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going to get to the Ted Cruz Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 1: Sound bites. We got two of them now.
Speaker 2: The full interview I think is dropping at some point today,
maybe in like another hour or something. But it highlights
the the in fighting that is occurring inside of the
Republican Party or I don't even know if it's MAGA
world or not, but this fight has been has been
percolating for a while because you have people who I
think believe themselves to be the standard bearers for MAGA
because their audience is MAGA and their audience tells them
that they are so awesome, and so they have now
sort of adopted this posture that they speak for Magaworld.
And it is quite it is quite the development to
hear people that hitched their wagon to the Trump train
and now call themselves more Maga than Donald Trump, to
the point where Donald Trump was even asked about this
and he said, like, I created this, No, I am this,
I'm the leader of Maga, which of course he is,
of course he is. It's so bizarre, but it ties
into this thing, this woke right.
Speaker 1: Fight.
Speaker 2: That that's what I mean by it's been percolating. That's
there's an element on the right that doesn't actually believe
in the Mega principles.
Speaker 1: They believe in other.
Speaker 2: Stuff, and they use the tactics of the Marxist dialectic,
they use the modern Bailey tactics. They use these things
either for grifting purposes or you know, to gain influence,
or in some more nefarious cases, in order to splinter
the Mega movement. And so they they've now had this
is their line in the sand, apparently, is the Iran
attack by Israel and Trump's roll in it. I said yesterday, like,
I do not want Iran to have nuclear weapons, and
I am with about eighty something percent of Trump voters
and like seventy percent of Americans, Iran should not get
the bomb, and I've heard some really stupid arguments over
the last forty eight hours coming from quote unquote conservatives
and libertarians about it, and I have to say, the
dumbest one I think is that, well, you know, Nantan,
Yahoo and Israel. They've been saying that Iran is you know,
close to getting a nuclear warhead. They've been saying it
for twenty years or thirty years. Yes, they have been.
They've been saying that, absolutely correct, and the critics point
to this as proof that those are lies, and they
ignore all of the things over the last thirty years
that Israel has done in order to thwart the nuclear
program in Iran. Right, Here's here's a riddle for particularly
Democrats that are now making common cause with a lot
of these woke right folks in opposing Trump, because that's
what it's about. For people on the left, it's about
just you know, opposing Donald Trump on anything that he does,
even if they agree that Iran shouldn't have a nuclear weapon.
And by the way, Democrats did agree with that until
about a minute ago. You know how I know that, well,
because they backed the Obama regimes jcpoa agreement which should
have been a treaty, but Obama didn't and run around
the Senate in you know, conflict with the US Constitution.
I would submit and did argue at that time, but
Democrats said, no, no, no, it's you know, this agreement
is going to put a pause on Iranian Uranian enrichment aspirations.
And of course it did not, because they really really
want the bomb. They want to be able to murder
as many Jews and wipe Israel off the map. That's
what they have said. That's what everybody knows. Everybody knows this.
Like I said, Democrats used to know it too. Most
Republicans understand it, most MAGA world understands it. Donald Trump
understands it. Donald Trump has been saying it for like
a decade and a half. They can't get a nuke.
So Israel like has obviously been planning all of this
stuff out from the initial response to October seventh, then
the hit on the Hesbala terrorists in Lebanon, and now
going after the command structure and the facilities that produce
not just the nuclear centrifuges and the bliss Stick missiles, right,
but also the weaponry that has been deployed through their
proxies through the Iranian proxies against Israel, but also American
troops when they were in Iraq. Hundreds, if not thousands
of American deaths are at the hands of the Iranians.
They don't like us, they call us the great Satan.
They chant death to America. Now you can choose to
believe that that is not true. You can choose to
believe that they didn't mean it, or that's just for
domestic consumption, and oh, you know those Middle Eastern countries
over the top rhetoric and all of that. See, but
I remember nine to eleven, And because I remember nine
to eleven, I say, yeah, you know what, I'm going
to trust them. Radical Islamists really do want to kill
non Muslims, particularly Israel and America. They really really want
to do it. And they can't find other Muslims to
murder a little bit closer to home, but like if
they can travel, they definitely they definitely like to kill
a lot of Jews. They like to kill a lot
of Christians. Africa is a good example of that. I
think I just saw there was another slaughter of Christians
in another African nation at the hands of Islamists. They
really like doing this. It's their jam, Okay, they are
compelled by their radical ideology to do it. So when
you have folks like that running a country and they've
made these promises, I think we should listen to them.
I think we should believe them. And I think Donald
Trump has actually Like I've made jokes for years about
whether or not Donald Trump is playing six dimensional chess
or whatever, and for the most part, I have rejected
that idea. It doesn't seem like he is playing these
these you know, deep level games.
Speaker 1: And stratagem and all this stuff.
