1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,600 go to dpeakclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button, get every episode for free, write to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,240 your support. Pope Francis died on Easter Monday, April twenty 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,200 first today at the age of eighty eight, at his 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,479 residence in the Vaticans Casa Santa Marta. And I read 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,799 a piece over at RedState dot com by Bill Cruse. 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,000 He writes, under the nom diphum of strife, is it Bill? 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,240 Is it? Is it pronounced strife or is it like stream? Okay, good, 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,000 because otherwise I've been saying it wrong for like ten years. 16 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:56,479 And well, welcome to the show, and my apologies. I 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,640 figured I would have had you on at some point, 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,399 but I am glad that our mute friend Stacy said hey, 19 00:01:01,399 --> 00:01:03,200 you should have this guy on, and I'm like, yeah, 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,920 I really should, because I thought I really did, but 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,319 I hadn't. So welcome to the show, sir. I appreciate it, 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,799 and I've read your work for LAWI. 23 00:01:08,599 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: It's great to be here, Pete. And you have some 24 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,799 of the best bumper music out there. I think nice. 25 00:01:12,879 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: I always love the I always love the Well that's 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,319 really the producers that do that. But but I'll take 27 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,640 the compliment too. Why not? All right, so let's talk 28 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,120 a little bit about Pope Francis. He was born Jorge 29 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,359 Mario Burgoglia Burgoglio Burgoglio. Anyway, I think is how he 30 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,719 pronounces that. But so what was so unique about him? 31 00:01:34,719 --> 00:01:37,400 Tell us sort of like his his bio and his rise. 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: Well, you know, he's like I mean, obviously he's real 33 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:47,319 claim to famous. He is the pope, first pope from 34 00:01:47,359 --> 00:01:51,200 the Americas, and probably I think he's the first pope 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,640 from like outside of Italy in several hundred years. So 36 00:01:54,959 --> 00:02:00,680 that way, he's a standout. I don't know a lot. 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:08,120 I mean what I think his tenure as Archbishop of 38 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:14,719 Buenos Aires is is a big cloudy. There's a lot 39 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:23,439 we don't know about everything that happened there. So, but anyway, 40 00:02:23,759 --> 00:02:27,759 he was sort of picked to be the I think 41 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,919 the answer to two fairly doctored air popes, John Paul 42 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,159 the second, and then in the sixteenth and obviously he 43 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:44,319 came in trying to add an openness, and I think 44 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,680 he always referred to it as he wanted to be 45 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,840 more of a more He wanted a more pastoral church, 46 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,159 one that was more open to all kinds of people. 47 00:02:57,439 --> 00:03:00,159 Speaker 1: And he was the first Jesuit, right, which is. 48 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:04,319 Speaker 2: An order first first Jesuit, and I think it's probably 49 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:06,319 safe to say maybe the last one. Right. 50 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's funny you said, because when he was named, 51 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,840 I know a lot of Catholics who were kind of 52 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:17,960 worried about putting a Jesuit into the papacy. Why is it? 53 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: I mean, well, what again, this is you're dealing with 54 00:03:21,319 --> 00:03:25,759 the anequal one. This is Bill Cruise's perspective on that. 55 00:03:26,439 --> 00:03:36,240 I think that where in the sixteen, seventeenth, eighteenth century 56 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:40,960 a Jesuit going into TV pope would have been very 57 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,479 controversial for a different reason that they are much too worldly. 58 00:03:45,599 --> 00:03:50,919 It's more interested in politics, you know, that type of thing. 59 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,240 I think that the real fear that I think it 60 00:03:54,400 --> 00:04:01,360 played out it was justified, was that the the Jesuits, 61 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:08,719 since the nineteen sixties had been heavily associated with leftist activities. 