Speaker 1: Uh ah, what's up everybody? Hello, and welcome to Rose Pricks.
Speaker 1: I'm one of your hosts, Stephanie Wilder Taylor. In case
Speaker 1: you just stumbled in here with me, is Cecily Nobler.
Speaker 1: She's just a great person, also a film critic. Right now,
Speaker 1: I prefer Wilm. When did they turn Jewish? You're Jewish?
Speaker 2: Right, Stephanie? What I have a lot to say here.
Speaker 2: First of all, it's Cecily Wilder Nobler and you know that.
Speaker 1: Okay. I I feel unseen because I've told you we
Speaker 1: had a ceremony and everything. I just don't like you
Speaker 1: led with your being like I don't know Christian or.
Speaker 2: When did you turn Jewish?
Speaker 1: I then suddenly I don't know. It's like you're all
Speaker 1: of a sudden You're like, I'm Jewish, which it just
Speaker 1: surprised me. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we all have our own journey. I would say.
Speaker 2: That's what I would say if I was saying something
Speaker 2: but that I mean, I I yeah, I think we're
Speaker 2: all on our own path, right the path capital p
Speaker 2: inside joke.
Speaker 1: Okay, guys talking today Real Housewives, Orange County. I do
Speaker 1: not like Katie. I'm going to say it. I know
Speaker 1: you like her. I do not like her at all
Speaker 1: and vehemently opposed to her.
Speaker 2: Ooh, this is going to get good. I don't know
Speaker 2: that I love her lover, but I I macro note
Speaker 2: before we get into it. I had a big change
Speaker 2: as well. I had a big epiphany as well. Let's
Speaker 2: start with the Heather Terry just being annoyingly rich situation.
Speaker 1: They're so rich. Also, I just realized that Heather's tagline
Speaker 1: is just because I drink from a flute doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you can play me. And I'm not sure how I
Speaker 1: feel about that. Let's break it down.
Speaker 2: Let's break that down because I never noticed it, because
Speaker 2: I think I fast forward through their taglines. I can't
Speaker 2: handle it. It's another one of those things where it's
Speaker 2: like I don't want my neighbors to hear that I,
Speaker 2: you know how sometimes to self soothe. I watched every
Speaker 2: episode of Sex and the City like a hundred times,
Speaker 2: and I'm not exaggerating you guys, like I watch it
Speaker 2: constantly even still, and I am so embarrassed when they're
Speaker 2: like done, dun dunna, dunne. When that comes on, I
Speaker 2: just need it really fast, skip it, skip it. Let's
Speaker 2: skip because that looks crazy. In twenty twenty four, they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: she's still at it. But the same with house. I
Speaker 2: just don't want I don't want them to hear it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, I get it. Okay, So she says,
Speaker 1: just because I drink out of a flute because she
Speaker 1: likes her Champs, I mean she's made Champagne her entire personality,
Speaker 1: and calling it Champs is not doing her any favors either.
Speaker 1: It's not great. I don't love it.
Speaker 2: So she and then okay, just because it doesn't mean
Speaker 2: you can play me. So somebody, some producer, came up
Speaker 2: with that, as they do somebody. They don't usually come
Speaker 2: with it, you know, maybe they get some writers. She
Speaker 2: can't come up with that. No, So imagine she's being
Speaker 2: pitched different things, and that's the one. She's like, Yep,
Speaker 2: that's it. I love it. That's the one.
Speaker 1: They're like, Flute, we mean it in two ways. First
Speaker 1: of all, you're known as Champagne's your thing, that's your brand,
Speaker 1: so flute. But also, you can't play me because you're
Speaker 1: a battye. And she's like, I am, I am a battie.
Speaker 2: What if one of the suggestions They're like Okay, Heather,
Speaker 2: hear me out. We're just going to pitch you a
Speaker 2: couple ideas, and one of them is like, I could
Speaker 2: do better, and she's like, no, I don't like that.
Speaker 2: I don't like that. That feels like it's throwing Terry
Speaker 2: under the bus.
Speaker 1: It feels like, don't go to Terry for plastic surgery,
Speaker 1: go to the other guy. I don't feel like that
Speaker 1: is going to do Terry any favors. Will it do
Speaker 1: me favors? Yeah? But I don't. I think we can
Speaker 1: do better. Can you guys come up with some backups?
Speaker 2: It's me It's okay, Hi, Heather, I'm Heather, only Jew
Speaker 2: in town. I wish they would do something better like that,
Speaker 2: I'm the only Jew in Orange County.
Speaker 1: Well, you and I have always liked that movie Crazy
Speaker 1: People with Dudley Moore because of the funny It makes
Speaker 1: us laugh really hard that they came up with the
Speaker 1: ads that are just honest, right, they're boxy, but they're good. Yes,
Speaker 1: let's just say it like it is. Let's just do it.
Speaker 1: People would respond better to that. Yuh, Terry, I could
Speaker 1: do better, but he's rich. So Heather, I mean, we
Speaker 1: kind of like her. We can't help ourselves but like
Speaker 1: her a little bit, but she does make it difficult
Speaker 1: with her, like I don't know which of my multi
Speaker 1: million dollar penthouser mansions I should live in, so hard.
Speaker 2: She referred to her fifty three hundred square foot condo
Speaker 2: or whatever as her the most expensive closet ever. She
Speaker 2: called it a closet five thousand, three hundred square feet.
Speaker 2: And she's not. I don't know that she's joking.
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 2: She is ridiculous, and I didn't. I didn't like her
Speaker 2: this episode for a couple reasons. I told you that somebody, okay,
Speaker 2: someone I know used to work at Nordstrom way back.
Speaker 1: I think that this would come up like this. This
Speaker 1: isn't how that, this is why I'm constantly in Nordstrum.
Speaker 2: But okay. And she said she was doing makeup for people.
Speaker 2: And she said that both Heather and Tamera came in
Speaker 2: at different times, and that Tamra was really nice, believe
Speaker 2: it or not, she was really friendly and like down
Speaker 2: to earth and whatever, and that Heather was awful. Now
Speaker 2: that's not.
Speaker 1: Super shocking as far as like the way you might
Speaker 1: treat the staff or the help in whatever way but
Speaker 1: Heather was really not nice.
Speaker 2: I hate that, and.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. No, I'm just kidding. Of course,
Speaker 1: I believe that. Of course, I know breaks he of course,
Speaker 1: but I started to started to hit me in this episode.
Speaker 2: Was like, she's awful, She's that's why they all gang up.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't just randomly gang up on her.
Speaker 1: She's pretty awful. But I think that that's why I
Speaker 1: thought it was a little surprising that I like I
Speaker 1: think I like Katie even less. I just think it
Speaker 1: was so like, girl, what are you doing? What are
Speaker 1: you doing? This is just not you. You look ridiculous,
Speaker 1: you look crazy. I agree with you. So, okay, I
Speaker 1: have an actual argument with her if you want to,
Speaker 1: we'll we'll comfort you on that. But this is not it.
Speaker 1: This this I'm gonna I'm gonna get her with what
Speaker 1: with like? So, I mean, okay, so what if she
Speaker 1: called the paparazzi even if she did, who cares? How
Speaker 1: does it affect you at all? How does it affect
Speaker 1: your life? You're a thirsty motherfucker as well, So you're gonna,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you're going to prove that she's kind
Speaker 1: of thirsty. Then I believe Heather. I believe I was
Speaker 1: team Heather on that fight. I believed her, especially when
Speaker 1: she swore on her children. I don't think she would
Speaker 1: do that. I mean, I believe her.
Speaker 2: I just do. There's no way.
Speaker 1: I agree, and like the whole thing with but I
Speaker 1: agree with you and also like, Okay, so some guy
Speaker 1: that you say runs paparazzi for all of Hollywood. You
Speaker 1: asked him, oh, did she call the paps on herself?
Speaker 1: And he said, yes, that's what big, that's your gun,
Speaker 1: that's your that's your smoking gun.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. And why does Katie know have that guy
Speaker 2: on speed dial? As Heather said, exactly, I'll get to that,
Speaker 2: but before that, this also annoyed me.
Speaker 1: So Terry. They remind us that Terry had had a
Speaker 1: stroke a couple of seasons ago. I want to say,
Speaker 1: last this, do you already know you? So you watched
Speaker 1: that season?
Speaker 2: Yes, And they talked about in the reunion and it's
Speaker 2: you know, was very serious. But and then it goes
Speaker 2: back to Heather.
Speaker 1: She was like, but you know, we got him through it,
Speaker 1: and I just remember I couldn't break down. So we
Speaker 1: went on this very fancy vacation basically like there we
Speaker 1: are Bora, Bora, and I just finally broke down.
Speaker 2: I just finally had to let it all out.
Speaker 1: Oh healing. It was a healing journey for me for her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were into there. We are in Tahiti.
Speaker 1: I mean we finally got there. We got him through
Speaker 1: the stroke and got to the South Pacific.
Speaker 2: She didn't say that, but I'm just adding that because
Speaker 2: they went on like a fancy vacation and she made
Speaker 2: it all about her.
Speaker 1: She was like, they had this app, which sounds great.
Speaker 1: I'd like to get this app.
Speaker 2: I don't remember what it's called, but it was something helpful,
Speaker 2: something three sixty maybe something where you can just dial
Speaker 2: in number just I mean, I don't know why you
Speaker 2: just wouldn't call the police, just nine one one. But okay,
Speaker 2: it's fast. But then now she's like, so if there's so.
Speaker 1: Now we partner with this app, So if there's I mean,
Speaker 1: if there's just any way I can help others, Like
Speaker 1: it's such money in the process, Yes, exactly, it's what
Speaker 1: do you call it when it's like an associate deal
Speaker 1: like you know, and so now if you put this
Speaker 1: little code in anytime you order from Amazon, I'll get
Speaker 1: a little kickback, yes, but really it has to help you,
Speaker 1: not me. Oh, we really wanted to turn that into
Speaker 1: helping other people.
Speaker 2: It's like, it reminds me of affiliate.
Speaker 1: If you just hit this week affiliate link, we will all, well,
Speaker 1: you'll save lives and also I'll make a lot of money, right.
