WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:02.200 Going Down to South Park is brought to you by 2 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.919 the four Finger Discount Patreon, where you'll find over one 3 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:09.240 hundred hours of bonus podcasts, including exclusive South Park reviews 4 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:13.240 and commentaries, as well as exclusive episodes of Fourth Finger Discount, 5 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:17.679 Tales of Futurama, Bobbas Pods, Speaking of the Hill, Talking Seinfeld, 6 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:20.359 The One About Friends, and so much more. So go 7 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:23.559 ahead and join the family today at patreon dot com 8 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:24.760 Slash four Finger Discount. 9 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:26.760 You wanted to kill everyone who wasn't Ginger. Then that 10 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:28.440 kid in the green hat told you something, and now 11 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:29.679 you don't want to do it all of a sudden. 12 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:32.320 What did he tell you? No, he was just telling 13 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:34.119 me about something funny that happened at school yesterday. 14 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:37.600 But anyway, Oh oh wow, I can't believe how great 15 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:38.159 it feels to. 16 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:41.119 Finally love my fellow man. Huh, isn't this great? You guys? 17 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:43.679 We've sure been through a lot, but in the end, 18 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:47.520 we all learned it's best to get along, hand in hand. 19 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:51.200 We can live together. Ginger or night. We're all the same, black, 20 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:52.719 old white bran ol red. 21 00:00:52.799 --> 00:01:00.840 We shouldn't kill each other because it's name kick Ash. 22 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:01.920 Too. Going Down the South by the podcast where we 23 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:03.679 always have ourselves a time, and this week we're going 24 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:07.280 to be eradicating some gingers. I'm Dando and I am guy. Yes, 25 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:10.439 we're a ginger kid. When I had hair, my hair 26 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:12.920 was kind of light brown. But I am hair. I've 27 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:15.640 never known you with hair, that's true. I mean, yeah, 28 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:17.439 a lot of people do not. Do you have curly hair, 29 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:20.400 you have straight hair. It was wavy, wavy hair. That 30 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:25.719 was beautiful, Yeah, really was. But he's not work. That 31 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:28.159 was a different kind of beautiful. Now I'm ruggly beautiful. 32 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:30.159 Yeah, beautiff. What's that guy's name again. 33 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:33.040 James James Blunt. Yeah, I'm gotta say, related to this. 34 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:36.200 Even though I was never a ginger, I did relate. 35 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:39.599 I was. This got me thinking about a pivotal photograph 36 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:42.519 from my youth growing up in the long long ago, 37 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:45.480 the nineteen seventies. I've mentioned my good friend, one of 38 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:47.760 my best friends, certainly my best friend growing up. JP. 39 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:49.439 You do it again, I'm going to I'm. 40 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:52.799 I'm going to sound like I've got an inordinate crush 41 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:55.280 of my friend JP here, But the best of my knowledge, 42 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:58.400 he is not an aryan Nazi or anything like that. 43 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:02.439 But JP blonde hair, blue eyes, be out in the 44 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:04.280 sun for five minutes and just you know, had this 45 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:07.159 beautiful tan. There's a picture of him and me when 46 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.199 we're like six or seven years old at my house 47 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:12.759 by the pool. Here he is looking like the epitome 48 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:17.479 of Australian boyhood. Here's me, maybe a couple of inches shorter, 49 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:20.759 squinting as I always did it when the you know, 50 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:24.080 when the sun was in my eyes, pale as milk. 51 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:25.599 And definition four k. 52 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:34.080 It's pretty much progressive gen. We're ascessive gen. It's like 53 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:38.439 my bo felt. I felt a kinship and an affinity 54 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:41.960 for and respect from my ginger ginger brothers and sisters 55 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:46.120 in this in this episode. I'm I remember this episode 56 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:48.360 in some ways, but a lot of I didn't. Yeh 57 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:50.719 found it abound it very very funny. But before we 58 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:52.680 talk about that, shall we talk about some other things 59 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:55.599 Parker and Stone related, particularly as it relates to my life. 60 00:02:55.719 --> 00:02:57.560 Yes, so I was talking about meat. So I celebrated 61 00:02:57.599 --> 00:02:59.599 my thirteenth anniversary a couple of days ago. But you 62 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:01.599 celebrate your seventh anniversary. 63 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:02.759 Seventh anniversary of the Lovely Luis. 64 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:05.120 Yeah, and you went and watched a particular stage show 65 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:05.759 we did. 66 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:07.840 It was dinner on a show. Yeah, Lou and I 67 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:11.120 went to Melbourne, had a fantastic steak dinner at seven Alfred, 68 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:14.120 friend of the Pod, and then caught The Book of Mormon, 69 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:17.560 which has returned to Melbourne for a new season. We 70 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:19.560 got it before opening nine. I guess it was a preview. 