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<v Speaker 1>You done fell right down that rabbit holesome reality is

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<v Speaker 1>question the ball time, but you just can't let it

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<v Speaker 1>gold these too right here put it all the show

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<v Speaker 1>with having normal over low, with Southern hospitality, haunt and

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<v Speaker 1>murder may have him one discussing immortality locations with a

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<v Speaker 1>dark past historyad that comes to light fire village with

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<v Speaker 1>a knack or happy thing. He goes on big night hope,

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<v Speaker 1>but thank you to be made dumpty two? What have

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<v Speaker 1>you turned it off?

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<v Speaker 2>The light?

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<v Speaker 1>Mixing in a little comedy to make sure that all

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<v Speaker 1>fish is just right?

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<v Speaker 3>He wellco to a h billy horror story.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's your hopes, Sherry, his freaks, how Sendler's donnish.

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<v Speaker 3>And sometimes they're tad preddy, but never the ferrets Tracy.

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<v Speaker 3>As usual, we want to thank all of our military

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<v Speaker 3>and civil servants all over the world, no matter which

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<v Speaker 3>country you represent, as long as you're one of the

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<v Speaker 3>good guys, we just want to say thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>what you do for us every single day. To the

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<v Speaker 3>men and women and service animals.

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<v Speaker 2>Out there, continue prayers for you guys, Thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>keeping us safe. Always always always praying for you all.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for all you guys do for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Tracy. It's been another one of those weeks where we've

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<v Speaker 3>talked to a lot of people that are struggling and

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<v Speaker 3>going through some things. We want to make sure everybody

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<v Speaker 3>realizes that the group is a safe place. I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of people post because they felt like there

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<v Speaker 3>was no other place that they could post with whatever

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<v Speaker 3>situation they had going on, and I'm glad that people

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<v Speaker 3>feel that way. I just want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>everybody realizes that it is a safe place. Obviously, you

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<v Speaker 3>can contact myself with Tracy, or you can you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you need a professional service. There are professional services

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<v Speaker 3>out there obviously, places like Betterhelp who've been sponsors on

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<v Speaker 3>the show in the past, and Tracy, what else could

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<v Speaker 3>they do?

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<v Speaker 2>You can call nine eight eight the crisis hotline. You

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<v Speaker 2>can also text is seven four one, seven four to one.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you guys, and just reach out to us, please, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, everybody, That song right there is music to my ear?

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<v Speaker 3>Why because that is the intro music to KSR Radio,

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite show for the last almost six years. I

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<v Speaker 3>can honestly say I have never been as entertained by

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<v Speaker 3>radio show as what I have. That one. It was

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<v Speaker 3>the very first podcast I ever listened to, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>actually one of the inspirations to how we do our show.

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<v Speaker 3>They mix a little bit of everything in their personal

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<v Speaker 3>life along with sports. It's UK basketball, football sports themed,

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<v Speaker 3>but they talk about their life, they talk about car recks,

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<v Speaker 3>they talk about ghosts and what have you. And it's,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, for the last six years, it's been

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<v Speaker 3>my all time favorite show. Matt Jones actually was a

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<v Speaker 3>previous attorney, decided to get into radio broadcasting. I'm exciting

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<v Speaker 3>that he did. And now he's got a good group

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<v Speaker 3>with Ryan Lemon, Shannon the Dude, and Drew Franklin helping

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<v Speaker 3>out with the show. And like I said, anybody who

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<v Speaker 3>is in this area of the Kentucky area, they probably

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<v Speaker 3>know the show. It is the most listened to radio

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<v Speaker 3>show in the state and for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually one of the biggest streaming shows in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you go to iTunes, look up KSR and

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<v Speaker 3>give them a listen, I promise you you will not

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<v Speaker 3>be disappointed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's absolutely true. I love to listen to it. As

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of fact, the doctor I work for right

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<v Speaker 2>now has got the sort of an internet radio thing

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<v Speaker 2>going on, but he mentioned that we could get podcasts now,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was really excited. So I'm gonna maybe see

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<v Speaker 2>if he can let us listen to Matt and them

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<v Speaker 2>while we're at work, and hopefully he'll say.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that would be great. And the reason that all