Speaker 2: More money, Like she needs money. And now we don't
Speaker 2: know for sure that she's making money off of it,
Speaker 2: but if she is, I hope every dollar goes to
Speaker 2: like stroke victims because they are billionaires, as she reminds
Speaker 2: us every week. And it reminds me of one.
Speaker 1: Camille on Beverly Hills was like had that Jesus complex
Speaker 1: where she's like, I just really love saving people.
Speaker 2: It's just something I love.
Speaker 1: It's like yeah, but also is if Terry had a stroke,
Speaker 1: is he still doing as many surgeries on people? I
Speaker 1: mean think he slowed down, but it didn't I don't
Speaker 1: think it affected I don't think he has like a
Speaker 1: shake or anything.
Speaker 2: I think he's okay. They I think what they're saying
Speaker 2: with the APP is that they were able to get
Speaker 2: him help immediately. But I mean with them also they
Speaker 2: can afford like a helicopter lyft, you know, right, right,
Speaker 2: but can't they do?
Speaker 1: So did she find him? Was he like on the ground.
Speaker 2: They were at dinner and he was acting really weird,
Speaker 2: like he was, you know, had a stroke. And I
Speaker 2: don't know exactly the details, but she said he was
Speaker 2: being She's like, we have to get you to the hospital.
Speaker 2: And she said he wasn't being himself. Oh, he was
Speaker 2: being like belligerent, like he was confused because he'd had
Speaker 2: the stroke. And I don't remember exactly what happened, but yeah,
Speaker 2: they were just out. So it is scary. So it
Speaker 2: is a good app whatever that is, we'll get I
Speaker 2: guess we'll we'll post it.
Speaker 1: If it's something three sixty, then it's probably life three
Speaker 1: sixty with an emergency that you, I think, and then
Speaker 1: they know they know your location.
Speaker 2: Although okay, there was one. It wasn't necessarily that one,
Speaker 2: but my dad had one of those, and after he passed,
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, a couple of days later,
Speaker 2: I'm in his place, like cleaning out his place, and
Speaker 2: they kept calling. They're like, we're getting where we got
Speaker 2: a put a button push like you guys aren't doing
Speaker 2: a great job.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, like that it's a little late. Yeah, I don't,
Speaker 1: and I don't know who, Like, I don't know who
Speaker 1: could have been, like somebody probably was sitting on it
Speaker 1: or something at some point later. I really don't know,
Speaker 1: but it was like, yeah, you guys are a couple
Speaker 1: of days late on this one.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: They're like, but do you want to keep the service going?
Speaker 2: They did, like do you need someone coming out? I'm like,
Speaker 2: well again, let me reiterate, no, right, no, thank you. Okay,
Speaker 2: So Tamra wants to drink at a dive bar. They're
Speaker 2: very excited to go to this dive bar.
Speaker 1: Okay, right before that, So can I ask you one
Speaker 1: more question about of course Terry and Heather. Did you
Speaker 1: feel like the scene was like do you feel like
Speaker 1: these two still have sex and are into each other
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't think that they have sex.
Speaker 1: Okay, can they have like a friendly relationship because they
Speaker 1: are kind of cute, like she made they make little
Speaker 1: jokes about like, you know, you made a little joke
Speaker 1: about her pooping not pooping there, which I thought was
Speaker 1: kind of funny for them, like, you know, for her
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, when the magic happens.
Speaker 2: Or something like. I was like, Okay, they do seem
Speaker 2: to like each other. They like each other. I mean
Speaker 2: maybe they have sex. He probably has. They kiss a lot.
Speaker 2: They're kind of handsy. But imagine, okay, imagine it's missionary.
Speaker 2: He's on top of you. Then that face, the plastic
Speaker 2: surgery face. Right, No, I agree, I mean at you now, No,
Speaker 2: I want you to really look. What makes this show
Speaker 2: kind of special is the porn. The porn aspect of it.
Speaker 2: I think is that we kind of really make you visualize.
Speaker 2: And if you're going to do a show County you
Speaker 2: have down, you have to think about it. You have
Speaker 2: to think what would that look like to have Terry
Speaker 2: on you.
Speaker 1: On top of you, pushing into you, and you're like,
Speaker 1: hmm okay, that would be a response.
Speaker 2: Oh well, you're just like, okay, what time is your
Speaker 2: next stuff? Right? You're like, you got to be at
Speaker 2: the hospital.
Speaker 1: I've gotta I got to get through this. We can
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: Come on, Well for the fifty three hundred square foot closet,
Speaker 2: I guess you just get through it. What's going on
Speaker 2: with his nose though, he had some sort of surgery
Speaker 2: to make it bigger, and I don't understand that. I
Speaker 2: don't think he did that on purpose? But was that
Speaker 2: like did he lose.
Speaker 1: A dare.
Speaker 2: Lose a bet?
Speaker 1: Did Paul do it? Was it his bet with Paul?
Speaker 1: And Paul's like, get over here, all right, put this
Speaker 1: mask on, You're going to just go to sleep. You
Speaker 1: wake up. They just do each other. If they like
Speaker 1: lose it golf the other it gets to do their
Speaker 1: They can just keep doing their face. I mean maybe
Speaker 1: it's too many peo, like something something went wrong there,
Speaker 1: but it's what is it my business? Do you know
Speaker 1: what it is?
Speaker 2: You know it is my business?
Speaker 1: Mm hm.
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Speaker 1: Yep, all right, so now let's yeah, let's go to
Speaker 1: the Katie Gina and Emily, what bar? Did you figure out?
Speaker 1: What bar?
Speaker 2: That was?
Speaker 1: Well? At first, it's so funny because I wrote down
Speaker 1: I can't even read it the way that they did it.
Speaker 2: I couldn't read it. It started with a bee. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I couldn't tell because it looked like a bar.
Speaker 2: I would like, didn't it seem like a Cecily bar?
Speaker 1: It kind of did. Yeah, but it's in Orange County,
Speaker 1: so we probably haven't heard of it.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I thought that they took that's why they took the thing.
Speaker 1: I thought they went into La because sometimes they do.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh the party bus, yeah, they were
Speaker 2: on a little bus. So it's only like forty five minutes,
Speaker 2: probably in Santa mont knows. Who knows, If anybody knows,
Speaker 2: let us know. It looked good to me, but I'm
Speaker 2: not going to Orange County for sure.
Speaker 1: But it did not look like the kind of place
Speaker 1: that specializes in espresso martinis. So I was already annoyed that,
Speaker 1: Like there's this big, burly, biker type bartender, and you know,
Speaker 1: he was just like, are you fucking kidding me? Espresso martinis?
Speaker 1: Come on?
Speaker 2: He did not look like he was having fun. No,
Speaker 2: the crew there, he was exhausted. You know, there's cameras,
Speaker 2: it's hot, it's whatever, and they're so loud and Emily.
Speaker 2: Emily kind of bugs me.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I say it as though that's the first
Speaker 1: time I've ever said it.
Speaker 2: She's just so loud.
Speaker 1: And just that no one's going to agree with you.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I know she Everybody freaking loves Emily,
Speaker 1: but I feel like Sherily pushed people, Like people don't
Speaker 1: really have feelings about her that much, but she's always
Speaker 1: bugged me.
Speaker 2: I just we wouldn't be friends. She's mean, she's mean,
Speaker 2: and she's just a lot like she's just like ah,
Speaker 2: like she just thinks, she just takes over the room.
Speaker 1: Yes, also her whole thing where they went to go
Speaker 1: pick up Katie and then she was just like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pee in the bushes because I don't want to
Speaker 1: go in there and meet her fucking kids. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: reminds me husband or right, or the husband right, which
Speaker 1: was weird. She kind of reminds me of Wendy mcclennan's
Speaker 1: character in Bridesmaids. Remember she's the front, she's the she's blonde,
Speaker 1: and she's just like really coarse all the time. And
Speaker 1: she's like, oh, come right, we're going to fucking Vegas.
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna whatever, if I'm the leaving town, I
Speaker 1: want Dix in my face.
Speaker 2: Right when she's talking about her kids and she's like,
Speaker 2: I have three boys that are twelve years old. I
Speaker 2: cracked a blanket in half.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, Yes, yes, yes, I feel
Speaker 1: like that's how Emily is.
Speaker 2: I never knew her name in real life. How weird
Speaker 2: because I've seen that movie like not one hundred but
Speaker 2: many times.
Speaker 1: Well, she's also from Reno nine to one one. She's
Speaker 1: just got that you know, personality and Emily. But the
Speaker 1: thing that made me mad about her saying like I
Speaker 1: don't want to meet Katie's husband is we all had
Speaker 1: to meet Shane and he's.
Speaker 2: No pride exactly. He's the worst guy ever on the show.
Speaker 1: Relax. He's worse than Brooks. Honestly, I would take Brooks
Speaker 1: in a heartbeat over Shane, and I know that that's Look,
Speaker 1: we don't have to do it either or but honestly,
Speaker 1: I would have sex with Brooks anyway, even if we
Speaker 1: weren't playing a game. Okay, just kiddy, Okay, hold on,
Speaker 1: Mary kill time, go ahead, Mary kills full time. Okay, Shane, Brooks, Terry,
Speaker 1: Oh you married Terry. You have sex with Brooks and
Speaker 1: you kill Shane immediately. That's the easiest one I've ever
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're good. I mean, how el what
Speaker 1: else thought about this? You've got to step that back.
Speaker 1: We got to step it up, Shane.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you the.
Speaker 1: Back to you. You want to have sex with Okay,
Speaker 1: you have you really do want to have sex with Brooks.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got it, I've got it. You can't. I'm
Speaker 2: changing it slightly. You can't. You have to have sex
Speaker 2: with one of these three. There's no Mary or kill Okay,
Speaker 2: so you either have to have sex with Shane, Terry
Speaker 2: or Erica.
Speaker 1: Jane's Tom Girardi. Oh, I'm having Terry. I'm having sex
Speaker 1: with Terry. He's fine. He seems like he's got a
Speaker 1: good sense of humor too, like we'd laugh.
Speaker 2: Do you mean fine like Foyne like he Foye?
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I guess I guess we all know where
Speaker 1: we stand. He's not horrible. I mean I guess I would.
