Speaker 1: Okay, we are live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome
Speaker 1: to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show. Have a very
Speaker 1: special guest, returning guest. His name is Chuck o'chelly. Last
Speaker 1: name is spelled O c h E l I. If
Speaker 1: you listen to my show, you've heard him on before.
Speaker 2: And if you're.
Speaker 1: Watching this on rockfinn X or Rumble, you will see
Speaker 1: his website, the Ochil Effects, so go check that out.
Speaker 1: Subtitle is Revelation through Conversation. He has a lot of
Speaker 1: great shows on there, a lot of names that look familiar.
Speaker 1: I've been on there. As a matter of fact, we
Speaker 1: talked about the Klaine Maxwell trial, Smiley Face Killers, Global
Speaker 1: Death Cult, won My books. But he's also Rex Huerman,
Speaker 1: the Go Go Beach serial killer, but he's come on
Speaker 1: my show. He's also known as the blind JFK researcher
Speaker 1: and he's discussed all his excellent research into the JFK assassination.
Speaker 1: He has had a lot of guests. You can probably
Speaker 1: talk about this so called recent drop or whatever is happening,
Speaker 1: which is another kind of topic we can talk about,
Speaker 1: which is what's going on with the JFK files and
Speaker 1: Epstein Files because we've been that. They've been in power
Speaker 1: almost two months now, not a lot of activity, but
Speaker 1: the topic of the thing is kind of I think
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about kind of the change in
Speaker 1: this kind of alternate media. Unfortunately, Keith Hansen passed away
Speaker 1: in January. I've reposted some of his stuff, so rep
Speaker 1: rest in peace. He really was kind of a mentor
Speaker 1: to me, not really overtly, but I learned a lot
Speaker 1: from him, and he was very generous and letting me
Speaker 1: to repost his archives, so please people go check that out.
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of ties into this theme is
Speaker 1: that he's kind of this one of these early guys.
Speaker 1: He worked at a college in Tampa and did these
Speaker 1: kind of early discussions really at the beginning of all
Speaker 1: this technology. I don't even think the podcast technology anywhere
Speaker 1: what it was today or what it is today, but
Speaker 1: doing it and putting it out and on trying to
Speaker 1: get it out on different sites. But some of his
Speaker 1: guests are really incredible. Some people are around just Mars
Speaker 1: and Knowles I know is on there early and Derek Gilbert,
Speaker 1: who's been a longtime guy in the alternate media from
Speaker 1: a Christian perspective and so many other important names. Pee
Speaker 1: a lot of JFK research, and that was the name
Speaker 1: of his show, is Beyond the Grassy knowl Right, So
Speaker 1: the Grassy know from Dealey Plaza. And so he was
Speaker 1: really one of some people would I think falsely label
Speaker 1: him a conspiracy research. I would put him in the
Speaker 1: alternate media parapolitical research, I prefer that term. But so
Speaker 1: he's left us, but he's left a great legacy. And
Speaker 1: it's kind of like this, this is kind of there
Speaker 1: was this kind of like ragtag mentality it used to
Speaker 1: be in the alternate media that's really changed with all
Speaker 1: the money and all these kind of new people. And
Speaker 1: I think that I see I've kind of had this
Speaker 1: feeling listening to others, like I heard you on I
Speaker 1: think you were on with on Propaganda Report or with
Speaker 1: Monica Perez or something. I heard you recently at Chuck.
Speaker 1: But it's kind of a frustration in this alternate media
Speaker 1: of this real change you see, this real monetary thing involved,
Speaker 1: and also a lot of new names and a lot
Speaker 1: of strange people, Like there's been a buzz about this
Speaker 1: guy Ian Carroll who went on Jude Rogan and like
Speaker 1: you started he's kind of like a kind of a
Speaker 1: new Alex Jones. He was on Alex Jones, like kind
Speaker 1: of a strange guy. But he's kind of just repeating
Speaker 1: kind of other stuff that I think is out there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's really at the cutting edge
Speaker 1: or avant garde of research and things like that, but
Speaker 1: it is an interesting environment. And Chuck's gonna talk more
Speaker 1: about that. And Chuck has been on his show for
Speaker 1: what twelve years now, So Chuck, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: And for people who don't know your background, maybe you
Speaker 1: can talk about that and kind of what's going on
Speaker 1: with this topic about what's going on in the new media.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, my background not even all that important personally,
Speaker 3: real fast, Yeah, my background is not even all that
Speaker 3: important personally. But the thing is, there's a long history
Speaker 3: to this There's a long history to this media which
Speaker 3: pre exists the Internet. We could look back at the
Speaker 3: days when May Brussel was doing her thing in the
Speaker 3: seventies and the eighties, we could look back at Bill Cooper. Look,
Speaker 3: we've all got our views on this stuff. And of
Speaker 3: course there were many local radio hosts who did some
Speaker 3: amazing stuff, who revealed things that you couldn't get at
Speaker 3: your local library, you couldn't get through your television, you
Speaker 3: couldn't And that's great and I love that stuff and
Speaker 3: it's all classic and wonderful. But there was also like
Speaker 3: a renaissance in the early two thousands on the Internet
Speaker 3: where yes, suddenly they didn't even call it podcasting, right,
Speaker 3: It was just this audio technology became available. We were
Speaker 3: able to maintain a broadcast, which meant that you could
Speaker 3: reach the entire world really so long as they had
Speaker 3: internet access. And this led to a new renaissance once
Speaker 3: again again. But what's funny is the old patterns maintain themselves.
Speaker 3: William and I find it interesting because you can either
Speaker 3: be part of the fringe or you can be part
Speaker 3: of the approved media, and that used to come along
Speaker 3: with a stamp like ABC, CBS, NBC. But those dinosaur
Speaker 3: days are long gone. We went through the cable access
Speaker 3: and cable distribution and the age of YouTube so to speak, right,
Speaker 3: and now almost everybody and their mother can make a podcast,
Speaker 3: and I think that's great, But at the same time
Speaker 3: we're kind of lost in this sea of strangeness where
Speaker 3: people that are just capable of doing a Google search
Speaker 3: become guests on these shows, which is fascinating. Meanwhile, people
Speaker 3: that do hard work. And I was thinking about you,
Speaker 3: especially this week, because I just ran across and I
Speaker 3: sent you an email actually about the Happy Face Killer,
Speaker 3: and I said to myself, this is funny because it's
Speaker 3: almost listen of what William Ramsey's been talking about just
Speaker 3: by name. It has nothing to do with the story,
Speaker 3: mind you. But this presentation that they put out on uh,
Speaker 3: I guess it's a Which platform.
Speaker 2: Is it Oxygen?
Speaker 1: Maybe was that Oxygen?
Speaker 2: It might be Hulu.
Speaker 3: It doesn't even matter, right, one of the streaming of
Speaker 3: whatever's out there anymore at this point, right, lots of
Speaker 3: streaming platforms instead of TV channels, lots of monopolies out there,
Speaker 3: and eventually, I'm sure only five families will control all
Speaker 3: that too, you know, just like they wind up controlling
Speaker 3: everything else. There's basically five guys that control social media.