62 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:16,959 Political activities, they've been heavily associated with liberation theology. Most 63 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:24,000 of the brushfire wars going on in Central America in 64 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:29,480 the eighties, you know where there's El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua, 65 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:36,959 all had a non trivial number of Jesuits involved on 66 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:43,839 the side of the communist guerrillas. And also the Jesuits 67 00:04:43,879 --> 00:04:46,680 sort of became, I mean, a lot of their more 68 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:53,839 prominent voices in the media really were pushing things contrary 69 00:04:54,319 --> 00:05:02,439 to the Catholic Catechism in terms of normalizing homosexuality, accepting 70 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:08,319 homosexual marriages. They bought it heavily to the transgenderism. And 71 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,839 so there's a whole lot of baggage coming in with 72 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,079 Francis as a Jesuit that you may have resulted in 73 00:05:16,199 --> 00:05:20,240 him not quite getting a fair shake. And maybe uh, 74 00:05:21,439 --> 00:05:24,759 the worst inferences were drawn from some things he did 75 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,639 because it was all looked at through the lens that 76 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,199 we're dealing with a Jesuit. 77 00:05:29,439 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: Right when, right when, you've got that kind of baggage 78 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,519 just because he is of that order, he comes in 79 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,279 with certain expectations that people are ard yes. 80 00:05:38,519 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: Yes, and and another pope could probably may have been 81 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:47,160 able to do some of the similar things without the uh, 82 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,839 without the internal drama. But the fact is that because 83 00:05:53,879 --> 00:05:56,759 he was a Jesuit, a lot of his actions were 84 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,759 colored by by that fact. 85 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then of course he did stuff which would 86 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:05,319 also and then he did stuff that would then lead 87 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,360 people to like, oh see, my fears were confirmed. You 88 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:12,399 mentioned in your piece about environmental policy the role of 89 00:06:12,399 --> 00:06:15,439 women in the church that the people had thought had 90 00:06:15,439 --> 00:06:18,399 been settled before there was all of the immigration stuff 91 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,240 and that debate death penalty stuff. You also mentioned. I 92 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,519 have not heard anything about this. The Vatican's finances. You 93 00:06:25,519 --> 00:06:29,160 say he never brought the vaticanst finances under control. What 94 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:29,800 does that mean? 95 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the Vatican Bank has been sort of 96 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,959 a festering sump of corruption for quite a while. I mean, 97 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,519 this is the bank that managed to lose one hundreds 98 00:06:41,519 --> 00:06:45,439 of millions of dollars on investing in prime real estate 99 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:48,160 in London. I don't really know how you managed to 100 00:06:48,199 --> 00:06:50,519 do that. I mean, I think me and my wife 101 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,759 could have pulled it off and made some money on it. 102 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:58,480 But it just goes back to a lot of things 103 00:06:58,519 --> 00:07:00,759 you could go back to I try to remember that 104 00:07:01,319 --> 00:07:07,040 the person who was allegedly committed suicide by hanging himself 105 00:07:07,079 --> 00:07:11,199 under Blackfriars Bridge in London was associated with the Vatican Bank. 106 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,319 But this has been going on for a while. And 107 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,519 one of the things that happened was that he bought 108 00:07:16,519 --> 00:07:20,560 in a very very good man, Cardinal Pell, from Australia. 109 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:25,920 And suddenly when Pell, once again, this is my perspective, 110 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,720 this is not helped by court records or anything, when 111 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:36,319 Pell apparently was getting close to closing down some of 112 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:42,000 the corruptions, suddenly allegations surfaced with Pell that got him 113 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,600 brought back to Australia actually, you know, sentenced to prison 114 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,319 for sexual abuse until he was name was finally cleared, 115 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:53,319 if indeed your name could ever be cleared after that. 116 00:07:54,759 --> 00:07:59,680 Then there was some interesting stories of money flowing out 117 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:05,240 the Vatican to organizations in Australia that were pushing the 118 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:10,240 narrative that Tell had sexually abused members of a choir. 