Speaker 2: On this it definitely seems like he is playing a
different game than a lot of other people, particularly in
the magasphere that are detractors of him now and his
approach to this. How dare he stand by Israel? How
dare he support their action? How dare he participate in
the deception that allowed Israel's surprise attack to be so successful.
I think it's actually brilliant on the part of Donald Trump.
Let Israel do what they're going to do, and then
you can say, hey, come back to the table. We
offered you a sixty day window, you refuse to take it,
Like you've got maximum leverage now over Iran. All of
that being said does not mean that I'm advocating either
a American troops boots on the ground in Iran nation building.
Speaker 1: None of that. Israel's doing it. Oh what about the refugees?
What about them?
Speaker 2: People leave the country and the if the country falls
into collapse because of it, that's not our problem. Our
problem was the regime was working on a nuclear bomb.
Speaker 1: Oh that's what they said about Iraq.
Speaker 2: Yeah, except this is a little different because we have
now like forty years of evidence and the evidence and
this is like the Hillary Clinton server.
Speaker 1: But everybody on the left was like, oh, it's just
where's her emails? Oh, it's her emails.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, The smoking gun is the existence of
the server, and in Iran's case, because by the way,
you would not have the server unless you needed to
permanently delete emails, right, That's the only way you could
do that is to actually control the server. For Iran,
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struck a centrifuge production site in Tehran. After successfully intercepting
more than two dozen missiles launched by Iran towards Israel
in the preceding hours, over fifty Israeli Air Force jets
flew to Iran, where they struck a facility in which
centrifuges were manufactured to expand and accelerate uranium enrichment for
Iran's nuclear weapons program, according to the IDF, the Israeli
Defense Force. Okay, there is no reason to enrich uranium
past three percent if, as the Iranians have claimed in
the past, that they only needed for civilian energy production purposes.
Three percent is what you need, apparently, three percent enrichment.
By blowing past that, getting all the way to sixty
percent and knocking on the door of the ninety percent threshold,
which is necessary to create the weapons grade nuclear weapon,
well then there is no other explanation for why you
would do that except for a nuclear bomb.
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, last night is very weird.
Speaker 2: Let's see here, what did I do with it. There
was a I have so many papers in the stack
of stuff. There was a here it is. There was
no There was a tweet that the Iyatola, Oh, I
don't think I printed it did not print that. Hang
on a second, let me pull it up. The Ayatola
put out a uh komeny put out a statement. Sorry, yeah,
the Iranian state media quote, there is a surprise tonight
that the world will remember for centuries.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: First off, my initial response was, why are you announcing this?
That's not really a surprise at that point. That's like
inviting somebody to their surprise party and then yelling surprise.
You don't you say something is coming?
Speaker 1: You got this? Okay, Well, what was it? I don't know.
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem there. It doesn't seem that there was anything,
unless it was the launching of two dozen missiles, which
Israel successfully took out of the sky. Now, maybe one
of those missiles was some sort of a nuclear weapon.
Why do I suggest that. Well, last night the Iranians
released a seventeen second video and it's got some music
playing and it says in I think, in I don't know,
in two different foreign languages, maybe Israeli or why am
I drawing a Hebrew drawing a black on their language Hebrew,
maybe Arabic or I don't know if it's Farsi or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then in English it says, maybe that's it. Okay,
so that's all.
Speaker 2: It says, your music playing, it says maybe, And it
shows this close up of a what appears to be
almost like a cartoonish nuclear bomb. It's like a little
missile with the radioactive you know, the little three legged
thing or whatever, that symbol the nuclear symbol that's on
the bomb.
Speaker 1: And so it's this.
Speaker 2: Close up of a nuclear warhead. But then there's a
hand that comes in and the hand is like three
times the size of the bomb. So that's when you
realize the scale of this thing, that the bomb is
actually just like a little toy. It's like a toy
nuke or something. It's really small. And you see this
hand and it starts petting the bomb. It's petting it,
and it says maybe, So maybe that was the surprise
that we're going to remember for centuries to come. I
don't know, I'm not sure what the surprise was, but
they kind of left us hanging there and maybe like
I said, maybe they've got a very tiny nuke. Maybe
they've got a really small nuke. They're gonna, you know,
pack it in a lunch box someplace and send it
into Israel or America.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But see this kind of proves the point that they
are willing to use nuclear weapons, because that's always been
the deal about mutually assured destruction with like the Russians,
and I hear people talking about the oh, well, if
you know, the Russians and we have nukes and mutually
assured destruction is okay for us? Why not Iran? Yeah,
because like we weren't out there screaming that we're going
to nuke you. Like that wasn't our official government position,
you know, mutually assured destruction was we don't want to die.
Speaker 1: You don't want to die.
Speaker 2: So as long as we know that we can hit
each other first strike, second strike, third strikes, whatever, then
we're at Deatonte right.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be no movement. It's just a stalemate.