Speaker 3: There's five companies that control broadcast and digital media, et cetera.
Speaker 3: And eventually, yeah, there'll probably be five streamers that control
Speaker 3: the world there too. I don't know what that is about.
Speaker 3: Is there is there some new you know what? You
Speaker 3: might have a better answer for that. Why is there
Speaker 3: only like five of anything that seems to control the
Speaker 3: entirety of an entire outlet when it comes to media.
Speaker 2: Do you have an idea about that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It doesn't seem right. It seems like
Speaker 1: an anti trust situation to me. But I think they
Speaker 1: must have something with the government or some type of
Speaker 1: allowance or payoffs. I mean, things are so corrupt right
Speaker 1: now people cannot even comprehend. But they must have paid
Speaker 1: off people to be able to aggregate all that and
Speaker 1: just really create this appearance of multiplicity or these myriads
Speaker 1: of things, but they're really just mono culture, same messaging
Speaker 1: down all these other five platforms. But it should to me,
Speaker 1: it should be legal, And I do think eventually you're right,
Speaker 1: there's going to be an aggregation in this kind of
Speaker 1: new media as well, like somebody will try to buy
Speaker 1: it out or take control. It's already happening. I think
Speaker 1: Tim Poole sold his whole outfit to somebody else, to Shapiro,
Speaker 1: whatever his outfit is called. I forgot what it is,
Speaker 1: but yeah, Daily Wire, Daily Wire bought it. So this
Speaker 1: kind of centralization and this kind of like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stake my flag over this alternate media. I think it
Speaker 1: is definitely going to take place.
Speaker 3: Well that's been happening, right. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: got one of these offers, but it seemed like everybody
Speaker 3: I knew that had a podcast outlet a few years back,
Speaker 3: we all got offers actually to buy our archives, to
Speaker 3: buy our platforms, et cetera. I mean, they didn't offer
Speaker 3: me a lot of money. It was only like one
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five thousand dollars or something, but anyway,
Speaker 3: and it would be a ton of money to me personally,
Speaker 3: but it isn't worth the entire decades worth of work
Speaker 3: that I put in. I mean, if you average it out,
Speaker 3: it's not so I didn't go for it. Plus I
Speaker 3: would have to sell all my future, you know, work
Speaker 3: and everything else to these people. So there were deals
Speaker 3: that were offered to people. And we've watched this consolidation
Speaker 3: of the broadcast media again even through radio, all these things.
Speaker 3: And why do I bring all this up Because it
Speaker 3: creates a landscape in which you have the approved right
Speaker 3: outsider media and then you have the actual outsider media.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing is that they're all starting to,
Speaker 3: I don't know, resemble one another. We have a homogeneous,
Speaker 3: sort of vanilla blend of agreed upon material, and I
Speaker 3: find it fascinating that there is simultaneously a shutdown in,
Speaker 3: you know, being able to criticize certain things. I'm telling
Speaker 3: you you're going to be a terrorist if you have
Speaker 3: anything negative to say about Israel, which you know what.
Speaker 3: You might have your own geopolitical beliefs about it or
Speaker 3: religious beliefs about it, and that's fine and dandy, but
Speaker 3: I'm telling you any critique is going to be a
Speaker 3: problem for you soon. And you know me, I'm not
Speaker 3: one of these guys that, you know, let's be blunt.
Speaker 3: There are people out there that want to blame everything
Speaker 3: in the world on the Jews. Okay, this is what
Speaker 3: it is, the Jews, the Jews. That's what they got
Speaker 3: to say about it. I'm probably getting you in trouble
Speaker 3: on a platform somewhere.
Speaker 1: Apologies, but okay, all these platforms are fine.
Speaker 2: Everything's fine. Good.
Speaker 1: Criticized Israel and Jews before. I've criticized Catholics and Protestants,
Speaker 1: So they're not special, They're not special targets.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 3: To me, that's the that's the idea I'm i and
Speaker 3: I've criticized organized religion many a time. But the thing is,
Speaker 3: I'm not out here to apologize about it or anything else.
Speaker 3: I'm just taking note that this is going to be
Speaker 3: an interesting time. If you have anything negative to say
Speaker 3: about the state of Israel. Uh, it's going to be
Speaker 3: an interesting time. If you have anything negative to say
Speaker 3: about our man in Washington, it's going to be an
Speaker 3: interesting time, you know. And I don't know, this does
Speaker 3: not bode well for people that believe in you know,
Speaker 3: free thought and freedom of expression. And I don't know
Speaker 3: that thing we call the Constitution where you know, that
Speaker 3: first amendment's pretty interesting and interlocks a lot of interesting
Speaker 3: freedoms here. I mean, if you destroy the freedom of
Speaker 3: the press by co opting it and turning it into
Speaker 3: a homogeneous, you know, wasteland of disinformation, I mean, what's left, well,
Speaker 3: people's personal expressions if they're all controlled by the digital
Speaker 3: you know, control grid, which is you know, owned by
Speaker 3: again those five billionaires or so that seem to control
Speaker 3: all the social media platforms. Nobody knows how to write
Speaker 3: a letter anymore. So what's left We're going to email
Speaker 3: each other with real information?
Speaker 2: I mean, is that all that's going to be permitted.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: These are my free flowing thoughts at this point, William,
Speaker 3: And I know it probably sounds a little crazy and
Speaker 3: a little like tinfoil hat ish, but I can't help it.
Speaker 2: I see what I.
Speaker 3: See, and maybe it's just my my human being side
Speaker 3: of me, you know, seeing pattern recognition here.
Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts on it? I really want
Speaker 2: to know.
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting because we've had obviously a change
Speaker 1: in administrations, and this new administration has given a lot
Speaker 1: of talk to free speech. You advance kind of scolding
Speaker 1: the EU about you know, breakdown speech, and it's definitely
Speaker 1: happening in Britain, like you can't post anything. Some of
Speaker 1: those show up on your you know, doorstep to arrest you.
Speaker 1: You can't talk about the rape gangs and things like that.
Speaker 1: But I do think it's interesting here in the because
Speaker 1: I think people moved off, like you said, these big things,
Speaker 1: like the censorship was super intense for me, like I
Speaker 1: have my web of my YouTube channel taken down like
Speaker 1: three or four times, one I won't get back. So
Speaker 1: people went to these other kind of platforms and even
Speaker 1: then it's kind of like there's pressure substack and rumble
Speaker 1: and X is kind of more free. But you know,
Speaker 1: some people are complaining about that or Twitter. But I
Speaker 1: do think it's an interesting and how these movements often
Speaker 1: to these other things were against that great word homogeneous
Speaker 1: kind of milk toast news reading that used to be.
