Speaker 1: Oh well, that's are.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I am the
Speaker 3: Cajun Night, I'm Raven Lee. And today we have one
Speaker 3: a very special guest to talk about some background, some literature,
Speaker 3: how he found himself in the position or write on
Speaker 3: certain topics.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a wild episode.
Speaker 3: Good Cult member, so buckle up and welcome Raymond from
Speaker 3: the VIV Verse for lack of better words, the VIV universe,
Speaker 3: if you will, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Brother my, Yeah, you're all right, thanks man. Thanks. So
Speaker 2: let's get right down to the meat potatoes of it. Uh.
Speaker 3: You are an author, you're a published author, and the
Speaker 3: books and literature that you put out are more in
Speaker 3: line of what type of genre if you had to
Speaker 3: classify it.
Speaker 4: When I first started doing it, my idea is to
Speaker 4: do a superhero because I always loved superheroes, want to
Speaker 4: started writing by I went a little bit darker as
Speaker 4: such dance superheroes and started turning into fantasy.
Speaker 5: And since then it's gone some more mythological.
Speaker 3: In what regards It's like we're talking Percy Jackson, are
Speaker 3: We're talking like I sent.
Speaker 1: A mine around voodoo and Celtic mythology. That's where I'm
Speaker 1: going off more more vood you do a bit of
Speaker 1: Celtic mythologier and obviously starting to branch out from now.
Speaker 1: I had this slight idea, which I'll get into the
Speaker 1: whole story in a minute, a slight idea, and since
Speaker 1: then it's.
Speaker 5: Just grown and grown and grown, and I have that.
Speaker 3: Much ship now voodoo and voodoo and Celtic mythology.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going into a little bit, not massively because
Speaker 1: in a little bit I don't know load, it's more.
Speaker 5: Just what I've got offline.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, I.
Speaker 1: Don't want to go too deep into that. The voodoo side,
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more up to date on.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just asking me. That's a very interesting combination.
Speaker 3: You usually don't hear of voodoo and Celtic mythology. I mean,
Speaker 3: I guess you could make the connection through like some
Speaker 3: sort of Catholicism.
Speaker 2: You know, you aren't on the corkboard, so to speak.
Speaker 3: But usually voodoo comes from like Western African culture, and
Speaker 3: the Celtic comes from or Celtic, however you pronounce it
Speaker 3: comes from Europe and the Northern Europe and all the
Speaker 3: so to hear that you're kind of bouncing between those two.
Speaker 2: That is fascinating. I know.
Speaker 1: I mean the thing is so the Voodoo side, obviously
Speaker 1: it's a West African, more guy Naian and Nigerian. I'm
Speaker 1: going more off the Haitian side. I'm half Jamaican. I'm
Speaker 1: English Jamaican, Okay. So the is it the Urubu in Jamaica,
Speaker 1: which is a little bit more than in Vowdoo, But
Speaker 1: I know Voodo's got a bit of a bigger mythology
Speaker 1: about it than the Urubu, which I'll get into the
Speaker 1: Voodoo side and a little bit in a second. My
Speaker 1: second name is Scottish. I've done a little bit of
Speaker 1: history that comes from the Viking area of Scotland, very
Speaker 1: very North Scotland. But I know obviously somewhere down the
Speaker 1: line there will be a bit of probably Irish blood
Speaker 1: in there as well, which I can connect Ireland strick
Speaker 1: to Jamaica through the whole Caribbean and title it does
Speaker 1: link massively more you look into it, it does actually link
Speaker 1: quite well.
Speaker 2: Oh, Tobacco Island, man.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't understand what happened with Oliver Cromwell,
Speaker 3: and they don't understand how a lot of virus people.
Speaker 1: Actually, I've got a part of Cromwell in one of
Speaker 1: my box actually as.
Speaker 3: Well the wait wait, you're shitting on him right, Oh
Speaker 3: fucking too good? Good, fuck Oliver Cromwell. Making sure you're
Speaker 3: on the same page.
Speaker 1: I'm going to end up shooting on quite a fair
Speaker 1: few people, to tell you the truth like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's certain things I've done a bit of
Speaker 1: a check in and did. There's certain things I know
Speaker 1: not to say, certainly. Obviously I'm not writing these names down.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 5: I was checking one that I messaged you about and.
Speaker 1: It said it's fine to do as long as I
Speaker 1: don't link the name to the actual person. I don't
Speaker 1: think I can get any closer without getting closer. Can
Speaker 1: be called Jimmy Sovereign?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay, yes, that's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's the BVC not will you know which?
Speaker 5: Would we say really quickly? Does sound like anyway?
Speaker 1: So I can go close, But I can't go I
Speaker 1: can't say the names because apparently not can become a
Speaker 1: massive legal issue. Some bullshit. Yeah anything in a minute,
Speaker 1: My counts are going to get on the table.
Speaker 2: Dude, you're good. We have. It's oddly enough. We have
Speaker 2: so many people with cats, so many guests.
Speaker 6: Every time the cats are like hey and get.
Speaker 2: On cameras just now.
Speaker 5: So obviously he wants to he wants to get in.
Speaker 5: I'm obviously on screen because he's a lot.
Speaker 3: Okay, so hold, before we get into the books and
Speaker 3: the literature and the history and all these things, you're
Speaker 3: clearly you said you're half Jamaican half English.
Speaker 2: What part of England do you hail from?
Speaker 3: Because I'm trying to place the accent and you don't
Speaker 3: sound like you're from London, but you sound like you
Speaker 3: might be from the outside where you're No.
Speaker 1: I'm from the northwest part from a sitting next to
Speaker 1: Manchester called Sulford.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, are you a Manchester fan?
Speaker 5: Manchester United?
Speaker 2: Yes? Good fuck yes.
Speaker 3: Me and my son have a rivalry because he's a
Speaker 3: man City fan because apparently I didn't raise him right
Speaker 3: and it'd be like that. But he's twelve and he's
Speaker 3: a really fucking good goalie. But uh yeah, but he's
Speaker 3: he's a man City fan. I don't know where I
Speaker 3: went wrong here, but you know, yeah.
Speaker 1: They only got fun since two thasand and eight when
Speaker 1: trying to explain to him they used to be dog shit.
Speaker 3: They're decent now, but that's because of like two decent
Speaker 3: players that brought the team along with them, but.
Speaker 5: Like a shipload of money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I have this debated City fans
Speaker 1: will say that United did the same in the nineties.
Speaker 5: They took all me the best youth players and yeah, to.
Speaker 1: Be Actually, I won't be linking a bit of football. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna assume you just call it soccer. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: won't be linking a bit of football later to the
Speaker 1: way I've done one of my books about conspiracies, and
Speaker 1: my books are very conspiracy minded for the people that
Speaker 1: will be able to see past a certain.
Speaker 2: Layer of Okay that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And just so you know, I the way my
Speaker 1: brain works, I like to say it's like a spider's
Speaker 1: web where I can make one thing connect to another
Speaker 1: thing without and din get all the way around by you. No,
Speaker 1: I could spy the way if you If you're on
Speaker 1: knee side of the spider's web and you want to
Speaker 1: get to the west side, you can go ten different ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Add works like that for me too, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I'm messing out sorry, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not being rid. I just I can't stit.
Speaker 3: So bro I have this being at like a fidget
Speaker 3: spinner in my hands at all times.
Speaker 2: I have to be moving.
Speaker 3: My brain's doing wild ship at all times. But the
Speaker 3: problem is I can only focus on one thing at
Speaker 3: a time. There's like forty tabs open in the Internet
Speaker 3: browser of my brain, but only one is on screen.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a pain in the ass.
Speaker 1: But so I've got any.
Speaker 5: Way around that. I can do fifteen things at once.
Speaker 7: That's that's how I am. I can do like twenty
Speaker 7: five things at one time.
Speaker 6: I'm jealous, Like boom bom boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my I've this is how I will.
Speaker 1: I won't get to all in a few minutes. I like,
Speaker 1: I've embraced it these days and like to say it's
Speaker 1: my superpower. And I tell my learners at work or
Speaker 1: go for the ones that do have it, use it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: You know, if make it productive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, if you're gonna mess about, you're gonna
Speaker 1: if you're gonna if you can do ten things at once,
Speaker 1: do ten things at once, you know, use it. I
Speaker 1: don't think it is a hindrance or a burden as
Speaker 1: a bit of a power. And you know, I've got
Speaker 1: things going on in my head while I'm doing other
Speaker 1: things as well things, you know, which is why I've
Speaker 1: been able to do as much as I can, you know,
Speaker 1: because I know I don't stop.
Speaker 3: So so all right, so you're in northwest England and
Speaker 3: you said you half Jamaican.
Speaker 2: That's from your mother or your father's side.
Speaker 5: That's from my dad's side.
Speaker 3: And so he y'all this your parents met in England
Speaker 3: or met in Jamaica.
Speaker 1: That moved over. I think it was in the seventies.
Speaker 1: He moved over just after the wind rush.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you got brought up on like traditional Yardi.
Speaker 5: Food, not so much.
Speaker 1: It was more English food than the jamaicanfude, it wasn't
Speaker 1: as big.
Speaker 2: I am sorry about that.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, it's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 2: You missed out.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 3: If you had a household of Yardi food versus a
Speaker 3: household where they just boil everything, I feel like the
Speaker 3: Jamaican way would have been the better one, honestly.
Speaker 7: Well, go ahead, Oh, I was going to ask you
Speaker 7: what is with the toast and the bean situation, like
Speaker 7: what is that?
Speaker 6: I don't I want to.
Speaker 7: Understand it, Like I just I don't understand it, and
Speaker 7: I want to and I'm like, I'm confused.
Speaker 6: How we got to this.
Speaker 2: We're getting to the thick of it. Let's fucking go.
Speaker 5: It's a national dish.
Speaker 3: Not by the way, you know what, No, I like
Speaker 3: baked beans and I like toast, but both for breakfast
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense.
Speaker 7: What I think about it is a sloppy joe. I
Speaker 7: don't know if you guys know what that is. So
Speaker 7: pretty much like you can make a hamburger patty and
Speaker 7: you throw chili on top, and you can have it
Speaker 7: on buns where you like can eat it and it's messy,
Speaker 7: or you can eat it broken apart.
Speaker 6: That's what I think about when I think about eating your.
Speaker 1: Guys, I'm not one hundred percent or what I would imagine.
Speaker 5: It probably linked to World War two, I would think.
Speaker 6: So you knows and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a cheap, easy food to do. And
Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest with you. I actually don't
Speaker 1: knock it till you try it properly. You know, you
Speaker 1: get some beans to cook them on a low heat
Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes. So the toasted around about
Speaker 1: three minutes, so it's that nice golden brown. Slap it on.
Speaker 6: I'm going to have to try it.
Speaker 3: I do funck with black and white pudding, though it
Speaker 3: was blood sausage. That shit goes hard.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love a bit of black pudding, but
Speaker 1: it's better if you have it on a full English obviously.
Speaker 1: But beans and toast, it is quite a nice easy
Speaker 1: if you like. If you're not hungry, what you want
Speaker 1: to eat and you don't want to cook, and it's
Speaker 1: just I'll crack a fucking ten of beans. Can put
Speaker 1: me in the mic wave, put them in a pan.
Speaker 1: Toast is free minutes. Slap it on, you know I.
Speaker 6: Feel about the toast. You can do it with toast.
Speaker 7: You can do it with tortillas or whatever where you
Speaker 7: put butter, sugar and cinnamon. Ight you make little rolls.
Speaker 7: I know that it sounds weird, but you can make toast.
Speaker 7: You can make it with I like to do it
Speaker 7: with tortillas because I like to roll them up, so
Speaker 7: it's like a super easy meal.
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's a niche and wide thing that.
Speaker 3: People, But do you have crumpets Okay, so when you
Speaker 3: say a crumpet, see, I'll call a biscuit.
Speaker 2: We call a cookie. You say a crumpet, we would
Speaker 2: call it.
Speaker 6: What I think, it's a scone.
Speaker 5: No, scum's a different a crumpet. Say, I don't a
Speaker 5: crump it's a crumpet.
Speaker 3: Okay, Now I have to google image of this ship
Speaker 3: because I don't know what the hell we're talking about.
Speaker 6: What is a crumpet?
Speaker 1: Crumpet's actually really nice. I've got a really nice recipy
Speaker 1: for crumpets.
Speaker 3: Where really well, the closest thing I could relate this
Speaker 3: to is a pancake that's the size of a biscuit,
Speaker 3: like an English mud often, but the consistency is different.
Speaker 6: Oh it's it's a mini. It's a mini pancake.
Speaker 2: But it seems denser, I know.
Speaker 6: But it looks it looks like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's similar. Yeah, they're a bit thicken than pancakes.
Speaker 1: They're about the sides of a pancake, but they're a
Speaker 1: bit thicker.
Speaker 6: It's like if an English muffin and a pancake had
Speaker 6: a baby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do not have that possible, we do not
Speaker 3: have it. Oh yeah, no, I want some shit I.
Speaker 6: Do now, yeah, and this the recipe I want to
Speaker 6: make it.
Speaker 5: I don't know how you make it. We just buying
Speaker 5: your packets.
Speaker 1: You put them in for about five minutes, slap a
Speaker 1: lot of the butter and sort of butter seeps down
Speaker 1: to the middle and again now lovely. But they have
Speaker 1: one way if you I like to cut my knock
Speaker 1: in smaller piece and like, say, bit some themon bit
Speaker 1: of sugar. Welcome in the air fry for about five minutes,
Speaker 1: go a little bit gold and brown, be honey on
Speaker 1: the top.
Speaker 3: Yeah that sounds nice, you know, but y'all don't have
Speaker 3: biscuits there, like what we all biscuit y'all don't have
Speaker 3: those there.
Speaker 1: So I've always tried to wear it stout because in
Speaker 1: Demolition Man, when the Wesley Snipes is going in so
Speaker 1: he always goes it reminds me.
Speaker 5: Of biscuits and gravy, and I'm biscuits and gravy back.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Don't like biscuits and gray with them. It is a
Speaker 6: staple in the South.
Speaker 1: Especially with what's a biscuit over and uh shit, it's.
Speaker 7: Considerably about this big, or they can be about this big.
Speaker 7: It just depends on who's making them, and pretty much
Speaker 7: it's like fluffy on the inside. Has it depends on
Speaker 7: who makes them too, they can be kind of crispy
Speaker 7: on the outside.
Speaker 3: So think of an English English muffin, yeah, all right,
Speaker 3: and about three times the thickness because the English muffins
Speaker 3: like really like flat, So I think about three times
Speaker 3: the thickness and fluffy like a bread and a little
Speaker 3: more on the crumbly side.
Speaker 2: And then gravy it's usually.
Speaker 3: A pork gravy or you make it with like pork sausage,
Speaker 3: de decased pork sausage, and you put throwing cream and
Speaker 3: you slow cook that down to make like a white
Speaker 3: pork gravy, and you just fucking throw it all over
Speaker 3: that ship and you have.
Speaker 2: It's not something you're gonna eat with your hands. You're
Speaker 2: gonna have to eat utensil.
Speaker 3: So it's it's a as a staple in the Southern
Speaker 3: States for sure, right.
Speaker 1: So we have obviously biscuits over there, what you call
Speaker 1: cookies towards cookies with chocolate chips and ship a biscuit
Speaker 1: over there is like a chocolate digestive or something like.
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, which are called digestive. I think the closest
Speaker 3: thing we might have is like a vanilla.
Speaker 1: Wafer chocolate digestives. The ship is chocolate digestives again.
Speaker 5: Pocket, then you know we.
Speaker 3: Have started doing we have started doing tea in my household.
Speaker 3: And apparently I'm gonna be honest. I did not get
Speaker 3: down with the whole milk on the tea vibe.
Speaker 6: Oh I love milk and tea until I.
Speaker 3: Tried it, and it's like, yo, I get the hype
Speaker 3: is this is a nice little like break that you
Speaker 3: would take in the afternoon and have like a little tea,
Speaker 3: a little little cookie.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't drink tea anymore.
Speaker 1: Really, I say I don't drink it because I used
Speaker 1: to drink it when I was younger. I used to
Speaker 1: have sugar and milk. And then I've moved on to
Speaker 1: the coffee, which was coffee, sugar and milk as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I started drinking black coffee.
Speaker 2: Yes, because you're a man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was calories as well. There was also there
Speaker 1: was one point when I was working and I was mobile,
Speaker 1: I'd be having like eight cups a day, like sixteen
Speaker 1: fucking sugars.
Speaker 5: That was tea and coffee.
Speaker 1: And then I went to black coffee, but I can't
Speaker 1: drink black tea and it's own. Drink white tea with
Speaker 1: sugar now it's far too sweet.
Speaker 7: So I like oo long tea. That's that's the tea
Speaker 7: I like with if I'm going to drink it without something.
Speaker 7: But I like also flour teas. I've been drinking tea
Speaker 7: a long time though, pretty much my whole life. And
Speaker 7: I like my English tea, like my early like Earl Gray,
Speaker 7: those kind of teas with cream and sugar.
Speaker 3: I only got into drinking tea as an adult. I
Speaker 3: was drinking black coffee when I was about two years old,
Speaker 3: and pretty much everybody in my family does. And now
Speaker 3: I'm at this point it's like, yeah, this coffee is
Speaker 3: the way tea. In the South, there's always a sweet
Speaker 3: tea thing, like we would never drink hot tea. That's
Speaker 3: that's crazy, So all right, I'm a weirdo for doing that.
Speaker 1: I like my I like my my green teas and
Speaker 1: ship like that, all my limmo and ginger ones and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's the one for the morning out of the train
Speaker 1: inflammatory and ship. But I don't drink as much as
Speaker 1: I used to because I'm trying to cut down, especially
Speaker 1: the job I'm in now I can, I can drink.
Speaker 5: I understand why teachers used to have really bad coffee breath.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for real, you know, I try.
Speaker 1: And cut down myself. I found myself drinking quite a bit.
Speaker 3: While we are talking about British culture and things, if
Speaker 3: you could please, sir. Apparently pissed off some people with
Speaker 3: the Boxing day conversation. What is Boxing Day?
Speaker 1: Well, Boxing Day to me is Mon's birthday. Obviously it
Speaker 1: has been since I've been alive. I always got told
Speaker 1: it was to do with servants. That's the day that
Speaker 1: they would get their presence. It could be a number
Speaker 1: of things, you know, I'm pretty sure if you went
Speaker 1: on the internet, you know you get five different.
Speaker 5: Answers Boxing days.
Speaker 1: I've heard it's a day obviously that's when you throw
Speaker 1: your boxes out, because obviously you get a load of boxes.
Speaker 5: I've got a.
Speaker 1: Load in my garden now, hopefully getting wet so I
Speaker 1: can put them down and put them in the bin.
Speaker 1: But I always I always the impression it was something
Speaker 1: to do with the servants.
Speaker 5: That's the day that they get to up in their presence.
Speaker 3: The master of the house would give his servants gifts
Speaker 3: on Boxing Day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I always I had just sing in my
Speaker 1: head where like Black Friday over there was always I
Speaker 1: always thought it was the day that the like after
Speaker 1: the harvest, the slaves would be sold.
Speaker 3: See that's incorrect, believe it or not, but a lot
Speaker 3: of people have a lot of people believe that because
Speaker 3: there's a few Internet things that went viral. Traditionally speaking though,
Speaker 3: that slaves are sold year round. There was never like
Speaker 3: a day where like that was like more prominent than
Speaker 3: any But yeah.
Speaker 1: Again, when I listened to your show a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: I was listening, I was waiting for that to come up.
Speaker 1: When you obviously you said it was bullshit, I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I always that's the impression art I mean, obviously, And
Speaker 1: it's just how quick a rumor goals around as well
Speaker 1: in and how.
Speaker 5: Much it becomes what's the word viral?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like guys to some ship like that.
Speaker 1: You know, there's something that goes around so much, like
Speaker 1: I know it might be a bit crude, but like
Speaker 1: the blue waffle situation, I've heard that. Yeah, actually true.
Speaker 2: He grew up thinking it was you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: it worked. They told us about it. In sex in
Speaker 2: high school and we believe it.
Speaker 1: You can't gout. Yeah, it's a amure can't go out
Speaker 1: in my fucking head, and I wish you know, it
Speaker 1: might not be real, but it's real to me because
Speaker 1: I've seen.
Speaker 2: It right right, right right. It's like the movie teeth.
Speaker 3: I probably I know the females don't have that, but
Speaker 3: same time that scared the ship out of me to
Speaker 3: where I was like, you know what, I can't confirm
Speaker 3: that there's not teeth inside of a vagina, so I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna believe that they are.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: Purana is as well about movie as well, and all
Speaker 1: I said, a lot of people, you know that they're
Speaker 1: in need.
Speaker 5: The lake is in the poran is coming comes through
Speaker 5: the toilet or some ship like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, movies do a lot to add to the cultural
Speaker 2: site geist.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, you have random things that are not true.
Speaker 7: We brought up the so there's there was and I
Speaker 7: don't know if it's satire. There were some videos that
Speaker 7: were circulating the Internet that there was a conversation that
Speaker 7: in certain places in England people don't really rinse their
Speaker 7: dishes off when they wash them, like after they wash
Speaker 7: them they kind of just like put them in the
Speaker 7: thing to dry out. And that was like this whole thing,
Speaker 7: and people were arguing in the comments and they were
Speaker 7: and I brought it up.
Speaker 6: Somebody corrected us. I don't know if that's true, that's
Speaker 6: not true. So we were like.
Speaker 5: When I washed man, I washed rints and then put
Speaker 5: them on the dream.
Speaker 2: I don't dry them, but you rinse them before you
Speaker 2: put them on the drying board. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: I do notice some people that don't, you know, fucking weirdos.
Speaker 2: So that is a thing.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 5: I have seen people do it, but it's like I
Speaker 5: think it's like the.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a wed or No, dude, if I have
Speaker 1: a bath, I might get in the shower first and
Speaker 1: then getting the bath, or getting the bath then getting
Speaker 1: the shower.
Speaker 6: No, same, I've done both.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's then that's a conversation in America too.
Speaker 2: Some people act like that's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's like, look, I'm the only time I really take
Speaker 3: a bath anymore is if like I have sore muscles,
Speaker 3: I need to soak for a bit, but I'm showering
Speaker 3: once I get out.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sue in my own filth and
Speaker 2: then like act like now I'm clean.
Speaker 6: There's no fucking way, so one way, and I might
Speaker 6: go the other way. If I'm feeling dirty.
Speaker 7: Then I'm gonna wash myself and then take a bath.
Speaker 7: If I'm already clean, I'm just gonna take a bath
Speaker 7: and get out like I'm good to go, right.
Speaker 6: It just is like it's maybe you know, whichever way.
Speaker 6: But I had heard about this and some some of
Speaker 6: the cult members was like, you were incorrect, and like,
Speaker 6: I swear to you.
Speaker 7: I watched all the videos and I read the comments
Speaker 7: and people were like actually arguing it out, saying that
Speaker 7: this is the thing.
Speaker 6: And look, I don't know, but I thought it is interesting.
Speaker 8: It's kind of strange because obviously I'm not I'm married
Speaker 8: because massive I don't like when I listened to some
Speaker 8: of you's talk, I don't think you realize, like, obviously
Speaker 8: the UK is not that big, right, it's tiny?
Speaker 5: Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: It is book. I can go fifteen miles down the road,
Speaker 1: which isn't not five. That's that's a totally fucking well
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all are also really good at pinpointing accents by
Speaker 3: like oh, I'm from this city and somehow Essex sounds
Speaker 3: completely different than than fucking Brixton, which sounds completely different
Speaker 3: than Birmingham. And it's like, I'm sorry, bro, y'all are
Speaker 3: like really close together. How does this sound so different?
Speaker 3: And it's like, y'all can damn here tell what street
Speaker 3: of motherfucker grew up on by the tone and the so.
Speaker 1: Like this this. I don't know if this will piss
Speaker 1: some people office I'm from Salford. Sulford is not Manchester.
Speaker 1: It's a completely different set. It right next to it,
Speaker 1: but it's a totally different set. And I like to
Speaker 1: take the piss out of monks by going you strug
Speaker 1: out your eyes? Do they say Manchester someone from this
Speaker 1: will piss some people are from Manchester because they don't
Speaker 1: all be This is more from the Gallagher situation where
Speaker 1: they'll go Manchester and and what they're doing when they're
Speaker 1: talking from from Manchester.
Speaker 5: They time to top for it. And I was a
Speaker 5: little bit more, you know what I mean, I'm fucking
Speaker 5: from Manchester, man, I'm fucking I love that's a little bit.
Speaker 5: Obviously they don't.
Speaker 1: All talk like that. And you know, I kid and
Speaker 1: all that ship a fucking me and man cool and
Speaker 1: fucking ship that's going.
Speaker 5: To piss some people off.
Speaker 2: It's great, it's great.
Speaker 1: You know that. That's something I like to get My partner,
Speaker 1: she's fresh from Manchester. She doesn't sound like that, but
Speaker 1: I always got Yeah, you look from I'm not being funny.
Speaker 1: Don't think that separates Soul from Manchester Canal.
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 2: Okay, where in England do they replace the T H
Speaker 2: with the F noise?
Speaker 3: Like, for instance, they will stop at nothing to get
Speaker 3: to us, nothing like an e F.
Speaker 2: Where the fucking England? Is that a thing?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know obviously, like where the
Speaker 1: area I'm from, we tend not to say hs.
Speaker 2: You're just not Harry silence them. Oh no you yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So like you know, it's not what's what's his fucking name,
Speaker 1: Harry Harry Potter And yeah it's not Harry Potter, it's
Speaker 1: Harry Potter.
Speaker 2: No ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't.
Speaker 2: And you didn't even do the tas you said Harry Potter,
Speaker 2: like you just skipped straight over there. That was more
Speaker 2: in the way you might say. Do you just say
Speaker 2: a buttle? What too?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 2: How far are we going with this?
Speaker 1: Something like Andrew say that now we say Wau we
Speaker 1: tend not to say team Water as well.
Speaker 2: You know, I love it.
Speaker 6: I love it. I wish I could.
Speaker 7: I wish I could say it like that, just just because.
Speaker 7: But then people are look at me like, way to go.
Speaker 7: You're not from there?
Speaker 1: No, I mean and.
Speaker 5: Down the road is Liverpool and again that's totally different.
Speaker 3: Liverpool accent stands out just like a Jeordi accent completely
Speaker 3: stands out the Welsh there they're speaking a whole other
Speaker 3: fucking language over there.
Speaker 2: It's it's a whole thing.
Speaker 5: But I like, you go to certain parts of Liverpool though.
Speaker 1: You can go to one part of Liverpool and speak
Speaker 1: to swimming and go, I can understand this person. Then
Speaker 1: you go to another part of Liverpool and even I've
Speaker 1: been like, no, idea, what this christ?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad I'm not just us.
Speaker 6: That's that's Louisiana too. Don't worry like this too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like again, like you, yeah, Scotland's not
Speaker 1: that far.
Speaker 5: You know, it's on Glasgow is only four I was
Speaker 5: away from me.