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<v Speaker 3>this is coming about. I know people are saying, why

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<v Speaker 3>are you doing a podcast on Wednesday night? We usually

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<v Speaker 3>only released these things on Sunday, and we're still going

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<v Speaker 3>to be doing our one on Sunday. But let me

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<v Speaker 3>take a little history of this show and what brought

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<v Speaker 3>this about. Matt, if you listen to the show on

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<v Speaker 3>a regular basis, is adamant that there is no such

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<v Speaker 3>thing as ghosts. True, they don't exist, and pretty much

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<v Speaker 3>we'll say you're an idiot if you believe that they

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<v Speaker 3>do exist. Shannon, on the other hand, is a big believer.

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<v Speaker 3>There's definitely ghost He said, got a picture taken from Waverley,

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<v Speaker 3>which we did a show on already, and it's got

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<v Speaker 3>a picture of a ghost. He sent it around and

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<v Speaker 3>got everybody's opinion on Twitter, and a lot of people said, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I see exactly what you're talking about. Of course, Matt

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<v Speaker 3>he completely disagreed, and then you see what you want

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<v Speaker 3>to see. And what they're doing is that there's a

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<v Speaker 3>big Kentucky North Carolina basketball game in Vegas next Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>And what KSR the group has decided to do is

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to take a trip to Vegas. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>take a week long and in the car and just driving.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to stop a bunch of places along the way,

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<v Speaker 3>like Memphis and what have you. One of the places

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to stop is Oklahoma City. Now, why is

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<v Speaker 3>this a big deal and how does this tie in?

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<v Speaker 3>Because they're going to be staying at the Scurving Hotel

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<v Speaker 3>in Oklahoma City. Some of you may have heard stories

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<v Speaker 3>about the Scurving already because there's been some NBA players

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<v Speaker 3>that have stayed there that have claimed that there's ghosts

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<v Speaker 3>and it's kept them from playing as well as they

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<v Speaker 3>should have, or even some of them hadn't even spent

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<v Speaker 3>the night when this story has got brought up months ago. Initially,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Shannon was telling his beliefs the ghost, and

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<v Speaker 3>of course Matt was saying, there's no such thing as ghost.

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<v Speaker 3>If we ever get a chance to go out that way,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to stay there. Well, and behold. When they

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<v Speaker 3>scheduled this trip, they're going to be staying there. So

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it would be kind of cool, since this

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<v Speaker 3>is our neck of the woods, to go ahead and

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<v Speaker 3>do some background and tell some stories. So when they're

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<v Speaker 3>in the vehicle, if they don't listen to it before,

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<v Speaker 3>now sometime before they get there, they can actually listen

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<v Speaker 3>to this. And here's some of the background on the hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, I don't know if.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm envious or scared for them, but it is very

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<v Speaker 2>exciting and I hope we get some good stories.

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<v Speaker 3>From there, all right. So here's what we got the hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>I always like to give background. The hotel came about

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<v Speaker 3>and was built in nineteen eleven by W. B. Scurvin.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he got his money from he was common oil tycoon,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's how he got his money. He wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>build the nicest hotel in the Southwest, so Oklahoma City

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<v Speaker 3>is where he built it. Of course, he named it

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<v Speaker 3>after himself and his daughter, Pearl Mesta. She actually became

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<v Speaker 3>the ambassador to Luxembourg under Harry Truman, and it kind

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<v Speaker 3>of brought some more attention to the hotel. So now

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<v Speaker 3>it was kind of like the place to stay. The

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<v Speaker 3>hotel itself actually stayed and did through some renovations and

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of changes, but it stayed open until nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>seventy nine when it officially closed down. Now it was

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<v Speaker 3>on the state's history, you know, of national monuments and

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<v Speaker 3>what have you, So the governor there and the Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 3>City mayor, Kirk Humphreys kind of wanted to do something

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<v Speaker 3>to get it up and going again so it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>just set because it basically set for twenty years just

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<v Speaker 3>with vacant, nothing going on, nothing years nothing. So in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and seven, Hilton decided to buy it and

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<v Speaker 3>they did some renovations. So they kind of they just

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<v Speaker 3>did redid the outside and they made sure that the rooms,

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<v Speaker 3>the windows and the rooms were kind of like the

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<v Speaker 3>authentic windows, and they and they changed some of the

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<v Speaker 3>elevators and stuff to make it a little more modern.