119 00:08:10,399 --> 00:08:13,600 I think it was something like thirty years ago, forty 120 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,279 years ago, and so you have all all this stuff 121 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:22,360 going on, and it's there was also a lot of 122 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:28,319 suspicion that one of the reasons that Benedict sixteenth resigned 123 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,920 was he worked at what was going on there and 124 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:35,000 realized that at his age he simply did not have 125 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,159 the energy to deal with that. I think. I think 126 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,559 that he wanted to be the pope and didn't want 127 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,559 to be the you know, the administrator of what was 128 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,879 going on. And then of course you have the whole 129 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:54,559 scandal with the again another Jesuit, the artist Marco Rupnik, 130 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,279 who is associated with some hit just horrendous cases of 131 00:08:59,399 --> 00:09:08,080 sexual use of religious women, and he was dismissed from 132 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:13,840 his order. He was layisized, which means Joe made non clergy. 133 00:09:14,799 --> 00:09:18,159 That order was somehow reversed, and so he's back in 134 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:24,240 a clerical state somewhere, I want to say, he's in Austria, 135 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:29,919 I think. But his artwork is still still used by 136 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,759 the Vatican for various holiday events, and it's still featured 137 00:09:34,799 --> 00:09:38,440 in a lot of major churches, and so they've never 138 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,480 really come to grips on what we are going to 139 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,279 do about this man and his work. So I think 140 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:50,720 that on the on his promise of transparency and accountability, 141 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:54,720 he felt really really short, and I think that it 142 00:09:54,919 --> 00:09:58,159 was study a classic case of the in crowd protecting 143 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,399 the in crowd, and he either acquiesced to it or 144 00:10:02,759 --> 00:10:05,000 was leading the charge, depending on how you talked. 145 00:10:04,799 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: To Yeah, you cover a lot in this piece. It's 146 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,120 at RedState dot com. It's called breaking Pope Francis dead 147 00:10:11,159 --> 00:10:14,480 at eighty eight fair to say it was at his 148 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,639 legacy is a mixed bag at this point. 149 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,399 Speaker 2: I think, so we'll see what the next guy does. 150 00:10:23,519 --> 00:10:26,919 As I at my last count this morning, it was 151 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,440 of the one hundred and thirty five cardinals who can vote, 152 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,120 because those are the ones under eighty. He has appointed 153 00:10:34,159 --> 00:10:38,639 one hundred and nine. So a lot of people are 154 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:44,320 expecting a Francis the second you appear. But there's also 155 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,639 at a large number of people who watched the church 156 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,679 who say that, you know, his heavy handedness, his overbearing way, 157 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:58,480 the way he micro manage things really rubbed even people 158 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,080 he appointed the wrong way. And so look for a 159 00:11:02,279 --> 00:11:04,879 pope who's going to be a lot more hands off 160 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,159 and a lot more of a traditional pope next time around, 161 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,240 rather than someone who is trying to turn bishops into 162 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,679 lower level middle managers and run the entire Catholic Church 163 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,960 from his office, which I think is a fair description 164 00:11:21,039 --> 00:11:22,840 of how Francis ran the church. 165 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,639 Speaker 1: I would just like to announce I'm taking my name 166 00:11:25,759 --> 00:11:27,279 out of the running for. 167 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: Pope me too. 168 00:11:28,279 --> 00:11:32,759 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah it does. Hey Bill, I appreciate your time today, 169 00:11:32,799 --> 00:11:35,200 great work at Red State, and we'll have you back 170 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,639 on soon. Thank you, sir. 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Statement from the Vatican, 189 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,960 Dearest brothers and sisters, with deep sorrow, I must announce 190 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,840 the death of our Holy Father Francis. At seven thirty 191 00:12:47,879 --> 00:12:50,639 five this morning, the Bishop of Rome, Francis returned to 192 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,519 the House of the Father. His entire life was dedicated 193 00:12:53,519 --> 00:12:56,559 to the service of the Lord and of his church. 