71 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:21.800 Oh wow, did you know much about the show before 72 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:22.159 we went in? 73 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:25.919 I was trying to go in as blindish as possible. 74 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:29.639 I knew what it was about, but I didn't really 75 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:32.560 know any of the songs, and I didn't know much 76 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:34.120 of the story at all. Because I knew I wanted 77 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:35.680 to see it one day and I wanted to get 78 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:37.759 get dispress possible, and I'm glad I did because I 79 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:41.199 found it just hilarious. I mean, it's how many times 80 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:43.280 have we talked on this show about you know, Parkeringstone 81 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:48.280 are clearly as musical theater Fisieronados, but also just kind 82 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:50.800 of say masters of the form. But they're really really 83 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:54.840 good at it. It's so good at it. The comic timing, Yeah, absolutely. 84 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:59.319 I mean there's there's great sort of in your face, 85 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:02.520 politically correct outrageous humor in this. 86 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:05.280 Which when you go to a South Park the guys 87 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:06.919 from the guys that created South Park have to have 88 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:08.479 in their shows. You expecting it, aren't you. 89 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:11.319 At the same Yeah, But at the same time, I mean, 90 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:13.479 I don't think this was kind of like and there 91 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:16.360 weren't old people at this, and there maybe were, but 92 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:19.319 the way it's presented is, oh my god, that's confronting. 93 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:21.319 But also it's like, yeah, but I don't think you're 94 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:24.759 being cruel with it, and you just go along with it. 95 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:27.759 But the songs are just fantastic. Yeah. I'm still humming 96 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:31.279 them and singing them weeks later. So yeah, the book 97 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:33.959 more than definitely worth checking out. I'm guessing the people 98 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:35.959 who listen to going down to South Park are already 99 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:38.240 well for me with it. You've seen it. I'm sure 100 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:40.839 I saw it in London on the West End. Yeah, 101 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:44.839 but this particular production, this Melbourne production, is Australian actors. 102 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:47.800 All Australian actors can tell. Yeah, and they were great, 103 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:52.319 I will say that. For me. Well, the two male 104 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:56.199 leads playing Elder Price and Eldercut are fantastic. For me. 105 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:01.680 The standard was the actor playing Elder McKinley. He sort 106 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:04.560 of leads the is it turn it off or switch 107 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:06.879 it off the song I can't remember turn it off, 108 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:14.079 like let's switch fantastic song. But this guy is, yeah, 109 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:18.199 absolute winner. So yeah, I had a great, great time, 110 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:22.600 really enjoyed it. Yeah his name is Tom Strook, I believe, 111 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:25.720 so yeah he was. He was great. Lou really enjoyed it. 112 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:26.120 That's good. 113 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:27.639 So yeah, a good time was had. 114 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:29.680 I love it. Like Lou, this is what we're doing 115 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:31.399 an anniversary. She's like, I don't really, I don't care. 116 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:33.199 We're going to see the book a moment. 117 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:35.399 I think Lou was just happy that I organized something. 118 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:38.800 We're going here for dinner and we catch on the 119 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:40.600 show and I've also booked the hotel. I saw. 120 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:42.720 It's funny how they always organized our lives. I saw 121 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:45.160 a funny meme this morning. It was Chunk is a 122 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.000 Chunk from the Goonies? Yes, yes, and the what's the 123 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:51.600 monster guy called sloth Sloth and he's like, you're gonna 124 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:53.920 live with me now. It's like like, this is my 125 00:05:53.959 --> 00:05:56.160 wife meeting me. I'm going to take care of you now. 126 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:00.480 Just what it is. It's like, you're gonna live with 127 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:03.720 me now and I'm going to help you live organize 128 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:05.600 your life make sure you eat, make sure you look 129 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:08.240 after yourself, make sure you shave your back, to all 130 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:08.959 your usual shit. 131 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:13.360 But yeah, ginger kids. 132 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.240 Yeah, so I like this, although at certain elements I'm 133 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:18.000 watching this going I kind of feel like we've been there, 134 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:19.519 done that with Passion to the Jew. 135 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:22.319 There's a little bit of wheel spinning here. Absolutely. I 136 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:25.160 mean I think they realize looks it's always gold when 137 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:29.040 Cartman can be a hate monger. Is a very effective 138 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:32.759 hate monger, isn't he at least he's not going to die. Yeah, 139 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:35.759 but he does it so well. I mean, say what 140 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:39.680 you like about Cartman. He's got a real, you know, knack, 141 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:43.920 but I don't know, rabble rousing for getting crowds together 142 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:47.040 and getting people behind his ideas and his movements. 