Speaker 2: But Iran doesn't care because again their religious ideology and
offshoot this branch inside of Islam that they believe that
the only way to bring about the end times is
to kill every Jew in Israel and a nuke does that?
Hence their desire for nuclear weapons since the very beginning.
This is not new, from the very beginning when they
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is from Karen. It's a Pete tweet. Karen says, I
don't understand why people cannot believe one Iran should not
have a nuclear weapon. Two we can and should support
Israel without American troops boots on the ground in an
unwinnable ground war. And three the Iran Israel conflict affects
US way more than the Russia you crane conflict does. Yeah,
it's all perfectly reasonable. Again, this is Israel protecting its
national interest. It is taking out a threat that has
been attacking it in various forms for the better part
of forty years. And they had, you know, with Hamas Hasbala,
the UTIs, they have they have used their proxies to
bring the war to Israel, and they've been doing it
for decades. And Israel says, you know what we're after
October seventh, We're done, We're done living like this. We
know where it's coming from, and we're going after all
of the operations. And they just started with Gaza. They
moved into Lebanon, they hit the houtis a little bit,
and now they're going into Iran and it's their national interest,
it's their call. And Iran has, you know, laid out
enough evidence against themselves for why a just war by
Israel is allowable. That's why you're not like, where are
all of the Muslim country likes? Oh, it's going to
spread into a regional conflict. What hasn't it already? Why
hasn't it? Nobody's coming to Iran's defense so far? Nobody's sorry,
the hooties like we got your back, like Russia abandoned
them almost immediately. Where's where are all these other countries?
Let me go over to Travis. Welcome to the program.
Speaker 3: How are you hey, mister Pete. I just wanted to
lay out what I see as the dominoes that kind
of define where we are right now and setting up
where we're going where I don't think we've fully thought
about where we're going at So the first domino is
Donald Trump's negotiating with Iran, right and at some point
he must have received credible information that made him think
Iran is negotiating in bad faith, correct, and he began
to work with Israel to you know, do what we
do now?
Speaker 2: I so, well, well, hang on, Travis, I would say
another another possible theory there is that he knew from
the very beginning that Iran was operating in bad faith,
but wanted to try to do a deal and just
told Israel hold off. So he may have known about
Israel's plans for a very long time and just said,
you know what, I'm going to do this, And that's
part of the deception that he engaged in.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, I think I think you would have
been happy with a deal, but I think you could
easily be right.
Speaker 1: Yeah either way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know, like you said, like you,
I'm just like, these are different, different ideas for what
could we could have seen.
Speaker 3: Well, the next domino on line is when you decide
to strike nuclear infrastructure. You know Iran's going to respond,
so you also have to take out their air capabilities
and the military installations, right.
Speaker 1: And the launch pads for their ballistic missiles.
Speaker 3: Yet and when you do that, now we get to
the domino where I don't think any of us really
could be expected to know because at this point came
to the weeds of Iran. Right, But inside Iran, you
have what's called Blakistan, right, it's the Blocki people, and
that's a region that borders that spans the border of
Pakistan and Iran. You have the curves in the northeast, northwest,
sorry northwest, and you have some Arab communities in the southwest,
and all of those have militant separatist groups that no
longer have to worry about helicopters or Iranian air force
taking them out. And I've seen that the Bloki nationalists
are starting to up their attacks on Iranian installation. And
what's interesting to me about that is that on the
Paki side of Blakistan, China has invested a lot into
the port of Guadar. And right now Trump is meeting
with one of the top ranking officials of the Packing military.
So who are the Blocking nationalists? Will they end up
being kind of a Chinese proxy in the area or
they seem the extremists? Who's rising next? And that's not
I'm happy to see Ran collapse, But what what's happening now? Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, And this is the problem with any kind of
toppling of a dictatorship, right, whether we do it, Israel
does it, or it collapses on its own, it doesn't matter.
In the aftermath of these dictatorships, particularly in the Middle East,
you end up with a lot of these blood feuds
that have existed for you know, decades or even hundreds
of years prior, and they then get into the score settling.
We saw it in Iraq right where you had the
different militias that rose up and they were fighting each
other in the neighborhoods and such. Yeah, like, nobody knows
what happens in collapse of a dictatorship. It's just there
are too many variables. And I make no predictions about
that either. But that being said that, it seems like
Trump has a limited goal, which is what Israel's limited
goal was, which was destroy the nuclear capability. And if
you do that and Iran says, okay, fine, we won't
pursue nukes anymore or whatever, and they can remain in power.
Speaker 1: I think that.
Speaker 2: I think both Israel and America allow them to stay
in power. I don't like Trump has made no argument
or no assertion that we're going to you know, topple
that regime and we're going to go in there let
alone and then nation build. That's not even on the table.