194 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,120 He taught us to live the values of the Gospel 195 00:12:59,159 --> 00:13:03,039 with fidelity, courage, and universal love, especially in favor of 196 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,720 the poorest and most marginalized. With immense gratitude for his example, 197 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,759 as a true disciple of the Lord Jesus, we commend 198 00:13:10,759 --> 00:13:13,360 the soul of Pope Francis to the infinite merciful love 199 00:13:13,759 --> 00:13:17,320 of the One and Triune God. The Pope was admitted 200 00:13:17,519 --> 00:13:21,000 to the hospital on Friday, February fourteenth, twenty twenty five, 201 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,519 when he had a bout of bronchitis. For several days, 202 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:29,320 his situation gradually worsened. His doctors diagnosed him with bilateral 203 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:35,080 pneumonia on Tuesday, February eighteenth. He spent thirty eight days 204 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,320 in the hospital. He then returned to his Vatican residence 205 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,679 to continue his recovery. In nineteen fifty seven, in his 206 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,120 early twenties, Jorge Mario Burgoglio underwent surgery in his native 207 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,679 Argentina to remove a portion of his lung that had 208 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,639 been affected by a severe respiratory infection, and as he aged, 209 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,919 Pope Francis frequently suffered bouts of respiratory illnesses, even canceling 210 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,159 a planned trip to the United Arab It's in November 211 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,080 of twenty twenty three due to influenza and lung inflammation. 212 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,120 That again is part of the statement from Vatican News 213 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:16,840 dot VA. In a statement from the Catholic Church, Bill, 214 00:14:16,919 --> 00:14:17,679 welcome to the show. 215 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: Hello Bill, Hello Pete. First time call on your program, 216 00:14:23,039 --> 00:14:24,240 A long time listener. 217 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, sir. Welcome. 218 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,399 Speaker 3: A couple of small corrections, and I am if I'm wrong, 219 00:14:30,639 --> 00:14:35,519 I'm I'm prepared to be counter corrections. I just should 220 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,960 call it one. On the last caller, he said, no 221 00:14:40,039 --> 00:14:42,960 one out of Rome has been a pope in two 222 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,960 hundred years. I thought we had a Polish pope. A 223 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,080 couple of popes Ago. 224 00:14:47,559 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: That would be John Paul the second in Poland, I 225 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,000 believe does count as Europe. But I think he said Italy. Yeah, 226 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,000 he said Italy, but he met but he wrote right, 227 00:14:57,039 --> 00:15:01,799 he said Italy. But that was Bill Wells. He is 228 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:05,279 a writer at RedState dot com. He did say in 229 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:08,000 our conversation he said Italy, but he wrote in the 230 00:15:08,039 --> 00:15:12,440 piece outside Europe and the last ones from the last 231 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,960 one from outside Europe, Gregory the third in the eighth century. 232 00:15:17,559 --> 00:15:22,039 Speaker 3: Wow, okay. And also Trump, And I'm not a Trump critic, 233 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,679 I voted for him twice. But he did say he 234 00:15:25,759 --> 00:15:29,639 will have all flags fly at half masts. Well, that's 235 00:15:29,879 --> 00:15:34,960 totally outdated. He should have said half staff because as 236 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:39,399 an army officer about sixty years ago, I learned that 237 00:15:40,399 --> 00:15:44,519 a staff is what the flag flies on. A mast 238 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,080 is what a flag flies on only on the ship 239 00:15:48,559 --> 00:15:54,399 or on a naval base or right. I think those two. 240 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,080 And I think that Country Day School here in Charlotte. 241 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,519 I've talked to a couple of people who taught there 242 00:16:01,559 --> 00:16:05,720 and so forth that there's there's is not a mass 243 00:16:05,919 --> 00:16:09,159 it is or it is a mass not a staff, 244 00:16:09,159 --> 00:16:11,480 And you can tell by the I don't know what 245 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:17,159 those uh, those outrigger ropes that go uh to the 246 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:22,840 crosspiece and down, they will distinguish a mast from a staff. 247 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,799 Speaker 1: All right, I will if I ever get a chance 248 00:16:26,879 --> 00:16:29,600 to talk with Donald Trump, I will, I will pass 249 00:16:29,919 --> 00:16:33,039 the correction onto him. But you are correct. Staff is 250 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,879 not masked and mask does not staff. 251 00:16:35,639 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: Say say hi to him. For by the way, my 252 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,159 holy Father, my only holy Father, is God only. But 253 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,919 I do respect my Catholic friends. 254 00:16:46,159 --> 00:16:49,639 Speaker 1: All right, Bill, I appreciate your call, sir, Thank you, yes, sir, right, 255 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,440 take care. I made that mistake one time in a 256 00:16:52,519 --> 00:16:56,559 newscast like twenty years ago. I said flags flying at 257 00:16:56,559 --> 00:17:00,799 half staff, and or sorry, I said flag flying at 258 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:07,240 half masked. And all the emails that I got, so 259 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,599 that's when I learned that masked is not staff and 260 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,279 staff is not mass. They are different things. So when 261 00:17:14,279 --> 00:17:19,039 Trump said half masked, he was wrong. He was wrong. 