Speaker 1: He's good enough for if he's good enough, if for Heather,
Speaker 1: he's good enough for me, because you know I love Heather.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I right, So all right. They go
Speaker 2: to this bar and uh, like I said, I do
Speaker 2: like the bar, and they're being very loud and obnoxious
Speaker 2: and it's just so funny how hard they are on Shannon,
Speaker 2: who did have a problem. Shannon did have it. She
Speaker 2: does have an issue that she should addressed, but they
Speaker 2: all kind of do. They're all ridiculous. I mean they're
Speaker 2: not driving. I give them that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're all like, well, in their fifties, and
Speaker 1: just so proud of themselves forgetting their drink on. You know,
Speaker 1: none of these bitches is feeling good the next day.
Speaker 1: There's just no way. I know a lot of women
Speaker 1: who are you know, who are not alcoholics, but who
Speaker 1: claim that nowadays, when you drink when you're slightly older,
Speaker 1: it's you can handle it even less. It's just harder
Speaker 1: on your body. You just don't feel well the next day.
Speaker 2: I'm usually one and done. I can't have more than
Speaker 2: one margarita where I feel sick. I have one and
Speaker 2: then it's fine, and then there's a couple drinks I
Speaker 2: can have maybe two of but that's it right. Otherwise
Speaker 2: it's headaches. And I've always sort of been that way.
Speaker 1: And you're still and you're not even gonna want to
Speaker 1: do that, like every.
Speaker 2: Day, You're just not going to feel great, and I'm
Speaker 2: not going to do shots. I think Heather doesn't do it,
Speaker 2: by the way. I think she pretends she'll have her
Speaker 2: little martini and watch them get drunk. I don't think
Speaker 2: she ever loses control. But she can drink a lot
Speaker 2: of champagne, which that gives me a headache. I can't imagine.
Speaker 2: And that much.
Speaker 1: Chance, Yeah, well, maybe she's not drinking a lot of champagne.
Speaker 1: Maybe she has a glass, right, and she probably has
Speaker 1: some steak and dom or something she really does, so
Speaker 1: she Yeah, Okay, so they're all Now this conversation comes
Speaker 1: up about Heather and Katie, the paparazzi conversation that we
Speaker 1: talked about before. Yeah. I mean these women, all of
Speaker 1: them are like obsessed with this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well it's the storyline, right, but it's.
Speaker 1: Such a stupid storyline. It's a ridiculous storyline. If I
Speaker 1: was Heather, I would be like, oh, this is child's play,
Speaker 1: Like this is all you got, Like this is what
Speaker 1: you're going to bring it totally.
Speaker 2: So they're having and I agree with you. I literally
Speaker 2: wrote down Katie's nuts and Gina okay, here's where my
Speaker 2: big macro. And again, this isn't going to shock anyone
Speaker 2: because I think I said it last week. But Gina
Speaker 2: is the hero that I didn't know I needed. And
Speaker 2: I can't believe there was a moment that I was
Speaker 2: not on her side. Jen really bugged me this time.
Speaker 2: I can completely understand every I think Gina had every
Speaker 2: right to yell at her, and I think I love
Speaker 2: Gina again.
Speaker 1: Well, what happened? What made you feel that way?
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I love that she defended Heather,
Speaker 2: even though I don't love Heather. Gina as loyal as fuck.
Speaker 2: She doesn't like it when you know she's not on
Speaker 2: the She's usually on the right side of stuff. So
Speaker 2: Katie's just being ridiculous and they're all antamra. Everyone's ganging
Speaker 2: up against Heather because they do it every chance they can.
Speaker 2: They probably are a little jealous, and Gina keeps her
Speaker 2: cool about her. She's also someone like I feel like
Speaker 2: we'd just be friends with her. I like her, I
Speaker 2: think I love her. I think I'm in love with her.
Speaker 2: I think I'm falling in Like what specifically did she
Speaker 2: say that you were?
Speaker 1: Like? Okay? Was she when she was?
Speaker 2: She just always seems to have her wits about her.
Speaker 2: She's not, you know.
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 2: I like the things she's doing with Travis. I like
Speaker 2: that she took a chance, she took a gamble to
Speaker 2: make their relationship better, but wanted to stand on her
Speaker 2: own two feet, even though I think she used them
Speaker 2: a little bit when she needed it. Not great, but
Speaker 2: I at it, and I just I don't know. She's
Speaker 2: just cool. Yeah, and I like her, and you know,
Speaker 2: she's showing her her storyline. She's not really trying to
Speaker 2: hide anything. She never really has, right, right, I like
Speaker 2: that and I like that she So she and Heather
Speaker 2: became friends last season because of course they're both from
Speaker 2: New York. You know, they have and they're both the
Speaker 2: smart people in the room. They're not because of New York,
Speaker 2: but they're the you know, they're of course they would bond.
Speaker 2: But Gina was very open last season about how sometimes
Speaker 2: she was annoyed that Heather didn't couldn't read the room.
Speaker 2: She felt a little less than every time she was
Speaker 2: around her because of how you know, right, but she
Speaker 2: flaunts it. So they had that conversation too. I just
Speaker 2: I like her, that's all.
Speaker 1: So they're all having this conversation about the did the paparazzi?
Speaker 1: Does Heather call the paparazzi?
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 1: And what's her name? Katie is like, yeah, guys, I
Speaker 1: know for a fact that she called the paparazzi, And
Speaker 1: then of Tamras like you do. Because I've been trying
Speaker 1: to prove this, like you know, this has like been
Speaker 1: my thing. I'm really trying to prove this and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: don't worry because I literally have the proof, and she's like,
Speaker 1: you do what She's like, got a screenshot, which we're
Speaker 1: gonna find out later is a screenshot of nothing. It's
Speaker 1: a screenshot of her, some random person going, yeah, that happened,
Speaker 1: So a screenshot of her. I want to see the
Speaker 1: screenshot of the paparazzi guy, of a news outlet guy
Speaker 1: showing her texting and saying, Hey, come to Disneyland.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be there, because that's what Heather says
Speaker 2: on Watch what happens, because she's like, what, you're gonna
Speaker 2: believe some random guy named Mike who we don't know,
Speaker 2: some faceless guy named Mike, right, oh right. Although I
Speaker 2: do think it's a technicality. I do think maybe that's
Speaker 2: not the word I'm looking for, But Heather did something.
Speaker 2: I don't think they were just going to get a picture.
Speaker 2: I think she didn't. I think she didn't really call them,
Speaker 2: So that was she's being accused of, is calling the
Speaker 2: paps so she can swear on her kids because she
Speaker 2: probably didn't call them. But maybe Terry did you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, somebody did. I do believe that's a
Speaker 2: staged photo. Oh it's a totally staged photo. But I
Speaker 2: think I think the whole point of like, Okay, if
Speaker 2: you want to prove that Heather's cheating on Terry and
Speaker 2: their marriage is a sham and she's pretending to be
Speaker 2: happily married and she's not, that's one thing, but like
Speaker 2: your whole thing, you want to bring her down because
Speaker 2: like she might have called the paparazzi to because she
Speaker 2: was going to Disneyland, because she's trying to promote herself
Speaker 2: as a frickin' personality.
Speaker 1: Well what is your goal? Like why are you trying
Speaker 1: to make that your whole personality that Heather sucks?
Speaker 2: You're promoting the whole show. If Heather gets packed, you
Speaker 2: all get packed, right, good for the show?
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, it's the dumbest shit ever. It's so stupid.
Speaker 2: I can't believe, Like you're right, and it's drummed up
Speaker 2: by something to Katie that's all she got, or maybe
Speaker 2: she's trying to be nice also this whole.
Speaker 1: Thing like later, and I do think that Heather's the
Speaker 1: part that I think Heather is kind of fibbing about. Later.
Speaker 1: It is going to come up later, so we'll get
Speaker 1: to it. Later, but I think Heather's just not Heather.
Speaker 1: Katie is just ridiculous, Like what, you look stupid, right, right?
Speaker 1: They all look stupid there At this point, they're doing
Speaker 1: crazy shots. There's a point where Tamra does a confessional
Speaker 1: and she says something like I don't want to be
Speaker 1: in a white Snake video. Did you hear that? Mm hmmm?
Speaker 2: That really hit me as she did not say that.
Speaker 2: That was such a producer line. We've talked about this
Speaker 2: a lot, and these confessionals. Producers write their stuff. They
Speaker 2: make you say stuff. When I was on Best Week Ever,
Speaker 2: sometimes they'd want me to say a certain line and
Speaker 2: I would just say it like I said it, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: It's really coming straight from the writer, you know, right.
Speaker 2: And sometimes and so I feel like Tamar, yes, she
Speaker 2: would fit in with a white Snake, like she'd know,
Speaker 2: but the way she said it, it sounded like she
Speaker 2: didn't even know what white Snake was. She's like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to be in a white Snake video.
Speaker 1: You know. When I was on the show Succession and
Speaker 1: on Succession, huh. I was on Succession and I was
Speaker 1: playing myself kind of a finance girl, and wow, I
Speaker 1: did they would write me lines and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean I could say the thing that like I
Speaker 1: would normally say in this situation, but like if you
Speaker 1: would rather I said a line that you wrote and
Speaker 1: they're like, no, we we were winning Emmys for like
Speaker 1: the writing, and I was like, okay, I mean that's fine,
Speaker 1: and I would just say it. I would just go
Speaker 1: along with it. I'm like, well, you guys know what
Speaker 1: you're doing.
Speaker 2: Did you play Shiv?
Speaker 1: Because I am really confused right now because I've watched
Speaker 1: I Love Succession.
Speaker 2: We talked about it on our show, like we reviewed it. Monroe.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I yes, in a way.
Speaker 2: Okay, in what way though?
Speaker 1: Like what in the way of I played Chiv's friend?
Speaker 1: But sometimes I would listen. I don't want to talk.
Speaker 1: This isn't a show about me.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, though, But I feel like we can't
Speaker 2: just like skip over this because you know that was
Speaker 2: both of our favorite shows.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't want to say anything because you get
Speaker 1: so jealous. It's like, yes, you are very competitive about
Speaker 1: about film and TV my film and TV roles.