I don't think Trump is interested in doing that at all.
Speaker 3: I'm I would be interested to hear any Indian listeners
to your podcast who might or your show who might
have insight into Blakistan because that I agree that we
don't know where we're going, and I'm curious to know
where we're going. I don't think we're going to engage
in nations phil This is not Iraq two point zero.
We're not going to repeat that mistake.
Speaker 1: No, there's not. There's not support for it.
Speaker 2: And Donald Trump made you know, a lot of comments
about the Iraq war for years. He is not a
fan of that project. And so you got us out
of out of Afghanistan for the same reason. So, like
I genuinely believe when he says that he does not
like war, he wants peace. I believe him. And this
is a this, but it's peace through strength. And when
you have an enemy that is weaponizing uranium, developing, you know,
on one track and on the second track, developing the
ballistic missiles and cranking them out in production factories and
is threatening to nuke Israel and hit America with an
intercontinental ballistic missile, well you know what, I'm sorry but
the world is governed by the aggressive use of force.
And Donald Trump as an America First guy, the founder
of the movement that's America First, is to protect America
from that kind of aggression. So if we can take
out their nuclear capabilities, you've got a unique opportunity to
do it by letting Israel do it. So that's what
I think he's doing. I think it's very straightforward. Yeah,
you too. I appreciate the calll Travis. Yeah, there are
there are a bunch of different factions inside of Iran,
no doubt about a different ethnic groups. The Persians are
the biggest. They're like sixty one percent of the population.
There's he mentioned Blukastan or Balakistan b A l o h.
They represent two percent of the Iranian ethnic composition. You
got the Azerbaijanis they're about sixteen percent, Kurds at ten percent,
and then everybody else's single digits, Gilocks, Mezzanderani's two percent, Arab,
Turkmen and Turkic people at two percent. So the vast
majority sixty one percent are Persians. All right, if you're
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is Trump a neocon or maybe he's just being conned
by the neocons? Is that the deal is that what's
happening here that got to him somehow. He's no longer
the leader of MAGA because the neocons of condom or
he's been a closet neocon this whole time he lied
about not getting us into any wars. Because this is
what a lot of people, the influencer, the MAGA influencer
crowd is saying. And I think it would be different
if we had launched the attacks on Iran, right, but
we didn't. Israel did, and we're backing their play because
their goal eliminating Iran's nuclear program is Trump's goal and
has been America's goal for fifty years. So why wouldn't
we back the efforts to achieve our goal? Why wouldn't
we support that. People are making a lot of this
comment that Trump made about how you know they used
our equipment to do it. Of course they used our equipment.
They buy our stuff. That's what the military aid is for, Like,
they buy our stuff. So it's actually like the money
that supposedly like that goes to Israel, it goes to.
Speaker 1: Our defense contractors.
Speaker 2: Because they buy the military stuff from us, they make
changes to it and they upgrade it and they do
various things to it. But that's like, that's now supposedly
evidence that we're involved in it. Okay, but I mean,
if we're selling military equipment to Israel, why wouldn't they
use our stuff?
Speaker 1: Now? I think the real question that.
Speaker 2: Trump has to decide on is well, I guess he's
got two right. One is if Iran, as has been reported,
is now interested in coming back to the negotiating table,
does he entertain that? Does he try to do that?
But he sent out a tweet yesterday that said unconditional surrender.
And that is one way to go about doing this
if you're Iran, is to say we give up. We're
not gonna we're not gonna leave power, but we'll give
up all of the nuclear ambitions. We'll stop doing it.
Just make this all stop. That's one way they could
preserve their regime. I don't know if Israel would allow that,
but maybe Trump negotiates that kind of a deal.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: The other is do you make available or actually run
the flight itself with American service members? With that, I
think you would have to to drop these bunker busting
bombs on four doh, which is there the Iranian nuclear
facility that's buried, you know, ninety meters deep into a mountain.
And by the way, that's also a smoking gun. Like,
you don't do that if it's for civilian purposes. You
do that after the Israelis have taken out all of
your your centrifuges and your factories and stuff over the years,
and now you're like, we need to harden this target.
We need to make it impossible for them to stop
us from enriching uranium to weapons grade levels. And so
that's why you build a facility deep in a mountain
and encase it in concrete. So do you if you're
a Trump do you give the bunker Busters to the Israelis?
Do you give the b two bombers with the Aunker Busters?
Do you let the Israelis borrow them? Do you fly
the mission ourselves? Like what, I offer no advice on this.
I'm curious what you think because that would be like
that would be definitely involvement. That would be more involvement
if we're actually flying, if America is flying the flights
in dropping bombs on four dough now, I mean it's
definitely not on the same order as like, you know,
flying drones and whacking American citizens and foreign countries like
Obama did it totally different.
Speaker 1: This is just a facility, all right.
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