262 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,519 It's half staff. That's what people told me. I swear. 263 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:26,119 That's like I got some of the worst emails after that. 264 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,680 I made that mistake. All right. If you're listening to 265 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,240 this show, you know I try to keep up with 266 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,400 all sorts of current events, and I know you do too, 267 00:17:32,559 --> 00:17:35,039 And you've probably heard me say get your news from 268 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,720 multiple sources. Why well, because it's how you detect media bias, 269 00:17:39,759 --> 00:17:42,319 which is why I've been so impressed with ground News. 270 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,119 It's an app and it's a website and it combines 271 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,200 news from around the world in one place so you 272 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,640 can compare coverage and verify information. You could check it 273 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,200 out at check dot ground, dot news slash pete. I 274 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,119 put the link in the podcast description too. I started 275 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,880 using ground News a few months ago and more recently 276 00:18:02,079 --> 00:18:04,079 chose to work with them as an affiliate because it 277 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,960 lets me see clearly how stories get covered and by whom. 278 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,200 The blind spot feature shows you which stories get ignored 279 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,160 by the left and the right. 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William Jacobson, 290 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,960 writing at Legal insurrection dot Com, says the judiciary appears 291 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:01,799 to be cracking under the weight of Democrat lawfare. He 292 00:19:01,839 --> 00:19:08,720 talks about how the emergency stay issued just after midnight 293 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:12,519 Saturday morning, April nineteenth by the US Supreme Court over 294 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:20,960 the descent of Justices Alito and Thomas. The stay halted 295 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:28,920 all deportations under the Alien Enemies Act. The Supreme Court conduct, 296 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,480 he says, was bizarre by any standard, reacting to a 297 00:19:32,519 --> 00:19:36,599 filing that was made on Friday night, before a holiday 298 00:19:36,599 --> 00:19:42,640 weekend without giving the government any chance to respond. This 299 00:19:42,839 --> 00:19:49,000 is highly unusual. The conduct of numerous district court judges 300 00:19:49,039 --> 00:19:52,440 has been emotional and reactive, but you don't expect that 301 00:19:52,599 --> 00:19:59,319 from the US Supreme Court. Yet it happened. Alito wrote 302 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:04,279 the dissent opinion. He was joined by Clarence Thomas. Here's 303 00:20:04,319 --> 00:20:09,200 what Alito wrote, shortly after midnight yesterday, the Court hastily 304 00:20:09,319 --> 00:20:16,319 and prematurely granted unprecedented emergency relief. The Court ordered the government. 305 00:20:16,599 --> 00:20:20,759 He puts that in quotes not to remove a putative 306 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:26,960 class of detainees. Key, here is a class, right, a 307 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,759 group of people, like when you hear a class action lawsuit, 308 00:20:29,799 --> 00:20:32,599 like a class of people that share you know, a 309 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:40,000 particular similar you know, either harm or claim or something 310 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:42,200 that they'ressuing that makes them all united, Like we were 311 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,799 all harmed by this company, So we are a class 312 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,119 in the lawsuit. So this is the class of detainees. 313 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:55,720 Although the order does not define this class, it appears 314 00:20:56,039 --> 00:21:01,240 that the court means all members of the class that 315 00:21:01,599 --> 00:21:09,759 the petitioners have sought the ACLU has sought to have certified, namely, quote, 316 00:21:09,839 --> 00:21:13,640 all non citizens in custody in the Northern District of 317 00:21:13,759 --> 00:21:18,880 Texas who were, are, or will be subject to the 318 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,240 March twenty twenty five Presidential proclamation called Invocation of the 319 00:21:23,279 --> 00:21:26,000 Alien Enemies Act regarding the invasion of the United States 320 00:21:26,039 --> 00:21:29,160 by Trendy at Ragua and or its implementation. Okay, so 321 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:32,920 they didn't they have not defined this unless you're just 322 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,079 going to go with what the ACLU has defined them, 323 00:21:35,079 --> 00:21:40,160 and that was their description their definition. He says, though, 324 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,079 that the court did this even though it's