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Speaker 3: Tracy. It's been another one of those weeks where we've
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Speaker 3: Right, everybody, That song right there is music to my ear?
Speaker 3: Why because that is the intro music to KSR Radio,
Speaker 3: my favorite show for the last almost six years. I
Speaker 3: can honestly say I have never been as entertained by
Speaker 3: radio show as what I have. That one. It was
Speaker 3: the very first podcast I ever listened to, and it's
Speaker 3: actually one of the inspirations to how we do our show.
Speaker 3: They mix a little bit of everything in their personal
Speaker 3: life along with sports. It's UK basketball, football sports themed,
Speaker 3: but they talk about their life, they talk about car recks,
Speaker 3: they talk about ghosts and what have you. And it's,
Speaker 3: like I said, for the last six years, it's been
Speaker 3: my all time favorite show. Matt Jones actually was a
Speaker 3: previous attorney, decided to get into radio broadcasting. I'm exciting
Speaker 3: that he did. And now he's got a good group
Speaker 3: with Ryan Lemon, Shannon the Dude, and Drew Franklin helping
Speaker 3: out with the show. And like I said, anybody who
Speaker 3: is in this area of the Kentucky area, they probably
Speaker 3: know the show. It is the most listened to radio
Speaker 3: show in the state and for a lot of people,
Speaker 3: it's actually one of the biggest streaming shows in the country.
Speaker 3: So if you go to iTunes, look up KSR and
Speaker 3: give them a listen, I promise you you will not
Speaker 3: be disappointed.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely true. I love to listen to it. As
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, the doctor I work for right
Speaker 2: now has got the sort of an internet radio thing
Speaker 2: going on, but he mentioned that we could get podcasts now,
Speaker 2: so I was really excited. So I'm gonna maybe see
Speaker 2: if he can let us listen to Matt and them
Speaker 2: while we're at work, and hopefully he'll say.
Speaker 3: Yes, that would be great. And the reason that all
Speaker 3: this is coming about. I know people are saying, why
Speaker 3: are you doing a podcast on Wednesday night? We usually
Speaker 3: only released these things on Sunday, and we're still going
Speaker 3: to be doing our one on Sunday. But let me
Speaker 3: take a little history of this show and what brought
Speaker 3: this about. Matt, if you listen to the show on
Speaker 3: a regular basis, is adamant that there is no such
Speaker 3: thing as ghosts. True, they don't exist, and pretty much
Speaker 3: we'll say you're an idiot if you believe that they
Speaker 3: do exist. Shannon, on the other hand, is a big believer.
Speaker 3: There's definitely ghost He said, got a picture taken from Waverley,
Speaker 3: which we did a show on already, and it's got
Speaker 3: a picture of a ghost. He sent it around and
Speaker 3: got everybody's opinion on Twitter, and a lot of people said, oh,
Speaker 3: I see exactly what you're talking about. Of course, Matt
Speaker 3: he completely disagreed, and then you see what you want
Speaker 3: to see. And what they're doing is that there's a
Speaker 3: big Kentucky North Carolina basketball game in Vegas next Saturday.
Speaker 3: And what KSR the group has decided to do is
Speaker 3: they're going to take a trip to Vegas. They're gonna
Speaker 3: take a week long and in the car and just driving.
Speaker 3: They're going to stop a bunch of places along the way,
Speaker 3: like Memphis and what have you. One of the places
Speaker 3: they're going to stop is Oklahoma City. Now, why is
Speaker 3: this a big deal and how does this tie in?
Speaker 3: Because they're going to be staying at the Scurving Hotel
Speaker 3: in Oklahoma City. Some of you may have heard stories
Speaker 3: about the Scurving already because there's been some NBA players
Speaker 3: that have stayed there that have claimed that there's ghosts
Speaker 3: and it's kept them from playing as well as they
Speaker 3: should have, or even some of them hadn't even spent
Speaker 3: the night when this story has got brought up months ago. Initially,
Speaker 3: you know, Shannon was telling his beliefs the ghost, and
Speaker 3: of course Matt was saying, there's no such thing as ghost.
Speaker 3: If we ever get a chance to go out that way,
Speaker 3: we're going to stay there. Well, and behold. When they
Speaker 3: scheduled this trip, they're going to be staying there. So
Speaker 3: I thought it would be kind of cool, since this
Speaker 3: is our neck of the woods, to go ahead and
Speaker 3: do some background and tell some stories. So when they're
Speaker 3: in the vehicle, if they don't listen to it before,
Speaker 3: now sometime before they get there, they can actually listen
Speaker 3: to this. And here's some of the background on the hotel.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I don't know if.