Speaker 2: Huh, But I don't. I'd never even known of any
Speaker 2: of them. I feel like.
Speaker 1: That's just I just wish. I just wish that you
Speaker 1: were more willing to look at yourself.
Speaker 2: Well, you know when I was on Friday Night Lights
Speaker 2: and I asked you time and time again, come to
Speaker 2: the set, come meet Kyle Chandler, hang out, and you
Speaker 2: were like, no, thanks, because you didn't.
Speaker 1: And then they even said they because I hadn't seen
Speaker 1: the show. I didn't think I was going to be
Speaker 1: able to like understand what was happening. You were never
Speaker 1: able to see the show. But what it really is
Speaker 1: is you auditioned and you couldn't do the Texas accent.
Speaker 1: You tried, and they were like, you can't hire your
Speaker 1: frand I'm so sorry, even as just like a favor
Speaker 1: to you, I know you've asked for so little. You
Speaker 1: bring so much to the show, they said, and you
Speaker 1: ask for nothing in return. And I was like, could
Speaker 1: you just give her one line at like a lunch
Speaker 1: room scene or something, and they said no, But they honestly,
Speaker 1: they thought your look was great. They thought you were
Speaker 1: very pretty, but they were just like.
Speaker 2: She can't act.
Speaker 1: Oh so sorry that this is all coming out right now,
Speaker 1: Like this is probably not the time. We should probably
Speaker 1: just talk more about this in more depth. Like on Patreon,
Speaker 1: maybe on Patriot, Yeah, please join that. Sorry, my back
Speaker 1: door is open now because there's a dog issue.
Speaker 2: So sorry, if you can hear that, it's a very
Speaker 2: professional show. So meanwhile, Shannon, Meanwhile, Shannon's house, Vicky a nightmare.
Speaker 2: VICKI comes over. Just when we think we're done with Vicky. Okay,
Speaker 2: did we finish?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't quite finish because we just I just
Speaker 1: because this is going to come back later. And this
Speaker 1: is the part that really upsets me. So Katie tries
Speaker 1: to make an even bigger deal about the fact that
Speaker 1: Heather tagged her in the Instagram.
Speaker 2: Post yes, which bissed us off last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I but I also this is where I
Speaker 1: already was like, okay, but why did Heather try to
Speaker 1: deny that? Because they show Heather at this This is
Speaker 1: the scene where they show Heather going like basically, Heather's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you tagged me this Instagram post and then Heather goes,
Speaker 1: that's so weird because I don't even follow you. I
Speaker 1: guess I accidentally went to tag like givonchet and it
Speaker 1: tagged you. And then all the girls are like, did
Speaker 1: I pronounce that right?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Either may like you know whatever she says, and then
Speaker 1: it tagged you, and then the girls are all like, well,
Speaker 1: it's would be kind of weird, difficult to impossible to
Speaker 1: tag somebody you don't even follow. Then I thought, and
Speaker 1: I wrote this down for myself, that probably Heather did
Speaker 1: follow her or her social media person followed her because
Speaker 1: they knew she was gonna get followed Katie because she
Speaker 1: was getting cast on the show, And probably Heather's social
Speaker 1: media person tagged her, which is a normal thing to do.
Speaker 1: Why would you not tag your fucking cast mates? So
Speaker 1: I don't you know why Heather? Yeah, her issue is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And then maybe the reason that Heather is denying stuff
Speaker 1: is because Katie's trying to make it seem like she
Speaker 1: fucking committed some kind of crime. So maybe she was like, well, whatever,
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to do that. But if Heather thought
Speaker 1: about it for one minute, why wouldn't she should just
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, yeah, I tagged you. Aren't you fucking
Speaker 1: happy I tagged you? Right, I'm way more popular than
Speaker 1: you are and I'm on the show. Don't you want
Speaker 1: to be part of this cast? Of course I tagged you.
Speaker 1: Who cares?
Speaker 2: It's so dumb. It's so dumb that it's like not
Speaker 2: worth It's not worth Heather's time, it's not worth our time.
Speaker 2: She's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: No, but I wish Heather would just own it and
Speaker 1: just go like, yeah, bitch, I tagged you. Aren't you happy?
Speaker 2: Right? And I think that's why Heather's telling the truth
Speaker 2: because you probably didn't, like you said, it's a social
Speaker 2: media person, which she has, and she's like, I don't
Speaker 2: I don't even know what you're talking about, right, exactly,
Speaker 2: I don't have time for that shit, right I do, Heather?
Speaker 2: It doesn't okay.
Speaker 1: So then over at Shannon's, Oh god, I mean, did
Speaker 1: you just I felt sick to my stomach when VICKI
Speaker 1: walked in just from the pits of hell. Also Vicky's
Speaker 1: filter and Shannon, the way they have this filter going.
Speaker 1: You know that they probably wrote it into their contract.
Speaker 1: It's so so bad, like you and I would never
Speaker 1: even have that on our zoom let alone, like on
Speaker 1: a TV show. It's so bad that it just looks
Speaker 1: like eyes, looks like dark eyes on like a pink orb.
Speaker 2: I didn't even notice that they can just do that,
Speaker 2: so just them and nobody else has that so they
Speaker 2: have a deal. I thought it was just her face
Speaker 2: lift that made it look like she didn't have any eyes,
Speaker 2: because her eyes are like all the way back in
Speaker 2: her head. They're so far back because her fillers are
Speaker 2: so big.
Speaker 1: Now, no, the makeup is so so so strong, and
Speaker 1: then you can't really see any defined lines on their face.
Speaker 1: It's so weird. I mean, what a night So first
Speaker 1: of all, she comes over and she's like, so, there's
Speaker 1: pus coming from my stomach. But I check myself out
Speaker 1: of the hospital because I'm so busy. I've got to
Speaker 1: keep going. I'm a ti day girl, first of all. Okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm so broke. I'm just so so broke that
Speaker 1: it's everybody's fault that I'm broke.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, she's mad because they have their tray of
Speaker 2: me gos. I mean, let's break that down for a second.
Speaker 2: What in nightmare? So obviously they're trying to do like
Speaker 2: a countess leu Anne Cabaret. They're trying They've seen other
Speaker 2: people do these shows like lu Anne's, which is supposed
Speaker 2: to be amazing. And next time it's in town, we
Speaker 2: are going.
Speaker 1: I'm in my friend.
Speaker 2: I have a friend who directs it so like I
Speaker 2: could could have gone last time and I wasn't able to.
Speaker 2: But so there's that.
Speaker 1: And then Sonya has a little weird burlesque show she does,
Speaker 1: which I can't imagine, I know, but it did okay,
Speaker 1: not as well as Luanne. So they're trying to do
Speaker 1: like the State, like a variety show. I mean, can
Speaker 1: you think of anything worse than these three old ladies
Speaker 1: trying to be funny, trying to do improv and music
Speaker 1: like it's horrible, but also the whole idea of it
Speaker 1: being trace amigos, which is like a tequila isn't bad taste? Now, yes,
Speaker 1: but Shannon got in a drunk driving accident and like
Speaker 1: almost killed herself, her dog. We had a building, and
Speaker 1: so now you're going to be glorifying like a tequila brand,
Speaker 1: which okay, I have a question because I forgot So
Speaker 1: Tama's the one who removed yourself from this.
Speaker 2: Why again? Was it?
Speaker 1: Because because yes, because she was just like it's gross
Speaker 1: because at that at that appearance, that's when Shannon was
Speaker 1: like getting drunk at the appearance and she was just
Speaker 1: like this is just a terrible look. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be Pink was like Nope, let's do it. Let's all,
Speaker 1: you know, all hands on deck, let's keep going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Shannon needs the money, and Vicki now needs the
Speaker 1: money because she's not on the show anymore. So now
Speaker 1: they're all mad at Tamra for like Tamra's like, I don't, bitches,
Speaker 1: I don't need to do it. I'm on the fucking show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they you're right, so they do sort of need it,
Speaker 2: she Shannon announces, or not really. They set up a
Speaker 2: scene where she gets Vicki to ask her, like, what's
Speaker 2: going on with John Jansen? You know, they have to
Speaker 2: have that scene on camera, so she'd be like, he's
Speaker 2: suing me for seventy five thousand dollars, right, why aren't
Speaker 2: you curious?
Speaker 1: No? And Vicky's like, he's such a bum. I mean
Speaker 1: he is awful. I have no idea. Maybe because of
Speaker 1: the car, maybe because of the wreck. Do you think
Speaker 1: it's something like could he say he was in the
Speaker 1: car right or no?
Speaker 2: He wasn't in the car.
Speaker 1: No. He was the one who was like you're drunk.
Speaker 1: You're like, you're an asshole right now you're going to
Speaker 1: drive drunk? And she was like, oh, something hurt. Maybe
Speaker 1: he got or he wasn't antle No, she was at
Speaker 1: his house. She got mad at him. She was you know,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: Sorry, it was a different thing where Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: thinking for a second he was in the passenger seat,
Speaker 2: but I don't know what he's doing for. Maybe she
Speaker 2: borrowed n Let's look at it now. Yeah, let's do
Speaker 2: that while you're looking that up.
Speaker 1: Okay, John, is how do you Speaame Jansen?
Speaker 2: Suing when Stephanie is googling something. I like to try
Speaker 2: to keep the show going, but she likes to she
Speaker 2: has to read the Google like I could tell you
Speaker 2: another story while you're googling it.
Speaker 1: I got this already. Okay, let's go. Okay, So John Janssen,
Speaker 1: hold on, I got a cough. Oh seventy sick you guys, Okay,
Speaker 1: still doing this for you? Uh claiming, He claims that
Speaker 1: the reality star breached their oral contract and is committing
Speaker 1: promise sary or promisory fraud by purposely not paying him back.
Speaker 1: So she has him money, lock him. I hate him.
Speaker 1: He lent her Oh tea, I have tay okay. Uh.
Speaker 1: He says they weren't a good fit before. This is
Speaker 1: what he told page six, I tried very, very hard,
Speaker 1: but we were never meant to be together, and then
Speaker 1: he says okay. Following two twenty twenty three split they
Speaker 1: turned things turned nasty. He reportedly sued Badoor for money
Speaker 1: she allegedly borrowed for a facelift. He reportedly lent her
Speaker 1: forty thousand dollars via wire transfer in twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: for the facelift and another thirty five thousand via personal
Speaker 1: check the following year.