Speaker 7: That's another example that should that's such a little like
Speaker 7: drive for us, Like four hours is nothing like.
Speaker 3: This is a oh I'm taking a nine hour drive
Speaker 3: tomorrow and I'm not even getting through it. Yeah, one
Speaker 3: way nine hours and then two days later after drive
Speaker 3: nine hours back and that's like not even the craziest.
Speaker 2: We took a twenty three hour drive a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can go to Scotland.
Speaker 1: You can go to a place like air and you
Speaker 1: know it's not that strong that you go to glass
Speaker 1: I remember I was in glass Go working and I'd
Speaker 1: pulled over inside of the road and that's this guy
Speaker 1: for directions, and he spoke to me for about five
Speaker 1: minutes and just there's not implight there, and also understood
Speaker 1: was roundable, which is roundabout And I was like, cheers, mate,
Speaker 1: I have no idea what this guy has said, but
Speaker 1: apparently it's a round about down there somewhere right right.
Speaker 3: But now, let me see, Glasgow is a major city
Speaker 3: and they kind of have their own accent that's endemic
Speaker 3: to them, I would assume. But like the Scottish Highlands
Speaker 3: as opposed to the Lowlands, those are also two completely
Speaker 3: different accents and dialects.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, very very very different.
Speaker 1: Again, Like I said, the whold of the UK is
Speaker 1: just ye, you've got Wales. People in North Wales don't
Speaker 1: like people in South Wales. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it's like in America, but like I say, Liverpool's
Speaker 1: from me. There's this massive thing about the man Cunions
Speaker 1: and the Scouts as at each other, and then you
Speaker 1: go a little bit past Birmingham and anything below Birmingham
Speaker 1: to me is London. And I think anything above Birmingham
Speaker 1: to someone from from the south is Manchester. Hate the
Speaker 1: fucking South the East. I mean, like there's a thing
Speaker 1: called the Peak District that separates Lancashire from Yorkshire. And
Speaker 1: the reason God put it there was to keep them
Speaker 1: away from us.
Speaker 2: You ain't talking about Pete like Pete dogs and ship.
Speaker 5: No Peak, this straight. It's it's like, I won't say
Speaker 5: it's mountains, but it's like this massive fucking hill.
Speaker 1: But that's to do with the Battle of the Roses,
Speaker 1: you know. Ah, yeah, God put that there to keep
Speaker 1: us away from us, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't think we have that severe of anywhere really.
Speaker 3: Louisiana pretty much. Anybody north of Laffa, Yeah, they're in
Speaker 3: South Arkansas. They're not in Louisiana anymore. And they call
Speaker 3: themselves Cajuns, but they put tomatoes in their fucking gumbo
Speaker 3: because they're disgusting heathens. And I mean we we have
Speaker 3: that in different variants, in different versions in in the
Speaker 3: United States. That's a fact, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And again like Yorkshire again technically not that far
Speaker 1: on a map, but again just the I don't want
Speaker 1: to piss anymore more. I think that they say sat
Speaker 1: there fucking noting heads going yeah, you use a fucking
Speaker 1: word over there, but you know, this is his whole
Speaker 1: thing about people from Yorkshire, or cheaping ship like that,
Speaker 1: and you have to say like bye, cheap bye twice
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, it's it's such a place when you
Speaker 1: look at the scale of it for such a small place.
Speaker 1: It's like I said, you can go half an hour
Speaker 1: down the road. Is it's not so much walking into
Speaker 1: a different country, but you're in something totally for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's is.
Speaker 1: I think it goes back to probably like no, I
Speaker 1: almost to say tribes, but obviously before.
Speaker 3: Very much clan versus clan, or tried versus tribe, village
Speaker 3: versus village, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1: Family grouping is like when it used to have like
Speaker 1: the Five Kings and ship like that? Was it five?
Speaker 1: Was at four? I can't remember off the top of me,
Speaker 1: but like when it was like Wessex and Mercier and
Speaker 1: fucking all that stuff.
Speaker 5: And I don't think it's ever fully kind of broken up. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And I can say I think.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong on this and possibly correct me
Speaker 1: and probably think I'm an asshole for saying ship like this,
Speaker 1: But I think like the Scouts finger and the mank fingers,
Speaker 1: Scouts are are a little bit more Irish.
Speaker 5: That's why the accent probably comes from.
Speaker 1: And then obviously that was the main place where everything
Speaker 1: got brought in because it's it's around the fucking sea.
Speaker 1: But then they built the ship canw which meant everything
Speaker 1: that come into Liverpool, the jobs didn't go to Liverpool.
Speaker 1: We went down the canals of Manchester, which is a
Speaker 1: little bit more inland, which meant it was a bit
Speaker 1: easy to transport things. And I think that's more the
Speaker 1: case of this, the Scouts man thing is where you
Speaker 1: took our jobs.
Speaker 5: We need to take you for you know.
Speaker 1: It probably goes back to it. I could be wrong
Speaker 1: on that. Someone's probably thinking I have a right or
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know fucking anything. It's just what
Speaker 1: I've always been taught to reason.
Speaker 3: It absolutely stands to reason that it's if nothing else,
Speaker 3: it's something probably a kind of that, something that is
Speaker 3: very very service level that got blown up into something
Speaker 3: that became cultural, and you know, one thing leads to
Speaker 3: another and now, oh, we don't like those dudes because
Speaker 3: fuck them.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, well we don't like you either, because fuck you.
Speaker 2: And it's like sure that here we are, Like yeah,
Speaker 2: I said.
Speaker 1: The part I grew up on was Sulford, and I
Speaker 1: grew up on Salford Keys where the docks were. So
Speaker 1: obviously the ships used to come down the ship canal,
Speaker 1: then dock in Salford and then they'd get put on
Speaker 1: trains and then go everywhere else like that. If you
Speaker 1: look where it is on a map, it is easy
Speaker 1: to put it on a train in Manchester to get
Speaker 1: it around the country. Then it would be to put
Speaker 1: it in Liverpool, which we then have to trouble to
Speaker 1: Manchester to then Gate to go around the So I
Speaker 1: think it was just easy to bring it in on
Speaker 1: the boats. Obviously it probably would have been in Liverpool first.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, we'll just build this canal so we
Speaker 1: don't have to ship it twice, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Oh no, we had.
Speaker 3: We had a governor in Louisiana, famous governor named Huey Long,
Speaker 3: who once upon a time, so the Mississippi River right
Speaker 3: the New Orleans Port is a massive international port for America,
Speaker 3: and the Mississippi River being at one point in time
Speaker 3: the spine of America, and.
Speaker 2: Some would say it still is today.
Speaker 3: Instead of letting these huge cargo ships have the clearance
Speaker 3: to go up the river, Huey Long decided to build
Speaker 3: a bridge so low that no cargo ship can get
Speaker 3: underneath it. He did this to make sure that jobs
Speaker 3: stayed in Louisiana, and he pissed off every state north
Speaker 3: of us up the Mississippi.
Speaker 2: But I mean, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 3: The bridge is already built and looks like you have
Speaker 3: to come through us to get your cargo, So fuck
Speaker 3: off that.
Speaker 2: So I completely understand.
Speaker 1: And it's this thing as well. I came. If I
Speaker 1: was to put it's mad because I reckon as to
Speaker 1: put a map of the UK in front of you
Speaker 1: and said where the Midlands, you'd probably point to where
Speaker 1: Manchester is.
Speaker 5: Well, that's not the middle of England. That's the north
Speaker 5: of England.
Speaker 1: And then if you go to someone in Newcastle, delta
Speaker 1: around and go Manchester is not north because we're more
Speaker 1: and off.
Speaker 5: And then when you wanted to do the H two
Speaker 5: rail line that was going to come up to Manchester.
Speaker 1: And again like this, George, but I do totally that's
Speaker 1: not even the fucking off. You know, we don't way
Speaker 1: further nof than that. Yeah, well Manchester, Birmingham is the
Speaker 1: city is second city as such, but I think it's
Speaker 1: probably more Manchester. We're like, I don't want to say
Speaker 1: the London of the north, but it's becoming that. I said,
Speaker 1: what it used to look like when I was a
Speaker 1: kid to what it looks like now is a million
Speaker 1: times different.
Speaker 5: It's fucking ship.
Speaker 3: England as a whole looks completely different from when you
Speaker 3: were a kid. It's very it's very Islamic these days,
Speaker 3: very much is. I know you can't speak on that
Speaker 3: because you don't have freedom of speech, but we can
Speaker 3: and uh yeah, that that is a whole cultural shift
Speaker 3: that is happening in your country.
Speaker 1: Brother, Oh fucking now, the you know the bad thing
Speaker 1: about it as well, Like obviously mean, I'm a college
Speaker 1: shooter and I don't know how, but I am. I
Speaker 1: think I'm the only person that apply for the job
Speaker 1: the college I go to. Obviously, there is a lot
Speaker 1: of Muslims like oh that I'll tell you about lovely people. Sure.
Speaker 5: I think every culture has got its own problems.
Speaker 1: As such, it's a shame that there's a few wrong
Speaker 1: ones that can make everything.
Speaker 3: But it's not the It's not the people who happen
Speaker 3: to be the religion of Muslim right that, that's not
Speaker 3: the issue. It's the migrants that have gotten there within
Speaker 3: the last five years and they've given them a bad name. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3: You know, you've had a very You've had a very
Speaker 3: strong Pakistani population in England for years and years and
Speaker 3: years and they've never had issues. They've never had problems
Speaker 3: for decades. The PACKI fucking food joints have been rocking.
Speaker 3: Everybody's cool with them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, fucking hell.
Speaker 5: I think Masala is the national dish that was such
Speaker 5: it is now fucking right. I think it's been for
Speaker 5: a while and there's always been this.
Speaker 1: I'm going to try. I can't do the full cut
Speaker 1: any thing where it's like on the way home from
Speaker 1: the pub, IM going to go and get a ruby Murray,
Speaker 1: which is correct. Yeah, you know, it's you know, and then.
Speaker 5: The culture is not the.
Speaker 1: Problem as such, it's it's certain people of the culture,
Speaker 1: like say, I'm half Jamaican, and I get this is
Speaker 1: one of what I said. But when it comes to
Speaker 1: the books, one of the main reasons of why to
Speaker 1: do it was the stereotype that comes from being half Jamaican.
Speaker 5: Might I always got the oh, did you not have dreadlocks?
Speaker 5: No he didn't, did a small weed?
Speaker 1: No he didn't.
Speaker 5: Why not because he wasn't a rastafar far and that
Speaker 5: that's a very very small section of population that do that.
Speaker 5: But because people have this image and that that that's
Speaker 5: what Jamaican.
Speaker 2: It is, you know, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's the same with obviously, like the Muslim community.
Speaker 1: It's like, I tell you what the actual community itself.
Speaker 5: That you can't the ira community.
Speaker 1: Like, so one of the lads to work with they
Speaker 1: go to obviously, he goes to the mosque every Friday
Speaker 1: and he pray. He does the praying five times a
Speaker 1: day and stuff, which I do commend him for because
Speaker 1: that's my dinner and I fucking gonna go and wash
Speaker 1: my feet and you know, get changed and go and
Speaker 1: pray for that. I know we are a person in work.
Speaker 1: I'd take the piss out of him about it. I
Speaker 1: don't know whether this is true or not by else.
Speaker 1: If it is product rave about he said of the
Speaker 1: free Mason, Okay, you like to challenge. I don't know everything,
Speaker 1: but I know a little bit, and I like to
Speaker 1: challenge your money about certain questions and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know a bit the answers. But I'm also
Speaker 1: off the opinion, like, if you wear a free Mason,
Speaker 1: I don't think you'd be running wrong on everybody.
Speaker 5: You're a fucking free Mason.
Speaker 3: So here's an easy question to ask him. So if
Speaker 3: he's a Freemason, be like, oh, so you're a traveler,
Speaker 3: and see what he says. There's a response. If he
Speaker 3: says yes, and say okay, so what direction are you traveling?
Speaker 2: This will tell you. If he says east to west
Speaker 2: or west to east, that will tell you if he's
Speaker 2: full of shit or not.
Speaker 1: Let me ride back down.
Speaker 3: So free Masons consider themselves all travelers. And that's like
Speaker 3: a passing phrase. You'll see somebody with a Masonic green
Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, what's going on. I see you're
Speaker 3: a traveler as well. And they'll be like, oh, oh,
Speaker 3: you're traveling too, and he's just like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm always a plumbing square and always on the level.
Speaker 3: And then that's these little passing things that they'll say
Speaker 3: to each other kind of like like g check each other.
Speaker 3: And then whenever you ask him what direction they're traveling.
Speaker 3: So the sun rises in the east, right, and so
Speaker 3: usually a younger may some will say they are traveling
Speaker 3: from the west to the east because they're going towards.
Speaker 2: The enlightenment, towards the knowledge, towards the ship.
Speaker 3: If they say they're coming from the east to the west,
Speaker 3: that's supposed to mean that they are a higher level
Speaker 3: free mason and that they have obtained that knowledge and
Speaker 3: now they're going back towards the west towards the unenlightened
Speaker 3: to enlighten them and bring them back towards the east.
Speaker 3: So depending on how he answers that in his justification
Speaker 3: for that answer, we'll tell you if he's full of
Speaker 3: shit or not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't don't get I look, the guy's a
Speaker 5: bit he's a fucking character.
Speaker 1: I'm fucking know, Like he does have some stories and
Speaker 1: we all, well, I think we've all like Cotton. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's full of shit. Well, like I said
Speaker 1: that the lot that was doing the praying five times today,
Speaker 1: I said to him, I'll be. He was asking me
Speaker 1: about Masons, and I want, I want, I mean, I
Speaker 1: might be wrong with this book. I imagine it's like
Speaker 1: when you go to mosque and I explained how the
Speaker 1: Masons work, and he went, I went like, if you
Speaker 1: need a job doing, I mean you're going to swim
Speaker 1: and the moss first wall. He's like, yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: And if you if you knew someone that needed doing something,
Speaker 1: you'd automatically recommend someone from the mosque. And when it's
Speaker 1: probably your own little community. I'm not saying it's a
Speaker 1: secret society. Society's secrets went, but you're a community that
Speaker 1: everyone tends to get on with.
Speaker 2: You take care of your own for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's probably like the Masons there, and yeah, a
Speaker 5: lot of the lads didn't work. They all do take
Speaker 5: care of each other.
Speaker 1: They might not know each other as such, but the
Speaker 1: Ari community, and it's that's where it's a nice thing
Speaker 1: to see where it's over it again, I probably pissing
Speaker 1: loads of people off, but I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't see what I see. So a lot of
Speaker 1: the Muslim lads in the place where I work, they
Speaker 1: don't know each other, but they look at and go
Speaker 1: obviously they'll call themselves brothers and stuff, and it's like
Speaker 1: it's one of mine over there, Whereas like I was
Speaker 1: just saying now about the whole thing, it actually ties
Speaker 1: really well, it's actually talking about the whole UK thing.
Speaker 1: I go thirty miles down the road to Liverpool and
Speaker 1: they just think them completely different.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: If a musclim from Manchester goes to Liverpool and there's
Speaker 5: a Muslim from there, it's just you're one of the brothers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where it's the nice thing. Like you say,
Speaker 1: the problem at the minute is is the the the
Speaker 1: infiltration of the ones that are coming at the minute,
Speaker 1: which again I mean obviously being the conspiracy minded animal,
Speaker 1: like what is it the best way to not so
Speaker 1: much win a whar But I've always said, like I
Speaker 1: don't think it'll ever be a world war for you now,
Speaker 1: because why would you go and destroy things you didn't
Speaker 1: fold trade from the inside like a fucking.
Speaker 2: Like an infestation. Yeah, you wouldn't want to a virus.
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to be the leader over the rubble anymore.
Speaker 3: It's a lot, it's a lot more pragmatic to take
Speaker 3: over from the inside out the virus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, lack of virus. It sounds really bad saying
Speaker 1: obviously they're a virus. But it's in fultration, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean you if you want to upset a business,
Speaker 1: you're gonna put someone there that's gonna fuck the business
Speaker 1: up about anyone barely knowing until it's too late.
Speaker 2: Corporate. Absolutely, Yeah, that's been nice.
Speaker 1: That's the word I was looking for, you know, because
Speaker 1: I've said to people like old on Man, everything's done
Speaker 1: on computers these days.
Speaker 5: Obvious, you've got to go in and change a few
Speaker 5: fucking details and you can fuck a country up. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: why would you go newt somewhere? You know, what can
Speaker 5: you do with that? You send a couple of people into,
Speaker 5: you know, change a few figures.
Speaker 1: You know. I say it was talking about the canal
Speaker 1: that obviously we don't have anything coming in and ow
Speaker 1: you're going to fuck up a canal for a few days.
Speaker 5: What happens? What was the bridge that clapsed. Well, you
Speaker 5: didn't get claps that that boat hit.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 5: Last year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, last year it was. It was in Baltimore.
Speaker 6: I think maybe there was like two different ones, wasn't there.
Speaker 3: I know there was one where a bridge clubs because
Speaker 3: a boat hit one of the one of the stanchions
Speaker 3: or one of the support beams for it, and it
Speaker 3: shut it down for a little bit and people were
Speaker 3: losing their minds. But uh, yeah, and that was that
Speaker 3: was a pretty critical one because that bridge led to
Speaker 3: the highway that fed most of the state its resources.
Speaker 5: And it's not it's not hard to fuck of people
Speaker 5: up these days.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've had it over there, But
Speaker 1: when the COVID started, and I'm going way back here,
Speaker 1: but fucking there was this thing about toilet roll.
Speaker 3: Jeez, yes, toilet paper became like a commodity for no reason.
Speaker 3: There was no shortage. People just start because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can implant a little seed these days and
Speaker 1: watch people go fucking nuts.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: I like saying an infestation of a certain person to
Speaker 1: come fox something like we have it over there now
Speaker 1: where it's with the migrant hotels and stuff, and you
Speaker 1: get people outside protesting. It's like, do you not see
Speaker 1: you just playing into the system here, you know, just
Speaker 1: go back your business. You know, it's standing outside the
Speaker 1: hotel fucking screaming, effing and jeff and and thrown ship.
Speaker 1: All you're doing to day is r in the hotel's business.
Speaker 1: You know, the people inside don't fucking care. They just
Speaker 1: move to the next one. You know. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of videos I watched, well, you know,
Speaker 1: the people in your toells fucking first.
Speaker 5: Of all, for the way most of them are right, But.
Speaker 3: But it's also, like I'm saying, it's the cultural assimilation, right,
Speaker 3: And it's not because they happen to be Muslim. It's
Speaker 3: because they're coming from a country whose culture does not
Speaker 3: mesh well with British culture. It could have been from
Speaker 3: anywhere in Sub Saharan Africa where their culture doesn't really
Speaker 3: blend well with British culture.
Speaker 2: And y'all have the same issues.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I.
Speaker 1: Say I think there's a bigger finger handed then, Like
Speaker 1: I said, when I when I when I got talking
Speaker 1: about the box, You'll see where I'm coming from. It's
Speaker 1: it's tough because so obviously, like well obviously all of
Speaker 1: my grandpats moved over. There is the wind rush generation
Speaker 1: and it was so similar that with the racism, and
Speaker 1: you know, these are coming over, these are taking new jobs,
Speaker 1: These are this and that, And I mean I've got
Speaker 1: I know people that are my age. I'm thirty seven.
Speaker 1: I fucking hadly work today in the life. It's like
Speaker 1: coming to take your job, like you've never fucking worked anyway.
Speaker 1: You know, they're not all coming to take your job.
Speaker 1: It's very different than it was a few years ago
Speaker 1: with the migrants coming over now, because when it used
Speaker 1: to be like people would come over to work. I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem coming with anybody that wants to
Speaker 1: do a job and make a better life for themselves,
Speaker 1: you know, fucking fair. But that's that's what Britain's built on,
Speaker 1: you know, that's why it's called Great Britain.
Speaker 5: We went out and we I don't want to say colonized,
Speaker 5: but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a third of the world and you know,
Speaker 1: we like to I'd like to say it took the
Speaker 1: best of certain parts of certain cultures and brought it
Speaker 1: back and made it our own culture.
Speaker 5: Like this is this all massive thing about what he's
Speaker 5: culture and all that shit.
Speaker 1: I don't know the technical term, but you know, we
Speaker 1: went to China and India and brought teapock and obiums.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, Yeah, the best of the culture.
Speaker 1: If you know what I'm went to it to grease
Speaker 1: and brought fish and chips back, and we went to
Speaker 1: this place and we brought this back and we took
Speaker 1: the best of things and you know, made it culture well,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: And Britain's not the only one that did that.
Speaker 3: By the way, when anybody thinks of Italian cuisine, for
Speaker 3: the record, noodles they stole that from the Asians. Tomatoes
Speaker 3: they stole that from Mexico, like that, all of the
Speaker 3: Italian cuisine you're thinking of. If it's not literally just
Speaker 3: like fish sauce on some bread, Yeah, it's stolen.
Speaker 5: So for sure, Well, I mean, is it fucking stolen?
Speaker 5: Don't belong to anybody technically, you know.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, appropriated, Uh, made their own whatever.
Speaker 1: Version of that.
Speaker 7: I mean the way that culture works, like the term
Speaker 7: itself as where it shared beliefs, values and practices of
Speaker 7: a specific group and that encompasses like cuisine, language, art,
Speaker 7: social media behaviors. That kind of stuff and how they
Speaker 7: identify as that specific group, and then when you're sharing cultures,
Speaker 7: then that's a hard difference. That's the hardest thing I
Speaker 7: guess for people is the sharing of cultures because people
Speaker 7: are feeling like their things are being appropriated. And that
Speaker 7: term didn't come about though, until I think the last
Speaker 7: like fifteen years. I would have to like, I'm not
Speaker 7: one hundred percent certain, but I know that it's one.
Speaker 1: Lesson not to tiny like I say, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is what I look at and go, oh, that guy's
Speaker 1: doing not over.
Speaker 5: That I've never done that.
Speaker 1: I like that, I'm going to do it. I don't
Speaker 1: think that personal, but that is going to have a
Speaker 1: problem me doing it. You might see something that I
Speaker 1: do that he's never done.
Speaker 2: I think the term appropriate it depends on if you're
Speaker 2: doing it in an insulting way.
Speaker 6: Though, oh, I was actually wrong.
Speaker 7: It was coined in the late nineteen eighties, excuse me,
Speaker 7: but but again in academic discussion and cultural studies really
Speaker 7: in the last like a decade or so. The freeze
Speaker 7: describes an adoption of elements from one culture by another,
Speaker 7: often without permission.
Speaker 6: Is what the technical term is.
Speaker 3: But there's a difference between, for instance, Greek and Lebanese
Speaker 3: restaurants getting a euro right and and loving that.
Speaker 2: That's not appropriating the culture.
Speaker 3: However, wearing blackface and throwing on dreadlocks and trying to speak.
Speaker 2: Of the ross foreign accent as like an insulting way
Speaker 2: to the culture. There's there's a level here, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's why it becomes that extremely fine line between.
Speaker 1: Like I'll say, when the learners find out obviously, when
Speaker 1: when you ask men, you know, in my Jamaican they
Speaker 1: all try and do the accent and you all ask me,
Speaker 1: I don't really give a shit. I didn't like to
Speaker 1: teach and go. Actually that's a little bit wrong. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's not a problem.
Speaker 5: I don't get offended by it.
Speaker 1: It's it's when people now, I think we've become an
Speaker 1: offense culture where it's so easy to fucking say anything
Speaker 1: to anyone these days and to get soapset power, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, man.
Speaker 2: The words are fucking violence these days. Bro, haven't you heard?
Speaker 6: My neighbor is actually English and Jamaican.
Speaker 7: Ironically enough, I was sitting here thinking about my neighbor
Speaker 7: across the street, and she she was born in England
Speaker 7: and her family is half Jamaican and she goes back
Speaker 7: all the time, and.
Speaker 6: So I was just thinking about some of the stuff
Speaker 6: that we talk about.
Speaker 7: She's she's amazing, but she said even that people get
Speaker 7: up in arms that she's that she's technically English, and
Speaker 7: she that she's even born there because she is darker
Speaker 7: complexion African American woman, but her mom is white and
Speaker 7: from the UK, and so the people get all upset
Speaker 7: and that she, you know, doesn't appear to be white.
Speaker 1: Obviously, you can see the way I look.
Speaker 5: I get confused with everything.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, you got the racial ambiguous going on here.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 6: You could be you do look like a couple of
Speaker 6: different things, to be honest, you.
Speaker 3: Could be Italian, you could be Greek, you could be Moroccan.
Speaker 3: We don't fucking know, dude. You can play the card.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I do get the I always
Speaker 1: get the the only way.
Speaker 5: This is the only thing that kisses me off for sick,
Speaker 5: and it's the way.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 1: No one means that there's an offensive, but I don't
Speaker 1: think sometimes I don't think they realize what to saying it, Like,
Speaker 1: what are you like? Meanwhile, what a fucking human being.
Speaker 1: First of all, oh yeah, but you know, what do
Speaker 1: you mean? Where are you from from? And then this
Speaker 1: is this is the one that really gets me. It's
Speaker 1: always they always yeah, obviously you can see on camera
Speaker 1: and learn his can't the listeners?
Speaker 5: Sorry can't.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to try and obviously a picture or
Speaker 1: words it. You're always leaning where you're really from? Fucking
Speaker 1: told you around? Yeah, yeah, that's what about your parents?
Speaker 1: And when when they say what about your parents? I
Speaker 1: always do this, ago, what's it? More like? They always
Speaker 1: go that's I always usually no, you want to ask me?
Speaker 1: So you know what you can say around me?
Speaker 2: You know where?
Speaker 1: Where?
Speaker 2: Where?
Speaker 1: Where do I draw the race line?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 5: You know whether I'm not.
Speaker 1: Saying a certain thing, you know, like I I say
Speaker 1: I'm because like I say, you can see me. I
Speaker 1: could pass for a number of a few things. Ever,
Speaker 1: say I'm amazing, I know this conversation is off limit.
Speaker 1: Or I don't say this, or say I'm Italian, don't
Speaker 1: say this, I have A'm African.
Speaker 5: Well I know not to say this. As soon as
Speaker 5: I go, oh, Mars Jamaican.
Speaker 1: It's always, like I say, it's normally the accent, which
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me.
Speaker 2: None can fucking do it anyway, right.
Speaker 5: So it's the the stereotypical questions which used to really
Speaker 5: annoy me. But it's like I've learned with that's.
Speaker 1: What people know these days instead of me getting annoyed
Speaker 1: about the ALB will obviously tell people, but then it's
Speaker 1: always you can see like a certain look on the
Speaker 1: face where they can go, oh, now I can talk
Speaker 1: to this person about this. Yeah, when they always go
Speaker 1: that's the only thing when it does.
Speaker 5: What I it's like, you just want to know what
Speaker 5: I answer?
Speaker 1: You know what you can say around me, like you're
Speaker 1: saying there before about obviously I'm Manchester United fan.
Speaker 5: You know I was a city fan. That the conversation
Speaker 5: goes a slightly different way because you know.