143 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:49.600 Well, he's very The character obviously is very quick on 144 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:52.079 his feet. He's able to sort of see situation and go, Okay, 145 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:54.160 this isn't going how I intended it. How can I 146 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:55.839 divert it this way to make sure I get to 147 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:58.560 my desired destination? Absolutely, which is what you see in 148 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:01.399 the final act where like Kyle whispers in his ear 149 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:03.079 and I did love here where the kid was like 150 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:06.399 what the kids said here. It's like you said kill 151 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:08.680 all and he said something to you and you say, no, 152 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:09.279 kill them all. 153 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:11.560 That's actually one of my favorite I don't want to 154 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:16.360 jump ahead too much, but you just said like fifteen 155 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:19.399 seconds ago, and it's great because so many movies will 156 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:21.199 have that gun on the Yeah, well that will the 157 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:26.079 kind of thing will go unacknowledged. You just said that 158 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:31.720 fifteen seconds ago. You said this. What did you say? Sorry? 159 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:35.000 Because coming, Oh my god, you guys, I just realized 160 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:36.920 that we should all like live, we should live together 161 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:38.160 in peace, hand and hand. 162 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:42.240 Did you not? But yeah, it did kind of feel 163 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:44.639 like I'm like, we've kind of been here and done that. 164 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:47.000 But apparently they got the idea for this when they 165 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:50.839 were in England parking Stone promoting the show and they 166 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:53.680 saw a billboard and on the billboard it said only 167 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:55.800 you can prevent ginger and had a picture of a 168 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:58.600 ginger girl and like, what was that? What mooting? 169 00:07:59.000 --> 00:07:59.079 Like? 170 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:01.360 Was it saying you can prevent being ginger? You can 171 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:05.879 prevent I don't get it. Only you can prevent ginger? Wow? Anyway, 172 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:08.319 the idea for that and they thought, well, see for me, 173 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:11.560 I don't feel like in Australia, Ginger kids were picked 174 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:14.199 on like. It was never something I experienced. Nicholas says 175 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:16.639 that in the UK, if you were ginger, you got 176 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:19.480 picked on a lot. I don't really remember ginger kids 177 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:20.279 being picked on here. 178 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:22.319 I only really remember one. 179 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:24.519 I think they call them like a minger or something. 180 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:29.720 Yeah, horrific, which is pretty much short age person as 181 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:32.960 far as I can tell. I remember one redhead from 182 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:39.919 my school and growing up. Oh yeah, and yeah, I 183 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.279 mean I'm pretty sure that their redheaded status was made 184 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:43.720 fun of. 185 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.799 Okay, yeah, I was just a nice guy. 186 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:49.159 It probably were. Yeah. It always struck me as kind 187 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:52.159 of a weird thing to be poking fun at someone. 188 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:54.480 For I always thought it was interesting that we called 189 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:57.399 them redheads when their hair was orange. To me, I 190 00:08:57.480 --> 00:09:00.759 was always say, white, your hair's not red like the redhead. 191 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:01.559 I'm like, but you're not read. 192 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:04.279 It's more sort of copper colored or bronze colored or 193 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:07.679 something like that. Yeah, I mean it's weird because I mean, 194 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.120 I'm I'm like the Peanuts character Charlie Brown in many ways, 195 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:14.759 you know, bawling no good at sport, and also have 196 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:18.279 unrequired crushes on redhead girls. I always had crushes on redheads. 