Speaker 2: Why would she call us money? She has David's money.
Speaker 1: However, Badoor claims the money was a gift and never
Speaker 1: meant to be repaid. Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe Shannon on that one. I have to
Speaker 2: tell you, I really don't like John Jansen. I believe
Speaker 2: her because she she has that money.
Speaker 1: Why is she accepting from a guy that she's just
Speaker 1: dating seventy thousand dollars to get a facelift. It seems
Speaker 1: weird to me.
Speaker 2: It's weird. All of it's weird. But she's got money.
Speaker 2: I mean, David gives her a shit ton of money.
Speaker 2: She like, you know, I know, didn't she downsized? She downsized.
Speaker 1: She still lives in a really nice place and she's
Speaker 1: paying for the kids, her kids to go to college.
Speaker 2: Well doesn't David also pay for I love that, we
Speaker 2: said David. David, David, da David David David David. She's
Speaker 2: doing miss David right now?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. She she can't get along with anybody, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's got some stuff.
Speaker 2: We know, we know that. And the real hero of
Speaker 2: the whole thing, I said it was Gina. It's Archie
Speaker 2: one Archie, this poor dog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has been through. Vicky has been through so
Speaker 1: much as Vicky's just going on and on. And then
Speaker 1: they call their like agent or their director of their
Speaker 1: now just they don't even know that it's not Trey
Speaker 1: Amigos anymore amigas. So they're like okay, and they have
Speaker 1: a little song prepared for this guy and Harris not
Speaker 1: having it.
Speaker 2: It's just like what has happened to my life? Why?
Speaker 1: It's like a job. It's like just the two of us.
Speaker 1: We're tussed, the two and we're drinking and we're singing
Speaker 1: and we're tap dancing.
Speaker 2: And then he just like turns his zoom off.
Speaker 1: Yes see him? Yes, so walks into the ocean. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Jen is with her boyfriend.
Speaker 2: She right on to them.
Speaker 1: But also we should say the fact that puh Paris
Speaker 1: Shannon got a letter from the lawyer saying that she
Speaker 1: owes him seventy five thousand dollars, and Vicki's mad on
Speaker 1: her behalf because she's like, you paid for all his
Speaker 1: first class air tickets and his meals and like he
Speaker 1: doesn't even work or whatever, which I just think is funny, because, Okay,
Speaker 1: so if he doesn't work, how was he in the
Speaker 1: position to be lending you the money.
Speaker 2: You're complaining lending as a gift. Where she's saying, so,
Speaker 2: how's he in a position to give you seventy five
Speaker 2: thousand dollars?
Speaker 1: Right if he doesn't work, And why would you be
Speaker 1: the one paying for all of his airline tickets and
Speaker 1: meals and then you don't have money to pay for
Speaker 1: your own facelift? Why are you taking money from him?
Speaker 2: Let me push back, okay, because if she is paying
Speaker 2: for all that and he wants it, and she wants
Speaker 2: a facelift, and he's like, let me give that to
Speaker 2: you for Valentine's Day or whatever the hell they do,
Speaker 2: then maybe you would take it. If she was sort
Speaker 2: of taking care of most things.
Speaker 1: Well, let me say this, it's not super easy to
Speaker 1: sue somebody. You have to have some kind of proof.
Speaker 1: So if he's saying there was a promisory note, either
Speaker 1: he's completely forging it or she's crying foul over something
Speaker 1: that he's going to be able to prove in court.
Speaker 1: Why else would she If it was a gift, okay,
Speaker 1: well then she'd have to prove that.
Speaker 2: Judge Judy would say, you know, she's another hero of mine.
Speaker 2: She would say, she doesn't like to play house. So
Speaker 2: if they're not married on them. She didn't like it
Speaker 2: if somebody sued.
Speaker 1: If somebody was in a relationship and they lived together
Speaker 1: for a long time but they didn't get married, so
Speaker 1: they weren't legally bound money.
Speaker 2: Wise or otherwise, she would get mad. I mean, yes,
Speaker 2: it wasn't on the level of seventy five thousand. The
Speaker 2: cap on that show is five thousand. This is important, right,
Speaker 2: But they would sue each other for things, and she'd
Speaker 2: be like, well, you're playing house, that's on you. She
Speaker 2: was very annoyed by things like that because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he probably did buy her a facelift, but somehow, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know how that's going to play out. But
Speaker 2: she even said, well, I can't take him to court.
Speaker 2: That's going to cost more than the seventy five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Right, Why is she having so much plastic surgery? Why
Speaker 1: are these people spending if she doesn't have that kind
Speaker 1: of money, Why is she letting somebody else pay that
Speaker 1: much money for all this plastic surgery. She's had multiple
Speaker 1: face lifts already. At this point, they all have look
Speaker 1: at Vicky. VICKI is out of control. Yes, that's like
Speaker 1: guess people do is get facelifts and then complain about it,
Speaker 1: And I meant, I'm just it's annoying. So then then
Speaker 1: before we leave that scene, Vicky is, who's just horrible,
Speaker 1: is like, why is one of your boobs bigger than
Speaker 1: the other? Just freaking rude thing to say that's so rude,
Speaker 1: And Shannon's like, oh, oh it's noticeable. She goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like you have oranges in there that are
Speaker 1: like lopsided. This is you. And I don't like this
Speaker 1: kind of thing because this is the opposite of the
Speaker 1: other thing, which is going like you know what you
Speaker 1: should do? Cut bangs, right, This is like the opposite.
Speaker 1: This is like your bangs look fucking horrible.
Speaker 2: It's a friend that we didn't ask for. I don't
Speaker 2: want I hate that. I don't get that. I have
Speaker 2: a friend like that. I have a friend who like
Speaker 2: it's a woman, and she does that. She's like, I
Speaker 2: don't think your hair looks good. I mean, really, how
Speaker 2: is that helpsful? It's not.
Speaker 1: It's And the weird thing about it to me is that, like,
Speaker 1: I've never done that to her or anyone, anyone, right,
Speaker 1: I would never say. Maybe maybe there'd been like boyfriends
Speaker 1: where I'll be like, okay, we can like let's like
Speaker 1: you know, I think even more recently, I haven't done that,
Speaker 1: but maybe in my twenties I was trying to be like,
Speaker 1: let's let's buy a cuter shirt maybe, but not anything mean,
Speaker 1: not like you look like shit? Right, Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: I do not like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 2: Gross.
Speaker 1: Okay, so now is another scene that's gross. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: Jan and her boyfriends they're packing for something that Rolex
Speaker 1: Vegas put into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're going to Vegas. She's like, oh, this
Speaker 1: isn't gonna look good because everyone's saying I'm not right,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to Vegas.
Speaker 2: He's like, you're allowed to go to Vegas or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then I thought, furious, Okay, this is when I like,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I ever defended.
Speaker 2: I was like, girl, pay your shit. I did not
Speaker 2: know that she didn't pay during co she was so
Speaker 2: she was one of the people that didn't pay rent
Speaker 2: during COVID. Nothing changed in her life.
Speaker 1: The reason they had a thing where you couldn't you
Speaker 1: could not pay rent during COVID if you didn't. If
Speaker 1: you couldn't, is because people lost their jobs, weight staff, waiters, couldn't.
Speaker 1: I paid my rent, but like some people couldn't.
Speaker 2: They might have been to you know, think people got
Speaker 2: laid off and those jobs didn't exist anymore. And so
Speaker 2: they did this really cool thing where but a lot
Speaker 2: of people took advantage of it, and she was one
Speaker 2: of them. Right, she didn't pay a rent during COVID.
Speaker 2: Are you fucking kidding? Why what job did you lose?
Speaker 1: Right? Well, that she didn't have, her husband wasn't paying
Speaker 1: for She thought he was paying for everything.
Speaker 2: Also, and then then she puts back rent. In quotes,
Speaker 2: she's like, we're working out a deal. So basically they're
Speaker 2: getting less because she couldn't pay. You know, she's this
Speaker 2: princess who does is going to Vegas, does have all
Speaker 2: these fancy like whatever bullshit hair always has glam.
Speaker 1: The glam squad has got to be five hundred dollars
Speaker 1: each time. That's expensive to have people come to your
Speaker 1: hair and makeup, even if you just go to like
Speaker 1: some shitty place in LA and just like in East Hollywood,
Speaker 1: it's one hundred and plus dollars. That's why. That's why
Speaker 1: Gina was just like, yeah, her extensions are always perfect
Speaker 1: and she's always having glam, but like she can't pay
Speaker 1: her rent.
Speaker 2: And then she's trying to make jokes about that. She's like, well,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just refused to not look good. Fuck
Speaker 2: you are you kidding?
Speaker 1: You can't be mad at Gina for saying you literally
Speaker 1: took money out of my pocket. So you by not
Speaker 1: paying rent, I didn't make all that commission. I agree,
Speaker 1: I am a hundred so I lost money because you
Speaker 1: decided that you would just rather not spend your money
Speaker 1: on fulfilling your contract.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I was real mad at her in this
Speaker 2: just it was just a real quick packing scene and
Speaker 2: I was just agitated.
Speaker 1: Also, you're going to be maybe surprised at something that
Speaker 1: agitated me, but I do not. This guy is so gross.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: First of all, on camera, he made two different comments
Speaker 1: about like having sex with her because he's like yeah,
Speaker 1: when she's like do you like this dress, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like it better when it's like rumpled on
Speaker 1: the side of the bed. So in on camera you're
Speaker 1: basically going like, yeah, I'm paying for this trip and
Speaker 1: you're gonna be having a lot of sex with me,
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm getting out of this relationship. Then
Speaker 1: later when she's trying to she doesn't like really respond
Speaker 1: to that. She's not like yeah, we're gonna just be
Speaker 1: like fucking the whole time. She doesn't really respond that way.
Speaker 1: And then later he's like, yeah, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: be like naked fries, like eating fries naked in bed
Speaker 1: with you. It's just like, you're gross.