Speaker 1: People are sick of that. They don't like it. So
Speaker 1: I think there'll always be a place for shows like
Speaker 1: yours and mine or people like you and me kind
Speaker 1: of trying to parse through things. And it may just
Speaker 1: be that wor there's just certain subjects that are lightning runs. Israel,
Speaker 1: the shot, the whole COVID event. Those were two no
Speaker 1: go things at least during the Biden administration. But it's
Speaker 1: still happening in the new environment, and I think that
Speaker 1: there isn't that. I mean, this new kind of ear
Speaker 1: of transparency hasn't realized itself in the last two months,
Speaker 1: especially with this incredibly lame kind of Epstein rollout which
Speaker 1: happened at the White House, Like, what are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on that? I haven't thought it was baffling and shocking
Speaker 1: at the same time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm cracking up because you know, initially when the
Speaker 3: executive order came out, obviously I'm known for the JFK
Speaker 3: stuff a lot, and people approached me right away. And
Speaker 3: I do mean people are from online to the guy
Speaker 3: who delivers stuff to my house because obviously I'm not
Speaker 3: allowed to go to a store anymore. I got to
Speaker 3: have things delivered and I got bad eyesight, so I
Speaker 3: don't drive.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a thing.
Speaker 3: But anyway, you know, the guy who delivers stuff to
Speaker 3: my house even thoughs I'm a JFK guy, right, and
Speaker 3: he turns around and says to me, aren't you glad
Speaker 3: Trump did all this stuff already and it had just
Speaker 3: been two days after the executive order was released. What's
Speaker 3: hilarious to me is that the sweeping declaration has people
Speaker 3: convinced that something has happened. Now here's the funny part.
Speaker 3: I'm not even criticizing Trump. I'm saying, hold on, everybody,
Speaker 3: nothing has happened yet, and people can't get past that.
Speaker 3: It's really interesting because they expect instant gratification from all directions.
Speaker 3: But they'll have a little more patience, or they'll invent
Speaker 3: the event that they want to see happen and they'll
Speaker 3: say it already happened even though it hasn't.
Speaker 2: It's really interesting. You know Trump already did this. No
Speaker 2: he didn't. He put out the executive order. I read it,
Speaker 2: did you?
Speaker 3: And that's the conversation I keep having to have. No,
Speaker 3: there was a forty five day limit for this, there
Speaker 3: was a fifteen day limit for this. Now he has
Speaker 3: gone over those you know, deadlines now and we still
Speaker 3: haven't seen a lot of things materialized. Plus all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, some somebody tells me they had three thousand
Speaker 3: new files with the FBI, and maybe they don't now.
Speaker 3: I guess cash Pttel hasn't quite gotten his sea legs yet.
Speaker 2: Let's see what happens, is what I say.
Speaker 3: And I'm not even a fan of Trump, because there
Speaker 3: could be a lot of revelation here. There could be
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff. But then again, maybe we'll just
Speaker 3: get another fizzle. Because passed two administrations and one of
Speaker 3: them was a guy named Trump in twenty seventeen, he
Speaker 3: could have done nothing and let a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: stuff that was already vetted in the nineteen nineties be
Speaker 3: released by the assassination records of view Board.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So Trump kicked the can down the road, and the
Speaker 3: Biden administration tried to take the can away and hide
Speaker 3: it on us, you know, and say there's no candacy here.
Speaker 3: That's what they did with the JFK file stuff so far.
Speaker 3: The Epstein thing is even worse though, because from what
Speaker 3: I can tell, I mean, I hate to agree with
Speaker 3: a whole lot of other people, but you know, I
Speaker 3: like being the contrarian who's got that rare piece of information.
Speaker 3: But I gotta say, it looks like a whole lot
Speaker 3: of nothing got released on the Epstein thing, and you know,
Speaker 3: being somebody who's somewhat read into it, I gotta say
Speaker 3: that's really disappointing from the people who are supposed to
Speaker 3: be transparent. But then again, maybe we need to stay
Speaker 3: tuned there as well, because that was only phase one, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I'm trying to keep an
Speaker 3: open mind as we're getting exactly what Steve Bannon said
Speaker 3: we would get, which is the zone completely flooded with information,
Speaker 3: with brand new outrage, with brand new sweeping declarations so
Speaker 3: continuously that we would not have time to think. Now,
Speaker 3: he said, the media wouldn't have time to catch up.
Speaker 3: But if the media can't catch up and the people
Speaker 3: can't catch up, you know, what do we got French
Speaker 3: fries and no ketchup.
Speaker 2: Here? We are you know?
Speaker 3: And yes I'm being a little bit facetious and I'm
Speaker 3: being a little bit sarcastic. But what else am I
Speaker 3: supposed to do in an atmosphere where again, you can't
Speaker 3: keep track of the different declarations and what has and
Speaker 3: hasn't happened as we go here? Uh yeah, I think
Speaker 3: he flooded the zone pretty well. I think Trump followed
Speaker 3: that advice. What do you think of that? I think
Speaker 3: it's incredible. I think that they haven't brought it out
Speaker 3: like the JAFF Did you read the presidential directive right?
Speaker 3: But apparently that JFK said you can release it at
Speaker 3: your leisure or something like. There wasn't a timeframe on it.
Speaker 1: It just said release what you got if you can,
Speaker 1: Like I heard that there was a carve out in it.
Speaker 1: So that's very suspicious to me. And all that stuff
Speaker 1: like this, like fanfare, Like, I think you're right flooding
Speaker 1: the zone. But the fanfare around the Epstein files was
Speaker 1: built up in the alternate at least I only read
Speaker 1: the alternate media. It was built up to a crescendo
Speaker 1: and then it was just a big splot like I'm
Speaker 1: familiar with the Epstein files. I read all that stuff
Speaker 1: back in twenty eighteen. Like I read Giuffray's autobiography. I
Speaker 1: know all the people she said she slept with, including Mitchell,
Speaker 1: which is the whole other story. But like all those
Speaker 1: documents were already out. There was an un blanked out
Speaker 1: copy of the Black Book that they blacked out for
Speaker 1: this folder. So people who know this know they're being bamboozled.
Speaker 1: Like I knew I was bad. I felt bamboozled. But
Speaker 1: something more profound is happening there in that alternate media.
Speaker 1: Because those were all people in the alternate media. I
Speaker 1: think that there's some questionable intel stuff going on that
Speaker 1: the White House may not key into. If they do,
Speaker 1: it's even darker. But I think there was an element
Speaker 1: of that rollout that was coercive to those media people.
Speaker 1: So the libs of Tick, Doc, d C, Draino House,
Speaker 1: and Habit, I think they were given privileged access. Look, look,
Speaker 1: you can come to the White House. We have this
Speaker 1: special chairs, the comfy chair, and this cute binder, and
Speaker 1: now you're going to go tell it to all your
Speaker 1: followers that you have this huge thing. So like they're
Speaker 1: literally walking out of the White House with this binder
Speaker 1: showing off and really giddy and smiling.
Speaker 2: It was trash.
Speaker 1: So either they got played they didn't admit it. But
Speaker 1: they're also giving access, and maybe that's the real kind
Speaker 1: of subrosa intent by the White Houses. You're going to
Speaker 1: get access, and we're going to give out all this
Speaker 1: chicken feed for the next four years, and you're going to.
Speaker 2: Go along with it.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what my thinking has becoming. That is
Speaker 1: actually a scary element of the theme that you're talking about.
Speaker 1: This is mohamajaneity that's going to actually be imposed by
Speaker 1: the power always been imposed by the power be on
Speaker 1: the new media that used to be much more byzantine
Speaker 1: and bifurcated. Yeah, so that's kind of.