197 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:19.159 When I was growing up. 198 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:22.919 A brunette guy, always been brunettes. Throw a blonde at me, 199 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:23.159 I'm like. 200 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:27.799 Yeah, yeah, one's gonna kind of take or leave chats 201 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:30.679 all the blondes out there. That goes half a demo 202 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:34.080 bones like, don't worry, guys, we ain't gone for you. 203 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:38.919 You were never in the rod. Yeah, but I think 204 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:42.120 redheaded guys maybe had it a little harder. I think 205 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:44.240 the other thing is that growing up in Australia, it's 206 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:47.399 very much as I pointed out before, you know, you're 207 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:50.039 kind of expected to look like JP. You you get 208 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:51.879 out in the sun and it's like, oh yeah, you 209 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:54.200 get a ten like you're a redhead, or you're pale 210 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:56.360 like me, you get it. It's ah, it's people like 211 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:58.440 you like you're like Linda Hamile at the start of 212 00:09:58.480 --> 00:09:59.240 that tea too. 213 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:02.279 So the people like him. That's the president of what 214 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:04.320 people think when they think of Australian. So it's like 215 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:07.679 it's like Nikola goes to home, I'm married, No, I'm 216 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:09.120 dating in Australia. They think it's going to be like 217 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:12.360 you said, blonde, bombshell dude, you're bringing home Chris Hams. Yeah, 218 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:13.919 I rock up and it's like, Ah, I thought you 219 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:14.720 said it was Australian. 220 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:28.480 You brought Noah Taylor shadows. So yeah, I mean I'm 221 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:32.919 wondering if, if, and when that sort of it's weird. Yeah, 222 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:35.960 like I said, with Australia, Yeah, you tend to think 223 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:40.159 of that kind of stereotype. I mean, and certainly in 224 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:43.519 my childhood here and teenage here, because yeah, when we 225 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:45.639 went out in the sun, we weren't putting on sunscreen. 226 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:48.200 We were putting on suntan lotion. We're putting on we 227 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:51.399 were rubbing oil into our bodies to get more sun 228 00:10:51.480 --> 00:10:57.080 on us. We had fun doing it. I'm doing it. 229 00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:00.240 So I'm trying to remember if there were that many 230 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:04.440 redheads around, and yeah, they weren't that many. And I 231 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:07.000 don't think we're going ah ginger. Yeah, and we certainly 232 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:08.879 were going you had no soul or anything like that. 233 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:12.279 They also acknowledging the commentary that they wanted to make 234 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:14.879 sure they did some research and there was some truth 235 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:17.080 behind the theory of the genetics and whatnot. There wasn't 236 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:20.519 just some outlandish South Park story which you can actually 237 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:24.200 buy into it. Both ways, they explaining this and it's 238 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:26.320 just like this comes across like just something South Park, 239 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:28.039 which just make up, but it's actually kind of true. 240 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:29.360 The recessive genes. 241 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:31.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I learned this when we got 242 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.679 our ginger cat. And apparently all cats start ginger and 243 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:38.480 if they are missing a certain gene or something, then 244 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:41.279 they hair doesn't change colors. Apparently all cats are ginger 245 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:44.159 when they're first created. I could be wrong. This is 246 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:46.360 what the pound told me. She's like, all cats are 247 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:49.960 ginger until they're not. So if they if they're ginger, 248 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:51.679 that means they didn't get and that's why ginger cats are. 249 00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:53.679 They say ginger cats are stupid because they don't have 250 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:57.360 the extra chromosome or whatever that makes they're stupid. That's 251 00:11:57.399 --> 00:12:00.720 apparently a thing I didn't realize this. Look, apparently we're 252 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.399 all we're all girls until we go a dick or something. 253 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:05.519 Apparently, so yeah, we're we're all start off as we 254 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:06.840 all start as female in the womb. 255 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:10.799 Yeah, I was like ginger cats. Decades long mystery of 256 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:16.039 ginger cats revealed. Okay, Garfield, Puss and Boots, aristocrats, cultural icons, 257 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:19.000 maybe ginger most certainly and our scientists across two continents 258 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:21.720 have uncovered the DNA mysteries that has given our fairy friends, 259 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:23.320 particular males, their notable color. 260 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:28.399 Shout out to this science reporter just trying to cultural 261 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:31.000 really come up with like an interesting look to this 262 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:34.799 very bland science story, and it's like, okay, what are 263 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:36.440 ginger cats? A people like Puss in boots? 264 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:39.639 Definitely Garfield, but he says, yeah, they discovered that ginger 265 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:41.919 cats are missing a section of their genetic code, which 266 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:44.759 means the sales responsible for their skin iron fur tone 267 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:47.840 produced lighter colors. The breakthrough has brought delight to the 268 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:50.120 scientists but also thousands of cat lovers that originally crowd 269 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:50.879 funded the research. 270 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:55.960 Was like, we need to know, this is vital informations. 