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<v Speaker 3>But from that point on, uh in two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 3>it was reopened for business. So that's that's the that's

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<v Speaker 3>the background on the hotel itself. But what about the haunting,

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<v Speaker 3>That's why everybody's here. Where did this come about? It

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<v Speaker 3>all basically started supposedly back when when Bill Skurvin first

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<v Speaker 3>had the place open. This was kind of a during prohibition,

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<v Speaker 3>back in the twenties. This was kind of a speakeasy.

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<v Speaker 3>So a lot of people came here to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>drink and what have you, even though it was illegally done.

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<v Speaker 3>They would go up to the tenth floor and the

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<v Speaker 3>tenth floor. He was known for drinking. It was known

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<v Speaker 3>for prostitution, It was known for gambling. There was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of poker games and stuff like that that went on.

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<v Speaker 3>So fun times, yeah, fun times. So at some point

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<v Speaker 3>in time during this prohibition, William Scurvey, Bill Scurvy, Scurvey

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<v Speaker 3>and I should say, had an affair with a maid there.

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<v Speaker 3>And nobody really knows her name, but since all the

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<v Speaker 3>ghost sightings and stuff through the years, the people who

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<v Speaker 3>worked there have nicknamed her Effie. Effie. That's interesting now,

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<v Speaker 3>if you listen to the stories about Effie, she supposedly

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of a loose morals woman or some people

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<v Speaker 3>call her a whore. Oh that's what I call her.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>But so that was kind of the deal. Now, he

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<v Speaker 3>supposedly got her knocked up and he didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>cause any shame on himself, and he didn't wantny kind

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<v Speaker 3>of scandals because obviously this guy had a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>money in order to flank hotel, so he locked her

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<v Speaker 3>up on the tenth floor, like locked her up, like

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<v Speaker 3>she couldn't leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>So she has this baby eventually, and she still wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to leave. Man, that's terrible. And somewhere during the

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<v Speaker 3>course of time, she became I guess, kind of half

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<v Speaker 3>out of her mind from being locked in there for

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<v Speaker 3>so long. Yeah, and she jumped with the baby from

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>That's terrible. So that's the legend of how the ghost

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<v Speaker 3>came about. Now we mentioned that she was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>let's say, loose, so to speak, and where that ties

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<v Speaker 3>in is some of these stories about the ghost itself

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<v Speaker 3>because some of the guys that had been in there,

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<v Speaker 3>they claim that they hear a woman's voice kind of

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<v Speaker 3>seducing them in the room. Oh cool. And then others

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<v Speaker 3>have actually said that they've seen a naked woman in

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<v Speaker 3>the shower with them while they're taking a shower in

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<v Speaker 3>the shower, in the shower, like they're in the shower

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<v Speaker 3>and they looking there's a naked woman in the shower.

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<v Speaker 3>With them day and then one one my man and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what your this was, but he even

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<v Speaker 3>said he was sexually assaulted.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not get at what is up with these

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<v Speaker 2>ghosts having sex with other like live humans?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe this was Bobby Brown, because you know he said

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<v Speaker 3>that happened, but maybe that happened here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's just so bizarre. I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how can you Well, I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>what to say because I don't know how you have

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<v Speaker 2>sex with the ghosts and can tell you're having sex

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<v Speaker 2>with the ghosts.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that make sense? Yeah, it wouldn't be much different

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<v Speaker 3>than some of the girls I've been with.

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<v Speaker 2>You did not put that out there, but so so

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<v Speaker 2>what you got.

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<v Speaker 3>Is you've got a ghost that that makes sexual suggestions

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<v Speaker 3>to men, appears naked in their shower, and sometimes sexually

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<v Speaker 3>assaults men. So that only leads to really one question, Matt,

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<v Speaker 3>do you have any more room on your trip for

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<v Speaker 3>I will pay for my own room, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But then, so, if they're having sex with a ghost,

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<v Speaker 3>so let's go back a little bit about the hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>He also wrote a book about the hotel, and he

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<v Speaker 3>said that Skirvin was actually he was a notorious womanizer

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<v Speaker 3>all those vices and what have you, So it really

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be that far fetched. But there is no real

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<v Speaker 3>proof that this woman committed suicide. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>just all swept underneath the rug, so there wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>any record of it. If you talk to his family,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't know anything about an f e or what person.