Speaker 2: He's trying to be like, oh, we're we're just like
Speaker 2: everybody else. We just want to Netflix and chill with
Speaker 2: fries and naked in Vegas, Like shut up.
Speaker 1: It just felt kind of gross and personal of like yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna be having a lot of like she
Speaker 1: didn't ask for that, right, you're not even a cast member, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like if a woman wants
Speaker 1: to say that, if she's like, yeah, we're just gonna
Speaker 1: be like having someone, that's fine, But it's not really
Speaker 1: for him to be like, yeah, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: be like having sex with you every minute. I don't know.
Speaker 2: So I didn't notice it. That didn't bother me as
Speaker 2: much because I was so bothered by her, Like, she
Speaker 2: doesn't even you know, how into him is she? Even
Speaker 2: she's just trying to get a big house for her kids.
Speaker 2: She's like, who is she? She's like Fontine or you know,
Speaker 2: one great thing.
Speaker 1: About this show is that you're gonna get a lot
Speaker 1: of musical theater references, right.
Speaker 2: Was it Fontine? Like you know, basically, we'll just do
Speaker 2: whatever for the kid, but like she'll sell her body, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Spontine to make sure that Cosette is taking care of.
Speaker 2: And guess what Cosette was taken care of? And guess
Speaker 2: what Cosette rubbed that in Eponine's space all day long.
Speaker 2: And because of that, we got some wonderful mezzo soprano
Speaker 2: songs from Epanine. Now listen if you want this on
Speaker 2: a different podcast. Sure we could cut and paste, but
Speaker 2: I that's how I feel. She's fonteining it and.
Speaker 1: I'm not my girl. Okay, So Katie has dinner with
Speaker 1: her cor man's version of Doctor Drew of a husband.
Speaker 2: How old does he do you think?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but she's like, oh my god, Like
Speaker 1: when I first met my husband, I was like, he's
Speaker 1: so hot. No, you didn't say that. You did not
Speaker 1: say that. Katie, she's one of the least I say
Speaker 1: this with love because you know, we need this in
Speaker 1: a cast member. She's probably one of the least authentic. Oh,
Speaker 1: I agree with that in a while. I agree with
Speaker 1: you on that she brings me nothing real, so that
Speaker 1: she she reminds me a little bit of Crystal, but
Speaker 1: at least Crystal like was kind of mouthy and fun. Well,
Speaker 1: she's similar because she is married to this older dude
Speaker 1: you know who's talking about. I guess he's like kind
Speaker 1: of a famous golfer, which we get too, and he
Speaker 1: has a podcast on the golf channel.
Speaker 2: Okay, So at some point she's talking to.
Speaker 1: Him about the story of the event where she messed up.
Speaker 1: They're talking about the golf event and she's telling Shannon
Speaker 1: the Heather, she's telling him all this stuff.
Speaker 2: They do a flashback I think where she's like, uh
Speaker 2: so I'm thinking about calling it drinking and driving, get
Speaker 2: it because it's like a you knowing range drinks and driving.
Speaker 2: And Heather gets a little trigger because Shannon's right there
Speaker 2: and she's like, hey, maybe we don't call it that.
Speaker 2: Let's rethink that. That's kind of really awful, and she's like, oopsies,
Speaker 2: she's I didn't cous Yeah, she's a cuz, like you
Speaker 2: know that she thought of that.
Speaker 1: Of course she did. She's so catty and she's just
Speaker 1: trying to randomly take people down. Girl, Relax, you've been
Speaker 1: on the show for like four episodes, right and less hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Matt the golf guy, the husband is like, well,
Speaker 2: who do you like? You know? And she's like, she
Speaker 2: likes Jen because they bonded on adopt being adopted or
Speaker 2: having Jen has an adopted son and Katie was adopted,
Speaker 2: and that's a real reason to bond I get that.
Speaker 2: But like, based on so, it's just a filter for
Speaker 2: her who reminds her of her? It's not like who
Speaker 2: did she really actually have a good conversation with.
Speaker 1: Right, again, you relate to that because this is when
Speaker 1: Stephanie tries to tell me that I was adopted, which
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: I mean, it'd be fine.
Speaker 1: Well it's your mom and I talked about it, and
Speaker 1: I again she said that, you know, but you just
Speaker 1: don't like to talk about it, and I don't want
Speaker 1: you to feel feel embarrassed.
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people don't realize, do you. Guys,
Speaker 2: I'm going to take it back to musicals because you
Speaker 2: didn't think I could. But you know, the musical Annie
Speaker 2: that's been around for a long time was based on
Speaker 2: Stephanie's life because she wasn't in an orphan she was
Speaker 2: very scrappy and we're not making fun of that, like, no,
Speaker 2: it's wonderful. But she had very curly red hair.
Speaker 1: I did. It was a lot of people don't know that.
Speaker 1: You can tell people that I'm not ashamed at all
Speaker 1: for curly.
Speaker 2: And she had a really good friend named Pepper, and
Speaker 2: she was kind of an asshole in the orphanage.
Speaker 1: But you had to be like you had to be
Speaker 1: just oh yeah, you had to be and then you
Speaker 1: had to be hard. Yeah, yeah, it was, if I
Speaker 1: may say, it was kind of a hard knock life
Speaker 1: for you or for us. I mean, you're just not
Speaker 1: going to get this on another show. I just don't.
Speaker 2: I mean sometimes it's like and maybe.
Speaker 1: Are like, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: That is why maybe don't want it.
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't want deep deeper cuts. Although I don't
Speaker 1: think Annie is that deep of a cut. No, However,
Speaker 1: if you listen to our bord a f which will
Speaker 1: come out on Monday, I will talk to you guys
Speaker 1: about a musical that is a deeper cut.
Speaker 2: Just get ready, you get ready as well. Okay, right,
Speaker 2: let's get into this.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Katie, so this is after that thing when
Speaker 1: she's like, oh okay, I guess what about like chipping
Speaker 1: and sipping? Then this is where I wrote I don't
Speaker 1: really love Katie. I mean I don't like Shannon either,
Speaker 1: but Katie just seems very empathy free. She's just very
Speaker 1: focused on kind of taking people down. Talk about not
Speaker 1: reading the room. She does not read the room at all.
Speaker 1: She is just like, I'm just going to go forward
Speaker 1: with my thing that I want to say, which is
Speaker 1: that Heather call the paps and is obsessed with me
Speaker 1: and you know, and she just keeps bringing it up
Speaker 1: over and over well.
Speaker 2: This whole conversation became about the post. So I got
Speaker 2: a little confused because I wrote, Katie goes to Gina,
Speaker 2: what is what is the next thing? What does she
Speaker 2: say to Gina?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she goes to and she complains. Gina's complaining like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Travis is living up the street from me,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, well that was your choice, right,
Speaker 1: that was all you girl, Like you wanted that, so whatever.
Speaker 1: So she's like, I'm truly sad. So he tried to
Speaker 1: break up with me, but I told him like, no, like,
Speaker 1: you know, just give it like a few months and
Speaker 1: then you can break up with me if you want to.
Speaker 2: I got that she needed like baby steps. Although they're
Speaker 2: not broken up and they are doing well, they are
Speaker 2: totally together. So her vision for them totally worked out.
Speaker 2: It made sense, and I love her for it even
Speaker 2: better more then what's the drinking THHC moment?
Speaker 1: So I was just like I even had to go
Speaker 1: look this up. I'm like, okay, so who uh Katie.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's Tamra.
Speaker 1: Emily. Emily goes to Tamar's house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Emily goes to Tamra's house.
Speaker 1: She drinks coffee, iced coffee with TC in it. And
Speaker 1: then I wrote, is this Tamra's new business venture?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: But I looked it up on Instagram. I could not
Speaker 1: find anything about like THC's.
Speaker 2: It's just not out yet. It's gonna come out, but
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna use the show to launch it. Right,
Speaker 2: there's just no way. That was exactly my thought. And
Speaker 2: then but it's it's got to be like the tiniest amount,
Speaker 2: I guess, but it would still I would imagine make
Speaker 2: you kind of high. Oh yeah, I didn't really get that.
Speaker 2: So okay, So they're having everybody's having the same conversation.
Speaker 2: They're all talking about the paparazzi situation, right, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what I wrote. Meanwhile, Katie is wearing a sweatshirt.
Speaker 1: Did you notice this? Did you see your sweatshirt?
Speaker 2: What did it say?
Speaker 1: It said Sporty and Rich Hotel Club? You yeah, what
Speaker 1: is that? Sporty and Rich? I mean, why would you? Why?
Speaker 1: What's wrong with her?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what's wrong with any
Speaker 2: of them. So then they're still having the conversation about
Speaker 2: and by the.
Speaker 1: Way, and Rich company, it's a company. Okay, yeah, well
Speaker 1: maybe so Heather is angling, by the way, as mean,
Speaker 1: we've talked about. Everyone knows she's angling to be on
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, and on watch what happens it does come
Speaker 1: up one of the like you know, they have like
Speaker 1: fake viewer they have fake questions that they give people
Speaker 1: that zoom in right, and they're like, Heather, my questions
Speaker 1: for you would you be on Beverly Hills Real Housewives.
Speaker 1: So Heather turns to Andy and is like, I think
Speaker 1: that's really a question for you, Andy.
Speaker 2: Because of course, of course, like that's what her dream.
Speaker 2: She knows she's above the OC ladies. She knows that
Speaker 2: she knows where she belongs and uh and Andy was like,
Speaker 2: Andy seemed annoy He was like, well, that's a bigger conversation,
Speaker 2: and then he just moves on to the next question. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he didn't do anything to kind of I don't know
Speaker 2: if you just I think Heather's probably asking for a lot.
Speaker 2: She probably wants more money to go to Beverly Hills, right,
Speaker 2: I guarantee it. And so they're they're playing hardball. So
Speaker 2: that's what happened there, and she's just.
Speaker 1: Like another white woman, like I sat there trying. I mean,
Speaker 1: she doesn't take the place they I mean, who's been
Speaker 1: fired Crystal.
Speaker 2: Crystal got fired and somebody else think, oh thankfully, what's
Speaker 2: her face? Whose name? We don't even have? Anne Marie.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But you know, we need
Speaker 1: so two diversity people, but we do need Heather there.