Speaker 3: Not you know, you know, no I stort of talked
Speaker 3: that ship regardless. I'll be honest, but yeah, I know
Speaker 3: what you mean though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well there's there's certain things like when I went
Speaker 1: to Scotland, there was a lad that works up there
Speaker 1: and the first thing he said to me, if anyone
Speaker 1: else you're a football fan, just time you don't like football.
Speaker 1: I was like, why, It's like it's just easier. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, well I support a team in Scotland.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but they'll try and link it to if
Speaker 1: I if I say I'm a United fan automatically trying
Speaker 1: to makes me I could be wrong on this, but
Speaker 1: it makes me a Rangers fan because of the Fergie
Speaker 1: and the Scotland thing, and I'm not a Celtic fan,
Speaker 1: which then I'm from the fucking same country. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: then becomes a bit of a problem, you know. So
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just easy not to say, Oh I.
Speaker 3: Thought it would because they were trying to associate it
Speaker 3: with like a hooligan firm or something, which I don't
Speaker 3: even know if those are still popping off anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's as big as you used to
Speaker 1: bomber Well.
Speaker 5: I mean, the Celtic Rangers thing is obviously it's the
Speaker 5: Protestants and the Catholics.
Speaker 1: But I got to it's just easy if you don't
Speaker 1: say this, and then you go down to London and
Speaker 1: you know you're a certain fan of a certain team,
Speaker 1: you're apparently this, apparently that, so it's always good. That's
Speaker 1: how a lot of people are in the UK tend
Speaker 1: to get to know each other first, like a bunch
Speaker 1: of guys meet up, normally one of the first questions,
Speaker 1: but team to put when you find out what that
Speaker 1: team is, that you can you know what you can say. Yeah,
Speaker 1: actually finding out what my race is. Someone knows what
Speaker 1: they can say to me. Again, like I said, if
Speaker 1: you're a bit unsure about a certain accent, more about
Speaker 1: you from from such a thing like so you have
Speaker 1: there's a place called Sunderland, which is a little bit north.
Speaker 5: Of I think it's north of Newcastle.
Speaker 1: Their accents are extremely similar if you get them mixed up.
Speaker 1: So if I want to speak to a Jarda and like,
Speaker 1: where are you from, I'm from Newcastle or something like that,
Speaker 1: fucking someone a wank is, aren't there? Yeah? Yeah, if
Speaker 1: he was to speak to someone from Sunderland, where are
Speaker 1: you from? And from something fucking j Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: it's automatically I'm gonna ask this person this question, so
Speaker 1: I know what I can say, yeah, without not so
Speaker 1: much offending.
Speaker 5: But I want to offend the right person, not the
Speaker 5: wrong person.
Speaker 2: But there's it depends on again, it depends on intent.
Speaker 3: If you're if you're going this direction just to kind
Speaker 3: of give and take the piss, then fine, okay, and
Speaker 3: it's it's.
Speaker 2: About the spirit of it.
Speaker 3: But you'll have people that, uh, I try, and I'm
Speaker 3: not the best at this, but I try to not
Speaker 3: attribute to malice what could be easily attributed to ignorance. Right, Like,
Speaker 3: for instance, with a Jamaican accent, most people whenever they
Speaker 3: find out your have to make and they start trying
Speaker 3: to speak to you, like they just watch Cool Runnings
Speaker 3: for the first time. They're not trying to offend your
Speaker 3: father's culture. They're ignorant and they think they're being funny.
Speaker 3: So it's like, Okay, I know you're not being malicious,
Speaker 3: you're just really annoying, and like, I could understand this, right,
Speaker 3: but there are people that will maliciously start saying some shit.
Speaker 3: It's you try not to attribute malice to what could
Speaker 3: be attributed to ignorance.
Speaker 2: But I mean it's case by case.
Speaker 7: That's a lot of people go to the South, Oh
Speaker 7: for sure, feel like the Southern accent is a big
Speaker 7: thing in America, and so people when they hear that
Speaker 7: you're from the South, they'll start in on the super
Speaker 7: twenty swurd together word accents that don't make any sense.
Speaker 7: Which now, granted, there are some people in some places
Speaker 7: around here that have some strong accents, and like your conversation,
Speaker 7: your conversation with that Scottish dude where you didn't understand.
Speaker 7: When I first moved here, I met people that had
Speaker 7: such a strong accent it I literally sat there for
Speaker 7: forty five minutes not understanding a single word like that
Speaker 7: they said at all.
Speaker 6: My ex's grandfather was one of those people.
Speaker 7: It took me like a solid six years to understand
Speaker 7: half of what he said, just because he had such
Speaker 7: a strong on Cajun French accent, and he slurred his
Speaker 7: words together and he had a really gravelly voice, and
Speaker 7: so it was very hard for me to understand. I'd
Speaker 7: sit next to him in my ear damn nearing next
Speaker 7: to his mouth just to understand what he said.
Speaker 6: But that's the stereotypical. As you're from the.
Speaker 7: South, so you like these certain things, you talk a
Speaker 7: certain way, and then when we had there's shows that
Speaker 7: have perpetuated the stereotypes.
Speaker 3: And that's the other thing too, speaking with a Southern accent.
Speaker 3: I have worked so hard to lose my Southern accent.
Speaker 3: It comes out sometimes, but even still, Louisiana southern doesn't
Speaker 3: sound like Georgia Southern.
Speaker 2: Right, But it doesn't matter what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: If you speak with a thick Southern drawl, I could
Speaker 3: be explaining to you what the Higgs Bojon particle is
Speaker 3: and how it's actually the God particle and how it
Speaker 3: gives Adams there atomic mayas instantly you probably think I
Speaker 3: fucked my cousin on the side, because like that's the
Speaker 3: Southern accent comes with a few stereotypes that are not accurate.
Speaker 2: But because that has been perpetrated for so many times,
Speaker 2: labbery knocks. What the fuck is a slober knocker?
Speaker 1: I grew up as a wrestling fund and not some
Speaker 1: j I you so always oh.
Speaker 2: God, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: But my point is, yeah, the cads and accent, there's
Speaker 3: a bunch of stereotypes to good associated with that, the
Speaker 3: Southern American accent.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of that gets associated with that, as
Speaker 2: well as the West Coast as well as big cities.
Speaker 3: The North has a way different accent than us, and
Speaker 3: we attribute that was snobbery, you know, in the South,
Speaker 3: and it's sure the North is.
Speaker 6: Just snobs, you know, quote unquote.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I said, we have we have it over there.
Speaker 1: But like I said, a bunch smaller London. London to
Speaker 1: me is massive. Obviously to use it won't be fun me.
Speaker 1: You can go to London like so you can drive
Speaker 1: five minutes down the road is totally different, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean like you go to Chelsea and go to
Speaker 1: Brixton pot Well not not a totally different world.
Speaker 3: For the record, that's why I'm a Manchester fan is
Speaker 3: because while I was in the Marine Corps, buddy of
Speaker 3: mine was a huge Chelsea fan and I came in
Speaker 3: his room one day and he was watching the Chelsea
Speaker 3: United play Manchester and then just to give him ship,
Speaker 3: I'd be started cheering for Manchester. And since then it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm sucking Reds fan.
Speaker 2: Is what it is.
Speaker 1: It's not Manchester, it's United United.
Speaker 5: Manchester.
Speaker 1: Most people you think City, then yeah it's true and
Speaker 1: you yeah, because there's this thing with City fans where
Speaker 1: they've got Manchester. Manchester United is not even in Manchester.
Speaker 1: It's you. That's why it's called United. It's the areas
Speaker 1: around Manchester United, you know, fucking hell.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's very it's it's extremely fucking mad.
Speaker 1: They might say you go to Liverpool and You've got
Speaker 1: Liverpool Evan Everton separated by a fucking park. Yeah, it's ridiculous,
Speaker 1: but like you're saying now, like you when people ask
Speaker 1: me what I am, it's it's normal to find out
Speaker 1: what they can say. And that the whole culture appropriation.
Speaker 5: I can't even say the word is.
Speaker 1: It's more like I say, you don't want to offend someone,
Speaker 1: but I think in the time we are now, I
Speaker 1: think that's the It's like the race card.
Speaker 5: Offended.
Speaker 1: I've never once used the race card in my life,
Speaker 1: but I think now because people can use this, I'm
Speaker 1: offended being so fucking much. It's kind of played out
Speaker 1: and a lot of it, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: it fucking falls. I mean, I don't get offended by anything.
Speaker 1: There's nothing that'll offend me. Something might piss me off,
Speaker 1: but it won't offend me. It's more just the there's
Speaker 1: sometimes like I look at it, like when people do
Speaker 1: do the accenting, they do do it in the piss taking,
Speaker 1: where I do just look at them going it's the
Speaker 1: fucking asshole, lie right as the person I don't want
Speaker 1: to deal with, and I'll educate them a little bit
Speaker 1: on certain things, like you do realize that, you know,
Speaker 1: that's not really funny, is it.
Speaker 2: But Britain's humor is also very different than American humor.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm but if you were to come
Speaker 1: over I mean obviously not you personally, even American must
Speaker 1: have come over it, they probably would be fended by
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 5: But we're very sarcastic and dry, yeah, you know, which
Speaker 5: I love.
Speaker 1: We're not right in your face, you know, we are
Speaker 1: very very dry and sarcastic, which you know, I think
Speaker 1: that's one of the other things about the people from
Speaker 1: certain cultures coming over it or certain areas.
Speaker 5: They don't understand the full human.
Speaker 1: And I do get it a little bit obviously from
Speaker 1: here right and then obviously depending on where I mean.
Speaker 1: I like to think I'm a fucking funny guy, you know,
Speaker 1: the funniest. I agree, and I mean, my my, I'm
Speaker 1: extremely sarcastic. And even sometimes when I've just gone like
Speaker 1: I probably sound like a fucking as that person's probably
Speaker 1: not got what I've said.
Speaker 2: But you can't please them all, dude, you can't please
Speaker 2: you can't.
Speaker 5: But the the the culture, I can't say that a
Speaker 5: culture of appropriation, is it?
Speaker 2: That's the one Yeah, if I.
Speaker 5: Look at someone that does something that I've never done.
Speaker 1: Like you were saying there about the Jamaican food a
Speaker 1: bit earlier, that wasn't a big thing when I grew up.
Speaker 1: Fucking everybody loves it now. Yeah, well that's the case
Speaker 1: of well, when it's become big and you can enjoy it,
Speaker 1: and I don't give a shit you fucking cooks it.
Speaker 5: You might not cook it as much as you might
Speaker 5: cook it better than a fucking Jamaican.
Speaker 2: You know, could be to that person because.
Speaker 5: I when you've brought something work and they've gone, O,
Speaker 5: what's it like? Right, it's fine?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, well, am I fucking testing?
Speaker 3: But cultural food has also become a very popular thing.
Speaker 3: It always has been, I understand throughout the course of history.
Speaker 3: I get that, But specifically Caribbean food, Jamaican food, a
Speaker 3: good oxtail stew, a good curry goat, or a conk meat,
Speaker 3: this type of stuff is not something that a lot
Speaker 3: of people outside of Jamaica would know about unless they've
Speaker 3: seen it on the tiktoks or on the instagrams or
Speaker 3: whatever else. So when they find a Jamaican joint in
Speaker 3: their area, they're like, really, wanting to know what this
Speaker 3: is like. But that's not even real yardy food. That's
Speaker 3: more of like that's like the fish and chips to Britain.
Speaker 3: That's not what you would consider real British food. That's
Speaker 3: more like the cultural icon food, which is still good
Speaker 3: I fox with these dishes I just named, but traditional
Speaker 3: real yardy food is completely different from that. But so
Speaker 3: many people want to have an authentic experience. They want
Speaker 3: to be like in the No, they want to be
Speaker 3: a citizen of the world. So a lot of these
Speaker 3: types of cultural references aren't being done in in an
Speaker 3: appropriation type of way. They're genuine curiosity and that's good.
Speaker 3: But you'll have that asshole that will like go out
Speaker 3: of his way to be a dick and make jokes
Speaker 3: and he's doing it in an asshole way, and it's like, well, great,
Speaker 3: now you ruin the party for everybody.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, Like I say, like when they've brought
Speaker 1: things in work and stuff and you've gone, what's it like,
Speaker 1: and like, well it's nice, oh yeah, but is it proper?
Speaker 5: And like what's like you said it? Well, yes, my.
Speaker 1: Dad's made chicken first when we were younger. Now that again,
Speaker 1: there is a Jamaica is fucking smaller than obviously in
Speaker 1: fucking probably Whales. When my dad made it, my dad
Speaker 1: was from Saint Cafriy modinateing for like a week. Remember,
Speaker 1: we were all smelling on the side and I can't
Speaker 1: wait to try it, can't wait to try this.
Speaker 2: It touched my tongue literal ass on fire.
Speaker 1: Oh fuck me out. I couldn't fucking you know, literally,
Speaker 1: you know I've got it on the foart there smells
Speaker 1: fuck me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, British people don't get down with a lot of spice.
Speaker 5: From what I've learned, I really don't now.
Speaker 1: When I was older, my ex her her mum was
Speaker 1: half Jamaican and her boyfriend was Jamaican.
Speaker 5: He made jerk chicken. He's from Kingston. Yeah, Saint Catharine
Speaker 5: Kingston are extremely close. It was totally different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could eat it. You know.
Speaker 5: It's like say when people go.
Speaker 3: Through Yeah, in Louisiana, gumbo is a cultural dish, but
Speaker 3: depending on what city you go into depends on how they.
Speaker 2: Make it, and they can be completely different but still
Speaker 2: be considered the same dish.
Speaker 7: Yeah, every single person is different. I have gumbo in
Speaker 7: my fridge right now that that's a different type of
Speaker 7: gumbo then, like I could get down the street. It's
Speaker 7: not like my favorite way of making gumbo.
Speaker 6: It was given to me.
Speaker 7: But I mean the ruse alone, the base of it
Speaker 7: tastes different for each person that makes it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's like me and Louise, like when we make
Speaker 1: some of our meals, were cooking in the same fucking kitchen,
Speaker 1: and it's it's slightly different.
Speaker 5: I might put a bit more salt in our a
Speaker 5: bit more pepper, and she might not put this and that.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it's but like it when it comes
Speaker 1: to the culture, if that person is doing something over
Speaker 1: there that you've never done but you want to try,
Speaker 1: or you want to Like fair enough, there being an
Speaker 1: ass like blackface, I don't want. Well, I get where
Speaker 1: that comes from. Doing it in twenty twenty five. I
Speaker 1: think you're just a count right, digging someone out who
Speaker 1: did it twenty years ago.
Speaker 5: Like old on a minute.
Speaker 1: You know, we've all done things in the past we're
Speaker 1: probably not proud of, but at the time they weren't
Speaker 1: that bad.
Speaker 3: It depends on the intent even then though, because sometimes
Speaker 3: even twenty years ago or even thirty years ago, it
Speaker 3: was done in a very racist way.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it was because it was a costume party and
Speaker 3: they wanted to go dress his jaint or Bob Marley, okay,
Speaker 3: and like they weren't shitting on people with black skin.
Speaker 2: It was for that principle, and like, okay, I can
Speaker 2: understand that.
Speaker 3: But then there's other cases, even thirty forty years ago,
Speaker 3: where it was done very very incorrectly, and it depends.
Speaker 1: But not not to defend that, but at that time
Speaker 1: that was the norm. Yeah, you know, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: I'm not defend do not get wrong, I'm not defending it.
Speaker 1: But like that was just a nom then you know,
Speaker 1: like I say, a guy in his fucking sixties now
Speaker 1: we did that in his thirties thirty year ago, when
Speaker 1: that was the norm. You know, it would have just
Speaker 1: been him doing it, would have been everyone. And at
Speaker 1: the time it was like, yeah, it's a bit racist.
Speaker 1: But then Dak is over there. They don't fucking mind,
Speaker 1: or do they you know what I mean, They're not
Speaker 1: saying anything about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think with.
Speaker 1: I think with the Internet now bringing everyone closer together,
Speaker 1: and it's made it so it is easy to get
Speaker 1: offended about certain things, because it's like, now you can
Speaker 1: be offended on someone else's behalf. Yeah, for sure, And
Speaker 1: like we had it in work where the beginning of
Speaker 1: this year we moved into the staff room and I'm
Speaker 1: quite loud and by I don't give a fuck I one,
Speaker 1: and I remember one of the guys turning next to him.
Speaker 1: I was like, he might have to calim it down
Speaker 1: a little bit, because if someone takes offense to something
Speaker 1: you say, they'll just go telling you. And I was like,
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be fucking grown up to here. If
Speaker 1: I say something to somebody else, what what what the
Speaker 1: that got to do with person over there?
Speaker 3: But dude, even on a construction site with grown ups
Speaker 3: in the smoke pit, we started getting reprimanded for it.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't even like offensive humor.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like we were making racist jokes or anything
Speaker 3: like that, just talking the dumb ships as grown men
Speaker 3: do when they're alone, and they talk the dumb shit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: somebody from the office happened to be walking by and
Speaker 3: heard it and got offended, and it's like, well, you
Speaker 3: ain't even supposed to be in the field. Go back
Speaker 3: to the office, like you're supposed to be with those people.
Speaker 3: We were with our people, like what the fuck? And
Speaker 3: it's yeah, it's a thing.
Speaker 1: Well, when it was like that, I just looked and fart.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just looking round and fun, you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get my laptop. I'm gonna get my
Speaker 1: computer screen. And as much as I wanted to get
Speaker 1: out of a workshop, it's like, I'm just gonna hump
Speaker 1: up my desk back in the workshop. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and I just stay there now.
Speaker 5: And then it made it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say uncomfortable, but I'm looking on going, Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'm not changing me for because
Speaker 1: someone might take offense to something I might say to
Speaker 1: somebody else that has nothing to do with anybody.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 2: This is why we're not on YouTube.
Speaker 3: This is literally why we're now on YouTube because I
Speaker 3: can't self censor and I'm horrible at it. I'm if
Speaker 3: we're talking about somebody that committed suicide, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: say they self deleted themselves.
Speaker 2: I can't. I'm not going to change my language. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I don't have it in me, and why should you.
Speaker 1: That's where I was talking about, like this infestation before
Speaker 1: about obviously, like you know, bringing people in now, there's
Speaker 1: certain things you can't say because you'll be blocked. And
Speaker 1: it's it's.
Speaker 5: The system that's the problem.
Speaker 1: It's not the person, it's the system. Now he's making
Speaker 1: these problems, and it's a system that gives people that
Speaker 1: oh yeah, a little fucking no beds, a little bit
Speaker 1: of power, you know what I mean? And what's the
Speaker 1: saying power? Power corrupts absolutely.
Speaker 2: Absolute power, absolutely dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he gives someone a tiny bit of power on
Speaker 1: a little bit of leverage, and most people abuse it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: have anything really going for my life, but that person
Speaker 1: over there said something that I don't like, So I'm
Speaker 1: not going to go and tell on them because I
Speaker 1: have for.
Speaker 5: All else to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll have that a lot.
Speaker 5: It'll make me feel good for all the five minutes.
Speaker 1: Whereas you know, I've looked at it sometimes and do
Speaker 1: you realize ten years ago and that I have got
Speaker 1: your punch in the fucking face. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not enough adults that realize that that's still
Speaker 2: an option.
Speaker 1: But anyway, anyway, I'm of the opinion where I do
Speaker 1: look at some people, and you know, I've said I'm
Speaker 1: very open about this.
Speaker 5: I'm gone, you know what that person needs over there?
Speaker 5: Good fucking iding.
Speaker 1: I think very quickly about certain things that come out
Speaker 1: of that fucking mouth, because you've never had the the
Speaker 1: repercussion of saying something wrong I have, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I've got a fucking smack every now and again.
Speaker 5: I's to get off my parents when I was younger,
Speaker 5: say you know, I don't have to say that again. No,
Speaker 5: not to say that again.
Speaker 1: I don't have to say that again around this person
Speaker 1: because I don't know what I'm going to get, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we've we've gotten into a new generation of
Speaker 3: very soft people that are strong behind a keyboard, but
Speaker 3: face to face, like they forget that, like they can
Speaker 3: infect catch hands and like that is still a very
Speaker 3: viable well I'll call the police on and and like
Speaker 3: in my local area, I went to high school with
Speaker 3: most of the cops in this city, so like we
Speaker 3: can go that route and it's not like a threat.
Speaker 3: It's like we don't or or you could show respect
Speaker 3: and I show respect, and everybody just moves forward in
Speaker 3: a very comfortable and polite fashion.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: A lot of people have kind of lost touch with
Speaker 3: the reality of the repercussions of their words and writing
Speaker 3: a check that their ass now has to cash.
Speaker 2: That's that's something that a lot of this generation just
Speaker 2: does not acknowledge.
Speaker 1: And when they say, like obviously we're gone back to
Speaker 1: when we're talking about a wall before, like you know
Speaker 1: what reason they'll never be a war?
Speaker 5: Such like the fuck are you going.
Speaker 2: To get to go?
Speaker 5: Because they're all softsses, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I will say, at least in America we still
Speaker 3: have like the ones that are about that shit are
Speaker 3: still joining up. A lot of guys I served with
Speaker 3: that are still in And I've asked them that because
Speaker 3: you got like this younger generation, the eighteen year olds
Speaker 3: and nineteen year olds, like are they still like for
Speaker 3: the Marine Corps infantry where it was like are they
Speaker 3: still bloodthirsty? Like are they do they still want to
Speaker 3: go and like stack bodies and shit, They're like, oh no, no,
Speaker 3: they still do, Like we have those people. The rest
Speaker 3: of the the rest of this younger generation are so pussified.
Speaker 3: But at least the hard chargers, like they're still lining
Speaker 3: up at the door to come joined. So we're still
Speaker 3: set on our end. I'm like, yes, good, good, good,
Speaker 3: that makes me happy.
Speaker 1: I don't I mean, I don't think we have that really,
Speaker 1: uh not that I've seen anywhere. And we've had the
Speaker 1: Army coming to work a few times, and I've spoke
Speaker 1: to some of my learners like in the nicest way possible,
Speaker 1: like me, you've not really got a fucking chance of
Speaker 1: passing many courses. You do pass the course, you're probably
Speaker 1: not going to go. You have a far about the
Speaker 1: army and you can just see it. Fucking I'll say
Speaker 1: that to him. They like they want to cry, some
Speaker 1: of them like fuck.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, poor poor babies, all right. Right, So.
Speaker 3: With the background here, you're clearly British as all fuck here, right,
Speaker 3: And so with the books you mixed Haitian voodoo and
Speaker 3: you say Celtic and you're talking about like the Celtic,
Speaker 3: the Druids, the to that day. I knew this type
Speaker 3: of cultural myths and legends and lore and all these things,
Speaker 3: and you've combined these into your books.
Speaker 2: How did you get started with all of this?
Speaker 7: So? Uh?
Speaker 5: In two thousand and ten, my dad died.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear them.
Speaker 5: Oh, no, it's wait. It's a long time agoing out.
Speaker 1: And I've always had this finger my head, like I
Speaker 1: want to do a story about my dad.
Speaker 5: You know, I love my dad.
Speaker 1: Today, I've had this story running from head probviously Froup
Speaker 1: to fifteen years now. I've been working on it. You know,
Speaker 1: as I'm working, the story is going around in the
Speaker 1: headline I want to make a superhero. It is a
Speaker 1: bit of a shame that Jonathan's not here, because I
Speaker 1: do know he's a wrestling fund.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well so it was Raven by the way, Oh
Speaker 2: all right, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5: Know if you remember this character, but here was a
Speaker 5: character in the Early Night.
Speaker 1: It's called Papa Shango I do all right good and
Speaker 1: it was it was a voodoo guy. I remember the
Speaker 1: first time I seen him, and I was like, fucking hell,
Speaker 1: this guy is cool A ship scared me to death,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's scary anything, but I
Speaker 1: liked it straight away.
Speaker 2: Do look like Papa Legbud, didn't he?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: He had the top part and he had the schools
Speaker 1: and stuff, and he'd have a staff with a sculler
Speaker 1: and you know, smoke coming out face paint made the
Speaker 1: Autumn Warrior for Roping Ship. Well, yeah, it's just something
Speaker 1: I've always been interested since then, and as I started
Speaker 1: getting old, I'm like, well, I know, not so much
Speaker 1: in Jamaica, but obviously around the Caribbean and all these
Speaker 1: viewooing it goes back to African and stuff. So it's
Speaker 1: something I've always been interested in. So I was like, whatever,
Speaker 1: do this book and I make a super superhero. He's
Speaker 1: got voodoo powers, working on it, working on it. I
Speaker 1: ended up applying for the job on me now in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, which is I'm now college to teach
Speaker 1: accident repair. And since then my I grew up with
Speaker 1: dyslexia in ADHD, So back in the nineties, DYSLEXI was
Speaker 1: known about, but I don't think he was as known
Speaker 1: about it as what it is today, and ADHD was
Speaker 1: I don't think it fucking existed back then.
Speaker 5: So I was just classic disruptive and you know, lazy
Speaker 5: and stuff, and.
Speaker 1: Being in the age i'm now, and I think my
Speaker 1: teachers must have been massively frustrated with her because I
Speaker 1: knew a lot of the stuff.
Speaker 5: I didn't know what I'm going to say, I knew everything.
Speaker 5: I knew it all. I just couldn't do it. I
Speaker 5: couldn't read, I couldn't write. I left skill with an
Speaker 5: extremely low reading writing age. But obviously I put it
Speaker 5: down to I don't think.
Speaker 1: I can't say I wasn't helped because at the time
Speaker 1: I don't, and help was so much there of how
Speaker 1: to get to someone like me. Not just me, obviously
Speaker 1: people around my age that are struggling with the same thing, like,
Speaker 1: for instance, my brother, your mom or two brothers are
Speaker 1: both the same.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I've never really let it stop.
Speaker 1: Now. Remember I read my first book when I was
Speaker 1: twenty one. I found a holy Field all biographer excellent
Speaker 1: as Yeah, as I'm reading it and he's talking about
Speaker 1: the fights, I'm sat there and reading it and I
Speaker 1: know I'm bobbing on and weaving, and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: throwing these punches as he's talking about and fucking loved it.
Speaker 1: It took me, like you know, I can't remember how
Speaker 1: many months to get through it, and it was a struggle,
Speaker 1: but I did it. Since then, I've actually gone on
Speaker 1: to read loads of other books, and I got to
Speaker 1: that point, like I always, I started to understand why
Speaker 1: people are going Oh, the books are better than the
Speaker 1: films because you know, you're full on using your imagination
Speaker 1: and picturing the scenes and you know the accents and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So when I got my job, sat there.
Speaker 1: I remember walking down the corridor. Actually I think I
Speaker 1: only got the job because I'm the only and that
Speaker 1: applied for it. I'm walking down the corridor on my
Speaker 1: first day and we're walking through and I'm looking at
Speaker 1: all these fucking I don't want to say, kids, learners,
Speaker 1: and what the fuck am I doing? Like I I
Speaker 1: have a fucking read them writing.
Speaker 5: I was both to teach.
Speaker 1: What did this into the classroom where all the other
Speaker 1: teachers were having their meeting.