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<v Speaker 3>They seem to think that he had an affair with

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<v Speaker 3>an assistant bookkeeper named Mabel Loody, but she actually outlived him,

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<v Speaker 3>so that would be that story, but who knows. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>far as some of the hauntings up there, you've got

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<v Speaker 3>the New York Knicks, and I think this was back

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty ten. Was actually kind of funny. They swore

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<v Speaker 3>that the ghosts and the hotels would cost them to

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<v Speaker 3>lose the game because they played so bad the very

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<v Speaker 3>next day because they didn't get any sleep. So that

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of the first thing because and keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 3>the Oklahoma City Thunder play here, and this is like

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<v Speaker 3>the nicest hotel. So when these NBA players come to town,

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<v Speaker 3>this is kind of the hotel of choice to go

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<v Speaker 3>to because it's the only really nice hotel in town.

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<v Speaker 3>And these guys are millionaires, so that's the place to go.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was the first case in the New York

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<v Speaker 3>Knicks back in twenty ten. You also had a situation

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<v Speaker 3>around the same time in the Chicago Bulls. Some of

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<v Speaker 3>their players reported door slamming shut on their own and

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<v Speaker 3>strange sounds outside their rooms. It got national tension in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twelve when some of the my Amy Heat players

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<v Speaker 3>were saying the same things, slamming doors, noises outside of

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<v Speaker 3>the doors. And then last year Nick Young from the Lakers,

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<v Speaker 3>he actually stayed there and was had all kinds of complaints.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Kyrie Irvin said that he got bedbugs there.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think that's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, did any of those guys, though, actually see the ghost.

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<v Speaker 3>Or just they just heard a bunch of says No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a bunch of bunch of hear and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>and then hearsay. But a lot of these guys don't

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<v Speaker 3>stay through the night. They ended up leaving before it

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<v Speaker 3>biggest ones and a lot of people may not realize this.

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<v Speaker 3>The Baylor women's basketball team, I mean remember a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years ago, they had Britney Grider and they won

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<v Speaker 3>the national championship. In the very next year, they were

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<v Speaker 3>the favorites to win it all. Yeah, they actually stayed

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<v Speaker 3>there because their game was an Oklahoma the semifinal game.

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<v Speaker 3>They stayed there and then the next day they were

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<v Speaker 3>beaten by Louisville Cardinals in one of the biggest upsets

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<v Speaker 3>in tournament history. Oh my gosh. So, I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>So some's gotta be Yeah, something's up with that, that's

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>So I tried to talk to some I try to

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<v Speaker 3>reach out to the guy that wrote the book Lackmire.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't respond back, and then I try to reach

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<v Speaker 3>some of the paranormal societies in Oklahoma City to see

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<v Speaker 3>who had done some research. And unfortunately for the time

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<v Speaker 3>that I reached out at the time we needed to

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<v Speaker 3>do this. Yeah, I didn't get back with anybody. I

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<v Speaker 3>do have some first hand accounts. On some reader comments.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy here said the city of Oklahoma City just

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<v Speaker 3>needs to abandon the Scurving hotel project altogether. Said I've

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<v Speaker 3>been inside before the renovation started in September two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and four. You could see objects moving with no one

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<v Speaker 3>else around to be moving them, crying and screaming of

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<v Speaker 3>a woman. I just don't think it's a good idea

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<v Speaker 3>to be messing around with that place. That's from Sam

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<v Speaker 3>in October two thousand and five. Tina in two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and four said, I've actually been in there, and it

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<v Speaker 3>really is haunted. You can see the woman standing in

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<v Speaker 3>the window. She jumped doubt of when you see her,

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<v Speaker 3>she's at first in and real far away, and then

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<v Speaker 3>she runs up to the window and then just stops.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess it's going to be up to the

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<v Speaker 3>boys to see if they experience anything when they're up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. I surely hope you guys do experience

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<v Speaker 2>something and if nothing else, make a believer out of Matt.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think Matt's gonna believe. I think I think

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<v Speaker 3>Matt could have this girl actually come out sexually assaulting.