not clear 325 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:50,359 that the court has jurisdiction. It is questionable whether the 326 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:56,200 applicants complied with the general obligation to seek emergency injunctive relief. So, 327 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,240 in other words, we're going to seek an emergency injunction 328 00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:03,160 at a lower court in the district court before asking 329 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,400 for relief from an appellate court. Right, you start at 330 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,880 the lowest court and you work your way up. And 331 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,000 they didn't do that in this case. The ACLU did 332 00:22:13,079 --> 00:22:18,119 not do that. When the applicants the ACLU requested such 333 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,480 relief in the district Court, they insisted on a ruling 334 00:22:21,519 --> 00:22:25,920 within forty five minutes on a good Friday afternoon, and 335 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,000 when the district Court did not act within one hundred 336 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,119 and thirty three minutes, they filed a notice of appeal. 337 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:40,119 He says, that's you're basically depriving the district Court of 338 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:46,440 its jurisdiction. The only papers before this court were those 339 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,599 submitted by the applicants. The court had not ordered or 340 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,759 received a response by the government regarding either the applicants' 341 00:22:53,799 --> 00:22:57,920 factual allegations or any of the legal issues presented by 342 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:04,759 their application. There's no there's no response from the government 343 00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:07,680 because they fast like fast tracked this thing in a 344 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,720 way that we have not seen them do. He said. 345 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,400 The Alito writes that the papers before us, while alleging 346 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,799 that the applicants were in imminent danger of removal, they 347 00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:26,640 provided little concrete support for that allegation. Although the court 348 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,799 provided class wide relief, the District Court never certified a class, 349 00:23:31,839 --> 00:23:34,000 which is what you're supposed to do in these types 350 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:37,279 of proceedings. You have to certify the class. You have 351 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:39,680 to say this is actually a class, and they didn't 352 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,759 do that. He says, in some literally in the middle 353 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:50,240 of the night, the court issued unprecedented and legally questionable relief, 354 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,839 without giving the lower courts a chance to rule, without 355 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,799 hearing from the opposing party, within eight hours of receiving 356 00:23:57,799 --> 00:24:03,079 the application, with dubie factual support for its order, and 357 00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:08,880 without providing any explanation for its order. I refuse to 358 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,039 join the Court's order because we had no good reason 359 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,920 to think that under the circumstances, issuing an order at 360 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:21,839 midnight was necessary or appropriate. He then says, both the 361 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,720 executive and the judiciary have an obligation to follow the law. 362 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:30,920 The executive must proceed under the terms of our order, 363 00:24:31,799 --> 00:24:38,359 and this court should follow established procedures. He's calling out 364 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,359 the seven other members of the Supreme Court. 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All right, back to the Supreme 391 00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:19,799 Court emergency stay that was issued Saturday morning, early Saturday morning, 392 00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:25,279 like just after midnight, and the gentleman that we interviewed 393 00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:28,599 at the beginning of the hour, Bill Wells, the writer 394 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:35,319 at RedState dot com named Strife str ei Ff. He 395 00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:39,960 wrote about this also he says it's not clear this 396 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,839 is according to Alito's descent. Alito lays out the problems 397 00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:46,240 that it's not clear if the court has any jurisdiction 398 00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:49,839 on this case, and that the ACLU probably did not 399 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,160 even have the authority to appeal to the Fifth Circuit 400 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,440 Court of Appeals in the first place, much less to 401 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,640 the US Supreme Court. Okay, the Fifth Circuit was still 402 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,359 consent cohering