Speaker 2: She fits. I mean, they have a house there, they
Speaker 2: probably always have, like she needs to be on that
Speaker 2: she if she's gonna be on a show and should
Speaker 2: be Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: I'd like, but do you need more just do you
Speaker 1: need more basic white women on that show? I guess
Speaker 1: is the question.
Speaker 2: I think when it comes to Heather at it's not a.
Speaker 1: Good look to just like keep firing your anybody that
Speaker 1: brings a different flavor to the show and then you know,
Speaker 1: replacing them with just a basic white woman. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Garcella must feel tired. She's tired. Oh my god, I'm exhausted. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So same conversation over and over. It's ridiculous. So then Katie,
Speaker 1: there's something a conversation about a birthday party is gossiping.
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, so my friend Cynthia ran into Heather
Speaker 1: at a party, and Heather asked Cynthia like, how do
Speaker 1: you know Katie? And then she asked a bunch of
Speaker 1: questions about me? So okay, that that's how fucking conversation works.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I was getting so mad. It's
Speaker 1: just like, this is not the flex that you think
Speaker 1: it is. So so what So she you're about to
Speaker 1: be cast mates on a show. You're about to be
Speaker 1: cast mates and Heather meets somebody who knows you, and
Speaker 1: Heather was probably like, oh, Katie is about to be
Speaker 1: on my cast on Beverly Hill's Housewives, I mean on
Speaker 1: Orange County Housewives, So like, how do you know her?
Speaker 1: Like how do you guys know each other? Or like
Speaker 1: that's a normal making conversation. That doesn't mean she's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you know you know Katie, give me
Speaker 1: gossip about her. I know that would be crazy if
Speaker 1: she did that. Listen, stop yelling at me about Katie.
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. You can yell about Katie, you can
Speaker 2: vent to get it out.
Speaker 1: It just seems so empty, like you're really gonna waste
Speaker 1: everybody's time going. Can you believe she asked questions about me?
Speaker 1: So she's like, hey, there's obsessed with me. She's just
Speaker 1: obsessed with me. It doesn't that proves zero.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's Heather because she is leaving the show,
Speaker 2: because she is very likely going to not be on
Speaker 2: the show. I wonder if that's maybe that's easiest for
Speaker 2: Katie to just sort of pretend to go after her,
Speaker 2: as opposed to someone that she would actually have to
Speaker 2: like get to know, maybe because I don't think Heather's
Speaker 2: around that much. She shows up for filming obviously, but
Speaker 2: she doesn't even really live around there. I just don't
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just seems I don't know, so it's just all fake.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't seem fake because Heather's getting pretty pissed.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I have I do think Heather is
Speaker 1: pretty savvy. I do believe that Heather could have approved
Speaker 1: approved this message. I do believe she could have been like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well let's let's make that a thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, but then somebody would tell I mean,
Speaker 2: unless you could really trust somebody, like you get that
Speaker 2: into the hands of Tamera, and she would be the
Speaker 2: first to be like, you guys are all faking the
Speaker 2: shot just to make that storyline. They do that all
Speaker 2: the time. They turn on each other, they make deals.
Speaker 2: It used to happen all the time with vander Palm.
Speaker 2: She'd make deals and then they would turn on her
Speaker 2: for the deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also, I don't think that Heather would agree
Speaker 1: to a storyline about her faking a call to Papazi.
Speaker 2: I don't know that's one I think she would agree on.
Speaker 2: She wouldn't let them touch her family or something like that.
Speaker 2: But I mean that's probably the most mild thing you
Speaker 2: could come up with. And I love it too. How
Speaker 2: like even the thing you're blaming someone for is kind
Speaker 2: of a good thing. Like you've got a little clout,
Speaker 2: so you're calling Papa. It'd be like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I saw Heather donating to a charity that
Speaker 2: seems pretty awful. Like Heather be like, yeah, that's a
Speaker 2: good one. You can go with that one.
Speaker 1: I was driving by the Red Cross and I saw
Speaker 1: her car perd outside she doing Was she having an
Speaker 1: affair with the Red Cross? Was she giving blood? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? Yeah, it's kind of a it's sort of
Speaker 1: not so maybe it's possible. You know, Heather likes to
Speaker 1: flex the acting skills. True, that's true.
Speaker 2: So we go to this dumb golf thing. Let's round
Speaker 2: this out. We have another event.
Speaker 1: But we just don't forget don't forget that. There is
Speaker 1: a quick, very quick scene of Shannon putting self tanner
Speaker 1: on her legs and I wrote, I'm gonna get shipped
Speaker 1: for this, but she seems drunk.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting. I know I didn't. I didn't catch even
Speaker 2: that scene at all, but I believe it. I believe it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's not she's not doing super well but hopefully better now.
Speaker 1: Okay. And just also before the golf event, I think so,
Speaker 1: Gina and Emily are gossiping as predicted about Jennifer going
Speaker 1: to Vegas instead of working, and they're like, yeah, and
Speaker 1: she probably paid for expensive makeup. So meanwhile, they were
Speaker 1: supposedly sort of made up about this on the last episode,
Speaker 1: but clearly they didn't.
Speaker 2: Well, Emily stirs the pod a little bit. I think
Speaker 2: she gets Gina riled up. Gina's trying, Gina tries to
Speaker 2: make peace wherever she is, she's a reasonable human. Then
Speaker 2: Emily is just like always with sandwich in mouth.
Speaker 1: Remember though, Like there's one where what was the thing
Speaker 1: where they went to the spot she was eating like
Speaker 1: a ham sandwich, like she's Mama Cass. Yes, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but she's like, oh, I don't like her.
Speaker 1: What You're just like Shane and there's just food. Highly
Speaker 1: she just bugs me. Yeah, she just bugs me. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, you're right, Gina's just trying it and she's
Speaker 1: like yeah, no, but she's still mad. Then it does
Speaker 1: show Jen in glam of course pain probably one thousand
Speaker 1: dollars that she does owe to her back her quote
Speaker 1: unquote background that she puts in quotes.
Speaker 2: No, it's rent like, oh god, she's so annoying. They're
Speaker 2: all annoying. Okay.
Speaker 1: Then before we get to the actual golf event, we
Speaker 1: have to watch Katie fucking Man explaining us golf. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a really conservative sport. You know, it's really conservative.
Speaker 1: It's for like really conservative people.
Speaker 2: So right, straight up, And if you win this whatever
Speaker 2: they're doing this stupid thing, you get Prata sunglasses, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, I loved those protest sunglasses. I was
Speaker 2: a little I was a little jealous. And Emily, Emily
Speaker 2: wore them very well. She wins spoiler, but she she
Speaker 2: is very pretty. I'm not putting she's gorgeous, and those
Speaker 2: sunglasses were wow. They were a wow. Maybe you didn't notice.
Speaker 1: I didn't even care.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I thought they were so cool. I loved it.
Speaker 2: It's okay. We all care about different things. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: care about the Red Cross mostly you you know, you
Speaker 2: have your stuff.
Speaker 1: I thought that was being kind of funny. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have four kids, I've done my time at like
Speaker 1: pup pup golf. Don't really care. But she brings champagne.
Speaker 1: Here's some champs here's some dom Perignon mm hm, which
Speaker 1: is good champagne.
Speaker 2: No, my mother would have you know, it's funny that
Speaker 2: you say that that it's not very good champagne. It's
Speaker 2: she says, it's new money champagne, my mother. And then
Speaker 2: I looked it up and she's not totally wrong. Like
Speaker 2: it's fine, it's good one hundred percent. Would I drink it, Yes,
Speaker 2: but it's not like it's not the flex that like
Speaker 2: we think it is. It's fine, But that was That
Speaker 2: was a conversation I had to have with one of
Speaker 2: her husbands. He ordered the real deal stuff, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, oh no, no, no, no, no
Speaker 2: no no. Uh so, yeah, that's new Money, although I
Speaker 2: guess that would fit Heather.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's still expensive champagne.
Speaker 2: So me. Okay. So they're all doing their thing. They're
Speaker 2: they're being cutesy, so the idea.
Speaker 1: But so Katie is already being like passive aggressive. She's like, oh, Heather,
Speaker 1: we have hot dogs for you, and Heather is just like,
Speaker 1: oh cool, I love hot dogs. And then Katie's to
Speaker 1: cameras like what better way to show her that I'm
Speaker 1: not a threat than to serve food? I know she
Speaker 1: likes hot dogs. I was like, you're and you are
Speaker 1: trying to say that she's obsessed with you. All you
Speaker 1: do is think about fucking Heather, think about right. All
Speaker 1: you do is think about her Instagram and think about
Speaker 1: who she tagged, and think about what food she likes,
Speaker 1: and think about who who she's asked quite I mean,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Katie.
Speaker 2: And also it's funny it's like she's not a threat.
Speaker 2: Heather doesn't even think about her. She's like, all nat
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, like she doesn't, she's not even in
Speaker 2: her on her radar. She's write a shit, right. So
Speaker 2: finally they have the convert. They tell Heather what the
Speaker 2: conversation was in. Heather's pissed, so she's going to confront.
Speaker 2: Now we're at the end, we are like five minutes left,
Speaker 2: and she's going to confront Katie. So well, actually Katie
Speaker 2: pulls Heather like, oh, can we talk? And Heather's like,
Speaker 2: you bet right.
Speaker 1: But before she brings it up to her, Tamra tells Heather.
Speaker 1: Tamra spills the beans to Heather and it's like you
Speaker 1: should know that. Katie's like bragging about how she has
Speaker 1: proof of the paparazzi photos. And Heather, I thought, which
Speaker 1: was pretty believable, is like, great, let me see the proof.
Speaker 1: And Tamra's like, yeah, well she didn't actually show me proof,
Speaker 1: and Heather goes, yeah, that's because there isn't any because
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. Meanwhile, Katie is talking to Gina and
Speaker 1: Shannon and like Jennifer I think, and she's like basically like,
Speaker 1: I didn't know this wasn't even an issue last season,
Speaker 1: Like I had no idea because I I wasn't on
Speaker 1: the show last season, but I am this season. Well,
Speaker 1: a friend of mine runs all paparazzi photos for all
Speaker 1: of the world.