Speaker 3: Like my thought, right, And here's the other thought, right,
Speaker 3: if you're completely open minded, you might consider that it
Speaker 3: is possible that this is just a way to control
Speaker 3: opposition as well. You know, it does seem to me
Speaker 3: as though, and I was told this by some interesting
Speaker 3: people that have predictions and they're never wrong, but they
Speaker 3: don't make a lot of predictions. They don't make a
Speaker 3: lot of sweeping things. Every once in a while, you
Speaker 3: see Gerald Celenti out there, or these guys who tell
Speaker 3: you what's coming, and they never focus on when they
Speaker 3: got it wrong. But it's really interesting to me because
Speaker 3: you could say, maybe Trump is part of the controlling
Speaker 3: the opposition paradigm. You know, maybe he's just the way
Speaker 3: to shut everybody the hell up. Well, they do what
Speaker 3: it is they got to do. I'm saying, it's very
Speaker 3: weird to me that a whole lot of people who
Speaker 3: are patriots, who believe that, you know, we should not
Speaker 3: be controlled by the technocracy, are welcoming in the technocracy,
Speaker 3: are only accepting the approved media now, are going along
Speaker 3: with what is the establishment. I mean, you got to
Speaker 3: accept that if he's got the presidency and his party
Speaker 3: controls both houses and all these things are going on,
Speaker 3: and just wait, the storm is gathering. If you're trusting
Speaker 3: the plan, it looks like, I don't know, not a
Speaker 3: lot it's being delivered for you, unless you're really happy
Speaker 3: with the cuts in Oh, I don't know, government jobs.
Speaker 3: I mean, if that's something that makes you happy, great,
Speaker 3: I can see where it would. He's supposedly gonna go, Oh,
Speaker 3: did he launch that rocket to go get the astronauts?
Speaker 2: Do you know if that happened? I missed that story.
Speaker 2: Did it happen?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Did it is that RhE? I don't know.
Speaker 3: No, But you see what I'm doing is that it's
Speaker 3: like every few minutes, I'm like that cartoon dog squirrel.
Speaker 3: You know, I can't even keep track of the flooded zone.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I know that we haven't
Speaker 3: gotten a lot delivered yet. Now again, some people would
Speaker 3: say that you need to be patient. You know, things
Speaker 3: are changing rapidly, and but I also don't trust Elon Musk, right,
Speaker 3: I don't know why anybody does anyway, maybe maybe you
Speaker 3: could have helped me out with this. Why do people
Speaker 3: trust Elon Musk? I don't get it because I thought
Speaker 3: that we should worry about the guy who wanted to
Speaker 3: do brain chips and has you know, uh electric cars
Speaker 3: and all this, you know, privileged Tesla technology, et cetera.
Speaker 3: You know, this guy I thought wasn't supposed to be trustworthy.
Speaker 3: I know he supposedly brought free speech back to Twitter,
Speaker 3: but all that I noticed increase since he's been back
Speaker 3: is the pornbots. To be honest with you, they rapidly increased.
Speaker 3: I can't get through a day without some little girly
Speaker 3: trying to convince me that I need to go check
Speaker 3: out her private camera shows on Twitter x at all.
Speaker 3: But that's the only thing that really increased. I mean,
Speaker 3: he did reinstate some people, but again, which people did
Speaker 3: he reinstate on Twitter? Take a look at who's part
Speaker 3: of the approved narrative. A new story is forming here,
Speaker 3: and I'm not saying I have the complete story in hand.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is we're watching something new or merge here,
Speaker 3: something different, and I don't think it's good for the
Speaker 3: majority of us. I just got to say, will you,
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just me, Maybe it's just my conspiratorial mindset,
Speaker 3: which is really funny because they suddenly changed the word
Speaker 3: conspirator into something that I thought you had to be
Speaker 3: actively part of a conspiracy to be a conspirator, but
Speaker 3: apparently now it's just somebody who speaks about things that
Speaker 3: are conspiracy oriented. They all you a conspirator. But again,
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about conspiracy. I'm just looking at patterns here,
Speaker 3: and these patterns are coming together to make me think
Speaker 3: something new is about to happen here, and I'm not sure,
Speaker 3: it's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, yeah, I think you're totally right. It's interesting
Speaker 1: that you mentioned Musk after we just talked about this
Speaker 1: whole Epstein release because all those people there are huge
Speaker 1: on Twitter, like they all have a million the follower accounts,
Speaker 1: So maybe that's really like the connection is in an
Speaker 1: addition to probably other medias. But I'm on Twitter, so
Speaker 1: I see this is that that's the connection between Musk
Speaker 1: and them, And maybe that's the whole technocratic intent is
Speaker 1: to have your own kind of little cohesive, homogeneous group
Speaker 1: of people on your website that you can give information
Speaker 1: to and then spill out information that you want. And
Speaker 1: maybe that's the whole thing that's behind this Epstein thing,
Speaker 1: is like we're not gonna give out the real information
Speaker 1: because we now have the blackmail information and maybe they're
Speaker 1: keeping that. Maybe that's an element to it. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but that's information that they put out was trash. But
Speaker 1: like the porn bots are really good, Like for people
Speaker 1: who don't know, the reason why the porn bots are
Speaker 1: there is that it comes in behind the information you
Speaker 1: put down and then it gets downgraded on the system
Speaker 1: because it's porn associated. And I literally had like a
Speaker 1: porn bot yesterday in a nanosecond, like, wow, I just
Speaker 1: posted this. How do you know what's the information that
Speaker 1: I'm posting? Like I don't even know, like because some
Speaker 1: of this stuff I don't get porn bots, but like
Speaker 1: that's that needs to be cleaned up on it.
Speaker 3: Oh No, they've drastically reduced the traffic to my podcast
Speaker 3: because almost every time I post, I put out a
Speaker 3: new podcast, within seconds they're liking my new podcast. And
Speaker 3: it's a bunch of them where you got one picture
Speaker 3: of a woman, oh by the way, you know, go
Speaker 3: to my only fans and that's all there is to
Speaker 3: And I don't even know if these aren't just AI
Speaker 3: generations or if they're real people that maybe make a
Speaker 3: living that way. And again, I don't begrudge anybody's I
Speaker 3: feel like I'm.
Speaker 2: In one of those mob movies. I don't judge anyway.
Speaker 3: Man makes a living, you see, you know when he's
Speaker 3: talking this a lot so about the drug game, I
Speaker 3: don't judge. Listen, if you do something and you're not
Speaker 3: harming somebody else directly, and you make a living off
Speaker 3: a bit, more power to you go, you know. But
Speaker 3: the thing is, I think most of it's AI generated,
Speaker 3: and it's really weird how these brand new pornobots are
Speaker 3: jumping on my podcasts immediately and directly affecting the traffic
Speaker 3: coming from Twitter or X because I still have the
Speaker 3: ability to track that. I'm not getting the engagement from
Speaker 3: X I used to get, and I've only got a
Speaker 3: couple thousand followers, so we're not talking about huge numbers here.