the case when the Supreme Court intervened, even 403 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,279 though the Supreme Court knew that the Fifth Circuit would 404 00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:13,920 be issuing a ruling momentarily. So why did the US 405 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,720 Supreme Court bigfoot the Fifth Circuit? The government was not 406 00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:23,119 given a chance to respond to the appeal, and the 407 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,079 evidence in the appeal does not support emergency action. And 408 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,839 then Alito reminds the Court of a prior ruling in 409 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:40,000 South Bay United Pentecostal Church versus Newsome Gavin Newsome, that 410 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:48,319 is okay. There was a request an emergency appeal from 411 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:55,440 California Governor Gavin Newsom's order closing churches during the pandemic. 412 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,680 The church wanted an injunction, and they wanted an emergency appeal, 413 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,519 And the US Supreme Court said an injunction pending appeal 414 00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:11,720 can only be granted when quote, the legal rights at 415 00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:18,559 issue are indisputably clear, and even then sparingly, and only 416 00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:24,799 in the most critical and exigent circumstances. So Alito is 417 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:30,559 throwing Robert's words right back in his face. This is 418 00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:34,519 what you guys used as your rationale for not taking 419 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:40,599 up that emergency appeal. But this one goes. This one's allowed. 420 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,920 It violates our rules. The lower court is already hearing it, 421 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000 even though they probably shouldn't even be hearing it either, 422 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:51,240 let alone us. And then you just bigfoot them and 423 00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:54,640 take it and give the emergency appeal without giving one 424 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,119 of the parties in the case an opportunity to reply, 425 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:04,200 to respond to the appeal. I got to tell you 426 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,319 the way it looks, there's a word for the way 427 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:12,279 this looks. It looks like corruption. That's what it looks like, 428 00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:16,640 because I haven't seen any of the legal rationale for it. 429 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:22,880 But that's it is not good. Apparently American citizens being 430 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,319 prevented from gathering to worship was not a problem. But 431 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,400 you get a bunch of illegal alien gang bangers facing deportation, 432 00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:36,759 which they've been ordered deported, and that's that's worthy of 433 00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:43,720 us breaking all of our our norms over right. In 434 00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:47,680 a related story, an American citizen was held in a 435 00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:52,039 Florida jail at the request of the US Immigration and 436 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:56,960 Customs Enforcement So this is an American citizen held in 437 00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:01,759 a Florida jail at the request of ICE, despite the 438 00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:07,039 county judge being able to see a US birth certificate 439 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:13,240 in court. This is from the Hill dot Com. The 440 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:19,240 guy's name is Juan Carlos Lopez Gomez. Not kidding. He 441 00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:22,279 was born in the United States, and he was detained 442 00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:26,039 last week in Florida by the state's Highway Patrol and 443 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,839 was charged with illegally entering Florida as an unauthorized alien 444 00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:35,680 under a state law. This is not federal. This is 445 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,839 a state law that has been temporarily blocked now by 446 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:46,400 a judge. Leon County Judge Lashawn Riggins said that despite 447 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,559 the charge against Lopez Gomez being dropped, she did not 448 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,240 have the authority to release the twenty year old because 449 00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:59,440 Ice asked the Leon County jail to hold him, which 450 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,519 is true. She would not have that authority to release 451 00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:05,039 him if there's been an ICE detainer put on him 452 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,359 and the state of Florida says you have to cooperate 453 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:15,519 with Ice. The judge looks at Lopez Gomez's birth certificate, 454 00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:20,759 which had been waived earlier in court by a supporter. 