Speaker 5: I'm within about five minutes. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: And these are just tradesmen that just become teachers, which
Speaker 1: massive relaxed me. And I remember one of the tutors
Speaker 1: went that to me. He went, one of the secret
Speaker 1: souls you've got to do is just bullshit. And they
Speaker 1: are fucking cluaring on about this bullshit, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: like a bullshit with the best of people.
Speaker 5: It's like trying to Tom stories. Tom stories, I've got.
Speaker 1: Stories for days, So I'm telling the stories and when
Speaker 1: I was with one tutor as well. The first couple
Speaker 1: of days, the learners had to do a write up
Speaker 1: on what they've done, and he said to him, the
Speaker 1: best way to do this write up is right the
Speaker 1: job as a story.
Speaker 5: And none of them knew what he was on about,
Speaker 5: and down going on.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give this a try real quick, you said,
Speaker 3: accident repair. So like, what do you mean by the
Speaker 3: bodywork for automotives.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm always bodywork siting.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so you're you have to I'm with you
Speaker 3: on this because I used to work in industry and
Speaker 3: I was a instrument tech slash electrician. Now I would
Speaker 3: have to give a report of what I did to
Speaker 3: fix this thing on my app basically at the end
Speaker 3: of shift report, and I would write it as a
Speaker 3: story more or less of like I came and solved this,
Speaker 3: I did this first, and trouble shot in this way,
Speaker 3: and I did this first and whatever the case, and
Speaker 3: then found that that didn't work, so I did this.
Speaker 3: So you pretty much have to lay out the step
Speaker 3: by step of what you did so that if something
Speaker 3: goes wrong with it on the next shift, they know
Speaker 3: what all you tried. So that they don't waste time
Speaker 3: trying that same thing. So as far as bodywork is concerned, yeah,
Speaker 3: you write it like a story. I first did this.
Speaker 2: I use this tool whatever the case is, yes, and.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of its repetition as well, so
Speaker 1: that when you do start writing it, you realize, I
Speaker 1: said to Alan, you won't realize that you're going to
Speaker 1: be writing a lot of the same stuff, but that's
Speaker 1: the idea. You're writing it, so it gets in your head,
Speaker 1: so you never have to write again because you don't
Speaker 1: michally know what you're supposed to do. You're writing down
Speaker 1: tool names so you know what tools you've used, and
Speaker 1: you know why you use this tool and why you
Speaker 1: use that tool, and ship like that. And none of
Speaker 1: them had any idea what he did, I mean, how
Speaker 1: to do it? So I written mind and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to try something here. So I two sentences.
Speaker 1: He was about a guy going into a shop and
Speaker 1: shooting someone. That was like the two sentences, and then
Speaker 1: underneath it I written like name of a fucking page,
Speaker 1: which is the two sentences, but explain more in detail
Speaker 1: the look on the guy's face. The carrier drove off
Speaker 1: in how he shot him, you know, a lot more detail,
Speaker 1: and I showed him the tutor that was helping at
Speaker 1: the time. I was like, I've done this, what do
Speaker 1: you think of this? And you went, yeah, go and
Speaker 1: show me. They might understand that a little bit more.
Speaker 1: They have a lot of the confumes like, oh, why
Speaker 1: are you giving us this? I was like, it's to
Speaker 1: show you how writing two sentences looks. Ship. I'm writing
Speaker 1: a full fucking page of the two sentences where you're
Speaker 1: explaining things.
Speaker 5: Looks a little bit better. They got it a little bit,
Speaker 5: but I mean that they're fucking lazy. So you know
Speaker 5: you didn't want to go into that much detail.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yeah, every job doesn't require two plage explanation.
Speaker 3: But you're showing that at least somewhere between these.
Speaker 2: Two is what you need to be writing. Yeah, yeah, I've.
Speaker 5: Got enough more. If you're writing what I'm writing, you're
Speaker 5: writing at the distinction level. You know exactly everything.
Speaker 1: Why are you doing this, why you just still, why
Speaker 1: you don't use that tool, what you've got to do,
Speaker 1: the whole health and safety around it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: From there, obviously helping the learners do their work, improve
Speaker 1: my reading and writing, and it got to.
Speaker 5: I'm going to suck up saying this. Now you can
Speaker 5: stick with me.
Speaker 1: So I off academic years now, not actual years. So
Speaker 1: the last academic this is all the end of the
Speaker 1: last academic year. I sat down and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to try and write this book. I can't
Speaker 1: do the going to know, no one's ever gonna.
Speaker 2: Know how that.
Speaker 3: You know, the last academic year you started this, Yes,
Speaker 3: and you've written five books in that time. We're talking
Speaker 3: about six months right now. Yeah, holy shit, dude, you're
Speaker 3: fucking going off right now.
Speaker 5: I don't know how the fuck I'm doing. I really don't.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't waste a minute as well, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I try not waste a minute of
Speaker 1: my day. So I say, last academic year is more
Speaker 1: end of April, okay, you know, so obviously start sewing down.
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, I'm writing things down, getting ideas.
Speaker 5: My first one.
Speaker 1: The first one is good, but I know it's not
Speaker 1: as good as what I am now because now I
Speaker 1: know fully out of structure one and stuff. So I
Speaker 1: started writing it at the beginning.
Speaker 5: At the end, I just needed to work out the middle.
Speaker 1: I remember, I completed it and I got to thirty
Speaker 1: thousand words, and I sat back there fucking buzzing on myself.
Speaker 1: I fucking don't I've done it. Let me just go
Speaker 1: on mind and check out how long a books. Your
Speaker 1: average novels about ninety thousand, and I'm just going.
Speaker 5: Off a fox.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a third of the way through this now,
Speaker 1: so I'm them trying to think of extra things. And
Speaker 1: this is why the first one is not that great
Speaker 1: to me now, because I know where I've added the
Speaker 1: extra bits in.
Speaker 2: I mean, you could we can release there's a was
Speaker 2: it called a novelette, you know.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to get the full novel I got.
Speaker 1: I got to I think about to sixty one thousand,
Speaker 1: so it's a decent sized book. It's it's about three
Speaker 1: hundred pages. I know where I've added the bits in,
Speaker 1: So to meet doesn't to me. To Meet doesn't to
Speaker 1: everybody else. Nobody knows, so it does to them. But
Speaker 1: I know that this bit was added in weeks later
Speaker 1: I read it as like I hadn't. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: a lot better now because now and now to fully
Speaker 1: structure one.
Speaker 5: So I did it, and I love youly.
Speaker 1: I was fucking happy on myself and the center off.
Speaker 1: And you know, the first one did get published by
Speaker 1: extremely small publisher, which I did get fucked over a
Speaker 1: little bit on it, but I'm not that mithered about that.
Speaker 1: Now I've got all the work, I've got all the copyright,
Speaker 1: so I've published it myself.
Speaker 3: Now, explain what you mean by you got fucked over
Speaker 3: by this publisher as somebody who's completely ignorant to the
Speaker 3: publishing game. How how do you mean like they charged
Speaker 3: you too much for the publishing fee, or they charge
Speaker 3: you too much to put it into actual prints?
Speaker 2: Like what do you mean?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: They did?
Speaker 5: They did it all far me And then it was
Speaker 5: what was it do?
Speaker 1: You were?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, so can I get some copies
Speaker 1: of my book? And it's like, yeah, it's going to
Speaker 1: cost you twenty pound the book. What the fuck is
Speaker 1: it going to cost me twenty pound the book when
Speaker 1: I'm charging them when I'm selling them for thirteen pound
Speaker 1: we would pay seven pounds more for my own book.
Speaker 1: Oh well, you know when we do this and we
Speaker 1: do that, and I'm like, lord, don't like.
Speaker 5: Should I not be? You know?
Speaker 1: That's what I mean? Like fucked over like they actually
Speaker 1: did it for free. And then it was like they
Speaker 1: are partly they were supposed to put it on my Amazon,
Speaker 1: and I remember messing going, it's not on my KDP
Speaker 1: if I know we've put it on ours. I'm like, ah, well,
Speaker 1: I have no idea how I could tell a thousand
Speaker 1: and you could tell me I took ten. I don't
Speaker 1: fucking know.
Speaker 5: I worked out very quickly.
Speaker 1: I just ended up putting on publishing it that because
Speaker 1: I had all the work obviously they sent on the back.
Speaker 5: I just published it myself.
Speaker 1: And I think they actually took it off their own
Speaker 1: now because he probably worked out very quickly, like he's
Speaker 1: probably counting done to what we would try.
Speaker 5: That's what I mean by fucked over. That was a
Speaker 5: learning curve. Totally fine. He actually the thing I was
Speaker 5: more I was more bothered about is like I think
Speaker 5: they probably they matter the ball, but.
Speaker 1: A bit of smoke obviously, but they actually told me
Speaker 1: it's really good and there's nothing like it, and when
Speaker 1: I was checking, but excuse me, there was nothing. There
Speaker 1: is nothing like it as far as I've not been
Speaker 1: able to find anything that comes close to it.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: So they were saying it was new and they were.
Speaker 1: Trying to get me to pay six grand to market
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I'm like, I've got fucking six grand.
Speaker 1: I didn't write this book too. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say make money off, because obviously we might make a
Speaker 1: bit of money from it, you know. I was like,
Speaker 1: I wrote this one for me and one for my daughters.
Speaker 1: Can always turn around and go, my dad written a book. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was all I asked about, you know, and give
Speaker 1: a copy to my mum.
Speaker 2: It was for the perssion of it, yeah, it was
Speaker 2: just it was more just.
Speaker 5: To see if I could do it.
Speaker 1: So, like I said, when I applied for the job
Speaker 1: at the college, the amount of people that turn around
Speaker 1: to me, I was like, oh, you won't be able
Speaker 1: to teach, And I have this finger of like when
Speaker 1: I do. You know, when things like that get said
Speaker 1: to people, they tend to shell up and go, maybe
Speaker 1: you're right, maybe I can't.
Speaker 5: I'm are the case of fucking watch me then, you know.
Speaker 7: And the same way yeah I got, I got I
Speaker 7: would never be able to be make it in the
Speaker 7: Marine Corps. And I was like I signed up the
Speaker 7: next day and I left two days later, And people
Speaker 7: were like there's no way. They placed my own best
Speaker 7: friends placed bets against me of like how long I
Speaker 7: would last, And when I came back, everyone was like
Speaker 7: shocked that I actually did that and I actually made
Speaker 7: it through, and there was like there's just no way
Speaker 7: she's going to be able to do it. But to
Speaker 7: your point about being dyslexic, so dyslexia runs in families.
Speaker 7: It's a hereditary trait that gets passed down. My father
Speaker 7: was extremely dyslexic. I mean like they thought he was.
Speaker 7: They told him that he was mentally retarded and that
Speaker 7: like he would never be able to graduate or anything
Speaker 7: like that. My one of my children actually goes to
Speaker 7: a specialized dyslexia school here and they actually have.
Speaker 6: New methods of teaching. I'm also dyslexic, and.
Speaker 7: Like when we were I'm the same age as you,
Speaker 7: and so when we were younger, they didn't really know.
Speaker 6: They knew that like I needed orally, I can like
Speaker 6: tell you exactly what I've learned.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, but when you but when you ask me
Speaker 7: to fill in those little stupid bubbles about what we're learning, one,
Speaker 7: I always get a mixed up and then I have
Speaker 7: to go back through and redo it again, and then
Speaker 7: two half the time I skip. I don't know if
Speaker 7: that's what you do, but you read like half sentences
Speaker 7: or you like pop around, yeah two words and you
Speaker 7: kind of don't fully read it. So being on the
Speaker 7: podcast and like reading out loud, I have to try
Speaker 7: to slow myself down and you'll see me skip words
Speaker 7: and I have to like go back and reread it
Speaker 7: because I just naturally skip down the page.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you do that, but oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I said, when I'm teaching and I've written my
Speaker 1: own things on the board and I'm obviously saying it
Speaker 1: back to the learners, I've just missed that one. One
Speaker 1: thing that I do find has helped me a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do wear glasses now. The glasses have
Speaker 1: helped because obviously, I mean I've got folk more and mumble.
Speaker 1: I don't need them all the time.
Speaker 5: But like I said, when I've written things on the board,
Speaker 5: I'll be going right without.
Speaker 1: We did this this, and I'll i say, completely missed
Speaker 1: like three or four words because I've already read past
Speaker 1: them in my mind.
Speaker 3: And see that's the add man. I'm the same way,
Speaker 3: like I I'm not bad at reading well it depends.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure there's people that listen to this show
Speaker 3: that think that I am atrocious at reading. That's fine,
Speaker 3: but especially if I'm trying to write something down, my
Speaker 3: brain is going way faster than my hand can write,
Speaker 3: and so if I end up sucking myself, I'll get
Speaker 3: into that sentence and I'm in my brain, I'm already
Speaker 3: two sentences away from then I'm like, shit, what was
Speaker 3: that middle part? I forgot where I was going, and
Speaker 3: now I'm completely lost, And now everybody's looking and it's like, well, HI, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I get that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 1: I kind of get mumbled up a little bit when
Speaker 1: I am reading as well, like I say to learn.
Speaker 1: They don't find it funny in a mean way, but
Speaker 1: you know the little I always apologizal shit, sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: Like the brain's moving so quick before my mouth can
Speaker 1: actually say what's supposed to come out.
Speaker 5: I say.
Speaker 1: If I'm writing, I say, I might write something totally
Speaker 1: miss a couple of words because I'm alrea at the
Speaker 1: end of.
Speaker 5: The sentence before I'm halfway from it and I'm starting
Speaker 5: the next one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot more understood these days than when it
Speaker 1: was when I was young, and like I said, when
Speaker 1: when I was in school, just copy off the board.
Speaker 1: You've missed this out or you've don't know. And you know,
Speaker 1: I have certain little things as well, like words getting
Speaker 1: mixed up like this. This one I always joke with
Speaker 1: and we've got to learn the name work. She's actually
Speaker 1: called this And I did a favor for the other week.
Speaker 1: And for me, I don't know if it's Lauren or
Speaker 1: it's Laura. I didn't know what.
Speaker 5: I really can't.
Speaker 1: There was a girl that was seen years ago as well,
Speaker 1: and yeah, she was called one of them. I used
Speaker 1: to have to look at my phone to remember what
Speaker 1: if it was Laura or it was Laura. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know that is I think it's because it's
Speaker 1: so very similar. The sounds all the same.
Speaker 5: I just I just I just totally get confused.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, yeah, it's not a dyslexia. Is interesting.
Speaker 7: I've learned so much because of her being in the
Speaker 7: school and the different levels of it and the different
Speaker 7: types of dyslexia, because not it's not a one size fit.
Speaker 6: It's all no, no, no. And like so my dad
Speaker 6: was super severe. He was the traditional time where he
Speaker 6: would write letters backwards and like you know what people
Speaker 6: think when they think of somebody with dyslexia.
Speaker 7: He was definitely couldn't spell at all, struggled with reading
Speaker 7: anything like that was it was a lot of things.
Speaker 7: But he actually went back to school when he was
Speaker 7: in his fifties and like that was a huge thing.
Speaker 7: He actually passed the classes on his own and took
Speaker 7: a lot of time and took time to do it.
Speaker 7: And so with my middle child struggling like she struggles
Speaker 7: a lot with, she phonetically was taught, and so when
Speaker 7: she writes things she misses, she writes it with how
Speaker 7: you would sound it out instead of how you spell it.
Speaker 7: When you messaged us, I actually read your message the
Speaker 7: first time and I went hmm. And so then I
Speaker 7: read it again like how i'd read her stuff, and
Speaker 7: I was like, okay, I'm not. I just can recognize
Speaker 7: it because my own dad did it and she does it,
Speaker 7: and so I can recognize it. And me that the
Speaker 7: problem with me is if I've never heard somebody say
Speaker 7: the word out loud to me, I've never.
Speaker 6: Heard it, I will not be able to sound the
Speaker 6: word out.
Speaker 7: And if you listen if you listen to us on
Speaker 7: the thing, you'll see me have to pause and ask
Speaker 7: him what the words are. And so I get really
Speaker 7: embarrassed because I'm like, I'm promised I can actually read.
Speaker 6: It's just that I can't. Some of the words I've
Speaker 6: never heard out loud. So I don't tell you what
Speaker 6: it is.
Speaker 2: I'm like, but let's be honest. The English language is
Speaker 2: not kind as far as that concerned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, You've got they're there and there,
Speaker 1: and I have no fucking idea which one I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to use.
Speaker 3: Tough go through and though are somehow all spelled basically
Speaker 3: the same. And it's like, when the fuck did g
Speaker 3: H become the f noise? Who made that rule?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: The English language is not kind of people who are
Speaker 3: trying to like sound things out. Let's be very clear here.
Speaker 5: I mean, I've written something on the board the other day.
Speaker 1: Actually I didn't write tough, and I wrote.
Speaker 2: It as a.
Speaker 1: T U F F like tough no no the other
Speaker 1: one t h O U g H or whatever the
Speaker 1: fuck is wrong tough there my funk off.
Speaker 5: Tough is tough.
Speaker 1: I like to Obviously, we we do have to when
Speaker 1: we are teaching, even on teaching accident repair.
Speaker 2: We do have to do.
Speaker 5: We have to be in corporate fucking English and maths,
Speaker 5: and I always go right.
Speaker 1: Ever ever fucked up spell, it's not on purpose. See
Speaker 1: if you can catch it there, make them work for it.
Speaker 5: Obviously, I'm very open and let them know that. You know,
Speaker 5: I do struggle more for that.
Speaker 1: If one of them struggles, I don't want them to think,
Speaker 1: you know, you know this guy is really smart and
Speaker 1: he's gonna think I'm fucking stupid.
Speaker 5: It's like I've struggled with it. You know who doesn't.
Speaker 1: But the like you're saying there about the levels, I
Speaker 1: know mine's technically not that I'm not. I'm dislike it,
Speaker 1: but I know it's not that bad. But I also
Speaker 1: like to think it's I equate to a muscle. I
Speaker 1: think you have to train it as well before you
Speaker 1: do it, the better you get. So if you are it,
Speaker 1: I think you just got to train that a little
Speaker 1: bit harder and you just start picking things up. And
Speaker 1: like so at the beginning of last academic year that
Speaker 1: was my first full year on my own, we have
Speaker 1: to make down like an attendant if their attendance is
Speaker 1: ship and I remember speaking to one in English teachers.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sick of writing attendance because I
Speaker 1: out fucking spell it. Well I can, I can't, you know,
Speaker 1: And then she just went to me A ten that dances.
Speaker 6: Guys, So that's what I'm Have you ever done the well?
Speaker 7: So my daughter learns sounds so like, but like hand movements,
Speaker 7: sounds and like.
Speaker 6: But it's wild to see what.
Speaker 7: Things work for each people, because like certain things I
Speaker 7: have to break up too, Like I can't spell Wednesday.
Speaker 7: To save my life, I will nope, February can't spell it.
Speaker 7: I don't know, don't ask why those two things, but
Speaker 7: like it's crazy how that works. But you writing a
Speaker 7: book is is awesome, honestly. And I actually started reading
Speaker 7: when I was twenty one too. I couldn't I didn't
Speaker 7: want to read because I couldn't read out loud and
Speaker 7: I couldn't really read that fast and I couldn't read
Speaker 7: that good. And I actually started reading because my friends,
Speaker 7: while I was in the Marine Corps, we decided to
Speaker 7: start reading out loud to try to get used to it,
Speaker 7: and so I would read.
Speaker 6: I got handed a romance novel. I'm a big romance
Speaker 6: novel person.
Speaker 7: But I started reading out loud to everybody, and I
Speaker 7: will say everybody was really patient with me. I would
Speaker 7: just mumble, I would stumble. I would like, I get
Speaker 7: too far ahead, unfortunately, and then I have to come back.
Speaker 6: And so I have I learned. But you were being
Speaker 6: able to write, and you know, you being.
Speaker 7: Able to struggle and then write novels not only one,
Speaker 7: but five and such a short amount of time.
Speaker 6: That's that's incredible.
Speaker 1: One of the things about the dyslepty This is why
Speaker 1: I like to say like the super perlific, because I
Speaker 1: struggled when I was younger, but I learned to be
Speaker 1: like I'm reading and writing is not that good. So
Speaker 1: it forced me to be super creative. Like if I
Speaker 1: ever couldn't spell a word, write a totally different fucking sentence.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't look this word up in a
Speaker 1: fucking dictionary. Yeahs, ask someone that's that's being a pain.
Speaker 1: I'll I'll just rewrite everything.
Speaker 2: So there's more the one way that's goinn a cat.
Speaker 2: There's more than one way to get a message across. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: So I've.
Speaker 1: Always been super creative. And like when I was younger,
Speaker 1: I loved dark, so I was always good at drawing.
Speaker 1: I was like, it's always at coming up with certain
Speaker 1: things in my head because I can't articulate it on paper.
Speaker 1: So the actual the books have not been that. The
Speaker 1: hardest thing that I think most people think of when
Speaker 1: it comes to a book is the idea. Once you've
Speaker 1: got the idea, I think everything kind of flows. Like
Speaker 1: when I said, I don't know how I'm doing it
Speaker 1: as such, it's like what I kind of do. I've
Speaker 1: got the idea, I get the middle, I get the start, middle,
Speaker 1: and the end. The words just tend to come as
Speaker 1: they come once I've got the idea, and like say,
Speaker 1: it's super creative. And if you look at like I said,
Speaker 1: this first story, I've been working on my head for
Speaker 1: fifteen years. That was the hardest one. More to see
Speaker 1: if I can do do it. Then as soon as
Speaker 1: I started doing it was like, oh than a minute,
Speaker 1: I've got to explain this bit now. Then I've got
Speaker 1: to explain this bit. Well, I'm explaining this bit may book.
Speaker 1: I could go aweare, well, I'm gonna go ahere. Maybe
Speaker 1: I have to do this. So I say the first book,
Speaker 1: it starts off with my dad's birthday, and my idea
Speaker 1: was to end the book of like obviously the characters
Speaker 1: reborn and it's my dad's birthday again. And I was like,
Speaker 1: well I'm going to do that. I can't do it
Speaker 1: in one book. I'm gonna have to do it in
Speaker 1: three books. So I started like, it's not gonna be
Speaker 1: one book now, it's going to be free. And then
Speaker 1: it was like, well, I've got to explain how he got,
Speaker 1: how he sold was sold, So like I've got to
Speaker 1: write a chapter about his dad, you know, his dad.
Speaker 5: He goes to kill his dad that originally sold me sold,
Speaker 5: and I was like.
Speaker 1: That's kind of fucking stupid because people are going, I know,
Speaker 1: well why did his dad sell his soul?
Speaker 5: So it's like, well, there's a book, Well just explain
Speaker 5: that one boy. That's going to have to be free
Speaker 5: fucking books.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I've written this other character
Speaker 1: as well that's in this buck and is going to
Speaker 1: have his granddaddy in that book, So this one needs
Speaker 1: to character. And then like I say, I'd written my
Speaker 1: first daughter into the first book as like a small partner, Like, well,
Speaker 1: I can't leave the other one out, So she's going
Speaker 1: to need to come in somewhere, so that yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just it's gone from like I said, well, it was
Speaker 1: supposibly one small idea that's just expanded into a.
Speaker 2: World of others, into its own viv verse exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then I was like I ended up with
Speaker 1: I ended up with obviously old Bassis Jamaican, Drederick's Jamaican.
Speaker 1: My two daughters, Rhythm and Rayo. My youngest is if
Speaker 1: you look at the book cover that she's actually got,
Speaker 1: she actually it's virtually the same image. She's very pale
Speaker 1: and got very wiry red hair. I think that's where,
Speaker 1: like they said, the Irish thing comes from. Then I
Speaker 1: had a McIntyre as well. He was Scottish, and I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I can't help it and read the
Speaker 1: Irish out, So obviously I've made the Irish character as well,
Speaker 1: which would be killing when he eventually comes out.
Speaker 5: And end up with these.
Speaker 1: Six And then I was like, well, they've all got
Speaker 1: three books each, and then you're then have to have like,
Speaker 1: you know, the endgame book. And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: the main villain. I kind of want to explain the
Speaker 1: main villain in a way that's never been done, that
Speaker 1: needs a fucking book. Yeah, and I sat there, I
Speaker 1: was like, I've got twenty one books here, and this
Speaker 1: is suppossible for my dad once he's fucking mentioned. So
Speaker 1: it's like, well, they need a full origin story. So
Speaker 1: that's that's where I got the twenty two from. And
Speaker 1: then I can say the idea of the creative thing
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, what a book on this? And I
Speaker 1: want to do one and that, and ideas are just
Speaker 1: going fucking here, there and everywhere. It's like us with
Speaker 1: your shows, you know what I mean. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you get through that many, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: you just look at one little thing and probably got
Speaker 1: make a free I'll show out of this, you know.
Speaker 1: Basically I started, Yeah, I started going with ideas and stuff.
Speaker 1: And again, like I said, I have this finger as well.
Speaker 1: Like normally I say I'm going to do something, probably
Speaker 1: it's already done before I before I say I'm going
Speaker 1: to do it. So when I mentioned about the bulk idea,
Speaker 1: even though I're technically not written it, they were already
Speaker 1: written in my head. It was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: let me get on fucking well, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say paper, let me get it on the laptop.
Speaker 5: The spelling and stuff. I know you're not a fan
Speaker 5: of AI. It has helped a lot with the spelling.
Speaker 3: AI can be a very useful tool. I have no
Speaker 3: issue with people using especially for like this or something
Speaker 3: along these lines. People using it as a source of
Speaker 3: information that like a real good source of it.
Speaker 2: I have an issue that.
Speaker 5: I explained to my learners, like because I mean, yeah,
Speaker 5: I think it's coming in.
Speaker 1: I always say too, because they'll do the work and
Speaker 1: they'll send me a I work and I can read
Speaker 1: the first fucking sentence and no, it's not them.
Speaker 5: Because one, it's just fucking wrong.
Speaker 1: Because I was going to if you're gonna use it,
Speaker 1: I make sure you read it. And I would say,
Speaker 1: if you use AI as a tool, can't fault you
Speaker 1: on that because I use it as a tool.
Speaker 5: I use it to mark my work as a tool,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's the same as using YouTube.
Speaker 3: Like if you're using YouTube as a tool, then fine,
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of false things on YouTube and
Speaker 3: a lot of truth things on YouTube.
Speaker 2: You can't use that as like your true citation, Like
Speaker 2: that's that's not how this goes well.
Speaker 1: Obviously in the job, IMI and I use it as
Speaker 1: a You wouldn't believe I'm many different kind of hammers.
Speaker 1: There are.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I.
Speaker 1: Open up the dr I'll pull out fucking six different
Speaker 1: hammers and I'll go, what are all these hammers?
Speaker 5: Will go, yeah, but what are they?
Speaker 1: And they look at me like there's a tool in
Speaker 1: that when right now that's there on the table is nothing.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely you know what I mean, it's just it's
Speaker 1: a paper weight. Well, but I pick it up, it
Speaker 1: becomes a tool. I can use it for a lot
Speaker 1: of things. I can use it to tap out this.