Speaker 2: All the world. He's the head of paparazzi. He's the
Speaker 2: president of paparazzi.
Speaker 1: The stupidest comment can you imagine saying something like that,
Speaker 1: dumb like, he's just in charge of all photos of
Speaker 1: anybody that get taken at any point at any place,
Speaker 1: right anyway, So that person, that person who's in charge
Speaker 1: of all paparazzi told me that she told them she
Speaker 1: was going to Disneyland. Also, she asked a lot of
Speaker 1: questions about me. And then Shannon goes, yeah, well she
Speaker 1: did that to me too, and like I was new,
Speaker 1: and Katie goes, yeah, well, I just don't feel threatened.
Speaker 1: I don't even care, and they go okay, then go
Speaker 1: talk to her. Then so now she comes over and
Speaker 1: she's like, oh.
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me let me say this about Shannon.
Speaker 2: You had noticed you thought she's maybe tipsy. I think
Speaker 2: she's maybe xan. Next, yeah, I think she's on like
Speaker 2: a benzo, which is totally fine. I could understand why
Speaker 2: she might need that, but she seemed to me just glossy,
Speaker 2: not drunk, but just sort of because at one point
Speaker 2: she goes, why would she tell Heather? But she says
Speaker 2: it in a way you know when someone's a little
Speaker 2: out of it. Why would she tell Heather well, you
Speaker 2: know exactly why why Like she's saying, that's Tamra, Right,
Speaker 2: would Tamra tell Heather? Well, you know because for the show,
Speaker 2: so doing a show and there's got to be some drama.
Speaker 2: But she seemed like a little out there, but you
Speaker 2: know she was on the right side of it, like
Speaker 2: why would you do that? Why bother? But they had
Speaker 2: to right, Okay, So yes, she pulls Heather and Heather's
Speaker 2: not having it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. She's mad, it's really all that I and
Speaker 1: she's just saying it never happened, and He's like, yes,
Speaker 1: it didn't.
Speaker 2: She just swear on my life of my kid's life, yeah,
Speaker 2: and asked.
Speaker 1: Katie goes, I want to talk to you about this
Speaker 1: weird thing that's like looming between us and the Heather's like,
Speaker 1: there's no thing. All I know is you were going
Speaker 1: around to my friends claiming I'm calling the paparazzi and
Speaker 1: that I'm somehow obsessed with you. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: untruths here, and Katie goes, well, we were on a
Speaker 1: girls' night and I found out that you looked at
Speaker 1: my Instagram and Heather goes, yeah, I look through it.
Speaker 1: So can you imagine accusing somebody I heard that you
Speaker 1: looked at my Instagram page? Why would you do that
Speaker 1: if you're not obsessed with me?
Speaker 2: I think about the Instagram looks a lot because you know,
Speaker 2: on TikTok, unless you toggle off the privacy thing, people
Speaker 2: can see every time you view their profile, which I
Speaker 2: learned luckily before, like beforehand, before the stalking came out.
Speaker 2: But can you imagine, I mean, if on Insta, if
Speaker 2: they all of a sudden were like, we're going to
Speaker 2: show not only when you look like that you've looked,
Speaker 2: but every time you look at someone's Insta, I would
Speaker 2: be in big trouble.
Speaker 1: But isn't that all I'm saying? What Instagram is for,
Speaker 1: it's your social media. So here's the thing. If Katie
Speaker 1: is about to be on a show, right, if you
Speaker 1: and I were about to be on a show together,
Speaker 1: I didn't know you and I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: girl Cecily Nobler is going to be a cast member
Speaker 1: this season, wouldn't I look at your Instagram? And even
Speaker 1: if I didn't know you at all from anywhere, and
Speaker 1: then if you found out, oh, Stephanie looked at your Instagram.
Speaker 1: Would you be like, oh my god, that bitch is
Speaker 1: obsessed with me. No, because that's not where the obsession is.
Speaker 1: So Heather's course very reasonably like, yeah, I looked at
Speaker 1: your Instagram. That doesn't mean I'm obsessed with you. It
Speaker 1: means I scrolled through your pictures. And then she goes yeah.
Speaker 1: Then we are at a party and you just turned around,
Speaker 1: and Heather goes, Okay, so you expect me to recognize
Speaker 1: you because I saw your picture online? Mm hm, which
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree with. I've looked at a
Speaker 1: lot of people's pictures online. That doesn't mean that if
Speaker 1: I saw them at a party, I'd be like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've saw their Instagram account.
Speaker 2: I know they're heavily filtered on Instagram. You don't look
Speaker 2: like you look really, so that's whatever that is. And
Speaker 2: even who cares? Yeah no, it's ridiculous. But can I
Speaker 2: just tell you the biggest boss move ever? Which I
Speaker 2: think you know? So they have these gift bags, which
Speaker 2: you know have got to be pretty good, these like
Speaker 2: old toats that she's giving away personally, And I was like,
Speaker 2: will Heather take her gift bag? And she did, and
Speaker 2: I would have too, because you know there's some ship,
Speaker 2: there's some good stuff in there, and she'd just given
Speaker 2: her dom. So it's like, yeah, no, thanks, thanks for
Speaker 2: the gift bag. Bye. She I thought that was a
Speaker 2: boss move. Yeah, would you have taken it if someone
Speaker 2: was the only if someone you do not like Katie?
Speaker 2: We know that. So if you were at Katie's thing
Speaker 2: and she was stirring it up with you.
Speaker 1: And then she's like, well, I wouldn't have taken it,
Speaker 1: because that would be my boss move, would be to
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I clearly don't need your little gift.
Speaker 2: I get that she could have done that, but I
Speaker 2: love that. I just love it because why not take
Speaker 2: the thing? Take it, you know, like what I give
Speaker 2: it to your one of your kids or something like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, she earned that right, she earned
Speaker 2: that gift bag.
Speaker 1: I want. I want to right before she leaves is
Speaker 1: and Katie's like, yeah, well, I have proof that you
Speaker 1: tell the Papa Razzi all the time where you're going
Speaker 1: to be, and I have a text that says you
Speaker 1: called them and still doesn't show the text to her,
Speaker 1: And Heather's like, well, I swear to my kids that
Speaker 1: that didn't happen. And then Katie goes, well, you lied,
Speaker 1: and Heather goes, well, I didn't lie, and I don't
Speaker 1: have any worries that you're going to have proof because
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. And Katie goes, well, you're lying, and
Speaker 1: then Heather goes, which I thought was a pretty funny line.
Speaker 1: Heather goes, you know, when you come into a friend group,
Speaker 1: one thing you might want to try to do is
Speaker 1: make friends. And then Heather says to camera, which i'd
Speaker 1: been writing through my whole little recap, I'm not the
Speaker 1: one digging up shit on Katie. Katie's the one spending
Speaker 1: her time digging up shit about me, So who's obsessed
Speaker 1: with it?
Speaker 2: I mean, look?
Speaker 1: And then Katie goes, you're harboring stuff about me, and
Speaker 1: Heather goes, bitch, I barely heard of you, and now
Speaker 1: I don't know that I even want to.
Speaker 2: Did she say bitch?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I added that I like that, I like that flair
Speaker 2: for her. I'd like to see her get a little
Speaker 2: bit more sausage. She's never going to do that because
Speaker 2: she's got glass right, she's got class and SaaS. She's
Speaker 2: got class and sas and I love it. But I
Speaker 2: liked it. There was like, oh, I have this gift bag. Yep, thanks, Hi,
Speaker 2: see around.
Speaker 1: I'm just mad because I think that Heather is going
Speaker 1: to try to be the bigger person and like be
Speaker 1: good with Katie, and I don't think Katie deserves it.
Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. I wish I didn't
Speaker 2: know what kind of akups Heather is and she is.
Speaker 2: We like her because she's like the voice of reason.
Speaker 2: She's not the one getting wasted. She's not She's never
Speaker 2: really up in the drama unless they come for her.
Speaker 2: So we think she's the one. But she's she's not nice. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean there's.
Speaker 1: She's passive LGBT ally and I will never stop respecting
Speaker 1: her for that. She's got a trans kid into other
Speaker 1: who identify as LGBT, and she's like hardcore supportive and
Speaker 1: I think she sets a good example in that way
Speaker 1: she support her.
Speaker 2: I like that too, But as we've said before, like Alexis,
Speaker 2: for example, is also a big supporter, and I like
Speaker 2: that about her, but I still don't like her. I
Speaker 2: like Heather a lot more than Alexis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you.
Speaker 2: Can separate, you know, Like, I think that's wonderful that
Speaker 2: she does that, but I think she's pretty awful. She's
Speaker 2: said some horrible things in years past, you know, so
Speaker 2: like you can have it's it's Heather, Heather. I don't
Speaker 2: like no, No Alexis, but I don't like that Heather
Speaker 2: is like not nice to stat that she's just so
Speaker 2: snobby and dismissive. I feel of like the people that
Speaker 2: work for her. I just don't think she's very nice overall.
Speaker 2: But I'm glad she supports her kids and you know,
Speaker 2: therefore supports a movement bare minimum.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, I'm glad she loves her kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad she did that thing about her But
Speaker 2: you're right, You're right. She did take something that you know,
Speaker 2: she was experiencing in her family and then make it,
Speaker 2: you know, be which was vocal about it, which could
Speaker 2: help a lot of people, which is true with LGBTQ.
Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. And I don't know,
Speaker 2: this was the first time in a while that I
Speaker 2: didn't love her as much as I have in the
Speaker 2: in the past, not because of anything with Katie.
Speaker 1: She's just there's just something she's over. She's over the show.
Speaker 1: So it's like, let's just let her go go to
Speaker 1: the other show. We're still gonna watch her. Mm hmm,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Or go to New York.
Speaker 1: Why don't you guys buy while you're buying some property,
Speaker 1: go get a place in New York.
Speaker 2: And join that cast.
Speaker 1: That'd be good for her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should fit. It'd be great.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we've done all we can do here.
Speaker 1: I do too. This was a long episode.
Speaker 2: This is a good and you're welcome for that m
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