271 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:57.240 Government's like, we ain't funding this. 272 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:01.840 Did you see on Twitter? You realize the planet's on fire? Yes? 273 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:04.159 But the thing is so maybe I was maybe they're 274 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:06.279 not old born ginger but that's why, because they're missing 275 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:08.720 something and then they can't produce darker colors, which is 276 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:09.440 why they ginger. 277 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:12.200 I get the villain. This was probably, you know, pretty 278 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:16.279 bad press for human gingers this episode. Oh yes, I 279 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:19.960 get the feeling this may have done more harm than good. 280 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:23.799 I'd be interested to see or to hear someone who's 281 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:25.960 ginger who got red hairs thoughts on this episode and 282 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:29.080 whether they felt attacked or not, because they never really 283 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:32.679 said they portray him terribly and any reason in the 284 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:35.519 end they don't. They try to get the message at 285 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:37.200 the end, like the companies his song, but the song. 286 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:39.480 The thing is, the song is done as a way 287 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:41.320 for him to get out of trouble. It's not really 288 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:43.679 like anyone's really learning the listen. I guess they kind 289 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:45.600 of stand discussing it on the way over, like maybe 290 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:47.039 we've been a bit mean to the ginger kids, we 291 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:49.559 shouldn't really do that, blah blah blah blah. I guess 292 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:50.799 they kind of put that there, but I just don't 293 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:52.159 think it was really hammingd home enough. 294 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:56.919 Oh no, No, they were the butt of the joke. Yeah, 295 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:00.360 kids are terrible, and I'll always find ways to sort of, yeah, 296 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.679 bully someone or at least divert bullying away from themselves. 297 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:06.080 So if you can find some sort of marginalized group 298 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:09.399 to poke fun at and yeah, as I said, the 299 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:11.240 intention away from you, then you'll do it. And if 300 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:12.559 it's ginger kids and it's ginger. 301 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:19.960 Kids, do you have any favorite moments from the episode. 302 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:25.240 Ah, I did like Cartman's report. I love how he 303 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:26.799 sort of said we've all seen him on the street. 304 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:29.200 It's like, yeah, he's back on Action News or whatever. 305 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:32.679 But also his reactions whenever you know he's doing slide 306 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:35.480 you know it's some and it's some stock photo of 307 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:37.720 a ginger kit. Yeah, nasty. Yeah. 308 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:39.320 I think it was like, oh ship. 309 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:43.440 Yeah, but they were really good. The I forgot the 310 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:44.919 name of the parents of. 311 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:47.120 Her parents in my bit where it's just like they're 312 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:47.600 all just. 313 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:49.159 On the red handed raskers. 314 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:50.480 Yeah, now got three of them. 315 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:56.240 He comes up with that dreadful advice, you don't want 316 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:57.240 ginger kids married Asian. 317 00:14:57.679 --> 00:14:59.120 Now, do you know what that's a reference to? What 318 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:01.960 is it? Trey Parker. So, so when Stanley Kyle living in 319 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:04.159 the Folly family's house, which is mister Foley the guy, 320 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:06.120 he tells him to marry an Asian woman to avoid 321 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:08.360 having ginger children. He says, I know a guy who's 322 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:10.480 marrying a Japanese woman very soon for just that reason, 323 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:12.679 to avoid it. This is an inside joke referred to 324 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:14.879 Trey Parker, who at the time was engaged to a 325 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:19.320 Japanese woman and he has apparently he has said I've 326 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:23.360 read this somewhere. He has said that he found out 327 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:26.879 that a woman he was dating had the Ginger genetic 328 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:29.240 code in her past and he broke up with her. 329 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:30.960 One of the reasons was because of that. 330 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:35.799 But he said that publicly tray that man could be just. 331 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:37.320 Like someone making it up because people to say shit 332 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:38.879 as you say. But I read that, I was like, 333 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:44.919 I wouldn't say that out loud. No, you certainly wouldn't. God, Trey, 334 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:47.840 We've been pulling for you this whole time. But yeah, 335 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:50.039 so that's that's what that was a reference to anyway. 336 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:53.360 But also the day Walker. Oh yeah, that's from Blade. 