455 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,039 I think that's I think they spelled waved incorrectly. I 456 00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:26,880 think they literally mean waved it around, like held it up. 457 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,920 And the judge said, in looking at it and feeling 458 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,799 it and holding it up to the light. The court 459 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,519 can clearly see the watermark to show that this is 460 00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:43,240 indeed an authentic document. So I was not aware. But 461 00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:48,920 the judge is apparently a document expert as well. He 462 00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:52,279 knows how to detect this kind of thing on the fly. 463 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,640 Lopez Gomez was heading from Georgia and was pulled over 464 00:31:55,759 --> 00:32:00,880 in Florida by a highway patrol trooper. So this is like, 465 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,400 oh my gosh, what an abuse. Holy cow, right, he's 466 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,720 going to get deported now, he's going to get shipped 467 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,200 to El Salvator. He's an American citizen. This is everything 468 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,319 we warned you about. Way down at the end of 469 00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:14,799 the story, I feel the need to point out he 470 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:22,759 was released. So he was released, So is that evidence 471 00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:26,559 that the system worked? So somebody comes in, he's charged 472 00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:30,759 with being an unauthorized alien. Ice says, hey, hold on, 473 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,000 forty eight hour detainer, right, hold on to him. We're 474 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,200 going to check into it. And then apparently they discover, oh, no, 475 00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:40,640 he is an American citizen. So yeah, he's free to go. 476 00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:44,440 Which isn't that the way that's supposed to go? Now, 477 00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:47,920 maybe it should never have gotten to that point. Maybe 478 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,839 they should have been better in communicating. 479 00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: Right. 480 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: Again, I'm not one who believes that Govcode gets all 481 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,720 of this stuff right, but I do bristle at the 482 00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:02,160 idea that people who break every single rule and procedure 483 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,319 to enter now and I'm not saying this guy did, 484 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,359 but in the larger context of the you know, first 485 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,000 they came for the illegal aliens and we didn't give them. 486 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,839 You know, trials like these are they're they're these are 487 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,839 different proceedings. Somebody enters the country illegally, they go through 488 00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:25,279 deportation proceedings. These are not criminal charges, right, these are 489 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,160 it's administrative and you can't prove you're in the country legally. 490 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:34,920 Then you get sent home and that's it. And particularly 491 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,599 with the guy down in Os Salvador, the Marilyn Man. Oh, 492 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,079 by the way, we went over last week, the tattoos 493 00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:45,680 on his fingers, you know, and MS thirteen h represented 494 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,839 there in the in the the icons, in the graphics. 495 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,680 His wife posted some pictures onto social media showing like 496 00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:55,640 he's just a loving dad look at you know, and 497 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,720 have all these pictures, and she blacked out his finger tattoos. 498 00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:05,640 Why would you do that? She scribbles them out like 499 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,840 with the like the digital marker or whatever, you know, 500 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,079 where you can like edit a photo and scribble out 501 00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:14,960 stuff to like black it out. And that's what she did. 502 00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:17,920 She blacked out because he's got his hands around her, 503 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,519 hugging her, and you can see the tats on his knuckles, 504 00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:27,760 and so she she scribbled them out, which I'm sure 505 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:33,679 indicates nothing at all. Nothing all right, that'll do it 506 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,320 for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. 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