Speaker 1: Then I can use it to tapping a fuck nail.
Speaker 1: I could use it to hurt someone. I go, But
Speaker 1: then if I pick up this tool, this hammer here,
Speaker 1: But you know, I got small fucking rubber hammer, and
Speaker 1: that's not really going to do that much. It's not
Speaker 1: good for knocking in the nail, but it's good for
Speaker 1: tapping down a tiny hair, little high spot. Like You've
Speaker 1: got to use the correct tool for the correct job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you can't look at a dent and go
Speaker 1: and get a fucking sledge jammer unless it requires a
Speaker 1: sledge jammer, which you know what I mean. If you've
Speaker 1: got a very very tiny high spot. You don't go
Speaker 1: and get a sledg jammer fixed something that you want
Speaker 1: a little panel hammer for. You know, AI is a
Speaker 1: tool and it is fantastic if you use it as
Speaker 1: a tool. I don't you mean now, like I say,
Speaker 1: a lot of my learners use it as I can
Speaker 1: just type in AI and fucking get my work from there.
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't work like that, you know, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's abusing. That that's abusing. I'd say, yeah, I use
Speaker 1: it basically just first spelling and grammar check.
Speaker 3: No problems here with that. That's that's excellent in my opinion.
Speaker 3: That is what a large language model should be used for.
Speaker 2: So that's good.
Speaker 1: Things Like you said, so, I've asked a I had
Speaker 1: the questions, and I've been like, so I'm using this
Speaker 1: for spelling and grammar check? Is it cheating? And AI
Speaker 1: has just come back to me it's no different than editors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fine editors, you know. Yeah, I'm not paying five editors,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm saving a lot of money,
Speaker 1: you know, by doing it myself, right.
Speaker 9: And I said to me like maybe you know, I'm like, well,
Speaker 9: am I a bit ahead of the curve here because
Speaker 9: I imagine when an editor is going to start using
Speaker 9: AI to edit fuck it, Well, why would he pay
Speaker 9: four other editors when he can just edit himself, you know.
Speaker 5: And I have to say again it helps with the work.
Speaker 1: I have this program called pro Writing Aid which brings
Speaker 1: up all the spelling and it gives me different phrases
Speaker 1: that could work a little bit better, and it gives
Speaker 1: me a score. And like a sentence is too longer,
Speaker 1: I'm using the wrong ad verbal or stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Well, so, all right, So as far as the storyline
Speaker 3: of your books, your your father is the inspiration for them.
Speaker 2: But where are you getting your information as far as.
Speaker 3: The voodoo specifically Haitian voodoo background, their their rituals, their sacrifices,
Speaker 3: the ins and outs of it. Where are you sourcing
Speaker 3: your information for the Celtic law as well?
Speaker 1: So I get a lot of that from a line.
Speaker 1: Like I said, it is fiction, so it is slightly wrong,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of protected by that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting it from line YouTube.
Speaker 5: It's not what I've learned to go with the the
Speaker 5: more well known ones. There's a little bit more information.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into some like I'll lower
Speaker 1: it out anything now because I could be totally wrong.
Speaker 1: So I've mainly stuck to certain ones and they do
Speaker 1: certain specific things in the books, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: They're all they all have their own roles, so I'm
Speaker 1: trying to keep it very correct.
Speaker 2: Okay, So yeah, I do use online.
Speaker 1: Quite a lot. Obviously, when I've got the stuff fromline,
Speaker 1: I've obviously saved it, so I'd have to keep going
Speaker 1: researching it.
Speaker 5: So it's just a little bit easier now to do that.
Speaker 1: Well, I've stuck with Papa Luck, Barb Baron Sammad, a
Speaker 1: bit of dam Bala as leid Dan Saw and a goon.
Speaker 3: And then as far as the Celtic, where are you
Speaker 3: getting that from? Because I mean, like not a lot
Speaker 3: is known as far as the Celtic lore goes. There's
Speaker 3: a few stories, right, like we talked about, like the
Speaker 3: Morgan is well known to watch our Day and Noon,
Speaker 3: if I'm pronouncing that right, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know some of these.
Speaker 3: Some of these stories are more well known in the
Speaker 3: academic circles, and there's tons of online lore about these things,
Speaker 3: but a lot of it is very unknown, like for instance,
Speaker 3: Old Boy, I forget the guy's name.
Speaker 2: He's like the main character.
Speaker 3: He's on a boat with like forty women and they
Speaker 3: annoy him so bad that he jumps in the river,
Speaker 3: turns into a salmon, and he just like swims around
Speaker 3: for years to stay away from these women. There's no
Speaker 3: like understanding as to why that type of fish was chosen,
Speaker 3: Like what's the significance of it?
Speaker 2: Doesn't fucking matter on to the next chapter.
Speaker 3: It's like wait what, But like a lot of that
Speaker 3: was kind of pushed off into the realm of history
Speaker 3: rather than the Catholic monks that were writing the shit down.
Speaker 1: So you know, so the Celtic gods I have kept.
Speaker 1: I've kept the Celtic gods very small. Okay, the Salic
Speaker 1: gods not to come in that much.
Speaker 5: Excuse me because, like I said, there's not that much
Speaker 5: to find.
Speaker 1: What would have gone more with it's the Celtic people
Speaker 1: and how they linked to the Caribbean I thought would
Speaker 1: work so they can still use the voodoo themselves as such.
Speaker 1: So the way I've got it, obviously, I mean, this
Speaker 1: all depends on whether I can get an agent and whatnot.
Speaker 5: I will end up doing it if I can.
Speaker 1: But like the Leon book which is my dad's name,
Speaker 1: which will be of the saga that I've got plan
Speaker 1: will be book twenty two, but technically also a book one.
Speaker 5: It's the alprom America. It's it's going to be in
Speaker 5: a complete circle.
Speaker 1: The way I've got all this some heaw it works
Speaker 1: extremely well. I have read it for a few people
Speaker 1: and they've actually all said it works. I hope it
Speaker 1: fucking does, because there'll be children's, young adults, and then
Speaker 1: adult books. And the way I've got it is like
Speaker 1: if you start with book one of Shadow or dread
Speaker 1: Rick or Rhything or Rail, you can make your way
Speaker 1: around the circle.
Speaker 5: And it's not a linear way of reading it. You
Speaker 5: don't have to read this one like The.
Speaker 1: The Avengers if you didn't watch a certain you know,
Speaker 1: if you didn't watch it in a certain order, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't get the story right right. It's like if you
Speaker 1: start with the children's book and I end up at
Speaker 1: the adult books, that's totally fine. If you just do
Speaker 1: the adult books and miss the children's books, you're not
Speaker 1: really going to miss anything. Might you might want to
Speaker 1: read them, but you know, if you start Leon, which
Speaker 1: is technically book twenty two, it's also a book one.
Speaker 1: So if you start after they're all out, Shadow comes
Speaker 1: after Dreaddrick in the timeline, but it's going to be before.
Speaker 5: Him in the way I'm going to release it. I
Speaker 5: know I'm saying a lot now, but it's not a
Speaker 5: very link.
Speaker 2: It's no, no, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Like, for instance, if you watch like you said in
Speaker 3: the Marvel verse, right, if you were to watch the
Speaker 3: Black Panther specifically everything associated with Black Panther but never
Speaker 3: watched Infanity Wars or in game or whatever, none of
Speaker 3: those take away from the storyline of Black Panther. Right,
Speaker 3: if you were to watch the Spider Man. All Spider
Speaker 3: Man's connected. Some of these are in multiverse status, but
Speaker 3: they all kind of flow into the same pattern, and
Speaker 3: none of that takes away from the Iron Man lore.
Speaker 3: And like, I see what you're saying, but they all
Speaker 3: do connect later on, but it's not like watching one
Speaker 3: versus the other versus the other takes away from any
Speaker 3: of the others.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 1: The way I've done it in the Leon book is
Speaker 1: I've done it as like so the gods will say,
Speaker 1: the gnas, the Romans, the Greek, the Egyptians, they've buand
Speaker 1: together to take over because it bad the ones that
Speaker 1: everybody knows anyway, So they band together to create the Cobalt.
Speaker 5: I mean, you consort him to get rid of the
Speaker 5: other gods.
Speaker 1: They all make their own champions, and Leon is the
Speaker 1: last champions left. The sacrifices himself to make the thirteenth
Speaker 1: blood line, which is the Hidden blood line, which is
Speaker 1: going off the Illuminati thirteen blood lines, you know, the
Speaker 1: hidden one. The Hidden bloodline is technically us.
Speaker 5: You know, we're the ones they fear. And this is
Speaker 5: what I was going back to, like the system thing.
Speaker 1: I think that's why all these things in the system
Speaker 1: are there to divide it because like I said, there's
Speaker 1: a fucking ship bad more of us than them, and
Speaker 1: we all got on with. People might look and go,
Speaker 1: that guy over there is the same as me, and
Speaker 1: maybe he's not a problem, you know. So the Leon
Speaker 1: book is is obviously this the Celtic Gods, the artext
Speaker 1: of Minds, the Native Americans, and you know they're all
Speaker 1: getting wiped out by the Norse, the Greek, the Cobalt basically,
Speaker 1: and the last one standing is the Voodoo Champion. He
Speaker 1: obviously realizes he can't win. He's sacrifices himself that I've got.
Speaker 1: This is where there's's a lot of stuff there. So people,
Speaker 1: the people have heard the eye thing, and they go
Speaker 1: all use fucking AI. This is where they'll go. They'll
Speaker 1: understand why it's not say I can't do the stuff
Speaker 1: that's in the book. So he sacrifices himself and it'll
Speaker 1: be right. So in ten thousand years and one day,
Speaker 1: the bloodline will start again. The reason for that is
Speaker 1: my dad died the twenty fourth.
Speaker 5: Of October two thousand and ten.
Speaker 1: My first daughter was born the twenty fifth of October
Speaker 1: twenty twenty ten years one day. I like it.
Speaker 6: I like it.
Speaker 1: I like the ten thousand years. Yeah, ten thousand years
Speaker 1: one day. He's going to sacrifice himself on the twelfth
Speaker 1: of the twelfth. The bloodline starts the thirteenth of the twelfth. Yeah, thirteenth.
Speaker 1: It's that ten years one, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's the thirteenth blood line come back on the thirteenth.
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of I don't want to give
Speaker 1: too much away, right, yes, yes, you know.
Speaker 6: You have five books already written? Are you already written
Speaker 6: more are you on the sixth book right now?
Speaker 1: So the first one I did, reap what you saw,
Speaker 1: was supposed to be the first one of this saka.
Speaker 1: And then I did the Haitian Revolution, which is a
Speaker 1: play on the Revolution in Hate, which is the historical one. Obviously.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you know about it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know a good bit.
Speaker 3: That was the only successful slaver revolt as far as
Speaker 3: African slaves go.
Speaker 2: And it was brutal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you said that because I mentioned to
Speaker 1: people and I've said I'm going with the it's the
Speaker 1: only modern day I went because I say it's the
Speaker 1: only successful slave revolution.
Speaker 5: Someone's going to turn round and global. Did you know
Speaker 5: in such and such a thing, you know.
Speaker 2: Not ancient Rome. We're not talking Greece or Egypt.
Speaker 3: No, as far as the transatlantic slave trade, the Haitian
Speaker 3: slave Revolution is the only successful slave revolution that actually
Speaker 3: took over the entire country, killed all pretty much all
Speaker 3: of the French. And uh, yeah, that was you know,
Speaker 3: as far as that goes, that is one of the
Speaker 3: bloodiest and one of the most brutal.
Speaker 2: And I'm not like saying that this was wrong of them,
Speaker 2: Like I wasn't there.
Speaker 3: I don't know, the atrocities that were being committed to
Speaker 3: the slave population, Like, yo, that's what was needed, That's
Speaker 3: what was needed. But it was a Yeah, that was
Speaker 3: that was rough even to read about in all historical
Speaker 3: contexts and all trying to keep things into perspective like
Speaker 3: that was that was rough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I did that one next that's a that's
Speaker 1: around a thousand words. It's more they so view Doo
Speaker 1: was a massive part of that as well. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's obviously the view do Warrias and over which is
Speaker 1: shadow he's gone over to.
Speaker 5: Not so much kickstart.
Speaker 1: He starts before you know, obviously the way I've got
Speaker 1: the characters to start revolting, and he's the one that
Speaker 1: just gives him that, you know, a little bit of
Speaker 1: a kick.
Speaker 5: And then once he's done what he needs to do,
Speaker 5: he then leaves. He then leaves. He's on his way
Speaker 5: to Garda now.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, I've written book two, which
Speaker 1: will be through the Fog of Forgotten Souls, which is
Speaker 1: based in London in eighteen eighty eight, which is around
Speaker 1: the Ripper area. Yeah, and then I'm starting there and
Speaker 1: I had it all that and I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: fucking perfect now, And I did check through a way.
Speaker 1: I like, I've ran everything through a where I'm like,
Speaker 1: I've got this now, should have self publish it? And
Speaker 1: AI come back to him is like, it's probably too
Speaker 1: good to be self published. He should try and put
Speaker 1: it to an agent, and I'm like, okay, Dan, like
Speaker 1: this is fucking AI. And I thought, you know what,
Speaker 1: fucking why not. The worst I'm going to get is
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a no. Yeah, you know I
Speaker 1: can wait, you know, I know Harry Potter got rejected.
Speaker 1: Fucking God knows our mates everywhere. Yeah, yeah, what do
Speaker 1: you call it?
Speaker 5: That fucking fifty sheets of gray ship.
Speaker 2: That was trash?
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah to me it was. And also
Speaker 1: some people they liked that got rejected quite a lot.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that get rejected. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: this is so new, so different, there's nothing like it.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get rejected, but someone might actually turn around
Speaker 1: and go I can get on this.
Speaker 5: Before you know, before it becomes anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also had the idea, like I was
Speaker 1: also thinking, well, if I'm thinking this, more than likely
Speaker 1: this some otherfuck around the world that's thinking the same, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they might have something similar.
Speaker 5: Well, I want to get mine out of there fucking first, so.
Speaker 1: I thought I'll start pitching it. So I did book
Speaker 1: three as well. So the first three shadow books are done,
Speaker 1: the first two Dread Group books are done. Start pitching it,
Speaker 1: and I'm sat there like twiddling my phones, going, I've
Speaker 1: got two out, now I'm supposed to do now. I
Speaker 1: don't want to just hang around fucking waiting, and I
Speaker 1: decide there for a boxing book. I love boxing.
Speaker 2: When you say boxing, you do mean these the combat sport.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because we brought it up earlier, I had to know
Speaker 2: what the fuck are talking about here? Hell ya?
Speaker 1: So I love boxing, And like I said, the whole
Speaker 1: thing about the V verse, like the the main villain
Speaker 1: is the cabal, So it's not so much it's not
Speaker 1: tied to a certain person.
Speaker 5: The cabal can be anybody, Yeah, fucking anybody.
Speaker 1: And I had this idea of like, obviously I'm not
Speaker 1: going to expose it, but I want to get this
Speaker 1: message out about the gambling situation that seems to be
Speaker 1: going on at a fucking minute, Like it's fucking massive,
Speaker 1: fucking everywhere. I can't watch a football game these days
Speaker 1: obviously called soccer without fucking twenty fucking gambling adverts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, put this on, put this on that.
Speaker 1: I have this opinion like just trying to take your money.
Speaker 1: This is the system trying to fuck you over.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, absolutely, you know.
Speaker 1: And if it was like I mean, I worked in
Speaker 1: the bookies for a fair few months when I was
Speaker 1: a bit younger, It's like, if it was that easy
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 5: It, bookies don't exist, right, you know. And I said,
Speaker 5: I love boxing.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, what's the easiest way of getting
Speaker 1: around this? And what what's probably one of the absolute
Speaker 1: most corrupt sports that's ever existed and one of the
Speaker 1: easiest to probably fix. So my idea behind that is
Speaker 1: like I've written that this first idea, which is about
Speaker 1: PD PD fighters and they're being used to obviously help
Speaker 1: the gambling and the strand the corrupt promoters obviously also
Speaker 1: get them money and stuff. And I come up with
Speaker 1: this massive idea and I had I put to my
Speaker 1: learners and that's fucking awesome now, And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, but if I'm going to start trying to
Speaker 1: pitch novels, I can't really fucking do it, can I?
Speaker 5: So I was like, again, I was checking with Airlight.
Speaker 1: If I'm pitching novels, what would be the problem of
Speaker 1: if I just did a few self published novelas, And
Speaker 1: I was like, an agent wouldn't mind that because I'm
Speaker 1: not pitching a full book. I'm pitching and I'm just
Speaker 1: writing small ones just to get my voice out there.
Speaker 1: So I was looking, it's more like this was Werner
Speaker 1: inspired this one, because they all said it's a fantastic idea.
Speaker 1: I was like, what I'll do is I'll try and
Speaker 1: condense it down. So I've slightly changed it a little bit.
Speaker 1: I did the first one, which is The Hard Road. Again,
Speaker 1: that's only about thirty thousand words. It is a boxing book,
Speaker 1: but it's not technically it's not a rocky story. You
Speaker 1: know you're not going to read it, and it's it's
Speaker 1: not an underdog story. It literally is a system story.
Speaker 1: So obviously is a boxer. He gets a chance at
Speaker 1: the championship, he wins, but he goes to the judges
Speaker 1: he loses. Yeah, you know, it's kind of free levels
Speaker 1: this book a certain way someone will read it. And
Speaker 1: now just got a boxing store and they probably won't
Speaker 1: like it the first level, which is totally fine. They're
Speaker 1: going to expect to pick it up and read, you know,
Speaker 1: these fights. A boxing fan will read it and go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's lost, because you know, he's not the champion. He's
Speaker 1: not you know, he's not like the gold and buyers
Speaker 1: some ship someone such as us, and the listeners might
Speaker 1: look at it and go, oh no, this is the
Speaker 1: conspiracy side.
Speaker 5: He's not in the club.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the promoters can't make as much money off of
Speaker 3: him as they could on the other guy, or whatever
Speaker 3: the case. There's so many there's so many reasons why
Speaker 3: fights get quote unquote thrown and or winners are selected
Speaker 3: not actually like championed.
Speaker 1: The Yeah did you watch the did Jake Paul and
Speaker 1: Joshua for days? I am?
Speaker 3: Is that the one where he finally got his bell rung? Yes,
Speaker 3: thank you God, I have been so tired. Listen, Okay, listen,
Speaker 3: while we're on the topic here, I'm a tangent it
Speaker 3: for a second. He is a athletic dude, and he's
Speaker 3: not a bad boxer by any means like that.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with this.
Speaker 3: He's not a contender for any actual belt or championship
Speaker 3: and the fact that he's been running his mouth like
Speaker 3: he has been has been insulting. But that was the point,
Speaker 3: because he and his brother have found a way to
Speaker 3: make their money off of being the most hated individuals
Speaker 3: on the internet.
Speaker 2: And that was the whole thing.
Speaker 3: The whole fight with him and Tyson, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And you could see the whole time that he was
Speaker 3: fighting Tyson. Tyson was holding back, even as an old man.
Speaker 3: He's somebody's Paul Paul at this point and he was
Speaker 3: still holding back, which was a part of the contract
Speaker 3: because it was it was about the money and all
Speaker 3: the things. It's yeah, it's the same with the McGregor
Speaker 3: Mayweather fight like that. There's it was the same exact thing.
Speaker 3: There's no way that Floyd Mayweather was actually going to
Speaker 3: be Connor McGregor in a full on boxing bout. But
Speaker 3: it was about the promotion. It was about the build up,
Speaker 3: It was about all the amount of money and publicity
Speaker 3: that was into this, and they self promoted. They didn't
Speaker 3: they didn't have to go through these things because off
Speaker 3: of name recognition alone, this was gonna be one of
Speaker 3: the most watched fighting events in history. It didn't matter
Speaker 3: who actually won, they both walked away multi millionaires for
Speaker 3: one evening's worth of a fight.
Speaker 2: That's that's insanity. But yeah, that's that's the whole premise
Speaker 2: behind it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that that was like, I say, that's my idea. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously this is the conspiracy mind working now
Speaker 1: leading up to the Jake paul A j fight. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm listening to all the boxing pundits and everyone's around
Speaker 1: should go around fair enough. You got a few boxing
Speaker 1: experts are going, well, maybe it might go free, and
Speaker 1: that's a it shouldn't go more than free. I fucking
Speaker 1: stayed up to watch this ship as well, and I
Speaker 1: know you you can't. It's not some Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: to watch it. I had to watch it live. I'm
Speaker 1: sat there watching it and I'm like, right, Netflix are
Speaker 1: paying knees. Obviously it worked out like ninety million dollars each. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's something like one of the the pundits on talkSPORT
Speaker 1: a brilliant businessman.
Speaker 5: He used to own a football club, Crystal Palace.
Speaker 1: He was saying, he broke it down fantastic, very simple
Speaker 1: as well, he went, I'm gonna get numbers slightly wrong
Speaker 1: gear as such how many When the Jake Paul Tyson
Speaker 1: fight happened, he got two million new subscribers to Netflix.
Speaker 1: The average lifetime subscribers spends nine hundred dollars, which worked
Speaker 1: out to be two billion. Yeah, just off that fight.
Speaker 1: That's how much Netflix roughly won makes up paying one
Speaker 1: hundred million out or two billions for off.
Speaker 5: So all right, Darling was the ma oh oh, he's sorright?
Speaker 1: Sor right?
Speaker 5: You want to go and watch the TV. I've got
Speaker 5: a by funny.
Speaker 2: Hey, sweetie, the TV on for so you can tell
Speaker 2: your break brother you're good.
Speaker 5: That'll be a second. Is that one of the inspirations?
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Speaker 5: Oh no, it's totally fine that she's gonna wear She's
Speaker 5: gonna be knocking.
Speaker 2: A fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah so the last time.
Speaker 1: So I'm watching this fight and I'm like, so Netflix
Speaker 1: make their money from content. Now, if AJ goals and
Speaker 1: knocks him out in thirty seconds, everyone that's now subscribed
Speaker 1: is gonna leave.
Speaker 2: Yep, takes it.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure this is one hundred percent true, obviously,
Speaker 1: this just this is my mind working I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: Now it's not half for Netflix to turn around and go, right,
Speaker 1: if you knock him out in the first round, you
Speaker 1: get five million.
Speaker 5: You take him a few rounds, maybe you get ninety million.
Speaker 3: Oh there's some fine print with then the fine print
Speaker 3: on those contracts. I promise you if you go, if
Speaker 3: you go ten rounds, then like, hey, well let's have
Speaker 3: a conversation, like yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, technically, I don't know why where that becomes
Speaker 1: the line of being illegal because he's not he's not
Speaker 1: fixing the fight.
Speaker 5: It's more than you know.
Speaker 3: But is this here's where it's the illegal side. This
Speaker 3: was an exhibition fight. This wasn't for a title, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: No, it was licensed. It was a legit fight.
Speaker 3: But my point is none of these dudes were like
Speaker 3: trying to make their their championship run off of this
Speaker 3: one fight.
Speaker 2: So this would be classified.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's licensed and it was an official fight, but
Speaker 3: it's also within the realm of entertainment.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So for instance, there was a charity boxing event. There's
Speaker 3: this content creator that I love watching. His name as
Speaker 3: Brandon Herrera, aka the AK Guy. Right, he signed up
Speaker 3: to box in this charity event, and there was a
Speaker 3: bunch of other content creators and YouTube people.
Speaker 2: Little did they know it was a licensed belt.
Speaker 3: So he actually has a real professional fight on his
Speaker 3: record right now, he's want to know, I don't know
Speaker 3: if he'll ever actually take another fight again.
Speaker 2: But that's beside the point.
Speaker 3: It was a license fight, but it was still nobody
Speaker 3: was making a championship run off of it. It was
Speaker 3: still classified as entertainment. So if certain things were in
Speaker 3: the fine print, within the fine print, as far as
Speaker 3: he is concerned, who it's not necessarily illegal.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It probably goes down to like bonuses and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, like you know, concern Yeah, I'm sorry about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it probably goes down to a bonus thing. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, we get so many more of viewers
Speaker 1: and just becoming a little bit more money. It becomes
Speaker 1: a bonus incentive, like you're going to get X him
Speaker 1: out regardless of what happens. There is a bonus. Probably
Speaker 1: is a bonus system. There's no way, I mean Eaten
Speaker 1: with one shot, yeah, and he finished it. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: could have done that one shot in ten seconds anyway.
Speaker 1: Olympic gold medal is two time heavyweight champion of the
Speaker 1: world unified as well. He could have took him. I
Speaker 1: have one punch that broke his drawing two places. He
Speaker 1: could have that whenever You're like whenever. Yeah, Now on
Speaker 1: the flip side of that that, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know how true that is. That's just the way my
Speaker 1: brain works. If I was in the same position and
Speaker 1: Joshua and I go, I'm gonna ring with with someone
Speaker 1: that is never gonna work there, And if I've got
Speaker 1: to go six rounds and I get ninety million, I'd
Speaker 1: go six rounds. Oh yeah, you know, any anybody that
Speaker 1: says me one't is he's chatting ship absolutely not only
Speaker 1: that as well. Obviously, I don't know if you know
Speaker 1: he's been in a car crash today is two people
Speaker 1: have died, and you know that's unfortunate.
Speaker 5: I've seen the fucking image.
Speaker 2: No I haven't. I haven't heard about this. Who got around?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and Joshua has been in the car crashing
Speaker 1: in Nigeria today. Oh no.
Speaker 5: Again, Now starts getting my brain working, and yeah, it's sucking.
Speaker 1: It's awful. He is, you know, fucking is blessed. Wow,
Speaker 1: He's had two friends die, which is a massive shame.
Speaker 5: One second.
Speaker 2: So now are you good?
Speaker 1: Man? You're good? The fucking cat's not trying to get
Speaker 1: the ham stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously, Like Raven said earlier, We've had quite a
Speaker 3: few guests here recently that I've had cats that somehow
Speaker 3: just like make their way on to screen.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, all right, cool, that's the thing.
Speaker 5: This particular I love him to bits, but it's an asshole.
Speaker 2: Yeah I care to like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well this one is the one's quite chill.
Speaker 1: Close daughter whne he can't gain but anyway, Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: ninety million for six rounds when you're in there with
Speaker 1: someone that's never gonna hurt your's also become a fucking
Speaker 1: massive media star over there. There was a joke that
Speaker 1: we we were talking about and Talk Sport this week
Speaker 1: where they were saying, used to be only old ladies
Speaker 1: that watch boxing. Now the young ladies have seen actually Joshua,
Speaker 1: they all want to watch it. He's six foot six
Speaker 1: and he's like a fucking brick shits ouse. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: another demographic of you's going to get. This is where
Speaker 1: the money thing comes in and the system thing comes in.
Speaker 1: Like I said, the car crush the day if you
Speaker 1: watch them at the comments, it's like, yeah, Jake Polinz's
Speaker 1: money box, Oh god.