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<v Speaker 3>He could be able to see completely through her, and

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<v Speaker 3>he'll swear to God it was a dream or something that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Hey, whatever takes, Matt's entitled to his beliefs,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. You know a lot of people I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>have seen things like that and still in their minds

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<v Speaker 2>are saying, well, yeah, I mean, that wasn't even there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just you know, And I'm sure after hearing about

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<v Speaker 3>the ghost sexually assaulting people, Ryan's wife will probably not

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I tell you, guys, we love you guys so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you the enjoyment we get out of

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<v Speaker 2>listening to you every day. I Mean I'm usually busting

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<v Speaker 2>a gut driving in the car listening to you guys

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<v Speaker 2>or something. You guys are just awesome, and we do

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<v Speaker 2>hope you guys kind of see something that's going on

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<v Speaker 2>down there and let us know what you did see,

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<v Speaker 2>if anything or here, and just you know, most of all,

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<v Speaker 2>have a safe trip, and you guys just have a

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<v Speaker 2>great time. I know you all always do when you

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<v Speaker 2>go on these road trips.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, especially since Drew was just in a car

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<v Speaker 3>accident totally the car a couple days ago. Yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, Drew.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you're okay, honey.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, you guys, honestly, like I said, we

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<v Speaker 3>hope that we can give you a little bit of enjoyment.

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<v Speaker 3>You're getting us so much enjoyment over the years. We

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<v Speaker 3>moved to the Virgin Island a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and your podcasts every day was the only way we

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<v Speaker 3>really had of keeping up with Kentucky sports, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was the one thing that kind of reminded us of

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<v Speaker 3>being back home. And it was kind of cool because

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<v Speaker 3>it was during the stretch of the Twins leading us

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<v Speaker 3>to the other final four, and we watched the win

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<v Speaker 3>over Michigan and the win over Louisville and the went

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<v Speaker 3>over which a toss state. We were all sitting in

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<v Speaker 3>our room yelling and screaming, while these Virgin Islanders around us,

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<v Speaker 3>thinking what the hell are these people yelling and screaming

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<v Speaker 3>about it? Nine and ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>We had to edumate them for sure about the Cats,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>So thank you guys so much, and we appreciate y'all

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<v Speaker 3>listening to a little special episode, and like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>join us again this Sunday, we're gonna come out with

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<v Speaker 3>the true story of the Amityville Horror. Like we said

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<v Speaker 3>on the last show, it's not gonna be so much

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<v Speaker 3>about what the movie is made of. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>about Ronald de Fayo and the shootings that happened before

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<v Speaker 3>all that stuff happened, and there's some freaky stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>went on. You guys, I think we'll really find this

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<v Speaker 3>exciting and you'll I guarantee you'll hear some stuff you've

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you guys, make sure y'all turned into KSR every.

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<v Speaker 3>Morning twelve And if you can't listen to the podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>just look up KSR on iTunes or whatever whatever Android

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<v Speaker 3>device you used to the podcasts. I promise you you

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<v Speaker 3>do not have to be a Kentucky fan to like

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<v Speaker 3>this show. They probably spend four minutes a day on

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky Sports and the other hour and twenty minutes just

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<v Speaker 3>making you laugh, so I promise you. And we got

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<v Speaker 3>listeners all around the world, no matter where you're listening

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<v Speaker 3>in Australia, Great Britain, uh India. We got one in

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<v Speaker 3>Cambodia the other day. You guys, tune in and listen

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<v Speaker 3>and uh, they can really use the cube.

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<v Speaker 2>You will be disappointed.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you guys, and then we'll talk to you on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, y'all, they would like to thank you folks

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<v Speaker 3>for kind of dropping in. We're all invited back next

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<v Speaker 3>week for this locality to have a heaping helping on

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<v Speaker 3>their hospitality. You'll believe that is. I'll come back now

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<v Speaker 3>here