>could hear Jimmy Reid, you name it, Petula Clark, anything

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<v Speaker 1>that was on the charts. It was a great education

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<v Speaker 1>for me, and later I got into album orient and

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<v Speaker 1>rock when that became a thing around nineteen seventy, and

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<v Speaker 1>was always a fan of blues rock, and then began

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<v Speaker 1>to research the songs just via the song titles and

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<v Speaker 1>composer credits on the albums. I started to educate myself

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<v Speaker 1>on these artists through buying records and later on reading

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<v Speaker 1>about them in books and even later than that, I

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<v Speaker 1>could go out and meet the few that were maybe

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<v Speaker 1>still around got me on the path. But initially, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was playing guitar, it was classic rock artists in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies that were my inspiration. I wasn't old enough

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a club yet, but I could go

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<v Speaker 1>to concerts and I could go see these Easy Top

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<v Speaker 1>or the Rolling Stones, or Leonard Skinnard or you know

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<v Speaker 1>whoever it was. It's the usual suspects.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing. You know. It's also interesting to talk about another

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<v Speaker 2>band that you've been involved with what so long, If

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<v Speaker 2>I'm correct, you were being a destroyer George Thurgood. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy's awesome. We've met him many times here with concerts.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about that relationship that must be long and deep.

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<v Speaker 2>It truly is.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a fan of George dating back to the

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<v Speaker 1>late seventies when they first released their initial albums on

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<v Speaker 1>Rounder Records. I loved the you know, it was very raw,

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<v Speaker 1>and they, strangely enough got lumped in with the punk

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<v Speaker 1>bands at first. When they went to England, they would

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<v Speaker 1>play at these punk clubs. I think because it was raw,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a typical polished.

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<v Speaker 2>Aor stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the time. And that appealed to me, so I

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<v Speaker 1>kept that in my mind and I saw them play

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<v Speaker 1>open for the Rolling Stones in nineteen eighty one. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would play some of their stuff in my bar bands.

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<v Speaker 1>But I met George in nineteen ninety at Hughey's, a

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<v Speaker 1>nightclub in Memphis. They were recording an album just down

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<v Speaker 1>the street as Ardent Records, and he took a shine

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<v Speaker 1>to me. He liked what I was doing and told

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<v Speaker 1>his producer, Terry Manning about me. And roughly a year later,

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<v Speaker 1>I had some money and I was going to do

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<v Speaker 1>an album. I didn't have a label, so I did

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<v Speaker 1>this album and Terry, fortunately for me, just started his

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<v Speaker 1>own label, so I released it through Terry's label, which

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<v Speaker 1>led to a management contract with George Thoroughgood's manager and

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<v Speaker 1>opening you know, tons of tour dates for George in

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<v Speaker 1>the mid nineties. So fast forward in nineteen ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>they were adding a second guitar player and I was

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<v Speaker 1>asked to join the band and I've been there ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my twenty fifth year.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's impressive because Jim Schuler is our guest here.

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<v Speaker 2>He's with the band. Ladies and Gentlemen going to hear

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<v Speaker 2>so much more about Texas Scratch. These are some red

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<v Speaker 2>hot guitar performances and so many other things that they

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<v Speaker 2>do to put this together. When we talk about Texas

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<v Speaker 2>Blues and the blues. But Jim, when I was down

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<v Speaker 2>there in one of the concerts here in Arizona, we

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<v Speaker 2>had to meet and greet with George. What a great guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And we actually got a copy of some really cool

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<v Speaker 2>blue vinyl that he had on the release there just

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<v Speaker 2>for the people who attended the concert. I'll keep that

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<v Speaker 2>and sure shit because he signed it. So what a

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<v Speaker 2>great guy, what a great story, what a great experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk Texas Scratch. You got the new album Texas

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<v Speaker 2>Scratch Quarto Valley Records. People can get you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing downloaded just forever. Good music is available and

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<v Speaker 2>there's plenty of places for it. Talk about the time

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<v Speaker 2>period to produce this album, because it has an interesting story.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew through COVID and all these other things, there

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<v Speaker 2>was lots of delays. Not your fault at all. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>us the iteration of how this album got together time wise,

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<v Speaker 2>and now it's ready to be heard by everybody out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to hear some examples in just a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of minutes, one specifically that I'm sure you'll love,

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<v Speaker 2>but talk about how the evolution of Texas Cratch. This

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<v Speaker 2>album got together.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a guy named Arnie Goodman who was involved with