Speaker 3: But I mean even they got to do this with
Speaker 3: boxing because I, for the record, same as you, I
Speaker 3: do enjoy watching the sport, but the sport has taken
Speaker 3: a massive downtick in the last two decades because MMA, UFC,
Speaker 3: K One Pride, all these types of more exciting styles
Speaker 3: of combat sports have taken main stage and they don't
Speaker 3: have as many eyes on them unless again, unless it's
Speaker 3: a big name fight that's taking place. Right Aside from that,
Speaker 3: there's way more people that are willing to pay for
Speaker 3: the pay per view UFC fights than there are to
Speaker 3: pay for the pay per view boxing fights, so they
Speaker 3: are now having to promote it in different ways to
Speaker 3: a broader audience to try to bring in more eyes,
Speaker 3: more attention, more money, more promotions, all of these things.
Speaker 3: But that's also because, like you said, boxing is so
Speaker 3: easily corruptible. It is so easy to throw a fight.
Speaker 3: It's so easy to and there's so many examples of it.
Speaker 3: You can't throw. I'm not saying you can't, it is
Speaker 3: extremely difficult to throw an MMA fight like you could.
Speaker 3: Maybe you could act gassed out and you let them
Speaker 3: get you in a submission or something like fine. Fine,
Speaker 3: But aside from that, like the hard knockouts that do happen,
Speaker 3: the blood, the arm bars that like actually will snap somebody.
Speaker 3: Like you mess around an MMA fight, you might not
Speaker 3: actually walk out of there the same way you walked
Speaker 3: in a boxing match.
Speaker 2: A lot of the times it's for points.
Speaker 3: It's a little tippy tappies just to get the points,
Speaker 3: and I mean all of that can go to judges.
Speaker 3: And then you'll see this person that like he dropped
Speaker 3: one time and he's very well aware, he's cool, he
Speaker 3: could jump back up, but then all of a sudden
Speaker 3: he just oh.
Speaker 2: And he like falls out, like he's done.
Speaker 3: It's boxing has gotten so corrupted by the money that
Speaker 3: it's a lot of the time not even worth watching.
Speaker 1: So I think there's a paper view the other day
Speaker 1: in a way the Japanese fighter and the fight before that.
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to try and pronounce the gay
Speaker 1: Nakatami Nakatara.
Speaker 5: You want him to yeah, they.
Speaker 1: Want they want him to fight in a way next
Speaker 1: year which will be Japanese versus Japanese. Two of the
Speaker 1: biggest Japanese fighters there is that's obviously got a lot
Speaker 1: of money there. The fight before I watched it and
Speaker 1: I had it more as a draw or maybe a
Speaker 1: round the two one way or the other three either fighting.
Speaker 1: There was one judge that scored it eight rounds and
Speaker 1: even the commentary was like, what I.
Speaker 5: Was he watching?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: This was a full on fifty to fifty fight. You
Speaker 5: could watch it.
Speaker 1: I could watch it and you might go, well, I
Speaker 1: think he's won, buy around. I think he want to
Speaker 1: bright around. Raven might go well, I think it's maybe
Speaker 1: a draw. Someone had eight rounds up like it never fucking.
Speaker 2: That I'm wondering was in his pocket the.
Speaker 5: Innu Way fight after.
Speaker 1: Just to be fair to the other guy, Alan Picasso,
Speaker 1: I gave him the last round. Well he's probably a twelve,
Speaker 1: you know, it's probably twelve. Nothing Again, someone gave Alan
Speaker 1: p Castle three rounds. Yeah, fucking did you watch this?
Speaker 1: There's been the Mike Tyson Buster Douglas one. He was
Speaker 1: down for sixteen seconds and he was allowed to get up,
Speaker 1: and you know.
Speaker 8: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: You know that a lot of controversy in the boxing
Speaker 2: world about that fight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it might have been a case of we didn't
Speaker 1: want Buster Douglas to win, but it's like, we can't
Speaker 1: really have him sparking in a couple of again that
Speaker 1: was in Japan's brand new markets.
Speaker 5: It's gotta go a little bit longer than a few rounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But to be honest with you, it's not just
Speaker 3: boxing though, like you said, soccer or what you would
Speaker 3: call football. There's a lot of controversy surrounding these matches
Speaker 3: foot American football.
Speaker 2: They me and Jonathan are showing this a while back.
Speaker 3: It's not listed as athletics, it's it's as entertainment. The
Speaker 3: NFL is listed as an entertainment company, meaning that it
Speaker 3: can be scripted and that the winner can be selected
Speaker 3: behind the scenes somewhere and very very similar to WWE.
Speaker 3: That that's essentially it's and that can go so many
Speaker 3: directions on some as baseball as the same way. I
Speaker 3: mean that umpire calls a ball when it's clearly a strike.
Speaker 3: And there's so many examples of games being thrown by
Speaker 3: somebody at the top because that's where the money's at.
Speaker 1: Well this like say, with with with football, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a football or that I think he got away
Speaker 1: with it. One that plays over there Brazilian. He was
Speaker 1: apparently giving money to family members for something as simple
Speaker 1: as a throwing. How many thrones he would be in
Speaker 1: the game, it's not hot to all the balls you
Speaker 1: off kicks it out of play by accident. Now how
Speaker 1: many corns it would be? Not talking about the actual
Speaker 1: who's winning the game, But like when it comes to
Speaker 1: the back, it's like, you know, over five thrones and
Speaker 1: I can misplace five passes quite easily, right, you know, Well,
Speaker 1: you know there's a little things when when it comes
Speaker 1: to conspiracy, people are they be not many people and
Speaker 1: you could never get away with it. When it does
Speaker 1: come to football, I don't the Italian League a fair
Speaker 1: few years ago. Obviously that was totally fixed out the
Speaker 1: main clobe in it and it got kicks all the
Speaker 1: way down still bomb, yeah, you know, because that was
Speaker 1: obviously all fixed.
Speaker 2: And it happens in American football too.
Speaker 3: Hell, anytime a state has some sort of a natural
Speaker 3: disaster take place, their local NFL team will probably win
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl this year just out of nowhere. Cinderella
Speaker 3: story and that's been on repeat for the past two
Speaker 3: decades because that's what gets the people going. Who doesn't
Speaker 3: love a Cinderella story, right, who doesn't love the underdog?
Speaker 3: That's that's that's the American dream. That's that's also a
Speaker 3: playbook that has been ran quite a few times.
Speaker 5: Well, I have won my own team, Manchester United.
Speaker 1: I mean I've watched some games and it's been given
Speaker 1: is it is a massive fingo but especially supporting. Or
Speaker 1: you've got a penalty and never should have got. It's
Speaker 1: like the given penalties, free kicks for things that probably
Speaker 1: shouldn't be used. To call it Fergie time. They'd always,
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't winning, they'd always get a few
Speaker 1: extra minutes at the end of the game.
Speaker 5: It probably didn't always, but it's.
Speaker 1: A well known thing that there's certain bigger clubs do
Speaker 1: you get the bigger rub there was There's a famous
Speaker 1: one in the Champions League a fair few year ago
Speaker 1: where Chelsea were playing Barcelona and I think it was
Speaker 1: Michael Ballack kicked the ball and it one of the
Speaker 1: barsil and the players out clearly a handball.
Speaker 5: It should have been a peneter that was never given it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's everywhere. Anybody that says it's not obviously doesn't.
Speaker 1: I watched sport these days now for the entertainment value
Speaker 1: more than I watch it for the This is my
Speaker 1: team and I want them.
Speaker 3: To win, absolutely, and there's nothing wrong with that, and
Speaker 3: it as we're talking shit about sports in general, Listen,
Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with that being your way of unwinding
Speaker 3: and enjoying watching the game and even throwing a couple
Speaker 3: of dollars on it because the game is a little
Speaker 3: more exciting a little more interesting when you got a
Speaker 3: hundred bucks riding on and like, okay, fine, I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm not shitting on anybody, but we also do need
Speaker 3: to acknowledge that they are extremely corrupted. Most of the
Speaker 3: referees and umpires and all the things are absolutely bought.
Speaker 2: And paid for by name.
Speaker 3: Your conglomerates could be the mafia, could be the entertainment company,
Speaker 3: whatever the case is. And just there's people that really
Speaker 3: get bent out of shape over there's people that like
Speaker 3: if their team loses, their entire week is fucked.
Speaker 2: And it's like, bro, I needs to be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it needs to be the same life, you know.
Speaker 1: So like they're saying that the hard roll he beats
Speaker 1: the first champion and I have it, where the promoters
Speaker 1: then go, shit's fucking won like, what do we do now?
Speaker 1: They didn't obviously get a new champion that he's named
Speaker 1: after two of my closest friends, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: he's I've made him six.
Speaker 5: ten is obviously a muscle fucking and he's he's got.
Speaker 1: A paddied record and stuff like. That OR bassi fights him,
Speaker 1: again technically beats him at the, end goes to the judges.
Speaker 1: Win so the first, book it ends on it's not
Speaker 1: a some people it's a little bit. Depressing it's not
Speaker 1: it's about the real. World it's about the. System i'm
Speaker 1: hoping people understand the system That i'm going.
Speaker 5: To the second book is going.
Speaker 1: To be Called No, mass Which i'm really proud of that.
Speaker 1: TITLE i think some boxing fans will understand where that's come. From. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Yeah so the second, book he goes back To, Jamaica
Speaker 1: Baron samad isn't it technically isn't, It but he's. Not
Speaker 1: it's more of a state of, mind and he's too.
Speaker 1: Merciful it's not too much, mercy or he doesn't he
Speaker 1: wants to, win but he doesn't want to knock people,
Speaker 1: out if that makes, sense and he's you, know refusal
Speaker 1: comes with, consequences learns that he needs to be a
Speaker 1: little bit more. Ruthless he goes to fight God grave.
Speaker 1: Again you really the way they've written, IT i went
Speaker 1: a few ways for. This it's LIKE i COULD i
Speaker 1: could write it now where he knocks him, out but now, go,
Speaker 1: well if he knocks him, out Then i'm going to
Speaker 1: have to explain, like, oh this is a lucky punch
Speaker 1: or this is that you, know the first fight he
Speaker 1: has with the first. CHAMPION i was going to have
Speaker 1: that end in a in a it's, qualification BUT i
Speaker 1: think that just makes The it shortens the book and
Speaker 1: it makes it quite.
Speaker 2: Ship, yeah he's.
Speaker 1: Got to go to the.
Speaker 5: Judges i've got to expose the system here.
Speaker 1: Fully the so in the second, book when he's fighting
Speaker 1: the champion, again he has chances to knock him. Out
Speaker 1: obviously the champions guessed he could knock him.
Speaker 2: Out he.
Speaker 1: Doesn't it's reading as he's going to go to the,
Speaker 1: judges he's probably going to. Lose, technically he just beats
Speaker 1: him up to the point of he says, no mass.
Speaker 5: If he knocks him. OUT i could have it where
Speaker 5: the promoters, go well it.
Speaker 1: Was a lucky. Punch he was, gassed he. Resists he was,
Speaker 1: like he's, like, no he's got to. Quick he's full
Speaker 1: on gotta.
Speaker 2: Quick, yeah throwing something that you can't you can't argue.
Speaker 1: Against, AGAIN i, thought he can't be the corner to
Speaker 1: throw the, towel and he's got to be the actual fighter,
Speaker 1: himself which is obviously going off the about or the
Speaker 1: Run Sugar Ray leonards second fight where and he just
Speaker 1: stood there and went no more getting beat up that.
Speaker 1: BAD i felt it can't be anyone else barring the.
Speaker 1: Fighter he's got to lose that myth. Himself then the
Speaker 1: third book is going to be a bore about THE
Speaker 1: i Don't i've not fully edited the third book and
Speaker 1: it's now SO i don't want to go too much into.
Speaker 1: It but it's more about. It LIKE i, said the
Speaker 1: whole book is about the actual system of. Boxing it's
Speaker 1: not so much of it's not the boxing, story but
Speaker 1: it's not centered on a rocky theme where it's, like,
Speaker 1: oh this is just brilliant. Underdog he becomes the, champion
Speaker 1: and it's about what all comes with, that the pressure
Speaker 1: of the. Pain you're not our chosen, champions so now
Speaker 1: you're going to get all this ship WHICH i think
Speaker 1: a lot of. Boxes it has happened where people are
Speaker 1: not the chosen champions and they tend not to get.
Speaker 1: Anywhere they don't get the big money, fights they don't
Speaker 1: seem to get, This they don't seem to get, there
Speaker 1: and it's, like you, KNOW i like. It for, Instance Anthony,
Speaker 1: joshua he was he's going to be a star.
Speaker 2: Looking, yeah you, know that guy is.
Speaker 1: Money you, know IF i want to sell, something that's
Speaker 1: a GUY i put, on you, know my poster to
Speaker 1: sell IF i want to sell a, watch and josh
Speaker 1: is wearing a. Watch he's very very well. SPOKEN i
Speaker 1: don't want to say media train because that sounds really,
Speaker 1: bad WHICH.
Speaker 5: I do get why you would do. That you walk
Speaker 5: and have an, advert well, spoken well.
Speaker 1: Presented it comes across really, well really good looking, guy very.
Speaker 1: Athletic he wouldn't want to look like. That who wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to be like? That you, know on the other
Speaker 1: side Of Tyson, fury who doesn't look like, that you,
Speaker 1: know very, different right, Right you, KNOW i say he's
Speaker 1: not a media dial and you can go through the
Speaker 1: WHOLE i mean not even just LIKE i have this
Speaker 1: other one as, Well like so over the Past Jesus christ.
Speaker 5: Almost twenty. Years he's always been who's Better messi Or?
Speaker 1: Ronaldo, yeah, Yeah i'm of the opinion you're watching two
Speaker 1: of the. Greatest there's another player that used to play
Speaker 1: for my team that he's not got the records as,
Speaker 1: them but he did a lot, more which would Be.
Speaker 1: Rune you, know he sacrificed himself a lot For ronaldo to,
Speaker 1: shine for A tees to, shine for A Burbert off to.
Speaker 1: Shine he was just as good as. Them he's never
Speaker 1: ended to the. Conversation but you look At, messer you
Speaker 1: look At, ronaldo they look like. Athletes you look At,
Speaker 1: rune he looks like he's just walked out the Put.
Speaker 2: Yeah because he probably, did let's be. Honest, yeah but, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah you.
Speaker 1: Know it comes a lot more than just you're a great.
Speaker 1: Athlete it's like you've got to have a certain you've
Speaker 1: got to be the full. Package AND i like to
Speaker 1: put this back to like, SAY i grew up as
Speaker 1: a massive wrestling. Fan still kind of. Bam there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of great, wrestlers but they might not have
Speaker 1: that certain, look you know that the body look like
Speaker 1: there was one a fair few years.
Speaker 5: AGO i don't know If raven can remember. This Like
Speaker 5: daniel O'Bryan i, Love.
Speaker 6: YES i Love Dr. Brian, yeah except he was really
Speaker 6: small too though he was like.
Speaker 1: He doesn't look now at the time The tistas, again
Speaker 1: he's six foot.
Speaker 6: Five must you know he looks like a dad, honestly
Speaker 6: like just a local.
Speaker 7: MOJO i mean he was very, small like he was
Speaker 7: very small statue in, general and he just didn't really
Speaker 7: seem like he'd be a really good wrestler, honestly.
Speaker 1: Probably one of the best. Ever, yeah it's all about the.
Speaker 1: Looking and there's a thing now going on the Brown breaker.
Speaker 1: Again he's a he's a son of a legend. Wrestler,
Speaker 1: AGAIN i think he. Was he was a farmer football.
Speaker 1: Playoff he's six foot one or something like that and
Speaker 1: great looking, Guy Buddy, White i'm really saying, this, yah.
Speaker 2: No, NO i see what you're. Saying though he looks the,
Speaker 2: part he can get the crowd behind him for.
Speaker 1: That, YEAH i, Mean i've got a, bit BUT i
Speaker 1: don't look.
Speaker 7: Like, that.
Speaker 2: Right but you're also probably now on. Steroids let's be, honest.
Speaker 5: All, NATURAL i got that quite a lot after learn
Speaker 5: is what for?
Speaker 1: Talking? Ag excuse? Me i'm, like you don't realize in
Speaker 1: five f six and again a bit of MUS i
Speaker 1: do look, massive you, know AND i do say genics as,
Speaker 1: well you know WHAT i. Mean, Yeah well the pushing
Speaker 1: him at the, minute and the crowd are rejecting that
Speaker 1: because they don't want.
Speaker 5: That they want someone.
Speaker 1: Authentic and then in The joshua as good as he's
Speaker 1: not the greatest by, far you, know but he's pushed
Speaker 1: because he is. Money he looks like.
Speaker 6: Money he looks kind of Like Bret wyatt.
Speaker 1: Too, yeah, yeah he wasn't pushed and again a brilliant
Speaker 1: mind in the creative, sense and he went With roman
Speaker 1: reigns because of the way he. Looks certain football.
Speaker 6: They're very good looking man.
Speaker 2: Though but it's not just the way he.
Speaker 3: Looks it's also because of the persona with the whole
Speaker 3: bloodline and all the ship with him. Too there's there's
Speaker 3: been enough time to build a story arc behind.
Speaker 2: Him BUT i WOULD i.
Speaker 7: Would argue That Bray wyatt had had more of a
Speaker 7: following and still has even after his, Passing.
Speaker 1: Like yeah he, does but we have it.
Speaker 5: Now like with, football there's a there's a young football
Speaker 5: that place For.
Speaker 1: Barcelona called The menia man, again fantastic Football i'm not gonna.
Speaker 1: Lie there's some weird stuff around him And messy, LIKE
Speaker 1: i don't know how this had happened that When messi was,
Speaker 1: younger he baffled And Mina mallon is a picture of,
Speaker 1: it and that's something that would be worth, exactly very fucking.
Speaker 1: Strange how he his dad want a. Contest he, baffly
Speaker 1: men your? Man now the men your man is the
Speaker 1: Next messy.
Speaker 5: As good as he.
Speaker 2: Is i've never heard.
Speaker 1: This, oh it's something you'd have to look.
Speaker 2: Into, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: Fantastic. Footballer he's not the only, one but he seems
Speaker 1: to be the one getting pushed at the. Minute yeah,
Speaker 1: again good looking kids from That barcelona, academy which is
Speaker 1: the you, know one of the biggest academies in world,
Speaker 1: football is one of the best.
Speaker 5: Teams is the next global football.
Speaker 2: Star, yeah you.
Speaker 1: Know and And i'm not Saying i'm not saying that
Speaker 1: these people better than. Him there's people just as good
Speaker 1: as him that won't get the push because they don't
Speaker 1: have this. Look they don't have the full. Package they're
Speaker 1: not they're not playing For. Barcelona they didn't get back
Speaker 1: by a message when he was a. Kid they didn't get,
Speaker 1: this they didn't get, that they've.
Speaker 5: Not come through the.
Speaker 2: System they're not in, this they're in the. Club.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah basically that's the whole.
Speaker 3: Thing and so you talk about this in your book
Speaker 3: as far as the boxer is, concerned and this is
Speaker 3: one of the story arcs within the multiverse that you
Speaker 3: have written.
Speaker 5: Down, yeah SO i can say that can be.
Speaker 1: Anybody so in my side that is more The British
Speaker 1: crown the way That i'm going. There BUT i do
Speaker 1: have other books as well where the bowves totally. Different
Speaker 1: is somebody completely, Different it's still it's unknown, face but
Speaker 1: it's it's basically it's the system that's trying to suck everybody.
Speaker 2: Over. Yeah you.
Speaker 1: Know in the rare, book the rare little short book
Speaker 1: That i've done that has nothing to do with the,
Speaker 1: saga there's a blackout In Manchester City center and all
Speaker 1: the grown ups panic because phones don't, work auto making
Speaker 1: those don't. Work a great well one guide it now
Speaker 1: has to get home on the tram because the electronic
Speaker 1: map isn't. Working and it's the kids that can't everybody
Speaker 1: down because they don't know anything about using electronics and.
Speaker 1: Stuff you, know they've memorized the maps and stuff because
Speaker 1: that's all they know when they can't the adults down
Speaker 1: in The rhythm, book which will be the young adult,
Speaker 1: one she goes into a school and it's it's the.
Speaker 1: PHONES i have this massive problem in work with the.
Speaker 1: PHONES i don't know what it is these, days but
Speaker 1: they're out of hand for five minutes and you can
Speaker 1: watch the. Machine it's like a, drug but it is
Speaker 1: a drug. Obviously and she goes and she doesn't get
Speaker 1: rid of the. Phone she doesn't ban. Them she just
Speaker 1: talks to the learner you, know the other, kids and
Speaker 1: reduce his phone. Content you, know basically as you as
Speaker 1: you're reading the, book the kids are, zombies you, know
Speaker 1: which again is the system of like you're locked into your.
Speaker 1: Phone you're now locked into this fake world Of facebook And.
Speaker 1: INSTAGRAM i MEAN i do it. MYSELF i enjoy. Scroll
Speaker 1: like you were saying before about, YouTube does all this
Speaker 1: fake ship put on there and people start living in
Speaker 1: you certain lives and some people do take advantage of.
Speaker 1: It AND i managed to make a living out of,
Speaker 1: it like we were talking about, Before, Jake Paul, Logan,
Speaker 1: paul you, know, again they were head of the.
Speaker 3: Curve they learned very early that, likes hate comments and
Speaker 3: love comments pay the, same and it is a lot
Speaker 3: easier to get people to hate you than it is
Speaker 3: to get them to love. You so they just leaned
Speaker 3: into it and they're with.
Speaker 1: IT i think.
Speaker 5: That, YEAH i think that's the thing with like The
Speaker 5: Andrew tap, Thing.
Speaker 2: Like same, exact same.
Speaker 1: THING i, Mean i'm a fan Of Andrew tate as
Speaker 1: the character BECAUSE i see the Character Andrew, tate to,
Speaker 1: me is just that he's just the wrestling.
Speaker 3: Staff He's i'm not saying that every single thing that
Speaker 3: has come out of his mouth as, trash as far
Speaker 3: as like young men needing to be more assertive and
Speaker 3: reclaim what masculinity.
Speaker 2: Is, OKAY i agree with. That, however a lot of
Speaker 2: the things he.
Speaker 3: Says after that point about what masculinity should look, Like,
Speaker 3: okay now you are perpetuating a very bad image of
Speaker 3: what a man should.
Speaker 2: Be, so, LIKE i agree with your, PREMISE i disagree
Speaker 2: with your.
Speaker 1: Execution, yeah that's WHAT.
Speaker 5: I, mean like a certain part of but that's the character.
Speaker 1: Side. Yeah you, know if he comes out and, says,
Speaker 1: oh you should go to the gym and take care of.
Speaker 1: Yourself the is gonna listen to, that you, know, RIGHT
Speaker 1: i tell my learners, that you, KNOW i don't listen to.
Speaker 1: Me but IF i turn around to him and started, going,
Speaker 1: oh you go to the gym and take care of,
Speaker 1: yourself and you treat him in this, way and you
Speaker 1: start doing, this and you start doing, that you, know
Speaker 1: people did start listening.
Speaker 5: Because that's the things they want to.
Speaker 1: HEAR i enjoyed the character side Of Andrew tato as
Speaker 1: a business, Man like he's, Wrong i'm gonna, say he's. Right,
Speaker 1: well at the same, time he's found the leading and
Speaker 1: he's you, know he's going through it and he's getting
Speaker 1: money for. It. Yeah is his message wrong being a
Speaker 1: being a?
Speaker 5: Cunt yeah it.
Speaker 1: Is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah i'll tell you what when you're sleeping.
Speaker 1: Sleeping on six shots.
Speaker 5: And NOW i don't think it's going back to.
Speaker 2: YOU i, say it's lonely at the. Top BUT i
Speaker 2: like the. View it's, like, yeah well you can enjoy that.
Speaker 5: View.
Speaker 1: Brother, well, like for, instance, right he ain't going to
Speaker 1: give a ship about hitting on. Him he'd like.
Speaker 2: That you, know it boosts the. Algorithm, yeah it drives his.
Speaker 1: Business and LIKE i say that but that's the system
Speaker 1: in play as. Well he's. USED i don't know if
Speaker 1: he knows. This he probably. DOES i think this is
Speaker 1: probably he knows he's being used by the system as
Speaker 1: a certain thing as, well but obviously at the same
Speaker 1: time he's getting what he. Wants Ye Jake paul the
Speaker 1: Logan paul, again the same. THING i, MEAN i don't really.
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't get into.
Speaker 5: THESE i think.
Speaker 1: Creators but there's the ship leads and everyone's trying to
Speaker 1: do it, now you know WHAT i? Mean and There.
Speaker 5: So the WAY i like to put it across is.
Speaker 1: There's no like fixed Happy, actually there's no rocky story in.
Speaker 1: It it's not you, know you will see the burden
Speaker 1: when it comes to the. Saga it's not it's not
Speaker 1: a marble or well you, know they destroyed these cities
Speaker 1: and they all After it's, like, no they do these
Speaker 1: things and these consequences to. EVERYTHING i like to call
Speaker 1: it burden without.
Speaker 5: Applause and WHAT i mean by that is THAT i
Speaker 5: can relate to a certain.
Speaker 1: Character do you ever Watch The Cross oh, yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: well one of my, favorite, yeah the original With, brandon.
Speaker 6: The, Original, yeah, yeah, yeah that.
Speaker 1: Doesn't have a happy.
Speaker 5: Ending if you think about, it he comes back to
Speaker 5: life and he kills the bad. Guys he still.
Speaker 1: Dies that's a burden without. Applause he's done what he
Speaker 1: needsy to, do but he's never looked at. Us. Great
Speaker 1: another one that have is one of my FAVORITE tv,
Speaker 1: shows And i've watched it these five times with The. Sopranos,
Speaker 1: YEAH i love The.
Speaker 6: SOPRANOS i watched every every.
Speaker 1: Season, Yeah i've watched it about five.
Speaker 5: Times to The.
Speaker 1: Sopranos not a good guy, now you, know he's an.
Speaker 5: Asshole he gets the job.
Speaker 2: Done, Yeah and.
Speaker 5: Me, Personally i'm a fan of the.
Speaker 1: ENDING i know people hate, it AND i always go
Speaker 1: with when people talk about, goal you don't realize you're
Speaker 1: talking about twenty years. Later it's done his. Job but
Speaker 1: that's how it's supposed to. End he's not supposed to
Speaker 1: sail off into the. Sunset he's not supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Shut it's supposed to be the idea OF i wonder
Speaker 1: what happened to my? Opinion you, Know that's how my
Speaker 1: books are kind of going to. Go it's not a,
Speaker 1: full unhappy. Ending it's more than you make the end
Speaker 1: of what you need it to. Be No burden without a. Pausies,
Speaker 1: again like we were talking ABOUT, mma there the name
Speaker 1: that always gets brought up in MM a for being
Speaker 1: the pioneering all this shit is highest grace for.
Speaker 2: Sure i've got to.
Speaker 5: A different, way And i'm going to say It's Ken.
Speaker 2: SHAMROCK i think they both did a lot as far
Speaker 2: as the sport is.
Speaker 3: Concerned but when it comes to the Great hoyst did
Speaker 3: it for THE bjj side of, It, yeah and like
Speaker 3: nobody can.