Speaker 3: But drastic changes are drastic changes. And I didn't even
Speaker 3: think to mention that until you brought it up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's happening with these porn box right there.
Speaker 1: I think they're AI generated and they're integrated into the system.
Speaker 1: So it kind of makes you wonder more about Elon Musk,
Speaker 1: like what's going on here? Who's behind all this stuff?
Speaker 1: We know before he bought it, the FBI was it
Speaker 1: was just full redolent with like state actors. I don't
Speaker 1: even call it the deep state anymore because it's so
Speaker 1: readily apparent, like you think it's that deep, because that's
Speaker 1: all I see is like these malevolent actors from our
Speaker 1: government who were paying taxes to and then getting lied to,
Speaker 1: Like WHOA, we're subsidizing the view for six million dollars
Speaker 1: a year, like for this garbage. So he said, like,
Speaker 1: we're paying. A funny comment on X Today was like,
Speaker 1: after they said six million dollars in the view, somebody wrote,
Speaker 1: so we're paying for our own torture.
Speaker 3: Here's see again context though. Here here's the amazing thing.
Speaker 3: We also found out that, you know, suddenly Russia was
Speaker 3: paying a bunch of podcasters and stuff too. And if
Speaker 3: you take notice of a bunch of people that disappeared.
Speaker 3: I know I'm not supposed to believe anything about Russia, right,
Speaker 3: But the thing is, I believe in a lot of
Speaker 3: these larger state entities buying influence across the internet where
Speaker 3: they feel it's appropriate. Of course they're going to They're
Speaker 3: gonna buy their influence in media wherever it's available, and
Speaker 3: to the highest bidder it will go.
Speaker 2: So sure, I.
Speaker 3: Believe that somebody got paid one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 3: thousand dollars in rubles and didn't even question it. Yeah, gee,
Speaker 3: I didn't know that my podcast would be worth that
Speaker 3: much money, but it is. These guys get these amounts
Speaker 3: of money. You saw those stories a few months ago.
Speaker 3: I know they've disappeared now, but I also found it
Speaker 3: interesting a couple of media outlets that disappeared right around
Speaker 3: that same time and rebranded themselves and all that.
Speaker 2: It's fir.
Speaker 1: Are you willing to name names which ones?
Speaker 3: Uh No, not right now. I'd rather people went and
Speaker 3: looked and decided for yourself. I want you to go
Speaker 3: look if you can. At around the same time all
Speaker 3: those Russian stories came out, there was a few media
Speaker 3: outlets that were in the alt world that suddenly rebranded, disappeared,
Speaker 3: and retired. And you should look at that, and also
Speaker 3: look at the fact that I'm not just blaming Russia
Speaker 3: or taking a look at the US or the DNC
Speaker 3: buying influence. I'm telling you this is done all over
Speaker 3: the map, and indeed they're going to invest their money
Speaker 3: where they think it's best spent. So, you know, do
Speaker 3: I believe Russia buys influence in the all media?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 3: Do I believe Americans buy influence in all sorts of
Speaker 3: you know, or the American state? I should say not Americans,
Speaker 3: because you and I don't get a chance to you know,
Speaker 3: put in a bid.
Speaker 2: But the thing is that does our state get to
Speaker 2: do that?
Speaker 3: Sure they do, And anybody with a significant amount of wealth.
Speaker 3: Who wants to purchase influence is doing that. It's just
Speaker 3: like when people say, well, you honestly believed that the
Speaker 3: Russians wanted to influence our elections?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 3: And why wouldn't they influence any election that might affect
Speaker 3: them if they thought they could get a better outcome
Speaker 3: with their influence? And every state again, you think the
Speaker 3: Chinese are not doing this nice and quietly everywhere we go.
Speaker 3: Come on, let's be real. Who owns who? Instead of
Speaker 3: who made who? Is the biggest question here anymore?
Speaker 2: And how much of them do you own?
Speaker 3: Because can you purchase them outright for just a little
Speaker 3: bit of money? Does it cost you know, a billion
Speaker 3: dollars like you were telling me? And it's true, Joe
Speaker 3: Rogan has the two hundred and fifty million dollars a
Speaker 3: year or whatever, and gee, poor Howard Sterner only gets
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five. I think I haven't checked
Speaker 3: in a while, and maybe he's canceled now.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's hard to keep track. But the point is that
Speaker 3: do I believe it's short and do I also believe
Speaker 3: that billionaires are minted overnight in order to secure influence?
Speaker 3: When you think it's an optimal time to buy in. Yes,
Speaker 3: I do, and we're watching it happen in real time.
Speaker 3: Now do we know everybody's entire income?
Speaker 2: No, but we do know this.
Speaker 3: And I found this money when I tried to tweak
Speaker 3: back at elon Us on X when he said, gee,
Speaker 3: how does Elizabeth Warren have millions of dollars after only
Speaker 3: getting this much of a salary for so many years?
Speaker 3: And I said, well, get back to me when you
Speaker 3: ask about five hundred of those questions, Because there's about
Speaker 3: five hundred people in DC that seem to have gone
Speaker 3: in for, you know, a pretty decent paycheck, but they're
Speaker 3: earning enough that they walk out of that job with
Speaker 3: not only a great pension and of course whatever it
Speaker 3: is you know they could grift and graft and gifts
Speaker 3: they got throughout the years, but they also walk out
Speaker 3: multimillionaires or in some cases close to billionaires themselves, their families,
Speaker 3: their spouses, their kids, and they enrich a whole lot
Speaker 3: of people by being the representative from wherever. And I
Speaker 3: can't find a situation where if they stay in office
Speaker 3: for a little bit, whether it's the House or the Senate,
Speaker 3: that this doesn't apply. By the way, have you seen
Speaker 3: anybody not come out of there as a multimillionaire.
Speaker 1: No, I've seen people get kicked out early. There was
Speaker 1: that one guy in the wheelchair. I forgot his name.
Speaker 1: I think he's in your neck of the woods, but
Speaker 1: he was. He said something about Orgi's and cocaine, and
Speaker 1: they probably his own party, primaried him out of like
Speaker 1: the public. I forgot his name, Awthorn or do you
Speaker 1: remember that guy. There was another guy out in California.
Speaker 1: The same thing happened to him. He started asking a
Speaker 1: lot of questions and he was out in two years.
Speaker 1: And that the money they get for their they get
Speaker 1: like ninety of their pay until they pass away. It's
Speaker 1: just off the charts, the kind of money they make
Speaker 1: over time. So nobody complains like, Okay, well I'm out,
Speaker 1: but I'm picking up one hundred and fifty thousand year
Speaker 1: to pick my nose. It's crazy, But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they're all looting us through their family members. And I
Speaker 1: haven't come across anybody in Congress who isn't funneling money
Speaker 1: or wealth. There's some type of thing through either their
Speaker 1: wife or son or daughter or something. You know that's
Speaker 1: the default. That means they're all doing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't matter, by the way, which you know,
Speaker 3: because they go, oh no, the Democrats, Oh no, the
Speaker 3: re Listen. Bernie Sanders is doing just fine. Okay, the
Speaker 3: champion of the poor is doing just fine. He's got
Speaker 3: plenty of millions of dollars to go and he's not
Speaker 3: even done yet. I don't know how long he'll live afterwards.