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<v Speaker 1>a label there in New York City. Also he owned

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<v Speaker 1>a record or somewhere in the city and music photographer.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's living in Long Island. But this whole

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<v Speaker 1>project was his idea. He knew us all individually and

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<v Speaker 1>thought it would be a great collective, so he brought

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<v Speaker 1>us all together to record and see. We recorded the

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<v Speaker 1>album in two thousand and nine, and I believe the

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<v Speaker 1>conversations about like putting it together it started maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years before that, so this is it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty long incubation period on this obviously. So we

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<v Speaker 1>completed the album and there was an issue with the

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<v Speaker 1>label at the time, so the record was shelved and

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<v Speaker 1>it was shopped at various times in the interim since

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<v Speaker 1>two and nine or twenty ten, when this all became

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<v Speaker 1>apparent and I had given up on it, I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>heard anything about the record in a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>from anybody, and I just it's not that it was

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<v Speaker 1>on a back burner because I was so busy and

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<v Speaker 1>I just figured, well, if it comes out, great, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to even think about it anymore, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>when something will happen. Indeed, what happened. It was released

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<v Speaker 1>late last year, and I learned about it on social media,

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<v Speaker 1>so I wasn't even aware that it was None of

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<v Speaker 1>us knew it was coming out, which is a unique

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<v Speaker 1>marketing strategy. But having set on that, I still connect

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<v Speaker 1>with these songs, and I love the record and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just thrilled to piece as it finally came out. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry it took so long.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's okay, no apology necessary. But there's a little

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<v Speaker 2>backstory to this. If I'm correct. This was done and

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<v Speaker 2>produced in show Place Studios in Dover, New Jersey, and

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<v Speaker 2>being a native New Yorker myself in that area, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for years there's a radio station there that I was

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<v Speaker 2>doing a lot of stuff for WDHA, the Rock of

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<v Speaker 2>North Jersey. Maybe you guys even stopped into those studios,

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<v Speaker 2>into that radio station, But isn't that incredible? So talk

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<v Speaker 2>about show Place studios, and I mean that must to

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<v Speaker 2>be an incredible experience there and even though this is

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<v Speaker 2>a long time ago, what matters most is what they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to hear in this amazing album Texas Scratch and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things I wanted to do right now.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't hear it, but the audience will. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to play this from your new album. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is cool. I think it's track number eight, Ain't Got

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<v Speaker 2>the Scratch, which is actually written to what Buddy Whittington

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<v Speaker 2>wrote this. But here we go, Ain't got the scratch,

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<v Speaker 2>got a little flavor of what Texas scratches all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Front row center, top down the Crowner's cleaning drive a

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<v Speaker 3>home today. The salesman was screaming, I wanted a mad

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<v Speaker 3>but couldn't figure out how to.

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<v Speaker 2>Make those ease.

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<v Speaker 4>It turns half down the rest now, so I'll wire

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<v Speaker 4>up that mumper. I'm putting on that patch. You know

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<v Speaker 4>that I got the itch, but I ain't got the scratch.

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<v Speaker 5>Hot Red lifted, let lesson live. She had it going

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<v Speaker 5>all she had it together.

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<v Speaker 3>With the face of Nann jumping the body of a centafold.

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<v Speaker 4>Look like I schtule maintenance a frequent service interval.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I knew all along that I was way on.

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<v Speaker 4>The mash goes baby, and I got the inch, but

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't got the scratch.

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<v Speaker 1>She could.

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<v Speaker 4>Something catches your eyes and you just gotta have it.

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<v Speaker 3>You better rethink it before your reach out and rabbit,

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<v Speaker 3>before your reach in your pocket and pull out.

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<v Speaker 4>That plastic do y'all have the baby bring that bad habit.

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<v Speaker 5>I called up my cow about a house on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Seventeen rooms are pool as big as the bill.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm bessaging the numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>Bear and yond pallet and your blue ribbon budget. So

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<v Speaker 4>call your friend that the men and have a friend

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<v Speaker 4>of the fresh bash. David, I got the itch, but

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't got the scratch. You better round on them

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<v Speaker 4>not you know, there's always a cash. David, I got

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<v Speaker 4>the ith, but I ain't got the scratch.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I think that just rocks, And that's just so

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<v Speaker 2>cool because you know, I don't know what it is,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want to just jump up. Seriously, when I

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<v Speaker 2>hear a lot of these blues and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just want to get up and move around.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to? Yeah, you feel good? So I got