Speaker 1: Get commercial sided and get it fully, out there Is
Speaker 1: shamrock because he went to THE wwe and he made it.
Speaker 1: Mainstream when you talk about the greats are the people
Speaker 1: that pioneered. It his name never gets brought up for some.
Speaker 1: REASON i don't understand.
Speaker 2: It you, know.
Speaker 1: Not the greatest fighter in the, world but he's the
Speaker 1: one now put in the public. View heist was obviously
Speaker 1: the better one and he's the one that you know
Speaker 1: he took it and then drove with. It, yeah he
Speaker 1: Was Ken shamrock that start at.
Speaker 5: The endine as.
Speaker 1: Such, Again burden without. APPLAUSE i don't think he ever
Speaker 1: gets the. Recognition there's another fighter as. Well when it
Speaker 1: comes to this debate of who's the. Greatest who's the
Speaker 1: greatest in my OPINION, Gsp, YES.
Speaker 3: I would put him from my own now Well John, Jones,
Speaker 3: Yeah but for me, personally It's Anderson. Silva, yeah that's you,
Speaker 3: know as far as like my my go to overall
Speaker 3: BEST mma fighter for his weight. CLASS i mean literally
Speaker 3: he was undefeated until his age finally caught up with. Him,
Speaker 3: NO i mean there's not many in the game start
Speaker 3: to finish that can make such a CLAIM. Gsp, Though
Speaker 3: i'm also putting him right up there as far as
Speaker 3: like one of the greatest of all.
Speaker 2: Time.
Speaker 1: Complete, yeah BUT i say that to kids the days
Speaker 1: and they, go, oh, well you know a, thing like
Speaker 1: they don't understand Where i'm coming. From, again when we
Speaker 1: go to the wrestling, side my, favorite and AGAIN i
Speaker 1: will argue a point with anybody in my, opinion Is Kurt.
Speaker 1: Angle m never gets brought.
Speaker 7: Up angle of all people of such an, asshole but
Speaker 7: he was really, good like, overall he was just.
Speaker 1: Perfect there so Legit olympic gold. Medalist when he was
Speaker 1: a baby, face you loved. Him when he was a,
Speaker 1: heel you hated. Him he could make you, laugh, yeah
Speaker 1: he could make you. Cry he could do. Everything his
Speaker 1: story arts were.
Speaker 5: Interesting, yeah he.
Speaker 1: Could he could get in the ring With Raymons, stereo
Speaker 1: who he's classed as five ft. FIVE i think technically
Speaker 1: he's five to two and he'd have a fantastic match with.
Speaker 1: Him yeah you're getting the rung with a big.
Speaker 5: Show he's seven foot, too and he'd have a you
Speaker 5: know WHAT i?
Speaker 1: Mean he could work with make everybody like The Brett
Speaker 1: hart thing wasn't as good as like the character wise as,
Speaker 1: SUCH i heard him without. Applause but when you ask
Speaker 1: about who's the greatest wrestler exhausted was the? Rocket was
Speaker 1: this person like technically with that great at? WRESTLING i Like, Sting,
Speaker 1: Yes sting again is a number one who never gets
Speaker 1: to recognition how he actually.
Speaker 6: WANT i thought he was. AMAZING i loved his entire character.
Speaker 6: ART i thought he was really great at.
Speaker 7: WRESTLING i enjoyed him so, Much but he doesn't really
Speaker 7: get brought up that.
Speaker 3: MUCH i Like Rick flair and be, honest as far
Speaker 3: as The grids of all time, goes like nobody can
Speaker 3: fuck with old, alligators you know What i'm? Saying like
Speaker 3: the man just had such a persona OF i.
Speaker 2: Know i'm bad. ASS i spent more last year on
Speaker 2: spilled liquor than you made in your entire.
Speaker 3: Year it's, like who the fuck's got the balls to
Speaker 3: say such? Nonsense and also come on.
Speaker 6: Now you, know yeah but Again seamus, too Though seamus is.
Speaker 2: Great, yeah but.
Speaker 1: Again Again BUT i, said these these are people, Up
Speaker 1: i've done, law but you never get that's the burden
Speaker 1: Without they're absolutely. Fantastic they're. Amazing that you mentioned before
Speaker 1: About bray, why character, wise creation, wise absolutely top. DRAW
Speaker 1: i go to some of my, Learners well he's the
Speaker 1: bestined why he really isn't that.
Speaker 7: Good but he's really not that good of a wrestler
Speaker 7: if you look at him compared to a lot of
Speaker 7: the other. Wrestlers and and if you have you ever
Speaker 7: watched a part of his original, crew.
Speaker 6: Not, seth but the other Guy i've GOT i.
Speaker 1: Forgot.
Speaker 6: Yeah so he actually is.
Speaker 7: On another network and he's. Insane on that that, network
Speaker 7: they do all sorts of.
Speaker 6: Crazy they took him, back like, yeah they took it back.
Speaker 7: Old, school but they bleed all the time over. There
Speaker 7: but his matches, though he's still a phenomenal. WRESTLER i
Speaker 7: actually watched the live streams of his matches and he
Speaker 7: didn't really get any recognition for how good he.
Speaker 6: Was and it's just it's, like but to.
Speaker 7: Your, point Like seth, is you, know he's one of
Speaker 7: the star children of THE, wwe and it's because of
Speaker 7: the way they look versus some of the other ones
Speaker 7: that aren't as attractive that get kind of weird, storylines
Speaker 7: or really good wrestlers put up against people that aren't
Speaker 7: really that, great but they decide to push. Forward there
Speaker 7: aren't really good ones because of whatever reason storyline, Wise.
Speaker 1: So like going back to the boxing, thing like WHEN
Speaker 1: i always, say like he's the greatest boxer as, well
Speaker 1: like to, people there's only two NAMES i ever seen
Speaker 1: him to come, Up Ali, tyson AND i always go
Speaker 1: what About Joel?
Speaker 2: Lewis PERSONALLY i stay With George, FOREMAN.
Speaker 3: I mean And and it's strictly because of his comeback, Story, like,
Speaker 3: bro who in the hell at that age decides to
Speaker 3: come back and clinch the?
Speaker 2: Title like that's that's.
Speaker 1: Insanity WHAT i mean back is Like Muhammad ali won't
Speaker 1: exist If Joel lewis didn't.
Speaker 5: Exist, first, Sure Joe louis ned and when he's the
Speaker 5: pound for pound king used the pounderful Pund.
Speaker 1: King like to, me there's only one pound for pound,
Speaker 1: king getting that with Sugar Ray, robinson m Get i'll
Speaker 1: let you unless you, know the sport never gets, mentioned
Speaker 1: never gets. Realized he. Was he was obviously back then
Speaker 1: that it was controlled by the, mafia and apparently he
Speaker 1: never played into all the mafia. Things he actually come
Speaker 1: to he was crowned the poundful Pound king because they
Speaker 1: wouldn't ever put a title on him because he wouldn't
Speaker 1: go to the, mafia you, know mafia's.
Speaker 3: Side real, quick are you are you like shuffling papers or.
Speaker 3: SOMETHING i keep hearing this like background.
Speaker 2: Noise on your.
Speaker 1: End oh, sorry, Sorry i'm. Topping, Sorry oh, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: YEAH i dropped my thing THAT i was playing with
Speaker 1: BEFORE i catch.
Speaker 3: You, no but, actually pound for, pound if we're going that,
Speaker 3: ROUTE i Go Rocky. Marciano and not because, granted, granted
Speaker 3: but it wasn't because he was such a talented.
Speaker 2: Fighter he was a downright brawler and he didn't have
Speaker 2: quit in.
Speaker 3: Him and that's something that again there's been a lot
Speaker 3: of greats that also didn't have that in, him but
Speaker 3: this guy was doing, it in my, opinion before anyone
Speaker 3: else in that regard, anyway he still had like, yeah
Speaker 3: back in the day he had the bare knuckle right
Speaker 3: or Uh John sullivan and shit like.
Speaker 2: That they're, like, yeah they they were insane for their
Speaker 2: day and.
Speaker 3: Age but when they started to try to formalize the
Speaker 3: sport and have a real proper league behind it with
Speaker 3: some sort of rules and, Things rocky was just out
Speaker 3: there doing the most for nobody's, business just for the fuck.
Speaker 2: Of, it you.
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah BUT i like to, Say Sugar Ray, robinson
Speaker 1: he went through all the weights and his records fucking.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable he jumped classes a good. BIT i forgot about.
Speaker 1: That, yeah, yeah that's WHAT i. Mean and, yeah the
Speaker 1: reason it was the poundful pound because he wouldn't put
Speaker 1: a title on him because he wouldn't play into the.
Speaker 5: Mafia never gets brought up up who's the?
Speaker 1: Best there's a lot of it if you'd start looking
Speaker 1: at WHAT i mean thereby the burden of our, applause
Speaker 1: like these great things are, done but they've never actually
Speaker 1: seen for how. Great, yeah like the The batman, trilogy
Speaker 1: AND i love the third film That That night, Right
Speaker 1: That Night. Rise, yeah and everyone says it's crop and
Speaker 1: WHAT i like it a lot who says it's.
Speaker 2: Crap there's a that must be A british, thing. Dude In,
Speaker 2: america people fucks with the Dark Knight.
Speaker 1: Rises yeah that's the main, one you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah.
Speaker 1: All, right good. God i'm glad that sees it the
Speaker 1: WAY i. Do i'm of the opinion if he didn't,
Speaker 1: DIE i don't think That Night.
Speaker 5: Return gets as.
Speaker 2: Much maybe, yes maybe, NO i do THINK.
Speaker 7: I.
Speaker 2: DID i enjoyed his his version of The.
Speaker 3: JOKER i DON'T i agree with what you're saying as
Speaker 3: far as like the hype that surrounded the movie after
Speaker 3: it came out with his death like, that they absolutely
Speaker 3: tied it for. SURE i think it would have still
Speaker 3: been maybe not as, popular but very popular, regardless.
Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of he died for the, craft
Speaker 1: he died for.
Speaker 2: The art and all that ship like he died of
Speaker 2: an ex od what?
Speaker 1: What that's what? That you know obviously when you when
Speaker 1: you check some of these, people that's what they go. With,
Speaker 1: Fantastic but did That Night? Rise is like this is
Speaker 1: where like the burden of a plot without a plot
Speaker 1: sorry comes into a Fel did he die at the
Speaker 1: end or did he? Die nobody? Knows it's up to your.
Speaker 1: Interpretation you realize that the only way to save the
Speaker 1: city is he needs to. Go, yeah never fant doesn't
Speaker 1: make a big deal of. It he just obviously takes
Speaker 1: the nuke away and.
Speaker 5: That's the be.
Speaker 1: All AND i have the opinion that he did. Die
Speaker 1: AND i Think Michael caine sees him at the end
Speaker 1: in the restaurant because that's what he wants to. See,
Speaker 1: sure you know WHAT i, mean that that's what he
Speaker 1: wants his last dimish to. Be but, again that's the
Speaker 1: burden Oft he's never, flanked he's never. Done people don't
Speaker 1: actually know what he. Did he just hid the actual.
Speaker 1: Job me doing my. JOB i do get, fans, OBVIOUS
Speaker 1: i get a little gifts and shit off learners and
Speaker 1: stuff like, That but you know WHAT i, MEAN i
Speaker 1: just going and do WHAT i need to. DO i
Speaker 1: teach people how to do a. Job in twenty years,
Speaker 1: Time i'm hoping that maybe one day he might go
Speaker 1: guy more than. Like that's never going to fucking. HAPPEN
Speaker 1: i just go in and do WHAT i need to.
Speaker 1: Do that's that's the real world we live. In i'm
Speaker 1: not that's how my books come.
Speaker 5: Across it's just.
Speaker 1: Regular it's not so. Regular, obviously it's got. Thousands, shit
Speaker 1: it's just people doing what they need to. Do but
Speaker 1: you don't get the full unhappy. Ending sounds really depressed
Speaker 1: WHEN i say, this because obviously life doesn't go that.
Speaker 3: Way which, truth, no, yeah, life life very rarely has
Speaker 3: the happy ending and the good guy always wins and
Speaker 3: rides off into the sunset with the. Girl, no that's
Speaker 3: not how the real, world very very fucking rarely does
Speaker 3: that actually.
Speaker 1: Happen SO i will give a bit of an idea
Speaker 1: about the third, book which will be The weight of The.
Speaker 1: Crown he refuses the, promoters he doesn't want to, join you,
Speaker 1: know join the promotional, ranks and all that is just
Speaker 1: try and fuck him, over and then that's the way
Speaker 1: of The. Crown it's, like you, know holding this title
Speaker 1: ways a lot when you're not in the. Club, yeah
Speaker 1: which again we can all, see you, know The but
Speaker 1: obviously the Free mason thing before about where this person
Speaker 1: saying there a, freemason ad said to one of the
Speaker 1: other jus, one if he was a, freemason he wouldn't
Speaker 1: just be a, teacher he'd probably be a.
Speaker 3: Principal buy now maybe, yes maybe now it depends on
Speaker 3: how it depends on how early he is in his.
Speaker 2: Masonry he's, old, okay is.
Speaker 5: In his, sixties so he would have been out a
Speaker 5: Wild so.
Speaker 2: That's What i'm.
Speaker 3: Saying did he join as a twenty year old or
Speaker 3: did he join as a fifty five year?
Speaker 2: Old he said he's been in it for.
Speaker 1: YEARS i. DON'T i think he's full of, shit obviously
Speaker 1: in the nicest way.
Speaker 3: Possible, well even with that being, said and there's also
Speaker 3: variables that go into, that, right did he is he
Speaker 3: some high ranking mason or or did he like go
Speaker 3: and get his little his third level and like that's
Speaker 3: always ever, done and he just like goes to the
Speaker 3: meetings for the budget and for the charity and for
Speaker 3: the networking like. It people make of it more or
Speaker 3: less what they want to get out of, it that's for.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah BUT i think most people went joined to
Speaker 1: get the, benefits especially in the field were. IN i
Speaker 1: don't know. IM i didn't.
Speaker 2: Look. THEN i think you're on.
Speaker 1: Something we have good, conversation we have good debates as.
Speaker 1: Well it's fantastic AND i do like challenging on. It
Speaker 1: but what was that? Now, Yes well, that LIKE i,
Speaker 1: said that's the. System so my my books are more
Speaker 1: like the system is always going to be. There you
Speaker 1: can't break, it you'll never end.
Speaker 2: It it's.
Speaker 5: Impossible you're going to learn how to play in.
Speaker 1: It Like i've heard the shows with yourself and a
Speaker 1: few of the pings of the people sorry of the
Speaker 1: sovereign cities and or whatever bullshit that, is.
Speaker 2: Bro that's it's hilarious to.
Speaker 1: ME i find it hilarious in the fact that, like, oh, say,
Speaker 1: okay so you can drive around without a, license or
Speaker 1: you don't need a bank account all this, bullshit but
Speaker 1: that's fantastic.
Speaker 3: Job but they can't get a job because that means
Speaker 3: they're a part of the. System and it's, dude that's the.
Speaker 3: Thing there are some people that get down with the
Speaker 3: sovereign citizen thing THAT i think that they have figured
Speaker 3: out a way to read the law the correct, way
Speaker 3: and somehow that means that the law that they are
Speaker 3: reading doesn't apply to them because of the law that
Speaker 3: they are taking and accounting for but not accounting for or.
Speaker 2: Whatever and then the.
Speaker 3: Other half of it like goes back to full fledged
Speaker 3: white supremacy like, that there's no two ways about. It
Speaker 3: these people are either out of their mind misinterpreting the,
Speaker 3: words or it all ties back to Neo.
Speaker 2: Nazis there's there's no other.
Speaker 1: Version, Yeah, so, LIKE i, MEAN i don't know too
Speaker 1: much about, it BUT i didn't know. What you don't
Speaker 1: need a driving, license it's. Okay, then well you need.
Speaker 1: Insurance to get, insurance you need to pay for. Insurance
Speaker 1: that has to be done through a bank. Account to
Speaker 1: get a bunk, account you need to have an.
Speaker 5: Address to have an, address you need to have some
Speaker 5: form OF.
Speaker 1: Vite. YEAH i think the idea of it sounds, fantastic but,
Speaker 1: again that means you're out of the. System that means
Speaker 1: you're out of fucking.
Speaker 5: Everything.
Speaker 3: Dude the people that do the whole sovereign citizen, bullshit
Speaker 3: they're all living in first world. Countries that's also very,
Speaker 3: important because if you were to move right now To,
Speaker 3: kenya you could do the whole sovereign citizen. Shit when
Speaker 3: you have a, problem no one's coming to help. You
Speaker 3: you are completely off, grid off the. System all of.
Speaker 2: This you notice they don't do that.
Speaker 3: There you notice none of these sovereign citizen types move
Speaker 3: to countries like that.
Speaker 2: Where they would truly be left. Alone because they that's
Speaker 2: not the.
Speaker 3: Case they want all of the benefits of the system
Speaker 3: without being a part of the. System and it's, Like i'm,
Speaker 3: sorry you. Can't you can't play the game unless you
Speaker 3: pay the. Anti that's how this.
Speaker 1: Works so LIKE i saying that about playing within the
Speaker 1: system and bring it back to the again to the
Speaker 1: boxing root Of Jake, park he's playing within the, System
Speaker 1: andrew takes. PLAYING i don't like what we, do but
Speaker 1: they're learned.
Speaker 5: To this works for. THEM i, say playing within the,
Speaker 5: rules doing certain.
Speaker 1: Things maren might not be. Right it might BE i don't.
Speaker 1: Know in one hundred years, time When Jake paul's great
Speaker 1: great grandkids never have to, WORK i don't think they're
Speaker 1: going to give a ship that is their great granddad
Speaker 1: fucking dressed up as Fucking tiger Or goofy or whatever
Speaker 1: it is he. DID i don't think they're going to
Speaker 1: give a ship that he went into a boxing ring
Speaker 1: with And joshua and got his job broke there just
Speaker 1: going to, go my great great great great grandady did
Speaker 1: something and NOW i don't have to, work you. Know,
Speaker 1: yeah that's playing within The that's WHAT i want to
Speaker 1: try and do now with with obviously these Box i've pitched.
Speaker 1: It IF i do get, SOMETHING i will be obviously over.
Speaker 1: Them you, Know i'll give a ship about. It i've
Speaker 1: been cleared a few, Bills.
Speaker 5: Chris that's fine with.
Speaker 1: Me for my, KIDS i want them to get the
Speaker 1: benefit of, it and THEN i obviously want to have future.
Speaker 1: GRANDKIDS i want them to get the benefit out of.
Speaker 1: It IF i wanted to really make, MONEY i wan't
Speaker 1: write fucking. Book you. Know my idea for the for the,
Speaker 1: book and they are three e books at the. MINUTE
Speaker 1: i can't make them free In, amazon But i've made
Speaker 1: them as cheap AS i possibly. CAN i think they're
Speaker 1: a dollar In america for the. Ebook it's seventy seven
Speaker 1: p In. England the book basically just covers, print SO
Speaker 1: i don't make anything off if you buy the actual
Speaker 1: print version of Making i'm not asked about that as.
Speaker 1: Such it's MORE i want to try and get out.
Speaker 1: THERE i wanted to go to an. AGENT i want
Speaker 1: an agent to pick it up and, go, well this is.
Speaker 1: FANTASTIC i can pitch the books to a. PUBLISHER i get,
Speaker 1: publishing where.
Speaker 5: They might pitch it to A netflix or AN hbo
Speaker 5: or An.
Speaker 1: AMAZON i get Them. Whinner i'm not so much about
Speaker 1: about getting Fucking daniel down the Streets, moneer, right you,
Speaker 1: know giving me a, FIVE i ain't going to do that.
Speaker 1: Much me writing these books And netflix going fucking we
Speaker 1: paid four million for the Fucking witcher books will give
Speaker 1: you the same real that's playing within the, system that's
Speaker 1: trying to bend. It people have laughed in junk and
Speaker 1: he might never make. Anything that's like you, KNOW i
Speaker 1: might never do, WELL i don't try and never, know,
Speaker 1: right these things in, place especially these days with the, internet,
Speaker 1: obviously like, yourself with the podcasts and, stuff it's so
Speaker 1: much easier these days to play within the rules to
Speaker 1: make yourself. Better, yeah that's All i'm trying to, do
Speaker 1: trying to do what you're trying to. Do the reasons
Speaker 1: for the free ebooks is like what you have got
Speaker 1: at the minute you give out the free. Shows you
Speaker 1: can pay for the shows without the, ads which obviously
Speaker 1: helped with the you, know but the ads pay for the.
Speaker 1: Show my free ebooks at the minute to get my you,
Speaker 1: know hopefully a fair couple of downloads so an agent
Speaker 1: might look at and, go this guy has already got
Speaker 1: a bit of a following Maybe i'll take a chance on.
Speaker 1: It that's going to trying to obviously help me possibly,
Speaker 1: grow that's trying to play within the.
Speaker 2: System BUT i love how you ard this for the
Speaker 2: passion project start writing these, books.
Speaker 3: Right, well the point is, though you did this as
Speaker 3: a homage to your, dad, right and then to the,
Speaker 3: people to the people around you that are, important and
Speaker 3: it was all about the passion project of. It the
Speaker 3: kid with dyslexia that had a hard time in school
Speaker 3: is now writing multiple books and he has aspirations of
Speaker 3: getting to twenty two books as of. Now that might
Speaker 3: go even, higher who fucking, Knows but Like i've got
Speaker 3: more than, that right, Right but that's my. Point i've
Speaker 3: got the idea is it's it's it's still for the
Speaker 3: love of the. Game you didn't write these books with
Speaker 3: the hopes of getting rich and. Famous if it, happens the,
Speaker 3: Fine but regardless if that never, happens you're still going
Speaker 3: to complete the.
Speaker 2: Series, yeah, yeah, YEAH i can say that.
Speaker 1: The twenty two i'm gonna call it five and a
Speaker 1: half are. Written everything else has completely outlined all the.
Speaker 1: Chapters everything it also got to do is just go
Speaker 1: into each So the WAY i do mine IS i
Speaker 1: Think i'm an, academic, RIGHT i don't know how it's.
Speaker 1: Right i've never been. Taught so it's, LIKE i want
Speaker 1: it to BE x amount of chapters with about roughly
Speaker 1: ABOUT x amount of. Words i've gone into each, chapter
Speaker 1: and god, right it's going to be three or four.
Speaker 1: SCENES i don't know if that's the right way of
Speaker 1: doing it orfu. Not if you start, reading you'll see
Speaker 1: where the scenes. Break within each, SCENE i go right
Speaker 1: when it's with three or four bullet points and all.
Speaker 1: That this is WHY i can do it quite. Easily
Speaker 1: Alls i've got to go into each scene and go,
Speaker 1: right this is three or four bullet, Points so three
Speaker 1: or four bullet points with fifteen twenty words per bullet.
Speaker 1: Point As i've got to do is turn them twenty
Speaker 1: words into two hundred. Words i've got eight hundred. Words, yeah,
Speaker 1: okay very very. Quite that's the Way i've worked. IT
Speaker 1: i didn't do that with the First my first was
Speaker 1: to try and write everything out in one. Go once
Speaker 1: it worked, out Like i'm trying to, do you, know
Speaker 1: trying to do too, much it may break it down
Speaker 1: as small AS i possibly. Can i'll break it into.
Speaker 1: Chapters i'll break it into. Scenes i'll break each scene
Speaker 1: into into three or four bullet. Points AND i have
Speaker 1: got to do is turn this like, say fifteen to
Speaker 1: twenty word sentence into two hundred words and only times.
Speaker 1: It but it's not that, hard Right when people say
Speaker 1: how you're doing it sort of, quick it's Like i'm
Speaker 1: doing it in a, very very micro way AND i
Speaker 1: don't lose. Focus THEN i can write chapter, ONE i
Speaker 1: can write chapter. TEN i can write scene three of chapter.
Speaker 1: SEVENTEEN i can go back to write scene two of chapter. Four,
Speaker 1: Yeah i've already got everything fully worked. Out it's just
Speaker 1: now going and adding it. In WHEN i, say one
Speaker 1: of the things obviously about, that the passion for. It
Speaker 1: i've just finished The rayer, book you, know and The
Speaker 1: ryven one is being. Edited i've shown them the. Covers
Speaker 1: they fucking love, it you know WHAT i. Mean that's,
Speaker 1: me that's, me you. Know you know that's the best
Speaker 1: thing about, it you. Know and LIKE i, SAID i
Speaker 1: can make a little bit of money in the future from. It,
Speaker 1: then you, KNOW i hope it do. WELL i do not.
Speaker 5: Cry i'll never.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah the ideas giving it a.
Speaker 2: Go it's very similar to how we make.
Speaker 3: Content to be completely honest with, you we have the, premise,
Speaker 3: right we have the thing that we are going to
Speaker 3: be hitting on the. Most we find, sources we find
Speaker 3: the key bullet, points we find some, controversy we find
Speaker 3: some some people that the debunkers might say, this here's
Speaker 3: the refutations of, that and then the rest of it
Speaker 3: is just us expounding upon it and giving not just
Speaker 3: our hot, takes but more of the background to, it
Speaker 3: painting the, picture so to.
Speaker 2: Speak it's very, similar, Honestly.
Speaker 5: YEAH i think that's AND i can say when it's
Speaker 5: coming to.
Speaker 1: To the, teaching, LIKE i, Know i'm very different from
Speaker 1: the other chuitors in, College Like i'd like to break
Speaker 1: cold mind that at the end of the each, LESSON
Speaker 1: i break it down with the, learners go write what
Speaker 1: did we?
Speaker 2: Do and is the bullet?
Speaker 1: Points and ALL i basically say is like these bullet
Speaker 1: points that you've told me to write on the, board
Speaker 1: all you've got to do is turn them into. Sentence,
Speaker 1: yeah some of very, quickly some having you know, Though,
Speaker 1: yeah so they think That i'm telling them everything, Said
Speaker 1: i'm not telling you. Anything you tell me what to
Speaker 1: write on the. BOARD i write very simple bullet. Point
Speaker 1: your idea is for you to fill in the. Rest
Speaker 1: so like someone picks it up very, quickly this is
Speaker 1: HOW i am working, Out like who's not so much got,
Speaker 1: it but like who's probably going to get.
Speaker 5: Somewhere like the ones that are picking that up.
Speaker 1: Very, quickly like the work's already, done they're not going
Speaker 1: to have a. Problem the ones THAT i that cannot get,
Speaker 1: that and like when there's so many job cards into
Speaker 1: it Now i'm not getting it automagically goes like, YEAH
Speaker 1: i want to SAY i lost, cause but LIKE i
Speaker 1: don't think this is for. You you, Know i'm breaking
Speaker 1: it down as small as possible to help you as
Speaker 1: much as. Possible you don't want the, help or you're
Speaker 1: not taking the, help or you just do not get
Speaker 1: it at. All and that's coming from LIKE i said
Speaker 1: that the book out there outlines it's Like i've got this.