Speaker 3: The guy's pretty old. I found the one, the one lead.
Speaker 1: He has better camouflage, Chuck, We should have done that ourselves. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you should have just had a better thing. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: doing it for the Peoper people. I'm totally concerned for
Speaker 1: the worker. I'm gonna go out and have public meetings
Speaker 1: just like you do, is traveling the country weeping for
Speaker 1: them your plight. And then you can take as much
Speaker 1: money from defense and big Pharma as you can and
Speaker 1: then defend big Pharma in public meetings. You know, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this whole you know, shot schedule is absolutely corrupt. Whoa,
Speaker 1: he's a better You gotta re appreciate the game. He's
Speaker 1: never worked like a real job in his whole life.
Speaker 1: He's like he's like the parasite off the state the
Speaker 1: guy's brilliant. I mean, he's got better. He's better than
Speaker 1: all these others. He doesn't look like a corrupt guy.
Speaker 1: Granted to me, he's one of the biggest parasites that's
Speaker 1: ever lived in this country.
Speaker 3: And he says a lot of good things like I
Speaker 3: like a lot of what he says until we get
Speaker 3: into vaccinations and nonsense like that. I like a lot
Speaker 3: of what he says, you know, about wealth, disparity about
Speaker 3: But that's the ironic part about it, right, He's perfectly cloaked.
Speaker 3: So let's go away from him and just take a
Speaker 3: look at Mitch McConnell. How well do you think he's
Speaker 3: going to do going into retirement. I bet you he'll
Speaker 3: be fine. He's not gonna have to worry about any
Speaker 3: glitches in his bank account for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, just shot his wife Chow I think her name is.
Speaker 1: That's where the money's going through. And he's probably running
Speaker 1: the office in my opinion, because he's not doing well it.
Speaker 3: You know what could very well be. I mean, who
Speaker 3: the hell was running Joe Biden for the last two
Speaker 3: years of his administration. I don't know, but I don't
Speaker 3: think it was him, you know, just saying I swing
Speaker 3: at both sides, So you know anybody who's going to
Speaker 3: be mad at me here, he's a Newtoyd Trump. I
Speaker 3: can't stand any of this stuff. I think we have
Speaker 3: way too much of it already and we need to
Speaker 3: reduce it. And that's why I almost want to side
Speaker 3: with this dose nonsense. Except one problem. The people that
Speaker 3: are doing this are not people that we elected or selected.
Speaker 3: They're not people that we even pretended to elect.
Speaker 2: And I don't know.
Speaker 3: Trusting the billionaire musk doesn't make sense to me if
Speaker 3: I'm on this side of the financial equation. I don't
Speaker 3: know why that is. Maybe it's just me and my
Speaker 3: old prejudices, but I gotta say, I thought a few
Speaker 3: years ago we were concerned about the technocracy rising. I
Speaker 3: thought people were worried about robots taking over our jobs.
Speaker 3: AI is okay, though, Isn't one pretty much the same
Speaker 3: as the other, except one as a physical form and
Speaker 3: actually becomes a little anyway? Is Skynet online? I'm not sure,
Speaker 3: but something is. And again I'm just saying, the overall
Speaker 3: willingness to believe that all of this is okay because
Speaker 3: my side won this time leads me to believe in
Speaker 3: the one party problem. I believe we're dealing with a
Speaker 3: uni party here that play their roles much like a
Speaker 3: wrestling match. And again, you know, the late night host
Speaker 3: cracked me up, you know, like the one guy who
Speaker 3: commented on Social Security recently and said, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't believe for a second we got two hundred year
Speaker 3: old people on Social Security, because if they were two
Speaker 3: hundred years old, they wouldn't need solid security. They'd still
Speaker 3: be in Congress. True, But also John Stewart, you know,
Speaker 3: going out and saying, look at the heel turn from
Speaker 3: John Cena, this is what's going on in politics now.
Speaker 3: He made the right analogy. I don't know if he
Speaker 3: made the right analogy about the right situation, but this
Speaker 3: is what we have at this point. Here's your good guy,
Speaker 3: here's your bad guy. At the end of the day,
Speaker 3: the same people are going to benefit. But you, the
Speaker 3: crowd out there, the ticket paying public, You have the
Speaker 3: right to root for whichever guy you think you want
Speaker 3: to root for. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: one corporation pays them. At the end of the day,
Speaker 3: one entertainment group actually benefits. Oh wait a minute, that
Speaker 3: sounds like what I was talking about earlier. We have
Speaker 3: a WWE reality, so it makes perfect sense that we
Speaker 3: should have some of them in the administration. I bet
Speaker 3: you if Vince McMahon wasn't so toxic socially right now,
Speaker 3: he'd be in there too.
Speaker 2: And I don't blame any.
Speaker 3: Of them, actually, because this is apparently what everybody wanted.
Speaker 3: But I find myself a little confused, William. You know again,
Speaker 3: maybe it's just me. What do you think.
Speaker 1: I think it's just crazy. I think it really is
Speaker 1: the uniparty. I think their interest is to perpetuate the
Speaker 1: system as is. They don't care about spending bankruptcy because
Speaker 1: they're all at the trough and they all made tons
Speaker 1: of money, And I think that's really it. So maybe,
Speaker 1: like you said, WWE just it's all sound and fury
Speaker 1: flooding the zone with the enemy, right. The Democrats are bad,
Speaker 1: the Republicans are bad, Big Orange Man bad. But they're
Speaker 1: just got their hands on the take and looting the system.
Speaker 1: So that's another good laundering system too. He starts their
Speaker 1: nng O and then gets you know, gets from the
Speaker 1: funding bills go straight to their family as ng O
Speaker 1: or nonprofit or some incredible stuff.
Speaker 2: Like, but how could you root for the Undertaker? Don't
Speaker 2: you know? Kine is like, I mean, I'm going.
Speaker 3: Back because I'm not up on wrestling anymore. I can't
Speaker 3: stand to watch it anymore. But you know, I'm almost
Speaker 3: feeling like I should because it really does tell us
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen next.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: If you take a look at the different turns the
Speaker 3: face versus the heel.
Speaker 2: And this is what we get.
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta you gotta believe in this because
Speaker 3: and they used to do this with a guy named
Speaker 3: Sergeant Slaughter.
Speaker 2: By the way, again going back to my.
Speaker 3: Childhood, where for some reason or other, you were chanting
Speaker 3: us a USA to a guy who never even served
Speaker 3: in the military, who was wearing a drill sergeant. Thing
Speaker 3: that's in order, And it's great to pretend, okay, but
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, we're all suffering down here.
Speaker 3: I don't see my prices changing, I don't see my
Speaker 3: world changing. And oh, by the way, you know, the
Speaker 3: Democrats are telling us how great the economy was doing.
Speaker 3: Now the Republicans are telling us how great the economy's doing.