Speaker 2: I'm envious or scared for them, but it is very
Speaker 2: exciting and I hope we get some good stories.
Speaker 3: From there, all right. So here's what we got the hotel.
Speaker 3: I always like to give background. The hotel came about
Speaker 3: and was built in nineteen eleven by W. B. Scurvin.
Speaker 3: Now he got his money from he was common oil tycoon,
Speaker 3: so that's how he got his money. He wanted to
Speaker 3: build the nicest hotel in the Southwest, so Oklahoma City
Speaker 3: is where he built it. Of course, he named it
Speaker 3: after himself and his daughter, Pearl Mesta. She actually became
Speaker 3: the ambassador to Luxembourg under Harry Truman, and it kind
Speaker 3: of brought some more attention to the hotel. So now
Speaker 3: it was kind of like the place to stay. The
Speaker 3: hotel itself actually stayed and did through some renovations and
Speaker 3: a bunch of changes, but it stayed open until nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy nine when it officially closed down. Now it was
Speaker 3: on the state's history, you know, of national monuments and
Speaker 3: what have you, So the governor there and the Oklahoma
Speaker 3: City mayor, Kirk Humphreys kind of wanted to do something
Speaker 3: to get it up and going again so it wouldn't
Speaker 3: just set because it basically set for twenty years just
Speaker 3: with vacant, nothing going on, nothing years nothing. So in
Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, Hilton decided to buy it and
Speaker 3: they did some renovations. So they kind of they just
Speaker 3: did redid the outside and they made sure that the rooms,
Speaker 3: the windows and the rooms were kind of like the
Speaker 3: authentic windows, and they and they changed some of the
Speaker 3: elevators and stuff to make it a little more modern.
Speaker 3: But from that point on, uh in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 3: it was reopened for business. So that's that's the that's
Speaker 3: the background on the hotel itself. But what about the haunting,
Speaker 3: That's why everybody's here. Where did this come about? It
Speaker 3: all basically started supposedly back when when Bill Skurvin first
Speaker 3: had the place open. This was kind of a during prohibition,
Speaker 3: back in the twenties. This was kind of a speakeasy.
Speaker 3: So a lot of people came here to kind of
Speaker 3: drink and what have you, even though it was illegally done.
Speaker 3: They would go up to the tenth floor and the
Speaker 3: tenth floor. He was known for drinking. It was known
Speaker 3: for prostitution, It was known for gambling. There was a
Speaker 3: lot of poker games and stuff like that that went on.
Speaker 3: So fun times, yeah, fun times. So at some point
Speaker 3: in time during this prohibition, William Scurvey, Bill Scurvy, Scurvey
Speaker 3: and I should say, had an affair with a maid there.
Speaker 3: And nobody really knows her name, but since all the
Speaker 3: ghost sightings and stuff through the years, the people who
Speaker 3: worked there have nicknamed her Effie. Effie. That's interesting now,
Speaker 3: if you listen to the stories about Effie, she supposedly
Speaker 3: was kind of a loose morals woman or some people
Speaker 3: call her a whore. Oh that's what I call her.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: But so that was kind of the deal. Now, he
Speaker 3: supposedly got her knocked up and he didn't want to
Speaker 3: cause any shame on himself, and he didn't wantny kind
Speaker 3: of scandals because obviously this guy had a lot of
Speaker 3: money in order to flank hotel, so he locked her
Speaker 3: up on the tenth floor, like locked her up, like
Speaker 3: she couldn't leave.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: So she has this baby eventually, and she still wasn't
Speaker 3: allowed to leave. Man, that's terrible. And somewhere during the
Speaker 3: course of time, she became I guess, kind of half
Speaker 3: out of her mind from being locked in there for
Speaker 3: so long. Yeah, and she jumped with the baby from
Speaker 3: the tenth floor window and killed herself.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: That's terrible. So that's the legend of how the ghost
Speaker 3: came about. Now we mentioned that she was kind of
Speaker 3: let's say, loose, so to speak, and where that ties
Speaker 3: in is some of these stories about the ghost itself
Speaker 3: because some of the guys that had been in there,
Speaker 3: they claim that they hear a woman's voice kind of
Speaker 3: seducing them in the room. Oh cool. And then others
Speaker 3: have actually said that they've seen a naked woman in
Speaker 3: the shower with them while they're taking a shower in
Speaker 3: the shower, in the shower, like they're in the shower
Speaker 3: and they looking there's a naked woman in the shower.
Speaker 3: With them day and then one one my man and
Speaker 3: I don't know what your this was, but he even
Speaker 3: said he was sexually assaulted.
Speaker 2: I did not get at what is up with these
Speaker 2: ghosts having sex with other like live humans?