Speaker 1: IDEA i can't write one hundred and fifty thousand. Words
Speaker 1: it's never gonna fucking. HAPPEN i can take one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand words and go, RIGHT i want three
Speaker 1: thousand words per, chapter and THEN i start breaking that.
Speaker 1: Down all, right that should be the x amount of
Speaker 1: chapters and THEN i want so many scenes and that
Speaker 1: should BE x amount of, words And i'll roughly go from.
Speaker 5: There AND i go from there and BEFORE i know
Speaker 5: everything's fucking.
Speaker 1: Done that's, AWESOME i think when it comes to like.
Speaker 5: So, obviously When Alista crowley wrote a book of The
Speaker 5: low and he says he did.
Speaker 1: It by autom mike writing and all that, SHIT i
Speaker 1: kind of get that now BECAUSE i don't know How
Speaker 1: i'm writing When i'm, writing But i've got the, idea
Speaker 1: and Because i've broke it down that, small the actual writing,
Speaker 1: side isn't that. Difficult, YEAH i think that's where the
Speaker 1: automic writing comes. FROM i don't think it's A i
Speaker 1: wrote one hundred thousand words in one fucking. GO i
Speaker 1: think IT'S i broke it down that. Much i've now
Speaker 1: made this hundred thousand words so fucking easy and. Simple
Speaker 1: it's like it's come from, nowhere but it's always been.
Speaker 1: There inside makes, sense, Yeah, Perc, yeah it.
Speaker 2: Makes a lot of.
Speaker 7: SENSE i actually wanted to write a book for years and.
Speaker 7: YEARS i have a whole, STORYLINE i have all the, CHARACTERS.
Speaker 6: I have a whole.
Speaker 7: World i've built the whole thing in my, head BUT
Speaker 7: i don't know If i'll ever write.
Speaker 6: It you give it a.
Speaker 5: Go it's just about structuring.
Speaker 1: It so at the, Minute i'm doing my unicorse as
Speaker 1: well for my teaching, degree and we've got to write our.
Speaker 5: First part of our.
Speaker 1: Assignment and WHEN i was in the class a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago and now everyone's panicking about And i'm just sat, there,
Speaker 1: like you, Know i've obviously mentioned about the dyslex in THE,
Speaker 1: Adhd i'm not giving a, fuck, Right AND i just
Speaker 1: turn around to one of them and, went, right this
Speaker 1: IS i went.
Speaker 5: Out of this part of this.
Speaker 1: Assignment you've got twelve points. There pick four of. Them
Speaker 1: the pick, four and my, alls you've now got to
Speaker 1: do is pick this four and you only need to
Speaker 1: WRITE i think it's like seven hundred, words when that's
Speaker 1: four fucking. Paragraphs when if you actually then break, that
Speaker 1: it's only like one hundred and seventy five words per.
Speaker 1: PARAGRAPH i, went and you've already written fucking. Twenty, yeah
Speaker 1: you just got to expend that now to one hundred
Speaker 1: and SEVENTY i went. Before when it broke it down
Speaker 1: for one of the others in, there she was, like,
Speaker 1: oh that's so much.
Speaker 5: CHEESY i was, like, YEAH i.
Speaker 1: WENT i think one of the things like when it
Speaker 1: comes to certain things is over complicating.
Speaker 3: Everything, yeah and it also seems like a daunting task
Speaker 3: and you look at the over all picture of what it,
Speaker 3: is but it's like how do you eat an elephant
Speaker 3: one bite at the?
Speaker 2: Time like what's?
Speaker 7: That what's that saying that our parents told us and.
Speaker 7: Everything that's what my mom always said WHEN i was
Speaker 7: BECAUSE i would get so stressed out.
Speaker 2: In all the.
Speaker 7: Details, yeah bomb, down and so she'd be, like break it,
Speaker 7: down do one thing at a.
Speaker 6: Time and then even now WHEN i start writing, SOMETHING
Speaker 6: i get Like.
Speaker 7: I'm all, here and THEN i have to try to
Speaker 7: focus myself in on the one little thing at a.
Speaker 7: Time if, Not i'll take. Forever Because i'm a.
Speaker 3: Perfectionist SO i have to tell my kids the same thing,
Speaker 3: Whenever like the dishes don't get done for three, days
Speaker 3: they're so far it's.
Speaker 2: Overflowing oh my, god there's so.
Speaker 3: Much i'm, like, dude start with a cup and rinse
Speaker 3: that bitch out and throwing its, next go to a.
Speaker 3: Plate just do one dish at a. TIME i promise
Speaker 3: it's not as big of a task as you think
Speaker 3: it actually is if you're just looking at the. Hole,
Speaker 3: yeah it's.
Speaker 2: It's.
Speaker 3: Uh it can be a bit, disconcerting it can be
Speaker 3: a little bit, Intimidating but same thing with writing a,
Speaker 3: book like how was the Great american novel ever?
Speaker 2: Written or in this, case the Great british novel ever?
Speaker 2: Written you, know one word at a? Time, YEAH i
Speaker 2: say that to.
Speaker 1: My learned is, like, Go i've written these books.
Speaker 5: Ago you do realize it's started with one.
Speaker 1: Word one word become, tick to become, free four, five,
Speaker 1: six AND i need to just fucking. Go there's one hundred.
Speaker 5: Thousand, words LIKE i think.
Speaker 1: That that's WHY i struggled with the first one as, such.
Speaker 2: Because you were trying to take on the whole as a, yeah.
Speaker 1: And it worked out very. Quickly this is, it like,
Speaker 1: say it's a Fucking i'm trying to run a mind
Speaker 1: from without a. Training it's fucking. Impossible it's LIKE i
Speaker 1: don't have to build myself. Up so it's sort of
Speaker 1: like the second one of like The Haitian, revolution like
Speaker 1: let me try and structure this as a thirty filesand word,
Speaker 1: book and THEN i can learn to expand from there
Speaker 1: and from there and just out and it's become so easy.
Speaker 1: Now and the obviously because it's based around the, system
Speaker 1: the conspiracies helped fucking ship because the conspiracy. MINDED i
Speaker 1: remember THE i think that WHEN i messaged about the particular,
Speaker 1: Topic i've messaged you. Before i'd listened to your, show
Speaker 1: and then you mentioned that in your. Show you And
Speaker 1: jonathan said, wow have we never done a short on?
Speaker 1: This AND i was, like, fuck have this message of these? Guys?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Perfect and.
Speaker 3: A lot of our inspiration does come from the cult
Speaker 3: members that will dm us and be, like, hey y'all
Speaker 3: should do a show on. This and it's like some
Speaker 3: of these things like we've touched on a couple of years,
Speaker 3: ago and like maybe we could revamp.
Speaker 2: It some of them's, like, wait what the fuck is?
Speaker 2: This how have you never heard of?
Speaker 1: This? Yeah BUT i Mean i'd already had the idea
Speaker 1: AND i already done the. Outline it was like two
Speaker 1: or three days like listening to the show and then
Speaker 1: you mentioned like this is the whole. Thing was like
Speaker 1: WHEN i, SAID i want to get my eyed out here,
Speaker 1: first because more thing like, this one's probably gonna have something.
Speaker 5: Similar.
Speaker 1: Yeah and then there was another One i'd laid out
Speaker 1: On mac and tyan ovella for a Super. SOLDIER a day,
Speaker 1: later you released an episode on a Super soldier AND
Speaker 1: i was, like, FUCK i don't know IF i can.
Speaker 5: Do this can sound Like i'm just. Copying it just happens.
Speaker 1: That synchronicity are some bullshit like that whatever the word.
Speaker 2: Is but, yeah the matrix is. REAL i. Guess fuck.
Speaker 1: Around the whole conspiracy. Thing it's, like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of CONSPIRACIES i, like And i'm more into conspiracy for
Speaker 1: this for the. Fun they don't you, know they don't
Speaker 1: keep me awake at, night, Right this is what this
Speaker 1: is WHY i like playing within the. System like the
Speaker 1: system is always going to. Be there's NOTHING i can
Speaker 1: do THAT i can learn to not let it bother
Speaker 1: me that. MUCH i can learn that like the money.
Speaker 1: System LIKE i explained this to my learners LIKE i
Speaker 1: had a few months. Ago one of them was, like, oh,
Speaker 1: really like you trained. US i was, like all, right
Speaker 1: now that you come. SNEAKERS i was, like all, right nice,
Speaker 1: one AND i bet you what like Him in a
Speaker 1: minute he, WENT i, Went i'm going to tell you the. Price.
Speaker 1: Yeah they just went, okay you went, well how much were?
Speaker 1: Yours and he's that that proud of. Himself one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty. Pounds it was, like, yeah it's too. Expensive
Speaker 1: then how much they think mine? Were then he's like eighty, pound,
Speaker 1: no ninety, pound, no one hundred, pounds no one you went?
Speaker 5: Cheaper, went, yeah a lot. Cheaper twenty five pounds they cost.
Speaker 2: ME i want that to.
Speaker 5: Went you don't like, him, now do? You and he
Speaker 5: sat there and you're so. Confused he was, like.
Speaker 6: You.
Speaker 5: Don't he was like he didn't know what to sell.
Speaker 1: It but when you've got this image because it's been
Speaker 1: put there that something's only good if it costs.
Speaker 5: Something right, now you liked him UNTIL i told you the.
Speaker 3: Price oh, dude, yeah selling Merch we there my brother in,
Speaker 3: law he Former navy. Seal he and a couple of
Speaker 3: seal buddies. Aside they want to start.
Speaker 2: A t shirt. Company. Right there is a real scientific
Speaker 2: data that has been done on.
Speaker 3: This people are more likely to buy A t, shirt same,
Speaker 3: quality same, logo same all the. Things they are way
Speaker 3: more likely to buy A t shirt if it costs
Speaker 3: between thirty to forty dollars than if it costs ten
Speaker 3: to eighteen, dollars like to an exponential. Margin they will
Speaker 3: buy the thirty dollars shirt even if it's the exact
Speaker 3: same quality and price whatever of the eight of the
Speaker 3: ten dollars.
Speaker 2: Shirt.
Speaker 5: WHY i don't, know BUT i had the same. Thing
Speaker 5: like we when to check the price of the. Books
Speaker 5: it was, like, well if you make them a pound
Speaker 5: or a, dollar are you make them?
Speaker 1: Free most people probably won't want them because they'll think
Speaker 1: that they're not worth. Anything i'm, LIKE i get.
Speaker 3: That, well because we have been acclimatized to somehow the
Speaker 3: price tag is a quality thing rather than the actual
Speaker 3: the actual quality of it and the actual value of.
Speaker 2: It we associate value with price tag rather than value with. Quality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, like LIKE i, SAID i was thinking about,
Speaker 1: that AND i was, like, well that's What i'm going
Speaker 1: to do it. NOW i need to get him. OUT
Speaker 1: i need to get as many out so people can see.
Speaker 1: It BUT i know people are not going to pay for,
Speaker 1: it because he pays for fucking. Books and why would
Speaker 1: you pay for some guy you've never heard of a
Speaker 1: five pounds book when you can go by a well
Speaker 1: known writer for a five Pound i've reached out to
Speaker 1: like yourself and Obviously i've been On i've been ON
Speaker 1: i don't know if you, know generally On Subconscious. Realms
Speaker 1: he's normally on With Ny, patriot And i've been. On,
Speaker 1: Yeah i've been On brent's, Podcast Benet's sorry? Podcasting was it?
Speaker 1: FUCKING i feel really. Better remember it's a long.
Speaker 5: Name that's why.
Speaker 6: People do buy. Books. Yeah in my room right, now
Speaker 6: in my bedroom podcasting, SEAT i have three full.
Speaker 7: Bookshelves plus shelves on the wall that are covered in,
Speaker 7: books plus four more books shelves out in my living
Speaker 7: room that are full of.
Speaker 3: Books but how many of those books were from authors
Speaker 3: that you had never heard of before you spent money
Speaker 3: on their?
Speaker 2: Books?
Speaker 6: Uh quite a few of.
Speaker 7: Them, ACTUALLY i actually have signed copies of BOOKS i
Speaker 7: bought At Barnes noble that it was local artists That
Speaker 7: i've never read had sign, books AND i was, like
Speaker 7: you know, What i'm gonna buy them just in. Case,
Speaker 7: actually the majority of these books in this, room this
Speaker 7: one in, particular this woman actually has wrote me. BACK
Speaker 7: i have had a lot of correspondence with her Over.
Speaker 7: Instagram never heard of. Her it was a fluke. THING
Speaker 7: i think this is my signed copy actually THAT i.
Speaker 7: BOUGHT i don't know if this is the.
Speaker 6: One, yes it.
Speaker 7: Is so this is the signed copy of the one
Speaker 7: THAT i bought from, her AND i got it from
Speaker 7: her specifically From. INSTAGRAM i was, Like, hey is there
Speaker 7: ANYWAY i could buy a signed copy from?
Speaker 6: You and she wasn't very. Big now she's become a lot.
Speaker 7: Bigger she's on her second or, no she's on her
Speaker 7: third book, now BECAUSE i have both of.
Speaker 6: Them but you'd be amade is once people.
Speaker 7: Actually start hearing about you or seeing your, stuff or
Speaker 7: you go TO i don't know if you guys Have
Speaker 7: barnes And.
Speaker 5: Noble, no we have a lot Of stones around here AND. W. H.
Speaker 6: Smith, yeah so if you go.
Speaker 7: And set up tables a lot of people THAT i
Speaker 7: actually owned quite a few books from random people That
Speaker 7: i've met at A barnes And noble that's set up
Speaker 7: a table AND i went up and was, like what's
Speaker 7: your book? About tell me about your, story and some
Speaker 7: of THEM i don't even like that kind of, genre
Speaker 7: AND i ended up with them and they're actually pretty.
Speaker 5: Good so what one slight ADVANTAGE i do have is
Speaker 5: obviously that the learn is in.
Speaker 1: Work they all knew and whenever released them That i've
Speaker 1: said to them, Like i'm want to come back After
Speaker 1: christmas when the boxing one will be.
Speaker 5: READY i want to download it for. You i'm going
Speaker 5: to download. YOU i want to promote for you as.
Speaker 1: WELL i do have that little bit of an advantage
Speaker 1: Which i'm HOPING i can catch onto a bit of.
Speaker 1: Them And i've said someone LIKE i, went, okay if
Speaker 1: you download it AND i appreciate, IT i was, like
Speaker 1: you don't have to read, it, though.
Speaker 5: Read AND i actually.
Speaker 1: Thought i've had a lot come up to me into
Speaker 1: around and, go that's really good that And i'm, LIKE
Speaker 1: i don't know if it's blowing smoking LIKE i hope they're.
Speaker 2: Not they're extra. Credit.
Speaker 1: Bro well they've all say round and, gone it's really good,
Speaker 1: that you, know And i'm, LIKE i always, go is, it,
Speaker 1: yeah it's really. GOOD a couple of the tutors have
Speaker 1: read it and they they're enjoying. It So i'm hoping,
Speaker 1: that you, know it's more about at the minute just
Speaker 1: to download numbers And i'm hoping people are like it
Speaker 1: and then OBVIOUSLY i can get the ratings and. Stuff
Speaker 1: that's when it will, start you. KNOW I i'm pitching
Speaker 1: to an, agent and they go and look at, right
Speaker 1: you're selling them for. Free but he's got fucking fifty
Speaker 1: five star.
Speaker 5: You, know refuse.
Speaker 1: Here he must be doing something. Right they don't give
Speaker 1: a shit about how much. Money I'M i could sell
Speaker 1: him for a million pounds of book and make four.
Speaker 1: Million they don't give a. Fuck they'll just go he
Speaker 1: sold four bucks and putting them out for. Free they
Speaker 1: go with a thousand. Downloads that's a thousand people that
Speaker 1: don't know. Him if we've got a little bit of
Speaker 1: a machine behind, him that thousand could become ten, thousand
Speaker 1: one hundred.
Speaker 3: Thousand, well we're hoping that you going on this show
Speaker 3: and these other, podcasts well hopefully get you some more,
Speaker 3: downloads some more, publicity some more. Notoriety as we wrap this,
Speaker 3: episode where can the people download your? Books give us the,
Speaker 3: title where can they find? Them give a shameless plug
Speaker 3: all the. Things, SO i, Mean i'm not massive on The.
Speaker 1: Instagram i'm trying to work it. Out it's called THE
Speaker 1: viv verse. Thirteen so That's i'm going to spell this.
Speaker 1: Out so it V E V E V E R
Speaker 1: S e THIRTEEN viv verse.
Speaker 2: Thirteen, yes.
Speaker 1: GOTCHA i will be putting some more pictures on. There
Speaker 1: my main thing at the minute is if you tap
Speaker 1: my name in on On Amazon Raymond, sutherland there is
Speaker 1: one of a book By it's not by. ME i
Speaker 1: don't know what it, is but it's got the same
Speaker 1: name my books do come up on. There you have
Speaker 1: to pay for him there if you, do that's totally.
Speaker 1: Fine JUST i don't get any money for. Him i'm
Speaker 1: not asked about. That but they are free on is
Speaker 1: It kuboo books you can GET i know there the
Speaker 1: free books and bands And noble the free through The
Speaker 1: apple book. Apps so if you've got An apple, phone
Speaker 1: just open Up Apple, books type in mind, Name i'll
Speaker 1: come up there the free, books download, them have a.
Speaker 1: Read hopefully you'll like him if you do follow. Me
Speaker 1: if you do want to message me On instagram give me.
Speaker 1: Ideas i'm open. To but if someone wants to give
Speaker 1: me an, IDEA i will try and come up with
Speaker 1: an idea for a book for. Something i've got that fucking.
Speaker 1: Many you, Know i'm never opposed to get him three.
Speaker 1: Ideas IF i do take, off you Know i'm going
Speaker 1: to need all the ideas that can possibly. GET i
Speaker 1: feel that my artwork for the books is really well.
Speaker 1: DONE i got a lot of compliments on. THAT i
Speaker 1: will send you over some screenshots so you can have
Speaker 1: work with.
Speaker 5: Yourself hell, yeah there's a lot.
Speaker 1: THERE i.
Speaker 5: Know i've stored out a lot of fucking information. There
Speaker 5: i'm hoping some people can see. THAT i can jump
Speaker 5: around the houses and then make everything. Connect that's how
Speaker 5: all the books.
Speaker 1: Work the first, book what You saw is A Voodoo
Speaker 1: warrior The Hard, road And No mass is a. Boxer
Speaker 1: totally different, character same, character both, shadow both of both
Speaker 1: in the same. Universe two separate different rules ones a
Speaker 1: box or ones of who do You? Warrior what you
Speaker 1: should see that it's still the. Same all the rules
Speaker 1: APPLY i. Follow i've written out a doctrine that all
Speaker 1: my books will, follow so regardless of WHAT i, write
Speaker 1: everything should sound exactly like.
Speaker 5: Me it's not going to.
Speaker 1: Be i've wrote a boxing, book and i wrote a voodoo,
Speaker 1: book And i've wrote a book about the rippop just random.
Speaker 5: Ones it's, like, no that one and that one and that,
Speaker 5: one even though they're not the, same they all.
Speaker 1: Connect.
Speaker 7: YEAH i do like artworks for your, Books SO i
Speaker 7: pulled up the artwork for the One, yeah it's hard
Speaker 7: because there you go.
Speaker 1: Do the hard, road the hard, road and then no,
Speaker 1: mass no. Mass i'm really proud Of.
Speaker 6: Sick, yeah so it's pretty. Cool they're all really.
Speaker 2: Cool so the Good call.
Speaker 3: Members out, there go check them, Out go download as,
Speaker 3: books help him boost his own, algorithms d m. Him
Speaker 3: we're gonna put all the links in the show notes
Speaker 3: below to find him and the books.
Speaker 2: Themselves as a matter of.
Speaker 1: Fact i'm hoping THAT i get obviously a decent, size
Speaker 1: AND i want to come back and promote more and you,
Speaker 1: know loads of ship and you know it might never.
Speaker 1: HAPPEN i don't, know But i'm HOPING i. Do Fucking
Speaker 1: he's not the hard road one.
Speaker 6: THERE i like this one a. LOT i like that one,
Speaker 6: too SO.
Speaker 5: I slightly changed that one a little, bit And i'll
Speaker 5: send the updated version of.
Speaker 6: That The Haitian, word The Haitian revolution one is really sick.
Speaker 6: TOO i actually really enjoy the artwork and all of.
Speaker 6: Them they look really.
Speaker 1: Cool SO i, SAID i used to be really. GOOD
Speaker 1: i Mean i'm. Not i'm not as good as it
Speaker 1: used to, be BUT i used to be a really
Speaker 1: good art And i've always had the artistic.
Speaker 5: MIND i do feel as good as them, too are?
Speaker 7: Ill the is it on the that's on The instagram
Speaker 7: message that you've sent. Us you have all four of
Speaker 7: yours up on.
Speaker 5: There just give me one, Second i'll see IF i can.
Speaker 2: Fucking this is real, time this is a real, time
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 1: Happening i'll send you over the two boxing ones right,
Speaker 1: now hopefully they come through And i'm. Open when you
Speaker 1: look at.
Speaker 7: Him you might, go oh, wow, okay let's, see let's
Speaker 7: see a Little, yeah.
Speaker 2: Looks like Sucking Bill goldberg behind. Him holy, ship that's the.
Speaker 1: Idea, yeah my mate actually looks similar to, that and
Speaker 1: that's the that's the idea of going obviously a massive roy.
Speaker 5: Head you know that's not, right, obviously but you know
Speaker 5: that's the, idea and the no mass one as.
Speaker 1: Well it's obviously you can see slightly different variation that
Speaker 1: he's obviously off in the corner in the back, there
Speaker 1: so it's not standing tall now. Defeated, yeah, yeah, Wow
Speaker 1: i'm loving, it even if people downloaded just for the,
Speaker 1: one you, know, right it's.
Speaker 6: AWESOME i love it and actually really interesting and reading
Speaker 6: THEM i.
Speaker 7: HAVE i am trying to get to all the different
Speaker 7: people we've had drop books And i'm.
Speaker 6: Like, man oh, yeah, NO i have so many to.
Speaker 7: Read BUT i love books and it does sound really,
Speaker 7: interesting AND i love world building. Books so one of
Speaker 7: the authors behind me has like thirty something. BOOKS i
Speaker 7: actually read another author that has forty nine, BOOKS i,
Speaker 7: think or more. Now SO i will say that there
Speaker 7: are a lot of people out there that do love long.
Speaker 7: Series some people will say there is. NOT i will
Speaker 7: totally argue against that BECAUSE i know lots that enjoy
Speaker 7: long world building series AND i am one of those.
Speaker 6: FANS i enjoy it a. Lot SO i look forward
Speaker 6: to seeing all of your books in.
Speaker 1: Completions, absolutely it's more, than LIKE i, say the world
Speaker 1: building of the, universe THAT i can use these characters
Speaker 1: and SLIGHTLY i can Recirculate i've Got i've got a
Speaker 1: lot of other characters back and recirculate these and make
Speaker 1: them slightly, different and.
Speaker 5: Of them HALF i.
Speaker 1: Like, obviously my two daughters are two of the main
Speaker 1: characters that the, children well middle grade books and the young.
Speaker 1: Adults i'm hoping That obviously in a few years and
Speaker 1: walking down the street AND i heard the Name riything
Speaker 1: a couple of.
Speaker 5: Times i'm always going to go from my book that you,
Speaker 5: know you, know our ray or whatever it may.
Speaker 1: Be and, yeah the best thing about it all Is
Speaker 1: i've shown them too that they're really. Excited they can't
Speaker 1: wait to get theirs, now and you know they love
Speaker 1: them and they can now go through school as they
Speaker 1: start getting older and, go my daddy written a book about.
Speaker 1: Me hell, yeah you, know they might even go to high.
Speaker 1: School and someone might go just just you look like
Speaker 1: this person in this book has got the same, name
Speaker 1: and you might, go, yeah it's because it's.
Speaker 2: Me you, know.
Speaker 1: WHEN i eventually have grandkids and, stuff they can those
Speaker 1: to them and, go, oh my granddad broke this book
Speaker 1: about my. Mum and you, know IF i never make it,
Speaker 1: big IF i do make it, big then obviously everyone
Speaker 1: around me will Get my friend's names are in, there
Speaker 1: my mom's name in.
Speaker 2: Them you, know my.
Speaker 5: Brothers will get their characters.
Speaker 1: Eventually you.
Speaker 5: Know it's a family.
Speaker 2: Thing hell, yeah you.
Speaker 1: Know and there's a lot of stuff in there that
Speaker 1: people will like to say certain, dates certain, times certain.
Speaker 5: Places people will never know What they're all personal to,
Speaker 5: me very personal to.
Speaker 1: Me and you, know it's not the only person that's
Speaker 1: not in the fucking books is.
Speaker 5: Me, Yeah i'm not gonna write myself And i'm the
Speaker 5: fucking up that big eddy.
Speaker 3: Man, Well, ray we want to thank you for coming
Speaker 3: on the show this evening slash Morning now that's been
Speaker 3: morning for you the whole time.
Speaker 2: And any the good cult.
Speaker 3: Members go to link in the description check out his,
Speaker 3: books download, them check them, out give, reviews all the,
Speaker 3: things all the, stuff and, hey if you want to
Speaker 3: buy the books, also there's that. Option we're gonna have
Speaker 3: links for all these things in the show notes. Below
Speaker 3: while you're there in those show, notes if you would
Speaker 3: like to get your start in the buying and selling
Speaker 3: and trading of gold and silver boy and then go
Speaker 3: to that LINK cec silver dot com and get your start. Today,
Speaker 3: also while you're down, there you may see a link
Speaker 3: for Or Good feels Cannabis. Seltzer if you would like
Speaker 3: to drink your weed rather than smoke, it then you
Speaker 3: can go ahead and go to the link in the description,
Speaker 3: below and if you go to that, link you'll get
Speaker 3: twenty percent off your order and free shipping to your
Speaker 3: door without any other shameless PLUGS i can think. Of
Speaker 3: raven out know if there's anything you wanted to. Promote, Nope,
Speaker 3: okay well then, Again, raymond thank you so much for
Speaker 3: coming on the. Show all the links in the description
Speaker 3: below for your, books all the. LITERATURE i cannot wait
Speaker 3: to see what happens with this, saga this universe that you're,
Speaker 3: building and hopefully you do make it. Big hopefully this
Speaker 3: shit takes off like wildfire and you become one of
Speaker 3: the great literary you, know minds of our.
Speaker 2: GENERATION i can't.
Speaker 3: Wait to see that happen and know that we were
Speaker 3: there in the beginning of it all when you were
Speaker 3: like just breaking out and starting to make your way
Speaker 3: in this.
Speaker 2: World, brother all, RIGHT i don't.
Speaker 1: Forget anybody me by the, way you, Know so if
Speaker 1: it that does, nothing you, KNOW i always remember where
Speaker 1: it helped along the.
Speaker 2: Way fucking, right, Man we appreciate you in your.
Speaker 3: Time with all that being, said good cult, members what
Speaker 3: you could do to also help not only Boost ray
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Speaker 3: So and with all of this being, said this was
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