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you this more from the personal side of

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the feeling side of this. What does

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<v Speaker 2>this whole taxes blue thing do? I mean, it just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of invigorates it. It talks about hard times, it

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<v Speaker 2>talks about ways to overcomeversity. It just talks about cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just love it. So tell us about the

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<v Speaker 2>whole blues thing. It's just amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't, I don't really consider I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>more like interpreters. I mean, somebody like Freddie King is

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<v Speaker 1>blues or Lightning Hopkins. I mean, you know, we're white

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<v Speaker 1>boy interpreters. I mean, it's kind of like we're We're

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<v Speaker 1>probably closer to the easy Top in terms of sound

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe a approach tonically speaking. You know, we grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>Our backgrounds are much like the TV show King of

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<v Speaker 1>the Hill. It's a lot of that, you know than

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<v Speaker 1>you know, cotton Field or something. We just have a

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<v Speaker 1>take on it. Yeah, So I'm not worried about saying

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<v Speaker 1>true to any you know, blues. Eddy just play what

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<v Speaker 1>we like and that's We're heavily influenced by that and

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<v Speaker 1>it informs everything we're doing. But I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>try to define it Texas blues, I think it would

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<v Speaker 1>it would have a swing to it in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the beat, and it would have a swagger perhaps you know, confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>But initially I think Texas Blues maybe it's earliest days

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<v Speaker 1>probably had was closer to jazz and than the more

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<v Speaker 1>gut buckets Chicago's found. I think it was probably there

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<v Speaker 1>would be more horns and stuff, maybe a little more

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<v Speaker 1>sophisticated musically. And then there's of course there's offshoots and

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's outliers on that people that that sound nothing

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<v Speaker 1>like that, that are Texas Blues. But if I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to generalize than I am, that's what I would would say.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine. Yeah, so kind of like you know Zezy

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<v Speaker 2>Top Billy and the great Billy Gibbons. Obviously we talk

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<v Speaker 2>to him with all these great musicians, But I want

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<v Speaker 2>to wish you guys the greatest success because there's other

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<v Speaker 2>people to mention here. I mean your other powerhouse and

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Simon, who once spent a lot of his life

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<v Speaker 2>with George Thoroughgood. Also, am I correct on.

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<v Speaker 1>That he's been playing with George since nineteen seventy three.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fun now, that's a lifetime. You got it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>George Thenthaniel Peterson.

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<v Speaker 1>Sadie passed away last year. He was living in Italy.

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<v Speaker 2>So wow, I didn't know that, so sorry to hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, and Dan Elliott from show Play Studios, who

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<v Speaker 1>engineered this record has also passed away since we recorded it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, well, God bless to the memory of all

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<v Speaker 2>those other musicians, great musicians, A great fan Texas Scratch again,

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<v Speaker 2>this album on Quarto Valley Records, so us how people

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<v Speaker 2>can get it, which is pretty obvious wherever great music

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<v Speaker 2>is able to be a required and now there's a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of those sources. So where where do people

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<v Speaker 2>go to get this? This is the most popular outlet

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<v Speaker 2>to get a copy of buying.

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<v Speaker 1>A hard copy a CD. I would direct you to

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon dot com or Quarto Valley Records dot com. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a Facebook page for Texas Scratch. And they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to find out anything about our tour dates, the performance dates,

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<v Speaker 1>they can go to Jensuler dot com, j I M.

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<v Speaker 1>S U H L E R dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jim, it's a brilliant, privileged and honor to speak

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<v Speaker 2>with you here, and I apologize any of the communication

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<v Speaker 2>errors in this, but obviously our producer Richard Dugan Doctor

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<v Speaker 2>D will make sure that it sounds better than gold.

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<v Speaker 2>And we wish you the best and hopefully you get

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<v Speaker 2>out here to Arizona too. We want to see you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that's about as near as I right downtown

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<v Speaker 2>here in Phoenix, Arizona or Las Vegas. Looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a pleasure to speak with you. This whole

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<v Speaker 2>six string shootout so much more red hot our performances

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<v Speaker 2>the album once again Texas Scratch on quarts Old Valley Records.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay with us as we go to the heartbreak at

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the hour. This concludes another exciting edition

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<v Speaker 2>of the Doctor Sky Experience, heard proudly and strongly around

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<v Speaker 2>the Cosmos. Thank you to our social guest Jim Suller.

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<v Speaker 2>We wish you got speed with Texas Ranch had a

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<v Speaker 2>good day.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you