Speaker 3: Maybe this was Bobby Brown, because you know he said
Speaker 3: that happened, but maybe that happened here.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's just so bizarre. I can't even
Speaker 2: I mean, how can you Well, I don't even know
Speaker 2: what to say because I don't know how you have
Speaker 2: sex with the ghosts and can tell you're having sex
Speaker 2: with the ghosts.
Speaker 3: Does that make sense? Yeah, it wouldn't be much different
Speaker 3: than some of the girls I've been with.
Speaker 2: You did not put that out there, but so so
Speaker 2: what you got.
Speaker 3: Is you've got a ghost that that makes sexual suggestions
Speaker 3: to men, appears naked in their shower, and sometimes sexually
Speaker 3: assaults men. So that only leads to really one question, Matt,
Speaker 3: do you have any more room on your trip for
Speaker 3: one more person you want to go to?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 3: I will pay for my own room, okay.
Speaker 2: But then, so, if they're having sex with a ghost,
Speaker 2: are they considered a cheater?
Speaker 3: It's not cheating when I use my hand, That's true. Anyways,
Speaker 3: so let's go back a little bit about the hotel.
Speaker 3: There's a reporter that works for the Oklahoma named Steve Blackmire.
Speaker 3: He also wrote a book about the hotel, and he
Speaker 3: said that Skirvin was actually he was a notorious womanizer
Speaker 3: and a drinker, and the tenth floor was known for
Speaker 3: all those vices and what have you, So it really
Speaker 3: wouldn't be that far fetched. But there is no real
Speaker 3: proof that this woman committed suicide. It was kind of
Speaker 3: just all swept underneath the rug, so there wouldn't be
Speaker 3: any record of it. If you talk to his family,
Speaker 3: they don't know anything about an f e or what person.
Speaker 3: They seem to think that he had an affair with
Speaker 3: an assistant bookkeeper named Mabel Loody, but she actually outlived him,
Speaker 3: so that would be that story, but who knows. Now,
Speaker 3: let's talk about some of the cool stuff now, as
Speaker 3: far as some of the hauntings up there, you've got
Speaker 3: the New York Knicks, and I think this was back
Speaker 3: in twenty ten. Was actually kind of funny. They swore
Speaker 3: that the ghosts and the hotels would cost them to
Speaker 3: lose the game because they played so bad the very
Speaker 3: next day because they didn't get any sleep. So that
Speaker 3: was kind of the first thing because and keep in mind,
Speaker 3: the Oklahoma City Thunder play here, and this is like
Speaker 3: the nicest hotel. So when these NBA players come to town,
Speaker 3: this is kind of the hotel of choice to go
Speaker 3: to because it's the only really nice hotel in town.
Speaker 3: And these guys are millionaires, so that's the place to go.
Speaker 3: But that was the first case in the New York
Speaker 3: Knicks back in twenty ten. You also had a situation
Speaker 3: around the same time in the Chicago Bulls. Some of
Speaker 3: their players reported door slamming shut on their own and
Speaker 3: strange sounds outside their rooms. It got national tension in
Speaker 3: twenty twelve when some of the my Amy Heat players
Speaker 3: were saying the same things, slamming doors, noises outside of
Speaker 3: the doors. And then last year Nick Young from the Lakers,
Speaker 3: he actually stayed there and was had all kinds of complaints.
Speaker 3: And then Kyrie Irvin said that he got bedbugs there.
Speaker 3: But I don't think that's the same thing.
Speaker 2: Well, did any of those guys, though, actually see the ghost.
Speaker 3: Or just they just heard a bunch of says No,
Speaker 3: it's just a bunch of bunch of hear and stuff
Speaker 3: and then hearsay. But a lot of these guys don't
Speaker 3: stay through the night. They ended up leaving before it
Speaker 3: said and done. And this is actually one of the
Speaker 3: biggest ones and a lot of people may not realize this.
Speaker 3: The Baylor women's basketball team, I mean remember a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago, they had Britney Grider and they won
Speaker 3: the national championship. In the very next year, they were
Speaker 3: the favorites to win it all. Yeah, they actually stayed
Speaker 3: there because their game was an Oklahoma the semifinal game.
Speaker 3: They stayed there and then the next day they were
Speaker 3: beaten by Louisville Cardinals in one of the biggest upsets
Speaker 3: in tournament history. Oh my gosh. So, I mean you
Speaker 3: talking about horror stories. Anytime that you get beat by
Speaker 3: louis that's a horror story. Oh, that's right.
Speaker 2: So some's gotta be Yeah, something's up with that, that's
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: So I tried to talk to some I try to
Speaker 3: reach out to the guy that wrote the book Lackmire.