Speaker 3: I need to ask you, William, how great is your
Speaker 3: economy doing? Is anything checking for you, because I don't know,
Speaker 3: you know, the past couple of years, all I see
Speaker 3: is award trend in my uh, you know, quality of life,
Speaker 3: and an upward trend in my cost of living, and
Speaker 3: yet they keep telling me how much greater it's getting
Speaker 3: every time one of them changes places. Are you seeing
Speaker 3: that or am I am? I absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I just paid ten bucks for a carton of eggs.
Speaker 1: I literally look at the eggs in my refrigerator and
Speaker 1: I do a cost benefit analysis whether I'm going to
Speaker 1: eat an egg or not. It never happened to that.
Speaker 1: Used to be my cheap go to right, Oh, I
Speaker 1: can make myself an egg sandwich for a buck or something.
Speaker 1: Now it's like each one of my eggs is a dollar.
Speaker 1: So I'd say no. And inflation, and I mean, there's
Speaker 1: just massive there's billions of dollars stolem.
Speaker 2: I am so glad. I am so glad.
Speaker 3: I was not drinking something when you said I'm doing
Speaker 3: a cost benefit analysis on the eggs, because you know what,
Speaker 3: you just voiced a private thought that I did not
Speaker 3: want to voice on my show or yours.
Speaker 2: And I'm doing exactly the same thing. If I go
Speaker 2: to the refrigerator.
Speaker 3: Before I open it, I think about the cost of
Speaker 3: what I'm about to pull out now anytime, and I go,
Speaker 3: am I really hungry?
Speaker 2: Or should I you know what? I can wait?
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a good weight loss thing, so maybe this
Speaker 1: kind of you know, privation is actually going to be
Speaker 1: an upside. I'm dropped ten or twenty pounds, like I've
Speaker 1: literally gone in like do I want to go to
Speaker 1: the store and get another one hundred dollars bill or
Speaker 1: should I eat some leftovers or just not eat? I've
Speaker 1: literally walked away. I just said I'm just not gonna
Speaker 1: eat anything. Yeah, I guess that's what it's like. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't see any real benefit for me or any
Speaker 1: I mean, I live in California. Everything's super expensive here,
Speaker 1: and nobody who comes to California stays, by the way,
Speaker 1: they all leave. So only the people in California who've
Speaker 1: had this kind of tyrannical economic system grew up around
Speaker 1: them stay because they're used to it. But nobody moves
Speaker 1: here from like uh, Minnesota or Florida and stays.
Speaker 2: They all leave.
Speaker 1: Because I've been here for twenty years, so I've seen
Speaker 1: that happen over and over so yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: just run by a toy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot you were in California. Let me you
Speaker 3: a deep question here, because Gavin Newsom, you know, you
Speaker 3: want to bring all this stuff together. Gavin Newsom has
Speaker 3: a podcast now.
Speaker 1: Right, Bannon was on it his second guest, right.
Speaker 3: Well, but you see he's bringing everybody to get It's
Speaker 3: so funny to me because this guy is supposed to
Speaker 3: be the evil villain of the left wing, and yet
Speaker 3: he's bringing all the right wing evil villain. It's like,
Speaker 3: is this the legion of doom?
Speaker 1: Now on the Kirk and Bannon ER's two first guests,
Speaker 1: guys from the right. What's he doing and why isn't
Speaker 1: he doing his job? Like literally, the whole state is
Speaker 1: going down the tubes. Crime is out of control. They
Speaker 1: had a fire that two hundred and fifty billion dollars
Speaker 1: in losses that nobody there's not like we should have
Speaker 1: like a commission to figure out what went bad so
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen again. That hasn't happened. Karen Bassi is
Speaker 1: the mayor of La has a recall and she hasn't
Speaker 1: acknowledged any fault. She has never says they're sorry either,
Speaker 1: And those people are not going to get their houses back.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was beautiful up there. A lot of
Speaker 1: people may not know that part of La Pacific Valsades.
Speaker 1: They don't know it because they keep it quiet. But
Speaker 1: it's actually nicer the Beverly Hills. It's right by the ocean,
Speaker 1: in the kind of Malibu area. But those people are screwed.
Speaker 1: They would probably pay five million dollars to anybody to
Speaker 1: have all their belongings back. They just don't even care
Speaker 1: about their house. But like everything's gone, all the keepsakes
Speaker 1: and all the valuables and all that stuff has gone
Speaker 1: due to incompetence and stupidity and negligence by political leader.
Speaker 1: So it's a disaster. California, at least in these urban
Speaker 1: areas is a disaster. It's a fourth World. I mean
Speaker 1: some of these places are dumb. I grew up in
Speaker 1: San Francisco and they've destroyed the city the left, So
Speaker 1: I have like a real visceral just derision and disgust.
Speaker 1: I don't hate them, they're so evil and pathetic, Like
Speaker 1: I just view them with like revulsion, like how could
Speaker 1: you do this? Like they don't believe in basic civilization,
Speaker 1: like you don't believe in having like nice streets with
Speaker 1: cafes where people are outside relaxing, walking safe, or mom
Speaker 1: can walk with their child and get from their house
Speaker 1: to the park. They don't believe in any of that.
Speaker 1: They don't believe in just basics, like that's incredible because
Speaker 1: they've let it all go and there's junkies on the
Speaker 1: streets and needles, and you know, it's not even funny,
Speaker 1: like it's just it's a fourth world and what they've
Speaker 1: done to a great city.
Speaker 3: A real you see, but again, it's not even the
Speaker 3: and everybody wants to blame the junkies. I gotta tell you,
Speaker 3: it's not the junkie's fault. And you know what, You're
Speaker 3: gonna go where you're gonna go. And that's the scary
Speaker 3: part of all this. And by the way, I sympathize
Speaker 3: with those who lost everything, you know, including the things
Speaker 3: that mean something to you. I mean, I've been I've
Speaker 3: been divorced, just saying you know, it happens, and I
Speaker 3: get it, and that's like a fire that goes through
Speaker 3: your life. And I understand uh, and believe me, you
Speaker 3: probably even with ashes, you ended up with more than
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: Uh, but jokes aside.
Speaker 3: Think about the weird dynamic that's going on there. And
Speaker 3: like you said, I thought the governor was you know,
Speaker 3: they tell me that's a very tough job to run
Speaker 3: a state like that. It's one of the largest economies
Speaker 3: in the world. There must be a lot of things
Speaker 3: to do. And this guy has the time to do
Speaker 3: what I do on the side. Okay, right, I don't know,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: It makes sense, make it makes sense.
Speaker 2: I would love to, I would know.
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole city. They it's like a running joke,
Speaker 1: this whole speed train that they've had where they've wasted
Speaker 1: billions of dollars. There's like one hundred billions of dollars
Speaker 1: miss and they have this one bridge in the center
Speaker 1: part of the state with no roads to it, like
Speaker 1: it's off the charts, like it's funny. And nothing gets
Speaker 1: done because it's a one become a one party state,
Speaker 1: so you don't have any inquiries, commissions, no legal stuff.