337 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:55.480 That's from Blade. As the day Walker, he can he 338 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:58.320 don't get attacked by the sun. Correct, he's a vampire 339 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:03.000 and a son something else joined was tight here. Yeah. 340 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:05.159 Parker once said he had a girlfriend whose mother had 341 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:07.120 red hair, and he ended the relationship to avoid having 342 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:10.039 red headed children, and even admitted to harboring what he 343 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:15.200 described as racial prejudice against Gingers. When did this. 344 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:18.279 Episode there because this is just yeah, them being Shitstirs 345 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:22.120 two thousand and five. They're a little bit beyond their 346 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:25.240 early sort of young Turk stage interesting. 347 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:28.519 But ginger people though, mustn't like this episode. I just 348 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:30.919 discovered an entire section on the wiki page I'll just 349 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:32.799 talking to You that I didn't realize was there. So 350 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:35.600 the ginger kids. This episode supposedly inspired I've Never heard 351 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:39.000 of this the infamous national Kicker Ginger Day event, of 352 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:42.519 which three incidents involving the event and the episode gained notoriety. 353 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:45.559 The event started out as a Facebook group or event 354 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:47.320 in two thousand and eight with a target date of 355 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:50.480 November twentieth, and attracted members from Canada and the United States, 356 00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:52.879 eventually extending as far as the United Kingdom and Ireland. 357 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:55.240 In line with the starting date, the first incidents of 358 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:57.440 Kicking Ginger Day took place on the same date in 359 00:16:57.480 --> 00:16:59.519 the same year across Canada and the United States. Several 360 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:02.840 students were hair were assaulted by students. A police spokesman 361 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:05.519 for the Royal Canadian Mountain Police and incident as a 362 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:06.480 subitious hate crime. 363 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:09.960 Yeah, of course, if you're targeting someone for a particular reason, 364 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:10.680 that's a hate crime. 365 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:13.720 And twenty ten, YouTuber Michael Control, also known as Copper Cab, 366 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:16.440 uploaded a video referring to the episode title Gingers Do 367 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:18.759 have Souls that went viral. South Park later parodied the 368 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:21.799 video in their promotion for season fourteen. A second kick 369 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:25.720 of Ginger Day incident happened in twenty thirteen at Wingfield 370 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:29.680 Academy in Yorkshire, where redheaded students faced discrimination based on 371 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:32.279 their hair colored. Parents of the discriminated students launched a 372 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:35.599 Facebook group protesting the offending students in an attempt to 373 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:38.400 end their bullying. Many parents were enraged by the incident, 374 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:40.519 resulting in some of them fetching their children during the 375 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:42.839 school hours out of fear of them being potential targets 376 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:47.000 for assault. School staff strongly reprimanded the offending students. A 377 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:50.599 school spokesperson declared the incident's deplorable acts said that the 378 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:54.039 entire institution was warn that students who continued to perform 379 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:56.640 such a discrimination based on the episode would also be punished. 380 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:00.279 The third incident happened in Massachusetts in twenty fifteen, where 381 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:02.599 students with red hair also suffered the same fate, with 382 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:07.839 some injured and bleeding. Disciplinary disciplinary hearings and tolerance seminars 383 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:11.599 were conducted. Singer ed Sheering claims in a joke in 384 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:13.920 joke form. The episode was the start of noticeable discrimination 385 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:17.279 against redhead headed people in America, despite people with ginger 386 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:21.759 hair being made fun of for decades prior to this. Wow, So. 387 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:25.400 Okay, Yeah, I chogked this up as an l for 388 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:33.200 Parker and this ain't great basically, cartmen, they're not going 389 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:38.759 out there but tacitly inciting, viable. 390 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:40.799 But that's that's the thing. As we're touching on earlier, 391 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:43.759 they don't make it obvious enough in the episode that 392 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:47.039 this shouldn't be happening. You shouldn't be treating gingers this way. 393 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:49.720 Carman only did it because he didn't want to get passed. 394 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:53.880 Yeah, I get the feeling that there's me playing devil's 395 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:56.119 advocate for Parker and Stone in this regard is like 396 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:01.960 they viewed it as so ridiculous. Yeah that look, no 397 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:03.799 one's going to take this and run with it. Can 398 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:08.519 you really blame Parker and Stone for this happening? I 399 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:11.000 don't think they're entirely blameless. 400 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:14.960 But they made it. They made it hating on gingers funny, 401 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:19.000