Speaker 3: He didn't respond back, and then I try to reach
Speaker 3: some of the paranormal societies in Oklahoma City to see
Speaker 3: who had done some research. And unfortunately for the time
Speaker 3: that I reached out at the time we needed to
Speaker 3: do this. Yeah, I didn't get back with anybody. I
Speaker 3: do have some first hand accounts. On some reader comments.
Speaker 3: This guy here said the city of Oklahoma City just
Speaker 3: needs to abandon the Scurving hotel project altogether. Said I've
Speaker 3: been inside before the renovation started in September two thousand
Speaker 3: and four. You could see objects moving with no one
Speaker 3: else around to be moving them, crying and screaming of
Speaker 3: a woman. I just don't think it's a good idea
Speaker 3: to be messing around with that place. That's from Sam
Speaker 3: in October two thousand and five. Tina in two thousand
Speaker 3: and four said, I've actually been in there, and it
Speaker 3: really is haunted. You can see the woman standing in
Speaker 3: the window. She jumped doubt of when you see her,
Speaker 3: she's at first in and real far away, and then
Speaker 3: she runs up to the window and then just stops.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So I guess it's going to be up to the
Speaker 3: boys to see if they experience anything when they're up there.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I surely hope you guys do experience
Speaker 2: something and if nothing else, make a believer out of Matt.
Speaker 3: I don't think Matt's gonna believe. I think I think
Speaker 3: Matt could have this girl actually come out sexually assaulting.
Speaker 3: He could be able to see completely through her, and
Speaker 3: he'll swear to God it was a dream or something that.
Speaker 2: You know, Hey, whatever takes, Matt's entitled to his beliefs,
Speaker 2: for sure. You know a lot of people I'm sure
Speaker 2: have seen things like that and still in their minds
Speaker 2: are saying, well, yeah, I mean, that wasn't even there.
Speaker 3: It's just you know, And I'm sure after hearing about
Speaker 3: the ghost sexually assaulting people, Ryan's wife will probably not
Speaker 3: allow him to go on the trip.
Speaker 2: Now, I tell you, guys, we love you guys so much.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you the enjoyment we get out of
Speaker 2: listening to you every day. I Mean I'm usually busting
Speaker 2: a gut driving in the car listening to you guys
Speaker 2: or something. You guys are just awesome, and we do
Speaker 2: hope you guys kind of see something that's going on
Speaker 2: down there and let us know what you did see,
Speaker 2: if anything or here, and just you know, most of all,
Speaker 2: have a safe trip, and you guys just have a
Speaker 2: great time. I know you all always do when you
Speaker 2: go on these road trips.
Speaker 3: So yeah, especially since Drew was just in a car
Speaker 3: accident totally the car a couple days ago. Yeah, so,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, Drew.
Speaker 2: I hope you're okay, honey.
Speaker 3: But you know, you guys, honestly, like I said, we
Speaker 3: hope that we can give you a little bit of enjoyment.
Speaker 3: You're getting us so much enjoyment over the years. We
Speaker 3: moved to the Virgin Island a couple of years ago,
Speaker 3: and your podcasts every day was the only way we
Speaker 3: really had of keeping up with Kentucky sports, and it
Speaker 3: was the one thing that kind of reminded us of
Speaker 3: being back home. And it was kind of cool because
Speaker 3: it was during the stretch of the Twins leading us
Speaker 3: to the other final four, and we watched the win
Speaker 3: over Michigan and the win over Louisville and the went
Speaker 3: over which a toss state. We were all sitting in
Speaker 3: our room yelling and screaming, while these Virgin Islanders around us,
Speaker 3: thinking what the hell are these people yelling and screaming
Speaker 3: about it? Nine and ten o'clock.
Speaker 2: We had to edumate them for sure about the Cats,
Speaker 2: no doubt.
Speaker 3: So thank you guys so much, and we appreciate y'all
Speaker 3: listening to a little special episode, and like I said,
Speaker 3: join us again this Sunday, we're gonna come out with
Speaker 3: the true story of the Amityville Horror. Like we said
Speaker 3: on the last show, it's not gonna be so much
Speaker 3: about what the movie is made of. It's gonna be
Speaker 3: about Ronald de Fayo and the shootings that happened before
Speaker 3: all that stuff happened, and there's some freaky stuff that
Speaker 3: went on. You guys, I think we'll really find this
Speaker 3: exciting and you'll I guarantee you'll hear some stuff you've
Speaker 3: never heard before.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you guys, make sure y'all turned into KSR every.
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Speaker 2: You will be disappointed.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys, and then we'll talk to you on Sunday.
Speaker 3: All right, y'all, they would like to thank you folks
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