Speaker 1: It's happening at the federal level, thank god. But there's
Speaker 1: like massive criminality. Where'd all that money go? And it's
Speaker 1: there's other smaller things that have happened, like you'll see
Speaker 1: work sites in California, where like the pylons are up,
Speaker 1: the trucks that are there, and nobody's working, and it'll
Speaker 1: be like that for months. So like it has all
Speaker 1: of the elements of like a work zone. You can't
Speaker 1: find any workers. You go by every day, you don't
Speaker 1: know where the workers are. So it's just tons of
Speaker 1: money are being siphoned off right in front of your face,
Speaker 1: and nobody does anything. Nobody complains. It's just like people
Speaker 1: have given up hope. It's crazy apprecia.
Speaker 2: Hey, do you think you'll put this out by tomorrow
Speaker 2: or not.
Speaker 1: I'm putting it out right now. It's you're live. So
Speaker 1: we're live on rockfin X and Rumble right now. And
Speaker 1: then once we're done, we will I'll hit the end
Speaker 1: of button and I'll put the audio up and I'll
Speaker 1: send you a copy so you can.
Speaker 2: Put it up.
Speaker 1: If you like to put it up, great, I'll put
Speaker 1: it up on William Ramsey Investigators. Well, I actually don't wait.
Speaker 1: I don't like to wait because I lose I lose episodes,
Speaker 1: Like I've tried to track down interviews that I've done
Speaker 1: a month ago, Like why aren't you putting this up?
Speaker 1: So I just shoot it out right away, so.
Speaker 3: You're better off get it done, just get it out
Speaker 3: of the way. And I know that problem. I lost
Speaker 3: a couple episodes recently too, and I don't know where
Speaker 3: they went. But anyway, thankfully they weren't with you know,
Speaker 3: any I take extra time when I interview somebody to
Speaker 3: make sure I get it out there because I care
Speaker 3: about what it is they're promoting, and this is the
Speaker 3: only thing I want to promote. Actually, tomorrow night, I
Speaker 3: take phone calls. On every Friday night, I take phone
Speaker 3: calls from eight to ten pm Eastern. I'm live on
Speaker 3: mystream at ochelly dot com, free radio apps, all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Please call in and give me new ideas. This is
Speaker 3: what I'm looking to do, get new ideas about what
Speaker 3: to do with the platform. I'm looking for new hosts,
Speaker 3: I'm looking for new concepts. I want to fill this
Speaker 3: gigantic gap where people are not getting what it is
Speaker 3: they would like to get from their media outlets. Because
Speaker 3: I hear complaints and I don't see anybody offering a solution. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: everybody and their mother, as I said, has access to
Speaker 3: make a podcast, can make a broadcast, can go up
Speaker 3: on Twitter, can go up on Facebook Live can do
Speaker 3: whatever it is they want to do, and yet nobody
Speaker 3: is presenting this solution. So I say, let's come together
Speaker 3: and come up with some solutions. What do you want
Speaker 3: to see done. I'm willing to produce it, work with
Speaker 3: other people. Let's go, let's do the different thing. Let's
Speaker 3: get some actual alternative thought out there. So between eight
Speaker 3: and ten pm Eastern tomorrow night, I'll be taking phone
Speaker 3: calls Onoceelli dot com and I would love for you
Speaker 3: guys to join me there and tell me what the
Speaker 3: hell it is we could do that's different.
Speaker 2: Please, I want to do some.
Speaker 1: Thinks every Friday Chili dot com. Right so every Friday
Speaker 1: eight to ten pm Eastern, I'll put a link to
Speaker 1: your website and all that stuff. I mean, is there
Speaker 1: anything else you'd like to add, anything else you'd like
Speaker 1: to promote so you can see all the archives that
Speaker 1: all Chili affect you right now.
Speaker 3: Look, if you go, I'm scattered all over the place.
Speaker 3: There's only a couple of hundred of my shows probably available.
Speaker 3: I've done thousands. Contact me. I've got some archives on
Speaker 3: the site. Whatever you want, you can find me somewhere
Speaker 3: you won't find too much of me on YouTube though,
Speaker 3: because they took away all those channels and now I
Speaker 3: have one channel under my full name, and somehow I
Speaker 3: had to sign in with to stream yard with you
Speaker 3: with my YouTube channel.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: It's a new thing right anyway, whatever, I don't care,
Speaker 3: you know. But the point is that platforms I don't
Speaker 3: stay on too long. I have a speaker which has
Speaker 3: probably the largest amount of my archives out available to
Speaker 3: the public right now. But you know what, ask me
Speaker 3: and I'll mail them to you if you want. I don't,
Speaker 3: it doesn't my stuff goes out for free. I do
Speaker 3: shows every week, and I do multiple shows every week,
Speaker 3: but that Friday night call in show this week. I
Speaker 3: want to get those ideas, for sure. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: do that every Friday night myself and my co host,
Speaker 3: he calls himself be Pete, and we do it every Friday.
Speaker 3: And him and I have different political and social views
Speaker 3: for sure. But I want to hear from you guys.
Speaker 3: Call me, tell me what's going on, let me know
Speaker 3: what you think. And yeah, that's about all I got
Speaker 3: to say there. I'm basically done, you know, other questions.
Speaker 3: But I don't even want to promote I'm just having
Speaker 3: a good time talking to you and picking your brain
Speaker 3: a little because you've been at this a while and
Speaker 3: I want to know all we can do that's different here,
Speaker 3: I really do let's do something.
Speaker 1: Don't know, you know, I think that there's newer opportunities
Speaker 1: for like doing smaller bits to disperse things, easier to
Speaker 1: stream to other sites. So I found like streaming to
Speaker 1: multiple sites for me has worked, but there's a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like you're at a new
Speaker 1: horizon too with AI and all this other stuff. It's
Speaker 1: kind of a new step. But those value the value
Speaker 1: of your archives is incredible, Like my archives, people are
Speaker 1: still going through my archives. They're going through Keith Hanson's
Speaker 1: or visigoths archives, which are over at eight hundred. I
Speaker 1: think he had even more shows than that. You probably
Speaker 1: had thousands of shows. I just haven't been able to
Speaker 1: find all of them. But and like you know, become
Speaker 1: an archivist to a certain extent. But I think that
Speaker 1: those are the ways to kind of do it is
Speaker 1: just try to kind of get it out there and
Speaker 1: network for me has been good, like talking to people
Speaker 1: like you. It's been too long since we talked, But
Speaker 1: where can people reach out to you? It's on your website.
Speaker 1: You have a contact information there right.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, Look, if you want to reach out to
Speaker 3: me on X I answer that all the time. If
Speaker 3: you want to reach out to me, you can click
Speaker 3: the email icon on o'chelly dot com. That is the
Speaker 3: website I am maintaining, thankfully, and I was able to
Speaker 3: pay for it for another year. It's there, ye, thank.
Speaker 1: Youvim it's fully censored yet. Yeah, my YouTube channels are
Speaker 1: all a mess. But anyway, Chuck, it's great to talk
Speaker 1: with you. I will put links to your podcast and
Speaker 1: your website in the show notes so people can check
Speaker 1: those out. And again it's Chuck o'celly of the o'ceelly Effects.
Speaker 1: So thanks so much for your time and your insight.
Speaker 1: All right, let me just turn this off